1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: Good afternoon, everybody. 2 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 2: We are back with our third and final installment of 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 2: the Giants Draft Show, presented by Creshtron. I am John Schmelk, 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 2: Sam Antony, leftist Paul Datino. We've been carrying you for 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 2: two nights. We got one more day to go. We 6 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 2: are on this Saturday afternoon. The Giants have three selections 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: today in the NFL Draft. They do not have a 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: seventh round pick, Joe Shane, let's keep it that way. 9 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,159 Speaker 2: The Giants are selecting at pick one oh seven in 10 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 2: round number four. In round number five, remember the Giants 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: swapped picks with the Carolina Panthers and the Brian Burns trade, 12 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: so they have picked number one sixty six in round 13 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: number five. That I believe we used to belong to 14 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine ers, which I think came 15 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: was that always did, was that the Christian McCaffrey trade. 16 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: Still with that pick still could have been it might 17 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: still be right. 18 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: And then the Giants pick in round number six, just 19 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: a handful of picks later at pick one p eighty three. 20 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: So those are the three spots the Giants are picking 21 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: at today. Again, we are taking your call, so get. 22 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: On the line. Get on hold will take a lot 23 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: of your calls. We'll get ready for the fourth round. 24 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: Pick the Giant Giants pick in the seventh slot here 25 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: in round number four, so we'll talk you through the 26 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: first six picks. I imagine we're probably gonna have some 27 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: trades going on as teams slept on their boards and 28 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: fell in love with players that are left, and they're 29 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: going to try. 30 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: To go get them. The same movie saw a million 31 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: dreds at the top of round two. 32 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: I think we'll see a lot of those today. Yeah, 33 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 2: so Paul, let's real quickly think give. 34 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: Us our further thoughts on what the Giants have done 35 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: already before we talk about the guys they might pick here. 36 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: Excuse me in round number four. 37 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: The more I thought about it, you know, I had 38 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: nw Been as the second round safety. I had him 39 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: as my third safety though, because I thought about it overnight. 40 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: The reason I had Hicks and Bollard above him, And 41 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: then maybe I did not arrange my board properly for 42 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: the Giants needs. Particularly maybe I was doing more of 43 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: a generic board instead of a Giants board. 44 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: I thought Hicks and Bullet were better man to man defenders. 45 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: If you have to cover guys man to man in the. 46 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: Slot, and I cover I just as a general principle, 47 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: that's a skill I covered a lot. 48 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: But given with Shane Bowen wants, given. 49 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: The way Shane Bowen played in Tennessee and his zone 50 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: heavy scheme, Nuban is the better zone coverage guy than 51 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: the other two as yes, centerfielder read the quarterback make 52 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: plays on the football. 53 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: And I think Jamon Buller is not far behind by 54 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: the way. 55 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 2: I think he's an excellent player also, but I think 56 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: both of them are better than Hicks in that regard. 57 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: So to me, I think that makes even more sense 58 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: why Nuben was their top safety on their board, given 59 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: his ability to play that zone defense, which. 60 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: We think Shane Bowen's going to try to use in 61 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: his system. 62 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 3: It makes perfect sense if we are to consider what 63 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: we think about Bowen and what we also know about 64 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 3: Brian Dable as to why the wide receiver and the 65 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: safety that they took in rounds one and two are 66 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: matches for the blueprint of what those coaches want. And 67 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: let's just go back and emphasize one of the reasons 68 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: that Shane and Dabele are here is because they are simpatico. 69 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: These guys have a very clear understanding of each other. 70 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: You mean Joe Shane, not Shane Bowen. I'm just making 71 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: sure we're in this case Joe Shane got I do 72 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: to make sure that I knew what you meant. 73 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 3: Yes, they are so much tied together at the hip 74 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 3: and on the same page. And we have heard from 75 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: Joe Shane. Okay, I'll make that clear now. Yes, we 76 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 3: have heard from Joe Shane that he is very very 77 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 3: much willing to get the coaching staff involved in what 78 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: do you guys want to do with him? What is 79 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: the plan? How will you use this guy? What is 80 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: your scheme going to be? And they communicate that with 81 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: the scouts as they're looking through. That has not always 82 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 3: been the case with other administrations, but it is here. 83 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: And so those first two picks, if you had to 84 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: predict what the Giants were going to do instead of 85 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: just picking your own players, you would understand that these 86 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: guys fit the blueprint. 87 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: And I was hoping to grab somebody and figure out 88 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: if they see Phillips as more as a slaughter or 89 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: an outside guy. I did not have a chance to 90 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: do that before the draft started. They were kind of 91 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: busy and locked in. 92 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: Did you get after we were we were doing a 93 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 3: show last night, folks, so we didn't get to listen 94 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: to Joe Shane and Brian Dable. Did you go back 95 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: and get it? 96 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: My video kept freezing again? I did, okay, so fill 97 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: me in. 98 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: They planned to first try him in the slot first 99 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 3: time and slot fast because because the explanation that Joe 100 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 3: Shane and Brian Dable gave is that they believe that 101 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 3: he is much like Cordell Flott. He's interchangeable. They think 102 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: both guys have inside and outside capability, and they're gonna 103 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 3: go with Phillips as the slot guy first and see 104 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: how it works out. But it will play itself through. 105 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: I just had a revelations. Well, Jatavian Sanders got one 106 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: to one oh one to the Panthers. He did the 107 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: top kight end on the board. The Broncos just traded 108 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: up to one oh two. Paul, Who did Broncos pick 109 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 2: as they're starting quarterback? 110 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: Oh? 111 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: You got it? 112 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, they just lost Jerry. You did this offseason? Franklin. 113 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: You know who's available? 114 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 2: Franklin number one option Fromkland Troy Franklin ten to one. 115 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: That's the pick here. Oh, that's it. It's done. You 116 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: agree with me, Right, it's done. It's done. You know 117 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: it's gotta be. It's gotta be. Can you talk it 118 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 1: to the mike police. He's a problem. Like the static 119 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: is coming from the phone. I had to put it up. 120 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: I got you. You didn't want that, did you? No? 121 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: I wasn't hearing it, Okay, I was, okay, there's no doubt. Look, 122 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: we've talked about Franklin so many times since the combine. 123 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 3: Felt he was a solid second round choice. But you 124 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,119 Speaker 3: know what, he's still here. 125 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: He was my thirty fourth ranked player, so I was 126 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: hiring him than most. 127 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: And yeah, if. 128 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: They don't grab him here, that is a major league up. 129 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: Set he is. They need a receiver too, because yeah, 130 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: Jerry Judy. 131 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: And Courtland Sunton now is complaining about contracts and stuff 132 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: like that. Tim Patrick is in one hundred percent. They 133 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: have more of an mim. So we'll see. That would 134 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: be my guess. But let's see what it's not stunned 135 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: and a lot of the fans are coming out of 136 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: are announcing the picks for these teams today. But I 137 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: bet your bonus when he visited Sean Payne is like, 138 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: you know, I could really use guys like throwing the 139 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 2: football too. 140 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 4: Right. 141 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: Good out of the University is if you guys go 142 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: back and watch the video rewind it when they show 143 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: their trade the Broncos in o'clock, you'll see my eyes 144 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: kind of wide and you'll see when it actually hits 145 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: me when I figure out who they're gonna pick. 146 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: All right, So we were just talking about him as 147 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 3: much as like he's the best guy left on the 148 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: board for us at any position. 149 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 2: The only guy left now on my board pall that 150 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: has a straight up second round grade on him is 151 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: Jaden Hicks, the safety, and I have no other straight 152 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: up second round grades left on my board. 153 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: Makes sense. 154 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: I have a couple of two three guys, Javon Baker, 155 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 2: devontees Walker and Makai Wingo. 156 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: Those are kind of you know so, But otherwise that's it. 157 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 3: To go back to what we were saying before, just 158 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 3: to reiterate about the giant situation. Yes, they come through 159 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 3: the first two days filling two gaping holes. They got 160 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: themselves a talented, skills based cornerback. We know they needed corners. 161 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: In fact, we can even arguing you could use two 162 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 3: just for depth and competition. They got themselves an impact 163 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 3: wide receiver who dramatically can affect this offense. And then 164 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: they got a highly physical, ball hawking safety who whether 165 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 3: or not you thought it was a hired priority need, 166 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: the guy's a good player. So they've come through their 167 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: first three picks, in my opinion, doing very well. 168 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: All right, now, let's talk about what the Giants still 169 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: need to do here, Poe this Paul, As Joe Shane 170 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: said before this draft, they have a lot of holes 171 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: to fill. They're not one or two players away, so 172 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: still things you need to fit here. Yeah, I think 173 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: you could still let another cornerback if you want to 174 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: get another young guy in the room. 175 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a bad thing. If you want 176 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: to go there guys on my board. 177 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: At that position, Paul, I got DJ James, TJ Tampa, 178 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: Chris Abrams, Draine. You want to go a little further 179 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: down the list, Jarvis, bigger guys, Kyrie Jackson, cam Hart, 180 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: Demicharion Richardson. 181 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: Then you get to you know, the Smith. 182 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: Chow with Kayln Carson yet Forrest I have. 183 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: Him as a fifth, but he has not gone. He 184 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: has not gone yet. That's that's another name i'd throw out. 185 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: Josh Newton from TCU, Neamiah Pritchett, So guys like that 186 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: running back though, to me, this is this is always 187 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: the sweet spot for me. Paul and I think it's 188 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: worked out only four running backs winning Round three, So 189 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: we're gonna have a run coming up here. I don't 190 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 2: know when it's happening, but it's gonna happen soon. And 191 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 2: there's still some good running backs left on the board. 192 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: Ray Davis from Kentucky, Audric Estime from Notre Dame. That's 193 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: a guy, according to reports, was in for one of 194 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: the Giants. 195 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: Thirty visits. 196 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, over the course of this offseason, and I think 197 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 2: again at the point you meet a lot yesterday. 198 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: He's a good ying to the. 199 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: Yang of Devin Singletary and they comment each other very well. 200 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: If you want a receiver, Shipley Hat of Clemsons out there. 201 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: If you want speed, Jalen Right from Tennessee is out there. 202 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: So those are my top four running backs left. Maybe 203 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: you're a Bucky Irving fan from Oregon, he's still there. 204 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: Tyrone Tracy is kind of an upside guy. If you 205 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 2: like another big guy, breyln Allen's on the board, Isaac 206 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: Grendo's on the board. So a lot of good running backs, 207 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: Paul that could interest teams here in around number four. 208 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think here's the other problem though. 209 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 3: If you're the Giants, if we are to agree that 210 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: they could use a power running back, but then the 211 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: other potentially important need is a tight end. Do you 212 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 3: decide to grab the tight end maybe in round four 213 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: and wait for the running back in round five? Now, 214 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 3: I don't think estimate gets to the fifth, so I 215 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 3: would want to take him. But could you potentially do that? Yah, 216 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: you might get wait because. 217 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: You might get wiped out of tight end, Paul, because 218 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 2: there are not a lot of guys that that. 219 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: That's my problem. 220 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 3: So if you really want a tight end, if you 221 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: want Johnson from penns State, who was another the athletic 222 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 3: tight end, reportedly visited the Giants during one of his trips, 223 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 3: if you want a Johnson, you probably got to get 224 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: him here. 225 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 2: Yes, theo Johnson is specific. Yes, I have four tight 226 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: ends that I would pick in the cup. There's Lady Robinson, Paul, 227 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: one of your sleeper guys going to the Patriots. That's 228 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: high offensive lineman so Kate Stover Jared Wiley. Stover's more 229 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: of a two way player, Wiley's more of a receiver type. 230 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: You mentioned Theo Johnson more of a receiver Typeman, Tanner 231 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 2: McLachlan more of a receiver type as well, and then 232 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: Eric All probably is a later round pick just because 233 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 2: of all the injury issues. 234 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 3: Is it's Stover's still out there, isn't he? 235 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 236 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: That was the first guy did is the two way guy. 237 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: Then Wiley, McLaughlin and Theo Johnson are more of your 238 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,599 Speaker 2: receiving tight ends. So those are the guys that I 239 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: would consider with fourth round selections at the tight end 240 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 2: spot if you want to go there. But I feel 241 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: to your point, I liked the running backs are higher 242 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 2: graded players on my board than these tight ends. But 243 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 2: there are more running backs that can play left than 244 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: I think there are tight end So you're right, that 245 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 2: is an interesting debate they're probably having as you plan 246 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: the strategy of your draft, more than just evaluating the player. 247 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: Now. 248 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 3: I gave you a comment at lunchtime before we came 249 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: in here, and I said, John, I got a real 250 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 3: strong feeling in my stomach the Giants are going to 251 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 3: move up into the bottom of the fourth round to 252 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 3: help alleviate this quandary and either move up into the 253 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 3: bottom of the fourth or move up a lot higher 254 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 3: into the fifth. 255 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: That'll probably cost a pick from next. 256 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 3: Year's correct do it, because you don't have enough draft 257 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 3: capital this year to make that happen. 258 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: Sixth round picks not going to move the needle. It's not, no, 259 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: it's not. Now. 260 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 3: What you might have to do is to move up 261 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 3: into the bottom of the fourth you might have to 262 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: give up your five or six and something from next year. 263 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: It seems to be some debate in the Cardinals war 264 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: room right now. 265 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. So you know, I strongly believe if you think that, hey, 266 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: you really do need to get a running back, and 267 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: you really do need to get a tight end, and 268 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 3: you want to fill those two positions with your next 269 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 3: two picks, John, you're gonna have to move up into 270 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: the bottom of the fourth round. I think to get both. 271 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw one other player out there, or two 272 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: other players that I'm not saying they're sticking out like 273 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: sewer thumbs, but they're certainly they're both top eighty five 274 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 2: players for me on my board. 275 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 5: Hmm. 276 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: And there's position in need Makai Wingo the three technique 277 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: out of value. Yeah, he's a very good player. I 278 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: like him. 279 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: One of our callers yesterday brought this player up. I 280 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: have him a little bit further down than Wingo about 281 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: fifteen spots, maybe Brandon Dorles, the versus defensive lineman of 282 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: Art of Oregon. So those are two guys. It's really 283 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: defensive tackle. Really think I have no one else until 284 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: the fifth round and that really So if you want 285 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: to go defensive tackle, here is a three technique. I 286 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: would understand going down that road as well, because I 287 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 2: think both those guys right now would be good value 288 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: at that at this particular juncture. 289 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know, we knew going in that 290 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 3: the defensive tackle spot was already fit going into this draft. 291 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 3: There was only a couple of guys, and if you 292 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 3: didn't get him really early, you were going to have 293 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 3: to wait quite a while to get decent value with 294 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: the spot. So it doesn't surprise me because it was 295 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 3: not a primary need for me with the Giants that 296 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 3: they didn't go high for one. 297 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's get to the calls here. Two 298 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: oh one nine three nine four five one three. If 299 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 2: I did guess right now. I think if he's there, 300 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: I think it'd be estimate. What do you think? 301 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: I'm on my hands and knees for it, man, No. 302 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm ask you to predict, though, and I know that's 303 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: what you want. 304 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 3: I want in the worst way. If they do want him, 305 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 3: they gotta take him here. They can't afford to wait. 306 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 3: I would say, yeah, i'd feel I'd be fine with that. 307 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 3: I would say I could predict that. 308 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: I don't like to think they're doing that though. You 309 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: think they're doing a tight end. What do you think. 310 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 3: I think they'll take him here and trade up into. 311 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: The bottom of the fourth and the tight end. 312 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I think they're gonna do. 313 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 2: I have Wiley and Stover basically touching with both high 314 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: fourth round grades. One is my one thirteenth player. One 315 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: is my one four fourteenth player. So I think that 316 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 2: that would fit here of value, So thank you. 317 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 3: They could probably get McLaughlin in the lower fource. 318 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you got it. I think that's the 319 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: guy you have the best. Kay. 320 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: I agree with that, So that's why I'm gonna I'm 321 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: gonna get I think estimate is more important to them anyway. 322 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 3: I want the big power back. I think they understand that, 323 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: So you go grab him now and then go get 324 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 3: one of those tight ends in the lower fourth if 325 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: you can move up, and I think they will. 326 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: Try hard to move up. All right. 327 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: Two to one, nine three nine four five one three. Folks, 328 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: go subscribe to our Giants Total podcast. It's our interview podcast. 329 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: We've had great draft interviews, much of which now are 330 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: kind of not timely because the draft has happened. But 331 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: we're gonna have a lot more stuff coming this week. 332 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: I'll reach out, I'll try to get some of the 333 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: college coaches of a lot of these players that the 334 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: Giants have drafted. 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Go check it 344 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: out subscribe on your favorite podcast platform. 345 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: You could do that too, and if you like. 346 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 2: What you hear in Apple Podcasts, leave a five star 347 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: positive review for all of our podcasts. And by the way, 348 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: also Big Blue Kickoff Live, which is our live show 349 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: every Monday through Friday at twelve thirty right here on 350 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: giants dot com. 351 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: Make sure you go check that out. 352 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: The Cardinals pick safety Daidrian Taylor Demerson, who's a real 353 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: big guy, really nice metrics, good player, good value here 354 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: for them in round number four? 355 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: Did I have our third round grade on him? 356 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: I gotta take a look where you wound up on 357 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 2: my board. I think maybe I wound up with a 358 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: fifth on him. If when all was said and done, 359 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: maybe I forgot to put him. 360 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: On my big board. Off the check, off the check. Well. 361 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: I have my rankings here too, so I can just 362 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: go to my ranking sheet. I have him with a Yeah, 363 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: I have him with a late third round grade. 364 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: So all right, picked that? 365 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: Let me add this John Yes, And then when I 366 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: get to the call yeah, Big Book Kickoff Live. Remember 367 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 3: you can always go back to the archive. Mas maybe 368 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 3: if you have a minute, would you kindly check out 369 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: if it's If it's easily accessible. What days on BBKL 370 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 3: we talk to the radio voices. 371 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: Of our top three picks. I will go back and 372 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: I'll retweet those at some point. Yeah, and tomorrow, you. 373 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 3: Know, because obviously you know, like I said, when we 374 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 3: do our BBKL previews with these guys, we're trying to 375 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 3: get you the guys who have their boots on the 376 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: ground and who have seen these guys each and every 377 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 3: week for years. They're scouting reports on these guys is 378 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 3: much better than anything else that we could tell you 379 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 3: or you're going to read, because they're there and they 380 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 3: know everything about these folks. So yeah, I would definitely 381 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 3: if you have time, even before John tweets it. 382 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 2: Out, I don't go back and look, I don't think, well, 383 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: don't do it now, because should we keep listening to this? 384 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: That's true. 385 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 2: But book market, I don't believe we did Kentucky. But 386 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 2: but but we did do Minnesota. 387 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: Definitely did Minnesota, and we did LSU for sure. 388 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't remember if we did Kentucky. I'm not sure, 389 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 3: to be honest. 390 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't recall that anyway. 391 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: But John, we only have so many days, folks, four, five, one, three, 392 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 2: let's go to Sean and Iowa. 393 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: He's gonna lead us off today, Sean, what's going on? 394 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 4: Hey, guys? Well, first of all, John, I just found 395 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 4: out on the show the other day that you're an 396 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 4: Iowa Hawkeye fan. So let's go Hawk. 397 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: Where in Iowa are you, Sean? That's what I want 398 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: to know. Where are you in Des Moines? Are you 399 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: in Iowa City? Where you at? 400 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 4: So we're in the Iowa City area. Actually right now, 401 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 4: I'm driving my daughter all the way to the western 402 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 4: border of the state for a basketball tournament. What better 403 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 4: way to spend the drive than to talk to you guys. 404 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's fantastic. 405 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: I will be in the Clive West Des Moines area 406 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: the week of the fourth of July. 407 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: So I will be spending a week in Iowa in July. 408 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 4: Awesome, awesome, Awesome, It'll. 409 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: Be hot, so yeah, I know, especially i've been there 410 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: before July. It's not fun. 411 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 4: So I tell you what, man, lifelong giants, Man, Paul, 412 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 4: I love when you're on. Originally from New York. Both 413 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 4: sides of my family remind me of friends and family 414 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 4: that I missed here in Iowa. But the other day, Uh, 415 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 4: there's been a lot of covers that he so forgive me. 416 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 4: It was probably right after we picked neighbors. You listed 417 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 4: off the receivers that we got. Uh, you know that 418 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 4: that's starting four when we put eleven personnel on the field. 419 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 4: So it's sabers Hyatt Robinson and what sight is that? Right? Right? 420 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 4: And he said, if you're a d C, how do 421 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 4: you defend me? And and I've been to DC's high 422 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 4: school level. It doesn't make me an expert, but it 423 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 4: does give me an answer to that. And if I 424 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 4: was good, if I had an NFL per tonel. 425 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: Oh no, oh, match there you go. 426 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 4: If if I'm an NFL DC, I got some dudes, right, 427 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 4: I know, we got dudes. But I'm gonna match up 428 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 4: my bets on your bet play safety over the top, 429 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 4: and then I'm gonna send it. I'm sending pressure, pressure, pressure, 430 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 4: because the O long the old line is the week 431 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 4: and I don't want to be a wet blanket. 432 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: I don't blame you. That would be the first thing 433 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: I do too. I would blame you. 434 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 3: This offensive line has improven that they can they can protect. 435 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: I get you, I get you, you know. 436 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 4: So I'm hoping that these guys that have come in 437 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 4: and some of the guys are getting healthy, are gonna 438 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 4: get Daniels sometime, Uh, to get after it, you know. 439 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 4: But I just I was listening to it and I thought, 440 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 4: you know what, all this is exactly what I would do. 441 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 2: And Sean, by the way, Sean, real quick, the trick 442 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: with that is, and I agree, that's the plan. 443 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: The problem is that if you man of Neighbors and 444 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: he beats your guy off the line, or you set 445 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: a little ticket the line of scrimmage for him and 446 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: he gets some space that could be a touchdown. Yeah, 447 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: he could go get it. 448 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 4: I get it. I totally get it. 449 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 3: And you know, the other reason why Rondel Robinson and 450 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 3: Neighbors on the field at the same time could be 451 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 3: tricky is because they've got a lot of gadget stuff 452 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 3: that they could do with those guys. You could line 453 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: them up in a bunch, you could put one in 454 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 3: your double slot, you could do one in each slot. 455 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 3: You could motion them, you could do wildcat, you could 456 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 3: do jet sweep. There's a lot of stuff that I 457 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 3: could do to give you a headache, you know. 458 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 4: So I think the biggest thing that Neighbors brings in 459 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 4: my opinion, obviously he's got the skill set, but he 460 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:48,239 Speaker 4: he he gives the option with the rest of the 461 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 4: offense that we haven't had, and that's really what I'm 462 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 4: excited about. 463 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: Cool showing, good stuff, my man. Good to hear from you. 464 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 1: Safe travels. Thank you, so shape the goal. Let's go 465 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: to Hugo in New Jersey's up next. Here you go. 466 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 6: Hey, good after you guys. Thanks once again for all 467 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 6: the great work and for keeping up the stamina through 468 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 6: this long weekend. You know, I guess. A few weeks 469 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 6: ago on BBKL, I mentioned that one of the things 470 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 6: the Giants needed was a plot corner that would be 471 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 6: able to support the run game. And one of the 472 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 6: things coach Stables said yesterday is that Phillips really brings 473 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 6: the lumber. 474 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 3: Oh he's aggressive and he's tough. 475 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 6: So you know, in some ways, I see that as 476 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 6: a move that may improve us in two positions in 477 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 6: the slot and by giving us the flexibility to move 478 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 6: flat outside really put a three corner package out on 479 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 6: the field that is improved and better against the run. 480 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 6: And I think this safety is going to be better 481 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 6: against the run than Kin, who I never really saw 482 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 6: as a great run support player. And as you recall 483 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 6: for some period last year, the Giants treated a wide 484 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 6: receiver screen defending a wide receiver screen like like it 485 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 6: was some novel thing. They just couldn't do it right. 486 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 6: You would get teams in thirds and long. I was 487 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 6: in a wide receiver screen those for fifteen or something, 488 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 6: So I think this was a very They were necessary moves. 489 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 6: I was a little disappointed in the safety at forty seven, 490 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 6: just because positional value didn't marry up with such a 491 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 6: premium pick. And you know, one of the things I've 492 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 6: been worrying about the whole off season is the defensive 493 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 6: line and lack of a three technique, and I'm not 494 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 6: sure that can get fixed in a significant way at 495 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 6: this stage of the draft. 496 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: So the only problem is that there was a huge 497 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: run on those guys before the Giants. 498 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 6: Were in corners. But you know, I was kind of 499 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 6: hoping for Jenkins at that point, and he went two 500 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 6: picks after the safety was taken. 501 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: Chris Jenkins got you. I got Chris Jenkins. 502 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 6: Chris Jenkins, Chris Jenkins. 503 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:14,719 Speaker 5: Ye. 504 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 6: Look, but either way with with you know, a second 505 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 6: round pick or a third round pick, I'm not sure 506 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 6: that's going to be enough to address the issue, and 507 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 6: I'm not sure what can be done at this point. 508 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 6: If you recall, going way back to the beginning of 509 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 6: free agency, I was the Christian Wilkins guy, right. 510 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that would have cost you a lot of money. 511 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 6: Well, well, you could think of that as a true 512 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 6: do you want bet or do you want Bryan burn 513 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 6: giving up the ninth. 514 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: Or well, see, to be honest, you goough. 515 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 3: I think we both agree with you that a three 516 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 3: technique defensive tackle on this roster would be helpful. But 517 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 3: there also could be some guy who pops free over 518 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 3: the summer too. 519 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 6: Well, I hope that's the case, because I'm really I'm 520 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 6: really worried about this. I mean, there's hope in some 521 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 6: young guys, but if we really think about it, you know, 522 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 6: Nacho and fill Ups the guy, we just sigh. They're 523 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 6: kind of older. There's been more like rotation players, and 524 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 6: then we're hoping for young guys and so so Dexter's 525 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 6: all we really got, and we got, you know, some 526 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 6: very prominent offensive lines in the NFC East, and Dallas 527 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 6: just keep adding to that decision, which is you know, 528 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 6: makes my head kind of blow up because they're always 529 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 6: successful with all their offensive line picks. 530 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: So wow, they are You're right about that. Somebody said 531 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: to me this morning. I appreciate that. Call me in. 532 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: Uh, somebody said to me this morning, and I kind 533 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 3: of said, you know, it's a huge question mark. I 534 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 3: can't go there. Can DJ Davidson do it? I don't know. 535 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 3: That's a huge question mark for me, don't. I don't 536 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 3: know if he can help out there. I think Riley 537 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 3: can help out spelling Dexter. Riley to me's a nose tack. 538 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 3: He's not a three technique, He's a nose tackle. I agree, 539 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 3: So Riley can help spell him, and I feel pretty 540 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 3: good that he can give us a few snaps. 541 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: And Nacho's kind of the tweeterer, right, he could, right. 542 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 3: But so the question was asked to me is, well, 543 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 3: what do you think do you think that you know 544 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 3: Davidson could be of some help, And that's a big 545 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 3: question for me. 546 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: I just don't know the answer to that. 547 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 2: So we got Brandon London, a moni tumor in Germany 548 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 2: announcing the Giants pick here and they select THEO Johnson 549 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: tight End out of Penn State, one of the guys 550 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 2: you mentioned here, and we tight End just talked about him, 551 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 2: thinking maybe you get the running back first, you get 552 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 2: the tight end later. 553 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 3: Johnson would have been at the top of our want list. 554 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 3: They decide to go for Johnson. Now, I still think 555 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 3: they're going to trade into the bottom of the fourth 556 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 3: round if possible, and try to get a running ball. 557 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 2: Well, let's tell fans about THEO Johnson six six, two 558 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty nine pounds from Windsor, Ontario originally. Believe 559 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 2: it or not, I betcha, Paul, you didn't know this. 560 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 2: His dad was drafted in the seventh round, picked one 561 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: ninety three, in the nineteen eighty draft by the New 562 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 2: York Football Giants. 563 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: I did not know that. I did not. He's so 564 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: he's Canadian and. 565 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 3: His dad where does dad play? Does it say? 566 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: His dad played receiver at Mott Community College in Hillsdale's 567 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 2: College from seventy eight to seventy nine and was drafted 568 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,239 Speaker 2: in the seventh round, one ninety pick one ninety three 569 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 2: of the nineteen eighty NFL Draft by the New York jo. 570 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 3: I don't remember him. I don't. I seriously, I don't 571 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 3: remember him. 572 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: By life, folks. This is why Dan Brugler is the Beast, 573 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: is the best drats right on the planet. You know 574 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: what I know? 575 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 3: Again, Canadian player that much, I knew, but I don't 576 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 3: remember his dad and obviously not coming from a power 577 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 3: program either. 578 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 2: Right, So you guys gotta understand too when we look 579 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 2: at the stats here for him, Penn State's offensive system 580 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: and lack of quarterback players will adversely impact these numbers. 581 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: So career at Penn State over four years. He's twenty 582 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: three years old, by the way, because you Canada requires 583 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: more years of high school US does, correct, He's twenty 584 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: three already. Seventy seven catches nine hundred and thirty eight 585 00:26:58,359 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: yards over four years at Penn State. 586 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: Touchdowns just six. 587 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: Drops over four years, which is a very low number, 588 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: which is what you like to see. But it's his 589 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 2: traits that I think have people excited about Si Johnson, 590 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 2: as I mentioned, sixty six one two fifty nine, ran 591 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 2: a four to five seven in the forty yard dash 592 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 2: of that size, a one six to one ten yard 593 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: split jump, thirty nine and a half inches in the 594 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 2: vertical jump, ten and a half feet in the broad jump, 595 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: ran a four to one nine short shuttle, seven to 596 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: one to five three cone, and he's got thirty three 597 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: inch arms nineteen on the bench at his pro day. 598 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 2: So this is a guy, Paul that checks all the 599 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: boxes from a physical standpoint, yep can catch the football. 600 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: And again we just haven't seen the production because of 601 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: that offensive system they have at Penn State. Watching him 602 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 2: on tape, for me, I didn't quite see the time, speed, athleticism, 603 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: and I can get that sometimes when I watch bigger guys, 604 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: I sometimes. 605 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: Don't see it on tape. But he look, you're in 606 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: round four. 607 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 2: Tight end is generally a traits as I sh Paul, 608 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,479 Speaker 2: you want to pick the big, fast guys and then 609 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 2: develop them, and that's the Giants have done theo Johnson 610 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: with a ton of promise. 611 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 3: My notes on him were like his frame, his hands, 612 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 3: a good speed for his frame. You just talked about 613 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 3: his frame, john This is a big guy now, all right, 614 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 3: He's he's sturdy and that a good block or two 615 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,959 Speaker 3: he can block. He's got that ability. He's not lazy 616 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 3: in doing so. Did want to polish his routes up 617 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 3: some and get off at the line of scrimmage in 618 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 3: his pass routes. Got to get a little bit better 619 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 3: at that too. But again we talked about Penn State's offense. 620 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 3: This is not exactly a focus of what they do, 621 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: so there's a possibility, you know, you can coach that up. 622 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 3: Truth of the matter is, though, from an athletic perspective, 623 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 3: he is a highly athletic player for his size, and 624 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 3: this is a good value need picker as far as 625 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 3: I'm concerned. 626 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, no question. 627 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,479 Speaker 2: Dame Brugle had a third round grade on him in 628 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: his Draft guard Greg in his Ry draft guide. I 629 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: had a fourth round grade on him myself. Giants are 630 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 2: picking the top of the fourth round, good value pick. 631 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring up my notes on him too. That 632 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: was just be going off of memory what I've written 633 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 2: down here. Fourth round tape, but his fourth round tape, 634 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 2: but his traits will probably push him into the third 635 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: round is what I write here. Rotational tight end that 636 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: can be taken. That had a really good athletic traits, 637 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: but it needs to show up warm production on tape. 638 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 3: Well, there's upside to him because of the system and 639 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 3: what he was playing with with the the Lions. 640 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: No question. 641 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: All right, do you want to take some reaction, Guys, 642 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 2: We're gonna go to a round one o'clock, maybe a 643 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 2: little bit past. If you get enough calls because the 644 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 2: NFL cannel doesn't allow us to stream for more than 645 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: an hour on day three of the draft. 646 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: So that's what we're gonna do. 647 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 2: Give us a call two on one nine three nine 648 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: four five one three. 649 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: Let's go to James and Georgia. He's up next day. 650 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 7: James, Hey, what's going on? That's actually pulling. 651 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 8: Up to a con here? 652 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 7: Enjoying short love to pick with the tight end? I said, 653 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 7: Joe Shane's really been killing this year. A couple of 654 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 7: conversations that have been had, I know I called a 655 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 7: couple of days ago when Bob Papa was saying that 656 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 7: pass rush really isn't a thing in need, and Polly 657 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 7: you was saying, how you were kind of echoing what 658 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 7: I've been saying that it is because we can't really 659 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 7: depend on what we've been getting out of a viv 660 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 7: o Glai. Do you think that the that the position 661 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 7: I know y'all have just hit on it is too 662 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 7: depleted to maybe find somebody in the sixth if we 663 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 7: do trade back up into the fourth or whatever. 664 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 2: He jeez, I think what Papa was saying not that 665 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 2: they couldn't use help there just because of what they 666 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 2: have there. 667 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: It's not as pressing of a need as other spots, 668 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of a lower priority. I wouldn't mind 669 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: seeing somebody else come in higher priority, and that's fine. 670 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 3: I think there were other higher priorities for me. But 671 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 3: I agree with you that it's something that was still 672 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 3: floating in my mind. 673 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 2: Like do you think it's a higher priority than running 674 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 2: back for example Jams? 675 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, okay, and that's okay. 676 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 7: We need we need defensive line help because you just 677 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 7: Jayden Daniels, Jeff came in. We still got to deal 678 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 7: with beck like the quarterbacks, and we got to get 679 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 7: the saquon the quarterbacks are running back haven't slacked off 680 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 7: in our division in my opinion, and we haven't. 681 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 9: You know, beside Burns. 682 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's a good addition, but I. 683 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 9: Still think we need, you know, we need a little 684 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 9: more help, and not not that it's not as pressing, 685 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 9: as as more pressing than maybe, like you say, running 686 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 9: back or uh, I think it's one in one. 687 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 7: Day, you know what I mean? 688 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely? 689 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 7: And my last my last o line also too depleted 690 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 7: for save the six and who y'all targeting next outside 691 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 7: of side running back? Here with the next pick. 692 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 2: Appreciate the call, James, thank you very much. I think 693 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 2: a three technique defensive tackle, running back, another corner. You 694 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 2: want to pick a pass rusher on, fine, what that do? 695 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 2: At this point, I'm fine with all the all those. 696 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 3: Things outside of trying to get the big power back. 697 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 3: And again, I hope they can trade up into the 698 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 3: lower fourth to do it. To me, whatever picks they 699 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 3: have left, simply just go best player available. 700 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: I'm willing to throw Knead out the door. 701 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 2: As I've said, when you get to day three, you 702 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 2: just try to pick players that you think can help you. 703 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: That's it. Force it a certain position. Just take a 704 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: guy who, hey, you know what, he's got some skills. 705 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 4: Go. 706 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 3: I'm taking need out of the equation. If I can 707 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 3: get that running back, my world, I'm taking need out 708 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 3: of the equation. 709 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: All right. 710 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: By the way, Kyrie Jackson to the Vikings at one 711 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 2: oh eight, pick one oh nine. The Falcons selected Brandon Dorles, 712 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 2: a lot of the guys we've mentioned here, and then 713 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: the Patriots like Javon Baker wide receiver right of UCF. 714 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 2: I think that's a nice addition for them. 715 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: I actually like Baker more than like Jalen Polk, the 716 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: receiver they picked at the top round two. 717 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 3: So again we're still seeing quality receivers. As we discussed 718 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 3: all along available and going in the fourth round. This 719 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 3: was a very deep receiver draft, and it's proving out 720 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 3: to be that way. What their production is over time, 721 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 3: the truth will be in the pudding. But we knew 722 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 3: you'd be able to draft guys that had something to offer. 723 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 2: In the fourth round, Packers just traded up for pick 724 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 2: one to eleven with the Jets. Well of that pick 725 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 2: in a minute two nine three nine four five one three. 726 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: In the meantime, Walter's in Nebraska. Walter, we have shown 727 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 2: in the car and Iowa heading in your direction. 728 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: My friend, well listen to. 729 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 8: My daughter called me yesterday about the storms and everything 730 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 8: like that, and I'm just I'm sitting there all into 731 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 8: the draft. I'm like, man, just leave me along, like 732 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 8: the storms aren't gonna be thinking And I felt so bad. 733 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 5: I watched the news. 734 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: Later on ye tornadoes, right, they were crazy. 735 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 5: I heard where all of her neighbors she doesn't live 736 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 5: like she lives like maybe hour away from me and 737 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 5: one of the other cities and stuff, old stuff. 738 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 3: Hope everything is safe for everybody out there, whoever's impacted 739 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 3: or scared or frightened from this stuff. 740 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: Please God bless all of you. 741 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 8: I appreciate that, Pauly du Listen. I just called in 742 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 8: about a couple of little points. Paul, you were right. 743 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:24,760 Speaker 8: I think I want estimate. He's just like straightforward, all business. 744 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 8: You know, he looks to like maneuver. And the one 745 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 8: other quick thing that I noticed about him is just 746 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 8: that like when he leaves his feet, it's never it doesn't. 747 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 8: It never seems like long. Where's like he's going to 748 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 8: hurt himself, Like you know when when other backs or 749 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 8: other people do that, I'm always like, well you did 750 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 8: that to escape one defender, but the other one is 751 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 8: just like two yards on you. This guy, he's like 752 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 8: a hurdle. 753 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 5: He's it's just wonderful. 754 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 8: And I had one quick question, well not really a question, 755 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 8: I guess the and I know it's like all inside business, 756 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 8: but the Bears, I don't understand how we let fields 757 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 8: go to the Steelers without like for a six round pick, 758 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 8: like the Giants could have did something there, knowing that 759 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 8: we have a question mark that quarterback, and I know 760 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 8: that they you know, the I guess the word is 761 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 8: just that they wanted to give him an opportunity to 762 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 8: go where he wanted to write his own ticket to 763 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 8: where we wanted to go. 764 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think the issue with Fields Walter 765 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 2: and I tried to bring this up at the time 766 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 2: to make people understand. 767 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: The reason I think his market wasn't as. 768 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 2: Robust as some people thought it would be is the 769 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 2: fact that he was on the last year of his 770 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 2: rookie deal and we just heard the Steelers are not 771 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 2: going to pick up his fifth year option, so it 772 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 2: was basically just a one year rental, which is why 773 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 2: I think his market was much more timid than when 774 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 2: a lot of people, including myself, thought it was going 775 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 2: to be. 776 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 3: You know, I may now disconnect with you after we 777 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 3: just agreed on what we were going to do before. 778 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 3: But if I were the I would have built around Fields. 779 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 3: I would not have taken Williams. I would have traded 780 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 3: out of that pick, got a host of more players, 781 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 3: And I know it's hard to do, especially with the 782 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 3: public outcry, but I would have. 783 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 2: Started public outcry. Paulish think they couldn't get better than 784 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 2: a sixth round pick for Justin Fields. They could have 785 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 2: gotten a bajillion first round pick for Caleb Williams. I 786 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 2: think it tells you what the league thinks of those 787 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 2: two players. 788 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 3: Understood, But there's also the quarterback inflation with you know, 789 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,439 Speaker 3: with these kinds of guys. 790 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but why would it Fields have that inflation too. 791 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: He's also, like you just said, the contract issue. 792 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 2: I understand, but there's such a divergence of the the 793 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 2: what they could have gotten for. That's you have to 794 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 2: look at how the league thinks of it, right, what 795 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 2: you could have gotten for Caleb Williams versus what you 796 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 2: could have gotten for justin Fields. 797 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 3: They're literally you to miles apart, right, which is why 798 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 3: I would have taken what I could have gotten for Williams. 799 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 3: I would have stuck with Fields. If I was in Chicago, 800 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 3: I would have stuck with Fields, and I would have 801 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 3: continued to build around them. Are getting to be pretty decent. 802 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 3: They got some talent on that team now. 803 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: Saying well, even without making that trade though, they still 804 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: put a really nice team around Caleb Williams. 805 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 3: They have I'm just not a Caleb Williams guy anyway. 806 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 3: I like Fields better, that's all. 807 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: Do you really like Fields? 808 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 5: I do? 809 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: Even with what he's shown so far in the NFL. 810 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 3: I would rather I think. 811 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 1: I think with the additional. 812 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 3: Collateral that you would have obtained from trading that number 813 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 3: one pick, and with what Fields has to offer, the 814 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 3: net sum would have been better than what Caleb Williams 815 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 3: is going to give you. 816 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,720 Speaker 1: Win a Super Bowl justin Field as a quarterback. 817 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 3: I don't know, we don't know, we don't know, but 818 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 3: I'm not a Caleb Williams guy. I think it's he. 819 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 3: He's gonna be one of those folks a few years 820 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 3: down the road, we're going to be saying, man, that 821 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 3: was not a good number one pack. But if they 822 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 3: would have taken Drake May, I like Drake May very much. 823 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 4: You know that. 824 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,919 Speaker 2: So if it was so, if you had to pick, 825 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 2: you would have just not made the trade. You would 826 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 2: have traded Fields and taken taken May. 827 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 3: If I had no because I still think the colladal 828 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 3: I think they can still win with Fields, okay, and 829 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 3: the collateral they could have gotten for the pick would 830 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 3: have really boosted their chances to do that. 831 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: Who will disagree on that? I don't know. That's okay, 832 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: it's okay. 833 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 3: Hey, I wanted to keep carry Collins and draft Robert 834 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 3: Gallery to help the offensive line and not make the 835 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 3: trade for Eli Manning. Okay, I'm not afraid to tell you. 836 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 3: I'm here and I stand on what I believe. 837 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: Got to be right. So sometimes right, sometimes they're wrong. 838 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: Absolutely no doubt, Walter, you got anything else for us? 839 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 5: I got one last quick one. 840 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to take your time, Walter. Go ahead, no, no. 841 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 8: Worries, No worries, guys, we love the show. I got 842 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 8: one last quick thing, and I just was hoping you 843 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 8: guys might be able to shed a little light on it. 844 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 8: Like everyone else is just in all in all of 845 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 8: the draft coverage and this, that and the third Darren Waller, 846 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 8: I heard somewhere that like he's either holding out just 847 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 8: to like he you know, he may still retire, but 848 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 8: he's just holding out to get the bonus that come 849 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,919 Speaker 8: from starting in junior practices or what it may be. 850 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 8: I was hoping that you guys might be able to 851 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 8: set a little light on that. I love the show, 852 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 8: and I just wanted to let you know that I 853 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 8: would definitely buy the Smoke book as long as ALLVD 854 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 8: is wrapping it, you know, to go ahead and published. 855 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,399 Speaker 1: Office, so very good. Well, if they're good stuff. Man, 856 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: appreciate the call on guys. Figure out. We've got a 857 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: lot of new phone calls. 858 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 2: Over the last few days to the people that usually 859 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 2: I guess when they're you know, like normal people. You're 860 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 2: working during the day and you can't call when the 861 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 2: shows on from from twelve thirty to one thirty. And 862 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 2: it's been great to hear from all you guys over 863 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 2: the past couple of nights, the people that said they've 864 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 2: listened to the show for a long time. Clearly Walter 865 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 2: has he's picking up on our jokes and oh yeah, 866 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 2: oh yeah, really, guys, I can't tell you how much 867 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 2: it means to us. We really appreciate to have such 868 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 2: a loyal group of listeners and viewers out there. 869 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for that. 870 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 2: Seriously, you guys do an unbelievable job and we're humbled 871 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 2: by the viewership that we get on all of our podcasts. 872 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 2: And by the way, I do think the Theo Johnson 873 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 2: thing gives you a hint that they don't know if 874 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 2: to Aaron Waller is going to be here, so this 875 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 2: whole thing that he's just holding out to come in later. No, 876 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 2: I don't think you necessarily would be picking a tight 877 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 2: end in the spot. If that was the case, So 878 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 2: I think the Giants honestly don't know what he's going 879 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,479 Speaker 2: to do. They're giving him his room to figure it out. 880 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 2: But THEO Johnson is a receiving tight end. 881 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 1: He ran. 882 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 2: He had over two hundred snaps playing either in the 883 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 2: slat or outside last year, and he'd about three hundred 884 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 2: in line correct, so he. 885 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: Could do both. He's an athlete. 886 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 2: He is a potential replacement for Waller if he does 887 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 2: in fact retire. He's a much He's a better athlete 888 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 2: than Bellinger is. 889 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 3: Yes, and I would like to believe that where at 890 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 3: Penn State he was not necessarily a big part of 891 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 3: an explosive and exciting passing attack very much. Okay that 892 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 3: was not emphasized. I'd like to believe that he can 893 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 3: get coached up and that can be developmental. Remember, his 894 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 3: traits are really strong, so there is upside there if 895 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,879 Speaker 3: that's the way the Giants need to go. Of course, 896 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 3: the Ravens can just sit there at one thirteen. They 897 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 3: get devontees Walker, because that's what the Ravens do. They 898 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 3: sit and pick the best player of alible. When they 899 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 3: get good players, all the time for thrupting. You just 900 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 3: annoyed me. Do they always have nice fall in their 901 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 3: last And we were talking about him all night last 902 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 3: night as again one of those second tier receivers that 903 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 3: was falling like a rock. 904 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 2: And all three of those guys, Paul that we mentioned 905 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 2: in our little pre show barbecue lunch here are gone, Franklin, Baker, 906 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 2: and Walker. And those are the three guys I had 907 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 2: left with potential second round grades on him. 908 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, all gone, the first thirteen picks up. 909 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 3: And once again quality wide receiver prospect getting all the 910 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 3: way to the fourth round. We told you that that 911 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,439 Speaker 3: was going to be the situation because it was such 912 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 3: a deep situation. 913 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 2: Anyway, I interrupted, if you were still talking about the 914 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 2: Titans Pomps. 915 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 3: Oh, well, the one other thing in terms of the 916 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 3: tight end situation, the caller was on the road. Waller 917 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 3: was at a local medical center, uh, doing a speech 918 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 3: yesterday on mental health awareness. Apparently he's involved with with 919 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 3: that organization. A couple of the local riders did go 920 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 3: to see him, I guess to him before that they 921 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 3: came to the draft here at the Giants headquarters. The 922 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 3: quotes from their stories not interpretations, but the quotes from 923 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 3: their stories is that Wallace said he is preparing with 924 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 3: all his workouts as if he's going to play, but 925 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 3: he is still not made up his mind because he 926 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 3: doesn't have a clear head. 927 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: Obviously, TMZ had. 928 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 3: Been one to report that he went through a divorce 929 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 3: or was going through one right now, and so there's 930 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 3: a lot going on, you know, in his life and 931 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 3: he hasn't sorted it out and doesn't know if he 932 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 3: can fully commit mentally to being a player this year 933 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 3: to his teammates. 934 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 2: Well, even if he comes back this year, there's always 935 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 2: a chance you get decide to retire next offseason. 936 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: He's over thirty. 937 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 2: You need to replacement for him down the road, Like 938 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 2: you mentioned Theo Johnson because of the Penn State offense. 939 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 2: Bit of a developmental guy. So the pick would still 940 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:47,959 Speaker 2: make sense even if. 941 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 3: He's absolutely you know, whether or not you took him 942 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 3: early fourth, late fourth, whatever it was. The Giants obviously 943 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 3: saw that there was a lot of upside and they 944 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 3: they made the move. 945 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,320 Speaker 2: Let's go to my current hometown. Let's go to Abby 946 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 2: and Nutley. Abby, what's going on? 947 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 10: Hey, what's up? 948 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 4: Man? 949 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: Are you doing? 950 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 5: Paul I? 951 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: You doing that? 952 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 4: So far? 953 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 11: You know, I'm excited. You know, the bottom line is 954 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 11: that you know, so Shane is trying to do, you know, 955 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 11: fill up the holes that we have. You know, I 956 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 11: like the Tanov and pick at safety, you know, with 957 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 11: like McKenny, the fact that we got a number one 958 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 11: receiver in neighbors, you know, I like that. Also. I 959 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 11: was happy to hear that they were aggressive trying to 960 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 11: go out to tariff mate Drake May because that was 961 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 11: the quarterback that I really wanted another. We got only 962 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 11: two picks left so far, and you know, still a 963 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 11: way to go to one sixty six and like you, Paul, 964 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,760 Speaker 11: want a power running back just in case I missed 965 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 11: Joymon Jacobs a lot means that, you know, having that 966 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 11: power late in games. But so far, you know, I'm 967 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 11: still hoping that Spencer Rattler hits here. I know he's 968 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 11: a quarterback that it seemed like a very I saught 969 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 11: quarterback coming out of college a couple of years ago. 970 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 11: I guess they had that type of hYP I don't 971 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 11: know what really happened. He kind of fell off, but 972 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 11: so far, you know, I like the direction from the 973 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 11: team and going and I like to take Johnson fick 974 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 11: I tie it end like, yeah, we're talking about wall 975 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 11: and everything going exactly what's going to happen with him? 976 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 11: But the bottom line, this kid looks, you know, like 977 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 11: it has a good potential to actually be kind of 978 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,320 Speaker 11: like a weapon on then and stuff like that and 979 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 11: com blog so prod we get you know, our own 980 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 11: keelty or great. But other than that, one to say 981 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 11: thank you for your coverages. You know, everything you do 982 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 11: for the last couple of years, it's been awesome, you know, 983 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 11: bringing out the information day by day, year by years. 984 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 11: You know, I know it has to be hardboy, and 985 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 11: I appreciate what you're doing. Thank you so much. 986 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 1: No, I appreciate it man. Thank you again. 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I love 1018 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 10: to pick with a tight end from Penn State, Theo Johnson. 1019 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,840 Speaker 10: I wanted to get a take on him with just 1020 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 10: Avian Sanders going with the first pick to Carolina. How 1021 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,840 Speaker 10: did y'all head them? Messed up? And how do you 1022 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,320 Speaker 10: compare them? As far as the Theo Johnson and Sanders 1023 00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 10: where did y'all have them ranked this far? At the 1024 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 10: tight end and as far. 1025 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 2: As those two, I had Sanders a little bit higher 1026 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 2: than Johnson, probably by about twenty slots or so. But 1027 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 2: it's a tough spot because if you put THEO Johnson 1028 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 2: in that Texas offense, I think there's a good chance 1029 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 2: he's just as productive as Sanders, right right, Johnson I 1030 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,320 Speaker 2: think might have Actually I'll look at their RAS scores, 1031 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 2: but I think they actually I think he might have 1032 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,320 Speaker 2: tested a little bit better. But and he's and the 1033 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:26,800 Speaker 2: other thing too, at Johnsons a little bit of a 1034 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 2: bigger frame, so I think he held question. He has 1035 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 2: more blocking upside than Sanders does in my opinion, So 1036 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 2: that is kind of what differentiates those two guys for me. 1037 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no doubt the frame makes Johnson much more attractive. 1038 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 3: And john makes the best point of all. You're talking 1039 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 3: about two guys in totally different systems, the way that 1040 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 3: they run their passing game and the way they utilize 1041 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 3: their tight ends. So you have to really project based 1042 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,720 Speaker 3: what your upside is for Johnson if he was allowed 1043 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 3: to use all of his tools and was in a 1044 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 3: system that was more conducive to getting some of those 1045 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 3: headlined or highlight kind of plays that we're talking about. 1046 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 3: It's it's it's hard to do, but you gotta project it. 1047 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 3: I'm I'm happy with Johnson, all. 1048 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 10: Right, That's what I was thinking. As far as I 1049 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 10: said what he wasn't really utilized in Pennis Tecady was 1050 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 10: a run heavy team, absolutely utilized. So I love the 1051 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 10: Johnson pick. 1052 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,359 Speaker 1: And by the way, and bash real quick. Even when 1053 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 1: they threw it. Penn State's quarterback play was not great, 1054 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,399 Speaker 1: not great, not the best this year. 1055 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 10: One thing only wished as far as that we would 1056 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 10: have traded back with that pick. I seen it was 1057 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 10: a lot of tight ends available in this area. As 1058 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 10: far as the fourth rounds, I wish with a trade 1059 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 10: back with just having a late pick in the fifth round. 1060 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 10: As far as that, I wanted to ask about the 1061 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 10: fifth round pick. What as far I think the coats 1062 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 10: are the Bills have fit? How did that happen? As 1063 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 10: far as I know, we have to re united were 1064 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 10: late in the fifth round, But what happened with our 1065 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,799 Speaker 10: fifth round pick? I remember as far as how did. 1066 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: We swapped it Bills? 1067 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 2: The Burns deal, Yeah, the Burns deal. We swapped it 1068 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,359 Speaker 2: with the Panthers. Okay, so that's why the Panthers are 1069 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 2: picking for the Panthers are picking for us at one 1070 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 2: forty one, and we are picking for the Panthers at 1071 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 2: one sixty six. And the Panthers got one sixty six 1072 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,720 Speaker 2: from the forty nine ers I think in the Christian 1073 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:11,760 Speaker 2: McCaffrey trade. 1074 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 10: Oh okay, that's what. Okay. I didn't know why we 1075 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 10: had said. So that's why I thought we would have 1076 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 10: traded back in the fourth. I have to get some 1077 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 10: extra picks, but it's not picking it so far in 1078 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,280 Speaker 10: the fifth. So just wish that we would have traded 1079 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 10: back and probably got some work picks. And God Johns, 1080 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 10: because the's a lot of tight ends. And one more question, 1081 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 10: and I take that offline with y'all, as far as 1082 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 10: I know in New York, Monk dregyall had a couple 1083 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:37,320 Speaker 10: of weeks ago, Paul, you said something about TJ. Thompson's Tampa. 1084 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 10: So I went to the y Z falling as far 1085 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 10: as the cornerback from, not sure where you're from, the 1086 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,879 Speaker 10: Tampa cornerback is falling still sitting here in the fourth, 1087 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 10: I know, y'all, I had like a second or third, third, 1088 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 10: round grade on them. So what the thing with Tampa? 1089 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:53,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, TJ. 1090 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 2: Tampa is a big, physical wide fig quad receiver cornerback, 1091 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 2: and he doesn't, at least in my opinion, he's not 1092 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 2: a great side to side athlete, and I imagine that's 1093 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,879 Speaker 2: what probably have teams a little bit worried. He didn't 1094 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 2: run as well as you would have liked at the 1095 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 2: combine either. He was an over four or five guy 1096 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,799 Speaker 2: on a very very fast turf in Indianapolis, So that's 1097 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,359 Speaker 2: probably turned teams off a little bit too. 1098 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 3: I would guess I had three red flags on him 1099 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,319 Speaker 3: for me. One is that he gambles too much, and 1100 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,760 Speaker 3: in the NFL that will really get you burned. Doesn't 1101 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 3: wrap up very well with his tackling necessarily a little 1102 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 3: inconsistent in terms of, you know, bringing guys down. And 1103 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,759 Speaker 3: I didn't see when John says about the speed. I 1104 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 3: also didn't see that he had a second gear. If 1105 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 3: he had to slow down or stop, he wasn't able 1106 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,359 Speaker 3: to pick it up and get that second gear going off. 1107 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 3: And this is why for me he was a third round. 1108 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 3: He wasn't a first or a second rounder. But I 1109 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 3: had to pick him in all mock draft because at 1110 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 3: that time all the other corners were going and you know, 1111 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,320 Speaker 3: so it was like, okay, you know, he's a big corner, 1112 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 3: we can play outside. We'll take him in that mark 1113 00:49:59,120 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 3: that we did. 1114 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 1: But he to me was a playable. 1115 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,800 Speaker 3: He was one of in those three tiers of corners 1116 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 3: who I would have been comfortable with and said, hey, 1117 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:09,880 Speaker 3: he's got. 1118 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 1: A chance to do something. Thank you, Bash, I appreciate 1119 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:12,319 Speaker 1: the call. 1120 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,359 Speaker 2: And just when you asked about the tight ends with 1121 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 2: with Sanders and Johnson, and for those of you that 1122 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 2: have listened to our show before, you know that we 1123 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 2: like something called ris Coorse Kentley plattmath Bomb on Twitter 1124 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,720 Speaker 2: does a great job of, you know, having a historical 1125 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 2: database dating back to the eighties on all every position, 1126 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 2: their measurements and testing at the combine in terms of 1127 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 2: where they rank and THEO Johnson got a nine point 1128 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 2: nine to three, which means he scored outstanding. That's the 1129 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 2: ninety ninth percentile, that's outside standing. Jatavian Sanders was in 1130 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 2: the fifty seventh percentile, So that gives you an idea. 1131 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 2: He was in the green, which is what the you know, 1132 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:56,280 Speaker 2: the highest percentile and short shuttle three cone was barely 1133 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,759 Speaker 2: out of the green. But otherwise THEO Johnson size, wingspan, 1134 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 2: all that stuff checked every box again, ninety nine percent 1135 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 2: tile in terms of RAS athletic score. Jordan Jefferson goes 1136 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,920 Speaker 2: to the Jaguars, a really good, solid, powerful interior defensive 1137 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,319 Speaker 2: lineman like that pick for Jacksonville there. I think he's 1138 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 2: more of a nose, smaller nose than he has a 1139 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 2: three technique myself. But anyway, Paul, you we have two 1140 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 2: more calls, but why don't you give us your point 1141 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,439 Speaker 2: then we'll get to the calls because we're getting close 1142 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 2: to an hour. 1143 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:23,320 Speaker 1: Here, Okay. 1144 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 3: Simply want to say that if you're talking about the 1145 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 3: fifth round for the Giants, that's number one sixty six overall, 1146 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 3: and right now you know they are. 1147 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 1: Only at pick one point seventeen. 1148 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,799 Speaker 3: That is an awful long time to wait, which is 1149 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 3: all the more reason why I still think that that 1150 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 3: Joe Shane is going to do everything he can to 1151 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 3: get back up into the bottom of this fourth round, 1152 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 3: because if you've got to wait fifty something picks before 1153 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:52,040 Speaker 3: you grab your next need, if you believe it is 1154 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,840 Speaker 3: the big running back, I John, I don't know that 1155 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 3: you're going to be able to do it unless you 1156 00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 3: move up. 1157 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 2: Well, you got to find somebody willing to do it though, too, right, 1158 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 2: that's true that that that's always the trickle. 1159 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,320 Speaker 1: And Eric All went to the Bengals. 1160 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 2: I didn't see that he went during one of our conversations. 1161 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:08,319 Speaker 3: Here. 1162 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:09,760 Speaker 1: He's the super athletic. 1163 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 2: Tight end that's had a million knee injuries out of Iowa. 1164 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 2: Really good athlete, good player, but again he's had a 1165 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 2: lot of injury issues. So and then the Jaguars had 1166 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 2: that second pick in round number four. They took Javon Foster. 1167 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 2: He's a intriguing offensive tackle prospect. Now like him as 1168 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,360 Speaker 2: a fourth round value. He had a he had a 1169 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 2: nice showing it to Senior Bowl. So a couple of 1170 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 2: good picks to there, I think for the Jaguars. And 1171 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 2: now the Cults are on the clock at pick number 1172 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 2: one seventeen. All right, let's go back to the phones 1173 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,279 Speaker 2: at two oh one nine three, nine, four five one three. 1174 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 2: But first, just a reminder, folks, Giants season tickets giants 1175 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 2: dot com slash tickets. 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Man? 1192 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,240 Speaker 12: Hi, guys, how are you doing today? 1193 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,879 Speaker 8: We're great, okay so far. 1194 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 12: I can't say that I dislike anybody they've picked today. 1195 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 12: I'm not sure I'm crazy about the. 1196 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 10: Cornerback who's never had an interception. 1197 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 12: But the elephant in the room to me or two 1198 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,360 Speaker 12: of them are one. We ranked twenty ninth in sacks 1199 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 12: last year and I don't see any improvement in there, 1200 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 12: and we haven't had the. 1201 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 1: Worst offer well, ten ten, they traded for Brian Barnes. 1202 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,799 Speaker 12: I know what you're gonna say, but I think he's 1203 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 12: just the healthy Jalai just started to think he's the 1204 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:57,600 Speaker 12: same player but healthier. But that being said, we have 1205 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,440 Speaker 12: just kind of done a bait and switch with backup 1206 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 12: caliber O line and free agencies for two years and 1207 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,839 Speaker 12: not drafted top quality O line man when we had 1208 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,439 Speaker 12: two great guards left when we took that corner back, 1209 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,360 Speaker 12: and I don't know how any I mean. I like 1210 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 12: Daniel Jones. I think physically as all the tools to 1211 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,919 Speaker 12: be successful. I just think that management has never given him. 1212 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 10: An O line to be successful. 1213 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,880 Speaker 1: Do you think John Ryan is only a backup quality offense? 1214 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 12: No, No, John Runyon. John Runyon was a quality one. 1215 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,319 Speaker 12: I think you got if they're healthy, If they're healthy. 1216 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 12: If Tandrew Thomas, he's played one good year out of three, 1217 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 12: Neil's been nothing. Schmidt was hurt and he really wasn't superstar, 1218 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 12: and the other guys were all back ups. 1219 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 3: Stinny started for a playoff team in Tampa Bay. 1220 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, but his his his his only one year. That's 1221 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 1: tricks weren't the beat. Yeah, I get that he did start. 1222 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 12: I'm just saying. I'm just saying any health issues with 1223 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,879 Speaker 12: the Thomas again, or you know, if Neil doesn't get better. 1224 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,440 Speaker 12: I just don't understand why they're not addressing me. I mean, 1225 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 12: finally fixed the darn O line with I mean, look, 1226 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 12: could the secondary you know, I mean secondary without a 1227 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 12: pass rush is meaningless wide receivers. When we went out 1228 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 12: and got Galla Day, what's the difference? They never throw 1229 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 12: downfield without an O line, what quarterback, what running back 1230 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,960 Speaker 12: can be successful? And they keep pushing it and pushing 1231 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 12: it off with three agents. Kind, I don't know why 1232 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 12: they're never drafting the top O line. 1233 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 10: Guys. 1234 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 2: Well, they've used a lot of draft capital on offensive lineman. Now, 1235 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,319 Speaker 2: they use the first round pick on Andrew Thomas, use 1236 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,840 Speaker 2: a first round pick on Evan Neil, They used the 1237 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,759 Speaker 2: second round pick on John Michael Schmids, they used a 1238 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 2: third round pick on josh A Zudu. They've put a 1239 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 2: lot of draft capital into the position. 1240 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,280 Speaker 12: Yep, And how many have been successful? 1241 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,280 Speaker 1: No? No, but you said they did try. 1242 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 2: Yes, you said they You said they were not investing 1243 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,839 Speaker 2: hide picked. You said they did not invest high picks 1244 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 2: in the offensive line. 1245 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 1: That is not. 1246 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 12: True in the last ten years, they've taken three. Flowers 1247 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,719 Speaker 12: was one with a bus, Thomas was one who's been 1248 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 12: good when it was healthy, last the year before, and 1249 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 12: Neil has been a bull. 1250 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,359 Speaker 1: No, don't go back. Don't go back ten years, go 1251 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 1: back five years, go back six years. You're going back 1252 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 1: into a previous regime. You can't hang that on the 1253 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,080 Speaker 1: current regime. You go back five or six years. 1254 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 2: They've used two first round picks, a second round pick, 1255 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 2: and a third round pick on offensive lineman. That's a 1256 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,720 Speaker 2: lot of capital over a span of five years. 1257 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 12: I understand that. But it's still not fixed, is what 1258 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,440 Speaker 12: I'm saying. And that's been the biggest crutch on the Giants. 1259 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 12: Their offense is suffered running, the running game has suffered, 1260 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,520 Speaker 12: the downfield passing game is suffered, and Daniel Child has 1261 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 12: been running for his life and taking more sacks or 1262 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,040 Speaker 12: whoever's back there. And I'm just saying, until that fixed, 1263 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,440 Speaker 12: does any other player make a difference. 1264 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 2: Jim, totally understand what you're saying, and I don't disagree 1265 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 2: with your concept. You have to get the offensive line fixed. 1266 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,800 Speaker 2: I think the front office believes with the addition of 1267 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,839 Speaker 2: a new offensive line coach, you hope you get Evan 1268 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 2: Neil figured out a little bit. They brought in to 1269 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,359 Speaker 2: John Runyan to be a starting guard. You have John 1270 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 2: Michael Schmid's going into his second year. You have Andrew Thomas, 1271 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 2: a left tackle, So you theoretically have four your spots 1272 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 2: figured out there, right, You have your left tackle figured out, 1273 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,200 Speaker 2: you have one of your guard spots figured out. You 1274 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 2: have your center figured out. So that's three spots, pardon me. 1275 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 2: Then you bring in a guy like illumin Or who 1276 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,759 Speaker 2: has been a starter for two years. You could argue 1277 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,720 Speaker 2: whether you would rather have him be a top backup 1278 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 2: orst starter, but he has started for. 1279 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,520 Speaker 1: Two years, and then you hope Evan Neil figures it out. 1280 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,480 Speaker 2: So you have put significant resources into three of those 1281 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:13,480 Speaker 2: spots and two you don't know for sure, but I 1282 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 2: think you feel okay that you. 1283 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,520 Speaker 1: Have guys that can do the job. 1284 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 2: So, yes, could they have poured more resources into it, yes, 1285 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 2: But I do think you are then taking resources away 1286 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 2: from other positions where you can use a whole lot 1287 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 2: of help. 1288 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 3: You know, Zudo was three, that's not exactly not a resource. 1289 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 1: Oh no, it's a reason. But he just hasn't shown 1290 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 1: anything playing time, right, But they did use a three, 1291 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,040 Speaker 1: which was an effort to try to get somebody can 1292 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 1: put you on using the resources. 1293 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:39,520 Speaker 2: We're just kind of talking about kind of where we 1294 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 2: are now in terms of how confident you feel with 1295 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 2: the guys at each stuff. 1296 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,600 Speaker 12: And I'm looking at them, I mean granted, I mean, 1297 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 12: Andrew Thomas is going to go into his fourth season. 1298 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 12: Neil's going to his third. 1299 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 1: Six, right, I think it's sixtyear for Andrew Thomas. It's 1300 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,439 Speaker 1: amazing how long he's been around already, is it good? 1301 00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,280 Speaker 1: I think this is a sixty year all right, If 1302 00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, fifth or sixth Andrew Thomas year, I 1303 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 1: don't Thomas. 1304 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 12: I think Andrew Thomas is just that three years. 1305 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no fifield though he was drafted the 1306 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 2: year after Daniel Jones, Right, he was their twenty twenty 1307 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 2: first round pick. So he played in the twenty twenty season, 1308 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two. 1309 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 1: This will be his fifth season. It is his fift Yeah, 1310 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,200 Speaker 1: it's just fifth. It's amazing. It seems like he just 1311 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 1: got here yesterday. 1312 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,480 Speaker 12: Well, I guess contracts are going to come up. And 1313 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,440 Speaker 12: what I'm saying is I've seen the free agent signings. 1314 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,160 Speaker 12: I see guy, Guys, now they're gonna have to decide 1315 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 12: whether to pay him. 1316 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 1: Well, they already paid a day ten. He got a 1317 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 1: second deal. He signed through twenty twenty nine. Dude, But I'm. 1318 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,720 Speaker 12: Saying he's hurt. He'd lost the full season, and I'm saying, 1319 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,200 Speaker 12: you don't. We don't know whether what he's going to 1320 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,080 Speaker 12: come back this year. We still have no idea what 1321 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 12: Neil's going to do. I'm just saying there's no younger 1322 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 12: ones coming up to Trump to see whether they'll develop 1323 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 12: for the future. 1324 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,720 Speaker 2: I mean, Andrew Thomas came back and finished the year 1325 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,439 Speaker 2: last year. He's healthy, he's fine. You think so, Yeah, 1326 00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 2: he's absolutely fine. 1327 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 1: He had a hamstreak. 1328 00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,760 Speaker 2: Listening, you're thinking about Yeah, you're thinking about Evan Neil. 1329 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,880 Speaker 2: Evan Neil finished the year with a knee injury, and 1330 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,800 Speaker 2: he did not return. I think you confuse Neil's heading 1331 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 2: into his third season. You're confusing. 1332 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,920 Speaker 12: And I blew it because I thought Andrew Thomas missed 1333 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,280 Speaker 12: most of the season without being there. 1334 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 2: Because no, no, he missed seven games last year and he 1335 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 2: came back with the hamstring injury in the first half 1336 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,040 Speaker 2: of the year. He played the final seven games of 1337 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:21,640 Speaker 2: the year last year. 1338 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas my bad. 1339 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 12: I thought he missed. 1340 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:25,920 Speaker 1: All right, now you're all good, appreciate the call. It 1341 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 1: to him. Good stuff, my man. 1342 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,479 Speaker 2: Two to one, And look, guys, no one is more 1343 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,600 Speaker 2: sympathetic to people that want to just keep throwing resources 1344 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,320 Speaker 2: at the offensive line until you get it fixed. 1345 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:36,000 Speaker 1: I get that. 1346 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:37,800 Speaker 2: I'm never going to criticize you for that if that's 1347 00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 2: the way you feel, given what we've seen here over 1348 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,600 Speaker 2: the last seven or eight years, I totally get it. 1349 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:44,760 Speaker 1: But they did throw a lot of resources at the 1350 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 1: offensive line this offseason, so you hope that pays off. 1351 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 2: It was more throw numbers at the problem rather than 1352 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 2: you know, one huge contract for one guy. But they 1353 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 2: did throw a lot of resources at it. All right, 1354 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 2: final call the show is Aaron in Texas. Aaron, what's 1355 00:59:59,240 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 2: going on? 1356 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 13: Hey, I'm going guys, I hope you're having a good Saturday. 1357 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,240 Speaker 1: First and foremost, well tell me to you guys, we're 1358 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 1: having a great Saturday. 1359 01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:10,640 Speaker 13: Come on, Yeah, there you go, great Saturday. So I mean, 1360 01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,080 Speaker 13: this is gonna be a different call than what you 1361 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,120 Speaker 13: guys normally get. I know, normally it's a lot of 1362 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,440 Speaker 13: negative nancies per se. But I mean, I want to 1363 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 13: give props to Joe Shane. He's having a great draft. 1364 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:23,440 Speaker 13: I mean, not reaching for a quarterback. That's awesome. I mean, 1365 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 13: you love to see it. He got a great value 1366 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:29,360 Speaker 13: with neighbors, and now we got Daniel Jones the number one. 1367 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,240 Speaker 13: I'm gonna be honest, I'm not one hundred percent sold 1368 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,920 Speaker 13: on Daniel Jones, but I'm fair to say that he 1369 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:39,080 Speaker 13: hasn't really had this. I think this is probably gonna 1370 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,120 Speaker 13: be his most optimistic going into a season, which is 1371 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 13: unfortunately he's coming off to a cl but I think 1372 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,040 Speaker 13: he'll be okay. I mean, in ACL nowadays isn't what 1373 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 13: it used to be. 1374 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 2: I think this is definitely, as we stand here today, 1375 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,240 Speaker 2: the best supporting cast Daniel Jones will have had in 1376 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 2: his career with the Giants, and quite frankly, it's not close. 1377 01:00:58,600 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, yeah, correct. 1378 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 3: I mean I'd like to see a little more production 1379 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 3: or explosiveness out of the running back room, because taking 1380 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,200 Speaker 3: a step back, I will trade that for more explosiveness 1381 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:09,960 Speaker 3: out of the wide receiver. 1382 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 1: That's fair, that's fair, one hundred percent. 1383 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,320 Speaker 13: We're on the same point there. And the other thing 1384 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:15,800 Speaker 13: I was just going to say, is that, like I 1385 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,720 Speaker 13: was even having this argument because if you guys heard 1386 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 13: on from Texas, so I got nothing but Cowboys fan, 1387 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,840 Speaker 13: So I was, I was, I was letting them know, 1388 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,240 Speaker 13: Like I mean, if you really stop and think about it. 1389 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:27,760 Speaker 13: I'm not sure if you guys have thought about this, 1390 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,160 Speaker 13: but Malik Neighbors might be the best player that Daniel 1391 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 13: Jones has ever thrown the football to. Like if you 1392 01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,320 Speaker 13: think back all the way to do oh. 1393 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 1: No no, no no no no, no time out, time out there. 1394 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 1: There ain't no mte about it, dude. 1395 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,040 Speaker 2: Like there like he is like and it's not Frankly, 1396 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 2: I'll use the expression again. It's I know he hasn't 1397 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:46,560 Speaker 2: taken a snap in the NFL yet. 1398 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,880 Speaker 1: Skill set wise, he's the most talented wide receiver Daniel 1399 01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 1: Jones has been around there. That's not even skill set wise. 1400 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,960 Speaker 13: Yes, I saw this thing and not to kind of 1401 01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 13: like just say what we already know about Malik Neighbors, right, 1402 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,760 Speaker 13: but I saw this video that showed his measurables side 1403 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,440 Speaker 13: by side with Jamar Chase and they're like almost identical, 1404 01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,600 Speaker 13: right Yeah, And obviously it still was between the Ears 1405 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,120 Speaker 13: and the kids gotta put it on the field and everything. 1406 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 13: But like like like, like we said, it's not even close. 1407 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,280 Speaker 13: He's the best guy. And even before this, I mean 1408 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,440 Speaker 13: no disrespect to the guys who's gone out there and 1409 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,440 Speaker 13: played for us, but I mean Daniel Jones has been 1410 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:27,000 Speaker 13: up there in some nice statistics like deep deep pass 1411 01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 13: completion rate I think is what it was. His deep 1412 01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,160 Speaker 13: ball has always been nice. 1413 01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,120 Speaker 2: It was it was deep ball accuracy two years ago 1414 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 2: that was very high. Yes, right again, not enough of them, 1415 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,840 Speaker 2: you want more of them. But the actors a couple 1416 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,480 Speaker 2: of years ago was was was excellent exactly. 1417 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,720 Speaker 13: And one thing that I've always seen with Daniel Jones 1418 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,600 Speaker 13: is that one thing you always see people say is 1419 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,640 Speaker 13: like the fumbles, the fumbles, hey, and in crucial situations 1420 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:55,000 Speaker 13: he fumbles. But besides that Seahawks game last year where 1421 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,640 Speaker 13: he threw that pick six, you don't see that a 1422 01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:58,439 Speaker 13: lot from Danie Jones. 1423 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 3: Two years He don't has been dramatic. 1424 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:04,840 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, you just need more overall production now is 1425 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:05,920 Speaker 1: what you need exactly. 1426 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,640 Speaker 13: It's hard to be consistent when you don't have consistency 1427 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 13: around you. 1428 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 10: So like if he kind of goes into this year, 1429 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,600 Speaker 10: has some nice consistency I know it's hard. 1430 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,400 Speaker 13: Because they got that whole decision of Hey, they got 1431 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,520 Speaker 13: to make that decision. Now, are they going to cut 1432 01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:19,960 Speaker 13: him after this year or are they going to stick 1433 01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,000 Speaker 13: with him the four years. I know that's that's a 1434 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 13: tough choice that. I mean, Daniel Jones is going to 1435 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:25,880 Speaker 13: have to put a lot on the field. I would say, 1436 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,640 Speaker 13: if he does what he did in twenty twenty two, 1437 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,160 Speaker 13: that's probably not gonna be enough in my opinion. But 1438 01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,280 Speaker 13: I mean, who am I to say, right, I'm not sure. 1439 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 13: I just think generally speaking, but if he shows like 1440 01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,200 Speaker 13: I mean, I say, goes out there, has a nice 1441 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,160 Speaker 13: season ten plus wins, I think he's got to hit 1442 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 13: ten plus wins in my opinion, just because I mean, 1443 01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,240 Speaker 13: I know the number specifically doesn't matter, but I think 1444 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:45,800 Speaker 13: it'll just looks nicer next to his name. 1445 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:49,080 Speaker 2: Hey, look sounds This is not the most important season 1446 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,800 Speaker 2: of Daniel Jones' career. That was two years ago, the 1447 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:53,600 Speaker 2: year before he got a contract because he. 1448 01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:54,960 Speaker 1: Was going to be a fat Yeah. 1449 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:59,560 Speaker 2: But this is the second most important season of Daniel Jones' career, mostly. 1450 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:00,840 Speaker 1: Because he is a showed the team that he can 1451 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,560 Speaker 1: stay healthy for a full years that's a big part 1452 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,760 Speaker 1: of it too. Oh my gosh, did they really? 1453 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,360 Speaker 13: I guess we can rephrase it. We can rephrase it 1454 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,800 Speaker 13: to this is the most important season in Daniel jones 1455 01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,520 Speaker 13: Giants career. Let's let's put it that way. 1456 01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,360 Speaker 10: I would say, because obviously. 1457 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,040 Speaker 13: For his personal gain, I mean, he got his money, 1458 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:21,000 Speaker 13: obviously well deserved. He's still a good quarterback in the NFL. 1459 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,040 Speaker 13: I feel like Daniel Jones is a guy who can 1460 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,160 Speaker 13: benefit from a fresh start personally. I mean, don't get 1461 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:26,560 Speaker 13: me wrong, I would love for him to succeed with 1462 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 13: the Giants, but even if it doesn't work out, I 1463 01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,040 Speaker 13: think a fresh start would be great for him anywhere 1464 01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,560 Speaker 13: else you were to go. I think, honestly, Daniel Jones 1465 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,080 Speaker 13: would succeed if you were to leave the Giants after 1466 01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,680 Speaker 13: unfortunate circumstances. But I mean, I'm kind of training off. 1467 01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:42,520 Speaker 13: I'm sorry, guys, but playing the call to give Joe 1468 01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,080 Speaker 13: Shane his props, because, like we said, he got Molak neighbors, 1469 01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,080 Speaker 13: which was a nice trick. Everybody knows about that one. 1470 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:51,200 Speaker 13: He got us a starting safety after everyone bagged them 1471 01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:52,919 Speaker 13: and bagged them and bagged them for Lettin x Xavier 1472 01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,120 Speaker 13: McKinney walk, which I agreed with. You don't pay that 1473 01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,760 Speaker 13: position premium money. We're on the same page there and 1474 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,200 Speaker 13: the corner, I mean, the corner is solid. I know 1475 01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,120 Speaker 13: everyone's going crazy that he doesn't have any picks, but 1476 01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,560 Speaker 13: I think I heard deonce once that when you don't 1477 01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:09,919 Speaker 13: have a lot of picks, I means they're not throwing 1478 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,040 Speaker 13: to you a lot. So I mean I'll take it. 1479 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,440 Speaker 13: I think I'll take it. Just one on ones look nice, 1480 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,560 Speaker 13: and today we got the tight end with nice security. 1481 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,520 Speaker 13: Am I mistaken that he was rated tight end two 1482 01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,640 Speaker 13: after Bowers or is that accurate? 1483 01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 1: It depends on what board you look at. Most people 1484 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,640 Speaker 1: had Jatavian Sanders as the second tight end, but he 1485 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:30,640 Speaker 1: was definitely in that next pert. 1486 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,600 Speaker 3: To simplify picks three and four, and I think John 1487 01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,320 Speaker 3: will agree with me on this, Picks three and four 1488 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:40,080 Speaker 3: were more trades picks. Both of those guys have good 1489 01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:44,640 Speaker 3: athletic traits that should show upside once they get here, 1490 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,840 Speaker 3: and if you believe in your coaching staff to bring 1491 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:51,120 Speaker 3: out more in these guys, they should have the tools. 1492 01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:51,800 Speaker 1: That will allow you to do it. 1493 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,760 Speaker 2: I think fil Johnson was probably more of a trades 1494 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,760 Speaker 2: pick than Phillips. You know Phillips only he ran the 1495 01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,240 Speaker 2: high four fours and he's not super long, he's not 1496 01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:03,160 Speaker 2: super tall, so he doesn't check every trades box, but 1497 01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:04,479 Speaker 2: he certainly can. 1498 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,240 Speaker 1: I think he's a versatile cornerback that can do multiple things. 1499 01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,840 Speaker 3: Only played two years as a starter at Kentucky, so 1500 01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:11,720 Speaker 3: there should be more ups at him, is what I'm saying. 1501 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,320 Speaker 13: What you're saying, Yeah, yeah, for sure, one hundred percent. 1502 01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,400 Speaker 13: You're spot on it. And it's like it's like even 1503 01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,560 Speaker 13: the other pick with neighbors, going back to neighbors real quick, 1504 01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:20,560 Speaker 13: Like it's not even just about what neighbors. We spoke 1505 01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,760 Speaker 13: on what he does for Daniel Jones, but I mean 1506 01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:26,200 Speaker 13: what he does for Jalen Hyatt and Wanda Robinson underneath, 1507 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,880 Speaker 13: Like Rondo, Robinson really hasn't been able to, I feel, 1508 01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,680 Speaker 13: thrive as the true slot. 1509 01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:33,160 Speaker 10: Receiver that he is. 1510 01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:35,720 Speaker 13: I think if he can have a full season where 1511 01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,760 Speaker 13: he has someone taking that double team outside. I know 1512 01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:42,200 Speaker 13: obviously Saquan's not there, but I think, like like you said, 1513 01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,480 Speaker 13: we'd rather have that explosive option outside that he can 1514 01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,240 Speaker 13: take the top off. And I mean Wanda can do 1515 01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,160 Speaker 13: what he does underneath, and he's very good sometimes. I 1516 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:55,920 Speaker 13: mean that's not even Hyatt hasn't even really become the 1517 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,479 Speaker 13: player that he can beat. So I mean it's really 1518 01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,280 Speaker 13: I feel like it's a nice move for overall offense. 1519 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,720 Speaker 13: And then going back to what everyone else wants, because 1520 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,400 Speaker 13: we all know why everyone was complaining. Everyone wanted Joe 1521 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,600 Speaker 13: Shane to reach for a quarterback. That's what everyone wanted. 1522 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,600 Speaker 13: But what's the point of getting a quarterback if you 1523 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,400 Speaker 13: wouldn't have had a good offense. Let's say, worst case scenario, 1524 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,560 Speaker 13: Dan Jones doesn't work out. At least Joe Shane is 1525 01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:19,880 Speaker 13: building a nice landing spot for whoever does end up. 1526 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,760 Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, Aaron, great stuff. Appreciate the call. You You 1527 01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:27,880 Speaker 2: can never go wrong with building a good roster with exactly. 1528 01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,080 Speaker 3: Right, exactly true. 1529 01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,640 Speaker 2: And by the way, I'm just gonna throw out two 1530 01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,320 Speaker 2: laurels here to other teams. Yeah, that understand their identity 1531 01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 2: and are playing into it nicely. The Dolphins just got 1532 01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,000 Speaker 2: jayl And right out of Tennessee the four three eight 1533 01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,160 Speaker 2: running back. So now there you thinking of him or 1534 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,320 Speaker 2: dem On a chain on the field for every snap? Yes, 1535 01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,919 Speaker 2: I mean, could that fit better with what we're trying 1536 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:49,800 Speaker 2: to do really good. Then I also want to fill 1537 01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,640 Speaker 2: some laurels with the Pittsburgh Steelers. I was just gonna say, 1538 01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,320 Speaker 2: who in let make sure I have the players right. Yeah, 1539 01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:58,360 Speaker 2: In the first round they draft Troy Fatanu at of Washington. 1540 01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,160 Speaker 2: We know what a good player, guard, tackle, take your 1541 01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,520 Speaker 2: pick with trenches. They picked Zach Frazier, center out of 1542 01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,320 Speaker 2: West Front round two, who is going to be a 1543 01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:11,200 Speaker 2: starting tight end, former starting tenant, starting center, former wrestler, 1544 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,200 Speaker 2: really good player. And then they picked one of my 1545 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,880 Speaker 2: personal favorites year in a round four, Mason McCormick, who's 1546 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:22,599 Speaker 2: another just trench rating, powerful guard. So they might have 1547 01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,519 Speaker 2: gotten three offensive line starters in the first four might 1548 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,960 Speaker 2: have draft. And you know the Steelers want to play 1549 01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,200 Speaker 2: into being a physical running team. Well they just played 1550 01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,879 Speaker 2: into that big time with their draft picks over the last. 1551 01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:36,160 Speaker 1: Couple of days. 1552 01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,320 Speaker 3: But cormick got us South Dakota State. One of those 1553 01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:43,120 Speaker 3: guys will will get knocked for the competition level that 1554 01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:46,960 Speaker 3: he played against. But again, if you love the trades, 1555 01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:49,320 Speaker 3: you believe you're going to be able to coach out 1556 01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,920 Speaker 3: the best in him, even against the higher level cops. 1557 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,920 Speaker 3: So you know, that. That's a risky pick to some. 1558 01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,600 Speaker 3: But if you like the trades man, you got to 1559 01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:59,479 Speaker 3: really be happy getting him what you did with your 1560 01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:00,160 Speaker 3: f you other steel. 1561 01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,559 Speaker 1: The first punter, I missed it. 1562 01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,479 Speaker 2: Just now the Bears at one twenty two, Tory Taylor 1563 01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:06,200 Speaker 2: out of Iowa. 1564 01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:10,719 Speaker 1: Wow, look out, first we stayed off for the first specialist, Paul. 1565 01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,240 Speaker 1: We've got one player from every position now off the board. 1566 01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:18,360 Speaker 1: It's very exciting. No kickers yet, Hunters and kickers into 1567 01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:19,120 Speaker 1: one category. 1568 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:19,479 Speaker 3: Taylor. 1569 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,400 Speaker 1: No one's got to rain on my parade that weekness, 1570 01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:22,400 Speaker 1: it's all right killing me. 1571 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 3: Interesting number about Taylor right over forty six yard average 1572 01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,799 Speaker 3: at Iowa. Forty three percent of his punts were inside 1573 01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:29,160 Speaker 3: the twenty. 1574 01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,360 Speaker 1: Gotta be honest with you, I did not scout any 1575 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:32,479 Speaker 1: of the punters or kickers. 1576 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:36,160 Speaker 3: I simply I didn't look at them video wise. I 1577 01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,320 Speaker 3: did write down certain stats though, for certain of them, 1578 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,280 Speaker 3: because I thought there was a possibility that they might 1579 01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:40,680 Speaker 3: go No. 1580 01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:44,639 Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I just I did not decide to use 1581 01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,160 Speaker 1: my time that way, which is fine. 1582 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:50,719 Speaker 3: Yep, Paula, Can I give you one sleeper? Yes, Giants fans, 1583 01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:59,440 Speaker 3: my absolute total sleeper sleeper, deep deep sleeper, Isaac Garndo. 1584 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:02,759 Speaker 1: Keep the name in mind. 1585 01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,719 Speaker 3: He may wind up being an undrafted rookie free agent. 1586 01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,840 Speaker 1: He get picked with those numbers at the combine four 1587 01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:10,800 Speaker 1: three three into forty. He's getting picked. 1588 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:15,920 Speaker 3: Six feet tall, two hundred and twenty pounds powerback. Did 1589 01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,679 Speaker 3: not play much at Wisconsin, was buried on the depth chart. 1590 01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:22,280 Speaker 3: Transferred to Illinois, played some last year. 1591 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,599 Speaker 1: He is green, he is raw, he. 1592 01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:30,760 Speaker 3: Is inexperienced, hasn't had a lot of work. But the 1593 01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,040 Speaker 3: traits are off the charts. If you want a big 1594 01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:38,640 Speaker 3: thumper of a running back, Isaac Garndo deep sleeper for me, 1595 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:40,920 Speaker 3: We'll see that's it. 1596 01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I have a 1597 01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,960 Speaker 1: deep sleeper for you. You want a receiving running back 1598 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,600 Speaker 1: and Dylan Loud out of New Hampshire. You want a 1599 01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,479 Speaker 1: receiver that can play the position a little bit. He's 1600 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:55,080 Speaker 1: a guy. I want a thumper. So okay, I don't 1601 01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,639 Speaker 1: have a thumper. I have Dylan Lobb. Thank you very much, 1602 01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,439 Speaker 1: you're welcome. Yeah. 1603 01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:03,559 Speaker 2: Look, guys, there stole a lot of good players on 1604 01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,600 Speaker 2: the board. Kate Stover tight end from ohiouse they just 1605 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,840 Speaker 2: went and Paul. The tight ends are almost wiped out. 1606 01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,840 Speaker 2: We talked about, yeah, why you would pick a tight 1607 01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:11,360 Speaker 2: end in this round instead of a running back. We've 1608 01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:13,599 Speaker 2: only had one running back taken Jay when Wright and 1609 01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,560 Speaker 2: the tight ends except for Tanner McLachlan. 1610 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:18,800 Speaker 1: Did Jared Wiley get picked? I don't think so. No, 1611 01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 1: not Yeah. 1612 01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,040 Speaker 2: So Wiley and McLachlan are getting close though, but we 1613 01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:22,960 Speaker 2: discussed that. 1614 01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,280 Speaker 1: I'm surprised Eric All went ahead of Wiley. 1615 01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, me too with you, but that was a predicament 1616 01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,840 Speaker 3: and enigma that we were trying to solve. Do you 1617 01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,240 Speaker 3: grab the tight end here do they go? Or do 1618 01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,760 Speaker 3: you grab the big power back here do they go? 1619 01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,360 Speaker 3: Giants decided tight end. It looks like they made a 1620 01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:41,720 Speaker 3: good move. They did, Paul, excellent job. The last couple 1621 01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:43,800 Speaker 3: of days make a lot of fun. Guys, Thank you again. 1622 01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:45,600 Speaker 2: I can't tell you the fans how gratefully off of 1623 01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:47,320 Speaker 2: you for being with us and hanging with us and 1624 01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,640 Speaker 2: calling in and just making these shows awesome. This is 1625 01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,680 Speaker 2: my favorite three days of shows that we have all 1626 01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,479 Speaker 2: year long. H Just remember and we'll talk about it 1627 01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,559 Speaker 2: more this week. These are the three most important days 1628 01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,559 Speaker 2: of any NFL offseason. It's more important than it's sexy, 1629 01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,120 Speaker 2: and it's you know, less flashy than free agency and 1630 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:06,080 Speaker 2: less exciting for a lot of people. But it's the 1631 01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:09,320 Speaker 2: most important thing because if you draft well, you build 1632 01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,760 Speaker 2: a cheap foundation of your team, and then you don't 1633 01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:13,400 Speaker 2: have to use. 1634 01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:14,679 Speaker 1: Free agent money on other players. 1635 01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:18,120 Speaker 2: You use players you draft, you get compicks for those players, 1636 01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,640 Speaker 2: and you just keep rebuilding yourself all all over and 1637 01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,400 Speaker 2: over again. Look at how consistent the Eagles and the 1638 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,400 Speaker 2: Cowboys have been over the past five or six years 1639 01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:30,479 Speaker 2: being a good football team. It's because they draft well, 1640 01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,400 Speaker 2: they re sign their own guys, they lose some other 1641 01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:35,639 Speaker 2: guys in free agency, they get compicks, then they turn 1642 01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,920 Speaker 2: those compics into more players, and the cycle just keeps 1643 01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:41,600 Speaker 2: repeating itself. So it's so important to build your foundation. 1644 01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:42,080 Speaker 1: Through the draft. 1645 01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:45,160 Speaker 2: It really is what makes franchises great. You know, we 1646 01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,240 Speaker 2: talked about the Ravens how they always draft well. 1647 01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,880 Speaker 1: All these good teams draft well. 1648 01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:55,080 Speaker 2: If you don't draft well, eventually the cycle ends and 1649 01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:56,240 Speaker 2: you hit down spots. 1650 01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,400 Speaker 3: I'd even go as far as say the Steelers throw 1651 01:12:58,439 --> 01:12:59,000 Speaker 3: them in there too. 1652 01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:01,320 Speaker 1: Under stand their identity they do. 1653 01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,639 Speaker 3: They know what they want, and they're consistent, and they 1654 01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:05,519 Speaker 3: just keep turning the. 1655 01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:06,080 Speaker 1: Wheel, Paul. 1656 01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,479 Speaker 2: The forty nine ers best skill position players are Deebo, 1657 01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,680 Speaker 2: Samuel Brandon, Aiyuk and Brock Party. They're all drafted. Was 1658 01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,120 Speaker 2: in the first round, another was Day two. Party we 1659 01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:17,040 Speaker 2: all know was a Day three pick. George Kittle was 1660 01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:17,760 Speaker 2: a Day three pick. 1661 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:18,640 Speaker 1: And tell me about it. 1662 01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:24,400 Speaker 2: Just go down the list the teams their safety who Hufanga? 1663 01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:26,559 Speaker 2: He was a Day three pick? Right, I don't think 1664 01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:27,599 Speaker 2: he was in a Day two pick. 1665 01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:28,840 Speaker 1: So these are. 1666 01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:30,800 Speaker 3: Trade for McCaffrey. But you know what I give, you. 1667 01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,800 Speaker 2: Can then supplement right, right. But the basis of what 1668 01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:38,160 Speaker 2: you do and drafting will allows you to make trades 1669 01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:39,880 Speaker 2: like that. Do you know why the Niners could trade 1670 01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,240 Speaker 2: for Christian McCaffrey. They had a bunch of awesome players 1671 01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,479 Speaker 2: on rookie contracts they weren't paying. That's how you're able 1672 01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,360 Speaker 2: to trade for a guy like Christian McCaffrey. So, and 1673 01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:49,720 Speaker 2: that's why the Giants are able to trade for a 1674 01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,479 Speaker 2: guy like Brian Burds. They are starting to have a 1675 01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:53,559 Speaker 2: really young roster here. 1676 01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,240 Speaker 1: We'll see if these drafts develop into those types of players, 1677 01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:59,080 Speaker 1: but they have to if the Giants want to become 1678 01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:00,200 Speaker 1: a premial playoff. 1679 01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,040 Speaker 2: Team like some of these other teams in the NFL. 1680 01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,160 Speaker 2: For Paul Tatino on John Schmelk. We'll be back with 1681 01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,960 Speaker 2: Big Book kick Off Live on Monday as a recap 1682 01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:10,120 Speaker 2: the draft, and then every day twelve thirty Big Boo 1683 01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,040 Speaker 2: kick Off Live. Make sure you tune in for pol Tatino. 1684 01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,040 Speaker 2: Thank you to Shonahara for joining us last night. 1685 01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,160 Speaker 1: Again. Thank you to the callers out there, We'll see 1686 01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:16,599 Speaker 1: you next time. 1687 01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,240 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us for the Giants Draft Show presented 1688 01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:20,040 Speaker 2: by Kreshtron