1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing, and we are gonna talk about 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: the Ravens undrafted rookie class because we know, Garrett, that 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: you make all these draft picks and as soon as 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: that ends, are fans they're so rabid, they are just 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: so into it that they're immediately locked into all right, 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: who are the undrafted players that. 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 2: The Ravens are drafting? 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: And it makes sense, right, The Ravens have a rich 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: history of undrafted rookie free agents hitting big and so 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: you never know who the next gem will be and 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: fans are always interested in that. 13 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: So we're gonna give you our most. 14 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: Likely candidates to compete for a spot on the fifty 15 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: three men roster. 16 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 3: It's always funny. 17 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 4: I wonder something I've always kind of been curious about 18 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 4: is whether every team has the same level of interest 19 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 4: from a fan base standpoint, yeah in undrafted players or 20 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 4: is it just the fact that the Raves have had 21 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 4: such a great history when it comes to these undrafts 22 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 4: free agents that answer like who's the next diamond of 23 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 4: the ring? I don't know which it is. If every 24 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 4: team is having the same conversation. But there is always 25 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 4: so much interest around the undrafted prospects. 26 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: There's just something alluring about finding that that diamond in 27 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: the rough or or finding that late round steal that 28 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: like Ravens fans just they they live for it. And 29 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: so we get more questions during training camp and OTAs 30 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: and whatnot about which undrafted guy is standing out than 31 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: like how the rookie. 32 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: Draft picks are doing. 33 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 4: It's like how's Malachi Sarks? Like that's the second biggest question. 34 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 4: This is the biggest question, is like which we're. 35 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: Literally not even so so anyway, all right, let's dive 36 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: into it, Garrett. Well, actually, before before you do that, 37 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: we should say that. And I think that it's going 38 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: to be tough for an undrafted rookie this year to 39 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: crack the fifty three man roster because you have so 40 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: many draft picks. 41 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: You have eleven guys. 42 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it might be tough for all eleven draft picks, yeh, 43 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: to make the fifty three man roster. And when you 44 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: step back and take a look at the roster already, 45 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: it's pretty well defined even before the draft started, and 46 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: so I don't know that there's a lot of spots 47 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: up for grabs. With that said, it's never impossible. You 48 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: never rule that out. Somebody could. Hey, an undrafted guy 49 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: could beat out one of those six round draft picks. Right, 50 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: it's a sixth round pick. You're not guaranteed a roster 51 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: spot on the fifty three. And also those practice squad 52 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: spots are really competitive to get a spot on the 53 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: peace squads. So I'll prefasit with that that of all years, 54 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: I think this might be a tougher one to make 55 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: the roster. 56 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: I agree with that. 57 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 4: I think that will be a challenging road for any 58 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 4: of these guys to make the fifty three, in particular, 59 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 4: just considering the roster composition and the fact that there's 60 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 4: eleven draft picks. However, if we were having this conversation 61 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 4: a year ago after the draft, I think we would 62 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 4: have been saying similar things and that, like it's just 63 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 4: hard in general for undrafted guys to make the roster, 64 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 4: and but that's part of what makes this game so fun, 65 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 4: Like that's part of what the conversation is so So 66 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 4: that's part of why this conversation is so interesting. Because 67 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 4: none of these guys it's always always the Cinderella story. 68 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 4: This is always the team in the bracket that surprises everybody, 69 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 4: and it's the upset especially that everybody misses, Like that's 70 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 4: part of what makes this so interesting. And so like 71 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 4: even last year, you know, the Ravens had Bo Braid 72 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 4: who ended up making the fifty three manter roster of 73 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 4: the safety local safety from Maryland out a training camp. 74 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 4: It was him and Soonoosi came. He both ended up 75 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 4: making the team. And so I think that, like when 76 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 4: we were looking at it a year ago, was like 77 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 4: it might be one of those two guys, it ends 78 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 4: up being both of them. 79 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 3: So sometimes that can happen. 80 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: Well, I go back to the twenty twenty two draft class, 81 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: which also had eleven draft picks, and I just pulled 82 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: up the undrafted free agent class from that year, and 83 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember, did Josh Ross he made a team, 84 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: made the fifty three, So there you go. That was 85 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: eleven picks. We probably were having a very similar conversation. Yeah, 86 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: and so it can be done. And even players from 87 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: that undrafted Jeremiah Mune was in that class. I mean, 88 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: he ended up playing here in Baltimore and now he's 89 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: been still the Steelers for a couple of years and 90 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: so it's certainly not impossible. So all right with that 91 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: all said Garrett, who to you stands out as, all right, 92 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: this guy's got a chance. 93 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 4: I go to the area where the Ravens from a 94 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 4: roster standpoint, probably need to still add, and that's the 95 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 4: defensive line. And I look at Jason Jones out of 96 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 4: Auburn six six three and twenty five pounds. When we 97 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 4: sat down with Eric for the podcast, the one point 98 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 4: that he highlighted is like, the area that we didn't 99 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 4: really have a chance to add during the draft was 100 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 4: the big body defensive raven That's the spot Michael Pierce retired. 101 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 4: The Ravens are a little bit thin in terms of 102 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 4: having that space eater on their defensive line who can 103 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,559 Speaker 4: gobble up blocks, really be a force in the running 104 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 4: game and allow the guys behind them to go and 105 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 4: make tackles. 106 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 3: That's what Jason Jones is. 107 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 4: Again, He's a big body guy who has this track 108 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 4: recorder of like he's not going to go and get 109 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 4: the quarterback for five sacks a season, but he I mean, 110 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 4: he had one and a half sacks in his three 111 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:04,239 Speaker 4: college season. 112 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: See, I don't think you're looking for a sack ard. 113 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 3: He's not a sack ard. 114 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: You're looking for a block eater, run stuffing guy, but 115 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: that's what they already drafted. 116 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: A niis Peebles. 117 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: If you're looking for defensive line pressure and sacks as people, 118 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: that's Peoples. 119 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 4: But like, if you're looking for a guy who can 120 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 4: potentially stuff the run, that's Jason Jones. And and he's 121 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 4: a big time prospect him. He played three years at Oregon, 122 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 4: probably one season at Oregon and then three at Auburn. 123 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 4: So like he's played at big time college programs and 124 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 4: now he comes here to Baltimore, and I think he's 125 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 4: got he's got a legitimate chance. And the Ravens have 126 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 4: had actually a track record of guys. Uh, look at 127 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 4: Michael Pierce. Like Michael Pierce was a guy who came 128 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,679 Speaker 4: in and earned his spot as an undrafted rookie, played 129 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 4: really well in the training camp, and then of course 130 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 4: had a great preseason where he earned his way onto 131 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 4: the team. With the way he played in the preseason, 132 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 4: that could be a similar situation for Jones. If he's 133 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 4: gonna make the team, he's gonna have to make a 134 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 4: splash in the preseason. 135 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll stick with the defensive line. And here's another 136 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: interesting guy. And now he was on a tryout oring 137 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: rookie mini camp, So we'll see if he signs a contract. Yeah, 138 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: but nose tackle Nash Hutmaker of Nebraska is a really 139 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: interesting prospect. I mean, this is a got All Big 140 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: Ten Honorable mention both his junior and senior years. He 141 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: was a two year starter, had sixty four tackles twelve 142 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: tackles for loss in six and a half sacks over 143 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: these two years, so production, you know, and can get 144 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: after you a little bit for a nose tackle especially, 145 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: But really the most interesting thing about him is he's 146 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: one of the best wrestlers in South Dakota history. Yeah, 147 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: I mean the guy finished his high school career with 148 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: seventy three straight pins. He didn't lose a match between 149 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: his freshman and senior seasons. 150 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 4: We got a if he ends up, like you mentioned, 151 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 4: he was on a tryout basis, So if he ends 152 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 4: up getting signed to the ninety man roster for the 153 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 4: rest of the offseason and into training camp, there's gonna 154 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 4: be some battles between him and Tyler Linderbaum, who also. 155 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: Was a state jam he was was he a stage 156 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: think he was a state but he was a great wrestler, 157 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: great wrestler in Iowa. 158 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: So those two guys are gonna have some battles in 159 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: camp yep. 160 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: Nash was a four time state wrestling champion in South Dakota. 161 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: He actually after the twenty twenty three football season, dropped 162 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: forty five pounds and joined the Mascot wrestling team and 163 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: he qualified for the NCAA Wrestling Championships. 164 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so nickname is. 165 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 3: The Polar Bear. I love about this guy. 166 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: I love everything about it. 167 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: He is a football player. 168 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 4: You mentioned all his wrestling and I started with the 169 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 4: football stats. 170 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: I started that, but like you know, I mean, the 171 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: Ravens have a track record with these guys with the 172 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: wrestling backgrounds. You know, the leverage, the strength, the just 173 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: the body control that it takes, like it it legitimately 174 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: is a really good tool for these defensive linemen to have. 175 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: And uh, you know Kelly Greg That's who I My 176 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: mind immediately goes back to Kelly Greg. Just I mean 177 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: a buddy guy I think was the nickname I'm trying 178 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: to remember. And uh, an all timer, you know, just 179 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: Ravens like likable dude and he was a wrestler, a 180 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: big time wrestler and even wrestles some guys in the 181 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: locker room. 182 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: I remember footage of that. 183 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: So could Nash, you know, hopefully become that kind of 184 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: you know, underdog story, it'd be cool. 185 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 4: They're just gonna have to clear out the lockers, put 186 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 4: a big wrestling mat in there. It's Nash for slender Bomb. 187 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: That the epic content. You're the social media guy. 188 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 4: We'll got lots to see if they be down for 189 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 4: that to put the wrestling in the locker room and 190 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 4: everybody gets after it. 191 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: Well, and we had our guy Reichsteiner. That's a different, 192 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: different kind of wrestling. That dude, My friend is a 193 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: big w w guy. Reich Steiner's like becoming one of 194 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: the guys. Yeah. 195 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 4: So if people are have no idea what Ryan's talking 196 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 4: about right now, a few years ago, we had a 197 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 4: player came in as a fullback, undrafted player, Bronson Reichsteiner, 198 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 4: and he is now if you're a WWE wrestling fan, 199 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 4: he is now one of the rising stars in wrestling. 200 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 4: He goes by Braun the Breaker, and we actually did 201 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 4: a podcast with him back when he came here and 202 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 4: talked about his wrestling background. His dad was a big 203 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 4: wrestling w W so yeah, Steiner, it's uh, yeah, he was. 204 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 4: It's kind of cool to see his development. But yeah, 205 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 4: different type of wrestling. 206 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: Different type of wrestling. 207 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna but I think he started in like traditional stuff, right, 208 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: you don't start with breaking chairs. 209 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: That's the first thing when you're in fourth grade. Well, 210 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 3: when your dad's in wrestling, maybe. 211 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: Coming off the top route anyway, I digress. Maybe that's 212 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: the future for Nash. 213 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: But first he's got to play some football here in Baltimore, 214 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: so it'll be interesting to see if he makes the 215 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: make or gets a contract as one of the undrafted Roya. 216 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 4: Honestly, a lot of times, like just so listeners know, 217 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 4: rookie mini camp happens, and this is a chance. You 218 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 4: get everybody on camp and you see how they look, 219 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 4: get an early taste of the playbook, just make sure 220 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 4: everybody can line up in the right place, like all 221 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 4: those kind of fundamental things. But there's also a bunch 222 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 4: of guys who are here who weren't drafted, who weren't 223 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 4: even actually signed, but are here on a tryout basis. 224 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 4: And then after mini camp, the front office coaches they 225 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 4: get together and decide, okay, or any of these guys 226 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 4: who were here for tryouts, could they come and join 227 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 4: the team for the rest of the offseason, Like let's 228 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 4: adjust this ninety man roster a little bit. And even 229 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 4: some guys like, hey, maybe there's not a spot right now, 230 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 4: but they get signed early in training camp if they 231 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 4: feel like there's a need at one of these positions. 232 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 4: So well, there usually is some movement after rookie mini camp, 233 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 4: and we'll see if there is any this year. 234 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: All right. 235 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 4: A guy that I'll point to as a potential option 236 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 4: is Jay Higgins and inside linebacker out of Iowa. 237 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 3: Two year starter. 238 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 4: He was kind of a leader of that Iowa defense 239 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 4: or evens have a good track record of taking guys 240 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 4: from Iowa two hundred and ninety five tackles over the 241 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 4: last two seasons, six foot two for most in college footy, 242 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 4: most of college football. I mean, tackling machine, almost three 243 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 4: hundred tackles the last two years. The guy is just 244 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 4: a tackling machine, six foot two hundred, twenty five pounds, 245 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 4: And so he's just a guy that, like was a 246 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 4: leader of the Iowa defense. Is a guy who can 247 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 4: make a ton of tackles in the middle of the field. 248 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 4: Of course, with that type of background, he would factor 249 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 4: in on special teams if he were to make the roster. 250 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 4: That's how he would find his way onto the team, honestly, 251 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 4: is from a special team standpoint. The thing that's working 252 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 4: against him, and this is the case for a lot 253 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 4: of the players that we're talking about, is just is 254 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 4: the spot there. The Ravens have, of course ro qwand Smith, 255 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 4: Trent and Simpson. They drafted Teddy Buchanan, they signed from 256 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 4: the Rams Jake Hummel, So like they have four linebackers there, 257 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 4: Humble and Buchanan and Simpson all could be special teams 258 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 4: players as well. So like the opportunity is. 259 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you keep five inside lineback a little bit 260 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: limited there, that's the question. 261 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: Do you keep five inside linebackers? Basically right? 262 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: And that's always one of those ones where it's like 263 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: do you keep another an extra offensive lineman or do 264 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: you have five inside linebackers? Or you know, how many 265 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: dbs are you keeping on the fifty three. But I 266 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: think he'll push and push for a spot. I mean, 267 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: he's a unanimous All American first team All Big Ten. 268 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: He's a Big ten linebacker. The year, you know, I 269 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: mean Dame Brugler of the Athletic friend of Lounch projected 270 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,599 Speaker 1: Higgins's six or seventh round pick. So you know, I 271 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: think this was one of the bigger names and most 272 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: accomplished guys that the Ravens landed in their undrafted class. 273 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: The size, you know, six foot two, twenty five, you know, 274 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: he doesn't have He's not a big guy. That's probably 275 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: why he went undrafted despite all of his accomplishments. 276 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 4: But measurables, like from a size an athletic testing standpoint, 277 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 4: are not off the charts. 278 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: But the production. 279 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he's the only player from a major conference 280 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: with at least one hundred tackles and four interceptions last year. 281 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 3: So production, well the other thing too. 282 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 4: And when you talk about history, the Ravens from an 283 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 4: undrafted rookie standpoint, have a great track record of finding 284 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 4: linebackers like. 285 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: That goes back to exact years and years and years, 286 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: and so it's like whenever these classes come out, I 287 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: always circle the inside. 288 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 4: That's always like when Linebackerho's like, all right, he's going 289 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 4: to be in the conversation. 290 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: Well, when your defensive coordinator is a former undrafted inside linebacker. 291 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: You know that helps. 292 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 4: I mean just Zach of course, was an undrafted rookie linebacker. 293 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 4: Bart Scott was an undrafted linebacker. Chris Board was an 294 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 4: undrafted linebacker. Here al Albert mcletch, we could keep going. 295 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 4: Josh Ross you just mentioned has like made the team 296 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 4: that nobody expected that a couple of years ago. So like, 297 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 4: there is definitely a rich history of. 298 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: Insideline backs are missing guys. Yeah, we definitely are. 299 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 4: We like those ones just jump off, jump out to me, 300 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 4: and so I think that they I think that he's 301 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 4: got a chance, even though at this point the numbers 302 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 4: are stacked against him a little bit. 303 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 1: Yep. Another interesting name is guard Jared Penning, and that 304 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: last name might ring a bell in Ravens fans' minds 305 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: because his older brother, Trevor Penning, was a player that 306 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: I know a lot of Ravens fans really wanted to 307 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: come to Baltimore here a few years ago. He was 308 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty two draft class and he was 309 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: a first round pick of the New Orleans Saints. 310 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 2: Trevor Penning was at tackle. 311 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: Jared is more of a guard six' five, three, nineteen you, 312 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: know wasn't quite as accomplished as his older, brother but 313 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: versatile guy switched from left tackle to right tackle At 314 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: Northern iowa his last. Season can obviously play god as. 315 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: Well that's kind of where he projects in THE. Nfl 316 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: participated in The Hula, bowl and, uh you, KNOW i 317 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: think he's obviously got the. Lineage, Yeah Trevor penning was 318 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: known for being just a, nasty just dog. Like that's 319 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: how he got so much draft. Buzz was that The Senior. 320 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: Bowl he was just punking, guys was just fighting everybody 321 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: in punking. People you, know it hasn't been he hasn't 322 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: had the smoothest start to HIS nfl, career to be. 323 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: Honest you know it's been had some ups and, downs but, 324 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: hey Maybe jared kind of follows in his footsteps and can. 325 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: Thrive you're you're just. 326 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 4: How much ink did you spell On Trevor? PENNING i 327 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 4: mean you wrote a hundred stories about. 328 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: Him he was a popular. 329 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 3: Guy he wrote a. 330 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 4: Lot about, him very, popular as we talked about him 331 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 4: a lot on the. Podcast so you're just looking to 332 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 4: dust off some of the stories and you're. 333 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: Like, well if there's if there's a guy that you 334 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: circle the name, for like first training camp fight A, 335 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: Penning jared might be the guy that you circle he's 336 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: yet in his. 337 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 3: Blood, yeah it's. 338 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 4: True and also a lot of times those undrafted guys 339 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 4: are probably at the top of the list or some 340 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 4: of those training camp scuffles. 341 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: Or or the. 342 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: Other the flip side of that is like you're, like, 343 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: Look i'm. Undrafted i'm not trying to ruffle any feathers 344 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: out of. Year Like i'm also not trying to get 345 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: yelling at, Right so it could go could go either. 346 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: Way some of these guys are trying to make a 347 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: statement and stand up for themselves out there some of 348 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: these hot. Practices but, YEAH i think that he's an interesting. 349 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: NAME i, mean just when you talk about someone whose 350 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: older brother's first round, pick that especially who was connected 351 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: to The ravens during the pre draft. 352 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 4: Process he was a ton of mock drafts had The 353 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 4: ravens taking him that year and it didn't. Happen BUT 354 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 4: i think that that's a name that definitely stands out 355 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 4: when you look at. It the offensive line thing is 356 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 4: interesting because The ravens are, like they're they're deep at 357 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 4: offensive line at draft of, three they drafted, three they 358 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 4: re Signed Ben, cleveland and then they just recently Signed Joe. 359 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 4: Nobloom nobloom out of the L A rams has been 360 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 4: a starter at left. Tackle he's been a tackle starter 361 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 4: in THE. Nfl So, NOBLEM i think is a really 362 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 4: just to talk about him, quickly, LIKE i think this 363 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 4: is a really nice signing because it he basically is 364 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 4: A Josh jones replacement from a year. 365 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 3: Ago he's a. 366 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 4: Swing tackle who can be your backup left tackle if, 367 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 4: needed and and so that gives The, RAVENS i, mean 368 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 4: that's an incredibly important spot if you need. It and 369 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 4: then it also gives The ravens the ability to, say all, 370 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 4: Right Emory, jones like you can focus in at guard 371 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 4: potentially if The ravens feel like he's best suited as 372 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 4: AN nfl, guard he can play. Guard and then it 373 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 4: also like you're not in As Carton vinson exactly With Carson, 374 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 4: vincent if you needed to have somebody step in at left, 375 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 4: tackle you have a veteran to do, it and it's 376 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 4: Not Carson vincent coming from AN hbcu school as. 377 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 3: A rookie late round pick doing. 378 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 4: IT i just think it gives The ravens like really 379 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 4: good depth and then allows, you. 380 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah it solidifies a lot of things in that, Room, 381 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: yes and and really helps define roles that suit these 382 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: players for where they're at in their. Careers And i'll 383 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: also add that, THOUGH i think that makes it harder 384 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: for some of these offensive tackles that The ravens have 385 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: in their undrafted rookie class to crack the fifty. 386 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 2: Three, CERTAINLY i think it'd be very. 387 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: Hard and you also Have Carson, vincent, who like usually 388 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: an undrafted player is all, right he's gonna be a 389 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: little more. Developmental, Obviously Carson vincent's already a developmental offensive. 390 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 2: Tackle SO i think it's hard for those guys that 391 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: would be an uphill. Climb maybe they. Could he got 392 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 2: a spot on the practice. 393 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 4: SQUAD i, mean just when you look at the offensive, 394 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 4: line you have four or five starters back from last, 395 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 4: year though that's just pencil In Andrew vorhees at left 396 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 4: guard for the. Discussion, now so that's your that's. Five 397 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 4: then you drafted. Three that gets you to. Eight then 398 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 4: you Add nobloom that gets you to. Nine recent you 399 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 4: have Resigned Bank. Cleveland that gets you to. Ten, right 400 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 4: ten offensive. LINEMAN i don't know that they're gonna have 401 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 4: ten offensive lineman on the fifty three manter. 402 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:46,959 Speaker 3: Roster they. 403 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:47,479 Speaker 2: Couldn't they. 404 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 4: Couldn't but now you're talking about you're not gonna have 405 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 4: that extra. Linebacker you're not gonna Have. 406 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: Well vincent's gonna be a game day and active most, 407 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: likely but Potentially, yeah but, yeah, yeah. 408 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 4: AGREE i just think that that's those spots are going 409 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 4: to be really hard to come yes along that offensive. 410 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: Line all, Right one last player here before we take 411 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: a break THAT i want to mention is tight end 412 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: tight End Sam pitts out Of Minnesota, duluth small school, 413 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: guy you, know, big big, dude six six two forty. 414 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: Five and the reason THAT i highlight him is because 415 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: The ravens didn't draft the tight, end which was something 416 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: that we thought could. Happen they obviously have their their 417 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: big three locked in And Mark, Andrews Charlie hohler And isaiah, 418 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: likely but there's not a lot of. Depth kadeer Is 419 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: mail reportedly left to go sign with The Las Vegas. 420 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: Raiders who why are they trying to poach our tight 421 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: ends all the time on our practice? SQUAD i don't 422 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: like that they're trying To Darren waller us, again but 423 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: good luck To. Kadeer, yeah and so The ravens don't 424 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: really have a ton of depth there at the. Position 425 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: SO i think that that's an interesting undrafted rookie to 426 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: keep an eye, on probably not for the fifty, three 427 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: but for the practice squad at. 428 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 3: Least, Yeah so all, right we're gonna take a quick. 429 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 4: Break when we come, back we'll round out this conversation 430 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 4: and also answer some. Questions you're listening to The lounge. 431 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 4: Podcast we are coming to you from The Sea Geek. 432 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 4: Studio we want to mention our partners At Draft King. 433 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 4: Sportsbook they are an official sports vetting partner of The 434 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 4: Baltimore Ravens Draft King. Sportsbook The crown is. Yours so 435 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 4: another undrafted possibility for The ravens is that. Kicker of, 436 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 4: course they Drafted Tyler loop in the sixth. Round he 437 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 4: was the first time the franchise has ever drafted a. 438 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 4: Kicker On, monday the team announced that they are Released Justin. 439 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 4: Tucker so as it stands right, Now Tyler loop is 440 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 4: the one kicker who is on the roster and he's 441 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 4: a favorite to win that. Job Jeff's reebeck From The 442 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 4: athletic reported That wyoming Kicker John hoyland is also expected 443 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 4: to sign After Rookie mini. Camp he was here on 444 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 4: a tryout basis for Rookie mini caamp again From. Wyoming 445 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 4: and so there could be a battle between those two, 446 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 4: Guys loop And hoyland for a roster spot rookie. 447 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: Battle and do The ravens bring in a veteran at 448 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 1: some point obviously a critically important, position AND i wouldn't 449 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: rule out the possibility at some point this summer they 450 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: sign a veteran to compete with those two. Rookies but you, 451 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: Know Justin tucker made the team as an undrafted, rookie 452 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: so certainly a track record there's not. Impossible, Yeah AND 453 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: i think it's just. GOOD i think that that's an 454 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: interesting battle when you have two rookies pushing each. 455 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: OTHER i think that that could be really. 456 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: Interesting John hoyland he went thirteen of twenty last year At. 457 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: Wyoming the previous year he is twenty two of twenty, 458 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: five including ten of ten from inside forty five. 459 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 4: YARDS i, MEAN i think that The ravens want some 460 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 4: competition there At, kicker like they made it clear during 461 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 4: the draft press conferences and also when we sat down 462 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 4: and talk With eric last week That Tyler luke Was 463 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 4: Randy brown's favorite. Guy he was the one that said 464 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 4: to go find me a, kicker and he was the 465 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 4: number one guy that they came back, with and so 466 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 4: he's got the he's the ads on favorite to win that. 467 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 4: Position AND i certainly think that he has a ton 468 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 4: of potential and could do. That but you want to 469 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 4: have competition for a, rookie especially a late round, guy 470 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 4: and so nothing is guaranteed By Andy, stretch and so 471 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 4: they've earned, competition and could they do it with a 472 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 4: veteran as well later in the. Process, POTENTIALLY i think 473 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 4: that that possibility. 474 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: Exists the best man, WINS i mean, HONESTLY i, MEAN 475 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: i Agree Tyler loop was the guy That randy, picked 476 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: but he was a sixth round. Pick it's not like 477 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: you invested a third round pick in, him you. KNOW i, 478 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: mean so the difference in a sixth round pick and 479 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: an undrafted guy isn't vast and from from an investment, 480 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: standpoint so, like may the best man? Win AND i 481 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: would Agree Tyler loop is the. Favorite he was the 482 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: guy that they. Picked BUT i think If John hoyland 483 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: kicks really well over the summer and beats, him, out 484 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: then he beats him. Out, YEAH i, think and of 485 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: course you know he still needs to sign a. Contract 486 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: this is all, reports but, yeah. 487 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 4: Yep again that goes back to what we were talking 488 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 4: about earlier with the the tryout basis that happens during 489 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 4: this recommitty camp and there's usually a little bit of 490 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,959 Speaker 4: roster movement after the. Fact we'll see if he ends 491 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 4: up signing that, contract As rebec, said is likely to. 492 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 4: Occur all, right a question here that we. Got as, 493 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 4: always you can email us at the lounge At ravens 494 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 4: DOT nfl dot. Net the email here is From johannis who, 495 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 4: SAID i loved the episode, yesterday BUT i still need 496 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 4: to understand why The ravens Shows Malachi starks over Nick Emon. 497 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 3: Worri the nick emun. 498 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 4: Wary just the listeners know he was a super talented 499 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 4: safety out Of South, carolina and in the email he 500 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 4: writes that he killed it at the. Combine his stats are. 501 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 4: GREAT i know That sarks has more experience and came 502 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 4: from a better program At, georgia but the best rated 503 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 4: safety in my mind Was Emon. Worri and Then Emo 504 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 4: warri ends up going To seattle With mike. McDonald of, 505 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 4: course Former ravens defensive. Coordinator So johannes is just asking 506 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 4: Why starks Over Emon. 507 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: WORRI i, MEAN i think that the short, Answers Malachi 508 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: starks checked more, boxes AND i, think, YEAH nicki memory 509 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: tests a little bit. 510 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: Better at the. 511 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: COMBINE i think from a production's production, standpoint they were 512 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: pretty much on level. FOOTING i wouldn't say anybody had an, 513 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: edge but you, know, Yes emore blew up the. Combine 514 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: malachi didn't necessarily buil up the, combine. 515 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 2: But is a very athletic. 516 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: Dude fast has all the athletic attributes you, want maybe 517 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: not to the testing degree Of Nick Ema, moory but 518 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: plenty athletic. Enough AND i Think malachi checks some other 519 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: boxes perhaps That nick didn't in terms of like the, 520 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: leadership the football intelligence on the, field the. VERSATILITY i 521 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: think he probably has a little bit more versatility Than Emon. 522 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 2: Worri and if you're looking. 523 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: At what the best compliment To Kyle hamilton would, BE 524 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: i Think Malachi starks as a better compliment probably Than 525 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: Emon morriy would. 526 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: Be Iman worri is. 527 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: In my, eyes kind of very similar To Kyle hamilton 528 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: in a big bodied you, know can play close to 529 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and bang around in. There Whereas, 530 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 1: malachi The ravens really feel like his best position and 531 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: he can play, many but his best position is kind 532 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: of as that free. Safety he can play him single, 533 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: high you, know kind of be the center fielder with 534 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 1: a big time range over the, top making plays over the. 535 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 2: Top that's not Really Nick Emon moorey's. Strength, Yeah SO 536 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: i Think. 537 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: Malachi checked more boxes and AND i think he was 538 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: a better fit for the for what The ravens wanted 539 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: to Compliment Kyle. 540 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 4: HAMILTON i just think, Overall malachi was a better overall. 541 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 4: Player he was a number one rated safety on The ravens. 542 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 2: Board this is. 543 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 4: A three, year super productive player At, georgia had a 544 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 4: pick like his fourth college play playing in THE sec 545 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 4: on super talented defense that won the national. Championship so 546 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 4: like he came in right, away was an impact player At, 547 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 4: georgia played throughout his college, career incredibly smart and like 548 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 4: the testing, thing Like Emon wore had the better overall. 549 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 4: Combine he was the guy that everybody was talking about 550 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 4: from a testing standpoint coming out of the. Combine but 551 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 4: as we've both said, before that kind of disguises the 552 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 4: fact that it makes you think That Malachi starks had 553 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 4: a bad. 554 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 3: Combine he. 555 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 4: Didn't he was very he had he was very incredibly 556 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 4: highly on some of the other testing, categories not the 557 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 4: forty like e and he's not as big as even, 558 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 4: worry but like he's plenty. Athletic and then you match 559 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 4: that with the, production the, intelligence the, leadership who he 560 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 4: is as a, person the film, study all. 561 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: That you checked all the. BOXES i Mean Eric consta 562 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: said it on the. Podcast that was the exact. 563 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 3: Quote he checked all the. 564 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: Boxes so if you check all the, boxes it's hard 565 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: for another guy to beat you. 566 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: Out, yeah, right ALEC i got A a. 567 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: Plus, yeah and so you can't top, that, Right so 568 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: we appreciate the. 569 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 4: Question there you hat us and as always you can 570 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 4: email us at the lounge At ravens DOT nfl dot. 571 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 4: Nets we are going to continue breaking down everything over 572 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 4: the course of the off. Season OTA's are around the 573 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 4: corner and now that the draft is in the rear 574 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 4: view mirror and then schedule release is coming up next 575 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 4: week scheduled THE nfl Scheduled Travel, draft which means it's 576 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 4: the Travel, draft which is always a fun episode and. 577 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 4: Again that schedule drops Next wednesday, night eight, pm. 578 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 3: So we are very excited about. 579 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 4: That thank you so much for, listening and we will 580 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 4: talk with you again soon