1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 2: Ah, that's us. 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 3: Good morning, good morning, good morning, happy happy Fox Football Saturday. 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: It's right. We are the fellas. 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 3: Jeff Schwartz my new fella, I'm Anthony Gargana as we 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 3: hang out from the Fox Sports Radio studios. And isn't 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 3: it wonderful to have the NFL back. We've had two 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 3: fascinating games to start to season, just you know, wild weather, delays, 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 3: Lougi's all kinds of stuff last night. Good morning, Jeff, 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 3: how are you, my brother? 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: I'm good. 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 4: I'm a little tired. I've had a couple of traveling days. 13 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 4: If I spit like on you do, I get tossed 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 4: for the show. 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: I'm out. 16 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 4: I go back to right, right back to bed. 17 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: You think I'm gonna let. 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: You ruin the show like you used to ruin practice 19 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: by getting to a fight. 20 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 4: I I never did that. Gotta fight to it thrown out. 21 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 4: But I mean, obviously that that's something that can happen 22 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 4: one a way to start the season. I mean, look, 23 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 4: you're an Eagles guy, I'm a chief Sky. So this 24 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 4: is a great couple of hours talk about those games. Obviously, 25 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 4: a big weekend in college football, as well, and I'm 26 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 4: well versus I will say this, I don't give myself 27 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 4: shout outs very often. There are not a lot of 28 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 4: people that can talk both college football and NFL and 29 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 4: do a good job at both like I am. I 30 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 4: am locked in on both. I'm excited to talk to 31 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 4: you about about all this stuff that we see in 32 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 4: the last couple of days, what we're gonna see today. 33 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 4: But I don't want to be a worry wart. Like 34 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 4: it's not fun to be a worry wart. And I'm 35 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 4: a Chiefs fan and in every year they said they'd 36 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 4: sort of do this where it's like, oh boy, there's 37 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 4: some issues. But I think there's some issues. I think 38 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 4: people if you're if you're wanting to be a Chief hater, 39 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 4: someone who thinks the Chiefs are done. Uh last night 40 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 4: was the Chargers are good. They played well. They're not 41 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 4: like zer Bow and not think they're not like I mean, 42 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 4: there's a team the Chiefs can can be competitive with it. 43 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 4: There's a lot there's a lot of red flags, Buddy. 44 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, look, you know there if you think about it. 45 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 3: Their offense, the Chargers offense really moved when they needed 46 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: first downs, got them when they did yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, 47 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 3: it's issue. That means my biggest way, Look, offensively, you're 48 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 3: gonna get Rice back. I thought the line held up. 49 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 3: You know there's gonna be like you should be okay, yeah, right, 50 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 3: Like offensively, I just just defense. And again you know 51 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: there's no one better at it than Spags, but they 52 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: just look again, it's I hate to I hate to 53 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: do this because you know, other than anybody, especially now, 54 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:07,839 Speaker 3: September is a little bit of a glorified preseason that counts, except. 55 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 4: The Chiefs did play their starters in the preseason like that. 56 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 4: That's the only like having on to that is they 57 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 4: actually do you try in the preseason. Look offensively, it 58 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 4: was ugly first half, but you have to sort of think, 59 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 4: I think where the Chiefs were at right, So ray 60 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 4: Sheet Rice and if you're Worthy, obviously we're big parts 61 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 4: of the training camp. I mean, they were supposed to 62 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 4: be whole this year. And then ray she Rice gets suspended, 63 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 4: which look, the Chiefs sort of knew that was coming 64 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 4: at some point. Correct, it wasn't gonna be a surprise, right, 65 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 4: it did happen, and then you know, Worthy gets hurt 66 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 4: on the first drive of the game, second play running 67 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 4: the Davis Kelly is gonna mess out, which again like 68 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 4: that that can happen, but something that you don't see 69 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 4: happen from a team like the Chiefs, like that kind. 70 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: Of just slide. 71 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 4: It justesn't happened that way. So now you're down two 72 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 4: wide receivers. So basically, now Hollywood Brown becomes your one, 73 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 4: right Thornton becomes your two. I mean, those are guys 74 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 4: that are not ones and twos. And eventually they figured out, 75 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 4: like eventually, you know, second half it looked a lot 76 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: cleaner and whatnot. And you mentioned what the offensive line was, 77 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 4: basically starting two new guys right Kingsley Sue Matia left 78 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 4: guard he had played one game there last year, but 79 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 4: obviously not a full full deck last year of games, 80 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 4: and a new left tackle. Enough, the offense line was 81 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 4: like the John Taylor stuff with the penalty is certainly 82 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 4: not great. But I thought the offense line was fine. 83 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 4: It was fine. It wasn't It wasn't great, but not 84 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 4: a lot in my opinion to be worried about. Here's 85 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 4: the problem. So last year in the Super Bowl, we 86 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 4: know how well the Eagles offense played. The thing that 87 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 4: to me that was not talked about enough was how 88 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 4: poorly the Chiefs rushed the passer last year wau Jalen Hurts. 89 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 4: They did not touch Jalen Hurts. Now, the Eagles offense 90 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 4: line is really great. I get that, but you know 91 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 4: you gotta give a little bit. You're gonna play the Bills, 92 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 4: You're gonna play other teams that have good offensive lines. 93 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 4: So you have to hit the quarterback. It's part of 94 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 4: your job. As you can't. 95 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: You have to. 96 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 4: You have to get home with four because it's really 97 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 4: difficult to pressure all the time to create quarterback you know, 98 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 4: to create but basically to create quarterback pressures, Like I 99 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 4: wanna use pressure twice, but like that's what it is, right, Like, 100 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 4: you have to bring pressure on defense. If you do that, 101 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 4: you leave a lot of guys on islands and eventually, 102 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 4: over the course of sixty minutes, they get beat. What 103 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 4: you saw last night, and so it happened on the 104 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 4: final touchdown for the Chrugers. Right, the Chiefs pass rush 105 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 4: did not get better this offseason. It is a problem, dude, 106 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 4: I I it was to me. That was the biggest 107 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 4: thing I saw last night was the pass rush. And 108 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 4: there's no again, offensively, you get Rice back in Game 109 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 4: seven worthies injury. Imagine it's not out for the season. 110 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 4: He'll come back at some point. There's no reinforcements, and 111 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 4: your Eagles come to Kansas City, I believe next weekend. 112 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 4: If you're not going to hit the quarterback, what are 113 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 4: the Eagles going to do to you? Look, I there's 114 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 4: no there's but there's no readforce. There's no they're not 115 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 4: training for anyone. It's week one. Like, there's not a 116 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 4: bunch of street free agents hanging out waiting. 117 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 3: The Eagles got their Eagles got the best pass rusher 118 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 3: out there. 119 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: It's Darius Smith. Correct yesterday, That. 120 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 4: To me feels like the biggest Glary weakness. To me, 121 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 4: it Look the Chargers. I know people will say, well, 122 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 4: you're not giving the Chargers credit. Look, the Chargers have 123 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 4: needed have wanted that Herbert game forever, like they've been 124 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 4: they've been this one. They've been waiting for this Herbert 125 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 4: game for years, right where he sort of closed out 126 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 4: a game, right, they've been waiting for that. It happened 127 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: the Chargers when there was thirteen thirteen. I thought like, 128 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 4: oh I got thirteen twelve. Another small thing like by 129 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 4: the way, like you chieve to keep this touchdown and 130 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 4: they missed extra point. You're like, what, well, look, what's 131 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 4: more demoralizing than that, buddy. But the Church's offensive line 132 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 4: is Joe Al's really good at left tackle, but it's 133 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 4: not it's not great off. It's a line like the 134 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 4: inside is not great. You have a backup right tackle. 135 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 4: So it's a it's a big concern to pass the 136 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 4: rest for the Chiefs. 137 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think so too. 138 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: They need somebody off like Dan off the Edge's it's 139 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: just not you're you rely so heavily. The problem is 140 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 3: bags rely so heavily on Chris Jones, right, So it's 141 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: like wherever he's got it, it's why we'll move him 142 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 3: up and down to go try to find the pigeon right. 143 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 4: Well, and then last night he he goes he does 144 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 4: the wrong thing on the final play the game where 145 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 4: he breaks contained and uh he break contained Herbert break 146 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 4: containle But he ends up obviously, you know, creating an 147 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 4: issue by going inside when he should have so like 148 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 4: you did so, like, if you're gonna it's just to 149 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 4: me those are this just I saw last night? 150 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, but let me clos you real quick though, I mean, 151 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 3: let let me, let me caution because you're you're Chiefs fan, 152 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 3: and no do they get They do start slow, all right, 153 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: Like I've seen any of these teams start slow. He 154 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: we've I've had conversations with him about this, and it's 155 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: always about November and December. His team's always played better 156 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: in the in November December. And while they've played some 157 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: it's not like that they were finally tuned machine coming 158 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 3: into it. You know, you're you're only playing a handful 159 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 3: of of snaps. 160 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: They just play. 161 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 3: The Eagles just didn't play anybody, right, so they think 162 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 3: they saw a little bit of action. But I think 163 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: all around the league you're going to have a little 164 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 3: bit of a little bit of a preseason kind of thing, 165 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: like a week one thing where I don't think that 166 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: you can can freak out over over one week. 167 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying you're freaking out. 168 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, well, I think you just gotta just 169 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: relaxes a little bit. 170 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 4: So I understand what you're saying, and I do agree. Now, 171 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 4: the Chiefs historically have started fast, though Week one sometimes 172 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 4: has been a little ugly, but they played pretty well. 173 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: In Septembers over the years. 174 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 4: I've just given away and the just way Andy Well, yeah, 175 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 4: I mean the best teams obviously peaking in November December. 176 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 4: But the thing that that the thing that worries me 177 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 4: is the things that were bad last February, right against 178 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 4: the Eagles. Uh they I think I think offensively they're 179 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 4: gonna be fine, right and obviously we saw the Eagles 180 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 4: rush the passer. Well, I think they fixed like Josh 181 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 4: Emmons as a baller, he's still rookie left tackle, like 182 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 4: that they fixed that problem long term. I think Kingsley 183 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 4: Sue Matia will be fine at left guard. I think 184 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 4: that's if you're worthy and race she like like like 185 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 4: they're gonna be fine. On offense, Traviscous is not what 186 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 4: he used to be, but he's he's good enough for 187 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 4: what they need from him, right, Like this is very 188 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 4: last year, like we know those things. But a long 189 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 4: touchdown yesterday and and he he's fine. 190 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: When he did right. Mahomes looks great, locked in mate, 191 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 2: it looks good too. 192 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. I feel like week one, you don't want to 193 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 4: see that from Mahomes, Like you'd rather not have to 194 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 4: have Hero Mahomes in week one, but so be it. 195 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 4: He was obviously on a mission last night to keep 196 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 4: up and make that game close and does not close 197 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 4: without him. But the pass orde like again, like it looked. 198 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: No better than last February. 199 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 4: And that I think is the concern, right is like 200 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 4: where does that get better? Like the offense, I agree 201 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 4: better November December gonna happen. I trust Andy Reid And 202 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 4: again like there were guys open early in the game, 203 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 4: but Mahomes is playing with guys that are now you know, 204 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 4: Thornton's a fourth or fifth string option who becomes number 205 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 4: two in the middle of a game in week one. 206 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 4: Like it's going to take time. You have said this 207 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 4: a lot, like Jujus Smith. Schuster said this a few 208 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 4: years ago. It's first stint with the Chiefs. It took 209 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 4: him about twelve weeks to feel comfortable with Mahomes in 210 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 4: the Chiefs offense. And then we saw ezebra Worthy last 211 00:10:58,320 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 4: year come on strong, and the year we saw race 212 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 4: Rights come on strong. That every work he sees like 213 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 4: it takes a little bit of time to figure out 214 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 4: how to play with Mahomes. There's just a lot of 215 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 4: moving parts and a lot of things that he wants 216 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 4: done a certain way, and like it just takes time 217 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 4: any reads I figure how to use you. So they're 218 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 4: gonna be final on offense, like they're gonna figure it 219 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 4: out that that that that I'm not concerned all about 220 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 4: the offense from last night. 221 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: I'm really not. Again. 222 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 4: The concern for me is that defensively, you mentioned I 223 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 4: love spats. He does like the pressure. And when you 224 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 4: have pressure and it works, it works. Still it doesn't. 225 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 4: When you pressure you have you typically will play you 226 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 4: know man the way he pressures that zero pressure, you'll 227 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 4: play man behind it, right, And that means you have 228 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 4: to have guys that hold up a man coverage and. 229 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: The goal, this is what the goal is. 230 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 4: The goal is to is to have your guys get 231 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 4: home essentially right, get to the quarterback before the balls thrown. 232 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 4: That's simple, right, And they have corners and throat. I 233 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 4: think they can do that well. If you can't get 234 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 4: home and I give him play. We saw on on 235 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 4: that touchdown on the past by Herbert like that's the 236 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 4: plays over right. 237 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: So. 238 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 4: I it's it's hit or miss. It was I think 239 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 4: mostly hit on pressure yesterday. But the third and long 240 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 4: stuff was they were they got torsed on third and long, 241 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 4: which is not acceptable, and again give Herbert credit. Herbert 242 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 4: looked incredible. Look he like he's the story today. 243 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 3: I think, you know, we're looking at it from a 244 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: chief angle, and we should and we will. 245 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: But I think Herbert's the story. I tell you. 246 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 3: I listen, I remember so Steve, and you know Steve's 247 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: wont did you play for him? Play when when he 248 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: when he was were the Giants when he was there? 249 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 2: No? 250 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 4: No, yes, yeah the super Bowl? No no, no, I didn't 251 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 4: want super Bowl. But he came back in fourteen or 252 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 4: I think it was fright, I came back. I think 253 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 4: I was on one of those. I was thinking I 254 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 4: was on one of those teams. I was there. I 255 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 4: was taking which one I was on. I was there 256 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 4: for one year when I was there. 257 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 3: Yes, So if you remember his super Bowl year, I'll 258 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: never forget talk. We're very close because he was you know, 259 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 3: he's with the Eagles, and he and I became very 260 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 3: very close. Like my kids call him Uncle Spags, right, 261 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 3: So you know that's kind of where it is. 262 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: So I told to him yesterday morning. 263 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 3: We were texting about it right about the This was 264 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: before the game. He his defenses usually started out slow too. 265 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 3: I'll never forget that here. He was like desponded because 266 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: the Cowboys put up thirty on them. And I don't 267 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 3: know it was washing there was another division. It wasn't 268 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 3: the Eagles. Was somebody else put up a big number. 269 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 3: I think it was the Packers put up a big number, 270 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 3: like like ridiculous, like sports sports. His defenses, and it's 271 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 3: kind of indicative because and you're right, like he does 272 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: he lives by the blitz. I mean, that's it's his 273 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: whole thing. But he's usually those defenses by the time 274 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 3: they get it because you're so much responsibility on the 275 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 3: defensive backs because he uses them a lot and to blitz, 276 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: and he puts him out on an island like you said, 277 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 3: So it's sometimes it takes a minute for all. Like 278 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 3: like honestly, I'm not worried a little bit on the Chiefs, 279 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 3: like I'm not. I think the story is Herbert and 280 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 3: Quentin Johnston. Here's a kid who couldn't hold all of 281 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 3: the football, right, like you. 282 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 4: Drop one in the end zone too before he yeah right, 283 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 4: but I mean he had he had a game thirty 284 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 4: five to one to score two touchdowns. By the way, 285 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 4: was Johnson, Oh my god, are you serious. Yeah, thirty five, 286 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 4: thirty five to one, So wow. I am a Herbert 287 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 4: guy who went to Oregon. I went to Oregon, and 288 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 4: I when he was during the draft process, I thought 289 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 4: some of the criticues of him were kind of silly. 290 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 4: And he's had a good chart to his career, obviously, 291 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 4: and sometimes you just need that coach right to get 292 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 4: the most out of you. And in last year we 293 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 4: saw some glimpses of the most getting out of him, 294 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 4: but you know, it wasn't I think there was still 295 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 4: room for growth that we think we saw last night. 296 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 4: What I liked last night is the it's essentially like 297 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 4: the confidence and just sort of taking over that game 298 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 4: because Mahomes was doing Mahomes things like that that can 299 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 4: be intimidating. You're like, oh boy, here, here we go again. 300 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 4: And the Chargers, obviously a Charger very often, as we 301 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 4: know right there, they were ended up making errors and 302 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 4: stuff that they kind of lose them the game. And 303 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 4: he just took command of the game. Man his ability 304 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 4: to run the football, to kind of control the pocket. 305 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 4: Again on the touchdown the go ahead, that was a 306 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 4: pressure that was a one guy free. He bought tom, 307 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 4: He bought time he backed up, be backed up. He 308 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 4: found Johnson like he was able to manipulate the pocket 309 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 4: really well last night. It was just a very clean 310 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 4: game from him week one. And I think if you're 311 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 4: a Chargers fan hard by year two and you upgraded 312 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 4: some of the weapons and you hope that Johnson and 313 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 4: Trey Harris and some of these young guys are able 314 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 4: to play well, it just felt like a very whole 315 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 4: game from Herbert and a confidence level that we had 316 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 4: not seen before from him, in my opinion, any game 317 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 4: of this magnitude r I mean, there's always talk like, dude, 318 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 4: yes he's big games. Yes, I think he did a 319 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 4: good job in a big game. He's got a new 320 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 4: girlfriend now, so maybe that I could look up his girlfriend. 321 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 4: I had no idea, and then maybe that you know, 322 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 4: some some confidence in that now, Like I don't know, man, 323 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 4: he seems to be a different dude in week one. 324 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I say one thing, you know, because I'm 325 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 3: a Herbert fan and I. 326 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 4: Love her, right, I said to everyone he'd be good. 327 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,479 Speaker 4: So I'm on the right side of history. 328 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 3: Here, yeah, I mean, and you and I see it's 329 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 3: the same exact way, right. 330 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: I love the kid. I mean be honest with you. 331 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: You go to the di the Q lab right here, 332 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: Herbert's is what comes out of it? Oh you know 333 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 2: what I mean? 334 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: Size, arm, arm, talent, athleticism, I mean you know, I mean, 335 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 3: the kids got everything. It's why I don't understand. For 336 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 3: some reason, there's a lot of vitriol right on him 337 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 3: to him. But well, and I keep saying, I keep 338 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 3: going back to the coaching, right like like he had 339 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: a historically bad coach. All right, last year a great 340 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 3: coach comes in, but you got to give the guy 341 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 3: a minute to build it. He has one receiver, I 342 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 3: mean last year, one receiver. We talked about all the 343 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: drops to Quentin Johnson. It was a joke, right like 344 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 3: pizza board hands. He dropped everything. And somehow it's on 345 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 3: Herbert when you know they had a respectable year. Harball 346 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 3: is a great coach, Like, I don't understand what's not 347 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 3: to like about the Chargers And what's why people just 348 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 3: don't like Herbert? 349 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 2: Well, I think people. 350 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 4: Genuinely have a problem with saying someone is the next 351 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 4: like the next good thing, the next great thing. Uh, 352 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 4: and then they just judge that player based on playoff 353 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 4: wins solely and he has not you know, he hasn't 354 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 4: put up that that success yet. But yeah, I mean 355 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 4: his arm talent has always been there, his ability to 356 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 4: use his legs has always been there. And now year 357 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 4: two in this offense, it feels like yesterday just a 358 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 4: little more under control with what he was trying to 359 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 4: do each and every past Now he does tell the ball, 360 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 4: I think, just he needs to put a little and 361 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 4: enter the ball and some of deep passes. 362 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: But so be it. 363 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 4: But I think people just have a problem with when 364 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 4: guys like haven't proved it yet and get the like 365 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 4: can't miss prospect type of thing, right, And that's what 366 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 4: we've seen with Herbert, where people talk about Herbert without 367 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 4: the playoff wins, and people for some reason get really 368 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 4: frustrated about that. Again, I don't get it. You can 369 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 4: separate the two, I think and say Herbert is very talented, 370 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 4: but still they're missing a little bit of of those 371 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 4: big moments. But not yesterday, yesterday, yesterday, But. 372 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 2: Were you're greeting Herbert? You know? 373 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: And and I get there's been a couple of games 374 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 3: where he's come up small. But doesn't the coach have 375 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 3: to be a part of the equation. Well, stale come on. 376 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 3: Of course, of course it does. 377 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 4: And I don't think we You know, one thing I 378 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 4: like about about I think the modern football discourse a 379 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 4: little bit more than maybe when I was playing, and 380 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 4: really the early stage I think of, like social media 381 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 4: whatnot is we do at least now I think discuss 382 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 4: situation way more than ever before. And situation includes obviously coaching, right, ownership, 383 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 4: personal around you, where I felt that just wasn't the 384 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 4: case for a while, like when I was coming up 385 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 4: and to like no one talked about no one talked 386 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 4: about that, and now we do. I think it's important 387 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 4: because we're learning, at least I'm learning that situation might 388 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 4: matter more than anything. 389 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 2: Right. 390 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 4: Your talent level is your talent level, and if you're 391 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 4: not in the right situation, you're just not gonna have 392 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 4: a good career, a good season. And Brandon Staley was 393 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 4: not a good coach right as a head coach and 394 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 4: hardball we know because he did it at San Diego, Stanford, 395 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 4: in San Francisco and Michigan. I was standing coach. I 396 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 4: was standing coach, and I think I don't think I 397 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 4: know in year two now in this offense, they're going 398 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 4: to have a better year offensively, and we have to 399 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 4: just maybe hold off what some of the Herbert takes 400 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 4: and just see how well he plays this season. 401 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yes. 402 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 3: All right, Well we're continue this because it's the weirdest store. 403 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's the weirdest debate. I get it 404 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 3: all the time. Like last night or yesterday during my 405 00:20:54,840 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 3: local show, to the listeners are going, here, you go, 406 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 3: we're your favorite team tonight. I'm like, what do you mean? 407 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 3: I go just because I think Rboll's a good coach 408 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 3: and I think Herbert's a really good quarterback. 409 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 2: Not my team. I'm just looking at from a football standpoint, 410 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 2: all right. 411 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 3: Anyway, it was funny they were busting my chops. We'll 412 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 3: get into it all little so much to discuss the 413 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 3: first two games of the NFL season. It just feels 414 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 3: so big, it feels so eptic, epic. 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First of all, 440 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 3: just the bigness of it, like singular games Thursday night 441 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: to start the season on Peacock. Last night on YouTube? 442 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 3: What did you think of the of the debut YouTube presentation? 443 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 4: So I don't listen to a ton of game with 444 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 4: the volume on. I don't know why, I just don't. 445 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 4: I don't really somebody. Actually, I actually like a lot 446 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 4: of the announcers. The announcer I just. 447 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 2: The first half. 448 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 4: My daughter we were in our TV. My daughter was 449 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 4: watching Despicable Me Too, so who had the volume on that? 450 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 4: And I was listening to had the Chiefs game on 451 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 4: mute okay, and I didn't really hear anything, and I 452 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 4: saw people complaining about stuff of the. 453 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 2: Internet, as they usually do because people are losers. 454 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 4: And I then put the volume on the second half 455 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 4: when you went to bed, and I thought it was fine. 456 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 4: I like rich Eison, I liked I like Warner, I mean, 457 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 4: Warners sometimes is super hard on my homes. I think 458 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 4: some of these guys don't like his play style, like 459 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 4: eight minutes sort of been that way over the years, 460 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,479 Speaker 4: except like really hard on my homes. And you're like, oh, 461 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 4: I don't know sure, but I like those guys. I'm 462 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 4: gonna be the old guy here. Man, I'm thirty nine. 463 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 4: You could skip me with the YouTube stars. I don't 464 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 4: I don't care. I mean, I like, I just there 465 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 4: was most of the guys like god Slid like, hey, guys, 466 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 4: these guys are big. They're big, I know, and now 467 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 4: I know. There was some six seven joke that I 468 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 4: guess the kids used that slang. I don't care. It's 469 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 4: eleven thirty at night. Man, who's watching this game? Think 470 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 4: about the kids right now, you know. 471 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: I like, I'm like, I just you didn't see the 472 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 2: pregame show. 473 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 3: So my circle of friends in this game, I didn't 474 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 3: see it either, right, but my circle of friends were, 475 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 3: they were free. I'm going to text chain and they're 476 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 3: freaking out. I had I had a baseball game last night. 477 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 3: We had football practice because we have a game today, 478 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 3: and then we had for my son, and then we 479 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 3: had baseball, and so I didn't see it, right, So 480 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 3: I was watching the game on my phone and the 481 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 3: dugout the uh. 482 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be there today a softball practice. Maybe I'll 483 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 4: be watching Organ Oklahoma State on. 484 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: My phone exactly. 485 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 4: I told my daughter, I'm like, Emmy, we might have 486 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 4: to leave like ten minutes early because Organ place, And 487 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 4: of course the game I want to watch is at 488 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 4: three thirty Eastern today, but softball practice, of course it 489 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 4: could be all day, right, but two to three thirty. 490 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,239 Speaker 4: And she's like, Dad, just watching your phone, Okay, all right, 491 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 4: you've gotten me there. I'll watch my phone. So like 492 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 4: I I'm I get it, man, it's it's it's sports 493 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 4: dad life. 494 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: But they were freaking out about, you know, about the 495 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 3: pregame show and how yeah, how bad it was and 496 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 3: all the YouTube stars. But that is a generational thing, right, 497 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 3: like you know, like we're being older, like you go, eh, 498 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 3: you know, like I didn't know, you know, I didn't 499 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 3: get God got so I am Speed, who's a YouTube star? 500 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 3: Was at Eagles practice last week and. 501 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: It was like a for your kids, are you like 502 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: the cool dad you autograph? No? 503 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 3: I didn't. I I should have, but I didn't. I didn't. 504 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 3: I mean, like full disclosure. I'm like, whatever, you I 505 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 3: am the old guy. I go, I don't I know 506 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 3: who he was, right, I'm like, I am Speed? And 507 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 3: I asked Big Tom and I go, dude, Who's who's that? 508 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 2: Anyways? 509 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 3: Because some YouTube kid I don't know, like to like 510 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 3: what do I what don't we know? Right? 511 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 2: Like what our kids? 512 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,719 Speaker 3: My kids go? Oh man, I am Speed? Yeah yeah bro, 513 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 3: thirty million followers. 514 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 2: Bro. 515 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 4: So I was again. I was watching a game in 516 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 4: the room with my with my daughter, and they they 517 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 4: rolled I don't watch pregame shows anyway, So I put 518 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 4: the game on right eight o'clock, right, and they did 519 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 4: that whole YouTube. They did the whole pregame like welcome 520 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 4: to the show type of you know, and a bunch 521 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 4: of YouTube stars were in there, and my daughter rattled 522 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 4: off every single one of them. Oh look it's it's 523 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 4: so and so. 524 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 2: Oh my, oh look it's that. It's that girl. What's 525 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: your name? Dad? 526 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 4: Like, oh look it's so and So. She was, Oh, 527 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 4: mister bast, I do know who mister Beast is? Like yeah, 528 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 4: like dude, she was fired up about it, like she 529 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 4: was so Like but again, my nine year old daughter, 530 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 4: I don't think it's the demo for NFL uh. I 531 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 4: think it's me and you is what they're trying to 532 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 4: do and have us. We're the ones who are going 533 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 4: to watch and pay the bills and whatnot. Obviously not again, 534 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 4: I don't, you know, sometimes not always geared for us. 535 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 4: But again, I I listened to games on mute, so 536 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 4: it really bothered me. 537 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 3: I like hich Eyes and I like Warner. I got 538 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 3: I got a flashbacks for Fine. You know what's nuts 539 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 3: is I had a flashback because so the Fella is 540 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 3: the show that we're we have began with with myself 541 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 3: and Lincoln Kennedy, right, so Big Link, who I to 542 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 3: this day love him to death. 543 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 4: And it's funny that you're Oregon and he's Washington. Yeah, 544 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 4: I know it's no one makes silk. Not everyone can 545 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 4: be a perfect I like Lincoln. Sometimes you make mistakes 546 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 4: in life. What do you do? 547 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 2: So Big look? I love him, right, I love him? Yeah, 548 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 2: I love him. Dear, dear, dear friend is my brother. 549 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 3: And uh, we we used to talk about the watching game, 550 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 3: like I love to watch games and listen to the announcer. 551 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 4: I'm a big announcer guy. But he would watch it 552 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 4: on mute. Baseball, yes, for me, announcers love them right. 553 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 3: Well, Link would watch football on mute and he would 554 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 3: have like a jazz on or whatever, but he would 555 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 3: watch it on mute. And when you said that, I 556 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 3: just gave me a flashback. Uh, and I I guess 557 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 3: it's because you guys are so used to watching film. 558 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 4: Well, it's mostly because I'm watching a ton of games 559 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 4: at the same time, like on Sundays, right, Like I 560 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 4: got so many games on. Actually, just what I typically 561 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 4: do is have the red Zone channel as the one 562 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 4: with the volume. It's like I turn my eyes to 563 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 4: the red zone channel if I want to watch an 564 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 4: important play and actually actually like announcer. I defend them 565 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 4: all the time. I think that when people hate on 566 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,959 Speaker 4: Chris Collins Orthotroke, but it's kind of silly. I think 567 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 4: they're very good at their jobs, right, I just don't 568 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 4: need to hear what they say personally. I again, like 569 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 4: I I don't know, man, maybe because I'm listening, got 570 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 4: my head sitting on talking to you for four hours, 571 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 4: I'm I watch them. I'm gonna have the volume maybe 572 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 4: on for like the organ game. Like like, I don't. 573 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 4: I don't feel like I need to hear everyone talk 574 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 4: about the game. I'm fine just sort of sitting in 575 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 4: my own space thinking about the game. But yeah, I 576 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 4: don't listen to a jazz though. I mean, that's impressive 577 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 4: by by Lincoln to do that, but I I know, 578 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 4: I just watch the game. 579 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't need the announcers. 580 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 4: But again, I thought the graphics were fine, Like, I mean, 581 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 4: most of it was fine, but it's not for the 582 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 4: broadcast is not really for me, And the things that 583 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 4: were not football related were not for me and you. 584 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 4: They're for an audience. They were hoping to grab on 585 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 4: YouTube and obviously. 586 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 3: By the way, smart like as much as I go, Yeah, 587 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 3: what do I care about a bunch of YouTube stars? Right, 588 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 3: But that's brilliant in that you are. You're trying to 589 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 3: get our kids right and truth it better is my 590 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 3: two boys are football players, but they don't watch football 591 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 3: the way I used to watch football as a kid. 592 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 4: We have so many options now. That's why we had 593 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 4: the TV. Was like my parents put on the game. 594 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 4: That's what we're watching. Now they can just unfortunately they 595 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 4: could just go grab their iPhones or whatever. They can. 596 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 2: They have o the choices when it comes to what 597 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 2: to watch. Yes, there's so much competition for it. 598 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 3: So from an NFL standpoint, it's smart to you that 599 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 3: we're gonna watch no matter what. 600 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 2: Right, So they got us so they. 601 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 3: Can dress it up and put halftime shows and sambas 602 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 3: and YouTube stars and we may grouse, but we're not 603 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 3: going anywhere. 604 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: We're watching like we're this is what we love. 605 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,239 Speaker 4: They got us from those They got me. I'm you 606 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 4: know what, fine, NFL, I'll watch all the games. Why not? 607 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 2: Got me? 608 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 4: I'll watch all the football. 609 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: That's it. That's it, That's exactly it. Anyway they were. 610 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: But my friends were freaking out because they're you know, 611 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: they're old school. 612 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 3: I was, I guess, want football, Why do you have 613 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 3: all those stuff? 614 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,959 Speaker 2: But you know, can I imagine it? 615 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 4: So it's because my dad never really cribs about the 616 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 4: pregame shows. He's just sort of like, you know, all 617 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 4: the channels to watch football. Sometimes he's like, this is 618 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 4: a lot for me, though, I figure out where football 619 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 4: is that I get, like last night, he's here in Charlotte, 620 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 4: you know, I'm like, okay, well, here we go. Let's 621 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 4: let's I gotta find the YouTube app on the TV 622 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 4: and we got to log in. Like I I get 623 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 4: that being a frustration when obviously you should just be 624 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 4: on four channels and there were you know, over the 625 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 4: air channels and very easy to watch football. I get 626 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 4: that gripe about football now where it's just it's hard 627 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 4: to find sometimes and and I get why they Again, 628 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 4: we all agree the NFL branching out is really good. 629 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 4: I think the international series is. Uh. If the footing 630 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 4: in the field was good, which I think we saw 631 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 4: last night, was fine, I think it's a really good idea, right. 632 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 4: I think the branch outs great. I think all those 633 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 4: things are great. You know, access to the games is 634 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 4: a little tougher to find. But being upset about pregame shows, 635 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's kind of silly. Just just don't 636 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 4: watch it. I don't watch it on pre game shows. 637 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 4: I I'll pick. Yeah, look we I watched. I made 638 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 4: sure last weekend to watch Leek courso, right, I think 639 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 4: we all did h at the very end. 640 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 2: Which is beautiful. 641 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'm I watched Big New Kickoff because 642 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 4: I do a podcast with with with Chris Filik. I 643 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 4: want to support him on that. But I you know, 644 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 4: this morning, like I'm when we're done with the show 645 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 4: at nine, I'm I have things to do. I watch 646 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 4: the pre game show all day. 647 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 6: Uh. 648 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 4: And so I just my personal life. I don't watch 649 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 4: a ton of pregame shows. I won't watch a ton 650 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 4: on side, I'm working tomorrow on the ten to one 651 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 4: on kind kickoff right here with with Brian and Crack. 652 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 4: So I just don't watch a ton of pre game shows. 653 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 4: It's not something that that I obsess over and get 654 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 4: all angry about. 655 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 3: Right, No, No, And you know, listen, they're they're football 656 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 3: fans and they're old schools. So they get a little 657 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 3: crazy about it. But you know, it's my only issue 658 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 3: with just streaming is that when you're streaming a game, 659 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 3: it's hard to go. 660 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: It's hard to go. 661 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 3: You got to get out of it to get back 662 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 3: to your other channel. 663 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't change the channel, and then you know 664 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 4: you for me, like just live wager is like as 665 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 4: possible because you're you're play behind. You know, it's always 666 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 4: a you know, it's forty seconds to fifty seconds behind 667 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 4: or maybe a minute behind. You can't live wager really 668 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 4: because the number is you're getting you don't know. 669 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 3: Well, you're probably watching on your phone too, like when 670 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 3: you're on the Devari iPad. 671 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 4: This one I was watching, well, I was I'd just 672 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 4: watch on my roko. I was just watching them when you're. 673 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 2: Live betting, like you're keeping an eye on the game 674 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 2: on your phone or. 675 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 4: It depends what it depends like what I'm using. But yeah, 676 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 4: it's so it's it's a little difficult to live wager. 677 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 2: But again I'm just what you're seeing. 678 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 3: What you're seeing, and you know, you could you could 679 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 3: see the play beforehand, so if you want to, you know, 680 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 3: if you want to travel. 681 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 2: So it is what it is, and. 682 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 4: As we work together more and more, you'll understand the 683 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 4: levels to to that. I'm already firing a touchdown prop 684 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 4: this morning for the Organ game winner today. So I'm nice. 685 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 4: I'm ready to go, Buddy. 686 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: I like it. I like it. Let's do it. 687 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 3: Uh, lots to do, we got it still, go over 688 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 3: lots of questions from Thursday night, Eagles, Cowboys Wild round off. Yeah, 689 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 3: so we got lots to get to and we're not 690 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 3: done with the Chiefs and Chargers. 691 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: We'll take a look at the entire league. 692 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 3: Everything is happening, look at the games on Sunday, the 693 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 3: college games today. Lots to do, fellas Jeff Schwartz, Anthony 694 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 3: gargantto right here on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, fellas. 695 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 3: Hey be sure to subscribe to Fox Sports Radio's YouTube channel. 696 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 3: To search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. You'll see our 697 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 3: best videos from all of our shows. And don't stop there. 698 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 3: Hit that thumbs up icon, comment away, let us know 699 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 3: whose takes you like, who you don't. To search Fox 700 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 3: Sports Radio on YouTube and subscribe, please do us so solid. 701 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 3: All right, what did you make of Thursday? Now let's 702 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 3: look at big picture before we get to the loogie 703 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 3: and you know how the game started. But let's just 704 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 3: go big picture because I'm sure we'll lead with it 705 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 3: next hour and continue the conversation and uh general thoughts 706 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 3: on it. 707 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 2: So so interesting. 708 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 4: So I'm yeah, I uh, I go to New York 709 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 4: on Wednesdays and Thursdays. It was flying gonna fly home 710 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 4: last night and my flight ended up getting basically banged 711 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 4: till till yesterday, just you know, the weather. It was 712 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,720 Speaker 4: got Philly eventually. But I'm saying, at hotime, I'm watching 713 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 4: the game, and you know, I'm a little little bit 714 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 4: stuck at Philly. 715 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 2: No, I stuck it. 716 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 3: I was in Newark, dude. I'm I'm an hour and 717 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 3: a half or two hours from not even from. 718 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 4: My I mean, I just I just you let me know, 719 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 4: all right, I'm watching, but I'm watching. I'm watching the 720 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 4: game and at the U and the first half was great, 721 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 4: you know, it was high scoring, like super into it. 722 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 4: I had Cowboys plus eight a little bit. So I'm like, 723 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 4: you know, it's going a well, like we're doing a 724 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 4: good job. And then the rain delay comes and I 725 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 4: went to bed. I'm like, I just I got to 726 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 4: wake up at four o'clock in the morning. I'm I'm 727 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 4: going to bed, and I woke up in the morning 728 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 4: and checked the score. I'm like, oh, twenty four to 729 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 4: twenty did they suspend the game? Like did it right? 730 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 4: Just like nothing happened for it. And then I looked 731 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 4: at the box scored it was like punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt. 732 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 4: And Collinsworth mentioned this as they were going into the 733 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 4: long rain delay. Is that I've been in this situation 734 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 4: the preseason, not really in the regular season. We're like, 735 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 4: you have a rain delay, man, like that your body 736 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 4: just like shuts down, like like you you you went 737 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 4: through halftime already, came back out. And I'm not surprised 738 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 4: that the back half of the game was ugly for 739 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 4: and half of the game was really good. And I 740 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:37,720 Speaker 4: think my takeaways are a couple things here. One is, look, 741 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 4: we'll do Eagles first. Okay, this is what they are, 742 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 4: Like I don't it's exactly. The Eagles are great. Offensive line, 743 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts is good, good run game, good weapons. Like defensively, 744 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 4: we knew some issues they were gonna have, which is 745 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 4: basically they don't have an edge rush. At the moment, 746 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 4: they trusted edge rush right, and there's some new pieces 747 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,240 Speaker 4: in the secondary, and you have to choose at certain 748 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 4: times to go, you know, to go all in on offense. 749 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 4: Mostly it's most of the time you choose one side 750 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 4: of the ball. We'll go all in offense. Okay, we 751 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,919 Speaker 4: got to be a young on defense, and we saw 752 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 4: last season the way Vick Fanjo was able to get 753 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 4: that defense playing at a very high level when it 754 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 4: mattered most. I'm just unconcerned about about the Eagles this year. 755 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 4: I'm just I'm notock conturned about at all. The interesting 756 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 4: part of the Cowboys because look, when Dak Prescott has played, 757 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 4: they've been pretty good over the years. They won a 758 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 4: ton of football when he's been healthy. I was just 759 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 4: really pleasantly surprised at the Cowboys. You got the Micah 760 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 4: Parsons issue, where you trade away one of the core 761 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 4: players of your team as one who's an elite player, 762 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 4: and a team could go in the tank when that happens, 763 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,720 Speaker 4: and then we didn't see that at all from the Cowboys. 764 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 2: No, they can't rush the passer. 765 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 4: It's a huge problem, but obviously trade parts away. But 766 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 4: I was just very impressed with Dak. Dak was really 767 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 4: good he was very under control. He knew where to 768 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 4: go with the ball. Ceedee, Lamb just screwed him all night. 769 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 4: Lamb just catch a couple of passes. Ferguson dropped the 770 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 4: touchdown pass and when he got in then and wait, look, Anthony, 771 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 4: I just if you're the NFL, I get I get 772 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 4: the protection of the players with the head injuries. But 773 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 4: what is the defender supposed to do? What is supposed 774 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 4: to do, like let him catch the football? I feel 775 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 4: like we need to use a little discretion when it comes. 776 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 4: We've watched the football, the NFL is watching the football. 777 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 4: Blaken Ship hit Ferguson, he got got you, got it, 778 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 4: got you penalized for that? 779 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 2: What's he supposed to do? 780 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 3: Man? 781 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 4: Let him catch the football? 782 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,760 Speaker 2: I don't know what the how is it? 783 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 3: And by that point right like he's already in the 784 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 3: air going towards him like and you can see he's 785 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 3: trying to pull up a little bit to not making 786 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 3: a direct headshot. 787 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 4: And Ferguson dropped the pass and dropped the past. He 788 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 4: fell down like he went down, got hit in the head. 789 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 4: So I think the Cowboys offensively, man, I was a 790 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 4: little concerned about some of the offensive line, you know, 791 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 4: just like the injuries they've had and whatnot. I was, 792 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 4: I came away, I can't wait, Maybe more impressed with 793 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 4: the Cowboys offense than anything else I saw in the game. 794 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 4: And Williams look decent too. Yeah, he looked like he 795 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 4: looked refreshed. You look renewed. I was highly pressed with 796 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 4: with with Dallas in this game. 797 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 2: And look, you could see the difference that Pickens is 798 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 2: going to make. 799 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 3: So you know, Interpid is a weapon, you know, like 800 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 3: Turpin's a guy that you know you could use that 801 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 3: will give you a good speed And they I thought 802 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 3: they I thought, I'll be honest with you, I thought 803 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 3: Shot Loomber called a great game. 804 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 2: I thought for play calling was really good. And I'm 805 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 2: with you. I you know, if not for the drops, 806 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 2: it had. 807 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 3: Certainly been a different you know, it would have been 808 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 3: a more stressful game if they were if not, you know, 809 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 3: winning outright, making it more stressful for the Eagles if 810 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 3: nothing came out right. 811 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 4: I thought the Cowboys really showed themselves. And we'll talk 812 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 4: about Eagles here, I imagine in just a minute or two, 813 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 4: I want to talk about Jahen Carter, because that that's 814 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 4: disrespectful bro. 815 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's a backstory there. What the backstory is? 816 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 3: You're right listen, you know, listen, it's the lowest thing 817 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 3: you could do, right, it's uh, it's a fight. 818 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 2: Right. The minute you do that, you're gonna fight. 819 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:28,240 Speaker 3: We'll talk about it, Fellas on Fox's Fox Sports. 820 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,240 Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning. 821 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 3: That's us, Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Gargado Fellas another iteration. Really 822 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 3: looking forward to it. A lot of fun hanging out 823 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 3: with Jeff. We'll have a well, you know, you can 824 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 3: only imagine, we'll dive into college, We'll dive into NFL. Uh, 825 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 3: you know, last hour and probably throughout the show. Well, 826 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 3: look at your betting standpoint, because Jeff w like to 827 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,280 Speaker 3: he'll give you some winners. We have our Manda brain, 828 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 3: uh in the our last hour every week to kind 829 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 3: of look at the card on the weekend. And so 830 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 3: you know, we're gonna go in and out of it 831 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 3: and we love it. So we know that you do. 832 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 3: And we're gonna celebrate it together. Celebrated great football season. 833 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 3: We're talking about what happened Thursday and Friday night and 834 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 3: Thursday night it all began with an awful injury on 835 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 3: the opening kickoff to Ben Van sumer And who had 836 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 3: a torptel attendant. While he lay there, there was an 837 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 3: incident and obviously Jalen Carter, the whole world saw it. 838 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 3: It was a Seinfeld episode that played out, and the 839 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 3: whole world saw the loogie and you know right away 840 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 3: he was flagged and ejected from the game. It came 841 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 3: out earlier that Dak had spa first in his direction. Jeff, 842 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 3: I will tell you about Carter just to set the stage. 843 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,919 Speaker 3: Jaleen is one of these kids that you know had 844 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:10,720 Speaker 3: a very, very difficult childhood. And I'm sure you played 845 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 3: with these kids a lot of guys. You have certain guys, 846 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 3: particularly on defense, that are just ferocious, come from a 847 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 3: messed up childhood and they carry. 848 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 2: Demons with them, right, and. 849 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,839 Speaker 3: They become a little on hitche It's which makes them, 850 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 3: particularly on defense, where it's such a reactionary thing, it 851 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 3: makes them ferocious. It makes them such a it makes 852 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 3: them a great player. Like, let's face it, you play 853 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 3: football at the highest level, Jeff, you're sometimes not all 854 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 3: there right, like sometimes you need to be in another place. 855 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 2: Now, Carter is one of. 856 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 3: These dudes that is a little paranoid, Like if you 857 00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 3: walk into a room and he sees people laughing, he 858 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,720 Speaker 3: may feel their laughing at him, and then he could 859 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 3: then you better run, because if he gives you a 860 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 3: grin with the empty eyes behind it, you kind of 861 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 3: better run. 862 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 2: And I think Dak. 863 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 3: Spit over the over his lineman kind of in his direction, 864 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 3: and then the carter came up to him and was 865 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,879 Speaker 3: like you spin it made like what are you doing? 866 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 3: And then Dak is like laughing, and then then he 867 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 3: starts to egg him on, like what do you mean? 868 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 3: Like you know, and then the kid loses it. 869 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 4: So there's a couple like, to me, non negotiables that 870 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 4: are not allowed on a football field, right. I think 871 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 4: that hitting someone in the groin is a non We're 872 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 4: not doing that, okay, people in the groin, all right? 873 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 4: On purpose? Of course I'm talking about. The other one 874 00:43:55,719 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 4: is spinning. It's vile, like it's it's fat, you're spinning 875 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 4: on it like it's just grows. You know, it's gross 876 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 4: disrespect all those things, right, And so I certainly sympathize 877 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 4: that a player might have had a tough upbringing, but 878 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 4: that doesn't excuse them for those Now I know you're 879 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 4: talking about that just as emotional makeup, right, but it's. 880 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 3: Not right, like there's no isshoes and all that. I'm 881 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 3: just giving you the back. I don't understand. 882 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 4: And look, and there were and this has looked that 883 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 4: it's a very difficult discussion because people do not like 884 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 4: it during draft season when we when play when when 885 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 4: scouts talk about character concerns, Okay, it's things they hear 886 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,280 Speaker 4: about players from teams or there are oftentimes when obviously 887 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 4: it comes from you know, the college. Okay, And there 888 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 4: were character concerns about Jalen Carter, and there were other 889 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 4: incidents you know, at Georgia and whatnot. So this is 890 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,399 Speaker 4: what sort of people are talking about. It's this type 891 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 4: of stuff. Now, of course it's mostly been corralled, mostly 892 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 4: not been a problem in the NFL. But a you 893 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 4: can't been on players too. You can't do in the 894 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 4: first play of the game in front of the officials, 895 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 4: like the time everything was stopped, like everyone's looking at 896 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 4: you too, both of you guys talking to each other 897 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 4: in the middle of the of the huddle, really in 898 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 4: the front of the huddle before the first play of 899 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 4: the game, the referee staring right at you, buddy, the 900 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 4: entire time. 901 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:17,879 Speaker 2: What are we doing? 902 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 4: So he to me, that's automatical. I mean, I'm glad 903 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 4: he got ejected. I know it's not in the rule 904 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 4: book per se, but get out of here, like he 905 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 4: should be ejected for that, I'm fine with that. With 906 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,839 Speaker 4: that ejection, I'm not sure he should be suspended. It's 907 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 4: not really suspendable offense, even though the NFL might look 908 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 4: at a little harsher because of the situation when it happened, 909 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,839 Speaker 4: which essentially was the first play of the first game 910 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 4: of the season, that the whole world correct so that 911 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 4: there might he might be spent. I don't think he does. 912 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 4: To be honest with you, I don't think he get suspended. 913 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 4: When I was playing in college, We're playing USC and 914 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 4: uh a player spent on me. Really and there, yes, 915 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 4: So now, to be fair, you know, we we we 916 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 4: we hit him. It wasn't dirty, it was in the 917 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 4: middle of the play, but it was a it was 918 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 4: a I get why he was angry with us. I'll 919 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 4: put it like that, like we we we got him good. Okay, 920 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 4: look legal, nothing in the groin, nothing late, all legal, 921 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 4: all legal, buddy, But we got him good. 922 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 2: I understand why he was angry with us. 923 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 4: I'll put it like that, okay, but all legal, okay, 924 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 4: spin in my face. And he made he actually made 925 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 4: the NFL. And we we had a thing going for 926 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 4: years every time we played each other, like we knew 927 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 4: exactly what happened. He would admit it. Either there was 928 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 4: a time when he wouldn't admit it. Eventually he admitted it. 929 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 4: I threw a friend, I knew him, we called him 930 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 4: long whatever matter, he admitted, he admitted he did it. 931 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 4: But man like, that's just like, it's just disrespectful, man 932 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 4: like you, even though this game is played by violent 933 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 4: individuals or guys who have to be violent, right, and 934 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 4: it's very physical. And one thing is so noticeable the 935 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 4: first couple of NFL games compared to college football, just. 936 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,439 Speaker 2: The violence, man Like, the hits are just. 937 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 4: Like you're like, you miss it, right, even you even 938 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 4: seen since February and you've been watching college ball preseason football, 939 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 4: and you see week one and you're like, oh, boy, 940 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 4: is your hit right? It's a lot. It's much of 941 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 4: a sport there still has a mutual respect to the 942 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 4: players and mutual respecting the other coaches and spinning on 943 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 4: someone just sort of breaks that code, right, and you 944 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,359 Speaker 4: just you can't you can't do it. It's one thing 945 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 4: that we, you know, universally players agree upon is that 946 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 4: that is something that you should be check out of 947 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 4: a game for. And he essentially I was suspended a 948 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 4: whole game. He didn't play, you know, he didn't play 949 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 4: the entire entire game. So I think it was right 950 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 4: to throw him out. I hope, I hope he learned 951 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 4: a lesson. I don't think you should be suspended. And 952 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 4: we'll see if he plays against UH, against the Chiefs 953 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 4: this weekend. It's a lesson to learn. You just can't 954 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 4: do it. You just can't do it, man, you just 955 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 4: can't do it. And the Eagles missed him because as 956 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 4: soon as he went out and that defense opened a 957 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 4: way up. 958 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're everything he's built around him. You know. 959 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,399 Speaker 3: We talked about UH the Chiefs and what happened during 960 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. 961 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 2: Well it's because Carter. 962 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 3: Carter was the most impactful player on the field and 963 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 3: didn't have a tackle. 964 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 2: The Chiefs had to double. 965 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,919 Speaker 3: Him and triple him at times, and that allowed for 966 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 3: Josh Sweat to have one on one. He had a 967 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 3: big day with a couple of sacks it allowed for 968 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 3: you know, it's it's gonna allowed. When you collapse the middle, 969 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 3: you know better than anybody, you're gonna have opportunities on 970 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 3: the edge. 971 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 2: And the Eagles don't have a deep edge. 972 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 3: It's why they signed Zadarius Smith yesterday to add to 973 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:35,879 Speaker 3: their edge. 974 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 2: Rush. 975 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 3: Uh, when you look at what Carter means in the 976 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 3: middle of that thing, he's just of De's of beasts. 977 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 4: You can't it's it's it's one of those guys where 978 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 4: it's just like it's so hard to block him. He's 979 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 4: just so big and strong, and it's it's hard, it's 980 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 4: hard to put into words. These guys man there, they're 981 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 4: just like there's so much bigger and stronger than ever before. 982 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 4: And he's of those guys. And the way, so the 983 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,319 Speaker 4: way defense is a little get in the weeds now. 984 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 4: So like when I, again I'm not that old, but 985 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 4: when I when I was in the NFL, you sort 986 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 4: of just rushed over the guy you played against all game, right, 987 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 4: You just that's where it's where you rushed and you 988 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 4: worked one on one and you had battles all game. 989 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 4: And it was obviously it was obviously a lot of 990 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 4: four on five, right, and maybe you bring an extra guy, 991 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 4: but you run twist games all that stuff. Now nowadays, 992 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 4: with the way defenses are designed pass rush wise, it's 993 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 4: really one on ones all over the board, right, they're 994 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,800 Speaker 4: bringing five guys, they're lining, they're moving guys up to 995 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 4: find the best matchups all the time. And that just 996 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,319 Speaker 4: makes it even tougher to to basically guard a guy 997 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 4: like Jalen Carter because he can play over multitude of 998 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 4: guy center guards. I'm sure if you put him at 999 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 4: tackle you can do the same I mean, defensive end, 1000 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 4: you can do the same thing. And there's just no way. 1001 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 4: And then you of course, because where linebackers line up 1002 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,360 Speaker 4: and because of the schemes, you get a lot of 1003 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,399 Speaker 4: one on once and so he's nearly impossible to walk 1004 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 4: one on one dude. He's the type of player and 1005 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 4: so that's what makes him so valuable. And when you 1006 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,800 Speaker 4: lose a guy like that, you just your defense is 1007 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 4: kind of cooked. And again, I though the Cowboys had 1008 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,800 Speaker 4: a really good play in too that was important. The 1009 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,240 Speaker 4: Cowboys played well, that's that's important to note here. 1010 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 3: But Carter eying the thing that was interesting, and Dak 1011 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 3: said it after the game. He's like, listen, when we 1012 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 3: scrapped everything once Carter got kicked out of the game. 1013 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:28,319 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I would too. 1014 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:28,919 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 1015 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, let's face that, they had a 1016 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 3: rookie guard, so you were going to have to account 1017 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 3: for Carter and help, and they didn't have to do that. 1018 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 4: And and Booker played well their guard as well, the 1019 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 4: rookie who we knew, I mean the Cowboys. Look, I'll 1020 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 4: tell you about the cowboy. 1021 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:50,279 Speaker 3: Three Tyler's on the offensive line three times? 1022 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:55,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, no two three y yes, sure, yeah yeah, yeah, 1023 00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 4: yeah yeah yeah, Tyler Guy, Tyler Smith, Tyler Booker. That's funny. 1024 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 4: I actually think about that. They they the Cowboys thing. 1025 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 4: They have done best Oner Jerry Jones, not really best. 1026 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,320 Speaker 4: I mean obviously one one years ago. The last ten years, dude, 1027 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 4: they hit home runs with every first round offensive line 1028 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,399 Speaker 4: when they draft the guys are these guys are very 1029 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 4: very good. So, I mean, Booker will be good eventually, 1030 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 4: and he played really well and so so my takeaway 1031 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 4: from from that early game was, I think the Eagles 1032 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,400 Speaker 4: looked like they should offensively. They're gonna be good on offense. 1033 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 4: I thought, you know, Steam came in there immediately right 1034 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 4: guard looked like he belonged. He had a great block 1035 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 4: on one of the early sake one bark the touchdown runs. 1036 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,240 Speaker 4: One thing I love to do is we got gambling, 1037 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,720 Speaker 4: is uh? I love taking the Eagles back up, running 1038 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 4: back over, rushing yards. I did it with I did 1039 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:53,400 Speaker 4: it with with centers every game last year. Shipley immediately 1040 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 4: went went over. He had like a twenty yard run 1041 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:55,799 Speaker 4: early in the game. 1042 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 2: Like that. 1043 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,720 Speaker 4: Those Eagles, just the way they run the football, the backups, 1044 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 4: you get a ton of carries. Hurts looked under control. 1045 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 4: He looked in command. He looked like he should so. Offensively, 1046 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 4: A just just checked the box for me. And defensively again, 1047 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 4: I think the concern is young in the secondary. Adorri 1048 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 4: Jackson got cooked and the edge rush is a concern 1049 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 4: as of now. 1050 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,400 Speaker 3: So let's go let's go offfense for a second. Let's 1051 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:29,880 Speaker 3: go Jalen right because right away I heard people taking 1052 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 3: shots all the number and put his numbers up. And 1053 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,880 Speaker 3: I keep saying, you know, when you're judging Jalen Hurts, 1054 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,319 Speaker 3: you got to judge him as a point guard, like 1055 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 3: he's never going to have numbers the way you think 1056 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,720 Speaker 3: three hundred yard numbers my Holmes type of numbers. 1057 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 2: That's not what he does. Like, he's not going to 1058 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 2: give you those numbers. 1059 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 3: But he's going to win, like he's gonna he's gonna 1060 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,760 Speaker 3: break your back and run for two touchdowns like he did. 1061 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,040 Speaker 2: Right, He's not going to force the football like I was. 1062 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,240 Speaker 3: Uh, you know, Baldy and I do a thing together, 1063 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,800 Speaker 3: and you know, he had just it was yesterday morning. 1064 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 3: He had spent all morning go through the all twenty 1065 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 3: two and he's like, yeah, it was like Jalen missed 1066 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,840 Speaker 3: a couple of blitz opportunities. 1067 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,320 Speaker 2: To AJ because AJ. 1068 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 3: Brown got zero target at one target at the end 1069 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,760 Speaker 3: of the game, and so there was a big thing, Wow, alcohol. 1070 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 2: He's not getting the ball, blah blah blah. You know. 1071 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 3: You saw because you can actually see him go through 1072 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,319 Speaker 3: his progressives a couple of times where he's looking, he's 1073 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 3: trying to get to AJ. 1074 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 2: He wants to go to AJ, but he doesn't let 1075 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 2: it go. 1076 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 3: And Baldy's point was, there was a couple opportunities where 1077 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 3: you had to you had to see it and you 1078 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 3: had to let it go quick. 1079 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 2: And that's not Jalen's not Jale's not going to do that. 1080 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,000 Speaker 3: But what he is going to do is he's going 1081 00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,720 Speaker 3: to hurt you, right, Like he'll hurt you with his legs. 1082 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 4: Uh Like. 1083 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,320 Speaker 2: I just thought he played a really good for a 1084 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 2: really good game. 1085 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,320 Speaker 4: So so in interesting. So we talked about Herbert earlier, 1086 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,919 Speaker 4: right in discussion about Herbert and and sort of hurts. 1087 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,600 Speaker 4: And this is where I think it's really interesting about 1088 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:16,319 Speaker 4: quarterbacks because there's basically multiple ways to evaluate the guys, right, 1089 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 4: and one of them is, you know, we look at 1090 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,840 Speaker 4: the difference between let's say, arm talent and physical gifts 1091 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 4: throwing the football, and then just sort of what Jalen 1092 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 4: hurts to me is that he means a point guard 1093 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,440 Speaker 4: right playmaker. You look at Herbert, you're like, dude, A 1094 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 4: plus everything right, arm, size, processing, all the stuff, you know. 1095 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 4: But but but the Super Bowl wins are not there, 1096 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 4: the playoffinds are not there. Then you look at Jalen 1097 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 4: and you say, you know, again, if you rank him 1098 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,400 Speaker 4: as a passer, he's not on the top ten in 1099 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,239 Speaker 4: the NFL, right, But but as a point guard, as 1100 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 4: a as a runner of the offense, he's an A. Right, 1101 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 4: He's an A. He's obviously an A. Look at the 1102 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,040 Speaker 4: way he plays in games and even Super Bowl he lost, 1103 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 4: He'd do for three fifty. 1104 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 2: He was a great super Bowl. 1105 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,360 Speaker 4: And so that's difficult that that's the hard part about 1106 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 4: this evaluation is that I don't I think if you 1107 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 4: were starting a team and you are drafting quarterbacks, now, 1108 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,400 Speaker 4: I don't think Herts is like in the it's in 1109 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 4: the top ten. 1110 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 2: If you're going to draft quarterbacks you're talking about yeah, 1111 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 2: just like you're just drafted. 1112 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,080 Speaker 4: Like if you if you're starting the franchise today, right 1113 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 4: and you're drafting quarterbacks Mahomes, Allen Jackson, Burrow, Daniels, maybe 1114 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 4: not Stafford anymore, but you know, you know, is in 1115 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 4: the top ten. 1116 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 3: I think if you just those no, no, I think 1117 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 3: like you rattle off that that five and yeah, like 1118 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,520 Speaker 3: you're right, people would because you're still going to draft 1119 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 3: off of well, Herbert's size arm. 1120 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, you have group, you would have Herbert in the 1121 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 4: group ahead, right, like you. 1122 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 3: Know obviously Jane Daniels, is you know, ridiculous and then 1123 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 3: and then the elites, right yeah, Mahomes Right. 1124 00:55:58,320 --> 00:55:59,840 Speaker 4: So my point is, and I think more than what 1125 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 4: we have a hard time with the evaluation when it 1126 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 4: comes to a quarterback who is just not as as 1127 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 4: great of a thrower of the football as other quarterbacks are. 1128 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 4: And we have a problem in I think with the 1129 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 4: football media and culture of just this game manager, a 1130 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,440 Speaker 4: tag that we give quarterbacks because that's what you're supposed 1131 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 4: to do. 1132 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:27,920 Speaker 2: You'reposed to manage game. 1133 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,280 Speaker 3: And I gotta argue the like the throw thing too, 1134 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 3: because he throws a great Jalen Hurts throws a great 1135 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 3: deep ball. 1136 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:38,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, great deal. 1137 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 3: Like come on the other night, dead deep ball to 1138 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 3: Jahan Dotson was just a bucket throw. I've seen it 1139 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 3: one hundred times and make that throw. He'll make that 1140 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 3: throw outside the numbers all day long. 1141 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1142 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,760 Speaker 4: But I think that you mentioned the point like it's 1143 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 4: some he just to be. I think the quarterback in 1144 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 4: the top top tier of guys, he still misses opportunities 1145 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:09,920 Speaker 4: other guys don't miss. And because of the offense they run, 1146 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,440 Speaker 4: it is a more quarterback friendly offense because the offensive 1147 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:17,480 Speaker 4: line is so good. And again that doesn't mean again, 1148 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:22,440 Speaker 4: that doesn't mean it's bad. I think people game manager bad. No, no, no, 1149 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 4: that mean bad. It just means that you have to 1150 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 4: evaluate him in context of what he's working with and 1151 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,560 Speaker 4: the plays that he makes. And look to be fair. 1152 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 4: He he knows I can throw the ball away, I 1153 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 4: can run for eight yards on third down and punt 1154 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 4: the ball. My defense will take care of men. I 1155 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 4: can get to fourth and two and we'll go for it. 1156 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,320 Speaker 4: He has these advantages built in that allow him to 1157 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,560 Speaker 4: maybe play a different style. If he's on a different team, 1158 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 4: maybe he plays different stylid football as well. 1159 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,440 Speaker 3: So all fair Hurts. 1160 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 2: You can't argue that Hurts. 1161 00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 4: Makes winning plays, and that's what you want from that position. 1162 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,920 Speaker 4: You want a guy to make winning plays. And he 1163 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,960 Speaker 4: is a winning play quarterback. There's no doubt about it. 1164 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 4: And over the years he continues to prove that that 1165 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 4: those qualities are going to keep the Eagles in a 1166 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,320 Speaker 4: lot of games, and they're gonna win a ton of 1167 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 4: games because he's a quarterback that, like a ton of errors, 1168 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,920 Speaker 4: doesn't lose the game for the team, and when it 1169 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,160 Speaker 4: matters most, he's able to run and make enough plays. 1170 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,360 Speaker 4: And so I think that those are to me a 1171 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 4: lot of positives when it comes to Hurts, And I 1172 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 4: don't think he gets credit for all those things. 1173 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I and the way it hit, you know, because everybody, 1174 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,120 Speaker 3: the whole world watched the game right, and the way 1175 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,960 Speaker 3: it hit Friday morning was like people throwing out his 1176 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 3: numbers on social media and I'm like, dude, like why 1177 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,760 Speaker 3: would you throw out his numbers like it's not and 1178 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 3: by the way, you throw these passing numbers, but you 1179 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,880 Speaker 3: ignore the rush numbers and the two touchdowns like he 1180 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 3: scores a bushel of touchdowns a year. Man, I know, 1181 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,520 Speaker 3: like the name the game is to get the ball 1182 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,920 Speaker 3: the end zone, and he does it. That's why I 1183 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,320 Speaker 3: use the point guard label like Magic Johnson, right, like 1184 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,160 Speaker 3: how do you want me to beat you? You want 1185 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,960 Speaker 3: me to beat you by you know, passing it or 1186 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 3: by scoring myself? Like you know, it drives me nuts 1187 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 3: that the kid, because I think the kid's a winner. Listen, 1188 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 3: I don't think he's built like those elites. But if 1189 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,840 Speaker 3: the kid wins, the guy wins, the guy's a winner. 1190 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:31,600 Speaker 2: He definitely is a winner. 1191 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 4: He won in college, he's won in the NFL so far, 1192 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,480 Speaker 4: and he's proven I think every game that he is 1193 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 4: that type of player. Look, they're gonna get a national 1194 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,640 Speaker 4: spotlight this weekend playing the Chiefs. I guess next weekend 1195 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,480 Speaker 4: by now will play the Chiefs again, Like they're gonna 1196 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,880 Speaker 4: have opportunities obviously to continue to sort of prove the 1197 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 4: doubters wrong. And I think I think a lot of times, man, 1198 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,120 Speaker 4: it's really hard for people to just admit they were 1199 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 4: wrong about players and situations. I think people Pigeonholmee Jalen 1200 00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 4: Hurts in a certain role in the NFL, and he's 1201 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 4: done better than that, and it just can't admit that 1202 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,760 Speaker 4: they were wrong about the evaluation. It's not simples too. 1203 01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 4: You say, oh, he's not gonna be good quarterback, he 1204 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,560 Speaker 4: ends up being good. You just can't bring yourself to 1205 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 4: say that we made a mistake on the evaluation. 1206 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right, Uh, sit tight, Sit tight. We're 1207 01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:21,160 Speaker 3: gonna finish the Eagles and Cowboys, the Chiefs and Charges 1208 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:25,160 Speaker 3: will look at head to the NFL. But also want 1209 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,480 Speaker 3: to get to some college today too, because a couple 1210 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:31,520 Speaker 3: of big games Michigan Oklahoma is going to be a 1211 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 3: fun one. And we got to talk about week one 1212 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 3: because you and I didn't get a chance to talk 1213 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 3: about it and set up the stage. 1214 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 2: It was so big. There's a little bit of drop off. 1215 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 3: Of the matchups here in week two, but we'll dive 1216 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:47,280 Speaker 3: into it where the fellas right here on Fox Sports Radio. 1217 01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 1218 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 1219 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,800 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 1220 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:00,760 Speaker 1: listen live all. 1221 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:06,080 Speaker 3: Right, Welcome back, Fellas, Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Garganto Ay. 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Quinton with his 1231 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:56,720 Speaker 3: second touchdown grab of this contest. There was two, so 1232 01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:02,240 Speaker 3: you said two touchdowns for Quentin Johnson plus thirty five hundred. 1233 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,360 Speaker 2: Yep thirty five to one. OW. 1234 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,960 Speaker 4: I don't play touchdown market very much. I feel like 1235 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 4: it's just I never win. I just stay away from it. 1236 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's really been like you get lucky, you find 1237 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 3: the back like you find a receiver, you fight somebody, 1238 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:18,960 Speaker 3: those like two and three touchdowns. 1239 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,000 Speaker 2: You know, if you get lucky, you can have a 1240 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:21,480 Speaker 2: big day. 1241 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,800 Speaker 4: Oh heck yeah yeah, man, you put one hundred bucks 1242 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 4: in that. Yeah, you're go ten dollars your return on 1243 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:34,080 Speaker 4: that's awesome. So exactly, that's obviously a great way. 1244 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,040 Speaker 2: But going in the way like let you go. 1245 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,760 Speaker 3: If you're gonna size up the charges receivers, you're going, 1246 01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,920 Speaker 3: all right, well, lad mcconckany's. 1247 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,880 Speaker 2: Gonna get his and maybe you know. 1248 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:47,200 Speaker 3: Disley Trey Harris, you know you're not gonna trust Quentin Johnson. 1249 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:51,160 Speaker 2: You know you're gonna go to get two let alone one? Correct. 1250 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:57,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, good stuff. All right, let's go over uh 1251 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,960 Speaker 3: week one college. You and I did not get a 1252 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:05,400 Speaker 3: chance to know talk about it, and it's important because 1253 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:07,920 Speaker 3: it kind of sets the stage for today. 1254 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,560 Speaker 2: So let's kind of go through. 1255 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,480 Speaker 3: It in some of the big games and kind of 1256 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:13,840 Speaker 3: what you saw. 1257 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:18,680 Speaker 4: All right, so look ahead. No, I think it was 1258 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,400 Speaker 4: a really fun Week one. I think what we saw is, 1259 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,520 Speaker 4: you know a lot of teams with with hype struggled 1260 01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:30,000 Speaker 4: a little bit, which is normal for week one. I 1261 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,240 Speaker 4: think we forget sometimes that that that can't be what 1262 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,800 Speaker 4: happens in week one. I think what's interesting is we 1263 01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:38,600 Speaker 4: saw just saw a lot of low scoring games, defenses 1264 01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:42,400 Speaker 4: playing a lot of basically two shell and saying like, look, 1265 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,280 Speaker 4: we're not gonna let these offenses beat us down the field. 1266 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,240 Speaker 4: I thought that was pretty pretty fascinating for game one 1267 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:55,720 Speaker 4: and we saw to me, you know, some some offenses 1268 01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 4: take some time to get going, which is what week 1269 01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 4: one is about. A lot of teams just took a 1270 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:03,600 Speaker 4: little bit of time to kind of get going. I 1271 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,960 Speaker 4: think that week two, we know in football, between week 1272 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 4: one and week two typically is a really important week 1273 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,320 Speaker 4: for growth. I think we're gonna see that again in 1274 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,240 Speaker 4: this week and that it's a dude, it's a long 1275 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,040 Speaker 4: season now. Man, It's not like it used to be, 1276 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,320 Speaker 4: and teams a week one are not gonna be with 1277 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,880 Speaker 4: there in week twelve and thirteen. And we should just 1278 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,760 Speaker 4: understand that when it comes to college football, it's mark 1279 01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,480 Speaker 4: the n I found that it's a long, long season, 1280 01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 4: and we're gonna have situations where teams start slow and 1281 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,120 Speaker 4: it will not matter to the end result because guess what, 1282 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,160 Speaker 4: there's a twelve team playoff now. So a lot of 1283 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,800 Speaker 4: fun action I was wrong about I think some teams. 1284 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,360 Speaker 4: I think I was kind of disappointed in the way 1285 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:43,200 Speaker 4: Clemson played. 1286 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 3: Well, let's go through each of the game. Yeah, right, 1287 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,720 Speaker 3: go ahead, let's do that this way. We'll go kind 1288 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,760 Speaker 3: of go in order from Saturday. Okay, and. 1289 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:55,880 Speaker 2: So early you. 1290 01:04:55,880 --> 01:05:02,760 Speaker 3: Mentioned Clemson, LSU, Clemson, So let's start there, because I 1291 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,520 Speaker 3: think everybody felt the same thing we were. Everybody was 1292 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:10,520 Speaker 3: excited Clemson LSU is gonna be no smart against club 1293 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:14,960 Speaker 3: Nick and it was the whole dabbo. Hey, you know, 1294 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:19,280 Speaker 3: the referendum on the not going through the portal and 1295 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:23,360 Speaker 3: a lot of hype on Clemson, and really what stood 1296 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:27,440 Speaker 3: out was the LSU defense looking like the LSU defensive old. 1297 01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. So that to me is I think if we're 1298 01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:35,480 Speaker 4: to have one takeaway, it's it's that. It's that, you know, 1299 01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,480 Speaker 4: there were questions about LSU's defensive rebuild and what they're 1300 01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,760 Speaker 4: going to be this season, and we saw really and 1301 01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,720 Speaker 4: this was this point in me about Clemson, as Clemson 1302 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,760 Speaker 4: would turned the most offense in the country, and you 1303 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,360 Speaker 4: would expect, in my opinion, a little better play, especially 1304 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,560 Speaker 4: on the offensive line, and that's been issue, you know, 1305 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,040 Speaker 4: for gods, Clemson has been interesting. First goods Clemson has 1306 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,080 Speaker 4: been They have not been grant on the offensive line 1307 01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,680 Speaker 4: over the years, and this is the year, especially come 1308 01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,720 Speaker 4: off lilast year, when you expected that to happen. And again, 1309 01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,040 Speaker 4: to be fair, you know, it's it's hard week one 1310 01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:06,960 Speaker 4: when you really have played just your team, and I 1311 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,400 Speaker 4: guess Clemsons defensive lines is really good. Peter Woods right 1312 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,160 Speaker 4: now like number one player in most mock drafts. So 1313 01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:15,880 Speaker 4: maybe not the greatest take of mine, but the idea 1314 01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,560 Speaker 4: is that you know, week one, it takes a little 1315 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,280 Speaker 4: bit of time to pass, protect and learn how to 1316 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,920 Speaker 4: play in a live situation and against a team like LSU. 1317 01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:25,520 Speaker 4: But I think to me, if LSU's defense is going 1318 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 4: to play this well, their offense will find their footing 1319 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:29,920 Speaker 4: throughout the season. I'm not concerned about their offense. They 1320 01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:31,640 Speaker 4: have a good quarterback to have good being getting on 1321 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,360 Speaker 4: Brian Kelly, but they're gonna if they're going to play 1322 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,560 Speaker 4: this well defensively, watch out. They're gonna be a top team. 1323 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:43,400 Speaker 4: And and Clemson, look, the loss uh disappointing. Again, when 1324 01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,160 Speaker 4: you returned as much production as they did, I think 1325 01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:46,760 Speaker 4: you would expect there to be a little. 1326 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,520 Speaker 2: Bit better, a little bit better. 1327 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:53,080 Speaker 4: But but but they play at a conference that's the joke, 1328 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:55,240 Speaker 4: and they're gonna be just they'll be a playoff team. 1329 01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 4: I'm unconcerned about where they're gonna end up. But I 1330 01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:02,400 Speaker 4: was disappointed in the way the offense showed up against LSU, 1331 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,040 Speaker 4: knowing full well that we should give Alex Defense a 1332 01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:06,000 Speaker 4: credit in this right. 1333 01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:10,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Club Nick, I don't know, dude. I 1334 01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:11,680 Speaker 3: know he gets a lot of it, gets a lot 1335 01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:12,000 Speaker 3: of love. 1336 01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was. 1337 01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:19,680 Speaker 4: Sort of the top quarterbacks of the twenty twenty six 1338 01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,640 Speaker 4: draft all didn't didn't. 1339 01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:23,040 Speaker 2: Really play well. 1340 01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:25,960 Speaker 3: I mean, no, smart gives you a couple of flashs 1341 01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,160 Speaker 3: like I like, you see, you know he's he's going 1342 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,560 Speaker 3: to be. I mean, he's legit like he's going to 1343 01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,600 Speaker 3: be going to be good. Club Nick, I just don't. 1344 01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,400 Speaker 3: I don't know how well he translates that next level. 1345 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 4: It's fair, it's a fair it's a fair criticism of 1346 01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:44,160 Speaker 4: of him. I don't see it with him at times 1347 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,280 Speaker 4: as far as like the type of pro player that 1348 01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 4: people want him to be and a couple hole season 1349 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:50,880 Speaker 4: to figure out and think about the NFL Draft. That 1350 01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:52,840 Speaker 4: makes it really difficult for us to us. I think 1351 01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,840 Speaker 4: to evaluate is that you know, NFL teams draft a 1352 01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,520 Speaker 4: lot off traits and we just don't really get to 1353 01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:03,360 Speaker 4: see the inner workings of traits. Sitting where the chairs 1354 01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,919 Speaker 4: were in now, you know, teams obviously get a better 1355 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:09,200 Speaker 4: evaluation of what those traits can be. They talked to coaches, 1356 01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,120 Speaker 4: they watch the film, they know the intangibles. We don't 1357 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,360 Speaker 4: know those things, but there seems to be you know, 1358 01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,479 Speaker 4: club Nick has sort of looked at as a guy 1359 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,640 Speaker 4: that I think we agree like there's a lot to 1360 01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,759 Speaker 4: get better at. Before we put him in that quarterback 1361 01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,920 Speaker 4: one conversation, na Smart looked a little more complete. He 1362 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,040 Speaker 4: was playing on the road as well, which is important 1363 01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,920 Speaker 4: here to the context of playing at Death Valley that 1364 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:34,240 Speaker 4: early the season, so very pressed with the LSU. That's 1365 01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:35,559 Speaker 4: my takeaway from that game. 1366 01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:42,040 Speaker 3: Let's go to the game everybody talked about. You know, 1367 01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,880 Speaker 3: the one thing I get it, it's kind of human nature. 1368 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:49,559 Speaker 3: Because arch Manning got all the hype, the fact that 1369 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:53,120 Speaker 3: he failed or not failed, the fact that he played 1370 01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:53,760 Speaker 3: a poor game. 1371 01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:57,680 Speaker 2: You know, everybody has to jump in and the. 1372 01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:02,080 Speaker 3: Social media afterwards shits ridiculous, But you know, it's kind 1373 01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:02,920 Speaker 3: of human nature. 1374 01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:03,959 Speaker 2: Whatever. 1375 01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,640 Speaker 3: Look at the end, I felt the kid made a 1376 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,880 Speaker 3: couple of plays, you know, I had to one drive. 1377 01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,240 Speaker 3: He's going to be fine in my eyes, curious to 1378 01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,840 Speaker 3: what you think. And he was going up against a 1379 01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:21,400 Speaker 3: terrific Ohio State team. Yeah, and Matt Patricia, Matt is 1380 01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:22,760 Speaker 3: a good coach man. 1381 01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:26,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's smart guy. 1382 01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,559 Speaker 4: So this one, to me is a very interesting game 1383 01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,240 Speaker 4: Ohio State. Quickly, I thought, that's what we get from 1384 01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,880 Speaker 4: Ohio State. Right, they have a new quarterback, based on 1385 01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,519 Speaker 4: new offensive line, new running backs, new offensive coordinator. That's 1386 01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:40,880 Speaker 4: what I thought we'd see from them. Offensively, that their 1387 01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:44,759 Speaker 4: their game not surprising at all. Defensively though, they replaced 1388 01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:46,720 Speaker 4: seven starters I believe it was. And then there were 1389 01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:50,120 Speaker 4: playing a lot of a lot of players that are 1390 01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:54,280 Speaker 4: really good, Like there were important pivotal players for them 1391 01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,960 Speaker 4: last season. Now they replaced those players with more five stars. 1392 01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,839 Speaker 4: So I don't feel that die bad for them. Texas, 1393 01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,080 Speaker 4: though had to replace four offensive linemen like that. There 1394 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,400 Speaker 4: were some things for them that were against you know, 1395 01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,559 Speaker 4: sort of them in this game playing on the road. 1396 01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,960 Speaker 4: But I don't look to me, Ohio State is not 1397 01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,920 Speaker 4: a home field advantage that is any greater than anyone 1398 01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,479 Speaker 4: than anywhere else. They they win a lot of games 1399 01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,559 Speaker 4: at home because they're better than everyone else, not because 1400 01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,200 Speaker 4: they're they're their home atmospheres that great. I wasn't like 1401 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 4: the arch manning on the road. I that to me 1402 01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:25,280 Speaker 4: is was not important. But he didn't look comfortable early on, 1403 01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,720 Speaker 4: and that I think is where you would have liked 1404 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,960 Speaker 4: to see that a little bit, just a little a 1405 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,639 Speaker 4: little more comfortable early in the game, and he wasn't. 1406 01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,960 Speaker 4: Now to your point, he got better throughout the game. Texas, 1407 01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:38,439 Speaker 4: by the way, they're favored by thirty six and a 1408 01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,519 Speaker 4: half against sam As. They said, I take I took Texas. 1409 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:42,679 Speaker 4: I think Texas is gonna smoke them today, Like they're 1410 01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:46,640 Speaker 4: just gonna they're gonna take all their ring outs today. Right, 1411 01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,559 Speaker 4: They're still a good team. If they were to play 1412 01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:52,920 Speaker 4: again today, odds makers who don't have no emotion, right, 1413 01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,880 Speaker 4: they're they're just they're they're just making you know, they're 1414 01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,360 Speaker 4: just putting up lines. They would have to is a 1415 01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,799 Speaker 4: favorite against Ohio State today if they played still, Texas 1416 01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,800 Speaker 4: is still really good. They're gonna be fine, man, They're 1417 01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:10,200 Speaker 4: gonna be fine. It's gonna be okay. Yeah, listen, I'm 1418 01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:14,400 Speaker 4: with you. I'm with you all day long. And again, 1419 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,200 Speaker 4: you know, Julian's saying he made some nice plays. 1420 01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:20,760 Speaker 2: I listened. I think they're in a good spot. They're again, 1421 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:21,719 Speaker 2: they're loaded again. 1422 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,840 Speaker 3: And I've thought Patricia is gonna be a really good 1423 01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:27,000 Speaker 3: defensive coordinator for them. 1424 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:31,200 Speaker 2: I mean, he's a brilliant dude, and you know, with 1425 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,519 Speaker 2: that team and they're good, I mean that's just kind 1426 01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,800 Speaker 2: of what it is, Patricia, They're really good. 1427 01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,960 Speaker 4: I think it's fair to be a little a little 1428 01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,960 Speaker 4: bit skeptical Patricia because it's a different job than the NFL, 1429 01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:44,880 Speaker 4: and he hasn't done this before, and so I think 1430 01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:46,400 Speaker 4: it was okay to be like, is this the is 1431 01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:47,000 Speaker 4: this the guy? Like? 1432 01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:48,519 Speaker 2: Is he is he? Is he the right guy for this? 1433 01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:50,360 Speaker 2: So I get the skepticism. 1434 01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:53,280 Speaker 4: I totally do. But he proved in week one he's 1435 01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,160 Speaker 4: very ready for this job. That they they did as 1436 01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,679 Speaker 4: they did a very very good job just schematically trying 1437 01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,400 Speaker 4: to find different ways to you know, unique and different looks. 1438 01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:03,080 Speaker 4: So I think they did a really good job. I'm 1439 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,839 Speaker 4: very impressed with uh, with with with Patricia. 1440 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:11,400 Speaker 2: All right, let's keep going, and you know, I tell 1441 01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:15,799 Speaker 2: you Georgia is going to be a problem. 1442 01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,240 Speaker 3: Georgie is going and I know it's Marshall the opening week, 1443 01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:24,000 Speaker 3: but nobody's talking about and nobody. 1444 01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:28,800 Speaker 2: Kirby's like just laying low. They got studs, dude, they was, 1445 01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:29,479 Speaker 2: They're always good. 1446 01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:31,200 Speaker 4: It just depends that it's the same with a bunch 1447 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:32,120 Speaker 4: of these teams, Like they just have. 1448 01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:33,719 Speaker 2: To win the three games that we care about. 1449 01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, but nobody, nobody went in to tout in Georgia, 1450 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,240 Speaker 3: Georgie and George and Georgia, Georgia not like the last 1451 01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:43,200 Speaker 3: couple of years. I think as a as the fifth 1452 01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,639 Speaker 3: number five team in the country, they're they're under talked about. 1453 01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:53,840 Speaker 4: Uh, probably because I we just got our stocked and 1454 01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:55,160 Speaker 4: I don't think excites a lot of people. 1455 01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's more than other people. I don't know. 1456 01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,240 Speaker 3: I I think they're gonna be good. I think they're 1457 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:07,519 Speaker 3: gonna be dominant. All right, coming back, coming up trouble 1458 01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:13,280 Speaker 3: in Bama. All right, Oh my, not great, buddy. I 1459 01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,439 Speaker 3: had a guy tell me about Simpson. I'll share it 1460 01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:20,439 Speaker 3: with you. Oh it's not good, pretty damning. Oh my, 1461 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:25,759 Speaker 3: where the fellas we're hanging out? Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Garganta 1462 01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:27,519 Speaker 3: right here on Fox Sports Radio. 1463 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,639 Speaker 2: Welcome back, Fellas football is back. 1464 01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,680 Speaker 3: Yes, for the best pregame show every weekend, be sure 1465 01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:38,160 Speaker 3: to tune into Fox Sports Radios Countdown and Kickoff presented 1466 01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,880 Speaker 3: by Benmgm every Saturday Sunday morning, going to count you 1467 01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:44,160 Speaker 3: down to all the biggest games for three hours right 1468 01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:47,160 Speaker 3: up until kickoff for all the best plays and up 1469 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,000 Speaker 3: to the second injury news. Tuning in a Countdown to 1470 01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:53,000 Speaker 3: Kickoff presented by Bet mgm every Saturday and Sunday morning 1471 01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:57,240 Speaker 3: right here on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app. Hey, 1472 01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,720 Speaker 3: before we get to Bama, because did we need to 1473 01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,080 Speaker 3: do that? And the rest of the college football I 1474 01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:04,280 Speaker 3: have to ask you a question. There's a violation question. 1475 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,760 Speaker 3: So there was a baseball game last night. It was 1476 01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:10,240 Speaker 3: Marlin's and Phillies. 1477 01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:14,400 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, just yes, that lady. That lady said, I 1478 01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:16,400 Speaker 4: don't know what gonna happen to that woman. She says, 1479 01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,240 Speaker 4: Karma's gonna come her her way. It's not going to 1480 01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:18,599 Speaker 4: be good. 1481 01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:21,400 Speaker 2: So let me set the state. Let me set the 1482 01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:22,360 Speaker 2: states for the audience. 1483 01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,479 Speaker 3: Right, So there is a foul ball and you know 1484 01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:32,680 Speaker 3: it bounced, and even these situations where the ball bounces right, 1485 01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,320 Speaker 3: and you got like a group of people standing there 1486 01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:37,479 Speaker 3: and they're all reaching for the ball. 1487 01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,639 Speaker 2: Well, this dude is the first one. 1488 01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:44,479 Speaker 3: He snatches the ball, he raises it up and then 1489 01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,960 Speaker 3: he goes to his son and he gives the ball 1490 01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:51,920 Speaker 3: right to his boy, and the boy smiling, and you 1491 01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:53,840 Speaker 3: know it's a beautiful moment, right whatever. 1492 01:14:54,840 --> 01:15:00,479 Speaker 6: Well, this woman true all right, that she is aaron, 1493 01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:06,000 Speaker 6: that she is comes over and starts beading this dude 1494 01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:10,160 Speaker 6: to the point where he takes the ball from the 1495 01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:16,920 Speaker 6: kid's glove and gives her the ball, and it just 1496 01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:17,960 Speaker 6: in sets me. 1497 01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,800 Speaker 3: Now, the Marlins, God blessed them, did the right thing. 1498 01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,760 Speaker 3: They were great. They gave the kid all kinds of 1499 01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:24,680 Speaker 3: chots keys and. 1500 01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:29,280 Speaker 4: Then he's a Phillies fan though, so I appreciate what 1501 01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:30,040 Speaker 4: to get. 1502 01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,040 Speaker 3: Like Harrison Baterer's autograph and the sign ball from Allison 1503 01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:36,240 Speaker 3: Bader like the Philly like did Marlin's got the Phillies 1504 01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:38,920 Speaker 3: a step up, And so the kid was able to, 1505 01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:42,000 Speaker 3: you know, to get some stuff. But this woman's all 1506 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,400 Speaker 3: over social media, so you gotta guys gotta check it out. 1507 01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,600 Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, brother, I was like, are you 1508 01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,280 Speaker 3: kidding me? With this lady, I would have told her 1509 01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,880 Speaker 3: to go bleep herself seven ways from Sunday, get the 1510 01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:55,760 Speaker 3: hell out of here. 1511 01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,479 Speaker 2: You're not getting near them. But the kids, my kid's 1512 01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,960 Speaker 2: ball beat it, Karen. 1513 01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:08,040 Speaker 4: So the dad came from about what like seven seats 1514 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,400 Speaker 4: over and got the foul ball when it and look 1515 01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:15,640 Speaker 4: again it No one's entitled to a ball. And you know, 1516 01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,400 Speaker 4: he seemed like, and some of us are non confrontational, right, 1517 01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:19,880 Speaker 4: just seemed like for him it was like, I'm this 1518 01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:21,920 Speaker 4: lady's yelling at me, like here, it must matter a 1519 01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:23,880 Speaker 4: lot to you take the ball. I have a firm 1520 01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,320 Speaker 4: policy when it comes to foul balls or home run 1521 01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:31,240 Speaker 4: balls adults, unless it is like a special ball, like 1522 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,920 Speaker 4: the player has a milestone at bat and the ball 1523 01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,040 Speaker 4: is yours to keep, or you know, it's a game 1524 01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:40,680 Speaker 4: winning home run something like that, that you should as 1525 01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,080 Speaker 4: an adult, if you catch a foul ball, you should 1526 01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:46,360 Speaker 4: give it to the nearest kid. Yes, every single time. 1527 01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,599 Speaker 4: I don't care what, I don't care. You don't need 1528 01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:52,280 Speaker 4: an one foul ball hit by show Halo Tani. Give 1529 01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:53,840 Speaker 4: it to the kid every single time. 1530 01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:54,519 Speaker 2: Give it to the kid. 1531 01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:57,760 Speaker 4: And this lady again, I don't know what words I 1532 01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:59,559 Speaker 4: can and I cannot use on Terresto Radio, so I'll 1533 01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:03,479 Speaker 4: just stay away from saying anything. But like this lady, 1534 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:08,240 Speaker 4: you're now famous for the wrong reasons. Congratulations, all for 1535 01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:10,600 Speaker 4: all for it was a home runner, all for a 1536 01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,479 Speaker 4: home run baseball in a Marlins Phillies game. And I understand, 1537 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,040 Speaker 4: I understand the pushback of this might be the only 1538 01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,599 Speaker 4: game she's ever been to and blah blah blah. Okay, great, 1539 01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,200 Speaker 4: you're an adult. Okay, give the ball to the kid. 1540 01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:22,479 Speaker 2: Man. 1541 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,160 Speaker 4: Okay, are you gonna put the Are you gonna put 1542 01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,360 Speaker 4: the baseball on the mantle at your house? 1543 01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:27,600 Speaker 2: No? 1544 01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,600 Speaker 4: But guess what, your kid. That kid is going to 1545 01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:34,719 Speaker 4: love that baseball. Like my kids, it goes in their room, 1546 01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,559 Speaker 4: they talk about it. They you know, they bring up 1547 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,040 Speaker 4: their friends like it's a big moment for these kids, 1548 01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,960 Speaker 4: the opportunity to just get a baseball, man, and for 1549 01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,639 Speaker 4: you to ruin the opportunity because your selfishness and your 1550 01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,479 Speaker 4: need to be the center of attention to me is wrong. 1551 01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:51,920 Speaker 4: And I hope this lady gets famous for the wrong reasons. 1552 01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,720 Speaker 4: And you know she she just gets it's coming first. 1553 01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,080 Speaker 4: The karma on this one's gonna be bad, very bad 1554 01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,599 Speaker 4: for this lady, and she does. 1555 01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,599 Speaker 3: I gotta tell you I was I saw the when 1556 01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:06,560 Speaker 3: I saw the interaction, I couldn't believe it. 1557 01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,160 Speaker 2: Now, First of all, the rule and. 1558 01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:12,439 Speaker 3: There is a rule, right, if you go to baseball games, 1559 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:17,599 Speaker 3: there's a rule. The ball bounces. Yeah, it's free game, right, 1560 01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:20,400 Speaker 3: Like I'm with you on to give it to the 1561 01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:23,479 Speaker 3: nearest kid, right, it's free game. Like the guy didn't 1562 01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:27,240 Speaker 3: do anything wrong and for her to behave that way, 1563 01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:35,080 Speaker 3: and you know, listen, I hate to be like judge people. 1564 01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:37,920 Speaker 2: Udge. 1565 01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:42,200 Speaker 3: You can judge her, yeah, but like I mean, I 1566 01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:47,160 Speaker 3: could just imagine this woman. This woman looks like a nightmare. Right, 1567 01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:51,320 Speaker 3: always got something to like, you know, the archetype's got 1568 01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:56,160 Speaker 3: something to say, her opinion you want. You know what 1569 01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:59,040 Speaker 3: drives me nounces like the people that are so pious 1570 01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:05,800 Speaker 3: and yet they're they're not nice, right, Like, what are 1571 01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,639 Speaker 3: you doing? You're supposed to be all holder than now 1572 01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,640 Speaker 3: and yet you're not even nice and you think you 1573 01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:12,360 Speaker 3: don't even. 1574 01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,040 Speaker 2: See the other side of your belief system. 1575 01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,000 Speaker 3: I hate people like I gotta tell you, a kid 1576 01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,719 Speaker 3: stand it and her face she's I hate the face 1577 01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:22,760 Speaker 3: like people look at you kids stand there. 1578 01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:24,920 Speaker 4: You know, her profile on social media is gonna be 1579 01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:29,320 Speaker 4: like mother, yes, and you know out of religion pronouns, yeah, 1580 01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,560 Speaker 4: out of religion in there you know, you'll say like, 1581 01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:34,840 Speaker 4: and she doesn't act that way at all in public. 1582 01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,759 Speaker 4: So I'm glad they made the kid hole. He deserves 1583 01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:39,400 Speaker 4: it because that's that's his ball to have. 1584 01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:43,200 Speaker 3: Yes, I just felt so bad for that kid. And 1585 01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,720 Speaker 3: and listen, you're right like the fathers. You know, the 1586 01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:47,680 Speaker 3: father is just like, oh my god, the way he 1587 01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:49,439 Speaker 3: reacted once he came up, he. 1588 01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:52,599 Speaker 2: Like he shuck, you say it, shuck. 1589 01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,320 Speaker 4: My wife would have maybe punched that woman in the face. 1590 01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, your wife would in my mind too. Fellas right here, 1591 01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:08,000 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Sports Radio Radio, that's us. Good morning, 1592 01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:09,599 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning. 1593 01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:14,720 Speaker 3: At seven am in the east sunrise upon us kickoff 1594 01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:21,800 Speaker 3: Week two in college football about to commence at noontime. 1595 01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:25,439 Speaker 2: We'll go through some of your games for it noon. 1596 01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:34,560 Speaker 3: Penn State, which looking pretty formidable against Nevada, but nonetheless, Penn. 1597 01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:37,800 Speaker 2: State looks like it's uh, it's got you know, it's 1598 01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:38,680 Speaker 2: got the goods. Right. 1599 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,680 Speaker 3: You got a great backfield, perhaps the best backfield in 1600 01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:46,599 Speaker 3: the country, along with Notre Dame and uh, Drew Allen, you're. 1601 01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:49,360 Speaker 4: Just waiting to see them play Orgon. Same with Oregon. 1602 01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:54,160 Speaker 4: You're just that's the week five. Somehow, somehow, Pennstanihill has 1603 01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:55,800 Speaker 4: a buye before they get to play Orgon at home 1604 01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:56,800 Speaker 4: in a white out. 1605 01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,759 Speaker 2: That must they also have a bye before they play Ohio. 1606 01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,680 Speaker 4: So's Ohio state, though they both have a buy so 1607 01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,400 Speaker 4: that that's fair. But Oregon traveling across the country to 1608 01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,439 Speaker 4: play a whiteout game with pensan off a bye feels 1609 01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,360 Speaker 4: like the like, But the cars aren't really aren't really Uh, 1610 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:16,599 Speaker 4: I don't really square here. But nonetheless, nonetheless, we're gonna 1611 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:20,120 Speaker 4: have a wager you and I on that game, squads 1612 01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:21,760 Speaker 4: going at it. You're gonna give me like I mean, 1613 01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:23,960 Speaker 4: I guess the spreader like I think. I think it's 1614 01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:25,400 Speaker 4: a tough game for us. I've said all along, I 1615 01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:28,400 Speaker 4: don't think we win that game, and I think it's 1616 01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:32,439 Speaker 4: just a tough Oh yeah, we'll do dinner. I think Oregon. 1617 01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,200 Speaker 4: I've not been this excited for an Oregon team in 1618 01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:40,680 Speaker 4: quite a few years. I think last year obviously, I 1619 01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:44,000 Speaker 4: was excited because I thought we had a chance to 1620 01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:48,479 Speaker 4: win a championship, but I knew that our our talent 1621 01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:50,760 Speaker 4: depth was probably not there. I didn't I didn't think 1622 01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,040 Speaker 4: Gabriel was good enough to lead us to a championship. 1623 01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:57,880 Speaker 4: This year's team is super young. We have twenty guys 1624 01:21:57,960 --> 01:21:59,680 Speaker 4: we played in Week one that are either first or 1625 01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:03,320 Speaker 4: second your players that had not played before, including starting 1626 01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:09,320 Speaker 4: two freshmen, two true freshman wide receivers, and two freshman cornerbacks. 1627 01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:17,080 Speaker 4: But buddy, our team is is. It ain't happened this year, 1628 01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:18,880 Speaker 4: but we can get. If we get Dante more to 1629 01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:22,519 Speaker 4: stay one more year, next year, we're gonna We're gonna 1630 01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:24,600 Speaker 4: be in that championship game. I we we are that 1631 01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,559 Speaker 4: good and so this year is a building year for us. 1632 01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:29,720 Speaker 4: For That's why I think the Penn State game is 1633 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:31,599 Speaker 4: gonna be tough to play. That game on the road 1634 01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:36,400 Speaker 4: is really our our environment. No offense to to Northwestern, 1635 01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:39,920 Speaker 4: who we play next weekend. I'm gonna be there. I 1636 01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:41,680 Speaker 4: text you about. I don't know if I'll be on 1637 01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,120 Speaker 4: the show next week, depending on sort of right right, 1638 01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:45,639 Speaker 4: I'll be in Chicago to watch. 1639 01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:45,960 Speaker 5: Uh. 1640 01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:47,400 Speaker 2: This is the The benefit for. 1641 01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:49,519 Speaker 4: Me is the East Coast Oregon fan of the Big 1642 01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:53,160 Speaker 4: Ten move is the ability to watch them play on 1643 01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:55,200 Speaker 4: the East coast. I'm gonna go, I know, the East coast. 1644 01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:58,200 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go Chicago next weekend to watch organ play Northwestern. 1645 01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:00,639 Speaker 4: We're really good, so I'm looking for that Penn State 1646 01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:01,200 Speaker 4: Oregon game. 1647 01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,240 Speaker 2: Northwest is a pretty good team too. They rolled last night. 1648 01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,240 Speaker 3: They stink well, you know, I mean, I'm not I 1649 01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:09,519 Speaker 3: think Oregon's gonna win. I'm not saying it like that, 1650 01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:12,120 Speaker 3: but I'm you know, they're not bad. If they're not 1651 01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,559 Speaker 3: a bid, you know, kind of second tier Big ten team, 1652 01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,599 Speaker 3: they're you're being very nice. It's okay to be mean. 1653 01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:22,040 Speaker 3: They're not very good. Let's be honest. 1654 01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:23,920 Speaker 4: Orgon's gonna win that game by fourtowns. 1655 01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:27,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think Oregon was by, you know, comfortably. 1656 01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:31,200 Speaker 3: But Malley point is that they're better than they used 1657 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:32,599 Speaker 3: than they normally are. 1658 01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:34,559 Speaker 2: You know. Sure, they did lose. 1659 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,240 Speaker 4: Twenty three to three in Week one, though, so I 1660 01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:40,240 Speaker 4: don't Yeah, someone who was, I guess, but no less 1661 01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:42,680 Speaker 4: so Penn State today forty one and a half. I 1662 01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:46,479 Speaker 4: think as a number. Yeah, when James Franklin is a 1663 01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:51,840 Speaker 4: favorite the head coach between seven and nineteen points, I 1664 01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:55,040 Speaker 4: believe it's twenty. It's nineteen and one. Against the spread 1665 01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:56,120 Speaker 4: in his career Penn State. 1666 01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:01,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they'll do the same thing today. They'll they'll 1667 01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:05,360 Speaker 3: cover that number. That'll be a big one. I mean mosten, 1668 01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,040 Speaker 3: they're gonna be good. We'll see, Like you said, you know, 1669 01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:09,880 Speaker 3: youve got a couple of games that you were gonna 1670 01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:13,479 Speaker 3: that you'll be judged on in Oregon, I mean Ohio 1671 01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:18,320 Speaker 3: State and in Oregon, Oregon in Nebraska. Yeah, so let's 1672 01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:20,320 Speaker 3: let's you know, kind of see. But I do think 1673 01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:23,840 Speaker 3: they're they're gonna be good. Uh and and all these 1674 01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,880 Speaker 3: teams are playing, you know, this is the layup week 1675 01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:32,240 Speaker 3: Texas San Jose State. You love Texas today minus the 1676 01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,040 Speaker 3: thirty seven and a half I got. 1677 01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,640 Speaker 4: I got thirty six and a half. But yes, I 1678 01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,840 Speaker 4: I like them a lot, so I I this year 1679 01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:44,720 Speaker 4: this would be fun to do. I I played the 1680 01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:50,519 Speaker 4: Westgate the Super Book College Football contest this year, so 1681 01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,639 Speaker 4: it's it's seven picks. It gets the spread every week, 1682 01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:56,000 Speaker 4: which is a lot for college football. And I was 1683 01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:59,640 Speaker 4: four and three last week, so winning week. And I 1684 01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:01,920 Speaker 4: have an interesting card this week, so be funny. We 1685 01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:03,400 Speaker 4: can maybe do it every Saturday. I could give you 1686 01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:03,880 Speaker 4: my myself. 1687 01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:04,760 Speaker 2: I love it. 1688 01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:08,160 Speaker 4: I love it, yeah, man, and so it's a it'd 1689 01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:09,600 Speaker 4: be a lot of fun this year to play in 1690 01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:11,519 Speaker 4: that contest. First year I've done a contest like this, 1691 01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:13,920 Speaker 4: and uh, the thing about it is it like it's 1692 01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:15,720 Speaker 4: so hard to win. I mean I went, you know, 1693 01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:17,600 Speaker 4: I went four and three last week. That put me 1694 01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:20,080 Speaker 4: like tied for one hundred and thirtieth after one week. 1695 01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:24,560 Speaker 4: You gotta got many people in the contest. I don't know. 1696 01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:28,559 Speaker 4: I think I saw like nine hundred yeah, yeah, five hundred, 1697 01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,760 Speaker 4: five hundred dollars entry. So yeah, got one of those. 1698 01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:33,519 Speaker 4: So it'd be uh yeah, it should be fun year 1699 01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:35,160 Speaker 4: for it for the content. I put Texas in my 1700 01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:39,320 Speaker 4: contest this week. I think Texas, Look, I get it, 1701 01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:42,160 Speaker 4: last week was rough. They're back at home this week 1702 01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:46,760 Speaker 4: and they're angry after that loss. And Texas over the 1703 01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:52,280 Speaker 4: years has smoked opponents in this spot. Go look at 1704 01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,320 Speaker 4: the scores from the last couple of years. Forty nine nothing, 1705 01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:58,600 Speaker 4: fifty six to seven. Say, lost sixteen to fourteen to 1706 01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:03,360 Speaker 4: Central Michigan last weekend and they had three turnovers and 1707 01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:05,120 Speaker 4: missed a couple of field goals. I think this is 1708 01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:10,600 Speaker 4: a classic like rebound spot for Texas. Uh to to 1709 01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,200 Speaker 4: just get the party started right and early to twelve 1710 01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:16,760 Speaker 4: twelve noon like played eleven Central and Aliston. Just think 1711 01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,360 Speaker 4: it kicks Sataday. It's go kick their go kick. 1712 01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:25,280 Speaker 2: Their butts today. I like it. I like it a lot. Ye, 1713 01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,840 Speaker 2: the Gate the jewel of the day. There's one great 1714 01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:32,160 Speaker 2: game and that's it. 1715 01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:36,880 Speaker 4: In two you know, you know, you know and the 1716 01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:40,599 Speaker 4: I in fact, I am yea walk go back your boy, 1717 01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:45,639 Speaker 4: you're you're exactly yes, So yes, Iowa State Iowa. 1718 01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,200 Speaker 3: Uh is a great game. It really I'm looking forward 1719 01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:52,000 Speaker 3: to that one too. I forgot about that one. Arizona State, 1720 01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:54,519 Speaker 3: Mississippi State. I think it's a good game too. But 1721 01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:59,240 Speaker 3: Michigan Oklahoma is going to be fantastic. 1722 01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:04,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oklahoma a four and a half, all right, the 1723 01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:07,000 Speaker 2: fight around a little bit. Yeah, I'm curious, see kind 1724 01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:07,840 Speaker 2: of what you like? 1725 01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,880 Speaker 3: Uh. They were a big winner against Illinois State last week. 1726 01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:16,000 Speaker 3: The tier played very well. I'm curious. 1727 01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:18,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, this game. I got a lot of thoughts. 1728 01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:24,120 Speaker 4: Okay, so yeah, a couple of things here Oklahoma last week. Look, 1729 01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,479 Speaker 4: I love John Mytier. I have a heis and waighte 1730 01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:28,560 Speaker 4: jurin him. It's unlikely to hit just because Oklahoma, I 1731 01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:31,040 Speaker 4: don't think will be good enough. But he's a verod 1732 01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,720 Speaker 4: follboy from Washington State. No one paid attention to watch 1733 01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:36,240 Speaker 4: State last season. He's really good. Okay, so we saw 1734 01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:38,880 Speaker 4: in week one. Now the problem is Oklahoma couldn't really 1735 01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:40,760 Speaker 4: run the ball their offensive line A little suspect that 1736 01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:43,720 Speaker 4: that does worry me in this game because Michigan, I 1737 01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:45,439 Speaker 4: think the thing they can do that we can rely 1738 01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:46,479 Speaker 4: on is defensively. 1739 01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:47,040 Speaker 2: They got dues. 1740 01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:49,320 Speaker 4: Now they have dudes that I might not played a 1741 01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:51,160 Speaker 4: lot over the last couple of years because they had 1742 01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,120 Speaker 4: a lot of NFL guys in front of them. But 1743 01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:55,720 Speaker 4: they have dudes on that defensive line. The thing that 1744 01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:59,040 Speaker 4: I'm most interested about in this game is Bryce Underwood. 1745 01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,519 Speaker 4: So Brice Underwood is an eighteen year old true freshman 1746 01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:05,679 Speaker 4: quarterback for Michigan who played well last weekend. But I think, Anthony, 1747 01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:08,760 Speaker 4: that the that we're getting a little bit ahead of 1748 01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,880 Speaker 4: ourselves with the with the Bryce Underwood talk in this game, 1749 01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:18,880 Speaker 4: the important part about sort of maybe paying attention to 1750 01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,360 Speaker 4: the whole game, and I have access to film, I'm 1751 01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,960 Speaker 4: lucky enough to have the film of games, is that 1752 01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:28,479 Speaker 4: I give Michigan's offensive staff a ton of credit for this. 1753 01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:30,960 Speaker 4: If I were to tell you you had a true 1754 01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:34,719 Speaker 4: freshman playing who just turned eighteen against New Mexico, design 1755 01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,120 Speaker 4: me the perfect game plan for that. It's what they 1756 01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:39,519 Speaker 4: did against New Mexico on Saturday. I was run the 1757 01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:41,240 Speaker 4: ball obviously, I had a long touchdown on early but 1758 01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:47,280 Speaker 4: rpo one to read passes, play action pass. It was 1759 01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:51,160 Speaker 4: the perfect atmosphere for Bryce Underwood. Cut off the field form. 1760 01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:54,000 Speaker 4: I'm telling you tonight, it's not the perfect It's not 1761 01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,640 Speaker 4: the perfect atmosphere for Bryce Underwood. It's going to be 1762 01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:01,559 Speaker 4: a very tough game for the Michigan offense. Oklahoma's defense 1763 01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:05,280 Speaker 4: is very good, and I looked this up. I wrote 1764 01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:08,000 Speaker 4: an article for Fox Sports on this. I believe when 1765 01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:11,640 Speaker 4: it was third and seven plus against New Mexico, they 1766 01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:14,599 Speaker 4: were two for seven converted. They're actually Michigan was six 1767 01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:16,840 Speaker 4: for thirteen total and third down, which I don't think 1768 01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:20,840 Speaker 4: it's great against New Mexico. So in this game, if 1769 01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:22,360 Speaker 4: you're not ahead of the sticks, so head of the 1770 01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,720 Speaker 4: sticks basically is this right first down it used to 1771 01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:27,320 Speaker 4: be four yards was efficient. You were probably like five 1772 01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:31,200 Speaker 4: now right, So nonetheless, you get four yards every play 1773 01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,200 Speaker 4: you get a first down but first down, you get 1774 01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,800 Speaker 4: five yards, second and five, then you get to you 1775 01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:37,760 Speaker 4: get three yards, you get second to third and two. 1776 01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:39,559 Speaker 4: You're in a good spot. Right, You're pretty good spot. 1777 01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:42,760 Speaker 4: That's odd schedule. You can push it twice correct And 1778 01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:45,040 Speaker 4: when we say like on schedule, that's what we talked about, right, 1779 01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:47,960 Speaker 4: five four or five yards? First play four or five yards, 1780 01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:52,240 Speaker 4: second play, third and short. When Michigan does that, they're 1781 01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:54,280 Speaker 4: gonna be hard to beat any given game because their 1782 01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:56,439 Speaker 4: offensive line is okay, even though I think they struggled 1783 01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:58,320 Speaker 4: in week one up to their standard what we've seen 1784 01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:01,040 Speaker 4: in the past. And Underwood with his army's got a 1785 01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:03,599 Speaker 4: rifle of an arm with use his legs like you're 1786 01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:06,680 Speaker 4: in a good spot in this game. Though, I just 1787 01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:08,639 Speaker 4: think that first and ten is gonna be second and eight, 1788 01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:12,799 Speaker 4: or second and nine or first and second and thirteen 1789 01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:15,400 Speaker 4: like it's gonna be a must have a stay on schedule. 1790 01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:19,960 Speaker 4: And if you get behind, that's where Oklahoma's defensive line 1791 01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:21,920 Speaker 4: I think what has a good advantage aginst the Michigan's 1792 01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:24,000 Speaker 4: offense line that I think was shaking week one against 1793 01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:28,639 Speaker 4: New Mexico in pass production. And again, you can't half 1794 01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:32,920 Speaker 4: field read on third and thirteen. I mean, you can, 1795 01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:36,559 Speaker 4: you just won't get a first down. And we saw 1796 01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:39,759 Speaker 4: last year. This is reminiscent to me of Oklahoma Alabama. 1797 01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:43,080 Speaker 4: Last year Alabama came into Oklahoma and John Millroe is 1798 01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:45,160 Speaker 4: a little limited as a passer, and we saw what 1799 01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:49,160 Speaker 4: happened last year. So now I'm not sure Oklahoma's gonna 1800 01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:51,320 Speaker 4: score a ton either. I took Michigan under twenty and 1801 01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,640 Speaker 4: a half points in this game. I don't know if 1802 01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:55,360 Speaker 4: that's still the number now. I gave this out on 1803 01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:57,960 Speaker 4: various podcast all week, so I'm sticking with what I 1804 01:30:58,040 --> 01:30:59,920 Speaker 4: gave out. If you don't listen to me there, I'm sorry, 1805 01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:03,960 Speaker 4: but I think Michigan's offense will struggle in this game. 1806 01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:07,000 Speaker 4: But the four and a half this game can be 1807 01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:12,599 Speaker 4: twenty seventeen. It can be twenty thirteen in Michigan's coming back. 1808 01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:14,920 Speaker 4: Like I don't love the spread in this game, but 1809 01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:17,120 Speaker 4: I really like Michigan to have a little bit issue 1810 01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:20,599 Speaker 4: scoring scoring in this car Now. The one equalizer, of course, 1811 01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:24,360 Speaker 4: is the ability for Phil for president would to scramble. 1812 01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:25,360 Speaker 4: The last point. 1813 01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:26,000 Speaker 2: I want to make. 1814 01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,320 Speaker 4: True freshmen on the road very hard to play in. 1815 01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:33,640 Speaker 4: It's very hard, but true freshmen by nature have a 1816 01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:36,320 Speaker 4: lot of ups and downs in the season. It's what 1817 01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:39,840 Speaker 4: they are. It's why it's difficult to project to project. 1818 01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:40,719 Speaker 2: So last night. 1819 01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:45,080 Speaker 4: Maryland played Okay, they played in Northern Indiana. Excuse mean 1820 01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:47,439 Speaker 4: Northern Illinois. Northern Indiana. I'm not sure they have a team. 1821 01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:49,880 Speaker 4: They have a true freshman as well at quarterback. I'm 1822 01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,519 Speaker 4: not sure that people talk a lot about Miliical Washington 1823 01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:56,280 Speaker 4: because it's Maryland and week one, man he looked great, 1824 01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:59,720 Speaker 4: like fantastic. You're like, oh wow, he was Week one 1825 01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:04,439 Speaker 4: definitely again exact he's given twenty move twenty seven forty 1826 01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:08,600 Speaker 4: three was his first game and he rushed for he 1827 01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:10,600 Speaker 4: didn't he didn't carry the ball in week one, but 1828 01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:12,479 Speaker 4: he's good yesterday. 1829 01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:13,320 Speaker 2: Week two. 1830 01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:16,400 Speaker 4: More film on him nineteen to thirty five, you know. 1831 01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:18,720 Speaker 4: Like So it's just it's it's hard. You're not going 1832 01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:21,360 Speaker 4: to get consistency as a true freshman. So that's why 1833 01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:23,320 Speaker 4: I think it's just a tough spot for Michigan. And 1834 01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:25,960 Speaker 4: I'm I was surprised they didn't go with Mikey Keen 1835 01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:27,519 Speaker 4: to start the season at quarterback, but I can see 1836 01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:30,439 Speaker 4: why because Brinsi Nderwood, the talents. So, dude, he's got 1837 01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:33,920 Speaker 4: a freaking cannon. Bro, Yeah, he's got a cannon. I 1838 01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:34,960 Speaker 4: actually loved him. 1839 01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:38,600 Speaker 3: I was talking about it as somebody, uh, one of 1840 01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:40,960 Speaker 3: the pro personal guys, and we were talking about him. 1841 01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:43,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, he's gonna be that kid. He's really good. 1842 01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:43,920 Speaker 2: President was really good. 1843 01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:46,439 Speaker 4: But I mean this game today, we're going to see 1844 01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:49,240 Speaker 4: true freshman on the road, first start type of quarterback, 1845 01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:51,040 Speaker 4: and that, to me is very difficult. So I will 1846 01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:52,640 Speaker 4: leave Oklahoma minds four and a half. You get a 1847 01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:55,080 Speaker 4: better number down you had earlier in the week. But 1848 01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:59,360 Speaker 4: I can see this game being twenty seventeen like seventeen fourteen, 1849 01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:03,320 Speaker 4: just ugly low scoring game. So that's why I personally 1850 01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:05,280 Speaker 4: like this Michigan. I'm really looking forward to this. 1851 01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:07,320 Speaker 3: I want to give you a little preview, all right, 1852 01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:13,720 Speaker 3: because I talked to the Brain yesterday and he's all 1853 01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:18,000 Speaker 3: over the Michigan over. He's a Michigan guy. He liked 1854 01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:21,559 Speaker 3: the one team he roots for team Total over today 1855 01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:23,240 Speaker 3: or just over and for the season. 1856 01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:25,360 Speaker 2: Now he likes them. Oh, he likes the game to 1857 01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:28,559 Speaker 2: go over the total tonight to go over. 1858 01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:31,720 Speaker 4: Well today, I mean today, you get a better number 1859 01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:33,720 Speaker 4: tenen than you would then you had three days ago. 1860 01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:35,360 Speaker 4: I mean, it's forty three and a half to that. 1861 01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:38,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. I know he know he loves the. 1862 01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:41,639 Speaker 3: Over and it'll be interesting to see you guys kind 1863 01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:45,160 Speaker 3: of debate this. The one team he's really a depth 1864 01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:48,200 Speaker 3: at picking is Michigan. It's only it's one of those 1865 01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:51,320 Speaker 3: things where when he talks about Michigan, I'm pretty up 1866 01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:54,400 Speaker 3: my ears are open because. 1867 01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:56,200 Speaker 2: Look, he's got he does it for a living. 1868 01:33:56,320 --> 01:34:00,080 Speaker 3: But his Michigan take because that's where he went and 1869 01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:03,720 Speaker 3: that's his passion is Michigan football. So I'm curious to 1870 01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,479 Speaker 3: see what you guys, how you guys go at it 1871 01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:07,240 Speaker 3: later today. That'll be fun. 1872 01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:10,360 Speaker 2: I would be shocked if Underwood played well in this game. 1873 01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:12,400 Speaker 4: I just think, I mean, we have we have like 1874 01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:15,400 Speaker 4: years and years and years of data about true freshman 1875 01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:17,519 Speaker 4: on the road taking their first big road store. 1876 01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:19,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, I and I listen. 1877 01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:22,800 Speaker 3: I like Mattier and I think, you know, like I do, 1878 01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:25,640 Speaker 3: think Oklahoma will score a little bit. 1879 01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:28,800 Speaker 4: Their offense line has got to play better than it 1880 01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:32,360 Speaker 4: did against uh even though they played last weekend who 1881 01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:35,920 Speaker 4: it was some Schimo team all of the times got 1882 01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:37,479 Speaker 4: it got to be better than it was last weekend, 1883 01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:39,519 Speaker 4: to be I think, as good as they want to 1884 01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:42,800 Speaker 4: be today, but they might get you know, admitagious field 1885 01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:43,600 Speaker 4: position and things like that. 1886 01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:49,000 Speaker 2: Who they play? I thought it was Illinois State. 1887 01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:52,439 Speaker 4: I just yeah, I mean yeah, it was a team 1888 01:34:52,479 --> 01:34:53,799 Speaker 4: that they should have played well against. 1889 01:34:54,240 --> 01:35:00,599 Speaker 2: Ye I'm gonna look it up. I think it was State. 1890 01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:04,080 Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you a quickly as we can start 1891 01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:07,760 Speaker 4: doing the show a lot on Saturdays. So of course 1892 01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:11,120 Speaker 4: it was only I gamble on a lot of things. 1893 01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:13,760 Speaker 4: I mean, I had a fever last night. The best 1894 01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:16,200 Speaker 4: wager in all sports is fading the sky. When Angelies 1895 01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:17,479 Speaker 4: doesn't play, they just don't cover. 1896 01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:19,759 Speaker 2: It was awesome. I hit alternate numbers, I hit everything 1897 01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:24,120 Speaker 2: was great. God. 1898 01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:30,839 Speaker 4: The NFL, I'm okay, you know, like a I'm probably 1899 01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:32,800 Speaker 4: closer to fifty percent of the NFL, which is you 1900 01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:33,960 Speaker 4: really don't make any money. 1901 01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:35,400 Speaker 2: You don't lose a ton of money, you just lose 1902 01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:36,439 Speaker 2: the juice. It is what it is. 1903 01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:41,240 Speaker 4: I'm college football is my my thing. I give out 1904 01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:45,639 Speaker 4: wagers on on social media every Thursday or Friday. I've 1905 01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:47,200 Speaker 4: been doing it for years. I give out three or 1906 01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:48,479 Speaker 4: four maybe five picks a week. 1907 01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:49,680 Speaker 2: I tracked them. 1908 01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:53,080 Speaker 4: Give you my record. I covered the Pack twelve conference 1909 01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:55,439 Speaker 4: for a living for years and it was basically my 1910 01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:58,320 Speaker 4: PAC twelve wagers of the week. Last year transition more 1911 01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:00,320 Speaker 4: to just the teams I, you know, the West Coast teams, 1912 01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:02,080 Speaker 4: maybe a couple of big you know, Big ten teams. 1913 01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:04,120 Speaker 4: I follow the Big ten much closer now with Oregon there, 1914 01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:07,080 Speaker 4: I'm fifty eight percent over six years. 1915 01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:10,639 Speaker 2: Wow, it's great. 1916 01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:13,960 Speaker 4: I uh, they're on Twitter. You can at Jeff Schwartz 1917 01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:17,640 Speaker 4: like they're up every week. It's don't It's the thing 1918 01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:21,720 Speaker 4: I do best, and so I just make those play down. 1919 01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:24,160 Speaker 4: Of course I get I wager on Texas today, they're not. 1920 01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:26,640 Speaker 4: I don't put I didn't put that in my my 1921 01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:29,240 Speaker 4: weekly wagers. Again, I stick to mostly West Coast teams there. 1922 01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:31,400 Speaker 4: I like Texas Tech today. I didn't put that in 1923 01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:35,000 Speaker 4: my wagers. But those I put on social media I 1924 01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:38,040 Speaker 4: tend to do pretty well. So I'll give myself a 1925 01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:38,800 Speaker 4: little bragg there. 1926 01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:39,000 Speaker 2: I know. 1927 01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:41,080 Speaker 4: It's you know, it's more fun to talk about the losses, 1928 01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:42,800 Speaker 4: I feel like, because that's more of a storyline. No, 1929 01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:45,160 Speaker 4: I won a wager like, it's more to talk about Yo, 1930 01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:47,519 Speaker 4: you know you lost a wager. It makes a more 1931 01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:50,000 Speaker 4: bigger storyline and it's more fun. I think to talk 1932 01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,360 Speaker 4: about the losses at times. But yeah, I I do 1933 01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:56,960 Speaker 4: college football. It's the things. It's my best thing. That's 1934 01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:01,920 Speaker 4: lessen fifty NWNB fitting the sky. That's also a very 1935 01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:05,120 Speaker 4: When injuries doesn't play, it's like they are covered one 1936 01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:05,479 Speaker 4: game this. 1937 01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:09,800 Speaker 2: Year, I can't watch it. I just came so I I. 1938 01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:11,479 Speaker 4: Don't know if I don't watch a ton of it. 1939 01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:14,559 Speaker 4: At times, I will wager on it. I watched Camlin 1940 01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:17,519 Speaker 4: Clark play. She's very excited to be but it's a 1941 01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:20,080 Speaker 4: tough watch. Sometimes it's I'll be honest, is that it's 1942 01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:23,280 Speaker 4: interesting game to watch. But I like I bet on 1943 01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:25,120 Speaker 4: fever last night. You didn't really watch much of it. 1944 01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:27,639 Speaker 4: I just kept tracking the score because injuries didn't play. 1945 01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:29,960 Speaker 2: She suspend it. And you know what it is, you 1946 01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:32,280 Speaker 2: got so much time right to do it. 1947 01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:35,200 Speaker 3: And I love it, right, I love sports, right, and 1948 01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:39,160 Speaker 3: I and I and to me like you're you're gonna 1949 01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:39,920 Speaker 3: make a decision, right. 1950 01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:42,759 Speaker 2: So we're all in on football. We're all on college football. 1951 01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:47,479 Speaker 3: So obviously the NFL, the NFL, everybody watches and we're 1952 01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:50,200 Speaker 3: I'm a big college guy like you, so I love 1953 01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:54,639 Speaker 3: college football and that I you know, I love baseball 1954 01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:58,120 Speaker 3: like so I'll be in on baseball and then NBA 1955 01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:00,760 Speaker 3: and I'm a hockey fan, so I'll watch, you know, 1956 01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:01,960 Speaker 3: I'll watch all that stuff. 1957 01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,559 Speaker 2: So so I can't I can't even put anything else 1958 01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:05,920 Speaker 2: in there. 1959 01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:10,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I get that's why. Like for me, like people 1960 01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:13,360 Speaker 4: do you watch tennis, I'm like, I can't. My brain 1961 01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:15,600 Speaker 4: like I've done, I just can't like bring myself to 1962 01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:17,519 Speaker 4: watch more sports. I don't watch a ton of a 1963 01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:21,880 Speaker 4: ton of WNA. But there are wagers to make that 1964 01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:26,879 Speaker 4: that win, and so I make those wagers. Like for example, 1965 01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:31,559 Speaker 4: again when when injuries does not play, they're really bad, 1966 01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:34,760 Speaker 4: this guy like I think it's it's it's I cant 1967 01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:37,240 Speaker 4: redo the numbers. Is a troach. And then also I 1968 01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:39,479 Speaker 4: watched a fever play because okay, the Kardovoc she's out 1969 01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:42,040 Speaker 4: for the rest of the season, disappointing. But the starting 1970 01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:44,760 Speaker 4: center opposing Indiana scores a ton of points every game 1971 01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:46,720 Speaker 4: like Cardo's at eighteen last night. I don't know why 1972 01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:49,040 Speaker 4: that is. They just he can't guard centers. And then 1973 01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:51,439 Speaker 4: those is exact thing again when footballs here have done 1974 01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:54,040 Speaker 4: less done you know, winter on the wm A. But 1975 01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:58,000 Speaker 4: this exact theory plays. You know, where a lady has 1976 01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:00,840 Speaker 4: a woman has a bad game, in the next game, 1977 01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:03,519 Speaker 4: they typically played better if they're a regular score. But 1978 01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:06,360 Speaker 4: the NBA too, right in the postseason especially, is a 1979 01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:07,880 Speaker 4: bad game the next game you take Jayen. 1980 01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:11,120 Speaker 2: Williams over and roll role players at home in the NBA. 1981 01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:13,360 Speaker 4: So I will take a look at that when it 1982 01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:16,599 Speaker 4: comes to w But I'm not I'm not watching. 1983 01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:17,640 Speaker 2: I'm not. 1984 01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:19,600 Speaker 4: I'm not like the Mercury and Sun play today and 1985 01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:22,200 Speaker 4: I'm looking right now at one o'clock. But that's all 1986 01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:26,360 Speaker 4: on my television right right, I'm not going to watch that. Yeah, 1987 01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:28,599 Speaker 4: and I have to watch, like I'm about watch. 1988 01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:31,120 Speaker 3: I love to watch it, Like I like the soccer 1989 01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:34,080 Speaker 3: thing is interesting because I've kind of gotten way more 1990 01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:37,040 Speaker 3: into it over the years and it's what happens a 1991 01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:40,080 Speaker 3: lodd times, right, like so you know I was getting it. 1992 01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:41,160 Speaker 2: I love the Euros. 1993 01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:44,519 Speaker 3: I love when they you know, the yeah, like when 1994 01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:47,360 Speaker 3: you're playing when you're seeing the elite of the elite. 1995 01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, some of that. 1996 01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:52,400 Speaker 4: So like tonight, like for example, like so they like 1997 01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:55,400 Speaker 4: the the Mercury play the Son. Like I said, mentioned 1998 01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:56,800 Speaker 4: the Sun day and the sun of the worst team 1999 01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:59,479 Speaker 4: in basketball. Like I I will probably take like a 2000 01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:03,519 Speaker 4: list of time this who is Phoenix's best player. She 2001 01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:05,720 Speaker 4: gets a triple doubles and it's eight triple doubles this year. 2002 01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:07,639 Speaker 4: I'll probably take her to go, like, have a triple 2003 01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:10,800 Speaker 4: double tonight today. Like I think there's some opportunities. I 2004 01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:12,880 Speaker 4: won't watch a second in the game. There are way 2005 01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:15,280 Speaker 4: opportunities to be to be had if you want to. 2006 01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:18,000 Speaker 4: And every city you look at it's an investment there. 2007 01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:19,439 Speaker 4: You go, all right, we gotta take quick t o 2008 01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:23,760 Speaker 4: We'll come right back. Uh, kind of go through the 2009 01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:24,559 Speaker 4: card a little bit more. 2010 01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:28,040 Speaker 3: I got to talk about Alababa, uh, because there's a 2011 01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:29,160 Speaker 3: lot of worry there. 2012 01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:31,720 Speaker 2: For me. 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The Eagles they 2039 01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:00,960 Speaker 2: could clone him. 2040 01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:04,880 Speaker 3: He's guys, a brother who's going to Iowa who is 2041 01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:08,439 Speaker 3: a stud too little twn in Iowa. These kids come 2042 01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:11,920 Speaker 3: from pretty amazing stuff. Iowa Ioway State is a great, 2043 01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:15,920 Speaker 3: great football game. But let me ask you, Jeff Bama's 2044 01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:19,400 Speaker 3: issue is Simpson a dude. 2045 01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:27,719 Speaker 4: Okay, great, great question. So Ty Simpson is the Alabama 2046 01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:30,280 Speaker 4: quarterback who's been in the program I believe five years now, 2047 01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:36,000 Speaker 4: and the question that I think we. 2048 01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:41,560 Speaker 2: Never asked is why was he there that long and 2049 01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:42,400 Speaker 2: never started? 2050 01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:46,640 Speaker 4: You can argue obviously that it's because Melroe was in 2051 01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:50,080 Speaker 4: front of him and other quarterbacks, but that's sort of 2052 01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,960 Speaker 4: a long time to wait to get, you know, to 2053 01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:58,280 Speaker 4: to basically never play in this day and age a 2054 01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:01,960 Speaker 4: while ago. Not the problem, but do you think that 2055 01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:06,080 Speaker 4: you can be a quarterback that wins at that level? 2056 01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:08,760 Speaker 4: Wait into your fifth year to be a starter? That's 2057 01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:13,280 Speaker 4: unprecedented in college right now, and for that to be 2058 01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:16,599 Speaker 4: the guy? And it looks we'll also trigging about week one. Okay, 2059 01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:19,080 Speaker 4: this is very nerdy? Is I love these type of things? 2060 01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:21,120 Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah? Is that? 2061 01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:26,240 Speaker 4: So when you play in a week one game, you 2062 01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:30,600 Speaker 4: basically prepare for two weeks as a player, right, So 2063 01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:34,840 Speaker 4: like the week before the week before the game week 2064 01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:37,880 Speaker 4: you spend some doing training camp, but you start sort 2065 01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:41,080 Speaker 4: of getting the install for week one, like you start 2066 01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:43,920 Speaker 4: sort of getting bits and pieces of it. Then the 2067 01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:46,760 Speaker 4: game week you get your full install. The coach has 2068 01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,519 Speaker 4: been preparing for week one for a while. Okay, so 2069 01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:53,759 Speaker 4: that first drive of a week one is a drive 2070 01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:56,639 Speaker 4: you prepared for for two weeks at least, and maybe 2071 01:43:56,880 --> 01:43:59,640 Speaker 4: longer than if you're a coaching staff, it's often like 2072 01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:02,720 Speaker 4: the best drive you're gonna have of a game. Look 2073 01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:07,880 Speaker 4: at Alabama, South Carolina, North Carolina. They came out first drive, 2074 01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:12,800 Speaker 4: bing bang, boom, touchdown. It's a it's a well manicured, 2075 01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:17,240 Speaker 4: scripted drive, and then when you're off script, the offense 2076 01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:20,120 Speaker 4: really struggles. So that's happened again. I mentioned three games. 2077 01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:22,439 Speaker 4: I'm sure there's more where opening drive you look good 2078 01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:25,880 Speaker 4: the rest of the game, yet right like just sink 2079 01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:28,840 Speaker 4: not as good. Now, eventually Alabama did make some you know, 2080 01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:31,000 Speaker 4: score eventually whatnot. But the point I'm making is that 2081 01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:34,720 Speaker 4: that's to me another sign of the offense is not 2082 01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:40,400 Speaker 4: is not healthy, and I'm very concerned about Bbama. Now, Yeah, 2083 01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:44,400 Speaker 4: two more things, two more things in quickly. One is 2084 01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:48,960 Speaker 4: Klein debor So everywhere he's been he's won, so I'm 2085 01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:53,560 Speaker 4: not I'm a little worried, but he's proven to be 2086 01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:55,840 Speaker 4: a winner. He won at two Falls, he won at Fresley, 2087 01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:58,720 Speaker 4: went at Washington. The other part that I think is 2088 01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:02,960 Speaker 4: really the issue. Here is the film showing two things. 2089 01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:06,160 Speaker 4: One they're getting pushed on the line of stream whig, 2090 01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:09,720 Speaker 4: which never happened with Alabama. And two is the lack 2091 01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:14,519 Speaker 4: of effort. We've all seen that sloppy. Yeah, and again, 2092 01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:17,040 Speaker 4: I watched every play Washington had for two years in 2093 01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:19,200 Speaker 4: her Killa and the Boar. It's not how Washington was 2094 01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:21,200 Speaker 4: with Killa the Boar. They were very physically. They won 2095 01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:22,760 Speaker 4: the Joe mor Award for the best offense line of 2096 01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:25,080 Speaker 4: the country when when he was there. So I don't 2097 01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:27,880 Speaker 4: know where that disconnect is. Why Washington was that not 2098 01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:32,320 Speaker 4: a problem, but here at Bama it is. Why Why 2099 01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:34,639 Speaker 4: is that an issue for them? 2100 01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:39,639 Speaker 3: It's a great question. I mean, they were sloppy, they 2101 01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:44,479 Speaker 3: were you said they got bullied. I mean, geez, you 2102 01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:47,600 Speaker 3: know that just doesn't happen. Last year it was a 2103 01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:50,360 Speaker 3: lot of this very similar. You can't blame it all 2104 01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:54,760 Speaker 3: on Milrow, correct I Listen, I'm worried about them in 2105 01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:58,800 Speaker 3: big way, in a big way, I mean, and then 2106 01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:01,720 Speaker 3: it just gets worse and worse worse, because you know, 2107 01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:06,439 Speaker 3: you're talking about maybe the greatest modern day college coach 2108 01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:10,720 Speaker 3: in Saban, Like you know, let's face it, he's number one, 2109 01:46:12,160 --> 01:46:17,320 Speaker 3: and you never you never saw that when he's there, 2110 01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:21,120 Speaker 3: you saw that attention to detail. I mean that's something 2111 01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:23,960 Speaker 3: that was that was always there for him, plain sight. 2112 01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:33,679 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. So but but thinking about that, I don't 2113 01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:39,000 Speaker 4: know if I played Alabama today yet, but they are 2114 01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:45,599 Speaker 4: probably going to smoke Ulm today. Thirty four and a half. 2115 01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:49,280 Speaker 4: I big numbers that because as much as the SEC 2116 01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:53,240 Speaker 4: team said to have some some scrubs, but I do 2117 01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:54,439 Speaker 4: think Bama will bounce back. 2118 01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:54,599 Speaker 2: Now. 2119 01:46:54,640 --> 01:46:58,840 Speaker 4: They played Georgia in three weeks at Georgia on the 2120 01:46:59,000 --> 01:46:59,599 Speaker 4: on the twenty seven. 2121 01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:00,000 Speaker 2: That's great. 2122 01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:03,000 Speaker 4: We can get a Bama, Georgia, Oregon and Penn State. 2123 01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:06,120 Speaker 4: Good weekend of football. But you know, they got a 2124 01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:07,599 Speaker 4: lot of work to do. They got they got this game. 2125 01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:09,519 Speaker 4: Then they have Wisconsin in a buy and the obviously 2126 01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:11,760 Speaker 4: getting ready for Georgia. So we gotta see I want 2127 01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:12,960 Speaker 4: to see the effort. I just need to see the 2128 01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:14,280 Speaker 4: effort being a little bit better today. 2129 01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:18,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, again they were sloppy. That was 2130 01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:20,680 Speaker 3: another thing that is like you never see on their 2131 01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:23,160 Speaker 3: saving Let me ask you this way, you didn't. 2132 01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:24,680 Speaker 4: See that at Washington either, Like that's the thing is 2133 01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:27,320 Speaker 4: that this is. We didn't see this, and I watched everything. 2134 01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:30,519 Speaker 4: He didn't see this at Washington either. Yeah, man, that's 2135 01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:32,960 Speaker 4: a good point. I don't know why it's like that, 2136 01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:37,120 Speaker 4: but we saw it last year. What do you make 2137 01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:44,400 Speaker 4: of Miami and Miami Notre Dame? What was your what 2138 01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:47,519 Speaker 4: your your thoughts on that game? Yeah, so I want 2139 01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:50,320 Speaker 4: to look. I think that I took Miami plus a 2140 01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:54,160 Speaker 4: three points in this game. I thought that again true 2141 01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:56,600 Speaker 4: freshmen playing on the road for the first time, and 2142 01:47:56,760 --> 01:47:59,160 Speaker 4: not true freshman retro freshman, but a car playing for 2143 01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:00,719 Speaker 4: the first time on the road, it would be difficult. 2144 01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:03,320 Speaker 4: In Carr actually, I thought it Quit himself pretty well 2145 01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:06,760 Speaker 4: for the Irish. Yeah, Miami has been building for this 2146 01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:10,479 Speaker 4: opportunity this year for a long time. Right, look at 2147 01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:13,799 Speaker 4: Mario and and what he's done in recruiting and especially 2148 01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:15,800 Speaker 4: in the trenches that had been trying to build up 2149 01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:19,680 Speaker 4: this team now for years and Carson Beckett and it's 2150 01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:21,479 Speaker 4: sort of come to fruition now, right, this is the 2151 01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:24,639 Speaker 4: team that he wants it to be. They're gonna get better. Remember, 2152 01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:28,720 Speaker 4: they have five new secondary pieces and new quarterback, and 2153 01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:31,000 Speaker 4: they have young wide receivers. They're gonna even get better. 2154 01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:35,240 Speaker 4: In my opinion, they're a legitimate playoff caliber team. I 2155 01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:36,280 Speaker 4: will not bet Notre Dame. 2156 01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:36,519 Speaker 2: Guys. 2157 01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:39,200 Speaker 4: You get retro freshman making us first star on the road. 2158 01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:41,680 Speaker 4: I think car quited himself very very well. Should be 2159 01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:45,840 Speaker 4: very excited for what this team can be once you 2160 01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:48,160 Speaker 4: sort of get in the rhythm with Kart quarterback. 2161 01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 2162 01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:54,240 Speaker 3: The thing that stood out to me because the kids 2163 01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:57,120 Speaker 3: got a lot of a lot of heart. 2164 01:48:57,280 --> 01:48:58,840 Speaker 2: Man, he played well. 2165 01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:02,479 Speaker 3: Now it was almost like they felt they had Riley Leonard, 2166 01:49:02,920 --> 01:49:05,519 Speaker 3: right So he's not Riley Leonard. When he carries the ball, 2167 01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:09,360 Speaker 3: he just doesn't have that size, but he can sling it. 2168 01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:13,840 Speaker 3: He made really good decisions that the the he was 2169 01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:17,000 Speaker 3: up for the moment. I just didn't like to play calling, 2170 01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:20,080 Speaker 3: like how many like you? First of all, you know 2171 01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:22,760 Speaker 3: you should lean more into the run game, and you 2172 01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:23,839 Speaker 3: got to love in Price. 2173 01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:27,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think that they correctly made the assertion 2174 01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:29,840 Speaker 4: that it'd be tough to on the football against Miami 2175 01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:31,040 Speaker 4: with with their offensive line. 2176 01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:34,040 Speaker 3: Right now, I hear you. You still got to do it, 2177 01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:37,800 Speaker 3: and Price is quick through the hole. You had to 2178 01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:40,040 Speaker 3: give him the way. In fact, he had he had 2179 01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:43,920 Speaker 3: some success running it and they just went away from it. 2180 01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:46,200 Speaker 3: How many times you're going to throw that flash pass, 2181 01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:48,120 Speaker 3: that's what calls that turnover. 2182 01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:56,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a horrible call. Yeah, I mean I agree. 2183 01:49:58,360 --> 01:50:01,320 Speaker 4: You know, I thought too, like the Miami thing, like 2184 01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:06,360 Speaker 4: they it's interesting because you know they they're before they're 2185 01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:08,559 Speaker 4: up ten there at the end, and that he became 2186 01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:10,680 Speaker 4: a tie game. Like Miami just has trouble in these 2187 01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:12,960 Speaker 4: situations like closing the game out. You know, now then 2188 01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:14,880 Speaker 4: they did. They did end up doing it, but they're 2189 01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:17,240 Speaker 4: up ten in the fourth quarter against against car you 2190 01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:19,400 Speaker 4: can't allow a guy to get behind you like they did. 2191 01:50:19,439 --> 01:50:22,080 Speaker 4: I mean, they's just again Miami just it's sort of close, 2192 01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:24,200 Speaker 4: but not always as button up as I think they 2193 01:50:24,200 --> 01:50:26,479 Speaker 4: should be at the end of those situations. So I'm 2194 01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:30,519 Speaker 4: very curious to see them throughout the season. Mario was 2195 01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:33,560 Speaker 4: an Oregon I like Mario. I wish them all the 2196 01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:37,479 Speaker 4: best at Miami, and I think that Miami can be 2197 01:50:37,640 --> 01:50:41,600 Speaker 4: the team they want to be this season because of 2198 01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:46,760 Speaker 4: the work the staff is put in. We're seeing not 2199 01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:50,880 Speaker 4: a not a not a backlash to the portal, but 2200 01:50:50,920 --> 01:50:55,040 Speaker 4: I think we're seeing a correction at the top where 2201 01:50:56,280 --> 01:51:02,520 Speaker 4: the best teams are just kind of very, very strategically 2202 01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:06,200 Speaker 4: going to the portal. But otherwise it's high school recruiting. Man, 2203 01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:09,719 Speaker 4: that's the backbone of your program, and if you can't 2204 01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:12,240 Speaker 4: do that at a high level, you just can't win championships. 2205 01:51:12,760 --> 01:51:16,120 Speaker 4: Of course, I'm not saying portal guys are not worth it. 2206 01:51:16,640 --> 01:51:18,519 Speaker 4: There are cert situations where you need to target to 2207 01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:21,599 Speaker 4: portal because you can upgrade a position. But you look 2208 01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:23,280 Speaker 4: at the best team in the country, dude, it is 2209 01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:26,439 Speaker 4: a lot of high school players maturing at. 2210 01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:27,920 Speaker 2: The right time. Right. 2211 01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:32,280 Speaker 3: Well, you need the patience though to build with them. 2212 01:51:33,439 --> 01:51:39,920 Speaker 3: Right Because I had this so Matt Rule and I 2213 01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:44,080 Speaker 3: hostitude podcast, I am called House Rules. 2214 01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:47,479 Speaker 4: Very disappointed in Nebraska's offense a week one. 2215 01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:54,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, well I'll tell you what I hold the thought, 2216 01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:57,479 Speaker 3: and we'll come back to it with a quick geo. 2217 01:51:58,120 --> 01:51:59,920 Speaker 3: Then we'll come back to it and then next hour 2218 01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:04,080 Speaker 3: where we go all NFL and look ahead to tomorrow, 2219 01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:08,080 Speaker 3: which is going to be it's the games of a TIC. 2220 01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:12,599 Speaker 3: How about the matchups in week one? They got that right, man. 2221 01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:18,080 Speaker 3: The matchups in week one Sunday Night Football Baltimore and Buffalo, 2222 01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:23,400 Speaker 3: Detroit and Green Bay at four to twenty five. Wow, 2223 01:52:23,880 --> 01:52:26,679 Speaker 3: all kinds of great games. We'll talk about that coming 2224 01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:30,400 Speaker 3: up as well. We're the Fellas, Jeff Schwartz, Anthony gar 2225 01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:35,599 Speaker 3: Got all righty here on Fox Sports Radio. Fellas, welcome 2226 01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:40,040 Speaker 3: back live from the Fox Sports Radio studios and and Jeff. 2227 01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:44,120 Speaker 2: Get ready to kick off college football Week two. 2228 01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:48,559 Speaker 3: So you brought up this concept, and I think it's 2229 01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:53,840 Speaker 3: a really interesting one about the portal versus the high 2230 01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:59,120 Speaker 3: school recruiting. And in fact, next week we're going to 2231 01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:02,760 Speaker 3: debut before our show kicks off, We're gonna debut a 2232 01:53:02,840 --> 01:53:06,400 Speaker 3: youth sports show with myself and a guy named Daniel D. 2233 01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:12,000 Speaker 3: Bernadinas who is in a big time ad in my 2234 01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:14,439 Speaker 3: neck in the Woods high school ad. He built this 2235 01:53:14,760 --> 01:53:18,360 Speaker 3: Saint Joe Prep program which was which is a national program, 2236 01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:22,400 Speaker 3: very very good football. And we're gonna talk to sports 2237 01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:24,800 Speaker 3: parents about this and it's gonna be all a part 2238 01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:26,719 Speaker 3: of it's going to be called Project Nil. 2239 01:53:27,240 --> 01:53:27,479 Speaker 2: Nice. 2240 01:53:28,040 --> 01:53:29,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be fun. Right before we get on, 2241 01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:32,880 Speaker 3: we're gonna do that hour Project Nil. And I know 2242 01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:35,800 Speaker 3: you with your daughters and your your family, like you 2243 01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:37,960 Speaker 3: know it's all about and it's we love it like 2244 01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:40,240 Speaker 3: you know you and I it was perfect because we 2245 01:53:40,360 --> 01:53:44,800 Speaker 3: love this stuff. But to get to your point about 2246 01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:48,519 Speaker 3: the high school recruiting, you want them older and bigger 2247 01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:51,439 Speaker 3: and more mature, because that's really kind of how you win. 2248 01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:54,640 Speaker 3: But you got to have patience to grow them and 2249 01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:58,160 Speaker 3: then be able to keep them in the program when 2250 01:53:58,160 --> 01:53:58,960 Speaker 3: they're not playing. 2251 01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:04,000 Speaker 2: That's the whole catch twenty two of it. You know, Yeah, 2252 01:54:04,200 --> 01:54:08,600 Speaker 2: I understand that, but I think that. 2253 01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:10,759 Speaker 4: Again. 2254 01:54:10,920 --> 01:54:13,360 Speaker 2: Like, so. 2255 01:54:14,840 --> 01:54:16,960 Speaker 4: I'll give you again. I'll go to Miami and organ 2256 01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:22,040 Speaker 4: for example of building a program using the portal, but 2257 01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:24,920 Speaker 4: also high school players. Right, So Mario Crystal bals in 2258 01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:27,280 Speaker 4: his fourth year in Miami. So is Dan Landing in 2259 01:54:27,439 --> 01:54:29,920 Speaker 4: organ and you see the transition from early in their 2260 01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:34,520 Speaker 4: tenure heavy portal right to phil holes to now portal 2261 01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:37,800 Speaker 4: is very much a specific need, right like we need 2262 01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:40,120 Speaker 4: a left tackle, find them in the portal. We need 2263 01:54:40,760 --> 01:54:43,240 Speaker 4: a corner go get him in the portal. But now 2264 01:54:43,600 --> 01:54:45,920 Speaker 4: the bulk of the roster turns its attention to the 2265 01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:48,920 Speaker 4: high school development. And if you thread that fine line, 2266 01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:52,840 Speaker 4: that's where you that's where you win. Now we're seeing 2267 01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:57,040 Speaker 4: a situation where us he is a good example of this. Okay, 2268 01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:01,360 Speaker 4: the realization that we're doing it the wrong way. So 2269 01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:05,920 Speaker 4: USC member Loki comes in portal heavy, portal, portal, portal, portal, 2270 01:55:06,760 --> 01:55:10,720 Speaker 4: almost no development of high school players. They realized early on, yikes, 2271 01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:13,560 Speaker 4: that's that's not going to work. And now we're seeing 2272 01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:18,320 Speaker 4: in year four recruiting level pick up recruiting. But also 2273 01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:21,000 Speaker 4: their best players on their team, like are a lot 2274 01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:22,800 Speaker 4: of them are the high school kids in the year 2275 01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:25,760 Speaker 4: three four, the year three and four, right they're left tackle, 2276 01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:28,320 Speaker 4: the right guard, one of their word receivers. And so 2277 01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:32,520 Speaker 4: they realized probably a year too late, to go back 2278 01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:34,600 Speaker 4: to high school recruiting, which I which I love. I 2279 01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:36,800 Speaker 4: think that again they I've given USC a lot of 2280 01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:38,680 Speaker 4: grieve over the years for the way they've handled business. 2281 01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:41,320 Speaker 4: I think it's the USC. You should always remember that. 2282 01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:46,240 Speaker 4: And they've made that correction. We're like to me, Dion 2283 01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:48,520 Speaker 4: Sanders at Colorado has not made that correction yet and 2284 01:55:48,520 --> 01:55:51,880 Speaker 4: they're going to struggle all season because of it. There's 2285 01:55:53,440 --> 01:56:00,760 Speaker 4: there's something about the foundation of your team, the players 2286 01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:02,720 Speaker 4: that have put in the work over the years. Now 2287 01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:06,240 Speaker 4: those guys might not even play very much, but you 2288 01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:11,000 Speaker 4: need to have a locker room full of guys that 2289 01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:16,200 Speaker 4: have done it together for years. Weightlifted together, condition together, 2290 01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:20,560 Speaker 4: met together, Understand the culture of what you want in 2291 01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:24,640 Speaker 4: a winning locker room. Understand in those relationships you form 2292 01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:27,200 Speaker 4: in the summer months right where you're you know, in Eugene, 2293 01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:29,800 Speaker 4: organ we were outflowing the river, We're having barbecues, or 2294 01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:32,000 Speaker 4: we're just you know, we we would go out an 2295 01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:34,080 Speaker 4: offensive line. It's a very country of us. We would 2296 01:56:34,120 --> 01:56:37,440 Speaker 4: just drive out in the country somewhere, go up a 2297 01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:40,840 Speaker 4: logging road and just camp for the night and camp 2298 01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:44,000 Speaker 4: very loose terms. I mean that's we bonfire and sleep 2299 01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:45,240 Speaker 4: on the floor and drink a bunch like. 2300 01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:47,120 Speaker 2: It's not like I. 2301 01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:52,400 Speaker 4: But but those like yeah, I mean it was not 2302 01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:55,600 Speaker 4: official camping, but yes, it were like but those bonding 2303 01:56:55,720 --> 01:57:00,600 Speaker 4: those bonding moments pay off in close games, they pay 2304 01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:04,280 Speaker 4: off in relationships. No, I think you're money those and 2305 01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:07,120 Speaker 4: you can again, you can add portal pieces as you 2306 01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:10,160 Speaker 4: go and those guys will get acclimated to the culture 2307 01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:13,200 Speaker 4: of the program. But when you're constantly turning over thirty 2308 01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:16,240 Speaker 4: forty guys in your roster, you don't build up those 2309 01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:19,920 Speaker 4: relationships and that and that and that connection to the program, right, 2310 01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:22,480 Speaker 4: And I think over time it really does end up 2311 01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:24,240 Speaker 4: hurting the ability for you to win. 2312 01:57:24,760 --> 01:57:27,440 Speaker 3: So ultimately it's you're gonna have to build it like 2313 01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:31,000 Speaker 3: an NFL team, right because free agency, if you got 2314 01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:33,000 Speaker 3: to try to put a team together in free agency, 2315 01:57:33,040 --> 01:57:35,240 Speaker 3: it's not gonna work. So you got to use free 2316 01:57:35,280 --> 01:57:39,440 Speaker 3: agency to go after areas of need. Like take take 2317 01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:42,760 Speaker 3: Penn State, right, they needed receivers in the worst way. 2318 01:57:42,840 --> 01:57:44,720 Speaker 3: So they go out and get three receivers into Portal. 2319 01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:48,760 Speaker 3: Well to go with a quarterback that's been there, two 2320 01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:51,640 Speaker 3: running backs that have been there, an offensive line has 2321 01:57:51,680 --> 01:57:53,560 Speaker 3: been there, a tight end that's going to take the 2322 01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:56,040 Speaker 3: other tight end spot who just left in the NFL. 2323 01:57:56,800 --> 01:58:01,320 Speaker 3: So there's there's your excent waving, which you have your 2324 01:58:01,480 --> 01:58:05,959 Speaker 3: roster through the portal, which is in just like free agency. 2325 01:58:06,720 --> 01:58:08,000 Speaker 2: So I agree with you. 2326 01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:12,160 Speaker 3: I will tell you that I've had college coaches tell 2327 01:58:12,240 --> 01:58:16,880 Speaker 3: me that they're down to recruiting six to eight ten 2328 01:58:17,080 --> 01:58:20,920 Speaker 3: MAX high school players a year that you know, between. 2329 01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:23,920 Speaker 2: Portal and Juco they do one year older. 2330 01:58:24,160 --> 01:58:26,040 Speaker 4: I really think it really depends on what your what 2331 01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:27,720 Speaker 4: the goal of your program is. And I think that 2332 01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:30,480 Speaker 4: if you if your goal is to win a championship, 2333 01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:32,640 Speaker 4: which again, a lot of teams just can't aspire to 2334 01:58:32,720 --> 01:58:36,920 Speaker 4: it's just impossible. That's not a winning way. But if 2335 01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:40,320 Speaker 4: you are in the middle ground, yeah, you probably have 2336 01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:41,920 Speaker 4: to portal more because you're not gonna get tho high 2337 01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:42,440 Speaker 4: school players. 2338 01:58:43,160 --> 01:58:44,120 Speaker 2: So I understand that. 2339 01:58:45,640 --> 01:58:49,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I just think that's kind of you know, 2340 01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:52,720 Speaker 3: I think it's you know, it's kind of kind of 2341 01:58:52,920 --> 01:58:55,800 Speaker 3: they're like the Beltic had. 2342 01:58:55,720 --> 01:58:58,640 Speaker 4: No choice but to go portal, right, Like so Year 2343 01:58:58,720 --> 01:59:01,840 Speaker 4: one were keep freaking out one, Yes, like you're one, 2344 01:59:01,920 --> 01:59:02,560 Speaker 4: I you're one. 2345 01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:05,360 Speaker 2: I get it, Like here he's getting no choice. But 2346 01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:06,520 Speaker 2: now but I agree with you. 2347 01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:09,760 Speaker 3: Your point's gonna be like all right, well, now established something. 2348 01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:11,920 Speaker 4: Which is why I've been critical about Dion, like you 2349 01:59:12,040 --> 01:59:15,480 Speaker 4: got you gotta no Maybe I play Juju Lewis today 2350 01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:17,400 Speaker 4: against Delaware a little bit more, but again, like your 2351 01:59:17,400 --> 01:59:20,960 Speaker 4: offensive line portal, your wide receivers portal, your defensive guy's portal, 2352 01:59:21,040 --> 01:59:23,640 Speaker 4: like you need your Year three. Now you need some 2353 01:59:23,720 --> 01:59:27,080 Speaker 4: of those guys you've you know, to be to bes 2354 01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:29,600 Speaker 4: right here. Fox Sports. 2355 01:59:31,680 --> 01:59:36,440 Speaker 3: Sports Radio, good morning, good morning, good morning, a happy 2356 01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:41,440 Speaker 3: happy Fox Football Saturday. Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Guar, I know, yes, 2357 01:59:41,480 --> 01:59:44,880 Speaker 3: where the fella is as uh daybreak hits. It's a 2358 01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:49,880 Speaker 3: beautiful sunny morning on the East coast. So as we 2359 01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:53,040 Speaker 3: get ready for a full slate of NFL tomorrow. We 2360 01:59:53,080 --> 01:59:55,240 Speaker 3: took a lot about college football over the last hour. 2361 01:59:55,960 --> 01:59:58,600 Speaker 3: I want to switch focus to the NFL. We talked 2362 01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:04,920 Speaker 3: about Chiefs and Chargers last night. Just to reiterate from 2363 02:00:04,960 --> 02:00:09,880 Speaker 3: the first aprogation, missed it. You saw Herbert game, Jeff. 2364 02:00:10,120 --> 02:00:13,360 Speaker 3: You saw a game in which you know what the 2365 02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:17,800 Speaker 3: quarterback with all the ability that the quarterback who was 2366 02:00:18,080 --> 02:00:25,720 Speaker 3: came out of a lab with incredible arm, talent, size, mobility, 2367 02:00:26,520 --> 02:00:28,560 Speaker 3: and you saw them put it together and you saw 2368 02:00:29,080 --> 02:00:33,120 Speaker 3: his receiver, Quintin Johnson actually catch it. But you saw 2369 02:00:33,280 --> 02:00:37,560 Speaker 3: the ability and what Justin Herbert could be against the 2370 02:00:37,680 --> 02:00:38,400 Speaker 3: mighty Chiefs. 2371 02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:43,120 Speaker 4: You did. And I think that the takeaway is the Chargers. 2372 02:00:43,560 --> 02:00:45,880 Speaker 4: The one thing we say about them often is the 2373 02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:50,520 Speaker 4: Charger right where they end up not being able to 2374 02:00:50,600 --> 02:00:54,520 Speaker 4: finish out a game where you know they should win 2375 02:00:54,640 --> 02:00:58,040 Speaker 4: that game, right, And yesterday sort of started to go 2376 02:00:58,120 --> 02:01:01,680 Speaker 4: in that direction right where they came out early, got 2377 02:01:01,720 --> 02:01:04,920 Speaker 4: a big lead early, very clearly were the better team, 2378 02:01:05,600 --> 02:01:07,560 Speaker 4: but settled for a couple of field goals because some 2379 02:01:07,760 --> 02:01:09,440 Speaker 4: errors they made you know, there was that first and 2380 02:01:09,560 --> 02:01:12,000 Speaker 4: ten about the eleven and they went backwards twice and 2381 02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:14,400 Speaker 4: he had to kick a field goal, and to be fair, 2382 02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:16,080 Speaker 4: the first driver of that their first driver of the game. 2383 02:01:16,360 --> 02:01:22,200 Speaker 4: Without that, Carl loftis off sides or in neutral zone 2384 02:01:22,200 --> 02:01:24,760 Speaker 4: infraction that they kick another field goal, they only have 2385 02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:27,440 Speaker 4: nine points in the first half. And the Chiefs started 2386 02:01:27,480 --> 02:01:29,520 Speaker 4: making that push, right, it was thirteen to six, and 2387 02:01:29,600 --> 02:01:34,640 Speaker 4: then it was thirteen twelve and whatnot. And then the 2388 02:01:34,800 --> 02:01:38,360 Speaker 4: Chargers came alive offensively, and Herbert made a bunch of 2389 02:01:38,400 --> 02:01:41,080 Speaker 4: big throwers, but a bunch of big plays, and they 2390 02:01:41,200 --> 02:01:43,800 Speaker 4: did not succumb to being the Chargers in that moment. 2391 02:01:44,920 --> 02:01:47,240 Speaker 4: And that was a lot of Herbert, right, We've asked 2392 02:01:47,320 --> 02:01:49,400 Speaker 4: him to play a little bit better in those moments. 2393 02:01:49,600 --> 02:01:53,440 Speaker 4: We're now judging him based off those successes or lack thereof. 2394 02:01:53,480 --> 02:01:56,240 Speaker 4: Then we're judging other quarterbacks because he's elevated himself talent 2395 02:01:56,320 --> 02:01:59,839 Speaker 4: wise to be judging in those big moments. Third and fifteen, 2396 02:02:00,560 --> 02:02:03,680 Speaker 4: closing out the game, Chris Jones loses contain. Herbert rushes 2397 02:02:03,720 --> 02:02:09,040 Speaker 4: for twenty yards and really impressive performance from Herbert under control, 2398 02:02:10,400 --> 02:02:14,360 Speaker 4: full control of the playbook, making checks, the touchdown throw 2399 02:02:14,440 --> 02:02:16,120 Speaker 4: to Johnson, the ability to buy a little bit of 2400 02:02:16,200 --> 02:02:18,800 Speaker 4: time backwards right to know what was coming. That zero 2401 02:02:18,880 --> 02:02:21,880 Speaker 4: pressure that Spags loves been a great throw on the run. 2402 02:02:22,640 --> 02:02:25,680 Speaker 4: I thought it was a very controlled. 2403 02:02:26,480 --> 02:02:27,280 Speaker 2: Using his arm. 2404 02:02:27,200 --> 02:02:29,880 Speaker 4: Talent, using his leg talent. And that's what you're hearing 2405 02:02:29,880 --> 02:02:31,560 Speaker 4: it from Herbert all season. Man, charge is gonna be 2406 02:02:31,600 --> 02:02:31,920 Speaker 4: really good. 2407 02:02:32,960 --> 02:02:36,080 Speaker 3: And you know, we've talked a lot about the charges, 2408 02:02:36,120 --> 02:02:39,600 Speaker 3: a lot about Herbert, and I keep making the assertion 2409 02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:44,280 Speaker 3: that now that he has a real coach, Harball is 2410 02:02:44,640 --> 02:02:45,760 Speaker 3: a great coach. 2411 02:02:46,040 --> 02:02:50,240 Speaker 2: He is, He's a winner, he knows it. He's a quarterback. 2412 02:02:50,280 --> 02:02:55,880 Speaker 2: He was a quarterback. Right. It's such a different It's 2413 02:02:55,920 --> 02:02:59,120 Speaker 2: a night and day from Brandon Staley. Night and day. Yeah. 2414 02:02:59,640 --> 02:03:03,840 Speaker 2: So to me, now the clock starts on Herbert. This 2415 02:03:04,040 --> 02:03:06,280 Speaker 2: is year two with Horrball. 2416 02:03:06,760 --> 02:03:09,000 Speaker 3: So to me, now now you want to judge him, 2417 02:03:09,080 --> 02:03:11,800 Speaker 3: let's see what he's got because now it's fair. 2418 02:03:12,320 --> 02:03:16,040 Speaker 2: It's like Trevor Lawrence. I think he has a good 2419 02:03:16,120 --> 02:03:16,680 Speaker 2: year this year. 2420 02:03:17,520 --> 02:03:18,120 Speaker 1: I do. 2421 02:03:18,920 --> 02:03:22,440 Speaker 3: I think that he the coaching wasn't there, and I'm 2422 02:03:22,480 --> 02:03:25,520 Speaker 3: a Doug Pee guy, but I just didn't like what 2423 02:03:25,640 --> 02:03:26,280 Speaker 3: he did with him. 2424 02:03:27,400 --> 02:03:31,360 Speaker 2: I still think he's salvagable with good coach. 2425 02:03:32,240 --> 02:03:36,760 Speaker 4: We'll find out. I don't know. I feel like Herbert 2426 02:03:37,080 --> 02:03:40,600 Speaker 4: has just shown from more over the years to make 2427 02:03:40,640 --> 02:03:41,320 Speaker 4: him feel that way. 2428 02:03:41,400 --> 02:03:45,520 Speaker 3: I agreed, But my important is that I can't believe 2429 02:03:45,600 --> 02:03:49,080 Speaker 3: that Trevor Lawrence is going to be a complete failure. 2430 02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:53,320 Speaker 2: I can't believe that he's a failure. 2431 02:03:53,400 --> 02:03:55,120 Speaker 4: Failure is probably not the right word. I just don't 2432 02:03:55,120 --> 02:03:56,440 Speaker 4: know if he'll be as good as we thought he 2433 02:03:56,600 --> 02:03:59,960 Speaker 4: was gonna be, which I to you that might be failure. 2434 02:04:00,040 --> 02:04:01,800 Speaker 4: I don't know if that qualifies to me as failure, 2435 02:04:01,880 --> 02:04:03,120 Speaker 4: but I think that he's just not going to be 2436 02:04:03,200 --> 02:04:05,880 Speaker 4: as good as he's never gonna be an upper tier quarterbacks. 2437 02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:08,360 Speaker 2: I'm not asking to be an elite tier quarterback. 2438 02:04:08,440 --> 02:04:10,840 Speaker 3: But I mean he was bad. I mean he was 2439 02:04:10,920 --> 02:04:16,440 Speaker 3: making his decisions were awful, right, He's play was not good. 2440 02:04:17,160 --> 02:04:18,360 Speaker 3: I mean he was just not good. 2441 02:04:18,720 --> 02:04:23,040 Speaker 2: Like he was a bad quarterback, Like he was just ineffective. 2442 02:04:23,400 --> 02:04:27,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't disagree. So obviously coaching what will matter 2443 02:04:27,320 --> 02:04:29,440 Speaker 4: in that. But I just want to make sure because 2444 02:04:29,440 --> 02:04:31,760 Speaker 4: I obviously have a chief slant as a Chiefs fan, 2445 02:04:31,960 --> 02:04:34,440 Speaker 4: like the Chargers get their credit for last night because 2446 02:04:34,440 --> 02:04:36,920 Speaker 4: it was very impressive what they did. Good way to 2447 02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:39,080 Speaker 4: start the season for them. Obviously, could get a division 2448 02:04:39,120 --> 02:04:42,160 Speaker 4: win the Chiefs. Mahomes now thirty five and six against 2449 02:04:42,200 --> 02:04:45,560 Speaker 4: the division, which is insane number insane that that's what 2450 02:04:45,680 --> 02:04:48,160 Speaker 4: it is. But that's where he's out right now. So 2451 02:04:48,480 --> 02:04:50,080 Speaker 4: good for the Chargers and that win last night. 2452 02:04:50,360 --> 02:04:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about Eagles and Cowboys. 2453 02:04:55,640 --> 02:04:57,960 Speaker 3: We both believe the Eagles are the Eagles and they're 2454 02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:01,520 Speaker 3: gonna be really good and they're the elite of the NFC. 2455 02:05:02,520 --> 02:05:06,280 Speaker 3: We'll see who joins them in the elite status the Cowboys. However, 2456 02:05:06,520 --> 02:05:10,200 Speaker 3: my question to you is, had they work something out 2457 02:05:10,280 --> 02:05:17,000 Speaker 3: with Micah, might this be a real contender of a team. 2458 02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:21,120 Speaker 4: What do you mean by a contender like to just 2459 02:05:21,320 --> 02:05:22,360 Speaker 4: win the East when the. 2460 02:05:22,400 --> 02:05:25,640 Speaker 3: Super Bowl or you know, listen would would they be 2461 02:05:25,680 --> 02:05:30,080 Speaker 3: a legit contender in the in the NFC had they 2462 02:05:30,320 --> 02:05:31,560 Speaker 3: kept Michael Parsons. 2463 02:05:35,960 --> 02:05:41,200 Speaker 4: No, but I think that their win total was certainly 2464 02:05:41,240 --> 02:05:43,400 Speaker 4: achievable and I totally by the way, So they lost 2465 02:05:43,480 --> 02:05:45,160 Speaker 4: last night or two nights ago as an eight point 2466 02:05:45,240 --> 02:05:48,240 Speaker 4: underdog and their total didn't move at seven and a 2467 02:05:48,320 --> 02:05:51,640 Speaker 4: half plus money now, which seems like an insane overreaction 2468 02:05:52,160 --> 02:05:54,160 Speaker 4: to what we saw. The Cowboys were very much in 2469 02:05:54,240 --> 02:05:56,960 Speaker 4: that game for a long time. The rain de lay 2470 02:05:57,040 --> 02:05:59,120 Speaker 4: kind of mess with everyone and ended up just you know, 2471 02:05:59,480 --> 02:06:01,760 Speaker 4: obviously not being able to win that game. But the 2472 02:06:01,840 --> 02:06:05,360 Speaker 4: Cowboys looked looked the part. Look, guys, when Dak Prescott 2473 02:06:05,400 --> 02:06:08,800 Speaker 4: has played, this Cowboys team has been really good. 2474 02:06:08,840 --> 02:06:09,120 Speaker 2: They've won. 2475 02:06:09,320 --> 02:06:11,280 Speaker 4: They won thirty or six games over three years before 2476 02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:13,560 Speaker 4: it got hurt last season. So they're going to be 2477 02:06:13,760 --> 02:06:16,280 Speaker 4: in a lot of games. They're gonna win a long games. 2478 02:06:16,320 --> 02:06:19,360 Speaker 4: The issue I have with them is the pass rush 2479 02:06:19,480 --> 02:06:21,640 Speaker 4: is that they obviously it's the Eagles. It's hard to 2480 02:06:21,640 --> 02:06:24,240 Speaker 4: pass against Eagles. But what do you do, man like 2481 02:06:24,320 --> 02:06:26,120 Speaker 4: you just you can't get any pressure on the quarterback. 2482 02:06:26,560 --> 02:06:27,920 Speaker 2: Well that's my pint. 2483 02:06:28,240 --> 02:06:30,880 Speaker 3: If you have Michael Parsons on this team, you go, 2484 02:06:31,040 --> 02:06:34,720 Speaker 3: all right, Well the offense with Pickens like Pickens lamb 2485 02:06:35,640 --> 02:06:37,920 Speaker 3: you know, yeah, it's pretty good. Dak back, you know, 2486 02:06:38,120 --> 02:06:41,640 Speaker 3: Dak and sling it all day long. Javonte Williams looked refreshed. 2487 02:06:41,680 --> 02:06:43,040 Speaker 4: And the offensive line there is good too. 2488 02:06:43,760 --> 02:06:47,400 Speaker 3: Well, it's point like, had you worked had you worked 2489 02:06:47,440 --> 02:06:52,000 Speaker 3: something out with Michael Barzons, like you should have Jerry. 2490 02:06:51,920 --> 02:06:57,040 Speaker 4: Just he he whether it was the handshakes, whether he 2491 02:06:57,200 --> 02:06:59,480 Speaker 4: was so caught up on that handshake, whether it was 2492 02:06:59,600 --> 02:07:06,680 Speaker 4: that or something else injuries the leadership questions about Parsons, 2493 02:07:07,520 --> 02:07:10,000 Speaker 4: he just very clearly did not want to reassign Parsons. 2494 02:07:11,160 --> 02:07:14,800 Speaker 2: So now, so this is interesting. I'm Clarence Hill, you know, 2495 02:07:14,880 --> 02:07:15,840 Speaker 2: Clarence yea. 2496 02:07:16,560 --> 02:07:19,720 Speaker 3: So Clarence has covered the Cowboys forever, legend in the 2497 02:07:19,760 --> 02:07:24,000 Speaker 3: press box down in Dallas. He now works for All 2498 02:07:24,120 --> 02:07:31,040 Speaker 3: City Networks d LLS, and Clarence I talked to on Thursday, 2499 02:07:31,880 --> 02:07:34,920 Speaker 3: and he was telling me that he loved Micah, that 2500 02:07:35,280 --> 02:07:39,840 Speaker 3: he wanted the same relationship that he had with Michael 2501 02:07:39,880 --> 02:07:43,760 Speaker 3: Irvin and with Michael Irvin like he loved him, like 2502 02:07:44,440 --> 02:07:49,040 Speaker 3: he loved Michael. Now, he also bowed Michael out back 2503 02:07:49,120 --> 02:07:51,480 Speaker 3: in the day, you know, a bunch of issues and 2504 02:07:51,560 --> 02:07:54,760 Speaker 3: whatever was going on. Jerry was like his guy like 2505 02:07:54,880 --> 02:07:57,200 Speaker 3: you know, and Jerry loved playing that role and he 2506 02:07:57,240 --> 02:07:59,880 Speaker 3: bowled him out. And he did a handshake deal with 2507 02:08:00,040 --> 02:08:02,080 Speaker 3: Michael Irvin, right, and. 2508 02:08:02,600 --> 02:08:07,240 Speaker 2: So he big one. I think he wanted to skew. 2509 02:08:09,440 --> 02:08:13,200 Speaker 3: Make it personal in a good way, right, like yeah, no, Michael, 2510 02:08:13,200 --> 02:08:16,040 Speaker 3: you're my boy, Like I want you to be my Michael. 2511 02:08:16,440 --> 02:08:20,840 Speaker 4: Okay. A couple of things here. One is that that's 2512 02:08:21,160 --> 02:08:25,560 Speaker 4: all great, okay, But the other person that has to 2513 02:08:25,640 --> 02:08:27,960 Speaker 4: agree to a handshake deal, right, So it doesn't work 2514 02:08:27,960 --> 02:08:31,320 Speaker 4: if if no one agrees to it, and Michael Parsons 2515 02:08:31,480 --> 02:08:34,520 Speaker 4: might not want to be your Michael Irvin. And that 2516 02:08:34,720 --> 02:08:40,080 Speaker 4: to me, that excuse for not resigning him the handshake 2517 02:08:40,200 --> 02:08:43,800 Speaker 4: whatever excuse, I want him to be my Michael Irvin. 2518 02:08:45,000 --> 02:08:46,800 Speaker 4: If that's the reason why you didn't sign him, you 2519 02:08:46,920 --> 02:08:48,800 Speaker 4: have made a grave mistake because this this is a 2520 02:08:48,880 --> 02:08:53,080 Speaker 4: business at times that is emotionless. Right, if you make 2521 02:08:53,120 --> 02:08:56,360 Speaker 4: decisions based off of what's best for your team and 2522 02:08:56,480 --> 02:08:58,720 Speaker 4: try the emotion. I'm not arguing you can have emotion. 2523 02:08:58,840 --> 02:09:02,000 Speaker 4: I'm not arguing that at times it doesn't feel emotional. 2524 02:09:02,680 --> 02:09:07,920 Speaker 4: But to not pay Michael Parsons because you wanted him 2525 02:09:07,960 --> 02:09:11,240 Speaker 4: to be Michael Irvin in a relationship, to me, it's 2526 02:09:11,360 --> 02:09:12,600 Speaker 4: just a really bad way to run a bit. 2527 02:09:12,800 --> 02:09:14,800 Speaker 2: Hey, listen, I agree one hundred percent. 2528 02:09:14,960 --> 02:09:20,160 Speaker 3: I think it's ridiculous, right, But this is this was 2529 02:09:20,360 --> 02:09:24,320 Speaker 3: Clarence's read on the situation, and he knows Jerry well 2530 02:09:25,480 --> 02:09:26,160 Speaker 3: agree with. 2531 02:09:26,320 --> 02:09:28,280 Speaker 4: How he reads it. I'm just thinking that it's a 2532 02:09:28,960 --> 02:09:30,400 Speaker 4: really bad way to run a front. 2533 02:09:30,880 --> 02:09:35,040 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I mean and and listen, he had 2534 02:09:35,080 --> 02:09:39,400 Speaker 3: to bail Michael out of the situations Micah. Michae doesn't 2535 02:09:39,440 --> 02:09:43,320 Speaker 3: do anything wrong right, like Michaeh Like Mike is not 2536 02:09:43,840 --> 02:09:45,960 Speaker 3: doing anything wrong that you got ready to bail you out. 2537 02:09:46,360 --> 02:09:48,800 Speaker 4: No, he won't. What I what also I find interesting 2538 02:09:49,120 --> 02:09:52,920 Speaker 4: is so there's reports came out that that Michael's podcast 2539 02:09:53,040 --> 02:09:55,320 Speaker 4: is a problem. And I have long believed and this 2540 02:09:55,480 --> 02:09:57,640 Speaker 4: is a little bit of curmudget maybe in me as 2541 02:09:57,720 --> 02:10:00,720 Speaker 4: a as I get a little older now, I just 2542 02:10:01,720 --> 02:10:06,120 Speaker 4: don't think players should have a podcast during the season 2543 02:10:07,320 --> 02:10:13,000 Speaker 4: unless they're like the best player ever. I don't really yes, 2544 02:10:13,120 --> 02:10:17,560 Speaker 4: I mean I think that it ends up causing more 2545 02:10:17,640 --> 02:10:22,080 Speaker 4: issues than it than the positives. It's not because I 2546 02:10:22,120 --> 02:10:24,280 Speaker 4: don't think it's a distraction. Michael Parson's doing an hour 2547 02:10:24,360 --> 02:10:27,520 Speaker 4: podcast the week is not discractioned. But but but you 2548 02:10:27,720 --> 02:10:33,200 Speaker 4: say things players, you might say things that you don't 2549 02:10:33,240 --> 02:10:36,880 Speaker 4: realize you're saying. And there were plenty of times where 2550 02:10:36,920 --> 02:10:40,960 Speaker 4: Parsons said things that I think rub people the wrong 2551 02:10:41,000 --> 02:10:45,480 Speaker 4: way in his own franchise, the quarterback stuff, a lot 2552 02:10:45,560 --> 02:10:47,040 Speaker 4: of things and I'm not saying that I was the 2553 02:10:47,080 --> 02:10:49,560 Speaker 4: ball end off for their decision here, but I do 2554 02:10:49,720 --> 02:10:54,839 Speaker 4: think that that it really does bother teams when players 2555 02:10:55,880 --> 02:10:59,600 Speaker 4: spend time doing other things that don't have to do 2556 02:10:59,680 --> 02:11:01,960 Speaker 4: with winning and losing, because all it's all the staff does. 2557 02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:03,840 Speaker 4: They spend every second of their being right trying to 2558 02:11:03,880 --> 02:11:07,840 Speaker 4: win football games. And if there's a situation where you 2559 02:11:07,920 --> 02:11:10,160 Speaker 4: can hold that against a player, they will take every 2560 02:11:10,200 --> 02:11:16,120 Speaker 4: opportunity to do that. And I think that teams. I'm 2561 02:11:16,160 --> 02:11:19,240 Speaker 4: not saying it's right or wrong. I think it's wrong. Actually, 2562 02:11:19,240 --> 02:11:21,360 Speaker 4: I'll say it's I think it's wrong teams use social 2563 02:11:21,440 --> 02:11:26,040 Speaker 4: media against players. They use when it comes to contract stuff, right, 2564 02:11:26,120 --> 02:11:29,120 Speaker 4: like not not explicitly saying I don't want to say 2565 02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:32,000 Speaker 4: it because you're you have a TikTok presence, But if 2566 02:11:32,040 --> 02:11:35,000 Speaker 4: it's between you and someone else or it's you know, 2567 02:11:35,200 --> 02:11:36,760 Speaker 4: it's like, I don't know if I really want this 2568 02:11:36,920 --> 02:11:40,160 Speaker 4: guy and your social media guy, like teams use that 2569 02:11:40,240 --> 02:11:43,240 Speaker 4: against you, man, they use your your spouse's Instagram again 2570 02:11:43,320 --> 02:11:47,680 Speaker 4: like they do. It's it's not fair, but they you 2571 02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:52,480 Speaker 4: know this man like they they and so is it worth. 2572 02:11:53,760 --> 02:11:54,520 Speaker 2: Is it worth that. 2573 02:11:56,520 --> 02:11:59,640 Speaker 4: To lose out on playing in Dallas or having a concert. 2574 02:12:00,080 --> 02:12:03,360 Speaker 3: Don't think the podcast had anything to do with that decision. 2575 02:12:03,880 --> 02:12:07,480 Speaker 2: I don't, I know, but I agree with the whole 2576 02:12:07,920 --> 02:12:08,200 Speaker 2: but the. 2577 02:12:09,800 --> 02:12:15,040 Speaker 4: Whole discussion that the handsing agreement meeting was about his leadership, 2578 02:12:15,480 --> 02:12:19,800 Speaker 4: which stems from the podcast, that that's why that meeting happened. 2579 02:12:19,920 --> 02:12:23,680 Speaker 4: He said that it's what the meeting happened. And so again, 2580 02:12:23,800 --> 02:12:27,360 Speaker 4: like I, I don't think it matters all the time, 2581 02:12:27,600 --> 02:12:31,440 Speaker 4: but I just personally think having a podcast during a 2582 02:12:31,520 --> 02:12:35,400 Speaker 4: season when you're a young player still is just not 2583 02:12:35,520 --> 02:12:38,880 Speaker 4: the best move. You're Max Crosby. I think Max has 2584 02:12:38,880 --> 02:12:42,240 Speaker 4: a podcast like go for It. Be my guest Tom 2585 02:12:42,320 --> 02:12:43,880 Speaker 4: Brady in year eighty five. 2586 02:12:45,080 --> 02:12:47,680 Speaker 2: What's the difference between Max Crosby and Michael Parsons. 2587 02:12:48,760 --> 02:12:52,320 Speaker 4: I mean, Max Crosby is a veteran respect in the 2588 02:12:52,400 --> 02:12:52,840 Speaker 4: locker room. 2589 02:12:53,240 --> 02:12:58,320 Speaker 2: He's in that locker room. I mean, I'm just trying. 2590 02:12:58,360 --> 02:13:02,360 Speaker 4: I'm talking about why we saw tweets after he was 2591 02:13:03,160 --> 02:13:06,200 Speaker 4: let go or traded that the players had issues with 2592 02:13:07,160 --> 02:13:08,120 Speaker 4: with the podcast. 2593 02:13:08,680 --> 02:13:12,080 Speaker 2: A right, I I hear you. I saw I'm not 2594 02:13:12,120 --> 02:13:12,400 Speaker 2: making this. 2595 02:13:12,760 --> 02:13:13,360 Speaker 4: I'm not making this. 2596 02:13:13,560 --> 02:13:15,080 Speaker 3: I mean I didn't think, oh, I didn't think it 2597 02:13:15,200 --> 02:13:19,600 Speaker 3: was from people that come to I don't know, I do. 2598 02:13:20,360 --> 02:13:23,160 Speaker 3: You might be right, but I can't believe that that's 2599 02:13:23,240 --> 02:13:26,520 Speaker 3: the really because here's the here's the truth of the matter. 2600 02:13:26,920 --> 02:13:31,800 Speaker 3: He signs the contract or agrees to that with the handshake, 2601 02:13:32,800 --> 02:13:36,480 Speaker 3: he's a cowboy for life. So the proc the podcast 2602 02:13:36,560 --> 02:13:39,560 Speaker 3: is irrelevant. He goes on to do the podcast in 2603 02:13:39,720 --> 02:13:44,160 Speaker 3: Dallas if he if he does the deal, I think 2604 02:13:44,200 --> 02:13:47,480 Speaker 3: it goes down that he got personal Well. 2605 02:13:47,680 --> 02:13:48,640 Speaker 2: I no, I don't. 2606 02:13:48,760 --> 02:13:50,760 Speaker 4: I don't think that he didn't sign because of that. 2607 02:13:50,960 --> 02:13:55,400 Speaker 4: I'm I'm saying that those can end up being factors 2608 02:13:56,360 --> 02:13:57,120 Speaker 4: that My. 2609 02:13:57,240 --> 02:14:00,360 Speaker 3: Point is that if he signs the deal, that Jerry like, 2610 02:14:00,960 --> 02:14:04,520 Speaker 3: they have the handshake deal, they comply, right, he's it 2611 02:14:04,960 --> 02:14:06,160 Speaker 3: like you know, it's happily. 2612 02:14:06,240 --> 02:14:09,480 Speaker 2: Ever after he's still doing a podcast like you're right, 2613 02:14:09,560 --> 02:14:09,800 Speaker 2: I don't. 2614 02:14:09,800 --> 02:14:12,600 Speaker 3: I'm not arguing with you that that you know, people 2615 02:14:12,600 --> 02:14:14,440 Speaker 3: in the locker room might rub people the wrong way, 2616 02:14:14,600 --> 02:14:17,800 Speaker 3: all right, But the reason why he's in Green Bay 2617 02:14:17,920 --> 02:14:24,000 Speaker 3: right now is because he didn't he didn't comply with But. 2618 02:14:24,080 --> 02:14:26,680 Speaker 4: Then what what are the reasons why Jerry refused to 2619 02:14:26,720 --> 02:14:29,120 Speaker 4: talk to his agents like that? That to me, the 2620 02:14:29,240 --> 02:14:31,680 Speaker 4: handshake thing is so silly because I know that I 2621 02:14:31,760 --> 02:14:33,800 Speaker 4: bought the Cowboys on a handshake. Well you also your 2622 02:14:33,840 --> 02:14:36,360 Speaker 4: lawyers also spent thirty days locked in a room figure 2623 02:14:36,360 --> 02:14:38,600 Speaker 4: out you know, like the sale. Like look like let's 2624 02:14:38,640 --> 02:14:42,760 Speaker 4: be real like you it's Clarence. I trust Clarence's read 2625 02:14:42,840 --> 02:14:44,760 Speaker 4: on it, and it makes a lot of sense. And 2626 02:14:44,880 --> 02:14:47,880 Speaker 4: you know, and I know from the other angle, from 2627 02:14:47,920 --> 02:14:54,200 Speaker 4: the Micah angle, like he Jerry. I think Jerry let 2628 02:14:54,280 --> 02:14:54,960 Speaker 4: it get personal. 2629 02:14:55,480 --> 02:14:58,080 Speaker 3: It's like he wanted to he loved the kid, like 2630 02:14:58,200 --> 02:15:01,560 Speaker 3: he wanted to be Yeah, I wanted to replicate the 2631 02:15:01,960 --> 02:15:02,880 Speaker 3: Michael Irvan thing. 2632 02:15:03,760 --> 02:15:09,360 Speaker 2: I mean, the ridiculousness is a you should have traded. 2633 02:15:09,160 --> 02:15:11,560 Speaker 3: Him in the draft, like if there was any case 2634 02:15:12,040 --> 02:15:14,160 Speaker 3: if you weren't going to pay him. I realized you 2635 02:15:14,240 --> 02:15:16,880 Speaker 3: thought you had a deal. But if there's any kind 2636 02:15:16,880 --> 02:15:19,600 Speaker 3: of question, like you gotta get it buttoned up around 2637 02:15:19,680 --> 02:15:22,320 Speaker 3: the draft one way or the other so that you 2638 02:15:22,440 --> 02:15:27,520 Speaker 3: could move them and get more than too late number ones, right, 2639 02:15:28,480 --> 02:15:29,080 Speaker 3: I mean, it's. 2640 02:15:29,040 --> 02:15:31,800 Speaker 2: It's crazy to me, and be honest with you, it 2641 02:15:31,840 --> 02:15:33,160 Speaker 2: should have been done last year. 2642 02:15:33,560 --> 02:15:36,920 Speaker 3: Like I watched the way Howie Roseman does businesses, right, 2643 02:15:38,800 --> 02:15:40,960 Speaker 3: I mean, like day you go all right, we're paying 2644 02:15:41,000 --> 02:15:42,520 Speaker 3: this guy, We're paying that guy, We're paying this guy. 2645 02:15:43,000 --> 02:15:47,160 Speaker 3: And Jeffy Lewis now is a terrific owner that he'll 2646 02:15:47,280 --> 02:15:49,120 Speaker 3: pay a lot up front cash, which a lot of 2647 02:15:49,160 --> 02:15:53,720 Speaker 3: owners won't do, which also gives you more of cap flexibility. 2648 02:15:54,360 --> 02:15:58,320 Speaker 3: But Jeff, when you think about this whole thing, like 2649 02:15:58,520 --> 02:16:01,560 Speaker 3: how he was all in on on mykah Adam Schefter 2650 02:16:01,680 --> 02:16:03,440 Speaker 3: reported the Eagles maybe a huge plus. 2651 02:16:06,920 --> 02:16:08,680 Speaker 4: A player you make. He's that kind of a player 2652 02:16:08,720 --> 02:16:10,000 Speaker 4: that you do that. 2653 02:16:10,160 --> 02:16:15,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's fascinating. But but but get back to 2654 02:16:15,480 --> 02:16:20,360 Speaker 3: the original point. If Mike is a Cowboy today, then 2655 02:16:21,280 --> 02:16:23,600 Speaker 3: I think they're contender. They may not be a favorite, 2656 02:16:24,120 --> 02:16:27,960 Speaker 3: but they're they're They have every bit of chance as 2657 02:16:28,080 --> 02:16:31,720 Speaker 3: the Niners, every bit of chance as the Rams. 2658 02:16:32,959 --> 02:16:37,439 Speaker 2: I think there, I think that they're contender. Tampa Atlanta. 2659 02:16:39,600 --> 02:16:43,880 Speaker 4: I think the Cowboys would be a playoff team ish 2660 02:16:44,080 --> 02:16:46,680 Speaker 4: if Dak was was there. I think there's still question 2661 02:16:46,720 --> 02:16:49,520 Speaker 4: I mean, Micah, I think there are still questions about 2662 02:16:49,520 --> 02:16:53,480 Speaker 4: the coaching staff in my mind, but I think they 2663 02:16:53,520 --> 02:16:58,360 Speaker 4: would have been fighting for a playoff birth. Yes, now 2664 02:16:58,440 --> 02:17:00,520 Speaker 4: it feels unlikely because they just can't run the passer 2665 02:17:01,080 --> 02:17:04,720 Speaker 4: right exactly. If you took away the best pass rusher 2666 02:17:04,760 --> 02:17:10,280 Speaker 4: of the league. No, yes, it's it's insane. I now, 2667 02:17:10,760 --> 02:17:12,720 Speaker 4: as far as the game, there is the line moving 2668 02:17:13,080 --> 02:17:16,360 Speaker 4: a point and a half. When Michael Parsons got trained 2669 02:17:16,400 --> 02:17:17,760 Speaker 4: to feel like a lot. That's why I want to 2670 02:17:18,080 --> 02:17:19,120 Speaker 4: what I took the calndary was supposed to. 2671 02:17:19,120 --> 02:17:23,520 Speaker 2: I feel you, Yeah, I feel it interesting. Uh, all right. 2672 02:17:24,280 --> 02:17:25,560 Speaker 2: What we're going to do is we're going to take 2673 02:17:25,640 --> 02:17:26,080 Speaker 2: quick too. 2674 02:17:26,160 --> 02:17:28,920 Speaker 3: We'll have the Brain on and I want to cover 2675 02:17:29,040 --> 02:17:32,000 Speaker 3: a lot of the games with you and the brain, 2676 02:17:32,720 --> 02:17:34,160 Speaker 3: and we'll move quickly through. 2677 02:17:34,040 --> 02:17:37,000 Speaker 2: All the games. That sounds good, Yeah, sounds good. All right, 2678 02:17:37,080 --> 02:17:37,880 Speaker 2: looking forward to it. 2679 02:17:38,320 --> 02:17:40,880 Speaker 3: Where the fella is Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Gargatto hanging out 2680 02:17:40,959 --> 02:17:43,480 Speaker 3: right here on Fox Sports Radio. 2681 02:17:44,879 --> 02:17:47,760 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 2682 02:17:47,840 --> 02:17:51,200 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 2683 02:17:51,320 --> 02:17:55,400 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 2684 02:17:55,520 --> 02:17:56,160 Speaker 1: listen live. 2685 02:17:57,320 --> 02:18:03,440 Speaker 3: All right, welcome back fellas, Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Gargano, Jeff, 2686 02:18:03,600 --> 02:18:10,080 Speaker 3: A lot of fun rolling by, all right, this is 2687 02:18:10,200 --> 02:18:11,840 Speaker 3: the this is gonna be fun. That'll be a fun 2688 02:18:11,920 --> 02:18:17,720 Speaker 3: segment because Jeff is a is a handicapper, and we 2689 02:18:17,920 --> 02:18:20,480 Speaker 3: have our man, the brain, who is in a he 2690 02:18:20,640 --> 02:18:23,600 Speaker 3: does it for a living. He's a pro. So we 2691 02:18:23,720 --> 02:18:27,000 Speaker 3: got two pros. Right, there's Jeff. I feel like il 2692 02:18:28,400 --> 02:18:32,080 Speaker 3: pro handicapper. I was really going for the football angle like. 2693 02:18:32,120 --> 02:18:32,959 Speaker 2: You're a pro a lot. 2694 02:18:37,640 --> 02:18:40,400 Speaker 3: I was going for the pro football like you you 2695 02:18:40,560 --> 02:18:44,280 Speaker 3: are a pro. I am a brain's pro. So it's 2696 02:18:44,400 --> 02:18:47,320 Speaker 3: kind of a cool things there. Yes, right, yes, I 2697 02:18:47,480 --> 02:18:49,200 Speaker 3: love this. I think this could be a lot of fun. 2698 02:18:49,280 --> 02:18:51,840 Speaker 2: Good morning Brain, Good morning guys. 2699 02:18:51,879 --> 02:18:52,240 Speaker 7: How are you? 2700 02:18:54,120 --> 02:18:55,200 Speaker 2: I like it all right? 2701 02:18:55,280 --> 02:18:57,440 Speaker 3: So each week you guys are gonna go head to 2702 02:18:57,520 --> 02:19:00,959 Speaker 3: head in the NFL at college, gonna have some fun 2703 02:19:01,760 --> 02:19:05,400 Speaker 3: with this whole thing. We're gonna go rapid fire. Let's 2704 02:19:05,440 --> 02:19:08,080 Speaker 3: start off in college. And I know right off the 2705 02:19:08,120 --> 02:19:10,880 Speaker 3: bet because I said it earlier. 2706 02:19:10,879 --> 02:19:11,840 Speaker 2: I was talking about your brain. 2707 02:19:12,600 --> 02:19:16,039 Speaker 3: The one thing that I would never ever go against 2708 02:19:16,080 --> 02:19:20,120 Speaker 3: you is with Michigan football. You are a Michigan man 2709 02:19:20,600 --> 02:19:25,000 Speaker 3: all the way you've you've talked about that team, and 2710 02:19:25,440 --> 02:19:26,880 Speaker 3: you get him right every time. 2711 02:19:27,640 --> 02:19:30,720 Speaker 7: Now, well, not here every time, but it's definitely more 2712 02:19:30,920 --> 02:19:33,040 Speaker 7: more than not. I would say I've been on the 2713 02:19:33,120 --> 02:19:33,520 Speaker 7: right side. 2714 02:19:33,560 --> 02:19:35,680 Speaker 2: I don't remember a time you missed the Michigan game. 2715 02:19:35,760 --> 02:19:40,200 Speaker 3: But I will say this, this will be interesting because 2716 02:19:41,000 --> 02:19:45,080 Speaker 3: I know that there's an opposite take here, So Jeff, 2717 02:19:45,200 --> 02:19:46,600 Speaker 3: take it away your thoughts. 2718 02:19:46,760 --> 02:19:47,920 Speaker 2: Michigan Oklahoma. 2719 02:19:48,959 --> 02:19:51,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think Michigan my way drive waizer on. 2720 02:19:51,360 --> 02:19:54,720 Speaker 4: I took Michigan under twenty and a half points, true 2721 02:19:54,760 --> 02:19:58,520 Speaker 4: freshman on the road against this defense. To me, screams 2722 02:19:58,600 --> 02:20:01,720 Speaker 4: low scoring, grind it out out game. And I don't 2723 02:20:01,720 --> 02:20:03,000 Speaker 4: really have a side. I don't have a take on 2724 02:20:03,040 --> 02:20:06,160 Speaker 4: the side. I think it's uh could go. I think 2725 02:20:06,440 --> 02:20:08,360 Speaker 4: you could win the game, even because I think Oklahoma's 2726 02:20:08,400 --> 02:20:12,360 Speaker 4: offense a little fugazi last weekend. Offensive line not great. 2727 02:20:13,000 --> 02:20:14,879 Speaker 4: But I think Bryce was just going to have trouble 2728 02:20:15,840 --> 02:20:18,720 Speaker 4: because it's a true freshman making his first road start. 2729 02:20:19,200 --> 02:20:21,160 Speaker 4: I got the top ten opponent at night. Feels like 2730 02:20:21,360 --> 02:20:23,760 Speaker 4: not top ten, a top five point at night. It 2731 02:20:23,800 --> 02:20:25,600 Speaker 4: feels like a difficult spot for it for him to 2732 02:20:25,680 --> 02:20:25,840 Speaker 4: be in. 2733 02:20:27,640 --> 02:20:32,160 Speaker 7: You know, it's interesting, just uh this game in this summer, 2734 02:20:32,720 --> 02:20:34,680 Speaker 7: they've all these lookal like guys, and you look at 2735 02:20:34,800 --> 02:20:38,680 Speaker 7: mines that you could bet these games in freaking you know, June, 2736 02:20:38,920 --> 02:20:41,720 Speaker 7: you know, April, May, you know, and they have this 2737 02:20:41,959 --> 02:20:44,840 Speaker 7: total opened it fifty three and a half. Okay, fifty 2738 02:20:44,959 --> 02:20:45,520 Speaker 7: three and a half. 2739 02:20:45,680 --> 02:20:46,920 Speaker 2: That's now down. 2740 02:20:47,640 --> 02:20:49,280 Speaker 7: It's now down to forty three and a half. 2741 02:20:50,000 --> 02:20:50,120 Speaker 3: Uh. 2742 02:20:50,440 --> 02:20:52,960 Speaker 7: You know, Jeff, listen, you may be right, I mean obviously, 2743 02:20:53,000 --> 02:20:56,560 Speaker 7: but I think both teams actually will score twenty points. 2744 02:20:56,920 --> 02:20:59,280 Speaker 7: And the reason for me is again, I actually we 2745 02:20:59,360 --> 02:21:02,080 Speaker 7: would do like both quarterbacks quite a bit. I think 2746 02:21:02,160 --> 02:21:06,080 Speaker 7: Mattier again now maybe Dana fugazy game last week against 2747 02:21:06,120 --> 02:21:09,720 Speaker 7: a four opponent, but I don't think Michigan's defense is 2748 02:21:09,840 --> 02:21:13,720 Speaker 7: necessarily going to be like dominant. I really liked what 2749 02:21:13,800 --> 02:21:16,640 Speaker 7: I saw out of Underwood. I think both teams do 2750 02:21:16,760 --> 02:21:18,320 Speaker 7: hit twenty here. I think forty three and a half 2751 02:21:18,440 --> 02:21:20,400 Speaker 7: is too low, I really do. This game has been 2752 02:21:20,720 --> 02:21:23,720 Speaker 7: founded the under. It's one of the most heavily bet 2753 02:21:24,800 --> 02:21:26,520 Speaker 7: things on the card has been the under in this 2754 02:21:27,080 --> 02:21:29,280 Speaker 7: I think the heat for the over is gone too far. 2755 02:21:29,840 --> 02:21:31,680 Speaker 7: I thought this total should have been closer to forty 2756 02:21:31,760 --> 02:21:34,520 Speaker 7: seven forty three and a half. I bet the over, 2757 02:21:34,680 --> 02:21:37,600 Speaker 7: and I also bet Michigan getting five math points. I 2758 02:21:37,680 --> 02:21:40,080 Speaker 7: don't understand why Oklahoma is as big as a favorite. 2759 02:21:40,360 --> 02:21:41,360 Speaker 2: I really really don't. 2760 02:21:42,280 --> 02:21:44,960 Speaker 7: I actually have these teams tower rank pretty close to 2761 02:21:45,080 --> 02:21:48,280 Speaker 7: even and should not be five malf points for home 2762 02:21:48,320 --> 02:21:51,360 Speaker 7: fil advantage. We'll see how it plays out. Michigan scores 2763 02:21:51,680 --> 02:21:54,000 Speaker 7: twenty one or even they score twenty. I can't lose 2764 02:21:54,080 --> 02:21:57,520 Speaker 7: both ways. I do think Michigan gets twenty. Jeff respectfully disagree, 2765 02:21:57,560 --> 02:21:58,680 Speaker 7: but we will see how it plays out. 2766 02:22:00,760 --> 02:22:04,560 Speaker 3: All right, there is the first battle of the season, 2767 02:22:05,120 --> 02:22:07,400 Speaker 3: the total in Michigan Oklahoma. 2768 02:22:07,800 --> 02:22:09,600 Speaker 4: It can still go over and we can both win 2769 02:22:09,680 --> 02:22:10,480 Speaker 4: our bets. 2770 02:22:11,920 --> 02:22:16,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. It's absolutely true, 2771 02:22:16,240 --> 02:22:16,840 Speaker 7: very possible. 2772 02:22:17,000 --> 02:22:20,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. Any other college games you like today, buddy? 2773 02:22:21,480 --> 02:22:23,720 Speaker 7: You know it's funny, Anthony, like, no joke. This was 2774 02:22:23,840 --> 02:22:26,440 Speaker 7: one of the toughest college slates were going to find 2775 02:22:26,480 --> 02:22:31,720 Speaker 7: stuff that I really really liked. I did like Memphis again, 2776 02:22:31,879 --> 02:22:35,360 Speaker 7: kind of a not a huge game, and going against 2777 02:22:35,400 --> 02:22:37,840 Speaker 7: Georgia State, you can still get thirteen and a half 2778 02:22:37,920 --> 02:22:40,840 Speaker 7: out there. I have Memphis just in my power rankings 2779 02:22:41,160 --> 02:22:44,200 Speaker 7: it's pretty much an average team, and I have Georgia 2780 02:22:44,240 --> 02:22:48,040 Speaker 7: State like right towards the bottom in my ratings, and 2781 02:22:48,120 --> 02:22:50,840 Speaker 7: I thought the fine swing closer to like seventeen. I 2782 02:22:50,879 --> 02:22:53,600 Speaker 7: don't understand why it's so low. Again, I just think 2783 02:22:53,680 --> 02:22:56,440 Speaker 7: one team is fairly decent and the other team. I 2784 02:22:56,440 --> 02:22:59,680 Speaker 7: think it's got awful. I think Memphis wins is won 2785 02:22:59,720 --> 02:23:00,840 Speaker 7: by seventeen plus. 2786 02:23:02,280 --> 02:23:05,560 Speaker 2: All right, Like is that it any other because they'll 2787 02:23:05,560 --> 02:23:06,279 Speaker 2: get to the NFL? 2788 02:23:07,240 --> 02:23:09,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean that was that was really Those were 2789 02:23:09,600 --> 02:23:10,520 Speaker 7: probably my three secs. 2790 02:23:10,560 --> 02:23:13,520 Speaker 2: But Iowa, Ioway stayed any any any feel in that game? 2791 02:23:14,640 --> 02:23:17,040 Speaker 7: Oh, Iowa State. You know what's funny. I did make 2792 02:23:17,080 --> 02:23:20,480 Speaker 7: a small bet, a small bet on Iowa getting three 2793 02:23:20,520 --> 02:23:23,840 Speaker 7: and a half. Now, Iowa State just these games when 2794 02:23:23,879 --> 02:23:25,320 Speaker 7: these two teams play with me, as you know, it 2795 02:23:25,440 --> 02:23:28,400 Speaker 7: just seems like every freaking year when these teams play, 2796 02:23:28,920 --> 02:23:31,400 Speaker 7: it is just like kind of like deal with Raven Steelers, 2797 02:23:31,480 --> 02:23:33,680 Speaker 7: like a rock fight kind of game where they're just 2798 02:23:34,200 --> 02:23:38,320 Speaker 7: close scoring. I just I know I think I would look. 2799 02:23:38,320 --> 02:23:40,640 Speaker 7: I always did, had the very nice one over Kansas State. 2800 02:23:41,280 --> 02:23:43,560 Speaker 7: I made a small bet on Iowa because it was 2801 02:23:43,600 --> 02:23:45,400 Speaker 7: over three, because I thought the line should have been three. 2802 02:23:46,520 --> 02:23:47,600 Speaker 2: Any thoughts on that, Jeff? 2803 02:23:48,200 --> 02:23:53,360 Speaker 4: I had nothing on this game because I just I 2804 02:23:53,440 --> 02:23:56,640 Speaker 4: have respect for Iowa. I just dis liked their quoteback 2805 02:23:56,680 --> 02:23:59,720 Speaker 4: situation a lot. You go eight for fifteen against Albany. 2806 02:23:59,760 --> 02:24:03,240 Speaker 4: I know it's his first game in a while. I 2807 02:24:03,440 --> 02:24:05,000 Speaker 4: just I like that, like that's a game that's a 2808 02:24:05,000 --> 02:24:06,920 Speaker 4: tune up game, like you should be twenty two for 2809 02:24:07,440 --> 02:24:10,440 Speaker 4: twenty seven, Like I don't even even if. And I 2810 02:24:10,560 --> 02:24:13,840 Speaker 4: just it's a systematic issue with them at quarterback. And 2811 02:24:13,879 --> 02:24:15,880 Speaker 4: I get Rock Obeck, like I get a real quarterback. 2812 02:24:16,280 --> 02:24:17,920 Speaker 4: I get a team that's won a rival a game 2813 02:24:17,920 --> 02:24:22,240 Speaker 4: already this season. But Iowa just sort of has this 2814 02:24:22,440 --> 02:24:24,400 Speaker 4: black magic in these games that you know they win 2815 02:24:24,520 --> 02:24:26,520 Speaker 4: with like a you know, a couple of years ago 2816 02:24:26,560 --> 02:24:28,600 Speaker 4: they won because Iowa State ran into each other on 2817 02:24:28,680 --> 02:24:31,640 Speaker 4: a punt and they muffed the punt. Like, I just 2818 02:24:32,120 --> 02:24:33,879 Speaker 4: that's my issue with this game. So I have nothing 2819 02:24:33,959 --> 02:24:37,600 Speaker 4: in this game. I would not be surprised if Iowa 2820 02:24:37,600 --> 02:24:39,480 Speaker 4: State won by a touchdown or more. But it's not 2821 02:24:39,640 --> 02:24:41,600 Speaker 4: like I don't have. I just I didn't wager on it. 2822 02:24:41,680 --> 02:24:41,720 Speaker 1: No. 2823 02:24:42,600 --> 02:24:45,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a hard game, as you said, Yeah, if 2824 02:24:45,840 --> 02:24:48,400 Speaker 7: you're right, they're so it's very hard to trust the 2825 02:24:48,520 --> 02:24:50,480 Speaker 7: Iowa offense. And it's weird. When's the last time I 2826 02:24:50,640 --> 02:24:51,440 Speaker 7: was had a good quarterback? 2827 02:24:51,480 --> 02:24:51,920 Speaker 2: Chuck Long? 2828 02:24:52,200 --> 02:24:57,080 Speaker 3: It's been a long time, Chuck Long. I love it 2829 02:24:57,080 --> 02:25:00,879 Speaker 3: all right, let's go to the NFL card Our five 2830 02:25:01,000 --> 02:25:06,840 Speaker 3: producer Brianna Brie. We need you to keep score brain 2831 02:25:07,959 --> 02:25:11,600 Speaker 3: v Jeff, all right, you got it? All right, We're 2832 02:25:11,640 --> 02:25:15,800 Speaker 3: gonna run through this quickly. We're gonna go through each game. 2833 02:25:15,920 --> 02:25:16,040 Speaker 2: Now. 2834 02:25:16,120 --> 02:25:18,200 Speaker 3: Again, you don't have to make a pick, but if 2835 02:25:18,280 --> 02:25:22,320 Speaker 3: you like a side, a total, or a prop, you 2836 02:25:22,440 --> 02:25:22,920 Speaker 3: let us know. 2837 02:25:23,840 --> 02:25:30,520 Speaker 2: Okay, Cardinals Saints, what do you got, brain anything? 2838 02:25:32,000 --> 02:25:35,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, the line is teetering between six to six and 2839 02:25:35,280 --> 02:25:37,280 Speaker 7: a half. The totals between forty three and forty three 2840 02:25:37,280 --> 02:25:40,440 Speaker 7: and a half. Pass for me. Uh, not a game, 2841 02:25:40,480 --> 02:25:43,880 Speaker 7: I bet. I think the number pretty close to being 2842 02:25:44,360 --> 02:25:47,080 Speaker 7: a lean on a winner. My lean would be, believe 2843 02:25:47,080 --> 02:25:48,760 Speaker 7: it or not, the Saints, but not a game. 2844 02:25:48,760 --> 02:25:51,520 Speaker 2: I'm better, all right, So you lean Saints? So well, yeah, 2845 02:25:51,760 --> 02:25:52,879 Speaker 2: all right, what do you got, Jeff? 2846 02:25:53,000 --> 02:25:54,800 Speaker 4: I got nothing in this game? I just hope that 2847 02:25:56,000 --> 02:25:57,920 Speaker 4: that the It would be nice if if the Saints 2848 02:25:57,959 --> 02:26:00,400 Speaker 4: were to win, to knock out some survivors. It's about 2849 02:26:00,560 --> 02:26:04,160 Speaker 4: that's about my my. You got to play on that team. 2850 02:26:04,200 --> 02:26:04,640 Speaker 2: I don't think that. 2851 02:26:04,760 --> 02:26:07,520 Speaker 4: I think the Saints are really bad this year. I 2852 02:26:07,640 --> 02:26:09,800 Speaker 4: think the Cardinals probably win, but I don't have a wage. 2853 02:26:09,840 --> 02:26:15,200 Speaker 4: I'm not betting at this game. Colts Dolphin's brain, I 2854 02:26:15,280 --> 02:26:15,960 Speaker 4: actually did that. 2855 02:26:16,360 --> 02:26:19,040 Speaker 7: Uh, Indianapolis, I think it was getting plus one and 2856 02:26:19,120 --> 02:26:21,200 Speaker 7: right now it looks like it's right around a pick. 2857 02:26:22,760 --> 02:26:25,720 Speaker 7: I think Indianapolis is actually weirdly going to be improved. 2858 02:26:26,560 --> 02:26:28,879 Speaker 7: I think Daniel Jones is actually going to be an 2859 02:26:28,959 --> 02:26:32,800 Speaker 7: upgrade for what they have. And I think the Colts 2860 02:26:32,840 --> 02:26:34,560 Speaker 7: find a way to win this one. I just you know, 2861 02:26:34,600 --> 02:26:36,800 Speaker 7: I thought they should have been a you know, closer, 2862 02:26:36,800 --> 02:26:37,400 Speaker 7: I'm not going to see. 2863 02:26:38,520 --> 02:26:38,920 Speaker 2: I'm with you. 2864 02:26:39,040 --> 02:26:41,040 Speaker 7: The Colts are going to win this one. I think 2865 02:26:41,080 --> 02:26:43,240 Speaker 7: they'll find a way to win. Colts was the actually game. 2866 02:26:43,080 --> 02:26:46,040 Speaker 4: I bet, all right, jem I My best bet in 2867 02:26:46,040 --> 02:26:47,959 Speaker 4: my podcast this week was Colt's mightest one. 2868 02:26:48,320 --> 02:26:48,600 Speaker 7: Wow. 2869 02:26:50,360 --> 02:26:53,800 Speaker 2: Proa agree, it's a road, it's a very it's a 2870 02:26:53,959 --> 02:26:54,840 Speaker 2: very ugly game. 2871 02:26:54,879 --> 02:26:57,240 Speaker 4: I get it. But I think the Dolphins absolutely stink. 2872 02:26:57,879 --> 02:27:00,480 Speaker 4: And I think in week one, which which ain't stychen 2873 02:27:00,640 --> 02:27:02,840 Speaker 4: to prepare with Daniel Jones for two weeks, they will 2874 02:27:02,879 --> 02:27:05,720 Speaker 4: have a competent offense. Uh It's like, what do the 2875 02:27:05,760 --> 02:27:06,280 Speaker 4: Dolphins do? 2876 02:27:06,400 --> 02:27:10,640 Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, I agree, So I'm on. I'm on the Colts, 2877 02:27:10,680 --> 02:27:13,119 Speaker 2: all right, you guys, you agree? I love it. Patriots 2878 02:27:13,240 --> 02:27:15,959 Speaker 2: Raiders Brain, Oh. 2879 02:27:16,080 --> 02:27:20,440 Speaker 7: Patrick Raiders. Yeah, I bet the Raiders here, guys, I 2880 02:27:20,560 --> 02:27:24,560 Speaker 7: think New England losing the val thinks of really big injury. 2881 02:27:25,120 --> 02:27:27,000 Speaker 7: It was three downs, two and a half. I like 2882 02:27:27,040 --> 02:27:29,000 Speaker 7: it's best way to bet it now is in teasers. Personally, 2883 02:27:29,160 --> 02:27:30,360 Speaker 7: go and take them up to eight and a half. 2884 02:27:31,400 --> 02:27:33,200 Speaker 7: I highly recommend that. But I think it's to be 2885 02:27:33,240 --> 02:27:35,240 Speaker 7: a close game. But I actually like the Raiders. Raiders 2886 02:27:35,280 --> 02:27:38,640 Speaker 7: to me or I think are vastly improved team, vastly improved. 2887 02:27:39,440 --> 02:27:41,600 Speaker 7: I think the Raiders win this one out right, all right. 2888 02:27:41,560 --> 02:27:44,400 Speaker 4: Jeff, So I if you missed the best number on 2889 02:27:44,440 --> 02:27:48,600 Speaker 4: the Raiders, it was three yesterday. But I'm the Patriots 2890 02:27:48,680 --> 02:27:51,160 Speaker 4: love is too much their favorite, like eleven games this year, 2891 02:27:51,240 --> 02:27:53,320 Speaker 4: Like can we take a deep breath please? So I 2892 02:27:53,640 --> 02:27:56,080 Speaker 4: have nothing on this game, but I if you missed 2893 02:27:56,080 --> 02:27:58,560 Speaker 4: the three then I just would maybe live wager or 2894 02:27:58,640 --> 02:28:01,039 Speaker 4: like you said, Brad, you can you. 2895 02:28:01,040 --> 02:28:03,440 Speaker 3: Guys should say the same way though you both both 2896 02:28:03,520 --> 02:28:04,480 Speaker 3: see right, I'm not waiting. 2897 02:28:04,760 --> 02:28:07,160 Speaker 4: How can you wage on the Patriots as a favorite 2898 02:28:07,720 --> 02:28:09,800 Speaker 4: without you haven't seen them play with like this new 2899 02:28:09,840 --> 02:28:11,279 Speaker 4: iteration play in the city. 2900 02:28:11,160 --> 02:28:12,240 Speaker 2: Game yet it seems silly to me. 2901 02:28:12,959 --> 02:28:15,959 Speaker 3: I listen, I like it, you guys, agree there Steelers 2902 02:28:16,280 --> 02:28:18,519 Speaker 3: Jets the Rogers ball brain. 2903 02:28:18,959 --> 02:28:21,480 Speaker 7: All right, this was a game. I actually did have 2904 02:28:21,840 --> 02:28:26,640 Speaker 7: a bet on the on the Jets plus three when 2905 02:28:26,640 --> 02:28:32,920 Speaker 7: they lost the lineman Tucker. Yeah, vera Tucker. I just 2906 02:28:33,280 --> 02:28:34,960 Speaker 7: and I and then you know I got deals just 2907 02:28:35,040 --> 02:28:37,280 Speaker 7: has looked so poor. I got out of my bet. 2908 02:28:37,360 --> 02:28:39,280 Speaker 7: No harm, no fouls. I just kind of like, you 2909 02:28:39,320 --> 02:28:43,040 Speaker 7: know what, I just started feeling easy about it. Lean 2910 02:28:43,200 --> 02:28:46,240 Speaker 7: here Jets plus three but not an official play anymore 2911 02:28:46,800 --> 02:28:49,000 Speaker 7: because I just I hate when the team. Although the 2912 02:28:49,080 --> 02:28:52,160 Speaker 7: Chargers overcame losing Slavory yesterday, just don't like the way 2913 02:28:52,240 --> 02:28:53,959 Speaker 7: that starts out, Jeff. 2914 02:28:54,040 --> 02:28:56,560 Speaker 4: For me, we got to move fast, so yeah, it 2915 02:28:56,560 --> 02:28:59,000 Speaker 4: would it would be Jets are nothing in this one. 2916 02:28:59,320 --> 02:29:02,119 Speaker 4: Mike Toman has as a road favorite is a terrible wager. 2917 02:29:02,680 --> 02:29:07,680 Speaker 2: All right, all right, Giants Washington Brain. 2918 02:29:09,760 --> 02:29:11,840 Speaker 7: Rest with me or as my best my all in 2919 02:29:12,000 --> 02:29:15,520 Speaker 7: game of the week calling the upside outright. I think 2920 02:29:15,560 --> 02:29:18,680 Speaker 7: the Giants win. I totally me this game was pick them. 2921 02:29:18,680 --> 02:29:20,880 Speaker 7: I was offered a trillion dollars and get cure cancer. 2922 02:29:21,040 --> 02:29:25,120 Speaker 7: I picked the Giants. I like under forty six and 2923 02:29:25,240 --> 02:29:27,480 Speaker 7: I like the Giants plus you can get some so 2924 02:29:27,680 --> 02:29:30,160 Speaker 7: six mans out there. I like Giants plus six and 2925 02:29:30,160 --> 02:29:31,800 Speaker 7: a half or six, and I like under in the 2926 02:29:31,840 --> 02:29:32,280 Speaker 7: game as well. 2927 02:29:33,280 --> 02:29:35,160 Speaker 4: So this is stay away from me because I like 2928 02:29:35,240 --> 02:29:37,360 Speaker 4: the Commanders a lot this year. I like them in 2929 02:29:37,400 --> 02:29:39,320 Speaker 4: this game, and I know it's the wrong side. So 2930 02:29:39,640 --> 02:29:41,320 Speaker 4: I did not make a wager in this game. 2931 02:29:42,080 --> 02:29:43,040 Speaker 2: It's the wrong side. 2932 02:29:43,440 --> 02:29:46,480 Speaker 4: This is this is like absolutely like square sharp situation 2933 02:29:46,640 --> 02:29:49,640 Speaker 4: where the sharp guys are all on the Giants and 2934 02:29:50,280 --> 02:29:53,520 Speaker 4: people like me that that have square tendencies at times 2935 02:29:53,600 --> 02:29:55,520 Speaker 4: are on are on the Commanders. This is like, this 2936 02:29:55,640 --> 02:29:58,000 Speaker 4: is a classic sharp square game, and so I don't 2937 02:29:58,000 --> 02:30:00,840 Speaker 4: have a wager on it. I'm high the Commanders this year. 2938 02:30:01,360 --> 02:30:04,360 Speaker 3: And I put him down for Washington braid so because 2939 02:30:04,800 --> 02:30:07,640 Speaker 3: that was his first line, even though he didn't wager 2940 02:30:07,720 --> 02:30:09,000 Speaker 3: on the game. But sure you can put you that 2941 02:30:09,080 --> 02:30:11,320 Speaker 3: for Washington. Okay, well we gotta put him. You gotta 2942 02:30:11,360 --> 02:30:14,000 Speaker 3: put you guys down. You guys have agreed on most 2943 02:30:14,000 --> 02:30:19,480 Speaker 3: of the other games. Uh, Carolina Jacksonville Jacksonville three and 2944 02:30:19,520 --> 02:30:22,959 Speaker 3: a half, brain Yeah, Jacksonville. 2945 02:30:22,959 --> 02:30:24,080 Speaker 7: Mine is two and a half. Is one of my 2946 02:30:24,160 --> 02:30:26,480 Speaker 7: biggest bets of the of the week. Now it's three 2947 02:30:26,520 --> 02:30:29,760 Speaker 7: and a half. Unfortunately, still Lee believe it or not, Jacksonville. 2948 02:30:29,800 --> 02:30:32,040 Speaker 7: I actually jackson is gonna be quite good offensively. My 2949 02:30:32,280 --> 02:30:34,120 Speaker 7: number one quarter will you're called a hot take. I 2950 02:30:34,160 --> 02:30:35,680 Speaker 7: think the Giants will be decent in the second one. 2951 02:30:35,720 --> 02:30:38,800 Speaker 7: I think Jacksonville Trevor Lawrence will be the guy that 2952 02:30:38,840 --> 02:30:40,440 Speaker 7: people think he's going to be this year. I think 2953 02:30:40,440 --> 02:30:43,400 Speaker 7: he's gonna play great. I also bet over forty six 2954 02:30:43,440 --> 02:30:46,920 Speaker 7: and a half as well. I think Jacksonville scores thirty 2955 02:30:46,959 --> 02:30:47,640 Speaker 7: plus in this one. 2956 02:30:48,360 --> 02:30:50,440 Speaker 4: I like the Panther I like the Panthers at three 2957 02:30:50,480 --> 02:30:56,480 Speaker 4: and a half. Jovi Joe, well, we can both win. 2958 02:30:56,879 --> 02:30:58,040 Speaker 4: He's got two and a half. I got three and 2959 02:30:58,080 --> 02:31:01,600 Speaker 4: a half. I say the Panthers are much improved this season, 2960 02:31:01,640 --> 02:31:03,879 Speaker 4: especially on defense. And I just don't know what I'm 2961 02:31:03,879 --> 02:31:06,120 Speaker 4: getting in Jacksonville. I don't really trust him quite yet. 2962 02:31:06,440 --> 02:31:08,760 Speaker 4: All right, And so I got the Panthers bus. 2963 02:31:08,600 --> 02:31:09,040 Speaker 2: Three and a half. 2964 02:31:09,160 --> 02:31:12,680 Speaker 3: All right, all right, brain stick around, don't go anywhere, okay, 2965 02:31:13,640 --> 02:31:15,760 Speaker 3: and then we'll finish the card. But we got to 2966 02:31:15,840 --> 02:31:19,000 Speaker 3: move fast to get to all the games. All right, boys, 2967 02:31:19,600 --> 02:31:21,879 Speaker 3: we're the fellas. This is a lot of fun. 2968 02:31:21,959 --> 02:31:22,800 Speaker 2: We're at Joe v. 2969 02:31:23,000 --> 02:31:26,280 Speaker 3: Joe ob all right, pro v pro over here hanging 2970 02:31:26,360 --> 02:31:32,560 Speaker 3: out on Fox Sports Radio. All Right, fellas, welcome back, 2971 02:31:34,120 --> 02:31:35,680 Speaker 3: Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Gargano. 2972 02:31:36,360 --> 02:31:41,560 Speaker 2: We are having some fun with the brain and uh. 2973 02:31:43,080 --> 02:31:51,440 Speaker 3: Going through the card, the NFL card tomorrow. You ready, boys, Stuart? 2974 02:31:52,600 --> 02:31:54,280 Speaker 3: All right, let's go quick because I want to make 2975 02:31:54,280 --> 02:31:59,879 Speaker 3: sure we get to everything. Bengals and Brown's all right, 2976 02:32:00,200 --> 02:32:03,240 Speaker 3: Bengals laying five and a half brain? 2977 02:32:04,560 --> 02:32:09,039 Speaker 7: Yeah for me game personally as a pass, I think 2978 02:32:09,080 --> 02:32:10,720 Speaker 7: it's the right number. Took me to that many on 2979 02:32:10,760 --> 02:32:14,199 Speaker 7: the road, but pass, I think it's the right number. 2980 02:32:15,400 --> 02:32:18,320 Speaker 4: I got the Browns and cover this game. I don't 2981 02:32:18,360 --> 02:32:21,320 Speaker 4: think they win, but I think that they're not as bad. 2982 02:32:21,440 --> 02:32:24,480 Speaker 4: The story around them is maybe worse than their actual team, 2983 02:32:24,640 --> 02:32:25,920 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like, I think they're gonna 2984 02:32:25,920 --> 02:32:28,240 Speaker 4: be just find this game, so I'll take them plus 2985 02:32:28,280 --> 02:32:30,400 Speaker 4: the plus. It's look, you get the best Joe Flacker. 2986 02:32:30,400 --> 02:32:32,360 Speaker 4: You probably get all seasons in this game, right, so 2987 02:32:32,800 --> 02:32:35,920 Speaker 4: it's nothing new. The Bengals, Honestly, they're slow starting, so 2988 02:32:36,080 --> 02:32:39,000 Speaker 4: win the game. But also to like the Bengals defense 2989 02:32:39,000 --> 02:32:41,680 Speaker 4: still stinks, Like whych the Browns scoring the Bengals? So 2990 02:32:41,720 --> 02:32:43,520 Speaker 4: give me plus five and a half here all right. 2991 02:32:43,560 --> 02:32:47,640 Speaker 2: I like it. The Buccaneers Falcons great match up in 2992 02:32:47,680 --> 02:32:48,080 Speaker 2: the NFC. 2993 02:32:48,280 --> 02:32:52,720 Speaker 7: South Brain, I like Atlanta to one this one, out right, 2994 02:32:53,200 --> 02:32:55,280 Speaker 7: I do. I was hoping i'd get a three. That's 2995 02:32:55,360 --> 02:32:58,680 Speaker 7: not gonna happen. No, I think Atlanta those win this game. 2996 02:32:59,240 --> 02:33:00,720 Speaker 7: They throwing down on one and a half. But I 2997 02:33:00,840 --> 02:33:02,880 Speaker 7: like Atlanta to win. So and take the Falcons. A 2998 02:33:02,920 --> 02:33:04,720 Speaker 7: lot of injuries for both sides, but I like Atlanta. 2999 02:33:05,120 --> 02:33:05,440 Speaker 2: Jeffery. 3000 02:33:06,040 --> 02:33:10,640 Speaker 4: If everyone has a team who they can never, they 3001 02:33:10,760 --> 02:33:13,480 Speaker 4: never like, get right, it minds the Falcons. Whatever side 3002 02:33:13,480 --> 02:33:16,120 Speaker 4: I wager on the other side wins. So I just 3003 02:33:16,120 --> 02:33:19,920 Speaker 4: stay away from Falcons games. So I have no thoughts 3004 02:33:19,920 --> 02:33:22,520 Speaker 4: on this. Well, I'll watch the game, of course. I 3005 02:33:22,640 --> 02:33:24,520 Speaker 4: think Baker probably throws for a lot of yards. I 3006 02:33:24,520 --> 02:33:26,640 Speaker 4: haven't looked at his number and yet, but I think 3007 02:33:26,720 --> 02:33:27,640 Speaker 4: I think Baker will. 3008 02:33:28,080 --> 02:33:31,480 Speaker 2: We'll have a big game, all right, nine Ers Seahawks. Brain. 3009 02:33:33,640 --> 02:33:37,199 Speaker 7: You know this was a game I initially bet Seattle. 3010 02:33:37,320 --> 02:33:38,640 Speaker 7: I'm sorry, yeah, I'm sorry. 3011 02:33:38,680 --> 02:33:39,240 Speaker 2: San Francisco. 3012 02:33:39,360 --> 02:33:42,320 Speaker 7: I laid one and a half when McCaffrey news came 3013 02:33:42,360 --> 02:33:44,160 Speaker 7: out and she's like, it's got n I's just have 3014 02:33:44,200 --> 02:33:46,920 Speaker 7: a lot of binged up guys, I got out of 3015 02:33:47,000 --> 02:33:48,960 Speaker 7: it again. I always say I'm looking to be right, 3016 02:33:49,120 --> 02:33:53,280 Speaker 7: not consistent. I like Seattle and Teezers right now. You 3017 02:33:53,360 --> 02:33:55,080 Speaker 7: can get them up to like plus seven and a 3018 02:33:55,120 --> 02:33:57,440 Speaker 7: half plus eight area. That'd be my favorite way to 3019 02:33:57,480 --> 02:34:00,200 Speaker 7: attack this game side itself. Right now, it's a total pass. Yeah, 3020 02:34:00,200 --> 02:34:01,879 Speaker 7: I just don't like the forty nine ers injury situation. 3021 02:34:02,200 --> 02:34:02,800 Speaker 7: I'm passing. 3022 02:34:03,360 --> 02:34:05,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not having the Seahawks this year. And then 3023 02:34:05,680 --> 02:34:08,279 Speaker 4: the McCaffrey thing is not good. Now they have Brian Robinson, 3024 02:34:08,320 --> 02:34:10,440 Speaker 4: so you know they might have solved themselves an issue 3025 02:34:10,480 --> 02:34:12,000 Speaker 4: for a long term. But I don't have anything for 3026 02:34:12,080 --> 02:34:12,400 Speaker 4: this game. 3027 02:34:13,080 --> 02:34:15,240 Speaker 2: Denver Tennessee brain. 3028 02:34:16,560 --> 02:34:20,000 Speaker 7: Love, love Denver and teases that's my favorite keys game 3029 02:34:20,000 --> 02:34:21,959 Speaker 7: of the week, probably the top elimination game of the week. 3030 02:34:22,320 --> 02:34:24,280 Speaker 7: I'm looking at. Look, I think Tennessee's a lot better 3031 02:34:24,320 --> 02:34:26,280 Speaker 7: than people expect. I bet them over five and a 3032 02:34:26,280 --> 02:34:29,640 Speaker 7: half season wins. I love what I'm like. Pamwoard seems 3033 02:34:29,640 --> 02:34:31,760 Speaker 7: like he's a winner, which I really like, a hard 3034 02:34:31,800 --> 02:34:35,160 Speaker 7: working guy and all that. Not a game on betting 3035 02:34:35,200 --> 02:34:37,840 Speaker 7: at the eighth, But I do think Denver, and I'm 3036 02:34:37,879 --> 02:34:39,960 Speaker 7: looking at objectively, I think Denver definitely does win this 3037 02:34:40,000 --> 02:34:41,960 Speaker 7: game by double digits. But my favorite way to attack 3038 02:34:42,040 --> 02:34:43,640 Speaker 7: it isn't teasers, Jeah. 3039 02:34:43,720 --> 02:34:46,080 Speaker 4: I have Titans under sixteen and a half points in 3040 02:34:46,160 --> 02:34:48,840 Speaker 4: this game. Just a really difficult spot for them in 3041 02:34:48,920 --> 02:34:51,480 Speaker 4: week one with a rookie quarterback. You know, we can 3042 02:34:51,560 --> 02:34:53,200 Speaker 4: debate bo Nicks all we want, but we know the 3043 02:34:53,280 --> 02:34:56,600 Speaker 4: Denver defense is really good. Tis offensive line still kind 3044 02:34:56,600 --> 02:34:59,119 Speaker 4: of going through some growing pains. I have the Titians 3045 02:34:59,200 --> 02:35:01,000 Speaker 4: under sixty and a half, sixteen a half points. 3046 02:35:00,840 --> 02:35:01,200 Speaker 2: In this game. 3047 02:35:01,480 --> 02:35:05,800 Speaker 3: All right, Rams Texans, the Rams laying three and a 3048 02:35:05,879 --> 02:35:08,440 Speaker 3: half talking about a bagged up team against the bagged 3049 02:35:08,520 --> 02:35:09,480 Speaker 3: up Texas brand. 3050 02:35:10,360 --> 02:35:13,320 Speaker 7: Well, mostly I'm seeing I'm seeing mostly threes, and actually 3051 02:35:13,360 --> 02:35:15,440 Speaker 7: it's mostly see a lot of threes out there. I'm 3052 02:35:15,440 --> 02:35:18,000 Speaker 7: gonna go with that. I like the Rams. I like 3053 02:35:18,080 --> 02:35:20,800 Speaker 7: the Rams. I don't Jeff, are we sure the Texans 3054 02:35:20,840 --> 02:35:22,920 Speaker 7: are good? I know they have a good quarterback, and 3055 02:35:23,000 --> 02:35:24,720 Speaker 7: I know they have a good defense. I get it, 3056 02:35:24,840 --> 02:35:27,600 Speaker 7: But man, that offensive line to be ugly. Yeah, the 3057 02:35:27,680 --> 02:35:30,640 Speaker 7: weapons on offense with no mixing. Now, the no Christian Kirk, 3058 02:35:30,879 --> 02:35:34,240 Speaker 7: it's Nico Collins or don't call it, don't pass though 3059 02:35:34,320 --> 02:35:36,640 Speaker 7: and collect a two hundred dollars. I think the Rams, 3060 02:35:36,760 --> 02:35:39,640 Speaker 7: as long as Stafford's playing, which is that's a good team. 3061 02:35:39,920 --> 02:35:41,320 Speaker 7: I say the Rams win this one at least to 3062 02:35:41,360 --> 02:35:42,920 Speaker 7: touch on one of my favorite games the league Rams 3063 02:35:43,000 --> 02:35:43,440 Speaker 7: Lang three. 3064 02:35:44,120 --> 02:35:45,560 Speaker 2: I'm very high in the Rams this season. 3065 02:35:45,600 --> 02:35:48,160 Speaker 4: I'm just staying away from them until I see Stafford 3066 02:35:48,240 --> 02:35:51,360 Speaker 4: play a game and determine he's like ready to be healthy. 3067 02:35:51,480 --> 02:35:53,640 Speaker 4: So I'm with you in the Rams in general this season. 3068 02:35:53,680 --> 02:35:56,320 Speaker 4: I think they're really good and if he is healthy, 3069 02:35:56,400 --> 02:35:59,040 Speaker 4: the Rams to me are going Nancy Championship game. But 3070 02:35:59,280 --> 02:36:00,960 Speaker 4: I need to see it before I wager on it. 3071 02:36:01,160 --> 02:36:02,920 Speaker 2: I have nothing for this one, all right. 3072 02:36:03,120 --> 02:36:08,800 Speaker 3: Four five the crown jewel of the late afternoon with 3073 02:36:09,000 --> 02:36:13,480 Speaker 3: the battle the Lions against the Packers. 3074 02:36:14,520 --> 02:36:15,560 Speaker 2: Wow, the two. 3075 02:36:16,959 --> 02:36:19,880 Speaker 3: You know who's the great challenger to the Eagles in 3076 02:36:19,920 --> 02:36:24,119 Speaker 3: the NFC. That game will have an answer brain. 3077 02:36:24,720 --> 02:36:26,440 Speaker 7: You know, Anthony. It's interesting. I've never seen a team 3078 02:36:26,480 --> 02:36:28,480 Speaker 7: that went fifteen and two that's talked about less than 3079 02:36:28,480 --> 02:36:32,880 Speaker 7: the Detroit Lions. Pretty fascinating, look tough game for me. 3080 02:36:32,959 --> 02:36:34,440 Speaker 7: I don't know if Mike is going to play. I 3081 02:36:34,600 --> 02:36:38,520 Speaker 7: did bet Detroit and teasers again from eight from two 3082 02:36:38,520 --> 02:36:39,760 Speaker 7: and a half up, to eight and a half because 3083 02:36:39,760 --> 02:36:41,480 Speaker 7: I think it's the Green Bay Wines game will certainly 3084 02:36:41,480 --> 02:36:45,000 Speaker 7: will not be by double digits. Very tough game for me, 3085 02:36:45,040 --> 02:36:46,320 Speaker 7: because I have a lot of respect. I think these 3086 02:36:46,320 --> 02:36:48,280 Speaker 7: could be the two best teams, guys in the NFC. 3087 02:36:48,560 --> 02:36:50,600 Speaker 7: I really believe that. I think they easily could. 3088 02:36:50,440 --> 02:36:51,880 Speaker 2: Be the two best games along with the Eagles. 3089 02:36:53,040 --> 02:36:57,240 Speaker 7: Yes, well, okay, yeah, along with the Eagles. Lean here 3090 02:36:57,280 --> 02:36:59,960 Speaker 7: Detroit guys, and I actually did bet them in teasers. 3091 02:37:00,800 --> 02:37:01,760 Speaker 2: I have nothing in this one. 3092 02:37:01,800 --> 02:37:03,720 Speaker 4: I will say that the loser might have some good 3093 02:37:03,840 --> 02:37:08,920 Speaker 4: value in the futures market vision or like a division 3094 02:37:08,959 --> 02:37:12,040 Speaker 4: winner type wager or a playoff wager, because you know 3095 02:37:12,120 --> 02:37:16,000 Speaker 4: the market will violently react to this game, and so 3096 02:37:16,360 --> 02:37:17,800 Speaker 4: you might be able to find yourself a good win 3097 02:37:17,879 --> 02:37:20,600 Speaker 4: total number, a good futures number on the loser of 3098 02:37:20,680 --> 02:37:21,040 Speaker 4: this game. 3099 02:37:22,840 --> 02:37:26,959 Speaker 2: I like it, all right, when's Jeff the idea? 3100 02:37:27,720 --> 02:37:31,480 Speaker 4: Oh jeez? I lean Packers ever so slightly, but it 3101 02:37:31,920 --> 02:37:33,280 Speaker 4: would surprise you the Lions one. 3102 02:37:33,200 --> 02:37:37,840 Speaker 2: Of course. All right, Sunday Night, the crowd, Jewel, the AFC, 3103 02:37:38,879 --> 02:37:39,240 Speaker 2: it is. 3104 02:37:41,040 --> 02:37:45,720 Speaker 3: V Josh Ravens, Bills, Dateline Buffalo. 3105 02:37:45,920 --> 02:37:47,040 Speaker 2: What do you got brain? 3106 02:37:48,280 --> 02:37:51,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, Lione looks we're looking at Baltimore lane one crazy 3107 02:37:51,240 --> 02:37:54,280 Speaker 7: that their favorite at the Mighty Bills, But you know what, 3108 02:37:54,640 --> 02:37:57,040 Speaker 7: I just think they're better. I really believe they're better. 3109 02:37:57,680 --> 02:38:00,640 Speaker 7: Watching that playoff game last year. Man, if I'm bar Ball, 3110 02:38:00,680 --> 02:38:03,440 Speaker 7: I'm just sick to my stomach because they clearly were 3111 02:38:03,480 --> 02:38:06,600 Speaker 7: better than Buffalo, just did everything except win the game. 3112 02:38:07,920 --> 02:38:10,200 Speaker 7: I like Baltimore. I think Baltimore wins. Not again my bet, 3113 02:38:10,320 --> 02:38:12,960 Speaker 7: but easy side for me. Baltimore or anything, just the 3114 02:38:13,000 --> 02:38:14,400 Speaker 7: better team. And I think they get a little bit 3115 02:38:14,400 --> 02:38:16,880 Speaker 7: of revenge in a regular season game. But Baltimore the 3116 02:38:16,920 --> 02:38:17,920 Speaker 7: better teams here, I think they win. 3117 02:38:18,240 --> 02:38:20,959 Speaker 4: Jeff I took Josh all over six and a half 3118 02:38:21,040 --> 02:38:25,040 Speaker 4: rush attempts in these In these games, he rushed the 3119 02:38:25,080 --> 02:38:27,640 Speaker 4: ball more than he does against Miami, and I think 3120 02:38:27,680 --> 02:38:29,240 Speaker 4: that this will be part of what they have to do, 3121 02:38:29,360 --> 02:38:32,120 Speaker 4: especially on third down, fourth down, those big moments. So 3122 02:38:32,240 --> 02:38:34,520 Speaker 4: I like playing Josh Allen in that prop market in 3123 02:38:34,600 --> 02:38:37,240 Speaker 4: these bigger type must win games for the Bills. 3124 02:38:37,760 --> 02:38:40,920 Speaker 3: All right, and the lastly quickly got about forty seconds 3125 02:38:41,400 --> 02:38:43,680 Speaker 3: parents Vikings Monday night. 3126 02:38:44,760 --> 02:38:47,720 Speaker 7: Right, I like to look. I bet the Vikings at 3127 02:38:47,720 --> 02:38:52,080 Speaker 7: the open plus two are now round minus one. Lean Vikings, 3128 02:38:52,600 --> 02:38:54,800 Speaker 7: Lean Vikings. I actually believe they're not that over forty 3129 02:38:54,840 --> 02:38:56,600 Speaker 7: three and a half. I actually think both teams are 3130 02:38:56,600 --> 02:38:58,800 Speaker 7: gonna have a little bit more success offensively than maybe 3131 02:38:59,200 --> 02:38:59,680 Speaker 7: the market. 3132 02:39:01,400 --> 02:39:04,480 Speaker 4: Jeff, I'm sorry, brother, Jeff. Stay away till I see 3133 02:39:04,520 --> 02:39:06,800 Speaker 4: both quarterbacks play interesting. 3134 02:39:06,920 --> 02:39:09,400 Speaker 2: I tell you, I lean with brain. 3135 02:39:09,480 --> 02:39:15,080 Speaker 3: I like Minnesota a lot flores early against Caleb. I 3136 02:39:15,320 --> 02:39:17,280 Speaker 3: think it's going to be an issue that'll do for 3137 02:39:17,360 --> 02:39:19,720 Speaker 3: us or everybody. We love you guys, have a great weekend. 3138 02:39:19,920 --> 02:39:20,600 Speaker 2: Fells around