WEBVTT - The Driver Era 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:04.800 Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of Inside the 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:08.039 Studio on iHeart Radio. My name is Jordan Runtug, but 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:11.360 enough about me. My guests today are a pair of brothers. 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:14.520 But unlike the Gallaghers, the Davies or the Everlei's, they 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:16.639 get along great, which is something of a rarity and 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:19.440 rock and roll. You probably became aware of them during 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:22.240 their tenure in the band Are Five before they struck 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:25.720 out on their own as a duo with their debut X. 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:29.440 Now they're back with their sophomore effort Girlfriend. It's an 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:32.920 eclectic blend that melds a diverse array of influences, ranging 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:36.080 from classic rock staples like In Excess and Bruce Springsteen 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:39.280 to nineties hip hop producers like Timberland. Will I Am 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:43.159 in the Neptunes the records at October fifte but fans 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:45.800 got an early taste with a string of recent singles 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:50.240 including Heaven Angel, Number One, Fan and Leave Me Feeling Confident. 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:53.080 I'm so happy to welcome Ross and Rocky Lynch of 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:55.720 the Driver era. I hope you enjoy our talk. Take 0:00:55.760 --> 0:01:03.160 a listen. You got a new album on the way, Girlfriend, 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.400 the first since your debut in You said that this 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:08.679 is your most eclectic work to date. I think there 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:10.679 was a quote about you saying that this was more 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:13.760 Rihanna like than your last album X. I wanted to 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.080 start there. What kind of influences went into the pot 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:19.679 for this? I mean, I guess it's kind of everything, 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:22.560 everything that we've ever grown up on or anything that 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:28.600 we've been influenced by recently. UM, it's such a it's 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.400 such an interesting question to answer because like we live 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:35.600 with music, like music always everywhere with us, UM, like 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:38.640 on on the best days, like music is playing all day, 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.040 you know what I mean? UM, And that could be 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:45.759 arranged from like Bob Marley to like freaking We've been 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:49.960 uh talking about a little Wayne recently because of his 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:53.080 UM he honestly just has an amazing career in some 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:57.960 amazing tracks as well, obviously, UM. And then like Cardi B, 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:06.480 like Pharrell, UM, I feel like there's always uh growing 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:09.160 up with Like there's a lot of like I don't know, 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:13.160 kind of like mineties like hip hop someone I guess 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:17.840 that influenced a lot of our production tendencies. And so 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:23.160 I mean Rolster said Farrell, you know, even like you 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:28.280 know Drey Uh some stuff that Jay Z has done, 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:31.760 Like we've been listening to a lot of that recently. Um, 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:34.080 and then it kind of like it goes all the 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:36.960 way to like for whatever reason, I was kind of 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:38.919 obsessed with and we both liked this a lot. But 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:41.400 like family opera, I listened to a lot of family opera, 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:47.440 so like it was, yeah, it was. It was a 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:51.080 white spectrum. Uh, and I I think that's kind of 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:54.160 why a lot of what we um, a lot of 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:58.920 what we do now usually a lot of our productions 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:03.240 tend to have a little a little like hip hop 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:05.560 R and B flair to him. And you know, we 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.360 always like to kind of just like, I don't know, 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:11.720 gloss it up with some with some some nice pop elements. 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:14.320 I feel like even more and more as we go. 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:19.440 Actually we're sort of like leaning more towards hip hop, 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:23.040 like the more music we make. Um, so I feel 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:27.559 like that had still yet to be uh fully accented 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:31.080 in our music, I guess, but there's undertones throughout for sure. 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.360 It's gonna say. I mean, I think you're three two 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:36.720 singles back, have an Angel. Let's started off as like 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:42.360 a hip hop freestyle, right kind of. Um, yeah, you 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:47.320 were kind of saying that it's a lot of a 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.600 lot of the melodies and parts that end up going 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:54.320 into songs usually are somewhat of like a I'm just 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:56.520 like a flow or like a freestyle so I have 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.960 an angel For instance, was um, I was in here 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:01.880 kind of working on in the song and Aweso's just 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:06.200 like over yonder by the fire kind acoustic guitar and 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:11.840 essentially it's like the same uh it's someone is the 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:15.600 same thing of like, oh, let me freestyle, but it 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.560 but you just are kind of doing it with like 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:23.359 an acoustic guitar and or you know, yeah, the genre 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:26.440 is is floating more in specifically that song, like a 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:30.679 little more like funky uh you know yeah, a little 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:35.039 funk pop rocking a little more. Now you're talking to 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:39.400 me from your your home studio. You've been insanely productive, 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:43.280 I think in you released I think five songs. How 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:46.719 much of this album was done during during Lockdown? In 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:48.400 the room that you're talking to me in right now, 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:51.440 was this uh, I hate to say Quarantine project, but 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:53.880 it was a lot of the stunt during Lockdown. Um 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.599 sort of towards the end of Lockdown. In the beginning 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.880 of Lockdown, it was a bit of an uninspired time, 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:03.680 you know, the world being shut down and and and 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:06.919 just like there's nowhere to go, nowhere to see. Um. 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:08.640 It was much more of a of a of a 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:12.520 self reflective time to to read and meditate and too 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:16.680 kind of get spiritual, I guess, um. So we so 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:18.000 we took a lot of our time to do that, 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:21.279 and then about halfway through we started picking up production again. 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.480 And yeah, you're right, this is this is where pretty 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:28.159 much it all happens, um, and pretty much all of 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.840 the Driver era has happened in this room. Actually, yeah, 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:36.400 there was on this album. We basically like wrapped and 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:42.039 finished everything in here. Um, but where the um some 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:46.240 songs were started and whatnot. It's you know, it's this room. 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:49.719 It's uh. In Vancouver, he hit a little spot we 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.680 had like a little uh baby grand you know, like 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:55.120 a little portable studio set up where some songs were 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:59.040 started and somewhat you know, not necessarily finished, but like 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.280 got to a good place and even back in our 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:07.960 old um, our old house, ye are. So there's a 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:09.880 little there's a track that we started like in the 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.400 living room in our our parents house. And there's another 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:17.280 there's another song that was worked on in our our 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:21.599 original studio, in our older band house, which was just 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:24.320 like a little guest house to a house in the valley. 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:29.040 And so it's there's a little bit of you know, 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.320 songs from different places, but they all ended up coming 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:36.880 together here in this room. I think your your latest 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:40.120 single leave Me Feeling Confident, I think is the oldest 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:41.960 track on this album, right, Can you tell me a 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:45.599 little bit about where the genesis of that track? Yeah, 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:49.680 so that one happened when we were between houses. Um, 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:54.560 we were just finished up a tour something. And on 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:59.240 that one we were on tour. Yeah, we're on tour. 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.920 That we had a little um, we made like a 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.080 little portable studio rig, like I don't know how many 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.599 years back. That's just kind of like always work, like 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:08.960 if you just have a mic, we have, you know, 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.400 a little interface that we can accord with. And that 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:15.600 was just a some night on tour that we just 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:17.960 we just brought it into a hotel room. I think, 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:20.680 I want to say, we have bus call that night 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:22.280 at like midnight, and so we were like, oh, it's 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.240 just going this room for a little they have to 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.040 fix the m o A. Is that why we had that? 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.720 What we have this keyboard, this like big keyboard, and 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:33.480 it's sometimes my functions and one of our texts has 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:35.880 to take it in and fix it. I think that 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:38.880 was what I think that's why we were in the 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.360 hotel room. Oh, because then he was working, he was 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:44.480 fixing the keyboard, and then we took that opportunity to 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.160 set up like the rest of the we're like we'll 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:51.000 hang out here. Yeah. And then and then, uh, I 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:54.240 just found this like weird little cord, that descending chord 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.520 thing and just thought it was all sorts of funky 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:00.920 and uh, it was just having a heyday with it. 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:04.240 We just loved it. The type of artists that have 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:06.960 like a million songs in the vault, like the people 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:08.680 that just sort of like can't stop right and then 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:10.760 when it comes to album time, you gotta do this 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:16.640 kind of massive culling process. Yeah, just getting the vibe talking, 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:19.200 it feels it feels like you're writing NonStop. I imagine 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.960 that you gotta get a whole lot in reserve. Yeah, 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:26.560 Like I mean, just yesterday, you know, we wanted it 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:30.360 was Sunday, We watched a little football um and then 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:32.720 somehow we found ourselves kind of just you know, back 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:34.400 at the house and we're like, all right, let's you know, 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:38.400 let's go in the studio and and we're we I 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:40.199 want to say we like we opened up like three 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:42.200 different songs that we have been messing up recently, and 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:46.280 they're you know, it's three brand new songs that we're 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:48.680 adding to this pile of Like I don't I don't 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:52.199 know how many kind of like idea wise, just exist 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:55.040 on our hard drive, but it's it's one of those 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:58.400 things we were like, we can't we can't help ourselves 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:05.280 but to want to find the next exciting hook, like 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:09.640 or like the next exciting beat or like. So so 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:12.360 sometimes we will end up having like five or six 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:14.559 of these songs that were just sort of like crafting 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.040 or letting them brew in the in the hard drive, 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:21.640 if you will, um. But then like you have five 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:23.520 or six songs over here, and then all of a sudden, 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.160 like Rocky starts playing a riff that's like super cool 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:28.640 we've never heard before, or like a drum beat comes 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:30.640 up and we're just we gotta jump on it. You 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:34.160 can't help ourselves. It's so weird. But so that's why 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:36.600 we have like thousands of songs and are hard drive 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:41.240 that hopefully we'll see the light of day eventually, are 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:44.000 you tinkers? Is it hard to like pet to let 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:47.319 a song go, like when you stop working on and say, okay, 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:51.320 you know what it's done? Yeah, definitely. Yeah, there's like 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:56.040 how do you know when it's done? It kind of 0:09:56.640 --> 0:10:00.559 I mean, whether it's like it's either managed mint it's 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.320 like okay, it's time to go, so we're like all right, 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:09.600 have it, or it's like this one's done, this needs 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:12.040 to see the light of day. Rocky stopp E quelling 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:15.839 that snare drum, Let's get this ship out here. Yeah, 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:20.760 like that, Like I want to say, actually, like like 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:27.240 right now, songs that aren't released, it's probably like maybe 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:30.440 like ten to fifteen that are common in like a 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:35.560 place probably, and it's like like the we like some 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:38.160 bounces of them, you know, like sitting on our phones, 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:43.080 you know, um, and they and they're they're basically finished, 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:45.520 but we probably won't actually be like all right, cool 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:52.240 it is until somehow there's like a somewhat of a deadline, 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.920 're like putting together an album or something so and 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:56.720 then we'll be like all right, cool, like you have 0:10:56.800 --> 0:11:00.079 to that one last thing we were like sitting on 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:04.040 money to take us like five minutes, um. But like 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:05.360 like if like in the back of my mind, like 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:07.400 I kind of know, like whatever, like something like it's 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:09.880 kind of done, but there's like these couple of things, 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:11.560 but like we'll do those couple of things when the 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:15.040 time comes. And that somewhat is like it's like I 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:18.400 don't know if we're a little bit like a little more. 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:23.360 I guess like better set up are like are like 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:27.520 efficiency of like working, Yeah, like we we might there 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:31.080 might be like you know, we probably get I also 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:34.079 think there's a there's a very vulnerable aspect to to 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:39.120 releasing music and letting it go and and um, we're 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:42.079 getting better at it for sure, but I think that 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:45.400 is also what maybe delays the release of some of 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:47.880 these songs is it's, first of all, we like to 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:50.280 live with the songs a little bit, like like we 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.600 were saying at the end of the day, like it's 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:54.400 nice to have the song just be ours for a 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:58.360 little while in case like there are big decisions or 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:02.440 changes that need to happen, um. And then also just 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:08.920 kind of putting off the inevitable feeling of like vulnerability. Yeah, 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:12.360 I guess what Is that just about you know, these 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:14.319 things are your babies, These things you put so much 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.280 work into and so much of your heart and emotions into. 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.880 You just nervous for What are you nervous about it? 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:24.439 Is it just judgment or or not being as good 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.800 as you you wanted to be? Or I think you 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:28.960 just always think it. I think I mean, you know, 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.280 because like even when I listened to songs on the 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.280 radio or I'm like listening to songs in my car, 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:35.760 I'm always like, oh, yeah, it can be simple. That's 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:39.560 okay too, you know. UM, but in the process of it, 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:42.520 you're thinking, like, oh, like people want to hear me, 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:46.560 be honest, and they want to hear me like shed 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:50.760 these layers or like they it needs to be more 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:54.599 than just like I love this ship. I guess sometimes 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:58.160 can hold you up, but it can also be simple. 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:01.600 And actually simple is is the best I don't know, 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:05.560 maybe it's just overthinking, but we've been, but we've that 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:07.760 was one of the best things about the pandemic is 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:12.200 it give us a second to like reconstruct what was 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:17.760 or um just kind of like reevaluate, like what's serving 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:23.280 us and what's not On a on a mental standpoint, um, so, 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:26.160 I'm actually really grateful for the pandemic gave me a 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:30.160 lot of time to like reconstruct, uh some of those 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:34.720 concepts for myself and and for for production and stuff. 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:38.360 It's good. Was that Leonardo da Vinci quote something like 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:44.160 Art's never finished, it's only abandoned. Yo. That is I 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.840 love that guy. That guy was a genius for sure. 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.520 Isn't there something I want to say? It's want of 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:56.160 it's either cam or with some some one of those 0:13:56.160 --> 0:14:00.000 guys is like painting something and you like you like, yeah, 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:04.280 is is it uh? Or or there's like like working 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:07.360 over like twelve years or some ship the Mona Lisa? Yeah, 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.080 is it that? Yeah? And he's like he's like like 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:13.679 he's like doing like he's like a juststing, like barely anything, 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.480 like he like carries it around with like years something 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.880 like is it that it's the Lisa? Is that? Yeah? 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:21.680 I think that? Where am I thinking of Michael Angelo? 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.800 I think it's the Mona Lisa. I know Michael Angelo 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:29.760 was working on the Sistine Chapel for some ridiculous length 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.280 of time. I don't know. I'm not sure though I 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:35.320 can see them both doing it, to be honest. So it, 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:37.480 says Leonardo be I mean, this is just some random 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.040 Google thing. Leonardo begins paying the Mona Lisa, which he 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:44.040 will work on for four years. According to Leonardo Deo, 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:49.120 well yeah, I'm pretty sure he thought it was bad too. 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:54.360 I mean, do you are you that way? Like when 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:56.880 you release your out I mean, if you're listening to 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.520 your first album X for example, like I do listen 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.480 to it's like, oh man, that you know that high hat, 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:04.200 we could have done something with that high hat and 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.960 that snare or that that that base sounds too trebly 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:10.040 or something. I mean, do you are you ever satisfied 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:13.920 with what you do? Um? I think on a on 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:19.280 a on a vibe level, yes, like whenever you like, 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.760 whenever like a track, or like a pocket a sense 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:27.920 for rhythm or or like those ways, It's easy to 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:32.680 be satisfied. Um. The hardest thing to be satisfied about, 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:36.480 I found is is about my voice, because I've been 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.720 I've been doing this for a long time, and uh, 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.360 it's almost funny now actually, like I can go back, 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.480 like literally, I can go back and listen to a 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:46.920 song that I did ten years ago, which I don't 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:50.000 think a lot of people can say um and just 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:53.000 and just hear like fifteen year old me like singing 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:56.280 a track and it's almost hilarious because I'm like, wow, 0:15:56.320 --> 0:16:00.600 I sounds so young. It's like but it's it, but 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:04.800 you know, yeah, it's it's more hilarious than it than 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:08.240 it is anything else. I think it kind of goes 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.480 both ways to like if we go you know, dive 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.680 into X uh, I guess it's someone inevitable to be 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.320 like all right, cool, like you could have like you said, oh, 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:19.120 like you know, there's always mixed things. I feel like, 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.920 uh yeah, which you know you're like, oh, like you 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.560 can have more low one Like I'm I'm always like 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.680 like guilty of be like you know, we need more 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.840 lower Like I'm always just like like just trying to 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.720 crank the low end. I'm a bass player, so I 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:34.960 I really I feel like okay, okay, yeah. So like 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:38.240 there's there's dona be that, and then there's um. There 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:42.720 are times where you know, uh say, we haven't listened 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:44.840 to a song on there for like a second, maybe 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:49.240 like a year, and we'll stumble upon it somehow maybe 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.480 like I don't maybe some will play it or we'll 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:53.800 be like oh, we'll like bump it or something, and 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.680 there are moments of like, oh night, like nice job 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.320 rockety Ross from but years ago, I say, like that 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.960 was kind of like you kind of can like I 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.240 don't want you get to a point where you worried. 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:11.000 Is I don't know, it's you're just like okay, like 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:13.600 I see what y'all were doing. I don't know, it's 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.760 it's it's good sometimes. Yeah, sometimes like a year out 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:21.000 or like maybe more, you can like revisit things and 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.119 it definitely gives you a feeling of mom, you know, 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:25.680 you can buy yourself on the back. It's a good 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:40.840 feeling for sure. Yeah. I mean this is probably a 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:44.119 nice segue while we're talking about judging our ourselves to 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:47.359 talk about number one fan, let's like get into the 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:51.840 you know, fans, the positive reinforcement your your recent single, 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:55.040 second most recent single. Uh, tell me more about that. 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.159 Where did that that title come from? The message of 0:17:57.200 --> 0:18:00.920 that song? UM kind of has a lot of messages. 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:06.879 I think initially it was always about UM my girlfriend 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.280 H who is an artist as well and and really 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:17.919 talented artists and UH and UH want and you know, 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:20.680 just I don't know how personal I want to get 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:26.080 about Uh, Essentially, it's about just being like, hey, like 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:30.080 I like, I've definitely made mistakes, like everyone makes mistakes, 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:33.520 but I'm here and uh and I want to do 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:38.360 my best and um, I'll be your number one fan, 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.560 like I'll be there for you, uh and I'll be 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:45.120 support I'll be supportive of of of of us, of us, 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:49.119 you and us um and then and then this the 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:52.800 the other side to that song is wanting to be 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:56.920 your own number one fan, you know, because because oftentimes, 0:18:57.119 --> 0:19:00.199 especially in art, the artist is you're you're of the 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:03.040 person holding yourself back like share like you might get 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:07.760 like positive praise, negative praise, whatever, it doesn't even matter. 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.760 But at the end of the day, it's it's like 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:16.440 up to you to do it or to not do it. Um. 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:20.120 And so it's also about like you're on number one 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:24.199 fan and like, dude, what you love kinda uh do 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:27.679 you want to add anything onto that? Uh ir for 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:31.639 some reason, like to mention this, but that's like somewhat 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:37.679 of uh when like that song uh, like we we 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:39.840 had a track four and once we kind of started 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:43.960 um thrown on you know, a top line and whatnot. 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:46.360 It was right around this time when Ross fell out 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:49.160 a treat and I don't like, I don't know why. 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:51.080 I feel like it's it's relevant to the verse. He 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:56.719 thinks this is funny because it's like like to me, 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:59.680 it like it like kind of sparked like the let 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:04.280 down moment of like the verse um like literally fell 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:07.080 out of a tree. Yeah, Like he literally hit concrete. 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:10.439 He was like hurt and hurt. Yeah, he was like, 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:12.879 I don't know how many tie up I had to 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:16.560 have been fifteen or two. The branch breaks underneath him 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:19.280 and he just just his cement and which is a 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:23.480 terrifying feeling. Yeah, you're right, you're the ground like fell 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:26.840 out from under you. Dude. It's not a fun feeling. 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:30.760 So at that point, not only are you like, well, 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:32.840 I I don't really know how people feeling, but okay, 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:35.160 like I was pissed. Yeah, you're like do you feel 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:38.800 some extreme pain and your and somewhat whether that pain 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:43.760 or something that or not, you're like somewhat maybe feeling low. Uh, 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:45.359 And to me, it kind of like sets up the 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:48.439 arc of the song of like I don't know, like 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:52.120 coming back around like being like I got you somehow, 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:54.640 Like in that moment, I feel like I got you, 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:58.919 so like yeah to me and to me it just 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:03.080 paints like this some song coming. Yeah, I'm like, oh, okay, 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:05.639 it's got out of a Treatum song makes sense now, 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:10.400 I don't know, dude. Any of the feelings that went 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:15.800 into Number one Fan inspire the title for the album Girlfriend. Yeah, yeah, 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:18.720 I mean like girl girl. The reason we like the 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:21.399 name girlfriend is because it it really tied all the 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:25.960 songs together. Well, um, but yeah, I think I think 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:29.520 Number one Fan is is um probably one of the 0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:35.280 best songs under the title. Probably. Yeah, you mentioned uh 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:37.239 the song I'm Gonna make sure I'm saying all right 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:42.920 crazy Baby spelled differently um as being a standout track 0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:44.840 in the album. What is it about that song that 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:48.840 really makes it special for you? The things we'd like 0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:52.119 to say about that song is, uh, it's kind of 0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:53.920 the first song because you know, what we're talking about 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:56.399 having an angel house is kind of like, you know, 0:21:56.480 --> 0:22:01.080 there's uh someone just like a flow and of some 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:08.560 of like a freestyle. Uh. Crazy Baby was somewhat uh 0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:10.720 in that same way, But it's kind of the first 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:14.600 song where we both just did that and and did 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:17.440 our part separately. Because growing up, you know you're going 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:21.000 to sessions and whatnot, and it's like you're making you're 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:23.159 making a song some a couple of people that you 0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:26.040 just met that day, and you're like sitting on a verse. 0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:28.159 You're like trying to write this verse with these with 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:31.040 these people for like two hours or whatever, and everyone 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:33.440 was like throwing out all these words on like what 0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:36.040 of James Dean reference, Yeah, just like hod like the 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:42.159 like your most typical like songwriter words and sentences and 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:49.400 crazy baby is uh is exactly not that, it's it's 0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:53.960 I I got back from I came back from my 0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:58.720 girlfriend's apartment actually, and Ross was in here. Um he 0:22:58.840 --> 0:23:00.879 just had that song up. He had I think you 0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:06.280 just started. Just like a lot of our workflow is 0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:09.960 um which we do. We do, you know, we're kind 0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:11.600 of hands on with everything when it comes to the music, 0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:13.720 but a lot of times I'm a little more producer 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:17.080 and he's a little more um top liney. But I 0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:20.479 got back and he was in here do the majority 0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:22.919