1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm. 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 2: Strong and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty. 4 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: Thank you to those so often forgotten by the politics 5 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 3: of our city who made this movement their own. I 6 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: speak of Yemeny bodega owners. 7 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: And Mexican upwellas. 8 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 3: Senegalese taxi drivers and who's beck nurses, Trinidadian lime cooks, 9 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 3: and Ethiopian aunties. 10 00:00:52,560 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: Yes, aunties. That's some pretty good smack right there. Oh yeah, yeah. 11 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: He is a fabulous talented populist and a Marxist and 12 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: Islamist and incredibly dangerous, but he's skilled. 13 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah. 14 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 4: And one of the problems with that. And while it's 15 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 4: nice that you want to stand up for that crowd 16 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 4: you just mentioned, you also need the kind of regular 17 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 4: makes a lot of money taxpayer to fund everything. And 18 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 4: if they decide you ain't, you ain't helping me in anyway. 19 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 4: They're they're a outsy. 20 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: Yes, Margaret Thatcher reminded us, sooner or later, you run 21 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: out of other people's money to spend. So that's uh 22 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: zoron Mumdani obviously is victory speech in New York City 23 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: last night. I'm reminded of the uh, the great transition 24 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: Marxism made after the whole workers of the world unite 25 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: thing failed. 26 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: Excuse me, uh, it failed. 27 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: Completely because the workers of the world were like, I 28 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: kind of have a good deal up for shop form 29 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: and I'm making a decent living and blah blah blah. 30 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: So communism failed to spread, and so it became I 31 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: won't bore you with the details, but it became outsiders 32 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: of the world unite, sexual outside immigrants, ethnic outsiders. That's 33 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: why he went through that long list. I'm with you, 34 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: We're going to overthrow the evil system anyway, So one 35 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: more chunkiness speech. 36 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 4: And still think it is interesting that Bill Maher referred 37 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 4: to him as a Communist on his HBO show of 38 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 4: Friday Night. 39 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's probably true. 40 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 4: Bill Maher grew up in New York and as a 41 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 4: lifelong Democrat and voted for Kamala Harris that Bill Maher 42 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 4: refers to mom Donnie as a communist. 43 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: Here is a key moment from his speech last night. 44 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 3: After all, the conventional wisdom would tell you that I 45 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: am far from the perfect candidate. I am young, despite 46 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: my best efforts to grow older. I am Muslim. I 47 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 3: am a Democratic Socialist, and most damning of all, I 48 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: refuse to apologize for any of this. 49 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: Nobody's asked you to apologize for being Muslim, per se. 50 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 1: Uh So, when the Democratic Socialists of America and he 51 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: pledges his loyalty to them, were founded in nineteen eighty two, 52 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: is by this guy by the name Michael Harrington, who 53 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: was a public intellectually as an organizer, and the democratic 54 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: part of it was really important. He was anti Communist 55 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: in pro Israel for his entire life. And while he 56 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: opened the doors of the DSSA to Leninists, Marxist Trotskyists, 57 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: and other aging radicals, the official line of the DSA 58 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: was pretty comparable to like a Ted Kennedy or a 59 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: George McGovern just a left lefty of the past. 60 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 4: I've never been able to wrap my head around Trotskyism 61 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 4: versus Leninism versus whatever. And I've tried a bunch of times. Yeah, yeah, 62 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 4: I just it's all crap. So what Brandon crap it is? 63 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 4: I just I run out of patience. 64 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: But so, for instance, the DSA wanted to raise the 65 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: minimum wage bad idea of nationalized health insurance they weren't 66 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: openly calling for the proletariat sees the means of production, etc. 67 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: And then Eli Lake in The Free Press points out 68 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: that now the DSA is a very, very different beast 69 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: than what Harrington founded in nineteen eighty two. Today the 70 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: DSA is run by activists enamored with the authoritarian left. 71 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: It's comrades attend talks at the Cuban mission to the 72 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: United Nations to hear from the regime's deputy Foreign Minister. 73 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: It's national program calls for a new constitution that replaces 74 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: the House and Senate with a single federal legislature and 75 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: places quote workers in charge of the government. 76 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: What the hell does that mean? 77 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: Well, it reminds me of DEI. We want diversity. What 78 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: does that mean? It means people who think exactly what 79 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: we mean, exactly what we think, and will claim it's 80 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: about race because Americans are afraid to be racist. 81 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: But it's entirely ideological. 82 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: You name a time they brought in a black conservative 83 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: to some DEI pro It will never ever happen. 84 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 2: It's a canard, it's a head fake. Anyway. 85 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: The DSA supports prison abolition, literally emptying the prisons. 86 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: To respond to that, Yeah, believe in jail okay. 87 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: Last year, the DSA signed onto an open letter respecting 88 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: the rigged election in Venezuela, even after virtually every independent 89 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: observer and Latin American governments said its dictator, Nicholas Medora, 90 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: had stolen it. 91 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 4: Uh. 92 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: DSA former member Jake Altman was interviewed for the Breaking 93 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: History podcast and he said, quote, it's very clear that 94 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: these Trotskyist groups, these Marxist Leninist groups, these Maoist groups, 95 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: they're a voting block in the national organization. They control 96 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: a majority of the votes. So there's this real tension 97 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: between the people who have more pragmatic means and people 98 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: who are these purists who believe they're going to start 99 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: a vanguard party and have a revolution. This time around, 100 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: the DSA is about to win the biggest election in 101 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: the history. At the very moment, the party itself has 102 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: been hijacked by illiberal revolutionaries who literally display hammers and 103 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: sickles in their social media profiles the way edge Lord 104 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: white nationalists bear swastikas. Maurice Issermon, an original member of 105 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: the DSA who quit two years ago, after the party 106 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: not only failed to condemned Hummas for October seventh, but 107 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: celebrated it. He describes these new articles as entriists. In 108 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: a blistering essay for the Nation in twenty twenty three 109 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: and the Nation is a lefty publication, he wrote that 110 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: these radical caucuses achieved an effective majority inside the DSA 111 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: in August twenty three and have been consolidating power ever since. 112 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: The radicals, he wrote, quote, believed that DSA members elected 113 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: to public office were first and foremost obliged to follow 114 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: the positions adopted by the organization, rather than that their 115 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: constituents are their own conscience, as if they were already 116 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: simple ordinate to the dictates of an old fashioned Marxist 117 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: Leninist central committee. One DSA messaging kit after October seventh 118 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: highlighted the new radicalism. Quote Resistance comes in all forms, 119 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: armed struggle, general strikes, and popular demonstrations. Not only do 120 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: do they not, you know, decry political violence, they call 121 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: for it. Responses like this led Isserman and a handful 122 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: of other DSA members to resign and protest, among them 123 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: comedian Sarah Silverman, who posted on Instagram, all caps FU, 124 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: You're not real Democratic socialists, and you sure as f 125 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: aren't liberal. 126 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: Anyway. 127 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: They are hard core Marxist Leninists, and they're proud of it. 128 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: They don't hide it. 129 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: They tell you what they are, they tell you who 130 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: they are, and they tell you what they're trying to do. 131 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 4: And first first words out of his mouth last night 132 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 4: were from Eugene Debs, the most successful socialist in American history. 133 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: And now this accident. He had written. 134 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 4: He knew he was gonna win, and he wrote his 135 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 4: speech right, And we have this weird laziness defense mechanism. 136 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: What is it, Jack, You can tell me what it 137 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: is that in the US we think, come on, those 138 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: people will never get over. It'll never happen here. They'll 139 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 1: they'll come and they'll go this is a fad. 140 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: It'll be fine. Yeah. 141 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 4: George Will was writing about this in the Washington Post 142 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 4: about how every generation or so you have to re 143 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 4: teach people that socialism doesn't work. It is interesting that 144 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 4: because we are the best example in world history of 145 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 4: free market self governance working, we just assume that everybody 146 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 4: gets it by looking around, and we've got the highest 147 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 4: standard of living anybody's ever had in world history. 148 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 2: What do you mean you hate your own country. What 149 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: do you mean you want to change systems? Right? Right? 150 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: You know, I just did a long read about both 151 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: Cambodia and Somalia, how the promises of socialism turned into 152 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: communist totalitarianism and the horrors that followed. And we're made 153 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: of much much stronger stuff than those places. I'm not 154 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: claiming we're like a teetering, little, brand new republic that's 155 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: had one election under its belt, but that kind of 156 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: that over confidence that leads us to, for instance, let 157 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: the radical left educate our children for a few generations 158 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: and think, yeah, that's not good. But I'm not gonna 159 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: worry about it. I'm not going to go to a 160 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: school board meeting. It's not that big a deal. I'm 161 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: telling you. We are going to reap what we sewed. 162 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: Wake up, friends, Michael, isn't it time to play the 163 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: Joe Getty cold warrior sound? 164 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: I mean, god, cold warrior. 165 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: And I hate to undermind my own point with humor, 166 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: but this is not the paranoid ramblings of a crazy 167 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: old guy. This this is so well documented over and 168 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: over in history how these movements get power and how 169 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: they exploit it. I'm trying to tell you. It can 170 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: happen here. It'll be a hell of a battle. But 171 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: and they won't get over like Cambodia. But what I'm 172 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: saying is the further we let it go, it's like 173 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: a disease, an infection. The further we let it go, 174 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: the more painful it will. 175 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: Be to beat it back. Maybe that's the rallying cry. 176 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 4: The hope, of course, is that he is going to 177 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 4: He's going to be the bad example, a good example 178 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 4: of a bad example, of a bad result, and display 179 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 4: for the whole country on the biggest stage why this 180 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 4: doesn't work. 181 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: Hopefully that's what happens. Yeah. 182 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: The problem is, and we talked about this at length yesterday. 183 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: If you didn't get it, subscribe to the podcast Armstrong 184 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: and Getting on demand, is that socialism is built on 185 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: the excuse of no, they didn't let us do it 186 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: our way, they didn't let it just do it completely. 187 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: The money guys in New York stopped what could have 188 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: been the revolution. Blah blah blah, and the dewey I 189 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: dumb ass youngsters will say, yeah, yeah, we didn't really 190 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: get to try it. We got ninety eight percent of it, 191 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: but that last two percent, that was the two percent. 192 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: That mattered, So let's try it again. 193 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 4: So and then you could end up with since forty 194 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 4: percent of the young people identified themselves as socialists last night, 195 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 4: then you end up with something like seventy percent of 196 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 4: young people identifying him, and you got a big enough 197 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 4: number of voters. It's not just the mayor, it's the 198 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 4: whole city council, and you know, handful of state representatives, 199 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 4: and you actually start to get some. 200 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: Power, rights to do some things. And they do have 201 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: that increasingly, Like the. 202 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: How did the election go in Minneapolis where that Marxist 203 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: Somali refugee was running for mayor? 204 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: They were still counting. 205 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 4: They were still counting as of this morning in both 206 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 4: of those races. 207 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there are a couple other socialists running out. 208 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: It's definitely a tide that is trickling in. 209 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 4: Heck of a thing. Irma gird will be fun to watch. 210 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 4: The American experiment has gone so beautifully. We've decided nothing 211 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 4: can ever threaten. 212 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: It, and we got to take a break. 213 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 4: But you know, a week or so ago, when he 214 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 4: was talking about his auntie who was afraid to wear 215 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 4: a job on ther you live in such a islamophobic city, 216 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 4: they elected an unqualified Muslim as mayor. That's how islamophobic 217 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 4: New York is. You're standing up in front of a 218 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 4: cheering crowd you won by twenty twenty five points and 219 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 4: claiming that you overcame. He actually said, we don't have this. 220 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 4: In one of them, he actually said, against all odds, 221 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 4: against all odds, you were twenty five points. 222 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: I had the entire race. He ran against an elderly 223 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: groping crook. Where's the against all odds part? And all 224 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: the dewey eyed kids slap it all up? Yeah, yes, 225 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: we did it. He did it against all odds. 226 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 2: Any thoughts on any of that? 227 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 4: Our text line four one five two nine five kftcar. 228 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 4: It was supposed to be a half day hunting trip 229 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 4: in woods that Ron Daily knew well until one wrong turn. 230 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 5: And when I went down this hill, we going, oh God, 231 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 5: this seemed good. And in about three o'clock it started snowing. 232 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 4: No way out, no way to communicate, and almost no supplies. 233 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 5: And I had fourteen bottles of water, about nine hundred 234 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 5: calories were the food with. 235 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 4: Me weeks past, and all Daily had left was his faith. 236 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 5: Then on day twenty, God woke me up at six 237 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 5: forty five Saturday morning, he goes wrong, get your boots on. 238 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 2: Skoolwalking Daily calls. What happened next a miracle. 239 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 5: And they started yelling my name and they drove up 240 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 5: to me. It was his phenomenal three great men and 241 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 5: they saved my life. 242 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 4: Okay, we're still missing some details here. So he's older 243 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 4: than I was picturing. From the sound of it. We 244 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 4: did this story yesterday. The guy is stranded out in 245 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 4: the woods for three weeks. 246 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty days. 247 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 4: That's a long time. And my first and he didn't 248 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 4: leave his spot, it seems. And my first question was, 249 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 4: why don't you start walking the road You couldn't get 250 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 4: your car up, but walk straight back out the way. 251 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: You came in. I mean three weeks is a long time. Yeah. 252 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: I have to know where what sort of terrain he 253 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: was in. He was at the bottom of the hill 254 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: because he couldn't get back up. What made him think 255 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: staying there was a good strategy? If he was an 256 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: experienced woodsman, maybe he has an explanation, but I'd like 257 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: to know what it is. 258 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 6: From the looks of it, it looked kind of like 259 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 6: a rock querry, really off like off balanced terrain. It 260 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 6: was snowing, and he's he's sixty five years old. 261 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm going to stay here in this hole? Yeah, 262 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. 263 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: Uh, I don't love that as a strategy. I wasn't there. 264 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be smug. I just don't get it. 265 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't necessarily want to wander off into 266 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: the cold and snow either. 267 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: But you gotta three weeks. 268 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: You gotta assess what are my chances of being seen 269 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: here down in this hole? 270 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: Do you have a cell phone? 271 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 6: Sounds like he didn't because they said he had no 272 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 6: way of communicating. 273 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, there are plenty of places out there in 274 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: the wilds where a cell phone might as well be wrong. 275 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 4: Don't you have the if you got to know the 276 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 4: satellite call, if you got a newer cell phone anywhere 277 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 4: on the planet Earth, you just find the satellite in 278 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 4: the sky and you can text people. 279 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 2: I do it all the time. Maybe he didn't know, 280 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: Maybe he didn't satellite in the sky. How do you 281 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: do that? Do you go up into the sky looking 282 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: for it? Okay, interesting talking about it. I'm not just 283 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: gonna keep yelling from explaining yourself. 284 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 4: I thought everybody had used this technology it's amazing. 285 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: Explains it to you on your phone. 286 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 4: It says no cell service, find a satellite, and it 287 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 4: tells you which direction to point, and it shows the 288 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 4: sound lights. It says, lock onto that one, and you 289 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 4: just put your phone that way. 290 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: Anywhere on the planet. You could be on the middle 291 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: of the ocean. 292 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 4: And then as soon as you lock onto that satellite, 293 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 4: you can text anybody just like you got cell service. 294 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, what a great time to be alive. 295 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: Communists are taking over the country, but the technology is 296 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: pretty cool. 297 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's amazing. So yeah, so you know, if you're 298 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 4: going to go off into the middle of by just 299 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 4: the three weeks, that is a long time. How long 300 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 4: was he willing to wait? Since people showed up after 301 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 4: three weeks? Was he just gonna go ahead and start. 302 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: Death out there? 303 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give this staying in a hole plan I 304 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe three weeks nobody comes bay, I'm gonna. 305 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: Climb out of the hole and take a walk. He's 306 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: incredibly patient. Yes, that's what we should admire. 307 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: His patient thinking three four days in, I'm rubbing my chin, thinking, 308 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, maybe plan B and. 309 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: Hey, he had fourteen bottles of water. 310 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 6: That's pretty good. Those people don't just have fourteen bottles 311 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 6: of water on, you know, on them. 312 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was fortunate. Saved his life probably. Man, it's 313 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 2: a long time. What do you do all day? Every day? 314 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 2: What's another song? I could whistle? 315 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 4: Okay, we got more on the waist there, Armstrong and Get. 316 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 7: The Subway just released new holiday sandwiches, including a. 317 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: Turn hen Can, which is. 318 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 7: Which is a combo of turkey, ham and chicken. Get 319 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 7: The turre hen Can features three types of meat, just 320 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 7: like their tuna. 321 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 4: For some reason, yesterday I made a sandwich with some 322 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 4: left over try tip and I didn't have very much, 323 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 4: so I put a couple of slices of the last 324 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 4: of my ham on top of it because I'd nevery 325 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 4: much of that. And the combination of the two. Damn it. 326 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 2: That was a good sandwich. How interesting? I don't know, 327 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: old Yeah, so good. 328 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: Combining the swine with the cow controversial. 329 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 2: The whole barnyard. So Neil Katel name for it, the 330 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: barnyard sandwich. Back to you. 331 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 4: I don't know the names of many high profile lawyers, 332 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 4: but I do know this one. 333 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: Neil Kattel. 334 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 4: He is he represents whoever will hire him All kinds 335 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 4: of different stuff, and he's just one of the best 336 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 4: arguers in the world, and he ends up in front 337 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 4: of the Supreme Court all the time and has over 338 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 4: some of the biggest issues of our lives. Even if 339 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 4: you don't remember his name, he's in front of the 340 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 4: Supreme Court today. I don't even know which side he's on. 341 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 4: I suppose we'll be able to figure it out from 342 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 4: the conversation he he's in the Supreme Court today where 343 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 4: they're trying to figure out whether or not Donald Trump 344 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 4: actually does have the legal right to get into all 345 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 4: these tariffs solely on his order. Let's listen to a 346 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 4: little from the oral arguments going forward. 347 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 8: The solution they said in footnote thirty three was to 348 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 8: use Section one twenty two of the nineteen seventy f 349 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 8: or A Trade Act fifteen percent one hundred and fifty days. 350 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 8: So we have no problem with the president doing that. 351 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 8: It's just that this president has torn up the entire 352 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 8: tariff architecture. You know, for example, he's teriffing Switzerland, one 353 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 8: of our allies, which we have a trade surplus thirty 354 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 8: nine percent. That is just not something that any president 355 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 8: has ever had the power to do. In our history, 356 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,479 Speaker 8: and the idea that Congress by implication did this in 357 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 8: nineteen seventy seven and handed him all this power I 358 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 8: think is really difficult. 359 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 4: Okay, So making the argument, well, this has been true 360 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 4: about the whole TARFF thing from the beginning, right, So 361 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 4: they they come up with what they think will be 362 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 4: the rationale, kind of case by case. It's a fentanyl, Yeah, 363 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 4: that's it. It's a national emergency. That's why it's a 364 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 4: trade imbalance. It's a trade imbalance. That's a national emergency, 365 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 4: except for it's not here. It's just an an I 366 00:19:55,640 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 4: guess revenue or I've got a long held beef that 367 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 4: we're such a dominant economy we can bend other people 368 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 4: to our will, which I think is really it. 369 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, we can strong arm a better deal and 370 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: they will pay dearly to sell it in our shopping mall. 371 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: It's not an insane notion, it's just an unconstitutional one 372 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: in my opinion. 373 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 4: So, speaking of the economy, I was listening to a 374 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 4: podcast about the economy the other day, is actually a 375 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 4: Dispatch podcast, and they got into the whole our current 376 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 4: debt and thirty five trillion dollars or whatever the heck 377 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 4: it is, and how something that can't continue will end 378 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 4: as we all know, and what it's going to look like. 379 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 2: Anyway, they got into. 380 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 4: The whole argument of we're not as good a risk 381 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 4: as we used to be on the world stage for 382 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 4: people to invest their money in the United States around 383 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 4: the world. But the point being, if we're ever not 384 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 4: the best pace to put your money, where you put 385 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 4: your money is not the issue. You need to not 386 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 4: invest in like you know, tech in Germany. You need 387 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 4: to invest in bullets and food because everything has come 388 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 4: off the rails in a way that the world has 389 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 4: never seen. 390 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 2: Ah, which makes sense. I right, right, Yeah, Okay. 391 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 4: That's the level of crisis we'd be talking about if 392 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 4: we ever aren't the best place to park your money. 393 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: Right, Wow, what an interesting insight that I'd say it is. Yeah, 394 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: it rings true too, yesh. 395 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 2: I hope that doesn't happen in my lifetime. 396 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 4: There are a number of things I kind of am 397 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 4: looking forward to happening in my lifetime, even if they 398 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 4: they're good, like watching the whole young people are Socialists 399 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 4: thing play out. How's that gonna work? It's gonna suck, 400 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 4: I think, and I worry about where it's going to go, 401 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 4: But man, I don't want the really bad everybody else 402 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,959 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, completely bro. You thought you had 403 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 4: worked your whole life and saved and things were okay, 404 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 4: and it turns out you're not. I don't want to 405 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 4: lift through that. It's happened in many countries throughout history, 406 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 4: including this one in the thirties. 407 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: I don't even want to think about that. O don't either. 408 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: It's too horrifying. Yes it is, here's one for you. No, 409 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna say it. 410 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 2: It's too nightmarish. No, I can't. 411 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 4: Wow, you've come up with a night Does it include 412 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 4: a radiation and a lizard getting really tall and smashing 413 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 4: buildings with its feet? 414 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 2: How'd you know in subway trains? 415 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? 416 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: No, here it is. 417 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: And I think about this more than I should. Where's 418 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: your money? I'm asking everybody it's held in this account, 419 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: that account, unless you got gold bars buried in your backyard. 420 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: China has already hacked into our various financial systems, and 421 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: they just either wipe everybody's books clean or render it 422 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: impossible to transfer funds electronically in any way. 423 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: For years. 424 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 4: I don't know if it have to be years. I 425 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 4: don't even know how many days it would have to 426 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 4: be before things would get really crazy. 427 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: I mean we had both, We and many many folks 428 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: listening have been working their entire lives and saving and 429 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: doing the right things. But I don't know about you. 430 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: My money is essentially being held in little zeros and 431 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: ones sure on a server symptoms right exactly. I can 432 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: call up you know this and then Charles Schwaber whoever's 433 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: got you know this chunk of my money and say, hey, dudes, 434 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: just last week you had X amount of my money. 435 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: I need some of it now. And they're like, if 436 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: it's not on this screen, don't funny thing about that. Yeah, yeah, 437 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. And yet the Chinese act 438 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: into our computers, so I don't know if you've got 439 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 1: one hundred bucks or one hundred million bucks, good luck 440 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: with that click. 441 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 2: You think they'd hang out with it so well, they're 442 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 2: tired of taking calls from people like me. They're fed up. 443 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 2: How about years? 444 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 4: But a guy, if that, if that lasted a week, 445 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 4: the panic you would have in the country, Oh what 446 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 4: do you do? 447 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: I mean, back in the thirties, you'd have a run 448 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: on the bank. Literally people would line up outside the 449 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: bank and demand their money because they were afraid their 450 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: deposits wouldn't be there because of the way banks work. 451 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: We all know that, right now, what are you gonna do. 452 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: You're gonna stand there screaming at your. 453 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 9: Laptop, thread it with a ball, bath money your bathroom, 454 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 9: start pounding on it, go to their corporate headquarters and 455 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 9: chant with a few of your friends. 456 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: How much less. 457 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 4: Prepared are we individually for a global catastrophe now than 458 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 4: when we're in nineteen twenty nine, Like if you've read 459 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 4: the Grapes of Wrath, I mean, it was obviously a 460 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 4: very very ugly situation. But I saw the numbers the 461 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 4: other day. It's something like forty percent of people made 462 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 4: their living something adjacent to farming. Now it's ero point 463 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 4: three percent or something like that. I'm not raising any 464 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 4: crops or animals currently. Yeah, And so as soon as 465 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 4: the shelves go bear the on the store, which might 466 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 4: be that afternoon in a global catastria, I can't feed myself. 467 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 468 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 2: Then that that's where you know, we've always thought this 469 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: was coming. 470 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: We both get in the gym and stuff, but I'm 471 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: not sure I'm hearty enough for the Apocalypse Cannibal in 472 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: my life. Yeah, well yeah, and I am delicious. Anyway, 473 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: that's enough of that. I told you it was too 474 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: horrifying to bring up. I wish I hadn't. So what 475 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: would happen if the Supreme Court says, yeah, yeah, you 476 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: can't just assign a ten percent extra terrifying Canada because 477 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: you're annoyed by a TV commercial. Please, what happens to 478 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: all those trade deals? Some countries would almost certainly walk 479 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: away from their agreements or renegotiate them. Some countries might think, 480 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's a decent enough deal. Seat President could 481 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: go to Congress to say, hey, we got to put 482 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: these trade deals into law. So now that I don't 483 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: have the power to just you know, declare them well. 484 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: President could also hire his lawyers to say, all right, 485 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: claim you can do tariffs on this pretext, and it's 486 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: possible the courts would let him for a while until 487 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court answers that question. Remember, the Supreme Court 488 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: doesn't rule on cases, it settles questions. 489 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 4: But there's also the issue from what I've read that like, 490 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 4: maybe you paid five thousand dollars extra for a new car, 491 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 4: then you would have if the tariffs didn't exist. 492 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: And you should get that money back? Who has it? 493 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 2: Where'd it go? How that whole thing get worked out? 494 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 4: Chinese hacked into it? He can't get it anyway? Eh, boy, 495 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 4: that'll be fun. Is there any chance of Supreme Court 496 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 4: makes some sort of sort of ruling where we're so 497 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 4: far down the road of this, it's so intermingled and complicated. 498 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: We got a nah that that's a bad way to 499 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 2: go to look at it. 500 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't stick with a bad idea that was 501 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 4: illegal just because you're too far down the road. 502 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: Right, It'd be like Joe Biden saying, Look, I've been 503 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: running the graft game so long. My entire family depends 504 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: on it. You can't bust us now in the court 505 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: saying yeah, all those grant and. 506 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 2: My son's walking around hotels naked with guns. I mean, 507 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 2: ye got right? Right? 508 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: Uh Yeah, that's that's unlikely. You know what, I'd love 509 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: to see. It probably won't happen, but like a nine 510 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: to o ruling that Look, Congress, do your jobs. We'll 511 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: give you us four months to do your damn job. 512 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: We've got a ruling here, it's all written out. It's 513 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: in this folder. But Congress do something. 514 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 4: Speaking of Congress, Marjorie Taylor Green is one of the 515 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 4: best known Congress people in America. 516 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 2: She is a Republican. She was on the View yesterday. 517 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 4: She said some really interesting things. You think Mom Dommy 518 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 4: might be remaking the Democratic Party? Is mt G gonna 519 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 4: remake what Republicans are all about? And Trump might be 520 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 4: with her. And I saw of a Vake Ramaswami today 521 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 4: talking about this populis well, hear a little of this 522 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 4: coming up next to here, Barty. 523 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 10: I yelled at Mike Johnson last week on our GOP 524 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 10: conference called by the way, I'm missing the call today 525 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 10: it's going on right now, and I hope that Mike 526 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 10: Johnson is finally giving a single health care policy because 527 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 10: the country deserves it, and it shouldn't be a secret, 528 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 10: and I shouldn't have to go into a skiff to 529 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 10: go find our Republican health insurance plan. Very you know 530 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 10: what you want to know something that I. 531 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: Believe is the truth. 532 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 10: There's a lot of ideas, there's a lot of bills, 533 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 10: but there's no consensus, and I think that's a failure. 534 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 9: I do so. 535 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 4: Marjorie Taylor Green was on the View where She was 536 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 4: received very well because she agreed with a lot of 537 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 4: their populist the what's the right term? I was gonna 538 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 4: say downtrodden, but the masses are getting screwed and need 539 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 4: help from the government. Her whole thing around this shut 540 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 4: down in Obamacare comes from her two kids. We're about 541 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 4: to get booted off the free Obamacare and have to 542 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 4: start paying a lot more. And she thought that was wrong, 543 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 4: and it sounded like because she didn't she said single 544 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 4: health care policy. Did she mean single pay health care policy? Yes, 545 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 4: that's what she meant, as in, she wants to go 546 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 4: full government healthcare. A Republican, one of the more popular, 547 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 4: one of the most maga Republican congress people in America 548 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 4: wants to go single healthcare. 549 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: So where are we? 550 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: She has wandered far off the reservation, the Maga reservation. 551 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what she is right now, Bill Crystal. 552 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 4: I don't know if you know who Bill Crystal is. 553 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 4: You don't need to know who. All these people are 554 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 4: of a perfectly happy life. But he used to run 555 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 4: the Weekly Standard. His dad was Irving Crystal, one of 556 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 4: the most important conservative thinkers in America in the entire 557 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 4: twentieth century. Bill Crystal said over the weekend he would 558 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 4: vote for Mom Donnie the socialist, So one of the 559 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 4: most important conservative voices who since has gone to Uh, 560 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 4: he's a Bulwark guy, right, And I think he's a 561 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 4: Bullwark guy or is he a Lincoln. He's one of 562 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 4: those groups that hates Trump, loathsome either way. And so 563 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 4: a guy that I watched my whole life on the 564 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 4: Sunday talk shows standing up for conservatism against the mainstream 565 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 4: media and all the nut job liberals now says he 566 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 4: would vote for the communist mayor. 567 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 2: Of New York. Why he lost his mind. 568 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 4: I didn't hear or read the why, but a lot 569 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 4: of people were interested in the statement he made. But 570 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 4: he's so anti Trump, I mean, he's blinded by his 571 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 4: hatred of Trump to all kinds of things, in my opinion, 572 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 4: But that combined with Marjorie Taylor Green want to go 573 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 4: single payer healthcare system. I don't know where we are. 574 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 4: I don't know where things are. I don't know if 575 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 4: the whole left right thing is going to break down completely, 576 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 4: and then maybe it should and we come up with 577 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 4: a different kind of an alignment. 578 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 2: I don't know what it would be. 579 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I think it would end up being like 580 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: really left and slightly less left, like England, which is terrible, 581 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: or France or Canada. Yeah, I find myself wanting to 582 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: do like an extended segment with Craig the Healthcare Guru, 583 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: just because you know, I read so much about our 584 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: healthcare system and how crony capitalism has ruined it. The 585 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 1: idea that we are in the mess we're in because 586 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: of the free market is the opposite of the truth. 587 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: And Obamacare was an unbelievably insidious fix of giving enormous 588 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: gifts to various insurance companies and other entities as opposed 589 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: to letting the free market work and let consumers choose 590 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: their health care and insurance companies are healthcare providers compete 591 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: And it's I get discouraged when we're even talking about it, 592 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: because there is so much there that a demagogue, whether 593 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: it's a a deliberate excuse me, radical like Mumdani or or. 594 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: Probably well meaning. 595 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: Not genius like MTG, they spout these solutions and people think, yeah, yeah, 596 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: that because trying to actually understand what's going on and 597 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: then overcome the power. 598 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 2: Of the lobbyists. 599 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: It is just I don't know, that's like climbing three 600 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: mount everests stacked on top of each other. 601 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's just discouraging. 602 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: It's so screwed up and so important healthcare, I. 603 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 4: Mean, yeah, well just in general, who's out there making 604 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 4: the good argument for fiscal conservatism, traditional republican sort of. 605 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,719 Speaker 2: Politics? I mean, is that just completely dead? All of that. 606 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: Let's tear apart the crony capitalism and give people the 607 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: actual right to choose no, because there are lobbyists lined 608 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: up a thousand deep ready to write gigantic checks to 609 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: lawmakers to make sure the scam continues. And I'm sorry, 610 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: it's so it's so discouraging. I don't mean to be 611 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: that way. I really don't. 612 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 2: It's just a. 613 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: Realist and everything sucks and always will and compulsively honest, 614 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: and I really need to beat that impulse back to 615 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: provide a more entertaining listening product. 616 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 2: I apologize. I'll do better, strong. 617 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 6: Strong. 618 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 4: In other words, there's a realignment going on that who 619 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 4: knows where it's going to land. 620 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. Let's see if. 621 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 4: Our host for final thoughts cannot depress this. 622 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 2: Here he is Joe getting this. 623 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 1: Is why you want limited government, because once unlimited government 624 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: takes hold the power and complexity of it is impossible 625 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 1: to undue. 626 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 2: Well, sorry, I did it again. I did it again. 627 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 9: Sorry. 628 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 2: Let's get a final thought from Mike Langelow. 629 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: Michael, you know, if China takes over our finances, I'm 630 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: going to go through my closet today and look for 631 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: things that I could sell. 632 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 2: We may have to go back to the barn system 633 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 2: or eat. Yeah. How much do you think I can 634 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 2: get for dolphin. 635 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: Shorts three r abdominal cavity and see what you can sell. 636 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 2: You're gonna be selling your spleen. 637 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: Huh, Katie Green, are esteem Newswoman? 638 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 2: As a final thought, Katie, after. 639 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 6: All of that uplifting stuff, I'll never be able to 640 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 6: look at a today the same way. After the conversation today, 641 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 6: I'm still. 642 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 2: Laughing about it. I got to figure out how to 643 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 2: use that thing. 644 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: It's really not that hard. The risks are low. Jack, 645 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: Do you have a final thought for us? 646 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 647 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 4: I brought in all the Halloween candy from my house. 648 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 4: We had way too much of it. I've eaten more 649 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 4: candy in the last four days than I had in 650 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 4: the previous year. 651 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 2: Since last Halloween, probably I. 652 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 4: Mean, I just can't walk by a bag of Hershey 653 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 4: Kisses and not pop one in my mouth. I'm not 654 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 4: capable of doing it. I brought in all the Halloween candy. 655 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 4: Enjoy everybody. 656 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: I'll let the preceding depressing crap be my final thought. 657 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 2: Again, I apologize. 658 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 4: Armstrong and Getdy rabbing up an other grueling four hour workday. 659 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: So many people, Thanks, so a little time. Go to 660 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Geddy dot com. Check out the hot links, 661 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff to read. Drop us note 662 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: something we ought to be talking about. Send it along 663 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 1: bail bag at Armstrong Geddy dot com. 664 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 4: Okay, we'll see how this argument goes on. The whole 665 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 4: tariff thing. 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