WEBVTT - The Spirited Actor - Eve Cooper (09/28/2021) 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.360 Hello, and welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.480 Tracy Moore. I was a casting director for film and 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:10.640 TV and commercials for over thirty years. I transitioned to 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:14.160 a celebrity acting coach after I cast a film New 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:19.320 Jersey Drive with executive producers Spike Lee and director Nick Themez. 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:24.000 I auditioned every rapper from Biggie Smalls to Tupac, and 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:27.760 I realized that rappers and musical artists they needed help 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:32.159 transitioning to acting. My clients consist of musical artists from 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:36.839 Buster Rhymes to Eve, Missy Elliott, Angela Yee from The 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:40.400 Breakfast Club, and Vanessa Simmons, to name a few. I 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:44.360 also coach sports stars and host as well. I feel 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:48.000 I have the best of both worlds. As a casting director, 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:50.519 I know exactly what they're looking for, and as an 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:53.040 acting coach, I can coach you to be remembered in 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:56.200 that room. Now. I know. I know actors want to 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:59.200 get the job. I get that, but being remembered by 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:04.800 a casting director that is powerful. Meditation of the day, 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:10.160 that's it, baby, when you got it, flaunted Mail Brooks, 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:15.680 Nobody is perfect. My favorite commercial is where Michael Jordans 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.959 slowly gets out of the car and describes his failures 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:21.920 and how they helped him achieve success. This is a 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:25.080 great example of how failure is a part of success. 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:28.680 The important thing that you should remember is that faults 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:31.400 are okay. It doesn't mean we're bad people. It just 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:35.280 means we're working on getting better. As I learned to 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:39.200 recognize my faults, I learned to embrace them and know 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:44.280 that there is room for improvement. Before we get started, 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.320 I'd like to remind everyone to look out for my 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:51.200 new show, Inside the Black Box. I'll be co hosting 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:54.680 with the great Joe Morton. We'll be on Crackle Network 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:59.440 real soon. I'll keep you posted. Welcome to the Spirit 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:03.080 Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore. You are in for 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:07.120 beyond a treat. It's not even a treat. I last 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:10.760 night I thought about this introduction, and first I got 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:13.240 a little emotional, and then I said, I. 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.240 Was just about to say to you, and I'm not 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:16.360 supposed to interrupt. 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:22.480 I was like, why am I getting emotional? My side 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:27.320 hurt because sorry, sorry, Okay, there she is ladies and jealous. 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.600 I just want to say. What I did come up 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:35.400 with was she is one of my favorite human beings 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:40.080 on this planet, and two has spent the time with 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:45.239 her on the road on different projects and then full 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:49.080 circle come back around is beyond a blessing. So I 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.160 just want to say, ladies, and Jaila was stand up 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:57.760 and put your hands together for the legendary. I mean, 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:00.399 I am a professional. Did not mean to to rut 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:02.280 where I do know who we are. 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:05.760 Doing a podcast, but I am so excited. 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:07.640 To be here because we've been talking about trying to 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:09.000 do this for a while. So I'm so. 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.640 Yeah, I'm here, and I'm like, why do I have 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:13.840 actual like little tears in the corner. 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.040 My glasses started to plug up and I started because 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:19.919 I was like, I got it out this morning. But 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.840 I was like, I'm going to introduce you, just introduce her. 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:27.400 But you know what eve one day I was, I 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:30.240 was with one of my assistants, old assistants, and I 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:33.079 was just talking about like I have the best moments 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:41.400 with you, the best we have had. Listen, listen many 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:46.920 many many stories many I had to. I remember there 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.560 was a time when you know, I had a different name, 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:55.200 and I remember I would leave like every time I 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.000 got the call to you know, we're going to barbershop, 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:01.280 We're going to Woodsman, right, and I would the setup 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:05.160 would be Eve has another project, I'm going to have 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:07.360 to keep it on for it, right, And then I 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:08.880 get in the car and I'd be like. 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:15.440 Because we had honestly, we had such a good time. 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:19.960 You honestly are the person that made me love acting seriously, 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:21.880 and that is really. 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:24.240 Real because before you. 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:27.640 I definitely was like, no, I don't want to act, 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:29.960 and I don't I don't understand what this is. 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:32.440 And my first is my very first session with you, 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:37.440 I was like, oh, okay, like and. 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:40.600 You opened something up that was just like all right, 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:42.840 and I think you said to me. I don't know 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.120 if you remember this, but I think you did say 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:48.760 to me, and it might not be verbatim, but because 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:50.599 I think I was talking about how at the time, 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:54.800 Troy obviously really wanted me to get into acting and 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:56.000 I was just and you were. 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:57.280 Like uh, And I was like, well, I'm not really 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:57.640 into it. 0:04:57.640 --> 0:04:59.120 I don't know anything about it, and you were like, well, 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:01.480 you know, when you do videos, that's kind of like 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:02.839 you're telling a story. 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:07.520 And I was like, duh, I remember what I said 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:12.159 that to you? Because I was working with so many men. 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.560 At the time, I was really on us with Buster 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.040 and then like a bunch of rapper. 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:23.280 Mail and yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, and I 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:25.320 love blind. 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:29.960 Oh yeah, yep, And that just tugged at my heart 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.040 strings and I was like, she needs to act and 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:35.080 I swear on everything because Ayana, my assistant, was with me. 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:38.240 Three days later, Tory Carter calls me and he's like, 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.039 I want to introduce you, Eve, and I'm like, what 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:46.839 love is blindy? Because your performance in there, then that's 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:49.320 that video was drivening to me. And if you can 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:52.479 channel those type of emotions in a video, which I 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:56.320 think is like a small short film, yeah, let's get 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.280 a script. And I have to say this, ladies and gentlemen. 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:06.039 Worked on her craft first, yes, or she auditioned for anything? Yes, yes, yes, 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:08.840 you make that decision. 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:12.760 Yeah, because I feel like I do respect the craft 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:15.960 of acting and I do know that there are you know, actors, 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:19.279 people who have wanted to act since they were babies 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.239 and have gone through all the training and going. 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:24.159 To the schools and take classes all the time. 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.840 And I never wanted to be I never wanted to 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:29.599 just show up and be like oh yeah, you know, 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:33.520 especially at that time, my time in my career, I 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:35.240 was getting a lot of things sent to me. But 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.039 I never wanted to be that person that showed up 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.280 on set like just because I could, just because they 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.080 offered me the job doesn't mean I actually do the job. 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:45.000 So I wanted to really, you know, really study. And 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.440 until this day, I still get super nervous. I'm still 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:52.000 nervous on sets. I get so nervous because I never 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:53.880 want to be the person I don't want to be 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:54.400 the fuck up? 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:59.200 Can I say? Can you curse? You can? Oh? Thank you? 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:03.000 Thank you? Well, that's because for me, you took the 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:06.039 craft so seriously and you did the work, and you 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.599 really worked on your craft, and you wanted to have 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:12.080 that comfort. You also had. The other side to you 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:14.800 was the business woman that I saw evolving, and I 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:18.120 was like, she's going to produce, She's gonna produce. Yes, 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.200 you always said that to me, and I you know, 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:21.240 the way I look at. 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:25.240 Stuff now, I'm I'm still I want to I hope 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.480 and hope. I'm sure it'll happen at some point when 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:29.920 it's right. It is to find it a right project, 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:31.120 Yeah it. 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.640 Is, and it's going to be you know, it's gonna 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:39.120 be your like respect, you know, I feel like it's 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.680 portraying someone. That's what I feel, you know, that's what 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:46.040 I feel like I do because one of one of 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:49.680 my moments was in barbershop when you had to go 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:53.640 up for the well, let me tell, let me see 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:56.240 if you remember this, because this was crazy. You had 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:59.680 a callback in LA, but I wasn't with you. I 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:04.559 was on Fifth Avenue in thirty fourth Street, rush hour 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:09.720 on a payphone talking to you, yes, coaching you on 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:12.080 the phone, and I was just like, oh, dear God God. 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.600 And then you got a call back, another callback, and 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:18.160 we were both in LA. But when we walked in 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:22.440 that room, Eve, everybody in your age range who had 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:27.080 been on TV or starting in films was in that room. Yeah, 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:31.960 it was right, Yes, that is hardcore. That is hardcore. 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:35.719 I still that process of going Yeah, I remember that. 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:39.520 It was literally like everyone and literally they. 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:43.000 Had gone out to all the people, all the girls, right, 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:44.480 like all of them. 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.920 It's so true. But the thing that's great, and like 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.880 you guys don't know this from the casting perspective, but 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:54.400 everybody in that room you have that idea of this 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.440 is who I'm competing against or they were on this 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:59.920 series or whatever, and then you realize you know that 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:03.720 room as a casting director. Not everybody comes in shining. 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:08.440 Not everybody is great. And I felt like you wanted 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.600 this role. I felt I wanted it at own Terry, 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:15.360 what was when? And this is another like it was 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:18.320 a boys club in a sense, but what was the experience? 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:23.920 Because I do Barbarshaw, Oh my god, you know what? 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:26.760 Yes, one, I have to say, I fell in love 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:28.240 with Terry. It was the first time I think I 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:30.880 read a script really, even though I had done my 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:34.920 TV show before, but this was different, Like it was 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:39.560 the first time I read a script and I was like, 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.840 I know this girl, like I know her, I know 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:45.840 this girl, I can do this. I know I could 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:49.240 do it. And thankfully, yes, I did get the role. 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:53.240 And I was saying I was definitely intimidating. I think 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:58.280 I was right most intimidated by Bye c Man c. 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:00.439 Yo. 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:06.600 His so intimidating, but once you get to know him 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.400 one he is literally the nicest. 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:11.800 He gave me so much cool advice, like but I 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:13.520 think also be coming from rough. 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:17.280 Riders definitely prepared me to be around all them dudes. 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.200 That was like Okay, yeah, I know what this is like. 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:24.000 But as far as the acting part of it was, 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:27.000 it was scary, but I had you, so it was great, 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:32.040 like seriously because you was to be behind that confidence 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.719 like you you always help me find that confidence and 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:39.040 knowing like no, you got this, like you really, like 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:40.480 for real, like you got this. 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:44.079 So that always always helped me well because I think 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:46.440 that I always have this idea in my head that 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.719 when you excel in one entity, all you need is 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:53.400 like the foundation and like you know, the protocol and verbage, 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:55.959 and then you're gonna because you have the talent, you're 0:10:56.000 --> 0:11:00.840 going to sore. And for me, I love Barbishop one, 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:04.080 Barbishop two was great coming back to like this reunion 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:08.120 huge cast. Yeah, but when you did Woodspan, oh my god, 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:12.319 I was so scared. I was so scared. 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:14.480 That was another one that was like how am I 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:16.920 sitting across the table from Kevin Bacon. 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:19.360 Like how how is this my life right now? 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.160 And I remember to this day and I've said this 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:24.160 to him before I had the chance to say this 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:30.760 to him. Every time they called action, his his pupils dilated. 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:36.440 Like me, it was like he went straight in and 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:38.760 so we could be literally busting it up in between 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:42.400 takes and as soon as the action was called, he 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:44.680 was there and it was like, wow, that's amazing. 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:48.240 That was something I was just learning and he was amazing. 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:49.680 And he's from Philly, so it was cool. 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:50.960 And we got to do it in Philly and it 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.600 was like, yeah, that was that was incredible, But it 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:56.920 was that was a scary, scary scar It was I mean, 0:11:56.920 --> 0:12:02.120 I'm always scared. I always scared, but that fear pushes 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:04.400 you into it and you do it anyway and then 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:08.560 it just what What was was great for me on 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:12.280 Woodsman is that we were experimenting with wigs. 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.920 Because we were talking about, remember, you should have a 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.960 different look so that people don't even recognize you. And 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:21.920 it's not until the credits come up. And when I 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:25.400 saw Woodsman, I was around a group of people that 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:28.400 I didn't know, but I could hear them like is 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:33.840 that Eve? Is that? Oh? Yes? I ran before jet. 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:36.880 That was a transformation. I was still that wig always 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:38.640 run reminded me of my aunt Karen. 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.960 I don't know if I said that then, but it's like, 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:45.280 this is not that Karen right now, Like yes, but 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.439 that was her for sure. Yeah, And It's little things 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.280 like that, a costume, a prop or something that just 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:54.720 makes an adjustment like that in the scene. I want 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:57.319 to get to two more things because I definitely want 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.600 to talk about Queens. I can't. I can't stopped turning 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:06.360 up the TV with Queens host. However, your television show, 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:12.000 Eve Man, I worked on the pilot, and I have 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:20.640 to say the most challenging thing besides childbirths was having 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.360 to tell Eve that I was not going to be 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:27.360 a part of the show. Yeah. And I just remember 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:30.600 when when we were like and I was like, who 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:36.520 you like, Tasey, what's wrong? Oh? Lord lord? And I 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:43.160 was like, nothing, woo, you got a series. And I 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:45.880 literally had a cramp in my neck, went to the 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:49.280 doctor and they said stress kills. Whatever you're stressing about, 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:50.840 you need to talk about it. And that's when I 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:54.679 had to talk to you and Troy. But had an 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:59.000 amazing time working with you and Stanley and the whole cast. 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:04.160 It was impressible, was the series. Man. So from film 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:08.439 Now jumping into this tight schedule Monday through Friday rehearsal, 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:12.880 blocking live audience, Yeah, what was actuallyransitioning like for you? Hard? 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:16.200 I'm not gonna lie. It was I ain't even gonna lie. 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.240 I can't eat a sugarcoat it, you know what? 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:23.760 Because I had been on the road for so long, right, 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:26.760 and when I had gotten the show, I was so excited. 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:28.160 Of course I was really excited. 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.760 That was another thing which I'm happy Troy talked me into, 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:34.360 not really talked me into. I was ready for it, 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:39.200 but you were the transition of going from being on 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.360 the road kind of doing my thing whatever it is 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.520 I wanted to that it became to me and. 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.120 Ant it was monotonous. 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.440 It was getting up at the same time, getting in 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.760 the car, driving the same way, parking in the same spot. 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:54.920 I was also the youngest at the time. 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:58.800 Everybody was either just getting married, just having their first kid, 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:02.120 buying their first house. Like it's settling in a way 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.960 that I just wasn't there yet. I still was like 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:08.240 that first season, I was still trying to go to 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:09.920 the club and then make it for table reads, like 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:12.800 getting it at floor, trying to get the table reads 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:16.320 at nine on Fridays, like I do not recommend this 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:20.160 because it does not work me either, Yeah, I do not. 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:21.160 It does not work. 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:23.880 But trying to figure out how do I keep some 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:27.280 semblance of what I knew and what I was going into. 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:30.640 It wasn't probably until the second or THURSD season, once 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:34.080 we had really become a family, really because we did, 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:37.560 and once we had like found that group, and I 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.600 even found that that sweet spot of like, oh man, 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:41.640 this is actually really nice. 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:42.280 It's an anchor. 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:44.400 I don't have to pack a bag and be on 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.760 a bus or on a plane. And that's when I 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:49.920 think it was too late. And it's one of the 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:53.960 things I've said before. I do I don't believe in regrets. 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:57.160 But if I could have a do over to a 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.800 certain extent, I would have taken. 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:01.320 It a little more seriously. 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:05.000 I would have understood the seriousness quicker, if that means right. 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:07.680 But I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you what 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:12.240 you did understand, Son, you understood co executive producer credit 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:15.080 Son Song. I did understand that. I did understand that. 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:22.000 I was just like, yeah, I did understand that, Yes, 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.200 that was nice, that was nice. 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:24.640 Yes. 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:29.600 And I learned a lot. I learned a lot. I 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:34.560 learned about myself, about being being an actor, like being 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:38.080 in an ensemble. I learned a lot. And I learned 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:39.360 I learned that. 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:42.800 I mean, comedy is hard, man, it's not easy, challenging, 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:44.200 it's not it's not easy. 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:49.240 Yeah. Well, I remember your agent during the pilots said 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:52.200 that if you want a nine to five, do you 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:55.480 do television. If you want you know that freedom, you 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:58.640 do film. And so I felt like, Okay, now you're 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:01.960 finally going to be settled in your place and this. 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:07.800 But that's the thing that was challenging for me because 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.040 I felt like at the time, I was on the 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:13.240 road with um Buster at the same time, and so 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:18.680 I felt like, you know what, I encourage you guys 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.760 to follow your dreams. And I wanted to direct, and 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.480 I had some opportunity to do this play and I 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.439 was like, I just you know, but it killed me. 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:30.879 Killed it killed it. I know, I know. When I 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:33.080 got the phone call, they were like, Tassy, would you 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.359 like to recommend another acting coach who for you? 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:36.080 I was like, a. 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:43.280 People, I don't want the show to be mad, but 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:45.840 I was so proud of you. You would watch that 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:49.800 show and be like yo, like you could you could. 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:54.240 For me, I saw when you found your sweet spot. 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:56.760 I saw when you finally happened. 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:02.479 At some point, it finally happened because it was. You 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:04.480 know what's funny too about you know, you know how 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:08.040 it is there's so many people on the set. 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:10.639 That writers as well as you're doing. 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:13.159 It, and if something doesn't land and they go in 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:16.280 and rewrite, that kind of stuff is so intimidating but 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:20.679 also amazing, also amazing once you learn that, like, okay, 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:21.960 you know what, I can't even think about it. 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:23.400 I just got to shift and do it. It was, 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.280 it was, it was. It was a cool It was 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:30.960 a cool experience, definitely. I just remember because Bumper was 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:36.520 the first boyfriend and then and then I'm so sorry, 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:40.000 and then Jason came in. But the thing is that 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:46.560 what was so amazing was the fact that, like there 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:49.440 was this connection with the two of you guys in 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:52.480 the beginning, and then you never lost that connection when 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.639 Jason George came on, which was so great, Like you 0:18:55.880 --> 0:19:01.160 stay within that energy. Yes, and and and it's grueling. 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:03.960 The schedule is grueling because like you said, I mean, 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:06.880 you have a dual career. You're a kee and when 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:09.159 you got off the set you were eve. Yeah, so 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:12.399 people wanted to see you at the Mandren or you know, 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:18.640 out So I understand that I when I found out 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.160 that you were doing the talk I thought that that 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:25.040 was such a great transition, Like I don't think initially 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:27.280 people understood like, well, you're an actress, why are you 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:31.680 doing a talk show? I thought it was a brilliant decision. 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:32.200 Thank you. 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:33.479 It was, you know what it was. 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:35.160 It was one of those things that kind of happened 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:38.240 out of nowhere as well, because right before I got 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.560 the call for it, I had said to my agents, like, 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:43.600 I just I want to do something that's a different 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:46.160 platform that that shows me. 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:48.800 As an adult, like as a woman. Now that's not 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:51.679 just my music or acting or you know. 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:54.920 And in this I mean, it was months before this 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:58.480 came up, and I was living in London full time, 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:02.639 really really living, which I am now still. I go 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:04.760 back and forth. But when they called me, they were like, 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:06.919 you're probably not going to do it because it's in 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:10.879 LA and you'd have to be either moved back to 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:12.200 LA or go back and forth. 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:14.080 And I was like, you know what, let me just 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:16.040 try it. If I hate it or if they hate me. 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:18.760 That's fine, because you know, they kind of just tested us. 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:20.040 Out for like a week or whatever. 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:21.920 So I was like, listen, if I suck, I sucked 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:24.399 and I never have to come back. But then I 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:27.000 got home and I had a feeling. I was like, 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:30.120 I said to my husband, like, Babe, what if this 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:32.320 actually happens? And he was like, well, let's talk about 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:35.640 it when it happens. And the next day, the next day, 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:38.080 we got the call like, so, would. 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:39.560 You be willing to come? And I was like, you 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:41.560 know what, Yeah, let's try it. And I mean, I 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:42.040 flew back. 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:43.919 For three years, I was flying back and forth to 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:48.520 London to la which was us. But I'm so happy 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:50.760 that I had a chance to do it because that's 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:54.720 another I grew again as a person, as a woman. 0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:59.760 You know, those ladies regardless of and it sucks to 0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:04.400 see what's happening with everything right now, but those ladies 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:09.080 really were for real, genuine when they put their hearts 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:10.879 on the table, when they talked about the things that 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:12.040 were going on in their lives. 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:14.000 I had to show up, and there. 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:16.480 Was a lot of things that I said that came 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:19.240 out of me that I'd never talked about before. But 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:22.680 I feel like I've healed some stuff because of being 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:25.000 on that show, which is weird because it's a freaking 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:29.359 talk show. But but yeah, I'm happy I had the experience. 0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:32.720 I'm very thankful for that experience. Yeah, I am too. 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:36.000 Like you said, you know, it's great when you do well. 0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:39.440 It's like, you know, when you did Barbershop, you you know, 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:45.320 there's a certain uh you know, I don't want to 0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:50.439 say like certain certain casting directors want to keep you 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:54.800 in a certain mold. Yes, But when you did Woodsman, 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:58.000 I thought that was the beginning of broadening you because 0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:01.800