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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are

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Speaker 1: you a Charlotte?

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Speaker 2: Hi?

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Speaker 1: Everybody, welcome back to Are You a Charlotte? We are

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Speaker 1: here today with Caromo Brown. It's so exciting. You might

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Speaker 1: know him from Queeri for the Straight Guy, but also

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Speaker 1: he has his own talk show. Now, let's hear all

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Speaker 1: about it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've always wanted to talk to us since I

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Speaker 3: was like nine years old.

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Speaker 4: This is my childhood dream. Yeah, I used to.

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Speaker 3: My mother found my middle school yearbook the other day

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Speaker 3: and I should bring it in and I wrote in

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Speaker 3: there hopefully you'll be a guest on my stage one day.

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Speaker 3: And so I've been manifesting this forever. And it's only

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Speaker 3: because I'm nosy as hell. I'm so nosy.

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Speaker 4: I want to know everyone's business.

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Speaker 3: Like, if you have any gossip, please call my phone.

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Speaker 3: I am no one to tell.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, I can keep a secret. I can okay.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's good. That's good.

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Speaker 4: I'm a vault okay good.

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Speaker 3: And so so I just want to I want to

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Speaker 3: date time talk show where I could also be nosy

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Speaker 3: but also help people because as a little kid, you know,

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Speaker 3: I felt super alone. I felt super like no one

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Speaker 3: understood me. I feel like I didn't understand where to

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Speaker 3: get help from. You know, just like nowadays people have

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Speaker 3: Instagram making to swipe their stories that people are get

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Speaker 3: a million people getting advice.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I'm in my forties forties.

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Speaker 3: And there was nobody giving me advice on Instagram.

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Speaker 4: Ordn't know where to go, definitely, And.

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Speaker 3: So my goal is to do that and to have

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Speaker 3: it now a show where it's fun, it's entertaining, we're

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Speaker 3: a little messy, but also people get real advice on

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Speaker 3: how to be better.

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Speaker 4: It makes you.

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Speaker 3: We're in season four at a time where like we're

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Speaker 3: a time where show get canceled quickly daytime.

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Speaker 2: No joke.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's so nice and so nice because sometimes as

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Speaker 1: great as in Instagram is in terms of being able

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Speaker 1: to connect people, at the same time, I feel like

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit dangerous in terms of advice because

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Speaker 1: you don't necessarily know where that advice is coming from or.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like it worries me a little.

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Speaker 1: My kids are not on social media so far, and

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Speaker 1: I'm glad about that, but I do feel like you

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Speaker 1: can kind of find your people that way. In some

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Speaker 1: ways right, But at the same time, sometimes the advice

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know if we should listen to that.

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Speaker 4: Of course.

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Speaker 3: Well, one of the big things for me is like

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Speaker 3: my talk short even like when I'm giving advice on

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Speaker 3: social media, I don't give generic advice. If I'm going

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Speaker 3: to give you advice, I'm going to give you a

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Speaker 3: step that needs to come with it. I think that's

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Speaker 3: always the thing that misses, like here's the actual step.

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Speaker 3: Like I hate when people say get better self esteem.

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Speaker 4: I might do that. I already had it. It's like

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Speaker 4: I already had it. I would have already had it.

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Speaker 3: I would have already if you like get out that relationship,

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Speaker 3: that's bad.

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Speaker 4: If I could have, I would already been out of it.

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Speaker 3: This was a good point, clearly, you know it's I

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Speaker 3: love the push, but the push has to come with

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Speaker 3: clear instructions. And so that's one thing that about Instagram

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Speaker 3: for me, like instructs people if you want to.

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Speaker 4: Do this, but also like tell them what you've been through,

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Speaker 4: where you're at. And definitely I think that's part of

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Speaker 4: what I love about you. You're very transparent. If I

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Speaker 4: can be honest, Thanks, you.

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Speaker 3: Do share, You do share and you get you. Thank you,

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Speaker 3: and that's something you're welcome.

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Speaker 4: And I do it as well, and I appreciate that,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Yeah, you do.

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Speaker 3: Like no one's asking you to give your full life,

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Speaker 3: but like we know, people in this business stage sometimes don't.

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Speaker 3: Just you have to get piece of yourself and it's

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Speaker 3: when people connect and that's why we connect with you.

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Speaker 4: That's true.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I mean, it's been a journey.

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Speaker 1: It's been a journey, like we we Adam and I

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Speaker 1: were talking earlier about like you know, because I've been

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Speaker 1: doing this for a long time, right, and the industry

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Speaker 1: has changed obviously so much and is in the you

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Speaker 1: know turmoil currently right changing again. And when we first started,

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Speaker 1: that we were going to need to share so much

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Speaker 1: of ourselves, do you know what I'm saying, Like we

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Speaker 1: were afraid of it in a lot of ways, you know,

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Speaker 3: Protect Yeah, back then, the industry was your condition. You

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Speaker 3: have to be this and you don't share your personal

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Speaker 3: life unless you want to be in the tabloid if

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Speaker 3: you want to be scandalous.

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Speaker 1: Right to share, right, right, But now I think it's

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Speaker 1: nice in some ways that the walls have come down,

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Speaker 1: but I also feel like then, like for my kids,

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Speaker 1: I'm always a little worried about protecting them because they

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Speaker 1: didn't choose my job, you know, before they were born obviously,

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Speaker 1: so I don't necessarily want them to, you know, be

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, like, how do you deal

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Speaker 2: with that?

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Speaker 4: With you?

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Speaker 2: With your kids?

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Speaker 3: You know, it's the thoughtfulness, And I think that's the

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Speaker 3: key thing for parents. I think the more thoughtful you

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Speaker 3: can be in putting kids your yourself and kids choose

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Speaker 3: is the greatest gift that you can ever give. And

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Speaker 3: and anytime I make a decision, all always put myself

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Speaker 3: in the issues. And sometimes as parents we think we

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Speaker 3: know best and we forget, Like it's hard when you're

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Speaker 3: younger and people have an opinion of you, but also

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Speaker 3: when they have opinion of your family, right, and you know,

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Speaker 3: and this is not just because we're in the industry.

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Speaker 3: This goes for anybody, Like when you find out someone's

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Speaker 3: your neighbor's dad has done this.

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Speaker 4: As much as you think it's just the adults, the kids.

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Speaker 3: Come around and they pick on them, and I think

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Speaker 3: that thoughtfulness is something that I wish more parents, you know, had,

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Speaker 3: because especially on my daytime talk show, you wouldn't believe

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Speaker 3: how many parents I come across that very still to

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Speaker 3: this day, that old school feeling of like I'm the

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Speaker 3: you know whatever I believe is what you believe?

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: If you don't like it, get out of my house

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Speaker 3: if you don't want it. And these are things that

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Speaker 3: we hear. This is you know, like we've heard this.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you've heard one of your friends say one

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Speaker 3: of those things or a variation of those things, like

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Speaker 3: good job, thank God for your.

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Speaker 1: Now my friends, we're all in the other group of

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Speaker 1: like we're trying to do it differently, and then maybe

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: I got it? Got it? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, we're you giving too much freedom or something. Well, listen,

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Speaker 3: I still believe. I still believe that the first step

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Speaker 4: And so I applause you for doing that. You know,

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Speaker 4: if you're going on the other end, we can talk

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Speaker 1: I don't want to talk too much about that because

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Speaker 2: But you know what I want to ask you about.

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Speaker 1: And then because I saw one on the bio about

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Speaker 1: your show, like and because of your own life and

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Speaker 1: your own you know, kind of really interesting way that

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Speaker 1: your life unfolded in terms of your children and your

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Speaker 1: own sexuality.

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Speaker 2: And your career.

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Speaker 1: Right, it's all very interesting and unusual, you know when

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Speaker 2: At Sex and the City.

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Speaker 1: Because when I saw the actual episode that we have

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Speaker 2: But like it's a kind of very.

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Speaker 1: Gender normative type of an episode for us, you know

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Sex and the City for me because I'm

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Speaker 3: a gay man, obviously my bread.

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Speaker 3: I think most straight men, being a straight man is

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Speaker 3: I look at my straight buddies and the way that

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Speaker 3: sometimes because I get my straight male friends and sorry

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Speaker 3: after like a couple of times, their guard will get

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Speaker 3: that wasn't stifled by.

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Speaker 3: You see them see something that's exciting and they get

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Speaker 3: And then they realize like, oh no, I'm in a

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Speaker 1: How like when did you find the show.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I was very early on. Like I said, I'm

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Speaker 3: I'm clamoring fantastic, a powerful strong woman for them, an

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Speaker 2: Excellent, excellent. That's why do we exist? Yes? What you

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Speaker 4: Even to this day, I still watch all the episodes.

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Speaker 3: But when they were when they asked me to rewatch

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Speaker 3: That's just when she said the title, I already knew.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm like, I'm like, I'm a gay man. Test me.

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Speaker 1: This is the joy of doing this podcast, because I

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Speaker 3: I think that your show's one the show that has

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Speaker 3: have to stand up for It's true.

445
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Speaker 2: It's true.

446
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,280
Speaker 1: Interesting because it was It's definitely a through line of

447
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,720
Speaker 1: the show, and it's interesting to see the different.

448
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 2: Ways that it shows up. Right.

449
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,280
Speaker 1: So, like Miranda, she's having this kind of very basic

450
00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,399
Speaker 1: situation where this woman has come into her house, she

451
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,159
Speaker 1: feels judged. And then for Charlotte because they're going to

452
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,679
Speaker 1: the which I do remember. This was directed by Pam Thomas,

453
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,640
Speaker 1: who is a great director. Shoot. It's written by Cindy Shupac,

454
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,720
Speaker 1: who has relatively newly joined the show. We first had

455
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,199
Speaker 1: Darren Starr, then we had Michael Patrick King, then we

456
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,639
Speaker 1: got Jenny Bakes and Cindy is our fourth writer that

457
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:18,680
Speaker 1: we've hired full time.

458
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 2: So now we've got two.

459
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 1: Women, two men, and it's you know, we're firing on

460
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 1: all cylinders in this season three. This is when things

461
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 1: are really like clicking together, right, and you're really seeing

462
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 1: kind of the overall themes really really like cement themselves.

463
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Speaker 2: In a way. Yes, and so Charlotte and.

464
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Speaker 1: I remember this because I remember having a lot of anxiety.

465
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Speaker 1: That's what I remember about this episode is like I

466
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 1: didn't want to be wrapped up in a towel. I

467
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,120
Speaker 1: feel really bad about my thighs. I still feel really

468
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,879
Speaker 1: bad about my thighs. I am old now, and I

469
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 1: still feel really bad about my thighs.

470
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Speaker 2: Like it is so.

471
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Speaker 1: Ground into you as a young woman, you know, looking

472
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Speaker 1: at Vogue, looking at the six feet tall model, you

473
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 1: know it's twiggy figures. Still today you look at these

474
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 1: models like Paris Fashion, we just happened. They're tiny, tiny

475
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 1: things have not changed.

476
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they're.

477
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 2: Supposed to have changed, but have they changed?

478
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Speaker 4: They have any? Actually, I think we're regressing a lot

479
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 4: of ways. I mean, I don't know if you saw recently,

480
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 4: there was there's this pushback.

481
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Speaker 3: On body positivity, and so it's it's gone, like it's

482
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 3: like there's no more, there's no more.

483
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Speaker 4: Of accepting all body types.

484
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Speaker 3: And it's just crazy that something that was just meant

485
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 3: to say, hey, we just love yourself, I love yourself

486
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,199
Speaker 3: the way you are, has been returned to this idea

487
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Speaker 3: that no, it's wrong, it's wrong.

488
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Speaker 2: We cannot let that stay. We can. I mean, I

489
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Speaker 2: have a fourteen year old daughter.

490
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Speaker 1: And you know, I have to really really retrain myself

491
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Speaker 1: in terms of you know how I talk about food

492
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Speaker 1: and you know, because obviously I am still an actress, right,

493
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 1: but I talk about like healthy, you know. I try

494
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Speaker 1: to always focus on healthy, healthy, healthy, And like when

495
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,239
Speaker 1: we did decide to go back to work and do

496
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: and just like that, I hired a trainer and it

497
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 1: was COVID still, so we were working out in the yard,

498
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

499
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Speaker 2: Like I but in my youth, I would have been like,

500
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Speaker 2: I'm not thin enough to go back to work.

501
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

502
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now I just don't say that, you.

503
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: Know, I've retrained my language or whatever, because I don't

504
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: want her like there's enough in the culture, you know,

505
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: everywhere you look right like, I want her to feel

506
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 1: powerful and strong and proud of her body. It's beautiful, beautiful,

507
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: but it's it's such an interesting thing that we have

508
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 1: to fight so hard for that, you know.

509
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Speaker 4: It is it is, and I think a big part

510
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Speaker 4: of that I have to tell you.

511
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Speaker 3: And this is where, like me, as a male, even

512
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 3: as a game man, I say that it's our responsibility

513
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 3: as well to step up.

514
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Speaker 4: You know.

515
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Speaker 3: When I when I see you know, the conversation that happened,

516
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,719
Speaker 3: it's it's it's us to say this is not okay.

517
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 4: It's for us to check other guys.

518
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Speaker 3: And I'm always constantly telling my sons but as well

519
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 3: my friends. I'm like, yo, when you hear something like that,

520
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 3: you say something like, speak up, like don't let that slide.

521
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 3: You cannot let that slide. I think the more that

522
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 3: in the moment, in the moment, you can't decide, you

523
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 3: can't let one of your boys say something because you

524
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 3: think like, oh my gosh, this is fine, Like it's

525
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 3: just a joke. No, a joke for you is someone

526
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 3: else's self esteem being severely hurt. And for you that

527
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 3: joke it's a joke that you can laugh off and forget.

528
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 3: But for someone else that is now they're in their

529
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Speaker 3: living room or in their their bathroom every day, questioning

530
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Speaker 3: if they're enough, questioning if they look it's lodged in there.

531
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

532
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Speaker 3: And I think it's that responsibility of if you know,

533
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Speaker 3: all I can do is speak.

534
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Speaker 4: To other men.

535
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Speaker 3: I mean I speak to everyone, But like I say,

536
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 3: you've got to speak up in a moment and say no, cut.

537
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Speaker 2: That's not that's so good. It's so good.

538
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's so interesting too write because like you know,

539
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Speaker 1: I'm from the generation that I'm from, and sometimes you're

540
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 1: you're just really hoping that things have changed. But you're right,

541
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: you can't ever like look away or just assume that

542
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: things are changing, because there's there's it's an ongoing struggle

543
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: all different ways.

544
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, big time.

545
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: Okay, So the really big theme in this particular episode

546
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: is about as you brought up the newspaper, So I

547
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: had forgotten this totally. Where out brunch, you know, things

548
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 1: seem fine, Charlotte is like sadly looking at the wedding section,

549
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: and so we see she's she's looking and she's talking

550
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: about how like there's some twenty four year old who

551
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: previously had a job, as though of course now she

552
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: doesn't because she's married her stockbroker or whatever. Also still

553
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: so true, right, so interesting, And then of course she

554
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 1: turns the page and she sees that Big and Natasha

555
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: have gotten married. And I try to very badly hide

556
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Speaker 1: the newspaper under my elbow, and of course, you know,

557
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: Samantha's like, what is that, you know, and then her

558
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: face falls and you know, poor Carrie, and I had

559
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 1: totally forgotten the scene where I go back to Carrie's

560
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 1: apartment with her and Charlotte doesn't want to let her

561
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Speaker 1: be alone.

562
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 2: I had forgotten that.

563
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: But it's such a sweet, sweet scene and it's rare

564
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: that you see Charlotte comforting Carrie, you know, like usually

565
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: it's the other way around. Really nice, and I think

566
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: it was so smart of Charlotte, like this is an

567
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 1: area that she knows about, and she knows Carrie's going

568
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: to try to act like she's fine.

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Speaker 4: Well.

570
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Speaker 3: The funny part is that's the thing that I've always

571
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 3: loved about Charlotte's character is like, okay, even if you

572
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 3: go to the movie, that iconic thing when Big didn't

573
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 3: show up, and Charlotte's the one that's like, no, no,

574
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 3: She's always been that fierce protector of Carrie in love,

575
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Speaker 3: and it has been the most beautiful thing. She's always

576
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Speaker 3: been the one that's like, no, I understand love more

577
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 3: than any of these women, and I'm going to protect

578
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 3: your heart and encourage your heart, but make sure you're

579
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 3: not going to be alone in any of these moments.

580
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Speaker 3: That's a good I think that's what you saw. That's

581
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 3: what you see in that moment, She's like, no, I'm

582
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Speaker 3: going to be here for you.

583
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Speaker 4: Let's read it.

584
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Speaker 3: Let's read it together, and like, let's get through it

585
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 3: so you can have your cry and you're not going

586
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 3: to be alone, and then you're going to know that

587
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 3: love is still.

588
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Speaker 4: Available for you. I think that's what Charlotte does. It's

589
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 4: so really great.

590
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so true and very well put.

591
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 3: But if you think about it, it's also like now Instagram,

592
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 3: Like imagine God day, you and Carrie's your character and

593
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 3: carried character would have been scrolling Instagram and saw the announcement.

594
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 2: So true.

595
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 3: This generation would never understand us opening up newspapers. No,

596
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 3: I know.

597
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: I know, well every time we reach for like one

598
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: of those landlines or those old cell phones, it makes

599
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: me laugh so hard. But also I have such nostalgia

600
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 1: for it because things are changing so quickly now, like

601
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: just so quickly it's insane. But anyway, so then the

602
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 1: other really huge thing I just like to talk about

603
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: the big things first is I had also completely forgotten

604
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: that they go to try and close Miranda and Carrie

605
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: and they run into Natasha in the next dressing room.

606
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I mean your worst nightmare really literally,

607
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: like I mean, I relate to this so much, like

608
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, you think you think, like, okay, I've put

609
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: it over there. In that compartment, right, you know, and

610
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: I'm fine, I'm fine.

611
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 2: I'm fine.

612
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 1: And then like the literal woman walks out, you know,

613
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: and she's tall and beautiful and so cool. You know,

614
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: she's so composed, and Carrie's there.

615
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 2: In her underwear trying to cover her soulf up.

616
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 1: And later when she says, like, you know, she's like

617
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: she lists off the things like she's this, and she's beautiful,

618
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: and she's young, and she's tall, and I'm you know,

619
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 1: short and complicated in my hairs curly and like it's

620
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: just it's.

621
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Speaker 2: So real to me.

622
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: How Carrie, who we really think of as this very

623
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: powerful character, this powerful woman, is just so undone by

624
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: this situation, you know, by it not going the way

625
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: she thought, trying so hard for so long, you know,

626
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: to get Big to show his feelings and you know,

627
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: to try to like she tried so many things with them,

628
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like she's at the

629
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: door I saw the other day on Instagram or must

630
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: have been a TikTok where they have just different cuts

631
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: of her showing up at BIG's door and all the

632
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: different outfits like in her hair dominatrix outfit and her

633
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 1: French made, you know, the beret Like that's later, like

634
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 1: she just tries so.

635
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: Hard, you know, it doesn't work.

636
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: And then he marries this woman who is just the

637
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: opposite of her, which of course we know that that's

638
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: not going to work either, but she doesn't know that

639
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: at this point in time, right, Yeah, And it's just

640
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: so hard to feel, you know, good about yourself and

641
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: complete when this kind of thing has happened, even though

642
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: you know you should well.

643
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: But I know, but it's because our culture always makes

644
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 3: us want to compare.

645
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 4: When you said that scene, it it's so vivid of

646
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 4: like what she says.

647
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 3: She's she's tall, she's beautiful, she's straight hair, I'm curly

648
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 3: hair with a sex columnists, you know, or something whatever.

649
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 4: And it's and you know, one of my.

650
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 3: Things that I've always say to people, it's a quote

651
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 3: that's not mine, but it's comparison to the thief of joy.

652
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 3: And I tell you that all the time time, it's

653
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: you steal your own joy. And what we saw in

654
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 3: that episode is her steal her own joy and still

655
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 3: and and forget how beautiful it is.

656
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 4: And I always try to think to myself, why do

657
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 4: we do that?

658
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 3: And what I love about this episode is it shines

659
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 3: the light on like we can't do that because as

660
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 3: we know, that young woman becomes the most accomplished adult

661
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 3: woman in the world.

662
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 4: She becomes the.

663
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 3: Writer, she becomes powerful, she becomes selfish, assured. But she

664
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 3: needed that lesson, and I think people forget instead of comparing,

665
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 3: we need to say that this was a complete lesson.

666
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 4: That we needed for that moment.

667
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 3: And I think the more you can shift that, yeah,

668
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 3: you can ship that mindset, the better off you are.

669
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 2: I think that's great.

670
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I also think that we wouldn't have had

671
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: to show if she could do that exactly. We needed

672
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: all of them to be going through so much stuff,

673
00:29:54,160 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: so much stuff. Samantha's storyline over here is like the SPA.

674
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the massuse. I had also forgotten about.

675
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 4: I got fired. I totally my mind.

676
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I had totally forgotten that.

677
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: And I literally have never ever in my life heard

678
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: of women getting happy endings at a massage place.

679
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 4: Have you? No, I haven't. I think I.

680
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: Guess that it seems like it would be weird with

681
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: the stranger.

682
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know.

683
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,239
Speaker 3: I think that maybe there could be a couple of

684
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 3: women if they were open to it, Like nothing I'd recommend,

685
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 3: but I think, like, why not.

686
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 2: I mean that's true, Like I.

687
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 4: Mean I do the establishment, maybe.

688
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: Yes, in the class establishment. I mean I do feel

689
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: like massage. I haven't gotten one.

690
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: In forever because I'm too busy with and whatever.

691
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: But like it is such a like a wonderful treat,

692
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, just to have, like and you don't need

693
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: to know the person. It's just comforting to just have

694
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: someone in your body, which is.

695
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 3: Right.

696
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: But the thing that also I had totally forgotten about

697
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: how Carrie and Samantha then go to that event that

698
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: Natasha is doing, you know, that charity event, but then

699
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: Natasha's not even there. Carrie buys these shoes and she

700
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: has tea with me and I said, she says, do

701
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: you want to see my shoes?

702
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, you mean.

703
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: The shoes you can't afford, which is foreshadowing her whole

704
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: shoe debt, you know, and then wanting the money from

705
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: me many seasons later. Like it's also interesting, like how

706
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: connected our writers were in terms of these little moments

707
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: that then build up over time. But then so Samantha

708
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: and Carrie go off to the to the event, you know,

709
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: looking fantastic.

710
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: Then of course Natasha's not there, and then I had

711
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: totally forgotten that.

712
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: They run into the woman at the bah who had

713
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: told Samantha that that particular messeuse went down on her,

714
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: and there are three women there, and the woman says,

715
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: that's the one who got him fired.

716
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: And they're like, oh what, you got him fired? And

717
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: then this one woman says, well, who's gonna me now.

718
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 4: What?

719
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my god, what kind of drama

720
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: was going on with this guy?

721
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: I had forgotten all of that.

722
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it was quite something, but I mean almost

723
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: I would have to go back to Cindy and ask

724
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: her what this was based on, because usually all of

725
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: our storylines had to be based on something that had

726
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: happened to.

727
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: The writers or their friends.

728
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: It could be once removed like it wasn't the actors.

729
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: Everyone thought these were our stories. There were never our

730
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: stories that got because that would be very hard to

731
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: play your own story, right. Yes, yes, but it was

732
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: always had to be like based in a real story.

733
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 3: So that means there are women out there that are

734
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: getting their happy endits I know.

735
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 4: I mean I don't know aware.

736
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, I guess good for them.

737
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so bizarre to think about it. But

738
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: it's perfect for Samantha of course, because she really wanted

739
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: this and then she doesn't get it and she's really sad.

740
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: And then for me, I mean, I feel like, I mean,

741
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. Of course, my whole storyline could absolutely

742
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: be based on me, because I hate my legs. You know,

743
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,959
Speaker 1: they knew I hate my legs. I was always worried about,

744
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: you know, what I was wearing or whatever. And I

745
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: remember that this director of Pam Thomas, she had come

746
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: from the commercial world, and she always had a really

747
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: good visual eye. So I remember when I'm running through

748
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: the spa and it kind of has like comedy music,

749
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,239
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm like trying to like little by

750
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: little ice. I hide behind this like tower of towels

751
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: and I let my towel down to my waist or whatever,

752
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: and then I run, I scurry like a little mouse

753
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: into the spa and then I take my towel down

754
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: and I'm all nervous, and then this woman goes I

755
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: would kill for your breasts, and I'm like, okay, like

756
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: you know who, this worked out like I hadn't known

757
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: about that.

758
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 2: You know, which I had forgotten that whole thing.

759
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: And I mean it's it's only like the comedic, you know,

760
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: you there was like there there'd be like an A, B, C.

761
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: D storyline for all four of us. And you know,

762
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: that's just how it is when you have for strong

763
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: leads or however you wanted to find it. And mine

764
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: is definitely the D. But I still love it, like

765
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: it has so much resonance that like you're worried about

766
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: one thing, you forget about what you have that other

767
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: people would want.

768
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Yes, of course that's what

769
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 3: we're talking about earlier with the comparison, like to see

770
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 3: your character be validated later on about something that they

771
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 3: were confused about.

772
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 4: I think it was the most beautiful part to see

773
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 4: me too right.

774
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: Like she was sure would never think like, oh yeah,

775
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: I do have good press like you. She's like, oh wow,

776
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: this is an outcome I didn't foresee happening.

777
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: I dig it, I dig it like it's nice.

778
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: It's nice to see to like even just the little

779
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: moments of growth you know, along the way, because we.

780
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 4: All know hbos where they were all still doing like

781
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 4: full bush in the locker room.

782
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 3: I mean there was a.

783
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: Lot of naked lady. I was shocked. I don't remember that.

784
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: I was like, whoa do they pep you and say

785
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 3: when you walk on set there's gonna be forty million

786
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: naked ladies there?

787
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 4: Like how did Like I mean they must have.

788
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: They must have because we just a is back before

789
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: the intimacy coordinators, right, but we would still I mean, gosh,

790
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: you know, this is a good question because now what

791
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: you would need to do, Like there'd be so many

792
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: precautions taken, right, Like you know how you have video

793
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: village on a set.

794
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: Right, Like, yeah, video village would have.

795
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: Been like everyone would have been sent away and to

796
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: make sure there weren't like lookie loose, you know at

797
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: the village and all that to make those women feel

798
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: safe and protected. And this is a long time ago,

799
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: so who knows what happened then, And I didn't even

800
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: remember that it happened, right, So I'm not gonna remember this.

801
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: But I do think we would have like a clothes set,

802
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: you know, so let's say, like the larger crew wouldn't

803
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: be standing there, you know, like the lighting guys and

804
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: the grip you know what I mean, like all of

805
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: those people would go.

806
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: But those ladies seemed really relaxed.

807
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure that they had been hired like

808
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: with the knowledge of, you know, what they were going

809
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: to do, you know what I mean. But I hadn't

810
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: remembered that there were that many naked ladies.

811
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: There were a lot. There were a lot of naked ladies.

812
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 2: There were a lot. I mean it was kind of cool,

813
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 2: you know, because it was like relaxed. They were very relaxed.

814
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's funny enough to look back because some

815
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: of these things I don't remember, and I'm like impressed

816
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: that we did it.

817
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, ahead of its time. That's why it's a cultural phenomenon.

818
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 4: It's true.

819
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 2: It's so nice.

820
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: It's so nice that it still holds up and you

821
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: still don't don't see these things.

822
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's another funny little trivia thing.

823
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: When they do go to this this writing luncheon that

824
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: we talk about, Carrie says she's checking in and they

825
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: have a weird moment where her name might not be

826
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: on there, and Samantha and she were talking and they

827
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: they say, oh, there's Gloria Steine across the room. Now

828
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: we never see Glorious Steinem in this particular scene. But

829
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: later on Gloria comes on our show and then just

830
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 1: like that, and all of us had been huge Glorious

831
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: Steinem fans, our moms were all you know, had Miss

832
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: magazine on the table when we were growing up.

833
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 3: There was a big one where she reclaimed her power

834
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 3: when she found out that she spelled their wrong.

835
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that.

836
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: I had forgotten that as well. I'd forgotten that as well.

837
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 2: So that is the scene after So.

838
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: She goes to this lunch and thinking that she's going

839
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: to look fabulous and present herself beautifully, and then Natasha

840
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: isn't even there, which is kind of a disappointment. So

841
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: she goes home and the voice of her kind of

842
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: connects it all and Natasha, even though she didn't make

843
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: it to the event, sends out handwritten thank you notes,

844
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: which is kind of impressive, I think, But then when

845
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: she goes to read it, she realizes that Natasha has

846
00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: spelled their wrongly for the sentence and for a writer,

847
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: of course, that's like hugely important. And she immediately calls

848
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: Miranda on her clunky old phone and says, I believe

849
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: She says it's.

850
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: A good thing. She got married. The woman is an

851
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: idiot woo burn my god.

852
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: But it is kind of that kind of definitely like

853
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: self claiming amongst ourselves, like you know what, we're we're smarter,

854
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 1: we're better, we can do these things.

855
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: We're out here in the world.

856
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: You know, we're not gonna get married, and like fall

857
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: back on that, you know, a greed.

858
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: Wait, and then there's something.

859
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: Oh oh, I didn't realize that the reference in the

860
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: title is to the nineteen fifty eight film Attack of

861
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: the Fifty Foot Woman. Oh ye, well, that kind of

862
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: makes sense then, because that's what she seems like to carry,

863
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And it does. My notes

864
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: here do tell me that the New York Times wedding

865
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: announcements are still a thing, which is funny as if

866
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: you're like coming from one of those families where it

867
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: was important, you can still do.

868
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: The as well as the Instagram, you know what I mean?

869
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 3: Right, So I want to get married and put that

870
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 3: in there, not because I really want it in there,

871
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 3: just because I want to have a moment where an

872
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 3: axe opens it up and season getting married.

873
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that's real, that's real, that's real, that's real.

874
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 4: I do it.

875
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, you could do it if you wanted.

876
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, do what you want.

877
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 4: And it's just also interesting not to do what your writers.

878
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 3: Did really well, and why just to keep praising you all,

879
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: because it really is.

880
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 4: I'm glad to give your flowers.

881
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 3: Is those type of scenes, like we see Natasha is

882
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: insecure as well. She doesn't want to come, she doesn't

883
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 3: want to confront this anymore. This is not about like

884
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Speaker 3: because if I'm on the board.

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Speaker 4: Of something, I'm to come. But it just shows that

886
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 4: we all have our own securities.

887
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 3: We're all on our own head, and even the most

888
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 3: perfect amound among us, we're all making mistakes.

889
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 4: And so the best lesson is just live your life

890
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 4: for you and love your life how it is.

891
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 3: And I that's why when they said this was the episode,

892
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 3: I thought to myself, Oh, I know it.

893
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Speaker 4: I know this episode because the rest.

894
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Speaker 1: I'm so impressed I remember this episode at all.

895
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Speaker 4: I'm super pair.

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Speaker 2: I have a question for you. Yes, are you a Charlotte?

897
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 3: So I believe that you have to find out from

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Speaker 3: other people.

899
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Speaker 4: So before we got on this, the entire my entire.

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Speaker 3: Coramo show staff was upstairs and a lot of them

901
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 3: have worked also worked with me on Queer Eye for

902
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 3: the last ten seasons. And I said, I need you

903
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 3: all to tell me who I am. And the general

904
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Speaker 3: consensus from everyone is that I'm a Charlotte.

905
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,479
Speaker 4: I'm a Charlotte. They all said it.

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Speaker 2: That's so nice.

907
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 3: I think the only part that got me because I'm

908
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 3: not as like prudish, you know what I mean. I'm

909
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 3: still like a gay man. I'm older, so like my

910
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 3: my hoey days are gone and then behind me.

911
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 2: But you know, it was kind of a prude.

912
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: But if you actually watch she actually you know, there

913
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: was a pretty high body count, you know what I'm saying.

914
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Speaker 4: Pretty high.

915
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 3: Yes, you had our fun, yes, but yeah, they all said, No,

916
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Speaker 3: you're the romantic, You're the kind one.

917
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 4: You're always like telling people to giving them an advice

918
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 4: and telling them to slow down and be good. And

919
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 4: so apparently I'm the Charlotte. I didn't know, and they

920
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Speaker 4: would have asked me. I thought they were going to

921
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 4: say I was like Miranda, but I guess I'm not.

922
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 4: I guess I'm not.

923
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: You know, maybe you're a man of Miranda inside your

924
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: own head.

925
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 4: In my head, I'm Miranda, right.

926
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Speaker 2: I love it. I love it.

927
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Speaker 1: I haven't had anyone yet go and take a poll,

928
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Speaker 1: So I really appreciate that research.

929
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Speaker 3: Very nice, very because you know what, this is my thing.

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Speaker 3: When everybody talks about Second City, they all want to

931
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Speaker 3: claim who they are.

932
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Speaker 2: Got it?

933
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 4: No, no, you got it? And when they claim who

934
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 4: they are, I'm like, no, you're not that person.

935
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Speaker 1: I know. I mean sometimes I do think like who

936
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Speaker 1: you are in your own mind. Yeah, it's not very

937
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: different than like how friends you or the world sees

938
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Speaker 1: your or whatever.

939
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Speaker 4: You're pretty exceptional and amazing. Sweet, thank you.

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00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 2: I'm so throng you came on the podcast. What a joy.

941
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 4: Anytime anything for you.

942
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: You're amazing. I would love to come on your show.

943
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 4: You're great anytime.

944
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 3: Yes listen, have a great day, and thank you so

945
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 3: much and good luck with everything you too.

946
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

947
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Speaker 4: By love