1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: The Biden administration is once again taking him at the 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: Second Amendment. The A t F has issued a new 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: rule that would treat guns with stabilizing braces stabilizing accessories 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: like they treat short barreled rifles. The reason why this 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: matter is is that short barreled rifles require a federal 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: license to own under the National Firearms Act. Senate Republicans 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: have said of this new rule that it would turn 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: millions of law abiding Americans into criminals overnight and would 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: constitute the largest executive branch imposed gun registration and confiscations 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: scheme in American history. Now we're talking about a lot 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: of people here too. The Congressional Research Service puts the 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: number of owners of these braces, of these accessories as 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: high as ten to forty million. A lot of disabled 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: gun owners and veterans, they rely on these braces for 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: stability and firearms handling. So we're also talking about a 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: targeting of disabled gun owners and veterans. We're going to 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: talk to one sheriff who says, you know what, I'm 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: not doing this. I'm not been forcing this, this is unconstitutional. 19 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,639 Speaker 1: His name is vic Regolato. He is the Tulsa County 20 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: sheriff in Oklahoma and he's next, Well, Sheriff Vick Regolato. 21 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for coming on the show. Sorry, I 22 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: appreciate you taking the time absolutely thanks for having me. 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: So I wanted to start and talk through because you're 24 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: standing up for the Constitution. You're standing up against this 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: a t F rule, which is a big deal. You know. 26 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how familiar some folks at home are 27 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: about this, but it really is a big deal. And essentially, 28 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: what they're doing is they're treating guns with stabilizing accessories 29 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: the way that they treat short barreled rifles, which requires 30 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: a federal license to own under the National Firearms Act. 31 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: I guess let's kind of start from the beginning. What 32 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: do these stabilizing braces do. So. Stabilizing braces initially were created, 33 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: uh to assist people with disabilities, many of which were 34 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: our veterans, um so that they could have a the 35 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: ability to fire a weapon. Um. You know. And what's 36 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: ironic about this ruling now is that in twelve thirteen, 37 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: the Obama administration you know, basically validated that saying that 38 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: they did serve a purpose, that they were used with 39 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: people with disabilities and that they did not change the 40 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: definition or makeup of the firearm by simply attaching the brace. 41 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: And so here we are a decade later, and all 42 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the definition is changing and things like that. UM. 43 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: So you know, there's about three million of these bracets, 44 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: and and I would tell you upfront that most people, 45 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: most Americans, have no idea what a stabilizing bracets, you know, 46 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: and considering the fact that I think there's approximately three 47 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: million of those in America right now, UH tells you 48 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: that you know that the overwhelming majority have no idea 49 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: what this is at. And what I tell those people 50 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: is this, this whole idea is not is really at 51 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: its core, not about the stabilizing brace itself or even 52 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: the guns. It's about people's rights under the Constitution. And 53 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: if we continue to shave those rights, whether it's stabilizing 54 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: braces or having to register firearms, UM, we don't get 55 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: those rights back, and before you know it, the entire 56 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: right is gone. And so UM I try to simplify 57 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: it for people that are not gunn enthusiasts, UM and 58 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: and ask, well, what's what's the big deal about outlawing 59 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: or UH registering firearms? That have braces and and with 60 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: what I would tell them is exactly that it's it's 61 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: not about the gun itself. It's about the fact that 62 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: you have the right and it's clearly outlined in the 63 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: Second Amendment, and it should not be infringed upon. And 64 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: that's what's happening here. And that's the most important part 65 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: that I want people to take into account, is your 66 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: rights are are are being taken away, slowly but surely. Well. 67 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: I totally agree with you, and I pointed out to 68 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: you before we started, like, look, I'm a baby gone owner, 69 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: Like I just got my concealed carry. I just got 70 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: my first firearm, you know, a P three sixty five 71 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: like standard concealed carry. You know. So I'm I I 72 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: knew with this, So it's good to have these these 73 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: helpful explanations. My understanding is, you know, the ruling, it's 74 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: a couple hundred pages long, it's very confusing, and the 75 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: Congressional research surface actually put ownership potentially as high as 76 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: ten to forty million. But I guess it depends on 77 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: how you read this ruling, because it is very confusing 78 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, what would be applicable here, 79 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: Why do you think the a t F has decided 80 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: to target these braces specifically. I think there's different opinions 81 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: and ideas about it. I think that it is a 82 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: again a slow but methodical movement in which to UM 83 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,559 Speaker 1: diminished the Second Amendment and people's rights to bear arms 84 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: and all that that means, and you know, and the 85 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: taxation and and things like that, because really, on its 86 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: face it's arbitrary. UM. It's certainly I think those or 87 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: contradicts the Due Process Clause or Administrative Procedures Act and 88 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: things like that. And and this was already done when 89 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: they tried to UH to UH make a ruling on 90 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: on bump stocks to circuit Coarter crem of Appeals stated 91 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: that they couldn't do that, and yet here we are 92 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: again doing the same thing. So again this is you know, 93 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: what I want to stress to people's this is not 94 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: about the brace as it really isn't. It's about your 95 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: rights and the continued UH process and with the federal 96 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,559 Speaker 1: government is trying to diminish those rights, and we can't 97 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: allow that. UM. And as sheriff who has taken an 98 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: oath to uphold the Constitution and defend it, that's what 99 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm doing. And I think us across this country or 100 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: joining in or have already joined in, and you know, 101 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: we we have to we have to say no to 102 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: this type of stuff. Well, and I'm glad you put 103 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: it that way, because I think that gets lost oftentimes 104 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: in these discussions as people are like, oh, well, it's 105 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: just a stabilizing race, it's just this, it's it's just that. 106 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: And then to your point, it's just a chipping chipping, 107 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: chipping away when the underlying objective, which you know, Joe Biden, 108 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: the Biden administration is essentially you're already stated, is that 109 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: they want to get rid of all guns. You know, 110 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: he's even targeted nine millimeters such as like little baby 111 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: gun owners like me owned. So that's really the end 112 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: objective is just to to get rid of the Second Amendment. 113 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: I mean, they don't believe in it, No, they don't. 114 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: And it's also a roundabout way an attempt to have 115 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: citizens register their firearms. Um. So there's a whole lot 116 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: going on here, and this won't be the last one. 117 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: I think that. In fact, I think the hundred and 118 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: twenty days that with this rule would going to affect today. Uh, 119 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: I might be off by a few days or so. 120 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, I think that this will be met with 121 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: the same beliegal ramifications that the bum stock was and 122 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: and this will go to court and again be overturned. 123 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: But uh, this, this type of activity is going to 124 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: continue until the people say enoughc enough, or until people 125 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: stand up like sheriffs and law enforcement and say listen, 126 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: you cannot do that. And I'll tell you that the 127 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: response here has been overwhelmingly positive. And but the detractors, 128 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: what I've seen is that they're saying, well, I'm picking 129 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: and choosing what laws that I will enforce, and that's 130 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: simply not true. And I would remind people that Congress 131 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: has the legislative authority in which to enact laws or 132 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: definitions regarding firearms, not the A t F. And if 133 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: we allow that, could you imagine where would that stop? 134 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: And so this is not a law, it's unconstitutional, and 135 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: therefore no, we will not partake, enforce or support this 136 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: this ruling. Well, and unfortunately Republicans in Congress have stood 137 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 1: up and said, you know, to your point what you're saying, 138 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: this is unconstitutional. We don't stand by this, and said up. 139 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: Republicans have said, almost all of them have said This 140 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: would turn millions of law abiding Americans into criminals overnight 141 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: and would constitute the largest executive branch impose gun registration 142 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: and confiscation scheme and American history. Pretty strong wording there 143 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: in terms of what this administration is trying to do 144 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: with this specifically. Absolutely, and also I want to point 145 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: out real quick is that when we start talking about 146 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: the A t F, we're not talking about the rank 147 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: and file. I can assure you that, especially here in Tulsa, 148 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: these are good men and women who who enforced the law, 149 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: who protect the constitution because they have taken that oath 150 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: as well. This is more of the upper administration, the 151 00:08:55,440 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: DC administration that again is leveling and and and arbitrarily 152 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: trying to create rules that affect the citizens of this country, 153 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: uh in a negative way. Um. So I don't want 154 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: to demonize or or you know, kind of put a 155 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: broad blanket over the A t F. The rank and 156 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: file are by no means responsible for this. This again 157 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: is you know from the director on that as usual 158 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: and the rank and file get caught between the rock 159 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: and the hard place. Well you know, and it's coming 160 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: from Joe Biden who has repeatedly said that the Second 161 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: Amendment is not absolute. Who has you know, tried to 162 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: to take aim at even you know, concealed carrey every 163 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: day firearms that you know people use. I really liked 164 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: what you wrote in your statement when you said, you know, look, 165 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: this is unconstitutional. I'm not going to enforce this because 166 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: you said, once again, we are witnessing federal overreach that 167 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: would not impact the criminal element, but only the law 168 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: abiding citizens rights under the Constitution of the United States. 169 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: And I think that's what a lot of people don't 170 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: understand is a lot of what the Biden administration is 171 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: doing a lot of this gun control. It doesn't imp 172 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: the criminality, It doesn't impact the criminals. It impacts us, 173 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 1: you know, the law abiding citizens you just want to 174 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: be able to protect ourselves, who don't want to do 175 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: any harm with our guns, who take it seriously. So 176 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about that, about how this isn't 177 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: going to make your life easier in terms of stopping criminals. No, 178 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: it absolutely won't. And you know, the one uh example 179 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: at that point people towards is that, um, some of 180 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: our country's most violent cities have the strictest gun laws. 181 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: And here locally, I also point to a state law 182 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: that was enacted a few years ago where you cannot 183 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: carry a firearm into the state fair, which brings about 184 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: a million and a half people annually too, and yet 185 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: we continue to confiscate illegal firearms within the fair in 186 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: the hands of criminals. So now when you look at that, 187 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: you have a million and a half people, which the 188 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: overwhelming majority of our law abiding, so they do not 189 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: bring their firearm, and and now they are roaming around 190 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: the fair with criminals who are armed, who do not 191 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: care about the law. And so I would ask anyone 192 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: explain to me how these laws are assisting or protecting 193 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: our citizens. They're not. What they're doing is leaving them open, 194 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: unprotected to predators and criminals who arm themselves and don't 195 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: care about the law. I mean, that's really if when 196 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: you look at it from a common sense point of view, Um, 197 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: it's really should be really clear to you that these 198 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: types of arbitrary laws and rulings again do not affect 199 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: the criminals because they don't care about those things. They 200 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: affect the law abiding citizen, and we just can't have that. 201 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: We really have got to start gearing our criminal justice 202 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: system not around the criminal, but around the lawbiding citizen. 203 00:11:58,440 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: And until we do that, we are going to con 204 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: tinue to see criminal criminality rise in this Uh, in 205 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: this country, violence rise in this country, and the only 206 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: people who are going to pay for it again are 207 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: the law abiding citizen. And we're really already experiencing a 208 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: lot of that. You know, me, I have to go 209 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: to New York City quite frequently for work, and I 210 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: gotta tell you, my head's on a swivel. You know. 211 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: I used to take the subway every day when I 212 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: lived there for almost three years. I take the subway 213 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: to work. I wouldn't I wouldn't ride the subway now, 214 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: I mean, couldn't pay me enough to ride this subway. 215 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: How do you think we've arrived here in the country 216 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: where there's just so many cities now that are just 217 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: utterly lawless. Um. I think that it wasn't something that 218 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: happened overnight. Again. I always point to think, uh coming 219 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 1: I said earlier about our rights being shaved and then 220 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: waking up one day and realizing we no longer have 221 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: those rights. This has been happening over decades, uh, And 222 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: there's so many factors that have gotten us to where 223 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: we're at today. You know, the legalization of drugs, uh, 224 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: the diminishing workforce and law enforcement, um, you know, the 225 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: change in the way we look at our our first 226 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: responders and the rule of law. It's like we've said, hey, 227 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: you know, this law is really inconvenient, so let's just 228 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: not follow it. And so we've now became where we 229 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: were once a nation of laws, were now a nation 230 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: of well will follow some of the laws. And so 231 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: over a period of time, I think that a lot 232 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: of you know, society has deteriorated to the point now 233 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: we're we just don't care or we don't you know, 234 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: we just turned the other way. When we've seen some 235 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: of our our most magnificent cities and communities in this 236 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: country uh now become a haven for criminals and violent 237 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: crime and drug dens. And it's just like, yeah, you 238 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: know what, it's not happening here. So it's not my problem, 239 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: and it has become our problem. It's become everybody's problem. 240 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: I think, you know, big factors are national media does 241 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: not high idea um you know, and and that's that's 242 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: terrible because what it does is that the average citizen 243 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: is now ignorant as to what is going on and 244 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: it's much like the braces. Uh. You know. Again, I 245 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: would point to the fact that I think a good 246 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: portion of our society has no idea what the braces 247 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: or the significance of the A. T f S ruling 248 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: because it hasn't been covered, you know. And uh, and 249 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: yet five years from now, if this is not put 250 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: in check, they wake up and realize, wait a minute, 251 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: I can't have what or I can't do this, or 252 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: I have to register that. Wait what happened? And that, 253 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: I think is why the problems that we're facing today 254 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: is a lot of factors. Quick commercial break back with 255 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: the sheriff on the other side. Well, and it's interesting 256 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: because you know the left always you know, they're democracy, democracy, 257 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: but then you know they go after you know, the 258 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: First Amendment, the Second Amendment, you know, the things that 259 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: make us a free people. Why do you think they 260 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: have such a problem with the Second Amendment? You know, 261 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: I think it's partly fear. I think it's partly ignorance 262 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: as to what a firearm is um and and that 263 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: is simply a tool like anything else. Um And I 264 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: think it takes away power. The left, especially today's woke left, 265 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: is about power and you cannot control a populace that 266 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: is armed. Um. And I think, you know, years from now, 267 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: and I hope I'm really wrong on this, but years 268 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: from now, it's going to be the armed populace that 269 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: saves this country, whether it's from a foreign invader or 270 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: domestic um. And people don't see that, but if you can, 271 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: could you imagine right now if you magically made all 272 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: the firearms disappear, what would happen? Well, we'd be in 273 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: some serious trouble, not only from the criminality, but from 274 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: an overreaching government. Um. You know. So I think it's 275 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: it's a lot of different things as to why the left, 276 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: especially today's left, um, is so intent on taking away 277 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: people's Second Amendment rights. Well, I even got into it 278 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: with my own mayor here in Miami because they were 279 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: doing a gun buy back program to give the guns 280 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: to Ukraine. And I'm like, do not see the irony 281 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: and disarming your own citizens storm another group of citizens? 282 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: Like do you not see why maybe we would want 283 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: our own guns here? You know? Like do you do? 284 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: You not? But you know it's wild to me sometimes 285 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: they don't get it. It is and and really when 286 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: you look at, uh, what I would point to and 287 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: and it's back by facts, is that throughout history, the 288 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: the quickest and most efficient way to decrease violence in 289 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,239 Speaker 1: our cities, communities, towns, counties, it is by an effective 290 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: police force. That's just a fact. And now we're looking 291 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: at diminished police forces. Everybody's leaving or retiring. Um, you know, 292 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: any time that, uh, something bad has happened within the ranks, 293 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: it's highlighted, and the good, which is the overwhelming majority 294 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: of police officers in this country do great things every 295 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: day for their communities, is never highlighted, you know. And 296 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that the bad things shouldn't be I 297 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: think they should. I think transparency is big in law 298 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: enforcement and should be a number one thing that we 299 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: operate under. But because of the continued highlighting of the negative, 300 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 1: people aren't wanting to be a first responder anymore. And 301 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: so what happens, right is that crime goes up and 302 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: service to the people goes down. And that's what's happening today. 303 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: And so now when you want to say, well, let's 304 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: disarm you, I mean, seriously, could you. That's why you 305 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: don't ride the subway right because of the criminality there. 306 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: But I bet you would if there was a cop 307 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: on each car and you felt protected and all these 308 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: other things, right, you would have no problem. So to me, 309 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: it's a very common sense thing. And it's just a 310 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: incredible when we have these sends of conversations and people 311 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: who tried to detract from it, it's just incredible to 312 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: me they have no factual basis or foundation in which 313 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: to uh move on the plans that they've enacted now 314 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: and and this idea that guns are bad or you know, speech, 315 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: certain speech should be banned, things like that, it's just 316 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: incredible to me. You know, the media has told a 317 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: lot of lies which have led to you know, where 318 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: we are today. I mean, I've really tried to do 319 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: my best to stand up against this where you know, 320 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: even post Ferguson, right, you know, Officer Tarren Wilson was innocent, 321 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: you know, Michael Brown was the aggressor. Obama's own Department 322 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: of Justice found that to be true. He cleared Officer 323 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: Darren Wilson. That didn't stop the media from lying with 324 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 1: the whole hands up, don't shoot. That didn't stop Obama 325 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: from lying to the public. You know, it didn't stop 326 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: this narrow of from taking hold and I think one 327 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: of the most telling things is even Rama Manuel, when 328 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: he was mayor of Chicago a while back, he had 329 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: said that these lies, that this narrative had put officers 330 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: in the fetal position where so many people are fearful 331 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: to do their jobs because of the ramifications that could 332 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,239 Speaker 1: come after. I mean, what kind of impact has this 333 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: all had on, you know, policing in America and just 334 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: police feeling like, you know, I'm hamstrong, I'm afraid to 335 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: do my job in this society. Well, I'll tell you 336 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: here locally and across this country, having talked to two 337 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: different chiefs and sheriffs across this country. Um, the biggest 338 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: thing that we're missing is the quote unquote calling. And 339 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: it sounds cliche, um, but it really isn't. And what 340 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: I mean by that is that thirty years ago, when 341 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: I entered in law enforcement, I had this calling. I 342 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: knew I wanted to be a cop, and I wanted 343 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: to protect and chase bad guys and do all these 344 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: these really cool things, right, But the foundation of it 345 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: was to serve and protect. And now I will tell 346 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: you that when I interview perspective deputies and people like 347 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: that that are coming into law enforcement. Uh. The answer 348 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: to the to the question, the most common question and 349 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: police interviews is why do you want to be a copy? 350 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: It's no longer to protect and serve and chase bad 351 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: guys and do all these really exciting things right now, 352 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: it's well, one of the most standard answers I get 353 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: now as well. I feel like if I come aboard, 354 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: I could ridge the gap between the community and policing 355 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: and show them that we're really not racist. And I'm like, okay, 356 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 1: I said so. When I first started hearing that, I 357 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: would ask a follow up questions, say, well, give me 358 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: an example of racism and law enforcement or systemic race 359 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: and law enforcement, And almost one of the time the 360 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: answer would be, well, I can't specifically give you one, 361 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: but you know, you see it on TV all the 362 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: time and and so over time, what that has told 363 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: me is that people are getting this idea of law 364 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:15,239 Speaker 1: enforcement from the media, from uh social media. Uh, and 365 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: it's not factual. And so now, why would you want 366 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: to be a cop? Right? And and and if you 367 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: don't have that calling, well, what are we gonna do? 368 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: What Who's gonna stand in the gap and protect you 369 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: and protect your communities? Who? And what you're seeing now 370 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: is police departments and sheriff's office and we're no different 371 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: throwing money at the situation. Right, So we're gonna give 372 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: you a ten thousand dollar signing bonus and we're gonna 373 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: up your pay here. We're gonna do this for you. 374 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: And I will tell you that you might see a 375 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: spike in recruiting recruiting because of the money, but the 376 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: long term consequences of that is it's again, it's putting 377 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: a band aid on a gushing wound. Uh. You don't 378 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: come into this type of profess to make money. Everybody 379 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: knows that you don't get rich being a cop. And 380 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: you know, you do this job because you want to 381 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: serve and you want to protect and we're losing that. 382 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: And that's what's most concerning to me, because I think 383 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: we've lost the last two generations and if we don't 384 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: start now changing the narrative, we're going to lose the 385 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: next two. And where were going to be at? I mean, 386 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: that's such a good point and something to know, certainly, 387 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: you know, think about and a lot of these situations, 388 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: which I'm sure has got to be really challenging as 389 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: a police officer. Is you know, you look at places 390 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: like New York City, for example, and you've got the 391 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: d A there who just doesn't prosecute. So if you're 392 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: a cop and you're putting your life at risk to 393 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: try to get a criminal and then you know they 394 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: end up just being released, It's like that has got 395 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: to be incredibly discouraging in terms of your willingness to 396 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: to put your life on the line for you know, 397 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: someone who's just gonna end up getting out of prison 398 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: and a repeat offender. Yeah, you know, I'm going to 399 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: circle back around to the racist the at F is 400 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: literally telling us that in that city a t F. 401 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: Really it's it's the U. S. Attorney General, Merrick Garland, 402 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: who who stated when this rule first came out, is 403 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: that it would uh increase or enhance public safety. So 404 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: think about that for a second. We have district attorneys 405 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: across this country who have been put in place, UH 406 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: for specific reason, and that is to not prosecute violent crime. 407 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: And that's just a fact, okay. And so what have 408 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: we seen? What we've seen skyrocketing violent crime and quality 409 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: of life diminished. And here we have the U. S. 410 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: Attorney UH in this country saying that by outlawing or uh, 411 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, braces um that that's going to enhance public safety. 412 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: I would love to see the facts behind that. There 413 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: are none, right, and so again in we're not doing 414 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 1: what we should be doing. There's rules, there's laws on 415 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: the books now that uh can deal with the criminal 416 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: element and then being armed, and we're not enforcing them, 417 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: we're not prosecuting them, and we're letting people out of jail. Uh, 418 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: you know all these other things that have impacted crime 419 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: in this country, and we continue to look the other way. 420 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm talking about. People have to stand 421 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 1: up and start forcing their concerns and taking a stand 422 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: that you know, enough enough and this has to stop. 423 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: Quick break more on this important issue. We've reached this 424 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: conclusion as a society that somehow it's you know, quote 425 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: unquote equity to not convict criminals or to not go 426 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: after criminals, and somehow it's raises to put people behind 427 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: bars who you know, commit crimes, which is you know, 428 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: in part led us to this insanity. You kind of 429 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: alluded to it just now. But how do we turn 430 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: this ship around, sir? How do we go back to 431 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: a law and order society again? I think that, uh 432 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: you know, we talk about it in law enforcement circles 433 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: all the time, and I think it's it's going to 434 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: be a slow process. Again. We didn't get here overnight, 435 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: and we're not gonna reverse things overnight. But we have 436 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: to start getting out into the community. I do a 437 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: lot of public speaking here in Tulsa, and I intentionally 438 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: go to uh two groups that even you know aren't 439 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: even a big fan of mine, UM to tell them 440 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: about what's going on, to point to the facts of 441 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: what's going on. UM. I tell people that who asked, 442 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: what can we do, get to our youth, Get to 443 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: our youth and let them know that, uh, you know, 444 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: it's okay to want to protect. It's okay, uh you know, 445 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: to to put yourself out there for the better good. 446 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: It's okay to believe in something much bigger than yourself 447 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: and to serve that. You know, I mean, our institution's 448 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: family and and and religion have all been diminished as well. 449 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: And you know, when you have nothing to believe in, UM, 450 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: then you don't start believing in yourself. And what what 451 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: what happens to especially a child who doesn't believe in 452 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: themselves and you know they're empty, and what do they 453 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: turn to, Well, they turn to destructive things like drugs, 454 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: and and and crime and all this other stuff. I 455 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: think we have a lot to work on, um, and 456 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna take a lot more than just 457 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: law enforcement. It's it's you know, our our pastors are 458 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: priests have to start stepping up and quit being woke 459 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: for the sake of being woke. UM. I think we 460 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: need to stop being afraid of what people are going 461 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,959 Speaker 1: to say about us on social media. You know, I 462 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: could care less about that, um, because I know that 463 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: the reality is the overwhelming majority of people are just 464 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: feel just like I do. And you know, so I 465 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: think just right now, I think that courage, faith and 466 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: all those things need to stop just being at buzzwords. 467 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: I think we need to really take him to heart 468 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: and start moving forward and and doing the courageous thing 469 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: and standing up. I really do and in time, UM, 470 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: I think you know, we'll start to see things turn around. 471 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: Very well, said sir, I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said, 472 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: and I appreciate your bravery in this instance and what 473 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: you do for a living. Sir. Sheriffick Rugolado, Tulsa County sheriff. 474 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Sir, I really appreciate your time. 475 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: I appreciate what you doing, so thank you. Thank you 476 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: for having me on. So that was Shareff Vic Ragolado 477 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: of Tulsa County. I appreciate his time, appreciate what he's doing. 478 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: Gives you a lot of confidence that we still have people, 479 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: you know, who are serving this country for the right reasons, 480 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: who are in it for the right reasons, who want 481 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: to protect and serve. So thankful for him and his 482 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: time and bringing tension to this important issue. I want 483 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: to thank you guys at home for listening. I want 484 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: to thank John, Cassie and my producer for putting the 485 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: show together every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen 486 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: throughout the week. 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