1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you 3 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 5 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: It estus the October sixth, twenty twenty, season sixteen, episode 8 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: number thirty eight. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break. 9 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: We're live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, 10 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: we got forty five minutes and we're gonna make the 11 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: most of it. Today. We got a lot to talk about. 12 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: There was a lot of talk that we heard yesterday 13 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: from the head coach and the coordinators that we're gonna 14 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: get into. There was some interesting things that they said. 15 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: And then, as promised by Amber yesterday, we're gonna fix 16 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: this thing. We've got some I got some questions for 17 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: these guys on how the Cowboys fix what's happening right 18 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: now with their team sitting at one in three. And 19 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: then we'll finish off the show. Maybe if we have 20 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: enough time, we'll get into a little NFC East talk. 21 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: Not a lot going on there, but we'll talk about 22 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: it a little bit. What one sucks right now? I mean, 23 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: like that's easy to segment done, so we don't have 24 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: to learn about that one. No One, no one looks 25 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: really good, but somebody has to win it. Well awesome, 26 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: So by the end of the show, I'm gonna ask 27 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: you guys, who's the best one in this NFC East 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: Which is probably a hard, hard question to answer right now, 29 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: but we'll do that towards the end of the show. 30 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: All right, So let's first jump in Mike McCarthy. Yesterday, 31 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: he has this press conference with the media, and the 32 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: first thing that he said that that stuck out to 33 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: me was regarding it was a question about the problems 34 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: that they're experiencing right now, and his quote was, if 35 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: I was going to rank them a number one our 36 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: turnover race, show is our biggest negative? After four games 37 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: currently they're sitting at negative seven turnover ratio. Is that 38 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: their biggest problem? Nick, let's start with you. I think 39 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: it is. I do. I mean, because that's what leads 40 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: to more possessions, that's what takes the offense off the field, 41 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: and you know, I mean, think about when you when 42 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: you turn the ball over and the other team scores 43 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: when you could have scored. That's a seven. That's a 44 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: ten to fourteen point turnaround. In every game that they played, 45 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: just one turnover a turnaround like that could could have 46 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: affect the game. So yeah, without a dat, I think 47 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: I think it is the biggest problem that they have. Um. 48 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: I get Nick's point in logic and it makes perfect sense, 49 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: but I would say that's not their biggest problem. I 50 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: think that looking at the team overall, I would just 51 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: lean towards the issues that the defense is struggling with 52 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: currently because turnovers, to me, even though they keep struggling 53 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: with it week after week, I feel like that's something 54 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: that has a an easier or faster solution. That's something 55 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: that you can fix faster, in my opinion, versus what's 56 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: happening on the defense that I just I just see 57 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: that such at a such a bigger scale, and it's 58 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: depending on who they're gonna be facing later on through 59 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: the year. I think that's gonna come down to what 60 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: your defense it's unable to do. Dave. It's kind of 61 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: like card problems, right, like your car's not running the 62 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: way you want it to me, and like, it would 63 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: be great if you could take the engine out and 64 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: just do the whole thing over again, go in there 65 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: and really revamp it. Or you can just like turn 66 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: off the parking break and that's not gonna you know, 67 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: it's not gonna fix everything, but you probably be a 68 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: lot better off. My point is to say, the defense 69 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: is just there's a lot of stuff that needs to 70 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: be done there. It is the team's biggest problem. But 71 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: you can help a lot by just holding onto the 72 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: ball like it is. It is the problem that can 73 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: be fixed the easiest and would go a long way 74 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: toward making the defense or at least helping the defense. 75 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: So I agree with Nick because I think fixing the 76 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: turnover problem is something you can actually do. I just 77 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: don't trust that there's a lot you can do to 78 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: make this defense significantly better right now. So I'm gonna 79 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: challenge you, guys, how do you do it? Like that's 80 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: the hard part. Yeah, we all know it's a big problem. 81 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: We all know it needs to be fixed. What do 82 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: you think is their best route to try to fix it? 83 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: To get more turnovers or get more or I mean 84 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: that could be a part of the solution. Hey, if 85 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: you get more turnovers, then giving more turnovers maybe isn't 86 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: as big of a problem, right, I mean the offense 87 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: doesn't need to score. I mean they're scoring enough points. 88 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: I mean generally, yes, now you know they're not to 89 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: be one and three you need more points. But I mean, 90 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: you know, we see we have enough football games to 91 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: know you average thirty one and a half points a game, 92 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: you should be winning and should be winning big. Um. 93 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: So do they need to be as wide open? Do 94 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: they need to help more with the offensive line? Do 95 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: they need a little bit more max protect because they've 96 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: got two or three receivers, three receivers that can get open. 97 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: Maybe they need more of that. Maybe you need your 98 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: your running backs to stay home, Maybe your tied ends 99 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: need to stay home a little bit more, and you know, 100 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: protect the quarterback more because that's typically where the turnovers 101 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: are coming from. There is the pressure. And then on 102 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: the flip side, maybe they need to add more pressure. 103 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: You know, they don't really blitz a lot. Maybe they 104 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: should start doing that a little bit more. I don't know, 105 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: what do you think, Amber, How do they fix this 106 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: problems with the turnovers? With the turnovers established the run 107 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: when when you first of all figure out who your 108 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: offensive linemen are going to be and make that be 109 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: it for the rest of the of the year. Unless 110 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: there is another injury, of course, then you have to 111 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: readjust but going knowing, Okay, these are my start in 112 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: five and this is what it is. Don't don't do 113 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: the whole steel thing again. Okay, once that's settled, hopefully 114 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: you're able to establish the run. I think that the Cowboys, 115 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: yes they Dak is throwing the ball really good. The 116 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: receivers are doing a good job once they're able to 117 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: get the ball going and connecting and all that. But 118 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: I think you need to establish the run first because 119 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: that's gonna just help your defense. Just killed allowed the 120 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: defense to be less on the field as much as 121 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: you can. So just try to score points but using 122 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: and utilize utilizing your running back Zeke that I know 123 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: he has his own struggles, but we've seen him do it, 124 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: so I do have confidence in what he can do 125 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: in the running game. Still, Dave Hodd, you solve the 126 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: turnover problem. Isn't the running game the primary culprit and 127 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: the turnover problem right now? Big part? I mean Zeke 128 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: has fumbled three times this season, and he's lost two 129 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: of them. I mean, overall, I don't disagree with the 130 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,679 Speaker 1: point Amber took the words right out of my mouth. Honestly, 131 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: is my primary hope for fixing the turnover issue is 132 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: continuity on the offensive line. Tyrant is back in the lineup. 133 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: Hopefully he stays there. Tyler Biadas has played one hundred 134 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: and thirty snaps through these last two games, and he's 135 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: played well, so hopefully that can help the interior. And 136 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: hopefully the coaches are what's the word I'm looking for, 137 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: humble enough to admit that they were wrong about this 138 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: right tackle thing. Hopefully the way Brandon Knight has played 139 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: when he's gotten in there has proven to them that 140 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: he should be the guy in my opinion, and hopefully 141 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: they can go forward with these five and have that 142 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: clean things up a little bit. To be clear, when 143 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: I said fix the turnover issue, I simply meant on offense, 144 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: like defense, prove it to me that you can get takeaways. 145 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how you fix that without getting better players, honestly, 146 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: because this is a four year stretch where that's just 147 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: been the case. So I can't bank on the defense 148 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: getting men overs. I just have to I need the 149 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: offense to clean it up. I think continuity on the 150 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: offensive line would would go a long way toward helping. 151 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: What do we think the offensive line looks like? I mean, 152 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: Looney's out for two to four weeks, but I'm not sure, 153 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: be honest, wouldn't be the starter anyways, But they don't 154 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: have to make that call right now. What are we thinking, Tyrn, Connor, 155 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: be honest, Zach Night. I think that's what they're gonna 156 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: go with. I think that's definitely what they're gonna go with. Yeah, 157 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,119 Speaker 1: I mean, unless unless they want to unless they feel 158 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: like Connor McGovern or, somebody could play guard better than 159 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: than Connor Williams. Then no, well that's true too, Yeah, 160 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: better than Connor Williams. But I'm saying, maybe you know, 161 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: they wanted Brandon Knight, I think, to be a guard anyways. 162 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: Maybe he's a better guard than Zach Martin's a better 163 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: right tackle. Yeah, I think that's what considering. All right, 164 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: let's move on to what other things you want to? 165 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: Go ahead, go ahead, Dave, No, I just it's it's possible. 166 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: I think I continue to think that they're going to 167 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: do the thing that requires the least amount of movement, Like, 168 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: I think they want as much continuity as possible and 169 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: just plugging Night in that right tackle allows everybody else 170 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: to stay where they are. Yeah, but sure it's possible. 171 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: To Nick's point about, well, one thing good, Amber, I 172 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: was gonna say, one thing that at least they've proven 173 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: is that they're not afraid to just shuffle people around. 174 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: So you can look that as a positive as to Okay, 175 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: maybe they will be willing to just kind of shuffle 176 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: people around and make some changes. Now, hopefully that's not 177 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: something that just happens during the middle of the game, 178 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: but rather something that you plan throughout the week and 179 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: kind of go that route and stick to it. Yeah. 180 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: You know, that's an interesting point, Amber, because I don't 181 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 1: think that's something we've been used to seeing around here, 182 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: is in the middle of games then making a decision. 183 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: And by the way, just as I'm giving them credit 184 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: for that, I'm also going to say they probably should 185 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: have made that distinction before the game. I think Dave 186 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: made the point. Yes, if they were so willing to 187 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: as soon as they made a mistake rip them out 188 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: and put the other guy in, then they probably knew 189 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: that was a problem going into the game. They probably 190 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: should have gone in that way, is the way I 191 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: look at it. Right. But you know, one of the 192 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: complaints people always say, it's it's like the coach needs 193 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: to hold them accountable. They didn't hold these guys accountable. Well, 194 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: do what I mean, Benjam? Yeah, because that's what they do. 195 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no detention in the NFL. I mean, 196 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: what do you what do you do to these guys? 197 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: I mean, they're not running laps. Maybe they do, but 198 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: I'm just saying maybe they should, Maybe maybe they should. 199 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, how do you hold a guy accountable? Well, you, 200 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,599 Speaker 1: Benjam in front of everybody, and that's that's kind of 201 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: what they've done. They're not afraid to do that. Yeah. 202 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: I will make this point real quick before we move 203 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: on to the next topic. Nick, you mentioned the number 204 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: of points that they're scoring should have them in the 205 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: winner's column a lot more than they are. Think about this. 206 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to read for you the teams that are 207 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: in the top ten right now and scoring in the NFL, 208 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: and see if you see a pattern here. The Green 209 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: Bay Packers, number one, Seattle Seahawks, number two, Dallas is 210 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: number three, Cleveland Brown's number four, Buffalo Bills, number five, 211 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: New Orleans Sayings, number six, Baltimore Ravens, number seven, number 212 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: eight is Tampa Bay Buccaneers, number nine Kansas City Chiefs, 213 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: and number ten Las Vegas Raiders. The interesting part about 214 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: that at the top ten, I think that's probably most 215 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: of the best teams in the league. Those are the 216 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: teams I would guess right now the Super Bowl winner 217 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: is going to come out of that group. It's amazing 218 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 1: that the Cowboys, I guess. The point is, it is 219 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: amazing the Cowboys are scoring with those teams, yet their 220 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: results are so much different. That tells you just how 221 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: bad they're struggling on the defensive side of the ball 222 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: right now. I think, all right, let's mother is the 223 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: next topic. He was asked to Mike Nolan and speaking 224 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: of that defense, and his quote was, and we're talking 225 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: about Mike McCarthy's quote yesterday was yas very high confidence 226 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: in Mike Nolan. We're going to stay the course. My 227 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: question for you guys is do you agree that you 228 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: need to stay the course here or should they be 229 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: looking at other options? Are there other options that they 230 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: could consider at this point? Let's start first with you, 231 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: Dave H. I mean, you know, fans are gonna say 232 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: stuff like that after a game like that. I it, No, 233 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't feel like they need to make 234 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: a move like that right now. The season hasn't gotten 235 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: away from him. And again, this is a new coaching staff, 236 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: a brand new slate coming in. You know, the Texans 237 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: fired Bill O'Brien yesterday. That's first of all their winless 238 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: I know one in three and O and four is 239 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: not a huge difference, but also Bill O'Brien has a 240 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 1: laundry list of things that he's done wrong that led 241 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: to that decision for seven years, whereas well, yeah, absolutely, 242 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: so this is this is a clean slate now. I 243 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: don't think that's out of the realm of possibility. If 244 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: things really go south and it looks like this team 245 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: really won't be able to contend for a playoff spot, 246 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: I think I don't remember who made the point, but 247 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: George Edwards, a former longtime defensive coordinators already on this staff. 248 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: So I don't want to say that it's impossible, especially 249 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: if it really, like I said, if it really gets 250 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: out of hand, but the division sucks, you're still in 251 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: the mix, and this is a brand new staff, Like 252 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: I never really thought that was a realistic thing to 253 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: do after four games. Amber by saying to stay the course, 254 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: that's strictly talking about coaching specifically. Yeah, he was saying it. 255 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: He said it in regards to the question about Mike Nolan. 256 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: So my assumption is he's talking about we're gonna stay 257 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: the course with Mike Nolan, right specifically. Okay, Yeah, I 258 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: didn't know if that was if that man like, we're 259 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: just gonna stay with why we kind of have right now, 260 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: including players. But okay, when you talk about coaching specifically, 261 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: I think, yes, it's a little unfair to kind of 262 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: rush that quickly after four game when it's a new 263 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: coaching staff and you guy, guys just kind of trying 264 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: to connect everything together and build off something new basically, 265 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: but at the same time, there has to be some 266 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: kind of shake up. So I don't know what that 267 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: would mean behind doors. I don't know what you tell 268 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: or how they they communicate certain things, but I would 269 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: be saying someone explicit words in those meetings and being like, okay, 270 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: you you you need to kind of step it up 271 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: because even though we're new at this here in Dallas. 272 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: We're not gonna wait until the end of the season. 273 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: Like I think that there's a certain point where I 274 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: don't know. Honestly, here's what I'm struggling with. I'm just 275 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: tired of waiting year after year after year. So my 276 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: patience right now is very low. So I just I'm 277 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: at a point where, yes, I have to consider he's 278 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: new here in Dallas, but at the same time, just 279 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: in Dallas overall period, I'm just tired of excuses and waiting. 280 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: So I don't know what to tell you. She just 281 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: sums right now. Nick, I just I mean, I just 282 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: it's frustrating because I'm sitting over here with with you, 283 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: and like this is our twenty second year of doing 284 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: this and I think I don't know, and five or 285 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: six maybe six years She's s's yeah, and it's like 286 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: we should get I don't know how you guys have this. 287 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: We're so long honestly, two thousand and one, oh yeah, 288 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: two thousand But anyways, um, I think she's right on 289 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: that you better do something. I mean, stayed the course 290 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: might have been the answer to the personnel move, and 291 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: I I agree with that because you know this, this 292 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: has been a different year. I think. I think, um, 293 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: for everybody, they should have a little bit more patience 294 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: with all coaches, all sports, all jobs. Really, I mean 295 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: this is just different. You don't judge what you just 296 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: see right here. Now, you gotta get this thing fixed quickly. 297 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: So um, they talked about multiple schemes they could play. 298 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: That's what we love about this thing. We can do 299 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: different things. Well, maybe you shouldn't. Maybe you should you 300 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: stick to one or two things that you really do well. Yeah, 301 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: this whole you know, wide open stuff. Nobody's you know, 302 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: figuring it out. Maybe they're not a three fourth team 303 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: you know at all. Maybe they're four three maybe whatever. 304 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: Do whatever they need to do, just you know, hone 305 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: in on a couple of things that they do well. 306 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: And if that means simplifying it, oh, oh well, because 307 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty you know there where they averaging points 308 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: against them thirty eight. I don't even know. It's it's 309 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. It's a lot, it's a lot. All right, 310 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna take our first break when we come back. 311 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: There's this word that kept coming up yesterday that I 312 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: want to talk about. And this word is effort. And 313 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: I want to see what you guys think about this 314 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: word effort and how it relates to this team. We'll 315 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: do that when we come right back. This is Dallas 316 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com Radio. We're back in a tasty treat 317 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: that's sweeping airwaves and taste buds. It's new Doctor Pepper 318 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: and Cream Soda. 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Well, it's gonna 355 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: call Nick the impler. But then he just came out 356 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: and gave the joke away, right, He was not implying there. 357 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: It was very It was I gotta work to the 358 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: point I work with Bucky Moore, you know what I mean, 359 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: Like like I try to joke with Bucky and it 360 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: just doesn't He doesn't. He doesn't get it all the time. 361 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to do comes on. I want to 362 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: tell him. I'm like, Bucky, can we get a bigger 363 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: microphone for you? Have you seen that microphone? Got a microphone? Yeah? 364 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: I was like, but whatever, Well, here's what we're doing. 365 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: We're going through some of the comments that the coaches 366 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: made yesterday they had their their time with media, and 367 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,479 Speaker 1: that was a comment and actually I'm going to get 368 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: into two different things. There was first to comment from 369 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: coach McCarthy that I want to talk about now, and 370 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: then we'll get into a comment to coach Nolan made 371 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: after that. But the basically when he was talking, he 372 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: was asked about the effort of the team. Coach McCarthy 373 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: was and he said that he doesn't really see effort 374 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: as a problem and he would cause you others to 375 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: be careful when questioning the effort of professional athletes from 376 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: the outside. So my question for you guys is, and 377 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: I assume most of you, you know, obviously we all 378 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: watched the game live. I assume most of us have 379 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: gone back and rewatched it. What is your thought with 380 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: regards to the effort, particularly of the defense in that game. 381 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: Do you think it's an issue of effort or do 382 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: you do you think it's an issue of skill. Let's 383 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: start first with you amber certain positions. Yeah, with certain 384 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: players there there's a lack of skill and just being 385 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: at that level that you would want them to be, 386 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: and a lack of experience as well. But when you 387 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: talk about the word effort, which has been going around 388 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: all over the place on social media and many media 389 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: outlets out there, I always tend to be really careful 390 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: as well, because you don't know, you never know exactly 391 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: what the person is physically dealing with to where maybe 392 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: that is their maximum effort and it's just not being 393 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: to the level that you personally want them to be at. 394 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: But when you look at the defense overall and just 395 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: watch the game, there's just there's just fire missing just overall. 396 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: It's just unusual. Even when they miss a tackle, when 397 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: they get up, it's like the whole like shoulders going 398 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: like this, like I miss that. There's not like I'm 399 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: lacking that that passion, that anger that like man, I'm 400 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: pissed off right now, I'm gonna get back up. I'm 401 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: gonna go back and do this better. It's just so. 402 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: I guess you could call that tighten with effort, but 403 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: rather than effort, I would use a lack of a fire, 404 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: lack of just that competitiveness that you usually see within 405 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: football players. All Right, Dave, I'll very candidly, yeah, I've 406 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: I've learned that lesson. The hard way of doing this 407 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: job is it's easy to forget that the worst player 408 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL works really, really hard twelve months out 409 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: of the year to be able to do this job. 410 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: And on top of that, they're all playing with some 411 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: sort of pain bothering them, and they all are playing 412 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: with the knowledge that the next rep could end their 413 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: career and significantly change their life, So I always try 414 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: to be very careful not to say that that somebody's 415 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: not trying, And for the most part, I think that's fair. 416 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: Looking back at that tape, what it brings me back 417 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: around to is Mike McCarthy and Jerry Jones have both 418 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: said in the last twenty four hours that players have 419 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: to trust the scheme and not revert back to the 420 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: old way of doing things when things go wrong. And 421 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: the reason I bring that up is in the sense that, like, 422 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: there were eleven guys on the field running hard for 423 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: most of that game. Sure, but it was completely uncoordinated 424 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: and not working together the way that a successful defense does. 425 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: So it's cool that you sprinted, but if you're not 426 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: hitting your assignment and doing what you're supposed to do, 427 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: it looks terrible. So individual effort is great, but it's 428 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: got there's gotta be more of a concerted effort to 429 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: work together, or we're going to see more of that 430 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: as the season goes along. If I had to guess, Nick, yeah, 431 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: and I think you know where I'm going with this. 432 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: We talked about this a lot. You know I've made 433 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: this point. I mean, effort is you can go to 434 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: any YMCA at ten o'clock in the morning and watch 435 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: a pickup game of old basketball men playing basketball and 436 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: see that they get into it. They care, they want 437 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: to you know that there's pride on the line there. 438 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: So effort is always there on the field. I think 439 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: I really believe effort is there ninety nine percent of 440 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: the time. But his effort there. On Wednesday night, when 441 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: you're going home and you have your iPad and you 442 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: could watch the Browns a couple more plays of them, 443 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: you could figure things out. You could see the tackle 444 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: that you're facing in the tendencies and all that kind 445 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: of stuff, you know, like I think Sean Lee does that. 446 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: I think he's probably the best that's ever done. It 447 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: is the effort there to prepare, like Dave's talking about. That, 448 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: is that effort there, because, yeah, Jalen Smith is gonna 449 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: be running all the way down the field to try 450 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: to tackle Odell Beckham. He can't get him, but he's 451 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: gonna try his best. He's gonna They're all gonna do 452 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: the effort. But are they really putting in the effort 453 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: to prepare like you're supposed to, especially in this weird 454 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: year of pandemic where you didn't have the same installation 455 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: issues or installation time and OTAs and all that. You 456 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: gotta be extra prepared. That's effort. And I don't know 457 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: if I don't know if a lot of players in 458 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: the league, not just boys. I'm just saying that's where 459 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: I think teams can lose sometimes when they say we 460 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: give up, they quit. They didn't quit when it comes 461 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: to playing when the lights came on, they quit when 462 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: the preparation time was Yeah, you know, I'll actually throw 463 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: out a different word that I think applies here, and 464 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: I think it's unsure. I think what you've seen people 465 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: like Troy Aikman and our own Bucky Brooks, Emanuelato, they 466 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: all have put out different statements saying, hey, effort is 467 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: a problem with this team. These guys are not going 468 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: all in. What I think I'm saying it is not 469 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: necessarily them not going all in. I think what I'm 470 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: seeing is that they're unsure. I don't think, and it 471 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: goes back to scheme. It goes back to everybody understanding 472 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: their role, everybody understanding their job, and everybody being willing 473 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: to do their job. I think that's probably more what 474 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: you're seeing. Because I agree with you, Nick I don't 475 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: think professional athletes loaf. That's a way to get hurt 476 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: in the NFL. But I do think that when you're unsure, 477 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: you're probably a little more pensive. You're probably a little 478 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: more like, I don't I don't know if I should 479 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: go here, let me let me oh, maybe I should 480 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: do so in a little different And that put you 481 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: a step behind, and that makes you slow to react, 482 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: and it makes you slow to get to the point, 483 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: and so it looks like you're kind of just playing slow. 484 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: But you're not playing slow because of lack of effort. 485 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: You're playing slow because you're unsure. In my opinion, I 486 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: think that's what's happening a lot with this defense. Ourselves 487 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: had a sign in the locker room that said, exactly 488 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: what you just said. Knowledge is confidence, and confidence lets 489 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: you play fast, and that's probably what you're saying. They 490 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: don't have that knowledge. It's not giving them confidence and 491 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: therefore their unsure and what they're doing. Yep. And again, 492 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: I think that's probably a bigger issue for this defense 493 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: right now than just saying they don't have the effort 494 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: that they need. But let's go on with that same topic. 495 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: Mike Nolan, he was go ahead, Amber, I was just 496 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: gonna ask, Okay, So let's say we assume that's the case. 497 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 1: Then do you put them more on the players themselves 498 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: just not taking the extra time going home and studying 499 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: and doing what they need to do, or does that 500 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: fall more onto again, the coaching staff and then maybe 501 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: not necessarily teaching the things that they need to be 502 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: teaching them. I think, if I had to guess, I 503 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: would say it's probably a little bit of both. I 504 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: think in one instance, as Nick said earlier, you got 505 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: a very very unique set of circumstances this year. I 506 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: think it's probably unrealistic for a coaching staff to come 507 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: in and say, hey, guys, we're about to do all 508 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: this new exotic stuff, but we're not going to have 509 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: as much practice time. I think that maybe they need 510 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: to step back a little bit. And by the way, 511 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: we always talk about it like football's rocket science, it's 512 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: really not like it's not really rocket science. But if 513 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: you've got let's say, for example, in one instance, you've 514 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: got one read and you react to that one read 515 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: and do something, as opposed to another situation where maybe 516 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: you've got three different things you need to key on 517 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: and that's when you can make your move. It's gonna 518 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: take you longer to process, and it's gonna take you 519 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: time of doing that repeatedly to get the muscle memory 520 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: to know bam, bam, bam. These three things happen. So 521 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 1: I'm doing this right, And so I think that when 522 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: you're when you're talking about them adjusting to this new 523 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: scheme and the complexity of it. I don't know again 524 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: what all those keys are that they're giving these guys. 525 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: It does appear to me that they have a lot 526 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: more to think about because I do think they're playing slow, 527 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: and so I think that's partially on the coaches. They 528 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: may need to simplify this thing a little bit, and 529 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: I do think it's partially on the players. They're gonna 530 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: have to pick it up a little faster. This is 531 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: these are unique times, so it requires them to be 532 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: better than they would have been otherwise. So they got 533 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: to step up. They got to be even more intent 534 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: on studying even harder and really being able to focus 535 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: in because the muscle memory just doesn't there yet. They 536 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: have not had enough reps for the muscle memory to 537 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: be there yet. What do you guys think? I guess 538 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: you all agree. I think it just left me wondering 539 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: it just I was thinking of what other teams around 540 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: the NFL are going through a similar situation where specifically 541 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: is talking about the defense. Do they have a defensive court, 542 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: a new defensive coordinator, and how are their defense as 543 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: a performing given the circumstances that we've all had to 544 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: live this year with no preseason games, you know, a 545 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: shorter offseason, practices and things like that. So I don't 546 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys would know a lot better than 547 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: me as far as two opposing teams and if they're 548 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: facing similar struggles as the Cowboys are right now. I 549 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: understand all of that. No, no, go ahead, Dave, But 550 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: I just add, you know to I'm gonna steal Amber's line, 551 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: like I'm tired of hearing about how they didn't have 552 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: a preseason or any of that stuff, because nobody else 553 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: did either. I think the Patriots had half of their 554 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: defense opt out, and this isn't happening to them. So 555 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: I get it. It's tough and it's adverse circumstances. I 556 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: do agree. I just the reason I sort of blanked 557 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: back there is because it's such a chicken or the 558 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: egg I mean, it's it's hard to know that. But again, 559 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: if members of the front office are saying they need 560 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: the players to trust the scheme, then I assume that 561 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: means the players aren't buying into what the coaches are selling, 562 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: So the players either need to pick that up, or 563 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: if this keeps up, the coaches need to be willing 564 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: to say, all right, we're gonna pare this down because 565 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: what we want y'all to do just isn't working and 566 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: we need to adapt on the fly. It's got to 567 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: be one of those two, like a better buy in 568 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: by the players or the coaches being willing to say, 569 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 1: let's put this on the shelf until we can actually 570 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: have an offseason in a training camp. Yep, yep. And 571 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: I agree with you, Dave, I don't. I don't think. 572 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: And all that said was not for the purposes of 573 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: giving excuses as much as it was to say, sometimes 574 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: the coaches have to know my players are trying as 575 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: hard as they can and for whatever reason, it's not working. 576 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: So maybe I need to change my strategy, which means 577 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: I may need to scale things back in order to 578 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: give them the best opportunity to succeed. Right, all right, 579 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: let's go on to the next topic, Mike Nolan. Actually, 580 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: let's take our final break. When we come back, I 581 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: do want to talk about Mike Nolan. 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We're talking 626 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: about a lot of things that the coaches had to 627 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: say yesterday. We've been talking about this word effort, and 628 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: Coach Nolan was speaking about Jalen Smith yesterday and his 629 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: quote was, I think he's doing all things were asking 630 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: of him, or at least trying to do them, and 631 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: said they and went on to say that he doesn't 632 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: understand all of the criticism that Jalen seems to get. 633 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: My personal opinion is part of this because a lot 634 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: of that criticism comes from the contract as well. There 635 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: are heightened expectations with that amount of money. But that 636 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: all being said, He also went on to talk about 637 00:33:54,280 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: how they great defenders, particularly in three categories. It's either 638 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: a winning effort, a losing effort, or you just did 639 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: your job. And he said that he doesn't think Jalen 640 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: has had a losing effort in either of the four 641 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: games he's he said, he's he's did his job or 642 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: a little bit better every week. So understanding, and I 643 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: understand the coaches will always or most often will defend 644 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: their players publicly. But do you think that the quote 645 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: that he said he's doing all the things we're asking 646 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: him to do and here's the important part, or at 647 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: least trying to do them, signals that he's happy with 648 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: his effort and not necessarily the results. Nicholas Starr with you, Uh, yeah, 649 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot to digest there. I mean, I still 650 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 1: keep going back to the I don't like the grading system. 651 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: That's just it just three grades. I mean, this is 652 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: this isn't it's not. Football is a little bit more 653 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: complex than that. I think that like you did your 654 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: job or what is it winning effort, winning effort, losing 655 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: effort or did your job? So basically, well, the way 656 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: I look at that is, if you want to make 657 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: it simple, it is you were really good, you just passed, 658 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: or you were bad, Like those are the three options 659 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: and basically he just passed or maybe a little bit better. Yeah, right. 660 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 1: Week is the way I tell you, I'm not with 661 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: you guys as much on the Jalen Smith like just 662 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: saying he's awful, he's terrible, Like I don't. I mean, 663 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you guys are saying that if you 664 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: can say it, if you want to, But I just 665 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm not as on that train as much as everyone else, 666 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: mainly because I look behind him and I'm like, I 667 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: don't see anybody better than that. But I don't think 668 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 1: anybody on the defense has played well. And it starts 669 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: in the middle. That's usually where you know, this whole 670 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: thing starts. And he hasn't played great, and he hasn't 671 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 1: been that dynamic player that we wanted him to be. 672 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: We thought he was gonna be a couple of years 673 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,959 Speaker 1: ago and so, and he makes a lot of money 674 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: and so therefore he's going to get the target just 675 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: like the other guy that makes a lot of money 676 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: that hasn't done anything. Amber. I get why Mike Nolan 677 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: has to speak that way. I get it, but at 678 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: the same time, I just it makes me wonder, like 679 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: do they give these grades based on like comparison to 680 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: everyone else on defense, or strictly and specifically to the 681 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: player without trying to evaluate everyone else on defense. Because 682 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: to me, yes, Jalen might be doing the better job 683 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: as opposed to everyone else on defense, but the bar 684 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: is just set so low right now, like he's not. 685 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: To me, he has had better seasons, better years where 686 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 1: he's played better, and maybe because I've seen certain games 687 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: the level that he can play at. When I compare 688 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 1: that to where he's at right now, it's just very different. 689 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: So I just see it as like I don't like 690 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: the grading system. I just think the expectation, the evaluation 691 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: right now is just very low because of the way 692 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: that the defense it's performing overall, Dave, I gained a 693 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: lot of respect for Mike Nolan yesterday, if you want 694 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 1: me to be honest with you, because I thought he 695 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: showed that he's willing to jump on a grenade. Is 696 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: basically what he did in my opinion, um, because I 697 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: can't I can't bring myself to believe that he actually 698 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: means most of that. Um And and it's it's not 699 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: to dog on Jalen unnecessarily, but he's He's getting it 700 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: from every angle he like, the media is on him, 701 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: the fans are on him so bad, like don't search 702 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: Jalen's name on Twitter, it's bad um and and so 703 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: like the coach. The coach can't do that, Like, you know, 704 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: he's he's a talented player. If the defense is going 705 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: to be better, he's gonna need to be part of it. 706 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: So if Mike Nolan comes out and jumps on top 707 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 1: of him too, you run the risk of him checking 708 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: out or him getting pissed off. So I admire that 709 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: Mike Nolan was willing to do it, but some of 710 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: the stuff that he said at face value, Again, I 711 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: get why he said it, but I mean, come on, 712 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: I mean, twelve million dollars a year, we give him 713 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: a did his job or slightly better grade all four 714 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: weeks and that's good enough. It's not. There's no way, 715 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: And salary is a big part of it. Nobody's mad 716 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: at Joe Thomas because Joe Thomas signed a one year, 717 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: one million dollar deal to come in and be the 718 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: fourth guy. He is playing up to the standard that 719 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: you expected of him. Jaalen Smith is on a sixty 720 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 1: eight million dollar extension and is not playing like it. 721 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: If you are making that much money, you should be 722 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: able to lift the lesser components of this defense, or 723 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: at least in theory. So to say that did your 724 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 1: job is good enough or well, he's not making the plays, 725 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 1: but he's trying on all of them also not good enough. 726 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: It's just not And like again, I don't say that 727 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: to be a jerk to Jalen Smith. He's always been 728 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,280 Speaker 1: a very nice guy and he's got a great story, 729 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: like everybody wants him to succeed. But you gotta call 730 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,359 Speaker 1: it what it is. A guy making that much money 731 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: trying or doing his job like that's not good enough 732 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: for the money that's involved. It just is what it is. Yeah, 733 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: when you look at it, I think the thing is 734 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: on both the offensive and defensive side of the ball, 735 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: you need it. You got to have a lot of 736 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: players that do their job right. But in order to 737 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: be successful, you're gonna have to have a few guys 738 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball that can play above 739 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,919 Speaker 1: that right. And if you don't have, like if Dak 740 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 1: doesn't play above that, this team has no shot. If 741 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: Zeke or Maury don't play above that, this team has 742 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: no shot. You can't just everybody can't just do their job, 743 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: because in this NFL, playmakers are how you actually win games. 744 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,879 Speaker 1: You meet those guys that are extraordinary. You've never seen 745 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: a team with no extraordinary players win anything, right, So 746 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: you gotta have some guys that do it. And so 747 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: when you pay him at twelve million dollars a year contract, 748 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: the expectations you're paying that because you expect him to 749 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: be one of those players. So this does not in 750 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: any way mean that Jalen Smith is not doing his job. 751 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: The question is is Jalen Smith doing the job he's 752 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: being paid for, not the job that you're just saying, Well, 753 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: this is this assignment. He's being paid to be one 754 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: of those extraordinary guys, and right now he's just not 755 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: giving that to this team. Yeah, I mean, because you're right, 756 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: I guess. But Dave, sorry, so I didn't even listen 757 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: to what y'all told him to do. I'm sorry. I 758 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 1: was just going to make the point that if all 759 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,280 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott was doing through one month of the season 760 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 1: was doing his job, it would be the only thing 761 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: that all of the talking head shows would be talking 762 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: about about whether or not he's trash. What the Cowboys 763 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 1: are gonna do next? Is he worth that kind of money? 764 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: But he's not. He's playing like a badass because that 765 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: is what the franchise tag requires of him. And the 766 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: same goes for a lot of the other guys that 767 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: are on big contracts. Not all of them, but a 768 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: lot of them. I mean, it is what it is 769 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,760 Speaker 1: like that goes with the territory of having a paycheck 770 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 1: for eight hundred thousand dollars hit your bank account every Tuesday, 771 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: is that you are held to a very high standard 772 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: and the season's probably not going to be very fun 773 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: for you if you don't live up to it. Yeah, 774 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: because I think that that Derek, you guys are both 775 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: making the same point about you might be doing your job, 776 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: but but you know what's what's asked of you, Like 777 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,720 Speaker 1: are you really are you really doing worth the contract? 778 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: Is your contract? Should should you be having a different job? 779 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,799 Speaker 1: Think about Zach Martin. Is Zach Martin doing his job? Yeah? 780 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: Is Is he he's meeting expectations? Is he above expectations? 781 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: Not really, because our expectations of him or is to 782 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: be an all pro? So I don't think his agent's 783 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: gonna be calling the Cowboys saying I need to get 784 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: a raise because he's you know, he's meeting his expectations. 785 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't know if that's necessarily 786 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 1: a bad thing to say he's doing his job because 787 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 1: his job is to be the best guard in football 788 00:41:54,920 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 1: and he's doing it. But what's Jalen Smith's job is it? 789 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,240 Speaker 1: Is it to be the captain, the leader of this defense. 790 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: I think that's his job and he's not doing that, 791 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 1: So I don't I don't think he really is. I 792 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 1: don't think that it's fair for them to say he's 793 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: doing his job and really well. And I'll ask I'll 794 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: ask David Amber this too, because they know the media 795 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: people and are in Dallas and even national media. If 796 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 1: Mike Nolan said, you know, Jaylen Smith is is like 797 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 1: like anybody on this defense. He could play better. He 798 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 1: knows it. We've talked about it. He knows he could 799 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: play better. He told me he could play better. So 800 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: we know that we got to get him in a 801 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: situation where he can do better and do and you 802 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: can say it that way, and therefore then no one's saying, well, man, 803 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: he's really throwing him under the bus. He's if Jalen 804 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: knows he can play better, and everyone knows that, then 805 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,919 Speaker 1: let's it's our job to get him to play better. 806 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: So then the question becomes, can he really play better? 807 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,439 Speaker 1: Because one thing I heard from and Jerry was talking 808 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 1: on the fan this morning talking about Jalen and the 809 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: word that he used, I want to say it was 810 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: heroic or it was more around the idea courageous. That's 811 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: what it was. Courageous. That's how he defined his play. 812 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: And again, all these words are painting the picture in 813 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,399 Speaker 1: my mind, effort, courageous. What they're saying to me as 814 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: just a personal person that's just listening to this is 815 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: Jalen is doing the very best he can with what's 816 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: been presented to him and the condition that he's in. 817 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: He's doing the very best. He's giving us everything he 818 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: possibly As he leaves every game with nothing left to give, 819 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 1: then the question becomes is that good enough enough? See? 820 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think they believe that he's 821 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: dogging it. I don't think they believe he's not playing 822 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: up to his potential. I think they believe he's giving 823 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: them everything he's got. And that's when I start to question, Okay, well, 824 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 1: if that's everything he's got, is that good enough? Because 825 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: right now I can't see an appreciable difference between him 826 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: at twelve million and Joe Thomas at one million. So 827 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 1: it you know, how do you how do you rectify 828 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 1: that according to your salary cap at the end of 829 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:03,760 Speaker 1: the day. Yeah, I mean, I don't know who sings 830 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 1: it old eighty song James Ingram, Maybe he's like, I 831 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: did my best, but I guess my best. Yeah, I 832 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: don't know who things it might be Jane Okay, I'm sorry, 833 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: good Dave. I mean I've said it all offseason, Like 834 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: I think Jalen Smith, like he needs to be blitzing 835 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: more if you can try to use him as a rusher, 836 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,919 Speaker 1: like I think there is a role there he needs 837 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 1: to be moving toward the quarterback or and again, this 838 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: is not really something that you can fix right now, 839 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,240 Speaker 1: at least I don't think so is Like you need bigger, 840 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 1: better defensive tackles that can keep blockers off of him, 841 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,280 Speaker 1: because shedding blocks, in my opinion, is his biggest problem. 842 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 1: Like he cannot get a blocker off of him, and 843 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 1: you wind up seeing him lunging at guys while a 844 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 1: guard pushes him out of the way. If you can 845 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: free him up to where all he's got to worry 846 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,399 Speaker 1: about is hitting the guy, I think he'd probably would 847 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 1: be pretty good, but we just haven't seen that in 848 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 1: a couple of years. And I think some of that 849 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 1: is the play of the guys in front of him. 850 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: But so, yeah, he's either got to get better at 851 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 1: shedding blocks or they've got to get linemen who can 852 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 1: keep those blockers from getting to him one or the other. Yeah, 853 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 1: that's a great point, because I do also think that 854 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: maybe some of that is about the fact that they 855 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 1: expected Layton Vander should be playing the role of the 856 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: middle linebacker and him to be playing week side linebacker, 857 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 1: which may afread him up to do a little bit 858 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 1: more of those things. And right now, again going back 859 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 1: to that, you know, he's giving the best effort he 860 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: possibly can and him saying he's playing courageously, maybe that's 861 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 1: about the fact that he's making the best of what 862 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: he wasn't really supposed to be doing, right, and they're 863 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 1: giving him a little bit of difference knowing that that 864 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,320 Speaker 1: wasn't what his role was supposed to be in this defense. 865 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 1: But he's doing the very best he can do. Under 866 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: those circumstances, and I can get with that. I understand 867 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: that there you get things thrown at you. You gotta adjust, 868 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 1: you gotta do your best. That's not the best fit 869 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 1: for him, but that's what he has to do right now. 870 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: So I can kind of understand that. Did you have 871 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: something you're gonna say? Amber? You know, I just see 872 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 1: it as like the Cowboys are in this position. They 873 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: knew this could happen. That's how I see it. You 874 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 1: knew this could happen. You knew Sean Lee what he 875 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 1: struggles with every year. You knew the possibility of him 876 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: not being able to participate in one way or another 877 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 1: this season. Then you get Shan the out. Okay, that happened. 878 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 1: You knew Layton Vanderesh was dealing with the whole neck issue. 879 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 1: That's always a possibility as well. Obviously it happened again 880 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 1: his out. You knew Jayleen Smith. He I mean, last 881 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 1: year he had great moments, but at the same time, 882 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 1: to me, based on what I can remember right now, 883 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: he wasn't necessarily being the best that I think he 884 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,240 Speaker 1: could be. There were things that he was still lacking 885 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 1: in as far as his game and his ability on 886 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: the field, and yet you decide to go ahead and 887 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 1: extend his contract. So when you look at the group 888 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: of linebackers, you you come down hoping that you can 889 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 1: really rely everything on Jayalen Smith given the fact of 890 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 1: all the other guys and their injuries and things like that. 891 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: So you're in this situation and if that's the best 892 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 1: that he can do, then you should have known that, Like, 893 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,879 Speaker 1: this should not be a surprise. You should have known better, 894 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: and you should not have been in this situation to 895 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 1: begin with because you had time to kind of prepare 896 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 1: and be aware of certain things. Yeah, you brought in 897 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 1: a few linebackers and it hasn't necessarily worked out the way. 898 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: You can't expect every single position to have a great 899 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 1: depth and talent. But at the same time, it's just 900 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: like this should not be a full surprise to anyone. 901 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 1: You know, they should have prepared better and know that 902 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 1: this could have been a possibility of happening. Yeah, I 903 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 1: will say this, like, going into the season, I thought 904 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: this was going to be a position of strength for them, 905 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 1: because if you got Joe Thomas as your fourth best linebacker, 906 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 1: you feel really good about that. But you make some 907 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 1: great points there, Amber because all those top three guys 908 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: had question marks coming in, and although I think they 909 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 1: all can be at their very best, really really good linebackers, 910 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: I don't know that you could necessarily rely on either 911 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 1: of the three of them. And we've seen that kind 912 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 1: of play out here. It's very and I know, I 913 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: know we gotta go, but you can take it back 914 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 1: to the draft. It's it's funny because you know, they 915 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 1: talk to Kenneth Murray from Oklahoma, they talk to Patrick 916 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 1: Queen from LSU, who's leading the league in tackles among 917 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 1: rookies right now, by the way, and the thought process, 918 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: and I'll like, I'll own it, and I still feel 919 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 1: fine about it. I said, I I understand that that 920 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: is something you need to look at. But between the 921 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,879 Speaker 1: four that you have, you gotta hope that they can 922 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: give you enough, or that the coaches can help them 923 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,399 Speaker 1: give you enough, because this team has too many other 924 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: needs to be drafting a linebacker and lo and behold, 925 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 1: it's basically a worst case scenario between not getting what 926 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 1: you need from Jalen and not having Leyton or Seawan. 927 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 1: And it makes you wonder what the future of that 928 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 1: position looks like because I don't I don't think you 929 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 1: can afford to ignore it in twenty twenty one, that's 930 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,840 Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, and it's interesting, Dave. I'll give you 931 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: guys one more gut punch here before we end the show. 932 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 1: You mentioned those young linebackers that they talked to right now, 933 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 1: According to Pro Football Focus, which again we always put 934 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: in context, but they are grading everybody on the same 935 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 1: curve right now, Jalen is ranked somewhere in the fifties 936 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 1: as far as linebackers in the NFL. Number one Miles 937 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,759 Speaker 1: Jack the guy that the Cowboys opted to go with 938 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,879 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith over Miles Jack. So take that for whatever 939 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 1: you do, take that for whatever you want it to be. 940 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 1: But but that's that's the other gut punch right now. 941 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 1: I think for a lot of Cowboys fans is they're 942 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,319 Speaker 1: looking at that kind of stuff, and they're looking at 943 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 1: really what they thought Jalen could become and really what 944 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 1: he was in twenty eighteen, and I think people are 945 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 1: just feeling like there's there's there's a lot missing from 946 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 1: where they thought he was going after that twenty eighteen season. 947 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 1: All Right, we appreciate you guys joining us. We were 948 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,399 Speaker 1: back tomorrow. We're gonna have Bucky Brooks join us. We're 949 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 1: gonna start looking forward to the New York Giant. That 950 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 1: should be an interesting week. Cowboys will take on the 951 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 1: Giants this Sunday. Bucky will tell us about the Giants 952 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 1: offense versus the Dallas defense. Till then for Nick even 953 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: Dave Helmet, amber Garcia. I am Derek and this has 954 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 1: been the Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 955 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 956 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.