1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: I Am all In again. 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: Oh it's just you. 3 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: I Smell Pop Culture with Eastern Allen and iHeart Radio podcast. 4 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: Come on, feel the pop culture girls rock you. Sorry, guys, 5 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: sorry about that. That didn't sound as cool as it 6 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: did in my head. My name is Easton Allen, it 7 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: is I Smell pop Culture here on the I Am 8 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 1: all In Podcast. Thank you Scott Patterson for giving me 9 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: the keys to your car, for letting me do this. 10 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: I'll bring it back with a full tank, I promise. 11 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: Here's what we do here. We explore the pop culture 12 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: references and Gilmore Girls. We talk to the people that 13 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: make them real. We talk to the people that bring 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: them to life. And we are rocking out this week. Everybody. 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: I hope you got your leather jacket. I hope you 16 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: got your big boots, your vinyl, your shaggy hair. We're 17 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: going into the world of hair metal this week. So 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: here's the thing about Gilmore Girls. We all know that 19 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: Sebastian Bach, he played gil He was in the band 20 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: hep Alien. He is a real deal rocker. Sebastian Bach 21 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: is the real deal. Scott's talked to him a bunch 22 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: of times on this podcast. We love Sebastian Bach. But 23 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: there's a scene that he has in season six, episode four, 24 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: the Festival of the Living Art, when he's trying out 25 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: for HEP Alien and he references another band. That's who 26 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: we're going to talk to you today. So here is 27 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: the moment in Gilmore Girls that we are going to 28 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: be exploring today. Gil's trying out for HEP Alien. He 29 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: you know, there's an age difference. It is kind of weird. 30 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: He's a much older guy. He's god, he's so good. 31 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: Look I rewatched this episode today, but he is such 32 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: a good looking dude. But later in the episode, when 33 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: they're at the festival, Lane is talking to Gill she 34 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: sees in there watching the show, and he kind of 35 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: admits like, hey, I know I'm not getting the I'm 36 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: not getting the gig. I didn't pass the audition. I 37 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: know it. And Lane reassures him, you're a great guy, Gill, 38 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: You're great guitar. So someone's gonna scoop you up quick. 39 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: And Gil's like, I hope. So I'm gonna keep going 40 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: no matter what, not like last time, And Lane says 41 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: last time and Gil says yet he tells a story. Yes, 42 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: I had another band a great band. We have the 43 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: hottest band in LA. We sold out all the clubs, 44 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: the House of Blues, the Whiskey A and our guys 45 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: were hanging out. We had an awesome demo tunes. Then 46 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: we got our big break, an opening slot on a 47 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: national tour with Quiet Riot. But we blew it. We 48 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: were fighting all the time over money, over chicks. We 49 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: broke up before the tour even started. What a sad 50 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: tale that Gil spins in that moment. But we're going 51 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: to talk to Quiet right, is of course a real band, 52 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: a band that's been around. They're still touring. They have 53 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: been around for decades now. And if you're not a 54 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: hair metal band, if you're not into this rock and 55 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: heavy music, I guarantee you know come on feel the noise. 56 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: I guarantee you know that song. Come on Field no 57 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: huzz don't worry. I want to sing the whole thing. 58 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: But we are going to talk to Rudy Sarzo. He 59 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: was the bass player in Quiet Riot. But oh he 60 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: doesn't stop there. He also played bass for Ozzy Osbourne, 61 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: Blue Oyster, Cult, Whitesnake. This guy is a legend in 62 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: the world of heavy metal music. And we're going to 63 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: talk to him all about Quiet Riot. We're gonna talk 64 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: to him about his friendship with Sebastian Bach. He knows 65 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: our guy gil We're gonna get into it all here 66 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: on I smell pop culture. Let's not waste any more 67 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: time before talking to Rudy Sarzo from Quiet Riot. Rudy, 68 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: thank you so much for doing this. We're so excited 69 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: to talk to you. 70 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: My pleasure. 71 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: The reason we are talking to you today is that 72 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: Sebastian Bach was in Gilmore Girls, and you have a 73 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: history with him. But in the show he was he's 74 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: telling the drummer of a band he's auditioning for that 75 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: his last band in La had a big break opening 76 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: for Quiet Riot, but then they blew it. They got 77 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: into a big argument over money, over women. They couldn't 78 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: keep it together. They didn't get to go on the tour. 79 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: A lot of people think that that line is about 80 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: skid Row, Sebastian's real life band and a spot opening 81 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: for Kiss. What's your relationship with Sebastian Bach? How far 82 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: back do you, guys go? 83 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: We go far back as Actually I met him right 84 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: when he joined the band. I would say nineteen eighty eight. 85 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: We were in Los Angeles. I was in Whitesnake at 86 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: the time, and I went to visit their skid Rose manager, 87 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: an old friend of everybody's, Doug McGee. He's a oh yeah, yeah, 88 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: Douc McGee. You know, he manages everybody, especially by Jovie 89 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 2: and skid Row monthly crew at the time and then 90 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: currently Kiss and all of that. So we were hanging 91 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: in his house and he was introducing us the guys 92 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: from Weissnik that were president at this party in Newport, California. Uh, 93 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: the guys in the band and the Lass guy was Sebass. 94 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: You you know, I mean, you don't miss him. You 95 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 2: can't get away from him. You know, he's like seven 96 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: feet tall and loud and really really good looking guy. 97 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: You know. I mean, if you ever saw the cover 98 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: of Rolling Stone magazine where they had him in there, 99 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 2: you know, on the cover. You know, I think that 100 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: was the last photo that Rolling Stone published with a 101 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 2: with an actual you know, hair band rock star skid Row. 102 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: We're not really a hair band because they were a 103 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: little bit grungier, a little bit more punk in the attitude, 104 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 2: but they just happened to come out at that time, 105 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: and you know how it is you know, the media 106 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 2: and the record company. You know, they're trying to put 107 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: you in a category so they can sell you, of 108 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 2: course to a certain demographic, you know. So they fell 109 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: into that demographic of the their band. But you know, 110 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: they came up with some other future recording that actually 111 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: were much heavier than their first record, you know, less valid, 112 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 2: less pop sounding arrangements of the songs and so on 113 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: back in the nineties, so they would actually tour still 114 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: tour with the heavier, grungier sound from Seattle, you know, 115 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: bands you know from that, from from that, yeah, from 116 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: that style of music, you know, because at the end 117 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 2: of the day, everything melts into one thing. It's rock 118 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: and roll, you know. So what happens is, you know, 119 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: while MTV and record companies were dictating kind of it's 120 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: like serial some kids are going to be sold on 121 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: the idea of count Count Chocula. So you've got to 122 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: eat this city or some kids, waitis it is for you? 123 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: You know? You know, if you watch you watch morning cartoons, 124 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 2: it was all about selling cereal and then Captain Crunch 125 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: with a little whistle. Then later somebody figured out that 126 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: if you bleue this whistle into a telephone, you can 127 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: make long distance calls for free. I remember, Yeah, so 128 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: you know, and it's but you know, music was pretty 129 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: much the same. It's like, Okay, we're gonna we're gonna 130 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: go on MTV and we're gonna tell the MTV audience 131 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: that if you like the Thompson Twins, maybe skid Row 132 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: is not for you. They're more like, if you're like Bonjobie, 133 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: you're gonna love skid Row basically, you know. So you know, 134 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: with time, now that MTV is not playing videos anymore, Uh, 135 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: the new generation gets to discover on their own, you know. 136 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: But it's difficult to find bands because it's kind of 137 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: like going into Costco and you want to find something. 138 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: You know, where is the Dysphibia, But you got to 139 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: go through every aisle looking for it, you know, but 140 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: eventually you will find it. 141 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's kind of a double edged sword 142 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: because it's like if you're especially if you're like a 143 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: band starting out, you have so much opportunity to get 144 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: your sound out there, but there's so much to listen to, 145 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: so much to get to sift through, you know. 146 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you've got to create a viral presence, not 147 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: just one video you've got to create multiple videos, you know, 148 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: and you have to like doing it, which is really interesting. 149 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: You know, the record company used to shroun on artists 150 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: getting involved beyond the creator creating the content once it 151 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: came into marketing, and if you had ideas for videos, 152 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: they didn't want to hear about it, you know. They 153 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: usually in director and I went through this. Let's say, 154 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: I mean a band we're going there's a new record 155 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 2: coming out, and that the first single has been picked. 156 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: So we get all of these directors coming in pitching ideas, 157 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: you know, and and he used the problem. So this 158 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: is a young director. He comes in and he pitches 159 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: you an idea that you might think like, na, it's 160 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: not really for us. Later on, you're working with this director. 161 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: Now he's huge, and you're working with him in another band, 162 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: and he remember you his great idea that he actually 163 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: used on another band that had a big video with 164 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 2: that idea that you passed. 165 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: Now, really, you've you've been in so many bands, Like 166 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: we were saying earlier, I'm curious, like what Sebastian was 167 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 1: saying in that Gilmer Girls episode, Like there's a lot 168 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: of times, especially in rock bands, you hear the stories 169 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: of like egos clashing or or you know, you get 170 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: into a fight of her money or something like that. 171 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: Is what a secret to like a harmony within a band, 172 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: like how how do you? How does everybody get along? 173 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: Has that happened for you? 174 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: Is that not? Yeah? They in the tour of us, 175 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 2: They in your bunky way to your bunk. Even if 176 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: they think you're up to something nefarious in your bunk, 177 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: it's okay because once you are in the front lounge 178 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: where things happen people, you know, guys in the band, 179 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: they get sick of looking at each other for months. 180 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 2: It's like pirates in a pirate ship. Yes, it's just 181 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: like that. Because you're going from down you you forget 182 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 2: where you're att Sometimes they have to write it down 183 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 2: on the front of the stage. Hello, Minnesota, you're Minnesota. 184 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: You know and and and that to me is the 185 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 2: best what you do. It's just like, do what you're 186 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 2: there to do, make your music, and then just stay 187 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: out of the way. Don't have opinions because opinions will 188 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 2: get you in trouble. You might be because it will 189 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: create a separation between you know, one side and the other. 190 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: You know, So the best way is to like, you know, 191 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 2: it's almost like a like if you're living at home 192 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: with your family, your mom and dad and your brothers, 193 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: where do we spend most of our time in our room? 194 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 195 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 2: In our room, you know, so it's the bunk. It's 196 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: our room. And then come out to eat and socialize, 197 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: has a little breakfast maybe, and then go back. 198 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: That's good advice. I mean, it's good advice for life too. 199 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: Just kind of like my mind, your business, take care 200 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: of yourself absolutely. Yeah, Like I know you get this 201 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: question a lot, but I'm just so curious, like, like, 202 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: is there what's the craziest thing that has happened to 203 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: you on stage that you can remember? 204 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: Well, that would be with Ozzy with Ozzy Osbourne and 205 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 2: I joined Ozzie in nineteen eighty one on his first 206 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: Aussie you know, solo artist tour. Yeah, for Blizzard of 207 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 2: Oz and then for Diary of mad Men, and uh, 208 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: you know Ozzie, he's predictably unpredictable. You never know what's 209 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: gonna happen. He doesn't even know what's gonna happen. It 210 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 2: just happened. Yeah, there's no playing, it's just do it, 211 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: you know, on stage, you know, and it was like 212 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: every night was like, Okay, what is he going to do? Now, 213 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: what's gonna happen? You know. So one of those nights 214 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: the Moine Iowa in nineteen eighty two Diary of the 215 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: mad Men Tour, somebody throws a crumpled thing thing on, Harry, Harry, 216 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 2: fuzzy thing on. Stay. It's lands in front of me 217 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: and I'm doing my you know, head banging, you know, 218 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: moving the base of the head around, and I point out, Ozzie, Hey, 219 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: check this out. Well, we're playing. So I just kept playing. See, 220 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: I just carry off. That was in the middle of 221 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: the set. So we finished our set. Then I see 222 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: an ambulance waiting for Ozzie on the side of the stage, 223 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: you know, and they rush him in there and they 224 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: draw it drive off, and I go to our manager 225 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 2: and then say Sharon, and I go what happened? He says, well, 226 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 2: somebody threw a bat on stage, and Ozzy thought that 227 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: it was a toy bat, so he bit into it 228 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 2: and bent his head off, and he freaked out and 229 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 2: spit it out into the audience and they can't they 230 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: can't find it. Now, Oh my god, He says that 231 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 2: we're not gonna take any chances. We're gonna get him 232 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: to emergency and get him some Raby shot. So we 233 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: take the tour bus and we clean up, and we 234 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: parked the tour bus in front of the hospital emergency entrance, 235 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: and so as he comes out and he's got this 236 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 2: little box with monkey serum vile for him to take 237 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: shots every day. And they said do not drink monkey 238 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: sum because he wasn't the refrigerator along with like everything else, 239 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: my yogurt, milk, beard, monkey serum, drink coffee. 240 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. I can't believe you were there for that. I mean, 241 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: we've all heard the Ozzie bit the head off the 242 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: bat story, but I didn't know the details. I can't 243 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: believe you were there. And the fact that he thought 244 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: I never knew that he thought it was a toy 245 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: or something. I just assumed he would, you know, because 246 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: you hear the stories like oz, he's crazy. He just 247 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: did that. 248 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the help throw back. 249 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is that's insane. I mean, that's a good 250 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: answer to that question of what's the most insane thing 251 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: that happened. That's absolutely nuts. We're to hear with Rudy 252 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: Sarzo is the bass player from Quiet Riot, Ozzy Osbourne, 253 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: as you just heard, Whitesnake, so many other amazing bands. 254 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: We have so much more to get into. We're going 255 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: to take a quick commercial break. Come on, feel the ads, 256 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: everybody one second. It is I smell pop culture. My 257 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: name is Easton Allen. I'm hanging out here with Rudy Sarzo, 258 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: the bass player, the rock bass player. If you ask me, 259 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: Quiet Riot boys are cold. I mean Dio. Oh my god, 260 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: some ma of these incredible bands. I want to go 261 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: back to the beginning of your time with Quiet Riot though. Yeah, 262 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: I read that you stumbled into one of their shows 263 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: after you couldn't get into a sold out Van Halen concert. 264 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: That is that true? 265 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: That is correct. It was nineteen seventy seven and Van 266 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 2: Halen was playing at the Whiskey and I couldn't get 267 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: in because it was sold out, you know, and so 268 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: I just I just got into town. I was like, 269 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: you know, stumbling around and you know, and there was 270 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: a community back then. There was a bunch of us 271 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: who were I wouldn't say aimless, but we were looking 272 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: for something. We didn't know exactly what it was, but 273 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: we're here because we couldn't come out of town. You know, 274 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: most of the musicians from the Sunset Strip at that 275 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: time had migrated from other cities in the United States 276 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: trying to find that combination of either a whole band 277 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: or some musician to put a new band together with, 278 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: you know, things like that. And so I was one 279 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: of them, and we all looked the same. We all 280 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: we had, you know, the same haircut, the same boots, 281 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: has the same leather jacket, and you know, it was 282 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: like a uniform basically, so we were easily identifiable. So, 283 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 2: you know, so a lot of them helped me out 284 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: the other guys because that was the rule of film. 285 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: Be nice to everybody because someday you might wind up 286 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: in a band with them. Good advice, you know, yeah, 287 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 2: And so, you know, so a couple of the guys 288 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: outside they couldn't get it there. They say, hey, you know, 289 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 2: right down the stream, there's a place called the star Wood. 290 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 2: Just going there. You know, they got some cool bands 291 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: playing there too, So I didn't, you know, And I 292 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 2: walk in and there's quiet Ryot performing. And I at 293 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: that time, before I got to LA in seventy seven, 294 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: I have been touring the bar circuit in the Midwest, 295 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 2: for maybe a year, year and a half, and I 296 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: had seen a lot of bands that now we're gearing 297 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 2: up to head out to Los Angeles to showcase and 298 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 2: get a record deal. And when I saw Quiet Ryan, 299 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: I thought, well, these guys did Yeah, they are an 300 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: arena band, yeah, doing an arena show, you know, performance 301 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: in the club, the showcase club. And I was really 302 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 2: impressed by everything. And so I after their show, especially 303 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: Randy Road. Randy Rhodes had this his fan base girls 304 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: standing in front of him worrying he used to wear 305 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 2: a little poke with dot bow ties. Yeah, and and 306 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 2: so they all wore little poke without bow ties, and 307 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 2: I go, wow, these these guys are rocal. They already 308 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: have a really strong fan base, because you don't seen 309 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 2: that when you play bars. When you play bars, people 310 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: are just there to drink and pick up each other, 311 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, that's why I've been married for forty 312 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: one year. He was me, do you go to bars anymore? Now? 313 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 2: I really know what I was looking for, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. 314 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: So after their show, Kevin was walking around making the 315 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 2: round Kevin de Brother, the singer, making the rounds, you know, 316 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 2: saying hello to friends, and I bump into him, and 317 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: I introduced myself. And this is something that I've always done, 318 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: even prior to meeting Kevin. When I see somebody who 319 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 2: who's promising, I'll let him know because sometimes this is 320 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 2: one thing that This is the fact local bands are incubated. 321 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: They are in one area. They don't know what's out there, 322 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: especially forty something years ago. This is nineteen seventy seven, 323 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: so it's almost fifty years ago. There's no social media, 324 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: you know, you have no reference. Nowadays, you can go, okay, 325 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: let me see what's out there. When you two that, 326 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 2: it's kind of like what we do. Ah, okay, So 327 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: now you can measure what you're doing, what to improve, 328 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 2: what to work on, how to be you meek from 329 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: these other bands, you know, things like that. So I 330 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: was out there and I'm just coming to LA, so 331 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: I could tell somebody from LA, Hey, listen, this is 332 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: what's going on out there. These are the bands, you know, 333 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 2: this is what they got going for that. You guys 334 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: got even more than they do. So keep doing what 335 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: you're doing. You're almost there and you're going to get 336 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 2: a record deal, which is the goal. This is this 337 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: is why everybody did it, so they could get a 338 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 2: record deal and then become a professional touring and recording band. 339 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 2: Yeah it's the dream, yeah, the dream. Yeah yeah. So 340 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 2: a year later, I get the phone call from Kevin. 341 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: I was in New Jersey with my brother putting, you know, 342 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: getting some money playing the lounge circuit. And then you know, 343 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 2: because you know, it can be very expensive to live 344 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, and I kept running out of money 345 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: and keep going back out again to make money playing 346 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: Top forty and then come back. And this is this, 347 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 2: this was the last time, because this nineteen seventy eight, 348 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 2: I already got my ticket to come home. I get 349 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: the phone call from Kevin de brother saying, hey, man, 350 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: you know we're looking for a bass play. We tried 351 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 2: everybody out, and you know, some people say that you're 352 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 2: the guy. And I said, listen, I'll be there next 353 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 2: week as soon as I land. I'm going to give 354 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: you a call when I come over in an audition. 355 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 2: And I did, and I started playing with kwiet right 356 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy eight. Wow. 357 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: And what fascinated me about that first when you first 358 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: joined the band is that then they break up like 359 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: what it was a year later the band breaks up. 360 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 2: Well, this is what happened Randy joined Ozzy Alsboy. So yeah, 361 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: there was a breakout because you know, Randy was irreplaceable, 362 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, and it was kind of like, you know, 363 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 2: it was kind of like, you know, how can we 364 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: continue on Squiet ride with our Randy? Yeah, exactly, And 365 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: so he joined Ozzy Alsbo you know, I mean it. 366 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 2: Kevin put his own band together called du Burow and 367 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: I even got to play with Kevin in Dubro eight 368 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 2: months before I joined Ozzy in April of the nineteen eighty. 369 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: One, you know, So what was that transition going from 370 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: Quiet right to Ozzy Osbourne? And again this is like 371 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: when he's first breaking out from Black Sabbath as a 372 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: solo artist. What was that transition? 373 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: Like, well, it was a crash course and being authentic 374 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 2: heavy metal, all right, because you know, here I am, 375 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 2: I'm playing with one of the godfathers of heavy metal, 376 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 2: you know, one of the members of Black Cabin. They 377 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: invented the genre, and there's certain things that must happen 378 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 2: musically in on states to maintain the authenticity of it, right, 379 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: And my rests at the time was being a musician 380 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 2: in the sonsas Strip, you know, And and I had 381 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: never been abroad. I mean I meaning in Europe, never 382 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 2: been across the pond. I was was born in Cuba, 383 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 2: so I was not you know, born in the United States. 384 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 2: So yes, I came from abroad and I came you 385 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 2: know to the United States in sixty one. But as 386 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: far as going to Europe or any other country, no. 387 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: I once went to Canada, but that's kind of like 388 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: for a couple. So uh so here I am in England. 389 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 2: You know, it's a whole different culture, the pub culture. 390 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: You know, back in the day forty something years ago. Uh, 391 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 2: people were set there along watch to pub hours, telling 392 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: that well it's eleven o'clock, it's open park and and 393 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 2: it's it's the mindset that if you know it's only 394 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: going to be open for two or three hours, you're 395 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 2: gonna drink your ass off, yeah, because they're gonna take 396 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 2: that away from you closing time. They're gonna alter it 397 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 2: up again later, so you're gonna go back back to work, 398 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 2: you're gonna be you know, smashed. It's okay, So he's 399 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 2: everybody else exactly. You know, little things like that that 400 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 2: I had never witnessed before. You know, Indian food, Indian 401 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: food which I love and all of that. But but 402 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: again going back to the to the being authentic heavy metal. Uh, 403 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: I was mentored by Ozzie. I was mentored by Sharon. 404 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: She took me to the side and she gave me 405 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: the the don'ts. Maybe she didn't give you one due Yeah, 406 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,719 Speaker 2: I do stand here, do stand here, but don't do 407 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 2: this and don't do that, you know, which is okay 408 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 2: because it had to see Ozzie at the beginning was 409 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 2: an extension of Black Sabbath. So certain traditional heavy metal 410 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: things had to happen on stage visually and performance wise, 411 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 2: you know, visually, image wise and performance you know, And 412 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 2: there were some boundaries on some rules that were laid 413 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 2: out organically a decade or and a half before Ozzie 414 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 2: went out as a solo artist. That became the tradition 415 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: of heavy metal. Another thing that helped me out was 416 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: that my ears, my heart might be expanding because uh 417 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 2: we had Motorhead. Now Motorhead. That was really interesting. See 418 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: because when I joined Ozzie, Assie was the only English 419 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 2: member in the band, but Motorhead was full blown English 420 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 2: traditional and let me, let me, let me, let me, 421 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 2: let me what an I'd never met anybody like Levy before. 422 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: They were like like pirates, you know, like Pirates of 423 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 2: the Caribbean. It was just like that, you know. 424 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, i mean they look too like the mustache and 425 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: that brocker base. 426 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 2: I mean yeah, yeah. Everything about it it was authentic, 427 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 2: was very It's something that it was not made up to, like, Okay, 428 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: we're gonna become like the village people. We're not, you know, 429 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 2: we're gonna become Motorhead and we're gonna be like this 430 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 2: this real heavy metal band. No, it just happened, you know, 431 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:39,719 Speaker 2: and it was a natural formation of this of this 432 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: beast whole mora ahead. And you would go into their 433 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 2: tour bus and it was like Caligula. It was like 434 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: all the women all in the place, you know, naked, 435 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 2: have naked the alcohol food, you know when I'm talking 436 00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 2: about like five day old pizza boxes. You know, you'll 437 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 2: go to our bus for Sharon trouble with us. It 438 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: was spotless, clean, everything in its place, nothing out of place. 439 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: It was like, wow, you. 440 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: Know, now which one were you more drawn to? Did 441 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: you like the clean, put together bus or did you 442 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: want to be on the party uh chaotic bus? Uh? 443 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 2: You know that's a great question. No, I lean more 444 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 2: towards the clean yeah, but but this is a matter 445 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: of getting an education, yes, to be educated and like 446 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 2: what is really heavy metal? Okay? And one thing that 447 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: I must I must uh mention here that it was 448 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 2: Sharon that was trying to keep Auzzi uh from getting 449 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: into trouble with drugs, alcohol, whatever, you know, the things 450 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 2: that he would do. In Black Sabbath traditionally, you know, 451 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 2: bands on the road, and these guys started out when 452 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 2: they were sixteen, eighteen year old year old. There's no 453 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 2: rules written, there's nothing is like, we'll figure it out, 454 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 2: you know as we go along. And there's certain things 455 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: that happened that got in the way of the quality 456 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 2: of their creativity, drugs and alcohol. And this is what 457 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 2: Sharon was trying to avoid with Ozzie, is for him 458 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 2: to go down that road, you know, and to be 459 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 2: honest with you, the other guys in the band, Randy, 460 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 2: you know, was very clean compared to Motorhead, and so 461 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: as Tommy Andres who have been on the road for 462 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 2: about maybe sixteen years with Black work Arden Saw and 463 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: Pat Travers and so on. He was compared to to Motohead. Yeah, 464 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 2: he was very clean. You know, so we were not 465 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: really really it's a lifestyle. You were not your typical 466 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: heavy metal band except for Ozzie. So you know, Sharon 467 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: would just like monitoring him, you know, make sure he 468 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: will not go off the deep end. But he needed 469 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: to be Azsi, which is you know, I have to 470 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: let him, let him be Aussie Goes. After all, he 471 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: is a. 472 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: That's a tough line to ride though, you know, because 473 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: you don't want him to destroy himself that you know, 474 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: you gotta let him be who he is. Also, yeah, 475 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: Rudy Sarzo is with us from Quiet Riot. I have 476 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: so many more questions for you. We got to talk about. 477 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: You know, you were playing with Ozzy Osbourne, but then 478 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: you come back to join Quiet Riot. We're going to 479 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: talk about that after we hear a few words. And 480 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: these words might mean goods and services that you could 481 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: be interested in patronizing. Who knows. Let's try it out. 482 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: It's I small pop culture. My name is Easton Allen. 483 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: We are talking to Rudy Sarzo from Quiet Riot. Quiet 484 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: Right gets back together in what nineteen eighty eighty two, Yes, 485 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: and and that's during the time of the Metal Health album. 486 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: I mean the breakthrough record. So I'm so curious, like, like, 487 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: what inspired Quiet Right to cover Slade for Come On 488 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: Feel the Noise? Where'd that come about? 489 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a really good question. So you know, 490 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 2: I got to give you the full picture. So Randy 491 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 2: Rose guys in the plane crash in nineteen eighty two, 492 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: March nineteen okay. And so but meanwhile, Dubrow had his 493 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 2: own band called Dubro that, like I mentioned, I was 494 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: a member right up until the day that I joined Ozzie. 495 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: So in September, as I am getting ready to go 496 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: to New York to record Speak of the Devil, which 497 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 2: is the Ozzie Black Sabbath era re recordings of you know, 498 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: his classic you know material, yeah song you know from 499 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: Black southn Okay live had the Rich in New York. Okay. 500 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: So I get the phone call from Kevin and said, Hey, Rudes, 501 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,479 Speaker 2: we're in the studio. It's a possible record deal. How 502 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 2: would you like to come down and record on Thunderbird 503 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 2: as the tribute to Randy. Now I'm still a member 504 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 2: of Ozzie, the band is still called Dubrow. At that time, 505 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 2: it wasn't quite a riot yet. And so I go 506 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: in record thunder Bird. Frankie Banali, the drummer, I had 507 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: a history with him dating back to ten years prior 508 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: to nineteen seventy two. I met him on my birthday 509 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 2: November eighteen, nineteen seventy two. He's his band called Ginger. 510 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 2: This is in Fulordadale area. Happened to had opened up 511 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: as the last minute replacement for the opening band originally 512 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: for the David Bowie Spiders from Marsh tour of the 513 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 2: United States, and they played at this place called Pirates 514 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 2: Work and I walk in and I see this opening band. 515 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 2: I had no idea who these guys are, but I 516 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 2: was blown away by the drummer. Yeah, everything about him, 517 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: his drum kid, the way he played, and his attitude. 518 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: I'm just completely blown away. So the next day I 519 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 2: met this It's my birthday at this club in full 520 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: Oaddale and I'm hanging with my friends and somebody says, hey, 521 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 2: that's one of the guys from the band that opened 522 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 2: up for Bowie yesterday. And I make a beeline for 523 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: the guy and introduced myself and I said, man, I 524 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 2: saw you guys playing last night. You guys were amazing, 525 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 2: especially your drummer and he's smiling. Look, and I'm going 526 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 2: on and on about how great the drummer is. Then 527 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 2: and then he stretches out his hand and he says, Hi, 528 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 2: I'm frank I'm the drummer. I had no idea it 529 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 2: was it because I was in the cheap seats back there, 530 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, which at the time, the difference was 531 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 2: like seventy five cents. Yeah, you know, about seventy five 532 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 2: by like half half a tank of gas. 533 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a big deal, you know. 534 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 2: Good. So anyway, so we started playing immediately right after that, 535 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 2: we put a band together, and then we moved out 536 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 2: of the Followda Delle Miami area because Bisco came in 537 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: and we wanted to play rock and roll, so we 538 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 2: moved to Chicago. That's when we were in Chicago, and 539 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 2: then we moved to LA in seventy seven, trying to 540 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 2: put a band together. We ran out of money, we 541 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: went on separate ways, and I came back to LA 542 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 2: to join in nineteen seventy eight. So fast forward to 543 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty two, finally in the studio with Frankie. So 544 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 2: we had a huge history. We lived together, we toured together, 545 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 2: we grew playing music together, and so you know, I 546 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 2: once Randy passed away, it was never the same in 547 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 2: the in the you know, going on stage with with Ozzy, 548 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 2: you know, And I can pretty much say that for everybody, 549 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 2: you know, especially especially Ozzy. I I I don't even 550 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 2: know where he found the strength to actually do a show, 551 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 2: because many many times I would start crying. Like when 552 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 2: we when we did My Mister Square Garden, I stepped 553 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 2: on stage. You know, I see a signs and banners 554 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 2: saying God Bless Randy. It was like a wake man, 555 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I just put my head down and 556 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 2: and cried the whole night. Every time I lift my head, 557 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 2: that's all I would see, you know, people you know 558 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 2: with Randy signs and banners, and it was like, so 559 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 2: you know we went through that, and I know Ozzie 560 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 2: went through it. Tell me, Ah, dres down Airy, you know, 561 00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 2: all the members of the band. So it's I lost 562 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 2: the joy of making music. You know. It was just 563 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 2: like pulled out of me. You know, because Randy was 564 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 2: not just my former bandmate from choir Ryert. He was 565 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 2: the guy who introduced me to Ozzie and Sharon. He's 566 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 2: the one who put his credibility on the line with them. 567 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 2: As far as me joining the band, you know, I 568 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 2: owe him everything. If it wasn't for him, you know, 569 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 2: I don't know what I would be doing, you know. 570 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 2: But but but as far as what I've done is 571 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 2: because of him, and then Ozzie and Sharon believing in 572 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 2: believing in Randy, trusting him, and then believing in me 573 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 2: once they got to know me, because I had a resume. 574 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,760 Speaker 2: My resume was Rudy. He used to play with Randy 575 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 2: in Choir Ryot and now sleeps and Kevin Dubrow's spare 576 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 2: bedroom on the floor. That's my resume right there, you know. 577 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 2: So here we are in the studio. So I gave 578 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 2: you that. That the background of me entering a studio 579 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 2: to record one song with Dubro for a possible record deal. 580 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 2: The guitarist Calvis Cavaso, I had never met him. We'll 581 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 2: play with him before obviously I never met him, but 582 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 2: he had just joined the band. The band was so cool, Dubre. 583 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 2: I was just making a guest appearance. I said, as 584 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 2: a member of Bonzie we used to play in Choir 585 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 2: Riot with and I knew the songs because thunder Bird. 586 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 2: It was a song that Kevin wrote wrote for Randy 587 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 2: when Randy left the Choir Riot to join Ozzie, So 588 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 2: I was very familiar with it. So we tracked it quickly. 589 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 2: Two takes, and then the producer goes, hey, do you 590 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 2: remember any of the all songs like sleep Batelle, Yes, 591 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 2: let's do it. Another two takes, and then two more 592 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 2: songs from the dubro Erah loves a Bitch and let's 593 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 2: get crazy. So by the time I finished my session 594 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 2: for a song, I'm packing up, and I hear Frankie 595 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 2: and Kevin in the hallway outside me at the studio, 596 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 2: you know where. We're in the recording room, and Frankie 597 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 2: is telling Kevin, listen, don't worry, I'll take care of this. 598 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna play as bad as possible. So so Spenser, 599 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 2: you know, the producer gives up on the idea of 600 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 2: us for recording, come and feel then noid And for 601 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 2: me knowing Frankie what an incredible drummer. I mean, like 602 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 2: I told you the first time, my toy just blew 603 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 2: my mind. I said, you know what, I've never heard 604 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 2: Frankie play bad. I got to stick around for this. 605 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 2: You know, He's going, yeah, sound like Frankie playing bad. Okay, 606 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 2: So I'm in the control room watching the whole thing 607 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 2: and just one take, and Frankie's idea of playing bad 608 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 2: was basically just playing as simple and boring to him 609 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 2: as possible. He used to call that the wind up monkey, 610 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 2: you know, back the they weed to have like little 611 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 2: monkey that yeah, do that right? 612 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, that was in his head. 613 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 2: He was doing that during the whole song. So they 614 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 2: do one take. I wasn't playing bass. It was actually 615 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 2: twenty Cabasso, I called Cabas's brother came down to lay 616 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 2: down the bass track for that. He was not in 617 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 2: the band, but somehow he wound up doing that. Okay, 618 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 2: so one take and the producer goes, okay, we got it, 619 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 2: and Kevin was furious. Frank is like apologizing, like, oh man, 620 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 2: I try my best, you know, to play that. Kevin 621 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 2: was just played besides himself. And and so yeah, the band. 622 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 2: When I say the band, I said Frankie and Kevin. 623 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 2: Because I was not a member yet, they wanted to 624 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,720 Speaker 2: salve withas song. They just wanted to have an album 625 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 2: full of original material and uh but but the them 626 00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 2: having a record deal depended on recording com Feel the 627 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 2: Noise because the producer so that that was a hit, 628 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 2: that song if it was perform the way that he 629 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 2: envisioned it, which is pretty much what's on on the 630 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 2: on the record, that that was going to be a 631 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 2: big hit. 632 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: And wow, that's a wild story of how it came 633 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: to be. I mean, and it's uh and it was 634 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: a big hit. I mean it is a big hit 635 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: and people are still you know, uh when I hear 636 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: I didn't find out come on Feel the Noise was 637 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: a cover until recently, Like like honestly, I was like, oh, 638 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 1: that's quiet right song. Uh, you guys really made it 639 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,720 Speaker 1: your own. So then Metal Health, I mean, that album 640 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: just blows up, you guys just become it goes into 641 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: the stratosphere, Like like, how did the dynamics of the 642 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 1: band change after releasing that record? 643 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 2: You know that your original question about Yeah, yeah, I 644 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 2: spent a lot of time in my bunk. Yeah, because 645 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 2: everything changes. It's like success, which changed everything. Yeah, you know, 646 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 2: I mean, here I am. I left Ozzie, one of 647 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 2: the biggest bands in the world to join and they 648 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 2: treated me great. Sharon Azzie were the greatest with me 649 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 2: from day one. You know that the day that I 650 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 2: got the audition to joining Aussie. I went from sleeping 651 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 2: on the floor getting waking up on the floor that 652 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 2: morning to all of a sudden, I moved in with 653 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 2: Sharon's family up in the Hollywood Hills and we're talking 654 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 2: and mentioned built by by Howard Hughes for Jane Russell. Yeah, 655 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 2: it was like if megap movies start mentioned I moved 656 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 2: in with him. You know, this is how kind and 657 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 2: general that day Ausie, because you know, I here, I am, 658 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 2: I joined the band, and you know, we're kind of 659 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 2: like hanging out and blame pool with Ozzie and he's 660 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 2: telling me stories and and he looks at my clothes, 661 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 2: which were actually my rock star clothe and he says, man, 662 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 2: you look like ship. You need some rock star clothes. 663 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 2: And he says, right right here. He went to his room, 664 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:14,760 Speaker 2: came back with his suitcake reported on the pool table 665 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 2: and says, take what you want. Wow, nobody has before 666 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 2: or after that ever done that for me or anybody off. 667 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 2: You know, I looking at you know, jackets and you know, 668 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 2: and and all these shirts that were actually on iconic 669 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 2: Black Sabbath album Government. I'm going to the jacket from 670 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 2: that oh yeah, unreal, and they were always like that 671 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 2: even after that. It wasn't just like one case scenario, 672 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,359 Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, so it was it was really tough 673 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,760 Speaker 2: to to to, you know, move on from USSI playing, 674 00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 2: you know, but I just lost imagine how which I 675 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 2: lost lost the joy of making music that I needed 676 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 2: to get away that I went from the one of 677 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 2: the biggest bands of the Complete Unknown with no guarantee 678 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 2: that we were going to sell ten copies of that right. 679 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: Now, and it's it's an incredible career and quiet riot. 680 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,959 Speaker 1: You guys are touring or it's so touring recently right. 681 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we still are. Yeah yeah yeah. 682 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: And are you enjoying Uh are you enjoying getting on 683 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: stage and playing all these years later? 684 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, of course I do. Uh, it's it's many. 685 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 2: It's very different in so many aspects, uh, you know, 686 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 2: like like like the travel you know, back you know, 687 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 2: I've been married for forty one years now. I met 688 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 2: my wife nineteen eighty one during the Aussie era and uh, 689 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 2: back in the day, I mean I spent the eighties 690 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 2: mostly on a tour of US, you know, for months, 691 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 2: and now, you know, for forty years later, there's a 692 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 2: need to be with my family of course, spend quality time. 693 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 2: So we we we fly out on weekends and uh, 694 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 2: we come home during the week. That's why I'm here 695 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 2: having this conversation with you, you know, because you know 696 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 2: I'm home and and I love it. It's it's just 697 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 2: a balance my life now, you know that I did 698 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 2: not have back then. 699 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: Balance that that's an important word to remember, and I 700 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: think that's that's something we all need to strive for. Yeah, 701 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: Rudy Starzo, just the coolest guy in the world. Before 702 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: I let you go, I have a question that is 703 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 1: this might be weird, but I have a question, what 704 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 1: does pop culture smell like to you? If pop culture 705 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 1: had an odor, what would it smell like? 706 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 2: Pop culture? You know, you know what, I listened to 707 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 2: a lot with the. 708 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 1: Bee Gees all right, staying Alive. 709 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 2: Damn that whole period. Uh, I mean, we can talk 710 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 2: about that whole each spirit because before that they had 711 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 2: the beatleish period, you know, the sixties, you know, to 712 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 2: love somebody all that, you know, And but then they 713 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,399 Speaker 2: came on their own with their own sound, which which 714 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:21,479 Speaker 2: I like, Disco borrowed a lot from their sound. Yeah, 715 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 2: and and this and this is what happened. I read 716 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 2: this on a magazine, mixed magazine, which is you know, 717 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 2: very legit. You know how disco, you know, the drum 718 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 2: beat is doomed fa dude fa right for people to 719 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 2: dance to. Right. So they're in the studio, uh, recording 720 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 2: those songs that wound up on on the on the 721 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:51,320 Speaker 2: soundtrack for Saturn Knight, and they did one or two tracks, 722 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 2: and their drummer has a tragedy in his family, so 723 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 2: he's gotta leave. And here they are in some studio 724 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:03,919 Speaker 2: in the middle friends the chateau, recording and they're like, well, 725 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 2: you know, we've got to get this done. So an 726 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 2: engineer or a producer comes up with the idea, you 727 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 2: know what, we can make loops of the drum track, 728 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 2: just the same beat, dude bye right. So yeah, so 729 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 2: they start recording the song on top of it, and 730 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,320 Speaker 2: then then once right right before they're getting ready to 731 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:34,439 Speaker 2: do mixing, they add the remaining percussion like Kimbali's drum 732 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 2: fills and crashes and things like that. But the layer 733 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 2: of the beat is constant during the whole thing. And 734 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,760 Speaker 2: that's how disco really but popularize. 735 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 1: I had no idea that is incredible. Yeah, it's fascinating. 736 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 1: And you think about the the effect that it's had 737 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 1: not just on disco, but like so much meat, I 738 00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 1: mean like dance meet electronic dance music today like hip hop, 739 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 1: such a lasting effect. That's incredible. 740 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 2: Because I know, if you listen to the previous attempt 741 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 2: at a funky track funk soul, you know, R and 742 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:17,919 Speaker 2: B version, you go to uh Nights on Broadway, Yeah, 743 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 2: you know, and that's fun. There's a lot of stuff 744 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 2: going on there, beats and you know, different rhythms the 745 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 2: other material, it was a steady beat during the whole thing, 746 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 2: and that was the key. Plus the front stah, you 747 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 2: know was just like I mean, nobody else saying you know, 748 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,320 Speaker 2: but that's so that reminds me of Miami. And I 749 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 2: was listening to someone dress like emotion and how deep 750 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 2: is your love? Yes, and it takes me back to Miami. 751 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 2: And there's a smell to it, the smell of the ocean, 752 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 2: the smell of the pump tree and the flowers that 753 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 2: grow in Miami and Miami Beach. That to me, it 754 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 2: is pop culture, pop culture. 755 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: I love that answer. I love it. I love that visual. 756 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Rudy, you're again the coolest guy 757 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,879 Speaker 1: who has ever walked to the earth. Everybody, go listen 758 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: to any of his bands and listen to his bass playing. 759 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,760 Speaker 1: He's truly a legend. Rudy Sarzo from Quiet Riot, White 760 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: Snake Blister. There's so much more we'd even get into. 761 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 1: I mean, how how do you cover this in an hour? 762 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,839 Speaker 1: But thank you so much for doing this once again. 763 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 1: You're the coolest guy in the world. 764 00:47:40,080 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 2: Thank you, man, my pleasure. God bless you everybody, and 765 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 2: don't forget. Follow us on Instagram at I Am all 766 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 2: In podcast and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.