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Speaker 3: Last night, if I would have said these things are

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Speaker 3: great in the first half, bad in the second half.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys have a chance to win this game.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts was the best player on the field. And

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Speaker 3: and somehow the Eagles held on. All of those things

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Speaker 3: to seven three DP Show Operator Tyler sitting by taking

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Speaker 3: your phone calls. There was a lot to take in

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Speaker 3: last night. I thought that the Cowboys would keep it close.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was going to be a three point game.

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Speaker 3: Ended up before point game, and Dallas probably should have

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Speaker 3: won that game because if you look at the first half,

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Speaker 3: back and forth and Dallas was kind of holding its

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Speaker 3: own no Jalen Carter, they took advantage of that. Ceedee

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Speaker 3: Lamb looked great. You know, it's probably hard to say this,

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Speaker 3: but it's true. Ceedee Lamb had seven catches for one

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Speaker 3: hundred and ten yards and didn't have a good game

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Speaker 3: because in the second half he cost them dearly and

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Speaker 3: coming into this season, he has had four career games

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Speaker 3: with three or more drops. That's more than any player

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Speaker 3: is one of those games that if you put it

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Speaker 3: in a time capsule and people go, how good was

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Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts? Now aside from the Super Bowls? But if

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Speaker 3: you said just a regular season game, let me see something,

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Speaker 3: let me see why he's the top five quarterback have

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Speaker 3: been the game last night because Saquon Barkley was good,

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Speaker 3: AJ Brown non existent. DeVante Smith had a couple of

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Speaker 3: catches in there. But if I combined all their yards,

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Speaker 3: I don't even think they have one hundred yards total.

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Speaker 3: That was Jalen Hurts. So you have your best defensive

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Speaker 3: player who's out and he seemed to take over the moment.

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Speaker 3: He did the right thing at the right time. First

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Speaker 3: in completion was in the second quarter. He played great,

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Speaker 3: and he took advantage of the middle of the field

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Speaker 3: when he was running when he was back to pass,

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Speaker 3: and then decided to get out of the pocket and

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Speaker 3: ran for a couple of touchdowns. That was all Jalen

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Speaker 3: Hurts last night the best player on the field, and

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Speaker 3: he's now I know his odds to win the MVP.

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Speaker 3: I don't even think he's a top five MVP candidate

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Speaker 3: because he's not going to put up incredible numbers. This

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Speaker 3: is a guy who played quarterback last night. This wasn't

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Speaker 3: a guy who was passing. He was a quarterback last night.

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Speaker 3: And this goes with game managing, which I know that

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Speaker 3: there are quarterbacks who think that, you know, this is

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Speaker 3: a disparaging remark, and it's not. It's understanding what you

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Speaker 3: need to do, and he did it. If I said

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Speaker 3: game master instead of game manager, is that better? Because

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Speaker 3: that's what this is.

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Speaker 4: To me.

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Speaker 3: That was old school football of I don't care what

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Speaker 3: And he proved that whatever you needed him to do

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Speaker 3: of your quarterback. Now I've said on record, I didn't

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Speaker 3: think he was a great quarterback. I just think he's

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Speaker 3: against him that he's got maybe the best front office

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Speaker 3: I just I think we grade Jalen Hurts on a

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Speaker 3: curve that somehow Yeah, but yeah, but watched last night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah but last night he did what you want your

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Speaker 2: Brilliant, surgical, Yes, Marvin, I.

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Speaker 5: Think the main reason why it's going to be so

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Speaker 5: tough to him for him to win League MVP is

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Speaker 5: because he's gonna get dinged for his team being so good,

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Speaker 5: because somebody's gonna say, oh, if I had that team,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if we hold him to the same standards,

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Speaker 3: we do other players. You know, Josh Allen. We don't

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Speaker 3: being Josh Allen. Lamar Jackson now has Derrick Henry and

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Speaker 3: he's won two MVPs. But you start, you know Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 3: well he doesn't have a defense. Well he does have

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Speaker 3: maybe the best wide receiving cores in the NFL. But

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Speaker 3: we look at Jalen Hurts differently because this is a

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Speaker 3: stats driven league, stats driven award, and it's ought to

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Speaker 3: say that Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen

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Speaker 3: I think you could say this with all sincerity. You

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Speaker 3: get to the playoffs. Give me, how many quarterbacks would

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Speaker 3: you take over Jalen Hurts in the playoffs? Okay, because

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Speaker 3: that's where I see real value. Regular season, Okay, Lamar

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Speaker 3: Burrow's going to be great. How many of those quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: I might take Josh Allen. Josh Allen's been a good

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Speaker 2: Hadn't shown me enough yet.

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Speaker 3: Stroud hadn't shown me enough yet. I mean, this is

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Speaker 3: a guy who outplayed Mahomes in two Super Bowls. He

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Speaker 2: I know it's high.

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Speaker 3: Praise, hyperbole, probably overreaction, but I did see it almost

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Speaker 3: you know, crystallizes with quarterbacks. You know, your first year

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Speaker 3: for championships, whether it's you know, college or the NFL.

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Speaker 3: He's in championship moments there and it didn't seem too

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Speaker 3: pretty cool and it was on display last night. Now

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Speaker 3: when Jalen Carter spit on Dak Prescott, and I, you know,

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Speaker 3: you got to have context with this. Now it doesn't.

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Speaker 3: I'm not exonerating Jalen Carter in the moment. I didn't

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Speaker 3: Dak Prescott was spitting when he was in the huddle.

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Speaker 3: You know, they're waiting for the you know, the official

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Speaker 3: Now we can get started, and Jalen Carter is probably

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Speaker 3: five feet away maybe from Dak Prescott, and maybe his

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Speaker 3: interpretation was, wait a minutes, he's spitting in an hour direction,

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Speaker 3: a sudden, you see him spit on Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: The thing that does make that a little funny is

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Speaker 7: they're clearly drawing at each other, I think, because Jalen

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Speaker 7: Carter is all by himself waiting there, and Dak walks

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Speaker 7: four or five yards in order to spit between those

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Speaker 7: two his two teammates. Yea, so it's not like he

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Speaker 7: was just standing there and spit. Dak walks almost five

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Speaker 7: full yards. That's further than you think in order to

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Speaker 7: That some of the video does start to make it

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Speaker 2: Here is Dak talking about the spitting incident.

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Speaker 8: I was right here by the two linemen, and I

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Speaker 9: Spit a head.

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Speaker 8: But I'd say he was back there where Joelry was

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Speaker 8: trying to spin on me? And at that point, I mean,

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Speaker 8: I felt like like like he was insulting me, like

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Speaker 8: I don't I wouldn't spin on somebody. I'm damn sure

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Speaker 8: not trying to spit on you. They're about to play

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Speaker 8: a game. I'm I was wondering why you're trying to

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Speaker 8: say the words like what the hell would I excuse me?

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Speaker 8: But I'm probably even more colorful, what would I need

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Speaker 8: to spend.

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Speaker 9: On you for?

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Speaker 8: And he just spent on me in that moment and

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Speaker 8: was more of a surprise than anything. Refs obviously saw

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Speaker 8: it through the flag. I was like, hell yeah, we

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Speaker 8: get fifteen yards to start the game off, and the.

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Speaker 3: Rep is right there. Really easy call. I mean, Dak

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Speaker 3: kind of goes, uh, hello, he just spent on me.

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Speaker 3: Here's Jalen Carter talking about his side of the story.

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Speaker 10: You know it was a mistate I have on my

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Speaker 10: on my side. You know, he just won't happen a game.

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Speaker 10: I feel bad for just my teammates and the fans

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Speaker 10: out there. You know, I'm doing it for them. You know,

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Speaker 10: I'm done for my family also, But depends. You know,

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Speaker 10: they saw the most love you heard them my day.

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Speaker 10: You know, he's just not being able to finish and

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Speaker 10: start the game, even defends the game.

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Speaker 6: Just up you getting better.

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Speaker 2: I won't having a gag.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the NFL has placed a large emphasis this year

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Speaker 2: That's a big factor.

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Speaker 3: Ross Tucker, who was doing the game on Westwood One,

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Speaker 3: talked about that as well. It's a really really big

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Speaker 3: point of emphasis. So the next question will be will

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Speaker 3: Jalen Carter be suspended? And I think I think given

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Speaker 3: the context of this now once again, he got suspended

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Speaker 3: We'll get to phone calls, we'll settle on a poll question.

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Speaker 3: I know the Clippers owner Steve Ballmer denied knowing about

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Speaker 2: Hey, we're going to get you a side deal.

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Speaker 2: How are you, buddy, Dan, Great to.

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Speaker 9: Be with you this morning, Thanks for having me on

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Speaker 9: the show.

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Speaker 3: Let me start with the bigger picture, the actual performance

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Speaker 3: of the game. Then we'll get to Jalen Carter. But

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Speaker 3: what did last night ten tell you about the Eagles?

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Speaker 13: That Jalen Hurst can get you out of anything? I

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Speaker 9: And I mean, I disagree with Tom Brady.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that feels like it's you guys get by on

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Speaker 9: The ball over, and you know they had.

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Speaker 13: Thirty eight rushing attempts. If you have thirty eight rushing

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Speaker 9: Charity for bailing me out.

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Speaker 13: all talking about only the Eagles losing because Jalen Carter

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Speaker 3: There's a lot more to that, like giving it context

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Speaker 9: Good question. Don't know. The forensics are obvious. You just

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Speaker 13: They're going to go through that, and they're going to

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Speaker 9: So there's that lens that we have to put on it,

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Speaker 13: two seasons his first two years with four personal fouls,

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Speaker 13: which is tied for most in the league. So this

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Speaker 13: is an NFL problem right now that they have to

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Speaker 13: figure out what to do. I don't think they should

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Speaker 13: suspend Jalen Carter. I don't because he already really served

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Speaker 13: the full game suspension in my view, by getting ejected

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Speaker 13: before the ball was snapped. I think he's already it's

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Speaker 13: time served. Yeah, I'm saying so, and looking at Dak

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Speaker 13: Prescott's role, I agree with you. Both of them will

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Speaker 13: probably get fined a big fat fight and maybe there'll

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Speaker 13: be a suspension. But I don't think that Jalen Carter

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Speaker 13: should be suspended. But the other thing, too, Dan is

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Speaker 13: big picture. Widen out the lens here. Jalen Carter wrecked

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Speaker 13: the divisional game against the Rams, wrecked the NFC Championship game,

447
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Speaker 13: wreck the Super Bowl, and allowing Josh Sweat and Milton

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Speaker 13: Williams to climb all over Patrick Mahomes the second in

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Speaker 13: that football game. He's the And I study some film,

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Speaker 13: not as much as my colleagues at NFL Films, and

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Speaker 13: I get the numbers from our guys. He's the most

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Speaker 13: double team defensive tackle in the NFL last year, So

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Speaker 13: that allows so many other things to operate because he's

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Speaker 13: on the field.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna throw the name out there.

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Speaker 13: He's Jerome Brown two point zero because of the way

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Speaker 13: he occupies the middle of the field. And as Nick

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Speaker 13: Sirianni said last night, we gotta have this guy on

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Speaker 13: the field.

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Speaker 9: So it's up to the.

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Speaker 13: Eagles front office, the players council. I talked to Lane

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Speaker 13: Johnson after the game last night. He said, the players'

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Speaker 13: council is gonna get involved figure out how to fix

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Speaker 13: Jalen Carter, who, by the way, Dan, he's on a

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Speaker 13: track to be one of the highest paid defensive players

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Speaker 13: ever at the tackle. The Eagles let a lot of

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Speaker 13: guys go because they know they got to pay Jalen Carter.

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Speaker 9: But if this continues, what do they do?

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Speaker 3: Talking to South pal Antonio, ESPN national correspondent covering the NFL, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I picked him as my Defensive Player of the Year.

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Speaker 3: He has entered that Aaron Donald category of yes, he

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Speaker 3: is going to disrupt and you're right, you know those

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Speaker 3: kind of players they're few and far between, but he's

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Speaker 3: almost going down that in Dominican Sue path where you know,

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Speaker 3: it's it's not the opposition, it's him. It's the personality

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Speaker 3: that he brings onto the football field.

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, I've been around him a little bit.

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Speaker 13: He's a tremendous player. But they've got to figure out

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Speaker 13: how As Sirianni said last night, and I agree with

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Speaker 13: Nick about this, he said, I want my players to

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Speaker 13: play with passion, but within the rules, and so now

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Speaker 13: they've got to make sure this guy gets it right.

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Speaker 9: However they're going to do that, he.

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Speaker 13: Has to get it right because you know he's You're right,

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Speaker 13: he's on the doorstep of Defensive.

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Speaker 9: Player of the Year.

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Speaker 3: I guess everybody would say the same thing watching the

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Speaker 3: game that if they had a spy on Jalen Hurtz,

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Speaker 3: that spy did a good job of staying undercover because

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Speaker 3: we never really saw him. Does Micah Parkerson's make that

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Speaker 3: much of a difference last night? If they have him

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Speaker 3: and they don't have Clark.

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Speaker 9: Yes, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 13: They they're you know, Michael Parsons is just so athletic

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Speaker 13: and so smart.

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Speaker 9: Light him up anywhere and he disrupts his speed.

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Speaker 13: His speed, he can track down guys including Jalen Hurts. Yes,

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Speaker 13: one hundred percent Michael Parsons. I mean, imagine you're Matt

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Speaker 13: Eberfluss and and you're head coach, and they're saying, we're

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Speaker 13: going to have this guy on the field week one,

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Speaker 13: and then all of a sudden, he poof, he's gone.

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Speaker 13: By the way, I'll have what Howie Roseman's having because

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Speaker 13: the Giants just sort of give up on Saint Quon

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Speaker 13: Barkley and then the Cowboys the next year trade Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 13: I mean, how he didn't have to lift the finger

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Speaker 13: and two division rivals got rid of the best two players.

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Speaker 2: Dan, great to talk to you as always. Congrats. Contract extension,

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Speaker 2: that's correct, contract extension.

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Speaker 9: I'm still here, Dan, still here?

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Speaker 2: How many years?

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Speaker 13: This is year thirty at the mother Ship as you

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Speaker 13: like to call it, and listen, as you know, you

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Speaker 13: have great support and love here and it's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Soel.

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Speaker 3: Congrats sal Palatonio, ESPN national correspondent overring the NFL thirty years.

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Speaker 2: I survived eighteen.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Pauline, Sal dropped the phrase dead in the water,

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Speaker 11: diw because he was in the Navy years ago, and

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Speaker 11: that reminds me of the Houston Super Bowl incident where

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Speaker 11: you and that guy and Sal was right to the

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Speaker 11: right of you.

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Speaker 3: Wait, did we find out if Sal was a Navy seal?

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Speaker 3: Is Sal still up there?

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Speaker 1: Sal?

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Speaker 2: Were you a Navy seal?

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Speaker 13: I was not a Navy seal DNA. We actually talked

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Speaker 13: about this in Scottsdale. I was a surface warfare officer. Okay,

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Speaker 13: I do remember that incident in Houston, and this is

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Speaker 13: where I get out of the zoom call right now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it wasn't an incident. It could have been an incident.

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Speaker 9: Yes, that's true.

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Speaker 11: Okay, thank you Sal. Yes, Paully, I had to be

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Speaker 11: complimentary Sal. As a wingman. This guy was in your

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Speaker 11: face a little bit in a bar, and it was

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Speaker 11: a lively bar and it felt like something might happen.

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Speaker 11: And Sal was right next to you. He had his

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Speaker 11: arms cocked like he was going to make a tackle,

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Speaker 11: like he was ready if an incident happened.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, he was. This guy was upset about something.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, like you guys make fun of or

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Speaker 3: why don't you cover?

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Speaker 6: I have no idea.

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Speaker 3: And I realize it's starting to get serious. And Sal

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Speaker 3: is right next to me, and Sal has got his

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Speaker 3: eyes right on this guy, right right on him, and

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Speaker 3: if it if the guy lifts his arm up, Sal's.

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Speaker 2: Going after him.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, damn, this is getting a little

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Speaker 3: little tense. Sal's right here to my right, and I'm going,

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Speaker 3: all right, if the guy hits me, then you know,

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Speaker 3: Sal will take care of him, and uh, I just

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Speaker 3: for some reason, it kind of quieted down a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Now there's part of me that wanted to see Sal

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Speaker 3: in action here because I'm like, all right, I'm here.

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Speaker 2: He's a Navy seal. I go, he's a Navy seal,

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Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 3: So I always if Sal was going to be out

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Speaker 3: or i'd see Salad, I don't you know, I'd hang

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Speaker 3: out with Sal. I think probably more so that he

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Speaker 3: was a Navy seal than I enjoyed his company. It

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Speaker 3: was like anything happens, I got Sal Palantonio here. Maybe

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Speaker 3: not as much now because he's not a Navy seal.

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Speaker 3: But whatever he was, it sounded pretty important there South,

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Speaker 3: So thank you again for having my back or my

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Speaker 3: front or my side or whatever it was.

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Speaker 11: Yes, Pauline, I also heard that Ed Werder was CIA

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Speaker 11: Black Ops Day.

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Speaker 6: Is that true?

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Speaker 2: I heard that.

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Speaker 6: That's going around lately.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: John Clayton worked for a masad. He was a massad agent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: People don't realize that, but yeah, Johnny and Johnny good times. Yep,

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Speaker 3: that was the good old days there. Dave in South Dakota, Hi, Dave,

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Speaker 3: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 4: Hey Dan? Thanks Tagan to call nobody I have. I

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Speaker 4: want to widen the lens even further on Jailen Carter

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Speaker 4: and ask why was Jalen on the Cowboys side of

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Speaker 4: the ball in the first place? Where were the Eagles coaches?

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Speaker 4: Where were the officials? Jalen and the Cowboys are out there?

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Speaker 4: Nothing good can happen.

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Speaker 2: You're right, You're right. He was three yards on the

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Speaker 2: other side. You're right.

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Speaker 3: And that's where somebody has to know. There's certain guys

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Speaker 3: where you go keep an eye on him, like in

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Speaker 3: Dominican su Yeah, got to keep an eye on him.

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Speaker 3: His teammates, keep an eye on him. And that was

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Speaker 3: the situation where you know, now maybe you're saying to yourself, Okay,

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Speaker 3: we haven't even started yet, what's going to happen? But

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Speaker 3: if he's approaching, then all of a sudden, it's like

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Speaker 3: I got somebody got to grab him and just say,

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Speaker 3: get what are we doing?

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Speaker 2: Let's go? You know? How about how about the proactive

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Speaker 2: here not reactive?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Chris and Maryland? Hi Chris, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 4: What's going on?

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Speaker 9: Then?

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Speaker 2: Hey Chris?

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Speaker 9: Okay, quick question.

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Speaker 4: So after an incident like last night, when the refs

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Speaker 4: get ready for the next game with Jalen Cardo, will

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Speaker 4: they talk about him specifically and be.

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Speaker 2: Like, hey, we got to be on the lookout for

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Speaker 2: that guy.

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Speaker 4: Or does that create a bias?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 3: I think that, you know, maybe subconsciously, Like if I'm

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Speaker 3: going to look at this honestly, I would say maybe subconsciously.

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Speaker 3: But do I expect Jalen Carter to be in a

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Speaker 3: situation like that?

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Speaker 2: Again? I do not. But this is about his team

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Speaker 2: with him. Now, it's about him, but it's about his

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Speaker 2: team as well, not about the officials. Yes, Marvin, I

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Speaker 2: have a strong inklin at Nick Sirian.

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Speaker 5: He's going to really give him a good pet talk

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Speaker 5: about not going over the other side of the line

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Speaker 5: of scrimmage.

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Speaker 3: Just wait until the game to go on the other

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Speaker 3: side of the line of scrimmage. Yes, yes, all right,

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Speaker 3: we'll take a break. Best week in sports. We will

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Speaker 3: NFL Network. Good to talk to you again. Now we

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Speaker 3: booked you before the incident last night with Jalen Carter

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Speaker 3: and Dak Prescott. So's it's just a coincidence that I'm

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Speaker 3: having you on.

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Speaker 14: I know that that's yes, that's the coincidence. We already

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Speaker 14: had this plan. This is this is not super random.

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Speaker 6: Can I tell you something, dam though? Yeah, when he

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Speaker 6: did that, I said, damn, I gotta talk to damn

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Speaker 6: Patrick tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: So let's go back to the Super Bowl. What is

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Speaker 2: that twenty one years ago?

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Speaker 3: Hey, Yeah, and you're playing the Patriots. You're with Carolina

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Speaker 3: and Tyrone.

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Speaker 2: Pool spits on you. Yeah, brought what brought about that?

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Speaker 14: I'm not sure, you know, I'll be honest, I'm not

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Speaker 14: sure what brings about any man to feel that it's

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Speaker 14: okay to spit on another individual. But you know, I've

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Speaker 14: been thinking long, in hard about which angle you would

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Speaker 14: come at this with. You know, I've been on you

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Speaker 14: for years, and you you go. You don't beat around

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Speaker 14: the bush. You go straight there, right point A to

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Speaker 14: point B. And man, when I saw that first, if

656
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Speaker 14: you break it down, he's a damn good football player

657
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 14: and is about to get paid, right, he is the

658
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Speaker 14: difference maker and we saw it immediately in his absence,

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Speaker 14: But he got kicked out of the game before the

660
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Speaker 14: game technically even got started, right, So I wasn't there,

661
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Speaker 14: So I don't really know what I would do, And

662
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Speaker 14: I'm glad because I think it's pretty gross to spit

663
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Speaker 14: on someone, and I'm not really sure what the content

664
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Speaker 14: text is, and it may he let's say, Abidak, Dak

665
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Speaker 14: says something super duper inappropriate.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 14: In my list of reactions, which could be a short

668
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Speaker 14: list or a long list, let's say a thousand things,

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Speaker 14: I can respond to one of them, maybe thumping someone

670
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Speaker 14: in an Adam's apple, But spitting is not on my

671
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Speaker 14: list of a thousand of my natural reaction.

672
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Speaker 6: When someone says something to me that I disliked.

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Speaker 3: I thought Dak baited him. I keep using the word

674
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Speaker 3: baiting because.

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Speaker 14: I don't I don't see here's the problem. Football games

676
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 14: are a bait gain from the jump. But I don't

677
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Speaker 14: think Dak baited him into.

678
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Speaker 6: Spitting on him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think he did because Dak spits in

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Speaker 3: the direction of Jalen Carter. Now that doesn't mean Jalen

681
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Speaker 3: Carter should have done it in front of the official,

682
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 3: but I think Jalen Carter, you know how you get

683
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 3: prior to a game are amped up?

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Speaker 14: No no, no, no, I don't know how I get

685
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Speaker 14: two spit in someone's direction.

686
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Speaker 3: No, no, you're just amped up. You're amped up and

687
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Speaker 3: then he thinks Dak is spitting in his direction. Now,

688
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: this is the guy who's been triggered. You know, when

689
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: it comes to personal foul penalties. He leads the league

690
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Speaker 3: in that. I mean, and that's that's all.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's all. That's great.

692
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Speaker 14: But you also got to understand too, he was in

693
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Speaker 14: their huddle, right, so that's not baiting. That's actually, uh,

694
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Speaker 14: I'm the leader of this huddle. You don't need to

695
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Speaker 14: be in here.

696
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Speaker 2: Where are his teammates, Steve what.

697
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 6: They're exactly where you saw? They were his team, his teammates.

698
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: That they should have grabbed. They know that he can

699
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Speaker 2: be he can be baited.

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Speaker 14: Okay, well man's well again, I wasn't there. I think

701
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Speaker 14: it's a disgusting act. But the unfortunate part is he's

702
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Speaker 14: an act of a football player. And everyone is going

703
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,959
Speaker 14: to start now writing articles of when he was late

704
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 14: to boy scout camp right when when he you know,

705
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 14: they're gonna find all these stories now and unfortunately he

706
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 14: is gonna be trolled and people are gonna be saying things.

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Speaker 6: That's the one thing, right, just the empathy.

708
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Speaker 14: Level of just being a human being, of how our solar,

709
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 14: how our social media is today. That's all we gonna hear.

710
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 14: You know, he's somebody. Some idiots gonna walk up to

711
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Speaker 14: him one day and go, oh, don't spit on me

712
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 14: like they're they're gonna be saying things, and I and

713
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Speaker 14: I and I feel bad for him because he's a

714
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Speaker 14: young player who's in a very uh success who's on

715
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Speaker 14: a very successful team. They're gonna be well covered and

716
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Speaker 14: he now is gonna be the butt end of people's

717
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 14: jokes or maybe six months, but for that individual that

718
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 14: it's about, it's gonna feel like eternity.

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Speaker 2: Does the NFL discipline him further? Would you.

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Speaker 6: Again, Dan, I'm being honest, man, it's so nasty. I

721
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Speaker 6: don't want to touch it.

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Speaker 14: Bro, Like, I got four kids, I wiped all their butts, right,

723
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 14: This is a This is the blow up diaper like

724
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 14: it's rock paper scissors.

725
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Speaker 6: Who deals with it? Right? And a blow up is

726
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 6: like when they have pants on?

727
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? And oh I know again, I passed.

728
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Speaker 6: Down the legs.

729
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Speaker 2: I got four kids too.

730
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Speaker 6: Look, I don't want to.

731
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Speaker 14: I'm just saying I don't want to deal with it.

732
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Speaker 14: It's disgusting. I feel bad for the kid.

733
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Speaker 3: He's Steve Smith, Senior, NFL network analysts played sixteen years

734
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Speaker 3: in the NFL.

735
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Speaker 2: Did you ever run in to tyrone Pool?

736
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Speaker 5: Oh?

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00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 6: No, I haven't run into him yet. Even if I did,

738
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Speaker 6: I wouldn't say anything. Now it's done and over with him.

739
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Speaker 2: Now you know what you told me after the Super Bowl?

740
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, I know exactly what I told you.

741
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Speaker 14: And that's also a place of you know, maturity if

742
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 14: people want to believe it. Where Man, I don't have

743
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 14: time at forty six years old to be sitting here tallying.

744
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Speaker 6: Up all the people who have pissed me off. Bro,

745
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 6: that's that'd be. That's a long day.

746
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 2: Come on, let's run through all the guys you're mad at.

747
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 6: Oh you know sometimes you've pissed me off. Dan. If

748
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 6: we're gonna start right.

749
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Speaker 2: So good.

750
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Speaker 6: But I mean, it's it is what it is, bro.

751
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Speaker 14: But at the end of the day, I'm a lot

752
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 14: of things, but spitting on people, No, sir, you don't

753
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Speaker 14: have to worry about that.

754
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Speaker 3: You told me you were going to set aside fifty

755
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: thousand dollars. Yeah, yeah, for the fine if you hit

756
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 3: tyrone Pool.

757
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Speaker 6: I mean I would sit that. I would sit aside

758
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Speaker 6: every year.

759
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 14: I would sit aside a certain amount of money, Uh,

760
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 14: for my finds because I knew I was gonna give.

761
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 14: It's called you know, financial literacy. You know you gotta

762
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 14: you know, it's three things. How you divide your money up.

763
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 14: You gotta treat yourself. Uh, you gotta save, and then

764
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 14: you have to invest in yourself.

765
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Speaker 3: So you know, Uh the CD Lamb first half, CD

766
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Speaker 3: Lamb second half.

767
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Speaker 6: Yeah, man, that was tough for CD.

768
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Speaker 14: You know, I've been one of those receivers or you

769
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 14: you I've been one of those football players in the

770
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Speaker 14: game and you feel like nothing you can't get out

771
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 14: of your own way. Nothing you can do, can can

772
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 14: can make it better. It's only worse. But I give

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Speaker 14: him credit. He didn't quit on his routes. His routes

774
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Speaker 14: weren't sloppy. He was running. He was running some of

775
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Speaker 14: these outstanding routes that he does. He just didn't finish.

776
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Speaker 14: I would expect that we will see improved CD Lamb

777
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 14: moving forward, but I mean, he's still a hecking a

778
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 14: football player, and it just it just sucks because if

779
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 14: he makes those catches, I think we're talking about this

780
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 14: game and the Cowboys possibly win it.

781
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 2: But how does that happen? When do drops?

782
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 3: Does it drop lead to another drop does it?

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Speaker 6: It's so it does, but it also goes to what's

784
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 6: your reset? How do you reset your mind? You know,

785
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 6: what is your routine to get out of that.

786
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 14: We all are gone to experience those those moments in

787
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 14: a game where you know, it's like, man, I just

788
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 14: I can't get out of my own way.

789
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Speaker 6: I just can't. I can't get right. And that happens.

790
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Speaker 14: And I mean, I remember, you know, playing in Carolina

791
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 14: and we had a game one time. I'm sitting on

792
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 14: the sideline Marcus Cooston. He dropped a few passes and

793
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Speaker 14: I was like, man, he's done.

794
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 6: He's done.

795
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 14: Because when you drop some key passes and they're still

796
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 14: going to you.

797
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 6: And you're dropping them, that's worse.

798
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Speaker 14: Because usually when you drop a few and they stop

799
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 14: going to you, then now psychologically you could be pissed

800
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 14: off that the coaching staff shut me down or they

801
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 14: didn't give me my opportunities. But in this one, Nah,

802
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 14: they kept feeding them. They kept giving him opportunities. Unfortunately,

803
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 14: he couldn't make the catch. So I personally think, my

804
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 14: humble opinion that it was worse for him psychologically, and

805
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 14: I think he's gonna he's gonna Uh, he's gonna work

806
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 14: on his craft so that that doesn't happen again this year.

807
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Speaker 2: Who's your Super Bowl pick?

808
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Speaker 6: I actually don't do Super Bowl picks.

809
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 2: I don't Who will be the best team in the AFC.

810
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 14: I'm excited to see how this Baltimore and Bill's game

811
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 14: goes because it goes down to the wire and these

812
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 14: two teams, and we could throw a third and fourth

813
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 14: in there, but Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen Man their

814
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 14: neck and neck is the guys who can really and

815
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Speaker 14: Joe Burrow who can challenge Patrick Mahomes with whomever Patrick

816
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Speaker 14: Mahomes has that receiver and tight end, he's gonna make

817
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Speaker 14: them better.

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Speaker 2: Who's the best team in the NFC?

819
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Speaker 6: I would saying until they proved, until their dethroned.

820
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 14: I believe the Philadelphia Eagles, even though they stumbled into

821
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Speaker 14: the game.

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Speaker 6: Some people saying offensively they struggled, Yeah they did.

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Speaker 14: And they're no different than all these other teams are

824
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 14: gonna struggle because this is sloppy September. They haven't done

825
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 14: any think in August. All they've done is run around

826
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 14: in underwear and jocks and uh, you know, training camps

827
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 14: aren't what they used to be. That's why you're having

828
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 14: a lot of soft tissue injuries. You're seeing guys blow

829
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 14: hamstrings because now you're running full speed versus tempo speed.

830
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 14: In practice, you're now running against an opponent who's running

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Speaker 14: full speed as well, and the competition they're adrenaline.

832
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Speaker 6: And so you're just gonna have a You're gonna have

833
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 6: a sloppy September.

834
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Speaker 14: You know it's gonna be an awkward October, and then

835
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Speaker 14: all of a sudden, they'll get it right in November

836
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 14: and then you'll start to see teams start to cruise

837
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Speaker 14: and establish himself. The Philadelphia Eagles last year started off

838
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 14: rocky right. There were some they need this, but the

839
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 14: difference I think this year that really is is is

840
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 14: a good thing. Aj Brown didn't get going. Slim Reaper,

841
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 14: Devonte Smith, he didn't get going right. They have some

842
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 14: guys that were backups who are not the starters got going,

843
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 14: got her, Dallas got her.

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Speaker 6: He hasn't got going.

845
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Speaker 14: Sae Kwon Barkley, even Shipley coming in as as sparing them,

846
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 14: he got going.

847
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Speaker 6: They got the.

848
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Speaker 14: Running game going, so they haven't gotten the past game

849
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 14: tightened up completely. It's not firing on all cylinders, and look,

850
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Speaker 14: I think that's great. If you're not following firing all

851
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 14: cinders week one, that's not a problem when you have

852
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 14: the type of players that the Philadelphia Eagles have. But

853
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 14: when you're firing on all cylinders and you have these

854
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 14: type of players and they're not producing, that's when it's problematic.

855
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 14: I think we are sometimes complaining about how a team

856
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:43,959
Speaker 14: wins because we're expecting a blowout instead of appreciating the dub.

857
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they started out two and two last season. Is

858
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 3: there a hit that you took that still hurts?

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Speaker 6: That a great question.

860
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so psychologically.

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Speaker 3: Is there one that you just you've thought about?

862
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 6: No, I'm man, I'm done football. I don't you know.

863
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 14: I On my podcast in A nine with James Farmer,

864
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 14: we talk about, you know, things I experienced, but.

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Speaker 6: You know that I don't miss football at all.

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Speaker 2: But is there a hardest hit you took?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 14: I mean I have so unplugged as far as my

869
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 14: career that there are sometimes I would see something that go, oh, yeah,

870
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Speaker 14: that did happen because I'm just so past it and

871
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Speaker 14: looking at it as I'm a paper pusher man.

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Speaker 6: I'm I'm a stat junkie that I'm a film watcher.

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Speaker 6: I don't, I don't.

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Speaker 14: I'm trying not to put myself in their shoes because

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Speaker 14: I'm not there anymore. That time has passed, and frankly,

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Speaker 14: I don't want that time anymore.

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Speaker 2: Could you talk to you again? You're still mad at me?

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Speaker 14: No? No, we were just going down the list people.

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Speaker 14: I'm not still manage. If I'm still managed you, I

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Speaker 14: wouldn't have come on your show. I don't have a

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Speaker 14: problem with you. You do a great job. It was more

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Speaker 14: or less uh me being in my feelings of being

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Speaker 14: sensitive and not necessarily wanted to deal with criticism.

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Speaker 6: But hey, we all grow.

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Speaker 15: Good to see you again, to see you look good man,

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Speaker 15: Thank you, thank you. I'm ready to go go for

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Speaker 15: where wherever you want me to go? Oh okay, special

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Speaker 15: teams you want to go around? Uh you know, kind

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Speaker 15: of a I'll come back round. I'm kind of like

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Speaker 15: Ricky prol No you're not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah I am, I know.

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Speaker 6: I know Ricky Ricky was.

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Speaker 14: Uh yeah, Well we say what we would say about

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Speaker 14: Ricky though, unlike you, Uh Ricky was he was raised

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Speaker 14: by some black guys.

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Speaker 6: We'll end on that. Thank you, Steve, Thank you, sir,

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Speaker 6: appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Steve Smith, Senior NFL Network candlasts quite an appearance there.

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Speaker 2: Dude's the best Man.

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Speaker 3: His podcast, The eighty nine Show, co hosted by Bleacher

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Speaker 3: Report athletic reporter James Palmer, and as they say, you're

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Speaker 3: getting unfiltered football insights, a storytelling veterans perspective.

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Speaker 2: And he's also on NFL Network