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Speaker 1: How many starting quarterbacks can you name from the Cleveland Browns?

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Speaker 2: Tim Couch, debtmer Kelly Holcombe, Spurgeon, Win, Doug Johnson, I

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Speaker 2: think is on there, Charlie Frye obviously, me Wheden, Campbell, Manzel,

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Speaker 2: Josh McCown, Jacoby Brissette.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you're right on the money here, McCoy.

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Speaker 2: Anderson, RG three Baker. Damn god it, dude, there's a lot.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not even gonna get halfway through this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Games with Names presented by Duncan. I'm Julian Edelman.

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Speaker 1: They're Jack and Kyler, and we are on a mission

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Speaker 1: to finding the greatest game of all time. We are

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Speaker 1: coming to you from the Duncan Nuthouse here in Boston.

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Speaker 1: On today's episode, we are covering the other twenty eight

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Speaker 1: to three game Browns versus Titans, Week five in the

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen season with Super Bowl Champ, the man who

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Speaker 1: played for nine different teams the same draft class with me,

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Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer, and we're hawk what it's like to watch

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Speaker 1: film with Tom Brady.

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Speaker 2: The depth of which he would watch film and the

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Speaker 2: things that he would find.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot to take it playing for nine different teams.

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Speaker 2: I played in the three family trees, the Airhart Perking system,

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Speaker 2: the West Coast, the North Turner Air Coriol system, and pulling.

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Speaker 1: Off the biggest road come back in the regular season

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Speaker 1: in NFL history. Feeling in the locker room after that game,

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Speaker 1: it was like we had won the Super Bowl and

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Speaker 1: we're pulling back the curtain on how players on different

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Speaker 1: teams interrout this week's Chill Zone presented by Corners Lake.

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Speaker 1: You got to stick around to the end. Let's go

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Speaker 1: games with the names and production of iHeartRadio. October fifth,

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, LP Field, Nashville, Tennessee. With two minutes and

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Speaker 1: fifty five seconds left in the first half, the Browns

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Speaker 1: trail the Titans twenty eight to three. What but Brian

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Speaker 1: Hoyer is about to turn this massacre into a miracle.

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Speaker 1: This is the ogre just like Brian will be here

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Speaker 1: in a few minutes, But first we need to hit

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Speaker 1: the Duncan pregame where we fuel up on Duncan and

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Speaker 1: make sure we're ready for the interview. Where's my got

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Speaker 1: my nice coffee in here? I got a little ice

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Speaker 1: and cool. Jack, how much refreshers I got drink?

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Speaker 3: I am mister refresher. I have been refreshed all week. Man,

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Speaker 3: this is I mean, we're in triple digits territory at

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Speaker 3: this point.

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Speaker 1: Triple digits of what refreshers? Triple digits Sunday. That's hondy.

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Speaker 1: We need count. Can you how many dons have you

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Speaker 1: had this week? No? Man, I've been going kind of easy.

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Speaker 1: I've eaten three maples and two munchkins, and one was

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Speaker 1: on those on the decathlon. The decathlon, Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: the kathlon. We count, We're counting munchkins. I might have

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Speaker 1: a problem here. I literally have drinking like seven cups

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Speaker 1: of coffee a day though, yes, and then like I'm

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Speaker 1: so tired after our days and I'm like so like

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Speaker 1: I get to my bed and I want to fall

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Speaker 1: asleep because of the fucking eight hundred grams of caffeine

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Speaker 1: that I have. I just sit there like tired in

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Speaker 1: Why is it's not working? Remember to get filled up.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you this. She'll fill you up. This, She'll

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Speaker 1: fill you up. I've only had two donuts. Don't ask

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Speaker 1: me how many wake up raps I've had, though? What

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Speaker 1: they have those down there? The egg cheese, the legg

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Speaker 1: and cheese, bacon really underrated item.

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Speaker 3: I've been doing jelly, maple, blueberry glaze, pumpkin, Oh, all

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Speaker 3: the sprinkles, all jobs like strawberry.

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Speaker 1: I like the blueberry with donut. Yeah, blueberry or a

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Speaker 1: strawberry blueberryluberry. But it's a little red in there. I

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Speaker 1: pumpkin one. I didn't. I didn't know. I just inhaled

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Speaker 1: that stuff the season. And then I had the fringe

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Speaker 1: crowler last night. That was my night. Yep, pretty good curler,

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Speaker 1: pretty good. The croller. I think that's what Brian Hoyer is.

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Speaker 1: If he's a donut, he's a croller. He's French, Germans, German,

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Speaker 1: I know, but still the closest thing to say, I

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Speaker 4: Best moment so far or best moment to wrap up

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Speaker 4: the dunk in that house.

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Speaker 1: Well, I just wanted the best moment was that German

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Speaker 1: that accent? I thought it was like I liked Matt's dog.

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Speaker 1: That's a beautiful dog. Yeah, what kind of dog? Some

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Speaker 1: the same beard. They have the same twins. It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: You look like your dog man. That's what they all say.

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Speaker 1: That's right. You don't start you end up looking like

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Speaker 3: I got the same gray hairs, looking like twins. I

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Speaker 3: think my favorite moment. I'm a a shot fiend.

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Speaker 1: It's been fun. I've been getting shots up.

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Speaker 4: I woke up one morning and there was literally nine

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Speaker 4: hundred and ninety nine shots taken.

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Speaker 3: Yep, that was by our boy Matt. Where downstairs the

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Speaker 3: Papa shot? It gets to nine ninety.

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Speaker 1: Where do you see the number? You can hear the

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Speaker 3: I didn't see that. Yeah, we've been shooting. Yeah, we've

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Speaker 3: just been shooting for the love of the game. Yeah

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Speaker 3: you can keep scoring on that bad boy.

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Speaker 1: Uh. In the decathlon, so three events raining jimp triathlon.

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Speaker 1: Who doesn't have the alliteration. I heard someone put a

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Speaker 1: twelve there, but no one has saw the number. And

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Speaker 1: I did twelve. I did twelve? Who was there? Billy

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Speaker 1: saw the back half? I just was like I was

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Speaker 1: like if there was a back half, there wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: twelve seconds. Hold On, who was timing? Hold On, no

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Speaker 1: one was timing. I was like, Oh, I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: this to cathl On Jack just did it. No one's timing.

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Speaker 1: I just went one, one thousand and two, one thousand

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Speaker 1: and three puts in. Yeah, it was the first putt

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Speaker 4: And then are you like worried that I'm not going

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Speaker 1: So I hate a lot. You've been very parks this

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Speaker 1: had powdered donut around you, and I know you're for

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Speaker 1: a fact you're not swallowing that in under eight secondskin And.

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Speaker 4: I didn't do Munchkin because I scouted. I did a

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Speaker 4: small glaze because I knew that would be faster. No, you,

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Speaker 4: it's the you know what if if my dunk in

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Speaker 4: the cathlon time is the same as Deon Sanders for two.

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Speaker 1: I'll take it.

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Speaker 3: I also did a three sixty windmill dunk in the

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Speaker 3: I saw it on saw but I did it.

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Speaker 4: It was a tough look for the nuthouse crew. I

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Speaker 1: Guys were back there.

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Speaker 4: You know, the team was back there shooting shots five

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Speaker 1: Before you fucking football guys, that's right. Plus I had

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Speaker 1: just run my three minute miles, so I was pretty guest,

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Speaker 4: Over the years of our relationship, I feel like I've

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Speaker 1: You have, I have.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, in the duncan, the catlin, I gotta

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Speaker 1: Who's the game? I just who was timing? In my head,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a handtime. It's a hand time. In my head,

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Speaker 1: it was one putt.

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Speaker 4: It was it was one putt that in my right

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Speaker 4: in and then duncan down. It could have been sub ten,

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Speaker 4: I believe it, but I've been it could have been

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying you are the only one that wasn't

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Speaker 1: But Billy's Billy's sandbagging.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, from the start of the fit, you must

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Speaker 3: have quit, and you've.

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Speaker 1: Been dodging me on Sastos. By the way, excuses, here's

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Speaker 1: the excuses. I mean, I did go set the record

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Speaker 1: at the calf when I'm not supposed to be doing this.

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Speaker 1: You get young Wing Gretzky with the Wristers. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: Oh, okay, that's that's unfilmed.

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Speaker 3: I will say, though, everyone was there, all right, I

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Speaker 3: the winner thirty two.

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Speaker 1: Everyone was there. But it's been great. Let's go uh,

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Speaker 1: great interview. Let's go. Welcome to Games with Names. Today,

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Speaker 1: we have a very special guest to go over a

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Speaker 1: very special game, one of the specialist games in the

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Speaker 1: history of my life. We're going over the twenty eight

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Speaker 1: to three game with Brian Hoyer. Brian, in one sentence,

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Speaker 1: why did you pick the twenty eight to three game

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Speaker 1: when you know we already did it five times.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think it's the same twenty eight three

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Speaker 2: game you're thinking of. I think it's my own twenty

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Speaker 2: eight to three comeback. We did it first in Cleveland,

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Speaker 2: largest road comeback in NFL history.

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Speaker 1: I thought, Oh, they didn't tell you. Oh I didn't

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Speaker 1: really I didn't read this is then we ech have

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Speaker 1: on twenty eight to three game Browns versus Texans in

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Speaker 1: Week five of twenty fourteen, another twenty eighth to three game.

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Speaker 1: What the og the og? Hey guys had to show

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Speaker 1: you guys the way all right? In one sentence? Why

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Speaker 1: this game? Look? For me personally, this was probably one

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Speaker 1: of the greatest moments of my career.

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Speaker 2: I know it's not gonna be the greatest game of

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Speaker 2: all time, but uh, to come back to twenty eight

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Speaker 2: to three, and oddly enough, as I'm sitting there watching

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Speaker 2: you guys, I'm like, I know they could do it.

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Speaker 2: I know someone who's done it before, and I have

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Speaker 2: had a lot of faith in you guys coming back

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Speaker 2: from that because I had done it before. And like

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Speaker 2: I said, just one of the one of the biggest

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Speaker 2: you guys, but I wasn't not on the field, and

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Speaker 2: so for me, that was that was pretty amazing. The

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Speaker 2: feeling in the locker room after that game wasn't I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's clips of me doing I don't know what kind

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Speaker 6: It was like.

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Speaker 1: It was like we had won the school that's not

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Speaker 1: dancing toy it was. It wasn't too bad movement, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: movement movement for a white guy. I mean it was Okay.

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Speaker 1: Did you actually think of this game during the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl fifty one? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I was thinking of this driving over here and I

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Speaker 2: can't remember who it was, but at halftime someone had

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Speaker 2: texted me and was like, what do you think do

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Speaker 2: they have a shot?

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Speaker 1: And I was like, well, first of all, of course

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Speaker 1: they have a shot. I know the guys over there.

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Speaker 2: I know Bill Belichick, I know Tom, I know the Julians,

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Speaker 2: the Dolas, like the people in that locker room. But

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Speaker 2: in my mind, I was like, man, if the Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Browns can do it, I know that these guys can

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Speaker 1: Tom did the same thing.

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Speaker 2: I always but I think it was a pretty wise decision.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I did, and people want to fuck

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Speaker 2: I mean I still to this day have have stuff

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Speaker 1: That's honestly one of the things you missed the most

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Speaker 1: golf bag. It's freaking crazy. Now, what's life been like

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Speaker 2: mean that's huge. Due I watched it Sundays.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, gee, I mean, look, I wanted to not

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Speaker 2: your dad's. Film this is a great. No when you

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Speaker 2: because you. Used, HONESTLY i remember this.

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Speaker 1: most catchable. BALLS i don't care what anyone. Says he

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Speaker 2: YOU i try to tell them there's more to playing

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Speaker 2: like that's the one thing operationally You that's WHY i

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Speaker 2: Football LIKE i want you to be able to set the,

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Speaker 1: Well you got to tell, them you, know personnel groups,

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Speaker 2: Buddy, look this is what made you so great was

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Speaker 2: we'd walk through the, Route and, HONESTLY i think it

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Speaker 1: mean just that. Studying, yeah we used to study together

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Speaker 2: Were watching, us, Right AND i remember being in there

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Speaker 1: Nowhere it wasn't. Plans you're in there with the big. Dogs,

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Speaker 1: YEAH i, know it's one. Thousand well people. Don't people

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Speaker 1: forget you know who the quarterback hoy beat out to

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Speaker 1: be the Backup kevin.

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Speaker 1: REMEMBER i don't know if he THOUGHT i, thought BUT

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Speaker 1: i don't think there was any like, animosity animosity between you,

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Speaker 1: what's best for the. Team, Yeah, no it's crazy that

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Speaker 1: thankfully we still have a good relationship and talk from

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Speaker 1: AND i always bring it to, you like When hoyer

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Speaker 1: okay you gotta be ready to. Play it's like a

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Speaker 1: can talk to with his. Problems like it's a whole different.

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Speaker 2: to four YEARS i was just. LEARNING i MEAN i

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00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,560
Speaker 2: look back, Now jules and you mentioned beating Out kevin,

430
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,680
Speaker 2: O'Connell like that was the year After tom come back

431
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 2: from this huge acl and there was no WAY i

432
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,400
Speaker 2: was ready to. Play it's JUST i MEAN i look

433
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 2: back at like how LITTLE i knew WHERE i. Was,

434
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,639
Speaker 2: Fundamentally my fundamentals weren't very. Good and you, know just

435
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 2: by good, PERFORMANCE i ended up being the. Backup but

436
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 2: those first three to four YEARS i didn't really do

437
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,119
Speaker 2: much For TOM i, MEAN i was just, learning just

438
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 2: soaking it all, in and you, know it was more

439
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,440
Speaker 2: like just be ready to play and don't get in his.

440
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 1: Way but then you, KNOW i go.

441
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 2: OFF i play a lot of, football different, teams learn

442
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,199
Speaker 2: about myself as a, player get. Better and then came

443
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 2: back in twenty seventeen AND i felt LIKE i actually

444
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,879
Speaker 2: could provide some assistance to, him, like, hey WHEN i

445
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,639
Speaker 2: was playing In San, francisco we ran this, play or you,

446
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 2: KNOW i really learned about his zone coverage From Kyle,

447
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 2: shanahan like you, know this is how That seattle three

448
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 2: is trying to. Play and we had a different relationship

449
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 2: at that, point which was, great but you're right like

450
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 2: at that point he was a little bit. Older REMEMBER

451
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 2: i was practicing almost Every, wednesday Sometimes, thursdays which was

452
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 2: great for me BECAUSE i got the reps that made

453
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,679
Speaker 2: me really believe That i'd be ready to play IF

454
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:02,959
Speaker 2: i had.

455
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 1: To but it was a different role. Then it was

456
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,120
Speaker 1: more it was less like mentor.

457
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 2: Learning it was more Like i'm here with him And

458
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 2: i'm helping with ideas that he's coming over the sideline

459
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,239
Speaker 2: what you see on that. PLAY i didn't really get

460
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 2: asked that a, lot you, know first three years of

461
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 2: my career from.

462
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 1: Him you, know it reminds me a lot like with

463
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 1: with that. Situation it's like a head coach that gets

464
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 1: fired that becomes a DC oc on a. Team it's

465
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 1: so great for that head coach that hires him to

466
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 1: be able to bounce ideas off each other because he

467
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 1: has experience of running the. Ship he knows through his

468
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,360
Speaker 1: experience of different, situations which you had that experience as

469
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 1: a starting quarterback that you could, say, Hey, tom when

470
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 1: we played him like, this ye you, know that's just

471
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: such a huge help for a. Quarterback information is, gold

472
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: and that's what you were WHEN i saw you as a.

473
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 1: Backup you had great. Information whenever there was like like

474
00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 1: Those Wednesday thursday practices That tom if he didn't want

475
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 1: to you, know if he you, know he was getting that,

476
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: Whatever like the offense still. Clicked we can still get work.

477
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 1: Done it wasn't like it was a fucking we couldn't

478
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 1: get the plague, call we couldn't get the right.

479
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 2: Throw and early, ON i don't know if you remember,

480
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 2: this but there was an instant probably like first second

481
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 2: your moss was still. There so it had to be

482
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 2: first season and it was late In november Early. December

483
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 2: it was cold as, shit the wind was Houd we

484
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 2: were in a stadium practice And tom had to take

485
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 2: the day. Off was that was the playoff, Game so

486
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 2: this is the first THIS i know what you're talking.

487
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 2: About that's when he fucked his thumb. Up but this

488
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 2: is like our rookie rook, year And tom had to

489
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 2: take the day, off he was nursing the injury whatever it.

490
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: Was AND i went out. THERE i probably completed fifty

491
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 1: percent of the passes and we Get we pull up

492
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: the team meeting.

493
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 2: After practice And bill's, like Where's? Hoyer And i'm kind

494
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 2: of linger in the.

495
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: BACK i walk for.

496
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 2: It he's, like how do you expect our team to

497
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 2: have a good practice when you come out here and

498
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 2: completely suck it?

499
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 1: Off AND i was, like oh.

500
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 2: Shit but it was literally like one of those practices

501
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 2: where you went to throw a go ball and the

502
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 2: wind just carried it out of. Bounce, yeah it was

503
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 2: not my finest, moment but that was probably one of

504
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 2: the first TIMES i ever had to step in For.

505
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,479
Speaker 2: Tom but to your, point you go back and NOW

506
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 2: i come back in twenty, seventeen that was WHAT i

507
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 2: had been accustomed. To i've been a starter in three different,

508
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 2: places SO i knew what it was like to go

509
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 2: out and have a good practice and make sure the

510
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 2: team kept, running which you know that it was great

511
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 2: work for, Me it was great For tom to get

512
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 2: the rest he, needed the. Recovery and to your, POINT

513
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 2: i never wanted practice to take a step.

514
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: Down yeah you. Can't was it the Most bill ever

515
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: gave you? Something was that like the biggest? ONE i

516
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: mean there was a few in those in those little light,

517
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: meetings there. Was there was the.

518
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 2: One Remember tom broke his middle finger messing Around isaiah's

519
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 2: standback before The miami game our rookie, year AND i was,

520
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 2: like there's no way this dude's playing like broken middle.

521
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 2: Finger but you know there Was alex working on it

522
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 2: and he ended up. Playing we lost down In. Miami

523
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 2: he threw for like three hundred and fifty. Yards and

524
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 2: so the next DAY i was doing In, MIAMI i,

525
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 2: KNOW i was doing an event At, reebok like a charity,

526
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: event and some reporter was there it was, like, hey

527
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 2: we Saw tom's was on the injury, Report like did

528
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 2: you think you were gonna have to? Play AND i

529
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: basically said, like look Like tom's as tough as they.

530
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 2: COME i knew he was gonna be ready to go

531
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: blah blah. Blah the next day in, Meetings bill's, like

532
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 2: why don't you just Let tom speak for himself and

533
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,959
Speaker 2: you just worry about, Yourself like you don't need?

534
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: To are you in his? Body do you know how

535
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: his finger? Felt and SO i mean you learn real.

536
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: QUICK i, mean, hoy if anyone would be In tom,

537
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: noo there's a, LOOK i didn't follow him out To.

538
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 2: California, look there's not two people more who Followed tom

539
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 2: around more than you AND.

540
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: I and LIKE i, SAID i think it was a

541
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 1: wise that we played. Forever.

542
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 2: YOU i, MEAN i learned so much and was able

543
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 2: to implement it WHEN i, played which is WHY i

544
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 2: played as long AS i. Did you became you, know

545
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: his go to, receiver the guy he trusted super WEM.

546
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 2: Vp so, uh those were wise business. Decisions people can

547
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 2: hate on us all they, want BUT i think the

548
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: resumes speak for themselves and and and to your, point

549
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 2: when when you're in a spiring, athlete you find someone

550
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 2: who's doing it the right. Way and luckily for us

551
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,239
Speaker 2: it wasn't Just. Tom we had guys Like Matt, light

552
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: WHO i know you had in, Here kevin Falk. BRUSKI i,

553
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: mean so many guys that we could watch as young

554
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: players and say that's the right way to do.

555
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: It one thousand. Percent what's it like watching film With?

556
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 1: Tom what did you take from learn like watching film

557
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 1: in the quarterback room With Tom brady that you took

558
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: on when you became a, starter or that you used

559
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 1: when you were a backup or. Anything how was film

560
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: session With Tom? Brady it's it's amazing how he sees,

561
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: film you know WHAT i. Mean and as a young,

562
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: player you come, In i'm all, Right i'm gonna watch this.

563
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 2: Film i'm gonna watch like the offensive Plays Like, no

564
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,239
Speaker 2: he's he's watching four techniques of. Corners he's, like all,

565
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 2: right the stars. Inside that's given me the read that

566
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: it's going to be covered. Too now he's, outside it's

567
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: gonna probably be covered. THROUGH i mean the depth of

568
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 2: which he would watch film and the things that he would.

569
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: Find LIKE i said to, me that first TIME i

570
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 2: backed him up was learning. Mode and so then WHEN

571
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: i went out and had an opportunity to be a

572
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: starter of my, own it gave me a good foundation

573
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 2: of HOW i wanted my routine to. Be how, Like,

574
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 2: OKAY i, know earlier in the week he's just gonna

575
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: watch a bunch of, games and then when it gets To,

576
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: wednesday he's getting the cut ups of early, downs and

577
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: Then wednesday night it's third. Down you, know you're breaking it.

578
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: Down it's it's a lot to take. In and then

579
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 2: the other thing. TOO i remember as a as a,

580
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 2: ROOKIE i forget who we were. Playing i'm, like, Oh

581
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 2: i'm gonna watch this. Game he's, like don't waste your

582
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 2: time with. That their offense is absolutely different from, Ours

583
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 2: like the way that The ravens played them is going

584
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 2: to be totally. Different you got to find teams that

585
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 2: run a similar system to us or similar, places.

586
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: Do, businesses businesses being fellas this same, cars just different license, plates.

587
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: That's, right, yeah, Yeah but it's, funny, like you, know

588
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 2: for me growing up in our, system in our, offense

589
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: and then the first TIME i went OUT i played

590
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 2: For Kyle, shanahan completely, different.

591
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: Completely the differences between The Charlie weiss system that evolved

592
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: to the McDaniels billy, oh whatever you want to call,

593
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: it and The West coast system that came From Bill

594
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: walsh in his running stands all that we could.

595
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 2: Turn this into before our show if we wanted. To but,

596
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: honestly the one thing that was unique about my career

597
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 2: WAS i played in the three family. Trees there's The

598
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 2: Aarhart perkins, system there's The West, coast The Bill walsh

599
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 2: and then there's The North turner kind of the air coriol.

600
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: System AND i got a taste of them.

601
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 2: All but the thing about The patriots, system it really

602
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: put the onus on the, players. Right they taught you

603
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: how to, React they taught you how to think for,

604
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: yourselves and you went out there and we had, alerts

605
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: we had, audibles we had change the, protection changing, route changing,

606
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 2: routes all of these. Things whereas The West coast is

607
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 2: really you talk about they're the. Same what is the

608
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: same license? Plates they're just changing the. Number like it's

609
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 2: a lot of the same, plays but they dress them.

610
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: Up a lot of a different. Way, motions motion, shifts

611
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: try to snell, groups, yeah to try to make the

612
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: defense communicate, late but really run the same. Plays and so.

613
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: To, ME i had a lot of success In kyle

614
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 2: system because it was a lot of run play, action

615
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: quick game empty things THAT i was really good at

616
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 2: and to, me IF i ever become a, coach which

617
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: is probably not gonna, happen blending those two systems together

618
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: if you can do, it because it takes a certain

619
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 2: skill set of offensive line to run that off outside

620
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: zone as opposed to like our system where you're really

621
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 2: true dropback protection, guys bigger guys.

622
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: Who have to keep the pocket.

623
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 2: Clean like to, me melding those two things, together WHICH

624
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 2: i Think kevin O'Connell has done a little bit In.

625
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: Minnesota WHEN i watch, him you see a little bit

626
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: of that. TOGETHER i think it's it's a great. Idea but,

627
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: YEAH i learned a lot from being in all those different. Trees,

628
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: well what Makes shanahan such a good? Coach kyle is

629
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 2: so meticulous in game. PLANNING i mean he literally locks

630
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 2: himself in his office and he watches film and he's

631
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 2: coming up with a. SCRIPT i mean it was first, fifteen,

632
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: always first, fifteen, always but this is this is AND

633
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: i always gave me what is the first Fifte so

634
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: first fifteen come up with plays that really you know

635
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: are going to, work and you're trying to script the game.

636
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: Out and this is Where KYLE i thought was really.

637
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: Good by breaking down, film knowing, tendencies all of those.

638
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: Things he would come up with fifteen plays to really

639
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: get the team.

640
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: Off to a fast.

641
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: Start we talk about fast start and when you think about,

642
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: it it's kind of a great idea to really script

643
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: it and try to go in with your team knowing

644
00:28:59,520 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: what's going to.

645
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: Happen, now we didn't always do that In New. England

646
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: we had a, group, right we, Had so there's the first,

647
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: fifteen which all The West coast. Do we had a

648
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: group of like eight to ten plays that we would

649
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: pull from according to what they were doing on. Defense

650
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: so we had we had smoke screens to see and

651
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: feel how they were gonna play us for a few

652
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: while for the for the first drive right.

653
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: Too, Yep, Yeah So kyle would script. Those and you

654
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: know the thing With kyle is he's obsessed with the run.

655
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: Game that was the one THING i, noticed like this

656
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: guy's given forty five fifty minute run game meetings as

657
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: the head coach of the forty nine, ers and you

658
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: realize that's where the basis of that offense comes. From

659
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: WHERE i would say With New, england it's precision, passing

660
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 2: really good dropback. Protection and then our run game really

661
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: varied from week to, week like we're gonna run gap this,

662
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: week or we're gonna run lead or. Whatever but like

663
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: That West coast, system everything is built off outside. Zone

664
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: then you come to inside. Zone you might have a

665
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: few power, plays but the play, actions the boots that

666
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: came off of, that Which i've always been a good

667
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: thrower of the football on the, run which really.

668
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: Suited for me in in this, game we're going to talk, About, wow,

669
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: now what's the key to developing a quarterback in The

670
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: National Football.

671
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: League it's funny you, ask like What i'm doing? NOW

672
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: i do SERIOUS xm radio On thursdays With Solomon wilcotts and,

673
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 2: yeah With David. Andrews but he has a great term

674
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: for quarterbacks and. Development he's, like they got to grow

675
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 2: in the right. Garden AND i think now more than,

676
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 2: ever we're seeing guys Like Sam, Darnold Baker, mayfield guys

677
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: who are. Surgeons, yeah like and and when you look

678
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: at their, careers they weren't always in the best situation

679
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: or garden right and AND i think a lot of

680
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 2: the quarterback position is about being in the right place

681
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: at the right. Time and having the people around, you

682
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: not just the, players but the, coaches the. Foundation AND

683
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 2: i think sometimes young, quarterbacks especially if you're drafted, high

684
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,719
Speaker 2: you're not going to the best, team and now all

685
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: of a, sudden maybe those, coaches there's a lot of,

686
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: turnover and it's it's not really you, know.

687
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: A good situation to develop a.

688
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: Quarterback and so LIKE i look at a guy Like Josh,

689
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: ALLEN i, mean early, on people aren't really sure what

690
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: it was going to. Be and now he's become in my,

691
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: opinion probably the best quarterback in THE, nfl just by, work, repetition,

692
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: continuity and you, know it's it's not always an exact.

693
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: SCIENCE i think you've got to have the right people

694
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: around the. Guy now Is Drake may in the right?

695
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: Garden? Now he? IS i believe he. Is so there's

696
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: a lot of miracle grows that. Mcdame you, Know josh

697
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: probably even better THAN i. DO i MEAN i spent

698
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: a lot of time with, him but you play with

699
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: him a lot. Longer josh is probably the best play

700
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: Call i've ever been, around who sees the players he

701
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: has and builds the offense to suit their. Strengths and

702
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: SO i think that year off and spending some time

703
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: with some college, offenses going out and really, reevaluating and

704
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: now you get pair With Drake. May he's never had

705
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: a quarterback like, this a guy that he can run some,

706
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: rpo some zone. Reads SO i, think, look you're never

707
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: going to see that in the, preseason But i'm excited to,

708
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: see especially a little revenge game For josh right opening

709
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: game against The. Raiders raiders and from by all, counts

710
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: and LIKE i, Said i'm more tied into local covering

711
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: The patriots. Here this kid is a pretty special, kid is?

712
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: HE i think what makes him? SPECIAL i look at his,

713
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: attitude AND i think he's kind of got an attitude

714
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: where it's like nothing's going to phaze. Me like IF

715
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: i make a, MISTAKE i move on to the next,

716
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: one which is huge for a young quarterback to have

717
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: that short. Memory short, memory and he made a lot

718
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,239
Speaker 1: of mistakes last, year but he also made a lot

719
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: of plays that made you look and say, wow like

720
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: if he can really eliminate the mistakes and keep, progressing

721
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: WHICH i think Having josh McDaniels in, there you know

722
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: how Meticulous josh, Is he's not going to let bad football.

723
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: Persist so what's it like watching film With. Josh you,

724
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: know we. Didn't we didn't always watch a ton of

725
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: film With. Josh it was when we were in there With,

726
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: josh it was really going over the, reads it was

727
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: really going over.

728
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: Protections SO i guess there was a part of, film

729
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: but it was really, specific, like, hey this this, week

730
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: The blitz, package we got to nail this And. Membory

731
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: we'd have Those blitz, meetings we'd have Those blitz pick.

732
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: Up but really watching the film was pretty quick With.

733
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: JOSH i think that was a big part of it

734
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: was he knew That tom AND i were doing that

735
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: on our, own and we we kind of knew how

736
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: to handle, that and so we had limited time with,

737
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: him so it was, like, hey here's the run.

738
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: Game these are the mic. Points that was a big

739
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: thing because that changed from week to.

740
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: Week But i'll say, This josh's notes that we would

741
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,959
Speaker 2: get And i'm pretty sure you guys would get him.

742
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: Too if there was ever a coach where they, said,

743
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: look you have to come in On sunday and you

744
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: haven't watched any, film you haven't, practiced but you have these,

745
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: NOTES i could play a.

746
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: Game.

747
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 2: YE i, mean that's how that's how meticulous and how narrowed.

748
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: Down it was, like what explain? That how so we

749
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: would get these we get these notes? Edgy, YEAH i mean.

750
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: Not it was kind of, like this is how we

751
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: want to win the. Game, YEAH i mean, basically yeah it.

752
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: Is and it would be the keys of the game

753
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: players we want to make sure we. Handle and then

754
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: it would get down to like the reads impact, players impact.

755
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: PLAYERS i, mean you know, this and and you only

756
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: played For New, england so that's all you. KNOW i

757
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: played for a lot of other, organizations And i'd be,

758
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: like that's. It this is all you're giving, us that's.

759
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: All that's the only's That's friday practice is forty five

760
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 2: to fifty. Minutes and you would go in being, like,

761
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: MAN i hope it works. Out AND i don't think

762
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: we ever felt like that. Here we always felt like

763
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 2: we're going to win the game because our coaches prepared.

764
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 2: Us we had a really good week of, practice and

765
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: LIKE i said With, josh just every day you'd get

766
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: this packet And i'd go through And i'd highlight the

767
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: things THAT i thought were really meaningful to, me and,

768
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: honestly they would break down the coverages, percentage the blitz.

769
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: Percentage you'd go into the game, thinking all, right it's

770
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: third and two to. FIVE i know it's either going

771
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: to be some kind of man or they're going to

772
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 2: Play cover. Two that's really. IT i mean they may

773
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: try to change it up and Play cover, three but

774
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 2: based off of the research.

775
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: We've, done like you kind of know what they're gonna.

776
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: Do you, know, percentages, Percentages, yep it was all about.

777
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: PERCENTAGES i think some other teams it's more about let's

778
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 2: just worry about, us don't worry about the.

779
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: DEFENSE i don't think you can play football that. Way

780
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: and that was who we always kind of struggled, with

781
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: was people that would change it up completely on. Us,

782
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: yeah like when they would give us we do they

783
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: do corners over and then jump out into a three

784
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: seed and which corner's? Over you're usually playing man. Coverage

785
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 1: it's like all, right you, know but everyone knew that

786
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: we had all these formation, indicators so by the end they're,

787
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: like fuck, that we're gonna bring our corners over there

788
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: and play.

789
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: Zone remember think about In, indy but also think about

790
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: The Super bowl against The. Rams remember we game planned

791
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: for two weeks based off Of Wade phillips. Defense we

792
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 2: get to the game and they're doing exactly because they

793
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 2: knew you were a big indicator of what they were

794
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: going to. Do if we put you in, slot they

795
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: weren't going to let you block the down safety, right

796
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: so we'd motion you. Over they put the safety the other,

797
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: Way and, honestly one of the greatest team moments on

798
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: offense at least was basically scrapping the entire two week

799
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 2: game plan And josh coming. Over, remember he's, like, look

800
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 2: we got to put basically thirteen personnel in the game

801
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: if we want to Get julian the, ball because whenever

802
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: they Put James white Or rex in the, game they're

803
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: playing nickel defense and we can't really do.

804
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: It so we have that long.

805
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: Drive they Put gronk da and we Spread. Devlynn we

806
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: spread them. Out we're hitting you on Host. Chew you

807
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: Hit devlin once OR i Hit gronk down the. Scene

808
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: we ran the same play like ten. Times BUT i

809
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: think about that moment and here it. Is it's the

810
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: culmination of an entire. Season you've had two weeks to

811
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 2: prepare for A Super, bowl and you get to the

812
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: sideline and basically, say look if we want to win this.

813
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: Game we got to throw everything. Out we had to

814
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: come up with a little package and that was oddly,

815
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: enough that was the drive to win the.

816
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: Game and that's that's when you see if you have good,

817
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: coaches is when things aren't going, right they can come

818
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: up with something and give an answer right. Away and

819
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: THAT'S i felt like our coaches always did. That, yep

820
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: we'll be right back after this quick. Break you Got ernie,

821
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: Stories ernie.

822
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: NUGGETS i, MEAN i Love ernie And ernie coming in

823
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 2: and trying to teach us how to throw football was

824
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 2: always pretty.

825
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 1: Interesting can you explain?

826
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: THIS i, MEAN i remember being in the room And

827
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: ernie like it would be like a special session With

828
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: ernie and he'd have film of Like Joe. Montana i'm

829
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: back in the eighties And i'm looking At tom and

830
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: Like i'm, like this is the greatest passer of all.

831
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 2: Time like, LITERALLY i, mean Obviously i've played a lot of,

832
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: places but talk about a guy who was so particular

833
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 2: about fundamentals each, year like working With Tom, house working

834
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: with Coach, Martinez like this Is i'm thinking to, myself

835
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 2: like this guy throws the football better than.

836
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: Anyone's Guy Tom.

837
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: Brady, yeah And i'm sitting there And i'm like In

838
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: ernie showing him film Of Joe montana on how to

839
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 2: throw the, football, which by the, way throwing has changed

840
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: a lot over the. Years the WAY i learned to

841
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: throw football is so different than really WHAT i believe

842
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: in how you throw a football, Now and it was

843
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: just always funny the.

844
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: Difference well to me.

845
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: Now back in the, day WHEN i, learned it was

846
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 2: more like throw it like a, baseball like really, stride

847
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: bring that back, right like leg. Through NOW i actually

848
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 2: related more to hitting a baseball like, jumping and it's,

849
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 2: Well aaron does the. JUMP i think a lot of

850
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: guys are really trying to get the disassociation of your

851
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: hips and your, shoulder and you really want to rotate

852
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: through the ball by keeping a strong front, side as

853
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: opposed to when my first quarterback coach used to tell

854
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: me to elbow the.

855
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: Midget anyone ever teach you, that like little? Person but,

856
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: YEAH i didn't even think about, that and that's HOW

857
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: i was.

858
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: Taught it wasn't my wasn't my termino a little, person little?

859
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: Person but now it's it's more keep a strong front,

860
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: side come to. It it's pretty. Interesting BUT i always

861
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 2: in my, Mind i'm, thinking What's tom thinking With ernie

862
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: trying to show Him Joe montana film on how to throw?

863
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: Football So ernie clearly Annoyed tom sometimes right with The ernie.

864
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 2: Cards oh my, god The ernie cards WERE i Remember

865
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: he'll come in and look today because he would run

866
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 2: the scout team like we got the cross country.

867
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 6: SPECIAL i saw this guy run it At Montana state

868
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 6: in nineteen ninety two and he'd be like a triple,

869
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 6: reverse pitch it back to the. Quarterback and, honestly, UH

870
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 6: i think we can say. This we always would say With, josh, like,

871
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 6: hey we got a we got a caddy, today you

872
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 6: on the, bag because we would we wouldn't know the,

873
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 6: cards and Sometimes josh would get a sneak peak of

874
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 6: the cards and it'd be like this exotic overload Pressure

875
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 6: ernie And bill just trying to fuck us in, protection

876
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 6: and we would we would just say, like, Hey, josh

877
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 6: just we don't need to know what it, is but

878
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 6: just tell us something crazy's.

879
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: Coming, yeah so you guys are cheating on The ernie.

880
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: CARDS i don't think it's. Cheating we weren't told what it.

881
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: Was we didn't see the. Card it was more like

882
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: you may have, saw like, NO i promise. You josh

883
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: would never do.

884
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 2: That but it was like we would say, like, Hey

885
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 2: larry on the, bag like here's be the caddy, today

886
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 2: Like ernie's got the. Cards we don't know what it,

887
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 2: is and just make sure that it just doesn't completely derail.

888
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: Practice THAT'S i, mean that was honestly what it could.

889
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 1: Do and and same thing for the, Defense like you'd

890
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: be playing a team and we.

891
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 2: Get a card And i'd be, like, God, Ernie i've

892
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: never seen this play ever, before and he's, like, LOOK

893
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: i promise they did. It this guy was At South Missouri, State,

894
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 2: LIKE i, mean you talk about, research AND i don't

895
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: think he was. LYING i think he really would just

896
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: scour for. THAT i THINK i think he would AND i.

897
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 2: WOULD i, mean there was some times mccordy was so.

898
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: Pissed he'd be, like why are you throwing the ball so?

899
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: Deep i'm, like, look Dev i'm just telling you. This

900
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: come look at the. Cards this is What ernie, wants you.

901
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: Know he's, like It's. Thursday we've already ran a, Ton

902
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: like why are you throwing it? Deep on every plan,

903
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: like this is What ernie's calling. For, okay did you

904
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: ever see one of Those ernie cards that proved him?

905
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: Right did we ever get a nugget from one of

906
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: those Crazy exotic cards that, like oh shit had actually?

907
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: Happened do you remember that didn't happen? ONCE i don't

908
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: know about the Crazy.

909
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 2: EXOTICS i mean there was look that going back to

910
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: That Rams Super, BOWL i spent a lot of time

911
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: With ernie the defensive staff bill that week because.

912
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: Mcveigh's system was very similar To kyle.

913
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: System And i've told this story, before AND i remember

914
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: sitting there In, atlanta like on our off, day AND

915
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 2: i saw like an article and it was Like ram

916
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: Inside rams training camp and it was like An amazon

917
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 2: series they, did AND i was, like let me watch.

918
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: This And i'm sitting there And i'm watching it and

919
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: they had McVeigh miked up and he's calling the.

920
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: Plays i'm, like, wholla this is the exact.

921
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: Same SO i kind of would give him notes and

922
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: nuggets and And ernie we would, script you, know go over,

923
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: cards And i'd, Like, ernie they're NOT i promise, you

924
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 2: that's not how they're teaching.

925
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: It like on the slide of the, boot he's gonna

926
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: go and go in the inside. Shoulder and and you

927
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: know when you're when you.

928
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 2: Go to The Super bowl and you're not playing in the,

929
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: game sometimes you feel a little left. Out and so

930
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: to feel LIKE i contribute in some way that week

931
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: maybe felt LIKE i actually earned my.

932
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: Ring you know WHAT i? Mean, Yeah, no you. Didn't

933
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: you always did get out of. Here you earned your

934
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: part of. It. Yeah, Now so they were pretty collaborative

935
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: on when people had, information especially like like for, me

936
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: LIKE i, SAID i left and the, whole this whole.

937
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: Thing they're not Collabor were they? Collaborative?

938
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: Oh, YEAH i Mean ernie And. Bill Even bill would

939
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 2: ASK i, mean you'll love this. Story, uh this was

940
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 2: what twenty.

941
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: Eighteen i'm in.

942
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: The quarterback room With josh And tom and whoever else

943
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: was IN i think it Was Danny utling And bill comes.

944
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: In he's, like, hey, hoy let me talk to.

945
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 2: You i'm, like oh, shit you never want. That and he's,

946
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 2: like look like who might be Signing Josh? Gordon like

947
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: what do you you play with?

948
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: Him In?

949
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: Cleveland WHICH i thought was pretty, Cool like here he,

950
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: is he's trying to get. Inside bill was always like That.

951
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: Yeah he was always wanting to get, information whether he

952
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 2: thought it was, good, bad and.

953
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: Different you want to hear your, Opinion you want to

954
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: hear an, opinion and he, was you, KNOW i think

955
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: he took opinions from a lot of. PEOPLE i remember

956
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: one time we were, playing we were practicing against you.

957
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: GUYS i was In, chicago came to practice to you,

958
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: guys AND i hadn't Seen bill since he cut me

959
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: in twenty. Twelve so this is twenty. SIXTEEN i have

960
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: not seen him since four.

961
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 2: Years and here it is after practice And i'm walking

962
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: down the tunnel to go to the visitors' locker room

963
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 2: and here Comes bill And i'm, like all, right here we.

964
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: GO i don't know what this is going to.

965
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 2: Be and of course he butters you. Up, Hey, brian

966
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: you were great out there, Today like, great throw on that.

967
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: Incut hey look like you played With clowney last.

968
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: Year like what would you?

969
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 2: Say like you know they're trying to trade him to,

970
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: us and, like after the, CONVERSATION i was, like he

971
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 2: totally manipulated me to give like a full scouting report

972
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 2: On clowney AFTER i Haven't the last CONVERSATION i have

973
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: with this guy was him cutting me in twenty.

974
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: Twelve, well you clearly gave him some bad information because

975
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: we never Had. Clowney, WELL i was just being. Honest

976
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: oh what did you? Say it Was Josh, gordon so

977
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: you must have been buttering him Up.

978
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 2: Clowney i'm not saying any poor about, him but it

979
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: was like one of those things WHERE i knew he

980
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: wasn't going to be a fit For New, england you know.

981
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: What you know, what especially dns when dns come Into bill's,

982
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: system dns hate going To bill's. System, well because it's

983
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: not always about rushing the.

984
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: Quarterback and if you think about, it who was the

985
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: head coach in In houston at the time Is bill.

986
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 2: O'Brien and If bill O'Brien was trying to get rid of,

987
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: him it probably.

988
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: Wasn't going to be a good. Fit this guy was

989
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: a physical. Freak but it JUST i just it wasn't anything.

990
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: Poor it was more Like.

991
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 2: Bill, HONESTLY i don't think it would be a good fit. Here,

992
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah Now Josh, GORDON i mean you play With josh

993
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: like this guy was incredibly talented and for a, WHILE

994
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: i mean amazing run here, Right, yeah he made some

995
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: plays for us In. Chicago remember that incut In, chicago

996
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: in cut In. CHICAGO i mean he had like a

997
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: few he.

998
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 1: Had we we won A Super bowl year because of his, contributions,

999
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: RIGHT i mean That chicago game was him AND. Cp that's. RIGHT.

1000
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: Cp one of my favorite teammates of all, time one

1001
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: of the best teammates all all just a Great now

1002
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: you played for eight different. Teams did this happen a?

1003
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: Lot when coaches would girl you for information from other,

1004
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: Schemes so you're gonna laugh at this.

1005
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: TOO i would go to other places and they would,

1006
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: ask and ANYTIME i would bring up something About New,

1007
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: england they would kind of scoff at. It it was

1008
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: like they didn't want to hear ideas From New. England

1009
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: but IF i gave, it like, hey With North, TURNER

1010
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: i learned this or we did, this they would be really.

1011
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 2: Excited WHY i think there was just people hated. US i,

1012
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: MEAN i really think it's as simple as. That people

1013
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 2: Were first of, all it's very. Complicated so WHAT i

1014
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: would get in and be like, yeah and protection were

1015
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: micing and then the line they were like that's just too.

1016
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: Much or if it was past routes with, alerts like,

1017
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: hey if it's man coveras why don't we just alert

1018
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 2: and give this guy a two way?

1019
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: Go they're, like, ah that's too.

1020
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 2: Much but it was funny WHEN i would go to

1021
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 2: places And i'd be, LIKE i learned this With Kyle

1022
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: shanahan OR i learned this From North, turner people would

1023
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: really perk. Up but IF i was, like, Yeah New,

1024
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: england we would do, this it was kind of, LIKE i,

1025
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: mean we're not going to do.

1026
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: That, geez isn't that? Crazy it? IS i, MEAN i.

1027
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: Guess so WHEN i went To indy the one, Year Nick,

1028
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 2: sirianni who's out the head, COACH i got him to

1029
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: install the reader route to read it and he was,

1030
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: like they do? What AND i was, Like i'm just telling,

1031
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: you it's the most innovative Thing i've ever seen in

1032
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: the past.

1033
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: Game and what's the reader?

1034
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 2: Route, well you probably did it better than any other.

1035
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: Person but, basically you know you have man coverage and

1036
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,479
Speaker 2: we're giving you fifty three yards to. Work we're gonna

1037
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: send two guys deep outside to clear out the. Corners

1038
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 2: we know that the safety is single. High he's deep

1039
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: And jules did it better than anybody because of his.

1040
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 2: Stem he would stem in he'd get, vertical and then

1041
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: you had a great feeling for where THE dB.

1042
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:42,479
Speaker 1: Was which.

1043
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,479
Speaker 2: Look i've never played, receiver BUT i got to feel

1044
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: like that's that's a pretty hard thing to do without

1045
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: looking at him. Right and you would have a two

1046
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: way go either back out to the corner or a

1047
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 2: cross on a deep crossing. Route And i'm just telling, you,

1048
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 2: like for a quarterback to know what the coverage is

1049
00:45:58,520 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: and know that you have a guy who has that,

1050
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: route you just drop back and almost in a way

1051
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 2: you're not taught this as a, quarterback you would watch

1052
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: the rush BECAUSE i would just need to know WHERE

1053
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 2: i need to buy time because we knew you guys

1054
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: were going to win the. Route it's it's honestly one

1055
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 2: of the most innovative things in my fifteen.

1056
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: Year career THAT i ever. Witnessed the read. It the

1057
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: read it route and so you can run. Across so

1058
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: you always see the guys run the cross, routes, right

1059
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: the cross routes where you go in, six you go

1060
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: up to, twelve and then you put your foot in

1061
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: get over to twenty. Four, well you know you run

1062
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: that cross route seven times in one. Game these guys

1063
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: start undercutting the. Right so this gives you the ability

1064
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: when they see that cross route for the third time they,

1065
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: undercut you can bop out to the out and you

1066
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: can hit the fly the flag or you can hit

1067
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: a bow on. Them and so if you watch in

1068
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: like The Super, bowl which is one of the first

1069
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: times we ever installed, it, right.

1070
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 2: YEAH i mean in every Superb, yeah and Every Super

1071
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 2: bowl that we, didn't we. Didn't we didn't have it

1072
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: for the first, two that's.

1073
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: RIGHT i had it for the last one because Every

1074
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: Super BOWL i had we run these crosses and then

1075
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: these guys start running the, route say they're studying you, too.

1076
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: Yep and so when we put this thing in where

1077
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: we'd have everyone run the same, thing And i'd run

1078
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 1: that cross two times and then on the last ONE

1079
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 1: i bop it out back and guys would be you'd

1080
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: be open by.

1081
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: THIRTYE i mean it looked so ridiculous when you read

1082
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: it right and the corner like if, honestly more so

1083
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: when the corner went to undercut and you felt it

1084
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 2: and you went back, Out, yeah.

1085
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: It WAS i, mean you can't get that wide, opening

1086
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: Can how do you as a quarterback read what he's

1087
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: going to be doing.

1088
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 2: The one thing THAT i learned because this, was like

1089
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: to your, point this was not part of the offense

1090
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: my first four. Years so it was WHEN i came

1091
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: back in twenty, seventeen and the first ONE i ever

1092
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: saw ran was actually By cookie AGAINST i think it

1093
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 2: was against The steelers from the. Outside that Was, beaver, Right,

1094
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 2: beaver and so we could run it from the inside

1095
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: or the. Outside and the one thing as a, quarterback

1096
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 2: it's really goes against everything you ever do, because LIKE i,

1097
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 2: said you know you're going to have extra. Protection so

1098
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: that's What josh is great. At, Right Like i'm gonna

1099
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 2: chip and slam BECAUSE i KNOW i have a deeper.

1100
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: Route chip and. Slam what is?

1101
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: That so running back hitting the defensive end coming down

1102
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: help there you go and slam by the tight. End

1103
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: but for, quarterback you would almost watch the rush to

1104
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: make sure you knew you were safe because he's gonna

1105
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 2: have time to go and work this, route and you

1106
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: didn't want to throw this with. Anticipation you wanted to

1107
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 2: see him break out of the route and then throw

1108
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: it because, honestly you knew if he ran the route

1109
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: the right, way he was going to be opened by ten,

1110
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 2: yards so you didn't have to anticipate.

1111
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: It, all which he's insane in the, nia just reacting

1112
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: to what he's actually. Doing it's a backgard.

1113
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 2: Football you know the clips Of tom where he's just

1114
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: sitting there like, this which no other quarterback.

1115
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: Does, Right it's because he.

1116
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: Knew ALL i gotta do is Let julian win Or

1117
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 2: dola win or A cookie win or whatever it, is

1118
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 2: and Then i'm just gonna throw. It he's gonna be

1119
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: so wide. OPEN i don't really have to worry about.

1120
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: It everything's cleared. Out we're clearing out the Entire it

1121
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 2: really turned the game into one on.

1122
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: One it was one on, one seven on. Seven, yeah

1123
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: is that why you? Ate it's fifty? Three that was

1124
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: that was on leave had one four. Times, yeah that

1125
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: Was robi to. Leave. Yep we. Did we did a,

1126
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: beaver we did a read it. Yep and then you

1127
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: could stem those up with your under routes because all

1128
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: that six yard stem when you're going, in they don't

1129
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: know if you're gonna go there or you're gonna go.

1130
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: Up so that's the thing about McDaniel's. Offense you got

1131
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: to make everything married up because there's a rhyme and

1132
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: reason and a counter for.

1133
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: Everything And jules, YOU i, mean you were pretty unique

1134
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 2: as far AS i think you had the most leeway

1135
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 2: running your routes any Because josh is very, strict very

1136
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 2: strict you have to release this, way you have to get.

1137
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 2: Leverage but because you had an understanding of like we

1138
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 2: talked about, before being a former, quarterback coverage and all these,

1139
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 2: things like, you of all the receivers THAT i ever

1140
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: played with there had the most leeway on your, release your,

1141
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 2: stem all of those.

1142
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: Things AND i think that that was because me And, Tom,

1143
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: yeah because you worked a. Lot BUT i remember when

1144
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: we'd be installing those plays On, wednesday you, remember oh,

1145
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: Yeah tom would he'd be over in his back and

1146
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: he'd gets his little water bottle just like, that and

1147
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: he's got his fucking great old man cross and he

1148
00:49:55,320 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: looked back and jeweles meet you and MEET i got, it,

1149
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: yep because he, goes you, know if it shows to go,

1150
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: here there's like four other. Ways and he'd be, like

1151
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: don't go behind the. Linebacker you, know that's What bmig

1152
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: Daniels and, like you, know if you're on the same,

1153
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: page nothing if you do it right and you complete,

1154
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: it they can't say, shit that's, right and so we

1155
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: did so many of. Those he couldn't say.

1156
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 2: Shit, well it's, like what were you on On New

1157
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 2: heights when you were telling the story about when you

1158
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 2: weren't supposed to throw To. Philly, oh this guy took

1159
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: it to the edge and for the majority of the

1160
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 2: time he was. Right so you really Couldn't you really

1161
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: couldn't say anything to. Him but that's a true.

1162
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: Story it's a true. Story, yeah the night it was

1163
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: WHEN i hit the? Throwback, yeah were you ever wrong

1164
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: in a big moment with something like? THAT i, mean

1165
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: you would know better than. ME i.

1166
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: DON'T i don't recall, Ever, like, Hey julian like went

1167
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 2: renegade and it didn't work.

1168
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: Out, Nah yeah it Was, Maverick, doc you're.

1169
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 2: Dangerous, YEAH i mean do that so everyone knows that

1170
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 2: play what it's supposed to look. Like it's the throwback

1171
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 2: to Sweet feet for that, long explain.

1172
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: It, YEAH i mean the whole.

1173
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 2: Thing we like this play up and you, TALK i,

1174
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: mean you hit it like we would do the walk

1175
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: through with the little, lacrosseball and, you of, course the

1176
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: mischievous guy you, are, like go to throw it To

1177
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 2: phil and And josh.

1178
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: Like don't you fucking, dare? Dude, literally don't you fucking? Dare?

1179
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: Yeah and and, UH i can.

1180
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: Only Imagine josh's heart rate when you threw that football

1181
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 2: and and it worked. OUT i, mean, Look, jewels there's

1182
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: there's there's, athletes and there's football, players and there's people

1183
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 2: who understand the.

1184
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: Game and credit that to your.

1185
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 2: Background you like you had a football awareness like some

1186
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 2: guys who maybe were more talented didn't just didn't, have

1187
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 2: you know WHAT i? Mean like that that awareness goes

1188
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: a long way when you're out there and ship's flying

1189
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 2: around and you can feel the.

1190
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: Game, yeah all, right what are you? Saying typing over?

1191
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: There but you do it every show? Done, NO i

1192
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 1: just GOT i didn't know what to do when When

1193
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: hoy over here was he's buttering me, Up hey, man

1194
00:51:55,200 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: dude taking Money Like i'm sitting here thinking like where

1195
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: we came. From they wouldn't realize we. Flew this is

1196
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: how when do we first?

1197
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 2: Meet two thousand and? Nine that would have been Like

1198
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 2: April may two thousand and. Nine where so this Is

1199
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 2: i'm getting. There so first of, ALL i don't get, drafted.

1200
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: But i'm gonna tell you you didn't get. DRAFTED i

1201
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: need to give a.

1202
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: Little bit of background. Here, Okay SO i GET i

1203
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 2: don't get. Drafted i'm like similar to, like you, know

1204
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 2: like what AM i gonna do with my? Life LIKE

1205
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: i bank down? Everything and my agents like go To New.

1206
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: England he's, like, look they drafted another. Quarterback BUT i

1207
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 2: don't think he's really gonna Be i'm, like they drafted a.

1208
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 2: QUARTERBACK i had no. Idea so you were probably In

1209
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 2: kent when that, happened, Right AND i was In. Cleveland

1210
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: and so we go to get on the plane to

1211
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: go To Mini.

1212
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: Caamp we go To Mini. Camp we land At. LOGAN

1213
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: i didn't my first time To New. ENGLAND i don't know.

1214
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: Where i'm, like where the Fuck's? Foxborough we're landing In.

1215
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 2: Boston we were down at The and now every TIME

1216
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 2: i go into that baggage, claim that's WHAT i think

1217
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: of as me and. YOU i think you had a

1218
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 2: tucked in shirt with some khakis, on like coming in business.

1219
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: Business my agent, said, hey they're going to hire.

1220
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: You you got to come in looking like you're, dude

1221
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: my agent and for a job. Interview my agent sent

1222
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: me a packet On Bill belichick's. Histories read this on the.

1223
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 2: Plane know about, This like you grew up In, cleveland

1224
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 2: you better know about his time as a coach. There

1225
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 2: so like we were prepped pretty. Well but that was

1226
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: our first. Meeting so that would have been Like april

1227
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 2: of two thousand and. Nine and then because we were

1228
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 2: where we, were we we got so much work.

1229
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: Together we. Did we would go extra in the bubble and.

1230
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: Throw we would see what we would See welker and

1231
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: we we would just so, like, hey you wanted to

1232
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: do some, extra you, know we just we never we

1233
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: never wanted to leave the field until they left. It,

1234
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 1: yeah and so it's pretty wild. Here you. Know seven

1235
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 1: was at seventeen years later that we're sitting here doing

1236
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: this and used to get so fucking. MAD i do

1237
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: the exact same thing That welker. Would oh my, god is.

1238
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 2: Explained, YEAH i mean like, LITERALLY i remember. That it

1239
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 2: was the old jiggle. Route that was WHAT i remember

1240
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 2: this happening. On there was a route where you talk

1241
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 2: about a two way. Go you could go, up you

1242
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: stem in, go but if you if the guy was,

1243
00:53:58,239 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 2: undercuttingy you can bounce back out.

1244
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: Or you could. Sit you could, say it was a

1245
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: lot of things play quarterbacks basically LIKE i.

1246
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: Would be there And tom would throw To, welker And

1247
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: welker would run the route and THEN i would step

1248
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 2: up and you'd step up and we do the same.

1249
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: Thing and LITERALLY i would watch and you would Do

1250
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: you would take like the exact steps like in up

1251
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 2: run the, route and.

1252
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: He'd be, Like, jules you.

1253
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 2: Can't And i'm like thinking to, myself LIKE i don't

1254
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 2: know What i'm missing, here because that looked exactly the.

1255
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 2: Same BUT i think that he was and and to,

1256
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 2: me one of the greatest leadership QUALITIES i saw From.

1257
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: Tom he knew who he could push, You. Gronk he

1258
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 2: knew who he didn't. Like IF i push this guy too,

1259
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: hard he's gonna. Break and so he rode your hard

1260
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 2: because he knew you could take. It AND i think

1261
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 2: he saw you know that there was gonna be this

1262
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 2: relationship down the. Line but he, WAS i, mean so

1263
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 2: hard on. You SO i MEAN i Remember gronk coming.

1264
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 2: In we would practice a full two hour practice And

1265
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: gronk come on ski run seams for like forty. Minutes i'm,

1266
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 2: like how is this guy even running at this?

1267
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: Point? Yeah he you gotta break him. In you got

1268
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: to drag him through the, dirt make him stick like. Mud,

1269
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: more you got to drag him through the dirt at

1270
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: a steak lag.

1271
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 4: Mud so you guys were both brought into The patriots

1272
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 4: in two thousand and nine as. Quarterbacks when did you

1273
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 4: realize he wasn't a threat as?

1274
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: SOON i mean he never played, quarterback he, NEVER i

1275
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 1: mean IMMEDIATELY i think you. DID i mean rookie. Camp,

1276
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: YEAH i. Was remember who our center was for that rookie.

1277
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: Camp who it? Was Brian. Ferentz he was a. Coach

1278
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,240
Speaker 1: he was a, coach but he had placed.

1279
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 5: Right.

1280
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 2: YEAH i don't know if he's there, anymore but he

1281
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 2: was a coach on the. Team but we didn't have

1282
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 2: enough lineman, there so he was the. Center, yeah he

1283
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 2: was the center for that mini.

1284
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: Camp do you remember how hard that mini camp? Was? Oh,

1285
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: yeah they ran us to. Death one of the.

1286
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: Greatest stories from that mini. Camp AND i told this

1287
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 2: On Billy oh's, podcast, which by the, way listening to

1288
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 2: him on yours WAS i was literally crying in. Tears

1289
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 2: but that first, night before the first, practice we had

1290
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 2: probably been there since seven. Am you do, physicals you

1291
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 2: got a team, meeting you got all the And i'm

1292
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 2: sitting there going over then the offense for the next

1293
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 2: day With.

1294
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: Billy, oh AND i think this was. PLANNED i still

1295
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: can't get it out of, him whether it was planned or.

1296
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 2: Not And billy had just got done telling, us telling

1297
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 2: me how our offense goes from the passing strength to

1298
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 2: the weak. Side so like we call gun spread right

1299
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 2: sixty six utah, Toga that's how we'd call the.

1300
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: Play so he's, like all, right strength utah on the, front,

1301
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: toga that's our. Scene so he's, like all, right let

1302
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: me go grab a cup of. Coffee so he walks,

1303
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,959
Speaker 1: out and two minutes Later bill walks. In he's, like look,

1304
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: like how's this. Going you got it. Down i'm Like he's,

1305
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: like are we going to be able to like complete

1306
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: some passes. Tomorrow i'm, like, YEAH i feel pretty. Good he's,

1307
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 1: like all, right just so you, know like everything in

1308
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: this offense is from the weak side to the strong,

1309
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 1: side so this would be like spread, right toga. Utah

1310
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: And i'm looking at him LIKE i don't know if

1311
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: this is like a, test Like i'm supposed to go

1312
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: against what he's. SAYING i was, like all, right. Coach,

1313
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: yeah got.

1314
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 2: It so Then BILLY o walks back And i'm, like,

1315
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 2: DUDE i don't know what the Fuck i'm supposed to

1316
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 2: do tomorrow because you're telling me. This the head coach

1317
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 2: is telling me, this AND i think it was like they're,

1318
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 2: like let's, see you know if this has.

1319
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: Got any shit to? Him is he is he gonna

1320
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 1: Correct Bill belichick on the first, day WHICH i. Didn't

1321
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: is fucking they just always playing Fucking jedi mind? TRICKS r?

1322
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: SHIT i, mean god. Damn let's go back into time

1323
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: where this game took. Place this game took place On october,

1324
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: fifth twenty, fourteen and go over some pop. Culture Gone

1325
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: girl was the number one movie in the theaters that's been.

1326
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: Afflack then that's a scary. ONE i love that. Movie great,

1327
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: book a little. Scary you didn't like. IT i liked. It,

1328
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: yeah those thrillers get me. There SO i don't like

1329
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i got gia kids and. Stuff, yeah and it's

1330
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: kind of it could really happen type. Thing, yeah you,

1331
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: know it's all LIKE i don't like did? THAT i?

1332
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: KNOW i don't like? It. Yeah number one song all

1333
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: about the, Bass it's all about that. Base that was my.

1334
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 2: DAUGHTER i have a video of her dancing to that

1335
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 2: when she WAS i mean, This she's was turning one

1336
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 2: On october, fifteen twenty, fourteen so she just started standing

1337
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 2: up and she's dancing to that.

1338
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: Song so we were the Super bowl Champs New, England

1339
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: Aaron rodgers was THE, Mvp Ohio state won The, natty

1340
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: And Marcus mariota was the. Heisman oh, Ay, ron how

1341
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: do we think he's gonna do this? YEAR i think

1342
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: it's a good.

1343
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 2: PAIRING i mean of one of my nine. TEAMS i

1344
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 2: was In pittsburgh AFTER i got cut in twenty twelve With.

1345
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 2: TOMAN i really Like toman as a.

1346
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: Coach and it was a short. Stint are you gonna protect?

1347
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: Him they got? LINE i mean we've been, talking i'

1348
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: mean IN tv for five. YEARS i feel like we

1349
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: talked About steelers line every. Year but is it the

1350
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: liners at the? Quarterback, well we're gonna find. Out But i'm, saying, like.

1351
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 2: You have a guy who understands to get the ball,

1352
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 2: out he's got a quick, Release like you know this

1353
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 2: better than. Anyone like you can't be a quarterback in

1354
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 2: THE nfl and just be Like i'm just gonna drop

1355
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 2: back and go, Through like you have to have an

1356
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 2: understanding of where you want to go with the football

1357
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 2: before the ball, snapped and you can, adjust but you

1358
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 2: can't hang out with the.

1359
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: Football you. Can't and you also have to have a

1360
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: play color that can if you're, struggling that line that

1361
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: can set these things. Up, yeah tell us about your

1362
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: sports fandom In ohio growing. UP i mean it. Was

1363
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: it was a lot of heartbreak Moment Ohio. State were

1364
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: you a high state? Fan SO i.

1365
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 2: WASN'T i didn't grow up watching really any collegiate. Sports

1366
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: as you mentioned downstairs. Before my real name Is Axel Axel.

1367
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 2: Fully my dad's From, germany so he didn't really he

1368
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 2: never really played.

1369
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: Football we. Didn't we love The Cleveland, browns but we didn't.

1370
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: Really we weren't like. That why you And seabats used

1371
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: to like be really in, like, YEAH i always trying

1372
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: to work My german with, him and then you guys

1373
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: would always kind of pick on. ME i, mean, look

1374
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: we had a great rookie. Class we, did really a

1375
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: lot of great.

1376
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 2: Guys but, no we didn't have any like collegiate allegiances

1377
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 2: because of probably because of.

1378
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: That, now WHEN i started to get.

1379
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 2: RECRUITED i always was cheering For Ohio state BECAUSE i

1380
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 2: was From, ohio but they didn't want, me SO i

1381
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: ended up In Michigan.

1382
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: State but it was.

1383
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: Heartbreaking as a ten year old kid to have your

1384
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 2: team leave Right cleveland, leaves they go To. Baltimore don't

1385
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 2: have a football. Team so but The indians were pretty

1386
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 2: good until they got to The World series and, lost

1387
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 2: which was. Heartbreaking The calves were never really, good but

1388
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 2: we were always hoping For lebron and they get.

1389
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: Him, yeah that was crazy when we were. There, Now

1390
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: peyton Broke Brett farre's career touchdown record with five oh

1391
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: nine game winning. Drive peyton Or? Brett who you going

1392
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: for a game winning? Drive i'm probably going With. Peyton yeah,

1393
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: YEAH i mean just cerebral understanding all of those. Things

1394
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: now you're gonna talk about throwing a. Football Brett favre.

1395
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: Unbelievable he could whip that. Thing oh my, GOD i

1396
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: remember who was it was telling us when he was

1397
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: in college where he would he would throw these balls

1398
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: and he would overthrow the receivers so like so bad

1399
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: they had in. Overhead where'd he? Go he went To

1400
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: southern Miss there was a wall in the back of

1401
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: the thing that dents in, it and you just hear

1402
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: he would throw it and he would go like forty

1403
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: yards and hit that. Thing and that's all you heard

1404
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: From Brett farr and warm it up for GAMES i grew,

1405
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: up you, know and then that was, like like you

1406
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: talk about your team that you root for. Leaves now

1407
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: you're just rooting for.

1408
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 2: Players so like far l, Way Deon sanders was one

1409
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:56,919
Speaker 2: of my favorite loved and Loved.

1410
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: Deon we'll be right back after this quick. Break all,

1411
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: right let's jump into the, Game. Jackie let's break down

1412
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: These tennessee get on The titans here real. Quick.

1413
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 3: Okay these were the Ken Wizen hunting Led titans the

1414
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 3: first year of the ken Wiznon hunt era two to.

1415
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 3: Fourteen not the Best titans team, ever first full season

1416
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 3: after losing their longtime Owner Bud. Adams there finished with

1417
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 3: ten straight. Losses Taylor lawan's rookie season shout out busting

1418
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 3: with the. Boys, yeah pretty brutal offense and defensive. Rankings

1419
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 3: fifteen point nine points a game average for the, offense

1420
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 3: letting up twenty seven point four game for the. Defense

1421
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 3: this is twenty ninth and thirtieth.

1422
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: Ranked not.

1423
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 3: Great let's get into some of these. DUDES qb. Room

1424
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 3: we're talking qbs. Today Zach, Mettenberger Charlie, Whitehurst Jordan.

1425
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: Plamer yeah he played that. Game yeah, YEAH i mean

1426
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: this was he play a Lot Forgo San. Diego.

1427
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, man he was Around Jinny Walker delaney with the

1428
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 3: boys Friend jesus huh Clipborn jesus not.

1429
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: BAD i was watching rewatching this getting ready for, this

1430
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: and he had like the long ponytail just like hanging

1431
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: out of the. Back it's pretty.

1432
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 4: Sick can you guys ever look at like the other

1433
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 4: like quarterbacks with the? Clipboards is there anything like?

1434
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: Swag? Oh he wore.

1435
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 2: This he did this contrary to, Belief LIKE i never

1436
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 2: held a, clipboard like in THE. Nfl maybe if you're

1437
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: in high, SCHOOL i don't, know but in THE nfl

1438
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 2: you could go back to like what your role.

1439
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: IS i WOULD i don't know if you remember. That

1440
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: you would be on the, field so you wouldn't remember.

1441
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 2: This BUT i would always be like thirty yards past

1442
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 2: the offense Because i'm trying TO i know the play

1443
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 2: AND i want to make sure That i'm seeing the

1444
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 2: defense so that, way when we come over the sideline,

1445
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 2: like hey on you know Crunch stock it was it

1446
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 2: was cover, Three like the guy got. Deep you good

1447
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 2: job taking the underneath, Route LIKE i.

1448
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: Was really talking through the walking through.

1449
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 2: It and the one thing that ALWAYS i had to

1450
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 2: be on alert for was If tom's helmet wasn't wasn't,

1451
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 2: working or If josh wasn't hitting the, button which was

1452
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 2: not great Because i'd be so far. Away i'd be

1453
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 2: sprinting down the sideline, Like, josh you got to hit the.

1454
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 2: Button he's not getting the. Call like there's a lot

1455
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 2: of other things than charting, Plays like when we first got,

1456
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 2: There Brian belichick chart of the, place do you remember,

1457
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 2: that he'd be next to, Me i'd get the play

1458
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 2: in my, helmet he'd write it.

1459
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: Down so, yeah IT'S i think that's kind of uh

1460
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 1: so they can go for, it, right they can go

1461
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: over the game right after the, Games, yeah right there

1462
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 1: or on the sideline we get the.

1463
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 2: Pictures, okay he's got the play written. Down i'm confirming

1464
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 2: the coverage as the play is going. On, also Like

1465
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 2: i'm playing the game, mentally like because you never, know

1466
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 2: you go in at a moment's, notice you know what's

1467
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 2: going on you can, Know Like bill would always, say

1468
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 2: the game will declare, itself all, right you know it's

1469
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 2: the scouting reports holding. True they're playing a lot Of

1470
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 2: cover one and a little bit of cover, Too so

1471
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 2: IF i go, IN i know what to.

1472
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: Expect, now when you were preparing for This titans, team

1473
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: what do you remember preparing.

1474
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 2: For, YEAH i MEAN i think for, us like this

1475
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 2: was kind of WHEN i was playing for The, browns

1476
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 2: and this was, like we're gonna do what we. DO

1477
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 2: i don't remember a lot of the preparation for other.

1478
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 2: Teams it was more like know the offense and go

1479
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 2: out and execute.

1480
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: It so Like i'm looking at this right. NOW J

1481
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: mack was a good, corner so we always had to

1482
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 1: be weary of, him which obviously you hit that long

1483
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: one on. Him he, did but there was a great.

1484
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 2: Stack there was a critical play in this game WHEN

1485
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 2: i was rewatching yesterday AND i kind of vaguely remembered.

1486
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 2: It we ran kind of an option route With Andrew,

1487
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 2: hawkins AND i thought he was gonna sit, down and

1488
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 2: he saw he Took he kind of sat and then

1489
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 2: went AND i threw it and it went To Je

1490
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 2: mack hit him right in the. Chest thankfully there was

1491
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 2: offensive or defensive holding on that, play so it got

1492
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 2: taken back because if if he picks that ball off.

1493
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: Because of our, miscommunication the game's. Over, yeah. Decisive that's

1494
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: right to be. Decisive and once you plan, him you just.

1495
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,439
Speaker 1: Stay let's go over Those Cleveland.

1496
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 3: Browns on These, browns, baby these were the seven and Nine.

1497
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 3: Browns Mike peton Led All star coaching staff. Here star

1498
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 3: studded some names you guys will know. Him Kyle, Shanahan

1499
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 3: mike McDaniel was a wide receivers. Coach Aaron glenn was

1500
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 3: a DB's coach and then ASSISTANT dB Coach Bobby, babbage

1501
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 3: and the notable rookie this year they kind of hung.

1502
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,479
Speaker 3: Over everything Was Johnny. Football Johnny manzel picked there towards

1503
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 3: the end of the first.

1504
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: Round Josh.

1505
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 3: Gordon we talked About josh a little bit. Earlier this

1506
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 3: episode suspended for a majority of this, season coming off

1507
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 3: that huge twenty thirteen.

1508
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: Year twenty thirteen year With Josh, gordon it's kind of

1509
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: Like lauren LIKE.

1510
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 2: Nfl it's wild because to be able to have the

1511
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 2: season he had with the basically the tumultuous season that

1512
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 2: The browns.

1513
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 1: Had SO i started off twenty thirteen year as the third.

1514
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 1: Quarterback Brandon WinGen was a starter and He josh was

1515
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 1: suspended the first three games of that, season and so

1516
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: in week three we DIDN'T i believe hurts his. Thumb

1517
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: AND i walk in, and LIKE i, SAID i was

1518
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: the third. QUARTERBACK i wasn't expecting to like get the.

1519
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 2: Start AND i walk in And Rob Chazinski chud who's

1520
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,919
Speaker 2: now AT bc With Billy, Oh he's, Like i'm gonna

1521
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 2: let you start this. Game AND i was, like, Okay

1522
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 2: SO i kind of leap Frog Jason Campbell ja cam great,

1523
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 2: dude and handled it so. Professionally and we go up

1524
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 2: and It's josh's first week, back and So North, turner

1525
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 2: What north's what he's known for is, deep throw the ball,

1526
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 2: deep deep in. Cuts he's, like we're gonna throw the

1527
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 2: ball To Josh gordon a, lot and sure enough we.

1528
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 2: Did he had a long touchdown on a double, move

1529
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 2: hit some big, incuts some pop, passes and then went

1530
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 2: on the next three weeks and THEN i tore my

1531
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 2: a Cl.

1532
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah it was it. Was you had a wing,

1533
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 1: streak didn't.

1534
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 2: You we have won three games in a row and

1535
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 2: then On thursday night football to a cl and But

1536
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 2: josh WAS i mean the next game Against, cincinnati cut

1537
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 2: a few big, plays same thing the following, week and

1538
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 2: it was just a quarterback rotation and through all of.

1539
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 2: THAT i, mean what was it the the receiving record

1540
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 2: for most yards in the.

1541
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 1: SEASON i think at the time he had sixteen hundred

1542
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: in thirteen. Games, yeah he's a, freak.

1543
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 2: DUDE i mean it was like literally he. Was we

1544
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:53,439
Speaker 2: actually came and played you guys that. Year you guys

1545
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 2: came back and beat us from.

1546
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: On The that was the first TRIP i. Made that's

1547
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 1: a great. Game that was a great. Game was the

1548
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 1: first TRIP.

1549
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 2: I made with the team since tear OF i cl

1550
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i came to See alex AND i was, LIKE

1551
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 2: i brought my trainer from The, browns AND i was,

1552
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 2: LIKE i want to make sure we incorporate this into my.

1553
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 2: Rehab and Remember, gordon he just threw a simple slant

1554
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 2: and just hold away from to. Leave but you, guys

1555
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 2: of course we came. Back we were, down like it was.

1556
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 2: Crazy we were downs in the last like three. MINUTES

1557
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 2: i think it was like.

1558
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 1: Two. Yeah, yeah one was definitely on our. List of. Games,

1559
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: yeah THAT'S i, mean AND i always credit that game

1560
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 1: for the twenty eight our twenty eight to. Three, Yeah

1561
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 1: LIKE i remember specifically remembering that. Game and then we

1562
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: played The saints that year and we beat him in

1563
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: the last play the. Game that's, Right LIKE i was

1564
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 1: thinking of all this ship yeah during like the, halftime

1565
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: that we could do. This we could do this of.

1566
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 2: Course and then that was the game Where gronk got

1567
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 2: taken with The browns, game yeah take them.

1568
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: Out.

1569
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 2: Yeah but Now josha WAS i mean this, season he

1570
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 2: was suspended the first ten games the, year so he

1571
01:07:58,360 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 2: wasn't he wasn't at this.

1572
01:07:59,440 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: Game.

1573
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 4: GEEZ i still Dropped Josh gordon on the hope that

1574
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 4: he that season might happen in fantasy.

1575
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: Football, no, yeah you, were you saw. Him this guy

1576
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: he was. Beast he was a.

1577
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 3: BEAST i got a weird one for, You. Brian we

1578
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 3: Mentioned Brandon whedon. Earlier was it weird playing with him

1579
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 3: as like a thirty year old?

1580
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: Rookie, YEAH i mean he. Was he was so, chill.

1581
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 1: Dude it was like he really had still like that baseball.

1582
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 2: MENTALITY i feel that like all, right, boys here we,

1583
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 2: Go like you know how we would call plays like

1584
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 2: gun trips right sixty four x option Opek like what

1585
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 2: he'd be, like all, right gun trip's, right sixty, four.

1586
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 1: Cavalier, boot all, right let's go, Boy like it was

1587
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: just like one of those. Things AND i was, like,

1588
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 1: man this is so different from What i'm used to.

1589
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 1: Exactly but he could sling. IT i, mean there was

1590
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: no doubt about that he. Could he could throw the

1591
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,759
Speaker 1: shit out of the. Ball now take this through getting

1592
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: signed and playing for The. Browns this is your hometown. Team,

1593
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 1: bro do you have like everyone at all your? Games

1594
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 1: that was? WILD i mean To i'm sure like you

1595
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 1: when you were a kid growing, up you probably wanted

1596
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 1: to play for the forty nine nine.

1597
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,560
Speaker 2: Ers and so for, me like this was like a

1598
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 2: full circle, moment LIKE i grew up Idolizing Bernie kosar

1599
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 2: and now all of a, Sudden i'm signing the team

1600
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 2: and he's calling me on the.

1601
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: Phone THEN i after the, game.

1602
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 2: Like, hey great job on that high low on The

1603
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 2: it was like, surreal but it's it's, Interesting LIKE i

1604
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 2: don't think people understand the expectation level that is expected

1605
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 2: of us as, Players Like i'm NOT i don't have

1606
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 2: any free, time and so people were, like, hey come do,

1607
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 2: this come do? That can You And you're, Like i'm

1608
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 2: just trying to figure out how to beat The.

1609
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 1: Titans LIKE i. DON'T i DON'T i HAVE i barely

1610
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 1: have enough time for my wife and. Kids, Yeah i'm

1611
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 1: so GLAD i didn't play for my hometown. Team, yeah

1612
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 1: because you probably would have been hassled all the.

1613
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 2: TIME i basically just sent out a message And i'm, like,

1614
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 2: look we get four tickets a. Game anything after, That,

1615
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 2: Like i'll try to do my, best but Like i'm,

1616
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 2: not it's not coming on my. Paycheck even at this,

1617
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 2: POINT i hadn't really hit like a quote unquote big,

1618
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 2: Contract Like i'm basically playing on.

1619
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: Minimums explain to us THIS qb room With Johnny Manzel Johnny.

1620
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 2: Football, LOOK i think a lot's been made about, This

1621
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 2: and to, ME i never there was never like an

1622
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 2: issue or animas between me And. Johnny, like if, ANYTHING

1623
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:05,560
Speaker 2: i WAS i was more frustrated with the organization and

1624
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 2: the way it Wasn't johnny's fault that The browns drafted,

1625
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 2: him and look he was he came in and we

1626
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 2: WE i wouldn't say we were best, friends but we

1627
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 2: weren't like there wasn't REMEMBER i talked about, before like quarterback,

1628
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 2: Rooms like there wasn't a lot of tension in the,

1629
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 2: room especially BECAUSE i was a starter and we had

1630
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 2: some packages For. Johnny there was actually the one play

1631
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 2: WHERE i actually threw the ball To. Johnny it got

1632
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 2: called back for like an illegal formation or. Whatever but

1633
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 2: we never had like any you, know bad bad blood

1634
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 2: or anything like.

1635
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:38,560
Speaker 1: That but how are you feeling when they go and

1636
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,640
Speaker 1: spend the? NIGHT i was pissed for the first, round you, Know,

1637
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: YEAH i. WAS i was not happy at. ALL i

1638
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: mean because you guys were six and three at this, time, right,

1639
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: yeah but in this season and, yeah look it was

1640
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: The browns are an interesting organization and the owner and

1641
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: at the, time now this came, out you can fact check,

1642
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: This like THE gm was texting coaches during the game

1643
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,600
Speaker 1: like hey do this do. THAT a lot of it

1644
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: had to do with like we should Play johnny at this.

1645
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 2: Point and so When petton actually brought me in to

1646
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 2: tell me that they were gonna bench me and Play,

1647
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 2: Johnny he's, like this is a Battle i've been fighting

1648
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 2: for a long. Time like we we've we wanted to

1649
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,560
Speaker 2: have you be the, quarterback and it's just at this

1650
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 2: point we have to we have to move in this.

1651
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 1: Direction so do you think this owner was the guy

1652
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 1: who pulled the trigger on? SHADOR i don't.

1653
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 2: Know that's an interesting one because it's like you would

1654
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 2: think you'd learn from like past, mistakes BUT i think

1655
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 2: there's probably a part where like you just can't help yourself,

1656
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 2: either you know WHAT i. Mean, YEAH i mean it's

1657
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 2: it's pretty incredible because at least they made this smart

1658
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 2: decision and went With flacco right this.

1659
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 1: Year who are some of the fun guys on this? Team,

1660
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: yeah we had some, great great teammates.

1661
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 2: Here i'm just Looking Joe, thomas Obviously hall Of, famer

1662
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 2: not just like a great, player but.

1663
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: Just like a. Dude he'd be like a guy for

1664
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 1: dudes on, dudes just like he come in do his.

1665
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 1: Business we had a little beef once ON. Tv did

1666
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: you really not? Really but it was commentating we were.

1667
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: DOING i was doing one of the thing after a

1668
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 1: game once where you go on the set and he

1669
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 1: was saying something And steve was right next to, me see,

1670
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 1: yeah and, uh he was saying something about running the.

1671
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: FOOTBALL i just looked at, him, like what are you

1672
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 1: telling us about how we supposed to. Win. Dog. YEAH

1673
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 1: i looked at, him like, Really but Then steve jumped

1674
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 1: and he goes. Jewels there you. Go, YEAH i didn't

1675
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 1: know if that was Just joe was like six, players

1676
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 1: he's got, beef will never ever show. UP i got

1677
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: beef with all of them. Too then you you would like,

1678
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 1: HIM i MEAN i would love.

1679
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 2: Him the one thing you got to realize About joe

1680
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 2: he was like a first Ballot hall Of famer on

1681
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,679
Speaker 2: a team that never. WON i, KNOW i imagine imagine

1682
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 2: going into your your job every day knowing you're the

1683
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 2: best at your position and you're probably not gonna do.

1684
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 1: Well, no like your. Team he's like a sweet dude.

1685
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: Though you can just tell he's like a sweet, man, Yeah.

1686
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,679
Speaker 1: Wisconsin like a great, guy, yeah probably freaking.

1687
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 2: Nice probably always had the young guys at his, house

1688
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 2: hosted a Great halloween party like he. Was he, was,

1689
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 2: honestly like when you think of a, team you don't

1690
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 2: want like your leader to be an offensive, lineman but

1691
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 2: just because they kind of do the dirty. Work but

1692
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 2: he was the leader of that organization for a long,

1693
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 2: time and he took that role. On like people would

1694
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 2: look to him to give the pre, practice post, practice pregame,

1695
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 2: speeches and he embraced that, role which is why he

1696
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 2: was such a good. Player but ALSO i look at

1697
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,719
Speaker 2: our little receiver group right. There we had some fast. Dudes,

1698
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 2: Travis benjamin, great real, Fast Taylor gabriel and Your Hawkins

1699
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 2: Benjamin hawk WAS i think he played with us for, camp,

1700
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 2: Right Jordan cameron phenomenal T i.

1701
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 1: Remember REMEMBER i text you when you were balling out with, him,

1702
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 1: like what's up with this? Dude you like?

1703
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,560
Speaker 2: Him, WELL i was gonna, say like you. ALMOST i

1704
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 2: tried to push for you to be a part of

1705
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:47,560
Speaker 2: this team that.

1706
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 1: Year tell me explain the. Story so this WAS i

1707
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 1: think this was the year where they had Signed, dola,

1708
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 1: right they, signed and you were pissed and you called me.

1709
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 1: Up you're, like tell Fucking, Cleveland i'll. Come they just

1710
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 1: got to just tell HIM i need an extra hundred

1711
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: grand over What New. England and SO i went straight

1712
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 1: to Like kyle to the to the head. Coach i'm,

1713
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 1: Like edelman wants to come, here like we gotta make this.

1714
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 1: Happen but you probably that was probably when you took

1715
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: the visit to The jets and they got a little

1716
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: giants got a little worried up. Here they resigned you

1717
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,839
Speaker 1: and look at, you. Guys what was this fourteen? Fifteen

1718
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: this was. Fifteen, YEAH i took The. NINERS i went

1719
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,640
Speaker 1: to The. NINERS i sat down With, harball AND i

1720
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: just recently Saw. Harball he did the exact same thing

1721
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 1: that we did when we met that. Day we just

1722
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 1: threw a dip in and we just talked about absolutely

1723
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 1: nothing other than like nothing to do with like the

1724
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 1: scheme or, anything just like. Life what kind of dip

1725
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 1: was he? Doing he was his in. Guy but he

1726
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: did take some of My copenhagen ONCE i showed him

1727
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 1: THAT i had some mint In. California, yeah you gotta restrict.

1728
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 1: Fight oh you had that contraband you, Know i'm bring that.

1729
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 1: BOOTLEG i got a. BOOTLEGGER i got a. Bootlegger, hey

1730
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 1: that was funny BECAUSE i remember you call. HIM i

1731
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: was so. Bad we we would text and stay in.

1732
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 1: Touch But i'm, like he's calling. Me this must be.

1733
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: Something you're, like fucking they're they're low balling. Me they

1734
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: just signed all like tell, Him i'll come. On that was, thirteen,

1735
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: then come, on, Man well it was this was for.

1736
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 1: THAT i. MADE i was super. Hurt, Yeah i've been

1737
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 1: grinding my balls off doing everything they say and then

1738
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 1: they just fucking go sign someone else to just do

1739
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 1: everything THAT i wanted to. Do but that's FUCKING. Nfl That,

1740
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 1: yeah that's What i'm. Saying like you And dola like thickest.

1741
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 1: Thieves we were thickest thieves. Before, yeah you know WHAT i.

1742
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 2: Mean but but, No Jordan cameron was a phenomenal tight.

1743
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 2: End he was he was like a like a true

1744
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,560
Speaker 2: receiving tight. End you didn't want him to, block you,

1745
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 2: know power or, whatever but he had some great catches

1746
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:38,600
Speaker 2: in this.

1747
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 1: Game uh let's. See Well Joe, hayden great, guy just

1748
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 1: like full of.

1749
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 2: Energy Jim, leonard who's now become a really good. Coach

1750
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 2: Jordan poyer went on to be you know those Vaunted Buffalo.

1751
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 1: Bills, yeah this is he was safety our safeties him

1752
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 1: And hide ye A. Hide we. Had we had a good.

1753
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: TEAM i, mean you, know we we fell short at

1754
01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 1: the end of the, year but we probably overperformed for

1755
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 1: for a. While the big, One Alex mack was our

1756
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 1: center and the. Best he's probably one of the best

1757
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 1: centers of all. Time and and we you don't realize. That,

1758
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,600
Speaker 1: yeah and my one of my best friend's roommate in, college.

1759
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 2: And that's system that everything ran through the center in that.

1760
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 2: System and then a few weeks later after this he got.

1761
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 2: Hurt he was out for the year and we just

1762
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 2: never could could rebound from. That those The browns could,

1763
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 2: graft they can draft. Lineman, now, yeah they've drafted some great.

1764
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 1: Lineman. Quarterbacks how many Quarterbacks i'm on that jersey jersey

1765
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 1: with every quarterback name is? Wild how many starting quarterbacks

1766
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 1: can you name from The Cleveland browns?

1767
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 2: Ship it starts With Tim, couch, RIGHT i. Believe so

1768
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 2: it's Like Tim, Couch, debt Mur Kelly, Holcombe Spurgeon, Win,

1769
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 2: oh you're right on the money. Here i'm trying to

1770
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 2: go back in. Time he's on The it's it's when

1771
01:16:55,640 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 2: Then brown's, Restarted, Restart, restart Expansion. Browns Doug JOHNSON i

1772
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 2: think is on.

1773
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 1: There Charlie frye shout out a, guy? Right who?

1774
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 2: Else Obviously, Me i'm just gonna go with the era

1775
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 2: THAT i was, There, Me Whedon, Campbell, Manzell josh, McCown Jacoby.

1776
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:22,640
Speaker 1: Brissette damn, god, dude there's a LOT i, Mean i'm

1777
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 1: not even gonna get. Happy let him keep, going let,

1778
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 1: me let me keep. Going what was the guy the

1779
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 1: quarterback from FROM usc that played there for a long.

1780
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: TIME i can't remember his Name. Usc, yeah he played

1781
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 1: for a.

1782
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 2: While he played for a. While McCoy he was there

1783
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 2: for a. While Anderson anderson.

1784
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 1: He was to come to the. Playoffs, yeah and then

1785
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 1: he went to he like. Disappeared he went To. Arizona

1786
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 1: but he's he's In. Carolina he was In. Buffalo he's

1787
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 1: a huge.

1788
01:17:56,840 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 2: Dude got. Him Now i'm losing. Track Uh, well since

1789
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 2: THEN rg Three, baker which that's. WILD i mean you

1790
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 2: talk about a. MISS i, mean to, Me baker's on

1791
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 2: the borderline of starting to become a top five. QUARTERBACK i,

1792
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 2: mean when you look at there was a there was

1793
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 2: a THING i saw and you already got on me

1794
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 2: about checking like fact Checking. Instagram but they basically put

1795
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 2: side by side stats him And. Mahomes Now mahomes has won,

1796
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 2: it but when you go by.

1797
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 1: Stats yea At baker actually has the edge Of BUT

1798
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 1: i think it's like the last two or three years or. Something,

1799
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 1: yeah but the last two or three years it has

1800
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 1: been the most magic For Patrick. Mahons, yeah because he

1801
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 1: hasn't had the. Receipts that's. True i'm not SAYING i,

1802
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 1: know but but like if you're The, browns you totally

1803
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 1: watched that. One, yeah, dude that Was it's all about

1804
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: that garden you're growing. In that's, right that's right as

1805
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 1: far as you get me you, Okay oh, god that's.

1806
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: Right for both.

1807
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 2: MCCOUNTS i got two for that, One, Dilpher, Brady, quinn Grad,

1808
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 2: Kowski Senneca, Walla, Lewis Kobe, Winston zappi.

1809
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 1: DRISCOLL i mean this Is Connor. Shaw. Connor connor was a, baller.

1810
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 1: Dude he was He i'll tell a funny story About.

1811
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 2: Connor so he had played for the old ball coach

1812
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 2: down At South, Carolina, spurrier and he played a voicemail

1813
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 2: for us one day during the training. Camp he's, like, Hey,

1814
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 2: CONNOR i know all the hypes About Johnny Manziel johnny,

1815
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 2: football but just remind Him Connor shaw could play football now.

1816
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 2: Too and it was just like here In spurrier's, voice

1817
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 2: leave his voice message with what a great?

1818
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 1: Coach, yeah a great coach MAN i never. HAD i

1819
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 1: WISH i had a. Coach it would send me a

1820
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 1: nice little message like. That, yeah he's probably shirt.

1821
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 4: Off did we touch some of these like all time college? Quarterbacks,

1822
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:51,759
Speaker 4: Uh Brady, Quinn ken, McCoy Uh Case.

1823
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 1: Keenum Seneca, Wallace, seneca P. J, WALKER Pj, Walker Jeff,

1824
01:19:56,600 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 1: Driscoll Jameis winston and so many. ISS i think it

1825
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,600
Speaker 1: says it's forty forty since they came. Back, yeah and

1826
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 1: how many years have they been back? Since? WHAT i

1827
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 1: think they left in ninety? Five they left in ninety

1828
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 1: five With bill and they went to the. Years jersey

1829
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 1: met a couple this year.

1830
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 2: Too, OH i mean, yeah there it is right. THERE

1831
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 2: i got crossed off the list that. Was that was,

1832
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 2: like they're halfway there at that.

1833
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 1: Point isn't that? Crazy that is? All? Man this could

1834
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 1: be its own. Episode just did you ever think this

1835
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:31,759
Speaker 1: staff would produce that many good? Coaches?

1836
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 5: Though?

1837
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 1: Oh, YEAH i mean WE i, KNEW i mean, crazy

1838
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 1: some of these shitty teams that have these crazy staffs

1839
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 1: that go on to be great coaches everywhere. Else, Yeah, No,

1840
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 1: KYLE i knew right right off the get. Go he

1841
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 1: was a good. Coach Aaron glenn like just the type of.

1842
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 1: Guy you're, like this guy's a former.

1843
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 2: Player he gets it high, Energy, like it doesn't shock

1844
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 2: me at all that he's become the coach that he.

1845
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 1: Has Bobby Badgitt, babbie who was just a young was

1846
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 1: my coach At Kent. State he Was Bobby babbage Was

1847
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:04,600
Speaker 1: he was THE ga At. Kent, yeah so he was

1848
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 1: basically this is probably his next steps, Now, yeah.

1849
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 2: And so and who else was on that staff that

1850
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 2: we saw Pet AND i always thought was a great.

1851
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 2: Coach he had been a good defensive coordinator for The.

1852
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 2: Bills funny enough so that GAME i tore MY acl

1853
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 2: on in twenty thirteen was against The. Bills like a

1854
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 2: few weeks, Later i'd get a card at like at,

1855
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 2: work and it was like it was From Mike, petton

1856
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:29,680
Speaker 2: not knowing that he was going to be the head

1857
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 2: coacher next.

1858
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:32,679
Speaker 1: Year he's, like, hey you, know hope for a great.

1859
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 1: Recovery you were tough to prepare. For you're a great,

1860
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: player you will bounce.

1861
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 2: Back and so like WHEN i saw, him now he's

1862
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 2: the head, Coach i'm, like, dude this is pretty. Cool

1863
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 2: like a, coach an opposing coach to send a.

1864
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 1: Letter, Yeah mike.

1865
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 2: McDaniel mike was young back, then he was the receiver,

1866
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 2: coach obviously became a head.

1867
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 1: Coach SO i mean there's three CURRENT nfl head coaches

1868
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 1: and there's coordinators, too, yep. Coordinators geez, wow we'll be

1869
01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: right back after this quick. BREAK i think this game real.

1870
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 1: Quick us in the, game all, right.

1871
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 3: We know the story of this, one the other twenty

1872
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 3: eight to, three THE og twenty eight to. Three first,

1873
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,640
Speaker 3: off we get this thing. Started you got to have

1874
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 3: the deficit before you can have the. Comeback so in

1875
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 3: the first two drives of the game That tennessee has the,

1876
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 3: ball two straight scoring drives like G locker to, Right

1877
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 3: locker on an eleven yard keeper it's fourteen to, Nothing

1878
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:24,719
Speaker 3: cleveland tax on a field. Goal moving into the second,

1879
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 3: quarter here's where things start to turn a little. Bit

1880
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 3: Jake locker knocked out of the. Game Entered Charlie, whitehurst

1881
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 3: but he finishes off the drive eleven yard touch on

1882
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 3: another one to kill. Right it's then a seventy five

1883
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 3: yard bomb right after. That we're at twenty eight to.

1884
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:40,719
Speaker 3: Three but we talked about this a little bit. Earlier

1885
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 3: the big drive at the end of the, half ninety

1886
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 3: yarder Drive jim Dre now we're twenty eight to ten

1887
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 3: going into the.

1888
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: Half can you explain the importance of that last yeah

1889
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 1: end a half two minute?

1890
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 2: Drive, well you know from it's the double up, right

1891
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 2: it's basically score before the, half knowing you're getting the

1892
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 2: ball coming out of, halftime and it's it really can

1893
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 2: BE i mean, swing a big, swing and so for,

1894
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 2: us it happened to BE i guess a ten point.

1895
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 2: Swing BUT i just remember being on the sideline and

1896
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 2: looking up and it was like it was twenty eight

1897
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 2: to three midway through the second, quarter AND i Remember kyle, saying, like,

1898
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 2: look we're just gonna run our. Offense it's too early

1899
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 2: in the game for us to just abandon like Our

1900
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 2: and AS i said, before that offense was really based

1901
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 2: on play, action run, game all of those. Things and

1902
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 2: and SO i think the pass to get that drive,

1903
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,799
Speaker 2: started we ran what we would call like a blaze.

1904
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 2: Out it was kind of like a speed twenty five

1905
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 2: yard out With Travis benjamin off of a hard play

1906
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 2: action pass deep bot like a deep deep.

1907
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 1: BOW i think we tried implementing those in our. Offense

1908
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 1: it just never took. Route but because they would never,

1909
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 1: back we never had guys that would just open the. Gate,

1910
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,560
Speaker 1: yes they would squad on the you, Know benjamin squad on.

1911
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 1: It so then we WOULD i would cut. It we

1912
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 1: would still get. Open i'd still flip his, hips but

1913
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 1: it would be a seventeen eighteen Yard.

1914
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 2: This was basically that, route but about another ten yards

1915
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 2: and that really you, know that's a chunk play right,

1916
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,680
Speaker 2: there got the drive, going got a few, runs a

1917
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 2: few IF i remember, correctly few boots THAT i got

1918
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:09,600
Speaker 2: on the edge. Completed, ACTUALLY i THINK i hit a

1919
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 2: double move To.

1920
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 1: Miles. Austin that was a cool. DVIE i didn't see

1921
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:16,640
Speaker 1: him on that, roster but he was. There he was.

1922
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 1: That that was he was. Old miles was After, dallas, right,

1923
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 1: yeah he was a. Monster LIKE i still love watching him.

1924
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 1: Play he was. Good he was a great. Pro and

1925
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 1: hit him on a double.

1926
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:28,639
Speaker 2: Move and so getting that touchdown before, half like going

1927
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 2: into half twenty eight to ten as opposed to twenty eight,

1928
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 2: three which you guys went in a half at twenty eight,

1929
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 2: three twenty one, three twenty one, three, okay and.

1930
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 1: Then they came out ford so that was, huge.

1931
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 2: And then open up the second half with LIKE i,

1932
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 2: said a boot double Move Taylor gabriel on our boy J.

1933
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 1: Mack how great was that? Stack? By? Uh gabriel did stack?

1934
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 1: Him like that's that's like the definition of how you

1935
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 1: want to stack the, defender and the stacking is putting

1936
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,600
Speaker 1: his body in between the defender and the. Ball it

1937
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 1: creates that little cush like that was like you threw

1938
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 1: it right. There he gave your room and he stacked.

1939
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 1: Him that was a fucking great. Throw, like, BOY i

1940
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 1: JUST i was so proud of watching this. Game you

1941
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 1: were sitting in, there you took your. HITS i, mean

1942
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 1: you were balling this. Time it was so unfortunate that

1943
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 1: this you, know this was your, tour your sale because

1944
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 1: you had a lot of juice. Going. Man, yeah, no

1945
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 1: this Was and that's how that's how crazy the league,

1946
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 1: is right it. Is it could just it can be

1947
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 1: taken like. That, yeah it goes, quick that's.

1948
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 2: Right and but, no to your, point like the locker,

1949
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 2: room first of, all scoring that, touchdown you go, in

1950
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 2: people are, Like, okay we're heading in the right. Direction

1951
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:40,640
Speaker 2: but LIKE i, said the same thing on the, Sideline kyle's, like,

1952
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 2: look we're just gonna run our.

1953
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 1: Offense we're gonna run the run. Plays we're gonna run

1954
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 1: the play.

1955
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,559
Speaker 2: Actions we're gonna run the boots now a big factor

1956
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 2: in this, game and it's there was the pump block

1957
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 2: that was, LIKE i mean we you AND i both

1958
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 2: know the stats on that you block a punt in the. Game,

1959
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 2: yeah it's like your. Chances SO i think people like

1960
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 2: the momentum kept. Growing they weren't really doing any, thing

1961
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:01,719
Speaker 2: and we kept battling.

1962
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 4: Back why do you guys, like, What, no something's a pun? Block,

1963
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 4: yeah well there's something just dawned on. Me, Sorry but

1964
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 4: do you Think Kyle shanahan knew like remembered this. Game,

1965
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 4: yeah on the opposite side.

1966
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 1: Of the field in the twenty eighth to three games

1967
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 1: and knew that it was. Possible, yeah it could. Be

1968
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 1: and especially is that why he was just running the

1969
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 1: offense and the back end of that game the shoe

1970
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 1: was on the other. FOOT i mean it could, be

1971
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 1: it could. Be, see that's WHAT i always think with

1972
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 1: Those West coast. Offenses they don't know. How they can

1973
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 1: only play one way and that's from, AHEAD i agree with.

1974
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 1: You and then once they get, ahead their four, minute

1975
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 1: like their four minute is never really like the greatest

1976
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:41,560
Speaker 1: because they don't have the DROP i don't what is?

1977
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 1: It what so YOU'RE i, mean, look you're right and

1978
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 1: and haven't been in.

1979
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 2: It there's Just, look there's only so much time you,

1980
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 2: have right and if you if your system is built

1981
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 2: off of run and play, action that's where you're going

1982
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 2: to devote the majority of your.

1983
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 1: Time.

1984
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, so for, instance in Like, OTAs do you think

1985
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:58,759
Speaker 2: we ever In New england had run run game? Periods,

1986
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 2: no everything was, pass it was seven on, seven it

1987
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 2: was team, pass it was all of those things.

1988
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: Because that was at the core of our. Offense we

1989
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 1: how many different protections do we? Have like? Ten? Right

1990
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: ten different? Protections so you got to work all of

1991
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 1: those Eight, yeah, sixties, sixties eighty, seventies, fifties. Nineties, Yeah

1992
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 1: like we had a.

1993
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:21,759
Speaker 2: Lot whereas SO i would say The West Coast, system

1994
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:23,600
Speaker 2: you're going to put a lot of your emphasis in

1995
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 2: the run game because everything comes off of. That and

1996
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 2: SO i think if you're playing from, ahead you're in. Control,

1997
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 2: now this was obviously an outlier here because we were

1998
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 2: far from. Behind we were far, behind but for whatever,

1999
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 2: reason they kept honoring the run and so we had

2000
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 2: a lot of great play action passes in this.

2001
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 1: Game there was some drop back.

2002
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 2: TOO i mean the game winning touchdown was down kind

2003
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 2: of bought out the red area and they p rushed.

2004
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 1: Us SO i that was one of the. Lessons what is?

2005
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 1: Mean he means they're dropping a defender and they got

2006
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 1: what is a trigger for us as players time time take,

2007
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 1: patients you know they're not going to get to. You

2008
01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 1: and So Ben tom hated the, rush, right hated him

2009
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 1: in the red, area, right because there's so many guys back.

2010
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 1: There that's What ernie just. Said we Had ernie on another.

2011
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 1: Day he, goes IF i wanted to get on A,

2012
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: TOM i just had to pee drop. Them that's, right

2013
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 1: Because tom's not going to take off and. Run and

2014
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 1: that's what the that's why a lot of guys don't

2015
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 1: get pee. Anymore but what would he? Do he would thumb.

2016
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,719
Speaker 1: YOU i, mean, no you ever see any quarter? Thumbing

2017
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 1: they call. It so like when when you see the

2018
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 1: quarterback on like a scramble, drill you saw a lot Of,

2019
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 1: tom which we would. Practice you would See tom thumb

2020
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 1: you a, direction go this, way and that was telling

2021
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 1: you to peel. Off and you see a lot of

2022
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 1: quarterbacks did. IT i think someone did it this PRESEASON

2023
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 1: a young. Quarterback really, YEAH i mean that was, like,

2024
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:40,720
Speaker 1: YEAH i had never really seen that.

2025
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 2: Before and it's like when you have a three man,

2026
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 2: rush so it's five on, three those guys are really

2027
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 2: never going to get. Home and that's what The titans

2028
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 2: did on this game winning touchdown And benjamin.

2029
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 1: Basically had a deeper turn. Route we had a concept

2030
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 1: where he had a deeper, turn which you, know like

2031
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 1: unless you have a three man, rush you're really not

2032
01:28:58,200 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 1: going to have the time to get to. It and

2033
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 1: so go through my progression like, boom, boom there's an

2034
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 1: extra guy, there and all of a, sudden he bounced

2035
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: back out and got free and it was high in

2036
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 1: the back end. Line is that a? Thumb it Was,

2037
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:11,639
Speaker 1: no it was just a naturally built natural, thumb natural

2038
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 1: thumb because he had that go, in sell it back.

2039
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 4: Out what happens in the moment when it's like you

2040
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,719
Speaker 4: clearly have a play like plan with all the reads

2041
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 4: and all this, stuff and then it's like when does

2042
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 4: that go out the window when it's a broken play

2043
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:24,639
Speaker 4: or when you know coverage is, Last, like, yeah when

2044
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 4: does that switch in your?

2045
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 1: Brain it's a, feel it's a feel.

2046
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 2: THING i think like in this, instance AND i remember

2047
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:31,719
Speaker 2: you can see these things happening before the play because

2048
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 2: the linebacker's coming, up he's tapping the d lineman and

2049
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 2: you can.

2050
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 1: Hear him, like, hey you're.

2051
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 2: Dropped like people don't realize how much stuff you hear

2052
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:39,719
Speaker 2: when you're out. There, yeah and so LIKE i, knew,

2053
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:41,639
Speaker 2: like all, right there's a good chance this is gonna

2054
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 2: be a three man. Rush take your, time, like don't

2055
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 2: don't zoom through your progression because much Like, Tom i'm

2056
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 2: more athletic than, HIM i probably wasn't gonna run the football.

2057
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 1: In and there's there's a.

2058
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 2: Time where there's a natural timing of the play and

2059
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 2: he knows, it everybody knows.

2060
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 1: It, yeah there's a.

2061
01:29:57,560 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 2: Clock and then at a certain point you're, like all,

2062
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:01,600
Speaker 2: right there's. NOTHING i gotta move. ON i got to

2063
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 2: either step up and move to the right the. LEFT

2064
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 2: i gotta do, something because as good as the lineman can,

2065
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 2: be there's only so long that they can hold.

2066
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 1: Up it's only so. Long and even like even that

2067
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 1: clock in your, head like for the, quarterback like when

2068
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 1: they're sitting, there it's Like i'm here too. LONG i

2069
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 1: need to Fucking. Yeah you feel, It you feel. It

2070
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:23,839
Speaker 1: like you, know you Feel Miles garrett coming from, behind

2071
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 1: you see fucking you know sinew or, whatever you, know

2072
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 1: big ass d tackle coming from the, Front like there's.

2073
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 1: You there's there's.

2074
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 2: Times too where you feel you can feel the pocket,

2075
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 2: right but when you wait too, long you don't know

2076
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 2: who's retracing. You there's stuff that now they're behind you

2077
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 2: you can't. See so it's definitely a. Clock and sometimes

2078
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 2: it declares itself where you're sitting there and it opens

2079
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 2: like The.

2080
01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 1: Red sea and you're, like, Well i'm gonna.

2081
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 2: Go i'm gonna take that route and keep my eyes

2082
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:52,759
Speaker 2: on the field to see if anybody opens.

2083
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 1: Up what was the play that stick out the most

2084
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 1: in this game that where you said we can come.

2085
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 1: Back so there was a OBVIOUSLY i mentioned the block

2086
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:03,560
Speaker 1: hunt on. Offense on, offense there was a PLAY i

2087
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 1: believe fourth quarter and we run A so that's the other.

2088
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 1: Thing the one THING i met failed to, mention we're

2089
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 1: gonna run our, offense but we're gonna go no huddle.

2090
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 2: Huddle so we did a lot of no huddle on this. Game,

2091
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 2: yeah and it was literally different than how we would

2092
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 2: do no. Huddle we kind of broke it down to

2093
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 2: like four formations And i'd hold up the number like

2094
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 2: one was like dolphin right or two was like you,

2095
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:26,760
Speaker 2: know spread spread or, whatever and everybody the trip and

2096
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 2: then we had our code, words so we were we

2097
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:30,679
Speaker 2: were moving pretty, quick AND i think a big part

2098
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 2: of our success was they were.

2099
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 1: Gassed we were. Good we kept going and there was

2100
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:37,640
Speaker 1: a no huddle drive and we kind of. Ran we

2101
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 1: we were in like zero flood, slots so the two

2102
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 1: receivers were over the.

2103
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 2: Side and we ran a boot and the y ran

2104
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 2: a corner route and then we had like basically like

2105
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 2: double post AND i came out and everyone was covered

2106
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 2: and and Uh phillips was their defensive.

2107
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 1: End he kind of like beat me to The then

2108
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 1: you stopped and stopped AND i came. Back it was

2109
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:57,719
Speaker 1: almost like thumb, yeah and it was AND i literally

2110
01:31:57,840 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 1: was like looking back, like oh my, god there's no

2111
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 1: AND i did the hop jumping through. It and when

2112
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 1: we ran off the field, THERE i was, like we got.

2113
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 1: This we just we just if we get another. Stop

2114
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:07,680
Speaker 1: and then there was one other.

2115
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 2: Throw WHEN i went back and watched, this that was

2116
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 2: risky as, hell and we ran like mumber, dribble like

2117
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 2: where the slot and the OUTSIDE i would block for

2118
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 2: the tight end like a little mini. Screen we ran

2119
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 2: that and that was for zone and the backside was

2120
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 2: basically like d, slant a diagonal in a.

2121
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 1: Slant that was for. Man so they line up in

2122
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 1: zone AND i go to throw the.

2123
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 2: Dribble it's like a little screen to the, left AND

2124
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 2: i think our tight end got like not hammered back

2125
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 2: SO i couldn't throw, It SO i can't go, back

2126
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:39,000
Speaker 2: and went back blindly late and through the slant like

2127
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 2: second window To MILES i, mean and then he split,

2128
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 2: it split. It it was probably the hardest Throw i've

2129
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 2: ever thrown in a game because the window was like,

2130
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 2: this and that play really kept that game winning drive.

2131
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 1: Going and and what do you? Need you need two

2132
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 1: things on a game winning drive or two minute. Drive

2133
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 1: what are the two? Things chunk? Plays get the drive?

2134
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 1: Started there you, go, there you go, plays get the drive.

2135
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,200
Speaker 2: STARTED i should have said it the other, Way, yeah

2136
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 2: get the drive started and get them in their two

2137
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 2: minute defense them started a few chunk, plays which really

2138
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 2: save you the. Time that was the biggest, Thing like

2139
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 2: you talk about learning From ernie And, bill thing you

2140
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:15,759
Speaker 2: don't really think about as a young, player like yards

2141
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:18,800
Speaker 2: are more or time is more valuable than their. Yards

2142
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 2: so like you drop back in a two minute, Drill, Look,

2143
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 2: hoyer if the guy's in the fucking flat, right.

2144
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 1: Is fucking throw it in the. Ground you know you're

2145
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 1: in four down.

2146
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 2: Territory, Anyways like you'd rather instead of take a five

2147
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:31,479
Speaker 2: yard checkdown and?

2148
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 1: Lose what would they?

2149
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 2: Would they would, Say like it'd be like thirty, seconds you'd.

2150
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 2: Lose you'd rather throw it at his, feet take another

2151
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 2: play and take a chance at a ten to fifteen yard, completion.

2152
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:42,759
Speaker 3: Exactly to put a bow on this bad. Boy cleveland

2153
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 3: blanked him in the second. HALF a sixteen point fourth

2154
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 3: quarter wow got him over the. Top two touchdowns Of

2155
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:51,599
Speaker 3: Travis benjamin MAN i was, sick and the black point

2156
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 3: we talked about ended up winning this. Thing twenty nine

2157
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 3: twenty eight took the lead with a minute nine seconds

2158
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 3: left on That Travis BENJAMIN td twenty one to thirty

2159
01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:04,639
Speaker 3: seven for two hundred and ninety one, yards three, tds one.

2160
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 3: Pick but that was more like a, Punt so we're

2161
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 3: not gonna count, that, RIGHT i remember? That, Yeah and

2162
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 3: biggest comeback In brown's, history biggest comeback IN nfl road,

2163
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:15,519
Speaker 3: HISTORY i mean pretty incredible and.

2164
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 1: Said you just got to, believe you just gotta gotta. Believe,

2165
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:19,880
Speaker 1: yeah you didn't even Have dola there to say, that that's,

2166
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 1: right that's. Right. Now what it feel like when you

2167
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 1: hit zero and the fucking you got to the? Top,

2168
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:27,760
Speaker 1: yeah what'd that feel? Like that was?

2169
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 2: ELATION i, mean it's, funny like going at least what

2170
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 2: a good word for? THIS i know In Michigan State,

2171
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 2: EDUCATION i, WENT i wanted to go back and watch

2172
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:37,599
Speaker 2: it and kind of just relive it so we could

2173
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 2: talk about.

2174
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 1: It and, uh the biggest THING i.

2175
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 2: Remember like it was a blur and of course like

2176
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 2: do you had to do the postgame interview on the

2177
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 2: field headset like and get back to the locker.

2178
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 1: Room the whole team's waiting for. You water bottles ARE i,

2179
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 1: mean it was just one of those moments that, like

2180
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:54,760
Speaker 1: AS i get further and further away for, Football i'm

2181
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:56,759
Speaker 1: like that was a good moment in the. Career nothing

2182
01:34:56,840 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 1: here is anything like, Winning, no, right so they winning here's.

2183
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 1: Anything remember remember When bill would be, like, look with

2184
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 1: all due respect to Like thanksgiving Or, christmas the best

2185
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:10,760
Speaker 1: thing we can do for our families is win and

2186
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:13,040
Speaker 1: it was. True it was. True it made everything.

2187
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 2: Better it made the turkey taste, better it made It

2188
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:16,840
Speaker 2: allard Made christmas morning.

2189
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:19,280
Speaker 1: BETTER i mean we could sit. Here do you remember

2190
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 1: our rookie year we had to.

2191
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:24,600
Speaker 2: Practice On christmas? Morning, yeah AND i kind of liked it,

2192
01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 2: Though AND i didn't have our family. Here this is

2193
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 2: AND i know you Had Matt light here, yesterday so

2194
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 2: this is what make me think of the. Story so

2195
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:33,360
Speaker 2: he So bill was, like all, right look LIKE i

2196
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 2: know It's. Christmas why don't the veterans get together and,

2197
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:38,479
Speaker 2: decide like when you guys want to come. In so

2198
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 2: of Course Matt light like holds the holds court and after,

2199
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:43,679
Speaker 2: Practice bill's, like what do you guys?

2200
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:45,640
Speaker 1: Decide And matt's like, eleven we want to come in

2201
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 1: Eleven And bill's like. Eleven, LOOK i had young kids

2202
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 1: once to they're up at, seven the presents are open

2203
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:55,839
Speaker 1: at seven. Thirty i'll see your asses at nine. Tomorrow but, basically,

2204
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 1: like Ask matt to talk to the other, players decide

2205
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 1: what time you want to come. In And matt and

2206
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:03,840
Speaker 1: his in his like infinite, wisdom was, like, yeah, eleven,

2207
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:06,679
Speaker 1: Eleven And bill was, like fuck, that Like i'll see

2208
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 1: you at, NINE i mean fucking or The christmas story

2209
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:13,719
Speaker 1: when we you AND i come in And randy's sitting

2210
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 1: there talking on his phone and his mom and so

2211
01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:21,800
Speaker 1: it was my, Locker julian's, Locker randy And, tom and

2212
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 1: we were young and to your point like don't have.

2213
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 1: Kids Like i'm, like this is, Awesome Like i'm gonna

2214
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 1: go play football On christmas with my.

2215
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 2: Team like we were in there, early, early and we

2216
01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 2: walk in AND i was, happy, jolly and AND i

2217
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:38,639
Speaker 2: think you would just come out of the training.

2218
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 1: Room you're probably getting like treatment or. Whatever And randy's

2219
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 1: like talking to his mom, like, hey, mom Merry. Christmas

2220
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:47,760
Speaker 1: And julian, goes is That mama? Moss oh tell? HER

2221
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 1: i Said Merry, christmas like, jovial, cheerful and this is

2222
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 1: literally my. Recollection randy's, like hold on a, second, Mom, Hey,

2223
01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 1: julian When i'm talking to my fucking, mom just shut

2224
01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 1: the fuck. UP i was, like very FUCK i heard.

2225
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:09,599
Speaker 1: THAT i almost. Cry, YEAH i mean we were just bleary,

2226
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 1: eye like so.

2227
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 2: HAPPY i mean for you probably the same like we

2228
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 2: were JUST i was so elated to like be a

2229
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 2: part of like this great organization thousand percent and around

2230
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 2: these great, players and it really it's there's a lot

2231
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 2: of great.

2232
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:27,720
Speaker 1: Memories, well the aftermath of, This Johnny manzel makes his.

2233
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:31,799
Speaker 1: Start In week, Fifteen hoyd tears his. Acl The Cleveland

2234
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 1: browns snapped a seven game losing, streak first road win

2235
01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:37,759
Speaker 1: Since september twenty.

2236
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:40,840
Speaker 3: Thirteen that's fucking that's a lot of good. Shit not

2237
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 3: a bad way to snap a road losing. Streak, yeah,

2238
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:44,800
Speaker 3: SERIOUSLY i didn't even. KNOW i don't THINK i even

2239
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 3: realized that BECAUSE i had only been.

2240
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 1: There this is an underrated get two. Years this is

2241
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 1: like one of the. Best there's always a good gem

2242
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:53,680
Speaker 1: of a regular. Season this was a great pick by

2243
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 1: BROWN i mean one of my favorite. Picks we throw

2244
01:37:56,760 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 1: you off in the three, game AND i was sitting, there,

2245
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:01,640
Speaker 1: like what the is this guy talking when we already did.

2246
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 2: That, LIKE i will say, this when you guys threw

2247
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:06,479
Speaker 2: up the stats of The titans that, YEAR i don't

2248
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 2: feel it's good about he.

2249
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:14,679
Speaker 1: Said they won two games. Fourteen, YEAH i mean shame

2250
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 1: on us.

2251
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:16,640
Speaker 2: For getting down the way we, did because ACTUALLY i

2252
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:18,599
Speaker 2: think we went on like a pretty big winning streak after.

2253
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:20,680
Speaker 1: This you went six and. Three, yeah you were six and.

2254
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:22,560
Speaker 1: Three this is here you want to talk, about like

2255
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:26,639
Speaker 1: the pitfalls of THE. Nfl we go. Down we're Playing

2256
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 1: cincinnati on the road on A thursday night. Game they

2257
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 1: they had basically won the, division right that Was Andy

2258
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 1: dalton Aj GREEN i. HEARD i heard about this. Game,

2259
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:37,560
Speaker 1: yeah The hoyard chance at the. End. Yeah and so

2260
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:39,559
Speaker 1: like we're sitting, there we beat.

2261
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:42,760
Speaker 2: Them we whooped their ass, too like like we we

2262
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 2: went in, there we, go you're gonna get to that

2263
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:48,320
Speaker 2: and uh we whooped their.

2264
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:51,439
Speaker 1: Butt and and It's thursday night. Football so similar to,

2265
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 1: you like when you had your issue With Joe, THOMAS

2266
01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 1: i didn't have an. Issue BUT i go up on

2267
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:58,400
Speaker 1: the stage after The thursday night football game and you

2268
01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 1: know who's sitting right next to, Me deon s just

2269
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:01,600
Speaker 1: the KID i idolized as a.

2270
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:04,680
Speaker 2: KID i had the twenty one Jersey dallas, jersey and

2271
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 2: he's up. There the fans are right there in front

2272
01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:10,160
Speaker 2: of their ten And dean, goes you know what The

2273
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:10,800
Speaker 2: browns need to?

2274
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:14,160
Speaker 1: Do pay this. MAN i remember. THAT i remember thinking

2275
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:16,640
Speaker 1: to myself, like oh my, god this is this is?

2276
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:18,600
Speaker 1: It like this is the ENDORSEMENT i need from the

2277
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:20,720
Speaker 1: media because it had been, like all, right when are

2278
01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:23,920
Speaker 1: they gonna Play, Johnny here's here's my idol saying pay this.

2279
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 1: MAN i was benched like three weeks. Later, DAMN i.

2280
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 1: Know isn't that like you talk about like highs of

2281
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:32,760
Speaker 1: high lows the low low the football gods are slapping Down.

2282
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 3: Amen speaking Of, CINCINNATI i would be remiss IF i

2283
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 3: didn't mention a game that took place later on in

2284
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 3: this same, day they were on The cincinnati.

2285
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 1: Game oh, okay fuck, it See hoy forty, three.

2286
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 3: Twenty three, SEVENTEEN a, boy you're, connected one week After

2287
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:50,840
Speaker 3: Trent dilfer said they're, Dead they're.

2288
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 1: Fuck brady's. Done let's name the game and score the.

2289
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:56,639
Speaker 1: Game is this the greatest game of all? Time let's

2290
01:39:56,680 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 1: score it, Now. Hoy these are some of the names

2291
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:01,360
Speaker 1: that we can came up. With we came up with

2292
01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 1: The Music City, meltdown The cleveland, comeback the other twenty

2293
01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:09,759
Speaker 1: eight to, three THE og twenty eight to. Three hoyer

2294
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:12,600
Speaker 1: did it first game or any like that.

2295
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:15,559
Speaker 2: Unselfishly But i'm not a selfish, guy SO i don't

2296
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 2: want to put my name on. It i'm going to

2297
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 2: say THE og twenty eight to three has a little.

2298
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:19,479
Speaker 3: RHYME i like.

2299
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 1: THAT i like that. One he keeps, it you.

2300
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:23,759
Speaker 2: KNOW i like to remind you And tom And dola

2301
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:25,360
Speaker 2: THAT i did it. First, yeah you guys did it

2302
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 2: on a bigger, stage BUT i did it. First, well

2303
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 2: let's get into. It let's score the. Game is this

2304
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 2: the greatest game of all? Time let's score decimals encouraged Toy,

2305
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 2: okay they're.

2306
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:38,040
Speaker 1: Encouraged stakes of this game in the regular, season the

2307
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 1: other twenty eight to, three zero to, ten ten being

2308
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:43,560
Speaker 1: you just won your Eighth Super bowl in a.

2309
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:46,240
Speaker 2: Row, yeah in the grand scheme of the, league it's

2310
01:40:46,240 --> 01:40:48,639
Speaker 2: probably not very. High but for us as The, BROWNS

2311
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:50,519
Speaker 2: i would say was if we lose this, GAME i

2312
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 2: think we dropped one and.

2313
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:54,320
Speaker 1: Three we had BEAT i think our first game we

2314
01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:54,720
Speaker 1: beat The.

2315
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:57,120
Speaker 2: Saints the second game was honestly one of the best

2316
01:40:57,160 --> 01:40:59,920
Speaker 2: games of our. Career but we lose To Joe flacco Led.

2317
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 2: Ravens they come back and be just so we lose this.

2318
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:05,280
Speaker 2: Game we dropped one and. Three i'm probably getting benched

2319
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:08,000
Speaker 2: after this. Game So i'm gonna say it's it's like

2320
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 2: a five.

2321
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:10,439
Speaker 1: Point two in the stakes of The cleveland brown it

2322
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 1: was important for us to win this, game especially in

2323
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 1: the fashion we, did that does up the, stakes you

2324
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:16,479
Speaker 1: know What i'm going with the six point. THREE i

2325
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:19,680
Speaker 1: think it was higher than that because this WAS i

2326
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 1: remember watching these. GAMES i remember because it was my

2327
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:24,720
Speaker 1: dog and SO i would always watch him when we

2328
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 1: were out, there see him dicing people, up throwing A

2329
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 1: Cam jordan's, ship great example of. That Not Cam, JORDAN

2330
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:34,800
Speaker 1: i was getting this fucks me up every. Time it's

2331
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:35,559
Speaker 1: fucked a lot of people.

2332
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:37,920
Speaker 2: Up you, know the story is, story, Right cam told

2333
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:42,479
Speaker 2: us they literally The browns Called Cam jordan in that

2334
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:44,080
Speaker 2: draft and like, hey we're drafting, you and he's, like,

2335
01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 2: WELL i just got drafted by The. Saints, Whoever brown's

2336
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:50,639
Speaker 2: gonna brown backwards on the on the, car, like thank

2337
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 2: god they didn't submit.

2338
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 1: It brown's going. BROWN i got our, POWERHOY i had

2339
01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:57,560
Speaker 1: a three point four little LOW i you didn't hear my.

2340
01:41:57,560 --> 01:41:59,639
Speaker 1: PERSPECTIVE i didn't hear the first told me how important

2341
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:00,600
Speaker 1: it was to us at the.

2342
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:02,960
Speaker 2: Time maybe it goes, up but in the grand scheme of,

2343
01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:06,120
Speaker 2: THINGS i, mean this is to a two and fourteen,

2344
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:08,320
Speaker 2: team and what a seven and nineteen that's not very.

2345
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:12,719
Speaker 1: Point one from a fan per. Inside the star power

2346
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:16,760
Speaker 1: of this, game zero ten decimals. Encouraged i'm gonna even

2347
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:19,640
Speaker 1: go lower on, this, like let's go three point. Eight

2348
01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:22,640
Speaker 1: see THAT'S i think THAT'S i think that's a little. Low.

2349
01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:24,960
Speaker 1: HOY i think it's probably like a four point nine to.

2350
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:28,720
Speaker 1: Five i'm gonna go five to two because you've got

2351
01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 1: like three head coaches on this goddamn.

2352
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:34,719
Speaker 2: Staff you got much going coaches as. Well Drew carey

2353
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:37,160
Speaker 2: in the, crowd he might have been, There Big cleveland Guy.

2354
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:40,920
Speaker 2: Cleveland Also Joe Thomas hall Of. Famer i'll bump it

2355
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:42,000
Speaker 2: up to four point.

2356
01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:44,840
Speaker 1: Eight Johnny manziel is a. Star he's a. Star BUT

2357
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:47,160
Speaker 1: i didn't think about the coaching aspect of. It, COACHING

2358
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:49,639
Speaker 1: i mean this, football maybe it takes a five point.

2359
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:52,439
Speaker 1: SEVEN i was in the same ballpark CURRENT nfl COACHES i.

2360
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:54,920
Speaker 1: WAS i was just thinking of, players my bad gameplay

2361
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 1: of this, game which it is fucking incredible. Comeback, Yeah

2362
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,479
Speaker 1: i'm gonna ago with a seven point. Nine seven point

2363
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:05,640
Speaker 1: nine that even that's pretty, modest that, Is i'm gonna. Go,

2364
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:08,720
Speaker 1: dude you had a block. Punt, yeah you had some,

2365
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:13,600
Speaker 1: big crazy chunk plays. UNANSWERED i loved this. GAME i

2366
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:19,280
Speaker 1: Think i'm gonna go with a seven point. Six, okay

2367
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:22,760
Speaker 1: look the seven four, jewels same building had nine point.

2368
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:24,680
Speaker 1: One i'm sitting here with the guy who did it

2369
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 1: in The Super, Bowl So i'm a little self, Depreciating

2370
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:32,559
Speaker 1: like no. Touchstakes this is not just, gameplay that's game.

2371
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:35,760
Speaker 1: Plan got? It this game play for. Me, Okay, now

2372
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 1: the name of the, game WHICH i didn't realize that

2373
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:42,679
Speaker 1: there was another, one but that is a pretty freak

2374
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 1: that that's pretty. Cool the og little line to. It

2375
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:49,080
Speaker 1: i'm Gonna i'm gonna give that an eight point. Nine

2376
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:51,519
Speaker 1: eight point? Nine you, CAN i?

2377
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 2: CAN i just interject, here which is honestly the coolest

2378
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:56,720
Speaker 2: thing that came from this. Game so THE Nfl hall

2379
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 2: Of fame they have like a year in review display

2380
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:02,439
Speaker 2: at The hall Of. Fame and because this was the

2381
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:06,719
Speaker 2: largest road comeback IN nfl, history my jersey And Travis

2382
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:09,080
Speaker 2: benjamin's jersey and his cleats were on display in The

2383
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 2: hall Of. Fame AND i was able to drive down

2384
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:14,560
Speaker 2: with my wife and kids and see. That and so

2385
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:16,720
Speaker 2: Although i'll never make it into The hall Of fame

2386
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:17,880
Speaker 2: as an, INDUCTEE i think you.

2387
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:20,200
Speaker 1: WILL i think you will and you can be.

2388
01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:22,760
Speaker 2: MODEST i really do think you deserve, it but to

2389
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:25,960
Speaker 2: have that moment and have those, pictures like we were

2390
01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:28,080
Speaker 2: just In cooperstown for my son's baseball tournament and we

2391
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:30,439
Speaker 2: went to The Baseball hall Of fame AND i pulled

2392
01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 2: up the picture AND i showed my.

2393
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:34,080
Speaker 1: SON i, said do you remember? This and he goes kind.

2394
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:36,560
Speaker 2: OF i, said, yeah that was we went to go

2395
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 2: see your dad's jersey in The hall Of, fame which

2396
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:38,719
Speaker 2: is pretty.

2397
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 1: Cool that's. Amazing, yeah, man fucking Hoy, dog you'll be,

2398
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:45,080
Speaker 1: There I'll i'll be there at the. Induction pet out of. Here, well,

2399
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:48,600
Speaker 1: baby the name of the, game The Patriots hall of

2400
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:52,439
Speaker 1: that's the first. Step, hey, well this is about, you hoy.

2401
01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 1: Dog this is about. You the name of the, game

2402
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:58,160
Speaker 1: THE og twenty eight to. Three i'm gonna. GO i

2403
01:44:58,200 --> 01:44:59,800
Speaker 1: got get a little ring. Jingle i'll go with the

2404
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 1: seven point. Six, now you guys are given at seven point. Two,

2405
01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:07,680
Speaker 1: OKAY i have three point a little, low but it's

2406
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:10,920
Speaker 1: a little low at, first so we pump it.

2407
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:14,040
Speaker 4: UP i don't care about the puns with the actual.

2408
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:15,760
Speaker 4: Name it's like the culture of. Relevance how much DO

2409
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 4: i think about this, game like on a.

2410
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:19,240
Speaker 1: Daily base you probably hadn't think at.

2411
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:21,600
Speaker 4: ALL i think about this like The Fiesta ball With

2412
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 4: Oklahoma's oklahoma Versus Boys state like every, night, Right so that's.

2413
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 1: High so that's HOW i think about The Roman. Empire

2414
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:30,080
Speaker 1: The Roman. Empire, yeah that's about that empire here In.

2415
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 1: Boston have you watched this guy Play Roman anthony baseball?

2416
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:35,200
Speaker 1: Player he's nice with. It do they just gave him

2417
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:36,880
Speaker 1: one hundred and one hundred and twenty eight. Million, yeah

2418
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:37,920
Speaker 1: they're saying that was a, seal that was a.

2419
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:40,040
Speaker 2: DEAL i, mean he's twenty, one so probably hadn't made

2420
01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:41,639
Speaker 2: a lot of coin. Yet let's go, dude he's.

2421
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:44,720
Speaker 1: Unreal. Dude they they were whooping on Those yankees the

2422
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:47,040
Speaker 1: last couple of. WEEKS i, think, hey look we uh

2423
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:49,920
Speaker 1: it's it's you talk about a cool. Moment go To

2424
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:52,640
Speaker 1: fanway with your. Son and we were there for his

2425
01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:54,680
Speaker 1: first night because there was a lot of hyper on this,

2426
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:57,760
Speaker 1: guy And i'd say he's sufficiently lived up to that hype.

2427
01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 1: Song it's excited to be A Red sox fan right.

2428
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 1: Now so this game is a six point oh, four

2429
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:04,040
Speaker 1: it's our new hundredth.

2430
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:07,439
Speaker 4: Game it's just ahead of the nine twenty Nineteen raiders

2431
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:11,439
Speaker 4: Versus bears In london and just below the two thousand

2432
01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:12,680
Speaker 4: and Eight week three preseason.

2433
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:16,280
Speaker 1: Game that's the. Travesty i'm bringing this to Our, well

2434
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:18,599
Speaker 1: we did that do when he was on the count

2435
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:22,679
Speaker 1: with hard. Knocks gonna have to be to be. Down,

2436
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:25,840
Speaker 1: yeah we're gonna need to bring this The Raiders Bears?

2437
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 1: London who did? That richie? Incognito, okay they Like Josh. Jacobs,

2438
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:33,680
Speaker 1: yes it ran for a bunch of. Yards. Happy we

2439
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 1: had A london game that was a fun. Night after,

2440
01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:38,559
Speaker 1: That oh my, god remember that you already Had. Ormburger

2441
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:41,519
Speaker 1: you didn't tell this. Story let's explain. IT i Mean london,

2442
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:44,599
Speaker 1: Game london game twenty. Twelve we we whooped their, butt

2443
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:47,240
Speaker 1: whooped their, curfy almost got in a fight with the

2444
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:49,920
Speaker 1: team at a bar and at some.

2445
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:52,720
Speaker 2: Point, now, look we were, young SO i actually had a,

2446
01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:56,400
Speaker 2: roommate WHICH i believe Was. Ormberger, yeah and IF i

2447
01:46:56,479 --> 01:46:58,960
Speaker 2: remember this, correctly we were doing customs at the hotel

2448
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 2: at like eight am and there And bill's, like don't

2449
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 2: miss this because once they're, gone like we're taking, off

2450
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:07,799
Speaker 2: AND i think rich had been out and couldn't remember

2451
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 2: the hotel we were staying at and he said he

2452
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:12,000
Speaker 2: was in the he was in the cab just, circling

2453
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 2: like trying to find the one that looked and he

2454
01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:16,800
Speaker 2: ran up at like seven forty through all his ship

2455
01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 2: in the in the suitcase and made it on. Time

2456
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:20,640
Speaker 2: but it was, Like i'm like trying to call him

2457
01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:21,760
Speaker 2: and this is, Back like it was.

2458
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:23,599
Speaker 1: The first time we ever not had cure few all. Again,

2459
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 1: right that was a fun. Night that.

2460
01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:27,280
Speaker 2: Was we also had The Dinosaur Barbecue knight where you

2461
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:29,439
Speaker 2: AND tv had the Beer chuck.

2462
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:32,320
Speaker 1: And cons on THAT i think to did, no he

2463
01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 1: was spilled all over. Hisself all, right we're gonna have

2464
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:36,720
Speaker 1: to go to the review on that. One we did

2465
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 1: that game with. That that was a game that was.

2466
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 1: AWESOME i mean like that was our first time seeing

2467
01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:44,040
Speaker 1: like the guys in real. Life, yeah because we were,

2468
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:47,320
Speaker 1: granted we were fucking like slap dicks at that time

2469
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 1: in our, career so we never saw the veterans or

2470
01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:52,320
Speaker 1: the cool guys. Out we didn't get the invites. Yep

2471
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:54,040
Speaker 1: so when we all went out as a, team it was, like,

2472
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:56,560
Speaker 1: man a dinosaur Barbecue, Rochester New, Year i'm dreaking a

2473
01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:59,360
Speaker 1: beer with the coaches out then. Coaches, yeah, yeah, Yeah

2474
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:03,600
Speaker 1: nikosia was, There chattio was. There remember they got in a.

2475
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:06,719
Speaker 1: Fight didn't they get to fight that? Game Billy oh And? Tommy,

2476
01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 1: no that Was that was a few weeks later In.

2477
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:13,760
Speaker 1: Washington was That washington with dog was Gone? Underwood? Yes, Yes,

2478
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 1: NOW i think if you're thinking of When tom And

2479
01:48:16,560 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 1: josh got in the fight In buffalo that was? Later

2480
01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:22,200
Speaker 1: was that? Later? YEAH i, mean, look we have years

2481
01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:24,640
Speaker 1: of stories that we can, tell but that dinosaur barbecue on.

2482
01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:27,800
Speaker 1: Was BUT i like to but like for those examples

2483
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:31,080
Speaker 1: when people talk about guys fighting in between the lines

2484
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:33,000
Speaker 1: in the middle of. BATTLE i talked to all my

2485
01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:36,360
Speaker 1: employees when we were in arguments and stuff, like when

2486
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:39,799
Speaker 1: we're in between the, lines that's that's gonna. Happen we're

2487
01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:42,360
Speaker 1: in fucking. War doesn't MEAN i don't love, you doesn't

2488
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:44,280
Speaker 1: mean right when the game's, over they don't. Like that

2489
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 1: happens all the. Time guys blow up on each other

2490
01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:49,080
Speaker 1: after the. Game oh my. Bad. Bro you, know it's

2491
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:50,720
Speaker 1: just a high stress environment.

2492
01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:52,800
Speaker 2: With that one that you're, Referencing Billy oh And Tom

2493
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:56,639
Speaker 2: AND i think while you're thinking OF chattyo is REMEMBER

2494
01:48:56,920 --> 01:48:59,160
Speaker 2: i Think billy oh like took the the.

2495
01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:01,240
Speaker 1: Frozen water ball and slammed on the ground and Hit

2496
01:49:01,320 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 1: chad like right in the. Ankle. Bon he's, like Fuck,

2497
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:06,519
Speaker 1: billy that fucking. Hurt and uh but like literally like

2498
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:08,880
Speaker 1: five minutes, later they're, like all, right we might have

2499
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:10,360
Speaker 1: to go a two minute. Drive like they're sitting.

2500
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:13,479
Speaker 2: THERE i mean it's there's these are heated, moments passionate

2501
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:16,680
Speaker 2: guys and competitive to competitive AND i think let's just,

2502
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:19,599
Speaker 2: say thank, god there's not like a TRUE hr department

2503
01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:22,320
Speaker 2: in THE. NFL i, mean it just couldn't.

2504
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:25,800
Speaker 1: Exist no be. Gone are you like drinking with the

2505
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:28,280
Speaker 1: coaches At Dinasaur barbera guess like they're just it's like

2506
01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 1: this and for young guys, us we never saw what

2507
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:33,160
Speaker 1: is going. On did you actually feel comfortable to go for?

2508
01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:35,919
Speaker 1: It or are you still we just cleaned start a? Division,

2509
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:37,720
Speaker 1: yeah we were, like yeah it.

2510
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:37,920
Speaker 6: Now.

2511
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:40,800
Speaker 1: Everybody Remember welker like was late to the next moment

2512
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:43,960
Speaker 1: the next morning clap and we were like and he

2513
01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:45,960
Speaker 1: came in and he was like And bill's just looking at.

2514
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:47,280
Speaker 1: HIM i, mean, like what can you really?

2515
01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:49,920
Speaker 2: Do it's technically like a travel day off day off Day,

2516
01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:51,960
Speaker 2: yeah he's a fun.

2517
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:53,560
Speaker 1: Night who's the best coach to drink a beer? With

2518
01:49:54,320 --> 01:50:00,360
Speaker 1: Probably billy Chat O'shay Chattio chattio look And irish, Guys irish.

2519
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:02,920
Speaker 1: Guys that's. Right i'm happy to Have Billy oh back

2520
01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:04,960
Speaker 1: in back in. TOWN i am, too, MAN I i

2521
01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:08,720
Speaker 1: got my fucking b For Billy. Oh right, here, Man

2522
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:12,160
Speaker 1: Billy oh And JOE v who's Oversh bears shout.

2523
01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:13,960
Speaker 2: Out To bears the show we gotta. Go i've never

2524
01:50:13,960 --> 01:50:15,640
Speaker 2: Seen bears smile so much of now WHEN i go

2525
01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:16,240
Speaker 2: over to B, C.

2526
01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 1: I, know it's. Incredible it's it's it's. OUTRIGHT i can't

2527
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:22,880
Speaker 1: wait to see those two guys. Play and it's not this.

2528
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:24,840
Speaker 1: Year we gotta go to that game that. Happens we

2529
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:26,760
Speaker 1: gotta go to that. Game hopefully they can bill up

2530
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:29,800
Speaker 1: to over Fucking Boston. College that gets the you think

2531
01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 1: you can get a bill on this? Podcast you know,

2532
01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 1: WHAT i don't want to talk about. IT i mean

2533
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:34,559
Speaker 1: he's got to relate to the kids, NOW i mean

2534
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:35,960
Speaker 1: he's got. IT i want to talk about. It.

2535
01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:39,080
Speaker 4: Yeah you, know, Hey, jules that's the. Angle if you

2536
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:42,120
Speaker 4: want to get good recruits watching, This, yeah.

2537
01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:44,960
Speaker 1: He'll go on to you, Know Indianapolis colts. Guys the

2538
01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:48,280
Speaker 1: podcast literally tried to burn, them literally tried to burn.

2539
01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:52,559
Speaker 1: Him he'll go on To Steeler guys podcast literally never beat. Us,

2540
01:50:52,760 --> 01:50:55,280
Speaker 1: hey he'll go on to other people's, podcast but he

2541
01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:57,599
Speaker 1: won't come on to the guy who he literally drafted

2542
01:50:57,640 --> 01:51:00,120
Speaker 1: and was probably one of his only good receivers that he.

2543
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:05,000
Speaker 1: Drives thank god you took all those team friendly, deals,

2544
01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:07,040
Speaker 1: brother that's, right that's why he kept your.

2545
01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:10,240
Speaker 2: Own IF i could have got The browns to go

2546
01:51:10,320 --> 01:51:11,599
Speaker 2: up one hunter, k you would have been a part

2547
01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:13,320
Speaker 2: of this, game would have been in This AND i

2548
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:15,680
Speaker 2: don't want to like Poor salt in the, womb BUT

2549
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:16,760
Speaker 2: i appreciate you having me.

2550
01:51:16,840 --> 01:51:18,680
Speaker 1: ON i, MEAN i Know tom hasn't come, on but

2551
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:20,160
Speaker 1: you had to go to the. Backup got to go

2552
01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:21,439
Speaker 1: to the back up, there and that's What i'm here.

2553
01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:23,800
Speaker 1: For you, Know tom Ben bill can't get anyone on.

2554
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:24,080
Speaker 6: THIS i.

2555
01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:26,560
Speaker 1: THINK i think you just keep just keep pressing on,

2556
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:28,760
Speaker 1: them keep posting those. Photos, YEAH i, Know tom will

2557
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:32,880
Speaker 1: go on other people's, bodies and you know it is.

2558
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:35,200
Speaker 1: Good it is the pretty high they got to top.

2559
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:35,600
Speaker 3: That that was.

2560
01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:38,400
Speaker 1: Awesome, no but this was a great fucking. Game this

2561
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:41,320
Speaker 1: was some Awesome these were some amazing stories to go. Over.

2562
01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:43,840
Speaker 1: Brian did we miss anything from this? Game, NO i

2563
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:44,679
Speaker 1: don't think so we covered.

2564
01:51:44,720 --> 01:51:47,000
Speaker 2: IT i was more excited to reminisce with you because

2565
01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:49,800
Speaker 2: AS i AS i, Said i'm listening To teddy kay on,

2566
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:53,880
Speaker 2: Here i'm listening To, Orenberger, Slater Billy.

2567
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:58,200
Speaker 1: Oh, Bears, BEARS i mean their, stories.

2568
01:51:57,960 --> 01:52:01,720
Speaker 2: The stories to hear them and to let people in

2569
01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:04,160
Speaker 2: on like kind of like the inside the fun that we.

2570
01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:06,519
Speaker 1: Had everyone thinks we didn't have. Fun, no we had

2571
01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:09,479
Speaker 1: a lot of. Fun we thought winning was fun fun remember,

2572
01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:11,880
Speaker 1: that trust, me a lot of losing teams, too. Dude

2573
01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:14,479
Speaker 1: remember that? Whiteboard were you there WHEN i put that on? There?

2574
01:52:14,600 --> 01:52:16,840
Speaker 1: YEAH i THINK i. Was winning is. Fun winning is.

2575
01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:19,479
Speaker 1: Fun it makes your whole life. Fun it may suck

2576
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:22,280
Speaker 1: during the. Week i'm not gonna lie to you like those. Were,

2577
01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:24,679
Speaker 1: yeah you didn't want to be put on the low,

2578
01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:28,639
Speaker 1: lights you didn't want to fuck. Up, no But sunday

2579
01:52:28,640 --> 01:52:31,000
Speaker 1: afternoons were always pretty. Good made me a better, man

2580
01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:36,800
Speaker 1: and and it made me feel the real. World that's

2581
01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 1: how the real world. Is that's. Right if you don't fucking,

2582
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:41,880
Speaker 1: work you ain't getting. Shit if you feel sorry for,

2583
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:43,760
Speaker 1: yourself the people will move on from.

2584
01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:46,639
Speaker 2: You And i'll say this from my, perspective having started,

2585
01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:52,639
Speaker 2: here leaving coming, back there was never a closer team

2586
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 2: than any of the teams THAT i was with The,

2587
01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:56,040
Speaker 2: patriots BECAUSE i think we all went through it.

2588
01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:58,320
Speaker 1: Together, yeah we were. All we all knew at any

2589
01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:01,160
Speaker 1: moment you could get called, out and it brought everybody closer.

2590
01:53:01,160 --> 01:53:03,120
Speaker 1: TOGETHER i think that Was bill's superpower was AND i

2591
01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 1: think that's why he did. That, YEAH i think so,

2592
01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:07,920
Speaker 1: too because he wanted to be every everyone against, him,

2593
01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:10,920
Speaker 1: Right so it makes you guys all congregate to like all,

2594
01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:13,600
Speaker 1: right but like that that's the power. Man that that.

2595
01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:16,439
Speaker 1: Was this was. Fun everyone go out and check out

2596
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:20,360
Speaker 1: The Quick snap podcast now ON Nbc. Sports what day.

2597
01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:22,080
Speaker 2: We're working our way. Up it's gonna be On wednesday,

2598
01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 2: NIGHTS i think at six they. Er but it'll also

2599
01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:27,720
Speaker 2: be On, spotify On Apple, podcasts all of those things.

2600
01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:30,800
Speaker 1: Too so we're working at RADIO Nfl Radio SERIOUS xm On.

2601
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:33,880
Speaker 2: Thursday mornings With Solomon wilcotts and then do a few

2602
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:35,560
Speaker 2: in House patriots. THINGS i get to hang out With

2603
01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:37,920
Speaker 2: zoe And bob soci On, tuesday so.

2604
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:40,920
Speaker 1: You've been killing. IT i saw you do what was

2605
01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:42,840
Speaker 1: it a preseason? Game you did some stuff With.

2606
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:45,320
Speaker 2: Tom don't worry, Ever i'm SURE i was waiting for

2607
01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:47,920
Speaker 2: you to knock me on our outfit choice because it

2608
01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:48,559
Speaker 2: was the only.

2609
01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:51,160
Speaker 1: Thing and this isn't the same, outfit. DUDE i just

2610
01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:52,880
Speaker 1: wanted to, SAY i didn't even know it was very

2611
01:53:53,200 --> 01:53:53,559
Speaker 1: in the same.

2612
01:53:53,600 --> 01:53:55,800
Speaker 2: Outfit and this is ALL i want to say IS

2613
01:53:56,560 --> 01:54:00,200
Speaker 2: i was In, Cooperstown New, york Coaching garrett's base ball,

2614
01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:02,479
Speaker 2: team and and then you flew up To New.

2615
01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:02,719
Speaker 1: York.

2616
01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:08,080
Speaker 2: Drove he Played friday, morning the game, ended we drove

2617
01:54:08,200 --> 01:54:11,200
Speaker 2: From cooperstown to, home, showered AND i called my wife

2618
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 2: AND i, said put out this outfit for.

2619
01:54:13,120 --> 01:54:15,080
Speaker 1: ME i wore it last weekend to this.

2620
01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 2: Event it's like these khaki jeans and a navy blue

2621
01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:22,040
Speaker 2: like dress polo and my white. Sneakers And i'm sitting

2622
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:24,160
Speaker 2: there waiting for him to come out for this uh,

2623
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:27,920
Speaker 2: ceremony and he walks out and he's got the same outfit,

2624
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:29,840
Speaker 2: on And i'm, like this is JUST i Know i'm

2625
01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:32,000
Speaker 2: never going to hear the end of, this especially there it.

2626
01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:34,720
Speaker 1: Is he was long. Sleeve Thank. God but the jeans

2627
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:37,280
Speaker 1: were the. SAME i think they were the same. Sneakers

2628
01:54:37,480 --> 01:54:40,160
Speaker 1: Where's tom's chest? HAIR i don't, know but he's A

2629
01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:43,320
Speaker 1: is he a chain? Guy one of the greatest MEMES

2630
01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:46,240
Speaker 1: i saw after this was you guys Watch Righteous. Gemstones

2631
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:49,880
Speaker 1: yes a. LITTLE i Mean tom just needs to die

2632
01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 1: is her wife For? Halloween and he's got the he's

2633
01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:55,920
Speaker 1: got THE i like the. Glasses, yeah there were transition.

2634
01:54:56,040 --> 01:54:58,920
Speaker 1: LENSES i. Think, yeah it's the new Thing i've been.

2635
01:54:58,920 --> 01:55:00,480
Speaker 1: Seeing when you when you get close to, fifty you

2636
01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:03,800
Speaker 1: gotta wear the. Transitions, dude is he actually know he?

2637
01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:04,520
Speaker 1: Does Tom brady.

2638
01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:06,880
Speaker 2: Doesn't those were the same glasses he wore coming, out

2639
01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:09,720
Speaker 2: and they were they were full on. Sunglasses and then

2640
01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:12,320
Speaker 2: here we are at at night under the, lights and

2641
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:13,200
Speaker 2: they transitioned a little.

2642
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 1: Bit they were like to see through Like elvis. Glasses, Man,

2643
01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:18,600
Speaker 1: shit when you're, cool it's Always. Sonny but you're, cool

2644
01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:21,120
Speaker 1: it's Always. Sonny that is. True B, Hoy Thanks, BRO

2645
01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:23,120
Speaker 1: i appreciate. You, man wait for, this love you. To

2646
01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:27,800
Speaker 1: we'll be right back after this quick, break, Man hoy.

2647
01:55:27,920 --> 01:55:30,560
Speaker 1: Dog that was awesome game to go. OVER i. FORGOT

2648
01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:32,920
Speaker 1: i didn't even know that game. EXISTED i forgot. GREAT

2649
01:55:32,960 --> 01:55:35,800
Speaker 1: i Remember, hoy great. Pick he was balling that, year low,

2650
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:38,080
Speaker 1: key he really. Was he looked great and that go

2651
01:55:38,240 --> 01:55:39,920
Speaker 1: back and watch they got the full game on. YouTube

2652
01:55:40,080 --> 01:55:41,600
Speaker 1: he looked pretty. Good and. Watch he's one of those

2653
01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:43,920
Speaker 1: guys you always wish he got a full. Shot never

2654
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:45,920
Speaker 1: got a full, shot and that's because he was. Undrafted,

2655
01:55:46,080 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 1: yeah you gotta like light it up right away for

2656
01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:51,200
Speaker 1: you to get a full. Shot. Party yeah you know

2657
01:55:51,200 --> 01:55:53,040
Speaker 1: WHAT i. Mean perty he, Did that's what he exactly

2658
01:55:53,120 --> 01:55:53,280
Speaker 1: what he.

2659
01:55:53,360 --> 01:55:56,160
Speaker 3: DID i could just tell a last drafted but from

2660
01:55:56,160 --> 01:55:58,720
Speaker 3: our ninety minutes here together With, hoy great locker room,

2661
01:55:58,800 --> 01:55:59,880
Speaker 3: guy great LOCK i could just.

2662
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:04,160
Speaker 1: Know, yeah you, Know, hoy WHEN i said the BACKUP

2663
01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:07,360
Speaker 1: qb has a lot of different, hats he wore a

2664
01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:09,720
Speaker 1: lot of different hats for a lot of different. Guys

2665
01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:14,200
Speaker 1: and not because he's, bald because he's. Bald but, uh you,

2666
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:16,480
Speaker 1: KNOW i Love hoy to. Death we we we had

2667
01:56:16,680 --> 01:56:19,720
Speaker 1: so so much time. Together like he was saying that,

2668
01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:26,120
Speaker 1: earlier is just. Studying, well, wow it's time for the Chill,

2669
01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:29,200
Speaker 1: zone brought to you by Cors. Light get Cors light

2670
01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:34,080
Speaker 1: delivered straight to your. Door is it coreslight Dot, com

2671
01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:38,800
Speaker 1: slash gwn and celebrate. Responsibly before we get into. THIS

2672
01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:41,800
Speaker 1: i love That kyler made The Kyle shanahan mentioned her

2673
01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:44,800
Speaker 1: in that like my brain like that was. Great that was,

2674
01:56:44,840 --> 01:56:46,600
Speaker 1: Great like that was a great. Mention glad that you

2675
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 1: like caught me because like you know that mean when the, guys,

2676
01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:52,720
Speaker 1: yeah just Clicked forrest eight three with all like the

2677
01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:55,200
Speaker 1: yeah stuff.

2678
01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:56,840
Speaker 4: GOING i said one more thing about horror before we.

2679
01:56:56,880 --> 01:57:00,280
Speaker 4: GO i love when a guest comes on who's like

2680
01:57:00,320 --> 01:57:02,520
Speaker 4: familiar with the show and like a picks a great,

2681
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:05,720
Speaker 4: game gets the integrity. Score, yeah honestly it was too,

2682
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:08,600
Speaker 4: LOW i, know but but he he didn't want to

2683
01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:10,280
Speaker 4: go too. Far he didn't want to pump his. Tires

2684
01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:12,640
Speaker 4: he knew what's, Up he knew knew knew the.

2685
01:57:12,720 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 1: Vibe all, Right we're going to pull back the curtain

2686
01:57:15,440 --> 01:57:18,360
Speaker 1: on interacting with opponents in The National Football.

2687
01:57:18,440 --> 01:57:21,200
Speaker 3: League when you've talked in some past, Episodes, jules about

2688
01:57:21,320 --> 01:57:25,880
Speaker 3: battling with different cornerbacks and, safeties, linebackers any guys on other,

2689
01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:28,920
Speaker 3: teams we've gotten comments of kind of what that's like

2690
01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:32,760
Speaker 3: before after, games during, games not just the trash, talk

2691
01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:36,040
Speaker 3: but like what is it like interacting with opponents that

2692
01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:38,280
Speaker 3: you don't, know guys should do know maybe you went

2693
01:57:38,320 --> 01:57:40,960
Speaker 3: to college, with maybe you train together At exos or.

2694
01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:43,400
Speaker 1: Somewhere former teammates on the current, team former.

2695
01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:46,400
Speaker 3: Teammates on the current team you're. On, uh how does

2696
01:57:46,480 --> 01:57:49,200
Speaker 3: that go down before after? Games are you talking to

2697
01:57:49,280 --> 01:57:52,080
Speaker 3: each other during the? Week the classic jersey swaps that

2698
01:57:52,120 --> 01:57:54,240
Speaker 3: we all, see just kind of how does that go

2699
01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 3: down in THE? Nfl what's the, protocol what is the

2700
01:57:58,000 --> 01:57:59,280
Speaker 3: what is the way that you did?

2701
01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:02,280
Speaker 1: It and just kind of that whole. World, yeah you,

2702
01:58:02,360 --> 01:58:06,680
Speaker 1: know our coach used to always, SAY i don't know

2703
01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:10,880
Speaker 1: if YOU i don't be having team meeting before the

2704
01:58:11,000 --> 01:58:14,640
Speaker 1: game with other. Guys, lady we're gonna be playing these,

2705
01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:17,920
Speaker 1: guys none of this like say hi and then move.

2706
01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:20,480
Speaker 1: On AND i took. THAT i listened to my. COACH

2707
01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:25,040
Speaker 1: i listened to. Him that came down From bill down culture.

2708
01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:26,760
Speaker 1: Thing but there would be guys that, would you, know

2709
01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:29,920
Speaker 1: see other, team other guys that they went to school,

2710
01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:32,000
Speaker 1: with or other old teams that they played, with and

2711
01:58:32,080 --> 01:58:33,440
Speaker 1: they would do. That BUT i was never like. THAT

2712
01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:35,680
Speaker 1: i played with The pats the whole whole. TIME i

2713
01:58:35,800 --> 01:58:39,640
Speaker 1: was very into. MYSELF i, mean it's McAfee's talked about

2714
01:58:39,680 --> 01:58:41,240
Speaker 1: it where he tries to talk to all the punt.

2715
01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:43,520
Speaker 1: Returners he tried to. TALK i didn't want to talk to.

2716
01:58:43,640 --> 01:58:46,960
Speaker 1: HIM i was playing mind. GAMES i. WANTED i was visualizing.

2717
01:58:47,120 --> 01:58:49,360
Speaker 1: THAT i was, like gonna run a punt down your fucking,

2718
01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:53,560
Speaker 1: throat OR i was visualizing and thinking up horrific things

2719
01:58:53,720 --> 01:58:56,200
Speaker 1: about other players THAT i had to go compete against

2720
01:58:56,600 --> 01:58:59,920
Speaker 1: because that's what we're about to. Do so shit. Talking,

2721
01:59:00,120 --> 01:59:02,440
Speaker 1: yeah there was shit, talking and that was. DONE i

2722
01:59:02,560 --> 01:59:04,640
Speaker 1: used to do business as business being. Done if a

2723
01:59:04,680 --> 01:59:07,160
Speaker 1: guy was gonna come in and start talking AND i

2724
01:59:07,200 --> 01:59:09,680
Speaker 1: didn't know, him THEN i was gonna talk to him all,

2725
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:11,840
Speaker 1: game AND i was gonna abuse him if he was

2726
01:59:11,880 --> 01:59:13,640
Speaker 1: a little weak AND i knew it got under like

2727
01:59:13,960 --> 01:59:16,960
Speaker 1: a weak mentally you could just sniff that from you

2728
01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:20,520
Speaker 1: a younger, player or you, know a guy that is

2729
01:59:20,920 --> 01:59:23,040
Speaker 1: getting you, KNOW i don't. KNOW i felt LIKE i

2730
01:59:23,280 --> 01:59:26,640
Speaker 1: would get into guys if it was a guy that

2731
01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:30,400
Speaker 1: was their vocal guy who was an enforcer type guy

2732
01:59:30,920 --> 01:59:33,800
Speaker 1: that used to, HIT i would get up AND i

2733
01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:35,720
Speaker 1: would let him know that it didn't, hurt you. Know

2734
01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:37,960
Speaker 1: that was one of my things THAT i always tried to.

2735
01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:41,360
Speaker 1: Do IF i got, BAMBOOZLED i would get up and

2736
01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:43,360
Speaker 1: scream at him and say or say something, like that's

2737
01:59:43,360 --> 01:59:45,520
Speaker 1: all you, got, bro BECAUSE i felt like that was more,

2738
01:59:45,560 --> 01:59:48,240
Speaker 1: deflating you, know and at the, time you, Know i'm

2739
01:59:48,280 --> 01:59:51,240
Speaker 1: fucking banged, up like oh, shit but LIKE i would

2740
01:59:51,240 --> 01:59:52,840
Speaker 1: always try to make a point to let him know

2741
01:59:52,920 --> 01:59:55,640
Speaker 1: it didn't hurt. Me did anyone ever get under your? Skin?

2742
01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:01,400
Speaker 1: Uh what is his?

2743
02:00:01,560 --> 02:00:01,720
Speaker 5: Name?

2744
02:00:02,240 --> 02:00:05,520
Speaker 1: Me and what's his? Name got in a fight the

2745
02:00:05,600 --> 02:00:15,240
Speaker 1: safety from The? Dolphins, No Bobby, Caine. BOBBY i think

2746
02:00:15,280 --> 02:00:17,200
Speaker 1: we talked about this on an Episode, Bobby, yeah what

2747
02:00:17,360 --> 02:00:23,120
Speaker 1: is his? Name two thousand and, Sixteen bobby? McCain bobby,

2748
02:00:23,200 --> 02:00:26,320
Speaker 1: McCain me And. Bobby we just and that was because

2749
02:00:26,360 --> 02:00:28,440
Speaker 1: we played each other so, much you could build up the,

2750
02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:31,440
Speaker 1: history build. Up he was a competitive, player he was

2751
02:00:31,480 --> 02:00:34,720
Speaker 1: a scrappy. PLAYER i THINK i got a penalty for

2752
02:00:34,840 --> 02:00:36,760
Speaker 1: we were talking shit AND i head butted him and

2753
02:00:36,920 --> 02:00:40,920
Speaker 1: got a fifteen. Yarder you, know it all depends on

2754
02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:46,560
Speaker 1: the guys for both, situations like with your interaction before or.

2755
02:00:46,560 --> 02:00:48,720
Speaker 1: AFTER dB is not one of those positions that usually

2756
02:00:48,760 --> 02:00:49,880
Speaker 1: talks much, trash which is.

2757
02:00:50,040 --> 02:00:53,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, now for someone like you're like close With like

2758
02:00:54,040 --> 02:00:55,800
Speaker 4: let's say like you were friends With dola before he

2759
02:00:55,840 --> 02:00:57,320
Speaker 4: came to the, team and you guys played against each

2760
02:00:57,320 --> 02:00:58,600
Speaker 4: other In london against The.

2761
02:00:58,640 --> 02:01:01,160
Speaker 1: Raims, Yeah, like are you tech at all? Beforehand or is? It?

2762
02:01:01,360 --> 02:01:03,840
Speaker 1: NO i. WOULDN'T i. WAS i was, like you're just

2763
02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:05,760
Speaker 1: in your zoned. In. YEAH i didn't like that.

2764
02:01:05,920 --> 02:01:09,320
Speaker 3: Either is there a world where like a guy you'd,

2765
02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:11,960
Speaker 3: Say dola's in, town would you guys go out to

2766
02:01:11,960 --> 02:01:13,280
Speaker 3: eat the night, before hang out the night?

2767
02:01:13,320 --> 02:01:15,080
Speaker 1: Before? Like is that river a world or was that

2768
02:01:15,200 --> 02:01:18,880
Speaker 1: just fantasy? Land, no that. HAPPENS i think with older

2769
02:01:19,160 --> 02:01:22,920
Speaker 1: veteran type players that maybe a guy they played, with you,

2770
02:01:23,000 --> 02:01:25,440
Speaker 1: know that kind of. Stuff i'm sure a lot of

2771
02:01:25,480 --> 02:01:29,400
Speaker 1: guys do. THAT i. DIDN'T i didn't do. THAT i

2772
02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:30,640
Speaker 1: feel LIKE i didn't mean to cut you. Off, no, no,

2773
02:01:30,800 --> 02:01:35,960
Speaker 1: No but MAYBE i don't, know like after the game.

2774
02:01:36,120 --> 02:01:39,000
Speaker 1: Different so what's That after the, game that's when you,

2775
02:01:39,040 --> 02:01:41,960
Speaker 1: know hey, man it was. Good, no no hard, FEELINGS

2776
02:01:42,200 --> 02:01:45,360
Speaker 1: i see. You you, know an offseason potentially and the,

2777
02:01:45,720 --> 02:01:47,480
Speaker 1: exos there would be a couple of GUYS i used

2778
02:01:47,480 --> 02:01:50,440
Speaker 1: to train, with but you, know when when we were

2779
02:01:50,480 --> 02:01:53,640
Speaker 1: going against each other like it was like it almost

2780
02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:56,920
Speaker 1: inhided me wanting to beat the shit out of them

2781
02:01:57,200 --> 02:01:59,440
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i knew them and SO i could talk shit

2782
02:01:59,480 --> 02:02:01,120
Speaker 1: to him out. WORDS i feel like.

2783
02:02:01,160 --> 02:02:04,000
Speaker 3: In, this in this, realm in this, uh this conversation we're,

2784
02:02:04,000 --> 02:02:05,680
Speaker 3: having we throw around the term key key a lot

2785
02:02:05,720 --> 02:02:07,640
Speaker 3: a lot of key, key and you're playing that to the.

2786
02:02:07,680 --> 02:02:11,360
Speaker 1: Folks slate, dog slate. Dog, yeah key keen is when

2787
02:02:11,400 --> 02:02:13,560
Speaker 1: you're over there and you're talking with the, Boys, oh

2788
02:02:13,720 --> 02:02:16,880
Speaker 1: key key ha ha he. He you, Know slate used

2789
02:02:16,880 --> 02:02:19,440
Speaker 1: to throw that around a. Lot you'd be, like, yeah

2790
02:02:19,480 --> 02:02:22,120
Speaker 1: don't be key keen with. Them in, hockey they call

2791
02:02:22,200 --> 02:02:24,560
Speaker 1: it tummy. Sticks tummy sticks you meet at the red, Line,

2792
02:02:24,680 --> 02:02:28,320
Speaker 1: yeah and you got like you're sticking their. Tummies no tummy, sticks, buddy,

2793
02:02:28,360 --> 02:02:31,560
Speaker 1: buddy no, key no. Tummy BUT i think it's, changed you,

2794
02:02:31,640 --> 02:02:35,640
Speaker 1: know like WHEN i FIRST i just remember playing against

2795
02:02:35,640 --> 02:02:37,880
Speaker 1: The jets And Bart scott literally went up to like

2796
02:02:38,520 --> 02:02:42,200
Speaker 1: two inches From billio's face and like, said you're something,

2797
02:02:42,360 --> 02:02:46,800
Speaker 1: crazy play on player on. Coach like that's how it really,

2798
02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:49,080
Speaker 1: like it's kind of gone in a different. Way AND

2799
02:02:49,160 --> 02:02:51,360
Speaker 1: i think that's because we're all a lot more connected

2800
02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:54,080
Speaker 1: with social. Media and we've been seeing and we could

2801
02:02:54,120 --> 02:02:57,400
Speaker 1: shoot A dm like it's not you, know this generation's.

2802
02:02:57,440 --> 02:03:00,960
Speaker 1: Fault it's just literally like you we know guys since

2803
02:03:01,120 --> 02:03:03,520
Speaker 1: that these kids know each other and heard of each

2804
02:03:03,520 --> 02:03:06,120
Speaker 1: other's name and been competing against each other since they

2805
02:03:06,120 --> 02:03:09,200
Speaker 1: were like thirteen AT us seven on seven camp or

2806
02:03:09,240 --> 02:03:13,760
Speaker 1: a receivers they you, basketball you know WHAT i. Mean

2807
02:03:13,880 --> 02:03:16,960
Speaker 1: there's just so much crossover with guys now where there

2808
02:03:17,120 --> 02:03:19,040
Speaker 1: wasn't that when we were. Kids, no that's.

2809
02:03:19,080 --> 02:03:21,480
Speaker 4: True you, know like we guys made the game less.

2810
02:03:21,480 --> 02:03:24,360
Speaker 4: Competitive who that kind of relationship the players.

2811
02:03:24,400 --> 02:03:27,160
Speaker 1: Have, NO i think people are gonna always compete because

2812
02:03:27,200 --> 02:03:30,520
Speaker 1: there's there's that camaraderie of wanting to beat your brother,

2813
02:03:30,640 --> 02:03:33,320
Speaker 1: up you know WHAT i, mean you want to you,

2814
02:03:33,360 --> 02:03:35,080
Speaker 1: know if anyone's gonna, do it's gonna be a, brother

2815
02:03:35,080 --> 02:03:36,360
Speaker 1: you know WHAT i, Mean your, Boy i'm with.

2816
02:03:36,480 --> 02:03:39,200
Speaker 3: You and then that brings us to sort of the

2817
02:03:39,280 --> 02:03:43,160
Speaker 3: piece they, resistance if you, will of this world of

2818
02:03:43,200 --> 02:03:43,680
Speaker 3: interacting with.

2819
02:03:43,760 --> 02:03:47,240
Speaker 1: Players the jersey. Swap, yeah we weren't allowed to do.

2820
02:03:47,320 --> 02:03:51,000
Speaker 1: It our coach would't let. Us, really we couldn't give bless.

2821
02:03:51,120 --> 02:03:55,000
Speaker 1: You we weren't allowed to give our game. Jersey we

2822
02:03:55,120 --> 02:03:59,520
Speaker 1: could send a, jersey but we weren't allowed to give

2823
02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:02,040
Speaker 1: the game jersey because it was a lot of logistics

2824
02:04:02,080 --> 02:04:04,280
Speaker 1: for the equipment staff that has this. CUSTOM i think

2825
02:04:04,280 --> 02:04:05,680
Speaker 1: you have like two or three of them for the

2826
02:04:05,800 --> 02:04:09,200
Speaker 1: year or they're a custom fit to your, body and they.

2827
02:04:09,240 --> 02:04:12,760
Speaker 1: Didn't you, Know it's, LIKE i don't, know we weren't supposed,

2828
02:04:12,800 --> 02:04:15,720
Speaker 1: to so like if anyone want to do jersey, swap

2829
02:04:15,880 --> 02:04:18,560
Speaker 1: we would be, like you, know all, right we'll send you.

2830
02:04:18,680 --> 02:04:20,640
Speaker 1: One you, know our coach doesn't want us to give

2831
02:04:20,680 --> 02:04:24,000
Speaker 1: our ones off our, back which they weren't, free, right

2832
02:04:24,120 --> 02:04:25,480
Speaker 1: we had to pay for them as. Well they're like

2833
02:04:25,520 --> 02:04:28,360
Speaker 1: five on our buds, wos yeah or whatever they. Were

2834
02:04:29,200 --> 02:04:30,680
Speaker 1: nothing was free in The National Football.

2835
02:04:30,760 --> 02:04:33,440
Speaker 4: League, now let's say you mentioned before in an episode

2836
02:04:33,520 --> 02:04:35,440
Speaker 4: talking About Antonio, gates but were there moments when you're

2837
02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:37,800
Speaker 4: younger and like you just played against, her compete against

2838
02:04:37,840 --> 02:04:38,640
Speaker 4: someone you looked up, To.

2839
02:04:39,160 --> 02:04:40,680
Speaker 1: Like what does that look like to go up to talk?

2840
02:04:40,680 --> 02:04:43,440
Speaker 1: TO i remember seeing, them, nah BUT i remember like

2841
02:04:43,520 --> 02:04:46,280
Speaker 1: Seeing Peyton manning for the first, time you, know after

2842
02:04:46,400 --> 02:04:48,880
Speaker 1: we competed against them IN o nine and we lost to,

2843
02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:52,680
Speaker 1: them you, know OR i mean you early in your your.

2844
02:04:52,760 --> 02:04:55,080
Speaker 1: Career you when you saw like the veteran type players

2845
02:04:55,120 --> 02:04:58,680
Speaker 1: that were, stars he'd be, like oh, Man like or

2846
02:04:58,760 --> 02:05:01,800
Speaker 1: WHEN i saw WHEN i Saw Antonio, gates we passed

2847
02:05:01,840 --> 02:05:04,360
Speaker 1: through each other in the hallway and and that was

2848
02:05:04,480 --> 02:05:07,280
Speaker 1: like it was, like, oh what's. UP i think it

2849
02:05:07,400 --> 02:05:09,280
Speaker 1: was after the, game had his shades, on, looking had

2850
02:05:09,320 --> 02:05:11,520
Speaker 1: his shades on at, night looking sweet with a black,

2851
02:05:11,560 --> 02:05:16,120
Speaker 1: sweater big ass. Chain hell yet, yeah so you, KNOW

2852
02:05:16,240 --> 02:05:16,520
Speaker 1: i don't.

2853
02:05:16,560 --> 02:05:18,360
Speaker 3: Know how about the shoe. Beat on the other, foot

2854
02:05:18,640 --> 02:05:19,960
Speaker 3: did some of the young bucks come up to?

2855
02:05:20,040 --> 02:05:23,120
Speaker 1: You, yeah the end at the, end a lot of.

2856
02:05:23,160 --> 02:05:25,520
Speaker 1: Guys that's when you know you get. Old is when

2857
02:05:25,720 --> 02:05:27,760
Speaker 1: you know a guy tackles you and, goes, MAN i

2858
02:05:27,880 --> 02:05:30,360
Speaker 1: used to watch you WHEN i was a, kid you,

2859
02:05:30,440 --> 02:05:33,000
Speaker 1: know or you know stuff like. That the older you get,

2860
02:05:33,320 --> 02:05:35,160
Speaker 1: that you hear that a little. MORE i feel. That

2861
02:05:36,160 --> 02:05:38,400
Speaker 1: it's it's like that always kind of made me. Happy

2862
02:05:38,960 --> 02:05:40,920
Speaker 1: means he was. WATCHING i was JUST i love THAT

2863
02:05:41,280 --> 02:05:42,200
Speaker 1: i GOT i got two.

2864
02:05:42,320 --> 02:05:46,840
Speaker 4: More one is still in the jersey Swap, hypothetically there

2865
02:05:47,000 --> 02:05:49,200
Speaker 4: is a player that you've competed against where you could

2866
02:05:49,280 --> 02:05:51,080
Speaker 4: swap a. Jersey is there someone that comes to mind

2867
02:05:51,120 --> 02:05:53,720
Speaker 4: that you'd want to have their jersey or a game

2868
02:05:54,000 --> 02:05:55,360
Speaker 4: or or them have yours.

2869
02:05:56,920 --> 02:06:00,760
Speaker 1: Off the rip of my. Head Steve. Smith, YEAH i

2870
02:06:00,920 --> 02:06:03,760
Speaker 1: JUST i loved How Steve smith. PLAYED i LOVE i loved.

2871
02:06:03,840 --> 02:06:09,320
Speaker 1: That and he was a, baller you. KNOW i loved

2872
02:06:09,360 --> 02:06:12,080
Speaker 1: watching him plays electric.

2873
02:06:12,120 --> 02:06:15,000
Speaker 4: Fun he's like that perfect balance of like, brash but

2874
02:06:15,120 --> 02:06:17,480
Speaker 4: also you knew that he was doing the work.

2875
02:06:18,480 --> 02:06:20,360
Speaker 1: To, work the physically doing all the. Work but he

2876
02:06:20,440 --> 02:06:22,560
Speaker 1: had that like diva kind of he had the both.

2877
02:06:22,600 --> 02:06:24,160
Speaker 1: Thing i'll ADMIT i was also a little scared of

2878
02:06:24,240 --> 02:06:25,760
Speaker 1: him when he came in The. Nutthouse he keeps you

2879
02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:26,560
Speaker 1: on your.

2880
02:06:29,640 --> 02:06:32,880
Speaker 4: Toes we see as, fans you, know the interactions that

2881
02:06:32,880 --> 02:06:36,520
Speaker 4: are happening on the. Field are there any more conversations interactions,

2882
02:06:36,560 --> 02:06:38,560
Speaker 4: happening you, know in the stadium after the.

2883
02:06:38,640 --> 02:06:42,280
Speaker 1: Game sometimes you'll see you, know look when when you're packed,

2884
02:06:42,360 --> 02:06:46,400
Speaker 1: up you're on the road and you go, in you,

2885
02:06:46,520 --> 02:06:50,040
Speaker 1: shower you, change you do. Media, well the other teams

2886
02:06:50,080 --> 02:06:51,560
Speaker 1: doing that, Too and a lot of times you guys

2887
02:06:51,560 --> 02:06:53,760
Speaker 1: will share the same. Tunnel they'll be going to their,

2888
02:06:53,800 --> 02:06:56,640
Speaker 1: cars will be going to the. Buses so you'll see

2889
02:06:56,680 --> 02:06:59,080
Speaker 1: a guy here and, there or a lot of the

2890
02:06:59,120 --> 02:07:02,080
Speaker 1: times you see. Coach you'll see that are in the

2891
02:07:02,200 --> 02:07:04,520
Speaker 1: box that you don't really they don't get to come.

2892
02:07:04,640 --> 02:07:07,160
Speaker 1: Down you, know you see A dc or a special

2893
02:07:07,200 --> 02:07:08,200
Speaker 1: team coordinator and.

2894
02:07:08,440 --> 02:07:09,120
Speaker 3: You, know, hey you.

2895
02:07:09,200 --> 02:07:10,920
Speaker 1: Don't all that was, good you know WHAT i.

2896
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:14,160
Speaker 4: Mean and the coaching relationships is even more incestus because

2897
02:07:14,160 --> 02:07:16,680
Speaker 4: they're around the football for longer than the, yeahs you, know.

2898
02:07:16,760 --> 02:07:20,480
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah but there is some. INTERACTION i, mean there's that.

2899
02:07:20,600 --> 02:07:24,560
Speaker 1: STORY i remember tom after THAT afc. CHAMPIONSHIP i was

2900
02:07:24,640 --> 02:07:28,120
Speaker 1: walking to go do some media stuff AND i saw

2901
02:07:28,280 --> 02:07:30,560
Speaker 1: him go over and uh near the because with the

2902
02:07:30,640 --> 02:07:33,080
Speaker 1: media was near their locker, ROOM i think or, something

2903
02:07:33,120 --> 02:07:35,040
Speaker 1: AND i, saw you, Know tommy went over and talked

2904
02:07:35,080 --> 02:07:37,960
Speaker 1: To Patrick mahomes after that. GAME i think that's been

2905
02:07:38,040 --> 02:07:40,360
Speaker 1: documented though that people have talked about. That that's so,

2906
02:07:40,520 --> 02:07:44,000
Speaker 1: cool you, know, So i'm Sure tom did it a. Lot.

2907
02:07:44,320 --> 02:07:48,280
Speaker 1: Probably it's also different with that quarterback, relationship get off the,

2908
02:07:48,360 --> 02:07:49,880
Speaker 1: field do it a little bit. MORE i don't. Know,

2909
02:07:49,920 --> 02:07:52,560
Speaker 1: YEAH i don't, know BUT i remember seeing, that and you, see,

2910
02:07:52,640 --> 02:07:56,200
Speaker 1: guys a lot of guys would do, that like behind the,

2911
02:07:56,320 --> 02:08:00,840
Speaker 1: scenes the key key. Stuff so not even even in,

2912
02:08:00,920 --> 02:08:03,520
Speaker 1: retirement the relationship that you AND. A. J brown had

2913
02:08:03,600 --> 02:08:07,480
Speaker 1: was pretty cool. Too oh, YEAH i mean we had

2914
02:08:07,520 --> 02:08:12,440
Speaker 1: a connection BECAUSE i Remember rabel Or Brian bell At

2915
02:08:12,520 --> 02:08:17,640
Speaker 1: tennessee had me talk to him early. ON i found

2916
02:08:17,680 --> 02:08:20,320
Speaker 1: Out rabel tried to trade for me after the eighteen. Season,

2917
02:08:20,560 --> 02:08:25,400
Speaker 1: really whoa what'd you find? Out uh That bill said

2918
02:08:25,440 --> 02:08:29,360
Speaker 1: no wow to the podcast coming on the. Podcast huh

2919
02:08:29,520 --> 02:08:31,160
Speaker 1: he said no to coming on the. Podcast oh, yeah

2920
02:08:31,200 --> 02:08:32,640
Speaker 1: that was a trading or Not?

2921
02:08:32,760 --> 02:08:38,080
Speaker 3: BILL i, mean, man my man On broadway down In.

2922
02:08:38,160 --> 02:08:39,000
Speaker 3: NASHVILLE i could see.

2923
02:08:39,040 --> 02:08:39,800
Speaker 1: THAT i.

2924
02:08:39,920 --> 02:08:43,680
Speaker 5: KNOW i would part, though get you a, truck some.

2925
02:08:43,800 --> 02:08:47,560
Speaker 5: Boots not too late to play For rabel saying it's

2926
02:08:47,560 --> 02:08:52,120
Speaker 5: a little too. Late, awesome that's a great. Nugget great

2927
02:08:52,160 --> 02:08:52,600
Speaker 5: question from.

2928
02:08:52,640 --> 02:08:55,320
Speaker 1: Comments keep him up any more follow, ups keep him

2929
02:08:55,440 --> 02:08:58,080
Speaker 1: drop him in. There old coaches from like OLD i

2930
02:08:58,120 --> 02:09:01,960
Speaker 1: would always say hi to those, guys like coaches like

2931
02:09:05,560 --> 02:09:09,080
Speaker 1: Like Bobby, babbage THE dc for The. BEARS i had

2932
02:09:09,160 --> 02:09:11,240
Speaker 1: them At. KENT i always like to see the guys

2933
02:09:11,280 --> 02:09:14,640
Speaker 1: that WERE i remember grinding and they were like you,

2934
02:09:14,720 --> 02:09:17,800
Speaker 1: know Or dean pas when he was with The. Ravens you,

2935
02:09:17,840 --> 02:09:20,200
Speaker 1: know he was the head coach Of. KENT i would

2936
02:09:20,240 --> 02:09:22,680
Speaker 1: always see like My kent. GUYS i mean there just

2937
02:09:22,840 --> 02:09:26,040
Speaker 1: wasn't many of, them SO i couldn't be key keying

2938
02:09:26,160 --> 02:09:29,040
Speaker 1: like The alabama guys or the other. Guys so you

2939
02:09:29,080 --> 02:09:33,880
Speaker 1: should probably as those guys, MAN i mean, awesome that's so.

2940
02:09:34,000 --> 02:09:37,080
Speaker 1: Cool good, segment good, segment more questions than. Comments you've

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