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Speaker 1: Oh, good time, Steve Tasker. Touchdown, touchdown, touch downtime. Hello there,

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Speaker 1: welcome to Orchard Park. It's a sunny day and Orchard

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Speaker 1: Partner or a little bluster, a little breezy. It's the uh,

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Speaker 1: it's our show. One goes Hide from one Goals Drive

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Speaker 1: right next door to newer Afield where stadium looks great today.

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Speaker 1: Blue guys and blue seats, and we're inside the studio

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Speaker 1: here right next door in our one Buffalo studio at

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Speaker 1: the ad Pro Sports Training Center. Good afternoon, John Murphy

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Speaker 1: and my broadcast partner's team Tasker here to Tuesday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Ready to talk some bills football with you. Election Day

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Speaker 1: all over the country, Steve, Happy Election Day. I voted

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Speaker 1: this morning. I feel good about it. Did I you did?

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Speaker 1: I know you did. As matter of fact, we reviewed

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Speaker 1: your votes, I mean my Russian operatives and I reviewed

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Speaker 1: your votes and the site made a few alterations to

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Speaker 1: what you had in mind. But you're all good now.

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Speaker 1: I know you voted. It was good to vote. It

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Speaker 1: felt good. It was crowded too where I voted in

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Speaker 1: Orchard Park. What about there are some folks in there.

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Speaker 1: There's the parking lot. Was I mean? I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what is it voting District ten. There's

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Speaker 1: voting District eight and voting District ten that are right

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Speaker 1: in the Where do you vote east Aora, like in

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Speaker 1: the village hall in the county bar righting a garage,

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Speaker 1: I was over there and a lot of people in there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: District eight and District ten are right next to each

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Speaker 1: other and always have to I can never remember which

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Speaker 1: in and they checked for me and it was great.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was good. Where I vote right around

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Speaker 1: the corner here in Nativity School in Orchard Park, I

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Speaker 1: think there's four districts and it was packed. I mean

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Speaker 1: people couldn't you know how you get your thing and

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Speaker 1: you sit down and you're marking, you're filling your blanks,

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Speaker 1: your holes. You had to wait for a seat to

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Speaker 1: and I think they're voting the right way. But even

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Speaker 1: if they're not for blessing Mary exactly. You feel good.

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Speaker 1: ABO tell you what I I there's something something in

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Speaker 1: this election. Forget about all that whatever else there is,

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Speaker 1: you know about who you voted for. I'm really the

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Speaker 1: thinking is about getting I like it when people get

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Speaker 1: I think we you know, so much goes good for

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Speaker 1: We don't do it enough. I wish everybody would vote,

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Speaker 1: it said. You know, you always get a sense of

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Speaker 1: doing the right thing when you vote. You know, no

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Speaker 1: matter how you vote, you always feel like, you know

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Speaker 1: what I've had I had to say, you feel like

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Speaker 1: you haven't staken it right. You have the game. And

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Speaker 1: you know what else? I too thing And I think

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Speaker 1: of there's a lot of sacrifice in that, right, a

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate it too, very appreciated it. It was appreciate.

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Speaker 1: I feel good about voting. I encourage you to vote.

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Speaker 1: I know Steve does well, holds her up until nine p.

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Speaker 1: those guys, I've done that before. You want to go vote,

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Speaker 1: Everybody's pitching for it, you know, I mean everybody you

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Speaker 1: and it's a great TV night tonight, it really is.

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna do it like four or five o'clock

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Speaker 1: this afternoon, because look, you got you got college basketball.

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Speaker 1: go to the Kinnesius basketball They haven't played at home

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Speaker 1: the Saves games Canisius, you Cansius basketball watch. We're big

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Speaker 1: Football Morning in America. He wrote another interesting column yesterday.

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Speaker 1: him a full week of price. And that was That

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Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense, no question. But I'll say this,

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Speaker 1: if he's healthy, one hundred percent, man, he's in I

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Speaker 1: He's got to be. You know, I'm saying one hundred

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Speaker 1: the others. There is, I believe a benefit if you

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Speaker 1: the object of rushing him back right, Why do I agree?

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Speaker 1: Make sense? Obviously, I mean we're all on that same page.

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Speaker 1: took him one full year to build a defense on

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Speaker 1: this team, and they built a really good one. The

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills defense is a top five defense. They haven't

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Speaker 1: spent too much time on the offense though, and you

427
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Speaker 1: know that. I mean, they brought in Kelvin Benjamin. They

428
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Speaker 1: brought in, They plugged in Dion Dawkins at left tackle,

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Speaker 1: and seems although the offensive line struggling this year, I

430
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Speaker 1: mean he came in and took it away from Cordy Glenn.

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Speaker 1: They brought in, Uh, they traded for Kelvin Benjamin. Hasn't

432
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Speaker 1: been a productive move at all for lots of reasons.

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Speaker 1: LaShaun McCoy continues to be here. I think they still

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Speaker 1: try and get him much out of him. But you know,

435
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Speaker 1: this is an offense that is struggling right now. The

436
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Speaker 1: defense is not, but the offense can't find itself. And

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Speaker 1: that's you know, that's obviously job one in my opinion, Murph,

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Speaker 1: that's job one in the off season. Absolutely yeah, fix

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Speaker 1: what's wrong, Which gets it to our Twitter question today,

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Speaker 1: not a pole, but a question something we'd like to

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Speaker 1: discuss with you, not counting quarterback Josh Allen. Give us

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Speaker 1: three players on the Buffalo offense that they can build

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Speaker 1: around in twenty nineteen. Give us a call. We'll discuss

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Speaker 1: eight oh three oh five fifty toll free from outside

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Speaker 1: Buffalo one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty

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Speaker 1: or on Twitter at one Bills Live Again. Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: is a given, so don't count him. Can you give

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Speaker 1: us three players on offense that the Bills can build

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Speaker 1: around in twenty nineteen? I have a hard time with

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Speaker 1: this one. Steve, I'll go, Dawkins is one. I thought

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Speaker 1: about this a lot. I guess is a Jones I

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Speaker 1: would count in that group, although I need to see

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Speaker 1: a lot more from him and Lashawan McCoy, who we've

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Speaker 1: been told by the general manager is going to be

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Speaker 1: back next year. I still think he's got a lot

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Speaker 1: to offer other than that. When you look at the

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Speaker 1: offensive depth chart for the Buffalo Bills, they have a

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Speaker 1: hard time giving you three players you can build around.

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Speaker 1: And I'm trying to think, obviously there's going to be

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Speaker 1: more than three players the current depth chart on offense

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Speaker 1: that are going to be on the roster next year.

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Speaker 1: But I guess I'm thinking in terms of who do

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Speaker 1: you really need on offense to have back next year

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Speaker 1: from this year? Who do you really need? Um? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Josh Allen, Well, Sean McCoy Zay Jones. I

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Speaker 1: have a hard time going anybody beyond that. I gotta

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Speaker 1: say yeah, I'm sorry, that sorry. And that's the same

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Speaker 1: thing in the tweet sheets coming through as well from

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Speaker 1: Patrick Canfield, he says, I think Shady has gas left

470
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Speaker 1: in the tank. I think Jason Krum can be a

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Speaker 1: great tight end reaching for a third maybe Dion Dawkins.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of where everybody's at right now, because those

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Speaker 1: are you're really looking, because listen, you gotta be honest.

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Speaker 1: This offense is struggling like no other offense this town

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Speaker 1: team in this league has ever seen. It's bad. And

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Speaker 1: you know you got you got young quarterbacks, injured quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: You guys just coming in trying to get acclimated off

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Speaker 1: the street, trying to get acclimated play quarterback. Your offensive

479
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Speaker 1: lines not pushing anybody around consistently. You've heard Sean McDermott say,

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Speaker 1: we gotta win the line of scrimage. We gotta win

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimage. We gotta win the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: They're not winning the line a scrimmage. He keeps having

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Speaker 1: to say it, and a week after week, the offensive

484
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Speaker 1: line is not getting it done upfront, which means Lashawn

485
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Speaker 1: McCoy Chris Ivory are banging their heads against the wall.

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Speaker 1: And that's no help to a young quarterback like Nate Peterman.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's there's a lot going on here the

488
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Speaker 1: wide receivers. And you read the article about from Jim Kubiak.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't believe the wide receivers are getting good enough

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Speaker 1: separation on certain routes. They're missing some concepts when they

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Speaker 1: release off the ball. I've seen it as well. So

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Speaker 1: this offense it's going to be a struggle. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's it's been a struggle for all everybody involved, even

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Speaker 1: the guys who you might want to think take a

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Speaker 1: look at. Hey, you don't know yet. I mean you

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Speaker 1: don't know. If Zay Jones, I mean yea, I would think,

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Speaker 1: And it's been my observation. We've talked about it. I think,

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Speaker 1: say Jones has taken a step forward this year. Would

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Speaker 1: he be even better if everybody else was playing a

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Speaker 1: little better? Maybe? Yeah? Maybe yeah. Jason Krum, Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: he double caught the ball the other day and then

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Speaker 1: ended up coughing it up for the And I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you how much you hold that against him.

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Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins. Yeah, you gotta have a left tackle, and

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Speaker 1: he's played okay, although in mostly in pass pro, not

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Speaker 1: so much in run pro. I've seen Dion get smoked

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Speaker 1: once or twice this year. It was very interesting when

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Speaker 1: Great Cosell, who crunches video like no One, talked about

509
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Speaker 1: how the Bill's offensive line struggles and mentioned Dion Dawkins

510
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Speaker 1: has said, you know, coming out in the draft, many

511
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Speaker 1: people thought he was a guard, not a tackle. Maybe

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Speaker 1: that's the case with him. I don't know. That's something

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Speaker 1: to give an eye in the offseason. Yeah, and that's

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Speaker 1: one thing the offensive lineman. I know, and I'm the

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Speaker 1: last person ask about offensive line shuffling them around, but

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Speaker 1: you know, you can a lot of guys, a lot

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Speaker 1: of teams have philosophy lesson We're you're never going to

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Speaker 1: draft see us drafted guard. We're gonna draft offensive tackles

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Speaker 1: from the college ranks and move them in three feet

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Speaker 1: and make them guards because they like the size, they

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Speaker 1: like the athleticism of those guys coming out of college.

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Speaker 1: And they've already got guys who are big, genetic freaks

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Speaker 1: playing left tackle, right tackle, and they figure the next

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Speaker 1: guy in is that type of player, and then you've

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Speaker 1: got a nice athletic offensive line who are all big.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of the philosophy. Now you're seeing more and

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Speaker 1: more teams pluck interior linement from the college ranks, centers

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Speaker 1: and guards as well. So that and the reason I

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Speaker 1: get into that as to say, you know, maybe Deon Dawkins,

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Speaker 1: maybe Jordan Mills do move in three feet, maybe they

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Speaker 1: do become guards in their third or fourth year, when

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Speaker 1: the when the Bills start to escalate their investment in

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Speaker 1: the offensive line, in the offensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting to think about. But that's the Twitter question,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's a it's a tough question to answer

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Speaker 1: given the tough one current state of their offense. On

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet from Warren Shoul when we asked a

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Speaker 1: question other than Josh Allen, which three players on the

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Speaker 1: offense could the Bills count on building around next year?

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Speaker 1: Warren Show responds, Dion Dawkins, Zay Jones, and Wyatt Teller.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully he has a good game. He had a good game.

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Speaker 1: It would be nice to have some continuity on the

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Speaker 1: lane going in the next year. Your would you, I say,

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Speaker 1: have good players too? And a continuity and some good players,

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Speaker 1: and I think they need more. I don't know about why.

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Speaker 1: I tell her, I have a feeling we're going to

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Speaker 1: see more of him, maybe much more of him, in

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Speaker 1: the final seven games of the year, and he might

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Speaker 1: have a better sense of what he can bring, what

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Speaker 1: he can add to the mix after these next seven games.

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Speaker 1: This is a question we should probably revisit at the

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Speaker 1: end of the year. Let's take a phone call Edric

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Speaker 1: from New Jersey. Hello, Edric, go ahead, Hey, gentleman, how

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Speaker 1: are you guys doing. Okay, I've been old in this

555
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Speaker 1: hold my judgment for two months now, two months okay,

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Speaker 1: And I mean it's I mean, Kelvin Benjamin, I'm gonna stay.

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Speaker 1: He's playing himself out of the NFL. I just I've

558
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Speaker 1: never seen someone she will watch receiver and just I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's this little effort. He doesn't break down his box.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't, he has no sudden necessarily that's cuts. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is horrible. I put that Thirdain inception on him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, cut the cornerback's face. You know what that was?

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Speaker 1: You whenever through his face or he's just he's just

564
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Speaker 1: being terrible. Either. I think I hear you, but it's

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Speaker 1: hard hearing you. But I got the sense you're not

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Speaker 1: a Yeah, you're not a fan. Yeah, I mean, okay,

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Speaker 1: can you hear me a little better? There? There you

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Speaker 1: go go ahead? Okay. Um, the offensive line wise, I

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Speaker 1: feel like some offensive coaches posistant coaches. I think they

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Speaker 1: have to go. I think Castillo has really done nothing

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Speaker 1: since he's been here. You know, he brought over Ducas

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Speaker 1: from Baltimore and he made him into a service civil guard.

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Speaker 1: But aside from that, I mean, I mean, Dawkins hasn't

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Speaker 1: gotten better, Miller has gotten worse. Mills is what Mills is.

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Speaker 1: You know you're bringing Goldine well. I think he probably

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Speaker 1: asked for uh think you I could work something with him,

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Speaker 1: and he's just as bad. He's just as bad as

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Speaker 1: he wasn't Cincinnati. You know, you can't have the linebackers

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Speaker 1: coming in free through the line still and you're week

580
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Speaker 1: nine to the NFL, you know, and and even Moose

581
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Speaker 1: brought that up in the game this week. You can't

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Speaker 1: have that. That's technique errors. Castillo has got to go.

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Speaker 1: Cully's got to go. I mean, Cully, I don't even

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. Maybe make him assistant head coach

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Speaker 1: and bringing someone because Cully's been working with Peterman for

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Speaker 1: two years and Peterman is still exactly what he is.

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Speaker 1: He's terrible and John and see, we've seen guys like

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Speaker 1: Jeff Toole, We've seen some bad guys here. Peterman is

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Speaker 1: just really not good. I gave him a shot to

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Speaker 1: show me. He had a great preseason, but man, he's

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Speaker 1: just how do you think you think? So tell me

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Speaker 1: about what you saw him in Peterman this last weekend.

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Speaker 1: It's the same, it's the same stuff. You know, what

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Speaker 1: he did good this weekend. He didn't throw that boundary

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Speaker 1: ball that out that he always gets picked on. He

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Speaker 1: stayed away from that. That's the only thing he did

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Speaker 1: well this week. He's the same guy he's been since

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Speaker 1: last year. You know, he's just Yeah, I agree with that,

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00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: he is the same. Um. Yeah, I would say this,

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Speaker 1: and we're not asking thank you for your calle drink.

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Speaker 1: We didn't ask you about coaching changes yet. I understand

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Speaker 1: that you're looking for some coaching changes. I would I

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Speaker 1: would say, there's still almost half season to go here,

604
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Speaker 1: it's a little bit early still to talk about change.

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Speaker 1: This coach swapped this coach out I think that's a

606
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Speaker 1: little premature, and it's difficult to know how much it's

607
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Speaker 1: the coaches and how much it's the player. As at

608
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Speaker 1: former guy that you know, I was a player, I

609
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Speaker 1: was never a coach. I tend to point the arrow

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Speaker 1: towards the players more than the coaches. Now, there's no

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Speaker 1: question coaching makes a difference. I can't deny that at all,

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Speaker 1: and I wouldn't. I've been changed and helped by a

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Speaker 1: number of guys who are fantastic coaches, Absolutely no question

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Speaker 1: about it. But even the most even the greatest coaches around,

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Speaker 1: will tell you if the guy is not committed and

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Speaker 1: doesn't put in the work and doesn't put out the effort,

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Speaker 1: the coaches aren't going to make a difference. Now you

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Speaker 1: can say you can got a coach that can bring

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Speaker 1: that out of a guy. In the pro level, it's

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Speaker 1: a little different. You got a coach making a tenth

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Speaker 1: of what the players making that has a little bit

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Speaker 1: of that adds a little level of difficulty the coach's

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Speaker 1: job that player. You can't the job though, that is

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Speaker 1: the job and that's what they sign up for, But

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that the player can't make it impossible.

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Speaker 1: For the coach to do a good job. And I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I always put the blame first on the players, not

628
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Speaker 1: the coaches. And if coaching changes are made, it's because

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Speaker 1: there's a coach who is evaluating the relationship and what

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Speaker 1: that coach is doing, what's being said in the locker room,

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Speaker 1: in the meeting rooms and all that, and then he's

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Speaker 1: in a position to know if he needs a better

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Speaker 1: guy at that spot on his staff. And if that happens, well,

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Speaker 1: you got to trust the guy knows what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: But from us out here, it's almost impossible to evaluate that.

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Speaker 1: And I know people love going down the road where

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Speaker 1: the offensive schemes are this or the offensive schemes or

638
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: that listen this offense. Man, I don't know. I don't

639
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: know how short the men you could possibly be. Given

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00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: the quarterback situation for the Bills, and given the fact

641
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: that they can't do stuff on the outside outside the numbers,

642
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: they can't do stuff. They got guys who can't win

643
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: on one on one, they can't win. And you know,

644
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: they got guys making mistakes on rub routes. You got

645
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Speaker 1: guys making mistakes on concepts who can't carry that stuff

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Speaker 1: out or can't win, and so I I just think

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Speaker 1: it's hard to evaluate. I'm just not going to throw

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Speaker 1: the coaches under the bus, none of them until until

649
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Speaker 1: you know, the end of the season at least, and

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Speaker 1: then I'm gonna watch and I'm gonna watch Sean McDermott.

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00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch Sean McDermott adjust his staff if he

652
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: needs to. If he doesn't, then you can say, particularly

653
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Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the football, then you can

654
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: know what we all see, and it's it is the players.

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Speaker 1: It is the players that just aren't good enough. All right.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about Jimmy Kubiak's article in the Buffalo News.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk with jim Kubiak about that article in

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Speaker 1: just a moment. Come on back to that. John Murphy,

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Speaker 1: Steve Taser just getting started. One Bill's Life presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalaida Health from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show One Bills Live from One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Drive, John Murphy, Steve Tasker Company from our One

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Speaker 1: Buffalo studio on this Tuesday. Bills players off dat tomorrow

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Speaker 1: to begin to practice week for the New York Jets.

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Speaker 1: We're still talking a little bit about a lot actually

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Speaker 1: about Sunday's game against the Chicago Bears. Joining us right

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Speaker 1: now in the Subway fresh take Hotline. The all time

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Speaker 1: leading passer at the US Naval Academy, he played in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, NFL Europe, the Arena Football League. Has been

670
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Speaker 1: a coach and executive in the Arena Football the eight

671
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: years as a radio analyst for UB Football. He now

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Speaker 1: runs the Western New York Quarterback Academy. Happy to have

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Speaker 1: Jim Kubiak my neighbor here in o your park on

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Speaker 1: the subway, fresh take Hotline for us, Jimmy, Before you

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Speaker 1: get any questions, Ji, I want to pay you a compliment.

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Speaker 1: You have done a great job on your leaves this

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Speaker 1: year up at Eagle Heights. Really have your long luswe

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Speaker 1: test well. Thank you guys, Thank you for having me

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Speaker 1: on him out. I'm looking forward to this. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know I've read your stuff every week since you

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Speaker 1: since you started writing these. You do a weekly post

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Speaker 1: analyzing quarterback play. It's been it's been a good year

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00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: to do that for the Buffalo Bills. You've had a

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00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: lot of different guys to look at, but you really

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Speaker 1: wrote something that that kind of stuck with me today.

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Speaker 1: Steve and I were talking about it this morning about

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Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman's performance, A solid performance you said against the

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. Tell us about you have in mind there, Jim,

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Speaker 1: what'd you see? Well, you know, when you're greating quarterbacks

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00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: for players for that matter of you know, you're looking

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Speaker 1: at did they do their job? And I think sometimes

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Speaker 1: when you have ugly losses, or there's momentum, or there's

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Speaker 1: derogatory statements that are said, you know, across the area,

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Speaker 1: you kind of get blinded by, you know, what's really happening.

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Speaker 1: And if you go and look at that game film,

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Speaker 1: those eighty one plays and asked himself, Hey, did Nathan

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Speaker 1: Peterman do his job in each of those plays? I

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Speaker 1: think you come out with an overwhelming yes. And you know,

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Speaker 1: we don't like to hear that as fans. You want

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Speaker 1: to win, and you know that's that's number one. But

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Speaker 1: you know it's not all on Nathan Peterman. No, Nathan

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00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: Peterman is not a guy that was signed or drafted

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00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: for that matter, to carry the Buffalo Bills by himself.

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Speaker 1: And so, you know, I think one of the refreshing

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Speaker 1: things that comes from analyzing the quarterbacks in this way

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00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: is that it's very objective, and you know, I try

707
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Speaker 1: not to listen or watch anything before I agreed these

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00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: these games, and I try to come out with something objective.

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Speaker 1: And the overwhelming answer to that question in this past

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Speaker 1: week was he played pretty well, maybe his best game

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Speaker 1: as a Buffalo Bill. Well, there's no question it was

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00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: his best game. It's it's the only one he actually

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Speaker 1: got to the end of. And maybe by default, because

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Speaker 1: you know, you think about it, they couldn't put they

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Speaker 1: couldn't put Barkley in. He didn't know any enough to

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Speaker 1: do it, and Peterman was healthy enough to keep playing.

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Speaker 1: And you're right. I mean the interceptions, and we've seen

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00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: that a couple even last year. This whole landslide of

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Speaker 1: interceptions that has hallmarked Peterman's career started with a doink

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Speaker 1: golf of Pat DeMarco's head. I mean, every time he throws,

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Speaker 1: it's like all those guys have teamed up and said, hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: when Peterman throws you the ball, we're gonna bat that

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Speaker 1: thing in the air like it's volleyball, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: sabotage his career. You know. So there's a little bit

725
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: of that. I'm laughing. Obviously I'm joking. I don't really

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00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: mean that to be true, but but that's kind of

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Speaker 1: the snake bitten way that some of his interceptions have happened,

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00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: no question. And you know it's interesting I went back

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00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: and crated that film as well, and you know there

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Speaker 1: was several times in that game that those interceptions were

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Speaker 1: not on Nathan Peterman. You're right, it goes off the

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Speaker 1: guy's face mask through his hand up in the air

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Speaker 1: and they return it for a pick six. You know

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Speaker 1: there's a couple times in that game Steve going back

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Speaker 1: where you know he's getting hit and throwing the ball

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Speaker 1: late down the middle. You know, better to take a

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Speaker 1: sack or just throw it away. I think you know,

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Speaker 1: as young player in from a young quarterbacks perspective, you know,

739
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: guys want to make plays. They're trying to help their

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Speaker 1: team win, sometimes too much. And you know when you

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Speaker 1: watch the KG veterans play at the NFL level, Brady

742
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: in particular, man, if it's not there at the balls

743
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: in the ground immediately, and you know, that's hard to teach.

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00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: It's hard to have a guy who's pressing to make

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00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: the team and make plays to teach him that but

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00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: you're right, he's had a slew of interceptions and some

747
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: of them really aren't his fault. But the learning I

748
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: think in his situation is don't force it, if you

749
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: don't like it, if you don't like it for any reason,

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00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: don't let it go. And you know, I think that's

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Speaker 1: something that we saw a little bit of in that

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Speaker 1: second quarter at the end of the At the end

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00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: of the quarter, you know, his job was to throw

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Speaker 1: it up in the back of the end zone. I

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00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: really believe that he didn't throw up because he didn't

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Speaker 1: want to end the half on interception. That's really my

757
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: belief on that with Jim Kubiak, a long time quarterback

758
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: at the US Naval Academy runs a Western York Quarterback Academy,

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00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: wrote a very interesting piece in the Buffalo News about

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Speaker 1: the Nathan Peterman's performance. You go through all the interceptions

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00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: and talk about what happened, but it was the first

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Speaker 1: one that you wrote about Jim, the Terrell Prior interception,

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00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: that they found interesting and it almost opens the door,

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Speaker 1: I think for people to understand that interceptions aren't always

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Speaker 1: just the quarterback's problem, right, That one in particular, well,

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00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: that one in particular I mean he's hanging in the

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00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: pocket and he's got Prior coming across the middle, you know,

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00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: and Steve. You know, as as a wide receiver, you

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00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: want to stay friendly to the football. You want to

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00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: come back to the football. And you know, in that case,

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00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: the balls on time and the right location. And as

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Speaker 1: Prior's coming back, maybe not enough, maybe not enough energy,

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he needs to make that play. I mean,

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00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: that's got nothing to do with the quarterback. It's on time,

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00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: in the right location. And you know, unfortunately Prior's offer

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00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: to get the football kicks it up in the air

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00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: and right into a defender's hands. And you know, that's

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00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: something that the quarterback can only take care of his

779
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: side of it. And that is the read being on

780
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: time and being in the right location, and and so

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00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: that's a tough one to swallow as a quarterback. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what are some of the things you see from the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff and scheme. It seems to me that the

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Speaker 1: offense is limited because of what's going on around Nathan Peterman.

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00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: What's your take on the on the schemes, on the

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00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: players on the offensive line. Give us a little bit more,

787
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: because I figure you probably not just a quarterback, but

788
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: you probably got an idea of what's going on around

789
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: him as well. Well. First of all, Brian Dable, it

790
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: must be the hardest working in the Buffalo Bills. I

791
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: mean he's got a new quarterback every week and trying

792
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: to get guys ready who haven't played, the guys who

793
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: are you know, coming in from everywhere. That's a really

794
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: tough job for a for a coordinator. But in Peterman's

795
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: case in particular, I think, you know, there's a good

796
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: body of work there from training camp where you know

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00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: Brian Dable is knows what Peterman does well. He tries

798
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: to get those wide receivers who means to try to

799
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: get a nice rhythm going. They try to change it

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00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: up inside. You know, Uh, the running game would absolutely help,

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00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we're just not getting that kind

802
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: of production to take the pressure off the quarterback. But

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00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: you know, I like some of the things that I

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00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: see from Dable. You know, he'll line up and looks

805
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: like a six man protection and when they bring that

806
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: that six guy, you know, the fullback is out in

807
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: the flat and we're throwing hot. I think Peterman does

808
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: that rather well compared to some of the other guys

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00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: on the roster. But I like what Dable's trying to do.

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00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: It's just not at the level of execution that it

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00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: needs to be to really be successful. And you know,

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00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: take the second interception by Nathan Peterman in that game,

813
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: and it's a wide receiver screen. It's got nothing to

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00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: do with a read or anything. It's simply you know

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00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: the old rocket where the guy goes up and comes

816
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: back underneath and you put the ball right on his chest.

817
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: What a great defensive play, but a poor play inside

818
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: by that wide receiver not running that little rub interference

819
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: and you know that kind of thing. That's a great

820
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: play on the board. You know that works on the

821
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: board every time. But if you're not getting the execution,

822
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: I think that's where Dable is being frustrated. And you know,

823
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: we see so many different screens trying to get McCoy going,

824
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: trying to get the Wildcat going, trying to get something going,

825
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: and I think that's challenging. I mean, I think it's

826
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: challenging because I don't I think Dabel wants to be something.

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00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 1: You know, he comes from New England, he's been in Alabama,

828
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: he's been at with the bast and the brightest, and

829
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: I think he wants to develop the Buffalo Bills into something,

830
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: but I don't think he knows what that is yet

831
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: because we've been reeling with this quarterback situation, and Jim,

832
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: we don't have a whole lot of time. But I

833
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: don't want to ask you a question about back to

834
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman and his potential ceiling as an NFL quarterback

835
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Speaker 1: and where do you think that might be, Especially you're

836
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: thinking in terms of McDermott's announcement yesterday that if Derek

837
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: Anderson is back end Peterman's healthy, he would go to Anderson,

838
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: which he gets me wondering about what the Bills think

839
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: his ceiling is peterman ceiling? What do you think? How

840
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: good might he be someday in the NFL? Nathan Peterman, Well,

841
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 1: you know, I've I've read some things and heard some things,

842
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: you know, people asking he's not an NFL quarterback? You know,

843
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: why is he there? I think that's false. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's he's a guy that is in development and been

845
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: in put into some really tough situations and he's had

846
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: some really bad things happen to him in those situation.

847
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: Can he make the throws? Yes? Does he have the

848
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: operational skills to be successful. Yes, Is he a starting

849
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: quarterback right now? No? I think everyone would would agree

850
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: with that. And you know, if he's a guy that

851
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: is on a team that's running the ball for one

852
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards a game and they can play

853
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: action and they can take some pressure off of him,

854
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: he does better. But I think absolutely that you're going

855
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: to find that Nathan Peterman is a serviceable guy with

856
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: a great attitude and in a hard worker. I think

857
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 1: he's going to be around, whether he's with the Buffalo

858
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: Bills or not. I think he does have value and

859
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: whether that's as a number two or number three, the

860
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: experiences that he's had thus far our gun and pay

861
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: dividends and make him a more valuable commodity down the

862
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: line if he's in that backup role. Interesting, Jim, thanks

863
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: for this. I had to say, I'm listening to a

864
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: lot of you be football having a great year, but

865
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: I miss here in your perspective on the balls. I

866
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: bet you you're missing that as well because they're playing

867
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: so well these days. Huh yeah, I miss it. And

868
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, boy, I'll tell you they're doing a great

869
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: job over at youb and and I wish them the best.

870
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: I missed my friend Paul Pack too. That was fun

871
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: doing those games. Yeah, I bet it was. Jim, thanks

872
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: for this. We appreciate it. Thank you, guys. Jim Kubiak,

873
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: former Navy quarterbacks at twenty two school records for the

874
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: US Naval Academy. He runs a Western New York quarterback Academy.

875
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: Joined us on the Subway Fresh Take Hut Line presented

876
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: by Subway Restaurants Proud to be locally owned and operated.

877
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Speaker 1: A little post. An article in the Buffalo News from

878
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: Jim Kubiak ugly loss to starts, Nathan Peterman's solid performance.

879
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: There's a lot to talk about there, and Steve and

880
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: I'll do it when we come back. One Bill's Live

881
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio, one of

882
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: those live. It is pouring rain out there and blowing.

883
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: Steve the weather. We worked in here forty five minutes ago,

884
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes ago, the weather was beautiful outside, and now

885
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: it's changed. The winds are howling, the rain is the

886
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: Goldposter sway. It's crazy. What's going on. It's a wall.

887
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: I would enjoy talking to Jim Kubiak. He's a great

888
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: guy of number one, number two. He's look, I don't

889
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 1: read much of anything in the Buffalo News. I'm sorry

890
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: to say about the Bills anyway, but every Kooba read

891
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: Kubiak stuff every week, and he's you know, he's there

892
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: to cover the quarterbacks, and what do you know? The

893
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: Bills have started about four different guys or three different

894
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: guys four different times or quarterback. He's got a lot

895
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: to write about. And I'm not trying to convince you

896
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: that Jimmy Koubyaki belongs to the Hall of Fame or

897
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: that Nathan Peterman belongs to hall of fame. But it's

898
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: worth reading ugly lost the starts. Nathan Peterman's solid performance,

899
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: he calls it solid. I called it okay. Yesterday we

900
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: got accused of being demented because we didn't agree with

901
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: that My mentality that Peterman's performance was disgraceful and he

902
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: should never leave the house again, which is where some

903
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: people are. And I don't think that's the case. Neither

904
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: just Kobya, neither you or right, No, I don't. I

905
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: mean he said he could be an NFL COO in development.

906
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: That's the important thing too. For Peterman. It was his

907
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: fourth NFL start the other day and Kobayak nailed it.

908
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: He's into element. The problem is Peyton Manning told me

909
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: this one time, and he's right. And listen, we got

910
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 1: he said, every interception has a story because the problem

911
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: is nobody wants to hear it, right, So Nathan Peterman

912
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: has got a ton of stories to tell with all

913
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: these picks. They all have a story. And as Jim

914
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: Kubiak said, listen, you got all these you know, balls

915
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: batted up into the air. You got him putting the

916
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: ball in the right location, the receiver's not coming down

917
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: with it and all that stuff, and nobody wants to

918
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: hear it. Bills fans don't want to hear it. They

919
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: just want to you know, they want to see the guy.

920
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: That's right. They want to see this guy kicked to

921
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: the curb and never heard from again. Right, Yeah, they

922
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: want in twenty years they go, where are they now?

923
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: That's the next time they want to hear from Nathan Peterman.

924
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: We'll see, yeah, I mean, it's and let's face it here.

925
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: At one point it was so bad that if it

926
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 1: weren't for the injury to Josh Allen and Derek Anderson

927
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: was in the fold at that point, Nathan Peterman might

928
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: have been really before after that, he might have already

929
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: been released if it weren't for the injuries. You know,

930
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: he's you know, he was the last guy standing that

931
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: was healthy. And if they wouldn't have had him, they

932
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: would have been starting a guy like Matt Barkley, another

933
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: one straight off the street. I mean, like with three days. Yep,

934
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: it would have been It would have been horrific. A

935
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: couple of phone calls here, Todd in Tonawanda. Go ahead, Tidd,

936
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: you're on the air, Hey Marins, thanks for taking the call.

937
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm Peterman. I've been saying this too since since the

938
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Speaker 1: first LA start. When you look at his play one

939
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: by one, all the interceptions exactly what you guys were

940
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: just talking about. Each one hands a story, you know,

941
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: and and not all of them are his fault. But

942
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: the problem is every time the gag was on the field,

943
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 1: the interceptions happened. And yeah, it's like if I leave

944
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: my house in my car and someone rear ends me

945
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: every time I turn it. Got to get your break

946
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: legs checks right, right, Todd, That's right though, But you

947
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: know what if I listen, if it's like that, It's

948
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: like the Peanuts cartoon. If pig pins in picture, there's

949
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 1: a cloud of dust. And if Peterman's on the field

950
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: for the Bills, there's gonna be interceptions. You know, it's

951
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: the same thing. And I you know, and who you listen,

952
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: that's something. It gets so bad that it doesn't matter

953
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: if it's not his fault or not. It's it's still

954
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: he's still the guy pulling the trigger. You can't get

955
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: away from it. I mean, that's the crazy part because

956
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: you can look at get a guy like Koubiak and

957
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: we just spoke to on the radio and he's and

958
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: he just said, you know, listen, here's what the guy did.

959
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: He put the ball in the right spot, He made

960
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: the right decision. He went down the line of what

961
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: he did right. He gave him a really a solid

962
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: grade for the for the game that he put together.

963
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: And this is a young, very young quarterback in Peterman too,

964
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: and so he's you know, he gave him the solid grade.

965
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: And you look back, he said he had three interceptions

966
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: plus and plus. You think about it, he made that

967
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: throw to chrome chroom coughs it up, and that goes

968
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: about it, and you don't you know, people are blaming

969
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: Peterman for that too, you know, I mean secretly you're thinking, wow,

970
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: he's that's not good. You know, God, what else you

971
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: got anything else? Yeah? And you know I'm not a

972
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: Peterman heater. You know, you hear the interviews. He sounds

973
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: like a great kid. I'm rooting for him personally, but

974
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: with all the national attention and as you know, you

975
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: see the snark at that time, and it almost feels

976
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 1: like the guy needs a week off and the Bills

977
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: the week off from being in the in the in

978
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: the target of the national Hell yeah, well they get

979
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: they get a week off after the Jet game this week.

980
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: So that you're right on time with that, Todd, thanks

981
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: to appreciate you know how good it would be to

982
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: get a win at the Jets and then get a

983
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: week off. You can all breathe a little deeper and

984
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: just say, okay, right to beat the Jets and then

985
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: get the week right. We need that one more call

986
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: before the top of the arm. We'll go to Adam

987
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: and north Tonawanda. Hello, Adam, you want to talk about

988
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: the which three Buffalo Bills on offense you would bring

989
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: back you would need to have back on the offense,

990
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: next year, right, yes, yes, thanks guys for having me

991
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: first time, long time. Thank sure, Adam. Looking into the

992
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: offensive end, I think I definitely agree with the Dion

993
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: Dawkin situation. You know, big line of scrimmage. Mcdermot's big

994
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage guy, as we hear every single week.

995
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: So I think we need to develop there. He's a

996
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: good start they Jones. I'm a little concerned on um.

997
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: I think he's a little soft. I don't think he's

998
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: ever gonna be a number one here in Buffalo. But

999
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: what I really want to get into is Charles Clay.

1000
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: Charles Clay comes over, has a good couple of years.

1001
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: Last year, pretty inconsistent, can dominate a game, and then

1002
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: he kind of goes away this year. I know he's

1003
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: battles some injury, which he has his whole career, but

1004
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:30,959
Speaker 1: you look at some of the good teams in the FFC,

1005
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the Patriots, Kron Kelsey, the tight end is

1006
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: so crucial. I'm not saying he's anywhere near that type

1007
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: of caliber, but I think they need to get the

1008
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: tight end. Charles Clay croom going a little more to help,

1009
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: you know, increase that passing game, open things up for

1010
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: Shady and move forward with this offense. Yeah, that's and

1011
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: that's those are those are good thoughts. I mean, Dawkins,

1012
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: Zay listen to say. Jones is a second round draft pick,

1013
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people are have high

1014
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: expectations for him. I think if you pick wide receiver

1015
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: number two, I don't know that you really think he's

1016
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: gonna be just to plug in and play number one receiver.

1017
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: Those guys like you know, like AJ Green and Julio Jones,

1018
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson in the past, guys like that around the

1019
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: league at Antonio Brown, those guys, and I can't I

1020
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: don't even I could even tell you where those guys

1021
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: were drafted, except I know they were very high draft picks.

1022
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: So I don't know that they really thought Zay Jones

1023
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: was going to be a true number one receiver. But

1024
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: because faced Sammy Watkins was on the squad when when

1025
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: they drafted him. So I think Zay is. I think

1026
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: he's projected. He's a number his second round draft pick,

1027
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,959
Speaker 1: and he's probably projected as as a number two wide

1028
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: receiver in the NFL or a possession guy, slot guy.

1029
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: Whatever he can do, whatever role he evolves into but yeah,

1030
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,479
Speaker 1: you're right, he has taken to me a step forward

1031
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: this year. He's got a long way to go, but

1032
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: I think if you're looking for anything positive out of

1033
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: the wide receiver corps this year, that's got to be

1034
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: maybe the only thing. Thanks you your car. We're gonna

1035
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: take a break. We've got Peter King from NBC Sports

1036
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: and Pro Football Talk coming up in the next hour

1037
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: with the show. Come on back for that. Steve Tasker

1038
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: and I here until three One Bills Live from One

1039
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: Bills Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio, Hills Radio

1040
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: Network Sports at the update from One Bill's Drive. Big

1041
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: game planned day for the Bills. Coaching set players off

1042
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: one more game before the bye week. They've got a

1043
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: trip to the New Jersey Meadowlands this Sunday played the Jets.

1044
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: Thills was seven games left the season, five of them

1045
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,439
Speaker 1: against AFC East Division rivals. Another week with the question

1046
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: mark at quarterback for the Bills, so Derek Anderson remains

1047
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: in concussion protocol, Josh Allen throwing a little bit on

1048
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: the side, Nathan Peterman still available. Head coach Sean McDermott

1049
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: does not allowed having the Alans available for the Jets game.

1050
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: He hasn't played since October fourteenth, when he injured his

1051
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: elbow in Houston. If he can't play, it could be

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Speaker 1: Derek Anderson if he's cleared from concussion protocol. McDermot says

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Speaker 1: if Alan cannot play and Anderson, ca and Anderson was

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00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: started quarterback, and if neither Alan Anderson could go to

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Speaker 1: be Nathan Peterman, stay tuned. Those haven other injury issues

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Speaker 1: as well. Running Back Chris Ivory has a shoulder spring

1057
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: day to day, tight end Charles Clay came up with

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00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: a hamstring injury. Defensive end Trent Murphy still has a

1059
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: neat problem there both week to week. The Bills trying

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00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 1: to get better at wide receiver, claimed Off Waivers wide

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00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: out yesterday, wide receiver and return specialists Isaia McKenzie, former

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Speaker 1: fifth round pick of the Denver Broncos on the Broncos

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00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: practice squad of this past September, called up to their

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00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: active roster a couple of weeks ago, released by the

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00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: club last Friday to make room the Bill's released wide

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00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: receiver Cam Phillips. Levy on Vell has not had contact

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Speaker 1: with the Pittsburgh Steelers this week and barring an unforeseen

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00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: development in the next few days. He is not expected

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00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: to report to the team in time for Thursday night's

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00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: game against the Panthers, increasing the possibility that Bill will

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00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: not play at all this season, and after another underwhelming loss.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys owner Jerry Jonestil reporters he does not anticipate making

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Speaker 1: any in season coaching changes. College football Today tonight UB Stadium,

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Speaker 1: the UB Bulls eight and one versus Kent State. The

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00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: Bulls eight and one for the first time since nineteen

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Speaker 1: fifty nine. Winnever Kent State would be Buffalo's ninth win

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Speaker 1: of the season. They're most in the FBS ERA since

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine. Seventh thirty Ube Stadium, UB and Kent State.

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Speaker 1: There's basketball at four o'clock this afternoon at UB the

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Speaker 1: Bulls against Saint Francis as the UB Bulls open their season.

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Speaker 1: Savers practicing today home on Thursday night or away on

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00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,959
Speaker 1: Thursday night at Montreal against the Canadians. That's the update

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00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: from one Bill's Drive. John Murphy, Steve Tasker in our

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00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 1: one Buffalo Studio. Happy to have you with us here today.

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Speaker 1: It is our number two. Peter King from Pro Football

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00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: Talk at NBC Sports coming up in a minute or two,

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00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: we'll talk to him about a variety of topics. Yes,

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00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: I just got something on my We handed a note.

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00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: I've been handed this thing here and we just we're

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00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: going off. And I about the receivers on the Bills,

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00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: And I said, you know, Antonio Brown, not Antonio Brown.

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00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: I said, Antonio Brown was a guy who's a number

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00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: one receiver. Now he was actually a sixth round draft pick,

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00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: which is a surprise. And I I'm all about guys overachieving. Now,

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00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: we brought up Zay Jones as a second round draft pick.

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00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: I don't think he was picked with the idea that

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Speaker 1: he was going to turn into a number one. Neither

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00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: was Antonio Brown. I'm all about guys who can overachieve.

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00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: There's far too few of them in the league. But

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown is definitely one of them. If you're a

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00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 1: kind of stood next to him, he does not look

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Speaker 1: like a number one receiver. He's like, maybe he's taller

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00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: than me, he may be a hair faster than me,

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00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: just barely. No, but he's a number He's a guy

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00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: who came into the league with lower expectations, who emerged

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00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: as a number one guy, who's who's an all time,

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00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: great guy who's a he's a superstar in the league.

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00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: A guy like Zay Jones wouldn't have to overachieve to

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00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: be a kind of guy like that. His Zay Jones ability. Now,

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00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: he was fast, but his receiving skills and stuff needed

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00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: to be polished. So it was another point about you know,

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Speaker 1: having a number one. The Bills don't have a number

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00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: one Zay Jones. Don't know if he'll ever get to

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00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: be one. Don't know if that was the expectations. Actually

1115
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: when they drafted him, I think he was the best

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00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: wide receiver they had available at the time, and he

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00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: was at a spot where they wanted to grab. They

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00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: thought he was a great pick at the time and

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Speaker 1: they took him. So but thanks for tweeting in and

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Speaker 1: reminded me that Antonio Brown and I mentioned him in

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00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: those number one guys who were drafted as such. He

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00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,959
Speaker 1: was a sixth round guy. So I love guys who overachieve. Sure,

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Speaker 1: that's those are the best stories by We got a

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00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: couple of tweets from people responding to our Jim Kubiak

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Speaker 1: interview on both sides of the issue. Ever, tweets in

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Speaker 1: hey one of Bill Drive, why the pathological need to

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00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: prop Peterman up. We were demanded yesterday today, it's pathological.

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00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: Some of the picks were not his faulture, but he

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00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: hasn't looked apart when guys have been open. Nick Mullins,

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00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: for example, is admittedly this week's flavor and will slide back,

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00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: but showed more than Peterman ever has. I agree. I

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00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: agree Mullins has showed a lot more than Nathan Peterman has.

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00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: We're not trying to prop him up. We put on

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00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: Jimmy Kubiak because he had a different, different take well

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00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: on Peterman. The thing is, I'm not because of the

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00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: bad stuff that has happened to Peterman. It's hard to say,

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00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: you know what the guy's gonna You know, he's gonna

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00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: knock it out of the park. You know he's misunders

1139
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: he's not he's not missunder stood. Here's no what he is.

1140
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's not as bad as people say

1141
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: the guy and Kubiak said it too. If he's gonna

1142
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: be in the league, I mean, Nathan Peterman is going

1143
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: to be in the league, and a lot of people

1144
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: think he shouldn't even have ever put on a helmet

1145
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,479
Speaker 1: when he was eight years old, and I'm not willing

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00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: to forget that, forget all the stuff he did at

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00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: pitt and at Tennessee. He you know, the guy should

1148
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: just give up football. I'm not ready to go there.

1149
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: Tweet from you should vote Trent Edwards was a better quarterback,

1150
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 1: but you'd rather bend over backwards to try to impress

1151
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: me about Peterman, not to impress anybody. We're talking. He

1152
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: goes out to say I'm done with him. Any More

1153
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: games with him as Bill Starter are games I'm not watching. Sorry,

1154
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: there's only so much of that crap I can take

1155
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: as a fan of this team. Hashtag go Bills, Go Bills.

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00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: Go through all that, and then hashtag go Bills. That's great.

1157
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: I love it, man, I do love that I did.

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00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 1: And one more end this. I don't want to dwell

1159
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: on this all day again. Peterman is who he is.

1160
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 1: We're talking about it, okay, But one more tweet. This

1161
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: is from Kevin great interview talking about the Jim Kouobiack interview.

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00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: Great interview from a very smart guy. Nicely here from

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00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: a rational person as opposed to some of those in

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00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: the national media who beat up on Peterman to get

1165
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: viewers and clicks. I agree with that. I think some

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00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: of the reaction to Peterman is just like a knee jerk, like, oh,

1167
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: here's somebody can pick on. Boom click click click click.

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00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's kind of ridiculous, right. He hasn't

1169
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: been good. He throws to many interceptions. There's a reason

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Speaker 1: why he started last Sunday. He was like the last

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00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: man standing while he started last Sunday, and maybe the

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00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: case again this week this Sunday. Yeah, if he starts it. Listen,

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00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: if Peterman starts, it is because somebody's hurt. That's the

1174
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: bottom line. Because Josh Allen's hurt it in this case,

1175
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: now we're finding out that even if Derek Anderson's hurt, Peterman. Yeah,

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00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: if either one of those guys has hurt, or if

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Speaker 1: they're both hurt, that is the only way that Peterman starts.

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00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: And so I think that's kind of the way the

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00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 1: Bills fans want it and see it. And I agree

1180
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: with that. Derek Anderson is a guy who has more

1181
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: experience and he seems to be more calm in the pocket. Now,

1182
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: he didn't have much better effort or much better results

1183
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: in the Indianapolis game, and indeed he got hurt, but

1184
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: no question. It was you know, Peterman is a guy

1185
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: that's not going to get on the field unless you know,

1186
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 1: two guys get injured. Our Twitter question today, not counting

1187
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, give us three players on offense that the

1188
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: Bills can build around next year. We think, I think

1189
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: it's kind of tough to find three even three. But

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Speaker 1: let's hear from you eight three five fifty toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty, or

1192
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: you can do it on Twitter at one Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to a time in West Seneca. Hello, Tom, welcome,

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00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: Go ahead, you're on the air. Yeah, okay, Yeah, Tom's

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00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: on the other line. How do we get in on

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00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 1: the time? We're on a party line? Tom, are you there? Yes?

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00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: Sam here, John Steve, thanks for having me. I appreciate her.

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00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: I don't I usually don't like to play the blame game,

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Speaker 1: but you know I'm gonna blame the offensive line. We've

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00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 1: got a running back like h McCoy in the backfield

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00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: and they can't get him a hurry yard. If they,

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00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: if they are running game would get going. It would

1203
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: take pressure off of who whoever our quarterback is, Peterman

1204
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: or whomever. But they're not getting one or the other going.

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00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: So I'm blaming the offensive line. Uh. Peterman, he's uh,

1206
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: he plays with tenacity. The guy clearly has confidence in himself.

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00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: But you know there's always that you heard about it before,

1208
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: the hit factor. He does not have that hit factor.

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00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: And uh, I can't wait for Josh Allen to come back. Also,

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00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, I think is a great coach. He can't

1211
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: play the game for these guys and John no pun intended,

1212
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: But I do would believe in Murphy's law, and uh,

1213
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: anything could happen. It's possible we could still make the playoffs.

1214
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: I think I'm crazy already, but I do think you're

1215
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: crazy about that yet. Murphy's law isn't you were doing

1216
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: so well time before you turned the corner. I appreciate you. No,

1217
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: that was and I agree with him a lot of

1218
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: what he said. The offensive line's got to really play better,

1219
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: and that, let's face, he got eleven guys out there.

1220
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Speaker 1: Five of them aren't playing well. You're not going to

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00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: be successful, particularly if it's all you know they kind

1222
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: of you kind of consider them one group, but it's

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00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: five guys. Are the six that are on offense and

1224
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: if they're not playing well, nothing's gonna go well for

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00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: the rest of them. And I agree, and I with

1226
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: a lot of callers, I do think Lashawn McCoy's got

1227
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: something to give to an NFL team, and I think

1228
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: the Bills are not going to let him get out

1229
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: of the building. I think he's gonna end his career

1230
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: as a Buffalo Bill. I'm happy to say that. I

1231
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: think he's played extremely well for this franchise in the

1232
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: time that he's been here, and I would like to

1233
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: see him give him some help as quickly as possible,

1234
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: And I agree. I think that help would start with

1235
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: offensive line. Which three offensive players other than Josh Allen

1236
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: can the Bills build around next year? What do you think?

1237
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: Give us a caller, we'll read your tweet from Kelly Tough.

1238
00:58:55,360 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: Interesting tweet. He lists Allen, Josh Allen, Zay Jones, the Darks,

1239
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: whyatt teller Jason Krum. Those are literally the only offensive

1240
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: players I want left on this roster going into next

1241
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: year as it stands right now. Possibly Butcker, Searles and

1242
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: Prior if they can chose something positive the rest of

1243
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: the way here, Okay, I mean I don't know what

1244
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: to make of uh Ike Bucker and Jeremiah Searles just

1245
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: having Yeah, we haven't seen him play Wyatt Tellers the

1246
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: same Searles. You might see more Bucker in these final

1247
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: seven games. If if they continue what they did started

1248
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: last Sunday and working in the offensive lineman the young

1249
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: guys through there, maybe we do see Ike Bucker. Maybe

1250
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: we do see us more of Searles. We saw him

1251
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: a little bit, a couple of serious I'll tell you

1252
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: at the end of this season, there's gonna be some

1253
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: guys that are looking around thinking I better have a

1254
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: pretty good offseason or I'm gonna be looking for a job.

1255
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they have not played well enough. They brought

1256
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: in a ton of offensive linemen in the preseason. I

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Speaker 1: think back, I think it was like thirteen guys they had.

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00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: They had a ton of offensive lineman and they they scoured,

1259
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: they scoured everywhere they could find its and get some guys.

1260
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: And they could not find um guys that get the

1261
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: guys they already had as a lament on the roster. Now.

1262
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: So it's a it's an ongoing problem and they're they're

1263
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: continuing to work hard on it, and we'll see if

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01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: they can get it together. Tweaked from Mike Doughty. We

1265
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: asked a question which offensive players other than Josh Allen

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01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: can the Bills build around next year, and Mike Dody

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01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: says pretty simple, Zay Jones, Dion Dawkins, Marcus Murphy. I

1268
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: could see someone say Whyatt Teller, but he doesn't have

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01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: the playing time to warrant a top three selection. I'm

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01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: glad to agree with that. I think this is a

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01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: question we should revisit when the offseason gets here, because,

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Speaker 1: as I said, after seven more games, Wyatt Teller might

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01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: have that kind of playing time. Um. I find Marcus

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01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: Murphy interesting, Steve, I love the guy, A great guy,

1275
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: love having him on the show. Yeah. Have we've seen

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01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: enough of him either in return work or is a

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01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: running back to make you think that you got to

1278
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: build around him, keep him around next year. I don't know,

1279
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: build around him, maybe not, but certainly make a spot

1280
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: for him, give him every opportunity to make Yeah, maybe

1281
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: give him a chance. You're not gonna cut him until,

1282
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: you know, until he got somebody better better, you know

1283
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: what I mean? And I so I think it's and

1284
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: I think that's hard. You're hard pressed to say, hey,

1285
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of guys like him out there. I mean,

1286
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: I like what he's given to the team. The versatility

1287
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: is the thing you need from the third running back.

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01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he's behind Lashawn McCoy, he's behind Chris Ivory.

1289
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: So he's got to be able to return kicks. He's

1290
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: got to be able to be a third hang on

1291
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: to kick. He's got to be able to be a

1292
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: third down back. He's got to be able to pick

1293
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: up Blizz. He's got to do everything because if he

1294
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: does get in the games because somebody is down, you're

1295
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna have to carry the lion's share of

1296
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: the load. He's got to do everything. He's got to

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01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: make himself valuable. And Murphy has done that and we

1298
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: saw it in the preseason and we've seen it in

1299
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: flashes here in the regular season. So I agree. I agree.

1300
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: I'd like to see more, especially in the return game.

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01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: You know they had eight kickoffs the Brown The Bears

1302
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: kicked it off eight times Sunday, not one return. Yeah,

1303
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: well that's yeah. I know they're putting them deep, but

1304
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: some of those you can try, right, I don't know,

1305
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: Charlie and Lockboord they got no help from a field

1306
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: position on Sunday against the bid. They didn't and Charlie

1307
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: and Lockboord go ahead. I'm say not in Ghentleman are okay? Okay?

1308
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm really concerned with the way that

1309
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: the fans are reacting. At the end of the day,

1310
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: this is a rebuilding process. I think that it's going

1311
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: to take a while we get there. I think Doug

1312
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: Whaley left us bank left. I think it's going to

1313
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: take a minute to get there. Are we going to

1314
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 1: be happy every Sunday? You know? Uh? To be perfectly

1315
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: honest with you, I wouldn't mind if we lost every

1316
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: game this season just to give us a little more

1317
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: of of a bargaining leverage, which we had to obtaining

1318
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: new players. So my biggest concern at this point is

1319
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: are we going to make it difficult for who I

1320
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: think is a good coach, Sean mcdemon. Are we going

1321
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: to be making it difficult psychologically difficult on him before

1322
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: this season is over. I'm just saying, this is the

1323
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: hand we've been dealt and we have to play it,

1324
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: and that's that's all there is to say. Yeah, certainly,

1325
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: but you'd also like to see some of the things

1326
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: that they've tried. You'd I can see something begin to

1327
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: be more successful on the offensive side. I mean, obviously

1328
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: they have been successful on the defensive side of the ball,

1329
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, you find yourself in an

1330
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,959
Speaker 1: NFL where it's a throwing league and everybody's scoring thirty

1331
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: five points a game, and even though you're keeping teams

1332
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,919
Speaker 1: below that, well below that, in some cases, defensively it's

1333
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: not enough because your offense can't get into the end zone.

1334
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I mean I get it too, And

1335
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: you're righting the fans. It's no fun for the fans.

1336
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: For them, a year like this would be a wasted year.

1337
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, you look at the long term.

1338
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: And I heard somebody also say this on another radio

1339
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: program yesterday, this is listen. They've never done this, They've

1340
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: never bitten the bullet, taken an enormous step back on

1341
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: either side of the football, and then rebuilt it the

1342
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: right way. Well, you'd be hard pressed to say they're

1343
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: not biting the bullet this year. On offense. I mean,

1344
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: this is I mean, this is a you know, yeah,

1345
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: this is a this is a complete teardown. Yeah, I mean,

1346
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't see it coming. I gotta be

1347
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: honest with you. I thought, well, okay, we got the

1348
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 1: five offensive lineman they've got in there have all had

1349
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: significant snaps in the NFL and played well. There's no

1350
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: reason to think that when they got in there they

1351
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: were gonna be this bad. The receivers, Kelvin, Benjamin in particular,

1352
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: Charles Clay, LaShaun McCoy, all these guys, you think, okay,

1353
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to to, you know, kind of

1354
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 1: carry the load a little bit behind that offensive line. Well,

1355
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: none of it has happened. None of it has happened,

1356
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm a little surprised by it. Yeah, it's tough,

1357
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 1: I would Charlie and Lockboard questioned whether Sean McDermot will

1358
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: be able to withstand the critique psychologically. I wouldn't worry

1359
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: about that. He's pretty tough. He's pretty tough minded, he's

1360
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: pretty stubborn as a matter of fact, in a good way.

1361
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: I think, you know, we've seen it with some of

1362
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: the decisions they've made, and when he's been wrong in

1363
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 1: the past, he has owned up to it and moved on.

1364
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't worry about the coach kind of faltering

1365
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: with uh, you know, kind of unrelenting criticism that he

1366
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: sometimes I agree when listen, they make the decisions with players,

1367
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: with coaching staffs, with schemes that they run with play calls, schedules,

1368
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: training schedules, meeting schedules. They've got all this stuff going

1369
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 1: and sometimes it works out really well and sometimes it doesn't.

1370
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: And this crew handles every situation really well. And nobody

1371
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: gets everything right in any team, but they do have

1372
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: a specific plan for everything that they need to fix,

1373
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: and they get after it really quickly. And that's one

1374
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: thing I've been impressed with. All Right, when we come back,

1375
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: Peter King from NBC Sports Pro Football Talk will join us.

1376
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 1: We'll recap the week in the NFL and some of

1377
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 1: the stuff going on on and off the field with

1378
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: Peter King. When we return, John Murphy, Steve Tasker powering

1379
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 1: through our show with the determination we're gonna make it

1380
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: today one goes live. From what I know, you had

1381
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: some doubts about that, but we're gonna make it. Steve,

1382
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: We'll be all right. Got to be better than all right.

1383
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 1: Welcome back to this show. Is one goes live. We

1384
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 1: come from one Bill's drive, John Murphy, Steve Tasher, one

1385
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: of the all time great Buffalo Bills. He's on the

1386
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 1: Wall of Fame case, you know, just trying to establish

1387
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: your botifigs everybody. Yeah, yeah, you have people don't know

1388
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: who you are wanting, you know, people calling you demanded

1389
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 1: and pathological. I want them to know we couldn't. You

1390
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: got that way, We couldn't. Yeah, right, we could remember

1391
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: the exact word pathological. I thought it was what was it?

1392
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: There was psychotics. But you're right about both of those.

1393
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: Crack staff in the back said no, they called your pathological. Yeah,

1394
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 1: you're right about both of those diagnoses for me at least,

1395
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 1: but not for the Nathan Peter in reason. Hey man,

1396
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 1: I would admit to being demanded in a bit. Pathological

1397
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: bills are two and seven. Everybody's pathologically these days eight

1398
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 1: h three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight

1399
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. We want to get your

1400
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: thoughts on which three and I had a hard I'm

1401
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: coming up with three Buffalo bills other than Josh Allen.

1402
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: The Bills need to build around their offense next year.

1403
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 1: Give us a call on that. Eight h three five

1404
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: fifty twel three one eight eight eight five fifty two

1405
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: five fifty Jose and Buffalo has a thought on that, Jose,

1406
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 1: Go ahead, what's going on? Guys? Hi? Hey man, I

1407
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 1: don't know this offense is. I don't know about this

1408
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: offense sometimes, but you don't know, how about every time?

1409
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Sometimes? Sometimes I don't know this is.

1410
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say, but listen. The only

1411
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 1: ones really I don't want to even want to say

1412
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 1: build around, but the only ones I would keep for

1413
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 1: next year, for you know, when we got these, I've

1414
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: seen amount of I've seen amount of his draft cab capital,

1415
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 1: and I've seen the amount of cap space. Only ones

1416
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 1: I would really keep would be Josh Allen, Ci Shady,

1417
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: Chris I I mean Chris Ivory, Shady Um, Derek Anderson,

1418
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins, and Zajon the Alice can go as far

1419
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, and all the starters on the offensive line,

1420
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: give them a chance to fight it out to be

1421
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: backups for next year. I don't you know, It's just

1422
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say with this this offense.

1423
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 1: Like I'm with Steve, like I'm surprised. I actually thought

1424
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: this offense was going to be okay, you know, coming

1425
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 1: out this year, and it's just they completely fopped. And

1426
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 1: it's not Dabel's fault. I mean, everybody can blame Dabel,

1427
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 1: blame CALLI, blame everybody else. No, well, here's the thing,

1428
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: and here's why they do that, Jose, and I don't

1429
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 1: want to cut you off, but the reason people do

1430
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 1: that because it's a it's an abject failure right now.

1431
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: They can't damn scored. They scored one touchdown in three games.

1432
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: And that's why it seems to be like a systemic failure.

1433
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 1: But it's not. I mean, I think you don't got

1434
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 1: the personnel that right. You can't even throw a screen

1435
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,640
Speaker 1: pass because we don't have athletic enough of lineman to

1436
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 1: throw a screen pass. I mean, come on, yeah, ridiculous.

1437
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. And I and that's just and I'm

1438
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 1: like you, I don't everybody. I was. I'm really surprised

1439
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 1: by that because this is an offensive line with four

1440
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: of these guys played last year for this team and

1441
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: it was a playoff team. I'm with you, Steve, I

1442
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 1: don't want you. I'm thumbfounded. I don't know and if

1443
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 1: I love you guys. You guys are the best. And

1444
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you a little story real quick

1445
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 1: before I hang up. The other day, when a couple

1446
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, when my wife was when I guess

1447
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 1: Murph had taken off. My wife had came in and

1448
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: it was just Steve. It was just Steve there. She

1449
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: looks at the TV. She goes, oh my god, Murph

1450
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: got younger. Oh wow, that's not a compliment for you, Steve,

1451
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: but a boom, who are you with. I don't know.

1452
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: It might have been when Brownie was here. I think

1453
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 1: you were. I don't know. A couple of weeks ago

1454
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 1: it was. It was actually Steve was by himself. It

1455
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 1: was it was hilarious. She just she comes in and

1456
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 1: she looks. She was like, oh my god, Murph guy young,

1457
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: I said. I was like, I looked at I said, hey,

1458
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 1: that's not uh, that's not Murph, that's Steve. That's Murph's

1459
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,560
Speaker 1: evil twin. Yeah. Listen, yeah, Jose, you bring up and

1460
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 1: thanks for calling you. We asked for three names, and

1461
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 1: Jose kind of went down the w yeah, came up

1462
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Speaker 1: with six names of guys he actually will would bring

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01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 1: back maybe I'd build the offense around. He thinks Derek

1464
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 1: Anderson the interesting that's an interesting name, and I to

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01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: bring back Derek Anderson. I don't think you're gonna be

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01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 1: able to get Derek Anderson to stay. They had to

1467
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 1: him seriously, now he had. We spoke to him off

1468
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 1: on the show and off the show. We didn't get

1469
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 1: too much into it on the show, but he said, yeah,

1470
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: he had a handful of teams trying to get him

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01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 1: to come in and do exactly what the Bills are

1472
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: getting him to do, and that's be a mentor for

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01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: a young quarterback. A guy, because this is Derek Anderson's

1474
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 1: the guy that stood behind Cam Newton in Caroline and

1475
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 1: watched him develop and helped him get get through all

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01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 1: the young growing pains of a young quarterback. So I'm

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01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 1: interested that he would try to keep him around. That's

1478
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 1: something I didn't think about. You don't really build around him,

1479
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 1: but he's part of what you need to build. A

1480
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: guy who's a voice as a player for a young

1481
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: quarterback like Josh Allen to clean onto. I get that,

1482
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 1: and he also, of course Josh. Both running backs Shady

1483
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: and Chris Ivory, Dion Dawkins and Zay Jones. Those are

1484
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 1: the usual suspects thus far. In the in the twitter

1485
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 1: question today about which three offensive players would you build

1486
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,839
Speaker 1: around for next year? That's all six of the choices

1487
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 1: that we've heard a lot of tough question whyat Heller

1488
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 1: was in there as too, but we haven't seen him

1489
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: play and a lot of people are going to listen

1490
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 1: if the offensive line is so bad, why can't Wyatt

1491
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 1: tell her get on the field? And it's legitimate questions though, yeah,

1492
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 1: he was on the field last Sunday. A couple of

1493
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: series for a series, maybe more to come. Here is

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01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 1: a Joe in Tonawanda. Good afternoon, Joe, Welcome to the show.

1495
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: Hi guys, Hi, Well, my wife Cindy would like to

1496
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 1: get her Hall of Fame vote in. Oh look at

1497
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 1: that there it is set. We're up to seventy. You're

1498
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 1: Steve Taskers, the best Special Teams player of all time

1499
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: and I vote for him. Thank you, Cindy. Sindey needs

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01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 1: a vote, Steve. Talk to some people down in canon.

1501
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:42,640
Speaker 1: Another David Baker last weekend. Here you know, the Hall

1502
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,560
Speaker 1: of Fame President. Great guy. I love that guy. That

1503
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 1: guy around a lot. He loves Buffalo. He was telling

1504
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 1: me how much he loves coming here. I'll bring it up.

1505
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: I'll tell him we have a little balloting going here

1506
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: for a Hall of Fame prone to do it. Go ahead.

1507
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Joe, we're interrupting you, all right. Uh my

1508
01:11:56,360 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 1: three guys would be uh, two Megatrons and West Welker

1509
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,639
Speaker 1: getting them with our draft pick this year. I mean,

1510
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know by now who was

1511
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 1: available in the college raft this year. Joe, I'm pretty

1512
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 1: sure there are no There are not two Megatrons and

1513
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 1: a Wes Welker in this draft. And if they are,

1514
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: they're not going to be there when the Bills pick.

1515
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 1: So likely, but I get the sentiment. Thank you, Joe,

1516
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 1: Thanks for your call. We're going to turn our attention

1517
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: now to our buddy. Peter King from NBC Sports Pro

1518
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 1: Football Talk writes Football Morning in America every Monday, and

1519
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 1: he joins us right now on the subway Fresh take highline.

1520
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 1: Get afternoon, Peter, John Murphy and Steve stask Rapp here

1521
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. How are you, hey, guys, Sorry for the delay,

1522
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 1: How are you? No problement? And let me I'm diving

1523
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 1: right in here. I got a question for you because

1524
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 1: it kind of came up a little bit earlier on

1525
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: our show here today. You know the quarterback story up

1526
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo and how difficult to spend for them

1527
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 1: to find a viable quarterback, especially now with Josh Ellen

1528
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 1: out for a while. And you you named Nick Mullins,

1529
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,839
Speaker 1: who jumped into the starting line up at San Francisco

1530
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 1: last week as one of your offensive performers of the week.

1531
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 1: Why is it so tough for the Buffalo Bills to

1532
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 1: find a guy like Nick Mullins when the Nighter can

1533
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 1: just go out and throw somebody in there and he succeeds.

1534
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean, what what are we missing here? What do

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01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:12,600
Speaker 1: you think? Um? Well, I mean Nick Mullins is just

1536
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 1: a you know, everybody else missed him too. Yeah, So

1537
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:21,600
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't I wouldn't necessarily say what's wrong with

1538
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 1: the Bills. I would say that Nick Mullins is an

1539
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 1: absolutely Um I think I think there are several players

1540
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 1: you can look at in in almost any year and

1541
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 1: you can say, well that guy, uh, that guy isn't

1542
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,799
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like a prospect to me, and somebody

1543
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 1: else can say I want to take a chance, I

1544
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 1: want to work with this guy, Nick Mullins is one

1545
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 1: of those guys. So I I don't think if you

1546
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 1: just consider him on his face, oh jeez, why can't

1547
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 1: we get guys like that? That's the I mean, why

1548
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,600
Speaker 1: why was Tom Brady passed on for one hundred and

1549
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: ninety eight picks? I mean, it's just scouting is just

1550
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,719
Speaker 1: an absolutely beauty in the eye of the beholder business.

1551
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 1: And I think right now when I look at the game,

1552
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,759
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons why a guy like Brandon Bean.

1553
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 1: You know, I have been hard on him for you know,

1554
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 1: how they handled their quarterback situation this offseason, particularly with

1555
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 1: AJ McCarron. But the fact is, overall, Brandon Bean has

1556
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 1: done a good job with his personnel decisions with this franchise.

1557
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 1: You talk so yeah, and I was, I was just

1558
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 1: gonna say so, So I don't necessarily say, hey, how'd

1559
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 1: just screw up Nick Mullins. I would say thirty other

1560
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: teams did too. How much about Nick Mullins's success had

1561
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 1: to do with the fact that they're playing in the

1562
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders defense. I mean, some Steve, but I will

1563
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: tell you this, Nick Mullins played with the confidence he

1564
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 1: was irrationally confident that night, and I don't I don't care.

1565
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're playing the you know, I

1566
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 1: don't care if you're playing a minor league team, which

1567
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 1: is basically what Oakland is now. I mean, you have

1568
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: to still go out and make plays. And hey, I

1569
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:32,600
Speaker 1: mean he threw the ball with conviction, with certainty, with confidence,

1570
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 1: and I just sometimes you just shake your head at

1571
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 1: that and just say, Wow, give that guy a lot

1572
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 1: of credit that that really surprised me, because it's just

1573
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 1: his play really did surprise me. And Peter, I guess

1574
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking back at my original question. I'm not thinking

1575
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: how do they miss? But I'm wondering if we miss

1576
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,839
Speaker 1: something here in Buffalo in terms of an offensive approach

1577
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:56,759
Speaker 1: or an offensive system that allows guys, you know, passable

1578
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: guys like Mullins and maybe Peterman some of the others

1579
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: who bounce around the fringes of league rosters. Are we

1580
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: missing something here that would allow guys like to to

1581
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 1: thrive succeed. I don't think so. I mean, every offense

1582
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:12,640
Speaker 1: is going to be looking for a different not not

1583
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 1: everyone is going to be looking for a different quarterback,

1584
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 1: but different offenses and different people and the people who

1585
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 1: run different offenses are going to look for a different

1586
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 1: kind of quarterback. Maybe not everybody wants a Deshaun Watson,

1587
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: a guy who might make some of his yardage running.

1588
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 1: Maybe not everybody's going to look at Saya Russell Wilson

1589
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 1: the same way. You know. So, And it's clear, you know,

1590
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 1: with all the the pilab out there after Hugh Jackson

1591
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: got fired and him saying, man, I wish we took

1592
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, but we weren't taking a quarterback then. I mean,

1593
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 1: if that was indeed the thought of the organization, I

1594
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 1: think my point would be, if you have a chance

1595
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 1: to take Carson Wentz, which they truly did, and trade

1596
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 1: it out of it to try to accumulate more picks.

1597
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 1: There are some teams out there who feel like, when

1598
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 1: I watch them, I say they're in the pick accumulation

1599
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: business more than they are the team building business, because

1600
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 1: they just feel like, if we get a Jillian picks,

1601
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 1: our team is going to be really good. No, if

1602
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 1: you have a chance to get a quarterback and you

1603
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,600
Speaker 1: want them, you got to take them. So maybe you

1604
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: put them in dry ice for a while while you

1605
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 1: build the rest of your team or whatever. But I

1606
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 1: think approaches like that are are not smart. Peter and

1607
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: Steve has I just want to say, you just sent

1608
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 1: me to the dictionary to look up a lava right

1609
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,640
Speaker 1: to talk unproductively and at length. Is that what that

1610
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 1: word is? That is exactly what it is. I'm glad

1611
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 1: you sent me. I like making you smarter, John to go.

1612
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 1: Good luck with that. Your article, your article this week

1613
01:17:54,920 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 1: the Football Morning in America. You spoke tell me about

1614
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 1: the just and I was going to ask you about

1615
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 1: maybe one of the surprising you know things about the

1616
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 1: NFL this year. I mean, they're on this record pace

1617
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 1: for you know, those points, and the thing about it

1618
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,799
Speaker 1: is and we've seen kind of some of this before

1619
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 1: at different times in different stretches, but we haven't seen

1620
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 1: games so many games that are scoring a lot of

1621
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 1: points and being so close at the end. I mean,

1622
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 1: you look at the La Rams and the Saints last week.

1623
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 1: I mean, is that to me? That was a lot

1624
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 1: of fun? And I think the league, yeah, and it's

1625
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 1: hard to make it happen. But I mean, I think

1626
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: you're still asking for some quarterbacks. You're gonna have a

1627
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 1: I mean, some teams are gonna have a quarterbacks that

1628
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 1: you can do that with an offensive you can do

1629
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 1: that with and there are other gonna be others who

1630
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 1: can't get there. Yeah, I think, Steve, I think what's

1631
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 1: happening in football right now? And this look every every

1632
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 1: era in football eventually has changed. You know, I still

1633
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 1: watch the game last night and I say to myself,

1634
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys are crazy in the second half of that

1635
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 1: game for giving Ezekiel Elliots six touches in thirty minutes.

1636
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a way to prove to people that

1637
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 1: you don't know what you're doing. And and and to me,

1638
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 1: I think eventually, I don't know when it's going to be,

1639
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:23,759
Speaker 1: eight years, eighteen years, whatever, I think the game people

1640
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: will win playing the way that let's say Mike Vrabel

1641
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 1: wants to play, which is really you know, he grew

1642
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 1: up in Ohio, his dad was a high school coach,

1643
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,799
Speaker 1: he played at Ohio State. You know, he's a smash

1644
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 1: mouse guy, and he wants he wants a really really

1645
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:47,759
Speaker 1: strong running game. He wants big, physical receivers, he wants

1646
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 1: his quarterback to be able to run. And so, you know,

1647
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 1: to me, nothing is permanent in football. And you know,

1648
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 1: so I think right now, the way that's most fun.

1649
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:03,839
Speaker 1: The way that's most exciting is kind of the Rams

1650
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 1: slash Saints way to play Chiefs all that stuff. But

1651
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:13,600
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean it's forever, because Steve I maintain that

1652
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:20,719
Speaker 1: that if you play, especially if you play the RPO

1653
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:24,560
Speaker 1: style where your quarterback is judging whether to hand the

1654
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 1: ball off or whether to hang on to it, eventually

1655
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 1: a couple of those guys are going to get hurt

1656
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 1: playing that way. And when they get hurt, all of

1657
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 1: a sudden, the dinosaurs are going to come back, and

1658
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,600
Speaker 1: everybody's going to say, I want a pocket passer. Like

1659
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 1: John Gruden, he does not want Derek Carr to play

1660
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 1: rpo football. And so I think I think you have

1661
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 1: to look at every situation and you have to say

1662
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: nothing is forever with football. We're with Peter King. He

1663
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 1: writes for NBC Sports, Pro Football Today, Pro Football Talk Rather,

1664
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,560
Speaker 1: and Football Morning in America, his regular Monday column that

1665
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 1: comes out online. You wrote about the Sunday Night game,

1666
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: which was a pretty fun game to watch, the Patriots

1667
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 1: and the Packers, and you said some of the players

1668
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:09,759
Speaker 1: talk about it like it was Mick Jagger and the Stones,

1669
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 1: and uh, John Lennon and the Beatles. Right, So one

1670
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 1: veteran player you said to described it zech going into

1671
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, And I think I think you know

1672
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 1: Belichick the way the way he approaches football games is

1673
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 1: don't caught up, don't get caught up in that crap.

1674
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 1: But the fact is two of the best quarterbacks ever

1675
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: to play. We're playing for the second time ever and

1676
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 1: maybe for the last time ever. Although after the game,

1677
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 1: Brady told me sitting there outside the Patriots locker room,

1678
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 1: and he told me that he fully plans to play

1679
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: at age forty five when they would play again. So

1680
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 1: you know, who knows. I you know, you can't tell

1681
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 1: will he be in New England, will he be playing.

1682
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 1: You just don't know. But I think I think a

1683
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 1: lot of times you get games like that. This game

1684
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:01,719
Speaker 1: really didn't live up at fortune at length. Both Brady

1685
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 1: and Rogers, they played okay, but neither of them had

1686
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 1: a great game. And so but but I do think,

1687
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 1: you know, I've been I've just been really sort of

1688
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 1: kind of put off by the fact that the NFL

1689
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:21,560
Speaker 1: really hasn't addressed some of their scheduling issue that it

1690
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: would make it possible for Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers

1691
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 1: to be starters simultaneous in the NFL, maybe a total

1692
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,640
Speaker 1: of about fourteen years as it turns out, and they

1693
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 1: and they may only play each other twice. So I

1694
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 1: think that's an issue that the NFL ought to look

1695
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 1: into to maybe make a couple of every give every

1696
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 1: team what I would call a wildcard game every year

1697
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 1: that the scheduling department in April could look at almost

1698
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 1: every team and look for every team. There wouldn't be

1699
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 1: the kind of game that would make sure that let's say,

1700
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 1: Rogers and Brady would play every other year, let's say,

1701
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 1: but you'd be able to find some game for almost

1702
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 1: every team where the stakes would be higher than just

1703
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 1: automatically putting him against a team in your own conference

1704
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 1: that finished in a like place in the standings of

1705
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 1: the previous year. Do you think there's a chance. And

1706
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 1: I've seen the Patriots play a couple of times in

1707
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 1: person on TV as well, and I've said this a

1708
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 1: couple of times on this show and also to some

1709
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 1: people around the league, and Tom Brady there were times

1710
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 1: even the other night, in a big win where he

1711
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:35,680
Speaker 1: does look forty one years old. Peter, do you do

1712
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 1: you see that? Yeah, he missed he missed one for

1713
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember. I think it was Edelman. He

1714
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 1: missed one wide open throw that you just say, Hm,

1715
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 1: why did he miss that? And maybe it's just football,

1716
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:54,640
Speaker 1: maybe it's more than that, but I would agree. I

1717
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:58,799
Speaker 1: think Brady has been he hasn't been the MVP caliber

1718
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 1: of Brady and thrown for three fifty and thrown for

1719
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 1: all the yards. But I think Steve. The one thing

1720
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 1: I would say about that is I don't think the

1721
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 1: Patriots are ever going to say it, but Rob Gronkowski

1722
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 1: is not himself. Period. That's one of the reasons why

1723
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 1: he didn't play the other day. I think physically, if

1724
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 1: he had to, he could have played. But what is

1725
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski really giving you. I mean, I'm not saying

1726
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 1: that he's fallen off the table, but Rob Gronkowski is

1727
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 1: the most important offensive player on the Patriots other than Brady.

1728
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 1: If he's not there, I think that has a big

1729
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 1: effect on how the Patriots due. I think that's number

1730
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 1: one and number two. I think that you know, teams

1731
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:48,640
Speaker 1: just go to school on players and on offenses. And

1732
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 1: the way that the Patriots won that game the other night,

1733
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 1: I believe is in managing how they played tempo football.

1734
01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 1: You know, they came out the first series of the

1735
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 1: game and were uber tempo. And I think Josh McDaniels

1736
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 1: felt like, I do not have a full compliment tonight.

1737
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 1: I don't have my best running back, I don't have

1738
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 1: my best receiver or the football and Gronk and and

1739
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 1: so I have to figure out a way to sort

1740
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:19,600
Speaker 1: of make up the rules as you go along. And

1741
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:22,640
Speaker 1: that's what he did, and playing really fast, so it

1742
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 1: enabled the Patriots to play against the defense that couldn't substitute.

1743
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 1: So you know, again, I think there's a lot of

1744
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,640
Speaker 1: things at play here, Steve, but I would agree with you.

1745
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 1: I think Brady has been good to very good, and

1746
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 1: he hasn't He hasn't been as great as he was

1747
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 1: a year ago. And Peter, before I let you go,

1748
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 1: we want to give a chance to talk about a

1749
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:46,679
Speaker 1: good friend of your as you lost a good friend

1750
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 1: when doctor Zee Paul Zimmerman passed away the other day.

1751
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 1: Steve and I were talking a little bit this morning

1752
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 1: about him. We both had a brief encounters with him.

1753
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 1: We both found him to be very interesting, very gruff,

1754
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 1: and very brusq, which I'm sure you did too, and

1755
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 1: you're and long term relationship with him, and you found

1756
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 1: a lot of good things about doctor z right. Well,

1757
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 1: I mean I when I wrote about him in my

1758
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 1: column this week, Um, I mean, look, I got a

1759
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 1: one particular email from a from a reader saying, how

1760
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:19,719
Speaker 1: in the world can you speak ill of the dead?

1761
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 1: In essence? Because I said there, I said a couple

1762
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:26,440
Speaker 1: of critical things. I have had some moments with Paul Zimmerman,

1763
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 1: which is one of the reasons why I think he

1764
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 1: and I m kind of got along because I would

1765
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 1: tell him when I thought he was being a bleep

1766
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 1: that he belief Um, and I would and I and

1767
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm not a confrontational person, but I was at times

1768
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 1: with him because I think sometimes, I think in sometimes

1769
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 1: in life we're all jerks, and he certainly was one sometimes.

1770
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 1: But having said all that, um, I I mean what

1771
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 1: I what I tried to portray in what I wrote

1772
01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 1: my column, is that I think everybody has a weakness

1773
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 1: or two in their in their personal lives and how

1774
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 1: they are to other people. He had definitely had some

1775
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 1: of them. But I'm very very happy that I got

1776
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,560
Speaker 1: to know him as well as I did, and I

1777
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 1: got to be around him as well as I did,

1778
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 1: because to me, you know, that was that was that

1779
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 1: was a flaw that he had. But there were so

1780
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:30,560
Speaker 1: many things about him that I appreciated and enjoyed and

1781
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: quite frankly, learned an incredible amount about. Uh that that now,

1782
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 1: when I do something and really really dive deep into

1783
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: why something happened in a football game, so much of

1784
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 1: that is because Paul Zimmerman showed me the way. And

1785
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:52,679
Speaker 1: you know, he never ever wanted football to be easy.

1786
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 1: He hated simplistic explanations of what happened in the game.

1787
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 1: He thought it was insulting. And I think sometimes as

1788
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 1: people in the media, especially, you know, obviously if we

1789
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 1: haven't played sometimes we can say, oh, here's why it

1790
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 1: is happened. Well, there's there's a cavalcade of reasons why

1791
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:14,600
Speaker 1: something happens the way it happened in the game. And

1792
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 1: Paul always wanted you to make sure that you held

1793
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 1: a mirror up to the complexity of a play of

1794
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 1: a game of a season, and if you were trying

1795
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:30,639
Speaker 1: to explain it, you explained it using that complexity, because

1796
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 1: that was what was real. That's a great tribute Peter.

1797
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:38,440
Speaker 1: Our thoughts and wishes go of course, to Paul Zimmerman's

1798
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 1: family into you. I know you lost a good friend.

1799
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:42,560
Speaker 1: Thank you for being with Thanks Peter, Hey, all the

1800
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:45,719
Speaker 1: best guys. Thanks you. Peter King, NBC Sports Pro Football

1801
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 1: Talky Right Football Morning in America. You can catch it

1802
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 1: online on Monday mornings. Always good reading. We thank Peter

1803
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 1: for joining us on the Subway Fresh Take Highline, presented

1804
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 1: by Subway Restaurants, proud to be locally owned and operated.

1805
01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 1: We're back with more. One goes live from One Bill's

1806
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 1: Drive Full of Bills Radio. We're back, We're back, right,

1807
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 1: Welcome back, John Murphy, Steve Tasker. I know I feel

1808
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:29,679
Speaker 1: like I'm a little disconnected. We're disconnected, but we are connected.

1809
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 1: We are demented and disconnected and pathological as well. Welcome

1810
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 1: back to the show. Our thanks to Peter King for

1811
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 1: joining us. All right, Steve, question about the Cleveland Browns.

1812
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:44,759
Speaker 1: Which is which strains credulity more? Which is more difficult

1813
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 1: to believe? Greg Williams last week saying I had eleven

1814
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 1: other job offers before I decided to take the Cleveland Browns,

1815
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 1: and four of them that I didn't even have to

1816
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 1: show up, just signed a contract. Now more, Bruce Arians

1817
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 1: saying Cleveland is the only job I would consider. He

1818
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 1: was in Cleveland with CBS's past weekend part of the

1819
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 1: Kansas City Browns game. Uh sixty six years old, just

1820
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 1: left the Arizona Cardinals. Which is harder to believe, Greg

1821
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 1: Williams saying I had eleven other job offers to be

1822
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 1: head coach since I left Buffalo or Bruce Arians saying, quote,

1823
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 1: Cleveland is the only job. I don't know why that

1824
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 1: strikes you. Cleveland is the only job I would consider.

1825
01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 1: We talked about it this morning. I have the Green

1826
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 1: Bay Packers on the phone, which is the least, which

1827
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 1: is more difficult to believe. No, I don't want to

1828
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 1: talk to the Packers. I want the Browns or nothing.

1829
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 1: If you go to the Browns on the phone, we're

1830
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 1: not talking, mister Arians. We have the get that giant job.

1831
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 1: We have the giants here. Would you care? No, I

1832
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 1: don't want to mister Arians, the rams here with all

1833
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 1: that talent. Would you like to talk to him about

1834
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:41,640
Speaker 1: being head coach? I told you I'm only talking to

1835
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. Damn it. It's harder to believe than

1836
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 1: Greg Williams comment I think right, What is he doing?

1837
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:50,560
Speaker 1: What's he thinking? I think he wants in the conversation.

1838
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 1: I think he wants he's in the booth. What happens

1839
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 1: for a lot of coaches, and I've talked to some

1840
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 1: of them, what happens. The first thing they noticed when

1841
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:01,680
Speaker 1: they get into the booth is they can't affect the game.

1842
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 1: How easy it is. Yeah, they have no skin in

1843
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 1: the game, and they cannot affect what's going on in

1844
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 1: the field. And they see what everything's going on, they

1845
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 1: see a lot of things they agree with. They see

1846
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:11,640
Speaker 1: a lot of things that they would do, a lot

1847
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 1: of things they would do differently, and therefore they think

1848
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:18,719
Speaker 1: they do it better. They've had success. They see guys

1849
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:20,600
Speaker 1: doing things in a way that they don't agree with

1850
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 1: and not being successful. They think they could do a

1851
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 1: better job, you know, all that stuff, and they realize

1852
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 1: that in the booth they don't get to coach, right.

1853
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:33,600
Speaker 1: And I've said this a million times now. Coaching is

1854
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:36,799
Speaker 1: a lifestyle. It is not a job. It's not a career.

1855
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:39,639
Speaker 1: It is a lifestyle, and those guys want to be coaches.

1856
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 1: So I think he's saying that about the Brown's job,

1857
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 1: hoping he'll get an interview. It's one thing to says job.

1858
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 1: It's quite a different thing to say Cleveland is the

1859
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 1: only job I would consider. Oh no, I'm not laughing

1860
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:53,720
Speaker 1: at Cleveland. I love Cleveland. I love visiting there, and

1861
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 1: I think it is Listen, I think it's a great opportunity.

1862
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 1: It's a great opportunity job I would consider. Are you kidding? Coach?

1863
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 1: I see I chuckle at all that if I like

1864
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 1: and I don't go down the list of you know,

1865
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 1: head coaching jobs had always come available in the offseason

1866
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:13,720
Speaker 1: in the in the NFL. That's to say, no, I'm

1867
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:16,200
Speaker 1: not gonna talk to anybody. Peter King wrote about it.

1868
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 1: I think they've got like six different coaches in the

1869
01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 1: last seven years there, Right, it's crazy, six coaches since

1870
01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 1: Jimmy Haslin has taken over his owner. Yeah, and he

1871
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:29,719
Speaker 1: took it over. He took ownership in twenty thirteen. Alright.

1872
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 1: Twelve considers that Cleveland Browns. I don't want my phone

1873
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 1: to ring unless it's Cleveland. On the other end. That

1874
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 1: just struck me as really funny for me, How came

1875
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 1: you were laughing this morning? Now you don't. I think

1876
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 1: it is funny because because because I listen. I think

1877
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:48,679
Speaker 1: Cleveland's a great opportunity for somebody who's the right guy.

1878
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 1: I really do, and I think a lot of coaches

1879
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 1: like Bruce Arians think I am the right guy. Right.

1880
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 1: But to say, like we were laughing, I am not.

1881
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 1: I am not talking of the forty nine or I'm

1882
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 1: not talking to the Seahawk, I'm not talking to any

1883
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 1: of these other teams, the Chargers. It's Cleveland, but it

1884
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:10,720
Speaker 1: is Cleveland or nobody else. That to me, that is

1885
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 1: kind of humorous, pretty funny. Let's say a quick phone

1886
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 1: call from Tony in New York City. Hello, Tony, go ahead, Hey,

1887
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 1: good afternoon, guys. I have I have my biggest issue

1888
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:24,719
Speaker 1: with the front office with the Bills, and it really

1889
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:27,760
Speaker 1: worries me the most. More than anything, M is kind

1890
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 1: of their mentality, UM, specifically about how they're scouting and

1891
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 1: the kind of players that they're going for. I think

1892
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 1: it's kind of very closely related with analytics and the

1893
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:42,800
Speaker 1: trends over the last fifteenth, you know, ten twenty years. M.

1894
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 1: It's been very hard to break tradition with how the

1895
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 1: game is managed from the head coach position, UM looking

1896
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:53,240
Speaker 1: at the analytics instead of going with the gut feeling

1897
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 1: of the traditional way, and I think that's the same

1898
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 1: trap that a lot of scouts and gms fall into

1899
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 1: with the way they scout. Where do you see that

1900
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:04,639
Speaker 1: with the Bills, Tony, How does that apply to the Bills? Well? Okay,

1901
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:07,320
Speaker 1: so last last year, when we moved up in the

1902
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 1: second round of draft, the Jones U there was still juju.

1903
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 1: I think Kareem Hunt, Kamara dalladay Um and we moved

1904
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:18,759
Speaker 1: up with those guys on the board and we took Jones.

1905
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 1: What's that got to do with analytics? Well, I'm saying

1906
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 1: the scouting philosophy is they want the guys that look

1907
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 1: and feel like football players. Uh, they don't take chances

1908
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 1: on guys like a Sean Payton who moved up in

1909
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 1: that same round to take out the Kamara Um or

1910
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 1: with that Nick Mullins again, where are the analytics factoring

1911
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 1: into this? I don't hear or see any. Yeah, people

1912
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 1: make picks all the time, Some are good, some are

1913
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 1: not good. I don't know what analytics has to do

1914
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 1: with your your particular example, we had Peter and I'm

1915
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 1: sorry totally let me interject as well. We had Peter

1916
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 1: king On and we asked him about Mullins, the quarterback,

1917
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 1: and he went into this little monologue a few minutes,

1918
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 1: just a few minutes ago in the show about listen,

1919
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 1: all these teams see players differently. Scouting is still about

1920
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 1: what you see and what you value. And some of

1921
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 1: the things you see in the player and you value

1922
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:12,680
Speaker 1: so you grab that player and the player doesn't turn

1923
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 1: into anything. And then other times you think you see

1924
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 1: that stuff in a player and it's not there, so

1925
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 1: you can still make mistakes with the best intentions. Plus

1926
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:23,560
Speaker 1: everybody scouts guys a little differently and sees things a

1927
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:26,800
Speaker 1: little differently. So I don't know what analytical. I don't

1928
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 1: know that there's any analytics except what you can measure

1929
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 1: about a player in the draft. And where do you

1930
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be if your pick, you know, trading

1931
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:36,799
Speaker 1: up to get him or trading down. That's a separate

1932
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 1: issue as to who you think's valuable. Can you link

1933
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 1: those two, Tony, We're almost out of time here. I

1934
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 1: don't want to cut you off. Yeah, no, I mean

1935
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 1: that I don't know. As I look at your pick,

1936
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, just like you said, what they value

1937
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:54,760
Speaker 1: and what they see. I feel like our scouts in

1938
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:58,639
Speaker 1: our front office value the wrong thing qll B. They

1939
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:01,040
Speaker 1: wanted a guy that looked and felt like a quarterback

1940
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:04,080
Speaker 1: in the NFL instead of valuing the correct things, which

1941
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 1: I think are how fast they process the fields and

1942
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 1: how accurate they are, which you look at the best

1943
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL today, those are their best answributes.

1944
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:15,679
Speaker 1: And we went with somebody with big hands who plays

1945
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, who can throw it over the mountain. But

1946
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 1: those aren't what wins in the NFL today. No, let's see.

1947
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 1: I don't think the chapter has been written yet on

1948
01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, but that's okay. And I also think Tony,

1949
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 1: you're a little you're oversimplifying what happened on draft day

1950
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:32,639
Speaker 1: as well. Um, I get what you're saying, and listen,

1951
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:34,760
Speaker 1: after the fact, they're gonna make it sound as good

1952
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 1: as they can make it sound anyway, But make no mistake,

1953
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:40,800
Speaker 1: there's only so much they could control on draft days

1954
01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 1: to who was there and who they who they passed on,

1955
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 1: who they took, and who they didn't take. So I mean,

1956
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 1: you're oversimplifying it a little bit, but but I get

1957
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:52,120
Speaker 1: your point. I think I do about you know, you

1958
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 1: think they should value different things in the guys that

1959
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 1: they that they pick, and it's a point you can

1960
01:36:57,560 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 1: you can argue about all day, no question. Hey yeah,

1961
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 1: York State Lottery. Inside the Numbers. The Bills defense helped

1962
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:05,599
Speaker 1: Chicago to one hundred and ninety yards in the game

1963
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 1: on Sunday. That was the fewest by the Bills since

1964
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 1: December of twenty thirteen against Miami one hundred nine yards

1965
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 1: in a game. It's New York State Lottery. Inside the Numbers.

1966
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:18,519
Speaker 1: Take a break from the expected play scratch off games

1967
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:20,560
Speaker 1: from the New York Lottery. We're back with more in

1968
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 1: just a moment. One goes live from One Bills Drive

1969
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills Radio, Hills Radio Network story stop date

1970
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 1: the update from One Bill's Drive, or in the middle

1971
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 1: of one goes live at One Bills Drive. The Bill's

1972
01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 1: coaching staff works today getting the game plan together for

1973
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:49,720
Speaker 1: the game on Sunday. One more game before the bye

1974
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 1: week trip to the Metal ends of New Jersey coming

1975
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:55,200
Speaker 1: up this week against the Jets on Sunday. Another week

1976
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:57,559
Speaker 1: with the question market quarterback for the Bill's Derek Anderson

1977
01:37:57,640 --> 01:38:00,560
Speaker 1: still in concussion protocol. Josh Allen on a little on

1978
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:02,960
Speaker 1: the side Nathan Peterman is still available. Head coach On

1979
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 1: McDermott said yesterday he would not rule out having Josh

1980
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 1: Emland available for to play against the Jets. Amlin has

1981
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 1: not played since he was injured October fourteenth injuring his

1982
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 1: elbow against Houston, But if he cannot play, if Alan

1983
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:16,720
Speaker 1: cannot play, and if Anderson is ready, it would be

1984
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 1: Anderson once he's cleared from concussion protocol, according to McDermott.

1985
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:22,360
Speaker 1: And if neither one of those two can play, then

1986
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:24,720
Speaker 1: it would be Nathan Purnament Peterman. So stay tuned. We'll

1987
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:28,800
Speaker 1: see how the quarterback the quarterback roulette plays out this week.

1988
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:31,439
Speaker 1: Bill se some other injuries to be concerned with as well.

1989
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:34,040
Speaker 1: Running back Chris Ivory with a shoulder sprain, he is

1990
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 1: day to day. Tight End Charles Clay came up with

1991
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 1: a hamstring injury. His statis is week to week, and

1992
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:41,400
Speaker 1: defensive en Trent Murphy remains week to week with a

1993
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:44,639
Speaker 1: knee problem. Bill's added to their wide receiver corps yesterday,

1994
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:48,799
Speaker 1: claiming off waivers return specialist and wide receiver Isaiah McKenzie,

1995
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:51,759
Speaker 1: former fifth round pick of the Dallas or the Denver Broncos,

1996
01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:55,200
Speaker 1: got a call up to the Broncos active roster October

1997
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:58,400
Speaker 1: twenty fifth, but was released a week later last Friday,

1998
01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:00,720
Speaker 1: product of Georgia. To make room the roster, the Bills

1999
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 1: released wide receiver Cam Phillips. Leby On Bell on the

2000
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:06,759
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers still not in contact, and barring an unforeseen

2001
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 1: development over the next few days, it's not expected the

2002
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 1: Bell will report to the Steelers in time for their

2003
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 1: game Thursday night against Carolina. That increases the possibility that

2004
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:17,960
Speaker 1: the star running back will not play at all this season.

2005
01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 1: Keep an eye on that to what happens with leby

2006
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 1: On Bell and the Pittsburgh Steelers. College football locally, tonight,

2007
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:25,439
Speaker 1: the UB Bowls put their eight and one record on

2008
01:39:25,479 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 1: the line against Kent State. That's a seventh thirty kick

2009
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 1: off at UB Stadium. A win tonight would be Buffalo's

2010
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 1: ninth win of the season. And UB men's basketball plays

2011
01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 1: this afternoon four o'clock, a couple of hours away, opening

2012
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 1: up their season against Saint Francis of Pennsylvania, the one

2013
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:44,200
Speaker 1: hundred second year of men's basketball at UB. There you go, cbe.

2014
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:46,679
Speaker 1: That's the sports update. Steve Tasker, John Murphy one Bills

2015
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:50,519
Speaker 1: Live from one Bill's Drive. Our Twitter question today still up,

2016
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:52,439
Speaker 1: Still want to talk about it with you. Our Twitter

2017
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 1: question deals with the Buffalo offense and kind of a

2018
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:56,720
Speaker 1: look ahead to next year, and just I guess we're

2019
01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 1: looking for a sense of what you think about the

2020
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:03,160
Speaker 1: Bill's current roster and on the offensive side of the ball.

2021
01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:06,479
Speaker 1: The question not counting Josh Allen, give us three players

2022
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:09,800
Speaker 1: on offense that the Bills can build around next year.

2023
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 1: You can give us a call at eight oh three

2024
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:13,800
Speaker 1: oh five fifty or twel three one eight eight eight

2025
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:16,160
Speaker 1: by fifty two five fifty. You can tweet it in

2026
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:18,360
Speaker 1: at one Bills Live. I'd love to hear from you, though.

2027
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:21,680
Speaker 1: I came up with three, um and you know I

2028
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:24,840
Speaker 1: have reservations on all of them, Deon Dawkins, l Shan McCoy,

2029
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:27,760
Speaker 1: and Zay Jones. Questions and reservations. Other than that, I

2030
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 1: think it'd be you'd be hard pressed to identify guys

2031
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 1: that you just absolutely have to have on the roster

2032
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:34,800
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball next year. Ryan

2033
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:38,640
Speaker 1: and Ryan Brennan treats in Dawkins, Teller, Jones, and then

2034
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 1: he has consolation prizes for Miller, Crum and Murphy. I mean,

2035
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:42,960
Speaker 1: these are all the names that you know, it's not

2036
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 1: that many of them, no, and it and you start

2037
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:47,800
Speaker 1: to get into a coin flip with some of these

2038
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:51,799
Speaker 1: guys because you know, particularly with a guy like Wyatt,

2039
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 1: Teller and Croom who now are probably going to start

2040
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:57,719
Speaker 1: to see a little more action. I know, Teller actually

2041
01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 1: got on the field I think first first extended action

2042
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:04,040
Speaker 1: of the season against the Bears. They got to start

2043
01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:07,599
Speaker 1: looking at these guys and if if that's what it takes, yeah,

2044
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:10,200
Speaker 1: you mentioned it. They've got a lot of offensive linemen

2045
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 1: on their roster. You can look for them to start

2046
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:14,080
Speaker 1: looking for a combination that works better than the one

2047
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:17,439
Speaker 1: they've had. And it's you know, they're trying everything and

2048
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 1: I've we've said it a bunch on the show, not

2049
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:24,480
Speaker 1: only with schemes and routes and concepts, but personnel combinations, formations,

2050
01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:34,160
Speaker 1: wildcat shifts, motions, runs, passes. I mean, the list goes on.

2051
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 1: I mean yeah. Jim Kubiak, a guest on the show

2052
01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 1: earlier today, the quarterback out of Navy, wrote an article

2053
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:43,720
Speaker 1: in the Buffalo News today about Nathan Peterman. He said,

2054
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 1: you know, and he was right, Brian Dables got to

2055
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:50,120
Speaker 1: be the hardest working man in football right now, trying

2056
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:53,680
Speaker 1: to find something, jump through some fiery hoop that will

2057
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 1: be some magic elixir that will give them some first

2058
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 1: downs on the get them on the field, and keep

2059
01:41:58,200 --> 01:41:59,720
Speaker 1: them on the field and get them in the end zone.

2060
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:04,479
Speaker 1: It's a it's been. It's been unbelievably difficult for this

2061
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:06,960
Speaker 1: team to stay on the field on offense and have

2062
01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 1: some success. Which three offensive players would you try to

2063
01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 1: build around next year that are currently on the Buffalo roster?

2064
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:14,960
Speaker 1: Give us a call. Eight oh three h five fifty

2065
01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:18,280
Speaker 1: or twel three one eight eight eight five fifty two

2066
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:21,599
Speaker 1: five fifty. Elvin calling from the Bronx, New York. Hello, Elvin,

2067
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:23,719
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air with this. Hey, guys,

2068
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:25,840
Speaker 1: what's going on? How's everything? How are you guys feeling today?

2069
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:28,640
Speaker 1: Feel good? How are you doing good? Good? I'm all right.

2070
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:31,120
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna allow you guys. Man, I'm devastated with

2071
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:34,799
Speaker 1: this year. I thought, just like yourselves up so no offense.

2072
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:38,599
Speaker 1: So I've taken this little hard but um, we'll be okay.

2073
01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 1: But m to kind of answer you guys questions Aside

2074
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 1: from the obvious of Koy, Josh Allen, and you know.

2075
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:49,600
Speaker 1: Aside from those, I'll look to keep Murphy Crooms and

2076
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 1: day Jones, which last year. I'd like to add this

2077
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:56,280
Speaker 1: before you guys let me go. I'm surprised they didn't

2078
01:42:56,439 --> 01:43:01,559
Speaker 1: trade Benjamin. Like it's obvious, I don't think future. What's

2079
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:03,639
Speaker 1: your guys are paying on? Why they've been and trade

2080
01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:06,120
Speaker 1: him before that life? Probably because they didn't like what

2081
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 1: was out there on the free agent market, and probably

2082
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:09,680
Speaker 1: didn't like what was in the draft. It was a

2083
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:14,960
Speaker 1: probably offered in returning right, and they probably didn't want

2084
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:16,759
Speaker 1: to trade him for you know, a bag of footballs,

2085
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:18,600
Speaker 1: you know, or whatever they else. They thought that this

2086
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:21,439
Speaker 1: is a guy too, And think about this, Kelvin. Benjamin's

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Speaker 1: in a contract year. To me, that's the most amazing

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Speaker 1: part about this entire equation. What do you mean? What

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Speaker 1: do I mean? It doesn't it seems like he's in

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Speaker 1: the last year. I mean the last year of his career,

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Speaker 1: let alone the last year of a contract where he's

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01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:41,439
Speaker 1: gonna try and sign a life changer. Yeah, I think

2093
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:43,320
Speaker 1: many of us expected it would go the other way, right,

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01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:45,280
Speaker 1: last year of his contract or good. That means he'll

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01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:48,519
Speaker 1: be uh, he's gonna be motivated he's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be he's gonna be hollering about not getting

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01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 1: the ball. He's gonna be you know, everything, and none

2098
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:56,920
Speaker 1: of it has come to None of it has been

2099
01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:01,240
Speaker 1: the cases you would normally expect. I mean, he hasn't

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01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 1: you know, he hasn't been, he hasn't shown. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's frustrated with the with the not with

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Speaker 1: the effort, with the with his production. I'm sure he's

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01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:12,040
Speaker 1: quite frustrated with the amount of opportunities he's got, and

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01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 1: he wants the ball more probably, you know, all receivers

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01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:17,479
Speaker 1: are like that. But man, oh man, he at times

2106
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:21,680
Speaker 1: looks disinterested. And that's amazing to me for a guy

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01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:23,200
Speaker 1: who's been in the league as long as he has,

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01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:25,200
Speaker 1: and now he's in a contract year with a chance

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01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 1: to hit free agency after you know, after a year

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01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:32,760
Speaker 1: where he's proven that good or bad, he's gonna give

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01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:35,360
Speaker 1: a full effort. He's gonna make some plays for his team.

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01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:38,559
Speaker 1: He's gonna do everything he can on film at least

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01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:41,960
Speaker 1: to help his team win in a bad situation. I mean,

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01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 1: that says a lot about a guy, and it doesn't

2115
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:45,559
Speaker 1: seem to be there for him. Let's take a call

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01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:48,880
Speaker 1: from Frank on a cell phone. Go ahead, Frank around

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01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 1: the air. Hey Murph, how are you today? Great quick question,

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01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:58,479
Speaker 1: Connor McDermott. This tackle that's been on the fifty three

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01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:01,720
Speaker 1: man roster for now a year and a half and

2120
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:05,799
Speaker 1: as yet to be active for one game. What exactly

2121
01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:08,519
Speaker 1: is to deal with this guy? And why haven't why

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01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:11,560
Speaker 1: hasn't he even been given an opportunity to play? I

2123
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 1: mean he's not even active, Yeah, in a year and

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01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:17,280
Speaker 1: a half. Yeah, that's a that's a good question, and

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01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 1: I don't have the answer for it. But I think

2126
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:22,760
Speaker 1: the ant you know, one thing is obvious. They don't

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01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 1: think he's a better option. I mean, I think there's

2128
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:28,519
Speaker 1: no question that's obvious. And that's a you know, as

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01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:30,680
Speaker 1: bad as they're playing, that's the amazing part about it.

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01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:33,080
Speaker 1: You know what, he was active for three games last

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01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:36,559
Speaker 1: year and one game so far this year. Didn't start

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01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:39,439
Speaker 1: any games. He's taken that okay, I mean I bet

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01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:42,120
Speaker 1: you he if he played a snap or two, that'd

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01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 1: be stunning. Yeah. Played, No, there's no question about that.

2135
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 1: But he has been active. I wanted to point that out.

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01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:49,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, I think they view him

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01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:52,439
Speaker 1: as a guy in development. Uh claimed him off the

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01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 1: waivers wire from the Patriots. I believe, but maybe that

2139
01:45:56,680 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 1: that might change, right, we saw it. Whyatt Teller get

2140
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:00,840
Speaker 1: in the other day. We saw searles get in the

2141
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:02,920
Speaker 1: other day. Maybe mcdermot's on that list of guys will

2142
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 1: get an audition here second half of the season. Why

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01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:06,720
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you? Yeah, I mean that's the I think

2144
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 1: that's where you're You got to think where it's gonna happen, Frank,

2145
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:11,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna start rotating these guys in and

2146
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:14,920
Speaker 1: trying things. They're two and seven now, even if they

2147
01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 1: strung you know, seven victories together, they're not getting in

2148
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I don't think not this year. And I mean, well, now,

2149
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 1: there's no way they will. Don't think too hard, right,

2150
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:30,640
Speaker 1: So they're gonna start getting the test tubes out and

2151
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:33,800
Speaker 1: start making having some experiments about what combinations will work

2152
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:35,559
Speaker 1: better and finding out about guys. And think you can

2153
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:37,720
Speaker 1: bet too that they'll probably move guys around who've been

2154
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 1: playing a single spot. They'll probably start moving them around,

2155
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:42,760
Speaker 1: giving them an opportunity to prove themselves. Other than it's

2156
01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 1: gonna be an enormous preseason for some of these young guys.

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01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:48,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to start thinking about next year's preseason yet, Steve. No, No,

2158
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking about they're treating this like a preseason where

2159
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:53,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna try different combinations. They're gonna move guys around there.

2160
01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 1: You know whyat teller may play both guards at times.

2161
01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 1: You know, they may you know, throw the guys in

2162
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:03,200
Speaker 1: at tackle like a guy like uh Connor McDermott. He

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01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:04,800
Speaker 1: may get a chance to see some reps on in

2164
01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:09,240
Speaker 1: a real game. So we'll see. But the experimentation process

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01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:12,960
Speaker 1: I think has started. Greg had something else. No, that's it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Rank, Thank you guys. Okay, hey, guys, thank you

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01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:24,200
Speaker 1: for taking my call. Certainly, Hey, um, I just want

2168
01:47:24,320 --> 01:47:27,880
Speaker 1: your thoughts on I've just been focusing on the offensive

2169
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:32,080
Speaker 1: line and they're they're terrible run blocking. I don't understand

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01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:35,640
Speaker 1: how they can be as bad as they are at

2171
01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 1: run blocking. I mean, I know we had a couple

2172
01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:41,800
Speaker 1: of guys they're they're not there this year that we

2173
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:45,559
Speaker 1: thought we're gonna be there. But I mean other I mean,

2174
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:48,240
Speaker 1: all these players come out of the same pool, right,

2175
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:51,000
Speaker 1: They all come out of the colleges, they all most

2176
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:53,800
Speaker 1: of them are drafted, maybe some of them aren't. How

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01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:56,960
Speaker 1: can you have all these offensive linemen on the team

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01:47:57,280 --> 01:48:01,200
Speaker 1: and they just cannot run block. I mean virtually every

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01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:05,160
Speaker 1: running play they're in the backfield making a tackle and

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01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:09,560
Speaker 1: they can't Our guys can't move any defenders off the

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01:48:09,640 --> 01:48:13,599
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. I just don't understand it. I think

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Speaker 1: the mark I think the thing about it is that

2183
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 1: most surprising is that four of those guys that were

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01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:22,400
Speaker 1: here last year, both guards and both tackles, did a

2185
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:24,679
Speaker 1: much better job last year at different at the spots

2186
01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:26,519
Speaker 1: they were in than they are doing this year. That's

2187
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:29,519
Speaker 1: the surprising where we've seen him do it, And with

2188
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:33,439
Speaker 1: the exception of Russ Bodine the center, he's really the

2189
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:36,720
Speaker 1: only piece that's different. And I'm with you, it's it's

2190
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:39,120
Speaker 1: not so much that you see him like leaving guys

2191
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:40,640
Speaker 1: are not Although they did some of that early in

2192
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 1: the season, letting guys run free, and they weren't communicating

2193
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:45,160
Speaker 1: well and they weren't getting things sorted out up front.

2194
01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:48,280
Speaker 1: They brought Russell Bodine in off the bench and they

2195
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:50,320
Speaker 1: started to get that straightened out. But they they're not

2196
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:52,840
Speaker 1: getting any push in the running game they're not winning

2197
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:54,720
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage a Sean McDermott has said a

2198
01:48:54,760 --> 01:48:58,080
Speaker 1: time and time again, and that to me is the

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01:48:58,160 --> 01:49:00,800
Speaker 1: most surprising thing about this whole scenario and how this

2200
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:04,160
Speaker 1: has gone so badly offensively for the Bills. The fact

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01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:06,240
Speaker 1: that we've seen some of these guys play better than

2202
01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:08,840
Speaker 1: they're playing this year, and not just some of them,

2203
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:12,599
Speaker 1: four of them. And that's the that's the amazing part

2204
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:15,439
Speaker 1: to me, Mark, it is amazing. I don't know the answers.

2205
01:49:15,439 --> 01:49:17,760
Speaker 1: I wish I knew more about what's going on or

2206
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:22,720
Speaker 1: how you know what constitutes effective offensive mind player. I don't. So. Yeah,

2207
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:25,080
Speaker 1: it's out there, you see it that it's not working

2208
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:27,160
Speaker 1: in the run or the past, but I don't understand

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Speaker 1: why that is. All right, John Murphy, Steve Tasker, One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. I want to talk

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Speaker 1: a little bit about a team that has a lot

2212
01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:37,679
Speaker 1: of fans. There are America's team after all, the Dallas Cowboys,

2213
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:41,519
Speaker 1: And yet Cowboys dropped a tough one again last night

2214
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 1: as their owner and general manager talking about war. No,

2215
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:46,599
Speaker 1: we're not ready to replace the coach just yet. What's

2216
01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 1: going on with the Dallas Cowboys on the subway. Fresh

2217
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:50,680
Speaker 1: take hotline with us is the guy who covers the

2218
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:53,600
Speaker 1: Cowboys for the Fort Worth Star Telegram. He's covered the

2219
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:56,120
Speaker 1: Cowboys since nineteen ninety seven. Happy to have Clarence Hill

2220
01:49:56,200 --> 01:49:57,960
Speaker 1: Junior on the line with us. How about Clarence John

2221
01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 1: Murphy's team tasker up here in Buffalo? How are you

2222
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:02,920
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us today? How you guys doing, Man,

2223
01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm buying great weather down there, just as a gloom

2224
01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:09,160
Speaker 1: over the city. We're talking about Buffalo or Dallas, we

2225
01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:11,640
Speaker 1: got the same gloom. We got the same conditions here.

2226
01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, LaRence, what happened last night?

2227
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:15,799
Speaker 1: I was stunning. You know, the Bills beat the Tennessee

2228
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:18,120
Speaker 1: Titans about a month ago. I never I guess I

2229
01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:21,160
Speaker 1: hadn't keep kept real close tabs on the Cowboys, but man,

2230
01:50:21,240 --> 01:50:23,240
Speaker 1: I would think they were better than the than the

2231
01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:26,280
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Listen to no one's off is coming, you know.

2232
01:50:26,439 --> 01:50:29,040
Speaker 1: And and certainly the Titans have been they have not

2233
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:32,400
Speaker 1: been good. I think they had lost about fourth grade games,

2234
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:35,040
Speaker 1: and the offense and not score a lot. And and

2235
01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:37,840
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have played well at home, you know, they

2236
01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:39,800
Speaker 1: just haven't played well on the road, and you know,

2237
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:42,639
Speaker 1: everybody just chalked us up to four win, especially after

2238
01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:45,920
Speaker 1: coming off of bye and and the major changes adding

2239
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:48,640
Speaker 1: to Mark Cooper find off the office line code. They

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01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:50,560
Speaker 1: thought that, you know, this was gonna put this in

2241
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:52,200
Speaker 1: the debit. They're gonna get off to this start for

2242
01:50:52,280 --> 01:50:55,200
Speaker 1: the technd half of the season. And it was a

2243
01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:58,960
Speaker 1: complete shocker, complete blind side that the Cowboys lost like

2244
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 1: that twenty eight fourteen uh double digit loss at home. Uh.

2245
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:08,080
Speaker 1: You know, Jerry Jones is continued to be dug in

2246
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:11,880
Speaker 1: on his coach in the quarterback but fans, uh, you know,

2247
01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:15,679
Speaker 1: they're pillowed in the street right now. They're they're they're upset. Yeah,

2248
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:18,000
Speaker 1: as always when a loss like this happens, particularly the

2249
01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:21,519
Speaker 1: Cowboys at home, I mean, Jason Garrett's job is always

2250
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:24,560
Speaker 1: brought up to Jerry, and Jerry has always continued to

2251
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:26,600
Speaker 1: be very confident that he doesn't want to make a

2252
01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:28,760
Speaker 1: change at head coach. Now, he did say it's not

2253
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:31,760
Speaker 1: going to happen during the season. Do you see any

2254
01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:35,600
Speaker 1: crack in that relationship at all? Well, I mean, I

2255
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:38,240
Speaker 1: mean I think that that Jerry is frustrated and he

2256
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:41,639
Speaker 1: liked Jason is comfortable with Jason and remains supportable with Jason.

2257
01:51:42,160 --> 01:51:45,439
Speaker 1: But at the same time last night, while he was saying,

2258
01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:48,240
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not making a coaching change, he continued

2259
01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:52,080
Speaker 1: to say how disappointed and shocked and how he didn't

2260
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:55,679
Speaker 1: see that performance coming and how they're not playing well

2261
01:51:56,479 --> 01:52:00,639
Speaker 1: in all of that and that just not bold well

2262
01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:04,520
Speaker 1: for the code. How do you explain, um, the inactivity

2263
01:52:04,600 --> 01:52:07,439
Speaker 1: of Ezekiel Elliott's second half last night? Things have seen

2264
01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:09,519
Speaker 1: to be going pretty well first half. Did they say

2265
01:52:09,600 --> 01:52:11,719
Speaker 1: why they didn't really use him? Body have six touches

2266
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:13,800
Speaker 1: in the second half last night. Well, you know, they

2267
01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:15,559
Speaker 1: didn't have a ball a lot earlier. Then when they

2268
01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:17,639
Speaker 1: got behind, they were trying to you know, they got

2269
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:19,560
Speaker 1: double you know, two touch of nine had to go

2270
01:52:19,640 --> 01:52:21,320
Speaker 1: to balls. You know, they had a big car over

2271
01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 1: the third quarter. They've changed the game and they weren't

2272
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:27,920
Speaker 1: converting and you know, the game and those type of

2273
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:32,120
Speaker 1: things can slip away from you. Um and and again

2274
01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:35,519
Speaker 1: when he get out of ball and there were opportunities, Uh,

2275
01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:38,760
Speaker 1: they weren't opening holes. The officer the line, you know,

2276
01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 1: the cowboys. You know, one thing that they thought that

2277
01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:44,599
Speaker 1: they can count on was the running game and officers line,

2278
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:47,639
Speaker 1: and and and it has not been there for them.

2279
01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:49,320
Speaker 1: You know, look at some of the red zone things,

2280
01:52:49,400 --> 01:52:51,080
Speaker 1: so different things they've tried to do in the run

2281
01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:53,439
Speaker 1: and and and it is not worked. And you can

2282
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:56,000
Speaker 1: blame the loss of Travis Frederick, the All Poles center

2283
01:52:56,680 --> 01:53:00,080
Speaker 1: who had a Gillian Bear syndrome. And but but the

2284
01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:02,360
Speaker 1: guys are not playing up to the level of they

2285
01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:04,880
Speaker 1: have in past year, like left tackle Tyran Smith and

2286
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:07,600
Speaker 1: right tackle Ll Collins is taking a step back in

2287
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:10,840
Speaker 1: the second round. Pickers Tonna Williams has been offered, you know,

2288
01:53:10,920 --> 01:53:14,080
Speaker 1: so they really can't rely on that running game because

2289
01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:16,120
Speaker 1: the offense line has not been as good as they

2290
01:53:16,160 --> 01:53:18,280
Speaker 1: talked the word, and again the game got away from him.

2291
01:53:18,479 --> 01:53:20,960
Speaker 1: We're talking with Clarence Hill, Junior of the fort the

2292
01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:23,800
Speaker 1: fort Worth Star Telegram about the Dallas Cowboys lost last

2293
01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:27,040
Speaker 1: night to the Tennessee Titans twenty eight fourteen. We've we've

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Speaker 1: heard that Jerry has said Dak is going to get

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01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:32,080
Speaker 1: an extension. I mean, he's the guy they're going to

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01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:34,640
Speaker 1: go move forward with. And I know every time you

2297
01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:37,720
Speaker 1: lose a game of this magnitude, you know that comes

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01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:40,200
Speaker 1: into question. But Dak seems to be his own worst

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01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:42,439
Speaker 1: enemy as well. I mean some it's his own mistakes

2300
01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:45,760
Speaker 1: that are kind of keeping him from and and the

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01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:47,840
Speaker 1: offense maybe from being as productive as it should be.

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Speaker 1: Is that the way you see Clarence, Yeah, I mean,

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01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:53,240
Speaker 1: you know the thing about that which what they liked

2304
01:53:53,240 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 1: about in the early on in this career was he

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01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:58,040
Speaker 1: didn't make mistakes. He didn't turn the ball over. People

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01:53:58,040 --> 01:54:00,720
Speaker 1: attended the football, and that's not been the case over

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01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:03,760
Speaker 1: the last two years, certainly not this year. He has

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01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:05,840
Speaker 1: ten games with two of them are turnovers. In these

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01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:11,960
Speaker 1: games started twenty seventeen season at least League the Cowboys,

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01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:13,880
Speaker 1: the Olden Fathers show he turns the ball over the

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01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:15,680
Speaker 1: three and old When he doesn't, then you look at

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01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:18,080
Speaker 1: the losses the last two weeks especially, you know, he

2313
01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:21,080
Speaker 1: had two critical fumbles and turnovers against rescues that turned

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01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:22,800
Speaker 1: the game around and then it was a difference in

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01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:25,680
Speaker 1: the game. And last night against Tennessee, you know, he

2316
01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:28,519
Speaker 1: had an interception of a horrible decision to fourth rowal

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01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:31,479
Speaker 1: in double coverage and end zone that cast the Cowboys

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01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:34,000
Speaker 1: point and the Titans turned into point. And he had

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01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:35,840
Speaker 1: a fumble in the third quarter that changed the game

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01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:38,080
Speaker 1: and turned from a tie game but to a twenty

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Speaker 1: one fourteen devil, and you know type never looked back.

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01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:44,560
Speaker 1: So his turnovers were but different in the losses. And

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01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:46,800
Speaker 1: you know, those are the issues that dead has in

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01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:49,240
Speaker 1: addition to you know, he's never gonna be Tom Brady

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01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:51,800
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers forwards the accuracy, so you need him to

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01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:54,680
Speaker 1: protect the football and make plays when they're there, and

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01:54:54,760 --> 01:54:58,360
Speaker 1: he's not doing that. Clarence Amari Cooper last night eight targets,

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01:54:58,440 --> 01:55:01,720
Speaker 1: five catches, fifty eight yards, one touchdown and his first

2329
01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:04,080
Speaker 1: game of the Dallas Cowboys after coming over in the trade.

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01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:05,960
Speaker 1: Does he look like a guy who can make a

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01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:11,360
Speaker 1: difference change things considerably in the Dallas offense, particularly can

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01:55:11,480 --> 01:55:13,920
Speaker 1: but you know, you know drest Dot got sacked five

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01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 1: times last night, you know, and you have to have

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01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:17,880
Speaker 1: time to get the ball down the field to your

2335
01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:20,560
Speaker 1: play nickers and then he didn't have that his offensive line.

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01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:23,480
Speaker 1: You know. The one thing about it is everybody liked

2337
01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:25,760
Speaker 1: the trade. I guess if from a Cowboys point of

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01:55:25,800 --> 01:55:28,080
Speaker 1: view in terms of trying to win. Now you give

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01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 1: them a first round pick for a top receiver you

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01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:33,640
Speaker 1: think as the future, you know, especially considering you know,

2341
01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 1: you look at the receivers coming in the draft and

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01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 1: you say, well, you know they're not you know, at

2343
01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 1: least according of the so called experts, are not a

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01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:43,400
Speaker 1: receiver rating the top twenty five and one of the

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01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:46,520
Speaker 1: prospects coming to the draft. So let's you know, this

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01:55:46,640 --> 01:55:47,960
Speaker 1: is a good pick because they're gonna be looking for

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01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:50,160
Speaker 1: the receiver. But that's one thing where you think the

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01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:52,760
Speaker 1: Cowboys are gonna make a run and be competitive and

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01:55:53,960 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 1: picking in the nineteen twenty twenty one or two, two, three,

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01:55:56,600 --> 01:56:00,720
Speaker 1: twenty four, twenty five. You know, but at the tree

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01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:03,240
Speaker 1: and contains as it is, and they're giving up a

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01:56:03,320 --> 01:56:05,480
Speaker 1: top ten pick on they're in the top ten, would

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01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 1: you give up a top ten pick one? You know,

2354
01:56:07,720 --> 01:56:09,200
Speaker 1: do you rethink the trade if you have a top

2355
01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:12,080
Speaker 1: ten pick and you're giving up Yeah, yeah, you're right. Yeah,

2356
01:56:12,160 --> 01:56:14,200
Speaker 1: it's hard to Yeah, it's hard to see the future.

2357
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:16,280
Speaker 1: But when you make these trades. But yeah, you're right.

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01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:18,240
Speaker 1: You got to take all that stuff into account. I

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01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:22,160
Speaker 1: was wanting to ask you one more thing. Also, how

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01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:26,000
Speaker 1: much pressure is the is Jerry putting on the football side.

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01:56:26,160 --> 01:56:28,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he mentioned last night that his team looked

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01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:31,040
Speaker 1: tired in the second half and I know Jerry's involved

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01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:35,080
Speaker 1: in every single aspect of the team. Uh, what are

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01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:38,600
Speaker 1: they saying about you know, the overall state of affairs

2365
01:56:38,640 --> 01:56:41,000
Speaker 1: there in the Dallas with the football in Jason Garrett

2366
01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:43,400
Speaker 1: seems to be safe, but what about the coaching staff

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01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:45,360
Speaker 1: and the schemes that they're running in Dallas? Are the

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01:56:46,040 --> 01:56:48,040
Speaker 1: h they are they getting the most out of the

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01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 1: talent they have? Well, that's the question. And defense fourth

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01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:53,680
Speaker 1: in the league. And again, you know we saw that

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01:56:53,800 --> 01:56:57,920
Speaker 1: Titans offense. They can put a level of fourteen third down.

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01:56:59,680 --> 01:57:01,360
Speaker 1: I mean, they couldn't get off the field. They couldn't

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01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:03,160
Speaker 1: get them off the field, and they were in the

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01:57:03,160 --> 01:57:05,040
Speaker 1: You know, the Chagans have a collection of no name

2375
01:57:05,120 --> 01:57:08,160
Speaker 1: receivers and guys you've never heard of other than Corey Davis.

2376
01:57:08,240 --> 01:57:10,480
Speaker 1: But there there's a bunch of guys like how these

2377
01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:12,480
Speaker 1: guys getting open and they want to get to the quarterbacks.

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01:57:12,520 --> 01:57:14,800
Speaker 1: They wren't getting them off the field. So you know,

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01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:17,080
Speaker 1: they think they have better talent than what they showed

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01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:18,920
Speaker 1: last night. But they didn't play well and that's part

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01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:22,280
Speaker 1: of Jared's appoyment. You know, there's no way they should

2382
01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:25,520
Speaker 1: have performed like that. Been tired like that coming off

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01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:28,960
Speaker 1: ay by you know, and and and so. Yeah, he

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01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:31,640
Speaker 1: promises no ny season coach to chase amongst any of

2385
01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:35,040
Speaker 1: these uh head coach others systems. He said, they're not

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01:57:35,080 --> 01:57:37,880
Speaker 1: gonna make him no philosophical change as far as how

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01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:40,320
Speaker 1: they do things, because you can't do that right now.

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01:57:40,840 --> 01:57:42,560
Speaker 1: But at the end of the season, all bets off

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01:57:42,840 --> 01:57:45,600
Speaker 1: and Clarence, uh, the spotlight gets a little brighter now.

2390
01:57:45,680 --> 01:57:48,640
Speaker 1: Monday night football, last night, Sunday night football this week,

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01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:51,920
Speaker 1: right with the matchup against the defending Super Bowl champion Eagles,

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01:57:52,120 --> 01:57:54,360
Speaker 1: I would imagine things are gonna get a little hot

2393
01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:57,000
Speaker 1: in Dallas this week leaning up to that game. Huh yeah.

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01:57:57,240 --> 01:57:59,160
Speaker 1: And that's always been the case of the couple. They

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01:57:59,240 --> 01:58:01,800
Speaker 1: always have the time games. Right now, you look at it,

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01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:05,920
Speaker 1: it's not just the Eagles. You look at the next

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01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:07,720
Speaker 1: four games. You know, that's why you have to put

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01:58:07,760 --> 01:58:10,160
Speaker 1: this one to bed against the Titan You have you

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01:58:10,240 --> 01:58:12,560
Speaker 1: play at the Eagles and a showdown on Sunday night

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01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:15,400
Speaker 1: against the defendive foot bow champions who are trying to

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01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:17,720
Speaker 1: improve their team, where everybody believes you're gonna the swift

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01:58:17,760 --> 01:58:21,280
Speaker 1: and be the Eagles are old at some point you

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01:58:21,400 --> 01:58:24,160
Speaker 1: got that game. You go to Atlanta after that and

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01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:27,160
Speaker 1: play the Falcons, who's seemilarly trying to get their offense together,

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01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:29,840
Speaker 1: and you know, Julio Jones filing score down and they're

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01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:32,680
Speaker 1: high scoring offense. And you haven't played Roldan Rods. Wee

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01:58:32,720 --> 01:58:34,520
Speaker 1: out those two bowl games, you know, And you talk

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01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:37,920
Speaker 1: about the primetime game this week. And then on Thanksgiving Day,

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01:58:37,960 --> 01:58:39,960
Speaker 1: on a short week after the Falcon game, you played

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01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:45,080
Speaker 1: the Riskins and another showdown that game against the really Skins,

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01:58:45,080 --> 01:58:48,400
Speaker 1: who Thanksgiving Day, you know, they're a division leader five

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01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:50,520
Speaker 1: and three. You know, you didn't take care offends at home.

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01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:55,240
Speaker 1: And then after that you have another Thursday night game

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01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:59,440
Speaker 1: against the New Orleans Saints to baby the best team

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01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:03,520
Speaker 1: in bar right now, you know, And that's a Thursnight

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01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:07,920
Speaker 1: prop that gay. So it is eighties right now and down.

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01:59:08,480 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 1: If you think the season were now, it could be

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01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:15,160
Speaker 1: over short. They wo don't take offense, Clarence, But I'm

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01:59:15,160 --> 01:59:17,160
Speaker 1: already sick of the Cowboys on my TV. I don't

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01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:20,400
Speaker 1: need all of that coming up. Thanks, Clarence, it's good

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01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:22,480
Speaker 1: to talk with you. Thank you very much. All right,

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Speaker 1: no problem, guys. Clarence Hill covers the Cowboys, and he

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01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:28,080
Speaker 1: has for more than twenty years now for the fort

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Speaker 1: Worst Star Telegram. Joining us on the Subway Fresh Take Hotline,

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01:59:31,480 --> 01:59:34,720
Speaker 1: Subway Eat Fresh, John Murphy, Steve Tasker, coming back with more.

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. With his next made field goal, Stephen

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Speaker 1: Houshka will move into a tie for fiftieth on the

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01:59:44,680 --> 01:59:47,360
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01:59:47,360 --> 01:59:51,440
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Speaker 1: We're back with more, John Murphy, Steve Tasker, One Bills

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Speaker 1: Live from One Goals Drive on Buffalo Bills radio show.

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02:00:13,040 --> 02:00:15,200
Speaker 1: We call One Bill's Live. We come from One Bill's Drive.

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02:00:15,200 --> 02:00:17,440
Speaker 1: We've got a show tomorrow again, twelve noon to three.

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02:00:17,840 --> 02:00:21,520
Speaker 1: UM just took a lot that we had. Torrential down

2437
02:00:21,880 --> 02:00:24,440
Speaker 1: is going on. It's sunny. It looks beautiful out there,

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02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:26,320
Speaker 1: very breezy, though I think the forecast calls for a

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02:00:26,400 --> 02:00:30,680
Speaker 1: lot of breeze. I've looked at a metal ends of

2440
02:00:30,800 --> 02:00:33,320
Speaker 1: forecast yet because quite frankly, I don't care yet what

2441
02:00:33,440 --> 02:00:36,040
Speaker 1: the weather's gonna be Sunday. You're gonna be inside anyway,

2442
02:00:36,040 --> 02:00:40,240
Speaker 1: Who are you kidding? Yeah, the windows open underneath in

2443
02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:43,960
Speaker 1: a room, in a three sided room with a ceiling

2444
02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:47,240
Speaker 1: and a floor. You're not outside, Whiney sideline reporter. Right now,

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Speaker 1: Whiney might be overstating, complaining, Yes, where are you going

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02:00:52,160 --> 02:00:53,840
Speaker 1: this weekend? What do you got this weekend? Where are

2447
02:00:53,840 --> 02:00:56,880
Speaker 1: you going? Wait for it, h green Bay? Okay, Well,

2448
02:00:56,880 --> 02:01:01,560
Speaker 1: I've got the Miami Dolphins against Aaron Rodgers and the

2449
02:01:01,640 --> 02:01:05,920
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers and the frozen Tundris exactly. I think

2450
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:09,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna be um, it's yeah, it's gonna be a

2451
02:01:09,960 --> 02:01:13,080
Speaker 1: Packer blowout. But I don't know. I don't know yet.

2452
02:01:13,200 --> 02:01:16,480
Speaker 1: I haven't really done much but a surface on the surface.

2453
02:01:16,520 --> 02:01:18,640
Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers and that cruise going to bounce

2454
02:01:18,720 --> 02:01:21,320
Speaker 1: back from a road loss in New England and try

2455
02:01:21,360 --> 02:01:25,200
Speaker 1: and get back into the race. I mean that's at home.

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02:01:25,480 --> 02:01:28,480
Speaker 1: Green Bay's hard place. Hopefully they don't throw me out

2457
02:01:28,520 --> 02:01:30,560
Speaker 1: early in the game. It's the best team in the

2458
02:01:30,760 --> 02:01:35,560
Speaker 1: NFC North. I don't know. I asked because I don't know.

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02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:38,600
Speaker 1: I saw the Bears Sunday I was not overly impressed.

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02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:41,800
Speaker 1: Ills are pretty good, let me finish. I was not

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02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:44,280
Speaker 1: overly impressed with the Bears. I saw the Vikings back

2462
02:01:44,320 --> 02:01:47,040
Speaker 1: in September. I think they played better since the Bills

2463
02:01:47,160 --> 02:01:50,200
Speaker 1: caught him in September. The Packers played well against the Bills.

2464
02:01:50,280 --> 02:01:52,200
Speaker 1: But you see him against the you know, the elite

2465
02:01:52,240 --> 02:01:55,360
Speaker 1: teams like New England, and you're like, huh, And I

2466
02:01:55,400 --> 02:01:57,280
Speaker 1: don't think Detroit is that good at all. So I

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02:01:57,320 --> 02:01:59,800
Speaker 1: don't know who I would pick is the best team

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02:01:59,840 --> 02:02:01,400
Speaker 1: in the division. Do you have any thoughts on That's

2469
02:02:01,400 --> 02:02:03,960
Speaker 1: a good point. You take Aaron Rodgers out of that

2470
02:02:04,040 --> 02:02:07,680
Speaker 1: division and there's nobody that scared you right now. The

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02:02:07,840 --> 02:02:11,720
Speaker 1: path the Vikings, I mean, are interesting because they were

2472
02:02:11,760 --> 02:02:14,680
Speaker 1: everybody's favorite, right I mean, they were everybody's you know,

2473
02:02:14,720 --> 02:02:16,720
Speaker 1: they're gonna go, they're gonna do some stuff, you know,

2474
02:02:16,840 --> 02:02:19,280
Speaker 1: And now you know that, here's the Vikings sitting there.

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02:02:19,800 --> 02:02:23,640
Speaker 1: You know, they're they're five and three with Chicago, and

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02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:26,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't that impressed with Chicago or you know, or Minnesota,

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02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:28,600
Speaker 1: but you know, there they are. They're five and three,

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02:02:28,680 --> 02:02:32,680
Speaker 1: both of them. The Minnesota's five three and one. But

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02:02:33,040 --> 02:02:35,320
Speaker 1: you know, Green Bay three and four Detroit three and five.

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Speaker 1: That's a I have always thought that was the weakest

2481
02:02:39,320 --> 02:02:42,280
Speaker 1: division in football, and it was. You know, you got

2482
02:02:42,320 --> 02:02:46,160
Speaker 1: Brett Farve and Aaron Rodgers. Now who I think people

2483
02:02:46,160 --> 02:02:47,680
Speaker 1: have been at the top of it for a long time.

2484
02:02:47,800 --> 02:02:49,280
Speaker 1: Going into the year, people might have told you that

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02:02:49,360 --> 02:02:52,320
Speaker 1: was the best division in football. I don't know. Well,

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02:02:52,440 --> 02:02:54,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you got two five and three teams. It's

2487
02:02:54,360 --> 02:02:57,200
Speaker 1: pretty good. Washington's leading the East at five and three.

2488
02:02:58,240 --> 02:03:00,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone there any Carolina and New

2489
02:03:00,920 --> 02:03:02,800
Speaker 1: Orleans are sitting there at six and two, seven and one.

2490
02:03:02,880 --> 02:03:05,320
Speaker 1: That's that may be it right there, the best division.

2491
02:03:05,400 --> 02:03:08,120
Speaker 1: But Bears come to Buffalo get total of one hundred

2492
02:03:08,200 --> 02:03:11,720
Speaker 1: ninety yards out gained by seventy four yards. They don't

2493
02:03:11,800 --> 02:03:14,160
Speaker 1: run it that well, they don't throw it that well,

2494
02:03:14,640 --> 02:03:20,640
Speaker 1: and they win forty one to nine turnovers. Man, that's terrible.

2495
02:03:20,720 --> 02:03:23,440
Speaker 1: That is bad. Hey, what do you think Buffalo's offense

2496
02:03:23,480 --> 02:03:25,080
Speaker 1: next year? We got phone lines wide open if you

2497
02:03:25,120 --> 02:03:27,040
Speaker 1: want to weigh in on this. Who do you think

2498
02:03:27,520 --> 02:03:29,920
Speaker 1: on the Buffalo offense they can build around? They give

2499
02:03:29,960 --> 02:03:32,840
Speaker 1: us three players maybe aside from Josh Allen next year,

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02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:35,200
Speaker 1: three players on offensive bills could build around next year.

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Speaker 1: Give us a call. The phone lines wide open eight

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Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty and total three one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Here's a call,

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Speaker 1: David Lake. You hello, Dave, go ahead, you're on the air.

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Speaker 1: All right, John, I just had a quick question for you.

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Speaker 1: I heard you're talking about the NFC. I just wanted

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Speaker 1: to get your opinion now that the Saints have knocked

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Speaker 1: off the Rams in New Orleans this last Sunday, what

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02:03:57,480 --> 02:03:59,680
Speaker 1: you're feeling on the best team in the NFC, the

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02:03:59,720 --> 02:04:01,920
Speaker 1: best front runner for the Super Bowl at this point.

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Speaker 1: My pick would be the Saints, and especially if they're home,

2512
02:04:04,960 --> 02:04:07,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna be impossible to beat. I would think at

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02:04:07,560 --> 02:04:10,480
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl at the Superdome, Rams right there alongside

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Speaker 1: of them. But the Saints, I believe are playing better

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Speaker 1: than anybody right now. My dark horse to win the

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02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:19,640
Speaker 1: NFC would aside from the you know, the obvious ones

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02:04:19,640 --> 02:04:21,960
Speaker 1: are the Rams and the Saints. You know who I

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02:04:22,080 --> 02:04:24,480
Speaker 1: think is really gonna jump up and get them, Oh

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02:04:25,320 --> 02:04:29,520
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. Yeah, they're playing well. Panthers are playing well,

2520
02:04:29,920 --> 02:04:35,440
Speaker 1: and they've got a guy taking snaps that's playing well. Yeah,

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02:04:35,440 --> 02:04:38,080
Speaker 1: he's playing as good as he's ever played. I agree

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Speaker 1: with you, though, I mean the Saints and the Rams

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02:04:39,800 --> 02:04:41,480
Speaker 1: are the teams that are looking like, wow, those guys,

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02:04:41,520 --> 02:04:43,280
Speaker 1: those teams are really playing well. Those are the ones

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02:04:43,320 --> 02:04:48,080
Speaker 1: the front runners. But listen, there's eight weeks left in

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Speaker 1: the season, and that is an eternity to keep playing really,

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Speaker 1: really well. Now. My hats off to the Rams, to

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02:04:54,480 --> 02:04:56,880
Speaker 1: the Saints, and to the Kansas City Chiefs for for

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02:04:57,040 --> 02:04:59,120
Speaker 1: doing it as well as they have that. Don't forget

2530
02:04:59,160 --> 02:05:01,400
Speaker 1: though the Chiefs six and oh last year two to

2531
02:05:01,480 --> 02:05:03,960
Speaker 1: start the season. They didn't get to the super Bowl.

2532
02:05:04,520 --> 02:05:07,920
Speaker 1: And it's hard to keep playing at that high level

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02:05:08,040 --> 02:05:11,160
Speaker 1: for a long time. And the Rams and the Saints,

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02:05:11,200 --> 02:05:13,120
Speaker 1: I think that's what they're up against right now. The

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02:05:13,240 --> 02:05:17,240
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers are flying under the radar. They're they're playing

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02:05:17,280 --> 02:05:20,120
Speaker 1: extremely well. I think that's a team that could be

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02:05:20,280 --> 02:05:23,640
Speaker 1: the one that jumps up into the fray later on

2538
02:05:23,760 --> 02:05:27,120
Speaker 1: in the season, gets hot, even plays even better, or

2539
02:05:27,720 --> 02:05:30,000
Speaker 1: even on the road, could go into one of those

2540
02:05:30,080 --> 02:05:33,800
Speaker 1: teams and win. That gets us right into NFL. True

2541
02:05:33,840 --> 02:05:36,400
Speaker 1: and False brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's

2542
02:05:36,440 --> 02:05:38,120
Speaker 1: artists Cheese right at the top of the list. Two

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02:05:38,200 --> 02:05:41,600
Speaker 1: or false, Steve. The Saints are now the NFL's team

2544
02:05:41,680 --> 02:05:45,120
Speaker 1: to be true false I think right now, yes, true.

2545
02:05:45,200 --> 02:05:47,400
Speaker 1: Does it stay that way through the remaining seven weeks?

2546
02:05:47,640 --> 02:05:49,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know. They lost to Tampa Bay

2547
02:05:49,920 --> 02:05:52,320
Speaker 1: on the kickoff Sunday forty eight to forty. They've won

2548
02:05:52,400 --> 02:05:54,560
Speaker 1: seven in a row since then. They've got thirty nine

2549
02:05:54,640 --> 02:05:58,200
Speaker 1: year old quarterback Drew Brees. Drew Brees playing great. Right now.

2550
02:05:58,960 --> 02:06:00,800
Speaker 1: The Saints, I think right now, are the best team

2551
02:06:00,840 --> 02:06:02,440
Speaker 1: in the NFL, the team to beat in the NFL.

2552
02:06:02,600 --> 02:06:04,200
Speaker 1: But I'm not saying it stays that way through the

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02:06:04,320 --> 02:06:06,000
Speaker 1: end of December. We'll see. What do you think? I

2554
02:06:06,120 --> 02:06:08,240
Speaker 1: agree they are the best team in the NFL right now.

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02:06:08,440 --> 02:06:10,240
Speaker 1: I'd like to see a game. I mean, I'd like

2556
02:06:10,240 --> 02:06:12,280
Speaker 1: to see a game between the Saints and the Chiefs.

2557
02:06:12,680 --> 02:06:14,560
Speaker 1: I think that would be a great game. The Chiefs

2558
02:06:14,600 --> 02:06:16,320
Speaker 1: are playing at a high level as well. The playing

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02:06:16,560 --> 02:06:20,800
Speaker 1: with extreme confidence, as are the Saints, and the Rams

2560
02:06:20,840 --> 02:06:23,160
Speaker 1: are too. Don't kid yourself. The Rams came back from

2561
02:06:23,200 --> 02:06:26,480
Speaker 1: twenty one down or more than that down and tied

2562
02:06:26,560 --> 02:06:28,400
Speaker 1: that game up. I think it were down thirty one

2563
02:06:28,840 --> 02:06:32,760
Speaker 1: to fourteen and came back and tied that game up

2564
02:06:32,840 --> 02:06:35,480
Speaker 1: at thirty five or thirty four, thirty four at one point.

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02:06:35,880 --> 02:06:38,320
Speaker 1: That was a great game. So all three of those

2566
02:06:38,360 --> 02:06:40,280
Speaker 1: teams are there. But yeah, right now the Saints are.

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02:06:41,280 --> 02:06:42,760
Speaker 1: You know, they're hard to beat, and I think they

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02:06:42,760 --> 02:06:45,280
Speaker 1: are the best team, all right, Part two NFL True

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02:06:45,320 --> 02:06:47,840
Speaker 1: and false. This deals with the Sunday night game. The

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Speaker 1: USA Today writes that the Green Bay Packers are in

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02:06:51,240 --> 02:06:53,880
Speaker 1: real trouble of making any playoff push at all. They

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02:06:53,960 --> 02:06:57,880
Speaker 1: missed an opportunity Patriots without Rob Gronkowski, without Sony Michelle,

2573
02:06:58,120 --> 02:07:01,400
Speaker 1: and still the Patriots beat beat the Packers and beat

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02:07:01,440 --> 02:07:04,360
Speaker 1: them quite handily on Sunday Night. The Packers in trouble

2575
02:07:04,400 --> 02:07:08,080
Speaker 1: of not making a playoff push. True false. I gotta

2576
02:07:08,120 --> 02:07:09,920
Speaker 1: say true, Steve, I don't know. I mean you look

2577
02:07:09,960 --> 02:07:11,960
Speaker 1: at them and you watch them, and you know, it's

2578
02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:13,720
Speaker 1: like the parts don't scare you when you watch the

2579
02:07:13,800 --> 02:07:16,760
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. Rogers is great other than him, who's

2580
02:07:16,800 --> 02:07:20,200
Speaker 1: great on that team. Yeah, I agree, they're bad without

2581
02:07:20,240 --> 02:07:23,240
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. And you know, a quarterback can do a lot.

2582
02:07:23,400 --> 02:07:26,240
Speaker 1: I mean he has he's and he's doing a bunch.

2583
02:07:27,320 --> 02:07:29,960
Speaker 1: But without him, that is a bad football team. We

2584
02:07:30,040 --> 02:07:32,120
Speaker 1: saw it last year and there's a chance we could

2585
02:07:32,120 --> 02:07:34,360
Speaker 1: see it this year. I don't wish anything bad on anybody,

2586
02:07:34,400 --> 02:07:36,200
Speaker 1: but I don't think one guy like that is going

2587
02:07:36,240 --> 02:07:37,440
Speaker 1: to be able to do it. You look what happened

2588
02:07:37,480 --> 02:07:39,840
Speaker 1: in the AFC game they played on Monday night against

2589
02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:43,480
Speaker 1: the Patriots. They were outmatched, and I think the rest

2590
02:07:43,520 --> 02:07:45,720
Speaker 1: of that roster cannot live up to Aaron Rodgers and

2591
02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:47,280
Speaker 1: what he can do. Now, you can do a ton,

2592
02:07:47,480 --> 02:07:50,240
Speaker 1: but you're right, Murv. I don't think they don't scare

2593
02:07:50,320 --> 02:07:53,680
Speaker 1: me as this playoff team in the NFC crazy. Hey,

2594
02:07:53,840 --> 02:07:55,720
Speaker 1: we spent some time thank that's the NFL True and

2595
02:07:55,760 --> 02:07:57,880
Speaker 1: False I brought to you by the Yankees, Fancy New

2596
02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:00,280
Speaker 1: York's artists in chiefs. We spent some time yesterday getting

2597
02:08:00,320 --> 02:08:04,120
Speaker 1: some of those touchdowns celebration. Kevin Byard of the Tennessee

2598
02:08:04,200 --> 02:08:08,280
Speaker 1: Titans did something last night in Dallas on Monday Night football.

2599
02:08:09,080 --> 02:08:11,760
Speaker 1: He scored a touchdown and then he kind of channeled TiO.

2600
02:08:12,120 --> 02:08:15,360
Speaker 1: He went right to the star at midfield at the

2601
02:08:15,440 --> 02:08:18,440
Speaker 1: stadium in Dallas and celebrated. There drives them nuts and

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02:08:18,520 --> 02:08:20,920
Speaker 1: Dallas when people do that right. TiO did it when

2603
02:08:20,960 --> 02:08:25,760
Speaker 1: he was with the Niners. Right catches a touchdown pass, touchdowns, interception, interception. Yeah,

2604
02:08:25,800 --> 02:08:29,000
Speaker 1: my bad, runs right out to midfield and celebrates out there.

2605
02:08:29,720 --> 02:08:31,960
Speaker 1: He had this to say about his celebration and about

2606
02:08:32,040 --> 02:08:35,800
Speaker 1: his interception in the end zone, or he didn't, I

2607
02:08:35,840 --> 02:08:38,920
Speaker 1: guess we don't have that sound. Oh here we go,

2608
02:08:39,120 --> 02:08:41,440
Speaker 1: now we got it. I'm gonna talk about the play first.

2609
02:08:41,480 --> 02:08:42,720
Speaker 1: I want to give a shout at the logan Ryan

2610
02:08:42,720 --> 02:08:44,360
Speaker 1: because he actually made a great play on that one

2611
02:08:44,560 --> 02:08:46,520
Speaker 1: by undercutting the route, was making Dank throw it up

2612
02:08:46,560 --> 02:08:48,280
Speaker 1: in the air, which made me make a play. And

2613
02:08:48,360 --> 02:08:49,840
Speaker 1: it was just something that I had just thought about

2614
02:08:50,680 --> 02:08:52,840
Speaker 1: kind of at the hotel, just thinking about Monday night

2615
02:08:52,920 --> 02:08:54,680
Speaker 1: in Dallas, thinking what can I do if I make

2616
02:08:54,720 --> 02:08:57,040
Speaker 1: a play? And it just really just a show, you know,

2617
02:08:57,200 --> 02:08:58,600
Speaker 1: the team that you know, we're not scared, you know,

2618
02:08:58,640 --> 02:08:59,960
Speaker 1: we're here to the play ball with, here to play,

2619
02:09:00,040 --> 02:09:01,600
Speaker 1: here to win the game. And I made the play

2620
02:09:01,600 --> 02:09:03,080
Speaker 1: and I ran straight to the fifty yard line. That's

2621
02:09:03,200 --> 02:09:04,760
Speaker 1: you know, that's it's kind of kind of off the

2622
02:09:04,760 --> 02:09:08,160
Speaker 1: wall a little bit. You remember you with Oh yeah,

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02:09:08,240 --> 02:09:09,840
Speaker 1: most definitely, And exactly that's what I thought about. I was,

2624
02:09:09,840 --> 02:09:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go straight to the fity. I'm gonna him

2625
02:09:11,520 --> 02:09:14,760
Speaker 1: that were here to play ball, tweeted out, how we've

2626
02:09:14,800 --> 02:09:17,280
Speaker 1: seen this before. Yeah, I haven't seen it yet. I

2627
02:09:17,320 --> 02:09:18,640
Speaker 1: haven't seen you. I haven't went to my phone light

2628
02:09:18,760 --> 02:09:20,280
Speaker 1: to look at Twitter and started that. But not that's great.

2629
02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:23,240
Speaker 1: It's it's to go right there. Ceo here yo. Kevin

2630
02:09:23,320 --> 02:09:27,280
Speaker 1: Byer channeling to the Hall of Famer Tera Lowens inspiring

2631
02:09:27,400 --> 02:09:30,760
Speaker 1: players all these many years later. We're gonna break time. Yeah,

2632
02:09:30,920 --> 02:09:33,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna break. We'll come at TiO had a tweet

2633
02:09:33,760 --> 02:09:36,000
Speaker 1: about it. I feel like I've seen this before. We're break.

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Speaker 1: We're back with more. One goes live from one of

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Speaker 1: Goals Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. What do we learn

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Speaker 1: provider of the Buffalo Bills. Jim Kubiak joined us earlier today.

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Speaker 1: Former Naval Academy quarterback who runs a Western York Quarterback Academy,

2641
02:10:14,240 --> 02:10:17,600
Speaker 1: talked about Nathan Peterman and his performance. Against the Chicago Bears.

2642
02:10:19,520 --> 02:10:23,680
Speaker 1: I think sometimes when you have ugly losses, or there's momentum,

2643
02:10:23,840 --> 02:10:27,680
Speaker 1: or there's derogatory statements that are said, you know, across

2644
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Speaker 1: the area, you kind of get blinded by, you know,

2645
02:10:31,920 --> 02:10:34,400
Speaker 1: what's really happening. And if you go and look at

2646
02:10:34,720 --> 02:10:38,000
Speaker 1: that game film, those eighty one plays and asked himself, hey,

2647
02:10:38,520 --> 02:10:42,120
Speaker 1: did Nathan Peterman do his job in each of those plays,

2648
02:10:42,560 --> 02:10:47,880
Speaker 1: I think you'd come out with an overwhelming yas it's

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02:10:47,960 --> 02:10:49,800
Speaker 1: worth reading. If you have in Jim Kubiak in the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo News and his weekly quarterback review for the Bills,

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Speaker 1: definitely worth ticket book. You want to talk about a

2652
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Speaker 1: different take than what we've been experiencing on the show,

2653
02:10:57,560 --> 02:11:00,440
Speaker 1: that's a different that was different. Also on the show today,

2654
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Speaker 1: Peter King from Pro Football Talk and NBC Sports talked

2655
02:11:03,720 --> 02:11:05,960
Speaker 1: about the evolution of offense in the NFL and where

2656
02:11:06,000 --> 02:11:10,600
Speaker 1: it might be headed. Here's Peter King. Every era in

2657
02:11:10,760 --> 02:11:15,760
Speaker 1: football eventually has changed, you know, so I think right now,

2658
02:11:15,920 --> 02:11:18,839
Speaker 1: the way that's most fun, the way that's most exciting

2659
02:11:19,400 --> 02:11:23,640
Speaker 1: is kind of the Rams slash Saints way to play

2660
02:11:23,960 --> 02:11:27,640
Speaker 1: Chiefs all that stuff. But that doesn't mean it's forever

2661
02:11:27,800 --> 02:11:32,200
Speaker 1: because if you play, especially if you play the RPO

2662
02:11:32,400 --> 02:11:36,080
Speaker 1: style where your quarterback is judging whether to hand the

2663
02:11:36,120 --> 02:11:39,440
Speaker 1: ball offer whether to hang on to it. Eventually a

2664
02:11:39,520 --> 02:11:41,800
Speaker 1: couple of those guys are going to get hurt playing

2665
02:11:41,880 --> 02:11:44,440
Speaker 1: that way. And so I think, I think you have

2666
02:11:44,640 --> 02:11:48,120
Speaker 1: to look at every situation and you have to say,

2667
02:11:48,200 --> 02:11:53,080
Speaker 1: nothing is forever with football. Nothing is forever with football.

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Speaker 1: I'm sad. What kind of gives us a glimmer of

2669
02:11:57,040 --> 02:11:59,440
Speaker 1: hope too? And you know, I mean you think about

2670
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Speaker 1: not forever. This is not forever. Hey, we got to

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Speaker 1: Buffalo area, they had Pro. The ad Pro Hight School

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Speaker 1: congratulations to them. Tomorrow, Steve, we got Bills players back

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Speaker 1: in the room in the building, and we should have

2686
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Speaker 1: some hopefully. Some guests are we're gonna get a hit

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Speaker 1: from Brownie at practice. Maybe from Brownie at practice tomorrow

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Speaker 1: coming up as well. Yeah, good stuff. I like that.

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Speaker 1: It'd be too fun, all right, back into it another game.

2690
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Speaker 1: You may have checked out the Bill staff that they

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02:12:56,640 --> 02:12:59,840
Speaker 1: can't they got seven and you know, Josh Allen's on

2692
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Speaker 1: the horizon, and big debate as to whether how healthy

2693
02:13:02,160 --> 02:13:03,840
Speaker 1: he's got to be to get back in the in

2694
02:13:03,920 --> 02:13:06,200
Speaker 1: the game. Murph says one hundred percent. I say, if

2695
02:13:06,240 --> 02:13:09,360
Speaker 1: he can play, he can play. Um, we'll see. I'd

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02:13:09,400 --> 02:13:12,480
Speaker 1: say undred percent plus. I want to chance it. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to chance it with him. If he's ready,

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02:13:14,280 --> 02:13:17,120
Speaker 1: he can play, but can have him six weeks off.

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Speaker 1: If you can take six weeks off and be sure

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Speaker 1: that he's ready, I would I would think hard about that.

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Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see, we'll find out a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully find out a little bit more about that tomorrow.

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