Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros MLB. This is the
Speaker 1: Fantasy Baseball Podcast. It is me, Joey p joep Zapia.
Speaker 1: With me is the Welsh and today we're gonna be
Speaker 1: doing something really fun. We're looking at the top ten
Speaker 1: must have prospects for your teams at twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: And Welsh is a bit of a prospect guru himself.
Speaker 1: You can check out all his prospect write ups in
Speaker 1: the Black Book. But we decided to go a little
Speaker 1: bit deeper on the show today. That's right, bringing a
Speaker 1: real professional not like well, we got Jeff Ponce from
Speaker 1: Baseball America joining us today. Jeff, we are so excited
Speaker 1: to have you on the program talking prospects and trying
Speaker 1: to find out some players are gonna be helpful to
Speaker 1: us in twenty twenty five. I know you guys are
Speaker 1: a little bit more towards the dynasty long term prospect stuff,
Speaker 1: but we appreciate you changing gears a little bit with
Speaker 1: us today joining us on the program. Make sure you
Speaker 1: follow him at Jeff Ponce po NTSBA and Baseball America
Speaker 1: has got a lot of fun stuff going on. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about that, and let's talk about you getting excited
Speaker 1: for spring training and baseball starting.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely want to just thank you guys for for having
Speaker 3: me on the show. I've played in leagues with with
Speaker 3: Joe over the years, played in tel Wars with you
Speaker 3: for a couple of years when.
Speaker 2: I was still in the Heads Ahead.
Speaker 3: Now I moved to an online draft so I don't
Speaker 3: have to travel to New York drop like a g.
Speaker 2: You know I would.
Speaker 3: It was like the most expensive, like three days of
Speaker 3: like my my calendar year. But because of spring training
Speaker 3: and the way my calendar is, the weekend that they're
Speaker 3: there when the Spring breakout games happened and I got
Speaker 3: to be down and then Florida for the Spring breakout games,
Speaker 3: are going to be with a good friend of Welsh,
Speaker 3: a mutual friend of ours, friend Dan.
Speaker 4: I was invited to this just like a content house.
Speaker 4: By the way, it's a prospect. There's a prospect content house.
Speaker 4: It's it's like a mansion.
Speaker 1: It was the worst reality show, No, I'm reality show
Speaker 1: you've ever seen.
Speaker 4: Oh, it would just all be sitting there talking about
Speaker 4: We're like, well, Travis Bozano is.
Speaker 1: Like seventy on this point.
Speaker 4: I a pretty sure, but it's like it's like a mansion
Speaker 4: that doesn't belong to us. But yeah, no, you've been.
Speaker 4: You're killing it, Jeff, and we've we've you know, you
Speaker 4: and I go back a long time, and I know
Speaker 4: we're not as handsome as like, it's not like you know,
Speaker 4: Scott Broun and Krantz and stuff and everything like that.
Speaker 4: You've been on foul terrace.
Speaker 1: For yourself, Welsh. I'm a handsome a right.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, Bron's got me covered. But if people don't know. Also,
Speaker 4: you know, you've been doing your great work at Baseball
Speaker 4: America but also been on foul territory, which has been
Speaker 4: pretty great for you as well.
Speaker 2: Jeff. Yeah, right, we're gonna last.
Speaker 1: We're gonna start here with the obvious guy at the
Speaker 1: top of the list. So spoiler alert, everybody. Roki Sazaki
Speaker 1: from the Dodgers is gonna be the first guy we
Speaker 1: talked about. There will be some more, let's say, legitimate
Speaker 1: ish prospects we're gonna really break down, but we gotta
Speaker 1: start with Rokye Sazaki because he is a Dodger, much
Speaker 1: less a grin of pretty much everybody in baseball at
Speaker 1: this stage, and he is a guy that certainly has
Speaker 1: a lot of upside. Last year ten and five of
Speaker 1: two three five ERA, over one hundred eleven innings in
Speaker 1: the Japanese League, one hundred and twenty nine strikeouts, thirty
Speaker 1: two walks. This is a player that the upside at
Speaker 1: just twenty three years of age is going to be huge.
Speaker 1: And now because he's a Dodger. That's my biggest fear too,
Speaker 1: is the the inflation rate. And again that's a that's
Speaker 1: a really tricky word here when you're talking about the Dodgers,
Speaker 1: but the inflation rate of Roki now being a Dodger,
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was gonna push him up draft for us.
Speaker 1: But the question is how much of a turn can
Speaker 1: he be in your opinion as a prospect getting thrust
Speaker 1: into that rotation. The change in terms of, you know,
Speaker 1: what it is to pitch every fifth day for the
Speaker 1: amount of days he's going to have to pitch as
Speaker 1: opposed to in Japan the amount of innings you gonna
Speaker 1: have to go. You saw Yamamoto misstarts in the beginning
Speaker 1: of last year have a rocky beginning to the season.
Speaker 1: So what does the Roki Sazaki twenty twenty five look
Speaker 1: like for you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think, you know, we can look at
Speaker 3: the Dodgers' rotation now and probably assume with Otani backthrowing,
Speaker 3: though he's not going to throw in that first series,
Speaker 3: they're probably going to go to like a six man rotation.
Speaker 2: So I think he's probably going to be on somewhat.
Speaker 3: Of like a college Japanese sort of style schedule, will
Speaker 3: probably only pitch once a week, which obviously does have
Speaker 3: its limitations in fantasy. You know, if you're in head
Speaker 3: to head points leagues like I am, getting that two step,
Speaker 3: you know is really a huge difference maker. You want
Speaker 3: to have as many two start pitchers as you possibly
Speaker 3: can every week in my league at least, and.
Speaker 2: It makes a huge difference.
Speaker 3: So I think that's one area that you can probably
Speaker 3: immediately point to and say, all right, like, his innings
Speaker 3: are probably going to be a little bit more limited
Speaker 3: than the other guys that he might be priced around.
Speaker 3: I think for redraft, I could see him potentially being overpriced.
Speaker 3: I think when you're buying more in a dynasty setting,
Speaker 3: you're looking at the long term investment. You're looking at, Hey,
Speaker 3: what's this guy going to be in four or five
Speaker 3: six years? What he is as a trade asset. It's
Speaker 3: just sort of a different approach in terms of how
Speaker 3: you make that valuation. Now, in terms of the guy
Speaker 3: that's going to come over, I think it's very similar
Speaker 3: just from like a nuts and bolts perspective to the
Speaker 3: picture that shoe hey Otani was when he first came
Speaker 3: over in twenty seventeen. What do I mean by that
Speaker 3: hard forcing fastball probably has some spin efficiency issues in
Speaker 3: terms of like, he's not a huge ride guy. A
Speaker 3: lot of his six sas and his bat missing ability
Speaker 3: with that is because he sits in the upper registers.
Speaker 3: When Roki Sasaki is right. You know, last year his
Speaker 3: velocity he had ticked down a little bit. But when
Speaker 3: this guy is right, like he had been in twenty
Speaker 3: two when he was set in the world on fire
Speaker 3: and had those back to back near perfect games, he
Speaker 3: was sitting ninety nine to one hundred and one miles
Speaker 3: per hour on his four seen fastballs. He was really
Speaker 3: blowing it by guys, we know that velocity at that
Speaker 3: level really buys you, you know, a lot of leeway
Speaker 3: in terms of where you locate, in terms of how
Speaker 3: it moves. You know, he's not a guy who has
Speaker 3: great feel for spin. I would call out that as
Speaker 3: probably the biggest question mark I have is does he
Speaker 3: have a major league quality breaking ball. He's spinning his
Speaker 3: slider somewhere around two thousand RPMs, which is really, really low.
Speaker 3: I assume that's something that the Dodgers are probably going
Speaker 3: to put some work into. They're going to try to
Speaker 3: figure out. As this was part of the homework assignment
Speaker 3: for teams at sigin Roki figure out why his velocity
Speaker 3: dropped and how he can get back there. He understands
Speaker 3: that when he throws his breaking ball hard, when he
Speaker 3: throws his we're seeing basketball hard.
Speaker 2: Everything plays off of that.
Speaker 3: He does have a world class splitter, and we've seen
Speaker 3: how splitters are.
Speaker 2: Playing at the major league level right now.
Speaker 3: I would say the biggest difference between the player that
Speaker 3: I thought Paul Skeins was when he was drafted and
Speaker 3: the guy that we got in the major leagues was
Speaker 3: that splinker. When he added that pitch, he added an
Speaker 3: eighty sort of off speed breaking ball, which is so unique.
Speaker 3: Roki has that kind of It's almost like a cut
Speaker 3: splitter in terms of how it moves.
Speaker 2: It can move glove side, it can move onside.
Speaker 3: So there's some sort of like almost like the ghost
Speaker 3: split with Senga that you sort of can't predict where
Speaker 3: it's going to land, which really puts a lot of
Speaker 3: pressure on batters. So I think, like you look at
Speaker 3: him and you're like, he's this great off speed pitch.
Speaker 2: He's got velocity.
Speaker 3: He has an organization behind him that can probably get
Speaker 3: him to sort of rip off a harder, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe more dynamic breaking ball that's really sort of the
Speaker 3: low hanging fruit. He is a bit more of a
Speaker 3: project than Yamamoto was. Yamamoto was, you know, a three
Speaker 3: time more or less cy young winner over there in
Speaker 3: terms of what the equivalency is for that award.
Speaker 1: What a smaller frame, right, you're talking about Roki Sazaki,
Speaker 1: guy who six's two, you know, as oppos Yamamoto. I
Speaker 1: think the size that was a big question about him
Speaker 1: coming to the MLP.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think the thing with Yamamoto is, you know,
Speaker 3: he does some things that are kind of unusual from
Speaker 3: the sense that you know, he can sort of pronate
Speaker 3: on the four seam and ride it a little bit,
Speaker 3: but he can also really get the RPMs up on
Speaker 3: that breaking ball and you know, we've moved away from
Speaker 3: like just raw spin, but when you're evaluating a guy
Speaker 3: at like a base level of what does this guy
Speaker 3: have the capacity to become, looking at that ability to
Speaker 3: generate spin is sort of like a natural ability that
Speaker 3: you can then sort of develop into other pitch.
Speaker 2: Shapes I think.
Speaker 3: I mean it's something that I think, like two years
Speaker 3: down the road, we may look at it and say
Speaker 3: he's throwing an eighty seven mile per hour sweeper like
Speaker 3: Otani ad it right, Like, there are some things that
Speaker 3: this guy can do to sort of develop his pitch.
Speaker 2: Mix a little bit more.
Speaker 3: I think what Japanese development, particularly on the pitching side,
Speaker 3: does really well is they developed guys that compete in
Speaker 3: the zone, strike throwers, really good movers, and like fluid mechanics.
Speaker 3: They're not as deep into the pitch sort of development
Speaker 3: game as we are over here. And I think we've
Speaker 3: seen this with a lot of these Japanese pitchers that
Speaker 3: come over is that with the right sort of coaching,
Speaker 3: they can add sort of that next gear. They can
Speaker 3: add a sinker and sort of different pitches that they
Speaker 3: didn't need to have in Japan sort of navigate these
Speaker 3: tougher lineups, because you know, the top end of Japanese
Speaker 3: players I think is pretty comparable at this point to
Speaker 3: the top end of American players. But when you start
Speaker 3: to look at the depth of each of those rosters,
Speaker 3: that's what the signature difference is.
Speaker 4: And you know, I'll throw in just real quick because
Speaker 4: you did the big breakdown which was super important about
Speaker 4: Roki Suzaki. But I think, in my take here is
Speaker 4: the number one guy. Like this is clear that some
Speaker 4: people wuld argue even in the prospect game, if you're
Speaker 4: looking long term, he would be the number one guy.
Speaker 4: A lot of it is built around proximity and the stuff.
Speaker 4: But when you come back to redraft, yes he's the
Speaker 4: number one guy. He's gonna be the number one guy
Speaker 4: by virtue of ADPs. But my problem was is exactly
Speaker 4: the word you said. You said project, and I still
Speaker 4: believe there might be some project in there. He lost
Speaker 4: a couple miles per hour from the WBC into last year.
Speaker 4: The sliders you mentioned is a little bit questionable. They've
Speaker 4: got a gajillion arms. Kershaka had still come out from
Speaker 4: the clouds here, and the benefit of what they're going
Speaker 4: to want and when to throw him out is in question,
Speaker 4: so I've been throwing out I'm not even sure there's
Speaker 4: a guarantee until they tell us that he is in
Speaker 4: the rotation to start the year. I don't think it
Speaker 4: would be out of character for them to say, we
Speaker 4: got some stuff we want to work on to get
Speaker 4: him right. I'm not saying that's a guarantee, but I'm
Speaker 4: not as interested in the adp current ADPs of a
Speaker 4: guy like Roki Sazaki with some things that I think
Speaker 4: still need to kind of adjust. It's the best organization.
Speaker 4: But last thing I'll throw out here is what we
Speaker 4: are learning, which I do think is important for people,
Speaker 4: is the old school two hundred innings and eighty innings
Speaker 4: and stuff. That's just the markers move down, Like you
Speaker 4: can get a SP three out of a guy that
Speaker 4: has one hundred and twenty or one hundred and thirty
Speaker 4: innings this year, and that's where Rookie is projected in
Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty one hundred and thirty range on
Speaker 4: a six man rotation. All of that's great, but if
Speaker 4: his cost was outside the top forty, I'd be in.
Speaker 4: It's not. It's inside the top thirty. So I'm a
Speaker 4: little bit thirty six.
Speaker 1: It's thirty six, and the names around there, Hunter Brown,
Speaker 1: Spencer Schwellenbach, Joe Ryan, Carls Rodan, even a guy that
Speaker 1: you know. Sometimes I'm vere iffy on I think I
Speaker 1: would rather have Carlos Rodon just for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: But if you're in keeper league's obviously a very different scenario.
Speaker 1: But in just redraft alone, thirty six is aggressive.
Speaker 4: December January eighty piece. By the way, on NFBC, I
Speaker 4: think Szaki was going inside the top thirty I just
Speaker 4: want to throw out so like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this isn't have a yemma modo. Last year too,
Speaker 1: it went from being reasonable to super aggressive right away,
Speaker 1: and that's when I was out. Let's talk about another
Speaker 1: guy or traditional route, Christian Campbell, Boston Red Sox. First
Speaker 1: little guy plays the in field, plays the out field. Jeff,
Speaker 1: you think that there's a chance this guy could even
Speaker 1: break with the club and that would be a huge win.
Speaker 1: Campbell last year made the rocket ship climb a ball
Speaker 1: or high a I should say double a tria A
Speaker 1: combined one hundred and fifteen games, twenty homer, seventy seven RBI, stole,
Speaker 1: twenty four bags, hit three point thirty with a nine
Speaker 1: to ninety seven ops. I mean the numbers are all there,
Speaker 1: so certainly the rocket ship has taken flight. Does it
Speaker 1: land in Boston in April?
Speaker 2: I think it does.
Speaker 3: They came out yesterday and said that he's going to
Speaker 3: compete for a job in spring. They don't have to
Speaker 3: make a statement like that this early. I think you
Speaker 3: look at the players that are on the roster. I
Speaker 3: think David Hamilton is a better utility player for them.
Speaker 3: He can get exposed if he plays too much defense
Speaker 3: at any position, particularly in the infield over a long stretch.
Speaker 3: You also have to sort of deal with, you know,
Speaker 3: potentially some some you know, maintenance. I think with Trevor's story,
Speaker 3: just hoping that he can get back to a point
Speaker 3: that maybe he can play one hundred and forty one
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty games. And I think, you know, you
Speaker 3: take a look at what Campbell did. This was a
Speaker 3: guy that was drafted in the fourth round, was considered
Speaker 3: kind of an afterthought in that draft.
Speaker 2: At college, you know, really.
Speaker 3: Was more of a Colin Simpson Victor Scott kind of
Speaker 3: a hitter.
Speaker 2: He was a guy that went the other way. He
Speaker 2: put the ball in play.
Speaker 3: He used his speed, you know, in quality defense to
Speaker 3: sort of make an impact. He was not a home
Speaker 3: run hitter. The team saw some things in him. They
Speaker 3: saw the fact that he had a big six', three
Speaker 3: really athletic.
Speaker 2: Frame you.
Speaker 3: KNOW i had the privilege of being around That worcester
Speaker 3: clubhouse over the last couple of series of the year
Speaker 3: and got to Know christian And, anthony you Know Roman
Speaker 3: anthony pretty well And Kyle teel and just the work
Speaker 3: ethic on On campbell was just kind of a different
Speaker 3: a different. ANIMAL i, mean this is a guy that
Speaker 3: went out and would take extra ground balls and extra
Speaker 3: infield practice at third, base at, shortstop at second, base
Speaker 3: would go and take balls in the outfield and then
Speaker 3: come back in and. Hit the changes that they made
Speaker 3: with his batpath were very, minimal but it unlocked a
Speaker 3: ton of bat. Speed it unlocked a ton of power
Speaker 3: that he didn't previously. Have the underlying contact quality metrics
Speaker 3: like x wobecon he had one of the highest x
Speaker 3: wobacons in all. Baseball that's a metric that comes from.
Speaker 3: Teams from my, reporting it's not publicly, available but that
Speaker 3: number puts him in the top ten in terms of contact.
Speaker 3: Quality so it's looking at launch, angles it's looking at you,
Speaker 3: know how hard the ball was, hit what field the
Speaker 3: ball was hit, to in terms of you know what's
Speaker 3: when this guy makes, contact how often is this, ball
Speaker 3: what kind of you, know wOBA is this guy going
Speaker 3: to have on balls and?
Speaker 2: Play he just really.
Speaker 3: Slugs he is excellent at keeping a really tighty, zone
Speaker 3: doesn't swing and miss in the. Zone the underlying metrics
Speaker 3: got better at every single. Level the production got better
Speaker 3: at every single. Level that shows me. Aptitude AND i
Speaker 3: think that that's sort of like the, unwritten under discussed
Speaker 3: characteristic of prospects is these guys that are, elite they
Speaker 3: get better at each. Stage is they're perfected with better,
Speaker 3: coaching better, opportunities better. EQUIPMENT i, mean in The Worcester,
Speaker 3: clubhouse they don't even take. It TOOK vp on field
Speaker 3: once a week because they have a traject machine in
Speaker 3: the bowels of The Worcester. Stadium so he's going in
Speaker 3: there and he's Facing Garrett cole every single.
Speaker 2: Day you, know it just puts you into a different
Speaker 2: AND i think.
Speaker 3: The place that The Red sox are at with hitting
Speaker 3: development right, now they're really turning up the. Cranks guys
Speaker 3: are coming out much better hitters than we had expected
Speaker 3: them to. Be you put all this, together they need
Speaker 3: right handed power in that. Lineup they need a guy
Speaker 3: that is dynamic and can play and be versatile over the.
Speaker 3: Field campbell really fits that for, him and it also
Speaker 3: puts them into consideration for A ppi pick if he
Speaker 3: does hit and he does succeed and he ends up
Speaker 3: in the top three of The rookie of The year
Speaker 3: voting or wins THE Al rookie of The, year, which
Speaker 3: by the, way Once asaki signed in THE, nl the
Speaker 3: path is a little bit.
Speaker 1: More the path is. Easier, yeah it might be for
Speaker 1: internally in his own.
Speaker 4: TIME i just did a short on. This if you
Speaker 4: guys follow us on some of the, SOCIALS i just
Speaker 4: did a short on, this you. Know AND i want
Speaker 4: to throw in, too BECAUSE i think when someone when
Speaker 4: you Hear Christian campbell on, here you guys are, like,
Speaker 4: hey what About Roman. ANTHONY i want to point out
Speaker 4: this specific.
Speaker 1: Pick this Is.
Speaker 4: Jeff jeff Had Christian campbell also A Red sox. Guy here,
Speaker 4: too Has Christian campbell Over Roman Anthony from That redraft,
Speaker 4: standpoint as your number one, guy you Had Christian. Campbell
Speaker 4: WHEN i asked you for this list Over Rokie sazaki
Speaker 4: and the THING i want to point out too With,
Speaker 4: CAMPBELL i actually am more enamored With campbell Than anthony
Speaker 4: because of the hitter that he is. Now anthony has
Speaker 4: some you want to call it louder, tools maybe a
Speaker 4: louder bat or a potential louder, Bat BUT i love
Speaker 4: the quality of contact with a guy Like. Campbell he
Speaker 4: had a twenty twenty season he hit over three. Hundred
Speaker 4: two of the three levels he hit over three. Hundred
Speaker 4: he hits lefties and righties both really. Well there's A
Speaker 4: Mookie Betts neiss to him where you look at maybe
Speaker 4: the size of futility the, yeah well you also look
Speaker 4: at the size.
Speaker 1: And the quick. Hands but he generates power like when
Speaker 1: he hits as it's funny they kind of pop off the.
Speaker 1: Bat we Watch Roman Anthony hill, running he drives the.
Speaker 1: Ball When i'm watching the video Of, campbell it's like
Speaker 1: he swings and he hits the ball so hard it
Speaker 1: pops up in the air and it goes out and
Speaker 1: it's a very different home run path that you see
Speaker 1: out of most. Guys and it's because of the bat
Speaker 1: speed that he generates with the hands being so. Quick
Speaker 1: that's the.
Speaker 4: Thing it really, stucks AND i Think campbell has the
Speaker 4: potential to put up A Jackson churio type of season
Speaker 4: where there can be some, slows some, goes and then
Speaker 4: all of a sudden it really pops with that great
Speaker 4: quality of contact at the, end where maybe he's not
Speaker 4: even the most physically. Imposing, Again anthony is just like
Speaker 4: big power bat that people feel, like, hey this could
Speaker 4: be thirty plus. Homerunpower but don't be surprised If campbell's
Speaker 4: there all, year kind of goes through the up and.
Speaker 4: Downs you've talked about him coming through the. ADVERSITY i
Speaker 4: really love. This i've Moved campbell up more and more and.
Speaker 4: More he was probably the highest rising guy for most
Speaker 4: people that rank prospects last, season SO i think this
Speaker 4: is super. Sneaky we will talk About Roman anthony, here
Speaker 4: But Christian campbell going in kind of this tier one of.
Speaker 4: Prospects for redraft.
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Speaker 1: start drafting smarter. Today, welsh let's kick to you at
Speaker 1: number three on the. List. Again this is a compilation
Speaker 1: list between the guys going back and. Forth So jason
Speaker 1: di Mingez New York yankees switch, hitter a guy that
Speaker 1: should absolutely rake in that little tiny wiffleball field of
Speaker 1: a stadium and certainly's going to get every opportunity now
Speaker 1: that wan so, Doos.
Speaker 4: YEAH i mean get your pitchforks and torches out against me.
Speaker 4: Lately jeff knows What i'm talking about With Jason. Deman, well,
Speaker 4: No jason di ming is his. Device i'm gonna point
Speaker 4: this out.
Speaker 1: HERE i have what's devices the guy the guy hits
Speaker 1: a tog give you a. Copy this is fantasy we're talking.
Speaker 1: About stays not the best glove in the.
Speaker 4: World but it's, okay well this is that's important to.
Speaker 2: IT.
Speaker 4: A there's a prospect. FATIGUE i think With Jason dimingez
Speaker 4: that's b he did not perform insanely in his professional
Speaker 4: debut last. Year there's prospect ranks that attach to, it
Speaker 4: And jeff's on Site Baseball america Dropped Jason diminguz outside
Speaker 4: the top. Twenty so there is a. Divisiveness but that's
Speaker 4: actually always been kind of my point if we were
Speaker 4: just talking purely prospects long term IS i do think
Speaker 4: there's eight divisiveness in the. TOP i think there's this
Speaker 4: big core of, players whether It's anthony Or campbell or
Speaker 4: a guy Like dimingas or Even Dylan. CRUZ i still
Speaker 4: really believe In Jason. Dimingez i've seen him, struggle watched
Speaker 4: him an entire season in THE afl out. Here we've
Speaker 4: seen some low batting average. Seasons we've also seen him bounce.
Speaker 4: Back there's a lot of great offensive tools in his
Speaker 4: short period of time in the. Majors last, year he
Speaker 4: put up a double digit barrel, rate give me over
Speaker 4: ten percent Barrel i'm starting to get. In hard hit
Speaker 4: rate was forty five over forty. Five i'm starting to
Speaker 4: really check. In those are both really good numbers that
Speaker 4: you want to.
Speaker 1: See.
Speaker 4: Now young guys struggle launch. Angles young guys are going
Speaker 4: to struggle with overall quality of, contact and that's what he's.
Speaker 4: DEVELOPING i think the other thing to point, out he's
Speaker 4: still a young. Guy he's still a. Suit he feels
Speaker 4: like he's thirty two years.
Speaker 1: OLD i know that's that is. True AND i watched
Speaker 1: him play At, sumrset which is fifteen minutes from my
Speaker 1: house the last two. Years i've seen him there twice
Speaker 1: NOW wi two, years multiple, times two years, ago once last,
Speaker 1: Year and you, know the power is, legitimate and you're.
Speaker 1: Right you, know he's also a very different size player
Speaker 1: where we're used to seeing the power hitters be these bigger.
Speaker 1: Guys he's five to nine h a good. DAY i,
Speaker 1: mean let's be, honest you, know like some of these
Speaker 1: things were like he's five. Eleven i'm, like if he's five,
Speaker 1: eleven Then i'm six feet. Tall like that that just ain't.
Speaker 1: Happen so he is a smaller, guy different body. TIME
Speaker 1: i think that also throws some people off, too maybe
Speaker 1: in the prospect, world because he doesn't look like what
Speaker 1: some of those guys.
Speaker 4: LIKE i completely. Agree the projection has always been a weird.
Speaker 4: Thing the Thing i'll just end with, is LIKE i
Speaker 4: think prospect fatigue plays a bigger. Role there is a
Speaker 4: whole ish in his. Swing he had a really high
Speaker 4: ast like twenty eight percent major league strike out, rate
Speaker 4: but in the minors off of that last season where
Speaker 4: you hyper focus on the, majors the dude did three,
Speaker 4: Hundred he hit, homers he stole, bases like he's going
Speaker 4: to do those. Things he's a switch, hitter where left
Speaker 4: handed hitters it's an incredible right handed power or it's
Speaker 4: an incredible environment for left handed hitters In Yankee, stadium
Speaker 4: he showed off some of that, power AND i think
Speaker 4: we're too quick to write off development. Sometimes So i'm
Speaker 4: very high On Jason. Dominguez, STILL i do think there'll
Speaker 4: be some bumps and, Bruises but, projections even under one
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty, games you want to look at LIKE
Speaker 4: atc Or steamer or, whatever they're already pushing twenty, twenty
Speaker 4: close to twenty, twenty and that's not even on a full.
Speaker 4: Season if you have a full season and he does
Speaker 4: progress twenty one years Old Jason dominguez is a great.
Speaker 4: Bet and as we go through the, Names diminguz has
Speaker 4: a starting spot from day one like. Nothing campbell's phenomenal,
Speaker 4: Here he's not. Guaranteed there's more guys on here that
Speaker 4: are not. Guaran Jason diminguz is. Guaranteed he's going to
Speaker 4: be out. There so from a redraft, perspective we can
Speaker 4: argue about the long term blah blah. Blah that's, Fine
Speaker 4: but from a redraft, Perspective Jason diminguz is a great.
Speaker 4: Bet that's why he's. Three Jeff Baseball, america you guys
Speaker 4: dropped him a decent, amount BUT i know plenty of
Speaker 4: that does come from he is a poor. Defender that
Speaker 4: is a left. Fielder now he's not a great, defender
Speaker 4: but you Please taka just for a minute or so
Speaker 4: On Jason dimingez is and what you think on that.
Speaker 3: Offense, yeah AND i think you can look at our
Speaker 3: fantasy ranks that came out a week before. That we
Speaker 3: dropped the one point fifty for, prospects which Is dylan
Speaker 3: AND i working together a lot of that is the
Speaker 3: model we have him. FIVE i, mean it's Rookie, Roman
Speaker 3: Anthony Christian, Campbell Kobe mayo And, Domingas and, HONESTLY i
Speaker 3: think With mayo And domingas you could probably argue one
Speaker 3: way or the. Other you, know some of that is
Speaker 3: probably based on how the model spit it out To
Speaker 3: the numbers are really good in TRIPA a For, mayo
Speaker 3: and he has a pretty good sample size, there SO
Speaker 3: i think that's probably part of. It we've already seen
Speaker 3: this guy have success in the major leagues as. Well switch,
Speaker 3: hitter you, know they're going to get him into the.
Speaker 3: Lineup there is big. Power you, know he's maybe a shorter.
Speaker 3: GUY i don't think that's such an issue because this
Speaker 3: dude's built like a free SAT i, mean like that
Speaker 3: was From, alabama he'd be playing for The Crimson tide
Speaker 3: and ring and running backs. BELLS i mean that's the
Speaker 3: kind of build that this guy. Has, like, yeah he's
Speaker 3: five 't, nine but he's two ten and.
Speaker 4: He's Stones drew playing a.
Speaker 2: Tank he's built like a.
Speaker 1: Tech no hes running, back and that's.
Speaker 2: Fun running backs are.
Speaker 1: Five but you don't see a lot of these guys
Speaker 1: nowadays in that, Build like they don't make him.
Speaker 3: That those athletes In america don't play baseball they end
Speaker 3: up playing, football you, know like it's it's just sort
Speaker 3: of the nature of.
Speaker 2: It the fact that He's. Dominican it's one of the
Speaker 2: reasons that he plays.
Speaker 3: BASEBALL i think you look at his ability to get on,
Speaker 3: base the fact that you know he can hit from
Speaker 3: both sides of the plate and hit them from both
Speaker 3: sides of the, plate and show, power which makes him
Speaker 3: more of a matchup, issue which means he's not going
Speaker 3: to be a guy that's going to get platooned as.
Speaker 2: Much it also means that there's probably a little.
Speaker 3: More runway just in terms of him learning some of
Speaker 3: the you, know specifics of of facing major league. Pitching,
Speaker 3: right it takes a little bit longer for switch hitters
Speaker 3: to get. GOING i think the biggest thing you brought
Speaker 3: up prospect. FATIGUE i think it was just unrealistic. Expectations
Speaker 3: we had people ranking this guy in the top ten
Speaker 3: before he had even stepped foot on a professional baseball.
Speaker 3: Field we had people comparing To Mike trout And Mickey.
Speaker 3: Mannle we've seen.
Speaker 1: That and he's A, Yankee, jeff and that doesn't. Help
Speaker 1: we all know the overrated us Of yankee.
Speaker 3: Times if you look some of their guys haven't been
Speaker 3: as hyped as you would think that they would.
Speaker 1: Not, recently but there's definitely that. Industrial, well he's A,
Speaker 1: yankee so we're gonna have, to you, know overrate. Him
Speaker 1: and that's part of the back with The.
Speaker 3: CUBS i think that happens with The. DODGERS i think
Speaker 3: that happens with The Red. SOX i think that happens
Speaker 3: with The. PHILLIES i think it's just any fan base
Speaker 3: that's plugged in and loves their team and has like
Speaker 3: a well established foundational sort of. PASSION i think a
Speaker 3: lot of, THAT a lot of that comes. Up you,
Speaker 3: know people are talking, about what's.
Speaker 1: Funny you mentioned The, Cubs, jeff because the next guy
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about is A. Cub It's Matt,
Speaker 1: shaw infielder Of Chicago, cubs number four on our. List
Speaker 1: And shaw another guy too who is not the biggest.
Speaker 1: Fellow he's also listed right now On Baseball reference at
Speaker 1: five nine one. Five so, again it's nice to see
Speaker 1: some guys that are MORE i can like look eye
Speaker 1: to eye with In Major League. Baseball i'm liking this.
Speaker 1: Trend over one hundred and twenty one games combined last
Speaker 1: year between double And tripa a a kid at two
Speaker 1: eighty four with a three seventy NINE obp of four eighty,
Speaker 1: eight slugging twenty one homers over that. Span so Certainly
Speaker 1: shaw has shown you versatility in the. Infield he can play.
Speaker 1: Anywhere and The cups are a team now with That
Speaker 1: Kyle tucker. Acquisition, look you went out and you got
Speaker 1: Uh imanaga last. Year if you Got, steel healthy pekrol,
Speaker 1: armstrong second half was really. Strong The CUBS i think
Speaker 1: smell blood in the water in this division AND i
Speaker 1: think they should be. Aggressive Is shaw part of those
Speaker 1: plans in twenty twenty? Five you think?
Speaker 3: Yeah AND i think you can look at the The
Speaker 3: Kyle tucker trade that it kind of served two. Masters
Speaker 3: they had to move a prospect in Cam smith who
Speaker 3: was really trending. Upward he was one of the biggest
Speaker 3: movers in our top one. Hundred i'm even looking back
Speaker 3: on like WHERE i had turned him. In you, know
Speaker 3: we turn in our top one, fifties or at least do.
Speaker 3: Mine sort of AFTER i finish the handbook Before, christmas
Speaker 3: turn it, in Then i'm off for three. Weeks that's
Speaker 3: kind of my three weeks WHERE i can just, chill
Speaker 3: go Watch christmas, vacation hang out with the, kids do
Speaker 3: all that.
Speaker 2: Sort of tough and you, know he's a.
Speaker 3: Guy the feedback as we were doing the top one hundred,
Speaker 3: list so we put it together based on our, list
Speaker 3: based on the grades and, everything and then we send
Speaker 3: it out to thirty. Teams we send it out TO,
Speaker 3: gms we send it out TO, agms we send it
Speaker 3: out to scouting. Directors we just try to collect as
Speaker 3: much possible feedback as we. Can and the player that
Speaker 3: we got the most up arrow feedback on that you
Speaker 3: know wouldn't totally surprise, you Was Cam.
Speaker 2: Smith the other one Was George Lombard.
Speaker 3: Junior we got move up feedback On George lombard Junior
Speaker 3: yankee shortstop like, consistently and the numbers wouldn't necessarily back.
Speaker 3: That some of that is the fact that he can play.
Speaker 3: Shortstop but you, KNOW i think you look At, shaw
Speaker 3: they made this. Trade they traded away ice Hock. Parades
Speaker 3: they opened up a spot at third base For, shaw
Speaker 3: which if you look back to last year entering the,
Speaker 3: season they moved him from sort of being a shortstop
Speaker 3: second basement to, like, hey you're going to spend the
Speaker 3: offseason working at third. BASE i will Say i've been
Speaker 3: exposed To. Shaw he's a local guy to. Me grew
Speaker 3: up about twenty minutes from my. House played high school
Speaker 3: baseball At Worcester academy for Actually Brian, abraham the director
Speaker 3: of the player to development director for The Red.
Speaker 2: Sox his brother is actually the head coach At Worcester.
Speaker 2: Academy really really good.
Speaker 3: Program they had another, Guy Maverick, rizzy who's a big
Speaker 3: draft prospect probably in a couple of years coming out of.
Speaker 3: College One Cape Cod LEAGUE mvp was the best player
Speaker 3: in The Cape Cod league in the twenty twenty two
Speaker 3: season from pretty much the jump until the. End hit
Speaker 3: a big home run in the championship game For. Born
Speaker 3: he's just always been a, gamer all time player in
Speaker 3: That maryland. Program just kind of a Gritty northeast cold weather.
Speaker 2: Player he's going to do whatever he needs to do to.
Speaker 4: Win.
Speaker 2: YEAH i Think shaw just has a really good all around.
Speaker 3: Profile he's gonna run a, liver but he's gonna git for,
Speaker 3: Power he's going to get on, base he's going to
Speaker 3: hit for batting, average AND i think The cubs know.
Speaker 3: That and it's a bat first. Prospect you, know really
Speaker 3: the development needs to make us more on the defensive
Speaker 3: side of the.
Speaker 2: Ball but you, look they got a spot for him right.
Speaker 4: Now he was a twenty thirty guy last year and
Speaker 4: then he played in the off, season didn't go to THE,
Speaker 4: aflay played for A TEAM usa for The premiere twelve
Speaker 4: and was LIKE. Mvp he was one of the hottest
Speaker 4: bats after the season end as. Well it is a
Speaker 4: really good trajectory for, him big offensive counting. Stats So
Speaker 4: i'm very much in On Matt shaw and again. Proximity
Speaker 4: that's why he is in the top five of the.
Speaker 4: Prospects he need to know because he's got that from day.
Speaker 1: One all, Right so those are The tier one. Guys
Speaker 1: we're gonna pick things up here In tier two and
Speaker 1: maybe give you some bonus names to keep an eye. On,
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Speaker 1: let's talk About Dylan, cruz a guy that we saw
Speaker 1: a little bit of a glimpse of last year the
Speaker 1: powers for Real washington really sort of remaking itself Here
Speaker 1: Welsh cruz looks like a big part of that and
Speaker 1: a guy that could hit for power right. Away so
Speaker 1: what are the pluses and minuses? Here he has number
Speaker 1: five on this list Of Dylan, cruz.
Speaker 4: And he's kind of almost like A Fringy tier One
Speaker 4: tier two because he's in that Same James jason De vengez.
Speaker 4: Camp he got up to the. Majors he didn't quite
Speaker 4: pop off, statistically but he's gonna be from day. One he's,
Speaker 4: gonna you, know be in That rookie of The year,
Speaker 4: chase WHICH i think is interesting too because you look
Speaker 4: At Roki sazaki and you're, Like, okay it's. Over not
Speaker 4: necessarily with these, GUYS i Think Dylan cruz could be
Speaker 4: one of those sneaky. Ones WHAT i like about him
Speaker 4: is that overall hitting. Profile i'm not sure that we
Speaker 4: went from a time For Dylan cruz was like gonna
Speaker 4: be the biggest Prize Bryce harper in college and then
Speaker 4: everything kind of median down and again there's kind of
Speaker 4: a fatigue that.
Speaker 1: Happens he just is.
Speaker 4: Consistent he does. Stuff he hits the ball on both
Speaker 4: sides of the field consistently hard this year in The
Speaker 4: majors when he was, up he had an almost forty
Speaker 4: five percent hard hit, rate WHICH i, Like barrel's gonna come.
Speaker 4: Up he was getting the ball in the air a
Speaker 4: decent amount and maybe the most exciting under twenty percent
Speaker 4: strikeout rate in The majors while. Walking why is that all? Good,
Speaker 4: well clearly from a projection, standpoint you're already looking at
Speaker 4: like a fifteen thirty guy in a lot of projections
Speaker 4: for this. Season but guess, What unlike Probably, campbell Unlike Jason,
Speaker 4: Diminguez cruz might be the leadoff hitter for The. Nationals
Speaker 4: he might be hitting at the top of the, lineup
Speaker 4: so you're gonna get some, sneaky sneaky runs while he's.
Speaker 4: RUNNING i think the power is kind of underprojected for
Speaker 4: a guy Like, cruise AND i think it's pretty easy
Speaker 4: to see him as like a two, sixty near twenty,
Speaker 4: homers near thirty stolen, bases and really good run, support
Speaker 4: maybe in the eighty to ninety. RANGE i think he's
Speaker 4: a sneaky rookie of the. Year BET i think he's
Speaker 4: a great bet to get later in. Drafts right, now
Speaker 4: he's a. Prospect LIKE i said, THAT i do think
Speaker 4: he belongs in that upper tier because he's put in
Speaker 4: a really solid advantage standpoint WHERE i think some of
Speaker 4: his hitting questions might be not as dramatic as a
Speaker 4: guy Like Jason, dominguez but the upside isn't quite as
Speaker 4: exciting As dimingez Or Christian campbell.
Speaker 1: And a guy. Too if he's hitting in that one
Speaker 1: or two spot in front Of james Would seymour, fastballs
Speaker 1: that's a good recipe for more, contact which is what
Speaker 1: you want to see out of. Him in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Five let's go to a pitcher finally again on this,
Speaker 1: list do a lot of position players, Here Jackson job
Speaker 1: as it should be one hundred percent without a, doubt
Speaker 1: go position Players Jackson, job starting Pitcher Detroit, Tigers Jeff
Speaker 1: he is number six on the. List he's the guy
Speaker 1: that you put in. There he has a little bit
Speaker 1: of a if you a more compact version Of Matt
Speaker 1: caine is HOW i always see him in terms of
Speaker 1: like his delivery and. Approach that's that's WHAT i got
Speaker 1: from watching. Him i'm curious what are your expectations from?
Speaker 1: Him because The Detroit tigers certainly exceeded all expectations of
Speaker 1: being a playoff team last. Year so Is job a
Speaker 1: guy that you see is going to be in that
Speaker 1: rotation run away or a guy that maybe they slow
Speaker 1: play just a little bit, longer based upon how you
Speaker 1: want to build his.
Speaker 3: Innings, YEAH i, mean you, know they kind of rocketed
Speaker 3: him up to the major. Leagues they gave, him you,
Speaker 3: know that first sort of hint of experience in the.
Speaker 2: Bullpen they could do that maybe.
Speaker 3: Early how they use their bullpen and how they sort
Speaker 3: of deploy their pitchers is a little bit, different a
Speaker 3: little bit more progressive than some other. Teams SO i
Speaker 3: do think that there's maybe some opportunity that early he's
Speaker 3: more of a multi inning. RELIEVER i think that By,
Speaker 3: july you, know once he you, know maybe figures out
Speaker 3: some of the pitchability. Stuff from a stuff, standpoint there's
Speaker 3: nobody on the list that has better stuff Than Jackson.
Speaker 3: Job there aren't many people walk in the face of
Speaker 3: the earth that throw better stuff Than Jackson, Job AND
Speaker 3: i think that's maybe the difference between him And. Kane
Speaker 3: from like an aesthetic, standpoint not a bad call at.
Speaker 3: ALL i can sort of see it.
Speaker 1: Well their approach it's very, SIMPLE i, think you know
Speaker 1: WHAT i. Mean Like caine was a very straightforward delivery,
Speaker 1: guy very simple over the, front but you're right from
Speaker 1: the stuff a little bit more, electric.
Speaker 2: Yeah super clean gate like all that sort of.
Speaker 3: Stuff like his leg block is very, direct the same
Speaker 3: way That kines, is but he's generating way bigger. STUFF i,
Speaker 3: mean like he's a guy that throws a super efficient.
Speaker 3: Fastball he gets, ride he gets armside, Run he's sitting
Speaker 3: ninety seven and ninety eight miles per hour in that.
Speaker 3: Pitch but he also can you, know break off three
Speaker 3: thousand rpm, yackers just absolutely crazy breaking, balls and his
Speaker 3: change up might be his best. Pitch like this is
Speaker 3: a deep arsenal of plus PITCHES i think potentially with
Speaker 3: feel for, pitching.
Speaker 2: It's it's just a matter of like.
Speaker 3: SEQUENCING i think once he sort of figures out how
Speaker 3: to attack different. Batters and if you look at The,
Speaker 3: tigers they're kind of following That astros model of everybody
Speaker 3: throws four or five. Pitches everybody has sort of like
Speaker 3: two different. Pitches they could throw a secondaries Against righty's
Speaker 3: two different pitches that they could throw a secondaries against,
Speaker 3: lefties and it's sort of, like how are we going
Speaker 3: to gain plan this guy in a given. DAY i
Speaker 3: do think that this, guy by you, Know may Or,
Speaker 3: june you're talking about you, know five six innings every
Speaker 3: single time.
Speaker 2: Out but they might slow play him in the first
Speaker 2: month or.
Speaker 3: SO i would say just stay patient and just you,
Speaker 3: know rack up those kper nine innings because if he's
Speaker 3: coming out of the, bullpen he's probably going.
Speaker 2: To be throwing a little bit. Harder you looking to, strike.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a problem if he comes out of
Speaker 1: a bullpen like that's that's a.
Speaker 3: Problem, yeah this is the guy that hit one, Hundred
Speaker 3: SO i think when you just looking from a pure stuff,
Speaker 3: perspective he might be tops in the, list even over
Speaker 3: guys Like rochi and.
Speaker 1: Others And, JEFF i know we touched On Roman anthony,
Speaker 1: earlier but look now we finally got to him on
Speaker 1: the list at number seven here and this is the
Speaker 1: guy that's GETTING i think it generating the most buzz
Speaker 1: typically around circles this. Year it feels like and a
Speaker 1: guy that does more look the part, right does have
Speaker 1: that sweet left handed, Swing he's got the, power everything
Speaker 1: is there for. Him the question is when and where
Speaker 1: when it comes To, Anthony.
Speaker 3: YEAH i mean there's still an outside chance, that you,
Speaker 3: know he could just come into camp and just dominate
Speaker 3: and somehow sort of play himself into an everyday. Role
Speaker 3: it's just that is a very crowded group right now
Speaker 3: in terms of the personnel on the active, roster And
Speaker 3: i'm the forty man. Roster Because anthony's forty man roster
Speaker 3: decision still a couple of years. AWAY i would imagine
Speaker 3: that's not going to be an. Issue will probably be
Speaker 3: on the forty man roster by the end of the.
Speaker 3: Year but you, KNOW i do think that you can
Speaker 3: take a look at the fact that A bray who
Speaker 3: is still, here there were some rumors that he could get.
Speaker 3: MOVED i think if that guy gets, moved then that
Speaker 3: opens up a spot For. Anthony, so you, know if
Speaker 3: that happens in the next couple of, months you, know
Speaker 3: your drafts already happened to redraft And anthony's sitting out,
Speaker 3: There i'd go and make a play for.
Speaker 5: HIM i.
Speaker 2: Think you.
Speaker 3: Know the other part of is you Got, duran you Got,
Speaker 3: rafaelo who they've committed some money To they still Have.
Speaker 3: Yoshida there's been some talk Of yoshida potentially playing left
Speaker 3: field this year a little, bit so they got to
Speaker 3: figure out where a bray you and your sheet is
Speaker 3: sort of.
Speaker 2: Lie they don't have.
Speaker 3: To force the issue With anthony in terms of HOW
Speaker 3: i would bucket him, out he's very similar To james.
Speaker 3: Would maybe a little bit less of an, athlete not
Speaker 3: quite as tall As james, Would but in terms of,
Speaker 3: hits the ball every bit is, hard the exit, Velocity
Speaker 3: dad is right there with would probably a better contact
Speaker 3: hitter than would not a lot of swing and missing the.
Speaker 3: Zone you, know his end ZONE wif rate is like
Speaker 3: fifteen sixteen. Percent it's kind of been like that since
Speaker 3: he got into pro. Ball get walks a, lot doesn't,
Speaker 3: chase and you, know talking to, HIM i think like
Speaker 3: his mentality is, that you, know he's not a power,
Speaker 3: Hitter he's a hitter with, power AND i think that's
Speaker 3: sort of the best way to look at. It big
Speaker 3: thing with, him AND i think it's the same With
Speaker 3: wood and it's actually the same With Dylan. Cruz just
Speaker 3: a matter of these guys optimizing hard contact and just
Speaker 3: learning how to put the ball in the air to
Speaker 3: pull side more, consistently to get more home run power
Speaker 3: out of. There you, know the shortest part of the
Speaker 3: park is going to be to your pull side every single,
Speaker 3: time no matter what ballpark you're playing.
Speaker 1: It it was very Zen. Jeff he's not a power.
Speaker 1: Hitter he's a hitter with. POWER i, like can we
Speaker 1: get that sat?
Speaker 2: Him that's his. Quote that's that's.
Speaker 1: WRONG i like. It that Is that is good. Stuff
Speaker 1: that is good. Stuff also good. Stuff number eight on our,
Speaker 1: List Jordan lawler shorts up for The Arizona, diamondbacks hopefully
Speaker 1: sooner than. Later, welsh you, know it's hard not to
Speaker 1: watch this kid and get a Little derek jeterfield when
Speaker 1: he hits that ball the opposite, field the way he
Speaker 1: does that inside out that he's got perhaps maybe a
Speaker 1: more gifted, athlete you, know in terms of physical. Tools
Speaker 1: maybe we'll see what the work ethic is, like if
Speaker 1: it's anything close to. It Derek, Jeter, well things are
Speaker 1: going to be really good In. Arizona but let's talk
Speaker 1: about him the eta that he, has in your, opinion
Speaker 1: and What arizona did right in the off season to
Speaker 1: hopefully create a better environment for, him because you did
Speaker 1: Lose Christian, walker but you did gain Josh neyler in.
Speaker 1: Return you had a resurgence in the second half of this,
Speaker 1: team especially Cor Corbyn, carroll and now all of a,
Speaker 1: sudden you, know The Arizona diamondbacks are set up still
Speaker 1: in a very tough, division but is still a pretty
Speaker 1: formidable light.
Speaker 5: Up.
Speaker 4: YEAH i, MEAN i would say the interesting things they
Speaker 4: didn't do anything that helps us For, lawler AND i
Speaker 4: think that could lead to a reason why he becomes
Speaker 4: even more. Valuable been a good, shortstop he's fine in the.
Speaker 4: INFIELD i don't think it's out of pocket that The
Speaker 4: diamondbacks pull Of Jackson merrill With Jordan lawler and they
Speaker 4: even test some of that outfield. WORK i don't know
Speaker 4: if they'll come off of per. Doma i'm not saying
Speaker 4: they're gonna do, this by the, way because they're they're
Speaker 4: kind of like The Red. Sox they're blanketed too much
Speaker 4: with guys in the. Outfield but they've been. Talking there's
Speaker 4: been talks of. Moves if they were to end up,
Speaker 4: moving it's all just left handed. Hitters if they were
Speaker 4: to move McCarthy Or Alec, THOMAS i think there's a
Speaker 4: possibility he could play some super utill role that's out.
Speaker 4: There you, know you're talking The jeter. Thing what's interesting
Speaker 4: is Like lawler's problem and positive is a lot of
Speaker 4: young hitters struggle with getting the ball in the. Air
Speaker 4: you'll see like do did it where it's, like, look
Speaker 4: it's really good metrics like hard hit and, barrel but
Speaker 4: a three degree launch. Angle ellie had the same thing
Speaker 4: When Neil. CRUZ i THINK i had the same. Thing lawler,
Speaker 4: wasn't but it wasn't good. Contact so he's like a
Speaker 4: thirteen degree launch, angle zero barrel rate in the majors
Speaker 4: this past. Year but he had a solid minor league,
Speaker 4: season hit over three hundred in a small amount of,
Speaker 4: bats dealing with. Injuries he then went and PLAYED i
Speaker 4: believe it was in The Dominican Winner league and really
Speaker 4: started hitting again and found that. Stroke couple. Homers he
Speaker 4: was being, consistent AND i think that's the key is
Speaker 4: like that bat has always been. Live he makes solid,
Speaker 4: contact but it's been inconsistent as he has developed at
Speaker 4: the upper. Level still another young, guy complete prospect. Fatigue
Speaker 4: everyone's over, him everyone doesn't care about him. Anymore but
Speaker 4: the roadblock here Is Roaldo, perdomo And lavello loves him
Speaker 4: and doesn't want to get him off of that. Team
Speaker 4: so we'll have to watch and see if they talk
Speaker 4: about maybe playing him in the outfield if they move
Speaker 4: some other outfield. Prospects but here's the. Deal you can't
Speaker 4: keep him in the miners. Anymore you got to get
Speaker 4: him at the. Majors he should see a girth of
Speaker 4: at bats this, season and just don't forget this is
Speaker 4: a twenty twenty potential. Player it really going to pay
Speaker 4: attention to the contact. Development but he is worth a
Speaker 4: late round guy and he's one of these prospects that
Speaker 4: you got to own because of proximity to the majors
Speaker 4: this whole.
Speaker 1: Year we had one hundred and five games in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three last, year just twenty. Three how much does
Speaker 1: that enter into his eta in your opinion?
Speaker 4: Too, yeah, WELL i mean it's the, injury like he's
Speaker 4: got to stay. Healthy he's one of those guys he just.
Speaker 1: Well that's WHAT i, Mean, like but you missed that development.
Speaker 1: Time it's something that Like Byron buckson used to miss
Speaker 1: all that development, time and you could see it used
Speaker 1: to hurt him when he was trying to make that
Speaker 1: adjustment to the major league. Level do you Think lawler's in, That?
Speaker 4: SAALE i think there's a, potential like he could be
Speaker 4: sat down for the first month of the season going
Speaker 4: into the minor, leagues trying to get some consistent at
Speaker 4: that's but he's been with this organization enough and at
Speaker 4: the major. LEAGUES i wouldn't be surprised if it's just
Speaker 4: be healthy all of spring training and then just get
Speaker 4: him on the team and LIKE i, said maybe use
Speaker 4: him in. This he doesn't play six out of seven
Speaker 4: days in a. Week he plays four out of seven.
Speaker 4: Days so be on the lookout that For Wood, lawler
Speaker 4: spring training will be a Big there's a couple of
Speaker 4: guys we just Mentioned, anthony If yoshida or a Brad
Speaker 4: you gets moved, diamondback same. Thing watch what they're, saying
Speaker 4: and watch if the outfielders are out, there because both
Speaker 4: of those guys could. Be anthony's not so, sneaky But
Speaker 4: lawler could be.
Speaker 2: Sneaky all.
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Speaker 1: guy on the. List pittsburgh has a lot of starting
Speaker 1: pitchers all of a, sudden And, jeff this feels like
Speaker 1: a guy who who you? Know right? Now again the
Speaker 1: just electric system of these pictures coming through, here which
Speaker 1: is really fun because pirate fans haven't had a lot
Speaker 1: to cheer. About do you think well means want to
Speaker 1: put you this? Way, chandler give me a number for
Speaker 1: starts you think he might make for The Big. Club
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 2: Twenty, FOUR i think he's gonna.
Speaker 4: Break.
Speaker 2: WOW i think that that's a cool.
Speaker 3: REASON i think there's no reason at this point for
Speaker 3: them to hold Down. CHANDLER i think you look at
Speaker 3: the back end of that rotation with LIKE OVI eighto
Speaker 3: and some of these guys like this is this is
Speaker 3: The pirates.
Speaker 2: Opportunity it's to.
Speaker 3: It's you, know to Have Schemes jones And chandler together
Speaker 3: in that. Rotation they Got Thomas harrington who's a little bit,
Speaker 3: different less of a stuff, guy more of an execution
Speaker 3: type of pitcher that's waiting in the wings as. Well,
Speaker 3: really you, know they're sort of primed for. This and you,
Speaker 3: KNOW i think you look at a guy Like, chandler
Speaker 3: he's not on the forty man. Roster they do have
Speaker 3: guys Like burrows And ashcraft who are on the forty man.
Speaker 3: Roster the back end of this forty man is not
Speaker 3: the kind of forty man that's going to hold back
Speaker 3: a pitcher like. This you look at the steps that
Speaker 3: he took forward last. Year he made seven starts In TRIPLE.
Speaker 3: A at the end of the. Season he could return
Speaker 3: there for maybe a few weeks and then be up
Speaker 3: THE ppi is a huge part, of you, know How
Speaker 3: pittsburgh needs to. FUNCTION i am sure That charrington.
Speaker 2: Is well aware of. THAT i know that folks in
Speaker 2: the organization are well aware of.
Speaker 3: That some of the things That pittsburgh is doing behind the,
Speaker 3: scenes stuff that's not being discussed. Publicly hopefully later this
Speaker 3: Offseason i'll be able to dig into. It but some
Speaker 3: of the things THAT i know just from doing my,
Speaker 3: reporting doing my, job that they're doing on the back
Speaker 3: end is really. Advanced the hitting stuff is not caught
Speaker 3: up as, much BUT i think you look at what
Speaker 3: they're doing in the pitching, side the development, grips some
Speaker 3: of that stuff that they're working with is very, progressive very,
Speaker 3: interesting and they're getting the best out of these.
Speaker 2: Guys you, Know.
Speaker 3: Chandler came up to TRIPLE a seven, starts thirty nine
Speaker 3: in the third innings one point eight THREE, era and
Speaker 3: it's back bay at two point seven Eight fip striking
Speaker 3: out the world as.
Speaker 2: Well it's a great. FASTBALL i wrote an article.
Speaker 3: TODAY i do it every, year ranking out the best
Speaker 3: pitches in the top.
Speaker 2: One hundred bags of that.
Speaker 3: Article by the, Way, Baba chandler's got the best fastball
Speaker 3: that's over.
Speaker 2: Job that's over a lot of these guys eleat.
Speaker 3: Fastballs Jacob, mizerowski who literally lives off his. Fastball it's
Speaker 3: a really good change up and you know he can
Speaker 3: spin the slider, enough landed enough that you know it.
Speaker 3: Works it's probably more of like A Major league, FIFTY
Speaker 3: i would say at this, point but you're talking about
Speaker 3: a seventy fastball and you, know maybe a sixty change
Speaker 3: up guy that can dominate power through. Stuff and you,
Speaker 3: know if you look at the, progression this was a
Speaker 3: two way guy in high school and was drafted as.
Speaker 3: Such that's you, know now developed as a full time,
Speaker 3: pitcher big, body, athletic, physical and you, know there's not
Speaker 3: many guys that throw the pill much harder Than.
Speaker 1: Chandler all, right another guy throws the ball pretty. Hard
Speaker 1: Kumar rocker of The Texas rangers has been a long
Speaker 1: and winding. Road is that fair to? Say well For Kamar,
Speaker 1: rocker who now finds himself and, look he got his
Speaker 1: debut last. Year the guy's got strikeout. Ability he has
Speaker 1: A Lee smith quality about him where it just like
Speaker 1: a presence on the, mound throws. Hard everything seems like
Speaker 1: it's coming right at, you AND i wonder, too that being,
Speaker 1: said because of the long and winding, road with the
Speaker 1: injuries and building back innings and all this, stuff Could
Speaker 1: Kamar rocker be a guy that you end up maybe
Speaker 1: just maybe seeing in the bullpen more than the starting
Speaker 1: rotation this? Year but you want to keep those innings
Speaker 1: at the big league level because we all Know texas
Speaker 1: is trying to get back in this. Thing what do
Speaker 1: you think about his twenty twenty five and what it
Speaker 1: might look like?
Speaker 4: NOW a year, Ago i'd have said one hundred. Percent
Speaker 4: NOW i would say, NOW i Think Jack lider is
Speaker 4: more likely to be in the rotation that it Would Kumar.
Speaker 4: Rocker and the reason behind that is the development or
Speaker 4: the redevelopment of his slider that has made the fastball,
Speaker 4: better and it kind of in verses as. Well his biggest.
Speaker 4: PROBLEM i have a crazy history With Kumar rucker because
Speaker 4: he was my first ever interview on My prospect one
Speaker 4: show back when he was at high, school and then
Speaker 4: now we're. Here when he got to the, majors his fastball.
Speaker 4: Disappeared he couldn't command his, fastball he couldn't find. Velocity
Speaker 4: and then guess what that made his slider. Stink everyone
Speaker 4: was just sitting on the slider or you, know it
Speaker 4: was just like if you knew the slider was, coming
Speaker 4: just don't swing out of it if it's going out
Speaker 4: of the, zone and just wait for this. Fastball they
Speaker 4: got that. Fixed his fastball looks like it's. Back it
Speaker 4: hit ninety six last year in the. Majors he's got
Speaker 4: this sinker that he was throwing ninety. Five so a
Speaker 4: little bit of a different, offering breaking your visual. Plane
Speaker 4: and then the slider became a lead again and the
Speaker 4: slider was just a. Lead he was throwing it for.
Speaker 4: Strikes had a forty seven percent strikeout or k percentage
Speaker 4: in the majors last. Year SO i would say, this
Speaker 4: he now, back has a repertoire of a starting. Pitcher
Speaker 4: he went deep into games when he was in. College
Speaker 4: one of those prolific college pitchers out. There Kumar rocker's.
Speaker 4: Back you want to get back to our free offer
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Speaker 4: Doing lock IN Al rookie of The year two thousand plus,
Speaker 4: Twenty so twenty to one For Kumar rocker For rookie
Speaker 4: of The. Year he has a decent chance to be
Speaker 4: in the rotation the whole. Season projections have him around
Speaker 4: one hundred and forty. Innings he's got to beat Out
Speaker 4: Cody bradford could be the. Bullpen but that slider came.
Speaker 4: Back looks like you could be a prominent strike up.
Speaker 1: Pitcher.
Speaker 4: AGAIN i Think Kamar rocker is, sneaky and that's why
Speaker 4: you should be on this.
Speaker 1: LIST i don't see a closer on this roster right.
Speaker 1: NOW i See Kamar, rocker AND i See Lee, smith
Speaker 1: AND i see a guy's, like, hey let's just get
Speaker 1: the best out of. Him give me seventy, innings, kid aren't.
Speaker 4: You you're always Putting jacob de gram as a, closer
Speaker 4: so he.
Speaker 1: Would have stayed healthy had you maybe put him in,
Speaker 1: there just saying that'll be a fun. Debate he'll be
Speaker 1: back in the rotation this, year all. Right so those
Speaker 1: are your top ten, Guys but of course we like
Speaker 1: to give you some extra stuff around these. Parts So,
Speaker 1: welsh give me two guys that just missed the list
Speaker 1: that people should be watching out for in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: Five So i'm going to give you bigger named. Prospects
Speaker 4: jeff definitely has some better fun prospects that aren't going
Speaker 4: to be on ANY radarss for better.
Speaker 1: Everybody, yeah, well.
Speaker 4: Well these are two. BITS i think you might argue
Speaker 4: that these are better, players but it's just will they
Speaker 4: be up. There Chase dolander with The rockies one of
Speaker 4: the best minor league pitchers all season last. Year everyone
Speaker 4: hates it because he's A Colorado. Rocky the team about
Speaker 4: a week, AGO i believe it, was was already talking
Speaker 4: about they are going to give him a shot to
Speaker 4: break camp with the major league roster and be in.
Speaker 4: There that would enable them to be eligible FOR, ppi
Speaker 4: and that would give them a pitcher because they don't
Speaker 4: have any good. Ones, now you don't want to ruin,
Speaker 4: him but watch For Chase dolander because his stuff is,
Speaker 4: ridiculous great. Slider the other, one huge Name Travis. Bizana
Speaker 4: and the Reason i'm Throwing bazana in. Here they've got
Speaker 4: no second. Basement this team the traded andrews him in is.
Speaker 4: Away you could see that right. NOW i, MEAN i
Speaker 4: shouldn't say That wombrito is a, guy but he is
Speaker 4: currently your roster. Resource second. BASEMENT i think that leaves
Speaker 4: open the opportunity For bazana to have. That he did
Speaker 4: not have the, craziest biggest, debut BUT i think he
Speaker 4: is as close to major league. Ready it enables. Them,
Speaker 4: Again we've talked ABOUT ppi a, lot but these teams
Speaker 4: you get more bonus, pool you get an extra. Pick
Speaker 4: why not pro college BAT i Think bizana could jump.
Speaker 4: Levels you could maybe see A Jackson holiday type of.
Speaker 4: SITUATION i guess he didn't get To TRIPLE, a so
Speaker 4: it's not the, same BUT i could see him breaking
Speaker 4: camp and being the second. Baseman so, really just put
Speaker 4: a marker in both of those guys if we get
Speaker 4: bigger camp words that they could be breaking the. Team
Speaker 4: that happened With Julio. Rodriguez if you, remember no one
Speaker 4: thought he could break camp and then all of a
Speaker 4: sudden he. Did dolander And bazana are my two to
Speaker 4: keep an eye.
Speaker 1: On all, Right, jeff you've got To Quinn, matthews starting
Speaker 1: pitcher of The Saint Louis cardinals, organization And Thomas, harrington
Speaker 1: another pitcher in The pittsburgh. System Quinn, matthews real, quick
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about both these, guys but give me
Speaker 1: the lowdown on these guys real. Quick and Also Quinn
Speaker 1: matthew's a guy That i'm very excited. About this is
Speaker 1: a tough lefty right. Here this is a guy would
Speaker 1: strike out potential and certainly an organization looking to get
Speaker 1: better in that rotation because last year the average age
Speaker 1: of that ROTATION i feel like was forty two years.
Speaker 1: Old it was.
Speaker 2: Crazy, yeah and it's not.
Speaker 3: Bad and he's a little bit of you, know older
Speaker 3: of a, prospect you, know spent four years At, stanford
Speaker 3: was drafted By tampa in twenty, two went back To,
Speaker 3: stanford of, course had sort of a heroic performance and
Speaker 3: you know the regionals WHERE i think he threw like
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty eight pitches or something like.
Speaker 2: That it's a guy with a rubber.
Speaker 3: Arm he goes deep into, games got into pro development
Speaker 3: and immediately went from sitting eighty nine to ninety one
Speaker 3: to ninety four to ninety five consistently with ride and good,
Speaker 3: shape all the power on his other. Secondaries he's got
Speaker 3: a really good, slider he's got an excellent change. Up
Speaker 3: just missed the best change ups on my list in
Speaker 3: the top one. Hundred probably could have put him out.
Speaker 3: There you, know struggled a little bit In TRIPLE. A
Speaker 3: he sort of, said, like you, know adjusting to the
Speaker 3: zone and the challenge system and just a long. Season you,
Speaker 3: know some of that ticked down really, cerebral AND i
Speaker 3: think that you look at where The cardinals are at right.
Speaker 3: Now they don't want to say it out, loud but
Speaker 3: they are in a. Rebuild they are at a, point you,
Speaker 3: know they have a very, young homegrown.
Speaker 2: Lineup it's a matter of letting those guys get.
Speaker 3: Opportunities you, know they're trying to Move Noan, aeronata which
Speaker 3: is going to open up more space for some young.
Speaker 3: PLAYERS i think Ultimately Eric fetti probably gets. Moved if
Speaker 3: they can get anything for, me they probably. Would he
Speaker 3: could Get. DFAID i, MEAN i think you have a
Speaker 3: lot of these situations where you're looking at this. Rotation
Speaker 3: you got a thirty five year Old Sonny, gray you
Speaker 3: got you, know a thirty, six thirty seven year Old
Speaker 3: miles meek list a thirty, three thirty four year Old Steven.
Speaker 3: Matts matt certainly hasn't had the best track record of
Speaker 3: health over the course of his, career dating back to
Speaker 3: when he was A mets prospect AND i think you
Speaker 3: look At matthews and though they have some other names
Speaker 3: on the forty man, roster the guys ahead of, him
Speaker 3: pitchers like Tink hence and you, know To CooA robi
Speaker 3: who neither of those guys have ever been able to
Speaker 3: finish the season. Healthy SUMMER bersi where there's major question
Speaker 3: marks around how effective he could be against major league.
Speaker 3: Competition michael, McGreevey who just lacks sort of substantial, upside
Speaker 3: but could probably be a pretty decent eatings innings eater
Speaker 3: at the back end of this. Rotation you, KNOW i
Speaker 3: just look at this team AND i think With Quinn,
Speaker 3: matthews we could be looking, at you, know an organization
Speaker 3: that's in. Flux some of these guys move, out and
Speaker 3: an opportunity at any point between Like may And july
Speaker 3: could open.
Speaker 2: Up and this guy's in the big.
Speaker 3: LEAGUES i don't think he's going to break camp unless
Speaker 3: there is a catastrophic injury to one of these, pitchers
Speaker 3: and THEN i think the game is really on and
Speaker 3: there could be an opportunity at that point in.
Speaker 1: Time and then With, harrington is that a guy that
Speaker 1: Like Jared, jones would have get moved on from for
Speaker 1: him to see time this.
Speaker 3: YEAR i Think harrington is just more, like you, know
Speaker 3: how effective Is Bailey.
Speaker 2: Faulter we talked about the back end of that.
Speaker 3: ROTATION i really think the strength of The pirates is
Speaker 3: the fact that they, have you, know sort of this
Speaker 3: these five young pitchers that are all really. Good harrington
Speaker 3: is a little BIT i, mean they have three stuff,
Speaker 3: monsters right like you look At Bubba Jaken, schemes you
Speaker 3: look At. Jones those guys are huge stuff throw. Hard
Speaker 3: harrington is a little bit more on the pitchability. Side
Speaker 3: harrington's a little bit more on the deception. Side he's
Speaker 3: going to. Execute his stuff is, fine but it's not.
Speaker 3: Elite but he's kind of one of those guys that
Speaker 3: can lull you to. Sleep and then you, know five innings,
Speaker 3: in you're, like this guy's giving up one, run three
Speaker 3: hits in a, walk and you know he's at seventy
Speaker 3: five pitches or something like.
Speaker 2: That really, efficient.
Speaker 3: Really, effective and you, KNOW i think could kind of
Speaker 3: be a little bit of a sleeper later in like you,
Speaker 3: know YOUR dc. Draft he's a guy That i'm maybe
Speaker 3: taking a shot on around forty five to fifty those
Speaker 3: late rounds where you're kind of just trying to grab
Speaker 3: somebody who might be an upside.
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