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Speaker 5: rock today with Patrick Noci Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah Standback,
Speaker 5: Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman. So glad
Speaker 5: you're with us. Yes, free agency is upon us. The
Speaker 5: legal Tampa tampering period is here, and the Cowboys more
Speaker 5: active than they have been in the past, but still
Speaker 5: probably left a lot to be desired over the last
Speaker 5: twenty four hours or so, and we're gonna break it
Speaker 5: all down. They've made some moves. You're gonna talk about
Speaker 5: those moves, but we're also gonna talk about what could
Speaker 5: be next.
Speaker 3: If anything, for the Cowboys, tampering's over. It's time to pamper. Tampering.
Speaker 5: No pampering, no pamper, no tamper, damp Tampa, no tamper,
Speaker 5: no tampa pamper.
Speaker 3: There you go, no tampa.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 5: That comes on March eleventh. We got we got another
Speaker 5: twenty four hours no power. But cowboys make a couple moves.
Speaker 7: I don't want to damper your pamper. Don't damper my
Speaker 7: pamper on the tamper, on the tamper, or hamper.
Speaker 3: The pamper that you're attempting to tamper.
Speaker 5: All of our audios. Our audio listeners just turned us off.
Speaker 5: If you're still around, thank you.
Speaker 3: I appreciate.
Speaker 5: They're like, okay, this and this is what type of
Speaker 5: day what we do? Patrick, no Sewalker, You've had your
Speaker 5: finger on the.
Speaker 3: Pulse of Cowboys tampering period.
Speaker 5: Who if they decided to pamper going into this twenty
Speaker 5: sixth season.
Speaker 8: Well let's start with literally who they decided to pamper.
Speaker 8: They agreed to termined one year deal with Sam Williams.
Speaker 8: So Sam Williams is remaining in the building on a
Speaker 8: yeah you just called it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a Baryeah. I don't know where you were
Speaker 3: headed with that, but now I go, we got there,
Speaker 3: we got we got there.
Speaker 8: Sam Williams back on a one year deal for three
Speaker 8: million dollars key special teams got for the Cowboys. But
Speaker 8: we're not going to pretend that he doesn't need to
Speaker 8: show something on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 9: But this new system fits him though, it does I
Speaker 9: mean the type of well, yeah, the type of player
Speaker 9: that yes, I'll say that right, yeah, if there was
Speaker 9: a choice between a four to three and a three four,
Speaker 9: this is the system that he will want to be in.
Speaker 9: So I know we've been hard in regards to, you know, analytically, you.
Speaker 3: Know, going after you know, Sam Williams.
Speaker 9: But that's because he, in my opinion, did not fit
Speaker 9: a four to three type defensive end. He is a
Speaker 9: three to four outside linebacker. This system should bode well
Speaker 9: for him.
Speaker 10: He was asked he was thrown into the Mike Zimmer defense.
Speaker 10: He was thrown into my gosh, ever flews his defense.
Speaker 10: So yeah, maybe it might not have suited him as well.
Speaker 10: But I think there's a lot of concerns there as
Speaker 10: far as just personal fouls. I think that's one of
Speaker 10: the things that you have to consider. I mean, he
Speaker 10: has nine point five sacks in his career, but nine
Speaker 10: personal fouls.
Speaker 3: And that's the big thing.
Speaker 10: And that's the big thing. He's got to be able
Speaker 10: to mature. I mean, granted, they're giving him another shot.
Speaker 10: It's a you know, three I'm sorry, one year deal,
Speaker 10: three million dollars. That's interesting, But I'd say there are
Speaker 10: better moves that were made yesterday.
Speaker 8: There were that price tags a bit high for a
Speaker 8: special teams player that needs to show himself on defense
Speaker 8: and show that you can either impact it positively on
Speaker 8: defense or at least that minimum not impacted negatively on defense.
Speaker 8: But that's the Sam Williams equation. Hopefully he shows up
Speaker 8: this year in a big way. We obviously hope that
Speaker 8: these guys do. But we're also going to tell you
Speaker 8: what the real is, bigger news to what Josh is saying.
Speaker 8: First of all, Cowboys started off legal time Pree not
Speaker 8: with a free agency signing.
Speaker 3: But with a trade.
Speaker 8: Cowboys traded for Packers former Packers and rusher Rashawn Gary.
Speaker 8: The Cowboys were able to get him for a fourth
Speaker 8: round pick from the twenty twenty seven NFL Draft. Lock
Speaker 8: so the Cowboys are at the moment absorbing that contract
Speaker 8: with a base salary of eighteen million dollars this year.
Speaker 8: But the expectation is that will be reworked. So I
Speaker 8: need you to open your eyes slope. There you go,
Speaker 8: There you go. It is not the expectation that he
Speaker 8: will play this season under the Packers contract that the
Speaker 8: Cowboys are inheriting. So there's a handshake agreement there, but
Speaker 8: it is only twenty four hours after that trade was
Speaker 8: agreed to. But it can't be finalized until Wednesday anyway,
Speaker 8: so you're not going to see a reworked contract until
Speaker 8: the trade could be finalized.
Speaker 3: So keep that in mind, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 8: Legal tampering is yesterday or today tomorrow when the league
Speaker 8: year opens at four pm Eastern time, everything becomes final
Speaker 8: and then you can start reworking contracts like that. So
Speaker 8: Rashan Gary in the building splash play for the Cowboys
Speaker 8: to get him for Christian Parker in this new system,
Speaker 8: and then they went and made another splash play.
Speaker 3: They jumped all the way to safety. We talked about.
Speaker 8: Isaiah and Joshua of the ILK that safety is slightly
Speaker 8: more important the linebacker Kyl and I on the other
Speaker 8: side of that.
Speaker 3: But they went to Jalen Thompson.
Speaker 8: So they signed Jalen Thompson, former Arizona card and they
Speaker 8: spent several seasons with guess who, Ryan Smith, the secondary
Speaker 8: coach now here in Dallas, so obviously you knew who
Speaker 8: stood on that table. Ryan for Jalen Thompson. Loved Jalen
Speaker 8: Thompson's versatility. He's played free safety in his past with
Speaker 8: the Cardinals, but he is now a strong safety with
Speaker 8: the versatility to be able to cover. Someone posted some
Speaker 8: clips yesterday of his range. Insane. His range is absolutely insane.
Speaker 8: They got him on a three year, thirty six million
Speaker 8: dollar max deal, so he's here. They also Restructuredik Hooker,
Speaker 8: which saves them two million dollars against the cap. But
Speaker 8: in restructuring Malik Hooker, anyone who was asking if Malie
Speaker 8: Hooker will be in the building this year, that means
Speaker 8: he will be in the building. They're not restructuring the
Speaker 8: player that they're going to release or trade or any
Speaker 8: of those things. So as it stands, your starting safety
Speaker 8: unit is Malik Hooker at free and Jalen Thompson coming
Speaker 8: in at strong. What does that mean for Donovan Wilson.
Speaker 8: Likely means that Donovan Wilson is going to be playing
Speaker 8: elsewhere going forward because they did not give Jalen Thompson
Speaker 8: a thirty six million dollar contract for him to play
Speaker 8: in rotation or back up to anybody.
Speaker 3: So there you go, writing on the wall there, right
Speaker 3: is on the wall there.
Speaker 8: They also restructured the deal on Terrence Steele, So anyone
Speaker 8: knowing on this PA, because we knew they want to
Speaker 8: keep Terrence Steele. They saved nine million dollars toward the
Speaker 8: salary cap by restructuring Terrence Steele. So he's going to
Speaker 8: be Yeah, he's going to be your starting right tackle
Speaker 8: going forward.
Speaker 3: And it's a cheaper deal, and it is much cheaper
Speaker 3: deal for Dallas.
Speaker 5: It makes him the sixteenth highest paid offensive tackle in football,
Speaker 5: which if you're looking at his production and the pay
Speaker 5: that he's going.
Speaker 3: To have, it's about right. It's commensurate. Are those that's
Speaker 3: about right?
Speaker 10: Are those details finalizers that have to wait till Wednesday
Speaker 10: as well?
Speaker 3: No, can be fine, restructures can be done now.
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, yeah, because that's under contract, that's freedom captain got.
Speaker 7: But it's not a pay cut NECESSI No, it is.
Speaker 3: Not a page. It's just reorganized from a reorganizing.
Speaker 8: It's giving it's liquid any more funds for him upfront,
Speaker 8: but allowing the Cowboys to get cap reliefs. Same is
Speaker 8: what we talked about last week with Dak Prescott, Ceedee
Speaker 8: lamb uh Tyler Smith. So, and they still have something
Speaker 8: that they could restructure. Oh so Diggy Zoo is a
Speaker 8: big one that's steering you right in the face if
Speaker 8: you need to make that move and pull that trigger
Speaker 8: and restructure and get cap savings without his permission. Since
Speaker 8: we last spoke, the Cowboys have issued a second round tender.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of news and notes before flying through it.
Speaker 8: Second round tender on both branded Aubrey and TJ Bass
Speaker 8: at five point six million dollars per point of clarity
Speaker 8: for those that may not know. With the second round tender,
Speaker 8: Cowboys have the right to first refusal. If a team
Speaker 8: makes an offer to one of those two guys Aubrey
Speaker 8: or Brett or Bass, the Cowboys can look at that
Speaker 8: offer choose to match it. If they choose to match it,
Speaker 8: they have the right to retain the player if they
Speaker 8: choose to not match it, and the player leaves whatever
Speaker 8: team they go to, Cowboys get a second round pick
Speaker 8: as compensation for that loss. So again that's Aubrey and Bass,
Speaker 8: no second round tender or any tender on one Ya
Speaker 8: Thomas or brock Kaufman. I'm kind of surprising on brock Kaufman,
Speaker 8: but I from a logistics standpoint, While I don't like it,
Speaker 8: I understand it because then you're paying five point six
Speaker 8: million dollars for what they determined to be the seventh
Speaker 8: offensive lineman. I think TJ. Bass is the seventh offensive lineman.
Speaker 8: So that's where they and I disagree. But for the
Speaker 8: sake of explaining why they didn't tender both, that's why
Speaker 8: they didn't tender both.
Speaker 5: I think there's a little bit more league wide interesting TJ.
Speaker 3: Bass. I couldn't agree with that.
Speaker 5: Then for brock hoton what we're hearing, and you can
Speaker 5: still resign brock Hoffmann, you still work a deal and
Speaker 5: bring him back.
Speaker 3: He's a little upset on the moment though.
Speaker 5: Yeah he's a little upset, But we'll talk about that
Speaker 5: later when it comes to when it comes to TJ.
Speaker 5: Bass though, That's why I think it came down to
Speaker 5: those two guys, and they had to put a second
Speaker 5: round tender on one, not both, and they said, let's
Speaker 5: go with TJ. Bass because we feel like there's a
Speaker 5: better opportunity to bring Hoffmann back in the building than
Speaker 5: it might be for TJ. Bass to return, and you're
Speaker 5: gonna do it to Aubrey to protect your rights there
Speaker 5: and make sure that you have one of the best
Speaker 5: kickers in the league under contract.
Speaker 8: Now, to wrap up news and notes as well I
Speaker 8: can considering what all we got going, Cowboys also were
Speaker 8: awarded two compensatory picks for the twenty twenty six NFL Draft,
Speaker 8: both in the fifth round, one seventy seventh overall and
Speaker 8: one eightieth overall. Those picks can be traded, okay, so
Speaker 8: the Cowboys can use those as sweeteners for whatever package
Speaker 8: they might have that maybe gets them back into the
Speaker 8: second or third round or whatever trade they might want
Speaker 8: to do on trade day or prior to. So that's
Speaker 8: the news and notes Cowboys. I'm not even gonna say
Speaker 8: they missed out on Max Cross because I agree not
Speaker 8: giving the two first rounds Rosby, but they definitely went
Speaker 8: all the way to the finish line with that. And
Speaker 8: then Baltimore was like, yeah, we're just we're willing to
Speaker 8: do it, and I agree with the Cowboys not being
Speaker 8: willing to do it, which led to Rashawn Gary. Questions
Speaker 8: are being asked to me, Well, no, see with the
Speaker 8: Rashawn Gary acquisition, are they out on Trey Hendrickson as
Speaker 8: we have this conversation, They are not out on trade Hendrickson.
Speaker 8: They are out on thirty million dollars for trade Hendrickson.
Speaker 8: But if that price can come down kind of commensurate
Speaker 8: to some concerns about if he's ready to go, if
Speaker 8: he will be ready to go medically after that.
Speaker 7: Injury, I think, which apparently he is.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think a deal can be struck. They're still
Speaker 8: working the Tredy Hendrickson angle. So you if all things
Speaker 8: work out how the Cowboys would love them to, you
Speaker 8: might end up with both Gary and Hendrickson. And then
Speaker 8: you still they whipped on the linebacker.
Speaker 3: Oh man, Yeah, that was a time, all right.
Speaker 5: So before we get too far into this, before we
Speaker 5: get to get too far into this, I want to
Speaker 5: talk about the Rashan Gary trade. I want to talk
Speaker 5: about that. When it comes to Rashan Gary, you you
Speaker 5: trade a fourth.
Speaker 3: Round pick, and I put this out there yesterday.
Speaker 5: Dallas has been very recently willing to trade fourth round
Speaker 5: picks for.
Speaker 3: Players they're pretty loose with him.
Speaker 5: Arguably, Yeah, three times in the last four years, Trey Lance,
Speaker 5: Jonathan Mingo. Now you've got Rashan Gary. This is out
Speaker 5: of those three the best chance for the for the
Speaker 5: player to end up being an impact player for your team.
Speaker 3: I see a lot of pushback.
Speaker 5: Though, on Twitter and on the social media side of
Speaker 5: things from Cowboys fans about Rashaan Gary. Remember, this is
Speaker 5: not the the blue chip edge rusher that I think
Speaker 5: everybody won it. But is he a good football player? Absolutely?
Speaker 5: Is he better than what you had on this roster
Speaker 5: last year. Absolutely? I think he is your best pass
Speaker 5: rusher outside of maybe Donovan Azaraku and we'll talk about
Speaker 5: Jadavian Clowney at some point down the line. Either one
Speaker 5: of those guys I think is better. I mean, you
Speaker 5: got a really solid starting caliber edge rusher slash defensive
Speaker 5: lineman because he's probably gonna play a lot of that
Speaker 5: four I spot in Christian Parker's defense. So I don't
Speaker 5: want to knock on that. The knock I think is
Speaker 5: where people are assuming Dallas is done.
Speaker 3: Now they oh, they've missed out on all these guys.
Speaker 5: They missed out on these players, they missed out on
Speaker 5: free agency in general. That's where the frustration lies. Josh,
Speaker 5: and I feel like it might be fair in some elements. Linebacker,
Speaker 5: I think it's.
Speaker 3: Fair they've missed out on linebacker.
Speaker 5: Yes, but with the edge rusher possibilities that are still
Speaker 5: on the table and some of these other secondary players,
Speaker 5: I don't think they're done yet. And I still get
Speaker 5: the feeling that they're going to work something out in
Speaker 5: a couple of those areas. It may have to be
Speaker 5: trades now as opposed to free agency. But I just
Speaker 5: don't think Rashan Garry is your number one move. But
Speaker 5: right now people.
Speaker 3: Are thinking that's going to be the number one No.
Speaker 10: Of course, it was the first thing that you did.
Speaker 10: It was one of the first stories to come out
Speaker 10: of Day one of free agency or legal tampering. So
Speaker 10: I understand that respect. I understand people being frustrated. I
Speaker 10: was frustrated at the end of the day because of
Speaker 10: the linebacker situation. I think that the trade for Rashon Gary. Granted,
Speaker 10: if you ask any Packers fan, they're like, oh, we
Speaker 10: fleeced the Cowboys.
Speaker 7: Okay, paying Micah Parsons.
Speaker 10: Oh no, no, But the best ability availability is ability
Speaker 10: is availability. At least for Rashon Gary, who started sixteen
Speaker 10: of seventeen games, played six hundred and sixteen snaps without
Speaker 10: missing a tackle, the second most in a season since
Speaker 10: twenty eighteen.
Speaker 7: He had seven point.
Speaker 10: Five sacks, which, paired with a Jadevian clowning from last year,
Speaker 10: would have been a savior. That would have been amazing
Speaker 10: to have a guy like that on your team last year.
Speaker 3: Huge.
Speaker 10: Granted, do you think that he obviously benefited from a
Speaker 10: Micah Parsons playing alongside Michah Parsons throughout.
Speaker 7: The year last year.
Speaker 10: I think it's not just a rotational guy. I think
Speaker 10: he's a starting caliber outside linebacker, defensive end, whatever you
Speaker 10: want to call it in the scheme, but they're using
Speaker 10: primarily on the left side, and I think more than anything,
Speaker 10: they're looking at his run defense abilities and paired with
Speaker 10: Jalen Thompson, who is also very versatile and is able
Speaker 10: to play at the line of scrimmage and is great
Speaker 10: against the run, I think it's just a it's more
Speaker 10: of a philosophy that they're trying to improve that side
Speaker 10: of the ball and be sure tacklers. Both of these
Speaker 10: guys are that. I don't think this is saying that
Speaker 10: we're done with free agency. It can't be that way,
Speaker 10: because they were trying really hard to get a linebacker yesterday.
Speaker 7: It just didn't swing our way.
Speaker 10: Not that I'm making excuses for it, because I think
Speaker 10: if you want a guy desperately enough, you do what
Speaker 10: you can to go get him. That's why Trey Hendrickson
Speaker 10: is still on the board. I'm like, Okay, guys, go
Speaker 10: get him. I almost don't care what it takes. I
Speaker 10: don't want to go thirty million, and he's not coming
Speaker 10: off of that number right now. But seriously, I think
Speaker 10: if you want a total facelift of your defense, that's
Speaker 10: what you need to do.
Speaker 8: I think when I agree with what you're saying, and I
Speaker 8: feel like when it comes to the Rashawn Gary move,
Speaker 8: I think what the Rashaan Gary move does for you
Speaker 8: is a few things. First of all, this is a
Speaker 8: guy who has what twenty four sacks. If you're only
Speaker 8: using if you're one of those people who only use
Speaker 8: sex as a measurement for success as an edge wresser,
Speaker 8: you also shouldn't do that. But Okay, let me just
Speaker 8: give you a crumb today. He had twenty four sacks
Speaker 8: through the past three seasons. He averaged seven and a
Speaker 8: half over the past two seasons. He's the definition of
Speaker 8: consistency in that category as well as durability. He played
Speaker 8: in seventeen full regular season games of twenty twenty four,
Speaker 8: fifteen starts out of sixteen games that he was active
Speaker 8: in twenty twenty five, so you're getting that as well.
Speaker 8: I do agree with Kyle. Do I look at Rashan
Speaker 8: Gary as the well?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 8: I don't look at him as the well. I look
Speaker 8: at him as a very good football player who is
Speaker 8: good at rushing the pastor at pastor and at stopping
Speaker 8: the run, who if combined with another move Trey Hendrickson ideally,
Speaker 8: But if you don't get Trey Hendrickson, then you know
Speaker 8: there's a guy in Miami I would like to tandem
Speaker 8: with in addition to Donovan nezro Rocku. I just feel like,
Speaker 8: and I agree with both your points. Rashaun Gary isn't
Speaker 8: the end all be all to resolve the issue at
Speaker 8: the edge, but he can be with a plus one.
Speaker 3: The question is who's the plus one?
Speaker 8: My bigger concern with the Cowboys is and again not
Speaker 8: for lack of effort, because we're here in the building.
Speaker 3: We know for a fact they went hard at linebacker yesterday.
Speaker 3: They went making calls. Yeah, it's crazy, just didn't just
Speaker 3: didn't go.
Speaker 5: What happened to your dog?
Speaker 12: Man?
Speaker 3: We need to talk. What happened to Kobe? What are
Speaker 3: you doing? All right? What are you doing? He chose
Speaker 3: a two win team? What do you what are you doing? Yeah,
Speaker 3: let's talk about it. You get your dog here? Rough? Rough?
Speaker 3: What are we doing? What we do? Listen? I did
Speaker 3: all the I did all the you know.
Speaker 7: Put the feelers out there.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 5: Maybe tweets were what sent him away.
Speaker 3: This guy, the star guy. We possibly you got no
Speaker 3: urges with everybody got no sea.
Speaker 9: That's right, former former Bulldog. Yeah you have his former coach.
Speaker 7: You can't say it today.
Speaker 9: Who's calling the plays on that side of the ball?
Speaker 9: And neither of those was good enough to get him here?
Speaker 9: What the heck? I'm going to tell you what happened,
Speaker 9: No doubt, all jokes aside. I was like, n Kobe,
Speaker 9: what are you doing? So, you know, kind of called around,
Speaker 9: texted around, you know, because George is a family baby,
Speaker 9: Thus dogs find out what the family just like so
Speaker 9: word is because of how the Raiders set the table
Speaker 9: with keeping Eric Stokes and getting kay Walker his teammates, yeah,
Speaker 9: former teammates from Georgia Championship. You know Natty Winners so
Speaker 9: so with his friends instead of when you want.
Speaker 7: J Allen whatever you need to come on.
Speaker 8: Maybe, but all jokes aside. Man, I wish to Kobe
Speaker 8: nothing but the best, and he did not. You know,
Speaker 8: he left the rival. He didn't go to another rival,
Speaker 8: So okay, cool, but you know it did it did
Speaker 8: sting because it was right there. The money was was
Speaker 8: comparable chid rebas here, Robert muss Champs here, George Pickens
Speaker 8: is still in the building.
Speaker 3: Nikobe, what are you doing?
Speaker 9: You know, I honestly wasn't sad about what do you think?
Speaker 9: I mean, you're just just playing around. But I was
Speaker 9: sad about missing out on Lloyd, was sad about missing
Speaker 9: out on Little.
Speaker 3: I mean, those buffalos.
Speaker 8: Got how'd you feel about Quincy Quincy Williams Quinn's brother.
Speaker 9: Oh that didn't bother me, didn't bother No, that didn't
Speaker 9: bother me. I like Azeloni.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, he flew off to man what's that run
Speaker 8: on linebacker started?
Speaker 9: It was those those those three really in particular, it
Speaker 9: was really Lloyd Little and then as a loon.
Speaker 5: And I think the league looks at it that way too,
Speaker 5: which is why they flew off the board as quickly
Speaker 5: as they did.
Speaker 3: I mean there was really no.
Speaker 5: Room for error on one side or the other, not
Speaker 5: just one team, not just the Cowboys. I mean teams
Speaker 5: were hunting linebacker and you could see that. What did
Speaker 5: you think about the Gary side?
Speaker 9: I thought it was a good trade. As you guys mentioned,
Speaker 9: you know, nothing that's jumping off the board. But what
Speaker 9: I think the angle that the Cowboys are taking, I
Speaker 9: think they're they're stuck between old times and the new
Speaker 9: wave right now. I think that they're they're still trying
Speaker 9: to be on the Stephen Jones. Let's let's save a
Speaker 9: couple of dollars in our pocket, you know, not necessarily
Speaker 9: bargain shopping.
Speaker 3: But it's like a it's like a poll.
Speaker 9: It's like, hey, I know I need to do more
Speaker 9: than what I've done, but I still don't want to
Speaker 9: empty the bag so much. I think that they're going
Speaker 9: to have more depth than they've ever had. I'm just
Speaker 9: not sure that they're going to have the star players
Speaker 9: that everybody is hoping to see, especially now that free
Speaker 9: agent has passed. I foresee them making one more depth
Speaker 9: move at the I would say probably two more moves.
Speaker 9: I think they're going to add a linebacker. I think
Speaker 9: they're going to add another outside linebacker slash d n uh.
Speaker 9: But I don't think that's going to be a big
Speaker 9: splash player. I think it's gonna be a consistent player,
Speaker 9: somebody who makes contributions. And I think that they're really
Speaker 9: kind of have to. They're going to be forced to
Speaker 9: turn their attention to consistency versus one splash, And I
Speaker 9: think that they're really torn between, Well, we had a
Speaker 9: Micah in the building who was the big splash, and
Speaker 9: we've seen what that did for our overall defense. Okay,
Speaker 9: a heck of a player, but they made a hard
Speaker 9: line decision to go away from that, right, to go
Speaker 9: away from dumping the money into one player, so that
Speaker 9: they can have the money to have depth right in
Speaker 9: rotation and have consistency. So I think that they're really
Speaker 9: torn between should we go back to that, we find
Speaker 9: ourselves going back towards the Mica stuff.
Speaker 3: No, we can't do that. We already had that guy
Speaker 3: in the building.
Speaker 9: So let's go ahead and let's add to depth and
Speaker 9: add consistency. So we could have three or four guys
Speaker 9: that are able to come in and play. And no,
Speaker 9: they might not all individually be splashed players and can
Speaker 9: be absolutely dominant, but collectively as a defense, we could
Speaker 9: be one heck of a unit if we have consistency
Speaker 9: across the board. So I think they really keep getting
Speaker 9: in that tug of war, right like you know, you
Speaker 9: mentioned that they try to go out to somebody's line backers.
Speaker 9: You know, I don't think they're going to overpay at
Speaker 9: the defensive and slash outside linebacker position Gary. As you
Speaker 9: guys mentioned, they're going to rework that contract. So I
Speaker 9: think that they're really going to add two or three
Speaker 9: more pieces for depth and consistency and then go hard
Speaker 9: with their first round picks on a defensive side. So
Speaker 9: I think that you're still going to see a completely
Speaker 9: different defense. It's just not going to be ooh, you
Speaker 9: better watch that player. He can kill us.
Speaker 10: But I would argue that the depth pieces that you
Speaker 10: would want to add to your defense currently have been
Speaker 10: eliminated a bit because in day one. You know, it
Speaker 10: wasn't necessarily the big splash players. I mean we're talking
Speaker 10: about Lloyd and Little who didn't necessarily command like giant contracts,
Speaker 10: I think, like very doable contracts for what the Cowboys
Speaker 10: are trying to do to still be able to pay
Speaker 10: George Pickens and you know, a lot of your franchise
Speaker 10: players in the future. But to have those guys go
Speaker 10: off day one and not make the hard enough push
Speaker 10: to make it happen to me is disappointing. I think
Speaker 10: that as far as linebacker goes, yesterday was a really
Speaker 10: really tough set.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think.
Speaker 8: I mean, if we had to offer up a grade,
Speaker 8: I think yesterday was was a c uh.
Speaker 3: They got off to the races. Yeah, they got off.
Speaker 5: To the give it like a B B minus B
Speaker 5: B minus. I mean you got starting, safety starting, and
Speaker 5: Thompson is an A. Like those are two guys that
Speaker 5: are better than Thompson is an A where Shaun Gary
Speaker 5: is a B plus. But I can't give Gary an
Speaker 5: A because I literally just said here and said you
Speaker 5: need a plus one to complete.
Speaker 3: That package, which I agree.
Speaker 8: So if you need a plus one, if this is Thompson,
Speaker 8: I don't think you need the plus one to complete
Speaker 8: the Jaalen Thompson move.
Speaker 3: So it's an A.
Speaker 8: But if you need any type of sweetener for the move,
Speaker 8: then it can't be an A. So that will be
Speaker 8: let's say a B plus. So if I give an
Speaker 8: AID to Jalen Thompson, Jayalen Thompson signing.
Speaker 3: You can B plus? Did Gary?
Speaker 8: And I got to give you an f O linebacker
Speaker 8: because you nothing was addressed there?
Speaker 3: So I land right at sea.
Speaker 5: But it's also day one, No, I agree, I say
Speaker 5: it's day one.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of names.
Speaker 8: If I'm great yesterday, if I'm grading yesterday, I didn't
Speaker 8: say it. I'm grading free agency. Sure agency is not over.
Speaker 8: But if I'm grading yesterday, yesterday's a C. Let's see
Speaker 8: what the moves are today. But I will losso admit
Speaker 8: Josh has has a great point some of the depth,
Speaker 8: especially at linebacker. There was such a run on linebackers
Speaker 8: that and I think everyone who follows me on Twitter
Speaker 8: saw when I said Sonny or cj also Rodriguez, I'm
Speaker 8: into that as well. Come on down because now there's
Speaker 8: been such a run at linebacker and free agency, which
Speaker 8: now anyone you sign outside of some type of blockbuster
Speaker 8: linebacker trade. Now you start looking at the draft and
Speaker 8: you start looking at twelve or twenty.
Speaker 5: At that pisode, and maybe other teams don't necessarily need
Speaker 5: linebackers in front of you, and you.
Speaker 8: Have because there was a run on linebackers and free agency.
Speaker 5: Maybe all right, when we come back, I want to
Speaker 5: talk about what could be next for Dallas.
Speaker 3: What are the other moves that.
Speaker 5: They can get to make this feel better than what
Speaker 5: it has been.
Speaker 3: I still think that they're moving in the right direction.
Speaker 5: But as Isaiah talked about and I completely agree with,
Speaker 5: haven't necessarily emptied the bag quite yet. Let's talk about
Speaker 5: what they can do in order to do so. Plus,
Speaker 5: we're going to take a look around the NFC East
Speaker 5: as well. More talking cowboys right after this.
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Speaker 5: Continuing to talk about free agency right now, the Cowboys
Speaker 5: are twenty second out of thirty two teams in terms
Speaker 5: of free agent spending. Would anybody like to take a
Speaker 5: guess on who is number one on that list?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 5: Caroline, Carolina pen it is not a Carolina Panthers. They
Speaker 5: are third.
Speaker 3: Raiders.
Speaker 5: Tennessee Titans are number one, two hundred and eighty three
Speaker 5: million dollars on day one.
Speaker 3: What a Raiders number two?
Speaker 5: They are number two, two hundred and eighty one point
Speaker 5: five millions.
Speaker 3: Only one Derbaum, So.
Speaker 5: Two those two teams hit twot eighty. The Panthers are
Speaker 5: in third at one seventy two.
Speaker 3: Tell us. It's like dog on it.
Speaker 5: The amount of additions the Raiders made man was just wild.
Speaker 5: It's crazy to see how much they spent. Now, there
Speaker 5: is something in common for a lot of these teams.
Speaker 5: You take a look at the Raiders, the Titans, the Commanders,
Speaker 5: the Saints, the Colts, the Giants all in the top
Speaker 5: What is that seven teams of spending. All of those
Speaker 5: teams are picking in the top ten of the NFL Draft.
Speaker 5: So you've got all of those teams, Raiders, the Tigers,
Speaker 5: the Giants, the Commanders, the Saints. I don't believe one
Speaker 5: of those teams I named the Colts are not picking
Speaker 5: in the top ten, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So lots of spending from the bottom level teams in
Speaker 5: the draft and We're gonna take a look at what
Speaker 5: the NFC East did here in a couple of moments
Speaker 5: as well. But I want to talk take a look
Speaker 5: at some of the top one hundred free agents according
Speaker 5: to the NFL dot Com and who is still out
Speaker 5: there that could be a fit for Dallas.
Speaker 3: Oh, I got some guys. Got some guys. Tell me
Speaker 3: one you got.
Speaker 9: I mean, people are gonna get me like I'm crazy,
Speaker 9: But anyway, care I still want Bobby Wagner. Yeah, still
Speaker 9: want Bobby Wagner. Caleb Chase eight years old, absolutely still
Speaker 9: one of the top linebackers in the league. Bobby Wagner
Speaker 9: a coach on the field, a coach on the field, consistent,
Speaker 9: great person, great locker room guy, leader, just all those
Speaker 9: things he can still he still got some tread on
Speaker 9: on the tires.
Speaker 3: So I think you can get him for a very
Speaker 3: affordable at the number.
Speaker 10: I think that, and especially if you're drafting linebackers, what
Speaker 10: better pairing would it be to have a Bobby Wagner
Speaker 10: coaching these guys up. Like we said, literally a coach
Speaker 10: on the field to help these guys improve. I mean,
Speaker 10: like even for a guy like Shamar James, how crucial
Speaker 10: would that be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, b him.
Speaker 9: If you're gonna have a rotational veteran, that's that's one.
Speaker 9: Caleb on Chase on out of I agree with England.
Speaker 9: I like him a lot as well.
Speaker 5: That would be such a full circle most it would
Speaker 5: be so fully from twenty c Lamb Chase. That was
Speaker 5: the decision at seventeen. They go with c Ed Lamb
Speaker 5: best player available, not over the need of edge rusher
Speaker 5: which they needed, and then for him to just come
Speaker 5: on back after ceede Lamb's been an all pro. They
Speaker 5: get it right and then Caylevons gets a circle all
Speaker 5: the love see.
Speaker 3: That would be wild.
Speaker 7: Would you like that move?
Speaker 3: You know what? I would?
Speaker 5: I think it'd be fun because it would go into
Speaker 5: what you talked about a couple of weeks ago when
Speaker 5: we're talking about this three four scheme and switching from
Speaker 5: a four to three to a three four, even though
Speaker 5: they're going to run multiple I know there's that conversation two.
Speaker 5: You need versatile ed rushers, you need big bodied ed rushers,
Speaker 5: and that's what Calebon Jason can bring. So I think
Speaker 5: it would add to that room of edge rushers you
Speaker 5: need to compile. You've added it with Rashan, Gary Calebon
Speaker 5: Jason would be another depth piece. Is he your starter?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 5: Is he a rotational player? Absolutely, He's probably gonna play
Speaker 5: a lot of snaps for you.
Speaker 7: Of those listed, where does Kaden Ellis?
Speaker 5: I love Kayden Ellis phenomenal player and I mean you
Speaker 5: talk about him as one of the and I know
Speaker 5: NFL dot Com wrote about this. I completely agree, the
Speaker 5: most underrated players of his generation. And he's thirty one
Speaker 5: years old. He's established himself as a pass rushing linebacker.
Speaker 5: You can play him off ball, you can play them
Speaker 5: on ball, you can play him kind of in a
Speaker 5: number of different areas. Played a ton of snaps. I
Speaker 5: think it was what a thousand snaps over the last
Speaker 5: three seasons or so. Give me Kateen Ellis at the
Speaker 5: second level. I would love something like that two year,
Speaker 5: three year deal. Let's make a happen.
Speaker 7: Is he top of your list as far as linebackers go.
Speaker 5: As far as linebackers, probably, yeah, he'd probably be number
Speaker 5: one remaining out of the free agent list. I know
Speaker 5: there's the rumors of what they would do and possible
Speaker 5: trade scenarios. I would like those. That would be fun,
Speaker 5: but we can't talk about the specific players. Kate Ellis
Speaker 5: we can talk about says he's a free agent. Yeeah,
Speaker 5: he'd probably be my number one remaining out of city.
Speaker 5: He'd probably be right there. Yeah, I would give I
Speaker 5: would give the.
Speaker 3: Edge to Ellis though, I think he fits the system.
Speaker 10: Similarly, on NFL dot com, they were talking about his
Speaker 10: availability and you playing more than five hundred snaps in
Speaker 10: a year?
Speaker 7: Is he k doing something like that Shanalo?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah for me.
Speaker 8: And this is some of these guys that we're talking
Speaker 8: about that are still available made it to my open
Speaker 8: market series on Dallas Cowboys dot com.
Speaker 3: So I'm still mad at I'm still mad at.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: Chayson is one of those guys.
Speaker 8: So when we talked about adding the sweetener to the
Speaker 8: Gary deal, Chason would be that a sweetener. An example
Speaker 8: of that sweetener. You gotta address linebacker today. So, whether
Speaker 8: it be Ellis, whether it be Chanel, you gotta address linebacker.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go to cornerback because they didn't address that
Speaker 8: yesterday either.
Speaker 3: I want to Wreak Wooling.
Speaker 7: I like those words.
Speaker 5: I've always been Ak Woolling fan since he was a
Speaker 5: ut so found the freak baby bring him back to
Speaker 5: the lone star state.
Speaker 3: Let's do it's gonna cost you don't care shut up.
Speaker 5: Because he went to set he was.
Speaker 3: A back up.
Speaker 2: Bunny.
Speaker 3: Why he had fans wants the bag man, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think that you no, he's gonna get. I
Speaker 3: don't think you can get Wrek and and and the
Speaker 3: past rushing that you want. I don't think I don't
Speaker 3: even get both. I just don't.
Speaker 5: I just don't like your Seattle and super Bowl champion
Speaker 5: mine negating our dreams of getting a tall, linking, speedy corner.
Speaker 8: I don't meanly disagree that you can't do both things.
Speaker 3: Really you can do both things.
Speaker 8: An example being at the top of the show, I said,
Speaker 8: you know they restructured five guys to this point, right,
Speaker 8: No burgers. They there's one at least one sitting right
Speaker 8: in front of you that you haven't put a trigger
Speaker 8: on yet. Why haven't you put the trigger on restructuring
Speaker 8: oh yet? Because you don't need to yet. But in
Speaker 8: the event you need to, you're going to pull that.
Speaker 8: So let's say they get Trey Hendrickson, and let's say
Speaker 8: they can talk him down to I don't know. Let's
Speaker 8: say twenty eight whatever, just for the sake of math,
Speaker 8: I wouldn't do thirty But let's say they get.
Speaker 3: Would you be happy with?
Speaker 9: Honestly, would you guys be happy paying Trey Henderson twenty eight?
Speaker 3: Yes, as he was he's on your team. I'm fine, Yeah, because.
Speaker 7: You find a way to make it work.
Speaker 8: Aby say two things are true, which is to what
Speaker 8: I'm saying. You can finesse the salary cap. However you
Speaker 8: need to finess it. Teams do it all the time.
Speaker 8: In addition to it, it ain't my.
Speaker 5: Money's that's where it ain't my money. That's where my
Speaker 5: mind says. So I sat up here last week and
Speaker 5: told Cowboys fans and was very adamant about it. And
Speaker 5: I still believe this. By the way that I think
Speaker 5: this year is different from a spending standpoint. I think
Speaker 5: it is different from what I've heard from the front
Speaker 5: office and from what we've heard all the way around.
Speaker 5: And I still think they are willing to do something big.
Speaker 5: But at that point it might be thirty million for
Speaker 5: Trey Hendrickson.
Speaker 3: He's not going below.
Speaker 5: Do what you gotta do to make this team better
Speaker 5: and do exactly what Jerry said on the bus to
Speaker 5: us in Indianapolis. Wager the future, and that's the nice
Speaker 5: way of putting it. Listen, but wager the future and
Speaker 5: get a badass football player on your team and spend
Speaker 5: the money to do so. I still think they are
Speaker 5: tinkering on doing that, but they're just hesitant at the moment.
Speaker 5: But in this day and age of NFL free agency
Speaker 5: and the legal tampering period, hesitation gets you nothing. You
Speaker 5: cannot wait for this, make a move, forget about the future.
Speaker 5: Let's do this thing over the next two or three
Speaker 5: years and see what happened.
Speaker 8: Because here's what you don't want them to do, right,
Speaker 8: And this is not a shot a shot at either
Speaker 8: of these two guys, especially Javion Clwnty, because we on
Speaker 8: this show we love us some Jadaeveon Clowney. But if
Speaker 8: you can get Trey Hendrickson in lieu of breaking that
Speaker 8: money apart and saying, Okay, I'm going to bring back
Speaker 8: Fowler and Clowney and a third person. And then here's
Speaker 8: Jerry now spinning it and selling it how he has
Speaker 8: in the past and saying, well, instead of us pay Micah,
Speaker 8: we were able to get five different people. Could he
Speaker 8: could I don't want that to happen here. I say,
Speaker 8: you go and get trade I already said I don't
Speaker 8: want to pay trade thirty.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 8: But if they pay trade thirty, am I personally going
Speaker 8: to be upset? No, because he's on the roster, which
Speaker 8: was my goal and it ain't my money. And I
Speaker 8: know that you can pull more triggers to free up
Speaker 8: more cash to also get to wreak Willing and bring
Speaker 8: Wreek to Dallast.
Speaker 3: So yes, you can do all of those.
Speaker 9: Let me ask you this question, ask if you can
Speaker 9: wait until tomorrow and grab somebody for Miami for twenty.
Speaker 3: Who's somebody I don't think. I'm not sure. I can't
Speaker 3: say yeah, grab somebody out.
Speaker 7: Of Miami here, So just like go dogs, can't say
Speaker 7: it today.
Speaker 9: Hey, so grab that person for twenty and you go
Speaker 9: get a Reek and you get a line a contributing linebacker.
Speaker 3: Up one of the guys, like you get an l
Speaker 3: ass or all or something exactly. You're saying that you
Speaker 3: would prefer wait.
Speaker 8: The person you're talking about in Miami, are they on
Speaker 8: an expiring contract?
Speaker 3: They are going to most likely be if there's no
Speaker 3: deal done by tomorrow, will their contract.
Speaker 8: Expire, Well, they would already be. I'm trying to figure
Speaker 8: out what she's talking about without saying it on the air,
Speaker 8: and listen, I'll figure it out.
Speaker 3: It tax it to me.
Speaker 5: But you're saying, let's just say Edge Rusher twenty million dollars,
Speaker 5: a blue chip guy. Yeah, if you if you get
Speaker 5: him along with a starting caliber linebacker and a starting
Speaker 5: caliber corner, would you feel okay with that as opposed
Speaker 5: to Trey Hendrix.
Speaker 10: If you get Trey Hendrickson, I think you were much
Speaker 10: less worried about getting cleaned out at linebacker because then
Speaker 10: you can focus on the draft at that product.
Speaker 7: Okay, because you have those those high picks, you have
Speaker 7: two first round picks.
Speaker 10: I think you're able to make it work if you
Speaker 10: draft or if you sign at this and.
Speaker 7: Make it work with linebacker at this point.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yes, I like Henderson.
Speaker 9: I love his I love him, and I hate that
Speaker 9: what's happened to him in terms of his career and
Speaker 9: being screwed contractually. I wish the best for man, and
Speaker 9: maybe he'll be here. I personally, I okay, would much
Speaker 9: rather have are one of these with the gentlemen out
Speaker 9: of Miami that I like go get your corner right
Speaker 9: and get you a starting linebacker, and then use your
Speaker 9: first two picks in the draft to go get two
Speaker 9: more goons on defense that are young guns that can contribute.
Speaker 9: That's what I would like because now at that point
Speaker 9: you're in the higher defense.
Speaker 3: It's a holistic that you have no weaknesses at that point.
Speaker 8: Okay, right, no glern to answer your question, because brain
Speaker 8: funk it now. I know so because I thought the
Speaker 8: move had already been executed tomorrow. If the move is
Speaker 8: executed for the player that we're.
Speaker 5: Just being safe by the way, for everybody, see everybody
Speaker 5: in the chat, you got it.
Speaker 3: You guys know the name. That's the name we're talking about.
Speaker 8: So if we're just that's my mistake because I thought
Speaker 8: it had already been executed. But if that move is
Speaker 8: executed tomorrow when the new league year opens.
Speaker 3: To answer your question, yes.
Speaker 8: I am much more comfortable and I'm completely fine within
Speaker 8: lieu of Trede Hendrick saying you bring me this guy.
Speaker 3: As want something else.
Speaker 8: If you add Tarique Wooland or that's what I'm saying,
Speaker 8: or a shannalo or if you add that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but not by that by themselves.
Speaker 9: Yeah, what I'm saying that we said this is the
Speaker 9: beginning of the show. I believe that Dallas is halfway
Speaker 9: and halfway out of trying to go back to paying
Speaker 9: so much money for one player. Yes, I really think
Speaker 9: that they're torn between what they've done.
Speaker 3: And what they're unwilling to do.
Speaker 9: So I truly believe that they're waiting on this potential
Speaker 9: move to happen, and if they can't get that done,
Speaker 9: then they'll go do it.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 8: Okay, So as we have this conversation, I could see
Speaker 8: their thought process starting to maybe shift toward that, but
Speaker 8: it wasn't that effective last Friday or Saturday when they
Speaker 8: were ready to go hard, when they did go hard
Speaker 8: at Max Crosby, and then when that didn't pan out
Speaker 8: because I agree in not giving up two first rounds,
Speaker 8: they said, Okay, well, let's pivot to still talking to
Speaker 8: Troy Hendrickson, but let's go ahead and make this for
Speaker 8: Shawn Gary move in the event we also don't get
Speaker 8: Hendrickson knowing that Gary needs a sweetener. So if the
Speaker 8: sweetener is the guy from Miami, if that move is
Speaker 8: executed tomorrow and you address linebacker and or corner with
Speaker 8: not just a budget ben guy, but an actual starter. Yeah,
Speaker 8: that's how I would at this range. That's exactly how
Speaker 8: I'm looking at this. And I can see that playing out.
Speaker 8: I can see that.
Speaker 9: I can see that gentleman looking at what just happened
Speaker 9: yesterday with the trade with Dallas for Gary looking at
Speaker 9: there and saying, oh, he's over there.
Speaker 3: Bet, I'll come play on the opposite side.
Speaker 9: And oh, and you guys are gonna grab a linebacker,
Speaker 9: a starting linebacker.
Speaker 3: Oh bet. And oh and you're gonna go get a corner.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 9: I got a question, and we got and too, first
Speaker 9: run too, first rup, let's go.
Speaker 5: I got a question for the panel because I'm curious. Well,
Speaker 5: we got to take a break, so okay, we got
Speaker 5: to come back. We're gonna talk about Patrick's question here
Speaker 5: in a second. We're gonna take a look at the
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Speaker 5: to back funny co In the chat section, I liked
Speaker 5: this one. He said, it's legal tampering, guys. You can
Speaker 5: say which we cannot.
Speaker 9: We cannot you kill untill he's especially called protecting the
Speaker 9: team guys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, especially since he's still technically under contract. Even though
Speaker 5: the news is out that he will be released, we
Speaker 5: can't talk about it. And then he said, what future.
Speaker 5: Don't y'all watch the news with the laughing emoji? Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: that's fair, all right, let's wager the future.
Speaker 3: Right, all right? What was your question? Pat so question?
Speaker 8: We're sitting here, we're talking about this particular individual, which
Speaker 8: I think we all know who we're talking about now.
Speaker 8: In a scenario where not unlike Rashaun Gary, when teams
Speaker 8: know that this player is going to be released, there
Speaker 8: are obviously teams who are so willing to bust a budget.
Speaker 8: They're like, we're not going to trade him because we're
Speaker 8: willing to throw whatever bag at him.
Speaker 3: That's typically not the Cowboys.
Speaker 8: So as the Cowboys front office, would you not be
Speaker 8: more comfortable in the waning moments before he's officially released
Speaker 8: swooping in and offering up a pic. Yes, yep, what
Speaker 8: would that pick look like for you?
Speaker 5: The fifth, the fifth next year, one of those three
Speaker 5: fifth this year on next year, this year, you got
Speaker 5: three this.
Speaker 3: Year, you might as well use it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you got a comp it's.
Speaker 3: Got two right next to each other. You might as well.
Speaker 7: You got two two cops.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Now I will say this because you don't have any
Speaker 7: days Hupex.
Speaker 8: But this is a great point that Isaiah mixed though. Okay,
Speaker 8: he made this between during the break. That's a thirty
Speaker 8: plus million dollar hit for twenty twenty six, that this
Speaker 8: particular gentleman has on that that roster. It has to
Speaker 8: be a rework, right, it has to be. So Yeah,
Speaker 8: I agree, I'd give up a fifth.
Speaker 5: And maybe they'd take some of the contract, and so
Speaker 5: the fifth's probably expect they got to eat the pro
Speaker 5: ration anyway. Yeah, so there's a little bit of that.
Speaker 5: Are you worried about his injury history? He's got some.
Speaker 8: I can't know, because I can't in good conscience sit
Speaker 8: here and say that I'm in on Trey Hendrickson or
Speaker 8: that I was in on Max Crosby, but then look
Speaker 8: at this particular guy and say, oh, well, I'm not
Speaker 8: in on him from like, no, it's it's apples, apples apples, right,
Speaker 8: It's literally apples to apples to apples when you're compare
Speaker 8: those three. So yeah, I'm completely not worried about it
Speaker 8: from that capacity any more than I would be with
Speaker 8: her Hendrick Centomex Crosby. So yeah, I mean, I was
Speaker 8: just curious if you guys were of the same mindset
Speaker 8: with me. Was like, don't let him hit free agency
Speaker 8: because knowing how the Cowboys typically spend and even if
Speaker 8: they're they would, but they're not going to get into
Speaker 8: that batting war for that guy, So go in and
Speaker 8: take them.
Speaker 5: One other one other linebacker name we threw out Chanal,
Speaker 5: we threw out Elis one other linebacker name that I
Speaker 5: think and Nick Harris, friend of the show for him,
Speaker 5: were talking Cowboys remember through this out there yesterday. But
Speaker 5: Patrick Queen, uh from Pittsburgh, he might be.
Speaker 3: Another doesn't move great for me? Yeah, he's well, he's
Speaker 3: always been kind of slow.
Speaker 10: Those I think the report are saying that they might
Speaker 10: be out on that.
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, were suing it as as hard he was.
Speaker 8: But then Hastick in Baltimore completely out of sorts. In Pittsburgh.
Speaker 8: You could say, different team, different system, and that's viable.
Speaker 3: I would rather have the other two guys, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you would.
Speaker 9: I'm trying to the identity of what the direction of
Speaker 9: this defense, and I'm thinking about guys that not only
Speaker 9: can produce on the field, but also give you the
Speaker 9: versatility to be able to be multiple.
Speaker 3: Defensively, which we know coach Parker wants to do.
Speaker 9: And then also what type of attitude that these guys have,
Speaker 9: what type of what type of aggression do they have
Speaker 9: on the field. That is going to determine the type
Speaker 9: of personnel that you're going to bring into this locker
Speaker 9: room as well. I think that's something that's lost when
Speaker 9: people are putting together rosters around this time of the year.
Speaker 3: People just look at.
Speaker 9: What they do on the What type of production do
Speaker 9: they have, what are their stats look like, what type
Speaker 9: of player are they? What type of energy do they
Speaker 9: bring right? Are they a high energy guy? Are they
Speaker 9: a raw ro guy? Are they go hit you in
Speaker 9: the face type?
Speaker 11: Do like?
Speaker 9: What do they bring in that regard. So that's what
Speaker 9: I think about some of these personnel. That's why I
Speaker 9: bring these names.
Speaker 7: Are they willing to do whatever it is?
Speaker 5: It's like, oh, I'm just about it exactly one of
Speaker 5: the I mean, out of the two guys they signed
Speaker 5: yesterday or made the moves for yesterday. Mixed reports on
Speaker 5: Rashan Garry, But for Jalen Thompson. I texted some of
Speaker 5: our friends over with the Arizona Cardinals said I love
Speaker 5: with seven to ohs seven O's in love. I love
Speaker 5: Jalen Thompson, nicest, most respectful and humble person. And then
Speaker 5: he said he's so great, played this entire year on
Speaker 5: a contract with no guaranteed money. He's smart, he's tough,
Speaker 5: and he deserves every bit of that money that is
Speaker 5: that is coming super high football like you. And that's
Speaker 5: even without him stepping within the building.
Speaker 10: Firstatle a sure tackler, I mean, he finishes plays and
Speaker 10: his solo tackle numbers are proof of that.
Speaker 7: Over his entire.
Speaker 5: Career, he split almost evenly three different areas in the
Speaker 5: In his alignment as safety, he had free, strong and nickel.
Speaker 5: He played a lot of nickel two hundred and thirty
Speaker 5: plus naps and nickel back, and so you're gonna use
Speaker 5: him a lot in a couple different areas for that
Speaker 5: that backside.
Speaker 9: If I'm building his defense, I know we gotta get
Speaker 9: out here. I'm looking at my interior d lineman being dogs, right,
Speaker 9: my three down those guys, all three of them have
Speaker 9: to be dogs. I'm looking for my outside linebackers now, Okay,
Speaker 9: I need those guys to be straight. Just I need
Speaker 9: both sides to be goons, just menaces, just even if
Speaker 9: they're not dominant players. I need them to be you know,
Speaker 9: you know, cohonas to the wall type people every single
Speaker 9: play just pests.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 9: I need my interior linebackers to be intellectual guys, sure
Speaker 9: tacklers that are smart as all get out, and I
Speaker 9: need my secondary to be versatile. That's that's how I
Speaker 9: would build this team. Right, So that's exactly how I
Speaker 9: would look at this. Now, if you can't go get
Speaker 9: and we seem to have possibly missed out on some
Speaker 9: of those just game changing type players, But now, I
Speaker 9: think you can still formulate your team in this way. Right,
Speaker 9: you have your three down guys already, I think you
Speaker 9: can still add to that there are some veteran guys
Speaker 9: that maybe towards the end of their career that can
Speaker 9: add to that depth.
Speaker 3: Right, there's some big boys out there.
Speaker 9: Klaias Kalaias Campbell's out there, You got Cameron Jordan out there.
Speaker 9: You got some guys that like all those guys are old. Yeah,
Speaker 9: but if they're going to be the second wave of
Speaker 9: your D line, that's a hell of a second line
Speaker 9: to bring in. And what do they bring to your
Speaker 9: locker room? What did they bring to ed Deep three?
Speaker 9: That's what I'm talking about. When you start adding these
Speaker 9: depth pieces. Have your starters, but then behind them have
Speaker 9: some consistent, smart, intellectual guys that can get their job done.
Speaker 3: Maybe not to the way they.
Speaker 9: Used to because they were big time star players, but
Speaker 9: they can still make huge contributions.
Speaker 5: Just because I teased it, I want to go through
Speaker 5: the NFC East real quick and kind of talk about
Speaker 5: what happened yesterday.
Speaker 3: Of course we talked about the Cowboys.
Speaker 5: They were the only team that did not lose a
Speaker 5: free agent to another team in the NFC East.
Speaker 3: And I believe in the NFL.
Speaker 5: I think that either waynybody good or bad, whatever that
Speaker 5: ends up being the Eagles, however, a lot, Oh my goodness,
Speaker 5: they did not sign anybody. Them and the Packers are
Speaker 5: the only two teams that did not sign any free
Speaker 5: agency yesterday, or at least to greet the terms. They
Speaker 5: did extend Jordan Davis that he did to tackle, but
Speaker 5: they lost Jalen Phillips, Nikobe Dean Reid Blankingship and Johan Doatson.
Speaker 5: So those are three or four really good players that
Speaker 5: they are not going to have. The Giants were very busy.
Speaker 5: They signed Isaiah Likely to tie end, and signed linebackers
Speaker 5: and Edmonds. They signed safety Ardarius Washington. They signed a
Speaker 5: new punter in Jordan Stout, and they re signed a
Speaker 5: couple of their guys offensive lineman and a wide receiver.
Speaker 5: They lost Wandale Robinson, Cordell Flatt, and Daniel Bellinger.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: Of course they have new new leadership with John Harball
Speaker 5: and company.
Speaker 3: What was that Robinson got cast out? Yes he did? Yeah, good,
Speaker 3: good for him.
Speaker 5: And then the Commanders signed a dafe O Way. They
Speaker 5: signed corner of Meek Robertson. They signed defensive tackle Tim
Speaker 5: Settle from the Texans, and then they re signed Marcus
Speaker 5: Mariota and they extended one of their offensive linemens.
Speaker 3: At least they lost on alec Pearce.
Speaker 5: They did lose out on it.
Speaker 3: Now you don't have to worry about Pierce opposite scary Terry. Yes.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 5: The one guy they did lose was a guy they
Speaker 5: cut and a former cowboy, Tyler Biotische.
Speaker 3: He goes to the Chargers for three years and good
Speaker 3: for him. By the way, he got a little bit.
Speaker 3: You have noticed that our former centers have gotten paid.
Speaker 3: Who are you talking about an interior lineman? Beatis uh
Speaker 3: McGovern mc govern mc govern.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I literally said, you're watching. I'm like our our scouting department.
Speaker 5: They know how to pick limbat or lineman, offensive lineman.
Speaker 3: They got that one down.
Speaker 5: All right. That does it for us? Here on talking
Speaker 5: cowboys being back down Tuesday with more. Can't wait to
Speaker 5: have it, Isaiah, love you body. I just don't love
Speaker 5: to see hawks. That's about it, all right, We'll be
Speaker 5: back Tuesday plenty more to break down. I'm sure it'll
Speaker 5: be a whole another week of craziness between now and
Speaker 5: then for Patrick Nocy, Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah stand back
Speaker 5: Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yoman, saying so
Speaker 5: long from talking Cowboys.
Speaker 3: We'll see you next week.
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