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Speaker 5: Texas and the Sat Seat Studios. Welcome in, everybody. We've

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Speaker 5: got the whole cast and crew ready for you. Do

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Speaker 5: rock today with Patrick Noci Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah Standback,

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Speaker 5: Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman. So glad

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Speaker 5: you're with us. Yes, free agency is upon us. The

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Speaker 5: legal Tampa tampering period is here, and the Cowboys more

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Speaker 5: active than they have been in the past, but still

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Speaker 5: probably left a lot to be desired over the last

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Speaker 5: twenty four hours or so, and we're gonna break it

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Speaker 5: all down. They've made some moves. You're gonna talk about

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Speaker 5: those moves, but we're also gonna talk about what could

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Speaker 5: be next.

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Speaker 3: If anything, for the Cowboys, tampering's over. It's time to pamper. Tampering.

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Speaker 5: No pampering, no pamper, no tamper, damp Tampa, no tamper,

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Speaker 5: no tampa pamper.

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Speaker 3: There you go, no tampa.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 5: That comes on March eleventh. We got we got another

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Speaker 5: twenty four hours no power. But cowboys make a couple moves.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to damper your pamper. Don't damper my

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Speaker 7: pamper on the tamper, on the tamper, or hamper.

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Speaker 3: The pamper that you're attempting to tamper.

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Speaker 5: All of our audios. Our audio listeners just turned us off.

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Speaker 5: If you're still around, thank you.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate.

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Speaker 5: They're like, okay, this and this is what type of

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Speaker 5: day what we do? Patrick, no Sewalker, You've had your

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Speaker 5: finger on the.

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Speaker 3: Pulse of Cowboys tampering period.

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Speaker 5: Who if they decided to pamper going into this twenty

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Speaker 5: sixth season.

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Speaker 8: Well let's start with literally who they decided to pamper.

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Speaker 8: They agreed to termined one year deal with Sam Williams.

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Speaker 8: So Sam Williams is remaining in the building on a

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Speaker 8: yeah you just called it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a Baryeah. I don't know where you were

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Speaker 3: headed with that, but now I go, we got there,

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Speaker 3: we got we got there.

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Speaker 8: Sam Williams back on a one year deal for three

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Speaker 8: million dollars key special teams got for the Cowboys. But

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Speaker 8: we're not going to pretend that he doesn't need to

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Speaker 8: show something on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 9: But this new system fits him though, it does I

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Speaker 9: mean the type of well, yeah, the type of player

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Speaker 9: that yes, I'll say that right, yeah, if there was

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Speaker 9: a choice between a four to three and a three four,

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Speaker 9: this is the system that he will want to be in.

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Speaker 9: So I know we've been hard in regards to, you know, analytically, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, going after you know, Sam Williams.

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Speaker 9: But that's because he, in my opinion, did not fit

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Speaker 9: a four to three type defensive end. He is a

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Speaker 9: three to four outside linebacker. This system should bode well

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Speaker 9: for him.

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Speaker 10: He was asked he was thrown into the Mike Zimmer defense.

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Speaker 10: He was thrown into my gosh, ever flews his defense.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, maybe it might not have suited him as well.

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Speaker 10: But I think there's a lot of concerns there as

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Speaker 10: far as just personal fouls. I think that's one of

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Speaker 10: the things that you have to consider. I mean, he

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Speaker 10: has nine point five sacks in his career, but nine

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Speaker 3: And that's the big thing.

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Speaker 10: And that's the big thing. He's got to be able

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Speaker 10: to mature. I mean, granted, they're giving him another shot.

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Speaker 10: It's a you know, three I'm sorry, one year deal,

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Speaker 10: three million dollars. That's interesting, But I'd say there are

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Speaker 10: better moves that were made yesterday.

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Speaker 8: There were that price tags a bit high for a

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Speaker 8: and show that you can either impact it positively on

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Speaker 8: But that's the Sam Williams equation. Hopefully he shows up

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Speaker 8: this year in a big way. We obviously hope that

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Speaker 8: what the real is, bigger news to what Josh is saying.

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Speaker 8: First of all, Cowboys started off legal time Pree not

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Speaker 3: But with a trade.

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Speaker 8: Cowboys traded for Packers former Packers and rusher Rashawn Gary.

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Speaker 8: The Cowboys were able to get him for a fourth

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Speaker 8: But the expectation is that will be reworked. So I

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Speaker 8: need you to open your eyes slope. There you go,

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Speaker 8: There you go. It is not the expectation that he

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Speaker 8: agreed to. But it can't be finalized until Wednesday anyway,

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Speaker 3: So keep that in mind, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 8: Legal tampering is yesterday or today tomorrow when the league

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Speaker 8: year opens at four pm Eastern time, everything becomes final

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Speaker 8: and then you can start reworking contracts like that. So

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Speaker 8: Rashan Gary in the building splash play for the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: They jumped all the way to safety. We talked about.

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Speaker 8: Isaiah and Joshua of the ILK that safety is slightly

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Speaker 8: more important the linebacker Kyl and I on the other

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Speaker 3: But they went to Jalen Thompson.

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Speaker 8: So they signed Jalen Thompson, former Arizona card and they

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Speaker 8: spent several seasons with guess who, Ryan Smith, the secondary

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Speaker 8: They got him on a three year, thirty six million

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Speaker 8: which saves them two million dollars against the cap. But

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Speaker 8: in restructuring Malik Hooker, anyone who was asking if Malie

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Speaker 8: Likely means that Donovan Wilson is going to be playing

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Speaker 3: So there you go, writing on the wall there, right

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Speaker 8: They also restructured the deal on Terrence Steele, So anyone

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Speaker 8: keep Terrence Steele. They saved nine million dollars toward the

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Speaker 3: And it's a cheaper deal, and it is much cheaper

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Speaker 5: It makes him the sixteenth highest paid offensive tackle in football,

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Speaker 3: To have, it's about right. It's commensurate. Are those that's

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Speaker 10: Are those details finalizers that have to wait till Wednesday

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Speaker 3: No, can be fine, restructures can be done now.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, yeah, because that's under contract, that's freedom captain got.

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Speaker 7: But it's not a pay cut NECESSI No, it is.

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Speaker 3: Not a page. It's just reorganized from a reorganizing.

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Speaker 8: It's giving it's liquid any more funds for him upfront,

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Speaker 8: but allowing the Cowboys to get cap reliefs. Same is

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Speaker 8: what we talked about last week with Dak Prescott, Ceedee

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Speaker 8: that they could restructure. Oh so Diggy Zoo is a

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Speaker 8: and restructure and get cap savings without his permission. Since

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Speaker 8: we last spoke, the Cowboys have issued a second round tender.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of news and notes before flying through it.

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Speaker 8: Second round tender on both branded Aubrey and TJ Bass

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Speaker 8: at five point six million dollars per point of clarity

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Speaker 8: for those that may not know. With the second round tender,

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Speaker 8: Cowboys have the right to first refusal. If a team

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Speaker 8: as compensation for that loss. So again that's Aubrey and Bass,

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Speaker 8: no second round tender or any tender on one Ya

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Speaker 8: but I from a logistics standpoint, While I don't like it,

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Speaker 8: So that's where they and I disagree. But for the

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Speaker 8: they didn't tender both.

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Speaker 5: I think there's a little bit more league wide interesting TJ.

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Speaker 3: Bass. I couldn't agree with that.

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Speaker 5: Then for brock hoton what we're hearing, and you can

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Speaker 5: Yeah he's a little upset, But we'll talk about that

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Speaker 5: later when it comes to when it comes to TJ.

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Speaker 5: better opportunity to bring Hoffmann back in the building than

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Speaker 5: it might be for TJ. Bass to return, and you're

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Speaker 5: gonna do it to Aubrey to protect your rights there

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Speaker 8: Now, to wrap up news and notes as well I

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Speaker 8: can considering what all we got going, Cowboys also were

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Speaker 8: awarded two compensatory picks for the twenty twenty six NFL Draft,

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Speaker 8: both in the fifth round, one seventy seventh overall and

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Speaker 8: one eightieth overall. Those picks can be traded, okay, so

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Speaker 8: the Cowboys can use those as sweeteners for whatever package

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Speaker 8: we have this conversation, They are not out on trade Hendrickson.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, Yeah, that was a time, all right.

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Speaker 5: So before we get too far into this, before we

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Speaker 5: about that. When it comes to Rashan Gary, you you

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Speaker 3: Round pick, and I put this out there yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Dallas has been very recently willing to trade fourth round

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Speaker 3: Players they're pretty loose with him.

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Speaker 5: Arguably, Yeah, three times in the last four years, Trey Lance,

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Speaker 5: of those three the best chance for the for the

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Speaker 3: I see a lot of pushback.

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Speaker 5: not the the blue chip edge rusher that I think

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Speaker 5: Is he better than what you had on this roster

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Speaker 3: Now they oh, they've missed out on all these guys.

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Speaker 5: They missed out on these players, they missed out on

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Speaker 5: I don't think they're done yet. And I still get

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Speaker 3: Are thinking that's going to be the number one No.

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Speaker 10: Of course, it was the first thing that you did.

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Speaker 7: Okay, paying Micah Parsons.

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Speaker 10: Oh no, no, But the best ability availability is ability

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Speaker 10: is availability. At least for Rashon Gary, who started sixteen

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Speaker 10: of seventeen games, played six hundred and sixteen snaps without

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Speaker 7: He had seven point.

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Speaker 10: Five sacks, which, paired with a Jadevian clowning from last year,

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Speaker 10: would have been a savior. That would have been amazing

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Speaker 10: Granted, do you think that he obviously benefited from a

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Speaker 10: I think it's not just a rotational guy. I think

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Speaker 10: he's a starting caliber outside linebacker, defensive end, whatever you

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Speaker 10: want to call it in the scheme, but they're using

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Speaker 10: we're done with free agency. It can't be that way,

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Speaker 10: because they were trying really hard to get a linebacker yesterday.

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Speaker 7: It just didn't swing our way.

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Speaker 10: Not that I'm making excuses for it, because I think

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Speaker 10: you can to go get him. That's why Trey Hendrickson

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Speaker 10: get him. I almost don't care what it takes. I

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Speaker 10: don't want to go thirty million, and he's not coming

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Speaker 8: I think when I agree with what you're saying, and I

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Speaker 8: I think what the Rashaan Gary move does for you

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Speaker 8: you also shouldn't do that. But Okay, let me just

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Speaker 8: I do agree with Kyle. Do I look at Rashan

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 8: I don't look at him as the well. I look

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Speaker 8: good at rushing the pastor at pastor and at stopping

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Speaker 8: But if you don't get Trey Hendrickson, then you know

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Speaker 8: and I agree with both your points. Rashaun Gary isn't

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Speaker 3: The question is who's the plus one?

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Speaker 8: My bigger concern with the Cowboys is and again not

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Speaker 8: for lack of effort, because we're here in the building.

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Speaker 3: We know for a fact they went hard at linebacker yesterday.

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Speaker 3: They went making calls. Yeah, it's crazy, just didn't just

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Speaker 5: What happened to your dog?

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Speaker 12: Man?

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Speaker 3: We need to talk. What happened to Kobe? What are

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Speaker 3: you doing? All right? What are you doing? He chose

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Speaker 3: let's talk about it. You get your dog here? Rough? Rough?

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Speaker 3: What are we doing? What we do? Listen? I did

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Speaker 7: Put the feelers out there.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 5: Maybe tweets were what sent him away.

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Speaker 3: This guy, the star guy. We possibly you got no

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Speaker 3: urges with everybody got no sea.

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Speaker 9: That's right, former former Bulldog. Yeah you have his former coach.

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Speaker 7: You can't say it today.

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Speaker 9: Who's calling the plays on that side of the ball?

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Speaker 9: And neither of those was good enough to get him here?

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Speaker 9: What the heck? I'm going to tell you what happened,

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Speaker 9: No doubt, all jokes aside. I was like, n Kobe,

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Speaker 9: so with his friends instead of when you want.

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Speaker 7: J Allen whatever you need to come on.

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Speaker 8: Maybe, but all jokes aside. Man, I wish to Kobe

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Speaker 8: nothing but the best, and he did not. You know,

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Speaker 8: he left the rival. He didn't go to another rival,

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Speaker 8: So okay, cool, but you know it did it did

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Speaker 3: Nikobe, what are you doing?

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Speaker 9: You know, I honestly wasn't sad about what do you think?

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Speaker 9: I mean, you're just just playing around. But I was

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Speaker 3: I mean, those buffalos.

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Speaker 8: Got how'd you feel about Quincy Quincy Williams Quinn's brother.

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Speaker 9: Oh that didn't bother me, didn't bother No, that didn't

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, he flew off to man what's that run

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Speaker 9: It was those those those three really in particular, it

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Speaker 5: And I think the league looks at it that way too,

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Speaker 9: I thought it was a good trade. As you guys mentioned,

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Speaker 9: I think the angle that the Cowboys are taking, I

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Speaker 9: to be on the Stephen Jones. Let's let's save a

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Speaker 9: It's like, hey, I know I need to do more

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Speaker 9: to have more depth than they've ever had. I'm just

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Speaker 9: we've seen what that did for our overall defense. Okay,

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Speaker 9: a heck of a player, but they made a hard

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Speaker 9: line decision to go away from that, right, to go

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Speaker 9: away from dumping the money into one player, so that

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Speaker 9: they can have the money to have depth right in

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Speaker 9: rotation and have consistency. So I think that they're really

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Speaker 9: torn between should we go back to that, we find

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Speaker 9: ourselves going back towards the Mica stuff.

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Speaker 3: No, we can't do that. We already had that guy

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Speaker 3: in the building.

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Speaker 9: So let's go ahead and let's add to depth and

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Speaker 9: add consistency. So we could have three or four guys

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Speaker 9: that are able to come in and play. And no,

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Speaker 9: they might not all individually be splashed players and can

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Speaker 9: be absolutely dominant, but collectively as a defense, we could

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Speaker 9: be one heck of a unit if we have consistency

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Speaker 9: across the board. So I think they really keep getting

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Speaker 9: in that tug of war, right like you know, you

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Speaker 9: mentioned that they try to go out to somebody's line backers.

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Speaker 9: You know, I don't think they're going to overpay at

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Speaker 9: the defensive and slash outside linebacker position Gary. As you

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Speaker 9: guys mentioned, they're going to rework that contract. So I

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Speaker 9: think that they're really going to add two or three

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Speaker 9: more pieces for depth and consistency and then go hard

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Speaker 9: with their first round picks on a defensive side. So

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Speaker 9: I think that you're still going to see a completely

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Speaker 9: different defense. It's just not going to be ooh, you

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Speaker 9: better watch that player. He can kill us.

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Speaker 10: But I would argue that the depth pieces that you

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Speaker 10: would want to add to your defense currently have been

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Speaker 10: eliminated a bit because in day one. You know, it

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Speaker 10: wasn't necessarily the big splash players. I mean we're talking

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Speaker 10: about Lloyd and Little who didn't necessarily command like giant contracts,

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Speaker 10: I think, like very doable contracts for what the Cowboys

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Speaker 10: are trying to do to still be able to pay

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Speaker 10: George Pickens and you know, a lot of your franchise

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Speaker 10: players in the future. But to have those guys go

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Speaker 10: off day one and not make the hard enough push

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Speaker 10: to make it happen to me is disappointing. I think

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Speaker 10: that as far as linebacker goes, yesterday was a really

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Speaker 10: really tough set.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think.

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Speaker 8: I mean, if we had to offer up a grade,

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Speaker 8: I think yesterday was was a c uh.

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Speaker 3: They got off to the races. Yeah, they got off.

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Speaker 5: To the give it like a B B minus B

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Speaker 5: B minus. I mean you got starting, safety starting, and

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Speaker 5: Thompson is an A. Like those are two guys that

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Speaker 5: are better than Thompson is an A where Shaun Gary

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Speaker 5: is a B plus. But I can't give Gary an

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Speaker 5: A because I literally just said here and said you

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Speaker 5: need a plus one to complete.

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Speaker 3: That package, which I agree.

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Speaker 8: So if you need a plus one, if this is Thompson,

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Speaker 8: I don't think you need the plus one to complete

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Speaker 8: the Jaalen Thompson move.

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Speaker 3: So it's an A.

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Speaker 8: But if you need any type of sweetener for the move,

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Speaker 8: then it can't be an A. So that will be

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Speaker 8: let's say a B plus. So if I give an

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Speaker 8: AID to Jalen Thompson, Jayalen Thompson signing.

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Speaker 3: You can B plus? Did Gary?

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Speaker 8: And I got to give you an f O linebacker

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Speaker 8: because you nothing was addressed there?

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Speaker 3: So I land right at sea.

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Speaker 5: But it's also day one, No, I agree, I say

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Speaker 5: it's day one.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of names.

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Speaker 8: If I'm great yesterday, if I'm grading yesterday, I didn't

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Speaker 8: say it. I'm grading free agency. Sure agency is not over.

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Speaker 8: But if I'm grading yesterday, yesterday's a C. Let's see

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Speaker 8: what the moves are today. But I will losso admit

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Speaker 8: Josh has has a great point some of the depth,

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Speaker 8: especially at linebacker. There was such a run on linebackers

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Speaker 8: that and I think everyone who follows me on Twitter

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Speaker 8: into that as well. Come on down because now there's

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Speaker 8: been such a run at linebacker and free agency, which

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Speaker 8: now anyone you sign outside of some type of blockbuster

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Speaker 8: linebacker trade. Now you start looking at the draft and

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Speaker 8: you start looking at twelve or twenty.

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Speaker 5: At that pisode, and maybe other teams don't necessarily need

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Speaker 8: Have because there was a run on linebackers and free agency.

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Speaker 5: Maybe all right, when we come back, I want to

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Speaker 5: talk about what could be next for Dallas.

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Speaker 3: What are the other moves that.

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Speaker 5: They can get to make this feel better than what

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Speaker 3: I still think that they're moving in the right direction.

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Speaker 5: But as Isaiah talked about and I completely agree with,

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Speaker 5: Continuing to talk about free agency right now, the Cowboys

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Speaker 5: are twenty second out of thirty two teams in terms

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Speaker 5: of free agent spending. Would anybody like to take a

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Speaker 5: guess on who is number one on that list?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Caroline, Carolina pen it is not a Carolina Panthers. They

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Speaker 5: are third.

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Speaker 3: Raiders.

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Speaker 5: Tennessee Titans are number one, two hundred and eighty three

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Speaker 5: million dollars on day one.

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Speaker 3: What a Raiders number two?

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Speaker 5: They are number two, two hundred and eighty one point

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Speaker 5: five millions.

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Speaker 3: Only one Derbaum, So.

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Speaker 5: Two those two teams hit twot eighty. The Panthers are

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Speaker 5: in third at one seventy two.

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Speaker 3: Tell us. It's like dog on it.

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Speaker 5: The amount of additions the Raiders made man was just wild.

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Speaker 5: It's crazy to see how much they spent. Now, there

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Speaker 5: is something in common for a lot of these teams.

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Speaker 5: You take a look at the Raiders, the Titans, the Commanders,

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Speaker 5: the Saints, the Colts, the Giants all in the top

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Speaker 5: What is that seven teams of spending. All of those

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Speaker 5: teams are picking in the top ten of the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 5: So you've got all of those teams, Raiders, the Tigers,

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Speaker 5: the Giants, the Commanders, the Saints. I don't believe one

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Speaker 5: of those teams I named the Colts are not picking

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Speaker 5: in the top ten, but you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: So lots of spending from the bottom level teams in

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Speaker 5: the draft and We're gonna take a look at what

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Speaker 5: the NFC East did here in a couple of moments

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Speaker 5: as well. But I want to talk take a look

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Speaker 5: at some of the top one hundred free agents according

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Speaker 5: to the NFL dot Com and who is still out

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Speaker 5: there that could be a fit for Dallas.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I got some guys. Got some guys. Tell me

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Speaker 3: one you got.

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Speaker 9: I mean, people are gonna get me like I'm crazy,

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Speaker 9: But anyway, care I still want Bobby Wagner. Yeah, still

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Speaker 9: want Bobby Wagner. Caleb Chase eight years old, absolutely still

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Speaker 9: one of the top linebackers in the league. Bobby Wagner

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Speaker 9: a coach on the field, a coach on the field, consistent,

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Speaker 9: great person, great locker room guy, leader, just all those

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Speaker 9: things he can still he still got some tread on

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Speaker 9: on the tires.

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Speaker 3: So I think you can get him for a very

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Speaker 3: affordable at the number.

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Speaker 10: I think that, and especially if you're drafting linebackers, what

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Speaker 10: better pairing would it be to have a Bobby Wagner

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Speaker 10: coaching these guys up. Like we said, literally a coach

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Speaker 10: on the field to help these guys improve. I mean,

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Speaker 10: like even for a guy like Shamar James, how crucial

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Speaker 10: would that be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, b him.

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Speaker 9: If you're gonna have a rotational veteran, that's that's one.

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Speaker 9: Caleb on Chase on out of I agree with England.

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Speaker 9: I like him a lot as well.

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Speaker 5: That would be such a full circle most it would

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Speaker 5: be so fully from twenty c Lamb Chase. That was

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Speaker 5: the decision at seventeen. They go with c Ed Lamb

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Speaker 5: best player available, not over the need of edge rusher

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Speaker 5: which they needed, and then for him to just come

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Speaker 5: on back after ceede Lamb's been an all pro. They

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Speaker 5: get it right and then Caylevons gets a circle all

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Speaker 5: the love see.

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Speaker 3: That would be wild.

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Speaker 7: Would you like that move?

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Speaker 3: You know what? I would?

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Speaker 5: I think it'd be fun because it would go into

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Speaker 5: what you talked about a couple of weeks ago when

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Speaker 5: we're talking about this three four scheme and switching from

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Speaker 5: a four to three to a three four, even though

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Speaker 5: You need versatile ed rushers, you need big bodied ed rushers,

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Speaker 5: and that's what Calebon Jason can bring. So I think

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Speaker 5: it would add to that room of edge rushers you

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Speaker 5: need to compile. You've added it with Rashan, Gary Calebon

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Speaker 5: Jason would be another depth piece. Is he your starter?

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Speaker 6: No?

665
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Speaker 5: Is he a rotational player? Absolutely, He's probably gonna play

666
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 5: a lot of snaps for you.

667
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Speaker 7: Of those listed, where does Kaden Ellis?

668
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Speaker 5: I love Kayden Ellis phenomenal player and I mean you

669
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Speaker 5: talk about him as one of the and I know

670
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 5: NFL dot Com wrote about this. I completely agree, the

671
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Speaker 5: most underrated players of his generation. And he's thirty one

672
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 5: years old. He's established himself as a pass rushing linebacker.

673
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Speaker 5: You can play him off ball, you can play them

674
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Speaker 5: on ball, you can play him kind of in a

675
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 5: number of different areas. Played a ton of snaps. I

676
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Speaker 5: think it was what a thousand snaps over the last

677
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Speaker 5: three seasons or so. Give me Kateen Ellis at the

678
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Speaker 5: second level. I would love something like that two year,

679
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 5: three year deal. Let's make a happen.

680
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Speaker 7: Is he top of your list as far as linebackers go.

681
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 5: As far as linebackers, probably, yeah, he'd probably be number

682
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 5: one remaining out of the free agent list. I know

683
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Speaker 5: there's the rumors of what they would do and possible

684
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 5: trade scenarios. I would like those. That would be fun,

685
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Speaker 5: but we can't talk about the specific players. Kate Ellis

686
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Speaker 5: we can talk about says he's a free agent. Yeeah,

687
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Speaker 5: he'd probably be my number one remaining out of city.

688
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 5: He'd probably be right there. Yeah, I would give I

689
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 5: would give the.

690
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Speaker 3: Edge to Ellis though, I think he fits the system.

691
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Speaker 10: Similarly, on NFL dot com, they were talking about his

692
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Speaker 10: availability and you playing more than five hundred snaps in

693
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Speaker 10: a year?

694
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Speaker 7: Is he k doing something like that Shanalo?

695
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Speaker 6: Yeah?

696
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Speaker 3: Yeah for me.

697
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Speaker 8: And this is some of these guys that we're talking

698
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Speaker 8: about that are still available made it to my open

699
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 8: market series on Dallas Cowboys dot com.

700
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 3: So I'm still mad at I'm still mad at.

701
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Speaker 5: Uh.

702
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 3: Chayson is one of those guys.

703
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 8: So when we talked about adding the sweetener to the

704
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 8: Gary deal, Chason would be that a sweetener. An example

705
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 8: of that sweetener. You gotta address linebacker today. So, whether

706
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 8: it be Ellis, whether it be Chanel, you gotta address linebacker.

707
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go to cornerback because they didn't address that

708
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 8: yesterday either.

709
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: I want to Wreak Wooling.

710
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 7: I like those words.

711
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Speaker 5: I've always been Ak Woolling fan since he was a

712
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Speaker 5: ut so found the freak baby bring him back to

713
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Speaker 5: the lone star state.

714
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Speaker 3: Let's do it's gonna cost you don't care shut up.

715
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Speaker 5: Because he went to set he was.

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Speaker 3: A back up.

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Speaker 2: Bunny.

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Speaker 3: Why he had fans wants the bag man, I don't.

719
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 3: I don't think that you no, he's gonna get. I

720
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: don't think you can get Wrek and and and the

721
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 3: past rushing that you want. I don't think I don't

722
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: even get both. I just don't.

723
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 5: I just don't like your Seattle and super Bowl champion

724
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 5: mine negating our dreams of getting a tall, linking, speedy corner.

725
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Speaker 8: I don't meanly disagree that you can't do both things.

726
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 3: Really you can do both things.

727
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 8: An example being at the top of the show, I said,

728
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 8: you know they restructured five guys to this point, right,

729
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 8: No burgers. They there's one at least one sitting right

730
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 8: in front of you that you haven't put a trigger

731
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 8: on yet. Why haven't you put the trigger on restructuring

732
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 8: oh yet? Because you don't need to yet. But in

733
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 8: the event you need to, you're going to pull that.

734
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 8: So let's say they get Trey Hendrickson, and let's say

735
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 8: they can talk him down to I don't know. Let's

736
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Speaker 8: say twenty eight whatever, just for the sake of math,

737
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 8: I wouldn't do thirty But let's say they get.

738
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: Would you be happy with?

739
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 9: Honestly, would you guys be happy paying Trey Henderson twenty eight?

740
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 3: Yes, as he was he's on your team. I'm fine, Yeah, because.

741
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 7: You find a way to make it work.

742
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 8: Aby say two things are true, which is to what

743
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 8: I'm saying. You can finesse the salary cap. However you

744
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 8: need to finess it. Teams do it all the time.

745
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 8: In addition to it, it ain't my.

746
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 5: Money's that's where it ain't my money. That's where my

747
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 5: mind says. So I sat up here last week and

748
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 5: told Cowboys fans and was very adamant about it. And

749
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 5: I still believe this. By the way that I think

750
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 5: this year is different from a spending standpoint. I think

751
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 5: it is different from what I've heard from the front

752
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 5: office and from what we've heard all the way around.

753
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 5: And I still think they are willing to do something big.

754
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 5: But at that point it might be thirty million for

755
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 5: Trey Hendrickson.

756
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: He's not going below.

757
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 5: Do what you gotta do to make this team better

758
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 5: and do exactly what Jerry said on the bus to

759
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 5: us in Indianapolis. Wager the future, and that's the nice

760
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 5: way of putting it. Listen, but wager the future and

761
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 5: get a badass football player on your team and spend

762
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 5: the money to do so. I still think they are

763
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 5: tinkering on doing that, but they're just hesitant at the moment.

764
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 5: But in this day and age of NFL free agency

765
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 5: and the legal tampering period, hesitation gets you nothing. You

766
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 5: cannot wait for this, make a move, forget about the future.

767
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 5: Let's do this thing over the next two or three

768
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 5: years and see what happened.

769
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 8: Because here's what you don't want them to do, right,

770
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 8: And this is not a shot a shot at either

771
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 8: of these two guys, especially Javion Clwnty, because we on

772
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 8: this show we love us some Jadaeveon Clowney. But if

773
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 8: you can get Trey Hendrickson in lieu of breaking that

774
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 8: money apart and saying, Okay, I'm going to bring back

775
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 8: Fowler and Clowney and a third person. And then here's

776
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 8: Jerry now spinning it and selling it how he has

777
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 8: in the past and saying, well, instead of us pay Micah,

778
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 8: we were able to get five different people. Could he

779
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 8: could I don't want that to happen here. I say,

780
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 8: you go and get trade I already said I don't

781
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 8: want to pay trade thirty.

782
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 3: I don't.

783
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 8: But if they pay trade thirty, am I personally going

784
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 8: to be upset? No, because he's on the roster, which

785
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 8: was my goal and it ain't my money. And I

786
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 8: know that you can pull more triggers to free up

787
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 8: more cash to also get to wreak Willing and bring

788
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 8: Wreek to Dallast.

789
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 3: So yes, you can do all of those.

790
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 9: Let me ask you this question, ask if you can

791
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 9: wait until tomorrow and grab somebody for Miami for twenty.

792
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 3: Who's somebody I don't think. I'm not sure. I can't

793
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 3: say yeah, grab somebody out.

794
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 7: Of Miami here, So just like go dogs, can't say

795
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 7: it today.

796
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 9: Hey, so grab that person for twenty and you go

797
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 9: get a Reek and you get a line a contributing linebacker.

798
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 3: Up one of the guys, like you get an l

799
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 3: ass or all or something exactly. You're saying that you

800
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 3: would prefer wait.

801
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 8: The person you're talking about in Miami, are they on

802
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 8: an expiring contract?

803
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 3: They are going to most likely be if there's no

804
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 3: deal done by tomorrow, will their contract.

805
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 8: Expire, Well, they would already be. I'm trying to figure

806
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 8: out what she's talking about without saying it on the air,

807
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 8: and listen, I'll figure it out.

808
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: It tax it to me.

809
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 5: But you're saying, let's just say Edge Rusher twenty million dollars,

810
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 5: a blue chip guy. Yeah, if you if you get

811
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 5: him along with a starting caliber linebacker and a starting

812
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 5: caliber corner, would you feel okay with that as opposed

813
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 5: to Trey Hendrix.

814
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 10: If you get Trey Hendrickson, I think you were much

815
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 10: less worried about getting cleaned out at linebacker because then

816
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 10: you can focus on the draft at that product.

817
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 7: Okay, because you have those those high picks, you have

818
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 7: two first round picks.

819
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 10: I think you're able to make it work if you

820
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 10: draft or if you sign at this and.

821
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 7: Make it work with linebacker at this point.

822
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 3: Okay, Yes, I like Henderson.

823
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 9: I love his I love him, and I hate that

824
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 9: what's happened to him in terms of his career and

825
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 9: being screwed contractually. I wish the best for man, and

826
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 9: maybe he'll be here. I personally, I okay, would much

827
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 9: rather have are one of these with the gentlemen out

828
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 9: of Miami that I like go get your corner right

829
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 9: and get you a starting linebacker, and then use your

830
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 9: first two picks in the draft to go get two

831
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 9: more goons on defense that are young guns that can contribute.

832
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 9: That's what I would like because now at that point

833
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 9: you're in the higher defense.

834
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 3: It's a holistic that you have no weaknesses at that point.

835
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 8: Okay, right, no glern to answer your question, because brain

836
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 8: funk it now. I know so because I thought the

837
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 8: move had already been executed tomorrow. If the move is

838
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 8: executed for the player that we're.

839
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 5: Just being safe by the way, for everybody, see everybody

840
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 5: in the chat, you got it.

841
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 3: You guys know the name. That's the name we're talking about.

842
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 8: So if we're just that's my mistake because I thought

843
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 8: it had already been executed. But if that move is

844
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 8: executed tomorrow when the new league year opens.

845
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 3: To answer your question, yes.

846
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 8: I am much more comfortable and I'm completely fine within

847
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 8: lieu of Trede Hendrick saying you bring me this guy.

848
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: As want something else.

849
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 8: If you add Tarique Wooland or that's what I'm saying,

850
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 8: or a shannalo or if you add that's what I'm saying.

851
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, but not by that by themselves.

852
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, what I'm saying that we said this is the

853
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 9: beginning of the show. I believe that Dallas is halfway

854
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 9: and halfway out of trying to go back to paying

855
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 9: so much money for one player. Yes, I really think

856
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 9: that they're torn between what they've done.

857
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 3: And what they're unwilling to do.

858
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 9: So I truly believe that they're waiting on this potential

859
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 9: move to happen, and if they can't get that done,

860
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 9: then they'll go do it.

861
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 7: I don't know.

862
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 8: Okay, So as we have this conversation, I could see

863
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 8: their thought process starting to maybe shift toward that, but

864
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 8: it wasn't that effective last Friday or Saturday when they

865
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 8: were ready to go hard, when they did go hard

866
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 8: at Max Crosby, and then when that didn't pan out

867
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 8: because I agree in not giving up two first rounds,

868
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 8: they said, Okay, well, let's pivot to still talking to

869
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 8: Troy Hendrickson, but let's go ahead and make this for

870
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 8: Shawn Gary move in the event we also don't get

871
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 8: Hendrickson knowing that Gary needs a sweetener. So if the

872
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 8: sweetener is the guy from Miami, if that move is

873
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 8: executed tomorrow and you address linebacker and or corner with

874
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 8: not just a budget ben guy, but an actual starter. Yeah,

875
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 8: that's how I would at this range. That's exactly how

876
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 8: I'm looking at this. And I can see that playing out.

877
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 8: I can see that.

878
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 9: I can see that gentleman looking at what just happened

879
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 9: yesterday with the trade with Dallas for Gary looking at

880
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 9: there and saying, oh, he's over there.

881
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 3: Bet, I'll come play on the opposite side.

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Speaker 9: And oh, and you guys are gonna grab a linebacker,

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Speaker 9: a starting linebacker.

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Speaker 3: Oh bet. And oh and you're gonna go get a corner.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 9: I got a question, and we got and too, first

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Speaker 9: run too, first rup, let's go.

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Speaker 5: I got a question for the panel because I'm curious. Well,

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Speaker 5: this one. He said, it's legal tampering, guys. You can

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Speaker 5: say which we cannot.

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Speaker 9: We cannot you kill untill he's especially called protecting the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, especially since he's still technically under contract. Even though

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Speaker 5: the news is out that he will be released, we

948
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Speaker 5: can't talk about it. And then he said, what future.

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Speaker 5: Don't y'all watch the news with the laughing emoji? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's fair, all right, let's wager the future.

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Speaker 3: Right, all right? What was your question? Pat so question?

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Speaker 8: We're sitting here, we're talking about this particular individual, which

953
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Speaker 8: I think we all know who we're talking about now.

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Speaker 8: In a scenario where not unlike Rashaun Gary, when teams

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Speaker 8: know that this player is going to be released, there

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Speaker 8: are obviously teams who are so willing to bust a budget.

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Speaker 8: They're like, we're not going to trade him because we're

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Speaker 8: willing to throw whatever bag at him.

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Speaker 3: That's typically not the Cowboys.

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Speaker 8: So as the Cowboys front office, would you not be

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Speaker 8: more comfortable in the waning moments before he's officially released

962
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Speaker 8: swooping in and offering up a pic. Yes, yep, what

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Speaker 8: would that pick look like for you?

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Speaker 5: The fifth, the fifth next year, one of those three

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Speaker 5: fifth this year on next year, this year, you got

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Speaker 5: three this.

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Speaker 3: Year, you might as well use it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you got a comp it's.

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Speaker 3: Got two right next to each other. You might as well.

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Speaker 7: You got two two cops.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Now I will say this because you don't have any

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Speaker 7: days Hupex.

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Speaker 8: But this is a great point that Isaiah mixed though. Okay,

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Speaker 8: he made this between during the break. That's a thirty

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Speaker 8: plus million dollar hit for twenty twenty six, that this

977
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Speaker 8: particular gentleman has on that that roster. It has to

978
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Speaker 8: be a rework, right, it has to be. So Yeah,

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Speaker 8: I agree, I'd give up a fifth.

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Speaker 5: And maybe they'd take some of the contract, and so

981
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Speaker 5: the fifth's probably expect they got to eat the pro

982
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Speaker 5: ration anyway. Yeah, so there's a little bit of that.

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Speaker 5: Are you worried about his injury history? He's got some.

984
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Speaker 8: I can't know, because I can't in good conscience sit

985
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Speaker 8: here and say that I'm in on Trey Hendrickson or

986
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Speaker 8: that I was in on Max Crosby, but then look

987
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Speaker 8: at this particular guy and say, oh, well, I'm not

988
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Speaker 8: in on him from like, no, it's it's apples, apples apples, right,

989
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Speaker 8: It's literally apples to apples to apples when you're compare

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Speaker 8: those three. So yeah, I'm completely not worried about it

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Speaker 8: from that capacity any more than I would be with

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Speaker 8: her Hendrick Centomex Crosby. So yeah, I mean, I was

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Speaker 8: just curious if you guys were of the same mindset

994
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Speaker 8: with me. Was like, don't let him hit free agency

995
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Speaker 8: because knowing how the Cowboys typically spend and even if

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Speaker 8: they're they would, but they're not going to get into

997
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Speaker 8: that batting war for that guy, So go in and

998
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Speaker 8: take them.

999
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Speaker 5: One other one other linebacker name we threw out Chanal,

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Speaker 5: we threw out Elis one other linebacker name that I

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Speaker 5: think and Nick Harris, friend of the show for him,

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Speaker 5: were talking Cowboys remember through this out there yesterday. But

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Speaker 5: Patrick Queen, uh from Pittsburgh, he might be.

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Speaker 3: Another doesn't move great for me? Yeah, he's well, he's

1005
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Speaker 3: always been kind of slow.

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Speaker 10: Those I think the report are saying that they might

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Speaker 10: be out on that.

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Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, were suing it as as hard he was.

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Speaker 8: But then Hastick in Baltimore completely out of sorts. In Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 8: You could say, different team, different system, and that's viable.

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Speaker 3: I would rather have the other two guys, but yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you would.

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Speaker 9: I'm trying to the identity of what the direction of

1014
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Speaker 9: this defense, and I'm thinking about guys that not only

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Speaker 9: can produce on the field, but also give you the

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Speaker 9: versatility to be able to be multiple.

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Speaker 3: Defensively, which we know coach Parker wants to do.

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Speaker 9: And then also what type of attitude that these guys have,

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Speaker 9: what type of what type of aggression do they have

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Speaker 9: on the field. That is going to determine the type

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Speaker 9: of personnel that you're going to bring into this locker

1022
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Speaker 9: room as well. I think that's something that's lost when

1023
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 9: people are putting together rosters around this time of the year.

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Speaker 3: People just look at.

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Speaker 9: What they do on the What type of production do

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Speaker 9: they have, what are their stats look like, what type

1027
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Speaker 9: of player are they? What type of energy do they

1028
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 9: bring right? Are they a high energy guy? Are they

1029
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Speaker 9: a raw ro guy? Are they go hit you in

1030
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Speaker 9: the face type?

1031
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Speaker 11: Do like?

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Speaker 9: What do they bring in that regard. So that's what

1033
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Speaker 9: I think about some of these personnel. That's why I

1034
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Speaker 9: bring these names.

1035
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Speaker 7: Are they willing to do whatever it is?

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Speaker 5: It's like, oh, I'm just about it exactly one of

1037
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Speaker 5: the I mean, out of the two guys they signed

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Speaker 5: yesterday or made the moves for yesterday. Mixed reports on

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Speaker 5: Rashan Garry, But for Jalen Thompson. I texted some of

1040
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Speaker 5: our friends over with the Arizona Cardinals said I love

1041
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Speaker 5: with seven to ohs seven O's in love. I love

1042
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Speaker 5: Jalen Thompson, nicest, most respectful and humble person. And then

1043
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Speaker 5: he said he's so great, played this entire year on

1044
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Speaker 5: a contract with no guaranteed money. He's smart, he's tough,

1045
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 5: and he deserves every bit of that money that is

1046
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Speaker 5: that is coming super high football like you. And that's

1047
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Speaker 5: even without him stepping within the building.

1048
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Speaker 10: Firstatle a sure tackler, I mean, he finishes plays and

1049
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 10: his solo tackle numbers are proof of that.

1050
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Speaker 7: Over his entire.

1051
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Speaker 5: Career, he split almost evenly three different areas in the

1052
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Speaker 5: In his alignment as safety, he had free, strong and nickel.

1053
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Speaker 5: He played a lot of nickel two hundred and thirty

1054
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Speaker 5: plus naps and nickel back, and so you're gonna use

1055
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Speaker 5: him a lot in a couple different areas for that

1056
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Speaker 5: that backside.

1057
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Speaker 9: If I'm building his defense, I know we gotta get

1058
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Speaker 9: out here. I'm looking at my interior d lineman being dogs, right,

1059
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 9: my three down those guys, all three of them have

1060
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Speaker 9: to be dogs. I'm looking for my outside linebackers now, Okay,

1061
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Speaker 9: I need those guys to be straight. Just I need

1062
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 9: both sides to be goons, just menaces, just even if

1063
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Speaker 9: they're not dominant players. I need them to be you know,

1064
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Speaker 9: you know, cohonas to the wall type people every single

1065
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Speaker 9: play just pests.

1066
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Speaker 3: Right.

1067
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Speaker 9: I need my interior linebackers to be intellectual guys, sure

1068
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 9: tacklers that are smart as all get out, and I

1069
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Speaker 9: need my secondary to be versatile. That's that's how I

1070
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Speaker 9: would build this team. Right, So that's exactly how I

1071
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Speaker 9: would look at this. Now, if you can't go get

1072
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Speaker 9: and we seem to have possibly missed out on some

1073
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Speaker 9: of those just game changing type players, But now, I

1074
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Speaker 9: think you can still formulate your team in this way. Right,

1075
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Speaker 9: you have your three down guys already, I think you

1076
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Speaker 9: can still add to that there are some veteran guys

1077
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Speaker 9: that maybe towards the end of their career that can

1078
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Speaker 9: add to that depth.

1079
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Speaker 3: Right, there's some big boys out there.

1080
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Speaker 9: Klaias Kalaias Campbell's out there, You got Cameron Jordan out there.

1081
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Speaker 9: You got some guys that like all those guys are old. Yeah,

1082
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Speaker 9: but if they're going to be the second wave of

1083
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 9: your D line, that's a hell of a second line

1084
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 9: to bring in. And what do they bring to your

1085
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 9: locker room? What did they bring to ed Deep three?

1086
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Speaker 9: That's what I'm talking about. When you start adding these

1087
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Speaker 9: depth pieces. Have your starters, but then behind them have

1088
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Speaker 9: some consistent, smart, intellectual guys that can get their job done.

1089
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Speaker 3: Maybe not to the way they.

1090
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Speaker 9: Used to because they were big time star players, but

1091
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Speaker 9: they can still make huge contributions.

1092
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Speaker 5: Just because I teased it, I want to go through

1093
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Speaker 5: the NFC East real quick and kind of talk about

1094
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 5: what happened yesterday.

1095
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Speaker 3: Of course we talked about the Cowboys.

1096
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Speaker 5: They were the only team that did not lose a

1097
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Speaker 5: free agent to another team in the NFC East.

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Speaker 3: And I believe in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: I think that either waynybody good or bad, whatever that

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Speaker 5: ends up being the Eagles, however, a lot, Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 5: they did not sign anybody. Them and the Packers are

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Speaker 5: the only two teams that did not sign any free

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Speaker 5: agency yesterday, or at least to greet the terms. They

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Speaker 5: did extend Jordan Davis that he did to tackle, but

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Speaker 5: they lost Jalen Phillips, Nikobe Dean Reid Blankingship and Johan Doatson.

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Speaker 5: So those are three or four really good players that

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Speaker 5: they are not going to have. The Giants were very busy.

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Speaker 5: They signed Isaiah Likely to tie end, and signed linebackers

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Speaker 5: and Edmonds. They signed safety Ardarius Washington. They signed a

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Speaker 5: new punter in Jordan Stout, and they re signed a

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Speaker 5: couple of their guys offensive lineman and a wide receiver.

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Speaker 5: They lost Wandale Robinson, Cordell Flatt, and Daniel Bellinger.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Of course they have new new leadership with John Harball

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Speaker 5: and company.

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Speaker 3: What was that Robinson got cast out? Yes he did? Yeah, good,

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Speaker 3: good for him.

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Speaker 5: And then the Commanders signed a dafe O Way. They

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Speaker 5: signed corner of Meek Robertson. They signed defensive tackle Tim

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Speaker 5: Settle from the Texans, and then they re signed Marcus

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Speaker 5: Mariota and they extended one of their offensive linemens.

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Speaker 3: At least they lost on alec Pearce.

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Speaker 5: They did lose out on it.

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Speaker 3: Now you don't have to worry about Pierce opposite scary Terry. Yes.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 5: The one guy they did lose was a guy they

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Speaker 5: cut and a former cowboy, Tyler Biotische.

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Speaker 3: He goes to the Chargers for three years and good

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Speaker 3: for him. By the way, he got a little bit.

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Speaker 3: You have noticed that our former centers have gotten paid.

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Speaker 3: Who are you talking about an interior lineman? Beatis uh

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Speaker 3: McGovern mc govern mc govern.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I literally said, you're watching. I'm like our our scouting department.

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Speaker 5: They know how to pick limbat or lineman, offensive lineman.

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Speaker 3: They got that one down.

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Speaker 5: All right. That does it for us? Here on talking

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Speaker 5: cowboys being back down Tuesday with more. Can't wait to

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Speaker 5: have it, Isaiah, love you body. I just don't love

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Speaker 5: to see hawks. That's about it, all right, We'll be

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Speaker 5: back Tuesday plenty more to break down. I'm sure it'll

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Speaker 5: be a whole another week of craziness between now and

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Speaker 5: then for Patrick Nocy, Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah stand back

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Speaker 5: Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yoman, saying so

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Speaker 5: long from talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you next week.

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