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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.

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Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama, Girl Drama, Girl,

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Speaker 2: all about them.

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Speaker 1: High school queens. We'll take you for a ride. And

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Speaker 1: our comic girl shared for the right teams.

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Speaker 3: Drama, Queens, Jay Up Girl Fashion, but you'll tough.

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Speaker 2: Girl, You could sit with us. Girl Drama, Queens Drama,

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Speaker 2: Queise Drama, Queens Drama, Drahna, Queens Drama.

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Speaker 1: Queens Friends Loves Willington Crewe. We are back with Jana Kramer.

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Speaker 1: We basically did the Thursday therapy wind down version in

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Speaker 1: our Q and A. You all sent in amazing questions

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Speaker 1: for her, and sorry, we just really talked about life

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Speaker 1: and I'm not sorry because I'm sure you're deeply inspired.

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Speaker 1: But today we are back to talk about the actual

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Speaker 1: episode and Jana is here for seven oh six. Let's

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Speaker 1: dig in, Janna, will you read this snow up.

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Speaker 3: So, Hailey considers taking matters into her own hands as

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Speaker 3: Nathan's scandal threatens his endorsement deals. Julian gives Alex another chance,

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Speaker 3: and Brooke reconnects with Chase. Millicent questions whether she has

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Speaker 3: what it takes to be a model, while clay Let's

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Speaker 3: Quinn in on a big secret.

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Speaker 2: Director Janis Cook, writer Mike Daniels.

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Speaker 1: We love it. In this episode is called Deep Ocean

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Speaker 1: Vast Sea, which tracks honestly because there is a lot

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Speaker 1: of each time happening here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really beautiful. It made me miss Wrightsville right.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: I was saying on one of our previous episodes, how

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Speaker 1: much fun I've been having watching the Brook Alex Millie dynamic.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, I want this. I want a movie.

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Speaker 1: I want us to have a show like I want

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Speaker 1: this buddy comedy. Do it?

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Speaker 2: Don't you think? Uh, don't twist my arm?

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Speaker 1: Okay, great? Can you tell the fans before we jump

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Speaker 1: into the episode, how how did season seven come about

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Speaker 1: for you? Like, where did the casting call come from?

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Speaker 1: Give us a little bit of background on your audition process.

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Speaker 1: You told us a little bit in our Q and A,

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Speaker 1: but I want to know.

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Speaker 2: More, Okay.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I auditioned for Chantelle's character Quinn, and then

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Speaker 3: when I was I got the callback for Quinn. And

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Speaker 3: when I was in the callback, the producers and creator said, hey,

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Speaker 3: I think you're more fit for this character named Alex.

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Speaker 3: She's just a guest star recurring role, which you know,

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh man, I really wanted to be

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Speaker 3: the same time, you know, they don't see me for

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Speaker 3: there and you know those rooms I miss I missed

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Speaker 3: again I wouldn't not never have had the chance to do.

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Speaker 3: Now when we do like these self tapes, that just

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Speaker 3: so just kind of you know, do your thing player cards,

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Speaker 3: And then it was like, all right, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and my god, you did. I mean we

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Speaker 1: takes all around. You just are the most fun person

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Speaker 3: Well that's what's so fun is like now looking back

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Speaker 3: when I was watching the episodes, is like the dynamic

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Speaker 1: You know, like a guy has never done that before.

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Speaker 3: Like normally like they would. So I'm just like, Wow,

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Speaker 1: It's well, it's such a boldness. It's like, would I

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Speaker 1: Do I respect the boldness of someone who can with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's where I was like, I remember talking

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Speaker 1: I love that. That was very much the journey I

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Speaker 1: Like that phrase for Alex was true for you, and

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Speaker 1: Do you remember your first day on set or is

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Speaker 3: I do remember it. It was it wasn't with you.

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Speaker 1: Me too, and I've never gotten to do it.

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Speaker 3: And so that was like, oh, like I kind of

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Speaker 1: You sweet Angel. I mean, I just adored you immediately,

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Speaker 3: this Oliver was it Oliver?

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Speaker 3: And you I saw this it was like this ring.

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Speaker 3: and you're like you should get it, like it's so great,

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Speaker 3: and I just started getting you know, decent checks, you

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Speaker 3: I was just like, oh, with Sophia, it's three hundred dollars,

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Speaker 2: Now, like you know, we need to get it.

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Speaker 3: And I was just like okay, But I remember just

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Speaker 3: now that like I've taken because it's like but like

438
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 3: back in the day, I would have never I would

439
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:06,400
Speaker 3: have never thought that.

440
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 1: Like y'all I was. I was just like, what is

441
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 1: going on? And they're having their chemistry's building and they're

442
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 1: having these sweet conversations and he's just got his suede

443
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 1: loafers on.

444
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 2: In the end, I'm not like, I'm not good, that's amazing.

445
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 1: But I really enjoy I really enjoy their dynamic. And

446
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 1: I liked finally getting to see because we've seen in

447
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 1: the episodes building up to this, you see the reveal

448
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 1: that they're not actually sleeping together, that they're just leaning

449
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 1: on each other. You know, Clay has something building, and

450
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 1: now you know the blonde no spoilers has showed up

451
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 1: and there's something going on here. We know about Quinn

452
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 1: and David, obviously, we don't know about Clay and this

453
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 1: woman yet, but we know he's got a pain point,

454
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 1: and you've seen them build this friendship and talk about

455
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 1: the fact that they're not screwing around, right And then

456
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: when Quinn goes at Nathan and calls him on it

457
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: in this episode, I was like, guess girl, he has

458
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 1: absolutely no right to judge you.

459
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 3: I love this, yes, one thousand, and I love how

460
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 3: Nathan then came and apologized and said that what he

461
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 3: said too to Quinn. But also like I love watching

462
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 3: Rob and Chantelle's scenes together because I also, you know,

463
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 3: they were such good friends off camera too, and so

464
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 3: it was just like their well, how how their storyline

465
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 3: progresses is I've just I always loved I don't know,

466
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 3: just like there's like there's truth into it, and it's

467
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 3: I think it's just a beautiful relationship on an off screen. Yeah.

468
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 1: It's nice all these years past doing it to have

469
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 1: the ability to watch it and go, oh, I can

470
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 1: see the seeds of that, like, yeah, I can see

471
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 1: you me and Lisa having so much fun together because

472
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: we did. Yeah, I can see the easy friendship budding

473
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: between Rob and Chante well because it did. Yeah, And

474
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: it's it's special when those things translate because they add

475
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 1: just like a layer of something that's bigger than what's

476
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: on the page.

477
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're both you know, great actors too. But

478
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 3: there's what I like about both of them is there's

479
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 3: that mystery, like you kind of said, and there's a

480
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 3: that's that's what's intriguing to go, wait, well, who's the

481
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 3: blond again? And so I'm like, all right, So I'm

482
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 3: you know that kind again is like that I know

483
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 3: now because it's a refreshment memory obviously, but like that

484
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 3: there's both of them bring a kind of a beautiful

485
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 3: mystery thread through the through the story.

486
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And I just enjoy all of the scenes.

487
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: You know, I know we talked about it earlier, but

488
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 1: I really want to focus on it for a bit.

489
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: You and Austin are so good together. And even you

490
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: freaking out in the house walking around behind him when

491
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: he's reading the script and you're like, it's supposed to

492
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: be funny, you're not laughing, and he never looks up

493
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 1: and goes, maybe I'm laughing on the inside.

494
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

495
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: I just love I love the dynamic. I love the relationship.

496
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: It's a date, it's work, it's a date. It's a

497
00:23:59,359 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 1: working date.

498
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,479
Speaker 2: Date ish date ish.

499
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so good.

500
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 3: But also I think that was the friendship too, Like

501
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 3: we were all roommates and it was roomies, and like

502
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 3: that's why I think, like Austin and I worked so

503
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 3: well together this past you know, spring summer, it was

504
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: because it's like there's that that friendship, that connection there

505
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 3: that's just like and even so even on set when

506
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 3: I was with them a couple of months ago. I'm like,

507
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 3: was that okay? Like like I don't know, Like it's

508
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 3: just like, you know, be able to like work play

509
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 3: off of each other. It's just it was it was fun.

510
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 3: It was like he's one of my all time favorite

511
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 3: scene partners. So and through that, like Alex Julian, it's

512
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: like he let me have some fun and also he

513
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 3: helped me along the way too, and a lot of scenes,

514
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 3: you know, moving forward in the episodes.

515
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh I love that so much?

516
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 3: Is it?

517
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: Do you have sense memory when you watch certain scenes?

518
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 1: Like sometimes when we pan across the river, I'm like, oh,

519
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: my god, I can smell Wilmington when I watch this,

520
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 1: or oh I remember being in that set because we

521
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: broke in the middle of that scene and I remember

522
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: getting in so much trouble. We can stop laughing. Like

523
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: are there things watching these episodes that come up for

524
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: you like that?

525
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

526
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 3: The where we shot my hotel room scenes was in

527
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 3: the was in the what's that called the My gosh,

528
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: it was on one of the stages, right, it was

529
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: theeat on the stage. It built it, so they built

530
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 3: it on the stage and you know, our trailers just

531
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 3: were outside there and you know, it just brought back

532
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 3: all the memories of I mean from catering to the

533
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 3: offices were right there and then but to us like

534
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 3: hanging out you know on our chairs outside just outside

535
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: that door was just the open stage, you know, like

536
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 3: there wasn't much else there and so you know, just

537
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 3: the times that were had when they yelled cut checked

538
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 3: the gate at the time, So like that was that

539
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 3: those memories were were awesome and just you know, yeah,

540
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 3: I mean there was so many times too where we

541
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 3: would just have to cut because we're laughing, you know,

542
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 3: and like that's just the joy of the fun had

543
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 3: on set. Was was that? But I think, yeah, my

544
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 3: favorite memories was was working on my in my stage

545
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 3: with the hotel.

546
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting too to begin to see the dynamic shift.

547
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: The buddy comedy of Alex and Millie is so fun.

548
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: She's great.

549
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 3: I didn't like I knew Lisa was a great actress obviously,

550
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 3: but like like kind of like you had said, I

551
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 3: was listening to a previous episode and you were saying,

552
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 3: you know it's or no, maybe it was Rob like

553
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 3: you know, you like acting with you don't get to

554
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 3: like watch, or maybe it was on your voice note,

555
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 3: but you don't. You don't get to like actually watch

556
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 3: and so now watching it, I'm like, Lisa is so

557
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 3: like she had me cracking up, Like I'm like, she's

558
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 3: so funny.

559
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 1: She's incredible, Like I would have loved to see Lisa

560
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 1: on SNL one thousand.

561
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: Well, she's like, what is she doing? Still? Like I

562
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: haven't I've lost touch with her. So I'm like, is

563
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 2: she still acting like.

564
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: We we we all keep trying to find her. Really

565
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: I don't, Yeah, I don't know. I like I tried

566
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: to hunt down Brendan.

567
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: Like she's not at a conventions, Like I like don't

568
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 3: know where. I don't know where she's at.

569
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: None of us miss her. Girl smoke signals we're coming

570
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: for you. Oh my god, could you imagine you and

571
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: you and me like tweel dumb and tweetledd at the

572
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: front door, like, hey.

573
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: Girl, around you finding Lisa. There's our show? Oh my god.

574
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 1: Honestly I'm so ready for it. But like there's something

575
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: so precious. You guys are so funny and so sweet

576
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: and and because as you said, Alex doesn't there's not

577
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: like a mean bone in her body. She thinks everything

578
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: she's doing and saying is okay. The the cringe I felt,

579
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: I mean, especially the time period. My god, calling Lisa

580
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: Goldstein plus size is like, oh, I'm like, no wonder

581
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: we all had such insane like body confidence issues. Also

582
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: like more power to him? Is anyone on earth hotter

583
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: than Ashley Graham?

584
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 3: No?

585
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: But right the the time was so hard on women

586
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: and so toxic for us, and yet this toxicity was

587
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: coming through Alex as this like incredibly sweet person. Who

588
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: didn't you didn't say it in a mean way. You

589
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: didn't mean it in a mean way. But you start

590
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: to see how depending on the way someone feels, someone

591
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: else's words affect them. And the beginning of this storyline like,

592
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: I don't know.

593
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 2: It just it's hard.

594
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 3: It's a hard one to watch, yeah, because you know,

595
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: well we know how it ends up with, you know,

596
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 3: with her and and how like you know the road

597
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: that she takes and that self doubt, Like she didn't

598
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 3: think that she had any body issues until I said

599
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 3: something different to her. So then now she's believing, you know,

600
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 3: that's that now becomes her her truth when it's not

601
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 3: her truth, it's the world telling her something as he

602
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 3: and that's sad.

603
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: It's so sad.

604
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: And that's where I'm always like, even like as a

605
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 3: parent too, I'm like, the world is going to tell

606
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 3: you so many mistruths, which is why I'm constant like

607
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 3: you are good enough, you are brave, you are strong,

608
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: you're beautiful. It's like, because everyone else is going to

609
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 3: tell you everything that's not true, so let me be

610
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 3: the one to tell us. I'm like, oh, that that

611
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 3: like hurt watching is like an adult.

612
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: No, it hurt me too. And it's like, it's what

613
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: you were saying earlier that Alan always says, right, what's

614
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: in our four walls? Like for you to be able

615
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: to teach your kids that what's in your four walls

616
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: is what's true, Yeah, it's so important because the world's

617
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: going to be terrible to them. I mean what we

618
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: did to Millie. By the way, Ash and Sammy watched

619
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: with me yesterday and ash goes diet pills. Why And

620
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: I said, well, because when you went in the other room,

621
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: you missed the point, like they were saying.

622
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: Wait, so Ashley knows who I am.

623
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: She sure does, and she and I go, you know

624
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: essentially what they're saying, and like, obviously it's ridiculous. But

625
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: like this character is telling this character like, oh, I'm

626
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: the model and you're the plus size model, and she

627
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: goes no, like screamed at the top of our lungs,

628
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, welcome to tree Hill. This

629
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: is why everyone had a complex. You're welcome. Oh yeah, yeh.

630
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: But I appreciate that that this thing that is so hard,

631
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: like that makes us all cringe, is not delivered with

632
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: malice on your part, Like it was such a good

633
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: choice for you to continue that stream of consciousness that

634
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: they had no mal intent, because you begin to see

635
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: the way people are affected rather than necessarily the way

636
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: people are like bullied. And I like that it wasn't bullying,

637
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: that it was that it was personal fear exactly.

638
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like inside too, like I'm taking these dive

639
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 3: pills because I'm told that I need to be skinny, right, yeah, Well, and.

640
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: You see how this toxic system just is hurting everybody.

641
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: And I like that.

642
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: We also got the behind the scenes with her in

643
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: that beautiful scene with mouth where she just starts to cry.

644
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wrote it down.

645
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: I said, the fact that Millie's crying about her body

646
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: is so fucking sad. To me, they did this to

647
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: all of us, like that's in my notes, but that

648
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: thing when she says it made me feel special.

649
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: Well, but also though I would just want to say

650
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 3: this too, is like they did that to us. But

651
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 3: also even in this show, like I remember one of

652
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 3: the scenes moving forward where I have to be in

653
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 3: like lingerie, it was I didn't have like the flattest stomach,

654
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: and so there was some words said that made me

655
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 3: feel like, oh, we need a higher wasted because this

656
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Speaker 3: isn't going to look good on camera. And so then

657
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: my head goes, oh because I have a stomach. Yeah

658
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 3: I know, like I know, and so you know we're

659
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 3: also told in our workplaces too.

660
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, that's the thing is it's relentless and

661
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: no matter what you are, you're not the right thing. Yeah, like,

662
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: oh you're you're pale, you should be tan, you're tan?

663
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: Why why are you getting sun damage? You're like whatever

664
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Speaker 1: it is, it's terrible.

665
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Speaker 3: Do we remember my sun damage? By the way, we

666
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 3: can't know this is a way later episode, but do

667
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 3: you remember Puerto Rican? So we my member, I got

668
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 3: burn in my entire Oh you're sun burn? Yeah remember

669
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: the sunburn? And like it peeled off of my face.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

671
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Speaker 2: Yeah, terrible. That was the worst.

672
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think that, like the way we were

673
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: treated on camera and off was so crazy. But the

674
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Speaker 1: thing that I thought was so beautiful that I felt

675
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: like they gave to Millie but was so true for

676
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: the rest of us, was like I have felt competent

677
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: and smart and capable and reliable, but never special. And

678
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: I feel like women feeling special in that era, the

679
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: people in power always perceived as dangerous, and I love

680
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: that now, whether it's the way body positivity has changed,

681
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: or like even you know, you see Simone and Jordan

682
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: like bowing down out to the Brazilian gymnast, like yeah,

683
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: all the girlies, we're all here together in a new way,

684
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: and I'm I don't know, I love it and I

685
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: love I love that we get to sort of be

686
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: here in that era for each other, too, agreed. And

687
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: that mouth was there for Milly in that moment and

688
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: put her little shoe on like a Cinderella.

689
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: Moment right well, And that mouth was not only there

690
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: for a Millie, but that were how he showed up

691
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 3: for Nathan too, because he it's really easy to be

692
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 3: able to jump on the wagon of what media is

693
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 3: talking about and you know that being his friend, and

694
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 3: so it's easy in these day and age to be like, yeah,

695
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: well sources say or you know, because we're close to

696
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 3: certain people that you know, we know or whatever. But

697
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 3: in this situation, where can sports like can this show

698
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: just be about sports? And does why does it have

699
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 3: to be like just you know, talking about things that

700
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: we have no idea or having an opinion about something

701
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 3: we don't know, you know, And when.

702
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: You see the way that running with a lie will

703
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: legitimize it, like you saw it with the boxer from Algeria,

704
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: that poor woman, like everybody just ran with this nonsense

705
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: about her during the Olympics. And it was really interesting

706
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: watching this episode this week because it felt so timely

707
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: to have mouth say we're not going to do that.

708
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: We're not going to legitimize a falsehood by reporting on

709
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: it for clicks, for ratings. Come on, and you kind

710
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: of wish, kind of wish the media I would do

711
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: a little more of that, don't you.

712
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm always like just what is the truth.

713
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 3: That's why I'm like, because I've even come to you

714
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 3: on certain things and be like, this is what I'm

715
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: this is what I hear and what I've been, you know, told,

716
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 3: what is like? I just want to know what the

717
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 3: actual facts are, Like, what are the facts like? Yeah,

718
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: from like but there's a fact from there's facts from

719
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 3: two different sides. I just want to know the the

720
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 3: one fact.

721
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the actual fact, not the alternative fact?

722
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 3: Yeah?

723
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: Like what is just actually the fact?

724
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 3: And that's where I'm like, That's where I feel like

725
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 3: it's hard to live in this day and age because

726
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: there are facts from both from so many places, and

727
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 3: I just would like to know the one.

728
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and then it gets really juicy, right because Dan,

729
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: you start to realize what's his angle here, you know,

730
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: and the fact that Rachel has to come in to

731
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: try to convince Renee. It's so well done because I remember,

732
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: again not trying to spoil it for any first time viewers,

733
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: but I remember where this goes, and they were so

734
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: good at weaving these possibilities. Dan saying, you know, I

735
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: want him to be better than I was. I don't

736
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: want it to take him sixteen years to claim his

737
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: other child. I did exactly this, He's my son. And

738
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: then Rachel's sitting down and being like give me a break,

739
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: Nathan blow him off, and he's here to bury him

740
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: and help you, and you're just like, what is happening?

741
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: Who's telling the truth? I mean, this is why I

742
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: get why the show works.

743
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: It's juicy, and I'm like, I want to go back

744
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 3: now now that I've watched a few and like, Okay,

745
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 3: what happens again?

746
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: Like okay, well, good keep watching and then you can

747
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: bop in here and hang with us more and more. Selfishly,

748
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that I got you all to myself

749
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: this week, and I know Robin so bummed to not

750
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: be here, so you'll have to come back and get

751
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: to hang.

752
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love to.

753
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 3: You would love to when when you guys want me back,

754
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 3: it's always fun to rewatch it and drag Alan to

755
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 3: watch it with me.

756
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,479
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I do have We got this question,

757
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: perhaps more than any other question when we told the

758
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: fans that you were coming. Everyone wants to know what

759
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: you think Alex du Pray is up to now.

760
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, I love that question, and that is

761
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 3: why I want to do a show. I think she's

762
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 3: still trying to find her way, but like in the

763
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 3: best way possible, like I don't think she's lost, but

764
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 3: I think she's just kind of like on her eat

765
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 3: Prey Love right now, figuring it out. And I know

766
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 3: that she's going to have like the happy but I

767
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 3: think she's still like she's kind of still figuring it out.

768
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 3: I don't think she's a mom yet.

769
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Speaker 1: Okay, do you think is Alex like like Jana in

770
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: real life? Is she a multi hyphen it? Is she

771
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: also making music?

772
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 3: Is she? Yes, she's doing all the things. She's doing music,

773
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: she's doing movies, she's going through men, she's you know,

774
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 3: she's she's doing she's doing it all. I love it.

775
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 3: But she's gonna slow down soon. But first she has

776
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 3: to have a show about all the things.

777
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we need to see her have some wild times.

778
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, that feels fun.

779
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 2: But she she's not into like she's not in the gutter.

780
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: She's not.

781
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 3: She's still sober. She's still doing uh Lime, like you know,

782
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 3: the lime shots with water you know, and just you know,

783
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 3: she's still trying trying to tie cherry ties like you

784
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like that's her thing. Yeah, she's

785
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 3: still lively.

786
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's still fun, but she's she's responsible.

787
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ish Ish state Ish ha Ish always ansh with her.

788
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Speaker 1: What an absolute delight you are. Thank you so much

789
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: for coming friends. We will see you next week for

790
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 1: season seven, Episode seven.

791
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 3: I and Love and you all right, girl, you're the best.

792
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

793
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Thank you, I appreciate you.

794
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: Talk to you soon.

795
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Speaker 2: Bye, Hey, thanks for listening.

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