WEBVTT - "Phish" w/ Josh Sharp 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:24.640 Okay, podcast starts. Now, what's up everyone. You are listening 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:27.560 to Stradio Lab. We are in New York City live 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:29.680 from Times Square. George still reeling. 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:31.520 You're not allowed to speak. 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:37.239 Sorry, Josh is being silenced. He said something poetic right 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:40.519 before we started recording, and I said, not on my watch. 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:42.960 I actually am. It's like one of the most beautiful 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:43.920 things I've ever heard. 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:45.040 Do you want to say what it was? 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:48.040 I said, you know, we're getting prepared. Usually we'd explained 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:50.400 the podcast of the guests. This time, none of them 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:52.199 have ever listened. Sorry. I just had a moment in 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:54.600 the middle of that sentence where I remembered I'm being recorded. 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:56.240 Do you ever? 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:58.480 I was just like I was truly on autopilot. I 0:00:58.480 --> 0:00:59.640 was like, all right, I should like try to be 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:05.200 charming anyway. So I'm Andy Cohen and welcome to watch 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:05.840 what Happens live? 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.480 Or this is not how you act? What the hell whatever? 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:09.000 Keep going? 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:12.400 So I would say, I said, you know, I said 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:14.000 to Josh, you know, you know the drill, like you 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:16.600 know how this works. And Josh said, oh, I know 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:20.160 the drill. The drill is a warm bath. The drill 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.360 is a warm drill, and then, of course Josh wisely 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.720 said that apples that's the title of Fiona Apple song. 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:29.120 And here we are and here we are. 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:30.959 So now that we've covered. 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:34.479 That, what I think is, can I say something briefly, fine, 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:40.160 so the listener remember in one thing and I'm done. 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:43.120 Remember to the listener. Every beginning to you is actually 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:46.800 in media stress to us, like you are seeing your hosts, 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:50.200 your friends in the middle of something, and that is 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:51.920 keep in throwing. 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.360 Yeah, you never done, I'm not going through. People don't 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:56.880 give us enough credit for when we say podcast starts now, 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:58.440 it actually started ten minutes before that. 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:00.880 People don't give us enough credit for pretty much most 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:03.560 things that we do. People don't realize that everything we 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:06.920 do is an insurmountable mountain that we are in the 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:11.440 middle of, bleeding from all holes and trying to climb. 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:13.920 And at the peak it says, I heart music. 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.520 I have to say that this run of recordings we 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.640 have been, you know, it has I'm like, oh, is 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:21.440 this what it's like to be Julia Roberts. You know, 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.840 it's sort of like that like club Club Another Club, 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:25.600 Airplane air. 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:30.600 Julia Roberts famously Club Club Another Airplane's doing the midnight 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:33.440 DJ set, she is going to the gay bar, she's 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.000 performing at Fort Lauderdale Pride. 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.120 I'm mixing metaphors and that's okay. 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.320 What if they book Julia Roberts at Fort Lauderdale Pride 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:44.280 and she did like the monologue from Pretty Women that 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:45.440 but it was never explained. 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:47.680 We actually need to talk about do gay guys care 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:51.480 about Julia Roberts at all? What the hell? It's a 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:57.200 valid question. I think she is not disrespected enough actually 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.040 identity for gay guys to actually care that much. 0:02:59.120 --> 0:02:59.400 Visit. 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:00.840 You are so right. 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:04.040 She has never had an underdog narrative. Yeah, she she 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:05.760 has been that girl from the beginning. 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.560 So everyone's like, yeah, she's good, like she's beautiful, she's amazing, 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:09.880 But there's not that emotional. 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.800 No gay guy is saying, my favorite actress is Julia Roberts, 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.360 even though of course when push comes to shove, she 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:17.119 is one of the great American actresses. 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:18.519 You know what they're saying, this will be brief, and 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:22.320 then I'm okay, Josh, they're saying Aaron Brockovich is my 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.079 favorite actress. They're not saying Julia Robert says. 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:26.480 Because Aaron Brockwick is an Underdog. 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:27.519 Thank Aaron. 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:31.280 I'm done. I'm done. I won't talk. We can hate 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:32.119 our guest today. 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:33.880 Yeah, I'm like so annoyed. 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:36.720 It's like we like, so what what What our listeners 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:38.839 will understand is that the podcast actually starts tending this before. 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.560 And what our guest doesn't understand is actually it started 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:43.200 like way before he even got here. 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:45.760 Like you think you're the third co host. 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.600 You think you're just like just to sit here, to cook, 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:52.040 to cut one to It's like I should get to 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:55.720 come in at that point, but I just think, give me, 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:57.000 let me key grip or something. 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.880 You're ignoring the like do you want to check the shots? 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:01.920 I would love to. I love to checking the gate. 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:03.840 I die to check the gate. 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:10.160 I think I do think there is something very particular 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:14.200 about not having a role, you know what I mean, 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:18.359 like being in a liminal space between roles. Before we 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:22.560 started recording, you were the role of friend. When we 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:24.440 introduce you, you will be in the role of guest. 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.279 Right now you are nothing nothing. 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.599 But is that sort of sensory deprivation in a way, 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:31.640 like are you finally free? 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.520 Yeah, it's free, Well it's free, but in another sense, 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:36.680 you keep fighting in a subspace. 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.960 If you were actually trying to touch me, if you're 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.480 actually feeling liberated, you would be basking in the silence. 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:44.800 But I can see you wanting so badly to have 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:45.440 a different role. 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:48.760 Well, you know what's he's asking for us to say? 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:52.480 No, Piggy, I hope I've never brought in. Quite frankly, 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.760 I think perhaps the whole episode exists in this. 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:59.360 You know, we used to have the We used to 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.800 have the brave read, the hutzpah and the punk rock 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.400 sensibility to do that. Josh, what happened to our punk 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:05.080 rock sinsibility? 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:05.599 What? No? 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.120 Because as soon as you said that, I went up 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:09.120 with the iHeart Literally as soon as you said we 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.479 should do the entire episode like that, my instinct was like, well, 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:13.960 we can't. We should bring him in soon. Whereas if 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:17.520 this was twenty twenty, if this was May twenty twenty, 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:20.159 I would be like, that is so fucking badass, Like. 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:22.120 Let's do it something really funny. 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:25.760 Never introduced a topic. Never promote what you're here to 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.000 promote exactly, which I'm not gonna say, no. 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:29.200 Nora, I'm not on yet. 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:31.280 Well, and why would we promote when our guest doesn't 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:31.600 even hear. 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.160 I'm not here, I'm not on, I don't exist. 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:35.039 What were you gonna say? 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:37.000 Last night, somebody said they'd been listening to us since 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:38.720 twenty sixteen, and I was like, well, darling, we haven't 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.839 been on since twenty We started in twenty twenty. Time 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:42.440 is a flash. 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.760 Well there is something about all right, all right. 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.839 Twenty twenty was just twenty sixteen again, yeah, and twenty 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:49.920 twenty four is just twenty sixteen again, Like we're just 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:51.600 doing twenty sixteen. Hon over, it's gone a holl day 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:53.520 but for twenty sixteen. But twenty sixteen drag. 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:57.320 Yeah, there's finish. 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.800 Sorry, it's time to to twenty sixteen. 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:00.600 What do you make of this? 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:05.040 Yeah, Josh, be careful, Please be careful. 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:06.000 That was hard to set up. 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:09.200 So for anyone who's not watching on YouTube, where our 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:12.640 numbers are plummeting, by the way, what Josh just did is, well, they. 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:14.080 Can't plumb because they were never high. 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:17.080 Excuse me, they were never high because we never promoted it, 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:20.520 because we are sort of above it, and yet it's 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.880 out there, and yet it's out there. So what Josh 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.000 did for anyone not watching is he took the mic 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.320 and actually physically moved it away from himself, so that 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:30.919 even if he's tempted to participate in the conversation, he 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:34.480 can't physically. So now he's sort of evoking a kind 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:37.719 of meditation state that is actually it's actually being so 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.320 jittery that it's almost like an argument against meditation. 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:42.640 It's sort of like, oh damn, this guy really can't 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:43.000 sit still. 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:44.640 Yeah, it's like, oh my god, is he okay? 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:47.880 Yeah? They don't let him is a hard no self 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:51.760 harm incoming. I think we should bring in our guests. Please, 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:58.239 welcome to the show, our dear friend and whose show 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:03.760 is having a run Josh. By the time this is out, 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:04.960 you will know all about it. 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:07.640 You'll be all over www dot Josh sharp todaw dot 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:11.120 com the site absolutely and where is it until all 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:12.239 the time it's on the internet? 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.840 Sweetheart? Where is where the show at. 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:17.240 The Greenwich House? Some me all know what is the 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:19.440 Barrow Street? Sweeney Todd in the Pie Shop, But it's 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:21.920 at the Greenwich House Theater and beautiful West Village and 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:26.240 locks And you're playing Stonewall, playing Sweeney, I'm playing Sweeney yeah, 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:27.960 and missus Lovett and rap. 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.720 You're playing just to be clear. This is one of 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:34.160 those you know, like John Proctor is the villain and Juliet. 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:37.320 This is one of these contemporary reboots of a classic 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:40.840 musical that is the hero. Yes, Like it's more kind 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:44.760 of like woke and LGBT. Right, So it's about. 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:46.960 How a right to end at tea. 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:48.080 Yeah, there was no Q. 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.400 There's no I know, can. 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:54.720 I actually be an issue with Q? 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.680 Oh? Is your issue is a queer or is a question? 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:02.760 Yes? Yeah, but here's okay queer, right, but sometimes it's questioning. 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.280 But this, I'm sorry, this instinct is so anti Q, 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:10.040 Like Q is this all encompassing thing that is like 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:11.120 what isn't Q? 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.720 But Q being questioning? It's like I'm questioning if I'm 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:17.679 even Q. Like that's such a crazy meta narrator. 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.280 Show me someone who isn't question exactly if any of 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:23.400 the letters and you're not Q questioning you haven't seen 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:25.560 the matrix yet. Yeah, the point of being under the 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:26.920 umbrellas that we see the matrix. 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:30.000 Yes, it's like the implication that if you're LGB or 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.920 T you have this certitude. Yeah you're like, oh, yeah, 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:36.080 I'm firmly B, I'm firmly G. It's like, no, you're not. 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:38.400 The Q is like underneath all of them. 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:44.720 Yeah, yeah, it's the bedrock. It's the bedrock, Honey, it's 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.720 the bedrock. Q is to be queer, which is to 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:48.600 be LGBT. 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:49.520 I M plus. 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:51.800 You know, the question is the bedrock. The question is 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:56.640 the bedrock. The drill is a warm bath lead single, 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.240 The question is the bedrock, Josh. 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.080 I have a question. I have a queue. When it 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:01.560 comes to to. 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.480 Rock me, bitch, go ahead and bed rock me up 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:05.080 and down. 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:07.440 I'm just a rock your damn bed with this one. 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:14.440 Let's go insert. I can make your bedrock here. I 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:17.839 you know, the punk ok sensibility is of course complicated 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:19.439 because at this point you are trying to promote a 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:21.640 show that actually you have been working on. It actually 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:26.280 does have a week's long run and the months even months, 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.400 which is one of the longest weeks we have, you know, 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:32.800 I know, I know, And so it's sort of I 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:35.000 feel sort of mixed. I'm doing a bit about the 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.440 show and sort of misleading. No bits only, bits only. 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:39.000 I mean, I don't care, we can. 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:40.920 Do whatever, but you want to sell no tickets. 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.040 I want to sell it. I think the bits sell 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:43.640 the tickets. 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:45.240 You know what I mean, it's one of. 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:46.960 The well, but only if you then follow up with 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:47.960 what the show is like. 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.120 You're not craving a like. But seriously, the shows about 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:51.720 this and this and this. I think they want that 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.520 your people. I don't fucking know what they want. We 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.040 want our audience thinks we started in twenty sixteen. Yeah, 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:57.520 that's true. 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.840 Yeah, they're dealing with mentally. They're saying, get that orange 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:01.760 cheeto out of the way. 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:03.080 They're saying, get that cheat out. 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:08.319 Pants suit Nation Rise saying, hey at pants suit Nation. 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.720 I just discovered the podcast Stradio Lab These It's really 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:14.440 amazing LGBTQ plus guys and they talk about politics, media, 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:15.520 cultural criticism. 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:16.280 They would not have. 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:18.000 You. 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:20.760 If you think we need to get this orange cheeto 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:21.880 out of the way, it has you better give it 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:22.280 a look. 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:24.360 Like subscribe, like and subscribe. No, I don't. 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:26.559 I don't have a strong feeling I feel. 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:27.480 I I highly doubt that. 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.040 I feel like we will talk as we or I 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:31.920 guess the strong feeling is that we will talk as 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:33.800 we That like for us to do a sort of 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.480 you know, if we naturally do what's the show about? 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:36.680 Great? 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:37.240 If we don't. 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:38.640 Yeah, sure they're gonna get it. 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:40.280 They're gonna go to joshup to do dot com no 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:41.880 matter what and find out what it is. But I 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:44.720 guess canonically it's the off Broadway one man show that 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.120 so many of our our peers and ancestors have done 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:47.719 before us. 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:49.440 You are stepping into a rich tradition. 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:52.160 It's my iteration on that, you know what I mean. Yeah, 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.120 And there's a bit of a Medican seat within it, 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:57.920 so that it's not just me, you know, into the 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:02.319 microphone for eighty minutes that doesn't and yet that is 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:04.400 valid too. And I love some of those Ye for 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:06.400 me and my own punk cruck sensibility, I said, I 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:08.040 can't ultimately only do one of those. 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:10.600 Is the sort of a thing happening? You know? This 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.840 is something I wonder. Do you sometimes get suffocated by 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:14.640 the punk fok sensibility to not do the thing that 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:15.680 is the thing that everyone does. 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:18.640 Yes, And this is deep therapy talk of like how 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:20.960 much are you how much are you trying to explore 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:22.760 a un exports space and how much are you just 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:24.720 like standing in your own the way of your own success? 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:27.280 You know what I mean? How much are you going. 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:31.000 This should be weirder, wilder instead of you know, ultimately. 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.959 Just how much are you producing something and it's good? 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:36.920 And how much? And yet you have the instinct to 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.440 take a dump on it, to give it a twist. 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:42.400 And for me, it's often not even taking a dump 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:44.040 on it as much as it is what if you 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.679 made it harder and more inaccessible and in a way 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:49.600 that gets me going? But then I'm like, does anyone 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:50.440 put you like this? 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.120 You know what I mean? This is really hard to tell. 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:57.640 It's complicated. It's complicated. And we've answered that question as 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:00.439 we're now normal on this podcast? Are we? 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:02.840 Is this episode normal. 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:05.800 Already abnormal? 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:07.160 Yeah, we haven't introduced you. 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:09.240 We haven't. We haven't even done the interviewl we kind 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:10.400 of did we started. 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.240 Well, what if we just sit in the space between 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:17.920 introducing and not welcome to the podcasts? Sharp, Sam, this 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:21.720 is he is so pansutonation right now. You need to, 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.480 you know, sort of access this current state that we're 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:26.480 in where there's no democratic you know what you need? 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:28.320 You're still you're still nostalgic for Hillary. 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:29.880 You guys just think if you didn'tvote for Jill Stein, 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:31.520 like we would have a different country. 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:33.000 Do you know what Sam needs to do that he's 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:33.400 not doing? 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:37.360 What question? You think I'm not on the fucking bed rock? 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.160 You don't think I'm not rock bottom on this bed? Sam? 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:41.160 Are you not questioning? 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:43.000 I'm questioning everything. 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.599 See, I'm asking the question and that was declarative, isn't that? 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:47.480 So you're not questioning? 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:48.040 Question mark? 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:52.760 I'm not exclamation ever seen anyone? So first, Sam, are 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:54.120 you're not question Are you not questioning? 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:56.920 What about me makes you think I'm not? Oh? My god, 0:12:57.600 --> 0:12:59.280 you're not? Am I not doing it at all times? 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:01.360 You're doing an imp of exercise. And don't think I 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.160 don't know that. You think I don't know that that's 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.400 a name, but my room. I'll honor my rooms. 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.280 Wow to La and my present to stake a flag 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:11.320 and say I know this. I can't think of anything 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:13.360 more toxic and masculine. 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:17.520 I know this anything more g quite frankly, yeah, yeah, 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:21.160 wo G I thought you're a document GHP certitude of 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:24.520 the gh you know what I mean, the G the 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.960 wisdom of the l Oh my god, you guys, I 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:33.040 just figured out what GQ stands for gay questioning When 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:36.160 you're subscribing to GQ magazine you're subscribing to gay Question. 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:40.880 Yeah, that's what it all. Guys. That's awesome because they're like, like, 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.640 are you turned on by this? Yeah? For so many people, 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:44.840 GQ was gay question. 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:48.400 It was somebody of our community to get that and go, 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.760 I'm receiving this modality different than my peers. 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:53.520 No, you're getting the GQ and you're saying, I have 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:55.960 received the subliminal messages you are sending me and I 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:58.000 will be in fifteen minutes. 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:00.680 And you're going, wait, you don't all receive this this way, 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.400 like that moment that makes you realize you're the other 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:06.319 queer Q queer, you know, it's like, you're right, it's 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.520 gay questioning, it's questioning. 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:10.720 I actually think this is one of the smartest things 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:12.000 I've ever realized. 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:12.840 That g Q is gay question. 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:16.440 Yeah. Yeah, the drill is a warm bath the. 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.720 Gay question, because that's more Kim Petra's I'm sorry to 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:26.120 say that GQ is gay questioning is a little more 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:26.960 slow off Miami. 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:32.240 That's that's been done at Rose. Yeah. Whatever that's good. 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:39.040 Also, whatever that's good is whatever that that's good. 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:45.040 Respect, respect, g g q's gay questioning, and all of 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:47.680 this will be addressed in my show, which is Josh 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:52.560 Sharp shada toda, which doesn't stand for anything. 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.240 It's a word on its own. Yeah, are there multiple 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:58.360 a's and tada? Is it liken be t a hyphen 0:14:58.440 --> 0:14:59.520 d a all owercase? 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:01.840 Do you ever think of naming it tada for and 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:02.560 it's like a pup? 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:07.920 Oh God, call my lawyer. Is it too late to change? Oh? No, 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.840 I've made I mean, see that version of the show. 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:13.600 I'm selling out the Garden, Like what have I done? 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.280 You have to have a pun in the time. Okay, 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.480 I've got one to ghettoize myself at this at the 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:19.520 famed Gritwich House when I couldn't be playing the Garden. 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:20.960 Did you every think it was sort of going Chelsea 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.040 Handler mode and calling it to darfour? 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:27.880 Almost every day I wake up and consider going to 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.200 the mode, and I'm waiting in the day that I do. 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.040 It's over for y'all when I go Chelsea. 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:36.960 I have seen you go Chelsea Handler mode in private 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:38.520 spaces and I have burns from it. 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:39.920 Well, you have to keep some things to yourself as 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:42.160 a person in the public and the demi public, you 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:43.680 have to keep some things for yourself, you know. 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:47.040 Yeah, of course, A whole, because these one hundred to 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:49.840 two hundred people that know who we are, they'll take everything. 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:52.440 Oh they'll take They'll rip you limb from limb. 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.240 Are you kidding? Down to the bone. I saw what 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:56.960 they did to Britney spears. 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.840 Like a whale at the bottom of the ocean. Every 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.040 bit of the ecosystem that is the Stradio Lab fan 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:05.040 base comes in in their time, the predators, the Mitoplankton, 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.200 all of it comes until you are not but carcass. 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:10.240 They have been plotting since twenty sixteen. Trust Trust you 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:14.080 don't think we know what the what? What the riots 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:16.120 the January sixth started as it was literally in the 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:17.080 Straighter Lab discord. 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:19.600 It will live if you called your fans pantsuit nation. 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:21.520 There's a world in. 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.440 Winch the world and which that's another field a Apple. 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:25.040 There's a world. 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:27.200 There is a world in witch dot dot. It's actually 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:28.760 one of those Fiona Apple tracks that's so long, you 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:30.640 know how her album titles are so long. But then 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:33.600 people abbreviate it as there's a witch do Yeah, there's 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:35.640 like that. It's like it's like a poem she wrote, 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:37.120 and then she did a little drawing next to it 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:39.280 and it's dedicated to one of her dogs, the one 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:43.960 that has a terminal illness, the one they all If 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.520 you don't think, if you don't think every dog has 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:48.120 a terminal illness, I don't know what to tell you 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:50.160 don't know what to tell you. Clearly are not cute. 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:52.440 Because I have not aled it, not one moment, to 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:54.560 be honest, Like, being a dog is a terminal illness. 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:56.200 Yeah, like, let's start there. 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:58.280 The moment you have a dog, you're like, okay, clock 0:16:58.320 --> 0:16:59.080 stick in Yeah. 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:03.640 The sands of the Sands of Time talk about dog like, 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.280 is someone not comfortable when they don't have a role 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.240 a dog, Like when that dog is between friend and guests, 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:12.240 They're just like, but please give my life. Meeting this 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.440 cat is the entire thing is cue. Cats are obviously 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:17.080 the most cue. I mean they're just like. 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.480 Well they derive ultimately like certitude from the questioning. You 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:23.000 know they really the bad rock is strolling in cats. 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:26.679 We know this, we know this, we know this, we 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:27.800 know this, we know this. 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:32.600 When I meet like a person with a puppy, like 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:35.360 there is something sort of old show Girl where I'm 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:39.040 like you just wait, yeah, yeah, like, oh god, I've 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.960 seen it all Oh god, Yeah, you don't know what's 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:45.280 about to happen to your life. And it's it's funny 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.480 to be so young and to be able to have 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:49.679 that perspective and have this fun and be so lucky 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:54.480 and to be successful. I'm just dog. 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:58.439 I have a dog who's old. Should we do our 0:17:58.480 --> 0:17:59.000 first segment? 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:00.800 Oh my god, at. 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:04.280 Last the bath has been drawn. I sink in deeper. 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:09.800 I sink in deeper. Track hell today, Yeah, get thee 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:10.760 to the Greenwich House. 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:14.919 Get the pry abound at the Greenwich House seven times. 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:16.640 A week, seven times a week. 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:20.240 Because maybe too many times we were discussing this off, Mike, 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:22.800 but I could bring it on. I've never done one 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:27.520 of those runs, and it'll be curious to the something 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:30.720 this is? Did you read Jack Novak's New Yorker piece 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.320 when the special based on the show was coming out, Yes, 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:35.560 I did. Something I loved was when she talked in 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:37.159 about it, and this is good the cube the New 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:40.320 Yorker integral to the topic we'll be discussing later. She 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:43.199 talked about how she realized that doing an off Broadway 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:45.160 run was her birthright, and I read that and went 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.159 actually low key same and now here. 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:48.479 We are well. 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:49.720 No, it is sort of when are you going to 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:52.680 be chosen? Yeah. 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:54.320 And I was already working on this show at the time, 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:55.560 and I read that. I was like, wait, it should 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:57.239 be one of those. It turned a page for me 0:18:57.359 --> 0:18:57.919 quite literally. 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:01.040 Wow, that's nice. Huge. What's the journey for this thing 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:02.359 you're making? I said, it's that. 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:04.120 It's that wow. 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:06.600 And then and then and then the producers abound. 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:09.280 Oh, there are so many producers. 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:10.119 Oh God, to have. 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.600 A Mic and a Carlely. God, you'd be lucky to 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:13.600 have a Mic or a Carley. 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:16.280 Some people have both. 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:19.000 You're sneaking in the more traditional promotion. 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:20.800 I see you see how we're doing it in such 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:21.199 a que way. 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:22.280 That's such a cute. 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:25.480 It's very sort of the Little Women reboot. 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:31.320 Yeah, and which is why non linear. Yeah, it's oh yes, nonlinear. 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:33.800 It's gerwig as fuck the way I love. 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:37.040 The Little Little Little Women reboot. 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:39.399 It's so good. Okay, what else would we call it. 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:42.439 It's like, oh, there's a new miniseries that's great expectations, Like, oh, 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:44.000 they're rebooting, great expectations. 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:46.040 I'm being normal. 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:52.679 So, Josh, our first segment, as you well know, is 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:54.800 called straight Shooters and In this segment, we ask you 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:57.320 a series of rapid fire questions to gauge your familiarity 0:19:57.320 --> 0:19:59.080 with in complicity and straight culture, where you have to 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:00.639 choose one thing or another thing, and the one rule 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:03.080 is you can't ask any follow up questions. Understand how 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:03.800 the game works. 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:06.520 Now's the time where Q becomes illegal. 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:12.280 Sam, this is sort of the forties. This is yeah, okay, Josh, 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:15.720 A watched pot never boils? Or can you watch my 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:17.520 spot while I go to the toilet? 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:19.920 Uh? 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:22.240 A watched pot never boils? 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:27.520 Roy g bib or boy please give, Boy, please give? 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:34.440 French Revolution or NYC stench pollution, n icy stench pollution. 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:41.120 J W. Anderson or d W from Arthur, d W from. 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:45.960 Arthur good one though, okay? Pimple popping bids or simple 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:47.120 topping tips. 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:51.080 Popping bids, shopping at an H and M or choking 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:52.080 on an eminem. 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:55.480 Oh, choking on an M and M. Okay, defying gravity 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:58.119 or implying you're mad at me, implying you're mad at me? 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:01.159 No smoking or relax I was joking. 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:06.440 Relax I was joking that before that was a particularly 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:10.320 good round. So many of them evocative. A question will 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:12.480 not be asked, but a statement will be made. So 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:14.359 many of them colon evocative. 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:15.879 That's another exact. 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:19.000 The reviews are in so many of them evocative. 0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:21.320 So many of them colon evocatives. Wow, that's actually Kim 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:24.120 just trying to do THEODA apple, but she like sort 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:25.240 of doesn't quite get there. 0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:29.720 Yeah, honestly, if Kim p have a song called evocative. 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:40.359 Or a cockativeative Cambridge like she does, like her sort 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:43.600 of like literary horror album. 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:48.920 The medium is the sensual massage. That's that's good. 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:53.080 You could The medium is the massage she is writing down. 0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:58.159 Well, Josh stream, she's on the live streams. She is 0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:00.720 on the live stream and she's hard face. 0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:03.720 She's being like, seriously, you guys, you got a vote. 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:06.400 Kim has been listening since twenty sixteen. 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:08.520 Yeah, that was who I talked to last night, was Kim. 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:11.440 She came out to me and she was like, I've 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:12.920 always loved you since twenty sixteen. 0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:16.560 So Joshree rank each guest's performance on a scale of 0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:19.200 zero to one thousand doves. But now it's Blades of 0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:21.560 Grass and oulating on the album. 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:25.399 Well and Walt Whitman, of course, no, he is the 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:29.280 original cruising queer. Let's say that all y'all, all y'all 0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:31.359 Sniffies Queen's give it up to Walt Whitman. 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:32.320 He invisaged. 0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:35.159 Whitman would have absolutely gone off on. 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:37.960 No. He was literally like creating a location, being like 0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:40.040 it's the creek with all the boys that are shirtless white. 0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:43.960 Literally, the original Sniffies was blades of Grass. Let's say, wow, 0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:46.840 the original original sniffs was blades of And that's. 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:47.840 A perfude genius track. 0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:48.520 Exactly. 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:52.840 I'm fast, I contain multitudes of Sun's whole loads. 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:57.760 Yeah, exactly. Oh, I'm seeing our coffee is all flying. 0:22:57.480 --> 0:23:00.000 In coffee, thank you so much. 0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:05.800 Oh my god, oh this, oh my god, this so 0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:07.160 this I say this. 0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:11.119 Hey, cheers, cheers, cheers. Girls. 0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:14.120 Damn now you're left out. It's speaking, Oh my god, 0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:18.280 under your breath. Speaking of this has aaron to My 0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:20.160 favorite thing is that part? 0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:24.240 Yeah, Well, I love just to put sort of like 0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:27.960 a three year delay on lexicon for the most yes, yes, 0:23:28.000 --> 0:23:30.119 but it's like the things that are happening now in 0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:32.479 conversation for the most part. First of all, it's all 0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:35.280 a la carte. If you're slavishly devoted to every bit 0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:37.760 that the kids are saying, Oh, it's pathetic. You pick 0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:39.639 what works for you. But often I'm putting them in 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:43.240 a little lock box. Twenty sixteen, I'm putting them in 0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:45.480 a lock box and I'm saving them for three years 0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:47.680 from now. And that's one where I'm like, finally, let's do. 0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:50.160 I think I'm ready to do that part that Sam 0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:50.840 has a theory. 0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:52.800 I have a really exciting theory that I think you're 0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:56.200 gonna like, I think yos Queen is about to come back. 0:23:56.240 --> 0:23:58.240 See that's what I mean. We're getting the port who 0:23:58.240 --> 0:23:59.840 I'm like, absolutely, I'm down for that. 0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:02.720 When I heard I because I'm in a hotel currently 0:24:03.119 --> 0:24:05.320 and they have like in the elevator they have all 0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:07.879 these like fake buttons that have like letters on them 0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:09.520 and then some of them are highlighted and it says 0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:12.280 yas Queen, And I was like, that is the funniest 0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:15.360 thing I've I love ever seen. I love it. It's so back. 0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:18.000 If you looked at my phone, the amount of alarms 0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:20.160 are set. It's all alarms for four years from now. 0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:21.280 Remember to bring back this. 0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:22.080 Do you know what I mean? 0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:25.040 Well, you're like an archivist, you'reeling it's overheating it is 0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:27.399 hot to the touch my device because of how many 0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:31.000 long term alarms I have set to remember these things. 0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:33.000 So give us an give us sort of an idea 0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:34.919 of what types of things are you seeing maybe in 0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:37.840 the coming year, Oh that are going to make a comeback? 0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:43.600 Like I'm like, okay, so, yas queen, what else from 0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:46.919 that era? I mean, are we talking? Boob pillows are 0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:49.640 coming back? Like a pillow that has that's good line 0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:55.280 drawings of boobs? Are we talking or is it? 0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:58.199 Like I wonder if there's this is sort of akin 0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:00.480 to yas Queen. It's a little further back, like is 0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:01.760 bacon core? Like? 0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:04.760 Oh being like, can I have to say I've always 0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:06.679 loved yes queen with an M at the end? 0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:08.440 Something about that is really right to me? 0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:14.919 Ques answer Queen queen a questioning. It's not queen or queen. 0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:18.960 Actually that is the spectrum is QQQ queer question and Queen? 0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:21.320 Yeah, Monny, I know where you're starting, I know where 0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:23.439 you're end. And I won't say them because I know 0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:26.440 them and you should know them. Should what do we 0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:26.920 think is coming? 0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:27.200 Or no? 0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:29.040 You know you go something now I was gonna I 0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:30.359 was gonna go what do I think is coming back, 0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:32.400 but I don't have the answer in my head right now. 0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:34.399 And this is one of those that's a question that 0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:39.480 Q is so answer based that I do think is 0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:42.159 somewhat illegal for a podcast when when you're asking a 0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.280 question that that requires an answer. 0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:45.840 Well, I also think there needs this. 0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:49.240 We could dissect the answer the question. This ideeah is 0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:52.280 fruitful because I do love like obviously you have to 0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:53.080 ask a questions. 0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:59.400 Di Sect is another Kim Petra's track Sect and it's 0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:01.920 sort of a you know, analysis of texts. 0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:04.240 Also, this is another Dick one, so they went yours 0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:04.840 is probably better. 0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:06.879 No, if you know her work, she's gonna have two 0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:07.720 Dick ones in a row. 0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:14.840 Do we Diximal System? Yeah? Okay, Ideology spot that's the 0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:19.040 lead single and actually has a little musicality. Yeah, yes, 0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:20.960 that's kind of nice. Oh that's good. 0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:24.800 So my thing here's where I'm struggling with trend based 0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:28.440 stuff is like trend forecasting is over, you know what 0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:31.679 I mean, And yet I know, I know, I know, 0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:33.920 but it's like, but that's that's the bind we find 0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:36.840 ourselves and you want to engage in the Jois de 0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:41.040 Vive of trend forecasting and the like gay guy play 0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:43.439 that is like this is coming back, this is so 0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:44.080 five years ago. 0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:46.479 You know what you're doing. You're not trends forecasting. You're 0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:50.359 doing the ultimately queer act of reading the vibe. You know, 0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:54.720 you're catching a vibe. Yeah, and as cues we are trained. 0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:55.200 To catch a vibe. 0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:58.320 You're you're reading GQ and you're catching a vibe that 0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:00.640 only is for you message. 0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:01.800 That's only for you? Is it just me? Or is 0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:02.800 this gay questioning? 0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:04.680 Yeah? 0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:06.960 So I think you're catching a vibe? You know how? 0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:07.600 Wow? 0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:11.800 Okay, okay, should we get into our topic? Sure, Josh, 0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:15.080 what topic did you bring today? And what straight about it? Well, 0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:17.000 we have the New Yorker to think. 0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:21.600 Wow, it's not the New Yorker, though, Has anyone done 0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:22.880 the New Yorker That would be good? 0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:23.200 Well? 0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:26.399 Actually New Yorker told well, we did toads, but mostly 0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:26.880 the New Yorker. 0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:29.240 One of our recent guests is a staff writer of 0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:31.919 The New Yorker. Her topic, did they write the article 0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:33.240 that I'm going to rep sadly know? 0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:36.040 Too bad? Actually I should know that. 0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:36.520 Yeah. 0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:37.200 Really, there was a. 0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:39.480 Few topics I was considering, and then there was an 0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:42.240 article today about the band Fish, and I found myself 0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:43.720 crying at it, and then I was like, maybe we 0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:44.640 have to talk about fish. 0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:48.000 Let's shout out. And then the lgbgq BOS creator who 0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:52.480 wrote it, Amanda pet troys, Oh, yes, they're a music critic. Yeah, yeah, no, 0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:53.560 she's she's great. 0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:55.720 So I think I think we should get into fish. 0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:59.200 So Fish, But I've learned in our prediscussions are off, Mike, 0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:03.919 that's now on that this is a this is a 0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:06.399 really foreign topic for you and a mostly foreign topic 0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:09.720 for you. Yeah, yeah, what do you know, let's start there. 0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:11.760 I would say there are certain. 0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:12.560 Things that's something you've give an A. 0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:13.639 No, no, totally. 0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:16.040 There are some a's are easier than others. 0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.600 There's something very comforting to me about knowing that certain 0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:23.560 things are like not for me, not for me at 0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:25.800 the base level, but then on top of that, also 0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:29.000 not for me to criticize or judge or respond to. 0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:31.000 Like Fish is something I love about the space. It's 0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:34.480 sort of hermetically sealed, and and that's exactly it. 0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:37.280 I actually there was a time in my life where 0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:39.400 I felt musical theater was that, but then late in 0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:41.360 life I have actually become involved. 0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:45.320 I think there's profound similarities. 0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:51.520 Betwe profound similarities. Actually, I would say anything involving the 0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:54.240 Winter Olympic other than ice skating. Anything involving the Winter 0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:56.720 Olympics for me is that like I don't relate to it. 0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:59.200 To me, the Sumber Olympics or ancient Greece, that's my culture. 0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:03.320 I've never found out what bob sledding is or losing 0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:05.800 or anything like that, Like, nor do I think it's 0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:07.760 good or bad, Like, it's not for me to judge. 0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:10.360 You don't watch cool runnings, don't even know what you're 0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:10.760 talking about. 0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:15.080 What formative text to me the nineties Disney Family comedy 0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:18.840 about Jamaican Bob sled team. That's that's what really implanted her. 0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:20.920 Because I was gonna say, I agree with your sentiment. 0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:22.280 But as soon as you said that Bob sledting, I 0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:24.080 said that I know intimately that's me too. 0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:26.440 It's so important running. There was a lot of child 0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:28.680 media about Winter Olympics. There was a lot of ice 0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:31.480 skating movies. You already accepted ice skating. 0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:33.719 I've exempted ice skating, of course, my point being that 0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:34.040 I have. 0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:36.640 I held the record show we've exempted ice skating. 0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:39.880 And Sam and Josh have excepted Bob Sledding under the 0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:41.240 Cool Runnings clause. 0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:44.280 And by the way, Bob Sledding is another track off 0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:51.800 of slipt Up Norway, which is her winter theme pop Oslow. Okay, 0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:54.600 So the point being, I have known Fish is one 0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:57.160 of those things that you're born knowing. You are born 0:29:57.440 --> 0:30:00.200 knowing that Fish exists and that the thing with is 0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:03.000 that people follow them on tour and it's like a 0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:07.040 culture and you're either a part of it or you're not. Uh, 0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:07.600 And that's it. 0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:09.720 And I pretty much know the same thing, except I 0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:13.120 did listen to a comedy podcast about Fish Scott Ackerman. 0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:15.760 Yeah, I didn't listen to it, but he is a fan. 0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:18.440 He's a fan, and and he's talking to someone else 0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:19.840 who's not a fan and sort of explaining it. 0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:22.480 Harris, we're doing our cover of the We're doing our cover. 0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:25.480 Harris Whittles is the fan, and he's teaching Scott Ackerman 0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:26.120 to like it. 0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:30.480 So you like, listen and what it and uh, was 0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:31.640 it compelling to. 0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:34.320 It was compelling? I mean I never know a lot. 0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:36.560 Actually I never learned to. I never like downloaded an 0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:38.720 album and listened to it. But I did hear a 0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:39.600 lot about it. 0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:41.440 Well, and the truth is, I'm going to be a 0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:43.560 lot more cue than Wittles. I'm not here to convince 0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:44.640 you to like it, do you know what I mean. 0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:48.200 I'm here for us to swim, swim, to play around 0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:52.040 in this pool. I don't wouldn't say I like it anymore. 0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:55.360 What made me weep today was just remembering my former self, 0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:57.880 like remembering the me who was obsessed with them. And 0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:00.320 actually I can still I'll go like every two years 0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:02.239 and sort of have a nostalgia trip, but I'm not 0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:05.960 an active participant in the space anymore. Definitely, I remember 0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.760 being the only gay person in the room of twenty thousand, 0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:12.920 Like it is just literally a decidedly straight space. Yeah, 0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:16.120 but upon processing, there are some like queer elements, but 0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:17.760 done in a very straight way, you know what I mean. 0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:19.640 Like we said, there's like a drug and a party culture, 0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:21.920 but also none of them are grooming or bathing. 0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:24.760 Well, there's also a community based element to it that 0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:26.960 is very like queer co op pot luck. 0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:30.440 Absolutely that it does feel like it's a space for 0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:33.160 a certain type of straight person who is like this 0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:36.200 society is not for me to like jump over. While 0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:39.000 still never once dabbling in GQ. 0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:41.680 I mean it's literally a safe space. 0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:46.080 It is a space space for straight yes, you know, yeah, 0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:49.760 boy on girl and girl on boy oriented people to 0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:52.800 do a lot of the other broader cultural. 0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:54.920 Queue that we do as cues. You know. I sometimes 0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:57.960 do feel bad for these types of strait because they 0:31:58.040 --> 0:31:59.320 don't have much. 0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:01.400 Well, there are a few scenes a lot of their 0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:04.000 musical I'm really staying like there's like like hardcore is 0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:06.880 like such a straight scene, but also really weirdly very 0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:14.000 gay Australian rugby. You know, men who become so masculine 0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:15.800 they double back around and they're like, oh yeah, I'll 0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:18.520 like grab my buddy's cock. But I've I've never once 0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.880 had sex. I've never once thought a single sexual. I've 0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:24.000 not done an iode of GQ. You know, it's like 0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:26.640 there's there's places for them. 0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:29.160 You know. I just realized we need to reframe the 0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:33.160 entire gay straight thing. So now it's not gay straight anymore. 0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:38.520 Oh okay, So the entire prem now. 0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:40.440 It's Q and A. 0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:43.600 You're either question or answer. So the new podcast is 0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:45.040 called a e O LAP. 0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:51.440 Called Lap. Old McDonald had a farm ah. 0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:53.720 By the way, Q and A parentheses. Queath and ass 0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:57.880 is also another track off of Kim Petris La Pop Cambridge. 0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:02.440 So I, first of all, of course love this. 0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:02.880 Thank you. 0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:09.720 It begs the question in defining Q and A, are 0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:13.640 we creating another binary that is even more rigid? 0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:15.520 What's the liminal space between Q and A? 0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:16.280 Exactly? 0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:16.440 Like? 0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:20.080 What is? You know what it is? It's a yes, 0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:23.640 and it's a statement that ends in ellipses, like it's 0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:26.120 like that Q ends in a question mark, A ends 0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:27.200 in a period. 0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:32.840 It's sort of the liminal space is the amper sand WHOA, it's. 0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:33.840 Already in it. 0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:39.040 The options are Q, A or and that's true and 0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:42.480 no one's even seeing And as the third option, it's 0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:45.280 right there. Yeah, but we needed to be expansive because 0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:47.040 it can't just be we can't make it a you know, 0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:49.600 A try on me anymore. Like it's like, you know, 0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:53.680 we can't we can't make it three. That's the same, 0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:57.040 You're on the right path. We have to find a 0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.960 way to break apart it as the third. 0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:03.800 And is the amper stand in in assigning it the 0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:07.720 role of the third option? Aren't we othering it? Do 0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:08.319 you know what I mean? 0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:11.719 But it is the continuation literally, and is the ellipsis yeah, 0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:14.120 dot dot dot and what else? You know, say more 0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:16.920 on that? Yeah, say more on that. The end is 0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:20.759 say more, right, and so the idea of like always exploring, 0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:22.920 say more, you're you're seeking, You're seeking. 0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:24.160 That's the end. 0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:26.279 Here's a question for you, though, absolutely isn't that the 0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:29.480 queue literally seeking more? What is it? 0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:32.520 And I guess what the queue is inherently asking for 0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:35.280 is the A? You at a certain point stop talking 0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:38.239 to get the A. Maybe the end is just you know, 0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:40.440 we're just we're we're riding the way. 0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:43.080 It's interesting you think the A is the more limiting 0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:45.880 option the cue. There's actually something about the queue that 0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:47.560 is like demanding an answer. 0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:50.120 The queue has to stop for the A to exist. Yeah. 0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:52.279 Yeah, the oh my god. 0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:53.160 The queue has to go. 0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:58.360 The que is going and oh oh oh okay, I 0:34:58.360 --> 0:34:59.160 guess it's me now. 0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:00.000 Yeah. 0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:05.719 The Q is an accusation. Accusation, thank you, thank c 0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:12.279 And by the way, you're well dash c U M, 0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:16.239 which is another track off of Yeah Pop Cambridge. 0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:23.760 That's that's slut Pop Manners Edition. Yeah, you're welcome slip 0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:30.279 pop Dear Abby or whatever. Yeah, it's like like that's 0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:35.879 that's there's track on it called That's My Tossed Salad Fork. 0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:38.200 That's that me tossed salad fork. 0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:41.560 That's that me tost salad Forks featuring Sabrina Carpenter. 0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:45.200 Actually, absolutely absolutely, it's an interpolation. 0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:49.319 Oh the way this has my lips chapped, that's when 0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:50.040 you know it's good. 0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:51.920 The lips are chat. 0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:55.680 That's when you know it's good. Watcher listeners. That was 0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:56.440 to the watchers. 0:35:56.640 --> 0:36:01.440 Okay, so call them listeners and watchers we don't do, okay, 0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:04.600 so you love we don't. That was so a of 0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:08.360 you that really, Yes, he gave me a cue. I 0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:10.359 had to give an a like he was literally being 0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:11.560 like gun to my head, that's. 0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:13.239 What you called, And I said, no, but this is 0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:16.000 I'm really it's like you think the A is the 0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:19.040 oppressive one. No, the Q is what is oppressing the A. 0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:20.960 And to give me a declarative. 0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:22.680 Statement, I mean many straight people would argue that is true. 0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:26.000 Yes, it's that is. It's it's like the straight people 0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:26.600 are the ones that are. 0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:31.319 Pressed, done, done hits end, which is why they take 0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:32.640 refuge and fish is why. 0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:37.920 And I not to be so uh standard Q and A. 0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:39.560 I do want to sort of go back to basics, 0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:41.680 and I kind of want to give you a platform. Yeah, 0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:43.840 it talks a little bit about Fish. 0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:47.240 Yeah, I do feel like a lot of like being 0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:51.920 a closeted high schooler in rural North Carolina, it was 0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:54.319 a big part of developing my personality, not just Fish, 0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:57.160 but just like like driving to Ashville and seeing third 0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:59.640 tier jam bands at the Orange Peel was how I 0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:02.240 was like, I am a person. You know, I exist, 0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:04.200 I've been intro and I've been brought on, you know 0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:06.640 what I mean. It's like that, really, so I would 0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:08.279 this is the primer. Let's try to make it as 0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:13.120 succinct as possible, and we're gonna go We're gonna little 0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:13.840 women reboot it. 0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:14.879 We're gonna go out of time. 0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:17.040 I'm not gonna I'm not We're gonna start in the middle, 0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:18.279 as the podcast does. 0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:20.920 Josh, I just want to say if you if you 0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:22.959 start in the beginning, I would tell you to get 0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:25.200 out of your care and leave the idea that you 0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:28.399 would come to this podcast and do linear storytelling as 0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:29.320 though you are, like. 0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:33.080 It's insulting. I even it's insulting to the cubes and 0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:36.560 cut this part of the episode because it's insulting. Cut 0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:38.000 this part of the episode and put it at the end. 0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:41.040 By the way, accountability, keep this part of the episode. 0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:45.359 Cut the part where I said cut it, but keep it. 0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:47.359 And the idea that you're coming in and you're saying, 0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:49.200 you know, a normal person would do linear, but I'm 0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:53.760 gonna do wist. That's like you. It's like very Sam 0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:55.560 Smith saying, am I the first gay person to win? 0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:56.920 Yeah? Exactly, Like it's. 0:37:56.800 --> 0:38:01.040 Like not to being different, Yeah, not even this kind 0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:02.200 of other people do what you're doing. 0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:04.080 It's called conversation. Yea, Like no one is actually going 0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:05.799 on exactly, So you're so right. 0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:09.320 So what you know about them is sort of tapping 0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:12.680 into when the Grateful Dead ended because Jerry died in 0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:15.560 ninety five, Fish, who was already like a really burgeoning 0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:18.160 popular band, had started to like play arenas became like 0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:20.960 mega successful because their fans were like, we need to 0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:21.680 fuck to them. 0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:23.400 But actually they were rather different. 0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:27.279 They're very similar in cultures but different in musical construct. 0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:30.200 They both improvise, so they do a lot of improv 0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:33.239 which you all know as not to UCB training. 0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:35.200 I celebrate and much more free form. 0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:37.120 It's actually more of a jazz style than a UCB 0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:39.000 Amy Poeller told you the rules, so you know what 0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:41.239 I mean. Like it's it's very it's very free form, 0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:45.480 but it's very yes andy okay. And so thus there's 0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:48.000 this culture of people who are chasing the dragon because 0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:52.000 not only do you hear a song more than once, 0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:54.279 and it can go very different directions. You know, you're 0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:57.040 trying to see Sandino do the perfect chessboard, Herald Honey 0:38:57.280 --> 0:39:00.080 preaching to the damn choir, you understand. But also so 0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:02.680 they then sort of extrapolate that on creat a broader 0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:04.919 culture where like for them, the shows are very long, 0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:07.120 like four and a half hours, so they're like an experience, 0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:09.640 and if you could see them every night for a week, 0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:12.160 they don't repeat a song, so you just hear every 0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:15.279 show is literally quite different structurally, and then also even 0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:17.080 if it were the same show played twice, which they 0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:19.600 never would do, they like embrace the energy of the 0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:22.600 space and let it go different places. But musically, The 0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:24.640 Grateful Dead was basically like a folk band who then 0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:26.479 were like, it's pretty easy to just like take LSD 0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:28.640 and riff on these two courts from they sort of 0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:32.080 started as a prog band and we're writing these intensely composed, 0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:34.799 like crazy epic suites that were psychotic and then finding 0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:36.640 out how to improvise within them, which is like a 0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:40.839 weird gnashing of dualities. So musically, but also if you 0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:44.480 told me this is unlistenable, I'd be like valid. I 0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:46.920 get there's a high bird hurdle to get into it, 0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:49.720 and then when people do, you're down bad for it. Yeah, 0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:52.000 And it's half that part of straight people's brain, like baseball, 0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:54.040 where you're like, I need to memorize every statistic. 0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:57.200 There's a there's an obsession your list observe. It's obsessive. 0:39:57.520 --> 0:40:00.440 It's obsessive, and there's a there's a lot of in 0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:03.879 culture stuff, as we know from Yas Queen that part. 0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:06.720 There's all of these things that only this culture knows 0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:09.480 that are fostered by the band to the audience and 0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:12.120 vice versa. I like, literally do gags with the bands. 0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:14.200 I have a cue that demands an a what's their 0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:14.839 yas Queen? 0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:17.160 Oh great point. 0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:21.279 And I know actually that one of one of the 0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:23.480 people in this room is more actively in fish. So 0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:26.200 you can gut check me. At any point, would you 0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:28.440 say it's would you fec driving to a frenzy. Is 0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:29.359 that their yas Queen. 0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:31.080 That's one of the big ones. 0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:33.480 One of their most epic songs has this sort of 0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:36.319 undecipherable lyric that's just sounds that people are always starting 0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:39.759 trying to figure out what it actually is and then 0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:41.400 they've never explained it. But people have a lot of 0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:44.560 theories of what they're trying to say. And it's definitely 0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:47.200 a shorthand for like knowing the band. 0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:51.960 Okay, so okay, So for like a You're like there 0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:55.000 for four plus hours, you're like doing drugs and You're like, 0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:58.520 I'm crazy. I've never been anywhere like this, like where 0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:01.160 part of what feels straight to me about it and 0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:03.120 I'm down to be wrong because I'm just shooting in 0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:05.600 the dark. Is it sexless? 0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:11.200 Are people hooking up sexless? That's interesting sexless? Wouldn't you agree? Sexless? 0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:13.720 I don't think fish is that straight? 0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:15.920 Oh interesting? 0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:16.360 Wow? 0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:19.600 Well, but I think of the amount of straight people, 0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:22.520 which is profound and overwhelming, you know what I mean. 0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:24.760 But you're right, there are a lot of overlaps because 0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:26.120 it's it circles back this thing. 0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:30.440 I mean, any stub of any subculture is exacterently to 0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:34.400 be so basic apparently queer because it is like outside 0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:34.920 the main stream. 0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:36.680 But they're the most successful indie band of all time, 0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:38.600 you know what I mean. It's like they can they 0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:40.399 can sell thirteen knights in a row at the garden 0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:42.840 and aren't on a label. You know, nobody listens to 0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:44.880 their They've never had a pop they've never had a 0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:45.520 radiohead ever. 0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:47.360 So which is that is what's. 0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:51.720 Most intriguing about them to me is like everything else 0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:53.640 that is a subcult you can at least point to. 0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:56.880 Like the one time they were mainstream. 0:41:56.520 --> 0:41:59.480 They had a very brief moment of trying it yeah, 0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:03.120 and the record did like okay, but didn't do anything. 0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:04.960 And then they turned in the next record. This guy 0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:06.640 referenced in The New Yorker, I'm like, here's the next one, 0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:08.279 and the air and our person was not just like 0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:10.560 this is a bad direction. He was like, I refuse 0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:12.799 to even try to do so. Then they're like, all right, 0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:15.040 well never wine. They didn't even give notes. They're like, 0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:16.080 no notes, cut and run. 0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:21.719 Okay, Okay, here's my theory. Ready, Okay they are It's 0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:24.680 not like a band in the classic sense. It's a 0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:27.879 theater show about a band in a way. 0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:30.279 Yes, I mean one of his early pieces, this guy 0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:33.040 was writing sort of like this like fantasy musical that 0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:41.600 he did dissertation stereophonic fantasy. Yeah, exactly. And so I 0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:43.880 think there's always and he's now since written musicals. Like 0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:46.160 a lot of it is drawing from that space of 0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:50.960 like narrative world building. You know, characters, there's characters and songs. 0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:54.040 There's like you know, yeah, there there's a certain state 0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:58.640 of play, profoundly, oh god, profoundly a state of play. 0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:00.520 There's a lot of that because again they're like one 0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:03.799 improv is like we're playing together. And then they then 0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:06.239 wanted Also they have a light sky who's like known 0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:07.919 in the business for being the best at what he does. 0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:11.880 Because you see most big arena stadium shows, they're programmed 0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:14.440 to hell, you have like ninety thousand pre program cues. 0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:17.400 He goes in with I think normally like four and 0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:20.240 improvises the rest of it. And so he is working 0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:23.240 these massive lights and improvising with him. So then sometimes 0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:25.200 they're doing things musically and he responds to it or 0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:27.560 vice versa. He'll do lights and they'll go, we should 0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:30.240 play along to that. Then they extrapolated that to the audience. 0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:32.360 There was a time they literally would throw four big 0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:35.319 balls in the audience, each of which represented a band member, 0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:37.520 and only play when an audience member touched it, because 0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:40.080 they're like, we want you to play us. And that's 0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:41.880 become a thing where they're always like, how do we 0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:46.279 make you as active a participant in this as we are? 0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:49.560 That literal sense of play. 0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:52.720 That's a sense of play. I like that. It reminds 0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:55.480 me of like me at over the eight, like there's something. 0:43:55.520 --> 0:43:58.880 No, it's very over the eight coded which and then 0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:00.319 there's all these facts you would know or do you 0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:02.000 know that like in the Y two K not to 0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:02.359 bring it. 0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:04.560 Back to twenty sixteen, but in the nineteen ninety nine 0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:06.560 was right exactly. Yeah. 0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:08.480 Do you know that they did a concert on New 0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:10.920 Year's Eve that was the biggest attended New Year's Eve 0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:11.840 event in the world. 0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:16.720 Was it in a it in Florida? 0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:20.360 It was a big Cypress Native American. 0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:23.720 I was gonna say, a seminal like reservation in Florida. 0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:26.399 And they had like hundreds of thousands of people there 0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:29.840 and they played ninety They played all night. They started 0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:32.040 at ten and played until like eight am the next morning. 0:44:32.080 --> 0:44:34.640 After the sun came out that that's rave culture. That's 0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:36.239 rave culture. Do they wear diapers? 0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:37.440 So here's my question. 0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:43.480 The first New Year's they played at the Boston Garden, 0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:47.080 eleven fifty they went backstage and like eleven fifty three 0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:47.680 they came out of. 0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:50.560 Divers, folks, they're wearing diapers. But that was as a 0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:51.439 bit right, it. 0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:53.399 Was there, like first ever New Year's game. 0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:55.759 Yeah, Now they do gags every New Year's. It's always 0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:58.120 a big surprise because they literally do like a theatrical 0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:00.560 thing as as part of the show. So people come 0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:01.960 every New year as being like, what's the guy going 0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:03.960 to be? And they actually like make a you know, 0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:11.480 like an opera or whatever. Oh yeah, look, well this 0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:13.040 is really shocking. 0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:15.600 I'm like getting frustrated that all these people are having 0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:16.279 more fun than me. 0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:18.960 Well that's what I actually do. That's something I realized 0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:20.680 too when I actually the part that made me cry 0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:22.719 was him thinking about his sobriety. He was talking about 0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:24.120 a sobriety really poetically. 0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:25.320 But when did he become sober? 0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:28.920 The band like busted up because he became so drop. 0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:30.880 I mean many reasons. I think the operation got too 0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:32.759 big and they had like fifty people to employ, and 0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:34.000 then it was like, oh, you have to keep doing this, 0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:36.719 and then the lead guy was like doing opiates and 0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:39.880 heroin and stuff, and so like that became unsustainable. So 0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:42.399 they like briefly broke up. And when was that two 0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:46.319 thousand and four. Yeah, to have a fact checker, this 0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:46.759 is tough. 0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:48.759 I feel like that you this is tough because you're 0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:51.000 literally now being no, I'm this is I have to 0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:54.280 have the right as you have. It's become an a podcast. 0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:55.520 I have to have the right a's you have to. 0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:57.520 But this is what media needs fact checkers in the room. 0:45:57.560 --> 0:45:59.280 Are we talking about? I mean, this is twenty sixteen. 0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:01.959 If us. 0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:06.280 Fact checked me, like we should that Cheetoh if. 0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:08.399 You haven't, if you haven't heard of Cambridge Analytica, you're 0:46:08.440 --> 0:46:09.960 only getting half the story. 0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:11.040 Cambridge Anaclitica. 0:46:11.440 --> 0:46:14.960 Oh my god. That's literally best one out of out 0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:20.200 of slaptop Cambridge literally Cambridge Anaclitica. Wow, oh my god. 0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:22.800 Then like two years after the breakup, he got arrested 0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:25.120 with like heroin and pills in his car, and apparently 0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:28.000 it was just like everybody says, like the the most 0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:30.239 kind and gracious person to ever be arrested, because I 0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:32.040 think he was like finally, thank you, thank you. And 0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:33.719 then he tells the story about then he was on 0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:36.480 like he managed to avoid jail by doing basically house 0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:40.400 arrest and like got an apartment next to the jail 0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:42.040 and couldn't. 0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:41.960 Have a car. 0:46:43.600 --> 0:46:45.480 Apparently they like worked it out with a judge where 0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:47.840 he was like, I'm gonna do two years of community 0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:50.440 service and I'm gonna live by the jail and and 0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:53.080 he said it was like the most like beautiful, humbling experience. 0:46:53.080 --> 0:46:54.759 Because he's still Vermont, he's a rock star. People are 0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:56.680 coming up, like Trey from Fish. He's like, I'm scrubbing 0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:58.920 toilets and being like thank you. And then he said 0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:01.040 his kids would come and visit them on the weekends 0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:03.000 and they look back and say it was the best 0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:04.640 part of their lives because before that he was on 0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:06.640 tour and doing drugs. And he's like this part where 0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:07.760 I cry. 0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:08.600 To that that's pretty much. 0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:09.560 I mean, that's beautiful. 0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:11.200 But then it got me just thinking about the time 0:47:11.200 --> 0:47:13.120 of my life when I cared about this stuff and 0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:17.320 I don't anymore. And that's you know, that's what changed. Oh, 0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:18.320 that's a great question. 0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:20.439 You became gay that I became gay. 0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:22.560 Honestly, I became gay and I said, wait, there's a 0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:23.879 different version of this, and it's. 0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:25.359 And I can have sex there. 0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:27.640 Yeah, you can get your dick sucked if you do 0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:29.840 this in Berlin. It's literally all the same things. 0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:33.200 Yeah, it is kind of a bummer. I've been thinking 0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:37.240 about what gay takes from me, what g takes away 0:47:37.239 --> 0:47:39.799 from me. Where now I am just like, well, I 0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:41.560 could be doing this, like I could be getting into 0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:44.240 this niche subculture, or I could go somewhere and probably 0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:46.440 have sex. Oh well, these are connected. 0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:48.480 The part I was going to say is I do now, 0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:51.160 looking back, love and appreciate it even more now that 0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:53.800 I think they're even lamer. That it's like an uncool 0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:56.640 space because so much of queer spaces are about the 0:47:56.680 --> 0:47:57.520 currency of cool. 0:47:57.600 --> 0:47:58.719 It's an arms race. 0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:01.440 It's an arms race for cool, and that theirs is 0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:04.439 basically everybody agreeing, like, so you're lame, like I'm lame, 0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:06.720 and it's having. 0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:07.279 So much thing. 0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:11.560 It's like, it's so that that is admirable. We should 0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:12.720 bring that to our Q spaces. 0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:14.640 We should bring up some Q spaces. But then but 0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:16.600 we you and I try to do this when we 0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:19.600 celebrate what we call Philly. Yeah, that's true. 0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:23.080 Can we explained this theory to George Philly not real Philly. 0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:26.680 This is I don't know the down just to warn 0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:30.719 the watchers cost about to be coastal elite, but in 0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:33.359 a way that doubles back and becomes praise. So this 0:48:33.400 --> 0:48:37.520 is Australian rugby. All right, So this is so straight 0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:38.480 it's gay trust us. 0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:42.440 Coastal Elik is one of the tracks that like Coastal 0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:49.480 a lick my cock, my cock. 0:48:50.640 --> 0:49:00.360 So Kat Constal that's featuring k Yeah, okay, So Philly 0:49:00.400 --> 0:49:02.719 is a real city. That's what this theory is based off. Yeah, 0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:07.520 and Philly rules, Philly places to go. And I specifically 0:49:07.600 --> 0:49:10.359 love the gay bars in Philly because they have this 0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:12.680 like they remind me of like when I was twenty 0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:14.680 one and going to like sort of a lame gay 0:49:14.680 --> 0:49:16.560 bar in Chicago and like dancing and let me just 0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:19.600 gout in music with like my girlfriend. Can I introduce 0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:21.200 something that we can all use because I love to 0:49:21.239 --> 0:49:25.399 use this conversation lame open parenthesis, complimentary close parenthesies. 0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:27.920 We're not saying it pejorative lame. Okay, good, this is 0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:30.720 lame as in good. 0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:33.360 And so now that I'm so when you go to Philly, 0:49:33.360 --> 0:49:35.640 you kind of experience these types of bars and they're 0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:38.359 too big for some reason. The liminal space. 0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:40.000 You're unwatched, you're not in the arms race. 0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:41.919 It's you're not the arms race at all, and you're 0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:42.760 finally free. 0:49:43.200 --> 0:49:45.719 Not a single is there, No one could care. 0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:49.040 They're putting Bruno mars On. Literally that's the liminal space 0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:52.319 and you're dancing to it. And so now whenever we're 0:49:52.320 --> 0:49:55.759 in a space that is uncool, we both bond on 0:49:55.880 --> 0:49:59.000 really enjoying that and we say, yes, it's Philly specifically 0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:00.920 where you have the can we dox them? 0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:02.719 I feel like we should dox them, but this is 0:50:02.719 --> 0:50:06.840 again doxing complimentary. Sometimes we go to Metro, which is 0:50:06.840 --> 0:50:09.520 my favorite gay bar, but because there's some newer girls 0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:12.479 in the neighborhood who the quote unquote cool people want 0:50:12.480 --> 0:50:15.000 to go to, they're not going to Metro anymore, and 0:50:15.040 --> 0:50:15.560 it's Philly. 0:50:15.680 --> 0:50:18.279 It's Philly. I love Metro is now Metro we go 0:50:18.360 --> 0:50:20.120 there and I'll talk to it. I'm one of the 0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:23.000 girls who is no longer going to Metro and haven't 0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:25.279 been actually docks them. 0:50:25.840 --> 0:50:30.200 What the actually an animal because of cool the cool list. 0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:33.000 But it's not even just that. It's like a return 0:50:33.360 --> 0:50:36.840 to like Christopher Street for me to like, it's a 0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:39.800 I would actually Jesus is number one. Well, this is 0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:42.320 obviously number one, and that's not even that exists outside 0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:45.279 of the cool uncool spectrum. That's it. I'm even going 0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:48.480 to like Julius. I just went to the Monster. I'm 0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:49.120 going to pieces. 0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:50.800 Here's the monster and going to pieces. 0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:52.200 I've been to pieces recently. 0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:54.520 What queens are you seeing? 0:50:54.800 --> 0:50:58.640 I don't remember what her name was, but she was okay. 0:50:58.560 --> 0:51:00.920 It's a great trag show. Say more on that. I 0:51:00.920 --> 0:51:03.239 don't remember her name, but she was okay. That is 0:51:03.320 --> 0:51:04.760 such a great But that wasn't the ax. 0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:08.279 But there wasn't anything about because there is this when 0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:12.080 it comes to uncool gay spaces. If it's long enough ago, 0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:15.759 then you are basically like wearing an Act up T 0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:18.400 shirt and pretending it's the eighties. 0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:20.799 Metro is that part, you know, it's like, but I 0:51:20.800 --> 0:51:26.239 think that is that part. It's like, it's not is yes, 0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:30.279 Queen Metro Meros twenty ten Ya kitchen is yes. Queen 0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:32.440 Metro is that part, and that is fun. 0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:35.240 And that's the final frontier, because when are the cool 0:51:35.280 --> 0:51:38.520 gay guys gonna suck at the fuck up and go 0:51:38.560 --> 0:51:39.360 to Hell's kitchen? 0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:41.560 Well, when it doesn't take a fucking hour to get there. 0:51:41.560 --> 0:51:42.320 That's why let's. 0:51:42.160 --> 0:51:45.359 Start with Christopher Street, and let's start with Josh Sharp, Toda, 0:51:45.520 --> 0:51:48.719 Josh dot Com, mere blocks from christ I'm loving how 0:51:48.760 --> 0:51:51.640 non Le start there with what we get these gay 0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:55.560 guys to do? Bring back Duplex, Bring bring back, bring 0:51:55.640 --> 0:51:58.160 back Duplex. Do you know how much of the scene 0:51:58.200 --> 0:52:03.160 that you love The podcast cup Ball is born of Duplex. 0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:03.719 In anyways, the. 0:52:03.719 --> 0:52:05.920 First time I ever did a half hour of comedy 0:52:06.040 --> 0:52:08.040 was at the Duplex. Thank you, leplit a bill with 0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:11.279 my friend Julia Claire. We did half hours together and 0:52:11.320 --> 0:52:14.000 the show is called George Severis and Julia Claire Colon. 0:52:14.360 --> 0:52:18.160 That's a stretch that love love it, love love it. 0:52:18.160 --> 0:52:20.279 It birthed Aaron and I mean UCB did. But when 0:52:20.280 --> 0:52:21.840 we were like what if we like broke out at 0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:24.360 UCB we hosted our variety show at the Duplex. 0:52:24.560 --> 0:52:25.720 Cole was running there. 0:52:25.680 --> 0:52:27.759 Like the hit show at the Duplex for a long 0:52:27.800 --> 0:52:30.120 time was cool. Cole was like paying the bills at 0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:31.279 Duplex so think. 0:52:31.200 --> 0:52:32.400 The way if you want to learn more about that. 0:52:32.480 --> 0:52:35.839 Jeffrey Self's book of essays, Jeffrey describes the duplex era 0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:38.640 and working with Oh I would love first essay. You 0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:39.800 don't even have to read the whole. 0:52:39.600 --> 0:52:43.040 Book, So Christopher Street. Yeah, but this is to the Philly. 0:52:43.200 --> 0:52:44.200 This is the Philly of it all. 0:52:44.280 --> 0:52:47.680 Yes and yeah, so Philly the non cool gay guys 0:52:47.719 --> 0:52:49.719 is a movement that we actually do believe in, and 0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:51.080 so we're trying to push that. 0:52:51.040 --> 0:52:53.319 And not to be binary about it because actually, now 0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:55.520 I'm gonna sort of do the opposite, right, say, like 0:52:55.520 --> 0:52:57.480 the in between spaces what I don't like. But in 0:52:57.520 --> 0:52:59.520 these kind of things, there are certain places that are 0:52:59.680 --> 0:53:03.040 actually cool. You're at a certain like warehousey Rave, and 0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:05.040 you're like, you've nailed the cool assignment. 0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:05.439 Yeah. 0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:07.320 Then there are the Philly spaces where it's like you 0:53:07.360 --> 0:53:10.399 are owning your uncoolness. It's these places that think they're 0:53:10.400 --> 0:53:12.600 cool and they're not that are living in the what 0:53:12.760 --> 0:53:15.759 is the you know this thing in relief when it 0:53:15.800 --> 0:53:17.400 comes to gay space, I mean, is it now the 0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:18.760 amper sand is bad where. 0:53:18.560 --> 0:53:21.439 I'm like you need to just be it or not it? 0:53:21.480 --> 0:53:24.400 Can you describe what a place that thinks it's cool 0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:25.600 but isn't feels. 0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:26.720 Is that Hell's Kitchen? 0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:26.920 Then? 0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:30.080 Is Hell's Kitchen the medium? And that's why it's sort 0:53:30.200 --> 0:53:32.239 we don't know what to do with it because there 0:53:32.320 --> 0:53:36.879 is it is Hell's Kitchen is attempting to be the 0:53:36.880 --> 0:53:38.800 gay spot. Yeah, that is its goal. 0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:43.920 It's there's a tackiness but without any camp. Yeah right, yeah, 0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:48.680 And there's there's sort of a and I'm not against basicness, like, 0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:51.560 as we know, basicness can be there's beauty and simplicity. 0:53:52.000 --> 0:53:54.400 But there's a time that has no queue. So I 0:53:54.400 --> 0:53:56.120 should say there's a type that has no queue. There's 0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:57.560 a type of basic where it's like, oh, you haven't 0:53:57.600 --> 0:54:00.359 considered anything outside of the slang and that that you've 0:54:00.360 --> 0:54:02.760 like considered it all and gone. What if I embrace 0:54:02.840 --> 0:54:05.279 the basic? You are only there no. 0:54:05.360 --> 0:54:10.520 C And in this narrative, is Philly only there no cue? 0:54:10.640 --> 0:54:11.840 Or his Philly considered? 0:54:11.920 --> 0:54:12.200 Wow? 0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:14.880 Don't you feel like Philly has sort of considered I 0:54:14.880 --> 0:54:16.040 think Philly has considered. 0:54:16.120 --> 0:54:18.239 Yeah, I think Philly has seen what cool could be 0:54:18.320 --> 0:54:21.560 and said I'm good. Yeah, I think they ride with 0:54:21.600 --> 0:54:23.840 my friends. Yeah. Yeah, it's like I don't need to 0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:26.120 do all that. There's a maturity to Philly. There's a 0:54:26.160 --> 0:54:31.279 maturity to Philly. Well birth our nation. You see that 0:54:31.320 --> 0:54:34.719 big old cracked bell. You see that nation came out 0:54:34.719 --> 0:54:36.520 of that hole. You know there's a maturity. 0:54:36.600 --> 0:54:41.000 You know what it is, cracked bell, it's bell, it's 0:54:41.960 --> 0:54:43.000 American standards. 0:54:43.160 --> 0:54:48.880 Competrious Philly, cracked my bell, crack my bell, open bitch, 0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:52.640 slapt pop Philly, Philly. 0:54:52.440 --> 0:54:58.359 Now that I want to be Oh my god, that's amazing. 0:54:59.480 --> 0:55:02.720 Do you think Philly is Lana del Rey dressing normal 0:55:02.880 --> 0:55:06.080 but not as an ironic hipstery thing. It's like she 0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:08.960 has decided she has seen what cool is. She's been 0:55:09.040 --> 0:55:10.800 dressed by all the big designers, and now she is 0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:14.520 shopping at Target. I know, don't Okay? 0:55:14.640 --> 0:55:20.080 I think Philly is almost Kelly Clarkson. 0:55:20.200 --> 0:55:21.080 Kelly Clarkson. 0:55:21.560 --> 0:55:23.960 Yes, here's the thing that I think is wrong, but 0:55:23.960 --> 0:55:27.759 I'm gonna say it. Or is Philly Tate McCrae. And 0:55:27.800 --> 0:55:33.120 then you go, wait, you know Arca, We're like I 0:55:33.160 --> 0:55:35.040 knew I like something about totally. 0:55:35.080 --> 0:55:36.319 Oh you're friends with ARCA. 0:55:36.400 --> 0:55:37.640 But I think that is more. 0:55:37.840 --> 0:55:38.279 I didn't you. 0:55:38.280 --> 0:55:40.920 Didn't give friends with Arca to me. Don't you think 0:55:40.920 --> 0:55:42.120 that that is that's the maturity. 0:55:42.200 --> 0:55:43.799 No, that is the maturity. 0:55:43.960 --> 0:55:45.400 Interesting, Okay, yeah, because. 0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:47.799 Kelly Clarkson's not totally right either. I'm trying to think 0:55:48.200 --> 0:55:54.440 what is right Natalie and Bruglia, Katie. 0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:56.520 I mean, is it Adele? Oh? 0:55:56.640 --> 0:55:59.080 Maybe Philly is Adele, but that's because I don't identify 0:55:59.120 --> 0:56:02.200 with Adele. That is tough, and I do identify with 0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:03.680 phil what's keeping you? Yeah? 0:56:03.680 --> 0:56:04.320 What is keeping? 0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:08.640 I love it though, I'm just like, actually, yeah, I 0:56:08.680 --> 0:56:12.520 mean she's fine, like it's it doesn't inspire hatred or love, 0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:14.760 but you don't. What about Bruno Mars? 0:56:15.560 --> 0:56:18.640 Does I feel like spire? I ride for Bruno acts 0:56:18.880 --> 0:56:20.799 a hot take? Say that you remember this? Erah, this 0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:22.600 is the duplex Aara say he was better for than 0:56:22.680 --> 0:56:24.400 Lady Gaga would be like song for a song, name 0:56:24.440 --> 0:56:26.319 me a Gaga song and there's a better Bruno song. 0:56:26.920 --> 0:56:28.359 I don't say by that. It was just fun. 0:56:28.560 --> 0:56:30.640 Yeah, I've sort of agreed with it, but I do 0:56:30.760 --> 0:56:31.440 ride for Bruno. 0:56:31.760 --> 0:56:31.840 No. 0:56:31.920 --> 0:56:34.920 I think I think Bruno is is properly Philly. I 0:56:34.960 --> 0:56:35.640 think that is a good. 0:56:35.680 --> 0:56:38.400 Yeah, I think Bruno is Philly. Yeah, what is pink? 0:56:39.440 --> 0:56:41.480 Oh? 0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:44.680 God, there's something Midwestern about Yeah, there's something Midwest. 0:56:44.719 --> 0:56:46.520 I think they're going to go ahead and play pink 0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:48.080 after the Bruno in Philly. 0:56:48.440 --> 0:56:50.720 Well, they're gonna play it. But she doesn't. She doesn't 0:56:51.000 --> 0:56:53.000 symbolize the whole city is Philly. 0:56:53.080 --> 0:56:57.920 Rupol's drag race, mm. 0:56:56.560 --> 0:57:01.600 When twenty sixteen, Yeah, krupas drag Race twenty sixteen. 0:57:01.800 --> 0:57:02.759 It's season A. 0:57:03.000 --> 0:57:05.799 It's bringing out the signs that say vote dot org. 0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:09.080 Yeah, it's it's Bob winning after Violet vote dot org. 0:57:09.440 --> 0:57:10.560 You know what I mean? You know, it to me 0:57:10.680 --> 0:57:14.680 is an essential Okay, here's another. Okay, I'm tying it 0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:17.160 to Fish ready, good, Okay, Philly. 0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:19.040 And if you read it with Josh up Toada too, 0:57:19.120 --> 0:57:21.120 if you pull that trifecta, that's gonna be funny. 0:57:21.160 --> 0:57:24.200 Well, this is on you. Potentially. Something that is always 0:57:25.320 --> 0:57:28.800 a sign of Philly, like a true, tried and true 0:57:28.800 --> 0:57:32.960 sign of Philly is walking around with shot glasses that 0:57:33.000 --> 0:57:35.800 are in like neon. Oh yeah, when I see that, 0:57:35.840 --> 0:57:40.080 I say, I am safely mark my location as in Philly, 0:57:40.200 --> 0:57:43.640 marked as safe from Hartly test tubes. And I actually 0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:46.120 think Fish is also they don't do shot glasses and 0:57:46.200 --> 0:57:48.040 test tubes. But the culture is similar. 0:57:48.160 --> 0:57:52.200 Absolutely, absolutely they do nitrous they do. They're sucking out 0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:54.240 of the balloons from the dentist, you know what I mean, 0:57:54.520 --> 0:57:56.880 that's the that's the shot glass of the fish scene. 0:57:56.920 --> 0:58:00.400 It's sucking out of my loons. Is another track Slap 0:58:00.440 --> 0:58:02.520 Pop Philly. 0:58:03.120 --> 0:58:05.600 What about Philly? Is you think? 0:58:06.200 --> 0:58:08.840 What about Philly's balloons? Do we think? And now we're 0:58:08.880 --> 0:58:09.840 back to Fiona Apple. 0:58:10.040 --> 0:58:12.680 Now that's nonlinear question asking that's. 0:58:12.840 --> 0:58:17.160 You are amper standing boots with that one part that. 0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:21.280 Well, I just want to know what, like, are you 0:58:21.320 --> 0:58:24.439 going to try to incorporate something to symbolize to your 0:58:25.000 --> 0:58:27.280 the attendees of your show that you're there in Philly. 0:58:27.480 --> 0:58:30.080 Well, the Christmas Street of it all, it's so easy 0:58:30.120 --> 0:58:32.480 to do a two show night. Or you're seeing josharp 0:58:32.520 --> 0:58:35.120 Toda and then Holly box s brains at pieces, you 0:58:35.160 --> 0:58:38.040 know what I mean? Like you could see an incredible 0:58:38.120 --> 0:58:42.200 queen or George would call them okay, and I'm not 0:58:42.360 --> 0:58:44.040 that's not a subweet at the queen I named earlier. 0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:49.200 I'm just you know, subtit by the way. 0:58:48.000 --> 0:58:49.880 Sub my tit did. 0:58:50.360 --> 0:58:52.960 You could see an incredible pieces drag queen post show 0:58:53.000 --> 0:58:54.640 any night of the week. You could go to Duplex 0:58:54.680 --> 0:58:57.600 and sing Roses Turn any night after, both before and 0:58:57.720 --> 0:59:00.320 after my show. Yeah, so it is sort of right 0:59:00.400 --> 0:59:04.040 in the peak neighborhood for for the Monster at all. 0:59:05.320 --> 0:59:14.800 You know why Fish doesn't connect with gay people? What, like, 0:59:15.640 --> 0:59:16.440 how do I say this? 0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:18.120 There's no like, I. 0:59:18.080 --> 0:59:21.280 Know there's a lead guy, but like he's not a diva. 0:59:21.520 --> 0:59:24.280 No, And it's a collective even though he's profoundly the 0:59:24.360 --> 0:59:26.920 lead guy. It's with a lot of like we I 0:59:27.000 --> 0:59:29.240 have built this machine and we're all evil parts. Yes, 0:59:29.280 --> 0:59:31.160 I'm the architect, but you know gay. 0:59:31.040 --> 0:59:32.200 People need like a hierarchy. 0:59:32.240 --> 0:59:36.920 Well yes, no, but there is something almost anti anti 0:59:36.960 --> 0:59:41.840 branding and anti capitalist about the whole machine because, for example, 0:59:41.880 --> 0:59:44.800 with The Grateful Dead, you might not know anything, but 0:59:44.880 --> 0:59:47.960 you know the Teddy Bears, the Rainbow the Rainbow Bears 0:59:48.280 --> 0:59:49.240 dancing around, Like do. 0:59:49.200 --> 0:59:52.560 You even know the Fish logo? Do I? That is? 0:59:52.600 --> 0:59:54.200 This is so cool? I literally don't. 0:59:54.280 --> 0:59:55.200 What is this is that? 0:59:55.280 --> 0:59:57.360 Maybe this speaks to it because something else they talked 0:59:57.360 --> 0:59:59.960 about the article is at the time they were getting big, 1:00:00.320 --> 1:00:01.959 they just talk about how much when like most bands, 1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:04.080 when they finally have like access, they would like make 1:00:04.200 --> 1:00:05.680 use of things. But they're like, oh, finally we have 1:00:05.680 --> 1:00:08.080 the freedom to do say not all the stuff. 1:00:07.880 --> 1:00:08.200 We want to do. 1:00:08.520 --> 1:00:12.160 Yeah, for thirty years they've demanded that every venue they're in, 1:00:12.640 --> 1:00:15.760 any forward facing ads to the audience are covered, so 1:00:15.800 --> 1:00:19.720 people go early and cover with curtains any like billboards 1:00:19.760 --> 1:00:21.000 or advertisements in the space. 1:00:21.320 --> 1:00:22.840 They're like, you should not come in and see like 1:00:22.840 --> 1:00:23.479 a coke ad. 1:00:23.960 --> 1:00:26.120 Yeah, that's cool, and every venue does it because they 1:00:26.120 --> 1:00:28.080 sell a billion tickets. So there's things like that where 1:00:28.080 --> 1:00:30.400 they're like, oh, you at a time when you be like, 1:00:30.400 --> 1:00:32.280 what's my brand deal, they're like, how do we eliminate 1:00:32.320 --> 1:00:33.720 brands from this magical space? 1:00:34.480 --> 1:00:38.600 Slay, No, that's cool. Slay kind of recurds too, don't 1:00:38.640 --> 1:00:41.000 but that happen the ones Lady Gaga could never well. 1:00:41.040 --> 1:00:41.480 First of all, I. 1:00:43.000 --> 1:00:45.280 Aeo lab or I want to go back to the 1:00:45.280 --> 1:00:46.640 logos from Mattress. 1:00:46.800 --> 1:00:48.520 But I do think that's a big part of why 1:00:48.560 --> 1:00:50.800 it's so siphoned off from the rest of culture is 1:00:50.840 --> 1:00:54.440 because there's like no advertising a bit. It's literally like 1:00:54.480 --> 1:00:56.080 by word of mouth, and if you know, you know. 1:00:56.160 --> 1:00:58.200 And even then you need a guide and even know, 1:00:58.480 --> 1:01:00.800 like even if your friends like listen to Fish, they'd 1:01:00.800 --> 1:01:03.360 have to like, but let me make the playlist, yes, 1:01:03.520 --> 1:01:05.520 or else you will go you will not get it. 1:01:06.480 --> 1:01:09.360 Community building. Where else are we seeing that? 1:01:09.680 --> 1:01:10.520 Yeah? 1:01:11.040 --> 1:01:13.360 Yeah, other jam. 1:01:13.080 --> 1:01:16.520 Bands also, you know, weirdly, they've sort of invented festival culture, right, 1:01:16.720 --> 1:01:19.280 Like that is massive, the Coachella of it all. I 1:01:19.280 --> 1:01:21.680 mean also, you know Jane's Addiction. Did nobody wants to 1:01:21.720 --> 1:01:24.240 have that conversation? The originator of Lollapalooza. 1:01:24.680 --> 1:01:25.280 I didn't know this. 1:01:25.680 --> 1:01:28.840 It was originally a festival that Jain's Addiction started in 1:01:28.840 --> 1:01:31.560 the nineties and then became Lolla Plouza. But at the 1:01:31.560 --> 1:01:34.280 same time, Fish was showing throwing festivals that are only 1:01:34.320 --> 1:01:35.960 Fish and one hundred thousand people come. 1:01:36.000 --> 1:01:37.360 There's no other bands but Fish. 1:01:37.520 --> 1:01:39.440 But they do like build a village and there's like 1:01:39.560 --> 1:01:43.440 art and installations and weirdo shit happening. When Bonnaroo started, 1:01:43.440 --> 1:01:45.720 which sort of started the modern resurgence of the last 1:01:45.760 --> 1:01:48.080 twenty years of festivals, because they knew, because it was 1:01:48.120 --> 1:01:50.440 more of a jam band festival that it's inception. They 1:01:50.480 --> 1:01:52.080 went to Fish as people were like, how do you 1:01:52.080 --> 1:01:54.600 do a festival? And so Fish tap Bonnaroo and then 1:01:54.800 --> 1:01:56.000 now we have Coachella. 1:01:56.240 --> 1:01:57.040 Wow, you know what I mean. 1:01:57.400 --> 1:01:59.480 Yeah, So there's so many weird things where it's like, 1:01:59.520 --> 1:02:02.919 it's crazy that fish is that girl. Until Billy Joel 1:02:02.920 --> 1:02:04.880 did the Billy Joel, they were the band that had 1:02:04.880 --> 1:02:05.840 most played the Garden. 1:02:06.360 --> 1:02:06.960 That's crazy. 1:02:07.000 --> 1:02:08.600 They played there like one hundred times and sold out 1:02:08.600 --> 1:02:12.040 every show. Whoa, I'm getting back checked again and I'm 1:02:12.080 --> 1:02:12.920 appreciate about it. 1:02:13.880 --> 1:02:15.360 And if only we could do that to the Cheeto 1:02:15.440 --> 1:02:16.120 and Chief. 1:02:16.360 --> 1:02:18.760 Oh my god, if only. But he won't come on 1:02:18.800 --> 1:02:20.120 the podcast. He's afraid. 1:02:20.160 --> 1:02:20.680 Have you tried? 1:02:21.280 --> 1:02:28.560 Yes, yes tried. Could you imagine we haven't? 1:02:29.640 --> 1:02:33.120 What topic do you think he'd do? I think what 1:02:33.200 --> 1:02:34.120 if he did cheetahs? 1:02:36.120 --> 1:02:38.960 And it's like charming because he's making fun of himself and. 1:02:38.960 --> 1:02:40.520 He's like really self aware. 1:02:40.560 --> 1:02:43.320 It's like, I mean, what what topic would he do 1:02:43.440 --> 1:02:45.320 if he was really self aware? I guess he could 1:02:45.360 --> 1:02:50.920 do cheetos. He could do like apprenticing business business. 1:02:51.320 --> 1:02:53.160 I think it would be funny if like one day 1:02:53.160 --> 1:02:55.200 he got bonked on the head and like woke up 1:02:55.360 --> 1:02:59.240 and period, just as a physical gag. Yeah, I know 1:02:59.280 --> 1:03:01.640 there's more, but just period. Well, if he gets bunked 1:03:01.680 --> 1:03:03.080 on the head. I'm on that part. 1:03:03.160 --> 1:03:06.560 I'm that part that part. No, he gets bunked on 1:03:06.560 --> 1:03:08.120 the head and wakes up. He's like, I want to 1:03:08.120 --> 1:03:09.560 do a run of my show. 1:03:09.760 --> 1:03:11.240 If you got bunked on the head and then was like, 1:03:11.360 --> 1:03:13.160 oh my god, isn't it weird that I'm doing this? 1:03:13.400 --> 1:03:15.680 Like isn't it crazy? Like that would be really funny, 1:03:15.920 --> 1:03:17.560 little cartoon birds flying around. 1:03:18.120 --> 1:03:23.360 Dizzy eyes holds a press conference. Never mind, impressre's so good. 1:03:23.440 --> 1:03:27.440 That's in your new hour, right, yeah, here's mine never mind, Wow, 1:03:27.480 --> 1:03:28.760 that's really good. Here's my. 1:03:37.120 --> 1:03:39.440 And that's the title track from Fielding Apple's new record. 1:03:42.280 --> 1:03:45.280 She recorded it all at home with her dogs. That's 1:03:45.280 --> 1:03:48.480 the sound of the dog with the rest. 1:03:48.000 --> 1:03:51.000 The dog she had at that time, rest in power, power, 1:03:51.080 --> 1:03:54.560 that time, that time, at that time, that time. 1:03:54.680 --> 1:03:55.840 This is Trump pop. 1:03:56.440 --> 1:03:58.479 That's that's good, and set up that part. 1:03:58.920 --> 1:04:00.560 Maybe if Trump got bunked on the head, he would 1:04:00.600 --> 1:04:02.919 release Trump Pop Miami, This is Trump Pop. 1:04:04.080 --> 1:04:05.840 That's good. That's really good. 1:04:05.880 --> 1:04:07.720 Get your bonks out January sex. 1:04:08.440 --> 1:04:17.400 Oh, that's good. Terror in my anus. Ifs rolls off 1:04:17.440 --> 1:04:18.360 the tongue. 1:04:18.400 --> 1:04:20.800 Rolls off the tongue, that's another track. There we go 1:04:21.400 --> 1:04:24.240 rolls Royce off the tongue. That's a Kim Petra's track, 1:04:25.680 --> 1:04:26.840 Lick my Cheetoes. 1:04:34.120 --> 1:04:35.640 Way to be brought in. I can't wait for the 1:04:35.640 --> 1:04:39.680 intro to be Overady guests, please welcome to the podcast. 1:04:39.840 --> 1:04:43.480 Philly's favorite comedian, Josh Sharp. Yes, I'll be playing the 1:04:43.480 --> 1:04:46.400 Philly Um Theater. Oh, I love that, Josh. 1:04:46.560 --> 1:04:48.800 To the Big Philly Theater right downtown. 1:04:48.840 --> 1:04:49.400 You can't miss it. 1:04:49.400 --> 1:04:54.600 It's just under uptown and it's gonna be amazing. 1:04:54.840 --> 1:04:55.760 Have you ever been to Denver? 1:04:56.560 --> 1:04:57.760 Actually you can't ask some of that. 1:04:57.800 --> 1:05:00.640 George. I'm sorry to be so cute, but I'm going 1:05:00.720 --> 1:05:03.600 to Denver. Uh, there's no way around it. Because I'm 1:05:03.600 --> 1:05:05.040 seeing ryle O Khylie at Red Rocks. 1:05:05.160 --> 1:05:07.920 And when you posted about that, I thought you were kidding. 1:05:08.360 --> 1:05:12.400 No serious, that rules. And so we've been looking for 1:05:12.440 --> 1:05:14.080 where to stay and whatever are. 1:05:13.960 --> 1:05:16.120 They doing, like the twentieth anniversary of Black Light Tour 1:05:16.200 --> 1:05:16.520 or whatever. 1:05:16.520 --> 1:05:19.640 I don't remember if it's it might be, but it 1:05:19.680 --> 1:05:20.200 guys need to. 1:05:20.160 --> 1:05:21.280 Get into Ryla Kylie Moore. 1:05:21.360 --> 1:05:24.240 That's like it's such a like like a you know 1:05:24.240 --> 1:05:24.640 what I mean. 1:05:25.720 --> 1:05:27.280 Ryle O Kiley is one of I actually recently have 1:05:27.320 --> 1:05:30.000 this experience with Gossip bet Todo's band, where these are 1:05:30.080 --> 1:05:32.840 things I think everyone knows and everyone stands, and then 1:05:32.880 --> 1:05:36.440 you realize no one I saw Gossip. I posted it 1:05:36.600 --> 1:05:37.600 literally got one reply. 1:05:37.760 --> 1:05:39.920 I feel the same about The Knife, another band from 1:05:39.920 --> 1:05:40.120 that era. 1:05:40.280 --> 1:05:42.680 Yeah, never Knife. But so many gay guests have. 1:05:42.640 --> 1:05:43.880 Known so many gigs I don't know. 1:05:43.960 --> 1:05:47.800 They are like girls are at the raves and yeah, 1:05:47.840 --> 1:05:51.320 it's all good. It's all good anyway, fever Ray. That's yeah, 1:05:51.400 --> 1:05:53.960 let's that part. 1:05:54.040 --> 1:05:55.840 I actually don't know. I'm coming clean. 1:05:56.000 --> 1:05:58.600 You should like you listen to Jenny Lewis at all. 1:05:58.880 --> 1:06:00.320 No, it's for a band you. 1:06:00.520 --> 1:06:01.440 It's really good. 1:06:01.320 --> 1:06:03.280 Because there are there is a class of gay guys 1:06:03.280 --> 1:06:05.520 not you. We now know who know Jenny Lewis and don't. 1:06:05.320 --> 1:06:07.680 Know, right Kylie All it's oh, it's like gay guys 1:06:07.680 --> 1:06:09.680 that know Caroline Polo Chepe but don't know Chairlift. 1:06:09.880 --> 1:06:10.200 Thank you. 1:06:10.240 --> 1:06:12.080 And that is a that is a part. 1:06:12.280 --> 1:06:14.720 That part, that is such a that part. Yeah, what 1:06:14.760 --> 1:06:16.640 you just said is such. This is why we need 1:06:16.680 --> 1:06:19.120 it back because that is the response to that. My 1:06:19.240 --> 1:06:20.760 whole body screams that part. 1:06:21.440 --> 1:06:24.120 You know what I mean? Damn, that's so, that's so 1:06:24.280 --> 1:06:27.480 Walt Whitman of you so true, my whole body screaming 1:06:27.520 --> 1:06:28.200 that part. 1:06:28.120 --> 1:06:30.480 As I take loads in the Brooklyn Navy Yard. 1:06:30.640 --> 1:06:30.840 Yeah. 1:06:31.480 --> 1:06:34.160 War Titman is another track off of Slup. 1:06:34.040 --> 1:06:38.000 Pop Cambridge back right, slapt pop Cambridge. 1:06:38.000 --> 1:06:40.959 Slop Pop Walden Pond. Actually it is coming out soon. 1:06:41.160 --> 1:06:41.800 Oh damn. 1:06:42.080 --> 1:06:44.400 How many grasses did I get out of a thousand? 1:06:44.400 --> 1:06:44.680 I don't know. 1:06:44.680 --> 1:06:46.720 If we said it, we got we went on, So 1:06:46.760 --> 1:06:48.160 we are sort of still in that segment. 1:06:48.200 --> 1:06:50.600 Oh, it's still non linear. Well we're liminal. We're still 1:06:50.600 --> 1:06:51.840 in that segment. Yeah, we can't. 1:06:51.880 --> 1:06:53.880 But I think because we're so liminal, we can't give 1:06:53.920 --> 1:06:57.600 you a number. I think that's Juris score was bear emoji? 1:06:57.960 --> 1:07:02.560 Understood? Yeah? Under still score was bear emoji. That's well, damn, 1:07:02.640 --> 1:07:04.400 that's what that is. 1:07:04.440 --> 1:07:06.680 That's either good or bad. That's either good or bad. 1:07:08.080 --> 1:07:12.040 What if you name your child either oh either, Oh 1:07:12.080 --> 1:07:12.520 that's good. 1:07:12.800 --> 1:07:14.560 You hear you have to hear the mother yelling it. 1:07:14.560 --> 1:07:18.400 Out either and it also it is Actually. 1:07:17.720 --> 1:07:22.880 You're gonna have a mother. I am the mother. I 1:07:22.920 --> 1:07:27.320 am the mother. Come through, RuPaul, come through, RuPaul, vote, 1:07:28.600 --> 1:07:36.600 I am the mother. Clack clack clack clack, clack. Vote vote, 1:07:38.240 --> 1:07:40.320 but seriously, you guys, get out there. Seriously, you guys, 1:07:40.320 --> 1:07:46.560 please vote. Should we do our final segment? How well 1:07:46.640 --> 1:07:51.120 I've lost track of lemon and so nonlinear? You tell 1:07:51.160 --> 1:07:54.520 me where we are? Where are we have time? Yeah? 1:07:54.520 --> 1:07:57.880 We should do our final any any lingering Fish notions? 1:07:58.000 --> 1:08:01.400 I mean really asking us just things that's very cute things. Yeah, 1:08:01.720 --> 1:08:03.160 it is cute. I just want to know if there's 1:08:03.160 --> 1:08:06.120 anything that you needed addressed that didn't know I know, 1:08:06.160 --> 1:08:09.520 and I do feel like it was a touchstone for us. Yeah, 1:08:09.560 --> 1:08:11.280 you know, it didn't need to be the bedrock. It 1:08:11.320 --> 1:08:13.080 was a touchstone. It was a touch if we're just 1:08:13.160 --> 1:08:15.640 making different sort of geological rock. 1:08:15.560 --> 1:08:17.599 Base touch my stone, by the way, was another. 1:08:17.800 --> 1:08:23.040 It was like a limestone layer, you know, good limestone bank. 1:08:23.520 --> 1:08:26.719 There we go, Oh my god, an the limestone festival 1:08:26.720 --> 1:08:27.639 in Bloomings, Indiana. 1:08:27.680 --> 1:08:31.440 You're literally just like sort of like fish. 1:08:31.560 --> 1:08:34.960 Can I ask something basic? What is the backstory of 1:08:35.000 --> 1:08:36.880 the name fish spelled with a pH? 1:08:36.960 --> 1:08:38.760 Great question? I don't know. Do you know that? 1:08:38.880 --> 1:08:43.040 I do a couple of different stories. But when they 1:08:43.120 --> 1:08:46.280 first started, so they started eighty three, and when they first. 1:08:46.120 --> 1:08:48.800 Started at Goddard College at Goddard. 1:08:48.400 --> 1:08:51.880 College, which had thirty three people in every year when 1:08:51.920 --> 1:08:52.600 they graduated. 1:08:53.680 --> 1:08:55.320 WHOA they wanted to be. 1:08:56.600 --> 1:08:59.960 That's why they wanted to be, and that's why. 1:09:00.439 --> 1:09:04.760 Everyone was just like what oh, and then it became Fish. 1:09:05.160 --> 1:09:06.760 This is news to me. I'm learning they wanted to 1:09:06.800 --> 1:09:08.040 be pish, do. 1:09:07.920 --> 1:09:09.479 Anything that's ahead of their time, because I'm thinking of 1:09:09.560 --> 1:09:12.360 that very pitchforky band that is three exclamation. 1:09:11.960 --> 1:09:14.760 Points, Yeah, yeah, t chick chick chick chick chick chat. 1:09:14.760 --> 1:09:15.040 That's it. 1:09:16.360 --> 1:09:17.560 That's so Fish. 1:09:17.640 --> 1:09:20.000 I love to learn that because even though I'm so 1:09:20.080 --> 1:09:22.439 tapped out of this scene, because it was like the 1:09:22.479 --> 1:09:25.679 thing I obsessed over from years like seventeen to twenty two. 1:09:26.240 --> 1:09:29.080 Like I think even now, if you played a live 1:09:29.560 --> 1:09:32.759 Fish recording, I would know the song and I probably 1:09:32.760 --> 1:09:34.680 could tell you the year and maybe month of it, 1:09:34.760 --> 1:09:35.840 you know what I mean. Like, it's still a part 1:09:35.840 --> 1:09:38.080 of my brain that knows every single thing about this band. 1:09:38.240 --> 1:09:40.639 So to learn something new that's huge. 1:09:40.840 --> 1:09:41.680 That's that's huge for. 1:09:41.720 --> 1:09:44.639 Me in all of my as someone literate in the lore, 1:09:44.720 --> 1:09:45.599 I didn't know that part. 1:09:45.840 --> 1:09:48.200 That part that that part well, that's just like how 1:09:48.240 --> 1:09:50.800 we want to be called aeo lab and people kept 1:09:50.800 --> 1:09:52.480 saying stradio, Stradio. 1:09:52.240 --> 1:09:55.400 Lab, and so you just became Stradio Lab. 1:09:55.680 --> 1:09:57.000 Yeah, first time we ever sold out? 1:09:57.240 --> 1:10:00.599 One of many, one of many, slippery, slow, what a many? 1:10:00.640 --> 1:10:02.320 But seriously, you guys, how down the barrel? 1:10:02.360 --> 1:10:05.639 This episode has been you know, because you guys sold out. Now, yeah, 1:10:05.800 --> 1:10:07.880 you resisted that urge to make this one punk. And 1:10:07.920 --> 1:10:10.479 it's just so clear and cogent and literate. First time 1:10:10.479 --> 1:10:11.960 listeners would know every single word. 1:10:11.960 --> 1:10:14.080 Oh yeah, no, this is the blueprint. 1:10:13.560 --> 1:10:16.360 This is blue blue, It's gonna be the FYC episode. Yeah, yeah, 1:10:16.400 --> 1:10:18.479 this is well, you know, everything you touch becomes afore 1:10:18.520 --> 1:10:24.320 your consideration. That part, Okay, we should do our final segment. 1:10:24.439 --> 1:10:32.040 That part, Josh, Our final segment is called shout outs, 1:10:32.040 --> 1:10:33.719 and then this segment would be amashed to the grand 1:10:33.720 --> 1:10:36.600 straight tradition of the radio shout out, shouting out to 1:10:36.640 --> 1:10:40.080 anything that we are enjoying, people, places, things, ideas. Imaginally 1:10:40.120 --> 1:10:42.360 twousand one, you're in Times Square shouting out to your 1:10:42.400 --> 1:10:43.200 squad back home. 1:10:44.320 --> 1:10:46.080 What's made about that is I'm literally in Times Square 1:10:46.160 --> 1:10:47.320 right now. But it's twenty sixteen. 1:10:47.600 --> 1:10:49.320 That's the part, Yes, it is, what part. 1:10:49.160 --> 1:10:51.719 That's the same, It's Times Square so that's the same. 1:10:51.800 --> 1:10:53.000 We're coming to your life from times. 1:10:53.120 --> 1:10:54.640 We are coming to your life from we are no 1:10:54.800 --> 1:10:57.280 cap no cap is that coming back? 1:10:57.320 --> 1:10:59.479 No, it's too fresh. But it couldn't like three. But 1:10:59.520 --> 1:11:02.040 I'm we're warm on bet being something. By the way 1:11:02.080 --> 1:11:02.840 I'm doing for you. 1:11:02.800 --> 1:11:07.480 By the way, no fap is another track, and bitch. 1:11:08.160 --> 1:11:15.599 People will get that that's beat. When you said profoundly earlier, 1:11:15.640 --> 1:11:16.760 I was trying to think of a pun and the 1:11:16.840 --> 1:11:18.360 only thing I got was propound me? 1:11:20.600 --> 1:11:23.360 Because the hell is wrong with you? Because ideas like 1:11:23.360 --> 1:11:24.360 that on the table. 1:11:24.520 --> 1:11:26.240 Because I was like, if I say pro pound me, 1:11:26.560 --> 1:11:29.240 no one's going to be like, that's profoundly. We would 1:11:29.280 --> 1:11:29.559 know that. 1:11:29.640 --> 1:11:30.759 Oh I see what you're saying. 1:11:30.960 --> 1:11:31.200 Yeah. 1:11:31.360 --> 1:11:34.640 But also there's so many lyrical directions there, like I 1:11:34.680 --> 1:11:37.120 am pro pound me. I am pro the idea of 1:11:37.160 --> 1:11:37.760 you pounding me. 1:11:37.960 --> 1:11:39.520 Yeah, I'm definitely propos. 1:11:41.960 --> 1:11:46.000 Being pounded, pro pound pro, I'm a pro pound me? 1:11:46.360 --> 1:11:46.759 Yeah? 1:11:47.560 --> 1:11:47.840 Wow? 1:11:48.760 --> 1:11:50.920 Should we do? Okay? How do we do it? I'm 1:11:50.920 --> 1:11:52.719 like George, I don't have one. 1:11:52.920 --> 1:11:55.800 Oh yeah, I don't either, Josh, I could do one. 1:11:56.080 --> 1:11:59.080 You want to go first, that's true, you need that. 1:11:59.160 --> 1:12:00.840 We always think of them on the spot. But of 1:12:00.880 --> 1:12:03.840 course I just had one come to me on the spot. Okay, 1:12:03.840 --> 1:12:05.559 go great, and this helped, you know, I came into 1:12:05.600 --> 1:12:07.200 early on the intro. I should come into early on 1:12:07.240 --> 1:12:07.679 the clothes. 1:12:07.840 --> 1:12:08.040 Yeah. 1:12:08.040 --> 1:12:10.559 Don't you feel as if it bookends for the listener 1:12:10.600 --> 1:12:11.400 and especially the watcher. 1:12:11.479 --> 1:12:12.200 It gives a bookend? 1:12:12.560 --> 1:12:17.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay. Shout out to Love on the Spectrum. 1:12:17.560 --> 1:12:19.840 It's the greatest show on television. I'm so happy it's back. 1:12:19.880 --> 1:12:23.439 These are my absolute friends, y'all. This is the friends 1:12:23.479 --> 1:12:26.639 cast to me is Love on the Spectrum. Talk about 1:12:26.640 --> 1:12:29.639 a warm bath. I'm spending time with David, with Abby, 1:12:29.680 --> 1:12:32.200 with Tanner, with Connor. I'm loving my life. All of 1:12:32.240 --> 1:12:35.360 the new people are so good. I was weeping like 1:12:35.360 --> 1:12:38.000 I'm reading the New Yorker Fish article watching this season 1:12:38.000 --> 1:12:41.559 of Love on the Spectrum. I wish every person would 1:12:41.560 --> 1:12:44.160 watch that show. I think it is so that part 1:12:44.360 --> 1:12:45.200 the best. 1:12:44.960 --> 1:12:45.559 You know what I mean? 1:12:45.840 --> 1:12:48.599 Yeah, So, shouts out to all of them. I would 1:12:48.640 --> 1:12:51.959 love to meet or work with any of you. Please 1:12:52.120 --> 1:12:54.759 find me. Run up to me in a public space 1:12:54.960 --> 1:12:58.240 with a weapon if you need. I want to know you. 1:12:58.680 --> 1:13:01.160 I want to be friends with you, and I want 1:13:01.200 --> 1:13:02.320 to celebrate. 1:13:01.840 --> 1:13:05.599 You most of all. I have also been. I started 1:13:05.680 --> 1:13:08.320 season one like two weeks ago, and I love it. 1:13:08.320 --> 1:13:09.799 It is the best. 1:13:09.960 --> 1:13:13.080 Yeah, I am very fish about it. Where it's like 1:13:13.160 --> 1:13:17.640 I have such earnest admiration for the show and the 1:13:17.640 --> 1:13:19.680 people on it, and they're so funny. 1:13:19.600 --> 1:13:23.120 And it's it's it's it's really nice. They're so funny. 1:13:24.360 --> 1:13:25.559 Okay, I have one. 1:13:25.560 --> 1:13:27.360 Oh, thank God, what's up? 1:13:27.520 --> 1:13:30.880 I'm gonna keep going with via television theme. What's up, 1:13:30.920 --> 1:13:33.040 television viewers? I want to give a shout out to 1:13:33.760 --> 1:13:37.120 this very particular state that I can will my brain 1:13:37.200 --> 1:13:39.719 to be in. It is it. It is a version 1:13:39.760 --> 1:13:42.120 of the Sunken Place, but it is I think as 1:13:42.120 --> 1:13:45.760 a little mourgeois de vive, and I have been accessing 1:13:45.800 --> 1:13:49.439 it every night over the last calendar month, when every 1:13:49.560 --> 1:13:54.160 night I am watching Family Guy on Hulu. Dot se 1:13:54.520 --> 1:13:57.000 to me, I am on season I didn't start from 1:13:57.000 --> 1:13:59.240 the very beginning, but regardless of very I started, I'm 1:13:59.240 --> 1:14:03.520 on season eleven. I'm watching it. I am letting it AutoPlay, 1:14:04.000 --> 1:14:08.880 and I am fully watching Family Guy by myself on 1:14:08.920 --> 1:14:10.479 my computer in bed. 1:14:10.600 --> 1:14:12.560 As God intended, I. 1:14:12.320 --> 1:14:14.880 Am shutting off any part of my brain that is 1:14:14.920 --> 1:14:18.000 reacting to anything, and it is washing over me the 1:14:18.080 --> 1:14:22.599 same way, honestly, a warm bath wood. I think when 1:14:22.640 --> 1:14:25.240 I am ready to comment on what I'm seeing, I 1:14:25.360 --> 1:14:28.639 will activate. But for now I am in this very 1:14:28.680 --> 1:14:32.240 special brain state that I think leminals very liminal and 1:14:32.360 --> 1:14:35.960 is very ampersand and I think rather than judging myself 1:14:36.040 --> 1:14:38.280 for it, I am going to sit in it and 1:14:38.320 --> 1:14:39.160 see what comes of it. 1:14:39.600 --> 1:14:44.280 Wow, whoop, that is crazy preactivated? Yeah, I can't. 1:14:44.479 --> 1:14:46.439 You want to see people, If you want to see 1:14:46.479 --> 1:14:49.320 people look shocked, if you want to see the light 1:14:49.400 --> 1:14:51.639 drain from people's face, tell them you've been watching family 1:14:51.680 --> 1:14:57.479 guy people on all communities. We're talking gay, straight, all mainstream, old, young. 1:14:58.040 --> 1:15:00.840 I've never seen a reaction like that, and I've done 1:15:00.840 --> 1:15:02.200 many things that that are. 1:15:02.160 --> 1:15:08.880 You've done a thing? Okay, what's up? Freaks, losers and 1:15:08.880 --> 1:15:11.080 perverts around the globe. I would like to give a 1:15:11.080 --> 1:15:14.240 shout out to you know that thing when you wake 1:15:14.320 --> 1:15:16.040 up and you're like really stressed out and it's like 1:15:16.040 --> 1:15:17.920 three am and you're like, why am I awake? And 1:15:17.960 --> 1:15:19.720 then you lay there. I want to give a shout 1:15:19.760 --> 1:15:22.439 out to getting up and saying you know what, enough, 1:15:22.560 --> 1:15:24.400 I'm gonna do stuff. We didn't get up, and I'm 1:15:24.400 --> 1:15:27.439 gonna fucking do stuff until I get tired. And I 1:15:27.439 --> 1:15:30.400 find that this is a much more productive way stuff. 1:15:30.760 --> 1:15:34.439 I'm well, one, I'm reading it. Sometimes I'm jerking it. 1:15:34.680 --> 1:15:38.040 Sometimes I'm having a beautiful water. Sometimes I'm journaling. Sometimes 1:15:38.040 --> 1:15:40.240 as soon as I write down like everything that's running 1:15:40.240 --> 1:15:42.240 through my mind, I'm like, oh that's it, Okay, time 1:15:42.280 --> 1:15:44.360 for bed. You need to download. You basically just have 1:15:44.400 --> 1:15:47.439 to like walk around and be like, okay, enough, just 1:15:47.520 --> 1:15:50.800 laying here, and then I have a book. I've got 1:15:50.800 --> 1:15:52.320 a little life from my books so that I can 1:15:52.360 --> 1:15:55.719 read it without waking up Misha. And it is an amazing, 1:15:55.880 --> 1:16:00.400 amazing feeling to just lean in and honestly, sometimes when 1:16:00.400 --> 1:16:02.560 your mind is racing, you actually are having good ideas 1:16:02.800 --> 1:16:04.760 and you just have to roll with it because you 1:16:04.800 --> 1:16:08.280 can't you can't know when the spirit of creativity is 1:16:08.280 --> 1:16:11.240 going to enter you. So when you wake up at 1:16:11.240 --> 1:16:13.240 three am, just roll with it. XXO. 1:16:14.280 --> 1:16:16.439 I'm an adherent of this, but it's a practice. They 1:16:16.439 --> 1:16:18.799 can't you can't always follow because it's happening in a space, 1:16:18.880 --> 1:16:21.320 a liminal space where your mind is not always your mind. 1:16:21.680 --> 1:16:23.680 So there's times for the next day. I forget that. 1:16:23.760 --> 1:16:25.800 I know this is the north Star and I'm so 1:16:25.880 --> 1:16:28.840 frustrated to not have you know, pointed pointed my sled 1:16:28.880 --> 1:16:29.639 dogs towards it. 1:16:30.280 --> 1:16:33.480 By the way, I just read on Billboard that Limanal 1:16:33.920 --> 1:16:37.560 Billboard limb Anal Space has just premiered and it's the 1:16:37.640 --> 1:16:39.120 lead single of slipt Pop. 1:16:38.920 --> 1:16:44.080 Cambridge woom Anal Space Space. That's good. Wow. If anybody 1:16:44.160 --> 1:16:47.400 out there has a lot of time and a Photoshop account, 1:16:48.240 --> 1:16:50.559 we would love for you to make an album cover 1:16:50.680 --> 1:16:52.840 with the track list of all the tracks that we 1:16:52.880 --> 1:16:53.960 have named today. 1:16:54.200 --> 1:16:58.840 I want the tracks b www dot Josh Sharptona dot com. 1:16:58.960 --> 1:17:01.200 That is rare on this graphic that you will share 1:17:01.280 --> 1:17:05.040 far and wide on the dot com dot com. 1:17:05.280 --> 1:17:09.559 Perfect okay, perfect, Well, everyone go see Josh's show and. 1:17:10.600 --> 1:17:14.120 Tickets on sale now, tickets recently on sale at the 1:17:14.160 --> 1:17:15.920 moment that this episode is coming. 1:17:15.720 --> 1:17:17.880 Out Josh Sharp Today dot com. 1:17:18.000 --> 1:17:19.639 Yep. And you know I need this stradio. 1:17:19.640 --> 1:17:22.320 A lot of freaks there, honestly, and I'm going to 1:17:22.360 --> 1:17:25.080 say this on this podcast and and no else, y'all 1:17:25.120 --> 1:17:27.719 will get the show more than every other podcast audience. 1:17:27.800 --> 1:17:30.600 We know that the girls know. 1:17:30.720 --> 1:17:32.439 You're going on Exploration Live and you're saying that. 1:17:32.400 --> 1:17:34.519 Exact same ship. You're on The Daily and you're saying, 1:17:34.520 --> 1:17:37.120 Michael Barbara, your listeners are going to absolutely freak. 1:17:37.200 --> 1:17:40.920 You know, the Daily listeners will hate my show. And 1:17:40.960 --> 1:17:42.640 I will tell that to Michael Barbarrow. I'll say it 1:17:42.680 --> 1:17:45.120 to his face. I'm here to talk about the topic 1:17:45.120 --> 1:17:46.600 of the day, but not my show. I do not 1:17:46.680 --> 1:17:49.120 want your listeners there. Say to Barbaro, do you think 1:17:49.160 --> 1:17:52.800 you could turn him gay again? I think he's got 1:17:52.800 --> 1:17:54.559 some cues. I think some cues. 1:17:57.360 --> 1:17:58.519 He is like ampers encoded. 1:17:58.600 --> 1:18:00.679 He is so and down. 1:18:00.720 --> 1:18:02.479 Have you had him on? Yeah? 1:18:02.680 --> 1:18:05.200 Yeah, actually no, well we had him on, but it 1:18:05.240 --> 1:18:06.240 was a bad episode and ended up. 1:18:07.040 --> 1:18:09.719 Yeah, this was mutually agreed upon from both parties. 1:18:10.760 --> 1:18:12.880 Yeah, yeah, we told him to fuck off. Is this 1:18:12.960 --> 1:18:15.599 known or I cannot? 1:18:16.000 --> 1:18:16.479 I don't know. 1:18:17.200 --> 1:18:19.760 I don't know what y'all podcast Queen's be doing. Y'all have, 1:18:19.920 --> 1:18:20.799 y'all have a community. 1:18:20.880 --> 1:18:21.880 Y'all are the fish. 1:18:22.040 --> 1:18:23.479 You know there's a y'all are the fish. 1:18:24.200 --> 1:18:30.160 Y'all are the well Michael barbro it's an open Invite's. 1:18:29.800 --> 1:18:32.559 An open invite, Actually, Barbara, you can come to opening night. 1:18:33.160 --> 1:18:35.559 I'm gonna save you a ticket in the front waiting 1:18:35.560 --> 1:18:39.920 for Govment style. If Barbarow comes reserved for barbar. 1:18:39.760 --> 1:18:41.680 Oh, that'll be nice. And every night you look and 1:18:41.880 --> 1:18:46.000 he's not there and you're like, fuck, I guess this 1:18:46.040 --> 1:18:49.080 one's just for me. 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