WEBVTT - MLB: Leading Off August 25th, 2022 (Ep. 582) 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:17.119 Leading off starts right now. I am Chris Wels. That 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:19.439 is Andrew Seifer, and we are here to talk to 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:22.200 you about all the baseball happenings with the Peanuts and 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:22.960 cracker Jacks. 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:24.799 I am feeling a little bit better. 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:27.440 I'm not looking any better, but Andrew, I'm glad to 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:29.400 have you here your first Thursday episode. 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:33.159 Yeah, thanks for having me back again. It's fun to 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:36.479 get make my Thursday debut. And I'm here in my parents' 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:38.480 attic in Massachusetts. 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:40.880 You know they say fantasy. 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.239 Managers usually are and live in their parents' basement, right, 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:45.880 so I'm in the attic. I don't, but I'm happy 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:46.400 enough there. 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:47.400 I forgot about that. 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:50.400 Yeah, so, yeah, you're living the quintessential fantasy life right 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:53.120 now in your parents' attic or basement. Is that a 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:54.560 bookshelf I see behind? 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:55.280 Yeah? 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:57.920 If you look in the corner over my other shoulder, 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:00.120 you can maybe even see Albert Einstein he's right, and 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.840 a bicycle there as well. So it's definitely got its 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:03.840 attic vibes going. 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:06.360 Okay, but is it haunted? Because that's the vibe I 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:09.360 get from attics. I get a little haunted vibe. 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:12.160 Maybe so maybe so it depends how you feel about books. 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:15.960 I guess what scarier an attic or a basement. This 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:17.679 is a great question. I think this is the ultimate 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:21.200 question because I feel like an attic is more haunted, 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:24.520 but a basement is just scarier. 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:27.760 Yeah, I'm going basement because I feel like your chance 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:30.119 of running into some sort of animal that you don't 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:32.880 want to see, like a rat or something, or some sort. 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:36.039 Of bugs is a lot higher in that environment. 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:38.240 Okay, I'd love to know, chat what do you think, 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:41.840 basement or attic. That's a good point. I hadn't thought 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:43.920 about the animals. I was really thinking about Poltergeist. But 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:47.600 that's where my brain goes to lots of baseball to cover. 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:49.200 Let's get into the top stuff. 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:53.280 Mariner's George Kirby got to a rare feat by starting 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:57.040 a game with twenty or starting twenty four straight games 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:58.880 with a strike, which I know is kind of like 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.440 a weird staff, but it also just shows you how 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.000 consistent he has been throughout the year. Also, his teammate 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:08.520 Julio Rodriguez got to the twenty twenty club and by 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:13.120 the way, the futures odds on like pretty much everything, 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.240 but rookie of the year is almost laughable at this point, 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:18.399 and Julio, it's a little bit of adle and it's 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.040 thirty five hundred for Bobby Witt on the other side. 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:24.080 But getting back into it, George Kirby's only picked up 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:25.919 five wins this year, but as a three three to 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:30.120 two era has a better x FIP an almost ten 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.280 k per nine nine point four an elite walk per 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:36.320 nine at one point two. And I'm gonna tell you, 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:38.760 be it a rookie or not, George Kirby is showing 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:41.200 all the stuff he did as a prospect in that 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.720 he's got all the command that made us love him. 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:47.840 He's showing strikeouts and he looks like he could be 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:51.280 a big time viable maybe top twenty five SP top 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:52.040 thirty next year. 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:53.919 What do you think about George Kirby rest of the year. 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.839 Oh yeah, I'm totally on board. I honestly this He's 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:59.840 like he's like Rodney Dangerfield. He gets no respect. Like 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.600 I don't understand why his roster rates are so low. 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:05.120 I wrote about this in my intro to my Waiver 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.480 wire piece of Fantasy Pro two weeks ago. At that time, 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:11.240 his roster rate was at forty eight percent in Yahoo, 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.520 and I couldn't believe it was that low, and I 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:16.000 made him the top guy just for that reason. It's 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:19.120 only fifty seven percent now, even after this great outing. 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.360 So like, this is a guy who was like a 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:24.160 top thirty prospect all the like you said, all the 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.280 peripherals back up the performance that he's done up to 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:31.040 this point. Pitches in a good environment, great control, like 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:32.920 you said, I mean that walk rate really gives you 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.920 a nice margin for error even if you have some 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:38.120 run into some bad babb block in a start here 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.480 or there. So yeah, I love this guy, and I 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.320 don't understand why he's not like eighty ninety percent rostered. 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:45.320 This is why I've always loved about him. I've always 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:46.760 been big on him in prospects. 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.680 He almost has a four pitch repertoire of like double digits. 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:54.040 His fastball's been sitting around ninety five. His slider he's 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.440 throwing twenty percent of the time. There's your wipeout strikeout 0:03:56.480 --> 0:04:00.080 pitch he's thrown around eighty seven, I mean almost eighty eight. 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:01.000 You're closing in ninety. 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.720 Is an elite slider territory as far as velocity goes, 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:06.120 and the curve ball has been on point. And you know, 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:09.600 for a guy his age to be throwing and walk 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:11.960 create of only like one, you know, under one and 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:13.440 a half, it's a lead. It's a lead that you 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:15.720 don't see young pitchers do. And I think we don't 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:18.520 give him enough kudos. And then obviously you know Julio, Julio, 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.080 but hitting the twenty twenty mark, I think they said 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.480 the last Mariner to do that was Mike Cameron, who 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:27.080 actually coaches with the Mariners and works with them. The 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:29.839 race manager, Kevin Cash, said that wander Franco will not 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:33.920 resume his minor league rehab assignment before next week. Franco 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.279 suffered a set back with the surgically repaired right hand 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:40.040 wrist while making a rehab stint on Tuesday, and it 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:43.240 is looking less and less likely that we're going to 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.680 get him anytime soon, which begs the question, I know, 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:49.520 it's crazy, how much do you need to hold on to. 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:50.799 Wander Franco at this point? 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:52.720 You know, if he's not going to even resume anything 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.720 until next week, that gets you into September. Then he's 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:58.839 going to have to get some games another weekend. Look 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:00.760 how look at the lack of pretty duction he had 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.800 before he got injured. Andrew, do you think one of 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.480 Franco's a must hold in any type of a redraft 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:07.120 league right now? 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:08.120 I do not. 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:11.240 I was sort of out on Fronco even coming into 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:14.800 the season. I mean, he's obviously a tremendous prospect, and 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:16.480 he's got one of the best hit tools we've seen 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:18.200 from a young player in a really long time. 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.679 So I think he's a great real life player. 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:22.920 I think he's still got some steps he needs to 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:26.000 take in his game before it fully translates to fantasy. 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:28.800 I mean, if he's not giving you that category juice 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:32.479 in power and in speed, then he's not really in 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:35.479 a standard five by five league going to be as 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:37.560 valuable in fantasy as he is in reality. 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:39.359 And then you bring in a hand injury. 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:41.520 I mean, even if he does come back, that can 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:45.320 often sat power, so any power he could have hit 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.680 for he's probably not going to now. And you know, 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:50.000 he's got a very bright future. He could take his 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:51.880 game to the next level in the next couple of years. 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:54.000 But in a redraft format, I really just don't see 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:55.240 the benefit of holding onto him. 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:57.160 Yeah, I don't think there is If anyone is dealing 0:05:57.200 --> 0:06:00.000 with that the two sixty batting average, five homers, five 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.000 stolen bases. I feel like the majority of it came 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:05.919 in that first month of the season, and almost one 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.040 hundred percent differential on his wOBA three toho three this year. 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.320 I'm sorry, three oh five this year, four oh four 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:13.800 last year, or that's actually no, I'm sorry, that's in 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:14.200 triple A. 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:15.320 What was it last year? 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:17.200 It was three forty eight, So you've still got a 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:20.359 huge differential there. He's just not a mushold. There's not 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.080 a muss hold for Wanderfronco if you are dealing with that. 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:26.280 And then yes, of course, the biggest piece of news 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.320 that everybody wants to talk about. Onel Cruz hit a 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:31.560 ball one hundred and twenty two miles an hour, the 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:34.880 hardest hit in stat cast era. I think it was 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.880 what one of you know, two hits in the last 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:40.440 two weeks for the awesome player that's going on for 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:43.120 this season. Hardest hit ball was a single. It smashed 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.520 against the wall and bounced back, and you know, I 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:46.440 don't know what to say anymore. 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:47.320 I continue my thing. 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:50.520 He's got maybe some of the most exciting tools in 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:54.080 all of baseball. Beyond this year, he is exciting as hell. 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:58.239 This year he's not that great. Uh, sub two hundred 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.480 batting average guys don't help you that much. I'm gonna 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.160 stand firm to it for all the Oneo Cruz stands. 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:06.680 You can't come at me next year because I've said 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.040 I'm all game. I'm game in the future, I'll draft him. 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:11.720 But this year was stupid. But he did hit the 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:15.120 hardest tracked ball in stat kaz Era Andrew. 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.400 Let me ask you a question, though, So in a 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:21.520 dynasty league, who would you prefer Onneo Cruz or Wander Franco. 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:23.320 That's a great question. 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:28.800 I would prefer Franco still, but I get why it's closer. 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:30.320 O'neo Cruz is. 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:33.160 Showing no ability to hit for batting average. I mean, 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:36.440 he's showing absolutely nothing. He's hitting a buck ninety nine 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:40.360 right now. He has a almost thirty nine percent k rate, 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.880 and he has played. He's at over two hundred play appearances. 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.040 So let's not be like, you know, it's. 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.720 Got the skulls and blah blah blah, two hundred played 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:52.520 appearances in almost thirty nine percent k rate. I love 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:55.360 the counting stats. Ten homer six dolen bases. It's great, 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.520 we can extrapolate, we could you know, hey, this could. 0:07:58.320 --> 0:07:59.760 Be a thirty fifteen guy. 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.720 He's got to show the ability to hit for contact, 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:04.440 and not only is he not doing it this year, 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:06.800 he's doing it at maybe one of the worst clips, 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:10.640 sub two hundred, horrible strike rate. I think he's a 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.600 huge bet on, and when it gets kind of fixed, 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.280 I think it'll be better. But I would bet on 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.640 Wander Franco. I think Wander's counting stats are going to 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:22.000 catch up to him, but I also don't think they 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:24.880 could reach Cruz's level. But I think Cruise is looking 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.400 like he is a two to maybe three category player, 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.040 where Franco still has a five category in him. It 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:31.960 just might not be at the same elite level. Are 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:33.280 you Cruise over Franco? 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:37.080 Honestly, I think if it's a league where stolen bases matter, 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:40.240 I'm still kind of leaning with Cruz here. I mean, 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:42.480 the thing is, I agree with you he doesn't look 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:44.400 ready for the major leagues at all. But if you 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:46.120 look at his minor league numbers, I mean, he had 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:47.920 a striker rate in the twenty two to twenty three 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:51.000 percent range in the minors, so that wasn't outrageously bad. 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:53.760 I mean, you know, this is a team going nowhere 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:55.680 that kind of rushed him up, and I feel like 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:59.079 we can't see, you know, a thirty nine percent strikeout 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:00.840 right and say that like he's always going to be that. 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:02.760 I think there's as much of a chance that he 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.800 makes inroads there as there is that Franco makes inroads 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:08.600 in terms of power. So for that reason, like if 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:10.680 you wanted to tell me who's the safer bet to 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.480 play twenty years in the major leagues and be a 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:16.280 really good baseball player, I would obviously say Wander Franco. 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:18.600 But if you're telling me in a five y five league, 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.760 I need that category, juice, who's the guy that's got 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.120 the upside to be like the number one player in fantasy? 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.319 To me, that's got to be O'Neil Cruz. And I 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:28.320 guess I'd just like to shoot for the moon there. 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:32.120 Yeah, I guess it's just it's so extreme. I have 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:33.880 a hard time with it. But I get I get 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.839 what you're saying Wanderfronco. I've watched him for a long time. 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:39.800 I think there is but like you said, there might 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:40.920 be twenty twenty in there. 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:41.160 You know. 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:44.079 Conditioning has got to be an issue he's got to consider. 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:47.320 It's just it's so funny how especially like in the 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:49.400 prospect world they do this, but you want to come 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:52.920 over here. You never see passes for bad strikeout raids. 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:56.160 You never see passes for batting average unless your name 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:59.000 is O'Neil Cruz. He's getting all the passes in the world. 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:01.920 I have a hard time believing in that you're somebody 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:05.760 that would give any other player passes on a thirty 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.760 plus percent K percentage. But yet he does because he's 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:10.960 a young guy and he hasn't had enough years under 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.920 his belt to prove otherwise. But it's a thirty nine 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:15.920 percent K rate. That's bunkers. 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:17.040 It is bonkers. 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:21.560 But I mean, we've seen guys like jave Baiaz Adallas Garcia, 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:23.800 guys like this have really high strike out rates and 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:27.560 still be really good in fantasy because of the category 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:29.960 juice they provide. So he doesn't need to get that 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:32.760 strike out rate down to like twenty three percent like 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:34.560 you had, and the miners to be really valuable. If 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:37.240 he can even get it into the thirty percent range, 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:39.120 I think you're talking about a guy who could be 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:39.880 really useful. 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:42.400 Yeah, but what the weird thing is is the last 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:44.640 thing on that the weird thing that exists with him. 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:45.520 This is one of those. 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:46.960 Guys where it's like, God, he would love to like 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:50.160 go and get him right now. But even though he's 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.640 like statistically looking like one of the worst players in 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.400 baseball right now with a sub two hundred and the 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:59.600 k rate, he's not available, Like, no one will sell 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:00.880 you him for any cheap. 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.480 So you have to be the person that's willing to risk. 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:07.320 A high dollar a high dollar cost to get him 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:11.360 and just cross those fingers, just really hope that the 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:13.520 k raid is going to drop to a sustainable area 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:16.560 and he'll start actually hitting for more contact, because. 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:17.840 When he does, it's amazing. 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:20.000 I would love to buy on him because I think 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:23.200 he has a great potential bet for any fix. 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:28.160 It's just he's not cheap. There's huge, huge red flag 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:31.520 warning signs and you know this, it's not that great 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:31.959 for this year. 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:35.680 Yeah that I totally can buy what you're saying. He 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.880 could easily be overvalued in the marketplace just because you 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:41.000 do see things like this hardest hit ball ever and 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:42.959 you just dream about the potential. 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.520 So that's absolutely true. I feel like It's like the same. 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:46.559 Thing with flus two in the minors. 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.679 I just want to point out, Yeah, it's like the 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.840 same thing with like, you know, in football or something. 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.720 The coaches always draft the skills because they believe they 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:56.880 can coach the guy up and teach them the fundamentals 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.240 if they have the natural ability, because you can't teach that, 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:01.720 you know. So I feel like fantasy managers the same way. 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:03.800 When it comes to Onio Cruz, it's like he's got 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:07.040 the tools, he just needs to develop the fundamentals. 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:08.480 Do you think you can help him with that? 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:11.000 By the way, do you think the Pirates are a 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:12.360 team that are gonna be able to help him? 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:13.920 Yeah? I don't know. Maybe not, I don't know. 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:16.840 On the injury front, Jared Walsh placed on the ten 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.280 day I L with thoracic outlet syndrome. 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:21.040 No boy, no not good. 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.880 Santa Boguart set out Wednesday after leaving Tuesday's game with 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:27.640 back spasms. Tommy fam sat out Wednesday with low backspasms 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.600 a lot of back stuff after slamming into the wall 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:33.480 on Tuesday. Wilson Catura sat out again yesterday with left 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.199 ankle stiffness. But there's hope that he's not going to 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:39.079 land on the iel. Hobby Baias set out with back spasms, 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:43.320 Gas McCormick suffered dislocated Pinky Ouch and Royal's relief pitcher 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:46.120 Josh Staumont placed on the fifteen day. I l would 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:49.240 write bicep tendonites did, Buddy, when you were saying those 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.080 guys that were similar to him, did you have like 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.720 a moment of clarity of like you just compared him 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:55.680 to Hovey Baya's and where Hobby Bias. 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.000 Is right now, who is the other one? There's another one? 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:00.040 Where I was he's having a great season, actually. 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:01.640 Is like a better I mean those guys are like 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:03.640 almost pull oar opposite the dolls is like five 't 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:07.120 ten in real life. I've stood next to him and O'Neil. 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:10.080 Cruz is a completely different type of physical player. 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:12.880 But yeah, I was saying, like that's you know, he 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.840 could he could be good even if he doesn't fully blossom, 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:19.480 because that's like those guys are flawed players. Like that's 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:22.440 assuming that Cruz never fully puts it all together. He 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:24.360 could I'm saying he could still be pretty valuable. 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:27.440 Yeah, exactly, Alwonky, this is my favorite thing is Cruse tall. 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.760 And by the way, look at this, Joey p doing 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:34.040 a live football show on Fantasy Pros the same time 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:39.640 we're doing this. What a turncoat, What an absolute scab turncoat. 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:41.120 He has given up on all of you. 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.840 I have not Oh well, you got me instead of 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:45.400 now so exactly right. 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.600 Joe Pie's a pia give me a break. This day 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.520 in baseball nineteen eighty six, I was three years old, 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:55.480 Oakland A's third baseman Mark maguire hits his first major 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:59.080 league home run, a five hundred and fifty foot blast 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:02.400 to center off of Walt Harrell as Oakland beat Detroit 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.880 eight to four at Tiger Stadium. You now, I grew 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:06.560 up loving Mark McGuire. 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:08.840 I grew up in the Bay Area. My whole family 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.199 were as fans. My uncle who. 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:13.920 Shout out to my uncle who's in the hospital right now. 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:18.000 He used to run a pool business and he did 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.480 Mark McGuire's pool, and he got to one time sit 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.080 down and hang out with Mark McGuire, and they knew 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:24.840 like he was just my favorite player. If you grew 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:27.320 up in the Bay Area, Mark mc Mark McGuire was 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:28.760 even more popular than Barry Bonds. 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:30.960 And that was my guy. So I always loved little 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:32.400 Mark McGuire. Pieces of news. 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.480 I got some trivia for you, and this is going 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:37.640 to be for you Andrew to play as well. Who 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:42.320 holds the al NL record for consecutive quality starts in 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:46.240 a single season. There's a lot of interesting names out there. 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:50.240 I don't want to give any hints, but the consecutive 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:55.080 al NL record for quality starts quite a big number. 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:56.320 You got any guesses? 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.800 Oh god, that's such a hard question. I mean quality. 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:02.400 It's like you could be given up three runs every 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:03.360 time and keep it going. 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:04.600 Yeah, well you know what. 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:09.200 Yeah, one you might think of, remember is that Gallen 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:14.200 Zach Gallon had that run of like thirteen or fourteen 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.720 I think in twenty nineteen. That was one of those guys. 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.640 This number is over twenty. 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.200 That's a hint. I'm giving it over twenty. 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:24.680 You know. 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:26.120 The thing that just came to mind, and I know 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:27.960 this isn't the answer, but it reminded me of Oral 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:33.560 Herscheizer's like consecutive scoreless inning stretch. But it's probably not 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:34.680 someone that far back right. 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:38.400 Now, David guess, Bob Gibson incorrect. Mike Mussina from one 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:42.640 Jedro Martinez. That's a great guess. Incorrect, it is not Pedro. 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:46.040 How about one more hint for everybody. So I've given 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:50.000 you the relative number. It's over twenty. It has happened 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:54.400 within the last five years. 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:56.440 Is it de Grom? 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:57.560 It is de Grom? 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:58.360 Oh right there? 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.080 Clip when I was trying to say Gallon because I 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:01.640 was looking at it. 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:02.760 Jacob de Gram. 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:07.920 Twenty four quality starts in twenty eighteen. De Gram is 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:10.840 pitching today. That's why that popped up. By the way, Well, 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.200 you know, another fun thing, the books, at least when 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:15.480 I maybe there might be a singular book or two 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:17.880 and it just has an updated on the Vetting Pros 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.520 cheat sheet. I see no numbers on the de Gram 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:24.720 strikeout numbers, and I think we saw an absurd as nine, 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:26.720 like nine and a half for de Gram, which we've 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:29.160 never I've never seen all season long. That they're just 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:31.680 not even placing da Gram on the books anymore. But 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.160 twenty four straight quality starts that is, like, I don't know, 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.440 I feel like that's one of the most impressive singular 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:39.760 things a guy can do. Like I think twenty four 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:42.920 quality starts is in line with like fifty straight games 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:44.280 with a hit or am I off here? 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:44.920 Yeah? 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.280 No, I think that's fair, And it's interesting because it's 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:49.200 you know, some of these pictures you associate them with 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:51.720 their dominance, and that stat is less about dominance and 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:54.640 more about consistency. So when you have the dominance and 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:59.000 the consistency, than you are truly a great pitcher. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.480 You're just being mean today. Why are you so salty? 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:04.520 Says I thought if it was to Grom, it would 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:06.440 be over like a six year span. 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:07.760 You're just being rude. 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:12.280 Let's let's not talk bad about the best picture in baseball, 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:13.400 regardless if he gets hurt. 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.520 Let's be positive today. I don't feel good. 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:18.560 I need all of the positivity for Jacob to gram stat. 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:22.760 Heroes Jose Ramirez two homers, three for three, three RBI, 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:26.639 huge day. Nathaniel or Nate Low Actually, I remember I 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:29.480 was right. I was standing next to him over at 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:32.879 Rangers camp during spring training and someone asked him. They're like, 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:34.840 do you do you want to be called Nathaniel? And 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:36.679 he was just like, Buddy, I don't care what you 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:38.560 call me. Call me whatever you want, Nate Nathaniel. So 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:40.520 I don't know why they've stuck with the Nathaniel because 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.720 he doesn't care. But Nathaniel Low homer five RBIs Matt 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.160 Olsen three for five with a homer. Four RBIs Willie 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:49.440