1 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: Leading off starts right now. I am Chris Wels. That 2 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: is Andrew Seifer, and we are here to talk to 3 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: you about all the baseball happenings with the Peanuts and 4 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: cracker Jacks. 5 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 2: I am feeling a little bit better. 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: I'm not looking any better, but Andrew, I'm glad to 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: have you here your first Thursday episode. 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me back again. It's fun to 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 3: get make my Thursday debut. And I'm here in my parents' 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 3: attic in Massachusetts. 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 4: You know they say fantasy. 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 3: Managers usually are and live in their parents' basement, right, 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 3: so I'm in the attic. I don't, but I'm happy 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: enough there. 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: I forgot about that. 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, yeah, you're living the quintessential fantasy life right 17 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: now in your parents' attic or basement. Is that a 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: bookshelf I see behind? 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? 20 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: If you look in the corner over my other shoulder, 21 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 3: you can maybe even see Albert Einstein he's right, and 22 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: a bicycle there as well. So it's definitely got its 23 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 3: attic vibes going. 24 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: Okay, but is it haunted? Because that's the vibe I 25 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: get from attics. I get a little haunted vibe. 26 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 4: Maybe so maybe so it depends how you feel about books. 27 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: I guess what scarier an attic or a basement. This 28 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: is a great question. I think this is the ultimate 29 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: question because I feel like an attic is more haunted, 30 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: but a basement is just scarier. 31 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going basement because I feel like your chance 32 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 3: of running into some sort of animal that you don't 33 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: want to see, like a rat or something, or some sort. 34 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 4: Of bugs is a lot higher in that environment. 35 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: Okay, I'd love to know, chat what do you think, 36 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: basement or attic. That's a good point. I hadn't thought 37 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: about the animals. I was really thinking about Poltergeist. But 38 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: that's where my brain goes to lots of baseball to cover. 39 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: Let's get into the top stuff. 40 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: Mariner's George Kirby got to a rare feat by starting 41 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: a game with twenty or starting twenty four straight games 42 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: with a strike, which I know is kind of like 43 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: a weird staff, but it also just shows you how 44 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: consistent he has been throughout the year. Also, his teammate 45 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: Julio Rodriguez got to the twenty twenty club and by 46 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: the way, the futures odds on like pretty much everything, 47 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: but rookie of the year is almost laughable at this point, 48 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,399 Speaker 1: and Julio, it's a little bit of adle and it's 49 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: thirty five hundred for Bobby Witt on the other side. 50 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: But getting back into it, George Kirby's only picked up 51 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: five wins this year, but as a three three to 52 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: two era has a better x FIP an almost ten 53 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: k per nine nine point four an elite walk per 54 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: nine at one point two. And I'm gonna tell you, 55 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: be it a rookie or not, George Kirby is showing 56 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: all the stuff he did as a prospect in that 57 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: he's got all the command that made us love him. 58 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: He's showing strikeouts and he looks like he could be 59 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: a big time viable maybe top twenty five SP top 60 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: thirty next year. 61 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 2: What do you think about George Kirby rest of the year. 62 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm totally on board. I honestly this He's 63 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: like he's like Rodney Dangerfield. He gets no respect. Like 64 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 3: I don't understand why his roster rates are so low. 65 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: I wrote about this in my intro to my Waiver 66 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: wire piece of Fantasy Pro two weeks ago. At that time, 67 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 3: his roster rate was at forty eight percent in Yahoo, 68 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 3: and I couldn't believe it was that low, and I 69 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: made him the top guy just for that reason. It's 70 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 3: only fifty seven percent now, even after this great outing. 71 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 3: So like, this is a guy who was like a 72 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 3: top thirty prospect all the like you said, all the 73 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 3: peripherals back up the performance that he's done up to 74 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 3: this point. Pitches in a good environment, great control, like 75 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 3: you said, I mean that walk rate really gives you 76 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: a nice margin for error even if you have some 77 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 3: run into some bad babb block in a start here 78 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: or there. So yeah, I love this guy, and I 79 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: don't understand why he's not like eighty ninety percent rostered. 80 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: This is why I've always loved about him. I've always 81 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: been big on him in prospects. 82 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: He almost has a four pitch repertoire of like double digits. 83 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: His fastball's been sitting around ninety five. His slider he's 84 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: throwing twenty percent of the time. There's your wipeout strikeout 85 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: pitch he's thrown around eighty seven, I mean almost eighty eight. 86 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: You're closing in ninety. 87 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: Is an elite slider territory as far as velocity goes, 88 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: and the curve ball has been on point. And you know, 89 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: for a guy his age to be throwing and walk 90 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: create of only like one, you know, under one and 91 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: a half, it's a lead. It's a lead that you 92 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: don't see young pitchers do. And I think we don't 93 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: give him enough kudos. And then obviously you know Julio, Julio, 94 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: but hitting the twenty twenty mark, I think they said 95 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: the last Mariner to do that was Mike Cameron, who 96 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: actually coaches with the Mariners and works with them. The 97 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: race manager, Kevin Cash, said that wander Franco will not 98 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: resume his minor league rehab assignment before next week. Franco 99 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: suffered a set back with the surgically repaired right hand 100 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: wrist while making a rehab stint on Tuesday, and it 101 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: is looking less and less likely that we're going to 102 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: get him anytime soon, which begs the question, I know, 103 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: it's crazy, how much do you need to hold on to. 104 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 2: Wander Franco at this point? 105 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: You know, if he's not going to even resume anything 106 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: until next week, that gets you into September. Then he's 107 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: going to have to get some games another weekend. Look 108 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: how look at the lack of pretty duction he had 109 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: before he got injured. Andrew, do you think one of 110 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: Franco's a must hold in any type of a redraft 111 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: league right now? 112 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 4: I do not. 113 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 3: I was sort of out on Fronco even coming into 114 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: the season. I mean, he's obviously a tremendous prospect, and 115 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 3: he's got one of the best hit tools we've seen 116 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: from a young player in a really long time. 117 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,679 Speaker 4: So I think he's a great real life player. 118 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: I think he's still got some steps he needs to 119 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: take in his game before it fully translates to fantasy. 120 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: I mean, if he's not giving you that category juice 121 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 3: in power and in speed, then he's not really in 122 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 3: a standard five by five league going to be as 123 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: valuable in fantasy as he is in reality. 124 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 4: And then you bring in a hand injury. 125 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: I mean, even if he does come back, that can 126 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: often sat power, so any power he could have hit 127 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: for he's probably not going to now. And you know, 128 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: he's got a very bright future. He could take his 129 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: game to the next level in the next couple of years. 130 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: But in a redraft format, I really just don't see 131 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: the benefit of holding onto him. 132 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think there is If anyone is dealing 133 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: with that the two sixty batting average, five homers, five 134 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: stolen bases. I feel like the majority of it came 135 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: in that first month of the season, and almost one 136 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: hundred percent differential on his wOBA three toho three this year. 137 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, three oh five this year, four oh four 138 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: last year, or that's actually no, I'm sorry, that's in 139 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: triple A. 140 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: What was it last year? 141 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: It was three forty eight, So you've still got a 142 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 1: huge differential there. He's just not a mushold. There's not 143 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: a muss hold for Wanderfronco if you are dealing with that. 144 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: And then yes, of course, the biggest piece of news 145 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: that everybody wants to talk about. Onel Cruz hit a 146 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: ball one hundred and twenty two miles an hour, the 147 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: hardest hit in stat cast era. I think it was 148 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: what one of you know, two hits in the last 149 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: two weeks for the awesome player that's going on for 150 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: this season. Hardest hit ball was a single. It smashed 151 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: against the wall and bounced back, and you know, I 152 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: don't know what to say anymore. 153 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: I continue my thing. 154 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: He's got maybe some of the most exciting tools in 155 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: all of baseball. Beyond this year, he is exciting as hell. 156 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,239 Speaker 1: This year he's not that great. Uh, sub two hundred 157 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: batting average guys don't help you that much. I'm gonna 158 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: stand firm to it for all the Oneo Cruz stands. 159 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: You can't come at me next year because I've said 160 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: I'm all game. I'm game in the future, I'll draft him. 161 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: But this year was stupid. But he did hit the 162 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: hardest tracked ball in stat kaz Era Andrew. 163 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question, though, So in a 164 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: dynasty league, who would you prefer Onneo Cruz or Wander Franco. 165 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: That's a great question. 166 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: I would prefer Franco still, but I get why it's closer. 167 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: O'neo Cruz is. 168 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: Showing no ability to hit for batting average. I mean, 169 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: he's showing absolutely nothing. He's hitting a buck ninety nine 170 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: right now. He has a almost thirty nine percent k rate, 171 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: and he has played. He's at over two hundred play appearances. 172 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: So let's not be like, you know, it's. 173 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: Got the skulls and blah blah blah, two hundred played 174 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: appearances in almost thirty nine percent k rate. I love 175 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: the counting stats. Ten homer six dolen bases. It's great, 176 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: we can extrapolate, we could you know, hey, this could. 177 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: Be a thirty fifteen guy. 178 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: He's got to show the ability to hit for contact, 179 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: and not only is he not doing it this year, 180 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: he's doing it at maybe one of the worst clips, 181 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: sub two hundred, horrible strike rate. I think he's a 182 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: huge bet on, and when it gets kind of fixed, 183 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: I think it'll be better. But I would bet on 184 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: Wander Franco. I think Wander's counting stats are going to 185 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: catch up to him, but I also don't think they 186 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: could reach Cruz's level. But I think Cruise is looking 187 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: like he is a two to maybe three category player, 188 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: where Franco still has a five category in him. It 189 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: just might not be at the same elite level. Are 190 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: you Cruise over Franco? 191 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 3: Honestly, I think if it's a league where stolen bases matter, 192 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: I'm still kind of leaning with Cruz here. I mean, 193 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 3: the thing is, I agree with you he doesn't look 194 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 3: ready for the major leagues at all. But if you 195 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: look at his minor league numbers, I mean, he had 196 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 3: a striker rate in the twenty two to twenty three 197 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 3: percent range in the minors, so that wasn't outrageously bad. 198 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, this is a team going nowhere 199 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 3: that kind of rushed him up, and I feel like 200 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 3: we can't see, you know, a thirty nine percent strikeout 201 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 3: right and say that like he's always going to be that. 202 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 3: I think there's as much of a chance that he 203 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: makes inroads there as there is that Franco makes inroads 204 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 3: in terms of power. So for that reason, like if 205 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 3: you wanted to tell me who's the safer bet to 206 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: play twenty years in the major leagues and be a 207 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 3: really good baseball player, I would obviously say Wander Franco. 208 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: But if you're telling me in a five y five league, 209 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 3: I need that category, juice, who's the guy that's got 210 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: the upside to be like the number one player in fantasy? 211 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 4: To me, that's got to be O'Neil Cruz. And I 212 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 4: guess I'd just like to shoot for the moon there. 213 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's just it's so extreme. I have 214 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: a hard time with it. But I get I get 215 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: what you're saying Wanderfronco. I've watched him for a long time. 216 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: I think there is but like you said, there might 217 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: be twenty twenty in there. 218 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: You know. 219 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: Conditioning has got to be an issue he's got to consider. 220 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: It's just it's so funny how especially like in the 221 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: prospect world they do this, but you want to come 222 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: over here. You never see passes for bad strikeout raids. 223 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: You never see passes for batting average unless your name 224 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: is O'Neil Cruz. He's getting all the passes in the world. 225 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: I have a hard time believing in that you're somebody 226 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: that would give any other player passes on a thirty 227 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: plus percent K percentage. But yet he does because he's 228 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: a young guy and he hasn't had enough years under 229 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: his belt to prove otherwise. But it's a thirty nine 230 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: percent K rate. That's bunkers. 231 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 4: It is bonkers. 232 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 3: But I mean, we've seen guys like jave Baiaz Adallas Garcia, 233 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 3: guys like this have really high strike out rates and 234 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 3: still be really good in fantasy because of the category 235 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 3: juice they provide. So he doesn't need to get that 236 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 3: strike out rate down to like twenty three percent like 237 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 3: you had, and the miners to be really valuable. If 238 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 3: he can even get it into the thirty percent range, 239 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 3: I think you're talking about a guy who could be 240 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 3: really useful. 241 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but what the weird thing is is the last 242 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: thing on that the weird thing that exists with him. 243 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: This is one of those. 244 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: Guys where it's like, God, he would love to like 245 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: go and get him right now. But even though he's 246 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: like statistically looking like one of the worst players in 247 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: baseball right now with a sub two hundred and the 248 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: k rate, he's not available, Like, no one will sell 249 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: you him for any cheap. 250 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: So you have to be the person that's willing to risk. 251 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: A high dollar a high dollar cost to get him 252 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: and just cross those fingers, just really hope that the 253 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: k raid is going to drop to a sustainable area 254 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: and he'll start actually hitting for more contact, because. 255 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: When he does, it's amazing. 256 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: I would love to buy on him because I think 257 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: he has a great potential bet for any fix. 258 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: It's just he's not cheap. There's huge, huge red flag 259 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: warning signs and you know this, it's not that great 260 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 2: for this year. 261 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 3: Yeah that I totally can buy what you're saying. He 262 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 3: could easily be overvalued in the marketplace just because you 263 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 3: do see things like this hardest hit ball ever and 264 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 3: you just dream about the potential. 265 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 4: So that's absolutely true. I feel like It's like the same. 266 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 2: Thing with flus two in the minors. 267 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 3: I just want to point out, Yeah, it's like the 268 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 3: same thing with like, you know, in football or something. 269 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: The coaches always draft the skills because they believe they 270 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 3: can coach the guy up and teach them the fundamentals 271 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: if they have the natural ability, because you can't teach that, 272 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 3: you know. So I feel like fantasy managers the same way. 273 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: When it comes to Onio Cruz, it's like he's got 274 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 3: the tools, he just needs to develop the fundamentals. 275 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: Do you think you can help him with that? 276 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: By the way, do you think the Pirates are a 277 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: team that are gonna be able to help him? 278 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 4: Yeah? I don't know. Maybe not, I don't know. 279 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: On the injury front, Jared Walsh placed on the ten 280 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: day I L with thoracic outlet syndrome. 281 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: No boy, no not good. 282 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: Santa Boguart set out Wednesday after leaving Tuesday's game with 283 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: back spasms. Tommy fam sat out Wednesday with low backspasms 284 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: a lot of back stuff after slamming into the wall 285 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Wilson Catura sat out again yesterday with left 286 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: ankle stiffness. But there's hope that he's not going to 287 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: land on the iel. Hobby Baias set out with back spasms, 288 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: Gas McCormick suffered dislocated Pinky Ouch and Royal's relief pitcher 289 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: Josh Staumont placed on the fifteen day. I l would 290 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: write bicep tendonites did, Buddy, when you were saying those 291 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: guys that were similar to him, did you have like 292 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: a moment of clarity of like you just compared him 293 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: to Hovey Baya's and where Hobby Bias. 294 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: Is right now, who is the other one? There's another one? 295 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 4: Where I was he's having a great season, actually. 296 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: Is like a better I mean those guys are like 297 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: almost pull oar opposite the dolls is like five 't 298 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: ten in real life. I've stood next to him and O'Neil. 299 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: Cruz is a completely different type of physical player. 300 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: But yeah, I was saying, like that's you know, he 301 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 3: could he could be good even if he doesn't fully blossom, 302 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 3: because that's like those guys are flawed players. Like that's 303 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 3: assuming that Cruz never fully puts it all together. He 304 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 3: could I'm saying he could still be pretty valuable. 305 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Alwonky, this is my favorite thing is Cruse tall. 306 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: And by the way, look at this, Joey p doing 307 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: a live football show on Fantasy Pros the same time 308 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: we're doing this. What a turncoat, What an absolute scab turncoat. 309 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: He has given up on all of you. 310 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 3: I have not Oh well, you got me instead of 311 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: now so exactly right. 312 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: Joe Pie's a pia give me a break. This day 313 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: in baseball nineteen eighty six, I was three years old, 314 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: Oakland A's third baseman Mark maguire hits his first major 315 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: league home run, a five hundred and fifty foot blast 316 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: to center off of Walt Harrell as Oakland beat Detroit 317 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: eight to four at Tiger Stadium. You now, I grew 318 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: up loving Mark McGuire. 319 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 2: I grew up in the Bay Area. My whole family 320 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 2: were as fans. My uncle who. 321 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: Shout out to my uncle who's in the hospital right now. 322 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: He used to run a pool business and he did 323 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: Mark McGuire's pool, and he got to one time sit 324 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: down and hang out with Mark McGuire, and they knew 325 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: like he was just my favorite player. If you grew 326 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: up in the Bay Area, Mark mc Mark McGuire was 327 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: even more popular than Barry Bonds. 328 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: And that was my guy. So I always loved little 329 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: Mark McGuire. Pieces of news. 330 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: I got some trivia for you, and this is going 331 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: to be for you Andrew to play as well. Who 332 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: holds the al NL record for consecutive quality starts in 333 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: a single season. There's a lot of interesting names out there. 334 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to give any hints, but the consecutive 335 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: al NL record for quality starts quite a big number. 336 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: You got any guesses? 337 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 4: Oh god, that's such a hard question. I mean quality. 338 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: It's like you could be given up three runs every 339 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 3: time and keep it going. 340 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, well you know what. 341 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, one you might think of, remember is that Gallen 342 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: Zach Gallon had that run of like thirteen or fourteen 343 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: I think in twenty nineteen. That was one of those guys. 344 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: This number is over twenty. 345 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: That's a hint. I'm giving it over twenty. 346 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 4: You know. 347 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: The thing that just came to mind, and I know 348 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 3: this isn't the answer, but it reminded me of Oral 349 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 3: Herscheizer's like consecutive scoreless inning stretch. But it's probably not 350 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 3: someone that far back right. 351 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: Now, David guess, Bob Gibson incorrect. Mike Mussina from one 352 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: Jedro Martinez. That's a great guess. Incorrect, it is not Pedro. 353 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: How about one more hint for everybody. So I've given 354 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: you the relative number. It's over twenty. It has happened 355 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: within the last five years. 356 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 4: Is it de Grom? 357 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: It is de Grom? 358 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 4: Oh right there? 359 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: Clip when I was trying to say Gallon because I 360 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: was looking at it. 361 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: Jacob de Gram. 362 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: Twenty four quality starts in twenty eighteen. De Gram is 363 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: pitching today. That's why that popped up. By the way, Well, 364 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, another fun thing, the books, at least when 365 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: I maybe there might be a singular book or two 366 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: and it just has an updated on the Vetting Pros 367 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: cheat sheet. I see no numbers on the de Gram 368 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: strikeout numbers, and I think we saw an absurd as nine, 369 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: like nine and a half for de Gram, which we've 370 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: never I've never seen all season long. That they're just 371 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: not even placing da Gram on the books anymore. But 372 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: twenty four straight quality starts that is, like, I don't know, 373 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: I feel like that's one of the most impressive singular 374 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: things a guy can do. Like I think twenty four 375 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: quality starts is in line with like fifty straight games 376 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: with a hit or am I off here? 377 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 4: Yeah? 378 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 3: No, I think that's fair, And it's interesting because it's 379 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 3: you know, some of these pictures you associate them with 380 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 3: their dominance, and that stat is less about dominance and 381 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 3: more about consistency. So when you have the dominance and 382 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 3: the consistency, than you are truly a great pitcher. 383 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: You're just being mean today. Why are you so salty? 384 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: Says I thought if it was to Grom, it would 385 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: be over like a six year span. 386 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: You're just being rude. 387 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: Let's let's not talk bad about the best picture in baseball, 388 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: regardless if he gets hurt. 389 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: Let's be positive today. I don't feel good. 390 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: I need all of the positivity for Jacob to gram stat. 391 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: Heroes Jose Ramirez two homers, three for three, three RBI, 392 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: huge day. Nathaniel or Nate Low Actually, I remember I 393 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: was right. I was standing next to him over at 394 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: Rangers camp during spring training and someone asked him. They're like, 395 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: do you do you want to be called Nathaniel? And 396 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: he was just like, Buddy, I don't care what you 397 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: call me. Call me whatever you want, Nate Nathaniel. So 398 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: I don't know why they've stuck with the Nathaniel because 399 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't care. But Nathaniel Low homer five RBIs Matt 400 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: Olsen three for five with a homer. Four RBIs Willie 401 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: Adamis three for four with a homer. Hunter Renfro, Hunter 402 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: Renfro was on the prop sheet yesterday. He had a 403 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: bomb three for five, a couple RBIs Austin Barnes, we'll 404 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: talk about him in a minute, had a homer. Jt 405 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: Romuto three for five with a homer. Continuing that and 406 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: maybe number one catcher spot. We talked about that last time. 407 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: Andrew was on with the Adley versus rem Ute. Franchi 408 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: had a homer. William Contres had a homer. Corey Seger 409 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: did not, but he went two for four, two RBIs 410 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: and three runs. Anybody up on this list jump out 411 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: to you and their performances lately, Low, Renfro. There's a 412 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: couple lesser own guys. Franchie Cordero is kind of interesting, 413 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: probably not as owned in as many leagues as we think. 414 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, I think with Low it's 415 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 3: just he's one of these guys that kind of flies 416 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 3: under the radar a little bit. He doesn't really excel 417 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 3: in any one statistical category or anything like that. He's 418 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 3: just the classic guy that chips away and gives you 419 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: solid numbers everywhere. His batting average is up to two 420 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 3: ninety five now and he's got twenty home runs decent 421 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 3: run in RBI production, So even though he's not doing 422 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 3: stolen bases like, he's just a really solid across the 423 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 3: board provider of fantasy goodness. 424 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: Cole Irvin was a monster yesterday. Went seven, give up, 425 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: three hits, struck out eleven. What a performance. What a 426 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: back half of the year I've had. I have him 427 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: on a couple squads, just holding up the rotation when 428 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: anything goes wrong. Kyle right At eight strikeouts and seven 429 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: Framber seven with eight k's Shane McClanahan nine strikeouts, six innings, 430 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: Cal Quantrell seven with six strikeouts, five hits and a walk. 431 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: Have I Someone was asking me this last night, do 432 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: you how much Dynasty like ranking do you do? 433 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 3: Andrew not a ton, but I you know I do 434 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 3: play in such formats, So I'm always thinking about it from. 435 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: A value perspective, is where's McClanahan as like a Dynasty 436 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: sp for you think of age and everything like that? 437 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 2: Is a one two three further down, you know. 438 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: You probably have guys like obviously Corbyn Burns is gonna 439 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: be on that list, Sandy al Contra, I don't Dylan cease, 440 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: and then after that, like you can't really put like 441 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna put Verlander to Grom maybe Cole, Like, where 442 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: do you think he sits on a dynasty sp rank? 443 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 3: I think he needs to be pretty high up. I 444 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 3: know he's gone through a little bit of a rough 445 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 3: stretch recently, but you still look at his numbers for 446 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 3: the season and they're phenomenal. I mean, walk right under 447 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 3: two k per nine over eleven two twenty era great 448 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 3: pitches in a great pitchers park. He's twenty five years old, 449 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: so just really entering the prime of his career, so 450 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 3: he's he'd be right up at the top for me, 451 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 3: I will say that depending on your format, you know, 452 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 3: I I don't worry about age as much for pictures 453 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 3: as I do for hitters when it comes to keeper 454 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 3: and dynasty value, because you just don't know the longevity 455 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 3: of pitchers careers. I mean, we've seen a lot of 456 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 3: these guys flame out early, and then we see guys 457 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 3: like Schuzer that just keep going strong in Verlander that 458 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 3: go strong to the very end of their career, you know, 459 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 3: so who bump. 460 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 2: In your mind? 461 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 1: Like I feel like that you're making a case for 462 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: like Garrett Cole potentially being still at the top. Like 463 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: I just I still don't see how you could. Like 464 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: I actually rank like the sus and Deo Gram's like 465 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: a little bit high in Dynasty, but they're still they're 466 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: not like remotely close to SP five or anything like that. 467 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 3: Oh, I agree, I'm saying that, like just generally speaking, 468 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 3: like I just don't factor in age quite as much 469 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: for pictures as I do for hitters when I'm comparing 470 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 3: different players. 471 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that, and I think you're right 472 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: about that, Like I think, you know what a hitter 473 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: declines at thirty one, is a pitcher declining at thirty 474 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: seven or something like that. 475 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, And imagine if you sold Verlander like when he 476 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 3: was thirty three or something like that, you know, I mean, 477 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 3: I know he just missed the entire season, but like 478 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 3: you would have missed a lot of good seasons. 479 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 4: Out of him. 480 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. 481 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: On your stat zero's to Oskar Hernandez good old oh 482 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: for four with four straight k's your three strikeouts and 483 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: fors Rowdy telez was ozh for five with three strikeouts, 484 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: Atanio for four with three, Evan Longoria three ks, Brian Anderson, 485 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: Nolan Gormant, and Jose Miranda all big three strikeout performances, 486 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: if you want to call them performances on. 487 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 2: The picture side. 488 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: Jose Arena, who what do we need like? Three strikeouts 489 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: on the prop he got one walk, three, gave up 490 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: nine hits, nine in runs, did not get out of 491 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: the second inning. TJ Zetsch two two thirds. Feel like 492 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: he's on this every time he pitches. Six earned runs, 493 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: seven hits. Blake Snell didn't get to the fourth, gave 494 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: up six earned runs, four walks, no k's, oh myn 495 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: and Adrian Hauser two and one third, five earned runs, 496 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: four walks, four k's, no point, no Logan Web as well, 497 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: four and two thirds, six earned runs, six strikeouts. The 498 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: home run calls yesterday, Wonkey gave us the respect your 499 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: elders bonus. You just got to pick somebody who's over 500 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: thirty two to hit a homer, and it looks like 501 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: we got one waking life called Austin Barnes, who uh 502 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: thirty two years old? They hit a homer and they 503 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: got a bonus, but the overall board did not change 504 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: at all. High Cove You is still at forty six, 505 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: de Blum is at forty five, Go Cards at forty three, 506 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: Mayor and Terry at forty two, and cat Fox at 507 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: forty one. Still six people with forty or plus homers. 508 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: It is anybody's race because none of the bonus has helped. 509 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: Two others call okay, so that two others called out 510 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: two A two, So they were a couple you were, 511 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: I think you Wonky was just giving me a note 512 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: of like someone called Austin Barnes and that was incredible, 513 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: So good for them. 514 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 2: I like it. 515 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: Over on the betting, oh, you know what, I was 516 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: going to open up a brand new one. 517 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 2: Should I open up one real quick? Let's do this. 518 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 2: Bear with me. Were you here for the Andrew? 519 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: Were you here for the the tiaras? 520 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 4: I was there when you put on the tarra? Yeah, 521 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 4: all right, we have. 522 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: A brand new game used tiara right here. If you 523 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: guys are watching, we're wearing blue. Oh this one works 524 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: really well for me. This is a good look for 525 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: me actually, because we want you to go make some bets. 526 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: Over at bet MGM use the promo code leading off, 527 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: and you guys are gonna get hooked up today. 528 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 2: Thousand dollars risk free. 529 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: First bet, go and sign up, use your app, go 530 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: on the website. 531 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: Do whatever you gotta do. 532 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: Kings and queens, princesses and kings, whatever you wear, whether 533 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: it's a crown or tiara, they got you hooked up. 534 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 1: We've got a nice new game used here. There you go, 535 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: my friends. I've got some bets for you, the top 536 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: total base play, the top money play, and then I've 537 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: also got the other side of those. Oh you know 538 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,239 Speaker 1: what I screwed up on the hitting side, Well, I'm 539 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: gonna give you. Let me see if I remember it. 540 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: I do remember the other one. So the top play 541 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: for the day for total bases on bettingpros dot Com 542 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: mlbprop cheat sheet is Kyle Stowers rookie Baltimore needs one 543 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: hit against the White Sox. The juice isn't horrific. It's 544 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: at minus one forty five. This is on DraftKings. He's 545 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: projected almost. 546 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: Two and a half. So there you go. 547 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: The top plus money play. I copied it wrong, but 548 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: I remember it was Jordan Alvarez who is at one 549 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: and a half and it was plus one ten, I 550 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: want to say, and I think that was over at Sugarhouse. 551 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: So Stowers is your top play. Jordan is your top 552 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: Jordan is your top plus play on the pitching side. 553 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: Drew Rasmussen against the Angels. He is the top strikeout 554 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: play of all of them. And it's under six and 555 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: a half strikeout, so you got to get under six. 556 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: They're projecting only five. It's juice at one thirty nine. 557 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: And then your top plus play is Louis Garcia against Minnesota. 558 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: The strikeouts are five and a half and it is 559 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: plus one ten. 560 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 2: He's projected at six. 561 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: So Andrew, you've got Louis Garcia, Drew Rasmussen, Jordan, and 562 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: Kyle Stowers. 563 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: What do you like out of this? 564 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 3: I mean the Jordon one seems like pretty easy to me. 565 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: I mean, that wasn't a huge number against him. 566 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: To day, I had a little hit prop three parlay 567 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: because they had a boost on DraftKings and I played it. 568 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: I played Jordan is one of the three, and I hit, 569 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: So I had Gallon, Mullins. 570 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 2: And him, and that was a nice little payday. 571 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: He had one hit the other day, a double last 572 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: night I didn't interrupt to you. But his family's in town. 573 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: So it's one of those things where it's like you 574 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: use stupid logic to be like his family for the 575 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: first time ever is watching him play from Cuba in 576 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: a major league stadium. You want to think he's gonna 577 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: show up and he had a double yesterday. 578 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 3: Cool, Well, my logic says that he's a complete masher, 579 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 3: so give me, give me. 580 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 2: Him, So you like that when any of the others 581 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 2: are Now. 582 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 4: I'm not going on that ras muse in one. 583 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 3: I mean, he's he's exceeded seven k's and at least 584 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 3: his last two starts, so he's missing a lot of 585 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 3: bats right now. 586 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 4: So would I wouldn't want to bet the under on 587 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 4: sex right now with him? 588 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 2: You know, I will tell you. 589 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: I think they're all getting really tough. All the numbers 590 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: are gonna be in tough. But I do feel like 591 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: betting pros. The unders have been hitting a little bit 592 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: more so, just to monitor that a lot of the overs, 593 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: especially their top plays the algorithm. I don't know if 594 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: it's quite catching up and they're struggling a little bit, 595 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: but the unders might be so not that I'm interested 596 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: in making that bet with Rasmussen, but I. 597 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 2: Want to monitor it. I do want to monitor that one. 598 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: Over on the DFS side, you've got only two teams 599 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: today projected with five or more total team runs, and 600 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: that's Philly in Toronto. If you want to play any 601 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: stacks on the pitching side, a bunch of high priced 602 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: guys on FanDuel de Grom was at twelve five, Gosman 603 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: is at ten to five, and Aaron Nola was at 604 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: ten eight. I kind of like Nola think the matchup 605 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: is the best if you're going to pay those high dollars. 606 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: I mean, de Gram is to Gram. But like I said, 607 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: if you want to go on the DFS side for 608 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: Philly Toronto lineup stacks, I mean I like Schwarber today. 609 00:26:58,359 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: I think there's a bunch you can play into, and 610 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 2: there's some. 611 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: Other high end, you know, bad matchups that you can exploit. 612 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: But there's some pitching, there's some hitting, and that actually 613 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: takes us to the home run board here, Andrew, what 614 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: are you going. 615 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 2: To do today? There's no extra bonuses? What do you got? 616 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 3: I'm going back to the Paul goldmiitt. Well, it didn't 617 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 3: work for me last time, but I got a good feeling. 618 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 3: This time he's facing Marcus Stroman. He's hit three bombs 619 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 3: in thirteen at bats against Roman over his career for 620 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 3: sixty two batting average. Couple you know, a double in 621 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 3: there as well. So he's been making a lot of 622 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 3: hard contact over his career against Marcus Stroman. And of 623 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 3: course he's having a turned back the clock kind of season. 624 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 3: So I'm going to keep riding the gold Smith train. 625 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: Looks like Wonky has got fran mil and I'm gonna 626 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: go with Schwarbs. 627 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Swarbs. 628 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: Against the high era of Justin Dunn. 629 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 2: That is what I like. 630 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: And positive Grouch wants us to know that they called 631 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: alaseel tuve so I incorrectly said that there were no 632 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: other old man Homers, but there were. 633 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 2: There was al two veg. 634 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 1: In them, friendos, That is it. I didn't realize I've 635 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: been wearing this the whole time. 636 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: At least keep it on. I usually take the front. 637 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: Gonna start coughing. That was good stuff. 638 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: As you can tell, I'm still recovering a little bit. 639 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm feeling a lot better though, So thank you guys 640 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: for hanging out. Thank you guys for choosing us over 641 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: that turncoat rat Joe Piezapia, who is doing live stream 642 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: football on the other side while we sit here and 643 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: still burn through what Okay, I was in sure if 644 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: doctor Glenn was here. So doctor Glenn, I didn't get 645 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: out of the fifth Okay, I don't understand the logic 646 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: nowhere and runs. I walked three and I didn't strike 647 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: anybody out. So doctor Glenn is saying this is a 648 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: bad performance by me today. So apologies that it was 649 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: a bad performance. 650 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 2: I don't think. 651 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 1: I kind of disagree with the manager here on the 652 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: stat call. I think I got some rough lines here. 653 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: I don't think it was great, but I do think 654 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: I had a couple of strikeouts one hundred and ten pitches. 655 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: I went deep. 656 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, doctor Glenn, and thank you Brian. I am 657 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: grinding and should be a lot better next week. Friends, 658 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: That is it. Chris Cleig is gonna be with us tomorrow. 659 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: Andrew you're gonna be back on Monday. Correct, that's right, Boom, 660 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: that's all we got. Good luck in all your matchups. 661 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: You know we're to find us right here on Fantasy Pros. 662 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: We out to hear my friends, please Yah