WEBVTT - How the Defense Can Get Better NOW, Recapping the Bears Loss, and Pumpkin vs Potato!!! | Command Center Podcast | Washington Commanders 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:06.080 Pumpkin or sweet potato? Are these takes that have been 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:08.560 circulating around this team and around this game? Do they 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:11.959 have substance? Are they sweet potato or are they pumpkin? 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:14.640 Which means they got nothing nothing right? And that leads 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.759 us nicely into Farmer Fred in the pie bake off 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:18.640 of the Century. 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:21.480 Fred, you baked what purpose sweet potato? Pot baby? 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:23.160 That's on this episode? Make sure you check it out. 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:32.360 Welcome into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:35.320 with Santana Moss who is in a kind of a 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:38.120 subdued fit today but still looking good. And then Fred smooth, 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:40.280 how are you doing? You got iron kept an America shirt? 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:41.880 I'm most definitely I'm a Marvel guy. You know that 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:44.960 I'm most definitely. I love comic books. 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:47.920 Do you have a favorite Marvel? Who'd you say last week? 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:50.199 Pool is your favorite guy? 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:51.000 I actually called him. 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:53.400 If I was Ado, I would be Fred Pool, Like 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:56.160 that would be my name, most definitely because he's funny, 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:59.320 Well because he gonna he gonna say people whow cracking 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:02.640 jokes and how would probably be like that would be 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:04.160 me totally. 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:06.720 I would do it. And I blurred the line between 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.440 good guy and bad guys, so I'll be anti. So 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:10.200 that's why I. 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:12.880 Think it is Antenna. You're a big movie guy. Are 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:15.640 you a Marvel movie guy? I watched them all. Yeah, 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:18.000 I watch everything. But you don't, like, you're not super 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:19.640 pumped on the Marvel. You were like, that's the least 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:20.680 pumped I've seen you about. 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:27.080 It because it's like real like, but that's why you 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:29.319 get lost love it, because it's not love it when 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:31.160 it comes to just you know, when they bring film 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:32.800 out the film at the film but you watch it 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:36.039 sometime you get blown away like, Okay, none of this. 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:37.280 Don't really happen. 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:41.240 But like you know with like I don't know, like 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.400 Armageddon or something like that. You know, like that's not 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:44.440 really gonna happen either. 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.240 No, But I just love movies. I love anything that's 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:48.880 have a great storyline, you know what I mean? 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.000 So what's your what's your movie you're watching right now? 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.400 Oh? Man, the last movie I watched? Let me see 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:55.120 last show I. 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:56.600 Watchcause you were talking about something recently. 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.480 Shot I watched No shot calls a great Yeah, it 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:01.760 happened that recently. But I was just telling you look 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:03.040 like the guy when he got. 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.600 His when I painted his face, paint his face with. 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:07.400 The tattoos and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.360 Great opera. Himan was the last one I watched. 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:10.959 Oh was that good? 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:11.960 So good? 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:15.200 It was so good, so thrilling. 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:18.359 And come on, man, if you the man that designed 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:22.639 the Man, the whipping of man, the ultimate whapon of 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:27.080 mass destruction, his consciousness eating it's just eating them apart. 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:28.760 Yeah, if you heard that quote that he gave, I'm 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:30.240 gonna butcher it. But it's like, you know, I am 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:31.200 the harbinger of death. 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:32.560 Yes, most definitely. 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.520 Dude, that's got to be such a crazy I haven't 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:37.040 seen the movie yet, but I'm just like just. 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.040 That been at the nuclear bomb. 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:44.920 So he feels like he is the person that destroyed 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:46.760 the world. Like he feel like, if the world ever 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:47.919 get destroyed, he's the reason. 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:50.320 You imagine, just like like your life's work and that's 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:51.560 the thing that comes out of it. 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:55.320 So smart, so dedicated. But then you created yeah, the 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:56.160 ultimate but. 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:58.360 Obviously you give like nuclear energy is a big like 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:00.960 positive byproduct of that. But it's like, oh, man, that's 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:01.359 gotta be. 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:05.400 Who wants to be the person behind destroying the world. 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:07.840 But I mean, like I think because that's where like 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:11.880 he's he's promoting good science. He's promoting but it just 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:12.520 show you some. 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:13.680 People in this world. 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.200 No, it ain't even up. It's just like you got 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.000 a gift in a curse like this. 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:21.600 The thing that's the gift of being gifted is it 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:22.200 can't become. 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:23.799 But he could put that to better use, you know 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:26.840 what I'm saying, Like you gifted, Well he did think 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:27.160 about it. 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:31.360 We got nuclear like energy energy coming from So it 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:34.119 wasn't all bad. It's just you know, just a situation. 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:38.120 What is so speaking of all bad and all good. Yeah, 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:39.960 we gott to talk about the Bears game, and I 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:41.200 know we don't really want to talk. 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:46.040 It wasn't that was Openheimer infants. 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.600 Yeah it was. It wasn't great. But what I do 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:50.240 think comes out of a game like this is there's 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.360 a lot of kind of like hot takes right, Like 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:56.040 a lot of really people being you know, super negative 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:59.560 or super positive, and the games aren't. It's not like 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:01.600 that when you're when you're playing the NFL, when you're 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:03.280 on a team, like we've all been a part of 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:07.480 bad losses right there, and there's a it just happens sometimes. 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:09.600 And so what we're gonna do is we're gonna take 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.480 a we're gonna play a game, and it's called Pumpkin 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:18.920 because why friend, it's useless anywhere on Earth. I don't 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.280 totally agree with that assessment. But for this game, pumpkin 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:24.520 means it's a it's an empty take. There's no nutrients, 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:28.919 so substance behind it. Or sweet potato, sweet potatoes, full. 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:35.240 Of substance, full of life. It is totally different, A 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:36.719 full of life. 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:38.960 And I guess the important thing to note here is 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:42.160 we're not saying fans can't be upset, because you can 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:43.159 be upset. We're upset. 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:45.640 We're just emotionally attached to the game. 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.040 Absolutely, But we are trying to give like some good 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:51.520 detailed analysis here and say, like, sometimes people are just 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.520 saying stuff and they have no understanding of what's actually 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:56.720 going on. So let's talk about this first one. I 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:58.880 think this is the first one that really kind of 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:02.599 encapsulates this. So I hear fans say this all the time. 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:04.800 Go to the grocery store, people say, hey, you know, Logan, 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:06.320 what you think of the game, And they say, all, 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:08.400 I think you know that. The fans say, I don't 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:10.480 think they wanted it enough. I don't think they want it. 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:11.120 It's so funny. 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.000 I can talked to it the grocer store all the time, 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:14.839 like people be like, what happened? 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:18.839 What did you what you want me to do? We 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:20.839 investable out, No, don't do that to me. 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:26.360 So don't didn't want it enough? Is that a pumpkin 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.359 or potato? Take? And I'd like to get your reasoning 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.280 as to why pumpkin pumpkin? 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:35.880 Because these are the one percent alf of males in 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:37.680 the world losing. 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:39.039 Option all right. 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:41.440 We don't like to lose. We don't ever want to 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:44.000 go out in the place and be dominated a right, 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:48.760 So it's most definitely empty catteries. There's nothing there these guys, 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:50.760 if it was up to them, they'll go sim teaming 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:54.080 up like this how they feel, all right, So they'll 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.200 never show up on the field and not want. 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:56.480 To win a game. 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.080 That's I totally agree. I mean, I mean, how do 0:05:58.080 --> 0:05:58.479 you feel too? 0:05:58.520 --> 0:05:59.159 I agree with it too. 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:00.960 I also just think know when it comes down to 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:03.800 when a fan or whoever may say they didn't want 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.719 it enough, it's all about just the energy that you 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.880 showed that show that. It's not necessarily saying that didn't 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.360 want it. But as a player, if you show that 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.320 kind of effort, then that leads up to that kind 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:17.560 of conversation. You didn't You didn't want it because you 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:20.039 came out there flat. You know, you hear these guys saying, yeah, 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:21.800 we was flat. But why you know what I mean, 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.800 you understood that the guys they were the guys said, hey, 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:25.559 you know, we was flat. 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:26.520 It was a short week. 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:29.599 I think that fifth quarter, the fifth quarter in field 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.839 of death, you meant more then people think it meant. 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.840 So now that goes back to ship run have went 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:36.200 for two? 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.640 You don't know until you know, like you do that 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:42.560 If you don't. 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:46.240 Yeah, but I do think. You know, guys wanted they 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.960 want to win the game, whatever your option. 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:52.320 You want to win one only one. One goal we 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:54.760 all come come here to play this game is to 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.080 be winners. We don't come here to say, okay, man, 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:57.640 hey I want to. 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.360 And I don't work Monday through Friday to just sit 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:03.920 here and not try to win the game. 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:05.040 Like at the end of the day, what. 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:08.240 People need to understand is what we do every week, 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:11.000 every day. The time we put into this game. 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.240 Is a piece of us. We leave a piece of 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:14.280 us every time we come. 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:16.480 I think about it, It's like when I was playing, 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.480 and this is maybe just my personal experience, my identity 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:21.760 was being tied to being a football player and a 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.240 good football Yeah, you know, like I want to go 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:26.640 out there and beat the man across from me, Like 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:28.240 that's what it is. I'm not always going to do it, 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.040 but my goal, my prep, the countless hours, it all 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:32.960 goes into that. So I don't think anyone goes out 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:34.040 there and says, man, you know what I want to 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:35.720 do this week. I want to get blown out. 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:36.520 But I want to lose. 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:37.480 Now. 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:40.080 I will say this player too, as a football player, 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.840 because you know, everything that we do is predicated on 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:44.400 how the team. 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:46.920 Yeah you know what I mean. We can't you can. 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:49.360 You can, you can be flawless, you can have no 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.280 no catches caught on you, no touchdowns, and we lose 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.240 and we like Fred didn't have a good talk. You 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:56.800 go out there and watch the femily like, well damn 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:57.520 Fred showed up. 0:07:58.360 --> 0:07:58.520 Yeah. 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.440 Yeah, if you're on a team where you used to 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:04.480 having those kind of outputs from your team, but you're 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:06.520 you're the stud, You're the guy that's always showing up, 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:08.560 then you kind of get lost in that. 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:10.640 Hey, you get as long as I handle my business, 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:11.880 but that's not. 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:13.760 No one goals just to be like, I'm going to 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:16.240 do my job and we went on and lose. You 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:19.640 have to sometime we live up to that because you're like, 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:21.800 because I've been on those teams before, you've been on 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:23.440 those teams if you were, Look, I got to go 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:25.600 out here and shine regardless because we don't know. We 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.720 can't dictate what happens when that score. 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:32.640 I think people forget that we are independent contractors. We 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:36.160 independent contractors, but we're also a team and that's the 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:38.960 difference in it. And we win and we lose together, 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:42.280 so therefore it don't matter. Like you just said, we're 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:42.960 grouped together. 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.520 We lost. We all stuck like we balled out. 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:48.400 Some guys go out there and stink it up on 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.040 the games that we balled out. They get just as 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.720 much love as the rest of us for that game. 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:57.080 So it's just one of those things where fans please understand, 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:59.080 we won't win every week. 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:00.680 And to that point, I don't think that's necessarily a 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:02.520 bad thing. I think if you go out there and 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.720 are trying to win your individual matchup, like that's good 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:07.600 for the team. It's good for you and it's good 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:09.200 for the team. So I think fans say, oh, you know, 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:12.040 like that guy cares about himself. Like no, like if 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:15.040 he's playing his best football, he cares about everyone, cares 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:15.600 about everybody. 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:17.319 It takes eleven of us to go out there and 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:21.080 get the job accomplished on on both sides phases. Yeah, 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.880 but if you're that guy that's just continuously putting that 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:28.080 effort above everybody else, it's. 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.040 Going to stand out. So it's like Chase, we need 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:33.600 everybody to be having that same kind of energy, you understand. 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.600 He's like Chase, Like Chase Young probably had the best 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:38.719 game of his career against Chicago, right, Yeah, he had. 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.240 I think he had fifty percent pressure rate and so on. 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:44.600 Every pastor said he was in he won half the time. Yeah, 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:46.600 and that kind of gets lost in the sauce here. 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:50.040 But if everybody plays like that, yeah, you win, you win. 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:52.679 You're gonna win the game. You have to do it. 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:53.440 It's a union. 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:57.600 You have to be organically put together that you play 0:09:57.679 --> 0:09:59.440 off each other. And that's why I think we fail 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.520 in it right now, Like we have these individual bursts. 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:06.080 Everybody's starts to make these plays, but I haven't seen 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.080 us play that total game. 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.200 Like prime example. I don't want to cut y'all. Want 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.720 to get this in before we move on. As a receiver, 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.480 you can win. You can win every rep. You can 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:17.439 go out there. And I used to go home and 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:19.240 get in the car. My homeboys, they sit right in 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.040 the stands. You know them, Well, Tanner, I got you. 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:26.079 I'm recording this like you're beating your guy the quarterback. 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:30.960 Matter ain't done nothing. Like you look at the stat sheet, Tanna, 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:32.200 you ain't do nothing. You ain't show up. 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:33.840 It's three weeks now, you ain't show up. It's not 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:37.559 my fault getting the ball. So it's a team effort. 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:39.079 And that's why at the end of the day when 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.880 it all balls down, you look at it and say, well, 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:42.720 you didn't do anything. 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:44.760 Whether you did something or not, we didn't win. 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:46.520 Yeah, And that's what it's about. 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:48.679 So I think I think just saying they don't want it, 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:49.880 it's kind of lazy. 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:51.560 It's lazy. 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:55.760 You're understanding. You don't understand the guys. He the players, 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.280 be the coaches, like they all want to win, like 0:10:58.400 --> 0:10:59.840 they want to win this game. It's not because they 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:01.679 don't want it enough, they're putting time in, they're getting 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:02.079 after it. 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:02.520 This one. 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.360 I think it's kind of interesting. And I think so 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:08.200 the short week when someone says it's a short week, 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:12.400 is that a pumpkin take? Or is that a sweet potato? 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:16.200 No, that's this sweet potato. Because but I watched team 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:20.800 play bad Thursday night football. Ah, I watched guys play 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.960 Thursday night football all year and all of it is 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:27.520 bad football. And you talk about playing on a Sunday, 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:32.400 we played five quarters. You come and Monday ain't off. 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.640 You got a half day Monday, you come back Tuesday, Wednesday. 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:37.640 What you walk through I mean? 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:41.240 And then Thursday you're playing, like, come on, man, it's 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:44.960 a lot of the human body. And I think because 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:46.640 we play the game the way we play it, and 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.439 we so free spirited and wild doing it that people 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:51.880 think we could do it every other day, you cannot. 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:55.120 It's a reason why it's only seventeen games in the season. 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:57.440 It's a reason I didn't care about the Thursday because 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:00.640 I knew I had the people that to repair everything 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.600 that I lost or left on the field. 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.480 Everybody don't have that. Chicago had it. I don't know 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:07.080 what what I don't know what they had, they did 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:07.559 something they. 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:09.079 Got doctor doctor Wilson. 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:10.880 It was a different it was a different type of 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:13.320 energy with them because they just knew Man. Everything relied 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.960 on that game they was on for and they had 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:16.480 nothing to lose. 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:18.800 They had lost fourteenth straight. Like you don't want to 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:20.040 fight the wounded animal. 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.400 I say, I would say for us it was kind 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:24.480 of a gift and a curse for us to play 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:28.080 us was we did in Philly because those guys kind 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:30.720 of got you know happy, they kind of was satisfied 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.440 with what they did and allowed. And I'm not saying 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:35.240 this is this is really this is just my opinion. 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.200 They allowed that to trinkle over into the next week. 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:41.360 And when you watch them practice a little bit, you 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.160 watched a couple of the you know they was happy 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:43.760 they was out there. 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:45.120 Okay, we don't have to This is why I don't 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:45.400 believe it. 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:48.640 More of why that word we used to hate when 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:50.680 Coach Gibbs made us put on pass and made us 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:52.520 hit if they after you know what I mean, We 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:54.199 used to hate it. But now I look at them 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:56.760 like certain guys need that You need to understand, this 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.920 is not a what you call a country clubs come 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:01.839 out here and baby you, Yeah, we're gonna push it 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:05.240 through rigorous times, hard times. So come Thursday or come 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.840 Sunday or come Monday, when it gets hard, it's gonna 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:09.760 always feel the same, you know what I mean. And 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.520 I just feel like, to the fans credit when they 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:14.360 say they didn't want it enough, that's what they saw. 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.760 They saw a team came out saying that we're gonna 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.880 we can be ourselves and skate through this game and 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:21.760 still get it done, and that didn't happen. 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:23.400 So yeah, I would just add a little bit more 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:25.480 analysis to the short week. So one, I think the 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:27.320 level of opponent was a big deal. I think playing 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.000 Philadelphia division rival is a big deal. I think the 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:33.320 physicality of that Eagles offensive line and defensive line is 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.880 something that can't really be measured, but it definitely shows up. 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:39.160 Like last you know, last season, they had the opponents 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:43.000 following Philly games were like eighty percent losing. You know 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:44.520 what I'm saying. They lost eighty percent of the time. 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:46.160 It was a big statistical number. And I think there 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.319 is an element to that physicality of it. You can 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.320 be that the emotional high The other thing I think, 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:52.560 you know, all short weeks aren't created equal. We had 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:54.960 to travel to Philly, so they had to get on 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:56.400 a plane to go up there. They'd got enough plane 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:59.559 to come back, and that does stunt your recovery. Getting 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.120 on that play is not great for recovery. And Chicago 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:03.960 played at home last week against a team that's not 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.959 quite as good as the Philadelphia Eagles, So I think 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.640 all that matters the fifth quarter. I think that's another 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:14.319 huge variable, just prolonging that game, prolonging the emotional kind 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:17.840 of adrenal high of the game. So it's not all 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.440 the same, and it's again it's not an excuse, but 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.440 I think adding a little bit of context is super 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:26.720 important because in addition to it being a short week, 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:29.840 the defensive line is playing about fifteen percent more per 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:32.640 game this season than they were last season, So that 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:34.400 is going to have a way of effect. And you 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:37.400 can tell guys are a little bit. You know, anybody 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:38.920 on the defense that I thought played well, I thought 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.600 the defensive line played well, Like Montees had a good game, 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:43.560 Chase had a good game, Pain had a good game, 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:45.520 Allen was a little bit kind of in the middle. 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.240 But what I will say is you could see at 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:50.440 times tired. 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:52.800 They were gassed. Yeah, they would, let's be honest. 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.000 And I think it's not just the short week. It's 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:57.280 the short week in conjunction with the travel, in conjunction 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:00.760 with the extra quarter, in conjunction with playing over the 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:02.680 four over the first five games of the season. 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:04.960 And then one thing you can say too from last year, 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.680 just what stands out to me is the one thing 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:09.800 that we did well on defense last year was getting 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:10.560 off the field. 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:13.200 On third down. Yeah, we're not at the percentage rate. 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:15.000 I don't know it. I don't know about it. I'm 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:18.360 pretty sure you good with those numbers. It's glaring different. No, no, 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:19.480 it's terrible. 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:23.560 And the thing is, anytime we're playing double digit drives 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:27.720 meaning ten plays, eleven plays, twelve plays, it don't work 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:28.280 well for us. 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:30.960 Like on defense, it wears us down. 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:33.640 And that when we start to mistackles, this when we 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:35.680 start to not be in the gaps. This is when 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.320 we start to not communicate. This when we get in 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.560 self survival mode. And when anytime defense is in self 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.720 survival mode, we're not working together. We're gonna get butchered 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:45.760 just the way it goes. 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.120 Yeah, no, I agree with that, and I think The 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:50.400 other thing is that the offense didn't play very well. 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.080 I think they went three and out the first two drives. Yeah, 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.360 that just being an offensive player sitting in those meetings 0:15:56.440 --> 0:16:00.520 with Kyle, with Jay, with Sean talking through that is 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:03.280 tough on the defense when that's happening, Right, You're adding 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.720 a level of fatigue to a group that's already fatigued 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:08.240 if they're struggling, and we can kind of settle down 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:11.000 going a nice eight, nine, ten play drive even if 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.400 we don't score. Yeah, you just let everybody kind of 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:16.480 settle in. That's a huge deal. And then the defense 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:18.280 didn't get that, you know, And so I think there's 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:20.640 there's a there's a multitude of things happening. 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:22.960 Logan, you brought some up right there and did what 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.600