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Speaker 1: Which means they got nothing nothing right? And that leads

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Speaker 1: of the Century.

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Speaker 2: Fred, you baked what purpose sweet potato? Pot baby?

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Speaker 1: That's on this episode? Make sure you check it out.

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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here

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Speaker 1: with Santana Moss who is in a kind of a

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Speaker 1: subdued fit today but still looking good. And then Fred smooth,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing? You got iron kept an America shirt?

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Speaker 3: I'm most definitely I'm a Marvel guy. You know that

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Speaker 3: I'm most definitely. I love comic books.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite Marvel? Who'd you say last week?

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Speaker 1: Pool is your favorite guy?

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Speaker 4: I actually called him.

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Speaker 3: If I was Ado, I would be Fred Pool, Like

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Speaker 3: that would be my name, most definitely because he's funny,

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Speaker 3: Well because he gonna he gonna say people whow cracking

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Speaker 2: I would do it. And I blurred the line between

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Speaker 1: Think it is Antenna. You're a big movie guy. Are

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Speaker 1: you a Marvel movie guy? I watched them all. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I watch everything. But you don't, like, you're not super

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Speaker 5: It because it's like real like, but that's why you

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Speaker 5: get lost love it, because it's not love it when

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Speaker 5: it comes to just you know, when they bring film

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Speaker 5: sometime you get blown away like, Okay, none of this.

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Speaker 4: Don't really happen.

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Speaker 1: But like you know with like I don't know, like

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Speaker 5: No, But I just love movies. I love anything that's

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Speaker 1: So what's your what's your movie you're watching right now?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Man, the last movie I watched? Let me see

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Speaker 5: Shot I watched No shot calls a great Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: Great opera. Himan was the last one I watched.

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Speaker 1: Oh was that good?

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Speaker 3: And come on, man, if you the man that designed

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you heard that quote that he gave, I'm

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Speaker 2: It wasn't that was Openheimer infants.

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Speaker 3: Of substance, full of life. It is totally different, A

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Speaker 3: I can talked to it the grocer store all the time,

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Speaker 2: What did you what you want me to do? We

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Speaker 1: So don't didn't want it enough? Is that a pumpkin

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Speaker 3: Because these are the one percent alf of males in

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Speaker 3: We don't like to lose. We don't ever want to

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Speaker 3: So it's most definitely empty catteries. There's nothing there these guys,

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Speaker 3: if it was up to them, they'll go sim teaming

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Speaker 4: To win a game.

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Speaker 4: So now that goes back to ship run have went

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Speaker 2: You don't know until you know, like you do that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I do think. You know, guys wanted they

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Speaker 5: You want to win one only one. One goal we

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Speaker 3: And I don't work Monday through Friday to just sit

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Speaker 2: Like at the end of the day, what.

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Speaker 3: People need to understand is what we do every week,

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Speaker 5: I will say this player too, as a football player,

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Speaker 5: You can, you can be flawless, you can have no

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Speaker 5: and we like Fred didn't have a good talk. You

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Speaker 5: Fred showed up.

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Speaker 4: but that's not.

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Speaker 5: No one goals just to be like, I'm going to

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Speaker 5: because I've been on those teams before, you've been on

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Speaker 2: We lost. We all stuck like we balled out.

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Speaker 3: Some guys go out there and stink it up on

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Speaker 3: So it's just one of those things where fans please understand,

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Speaker 1: And to that point, I don't think that's necessarily a

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Speaker 1: He's like Chase, Like Chase Young probably had the best

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Speaker 1: I think he had fifty percent pressure rate and so on.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna win the game. You have to do it.

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Speaker 2: It's a union.

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Speaker 3: You have to be organically put together that you play

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Speaker 5: Like prime example. I don't want to cut y'all. Want

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Speaker 5: you can win. You can win every rep. You can

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Speaker 5: I'm recording this like you're beating your guy the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Matter ain't done nothing. Like you look at the stat sheet, Tanna,

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Speaker 5: It's three weeks now, you ain't show up. It's not

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Speaker 4: Whether you did something or not, we didn't win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's what it's about.

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Speaker 1: So I think I think just saying they don't want it,

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Speaker 1: You're understanding. You don't understand the guys. He the players,

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Speaker 4: This one.

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Speaker 1: I think it's kind of interesting. And I think so

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Speaker 3: No, that's this sweet potato. Because but I watched team

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Speaker 3: play bad Thursday night football. Ah, I watched guys play

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Speaker 3: we played five quarters. You come and Monday ain't off.

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Speaker 2: What you walk through I mean?

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Speaker 3: And then Thursday you're playing, like, come on, man, it's

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Speaker 3: It's a reason why it's only seventeen games in the season.

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Speaker 5: It's a reason I didn't care about the Thursday because

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Speaker 4: Everybody don't have that. Chicago had it. I don't know

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Speaker 5: It was a different it was a different type of

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Speaker 3: They had lost fourteenth straight. Like you don't want to

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Speaker 5: I say, I would say for us it was kind

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Speaker 5: us was we did in Philly because those guys kind

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Speaker 5: They allowed that to trinkle over into the next week.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we don't have to This is why I don't

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Speaker 5: More of why that word we used to hate when

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Speaker 5: Coach Gibbs made us put on pass and made us

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Speaker 5: like certain guys need that You need to understand, this

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Speaker 5: is not a what you call a country clubs come

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Speaker 5: out here and baby you, Yeah, we're gonna push it

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Speaker 5: through rigorous times, hard times. So come Thursday or come

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Speaker 5: I just feel like, to the fans credit when they

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Speaker 5: say they didn't want it enough, that's what they saw.

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Speaker 5: They saw a team came out saying that we're gonna

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I would just add a little bit more

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Speaker 1: Like last you know, last season, they had the opponents

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Speaker 1: you know, all short weeks aren't created equal. We had

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Speaker 1: But what I will say is you could see at

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Speaker 2: They were gassed. Yeah, they would, let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's not just the short week. It's

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Speaker 5: And then one thing you can say too from last year,

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Speaker 4: On third down. Yeah, we're not at the percentage rate.

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Speaker 3: And the thing is, anytime we're playing double digit drives

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Speaker 3: And that when we start to mistackles, this when we

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Speaker 3: self survival mode. And when anytime defense is in self

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree with that, and I think The

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Speaker 3: Logan, you brought some up right there and did what

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Speaker 3: So now you got two groups scruggling, two groups trying

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Speaker 2: So I think it's one of them things where it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, So I do think short week is a

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Speaker 1: And so I'll start this because I think I know

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Speaker 1: you said this on the show the other day on

443
00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,200
Speaker 1: the Command Center, this the Bears game is not reflective

444
00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:20,000
Speaker 1: of this team. The Philly the the the Bills game

445
00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,440
Speaker 1: are more reflective of what this defense can and it's

446
00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,000
Speaker 1: capable of doing. And this, to me is the outlier.

447
00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,480
Speaker 1: It's not the rules. So when they say defense is bad,

448
00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,160
Speaker 1: I think they didn't play well against the Bears.

449
00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, that day, that day, they was bad. I don't

450
00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,840
Speaker 5: think they bad as a whole. I mean, you hit

451
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Speaker 5: a spot right on the head. I mean, if you

452
00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,879
Speaker 5: look at certain things, what caused them to be you

453
00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,840
Speaker 5: know in those situations you spot on Philly, the explosives

454
00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,720
Speaker 5: killed us, killed them. And I mean just before the half,

455
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Speaker 5: I said that, me and me and be misters sitting

456
00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:54,600
Speaker 5: there and I'm they Devontae Smith quarter or didn't catch it.

457
00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,639
Speaker 1: It wasn't whatever it was they ball hit.

458
00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,280
Speaker 5: The ground, but those three points. I said, that's right, Doug,

459
00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,399
Speaker 5: gonna come back up what we lost the game by.

460
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Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying.

461
00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,119
Speaker 5: So like you have to look at certain situations and

462
00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:07,080
Speaker 5: what lead up to it.

463
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Speaker 4: That that Bears game. It was.

464
00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:10,600
Speaker 2: It was.

465
00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,720
Speaker 4: It was sitting right in front of our face.

466
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Speaker 5: The office wasn't on the feel long enough that defense

467
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,800
Speaker 5: kept coming back out there and they was hitting them

468
00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,240
Speaker 5: with daggers. It wasn't like no, just okay, we're gonna

469
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,919
Speaker 5: trinkle now. It was like boom, yeah, boom. So you know,

470
00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,600
Speaker 5: as a whole, I've seen this defense play better. You know,

471
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,520
Speaker 5: we've seen this defense play better. But I do I

472
00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:34,160
Speaker 5: truly believe whatever was going on Thursday week, that fifth

473
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Speaker 5: quarter and Philly, whatever it was, that's not who you

474
00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,240
Speaker 5: hang your hat on. So that's the team that we

475
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,920
Speaker 5: know they can be. That's not out team they're gonna

476
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:42,480
Speaker 5: be better than that.

477
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Speaker 2: Well, here go, I gotta keep it one hundred.

478
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Speaker 3: I'm going totally left from what y'all hear them think

479
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:48,680
Speaker 3: about it.

480
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,840
Speaker 2: The defense is not bad paying bad.

481
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Speaker 3: At the end of the day, if I told you

482
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Speaker 3: at the beginning of the year that Sam Howe a

483
00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,240
Speaker 3: week five was gonna have more passing yards than Patrick Mahomes,

484
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 3: more passing hall yours, Jalen Hurts more passing yards than

485
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, what would our record be. We would all

486
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 3: say four to one, five and oh something like. We

487
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 3: hung our hat on this defense. We said, this defense

488
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 3: is gonna be what makes this team go.

489
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 2: It's gonna do it. They haven't showed up.

490
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 3: And the thing that's making me so mad about it is,

491
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 3: I haven't seen them play as a unit.

492
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:23,880
Speaker 2: I've seen them.

493
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 3: Make plays individually. I've seen them like to come together

494
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 3: as a unit. That's the one thing I can say

495
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,119
Speaker 3: about the defenses I played with. We played together, all right.

496
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Speaker 3: We understood how to have each other back. We weren't

497
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,479
Speaker 3: leaving nobody hanging. It was eleven versus eleven, and we

498
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 3: understood that. I'm just saying, if we had to say

499
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Speaker 3: at the beginning of the year, with a new offensive

500
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 3: coordinator in a young quarterback who was gonna lead this team.

501
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,360
Speaker 3: It was the defense. Until this day, they hasn't. They

502
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 3: haven't stood up.

503
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,160
Speaker 2: This year right now and said we are who we are.

504
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Speaker 1: And I agree, like I agree with everything that tennis.

505
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 1: I agree with my thoughts obviously, but I also agree

506
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 1: with you, like there is a there. They are underperforming

507
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,400
Speaker 1: expectations while not being a bad group. I think they're

508
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 1: underperforming what we thought they would be, and I think

509
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,360
Speaker 1: that's tough. That's tough to negotiate that kind of that

510
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 1: gray area. But saying they're terrible, saying they're not good,

511
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 1: I think it's somewhat of a mischaracterization.

512
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,439
Speaker 2: Well, just the one thing about sports, we keep score.

513
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and right now the thirty, the thirtieth rank, thirty

514
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:27,679
Speaker 3: first ranked defense.

515
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 4: They haven't been.

516
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 3: Playing wheel and somebody got to hold him to a standard,

517
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,159
Speaker 3: like come on, dude, now, y'all got to show up.

518
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 1: But I also think again, like this is and we're

519
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 1: just talking shop here and I'm not again not making

520
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 1: excuses here. They've played good teams, the Bills, Eagles, good

521
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the elite, top quarterbacks in the league. And

522
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 1: when you play top quarterbacks. Like again, that's this is

523
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 1: something I think we I brought up in our analysis

524
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: this offseason. But when you're playing good quarterbacks and good offenses,

525
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 1: defenses just can't keep up. It's very rare that a

526
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 1: good defense can match a good quarterback. Like you can

527
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 1: see a good defense take care of the quarterback with

528
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 1: being you to his wheel one hundred percent. And so

529
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: that's kind of what I'm saying. It's like, you expect

530
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 1: there to be production from those offenses. Yeah, I think

531
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: the level of production is a little surprising. I go

532
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 1: back to the Bells game still, and because its probablycause

533
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: I'm an offensive player, the offense played so bad. I

534
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 1: can't I don't know how you expect the defense to

535
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 1: do anything.

536
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 2: But when you turn the ball all over four times,

537
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 2: you lose it five times.

538
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: They'll turn it over five times.

539
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, You're going to lose the game.

540
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 3: But at one point does the defense say, you know what,

541
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 3: we got your back. Because we knew y'all was going

542
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 3: to start off the little slow. You got a young quarterback,

543
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 3: We got this. We were supposed to be the big

544
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 3: brother yea and were supposed to protake the house.

545
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 5: I think the question was, or whatever the statement was,

546
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 5: is the defense is bad.

547
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 4: I don't. It still leads to them. They're not bad

548
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 4: as they look.

549
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 2: They're not good.

550
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 4: They haven't played. Yeah, they're not bad.

551
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 5: They just haven't got things together because like you can

552
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 5: see different different you know, I guess you can call

553
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 5: it groups playing well.

554
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 4: The back end. Has they been great? No, No, They've

555
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 4: probably been the reason why a lot of this stuff

556
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 4: in a situation.

557
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 5: But then you can say the front end hasn't gotten

558
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 5: to the quarterback and that might be the reason why

559
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 5: we haven't played.

560
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 4: So with all that being said, defensively.

561
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 5: As a coach, now the coach had to come in

562
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 5: and say, Okay, I want to do this, I want

563
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:13,719
Speaker 5: to do that.

564
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 4: I can't. I gotta switch it up. I gotta switch

565
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 4: it up.

566
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 5: I gotta I gotta protect them back in the back

567
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 5: end a little more, and I gotta let these.

568
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 4: Guys here play a different style of play. I thought

569
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 4: they can get to.

570
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 5: The quarterback a little better than that this year, and

571
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 5: it hasn't been getting done.

572
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 4: Now, I have to do a little more. That's all

573
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 4: you have to do. Make adjustments.

574
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think like that's something that you know,

575
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: like I coach high school football, you go in with

576
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 1: the season with like, this is what I think we're

577
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 1: good at, and you do the scrimmages, the practices, your

578
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: training camp, you're like, man, we're pretty good. That then

579
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 1: when you get into a game, we ain't good. It

580
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 1: doesn't work the same way, and so you got to

581
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: do a little bit of adjusting, like you know, like

582
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: they've made some of the decisions this offseason to be

583
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: a little bit more man heavy, obviously, Like in the

584
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: off season, I thought great Saint Juice good man coverage

585
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: Forbes good and man coverage, Fuller good man coverage, or

586
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: they've shown the ability to be good man coverage. Obviously

587
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: they need to kind of excited if they.

588
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 2: Play it enough. Like if you're gonna play man, play man.

589
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: But you can't play man now, Like right now they're

590
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: playing man like thirty four percent of the time, which

591
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: is like third in the NFL. Teams just don't play

592
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: man with that same level that you used that you

593
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 1: used to play because it's just not a tenable solution

594
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: long term.

595
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 5: You can't play man and be passive. Though you're gonna

596
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 5: play man, you gotta play man.

597
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 2: You got to you have.

598
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 4: To have to man.

599
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 2: Yes, you have to off man work.

600
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: I pushed back on that a little bit because I think,

601
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: like with with like no Tanne, like this is what

602
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: we're talking about. I think, like with off coverage, when

603
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: you got guys who can track the ball, like Forbes

604
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: as an example, Like I'd rather him be off because

605
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: he can see the quarterback. I want I want him

606
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: to see the quarterback.

607
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 3: I don't want him to see the quarterback because then

608
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 3: his eyes started playing tricks on him, and and I

609
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 3: want him to I don't want him to have to

610
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 3: check the whole route tree.

611
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,199
Speaker 2: When you play off man. The whole route tree is

612
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 2: open when you play.

613
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 1: When you play with good leverage.

614
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 2: I don't care about your leverage.

615
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 3: If you play press man, the rape tree shrinks to

616
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 3: two routes fade and they slink like them the only

617
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 3: routes you run it.

618
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 5: I'm a receiver, you're tight end. You mostly get guys

619
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 5: up in your faces. You're on the line half the

620
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 5: time as a receiver. If you had to ask me,

621
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 5: if the god planning you man, what you prefer off

622
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 5: or press, I would say off every test, because I

623
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 5: have all the routes to my hand every day. If

624
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 5: you press me, I have to release a certain weight.

625
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 5: I have to run this route a certain way. Everything

626
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 5: kind of counters now, Like if I had a post

627
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 5: corner on press, I have to run it a different way.

628
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 4: I have to get inside the corner.

629
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: It's the one Mississippi, it's the clock is running.

630
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 1: I guess my question would be is why One of

631
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 1: the reasons you don't see as much press stylistically now

632
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 1: is because there's much more emotion offense.

633
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 5: You see so many other teams doing it and do

634
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 5: it well Kansas City Press, but they don't do it

635
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 5: all the time the situational.

636
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: But I need, I need to show the quarterback this

637
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 3: the shehlle from the start.

638
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: So I think I think that's one thing is like

639
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: we speak in these kind of absolutes as analysts and

640
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: and so what I would say is that there are

641
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: situations where you need to press and where this team

642
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: does press and where other teams do press, but you

643
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 1: can't do it all the time because if if if

644
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm Kyle shanahanah, I'm gonna say, oh you want to

645
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: you want to press? Check this out. Let's get in

646
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: a bunch real quick. Yeah, let's motion to a bit.

647
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm chick and I'm gonna pick the heck out of

648
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: you and I'm gonna get a touchdown. And so that's

649
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, you can't do it all the time, yeah,

650
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: and so like because it presents offensively if you're in man.

651
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, remember when we played the Cowboys. This was

652
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 1: in two thousand and golly thirteen maybe, and they ran

653
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: a lot of man, and so Kyle had me in

654
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: and Kyle's like, Logan, this is back when you could

655
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: like really pick. He's like, I want you to go

656
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 1: block the corner covering Prierre. Just go running to him

657
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: as hard as you can. And we did that probably

658
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: five or six times, and Pierre had like one hundred

659
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: and fifty yards receiving. And so you can manipulate man

660
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: coverage if you're in it a lotah and so if

661
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: you're pressing, I can mapulate it even more.

662
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 5: But my thing is what that is that has to

663
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 5: be a game time decision for you, because if I

664
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 5: see you coming out in a certain formation.

665
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna bring my man down. If you ain't in bunch,

666
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 4: then okay, we're in your face obviously.

667
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 5: Now I know you because I now I want you

668
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 5: to get the bar at your hand fast enough knowing

669
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 5: that my guys are front going.

670
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 4: To get to you. You see what I'm saying. That's what

671
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 4: I'm saying. We have reaction.

672
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 5: We have to find ways to disrupt these guys game

673
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 5: plan or whatever they set out to do.

674
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 4: But when we sit out there and just be soft.

675
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: Now apart dark, I think I think what we're saying,

676
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: I think we're both saying the same thing is you

677
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: have to add a little bit of diversity to what

678
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: you're doing in terms of how you play man this show,

679
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 1: play Massah, you disguise your covered shelves, like even like

680
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: even we're going to talk about Atlanta on the preview

681
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 1: show on Thursday or Friday, when does that come out?

682
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: Jason Friday comes out on Friday, and they run a

683
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,479
Speaker 1: lot of two men. And if you're in a lot

684
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: of two man and I'm I'm a high school offensive coordinator,

685
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: I can game plan that if you do run, I

686
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: can do it every play right. But the diversity of

687
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: the play call is something that's super important. So that

688
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: we talked a lot about that. Very sorry for the

689
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: long delay there. So defense is bad kind of kind

690
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: of a kind of a pumpkin and a sao. I

691
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: think there's a little dunkin, there's a little sweeper pumps

692
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: all right, real quick. So running the ball only twice

693
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: in the second half, This is one. This is one

694
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: that I think is interesting. We lost because we didn't

695
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: run the ball in the game, and fans of this

696
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: area are especially for like predisposed to this take because

697
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: because of Joe.

698
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: Goods, why do they why it needs to be balanced,

699
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 3: Like the game is about.

700
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: What do they not do?

701
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,239
Speaker 3: We you and we're going to attack it if we

702
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 3: get down by twenty points, we're not running the ball,

703
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 3: Like that's all thirty two teams were.

704
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: Don't pass them ball.

705
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 4: We're scrapping that whole game play.

706
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 3: The game players through the football is so situational that

707
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

708
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: The ballots don't.

709
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: Matter and the balance is even like a little bit

710
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: of a snowmber. Like I think San Francisco has the

711
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: highest run rate in the NFL, and I think they're

712
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: right at like forty eight forty nine percent, which is

713
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: close to fifty, But everybody else is like in that

714
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: forty one thirty eight range. Because analytically it's easier to

715
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: throw the football, so you're never gonna be balanced running

716
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: the football right. Also, game flow dictates you you gotta

717
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: throw the football right, you gotta score three touchdowns, and

718
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that running the ball a whole

719
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: bunch like it just it's just not true. The thing

720
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: I would maybe say about this Tanna is throw a

721
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: draw in there, throw whatever screen just to get something.

722
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: And they did that, and that's what they don't realize. Screens,

723
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: quick passes, I run.

724
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the many ways it's getting cat And especially

725
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 5: when it comes to the run game. You can nowadays

726
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,479
Speaker 5: this NFL we live in now, or or football period,

727
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 5: you know, all over across the world, they find other

728
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 5: ways to get to the run game instead of just

729
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 5: handing the ball to somebody in the backfield. So yeah,

730
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 5: I'm I'm all for having a little balance, But when

731
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 5: the game plan kind of dictates, Okay, we got to

732
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 5: do this, we gotta do something different because whatever's going

733
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 5: on now in this game, like like when you watch

734
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 5: I was talking to someone this recently this past week

735
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 5: and they asked me about certain things that went on

736
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 5: in that Thursday night game.

737
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 4: I'm like, we come into the game plan with the

738
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 4: first fifteen.

739
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, but as the game go on and you see

740
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 5: things going on, you got to scrap that.

741
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 4: Sometimes you gotta say hold on, you know, run there.

742
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 5: It ain't we can't run this because of whatever's going

743
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 5: on defensively because Fletcher.

744
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,239
Speaker 2: Hot tonight is that they cannot run hit him like.

745
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: So it being's the wheel of the coaching.

746
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: And you know, we were talking about Atlanta. We're just

747
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: watching a lot of Atlanta film last couple days. All

748
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: of a sudd have been like they run the ball

749
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: a ton and they haven't be run the ball superficially,

750
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: but they can continue to run the ball because they're

751
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: in a one score game.

752
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, they can kind.

753
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: Of stay what they want they want to the game,

754
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: stay with that game flow.

755
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 4: Right Yeah.

756
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: Here, I mean I've been I'm trying to think of

757
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: a game. I can't remember a specific example where we

758
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: were down a couple of scores when you were here,

759
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: and it's like, we gotta go two minutes and we've

760
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: run two minutes for like for threequarters. Yes, everyone's tired,

761
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: people are thrown up on the sideline. It's terrible, but

762
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: we gotta score points. Ye yeah, well yeah, so I

763
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: think like that's something that I don't think.

764
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 5: He was here, but I did it a lot with

765
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 5: Jason Campbell bro we ran so many too many with Honestly,

766
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 5: it wasn't even we was down at times.

767
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 4: He ran that well like he was better and just

768
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 4: like get to the because.

769
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: He was better when it wasn't thinking, just like give me.

770
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 4: All that stuff.

771
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 5: You know, too many makes you getting a certain defense. Yeah,

772
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 5: you know, so when he makes us play south beingo.

773
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 5: So when he got that defense where he could just say, Okay,

774
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 5: I know I gotta come back.

775
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 4: Two comebacks on our side. Got these guys, got one

776
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 4: guy to know the ball, got this guy doing something.

777
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 4: He ran that well.

778
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 5: So I've been in games of situations where just dictating

779
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 5: on who you have at quarterback or how the flow

780
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 5: of the game is going as a whole, you have

781
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 5: to just do certain things. You have to scrap everything

782
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 5: else you had going on and say this is what

783
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 5: we're gonna run because this is going to make us successful.

784
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 5: Getting back to what we was talking about, you don't

785
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 5: have to run the ball to be successful.

786
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 4: You would like to have a bound of a tech.

787
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 5: But if it dictates early in the game that we

788
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 5: can't do this because of the score.

789
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 4: So be it. Then we got to go ahead throw

790
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 4: this ball in a game, So be it what you

791
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 4: gotta do.

792
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: I think that's so that's kind of a pumpkin take

793
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, Like, I understand you want to run

794
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: the ball. I understand that's important. It's an important part

795
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: of football, as much as analytics says it's not. It's important.

796
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: You can't throw the ball a hundred times, but in

797
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: this game, if we wanted to win, we need to

798
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: throw the ball.

799
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: Especially why it's warm out. The winder dictates a lot.

800
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 3: You nobody likes to talk about the weather, like when

801
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 3: it gets cold.

802
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: That's when you run the ball.

803
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: And has a weather many First of all, the weather

804
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 3: man lies all the time.

805
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: It's no different.

806
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 3: But you know what I'm saying is what's the difference

807
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: between partly cloudy and partly sunny.

808
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: It's the same thing. The dude lies all the time.

809
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: So you and the weather man are the same person. Shoot,

810
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: all right, So this is the last one. And I

811
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: heard this a lot. NFL games are hard to win,

812
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: and I've said this, you know, and I think this

813
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: is true. But I do think there's a little bit

814
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: of laziness to that right, because they are hard, but

815
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: they're hard every week, so.

816
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 3: I can say, but it's only thirty two teams and

817
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 3: it's hard to beat any of them.

818
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: They're just what it is and desity. I'm wondering people

819
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: like this.

820
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 3: I think it's it's more of a game of chess.

821
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 3: It's about the person that's moving the chess pieces. That's

822
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 3: why I think coaching is the ultimate equalizer in pro sports.

823
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 2: Great coaches make great players, period.

824
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 4: I mean not even making Yeah, you can say you

825
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 4: make them, but like you can have great chess on

826
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 4: the team and instinct and they can think you'd be like, damn,

827
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 4: I do this because because of the coach.

828
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: The coaching, Man I had gym's on you.

829
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 5: No, I'll put you in great situations like that. I

830
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 5: think that's that's that's key because I've been on offenses

831
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 5: where I'm like, man, I tell folks to this day

832
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 5: that Mike Shanahan period when you here, Yeah, like I

833
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 5: used to look forward to going to practice, Like I'm like, man,

834
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 5: we fully get the end of this opportunity.

835
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: Look at the coaches. Y'all had vade, but the only

836
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: thing y'all had six head coaches on one coach.

837
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 5: Is saying, but the thing about that, it's a difference

838
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 5: because I you know, I had a chance to play

839
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 5: with Mike them from twenty ten to thirteen and we

840
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 5: had a slewer quarterbacks.

841
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's they could put you in great situations.

842
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,479
Speaker 5: But that guy with that ball in his hand has

843
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 5: to know how to get the ball, distribute the ball

844
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 5: to those guys. And if he knows, yeah, man, that

845
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 5: thing would be like it'd be like stealing from a baby.

846
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 5: Like seriously, I mean your office can go up and

847
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 5: down the field like you watched Save Frin right now,

848
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 5: it's stealing like the ball.

849
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 4: I'm saying. They have ballers, yes, but I'm saying, but.

850
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 3: The game playing coaching and distrimined that football like probably

851
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: don't have a strong um, but he knows.

852
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 4: Who they get.

853
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 2: You beat the jimmy and the jaw.

854
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: That's one thing about game.

855
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 4: Just to go ahead and counter that.

856
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: But like what I'm saying, like like one of the

857
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: like people don't understand. One of the reasons that Kyle

858
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: Sean McDaniels are good coaches is because they prep you

859
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 1: for what the hell is going on. They give you answers,

860
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,919
Speaker 1: Hey Tanner versus cover two run it like this versus

861
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: single high running like this, Hey logan versus this technique

862
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: on the six, I want you to get your hat

863
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: inside or on this run, let's get the hat outside.

864
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: And you're like, I have answers versus different fronts that

865
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: are gonna run, and that's good coaching. The thing I

866
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: would say is you still need players, right, And we

867
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: were here in two thousand and what was that eleven?

868
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: We were not a good football team, Like we just

869
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: didn't have enough people, right, and Kyle was able to,

870
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: you know, work his magic, but we only won four

871
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: games because you just don't have the horses to get

872
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: that done. So what I would so, I would say

873
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: that it's it's it's this weird Mixed coaching can elevate talent,

874
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: but you need players. You need players. Okay, So that's

875
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: because of for that segment, guys, that was I had

876
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: a lot of fun there. I really enjoyed talking. I know,

877
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: field the onion back well, speaking of and onions, you

878
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: are a farmer, and people don't know this about you,

879
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: but in addition to being a farmer, you're also a baker.

880
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: I'm a cooker. I'm a cook period, so the fact.

881
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: You called yourself a cooker is maybe a demerit.

882
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: I'm a cook. Listen my mom be like what you're

883
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: doing in the kidschen.

884
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: I'm cooker, but baking is different than cooking. Man, we

885
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: actually have a bona fide baker here. No we don't,

886
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: Yes we do. I am here, I'm hosting the show.

887
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 1: He's a bonafide baker, Zachary Selby, who is also our

888
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: what is your official title? Your senior writer. But also

889
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: he got a great haird of hair. I'm jealous of

890
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: his hair.

891
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: He got a great head of hair.

892
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: Give it so. So Selby's here. Selby bakes Forrest like

893
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: bi weekly pretty much like every other week you'll bring

894
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: something and it's not just pies, but you break cakes

895
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: and mooses.

896
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 5: And out of nowhere, you know, smooth. Just thought of

897
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 5: hating on you, Shelby, and.

898
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 4: He will want you want to bring it in. Okay,

899
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 4: every week that this competes.

900
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: Well.

901
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 3: Once I see him bacon, I was like, not, no,

902
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 3: nobody's going out bike me.

903
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 6: So at the end, it's not a heat you've given

904
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 6: me unnecessarily. I feel like you just reasact when I

905
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 6: see you.

906
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 3: Seeing that you're dead with your head here high like

907
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 3: you you just the brown Jesus is caking.

908
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: I want to make sure that I want up.

909
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: You because Fred can't let anybody get shine. The second

910
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: someone else getting shined, Fresd's cutting that person down.

911
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: And I'm not.

912
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 1: I'm not being mean to Fred. That's just a fact

913
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:30,959
Speaker 1: about Fred.

914
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 2: Hate hate.

915
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: Okay, So what we're gonna do in order to settle

916
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: this great debate, this this debate, this battle of Will's

917
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: Selby being the perennial.

918
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 3: Say why I startedby stood up for pumpkin.

919
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: So as one, so let me Selby can introduce this. Shelby,

920
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: you said to Fred that a pumpkin pie can be

921
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: as good.

922
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 6: As good or better depending on who's making it.

923
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: I e mean sweep pie.

924
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 6: And I also said that the differences are pretty subtle. Yeah,

925
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 6: it just comes down to consistency and taste, a little bit.

926
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: A pair of lifts and tail a la. He's wrong.

927
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: Pumpkin stinks.

928
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 3: Pumpkin is the most useless vegetable tenn in the world,

929
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 3: so we.

930
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 2: Should stop growing it as a country.

931
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 1: So, just for the fans or the listeners of the podcast,

932
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: what is today. Today is Wednesday. When we're recording this,

933
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: Fred has been talking about pumpkins in the office for

934
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: the last ten days. That exact speech we've heard on

935
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: five times of the year.

936
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 3: Right, Windy's just made a frosty a pumpkin spice.

937
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: And it's just it's just a cinnamon frosty. Fred. First

938
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: of all, No, it doesn't taste no Windy, No, I know,

939
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying.

940
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 6: Probably ain't even pumpkin in that.

941
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 4: Listen.

942
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 3: Listen to literally mock the taste of something that tastes terrible,

943
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 3: is all I need to say.

944
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 6: No, it's ironic. But you say that because a lot

945
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 6: of the savings in pumpkin pie or sleep Tanta pie.

946
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: But I'm using, I'm musing.

947
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: So let's actually talk about that a little bit. Because

948
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: one of the things like I got a I gotta like,

949
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: my godfather makes a really good pumpkin pie, and I said, like,

950
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: what makes it so good? And he says, I just

951
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: put a lot of other stuff in it, like sugar, sugar,

952
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: you know, and mustard, like marshmallows and all this stuff.

953
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, it's pretty good because it's just

954
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,959
Speaker 1: it's just candy. Basic.

955
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 3: See, I ain't got to do that to the sweet potato,

956
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 3: but I ain't got to mask the taste of it.

957
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: I want to bring the flavor.

958
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: So so there's not a lot of sugars.

959
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 2: It's sugar brown.

960
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: And plus I use purpose sweet potatoes that are naturally

961
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 3: sweeter than regular sweet potatoes. And I also use a

962
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 3: secret ingredient in Man God bakes sugar liquid.

963
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 6: Look, I've been telling you can bring as many friends

964
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 6: of the party as you want. One of us is

965
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 6: going coming out of.

966
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 2: That out.

967
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 3: With a black eye. I love it, Like That's what

968
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 3: I'm saying it Lee with a black eye.

969
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 6: Look, I'll just say this, in this battle, I'm Randy

970
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:06,959
Speaker 6: Moss and you about to get burned.

971
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: In the great part about it, I checked Randy and

972
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 3: didn't get burned really good.

973
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, I checked Randy, and.

974
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 3: I'm not on any I always tell people if you

975
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 3: want to know if a dB got burned, just check

976
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: out I receive highlights.

977
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: Also, I think it's important to note that Fred made

978
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: this pie last night and less than ideal suggests. Yes,

979
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: I was kind of tipsy and then you got hold late, right,

980
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: qualifying like my dad has to saying it's like, I

981
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: don't care how you play. It's like how you play

982
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: based on what you did the night before. And Fred's Fred's.

983
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: Sponsored by Jack Dan.

984
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 7: Let's start with.

985
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: The okay, start with the pumping the pumpkin first shell.

986
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: We don't need like whipped cream or just you know,

987
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: you do however you want.

988
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 4: I had to put a little crust in it, you know,

989
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 4: I got it. The crush.

990
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's actually pretty good.

991
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 6: But you know the scene of Rocky three, what he's

992
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 6: trying to get ready for a clever lang. Yeah, that

993
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 6: was me when I'm rolling out this door for this crust,

994
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 6: because it was serious.

995
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: You know, you know what, I don't eat pumpkin, and

996
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 3: that's pretty good. It's pretty good, right, I was good.

997
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,439
Speaker 4: I never I never had pumpkin pud.

998
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 3: If I was in a bunker trapped for like six years,

999
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 3: I would eat this bump shut up, I would.

1000
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: I would. It's actually not bad.

1001
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: And it doesn't really taste super pumpkin. It's got like it.

1002
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 6: It's you know about the balancing of the flavors. You

1003
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 6: don't want to be too pumpkin forward, you want to spicy.

1004
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 6: You have the right balance of flavors okay, I'll hit

1005
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 6: you in the right spot.

1006
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: I think it's the whipped cream that's doing it.

1007
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 6: Also homemade.

1008
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: He made the whipped cream. Well, when we got I

1009
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: gotta clear my palate.

1010
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 2: I've been cant.

1011
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 4: I get some water, clem a ballet, you know, damn napkins.

1012
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: No nothing, yeah, just struggling right now.

1013
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 6: I will say this is really good.

1014
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: No, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good.

1015
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 4: All right, here we go, you see here we go?

1016
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

1017
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: That is good. Not too sweet right in? You're right

1018
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: it is. You don't have a lot of sugar in there.

1019
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 4: I didn't want to make it too sweet.

1020
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: I didn't want to kill it.

1021
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: It's I can taste your guy a little bit. Yes,

1022
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: I like that. I think I think the texture of it.

1023
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: I'd probably go the pumpkin. I think the texture is

1024
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: better on them. You a texture guy, I mean, I think,

1025
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: so tell me if I'm wrong.

1026
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: Like mine is more, Mine is more.

1027
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: It is, it's like more. I can take it and

1028
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: taste of sweet potato and it's pretty good.

1029
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 4: It's like I'm just gonna be honest.

1030
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: Well, let it go.

1031
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 5: Say I'm a sweep potato guy. So as long as

1032
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 5: it tastes good. I'm gonna take a sweet potato. It's fine, fine,

1033
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 5: I'm good. Pumpkin was good, though not exactly what.

1034
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: I've never had pumped and it's finny. No, look you

1035
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: came to my head. Yeah, you had one leg that

1036
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: was six feet one league.

1037
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 5: I would say this, you lost by just because I

1038
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 5: to within me because I like sweet potato.

1039
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 4: Your pumpkin is fine.

1040
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 6: I can't say anything.

1041
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 4: Never never had pumpkin in my life. Never, I never

1042
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 4: tried to.

1043
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: It's aod. It's a really good pie. So you're just

1044
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: actually one like uh like if you gave me like

1045
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: it's like I can taste the it's weird. I've never

1046
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: had a sweep potato like this.

1047
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: Guess what.

1048
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 3: It doesn't shock me because it's me which one logan

1049
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 3: tailor joke because you keep eating the purpose potato bat.

1050
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: I've had both. I think it's really just preference. I'm

1051
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: not a big dessert guy. I think i'd have to go.

1052
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 1: I'd probably go pumpkin here just because it's a little

1053
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: bit sweeter. But but the that's the thing that sweeping.

1054
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: I like the sweet potato pie like I don't. It's

1055
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: not like I dislike it. It's like and I, you know,

1056
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: like it's like but Tanna, like Tanna said, I'm like

1057
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: I said, I I have no I have no dog

1058
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: in this fight. I don't need a lot of pies

1059
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: unfortunately for me. But it's good. It tastes good both

1060
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: of me. I can't trust you because you smell blind.

1061
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: That is true.

1062
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 2: You smell bla.

1063
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 6: What does that even mean?

1064
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 2: He can't smell.

1065
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: I can smell better than I could. There was a

1066
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: period of my life where I couldn't smell at all.

1067
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: That's what happens when he breaks your nose at times.

1068
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, he broke his no like seventeen times. He didn't

1069
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: want to say anything.

1070
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 3: He basically he's basically, he basically Dewey Cox. He he's

1071
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: Dewey Cox. And he smelled blind and he cannot smell anything.

1072
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 3: So I know, I'm not shocked that he chills pumpkins.

1073
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: So I feel like maybe he fut a little more

1074
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: cinema with this. I'd be more in it.

1075
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't want to make it over bearing.

1076
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: It's good though, man. Yeah, I'm surprised, Fred, did you

1077
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: make you really made this yourself?

1078
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 2: I made this last night that's about Jack.

1079
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 3: Dang.

1080
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: No.

1081
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 5: First, at first I was going to be questioning in

1082
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 5: this red magging, but after it tastes home made.

1083
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's homemade.

1084
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 2: Home Yeah, it's homemade.

1085
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: So Fred, I mean obviously you made it. You or not? Jason,

1086
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: did you have a bite? So what you got? Okay?

1087
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 7: So my plate is cleared as you can imagine, a

1088
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 7: part of me wants to say that the pumpkin pie

1089
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 7: is a winner just because.

1090
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: Of friends are back.

1091
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: Do you like the supertato pie?

1092
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 7: There's it's guys, this is really close.

1093
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 5: I like the like and I'm a pumpkin I'm not

1094
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 5: a not a pumpkin hater, but I'm like, I never

1095
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 5: had pumpkin, so damn.

1096
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 2: Pump Yeah, so so you went.

1097
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 5: I would have always just said sweeping o punkin but

1098
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 5: tasting boat though.

1099
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: I really like the textra. They're both good.

1100
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 7: So with the Rocky analogies, yeah, I feel like this

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00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 7: is Rocky.

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00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: One, Rocky one. It's a draw.

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00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 7: A lot of respect here. So you sweet potato pie

1104
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 7: was it's pumpkin pie. It's right there.

1105
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 2: I don't there's a draw.

1106
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: It kind of feels like a draw.

1107
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 2: So you believe in more victories. What happened to is

1108
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: after the game.

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00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: But like see, like I'm having bites of both and

1110
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: I can't be like one of these is bad. Ye,

1111
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: Like I kind of like the texture a little bit

1112
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 1: better of Selby's, but I do. I like the there's

1113
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: like a some there's some earth. There's a girth, the girth.

1114
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: The girth that's about.

1115
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: There.

1116
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: You go this sept it sewed up, No, And I

1117
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 3: think they're blown away, blown away by the being purple

1118
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 3: like usually when people eat sweet with Tata.

1119
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: Well. And also it's I think there's like a little

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00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 1: bit of like, you know, like how you're like my, my, my,

1121
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: my godfather. He used to make his, and the consistency

1122
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: was much more like Selby's, you know what I'm saying,

1123
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: a little bit soft, a little bit more fluffy. Right,

1124
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: So this is different from me, but I still think

1125
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: it's good, you know what I'm saying. So it's like

1126
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: it's probably goes back to like when I was eight

1127
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: years old at Thanksgiving getting after you know sweep or

1128
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: you know, pump pi or whatever, swe potato pie. It

1129
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: reminds me of that a little bit.

1130
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 5: So so I had gif Fred benefited.

1131
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: Do you know Fred, good job, man, great job.

1132
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 2: No, no, no. The one thing about sports we keep

1133
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 2: we keep points. I sc seven, you scold six.

1134
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: No, it's okay, just to be annoying. Seven for Tanna,

1135
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: seven for me, three for Jason, going both ways, you

1136
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: both got ten and.

1137
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: Then Indian, I'm the tie breaker.

1138
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: Then well the time breaker. Okay, this is this is

1139
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: this is a great idea, and this is why our

1140
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 1: producer makes the big bucks, makes the medium bucks. Sorry, Bud,

1141
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: the uh the I think we need to do a

1142
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: tie breaker.

1143
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 2: So we need to do a remake.

1144
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: I think so for Thanksgiving, us want to do something.

1145
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the time he listen, this is the

1146
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 3: time of pumpkins.

1147
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 6: Right, that's my favorite tim Thanksgiving underrated?

1148
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: So what so like, can we kind of do you

1149
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: guys want to both do a sweet potato po? I

1150
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: mean we've had friends sweet potato by? Do you do

1151
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: a sweet potato by?

1152
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 6: Come to your home turn, I'll beat you with you.

1153
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 2: How about I make my first pumpkin?

1154
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: That's a great break. Already, need to see.

1155
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 4: Who is just a better baker.

1156
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 2: I got to go on his turf.

1157
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: You gotta come on my tur alright, al right, I'm

1158
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: in Okay. Great, that's the end of the show and

1159
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: I don't know how to end it better than than

1160
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: the rematch than the rematch of the of the Baking Century.

1161
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1167
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,239
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1168
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1169
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1173
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1183
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