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Speaker 1: Here's Craig Grioloud, Paul Calvis and nine year NFL veteran

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Speaker 1: Rob Frederickson.

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Speaker 3: So I look to my left and there are two

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Speaker 3: empty chairs. Literally, there are two empty chairs. I'm assuming

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Speaker 3: Paul Calvic was going to sit in one and Rob

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Speaker 3: Frederickson was gonna sit in another. Did you guys miss

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Speaker 3: your flights?

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Speaker 4: What happened?

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Speaker 2: Weather delays?

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Speaker 3: Why are you not here in Indianapolis for the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty six scouting combine? Like I am?

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Speaker 5: Well, first off, I know I wasn't invited, so I'm

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Speaker 5: on the outside looking in once again. On the reindeer games,

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Speaker 5: it would be uh, you and Danny and Darren and

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Speaker 5: all that. Okay, I get it. But number two, I'm

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Speaker 5: silently protesting the combine right now because if I hear

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Speaker 5: another word about AJ Brown Eagles receiver on the move,

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Speaker 5: I'm done. I'm just done. So this is a no

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Speaker 5: Aj Brown zone, no diva receiver zone right now.

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Speaker 6: Rob Frederickson, Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: Agree.

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Speaker 6: I would love to be there with you, but I

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Speaker 6: got caught up in the medical you know. That's that

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Speaker 6: pesky stinger I got. I'm back in nineteen eighty nine.

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Speaker 6: They wanted to check it out, So I'm sorry I

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Speaker 6: missed that seat there next to you. Agree.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, still bothering you, Rob, It's still still still bothers.

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Speaker 6: You every now and again, nagging.

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Speaker 3: But by the way, since you bring up the scouting combine,

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Speaker 3: your I think we do this every single year around

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Speaker 3: this time because I do believe it's good to reflect

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Speaker 3: and look back because what this has become. As I

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Speaker 3: look in front of me, gentlemen, there are sixty plus

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Speaker 3: tables here, many NFL teams, other media outlets behind me

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Speaker 3: in this convention hall is the number of different podiums

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Speaker 3: where gentle managers and head coaches plus draft prospects we'll

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Speaker 3: be speaking this week, by the way, Monti Austin Ford

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Speaker 3: will address reporters in about ten to fifteen minutes. Head

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Speaker 3: coach Mike Laflor will address reporters coming up in an

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Speaker 3: hour from Indianapolis. And of course all the coverage on

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Speaker 3: Azycardinals dot com. But Rob back when you played versus

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Speaker 3: what it is now night and day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it really is.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 6: I think when when I went to Indianapolis, I almost

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Speaker 6: think it was a bigger thing back then and than

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Speaker 6: it is now. I think more stock was put into it.

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Speaker 6: What guys measurables were, what your weight was, how many

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Speaker 6: times you benched to twenty five? You know, there was

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Speaker 6: these preconceived notions that if you're playing a position of strength,

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Speaker 6: like an offensive defensive line linebacker tight end, you had

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Speaker 6: just a benchmark you had to do that.

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Speaker 4: You had to weigh over.

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Speaker 6: Two hundred and forty pounds if you're going to be

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Speaker 6: a linebacker. Those type of preconceived notions I think were

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Speaker 6: firmly ingrained back then, whereas now I think the most

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Speaker 6: important aspect of the combine really is the medical piece

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Speaker 6: clear your individual team's physicals. And I think for the

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Speaker 6: most part, the teams rely heavily on film. On what

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Speaker 5: That in combined with the interviews, right, Craig, how often

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Speaker 5: evaluate this person as a player. But in the day

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Speaker 5: player against the run and third down and short, I

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Speaker 5: mean it's amazing how at the touch of a button,

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Speaker 5: the medical And when you're listening to gms like we're

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Speaker 3: No question medicals and the interviews that happened during the day.

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Speaker 3: At night, you get to know the person. Then you

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Speaker 3: figure out, Okay, do you want that person in your building?

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Speaker 3: kind of go back to what they did on Saturdays.

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Speaker 3: So the big discussion point here so far in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 3: two overall, Paul, is the strength of this draft class,

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jeremiah and ask him just that the strength or the theme,

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Speaker 3: if you will, of this year's draft class probably pass rush.

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Speaker 7: To be honest with you, I think it's a really

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Speaker 7: through each of the first four rounds where there's these

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Speaker 7: little clumps of guys that I think all have a

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Speaker 7: It's the Eagles didn't have anybody with ten sacks, but

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Speaker 3: We hear it all the time. Rob defense wins championships,

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Speaker 3: a pass rush might not be one, but it's going

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Speaker 3: to be several different players who can get after the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and when you find that guy, it's hard to

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Speaker 6: two Super Bowls, the Eagles and the Seahawks, they were

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Speaker 6: getting pressure on a quarterback, that's paramount. That's that's a

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Speaker 6: number one. And this year's draft class is very heavy

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Speaker 5: As much as the Cardinals need help in the offensive line,

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Speaker 5: and we all acknowledge and recognize that they also need

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Speaker 5: additional help getting to the quarterback. Beyond Josh Sweat and

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Speaker 5: you can get that bookend guy and Craig, we've seen

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Speaker 5: a shift in the mock drafts already. I know it's here.

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Speaker 5: We are right in late February. We got a long

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Speaker 5: say nine of the first ten major mock drafts that

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Speaker 5: Now we're seeing a wave including mel Kiper two point

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Speaker 5: zero today where Cardinals are going edge David Bailey out

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Speaker 5: I have no problem with whatsoever, because if you can

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Speaker 3: The other name factoring in that is Arvel Reese Edge

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Speaker 3: might be able to line him up. Thirty six games

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Speaker 3: played over his career, seven career sacks, six and a

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Speaker 3: half of which last season. So as Paul you like

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Speaker 3: to say, it's protect the quarterback, get after the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I don't think the Cardinals can go wrong either way

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Speaker 3: if they go offensive line or defensive line slash edge defender.

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Speaker 5: No doubt. And look, if you don't get one and

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Speaker 5: way you're seeing. That seems to be consensus right now,

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Speaker 5: common may or may not say about that. If you

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Speaker 5: to think that there's gonna be a really talented pass

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Speaker 5: by the way, good get on that interview. A because

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Speaker 5: he's one of the foremost authorities on the draft. If

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Speaker 5: indeed that's the deepest position group. Good because if you

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Speaker 5: go offensive tackle in the first round, then maybe there's

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Speaker 5: a really talented edge rusher still available top A round two.

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Speaker 3: The entire Daniel Jeremiah interview coming up this week on

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Speaker 3: Cardinals Cover two. Also earlier today, had a chance to

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Speaker 3: touch base with Dame Bruggler of The Athletic once again.

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Speaker 3: Do you stick and pick or what about the possibility

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Speaker 3: as we've seen before with MANI trade down from that

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Speaker 8: I would be surprised if we saw many trades in

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Speaker 8: bet is for somebody to just fall in love with

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Speaker 8: back too. Is maybe there you can have a trade opportunity.

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Speaker 8: But I think it's gonna be tough. I think a

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Speaker 8: Oh well, trade back and look at this this I

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Speaker 8: don't think that that phone's not ringing.

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Speaker 3: Have to have a willing trade partner to answer that phone. Paul,

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Speaker 3: and I think the maybe issue is the wrong term

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Speaker 3: to use. But what's missing in this year's draft is

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Speaker 3: another quarterback. Bernanda Mendoza is one of one, and then

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Speaker 3: it's okay, what else do you do? There might not

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Speaker 5: Yeah, totally agree. Is anyone trading up to get a

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Speaker 5: running back doubtful, even as talented as as the Notre

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Speaker 5: Dame running back might be a quarterback. Now you're talking.

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Speaker 5: Now you're talking somebody making you an offer you can't refuse,

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Speaker 5: potentially at number three.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and this draft is really full of top end talent,

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Speaker 6: but they're in position groups that are not typically what

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Speaker 3: That's Sean McVay coaching tree, Matt Lafleur, Kevin O'Connell, Liam Cohen,

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Speaker 10: I do think that the way that Sean teaches evaluates

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Speaker 3: Of That doesn't guarantee success, Paul, but if you're going

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Speaker 5: Anybody get a look at the most recent staff announced

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Speaker 5: No doubt, if there's something remarkable, they'll know about it.

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Speaker 3: Certainly this is not going to be the Green Bay Packers,

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Speaker 11: I've never worked with Hack. I've obviously known Hack for

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Speaker 11: a lot of years, but obviously the years that he

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Speaker 11: spent with Green Bay and my brother, what a vital

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Speaker 11: part he had success, you know, early on, and uh,

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Speaker 11: what an opportunity for us and myself to.

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Speaker 6: Be able to land him.

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Speaker 12: Gotta love explosives. That's why the fans get in the stands.

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Speaker 12: I think we're always we're always looking for that. But

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Speaker 12: there's also a sense of efficiency. So everything you do

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Speaker 12: within a foundation of a system is to be able

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Speaker 12: to find your efficiency and what those guys can hang

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Speaker 12: their hat on. So I think that whatever it is

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Speaker 12: for us, you have to be able to evolve because

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Speaker 12: the players change a lot.

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Speaker 3: Inously, the first coaching staff for head coach Mike Laflour

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Speaker 3: is set. As you heard him speak about his offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 3: Nathaniel Hackett. Nick Rowlis retained as defensive coordinator. Special teams

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Speaker 3: coordinator is Michael Gilbril. As we say welcome back, it

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Speaker 3: is the Cardinals Red Sea reports myself Greg Reallu here

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Speaker 3: in Indianapolis for the twenty twenty six scouting combine Paul

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Speaker 3: Calvic rod Frederickson back in studios. We dive into Laflour's staff,

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Speaker 3: Paul and take a look. First things first, about the

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Speaker 3: offensive coordinator. No, Hackett will not call plays, but just

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Speaker 3: listening to Lafleur talk about Hackett and Hackett talk about

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Speaker 3: Lafleur a veteran and someone that I think Mike can

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Speaker 3: really leave when times are difficult, whether that's during the season,

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Speaker 3: during the week, or on game day.

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Speaker 5: I mean five times he's been an offensive coordinator over

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Speaker 5: the last two decades, five different teams. Think of all

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Speaker 5: the different personnel, all the different quarterbacks he's worked with.

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Speaker 5: He total great anecdote of Aaron Rodgers, how demanding Aaron

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Speaker 5: Rodgers was Aaron Rodgers was the why guy before gen Z.

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Speaker 5: Why are we doing this? What's behind this? You know

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Speaker 5: I need answers over here. I'm not just gonna do

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Speaker 5: anything you tell me. There better be a good reason,

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Speaker 5: You better have justification. So I thought that was really insightful.

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Speaker 5: And then you know what, he also kept it reel

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Speaker 5: and said, my one year as a head coach with

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Speaker 5: Denver that lasted fifteen games, not even a full season,

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Speaker 5: A lot of extenuating circumstances. But ostensibly, theoretically he can

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Speaker 5: tell Michael Lafleur, look, as a first time head coach,

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Speaker 5: you might want to try this, you might want to

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Speaker 5: avoid that, and I'm guessing there's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 5: of valuable insight from someone who recently has been there

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Speaker 5: and done that as a first time head coach.

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Speaker 3: Michae laflor mentioned that Hackett would quote set the table

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Speaker 3: for the offense, and I think that is key, Rob,

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Speaker 3: because it's not just the play caller but the position coaches.

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Speaker 3: Everyone needs to be on the same page on game day.

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Speaker 3: But in order for that to happen, it's what happens

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Speaker 3: between Monday through Saturday. Making sure that there are no

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Speaker 3: surprises and everything is accounted for and planned for when

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Speaker 3: you get to game day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's really where the offensive coordinator and the

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Speaker 6: position coaches come into play. And at heart, position coaches

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Speaker 6: are really teachers, right, So you know, I don't know

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Speaker 6: a lot about most of these guys. Obviously Justin Fry

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Speaker 6: was here last year. But what kind of teachers are they?

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Speaker 6: How can the players will respect coaches regardless of their

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Speaker 6: resume and their pedigree if when they ask them questions

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Speaker 6: and players ask a lot of questions, you know, you, Paul,

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Speaker 6: you want to talk about why? And ask them why.

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Speaker 6: You go into any meeting room of any position group

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Speaker 6: and it's NonStop questions for the position coach. And if

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Speaker 6: that position coach can't answer them or says I got

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Speaker 6: to get back to you, that's a problem. And and

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Speaker 6: so it's really incumbent upon these guys to get schooled

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Speaker 6: up in short order on on whatever offensive scheme they're

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Speaker 6: going to run, know it inside and out and and

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Speaker 6: be reliable source of information for the players. And that

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Speaker 6: that'll that will add instant respect from the players and

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Speaker 6: and uh, really that's that's the the ultimate goal I

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Speaker 6: think for this for this coaching staff is to be

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Speaker 6: that source for players and and to really know this

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Speaker 6: offense inside and out.

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Speaker 3: No player more important than the quarterback. Let's hear from

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Speaker 3: Nathaniel Hacketts on the relationship between head coach, offensive coordinator

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Speaker 3: and quarterback.

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Speaker 12: There's so many ups and downs. They have to have

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Speaker 12: something steady and they have to have something a foundation

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Speaker 12: that they can believe in. I mean, that's the key,

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Speaker 12: because you want them to have as I've always said,

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Speaker 12: as my father used to tell me, is they have

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Speaker 12: to have it can't stop me mentality, no matter what

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Speaker 12: the situation is, whether you take a hit, complete a throw,

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Speaker 12: don't complete a throw, they have to come back every

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Speaker 12: single play erase that last one and be able to

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Speaker 12: execute the next one. And I mean they touch the

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Speaker 12: ball every play. So it's it's one of those things

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Speaker 12: for us, for all the coaches, it's about supporting that

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Speaker 12: position because when that position plays well, you're going to

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Speaker 12: have a good football team.

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Speaker 3: On the offensive side. Before we switch it over to defense,

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Speaker 3: you look at who's going to be working with the quarterback, Paul,

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Speaker 3: and that is a former quarterback himself. Matt Sup played

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Speaker 3: in the NFL for seventeen seasons, twice made the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Did cross paths with the Floor with the Falcons in

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Speaker 3: twenty sixteen. So now he's that voice in the position

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Speaker 3: room before where you get to the offensive coordinator and

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Speaker 3: the head coach.

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Speaker 5: And to Rob's point, it's so valuable, I think to

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Speaker 5: have a former NFL quarterback in that room, especially someone

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Speaker 5: with seventeen years of experienced, guy who's been the second string,

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Speaker 5: the third string, a guy who spent several years as

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Speaker 5: a starting quarterback in the NFL, knows all the pressure

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Speaker 5: associated with it, knows the ups and downs, knows guess what,

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Speaker 5: You're in a division with a Seahawks defense that is

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl champ right now, You're going to be going

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Speaker 5: against a Rams defensive front that's really talented. Here comes

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Speaker 5: Fred Warner and Nick Bosa again. And you know what,

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Speaker 5: Sometimes that voice in the room has to be the

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Speaker 5: calming guy and has to develop these guys in so

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Speaker 5: many different ways. And the fact that la Floor and

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Speaker 5: Shaw worked together at Atlanta, there's that knowledge there going

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Speaker 5: back to Nathaniel Hackett, his famous father Paul Hackett, who

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Speaker 5: was one of the most brilliant offensive mines behind Bill

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Speaker 5: Walsh in the eighties, worked for Bill Walsh with the Niners,

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Speaker 5: won a ring, went to the Cowboys, then in the

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Speaker 5: late eighties won another ring and was a passing game coordinator.

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Speaker 5: So there's a lot of experience, there's a lot of

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Speaker 5: football IQ in there. And whether it's Jacoby Brissett and

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Speaker 5: a rookie quarterback, whether there's a free agent quarterback that's coming,

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Speaker 5: who knows. But you like to think Cardinals are pretty

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Speaker 5: well equipped because there's player development not only in all

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Speaker 5: the other positions, but even at the quarterback spot. And

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Speaker 5: Jacoby Brissett was pretty forthright with this, just how much

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Speaker 5: better he got with more reps and areas he needed

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Speaker 5: to improve. And as your pencil next sideline reporter, I

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Speaker 5: see that relationship all the time on the sideline, how

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Speaker 5: close Jacoby Brissett was with Izzy last year and how

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Speaker 5: they would talk the entirety of the game looking at

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Speaker 5: that tablet making adjustments on the fly.

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Speaker 3: Well, speaking of the quarterback position, as Paul Arboss, Darren

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Speaker 3: Urban has just sat down here at table forty nine,

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Speaker 3: General manager Manti Austin Fort has just addressed reporters. So

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Speaker 3: I'm flying blind right now there, So why don't you

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Speaker 3: just let everyone know I'm guessing quarterback came up once

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Speaker 3: or twice when Monty was at the podium.

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Speaker 13: Quarterback not only came up once or twice, but he

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Speaker 13: actually did an opening statement saying, I know when he

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Speaker 13: walked up their money Asafort said, I know, that's what's

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Speaker 13: on everybody's.

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Speaker 4: Mind right now, is what's going to happen at quarterback.

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Speaker 13: And then he essentially repeated what he had said the

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Speaker 13: last couple of times he's talked, which is that all

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Speaker 13: options are on the table and that the process is ongoing.

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Speaker 13: And that was about as far as he was willing

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Speaker 13: to go now. He was asked a couple more quarterback

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Speaker 13: centric questions. Somebody dad asked him about Malik Willis, who

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Speaker 13: Montia support was in Tennessee when Willis was in Tennessee. Briefly,

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Speaker 13: when it came to Willis, Monty was basically said, I'm

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Speaker 13: not going to get into player evaluations, but talked about

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Speaker 13: Willis was a pretty good guy when he was around him,

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Speaker 13: but certainly was not going anywhere in that direction. And again,

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Speaker 13: for those of us wanting answers, it didn't really surprise

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Speaker 13: any of us that.

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Speaker 4: That answer today was not coming.

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Speaker 13: And I know Michael floor will probably be asked about

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Speaker 13: it at the top of the hour and he probably

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Speaker 13: will say the exact same thing. So we're still in

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Speaker 13: a holding pattern there and we'll find out what happens.

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Speaker 3: Your tweet about all options on the table is exactly

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Speaker 3: what Mani has said earlier this offseason, and all options

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Speaker 3: are going to remain on the table until they're no

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Speaker 3: longer on the table.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, my guess is that is going to be continued

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Speaker 13: to be the answer until literally the day the news

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Speaker 13: breaks of whatever happens with Kyler if anything, because I've

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Speaker 13: been thinking about this too, it's like we're all waiting

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Speaker 13: for the shoot to drop, and I think we all

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Speaker 13: kind of feel like it's headed in a certain direction.

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Speaker 4: But he ends up on this team.

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Speaker 13: It's not like they're gonna put out a press release

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Speaker 13: saying Kyler Murray's back. I mean, it's just where it's

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Speaker 13: just nothing's gonna happen. So, yeah, there's a waiting game involved.

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Speaker 13: Everybody kind of knows it. But you're here at the

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Speaker 13: combine and everybody's talking about the quarterbacks and the lack

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Speaker 13: of high end depth at the position in the draft

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Speaker 13: and who might be out there in the news this morning.

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Speaker 13: That Kirk Cousins is definitely going to be on the market.

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Speaker 13: You know, it tends to pick up a little steam.

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Speaker 3: And Bear's general manager talked about phone calls being received

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Speaker 3: for Tyson Pagent. So the quarterback position, if you don't

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Speaker 3: have one, Paul, as you like to say, then well

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Speaker 3: you don't really have a chance. So that's kind of

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Speaker 3: where we're at here in Indianapolis. Everyone wants to talk

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Speaker 3: about the quarterback and well, right now, Darren doesn't have

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Speaker 3: any answers, I mean, Paul, basically, Darren has a lot

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Speaker 3: of answers, just not to that question.

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Speaker 5: Did anyone pipe up with at number three overall? Whether

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Speaker 5: edge rush er, you know, protect that quarterback, get to

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Speaker 5: the quarterback? Anybody get any thoughts and where he thought

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Speaker 5: the strengths of this draft might be.

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Speaker 13: No, And to be honest, that not that particularly thing, Paul,

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Speaker 13: And I'll be honest, I'm not.

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Speaker 4: Sure he is gonna say anything.

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Speaker 13: I mean, somebody asked him about how he thought this

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Speaker 13: draft might play out or his thoughts on the draft,

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Speaker 13: and Monty was incredibly.

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Speaker 4: Vague, as he usually is.

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Speaker 13: You know, we there definitely seems to be a general

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Speaker 13: consensus from the outside people and the outside people aren't

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Speaker 13: the inside people in the NFL, so we never know

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Speaker 13: for sure, but obviously from the outside people, it definitely

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Speaker 13: feels like edge rusher in the top three value wise

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Speaker 13: makes a lot more sense than perhaps one of the

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Speaker 13: offensive linemen at least at this point.

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Speaker 4: But you just you don't know. You don't know how

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Speaker 4: this is gonna play out now. The one thing I do.

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Speaker 13: Think is that I think back to Monty's first draft

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Speaker 13: and moving on from will Anderson and trading back to

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Speaker 13: eventually get Paris Johnson. I guess there could be a

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Speaker 13: repeat there of almost the exact same situation, except I

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Speaker 13: don't who's trading up to get one of these edge rushers.

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Speaker 13: I don't know if they're quite in the will Anderson class.

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Speaker 13: And the other thing that happened in that draft was

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Speaker 13: the Texans already had a high pick where they could

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Speaker 13: get the quarterback, so they could afford to get a

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Speaker 13: little bit more.

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Speaker 4: Clever with how they wanted to move up and get

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Speaker 4: that pass rusher.

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Speaker 13: I don't I don't necessarily see that right now, most

657
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 13: people don't. Trade wise, when you don't have quarterbacks at

658
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Speaker 13: the top of the class, the trade market.

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Speaker 4: Gets a lot more sketchy. So I'm with you, Paul.

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Speaker 13: I find it hard to believe that if they stay

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Speaker 13: at three, it's either not an edge rusher or an

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Speaker 13: offensive lineman. But but you don't know. You just don't

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Speaker 13: know at this point.

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Speaker 3: So the general manager has spoken. The head coach, Micha

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Speaker 3: Laflora will speak at the top of the hour. So

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Speaker 3: before we let you go down and secure your spot,

667
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Speaker 3: to make sure you.

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Speaker 4: Ask all them. I had to box some people out

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Speaker 4: just to get to Monte.

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Speaker 13: Oh now now it thinned out about halfway through.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, okay.

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Speaker 5: Well save an extra elbow for Mark Clooner cam Cox

673
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Speaker 5: that they're out there all right, give them.

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Speaker 4: I do not believe there's any TVs out.

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Speaker 3: Geeza last thoughts or anything else that you are top

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Speaker 3: of mind that either you know right now or might

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Speaker 3: be die further into on Easycardinals dot com.

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Speaker 13: Well after, we'll have a quarterback story today such that

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Speaker 13: it is. And uh, you know, I think I want

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Speaker 13: to visit the running back situation on a lot of

681
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Speaker 13: people are talking about it, but I know one of

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Speaker 13: the interviews you did earlier today, Paul Craig was with

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Speaker 13: Dame Brugler talking about how there's a very it's a

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Speaker 13: very thin running back class, which is interesting given I

685
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 13: think some running back needs for this team. Obviously, I

686
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 13: think there's gonna be some talk about the edge because

687
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 13: that's definitely a very big possibility for this team at three.

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Speaker 13: So we're we're gonna be handling all this stuff. But

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Speaker 13: don't forget Craig. We still have weeks and weeks until

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Speaker 13: the drafts. We have plenty of time to talk about

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Speaker 13: all this stuff.

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Speaker 3: Paul loves the speculation I season.

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Speaker 4: I know it's his favorite time of year.

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Speaker 5: No, no Kuiper two point oh, by the time we

695
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Speaker 5: get to late April will be twenty point Oh. Just

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Speaker 5: move the decimal point over.

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Speaker 3: Darren, appreciate it, and we'll get back to work.

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Speaker 4: Oh I, we'll do that, see Paul.

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Speaker 3: That's Darren Irman Azycardinals dot Com at cart Shadow, otherwise

700
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Speaker 3: known as Paul and my boss over at the Arizona Cardinals,

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Speaker 3: which Darren always loves when I bring that up. All right,

702
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 3: when we come back, more on MONI or choose more

703
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 3: on Mike Laflor's coaching staff and what happened late last

704
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 3: week that should have everyone excited about. We will get

705
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 3: to that. Next it is the Cardinals Red Superport live

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Speaker 3: from Indianapolis and the twenty twenty six Scouting Combine right

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Speaker 3: here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network.

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Speaker 9: Today is a momentous day. It's a momentous day in

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Speaker 9: the Cardinals history, the city of Phoenix, the valley, in

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Speaker 9: the state of Arizona.

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Speaker 11: All you want out of an ownership group and an

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Speaker 11: owner is a commitment. And not only have you said

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Speaker 11: there's a commitment, you're showing the commitment. And it's going

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Speaker 11: to benefit all of us coaches, personnel department, everyone here,

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Speaker 11: but most importantly, it's going to benefit these players.

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Speaker 9: This multi generational investment is something that we carefully considered,

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Speaker 9: and we considered the location. We've been looking at this

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Speaker 9: for years. I wanted to make sure was player first,

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Speaker 9: performance first, and we leveraged the Cardinals headquarters to have

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Speaker 9: the most greater good for the state of Arizona and

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Speaker 9: the city Phoenix as possible.

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Speaker 3: Set your calendars to twenty twenty eight. I know it's

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Speaker 3: a little ways way, but hey, it is going to

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Speaker 3: be worth it. Ground broken last Thursday on the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: New Training Facility and Business Operations. The location Loop one

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Speaker 3: A one and Scottsdale Road. Paul, you were out there

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Speaker 3: as was I and just looking at some of the

728
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Speaker 3: renderings of what the facility is going to look like.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure is going to make everyone happy for one

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Speaker 3: location and what is become an arms race around the

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Speaker 3: NFL and even college football, state of the art facility

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Speaker 3: for coaches and players.

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Speaker 5: I know you guys aren't used to get in your

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Speaker 5: hands dirty, but you know I was right at home.

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Speaker 5: They're on the construction site and you know, the groundbreaking

736
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Speaker 5: shovel in hand. Well, theoretically a lot of daydreaming. Honestly,

737
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Speaker 5: everyone's standing out there. I mean a premier location, a

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Speaker 5: prime piece of property that I think, over the years

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00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 5: and the decades, will come to realize what a wise

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Speaker 5: acquisition this was by the Cardinals in terms of just

741
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Speaker 5: where it's going to be located, the view of the

742
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Speaker 5: McDowell Mountains, how they're going to showcase the actual property itself,

743
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Speaker 5: ingrain it into the design. Everything that's come I mean

744
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Speaker 5: from the three outdoor fields and the indoor training center

745
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Speaker 5: with a full sized turf field, all the other amenities,

746
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Speaker 5: the residential, the retail, the restaurants. It's going to be

747
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 5: so far beyond football, and it's going to be so

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Speaker 5: visible from the highway, everyone will be able to see it.

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Speaker 5: I just get it's going to showcase everything that's great

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Speaker 5: about the Cardinals in the NFL well.

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Speaker 6: And the thing that I love about it is it's

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Speaker 6: not just for the players of today and just in

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Speaker 6: terms of their needs both and from the from the

754
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Speaker 6: medical standpoint or training, recovery, practicing. But there's there's space there.

755
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 6: There's room there for it to grow, for the next generation,

756
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Speaker 6: for twenty years down the road, for this thing to

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Speaker 6: evolves as the needs of the team and the players evolved.

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Speaker 6: So that that's for me, the most exciting piece of this.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, obviously to have the retail and the and

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Speaker 6: the commercial aspects and the locate is prime.

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Speaker 3: So what I'm hearing Rob is potential coming out of

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Speaker 3: retirement in twenty twenty eight, just so you can walk

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Speaker 3: into the facility. I'm not talking about playing in a game,

764
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Speaker 3: but just to maybe come in and use the amenities

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Speaker 3: if you will.

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Speaker 6: Great agreed. My sciatica. Right now, I'm literally sitting on

767
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Speaker 6: one knee in the studio. I'm not walking into anything.

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Speaker 6: I'm not making a comeback Buddy.

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Speaker 5: Well, Craig, this is a guy who, if memory serves,

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Speaker 5: you really didn't have a home game in nineteen ninety

771
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Speaker 5: five because you trained in LA and would practice and

772
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Speaker 5: you guys would fly up to Oakland on game day.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, So we trained in LA and an old

775
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Speaker 6: middle school and our meeting rooms were in construction trailers.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, anything is an upgrade from that.

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Speaker 3: You know what they say, Rob, no pain, no gain,

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Speaker 3: So we appreciate you handling things with us on this Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: This training facility going to be about the players and

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00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 3: developing players. But development of players is already something that's

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Speaker 3: been talked about, not waiting until twenty twenty eight, but

782
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Speaker 3: how about twenty twenty six. It was brought up during

783
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Speaker 3: the season, it was brought up at the end of

784
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Speaker 3: the season, and something that retained. Defensive coordinator Nick Rolis

785
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 3: brought up when he addressed reporters last week.

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Speaker 14: How do we improve teaching in the classroom? You know,

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Speaker 14: I call it like cognitive recall, because on the grass

788
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Speaker 14: it ultimately comes down to decisions and actions. How fast

789
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Speaker 14: can they make a decision and can they carry out

790
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Speaker 14: the action necessary to execute the scheme? Is there any

791
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Speaker 14: other ways that we can teach this thing, or should

792
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Speaker 14: we be changing how we're teaching it. You know what

793
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Speaker 14: we're teaching so that it ups execution and performance. Deep

794
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 14: dive in that one percent, because that's our job as

795
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Speaker 14: coaches is to develop.

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Speaker 3: And that, to me, Rob I think is priority number one.

797
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Speaker 3: Soft season. You made the change at head coach. The

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Speaker 3: talents is there on the roster. Now it's how do

799
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Speaker 3: you get that talent out onto the football field. Because

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Speaker 3: there has been a number of players selected under GM

801
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Speaker 3: Monty Austin for I believe the number is twenty eight,

802
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 3: So twenty eight draft picks. Again, not everyone is going

803
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 3: to hit, but a lot of investments in the first round,

804
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Speaker 3: in the first two days of the draft, the first

805
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Speaker 3: three rounds overall, that you would like to see a

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Speaker 3: little bit more productivity from some of those players, many

807
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Speaker 3: of those players.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So it begs the question, you know, is this

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Speaker 6: a talent evaluation issue or is it a talent development issue?

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Speaker 6: And you know, I look, I think you can always

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Speaker 6: develop players, you can always get the you can always

812
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Speaker 6: get a little bit more out of players. But certain players,

813
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 6: you know, they have a ceiling and have have any

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Speaker 6: of these players reach that ceiling. That's a question that's

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Speaker 6: yet to be answered. But development is so vital. It

816
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Speaker 6: goes back to what I said earlier about teaching. This

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Speaker 6: is really what coaches are. They're teachers and they have

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Speaker 6: to find a way to get it across to the players.

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Speaker 6: That is that it is received and understood and and

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Speaker 6: they're able to apply it out on the field. Every

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Speaker 6: everybody learns differently. Everybody responds to two different ways of

822
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Speaker 6: receiving information. So you know, it's it's incumbent upon these

823
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Speaker 6: coaches to find and connect with each individual player and

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Speaker 6: get the most out of them in that regard.

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Speaker 5: You know how during the bye week teams will self

826
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Speaker 5: scout you know that term, and they'll go back, all right,

827
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Speaker 5: what are our tendencies? We need to break those tendencies.

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Speaker 5: We need to evolve the system, the scheme, the game plan. Well,

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Speaker 5: it sounds like listening to Nick Rowls there and knowing

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Speaker 5: the importance of Maniassin forward at the season eighty press

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Speaker 5: conference put on player development, that the Cardinals are going

832
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Speaker 5: to be looking internally, not at their schemes, not to

833
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Speaker 5: trying out to game plan against the ram Seahawks and

834
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Speaker 5: forty nine Ers like Nick Ross typically would do. How

835
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Speaker 5: do I match up against McVeigh and Shanahan, et cetera. No,

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Speaker 5: how do we get the most out of every single

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Speaker 5: player on our roster? Where can we enhance our own

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Speaker 5: teaching and that player development? It sounds like that is

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Speaker 5: first and foremost, or at least front burner right now.

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Speaker 6: And maybe schematically putting them in a right position for

841
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 6: to get the most benefit out of them individually where

842
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 6: they might get the most good for this team. That's

843
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 6: part of it as well.

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Speaker 3: A couple of players immediately come to mind speaking of

845
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 3: the draft, Darius Robinson, Max Melton, first and second round picks, respectfully.

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Speaker 3: Can you get more out of those guys on the

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00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 3: football fields? Something to keep an eye on, not only

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Speaker 3: this week, but in the weeks and months to come. Gentlemen,

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. It's uh. I miss you, though

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00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 3: I do miss the weather. It's it's it's it's upper twenties,

851
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 3: low thirties, no flurries in the forecast in the week,

852
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Speaker 3: So I do miss that, But I do miss the

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Speaker 3: two of you, and not being in i'd be able

854
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 3: to hang out with you on a Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 5: Well, look, put a ceiling. Put a cap on, Darren Irvan.

857
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 5: Only three shrimp cocktail per day period?

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Speaker 3: Yeah per day?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, almost.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it. Gentlemen, this is the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network.

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