1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This episode number two and thirty three, 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: and today Dan and I are back together again and 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: we're discussing his life changing elk hunt in Colorado in 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: my downright disappointing trip to North Dakota. Before we kick 8 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: things off, though, we want to thank our friends at 9 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: Lacrosse Boots for their support of this podcast episode. 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And if you'd like to check out what 36 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: Lacrosse Boots has to offer you and other white tail 37 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: guys and girls like us, you can head on over 38 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: to Lacross Footwear dot com. All right, welcome back to 39 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by Onyx, 40 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: and for the first time in a pretty decent while, 41 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: we are here for just a good old fashioned Mark 42 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: and Dan bs session. And it feels so good to 43 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: say that no plans, no expectations. I love that because 44 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: the thing for me is I'm always really good at 45 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: under promising and then occasionally over delivering. So I think 46 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: that's that's the game plan for today. So basically what 47 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: you're telling everyone now is you're gonna tell them it's 48 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: a good podcast, but we're gonna weigh under deliver. Yeah, 49 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: like for this probably just jinks the whole thing, but whatever, dude, 50 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: I've been in just a just a tizzy of chaos 51 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: the last couple of days. So I literally ran this 52 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: this is the truth. I literally ran into my house 53 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: just before starting to record this. I ran over to 54 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: my son and kissed him goodnight, hurried over into my 55 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: office and took off my pants. Um, that's it, that's it, yea. 56 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: And it was a prerequisite to take off my pants 57 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: before recording this podcast. So you're sitting there and just 58 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: your underwear. I am just in my underwear for you tonight. 59 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: And I did that for a reason. Though's because I 60 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: was worried that I might get poison ivy on me 61 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: because I was just in the woods all day working 62 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: on tree stands, and I just thought to myself, oh gosh, 63 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: these are probably poison ivvy covered pants. And if you 64 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: sit here recording a podcast, you're gonna be like touching 65 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: your legs and not thinking about it and then touch 66 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: your face. And I can't be having so panci lists 67 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: for poison ivy precautions. Uh. So that's that's my state 68 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: of mind right now. Um, it's a perfect, perfect way 69 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: to start this podcast. Um, what I what I do? 70 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: There are a few things that I did have on 71 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: my list of things I want to make sure we 72 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: did talk about. Really, just two that we have to cover. Um, 73 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: number one, we gotta talk about your elk hunt. And 74 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: number two, we got to talk about my North Dakota 75 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: hunt with Further because last week's podcast, you were out 76 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: hunting the mountains, but me, Spencer and Further did a 77 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: quick one and I was just on my way from 78 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: Montana to North Dakota. But no one knows what's happened since, 79 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: so I gotta give him those updates. But that's that's 80 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: all I got. So otherwise, it is an open highway 81 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: for us to take people to whatever destination. We can 82 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: think of this detour all the way. Yeah, do you 83 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: have any detours you want to start with you or 84 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: you just so pumped up on elk hunting mojo that 85 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: you have to just let it out. Dude, I'm down 86 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: for whatever. You know. Me, I don't. I don't like 87 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: live by the normal rules. You know, every every rule 88 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: I see is basically just kind of a guideline. It's 89 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: not necessarily saying you have to do this. So Mark, Plus, 90 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm I'm just the sidekick right on this podcast. I 91 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: don't make any decisions. You're the one in charge, right. 92 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: You live on the edge, Dan, you are the wild card. 93 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: And then then I'll throw this one at you then, 94 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: because probably nobody cares about anything else except for if 95 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: they haven't been following along in other places. If you 96 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: kill an elk? So did you kill an elk? No, 97 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: we did not kill an elk. But shots were fired, 98 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: shots plural, Well one shot, one shot. So here's here's 99 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: what I'll do. Here's what I'm gonna say. I'll just 100 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: kind of get into the story, right. I want to say, 101 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: because I told you when we talked on the phone 102 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: the other day, I purposely of waited hearing too many 103 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: details because I wanted to hear it now, So I am, 104 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: I am dying to hear. Just just give it to me, 105 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: all right. So here's the deal. So I learned a 106 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: lot on the on the elk hunt. UM that me 107 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: and you went on right, like what to do and 108 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: what not to do. UM. The first thing that we 109 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: did when we got into Colorado. We got into Colorado 110 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: like three in the morning. I went to my buddy 111 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: Adam Par's house, crashed on his couch, got some sleep. 112 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: So that means we woke up Saturday morning. I got 113 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: there like three am Saturday morning. I went there or 114 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: woke up, oh about nine or so, got some coffee, UM, 115 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: went and got some groceries, had to make a couple 116 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: of stops and run some errands in town. UM. And 117 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: then we headed up to the mountains. Right Saturday. We 118 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: got to the mount we got into camp, which a 119 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: lot different than so we stayed on private property, but 120 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: we hunted all public property. And it looked like you 121 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: guys are staying in like a cabin or a house 122 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: or something. A cabin. There was no electricity, There was 123 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: no running water, so we had to bring all of 124 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: our own water, UM, and all of our own food 125 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: and ice and all that stuff. So we slept in 126 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: a cabin. Me and Ryan slept in a cabin. Uh. 127 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: Was this was this specifically because they've heard about your 128 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: tent to boccles and they just they really wanted to 129 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: avoid that. Well, I'm just lucky, and I'll tell you 130 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: as as we get into the story. It's crazy because dude, 131 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: if instead of going back to a tent and sleeping 132 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: on the ground, you get to go to at least 133 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: a mattress in a sleeping bag. Uh, and you're in 134 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: a in a enclosure, not necessarily a tent, it's a 135 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: game changer as far as getting a good night's sleep. 136 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: So um, so that's kind of one thing. But anyway, 137 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: for the for the for the over forty crowd, I 138 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: guess ha ha ha ha. I'm sorry it was up there. 139 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: You had to take it right, yeah, low hanging fruit, 140 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: that's right. So anyway, um, I think the last time 141 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: what just kicked my ass so bad when we went 142 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: was dude, we got we we drove from Iowa to Idaho, 143 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: got out of the truck and went straight up the 144 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: mountain like we were only at the bottom of it 145 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: at your truck for enough time to put our backpacks 146 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: on thirty minutes to get dressed, throw them on and 147 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: get going, get going. So what what I what we 148 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: did this time was we didn't hunt Saturday at all. 149 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: We got to the mountain, We got camp set up 150 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: and I literally started drinking out of a gallon of 151 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: water and I drank and drank and drank, and we 152 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: got acclimated. The camp was at about the cabin was 153 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: at about ten two yep. So we spent the entire 154 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: rest of the evening, um, had a good meal, got 155 00:08:55,640 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: to bed somewhat early, and uh, you know, hydrated and acclimated. 156 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: And I think that that changed the game for the 157 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: entire week because I wasn't suffering as bad as I 158 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: was the last time we went. I mean I felt 159 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: really really good. Yes it was exhausting, and yes it 160 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: was tiring, and yes it was punishing, but it was 161 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: not like defeating, if that makes now. Would you credit 162 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 1: any of that to your change in physical preparation to 163 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: for this one? Yeah, I did a lot of different things. 164 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: Like I for what I did with you was I 165 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: did a lot of like just your regular weightlifting routines 166 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: with some cardio and like and when I mean a 167 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: regular weightlifting routine. I mean, okay, you go to the 168 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: squat rack and you do ten reps, and then you 169 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: go and you do some leg extensions and maybe you 170 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: do ten dead lifts. This I did like a hundred 171 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: dead lifts and so but lighter weight or I did 172 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: a of something. So I just wore the muscles out 173 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: and then I did stare Masters. And one thing that 174 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: I really think helped was my weighted pack hikes. Uh 175 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: and this is for like the entire trip, right, but 176 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: the weighted the weighted pack hikes. I mean because I 177 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: talked to a lot of guys who went out west 178 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: from flat lands like Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Iowa, and they're like, 179 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: nothing can there's no exercise that can prepare you for 180 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: what you're going to do. And the one guy was 181 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: telling me, and the best exercise that I felt, you 182 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: know it worked, was the weighted pack hikes. So I 183 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: did a lot of um putting weight on a pack 184 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: and hiking for like four miles that some of those 185 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: took an hour and a half to maybe two hours, 186 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: and just trying to exhaust the body basically was what 187 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: I was trying to do. And I feel that the furst. 188 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: I mean the first couple of days, man, I felt 189 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: really good compared to you know, as the as the 190 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: week went on, I felt, you know, my leg my 191 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: energy was definitely draining. But we get it hard for 192 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: six straight days. Yeah. Um, well that's good though. And 193 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: when I was seeing what you're doing this summer with 194 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: those hikes, you know, just like you said, nothing but 195 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: hiking with a heavy pack can really replicate that. Um. 196 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 1: And it's so important. It's not the glamour muscles and 197 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 1: those you know, curls and stuff that are going to 198 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: help you in the mountains. It's can you slog up 199 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: a hill all day with a heavy load and just 200 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: keep going and keep going? And I'm glad that helped out. Yeah, 201 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: absolutely helped out. And I'll tell you what, I focus 202 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: so much on my lower part of my body, like 203 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: my legs and cardio that I hardly did any colonels 204 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: or triceps or um the I did do. I did 205 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: do shoulder press um and and a lot of rowing 206 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: machine for the back, but you know, doing the bench press, 207 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: the curls, the triceps, I hardly did any of that 208 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, And now was your wife upset with 209 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: your regiment this time, because it sounds like your glamour 210 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: muscles just worn't up to part them this year for her. 211 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: Is that part of the strategy to keep child number 212 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: four from happening? No, no, no, no, child child number 213 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: three keeps child number four from happening. I don't believe it. 214 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: I won't believe it to like until I hear about 215 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: the procedure. Man, Yeah, you're right. I need I need 216 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: to just do it. I don't know why you haven't. 217 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: I guess I live on the wild side. Mark, you 218 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: live on the edge. You just your tiptoe right on 219 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: the precipice of disaster a time. In order to have 220 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: a baby, you have to have sex. And when three kids, 221 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: it's like that bell curve just goes. Okay, I understand, now, 222 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: we get it. Now we get it. I can tell 223 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: we understand. Okay. So so no sex, lots of exercise, 224 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: though you're you're feeling better at the beginning of this trip, 225 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: continue with this story. So, so, dude, it was day 226 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: one was out of a just out of like videos 227 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: that I've seen and I'm not talking about elk running 228 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: around everywhere. Because we got out of the camp and 229 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: I got introduced to something called dead fall this trip 230 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: and with high winds the Beetle Kill and dude, I'm 231 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: talking about trees stacked on trees, stacked on trees, anything 232 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: from knee high to chin high that you're having to 233 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: climb over or under or around. And what if you're 234 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: walking a straight line on the mountains, let's say should 235 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: take about ten minutes to fifteen minutes. We're talking about 236 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: forty five minutes of dead fall in a quarter mile 237 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: and it's nasty. So you know. Then we dropped down 238 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: to about nine five from Camp tend To. We dropped 239 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: down over the course of about a half mile to 240 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: a creek, walk another half mile up. We're back somewhere 241 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: around ten to. Then we start getting out of the 242 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: creek to these benches where all the elks, SI, aur 243 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: and U. You know. The first setup we heard, we 244 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: hear something. We're like, hey, let's set up here. We 245 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: call this is day one. We call nothing happened. Sorry, 246 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: if I can time out. Did you guys are Adam right? 247 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: Adam Adam? He he knew this area, right, So did 248 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: you guys have like a game plan, like, hey, we're 249 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: gonna go to a place or was it. Heyward's gonna 250 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: walk in this direction and see if we hear anything 251 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: and stop every time we hear What was like, what 252 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: was the game plan as you were doing this hike? Right? 253 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: The game plan was, you know he's he pretty much 254 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: told us the night before and he showed us on 255 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: a map. Hey, we're looking for these these bench types. 256 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: It's where there, you know, we come off a steep 257 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: there's like a steep drop off on the mountain and 258 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: it kind of flattens out and then it gets steep again. 259 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: And these flatter areas are what the elk really seemed 260 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: to congregate on. That's where they seem to bed throughout 261 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: the day. That's their access routes to these meadows where 262 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: they're going and eating grass. Um. So a lot of 263 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: focusing looking at the topographic mac map and trying to 264 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: find these benches where the elk we're at. So he'd 265 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: been out there the past two years, three years, so 266 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: he had a good idea of where where we're heading. Okay, 267 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: so you're heading towards these benches, you're getting there, you 268 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: hear something, you set up? What are you doing? So 269 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: we set up and uh, and Adams like, Okay, who 270 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: who gets first shot. I look at Ryan, I say 271 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: paper rock scissors for first shot. My buddy Ryan came 272 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: with me. It's like, okay, one, two, three shoot, he wins. Okay, 273 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: so he gets first shot. So what he's doing is 274 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: wherever we think the elk are gonna come. Then Ryan 275 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: and then Adam is however far back behind him, kind 276 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: of calling a combination of bugles and cal calls. And 277 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: then I'm off on a flank. So if maybe he 278 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: hits it, I get a secondary follow up shot, or 279 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: if he misses, I get a secondary follow up shot, 280 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: or you know, something along those lines. And you're just hearing, 281 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: you're just hearing like movement, or you actually heard l 282 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: bugling in your direction. You heard movement like cracking come 283 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: like cracking going through the dead fall, right, didn't didn't 284 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: hear any bugles. So nothing happens on the first try. 285 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: And what we're doing is we're working our way up 286 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: the mountain with the wind blowing in our face, the 287 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: thermals coming downhill. And then what the goal is is 288 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: by the time you work your way up, you're to 289 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: a point where the thermal switch for the late morning, 290 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, and then you're coming down you maybe go 291 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: find another meadow and then you work your way down. Right. 292 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: So so we get up to this meadow set up. 293 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: You know, nothing happens. Set up, nothing happens. And we 294 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: heard and then finally, dude, I'm telling you it is 295 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: a life changing event. And I'm not talking about what 296 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: we heard in Colorado where we hear one bugle, um 297 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: probably oh yeah, we didn't heard a crap anile one 298 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: mile away. We heard one bugle. Was I was that 299 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: when I was telling you what it could be like, 300 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: Was I right? Oh dude, it was nuts. I hear 301 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: this bugle across the drainage on another side, which sparked 302 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: another bugle on our side, which sparked another bugle. So 303 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: we heard four elk bugle uh, three in the drainage 304 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: that we were at, and one across the creek in 305 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: and um in the same drainage, so clear across it 306 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: and were I look at my buddy Ryan, I just 307 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: like that's this big smile on my face and like, 308 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: oh my god. And one was close and off to 309 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: where you can hear the chuckle at the end of it, 310 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: and like the a little bit of like the rasp 311 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 1: and like the air and like the yeah, right, yeah, 312 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: So we hear these we hear these bugles. Once close 313 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: enough we can hear the chuckle, and so I'm getting 314 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: fired up. I don't even know what to do. Luckily, 315 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: my buddy Adam there is like he's he's been in 316 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: that situation before. He's like, Okay, we're gonna work our 317 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: way up. We're gonna continue with our plan. And we 318 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: worked our way up to the next meadow. Called, heard 319 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: a couple of bugles, called, heard a couple of bugles, 320 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: And then, which is crazy, the sun came out and 321 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: it's shut off. Right. We kept calling a little bit, 322 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: we kept calling. Nothing shut off. So we climb up 323 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: this meadow and then there's this really steep embankment. But 324 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: at the top of this this incline is a flat bench. 325 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: It's a little open, but what it will allow us 326 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: to do is scan the opposite side of the drainage 327 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: to look to see if any elk are coming out 328 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: on these meadows or if we can see any movement. 329 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: So we climb up. We're sitting. So we started right 330 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: when we got off the creek. We're at ten to 331 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: now we're at eleven one. You know, obviously This is 332 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: a fast version of the story. We pop into a 333 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: couple more meadow, we eat lunch, um, pop into a 334 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: couple more meadows. I had uh some cliff bars and 335 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: then some pack of runs from a company called Heather's Choice. 336 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: What's a pack of room? I don't know. It's like 337 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: this dense protein bar. It's like, uh um, they're really tasty, dude, 338 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: They're they're really tasty. Okay, was it you or was 339 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: it further who brought like nothing but cliff bars for 340 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: like all of their meals except for dinner. Was that you? Yeah? 341 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: That was me on our on Idaho. Oh. I couldn't 342 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: live like that. So you had you had a packer room, 343 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: which sounds like kind of similar though, right, but it's 344 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: way soft. They're really soft. They're like it's like a 345 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: a protein brownie, but but full of all organic stuff. 346 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: So you thumbs up for that, all thumbs up. And 347 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: because we were out of a camp instead of a tent, 348 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: you know, and we had we could drive our vehicles there, 349 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: we were able to bring more food like bananas and 350 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: apples and carrots and stuff like that. So every day 351 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: instead of eating you know, straight cliff bars, I was 352 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: able to have a banana or a apple right there. 353 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: All the other things you mentioned that you think helped you, 354 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: none of them made a difference. It was just the 355 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: fact that you went off of a straight cliff bar diet. 356 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: That's that was what you had wrong last time. Probably, Well, 357 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: I couldn't I couldn't go to the bathroom last time, 358 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: and this time I didn't have problem going to the bathroom, 359 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: and that'll that'll change things absolutely. Okay, So no cliff bars, 360 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: pecaruns and whatever else. Uh so sorry, yeah, water, So 361 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: we chilled here for about forty minutes, you know, we 362 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: catch maybe take a little snooze. And it's kind of 363 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: funny because my my buddy Ryan has this real fancy 364 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: watch and it tells you calories burned in elevation and 365 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: all this stuff, and uh, to get to that point, 366 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: we burnt seventeen hundred calories just in the walk in 367 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: and dude, I'm telling you, over the course of the 368 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: entire trip, we were burning anywhere between five thousand to 369 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: six thousand calories a day. That's pretty that's pretty cool 370 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: to know. And you get back to camp and you're 371 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: you're trying to literally force feed yourself and you can't 372 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: even make it to four thousand calories because you're so full. 373 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, guilt free eating. And and then you wake up, 374 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: you stuff your face with a breakfast until you're almost uncomfortable, 375 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: and you hike and in an hour and a half 376 00:21:55,640 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: you're hungry again. So that was nuts. So anyway back 377 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: to the back to day one, because it's kind of 378 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: the like Day one and day three, we're the kind 379 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: of the most interesting. We get up there. We then 380 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: we kind of hike through this next meadow. We're coming around, 381 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: work our way up, do some calling sequences similar to 382 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: turkey hunting. Right, you're set up, you call, set up call, 383 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: set up call, and uh, hopefully something you know, something 384 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: was would come out. And long story, long story short, 385 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: we turned around, we head down the mountain um and 386 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: as we're heading down the mountain, we had all the 387 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: way back down to where we started in the very 388 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: most bottom meadow and we uh and overcast starts to 389 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: come in, a storm comes in, and then it starts 390 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: raining again, and then something happened in the weather. I 391 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,959 Speaker 1: hate to keep it interrupt to you, Yeah, because you're 392 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: getting momentum here and you're really your story flowing, your 393 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: juices are flown here. But I gotta ask, um, if 394 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: we're comparing and contrasting last trip to this trip, last trip, 395 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: when it starts rain, you would put a black garbage 396 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: bag on, did you did you bring the garbage bag back? 397 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: Or did you real rain here this time? No? No, 398 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: I had a real rain jacket this time. So I 399 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: prepared and it worked and I was happy. Oh man, 400 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: that is one of my greatest memories of all hunting 401 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: trips ever, is looking at you in your parka slash 402 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: garbage bag, just like literally. But I'm telling you, these 403 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: rain storms that we witnessed out in Colorado, they went 404 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: away after fifty minutes, right, it didn't rain all day long. Yeah, 405 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: we had a couple of rough ones. So okay, sorry, 406 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: you're in good rain rain ring. Your's good, it's on check. 407 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm staying dry. We were heading down the mountain and 408 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: as we're heading down the mountain, he lets one one 409 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: bugle and that an elk all the way across the 410 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: drainage on the other side of the creek. Um bugles, 411 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: So we work our way even further down, all the 412 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: way down and uh so we're like, okay, we got 413 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: across the creek. We're gonna get up into the next 414 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 1: drainage and we're gonna go chase that bowl, because that's 415 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: kind of that was our strategy, try to get one 416 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: to bugle and go chase it. Right, So, were you 417 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: kind of doing what you and me had wanted to do, 418 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: I would never have the right opportunity. But basically, hear one, 419 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: you just get as close as you think you can 420 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: and then call if you think you're right in their business. Yep, absolutely, 421 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: and this is where it's good. All right. So we 422 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,719 Speaker 1: were heading down, we're getting right across the creek. We're 423 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: probably about a hund yards from the creek, and there's 424 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: another bugle that just rips off right back from where 425 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: we just came from. And Adam goes, I bet you 426 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: anything that bowl bugled in his bed. So we bugle 427 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: again and he he responds. Again, We bugle again, he responds. 428 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: So we're now we're trying to locate him and if 429 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: he's coming from the exact same spot, right, and he's like, 430 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: let's go, this one's closer, let's go get him. Go 431 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: back up the mountain. We get into and as we're 432 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: as we're getting closer, so like every hundred yards every 433 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: two yards we bugle, and it's coming from the same 434 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: exact spot, and this dark timber is so thick and 435 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: nasty you can't see. You can't even see fifty yards 436 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: in front of you, right, So we're getting really aggressive 437 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: and we're going right straight towards this bugle. And the 438 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: good thing about how this all played out was with 439 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: the cloud cover and a slight drizzle the afternoon, thermals 440 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: were coming down. They weren't going up because it was cooler, 441 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: and the rain kind of was pushing the thermals down. Uh, 442 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: it was kind of it wasn't raining, but it was 443 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: kind of sprinkling. Thermals were going down, and and we 444 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: were getting closer, and we're getting closer, and now now 445 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: we're so close that when he bugles, you can feel it, 446 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: like I'm like, you could feel it in your skin. 447 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: When that high pitch part of the bugle goes, your 448 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: ears just kind of tickle a little bit, like that's 449 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: how close we were. Right. So we get up to 450 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: this spot, and by the grace of God, there is 451 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: an opening right there, right there in the um in 452 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: this dark, thick, dead fall timber, and it's offering a 453 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: shooting lane of like twenty to thirty yards and uh, 454 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: and Adam goes, okay, you set up here, Dan, you 455 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: flank over here, and um, I'm gonna drop back and 456 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: start calling. So Ryan got first shot until he actually 457 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: let an arrow go? Or were you guys eating on 458 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: every setup? Not every setup? First shot? Just like the 459 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: first shot. So we're gonna we're gonna get into position, 460 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: and um the first every time we put Ryan in 461 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: like the first until he got a shot. It was 462 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: Ryan's shot. That was a high stakes game of rock 463 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: paper scissors. I know that could have been the whole trip. 464 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: You might have had him leading off. Yeah, it could 465 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: have been. So did you have any strategy when he 466 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: went into that rock paper sciss or just go with 467 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: your gut? I just I just threw. I didn't even 468 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: think about it, because you think about it and then 469 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: you start messing up. Yeah, but in retrospect, now that 470 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: you lost, do you think you should have approached it 471 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: with any different ideas or tactics? Probably? I don't know. 472 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: I really wasn't thinking about I just I was like, Okay, 473 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,719 Speaker 1: I don't have a quarter in my pocket. Let's think 474 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: of a fairway. A fair way to do this. So 475 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: paper rock scissors one out of one. That's all it was. 476 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: That's that's high stakes. Okay, Yeah, so Ryan's up to bat. 477 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: Ryan's up to bat. I dropped down a little bit lower, 478 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: and I come around to another little clearing that's about 479 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: the size of a small bedroom. I mean, if the 480 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: elk was gonna come my way, it would have, he 481 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,719 Speaker 1: would have I would have shot him at ten yards 482 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: type of deal. So Adam drops back behind Ryan down 483 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: the down the mountain and he starts taking sticks and 484 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: branches and ship and just cracking him and throwing logs 485 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: and beating him and bugling and cow calling, and so 486 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: what he was doing is sounding like he was running 487 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: around gathering up some cows. That's what if I had 488 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: to guess, that's what it sounded like. And every time 489 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: he bugled, and now you know, we've pushed into about 490 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: fifty yards of this elk, right, I can't see him yet. 491 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: We know he's above us, but we can't see him yet. 492 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: And he's hammering these bugles and everyone is just like 493 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: a you know, like just crazy. And I'm telling you man, 494 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: to all the listeners out there, if you ever get 495 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: the opportunity to go on at elk hunt. It's gonna 496 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: be brutal. That just depends on where you go. But 497 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: it's like what we did. It's brutal, it's physical, it's 498 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: it's a mental game. But if you get the opportunity 499 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: to hear an elk bugle as close as we did, 500 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: you will think about it every single day for the 501 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: rest of your life. Dude, I'm telling you, it was 502 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: a life changing event. It's it's so awesome, and right there, 503 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: right in the middle of dance story, I'm gonna stop 504 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: us and take a quick break to think. Our partners 505 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: at Onyx, they're the makers of the Onyx Hunt app, 506 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: which I've been mentioning each week for a while now, 507 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: and I've been using each week for a while now. 508 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: Now the hunting seas is kicked off, that's just gonna continue. 509 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: I was using in Montana, as I told you about, 510 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: while I was actually going in and out hunting and 511 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: when I was tracking that buck. I'm going to be 512 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: using it next week when I'm going to hunt elk 513 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: in Montana. I'll be using it two weeks after that 514 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: when I kick off my white tail season here in 515 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: Michigan hunting. This new property I've got permission on and 516 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: my main holy field property tracking, different stand locations, tracking 517 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: in and out access routes, all that kind of stuff. 518 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: When I head up to Minnesota the Boundary waters Hunt, 519 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: I'll be using it then a ton leading up to 520 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: that as I'm still trying to figure out where the 521 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: heck to go. That's a story for another day. But 522 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: long story, short on this is that app is a 523 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: great tool to use on your phone or your computer, 524 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: wherever you might be. It's got top all maps, it's 525 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: got aerial maps, it has property information, property owner information, 526 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: it has public land parcel borders and information. You can 527 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: mark your locations, you can mark your tracks, you can 528 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: measure distances, you can measure areas. I could go on 529 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: and on, needless to say, it's something worth checking out 530 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: if you're interested in getting a membership or downloading some 531 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: of their specific state maps. You can't get off using 532 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: the promo code wired that's w I R E D. 533 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: And you can get the Onyx Hunt app at your 534 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: favorite mobile store, where you can learn more over at 535 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: onyx maps dot com. So anyway, I'm so I hear 536 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: some cracking, like so like he's up on his feet 537 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: now or something. So I dropped. I kind of dropped 538 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: down a little bit. So I'm way low and I'm 539 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: trying to look under this dead fall, so I can't 540 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: see Ryan anymore. But every time, every time Adam bugles 541 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: or calls, this bowl is responding and he's bugling again, 542 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: and like I said, it's a glorious thing. So so 543 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: as Adams calling the next bugle sounded like it was 544 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: further away, maybe he stood up or turned around, so 545 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: I thought, oh my god, this you know, there's a 546 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: herd of cows or something and he's heading heading off 547 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: with the cows or whatever. And just as I thought that, 548 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: Adam did one hell of a calling sequence, like break 549 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: some sticks and break the tree and made a bugle 550 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: and some cow calls, and he turned around and now 551 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: I could look up and I could see the tops 552 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: of his antlers. He was really close, still still responding 553 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: with every bugle that h Ryan or excuse me that 554 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: to Adam set out and I can see his the 555 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: tops of his antlers. I could see part of his head, 556 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: but that was it. And he's like he swaying them 557 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: back and forth, almost like a moose does. It was weird. 558 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:37,959 Speaker 1: He just like really really uh, I don't know, like 559 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: he was showing off to somebody almost yeah. Um, from 560 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: what I could see, like every elk is huge to me, 561 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's and and plus it 562 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: was really thick and nasty, so it's not like I 563 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: had a perfect clear shot at him. So and then 564 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: I could hear him stomping and pollen, so it was 565 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: almost like he was freaking pissed, really really piste off. 566 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: And something happened and all of a sudden, he just 567 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: committed and it sounded like a car being pushed through 568 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: the woods through the timber, just cracking and coming through. 569 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: It wasn't even like he was trying to go around 570 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: anything but straight through it. And then there was this 571 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: moment of silence and I heard and I I knew 572 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: that what that sound was, and that was Ryan uh 573 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: letting an arrow go. Yeah, And so I put my 574 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: arrow back quick in my quiver. I run up and 575 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: there I see Ryan like looking back at me like 576 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: he just seen a ghost type of deal, you know, 577 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: like because he killed he killed an elk before, like 578 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: six years ago with a rifle on a private ranch 579 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: something you know, almost like shooting fishing a barrel type 580 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: of thing, and he and Ryan was like, I hit him. 581 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: I hit him. I'm like, did you hit him? Did 582 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: you like I hit him? I hit him? And so 583 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: we we we just kind of wait for Adam to 584 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: come up, because Adam didn't know what happened. And I said, 585 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: what which way did he run? He's like, he ran 586 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: that way. But then I lost him. And remember this 587 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: is some of the thickest, nastiest ship that I've ever witnessed, right, 588 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: and so if you walk fifty yards ahead of someone, 589 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: you're lost. So we I start whistling for Adam. Adam 590 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 1: comes up, We kind of gather ourselves. We say, okay, 591 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 1: where did you Where do you think you hit him? 592 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: And Ryan goes, I think I hit him a little 593 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: forward but high um to where I think I got 594 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: high long. And I'm like, dude, if you got high long, man, 595 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: we're in business, man, We're in business. And so we 596 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: wait just like two minutes, three minutes, and then we 597 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: start making our way to the impact where and this 598 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 1: this was inside twenty yards where he had this shot, 599 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: so probably closer to fifteen if I had to guess. 600 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 1: But he hit him just a little bit high, he 601 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: thought because I didn't I wasn't able to see the 602 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: shot or the impact. Um. At once this once this 603 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: elk came down the side of the mountain towards Ryan. 604 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: I lost all all side of him and it was 605 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: just my hearing from then on. And so we we 606 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: kind of looking. We're looking on the ground. Nothing, We're 607 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: looking on, you know, for some stumps. Nothing, and then 608 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: Ryan finds a zero and it's broken off and total penetration. 609 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 1: And this is generous, probably about four inches maybe less. 610 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: So what we're thinking is we hit the shoulder and 611 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: he was shooting a mechanical broadhead and it it hit 612 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 1: it and it just stopped basically through the meat of 613 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: the front shoulder, hit the hit the bone and just 614 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: stopped right there. But we did our due diligence and 615 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 1: we we we grid searched for minutes. No blood, no 616 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 1: unturned like upturned soil or anything from where we could 617 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: see him running. And long story short, that was the uh. 618 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: That was Ryan's first archery shot at a at an elk. 619 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: And um, there's nothing you say to a guy after that. 620 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: You know, I could have sat there and be like, hey, sport, 621 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: it's gonna be okay. You know, keep your head up 622 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: ship like that. It's like you had an opportunity like 623 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: that and he you just it didn't it didn't happen, right, So, 624 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: so so we're talking about We're like, Ryan, what do 625 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: you think this? What do you think this bowl? How 626 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: big was he? And Ryan goes, I don't. I don't 627 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: know too much about ELK, but I'm staying somewhere between 628 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 1: two fifty and three. And then he starts to describe 629 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: the characteristics and he said, all I know is I 630 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: saw the end of one of his and they I 631 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: guess they call him a whale tail. The whale tail, 632 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: so I guess the whale tail is something that's predominant 633 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: on six by six is so Adam thinks it was 634 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 1: bigger than that. Um so maybe I don't know between 635 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: three class bowl. So and from what I saw it 636 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 1: it was it wasn't like hugely wide, but they were 637 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: really tall from what I can see, or well kind 638 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: of they flare back, I don't know. So from what 639 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: I could see, so it was it was a good 640 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: decent bowl and it just didn't happen. Sounds like a 641 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: very exciting day, but that is that is the ultimate bummer. Yeah, absolutely. 642 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: Now here's something that I was I knew I wasn't 643 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: necessarily a shooter, but there was a chance that if 644 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 1: this elp came around the other way, I would have 645 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: had a shot on him. And for some reason, I 646 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: was not fire it up like I would have been 647 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: if I was deer hunting for some reason, like when 648 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: that when that deer shows up and and you're I 649 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: don't know, you're already you're you get buck fever, I guess, 650 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: or you get that huge adrenaline dump like I know 651 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen, and I know I'm drawn back. I 652 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: didn't get that. I was really clear, and that was 653 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: strange to me. Do you think that was more because 654 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: of the scenario, you know, outcutting different species, different place, 655 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: or was it more because you knew that you were 656 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: runner up? Well? I think a lot. I think a 657 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: lot of it has has to do with I think 658 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: for for deer hunting, you have a real low heart 659 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: rate and then it goes to a real high heart rate. 660 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: My heart rate was already up right from climbing up 661 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: the mountain, so it's not like if I had an 662 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: adrenaline rushed my heart was gonna do anything more than 663 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: what it was already doing, you know what I mean. 664 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 1: So I don't know. I just I was clear, I 665 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: was ready, and I was focused. So that's nuts. I 666 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: thought I was gonna be like losing my ship. Yeah, 667 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: now that doesn't mean you couldn't lose your ship litter 668 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: in the trip, possibly, right right right, So tell me 669 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 1: what happens next. I'm gonna fast forward today three alright, 670 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: So day two we go back to the same area. 671 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: We hear two bugles, We chase them, nothing happens. We 672 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: have an encounter with a calf. Uh, nobody takes a 673 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: shot at it, just because you know, I mean, in 674 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: in light of what just happened the day before, we 675 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 1: felt like we had hit something right right, and then 676 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: Adam had to head back into town, uh, to his 677 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: house to meet someone for get internet set up in 678 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: his new house. So me and Ryan were kind of 679 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: on our own. We had our on X maps, we were, 680 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 1: you know, looking at where we needed to go. Oh 681 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,959 Speaker 1: my god. We had a hike that went from ten 682 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 1: to eleven one and it was straight up and it 683 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: was literally one of the most punishing things and growing 684 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 1: things I have ever physically done in my entire life. Period. 685 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 1: I I don't know how many calories reburned, but it 686 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: was I mean, I was losing my mind, climbing this 687 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: like mental failure, getting mad, getting angry because we were 688 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: going up the same dead fall, but we were up 689 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: the same deadfall, but we were going at like a 690 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 1: forty degree angle. Do you think this this one sucked? 691 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: This watch that Ryan had that told you your exact elevation, 692 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: do you think that was a blessing or curse? Because 693 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: I could see it being a little scary or a 694 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: little bit. Uh. Every time you actually look at that number, like, 695 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 1: oh god, we've gone seven, we've gonet that much. Did 696 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: that make misery more exaggerated? Uh? Not necessarily, because I 697 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't ask him until we were done with the punishment, right, 698 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: I ever asked before, because whenever Adam said, hey, we 699 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: just gotta pop up this ridge, like that's what someone 700 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: who lives out there says. Uh. If I was up 701 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: there and I was going to tell somebody what we 702 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: had to do, I would look at him straight in 703 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: the face and I would say, I'm going to try 704 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: to kill you right now. So that's what that punishment 705 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: was like. And we um, you know, we went back 706 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: down the mountain. Uh we he went, he went home. 707 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: We went kind of up a little bit up to 708 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: a different drainage, worked our way down and uh man, 709 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: I was beat after that day. Got up the next morning, 710 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: got into the truck and we went to a completely 711 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 1: different part of the mountain and we walked into this 712 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 1: little secluded drainage slash meadow and it was one of 713 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: the most beautiful things. Like the sun's coming up over 714 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: the mountains and it's just beautiful, a light, there's some 715 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: clouds the air, no bugles, but and this is a 716 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: learning experience for me, and it's something that I made 717 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: a mistake one time during this trip, and I didn't 718 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 1: make it again. So you hike in and just your 719 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 1: bass layers because you're sweating balls by the time you 720 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: get to where you went. And I felt, hey, I'm 721 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: still gonna be hot in twenty minutes or ten minutes. 722 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna sit here in my bass layers. And 723 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,760 Speaker 1: while Adams drops back, you know, drops back and calls, 724 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: and I'm so now I'm up to bat first, right, 725 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: So I get the I guess what you would call 726 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: the favor favorable position, and we're looking across this drainage 727 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, thirty yards from where I'm sitting 728 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: to the opposite side, so it was kind of steep 729 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 1: on both sides, so if something came out, you could 730 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: you could shoot across the drainage at it. And I 731 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 1: set up and I started getting cold, and my backpacks 732 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 1: behind a tree, so I get out, and as I 733 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: stand up and turn around, I hear something on the 734 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: other side take off and run away. And I'm just like, 735 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 1: I just screwed up, like a potential opportunity, because you know, 736 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 1: we could hear elk across the drainage, like just working 737 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 1: around in there, walking back and forth and stuff. And 738 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: then I started shivering because I was cold, so I 739 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 1: needed to go get some more layers on. So I 740 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 1: stood up and walked around the tree and there must 741 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,240 Speaker 1: have been something close on the other side that busted 742 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,800 Speaker 1: me and it took off running fast. Forward about twenty 743 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: more minutes and we all meet up back behind these trees, 744 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, we hear something run off 745 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: and we look and it's a cow had stuck up 746 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: behind us. So our bows are all down on the 747 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 1: ground and Ryan goes, oh, man, there's another there's another 748 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: cow coming right at us. And it wasn't a cow, 749 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: it was a bull. And if I thought that the 750 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 1: bull on day one was huge, you could have put 751 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: that bowls rack into this bulls rack. It was. And 752 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: I feel I don't know shit about scoring, and I 753 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: don't know anything, so I'm not going to try to 754 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: say a score. But I've watched in my day a 755 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: lot of YouTube videos and stuff, and I would put 756 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,359 Speaker 1: this elk up there with any other elk I've seen 757 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: on TV. Uh. Just gigantic. And it it came in 758 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: silent behind us, and we looked and I grabbed my 759 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 1: bow and knock an arrow and I'm getting ready to 760 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 1: draw and it runs away. It wasn't like I had 761 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 1: a shot anyway, but it was one of those things 762 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: where it's just like I got to see it. It's 763 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: like it made eye contact with me. Was it was 764 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 1: mind blowing lee huge. And again I'm from Iowa. I've 765 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,919 Speaker 1: seen now at this point in my life, I've seen 766 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: two bowl elk somewhat close right in real life. So 767 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 1: it could have been a three inch and the other 768 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: one could have been a you know, a two fifty, 769 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 1: but I know it was big and I was just 770 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: jacked up about it, and like, so if that, if 771 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: if it ended right there, I would call that a 772 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: successful trip. But we had we had five more days 773 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 1: to go. Unfortunately, this is where everything slows down, not 774 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:24,800 Speaker 1: another bugle. It got warm and the weather turned nice, 775 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: and we bounced around every day and every day was 776 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: just basically hiking and setting up on fresh sign and 777 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,760 Speaker 1: doing our due diligence and grinding and grinding and grinding, 778 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: and unfortunately nothing happened. Yeah, it sounds like a pretty 779 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: awesome trip though, those first few days, like you just said, 780 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 1: makes for them for success, right right. I'm telling you, 781 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, I will go elk hunting 782 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 1: every year for the rest of my life. Yeah. It 783 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: gets in your blood. Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's fun. And 784 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: it was not only the hardest thing I've ever had 785 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:10,360 Speaker 1: to do physically, but like I was better prepared mentally 786 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 1: for this time because I remembered what that punishment breathing 787 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: was like. So it was like I had time to 788 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: prepare for So it's like I knew what I was 789 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 1: getting into. Yeah. That helps that helps a lot. So 790 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: long story short, dude, that's my that's my Colorado trip 791 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 1: in a nutshell. It was long, but I'm glad that 792 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: you've got that experience, though I felt so bad after 793 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 1: our trip. I've been talking it up so much and 794 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 1: telling me about how the year before was nuts and 795 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,959 Speaker 1: having those moments like you described, and it obviously didn't 796 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 1: pan out for us on that one, but now you know, yeah, 797 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 1: now you know it was nuts, dude. And I just 798 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 1: it's one of those things where I've said it before 799 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: and I'll say it again. I wish everybody has the 800 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 1: opportunity to experience something like that, because white tail hunting 801 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 1: is one thing, but when you have eight hundred pound animal, 802 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: nine pound animal running around making the loudest noises you've 803 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: ever heard, it's an experience in itself. Dude. Yeah, I'm 804 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 1: glad we're having this conversation because I leave for an 805 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: elk hunt next week. And I mean, I wasn't I'm 806 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 1: not even really, at least not until now. I haven't 807 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 1: been the extcited about it. I've been looking forward to 808 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 1: whitetail stuff in October. I'm like playing all this stuff 809 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 1: out and and I'm kind of overtraveled a little bit, 810 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,839 Speaker 1: so just kind of burnt out and kind of just 811 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 1: wanted to spend some family time. You know, I was 812 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 1: gone for the last eleven days and I'm home for 813 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: like six, and I've just been thinking, Man, I wish 814 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 1: I didn't schedule this trip right after that. I really 815 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 1: would just like, you know, two, three, four weeks at 816 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 1: home instead of six days. But um, all that aside, 817 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 1: you did give me a new bump of excitement for 818 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: that that bugle and that bugle and fest that hopefully 819 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 1: I'll be experiencing here next week. So thank you for that. 820 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 1: I'll tell you though, it was tough. You know, I 821 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: hadn't been on a big, big trip like this, Like 822 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 1: I've been to the A T a show that's like 823 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 1: basically a three day event. But I was gone a 824 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: total of let's see, I left on the thirty first 825 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,439 Speaker 1: and I got back on the it would have been 826 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 1: the eight So I was gone eight days from my family, 827 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: and it's it sucked. I mean, I'm not gonna lie 828 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: at man. I didn't. I wouldn't say I got homesick, 829 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,320 Speaker 1: but I missed my kids and I missed my wife. 830 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 1: So being able to come home and see them again 831 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 1: was that's very enjoyable. Yeah, yeah, I could definitely relate 832 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: to you more on that now on this trip, and 833 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: definitely was feeling that it was different knowing that Everett 834 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 1: was back home and not, you know, just not being 835 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: a part of the daily life with him. And I 836 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 1: loved getting pictures and videos and stuff that my wife 837 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 1: was sending. But then that also is just like I 838 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 1: just want to be there. Um. So it's definitely different, 839 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,320 Speaker 1: and and like I said, I'm not looking forward to 840 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 1: leaving again right away. But but that's my elk hunt. 841 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: I want to know a little bit about this North 842 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 1: Dakota trip because you were obviously your successful in Montana 843 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: and you crossed the border. What happened? Yeah, so I 844 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 1: had that great hunt in Montana. And sorry that we're 845 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 1: not getting to talk about it at all, um, but 846 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: you know we already talked about with further and Spencer. 847 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 1: Anything you need to know that you don't know about 848 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 1: that that we should cover in two minutes. Here, are 849 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 1: you good? Well, I'll just ask you for the coordinates 850 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 1: after recording. Yeah, how much you got in your savings account, dance. 851 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:41,359 Speaker 1: We might be able to negotiate something, okay, we will 852 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,799 Speaker 1: not be able to negotiate something, okay. So I killed 853 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 1: my Blucome Montana. Um, I'm driving towards North Dakota on 854 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 1: that first day and I actually get kind of sick 855 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,400 Speaker 1: in the car. Or maybe maybe it was more that 856 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 1: was really exhausted. Um, I think at that point I 857 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: was just not feeling great. He end I had to 858 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 1: get a podcast up and do all this kind of 859 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 1: stuff and long story shore, I'm like, you know what, 860 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get to camp tonight. I'm just gonna 861 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 1: get in a hotel room. I'm gonna get this work done. 862 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna shower. You know, it's all bloody and gross 863 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 1: after having gutted and recovered that deer that day. So yeah, 864 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,320 Speaker 1: I get to the hotel room, ended up like getting 865 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 1: like nauseous and horrible headache and like pass out like 866 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 1: eight thirty that night in the hotel. Next day, get up, 867 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 1: get some more work done, start driving in North Dakota. 868 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 1: I don't end up getting to our spot in North 869 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 1: Dakota util that evening at like six o'clock in the evening, 870 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,400 Speaker 1: so I can't hunt that night. Um, Josh is out hunting. 871 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 1: So I decided I'm just gonna get out there and 872 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,280 Speaker 1: get up on one of these big bluffs that overlooks 873 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 1: this river bottom that we're hunting, and see what I 874 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 1: could see, just try to get eyes on something. Because 875 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 1: Josh had been there hunting for three days and up 876 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,279 Speaker 1: to this point he had not seen hardly anything. He 877 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,799 Speaker 1: had seen I think one year and a half old 878 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 1: buck and a handful of dose every day. And he 879 00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 1: then had been he had been up on the on 880 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 1: the hills glassing in them warnings, trying to see, like 881 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,839 Speaker 1: we're all these deer and was not seeing the number 882 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,880 Speaker 1: of deer that we were expecting. But he was seeing 883 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 1: some other hunters. Um, there was there wasn't any other 884 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: white tail hunters, but there was guys out there chasing 885 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, other western species, mules whatever. Um. Now, Charlie interrupt, 886 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: but this is the same area that you guys went 887 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,439 Speaker 1: shed hunting at the spring. Yes, we found we found 888 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,360 Speaker 1: a good number of sheds in there, and we scouted 889 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 1: it and we saw a good sign um. So it 890 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 1: looked really good, like we had really high hopes for 891 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 1: the spot. Um. But Josh's time there was not showing 892 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 1: anything good. I show up, I sit in this butte 893 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 1: I started glassing. I don't see crap. I just see 894 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: a couple of does, and I can see like a 895 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 1: mile in either direction. I mean, I can cover a 896 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 1: big chunk of ground that there. You should be seeing 897 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 1: deer coming out crossing this river, coming out into some 898 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,400 Speaker 1: of these openings, moving in around the Cottonwood groves. Nothing, 899 00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,439 Speaker 1: so that's concerning. That night, we regrouped. Josh hardly saw 900 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,839 Speaker 1: anything again that night. The next morning I'm like, all right, well, 901 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 1: I'm not just gonna go sit blindly in an area 902 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,279 Speaker 1: where we're not seeing anything. We need to we need 903 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 1: to keep learning, we need to find these deers. So 904 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 1: the next morning again I go to another spot, try 905 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 1: to glass that again, don't see anything. So after like 906 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 1: an hour, I screwed out of there and I start 907 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 1: driving rhads trying to see are there any deer in 908 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 1: any these Are there some private land fields that are 909 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 1: pulling all the deer? What's going on? Drive around, drive around, 910 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 1: hardly anything at all. So we get back to camp. 911 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 1: Now this is like Josh's day four, I think, and 912 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, we're kind of at a loss. He's not 913 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 1: seeing a deer. These two scouting sessions are showing really 914 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 1: really poor numbers. Still haven't seen a single mature buck 915 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 1: and we're down to two days left too, and hap 916 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 1: days left or whatever. Um So, finally that you know, 917 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,360 Speaker 1: we're sitting there midday and I kind of had this 918 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,440 Speaker 1: idea pop in my head. You know, why, what are 919 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 1: we doing in this kind of area. It's not like 920 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 1: hunting in Michigan or Aisole where there's tons of cover 921 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,919 Speaker 1: and you obviously wouldn't see these but sucks if there 922 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 1: were deer in this area. I was pretty confident that 923 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,720 Speaker 1: we should see some side of them, like there should 924 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 1: be deer moving. There's not down on the river bottoms. 925 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 1: There weren't a bunch of hunters, so I didn't think 926 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 1: these deer were crazy over pressured if they were in there. 927 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:19,400 Speaker 1: Um So I throughout the ideas. Okay, we instead of 928 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 1: wasting our time here where we've not gotten a single 929 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 1: indication of there being a deer we actually want to 930 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 1: hunt and shoot. Over the last four or five days 931 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,879 Speaker 1: or whatever however long Josh had been there, plus since 932 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 1: I was there, what if we relocate, What if we 933 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,840 Speaker 1: spend Yeah, we're sacrificing some sits, but what if we 934 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,799 Speaker 1: just keep looking until we actually find a deer we 935 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 1: want to shoot and then make a move on those deer. 936 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,920 Speaker 1: Right now, we're not seeing anything that there really is 937 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 1: indicative of of worthwhile time spend the treats, you know, 938 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 1: actually trying to fill tagg at least. So I had 939 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 1: seen some other public land a couple hours north of here. 940 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 1: Then it looked really good in the maps in the past. 941 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,879 Speaker 1: I've never been there, but it looked good, and there 942 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 1: was a lot of food. It looked like food sources 943 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,120 Speaker 1: fields that was on the public land. Or jay us 944 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 1: into that public land. I thought, you know, that's that's 945 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 1: the kind of stuff that's kind of give me this 946 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 1: time year. At least it is like a much more 947 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 1: sure sign um than what we had here. There was 948 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 1: no food by where we're hunting in this spot. Um, 949 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 1: So I thought, let's go back to the well. I know, 950 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 1: this is like a tried and true strategy that's worked 951 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,320 Speaker 1: for me. It worked for me in Montana. Find public 952 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 1: land betting that's close to private land food, get up 953 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 1: in there, um and and try to get eyes on 954 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 1: something that says, yes, there are deer here, and then 955 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 1: hunt the public behind him. So so, after mulling it 956 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 1: over for a little bit, we finally decided, you know, 957 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,800 Speaker 1: let's swing for the fences. Let's try it, and we 958 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,880 Speaker 1: would only have we were going to drive up there 959 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 1: that night and have that night and the next morning 960 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,360 Speaker 1: to do some scouting, and then we would hunt the 961 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,240 Speaker 1: next night and next morning, and then we had to go. Yeah, 962 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,440 Speaker 1: so we do the drive, We get up there, we 963 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,719 Speaker 1: have an hour to drive around that night, drive around 964 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 1: the back roads around this public land. It looks really good, 965 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,759 Speaker 1: and I end up finding a field with a whole 966 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,279 Speaker 1: bunch of deer in it that's on public land. And 967 00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,120 Speaker 1: I get my spotting scope out and I see a 968 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 1: couple pretty bus that possibly would be a shooter for me, 969 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 1: for sure be a shooter for josh Um. So I'm like, 970 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 1: all right, bingo, this is exactly what I wanted to see. 971 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:13,840 Speaker 1: We've got a huntable area with huntable deer um, and 972 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,879 Speaker 1: you know, you know, we've actually got something to work 973 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 1: with here versus what we had before. So I felt 974 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,840 Speaker 1: great about that. The next day we went in, scouted 975 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,919 Speaker 1: another area in the morning, and hung stands midday for 976 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 1: the next morning. Really cool stuff. But the most interesting 977 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,560 Speaker 1: and important stuff happened that night. We go and sneak 978 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,319 Speaker 1: into that spot where I saw those bucks. We had 979 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,279 Speaker 1: a pretty good wind, what looked like it's gonna be 980 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,239 Speaker 1: pretty good wind for this spot. I had seen most 981 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:39,960 Speaker 1: of this deer come out of kind of this inside 982 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,720 Speaker 1: corner of this field, and and they're feeding out within 983 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 1: sight of a road in daylight, which was interesting. I mean, 984 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 1: it told me that they weren't getting hunted. So I 985 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 1: felt pretty good about our chances going into the next day. 986 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,240 Speaker 1: They probably do something pretty similar, since they didn't seem 987 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,719 Speaker 1: like they were, you know, particularly worried about hunters, and 988 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,800 Speaker 1: this was almost a weekend to the season there. Um, 989 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,160 Speaker 1: So I put Josh. I told Josh, you know, if 990 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,360 Speaker 1: you want, I'd probably recommend the best spout would be 991 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 1: the inside corner whemost those deer came out, so he 992 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 1: snuck in there with a stand. I went to another 993 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 1: area farther down the field where I had seen some 994 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,800 Speaker 1: of these deer feeding. There weren't any trees, there's grass 995 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 1: and brush. Um, but I thought, I'll just tuck in 996 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,800 Speaker 1: that brush, sit in the ground, and hopefully watch Josh 997 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 1: you a deer if something gets past him, or if 998 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 1: something pops on a different spot, I'll back clean up 999 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,960 Speaker 1: down here. And the basically gist of that night is 1000 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 1: that it went almost exactly like I thought it was 1001 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,760 Speaker 1: going to. These deer started popping out in that field 1002 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 1: really early, like two or three hours before dark. They 1003 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,840 Speaker 1: were very comfortable. Um. It seemed like the main thing 1004 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 1: they were feeding in this field there's some kind of 1005 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 1: weed that I'm not familiar with, though it was, but 1006 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,399 Speaker 1: it looks like they had also just planted some kind 1007 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,360 Speaker 1: of cover crop, maybe turnips or radishes or something that 1008 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,960 Speaker 1: were just starting to come out of the ground. And um, 1009 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 1: I think that was probably what they're feeding on, because 1010 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 1: I know, you know, those those fresh turnip greens or 1011 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 1: ratis screens or whatever, that stuff sometimes can be really 1012 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 1: attractive right now, Um, so I think that's what they're 1013 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,279 Speaker 1: keying in on. These deers start piling out. We've seen 1014 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 1: a bunch of does. I have a buck come out 1015 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 1: close to me that it's like a nice two year old. 1016 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 1: He's feeding around, and then that wind shifts completely around 1017 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 1: like on a dime, spins around, blows right back into 1018 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,480 Speaker 1: the cover that we're thinking all these deer better than 1019 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 1: all these deers start spooking. I'm here deer blowing behind me. 1020 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,720 Speaker 1: There was a buck that circled around me. He disappears. 1021 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,920 Speaker 1: The deer that were out in the field near Josh 1022 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,280 Speaker 1: went and go taken off, and we're sitting there with 1023 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 1: like an hour of daylight left, just defeated, Like, man, 1024 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 1: this was setting up perfect. We had made this, you know, 1025 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 1: we took this risk, we got to this new spot. 1026 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 1: It was working out perfectly. I was thinking like, oh man, 1027 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:51,040 Speaker 1: this is amazing. It's gonna work out. And the wind 1028 00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:56,439 Speaker 1: kind of ruined it. But as daylight continues, somehow more 1029 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 1: deer start showing up now with the new wind even 1030 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 1: and here comes a buck. Here comes a buck. Here 1031 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 1: comes six does, here comes eight does? Here comes another buck. 1032 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 1: And while there's this like decent ish buck kind of 1033 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,280 Speaker 1: near me that I'm watching, I get a text from 1034 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 1: Josh saying, I gotta shoot her. It sixty yards or 1035 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,560 Speaker 1: something I can't get a shot at, you know, really nice. 1036 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,800 Speaker 1: What was at least a three year old maybe older 1037 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,439 Speaker 1: buck had come out just out of range from fifty 1038 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,400 Speaker 1: yards out in front of him, but you know, passing 1039 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 1: through some thick stuff and then moved out into the 1040 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,440 Speaker 1: field at like sixty or seventy. I think it was 1041 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 1: a big eight pointer, but a split brow time I think, 1042 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,120 Speaker 1: is what he said. And so he had that big 1043 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,120 Speaker 1: buck up in front of like sixty yards for a 1044 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,360 Speaker 1: long time, never came any closer. He started moving off 1045 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 1: than another nice buck came popping out, but at seventy um, 1046 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,120 Speaker 1: so we found this little honey hoole spot Josh was 1047 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,200 Speaker 1: just you know, ten fifteen yards off where you know 1048 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,919 Speaker 1: it would have worked out. He got some serious buck fever. 1049 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,439 Speaker 1: He had a you know, like an awesome and adrenalin rush. 1050 00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:58,920 Speaker 1: He was telling me about it afterwards that you know 1051 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 1: that that's an awesome feeling to get that first buck 1052 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 1: fever of the year. Um. So it made the trip 1053 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 1: all worth it, I think, just with that, like just 1054 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 1: to have a fun encounter, just so you could see 1055 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 1: some deer, because it had been really slow going from 1056 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 1: up to that point. So I felt really good about 1057 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:14,440 Speaker 1: it because you know, I just wanted him to have 1058 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 1: a good time. At this point, I was feeling, you know, 1059 00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,920 Speaker 1: it was all gravy for me. Society already filled my tag. 1060 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 1: But that was a fun night close encounters. Next morning, 1061 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 1: we went into this spot that we had hunted, that 1062 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,360 Speaker 1: we had set up the day before, and this was 1063 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,000 Speaker 1: again this was like a we're just swinging for the fences. 1064 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 1: We knew it's early season, we've never been here before, 1065 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,360 Speaker 1: but we decided we we would almost try like a 1066 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,840 Speaker 1: bumping dump type thing. We're just gonna plow right into 1067 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 1: the thickest best looking like betting, knowing that we're gonna 1068 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 1: blow anything out of there as we go into there, 1069 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 1: set the stand and just pray that maybe we could 1070 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,160 Speaker 1: catch them coming back the very next morning, the one 1071 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 1: time they come back in before getting all you know, 1072 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:56,160 Speaker 1: boogered out of there. Um. It did not work, but 1073 00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 1: there weren't many better options for that morning set, so 1074 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 1: we tried that. That That didn't working, and that was it. 1075 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,400 Speaker 1: That was the North Dakota trip. It was, you know, 1076 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 1: a day of it was me recovering, a day of 1077 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,960 Speaker 1: it was almost two days it was scouting around trying 1078 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 1: to find here, and then a day and a half 1079 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:16,479 Speaker 1: of it was actually hunting. But I'm glad we I'm 1080 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,240 Speaker 1: glad that we spent more time to find those deer 1081 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,640 Speaker 1: versus sitting in a tree and seeing a dough and 1082 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 1: night in the same spot where we were before, just 1083 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,960 Speaker 1: because we didn't want to try something new. So it 1084 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,440 Speaker 1: was cool, you know, it was cool. Just to be 1085 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,880 Speaker 1: out there, and that was that first kind of trip 1086 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 1: for for further um. So I think he learned a 1087 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:35,640 Speaker 1: lot from it, and I think it was just a 1088 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 1: good experience for him too. And wait, a good time. 1089 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,600 Speaker 1: So that was North Dakota and I got back here 1090 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 1: to Michigan and just trying to get a bunch of 1091 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 1: stuff done here in my six days. I've got before 1092 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:52,120 Speaker 1: the elk hunt, um that archery yep archery Montana, and 1093 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 1: before I continue discussing my last few things I've been 1094 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,240 Speaker 1: up to here in Michigan before that Montana trip, I 1095 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,920 Speaker 1: want to quit break for our last break of this episode, 1096 01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:07,919 Speaker 1: to hear from our friends at White Tail Properties. This week. 1097 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 1: With white Tail Properties, we are drawn by Jeff Probes 1098 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,400 Speaker 1: and lands Specialists out of Missouri, and Jeff is going 1099 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,760 Speaker 1: to be talking to us about getting started filming your 1100 01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 1: own hunts. Well, I've filmed personally, my son and I 1101 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,320 Speaker 1: did for a long time. I was involved in it 1102 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,600 Speaker 1: for over twenty years. My son and I filmed together 1103 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,840 Speaker 1: for about fifteen years and uh pretty much retired from 1104 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 1: it now. But I guess the first thing is is 1105 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 1: don't skimp, skimp on your equipment. If you're wanting to, 1106 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 1: particularly if you're wanting to try to do something on 1107 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:42,960 Speaker 1: a professional level, get good quality equipment, obviously high definition cameras. 1108 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,560 Speaker 1: The cameras have changed so much since we were in it. 1109 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 1: I mean they've got these small little handheld cameras now 1110 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,760 Speaker 1: that take just about as good a quality footage as 1111 01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 1: the old big cameras we used to carry. And um, 1112 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,200 Speaker 1: you know, get good quality footage and get a good mike. 1113 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 1: Don't go with an onboard mic on this on the 1114 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,760 Speaker 1: cameras that come with the buy a shotgun mike of 1115 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,880 Speaker 1: good quality. Spend the money, do it right. Use a 1116 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,360 Speaker 1: tree arm when you're in a tree to get nice, smooth, 1117 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,919 Speaker 1: steady pans. And when you're on the ground if it's 1118 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,320 Speaker 1: if it's feasibly, use a tripod. Just keep your footage 1119 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,240 Speaker 1: nice and steady, whether you're in a tree or on 1120 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,600 Speaker 1: the ground. But the big thing is to don't skimp 1121 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 1: on equipment. By good stuff and it'll show with your footage. 1122 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,919 Speaker 1: The quality will show through. If you'd like to learn 1123 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 1: more and to see the properties that Jeff currently has 1124 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 1: listed for sale, visit white tail properties dot com. Backslash 1125 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 1: propes that's p r O p s t um and Uh. 1126 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,600 Speaker 1: I went to that new property I've got permission on 1127 01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,920 Speaker 1: the west side of the state today and hung four stands. Um. 1128 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,440 Speaker 1: It's very last minute, much later than I usually like to. 1129 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,760 Speaker 1: But the guy that's out there, um, that's aweso on 1130 01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,480 Speaker 1: this property. He is kind of putsing around a lot 1131 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,920 Speaker 1: of time, checking it out on a on like a 1132 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,200 Speaker 1: gator or like a UTV kind of deal. So he, 1133 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of believes that these deer are 1134 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,880 Speaker 1: pretty comfortable with his presence on that as often as 1135 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:08,480 Speaker 1: he goes through there, so we kind of use that 1136 01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,800 Speaker 1: to mask us, you know, getting a tree stand hunk. 1137 01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 1: So we went in there with that thing just like 1138 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:16,120 Speaker 1: he usually does. Left that going hung the stands, got 1139 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,600 Speaker 1: out of there, so, you know, not that much, rarely 1140 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,080 Speaker 1: be getting it done a month ago, but it is 1141 01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,720 Speaker 1: what it is. Better to have something going than not. Um, 1142 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 1: So it's good to get that work done. And you know, 1143 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,080 Speaker 1: back here on the on the main spot, the holy 1144 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,680 Speaker 1: field spot, I've got no good news. There no pictures 1145 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:39,160 Speaker 1: of him. Um. I checked one camera and that back 1146 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:42,280 Speaker 1: food plot where that camera was. The plot is like 1147 01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,880 Speaker 1: a dirt field. I don't know what happened, but Braskas 1148 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,840 Speaker 1: aren't coming in like they usually do, so that was 1149 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:54,880 Speaker 1: a bust and that's kind of where I'm at. Yeah, Yeah, 1150 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 1: I got October One's a Sunday this year, so I 1151 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:02,040 Speaker 1: don't even know if I'm gonna hunt or not, but um, 1152 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 1: I think I'm going to. Whether it's gonna be around 1153 01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:08,800 Speaker 1: home or back back at the main farm, it's uh, 1154 01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a firm believer of stay out of 1155 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:16,320 Speaker 1: the timber in September. So I got trail cameras that 1156 01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 1: I've only checked one time this entire summer, and it 1157 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,560 Speaker 1: pisses me off just a little bit that I haven't 1158 01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,520 Speaker 1: had the time to go do it. But hopefully that 1159 01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:30,760 Speaker 1: translates into just less pressure on the farm. So we 1160 01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:34,280 Speaker 1: will see. I probably won't check my you know, unless 1161 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,240 Speaker 1: I maybe go down there at some time at some point. 1162 01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:41,000 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna be checking my trail cameras 1163 01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:45,920 Speaker 1: until that first week of first week of October. Yeah, probably, 1164 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,959 Speaker 1: like you said, probably a good thing. I've definitely laid 1165 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 1: off checking summer cameras significantly. Um. I think I checked 1166 01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,440 Speaker 1: cameras once I put cameras out beIN of August. Check 1167 01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:04,560 Speaker 1: him once. Just but just like the deer shift, man, 1168 01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,040 Speaker 1: I always try to get like the last week in August, 1169 01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:11,080 Speaker 1: take my trail cameras off of my mineral stations and 1170 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,479 Speaker 1: put them in pinch points and put them in fence 1171 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:17,320 Speaker 1: crossings and you know, historically good places where maybe a 1172 01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:21,080 Speaker 1: scrape or two might pop up. But I haven't done that, 1173 01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,919 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna be a little bit behind. I should 1174 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:25,959 Speaker 1: still be able to go do it before the rut hits, 1175 01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:30,240 Speaker 1: but you know, I don't know. Man. Yeah, that's a 1176 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,680 Speaker 1: good point, and I'm not necessarily worried about it. It's 1177 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:36,480 Speaker 1: just the fact that I won't have like my typical 1178 01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,520 Speaker 1: September data that I like to have, you know, once 1179 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,280 Speaker 1: that once the deer go hard horn, they have that shift, 1180 01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,280 Speaker 1: and I like to catch that shift on trail camera. However, 1181 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,960 Speaker 1: this year I seems like I won't. I won't have that. Yeah, 1182 01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,920 Speaker 1: I got more bad news for you. Oh, October one 1183 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 1: is on a Monday. It's on a Monday. It's on 1184 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:58,840 Speaker 1: a Monday. I love my calendar. Well, son of a gun, 1185 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:08,640 Speaker 1: H want to take the day off? No, dude, here's 1186 01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,800 Speaker 1: the thing, here's the just the green light way to 1187 01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,919 Speaker 1: get out of a day at work. You call in 1188 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,320 Speaker 1: and you tell your boss diarrhea, you have explosive diarrhea. 1189 01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:20,800 Speaker 1: They will they will not question it. They will just 1190 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,000 Speaker 1: try to get off the phone as quickly as possible 1191 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:27,360 Speaker 1: and you'll be golden. Yeah, summon that up. Eat some 1192 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:28,920 Speaker 1: chili the night before, so you don't need to lie 1193 01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:35,160 Speaker 1: about it. Boss listens to this. Dude, I wish no 1194 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:39,720 Speaker 1: he does. Really, Yeah, your boss is a deer hunt. Yeah, dude, 1195 01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,600 Speaker 1: he he has. He bought this, uh farm out in 1196 01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,920 Speaker 1: the country. This is just a real short story. He 1197 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:49,440 Speaker 1: bought this farm out in the country and every year 1198 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,400 Speaker 1: he's had a boot and crockett on it. And his 1199 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,120 Speaker 1: first buck he's ever shot with a bow is like 1200 01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,439 Speaker 1: a one high one fifties did you Iowa, guys, it's 1201 01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:04,120 Speaker 1: not even right. Yep, Wow, this is amazing. So wow 1202 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,680 Speaker 1: something like that. So so he hears all the stuff 1203 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:11,120 Speaker 1: you talk about and he still keeps you hired. Well, 1204 01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:15,440 Speaker 1: it's not like a trash trash anybody you know, Uh, 1205 01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,000 Speaker 1: the cubical life. It can get to a guy. Yeah, yeah, 1206 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:22,640 Speaker 1: I can. Well, hello to Dan's boss. Thanks for being 1207 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:29,760 Speaker 1: a fan. Okay, Well, we've kind of ramble on about 1208 01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,160 Speaker 1: our hunts. I've got one listener question that I want 1209 01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:33,880 Speaker 1: us to tackle here before we wrap up to his 1210 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:38,640 Speaker 1: quick show. YEP, this comes from Jake in Arlington, Virginia. 1211 01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,840 Speaker 1: He says that he uh, I'll just quote I went 1212 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,600 Speaker 1: to a Washington Nationals game yesterday with my wife and 1213 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,720 Speaker 1: got into conversation about walk up songs before the batter 1214 01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,200 Speaker 1: goes up to hit. I'd love to hear what you 1215 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,479 Speaker 1: and Dan talk about, or what you would talk about 1216 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,960 Speaker 1: as far as walk up songs to when you're going hunting, 1217 01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,480 Speaker 1: and if that would change throughout the year, Like would 1218 01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,800 Speaker 1: you have a different walkout song for the early season, 1219 01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:03,520 Speaker 1: for the rut versus the late season, um et cetera. 1220 01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,600 Speaker 1: So if you could have a walkout song as your 1221 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:11,720 Speaker 1: head into the stand, what would that be? Dan? Alright, 1222 01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:19,439 Speaker 1: So first I gotta say something. Fred Bear by Ted Nugent. 1223 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:23,320 Speaker 1: In my opinion, it's not a good let's get ready 1224 01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:26,240 Speaker 1: for hunting song. Sorry, I probably pissed a lot of 1225 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:31,960 Speaker 1: people off. I don't care. Second, it's a classic though 1226 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:35,920 Speaker 1: many I don't care if it's a classic. Yeah, yeah, 1227 01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,360 Speaker 1: it's a classic. Because what it's the only song that 1228 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,200 Speaker 1: we're like they talk about hunting and it's called fred Bear. 1229 01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not. I don't feel it. I don't 1230 01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:48,280 Speaker 1: feel it. So anyway, so what's your better alternative? So 1231 01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,920 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not the guy who's like, you know, 1232 01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:57,120 Speaker 1: like metal is out for me, Country Western it mostly 1233 01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:01,679 Speaker 1: is out. I want some like really mel Low Tiptoe 1234 01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:05,720 Speaker 1: and type stuff. So this, this isn't what you listen to. 1235 01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,600 Speaker 1: This is the song that would play as you triumphantly 1236 01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,640 Speaker 1: head to your stand, as if you were walking to 1237 01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:15,080 Speaker 1: the plate. Yes. Yes, And when I'm heading to the 1238 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,240 Speaker 1: plate to the tree stand, I'm not looking at headbang. 1239 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,840 Speaker 1: I'm not looking to get crazy fired up. I'm what 1240 01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:26,280 Speaker 1: I'm ready to get focused, all right. So one song 1241 01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:31,240 Speaker 1: that comes to mind Neil Young Cortez The Killer. I 1242 01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:32,600 Speaker 1: don't know if I know that one off top of 1243 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,200 Speaker 1: my head. Yeah, because it was made probably before your 1244 01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:43,120 Speaker 1: dad was born. Okay, So Neil Young Cortez The Killer 1245 01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:50,080 Speaker 1: for there um anything off the album? What what album is? 1246 01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:54,679 Speaker 1: It's the Black Keys, uh, and it's the album Um Brothers. 1247 01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,559 Speaker 1: So I like that whole album. So those are just 1248 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,840 Speaker 1: two examples of just something like some bam bam bam 1249 01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:09,080 Speaker 1: dada Da Da Da, Bum Bump Bob and then the 1250 01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:14,679 Speaker 1: most inspiring music ever, just like some real laid back 1251 01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,559 Speaker 1: chill music. You know, it's not let me guess you're 1252 01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:24,040 Speaker 1: gonna be like blow sticks and ship on the way 1253 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:28,960 Speaker 1: to stand. Now, that's like my everyday life, man, I 1254 01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,640 Speaker 1: got yeah, I gotta, I gotta change it up for 1255 01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,080 Speaker 1: the tree stand. But basically my walk up song to 1256 01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:42,960 Speaker 1: my office every day would be UM. But yes you 1257 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,720 Speaker 1: as you know, and as many people past listeners know, 1258 01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:49,000 Speaker 1: I like some good e d M, dance and techno music. 1259 01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,720 Speaker 1: That's like my pre hunt truck drive music that I 1260 01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:58,840 Speaker 1: listen to. UM. But I think for my walkout song, 1261 01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,200 Speaker 1: I would have to steal a page out of the 1262 01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,680 Speaker 1: book of my alma mater and play the song that 1263 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,120 Speaker 1: they play when the football team runs out into the field, 1264 01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:10,040 Speaker 1: because like just that moment for me in college, like 1265 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,640 Speaker 1: every time that happened, when the players come out and 1266 01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,920 Speaker 1: they play this song, it just gets me so amped up. 1267 01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,560 Speaker 1: And that is thunderstruck by a C. D. C um 1268 01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,200 Speaker 1: That song headed walking up to the walking up to 1269 01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,320 Speaker 1: the plate would get me fired up and ready for 1270 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,360 Speaker 1: a cold front on November four, So I think that 1271 01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:31,639 Speaker 1: would have to be my pick, but I'll try Cortez 1272 01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:35,519 Speaker 1: the Killer, Quartets the Cornado or whatever things calling me 1273 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,320 Speaker 1: Neil Young and the song is Cortez the Killer. Okay, 1274 01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,599 Speaker 1: I'll give that a try and when we'll see how 1275 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:47,880 Speaker 1: that works for me. Well, good luck with that, um, 1276 01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:54,240 Speaker 1: thanks man. Um. All right, well, uh dude, awesome elk hunt. 1277 01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:57,880 Speaker 1: I'm happy it was fun, um, And I don't know 1278 01:11:57,920 --> 01:11:59,800 Speaker 1: if we'll be if I'm gonna be able to record one, 1279 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:03,480 Speaker 1: let's try to record one before my elk hunt next week. Um, 1280 01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,559 Speaker 1: but if not, hopefully have a story on that soon. 1281 01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:10,800 Speaker 1: So that's it for me, buddy, and that's it for 1282 01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,760 Speaker 1: the show too, So thank you for listening. Um. My 1283 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,639 Speaker 1: usual couple of reminders, make sure you're subscribe to the podcast. 1284 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,519 Speaker 1: Make sure you are subscribed to the wire Unting YouTube channel. 1285 01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,000 Speaker 1: I got the video of my last day hunting in 1286 01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,840 Speaker 1: Montana up on there, so you can see that whole hunt. 1287 01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,600 Speaker 1: Check that out, get a leg it would subscribe. I 1288 01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:31,400 Speaker 1: would appreciate that so much. And otherwise, you know, the 1289 01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,080 Speaker 1: one other thing I mean to mention is that Dan 1290 01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:36,639 Speaker 1: actually did a full three part series about his elk hunt, 1291 01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,200 Speaker 1: and I believe it was it was with Adam and Ryan, 1292 01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:40,880 Speaker 1: the guys he hunted with. He did that over on 1293 01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,160 Speaker 1: the nine Fingure Chronicles podcast, so if you want more 1294 01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:48,600 Speaker 1: details about that, be sure check out his podcast there. Otherwise, 1295 01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,080 Speaker 1: stay tuned for more. It's gonna be exciting a few 1296 01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:54,679 Speaker 1: weeks coming up here with ELK and the Michigan season 1297 01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,640 Speaker 1: kicking off the Iowa season kicking off for Dan, so 1298 01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,400 Speaker 1: hopefully we'll have some good stories for you on that 1299 01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,000 Speaker 1: front as well. Until next time, I guess I will 1300 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:05,160 Speaker 1: just leave you by saying thank you again, good luck 1301 01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:09,400 Speaker 1: on your seasons as well, and stay Wired to Hunt. 1302 01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:11,360 Speaker 1: M h