WEBVTT - The Dave Pasch Podcast - Trey McBride Taking Game To Next Level 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:05.760 Welcome to another edition of the Dave Pasch Podcast. I'm 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:09.360 your host, Dave Pash ESPN and Arizona Cardinals play by 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:12.360 play announcer. Our guest this week is a guy that 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:15.560 has evolved into one of the top tight ends in 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:19.119 the NFL. If you look at Trey McBride's numbers this season, 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:22.880 and in particular the last five to eight games, and 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:25.759 watch the games and watch what he's doing on the field, 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:29.280 it's easy to see the Trey McBride is becoming a 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:32.920 star before our very eyes. He's already set the single 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:36.320 season franchise record for catches by a tight end. He 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:39.400 is one of two tight ends in Cardinal history with 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:42.720 seven hundred plus yards in a season, Jackie Smith the 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:45.560 legend being the other. And he's already got two one 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:49.280 hundred yard games. No player of the last thirty four 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:51.839 years had had won one hundred yard games as a 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:54.840 tight end in a single game. So what Trey McBride 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:59.080 is doing this season is something to be aware of, 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:02.000 because I think it's only going to get better. Looking 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:04.240 forward to this conversation with Trey, we're going to talk 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:07.360 a lot of football, a lot about what makes him 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:09.520 so special as a player, some of the areas he 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:12.360 thinks he needs to grow, and also his relationship with 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:13.120 Kyler Murray. 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:15.559 Kyler's starting to build that relationship with me, that trust 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:17.720 that if he throws the ball to me more often 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:19.160 than that, I'm coming down with it. I'm going to 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:20.400 catch the ball and I'm going to make a play 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:23.160 for him. So you know, that's kind of the trust 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:24.959 I'm trying to get with him, trying to build with him, 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:27.360 and hopefully he continues to give me opportunities. 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.080 So we'll get into that with Trey, along with a 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:32.160 lot more. We are presented by BETMGM, the official sports 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:35.160 betting partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and by Healer River 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:38.920 Resorts and Casinos. Sign up today with BENMGM, the official 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:42.240 partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Use code cards one thousand 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:44.880 and get back up to one thousand dollars in bonus bets. 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:47.720 If you don't win your first bet, visit BETMGM for 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.640 terms and conditions. Twenty one years of age or older 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:54.600 to wager Arizona only. New customer offer. Please gamble responsibly. 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:58.200 Gambling problem Call one eight hundred, next step all right 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:05.600 time now for our conversation with Cardinals tight end Trey McBride. So, Trey, 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:07.720 you're playing about as well as anybody at your position 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:10.320 in the NFL over the last eight games. You look 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:14.079 at your last five games, thirty eight catches over four 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:17.240 hundred yards. Your first five games you had only eight 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.040 last year twenty nine. But we kind of saw towards 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:23.120 the end of the season you really getting comfortable. When 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:26.040 do you think it clicked for you? Did it click 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:30.440 last season? This season? When did it kind of all 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:32.960 get to a point where you were really comfortable with 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:33.520 what you were doing. 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:36.480 Yeah, I think just kind of, you know, as the 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:38.720 reps come, as you play a little bit more, you 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:40.600 kind of just feel more comfortable. You kind of start 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:43.360 getting into groove, and you kind of just start start 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.200 becoming the player that you that you know you can. 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:47.560 So I think last year, you know, towards the end 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:49.120 of the year, when I started playing, I was playing 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:53.080 significant you know, eighty ninety percent of the snaps. I 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:54.880 got comfortable. I felt like I was getting a lot 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:56.840 of confidence. And then going into this season, I had 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:58.800 a lot of confidence. I you know, felt like I 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:00.760 could I you know, could do a lot of the 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.320 things and then when I got my opportunity this year, 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:04.800 I just kind of took it and ran with it. 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:07.000 So are you a guy that, you know, do you 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:10.680 do any like visualizations where you think about stuff? Are 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:12.840 you a guy that it's all about the work in 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:13.480 the weight room? 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:13.600 Like? 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.840 What are some of the things you did in between 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:17.840 last year and this year to prepare you knowing that 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.519 you had gone through it now you'd seen what the 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:22.720 NFL was like playing in at week to week because 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:24.880 it's obviously a much longer season than college. 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:26.800 Yeah, I think it was just being consistent, you know, 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:30.040 having a good off season program, making sure I was strong, healthy, 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:32.799 things like that, but most of all, just being consistent 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:34.160 with what I do. You know, I take care of 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:37.440 my body. I try to stay healthy, you know, like 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:39.720 you said, it's a long season. You're trying to you know, 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:42.200 get through the whole season healthy. And that's a huge 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.680 part of it, you know, staying healthy, staying prepared, and 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.560 just whenever you get that opportunity, making sure you maximize it. 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.400 And you know, I just came in every week, you know, 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.400 preparing like I was going to be the starter, Preparing 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:54.560 like I was going to play every snap, knowing if 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.320 I got the chance, I knew exactly what I was 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:58.280 going to be able to do. You know, the coaches 0:03:58.280 --> 0:03:59.720 didn't have to worry if you know, I knew what 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.160 I was doing. So just always being prepared every single 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.720 week and just you know, when that opportunity comes, making 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:05.800 sure you take advantage of it. 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.160 What would you say is your best attribute? Because there 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:09.840 was a play you made yesterday? I said this on 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:12.440 the air doing the game with Wolf. That was an 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:16.600 elite play where your momentum was carrying you towards the sideline, 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:19.560 the ball was thrown up field, you stop, you adjusted 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:21.719 mid air, you make the catch, then you make a 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:25.160 guy miss to get the first down. Like you obviously 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.400 have made some incredible catches, but you're also very good 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:30.800 after the run. What would you say is your best attribute? 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:34.360 I think just you know, I try to be a 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:36.160 sure handed guy, you know, I try to be a 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:38.000 guy that when you throw the ball to me, you 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.360 know the ball's gonna get caught, the ball's gonna come down, 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:42.520 and I just try to be consistent with that. You know. 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:45.039 I think Kyler's starting to build that relationship with me, 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:46.839 that trust that if he throws the ball to me, 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.000 more often than that, I'm coming down with it. I'm 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:50.440 gonna catch the ball and I'm gonna make a play 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:53.200 for him. So you know, that's kind of the trust 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:54.960 I'm trying to get with him, trying to build with him, 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.479 and hopefully he continues to give me opportunities and I 0:04:57.520 --> 0:04:59.719 continue to show him that he can trust me. But 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:01.839 I think that's the biggest thing, just just having that 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.480 trust with him and making sure he, you know, has 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:04.880 that with me. 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:09.320 How's that connection evolved because obviously last year when you 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.760 were kind of coming on, you know, he had the injury, 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:13.200 so you guys didn't get a chance to play a 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:14.800 ton together, right last year? 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.040 Yeah, you know, I think last year it wasn't uh 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:19.120 definitely not as close as we are now. You know, 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.400 he's a great guy, great guy. Uh texted me when 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:23.240 I got drafted. We kind of had a good relationship, 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.560 you know, last year, but then when you know, when 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.960 he got hurt, he wasn't around rehabbing for his acl 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:30.120 things like that. I was kind of wasn't playing as 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:31.720 much as I am now. So you know, last year 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:33.440 we didn't have the greatest relationship. But now that I've 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:35.520 been you know, stepped into that role, really gotten a 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:38.039 full year with him. He's an awesome he's he loves 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:39.800 to have fun, he loves to you know, he's a 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:41.760 great dude. So I think that relationship is just continuing 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:43.960 to grow each and every week. We're getting closer and closer, 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:45.960 and you know, you know, he's starting to get that 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:47.000 trust and confidence of me. 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:50.080 Along those lines, I'm going to play a sound bite 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:51.840 from him in a recent press conference with which you 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:55.920 probably heard. But before we play it, just I've noticed 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:59.000 with you your which I love. You're emotional, like you 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:01.720 wear your emotions out there after you make a big play. 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:03.840 Is that just who you are? 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:06.120 Yeah, that's uh, that's just who I am. I've been 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:08.120 like that since I was since I was young. I 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:09.760 just I love to have fun. I love to go 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.840 out there and just be animated. I like to bring 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.440 you a lot of juice, a lot of excitement, and uh, 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:17.520 I think it brings you know, my teammates along with me. 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:18.919 With some of my teammates, you know, they love it. 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:20.760 They love the juice and things like that. But that 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.080 that's I love doing that stuff. I just have a 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:25.560 lot of emotion and get after it for sure. 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:29.080 Well, here's Kyler talking because one thing that he's noticed 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:32.200 your emotion, but he also doesn't think that your celebrations 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:34.320 are very good. So let's listen to this. 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:37.800 Here, his celebrations are at awkward just just like it's like, 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:41.320 I think, you know, his swag will get better as 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:44.719 he you know, as he's keeps having success. But yeah, no, 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.159 you know tight ends, you really don't, you know, you know, 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:49.000 you never know what you're getting with them. 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:50.760 First of all, what is that you never know what 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:52.080 you're getting with a tight end? 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:52.200 Why? 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:53.440 Why do you think he said that? 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:55.880 I just think, you know, we're a unique position group. 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:57.279 You know, you never, like you said, you never know 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:59.560 what you're gonna get there. Crazy, they're all over the place. 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:01.479 Like you said, I'm an emotional guy. I'm crazy. I 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.920 do all kinds of crazy things. But you know, I 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:06.960 definitely think you know, he doesn't think my swags there 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:09.160 that's kind of funny. But hopefully you know that that'll come. 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:10.960 I can show him, you know, throughout the weeks that 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:12.040 I got a little swag to me. 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.080 How does this offense suit you? And I'm not asking 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.600 you to, you know, be negative or critical of the 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.800 previous regime. In the offense. But what do you think 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.560 about this particular offense fits your game? 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.120 Yeah, you know, I think we just do a really 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.840 good job of marrying up the run game in the 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:29.640 past game. You know, we do so much stuff with 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:31.920 James and we run the ball. We do so many 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:34.640 different things in the run game, and and and Drew 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:36.120 does a good job of marrying that up in the 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:38.880 past game where we're running a route, but it looks 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:41.239 like we're blocking the same way that we would block 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.120 on that run and then we're slipping in the back 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:45.240 or things like that. So so he's he does a 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:47.200 great job of marrying up those two things, and we 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.160 do a good job of running the ball, and then 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:51.240 that opens up the play action stuff for the tight ends, 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.120 and that's where I you know, get a lot of action. 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.760 He talked about being unique and that, you know, being 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:59.000 a tight end is you know, sometimes personality is different. 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:02.040 There's a guy starting that has different personality. George Kittle. 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:03.200 Yeah, you just kind. 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:05.080 Of watch and listen to him. Seems like a great dude, 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:07.560 but obviously eccentric. I saw him talking to you on 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:09.920 the field after the game yesterday. What did he say, Yeah, 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:10.400 it was just cool. 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:11.840 You know. I told him, this is our fourth time 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.440 playing against each other, and it's just awesome to play 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:16.640 against a guy of his caliber what he's done, and 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:18.560 and I just told him, you know, I love watching 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:20.200 him play. He kind of said the same thing back 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:21.840 to me. It was really cool just to kind of 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:23.520 chop it up with him a little bit after the game. 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:25.600 He's a great dude, and I look forward to the 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:26.840 matchup with him every time. 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.600 So did you grow up wanting to be a tight end? 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.199 Did you have tight ends that you admired, or was 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:33.800 there another position you thought you'd play. 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:35.839 You know, I always knew I was gonna be a 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:39.040 tight end. I played outside linebacker and I just didn't 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.280 really love defense like that. I wanted to score touchdowns. 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.160 I wanted to catch the ball. I always thought it 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.360 was a little bit better at that, and that's what 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.800 I wanted to do. I chose tight end. I loved 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:51.319 watching Gronk. Gronk was awesome growing up watching Rob and 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:54.840 he's an amazing tight end. The chemistry him and Tom 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:57.600 Brady had, all the stuff he did. He was awesome 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:58.960 to watch. So when I was a young kid, he 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:01.600 was the ut highlights I would pull up. For sure. 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:03.160 I was gonna say, it's so funny now when I 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.320 was about to say, you know, was it you know, 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:09.960 Tony Gonzalez or Shannon Sharp? And I forget how young 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.600 you are, man, Like you're like growing up, Rob Gronkowski, 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:14.520 Like think I just retired like two years ago. 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:14.640 Wi. 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:17.640 You're right, he's probably ten or twelve years older than you. Right, 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:23.480 So was there because your brother was a defensive player, right, Toby? 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:26.640 He was a defensive player pass yep, and so he 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:28.400 was he a tight end as well, and decided to 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.080 play defense and you decided to play offense. 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:32.720 He was actually like a fullback kind of a guy 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:34.880 in high school. So we actually did some wildcat stuff 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:36.520 where I was the quarterback and he was kind of 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:38.720 a fullback and we did some stuff like that. But no, 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.640 he never had the hand eye coordination to catch the football, 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:43.400 so we always just handed it off to him and 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:45.440 uh and let him go and hit people. But he 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:47.560 was a much better defensive player than he was offensive. 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:49.760 And you guys are I assume still really tight because 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:50.800 you guys are really tight growing up. 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:50.920 Bro. 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:53.079 Yeah. Yeah, he actually lives with me here in Arizona. 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.040 So yeah, we were very tight. 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:57.040 Still, So what do you guys do when you're not 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:00.400 when you're not studying film or playing a game or 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.319 practicing What is it that do you guys do stuff 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:03.080 together all the time? 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:05.559 Yeah, so we we love to cook, So you know, 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.720 every night we're making dinner together. We you know, we rotate, 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:10.400 We kind of do all kinds sorts of different things, 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.240 but we're always making food. We love to play video games. 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:15.520 We have a I have a huge office and we 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.680 have both of our computers set up in there, and 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:19.480 you know, all sorts of cool stuff in there. So 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:22.280 we play video games together almost every day. But we 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:23.760 always spend a lot of time. You know, we'll go 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.480 out and swim, We'll you know, play catch whatever it is. 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:28.079 But yeah, we're always doing something together. 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:29.760 I want to go back to the cooking thing. So 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.080 when you say you guys are cooking, is it like 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.960 foo foo food? Like is it like really gourmet or 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:37.640 is it hey, we're making pasta and meatballs. 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:39.800 Yeah, it's more of like, hey, we're making pasta and 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.120 meatballs things like that, but not so much of that. 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:43.880 You know, we're rotating, We're doing different things. We're on 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:47.080 Pinterest trying to find uh, you know, recipes and stuff 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:49.160 that look good, something that catches our eye, and we're 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:51.559 always trying different things, and then we'll you know, rate 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:53.360 it afterwards. We'll be like, is that a keeper? Is 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:54.480 that a should? 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:54.520 We? 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:56.760 Should? We not ever make that one again? And only 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:58.760 a few times we haven't ever wanted to make it again. 0:10:58.840 --> 0:10:59.800 So it usually turns out. 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:03.200 And you have another brother who's a twin, right, Yeah, 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:03.720 I'm a twin. 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:05.800 Yeah, so me and him are twin brothers. Yeah, Dylan 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:06.720 Dylan my twin. 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:09.000 Yet, Okay, and so Toby is living with you? 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.200 Correct? And where's Dylan? Dylan lives back in Colorado. Yeah, 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.880 he's a fireman. Uh, works for a fire department there 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.120 in Colorado. But he's he was actually out here this 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.679 weekend visiting, so he was. He's been out here for 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:21.040 the last couple days. So it's been fun. 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.640 Now your twins, if so, if he comes to practice it, 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:26.520 puts on a uniform and number eighty five, would we 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:27.160 be able to tell? 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:30.480 Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm much better looking than him. So 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.160 so that's kind of where we uh we we we 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:35.760 look a little different now we're actually fraternal twins, so 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:39.840 we don't really look super similar. He's a big dude, strong. 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.280 He's a little bit bigger than me actually, so definitely 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:43.880 the size wise, you wouldn't be able to tell, but 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:45.160 we do look a little bit different. 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:45.400 Now. 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:48.480 I know you were a great athlete in high school, basketball, baseball, football. 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:51.079 Did you always think football was going to be your sport? 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.160 Yeah? I think so. You know, I love baseball as well. 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:56.040 Baseball was probably my second sport, but you know, I 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:59.120 think that my opportunity came, and my best opportunity was 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:00.679 to go play football. That's what I loved. I thought 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:02.480 I was probably the best at it, and and I 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:03.960 wanted to play tight end, and that's what I did. 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.040 I went to college and did that and didn't look back. 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:08.920 So you went to Colorado State, And if I remember, 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.800 you were not incredibly highly recruited right coming out of 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.880 high school, right, was it, Dazzi? No, Dazio was not 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:15.960 the head coach that recruited you. 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:19.280 Right, Mike Bobo? Yeah, okay, yep, yep. So Mike Bobo 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.439 recruited me there to Colorado State, and he just kind 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:25.200 of felt like home there. You know. My older brother Toby, 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:27.520 like you said, he was already there at Colorado State. 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:30.800 They had offered him, they offered me shortly after that. 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:33.199 So then when when my brother committed there, I committed 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.760 shortly after. I wanted to play with him. It was 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:37.400 about an hour and a half from my hometown, so 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:40.000 it worked out perfectly. Parents were at every game I 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.120 got to play, you know, four years of college with 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:44.440 my older brother. It was it was perfect, awesome. 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.000 So I'm not sure how familiar with what I do. 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.160 But outside of the Cardinals I do. I work for ESPN, 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.720 so do college football every week. And I just remember 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:53.240 I didn't have any of your games in college, but 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.680 I remember all the time because you obviously won the 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:58.320 Macki Award, that your highlights were playing all the time, 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:00.960 and when the Cardinals drafted you, familiar with you as 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:05.000 a player. It's interesting because nowadays, somebody of your talent 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:08.040 at a school at Colorado State, after things start going well, 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.920 they look to transfer. I don't know how much college 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.720 football you still watch or pay attention to, but do 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:15.559 you think things are out of control in that regard? 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.320 It feels like now it's if it doesn't work out 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.000 at one school, or even if you think, you know, 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:22.040 I might have a better nil chance or a better 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.800 chance to make the NFL elsewhere. I'm getting out of here. 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.120 But you stayed. You stayed and won the Makie at 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.240 Colorado State, not a powerfied school. 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.440 Yeah. Like you said, I think the whole transferring stuff 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.559 is getting a little crazy, especially with the NIL people 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:36.040 are kind of just blowing it up with the money, 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.400 trying to transfer just for the money and not really 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:40.880 there for the opportunity that they have. I had a 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:44.439 great opportunity at CSU. I loved it, and I stayed 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:46.880 loyal to the program and they were loyal to me 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:49.560 and they gave me the opportunity. I had a great 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.160 season and ended up winning the Makie. So that's definitely 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:54.440 something that I'm very grateful for. I'm so glad I 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.480 didn't transfer. You know, I definitely thought about it, you know, 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.680 things like that, but I didn't, you know, never wanted to, 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.040 wanted to stay there at Coloro State and ended up 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:03.480 winning maki So it was very special. 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:06.400 So all right, going back to your childhood you're talking about, 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.200 you know, playing sports. Did you think you would make 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.640 it to the NFL? Is that a dream? You mentioned 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:13.600 your brother being a firefighter, Is that something you were 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.080 interested in me, and did you see yourself ending up 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:16.840 where you are right now? 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:18.680 Yeah, you know, I think I always I think, you know, 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.320 every little kid dreams of being a professional football player, 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.920 professional athlete, or something of some sort. So I think 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.440 that's exactly what I wanted to do. I think I 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.560 always dreamed of it. I never really knew what I 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:31.360 wanted to do when I got older. I always wanted 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.000 to play football. I never really thought about another option. 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:36.480 And uh, and when I got to college, you know, 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.680 I actually majored in accounting. I couldn't tell you anything 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.760 about taxes or anything about that, but that's that's my 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.640 what I'm doing. But so I'm glad it football worked out. 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:47.200 I love playing football. I hope I can do it 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:48.200 for a long time. 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.640 So my one of my daughters is now an accountant. 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.480 I can't say that I envisioned that that's what she 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:55.480 would do, but she she loves it. You have to, 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.440 I guess really love numbers, Yeah, no doubt. 0:14:57.520 --> 0:14:59.800 Yeah I was good at math, and yeah I took 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.320 an a counting class in college. I did really well, 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.160 and I was like, maybe this isn't so bad. And 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.080 then about two or three years later, I was like 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:08.560 wanting to turn around, but I was so deep into 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.000 the major I couldn't do that. 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:14.120 Are you a big sports fan outside of just NFL? 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:15.640 It seems like a lot of guys you mentioned playing 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:17.560 video games, but a lot of guys that I talk 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:19.960 to that are young guys. They don't watch as many games. 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:23.560 They're not sitting around every night watching NBA players aren't 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.480 watching a ton of NBA the younger guys the older 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:29.080 guys do. Where do you fall in line? Are you 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.760 watching college football on a Saturday or are you doing 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:32.280 something else? 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.760 Yeah, I usually pull up a college football game or 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:37.960 you know, if we're not playing on Sundays, I'm usually 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.720 watching games Thursdays, Mondays, things like that. I always kind 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:43.040 of have a game pulled up. But I love watching football. 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:44.720 It's a lot of fun. I kind of watch the 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:46.520 game a little bit different now you know that I 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:48.520