1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Dave Pasch Podcast. I'm 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: your host, Dave Pash ESPN and Arizona Cardinals play by 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: play announcer. Our guest this week is a guy that 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: has evolved into one of the top tight ends in 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: the NFL. If you look at Trey McBride's numbers this season, 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: and in particular the last five to eight games, and 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: watch the games and watch what he's doing on the field, 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: it's easy to see the Trey McBride is becoming a 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: star before our very eyes. He's already set the single 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: season franchise record for catches by a tight end. He 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: is one of two tight ends in Cardinal history with 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: seven hundred plus yards in a season, Jackie Smith the 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: legend being the other. And he's already got two one 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: hundred yard games. No player of the last thirty four 15 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: years had had won one hundred yard games as a 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: tight end in a single game. So what Trey McBride 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: is doing this season is something to be aware of, 18 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: because I think it's only going to get better. Looking 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: forward to this conversation with Trey, we're going to talk 20 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: a lot of football, a lot about what makes him 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: so special as a player, some of the areas he 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: thinks he needs to grow, and also his relationship with 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. 24 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 2: Kyler's starting to build that relationship with me, that trust 25 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: that if he throws the ball to me more often 26 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: than that, I'm coming down with it. I'm going to 27 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 2: catch the ball and I'm going to make a play 28 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: for him. 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You look 44 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: at your last five games, thirty eight catches over four 45 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: hundred yards. Your first five games you had only eight 46 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: last year twenty nine. But we kind of saw towards 47 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: the end of the season you really getting comfortable. When 48 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: do you think it clicked for you? Did it click 49 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: last season? This season? When did it kind of all 50 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: get to a point where you were really comfortable with 51 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: what you were doing. 52 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think just kind of, you know, as the 53 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: reps come, as you play a little bit more, you 54 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: kind of just feel more comfortable. You kind of start 55 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: getting into groove, and you kind of just start start 56 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: becoming the player that you that you know you can. 57 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: So I think last year, you know, towards the end 58 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: of the year, when I started playing, I was playing 59 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: significant you know, eighty ninety percent of the snaps. I 60 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: got comfortable. I felt like I was getting a lot 61 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: of confidence. And then going into this season, I had 62 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: a lot of confidence. I you know, felt like I 63 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: could I you know, could do a lot of the 64 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: things and then when I got my opportunity this year, 65 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: I just kind of took it and ran with it. 66 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: So are you a guy that, you know, do you 67 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: do any like visualizations where you think about stuff? Are 68 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: you a guy that it's all about the work in 69 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: the weight room? 70 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 3: Like? 71 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: What are some of the things you did in between 72 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: last year and this year to prepare you knowing that 73 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 1: you had gone through it now you'd seen what the 74 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: NFL was like playing in at week to week because 75 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: it's obviously a much longer season than college. 76 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was just being consistent, you know, 77 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: having a good off season program, making sure I was strong, healthy, 78 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 2: things like that, but most of all, just being consistent 79 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: with what I do. You know, I take care of 80 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: my body. I try to stay healthy, you know, like 81 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: you said, it's a long season. You're trying to you know, 82 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: get through the whole season healthy. And that's a huge 83 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: part of it, you know, staying healthy, staying prepared, and 84 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: just whenever you get that opportunity, making sure you maximize it. 85 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: And you know, I just came in every week, you know, 86 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: preparing like I was going to be the starter, Preparing 87 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: like I was going to play every snap, knowing if 88 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: I got the chance, I knew exactly what I was 89 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: going to be able to do. You know, the coaches 90 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: didn't have to worry if you know, I knew what 91 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: I was doing. So just always being prepared every single 92 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: week and just you know, when that opportunity comes, making 93 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: sure you take advantage of it. 94 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: What would you say is your best attribute? Because there 95 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: was a play you made yesterday? I said this on 96 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: the air doing the game with Wolf. That was an 97 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: elite play where your momentum was carrying you towards the sideline, 98 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: the ball was thrown up field, you stop, you adjusted 99 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: mid air, you make the catch, then you make a 100 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: guy miss to get the first down. Like you obviously 101 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: have made some incredible catches, but you're also very good 102 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: after the run. What would you say is your best attribute? 103 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: I think just you know, I try to be a 104 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 2: sure handed guy, you know, I try to be a 105 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: guy that when you throw the ball to me, you 106 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 2: know the ball's gonna get caught, the ball's gonna come down, 107 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: and I just try to be consistent with that. You know. 108 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 2: I think Kyler's starting to build that relationship with me, 109 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 2: that trust that if he throws the ball to me, 110 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: more often than that, I'm coming down with it. I'm 111 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: gonna catch the ball and I'm gonna make a play 112 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: for him. So you know, that's kind of the trust 113 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: I'm trying to get with him, trying to build with him, 114 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 2: and hopefully he continues to give me opportunities and I 115 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: continue to show him that he can trust me. But 116 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: I think that's the biggest thing, just just having that 117 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 2: trust with him and making sure he, you know, has 118 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: that with me. 119 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: How's that connection evolved because obviously last year when you 120 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: were kind of coming on, you know, he had the injury, 121 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: so you guys didn't get a chance to play a 122 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: ton together, right last year? 123 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think last year it wasn't uh 124 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: definitely not as close as we are now. You know, 125 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: he's a great guy, great guy. Uh texted me when 126 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: I got drafted. We kind of had a good relationship, 127 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: you know, last year, but then when you know, when 128 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: he got hurt, he wasn't around rehabbing for his acl 129 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: things like that. I was kind of wasn't playing as 130 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 2: much as I am now. So you know, last year 131 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: we didn't have the greatest relationship. But now that I've 132 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: been you know, stepped into that role, really gotten a 133 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 2: full year with him. He's an awesome he's he loves 134 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: to have fun, he loves to you know, he's a 135 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: great dude. So I think that relationship is just continuing 136 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: to grow each and every week. We're getting closer and closer, 137 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: and you know, you know, he's starting to get that 138 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: trust and confidence of me. 139 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: Along those lines, I'm going to play a sound bite 140 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: from him in a recent press conference with which you 141 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: probably heard. But before we play it, just I've noticed 142 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: with you your which I love. You're emotional, like you 143 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: wear your emotions out there after you make a big play. 144 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: Is that just who you are? 145 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's uh, that's just who I am. I've been 146 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: like that since I was since I was young. I 147 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: just I love to have fun. I love to go 148 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 2: out there and just be animated. I like to bring 149 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: you a lot of juice, a lot of excitement, and uh, 150 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: I think it brings you know, my teammates along with me. 151 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 2: With some of my teammates, you know, they love it. 152 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: They love the juice and things like that. But that 153 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: that's I love doing that stuff. I just have a 154 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: lot of emotion and get after it for sure. 155 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: Well, here's Kyler talking because one thing that he's noticed 156 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: your emotion, but he also doesn't think that your celebrations 157 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: are very good. So let's listen to this. 158 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 3: Here, his celebrations are at awkward just just like it's like, 159 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 3: I think, you know, his swag will get better as 160 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 3: he you know, as he's keeps having success. But yeah, no, 161 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 3: you know tight ends, you really don't, you know, you know, 162 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 3: you never know what you're getting with them. 163 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: First of all, what is that you never know what 164 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: you're getting with a tight end? 165 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: Why? 166 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: Why do you think he said that? 167 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: I just think, you know, we're a unique position group. 168 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: You know, you never, like you said, you never know 169 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: what you're gonna get there. Crazy, they're all over the place. 170 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 2: Like you said, I'm an emotional guy. I'm crazy. I 171 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: do all kinds of crazy things. But you know, I 172 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: definitely think you know, he doesn't think my swags there 173 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 2: that's kind of funny. But hopefully you know that that'll come. 174 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: I can show him, you know, throughout the weeks that 175 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: I got a little swag to me. 176 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: How does this offense suit you? And I'm not asking 177 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: you to, you know, be negative or critical of the 178 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: previous regime. In the offense. But what do you think 179 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: about this particular offense fits your game? 180 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think we just do a really 181 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: good job of marrying up the run game in the 182 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: past game. You know, we do so much stuff with 183 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: James and we run the ball. We do so many 184 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: different things in the run game, and and and Drew 185 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: does a good job of marrying that up in the 186 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: past game where we're running a route, but it looks 187 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,239 Speaker 2: like we're blocking the same way that we would block 188 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: on that run and then we're slipping in the back 189 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: or things like that. So so he's he does a 190 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: great job of marrying up those two things, and we 191 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: do a good job of running the ball, and then 192 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: that opens up the play action stuff for the tight ends, 193 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: and that's where I you know, get a lot of action. 194 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: He talked about being unique and that, you know, being 195 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: a tight end is you know, sometimes personality is different. 196 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: There's a guy starting that has different personality. George Kittle. 197 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you just kind. 198 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: Of watch and listen to him. Seems like a great dude, 199 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: but obviously eccentric. I saw him talking to you on 200 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: the field after the game yesterday. What did he say, Yeah, 201 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: it was just cool. 202 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: You know. I told him, this is our fourth time 203 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: playing against each other, and it's just awesome to play 204 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: against a guy of his caliber what he's done, and 205 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: and I just told him, you know, I love watching 206 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: him play. He kind of said the same thing back 207 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: to me. It was really cool just to kind of 208 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: chop it up with him a little bit after the game. 209 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: He's a great dude, and I look forward to the 210 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: matchup with him every time. 211 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: So did you grow up wanting to be a tight end? 212 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: Did you have tight ends that you admired, or was 213 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: there another position you thought you'd play. 214 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 2: You know, I always knew I was gonna be a 215 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: tight end. I played outside linebacker and I just didn't 216 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: really love defense like that. I wanted to score touchdowns. 217 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: I wanted to catch the ball. I always thought it 218 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: was a little bit better at that, and that's what 219 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: I wanted to do. I chose tight end. I loved 220 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 2: watching Gronk. Gronk was awesome growing up watching Rob and 221 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: he's an amazing tight end. The chemistry him and Tom 222 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: Brady had, all the stuff he did. He was awesome 223 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: to watch. So when I was a young kid, he 224 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: was the ut highlights I would pull up. For sure. 225 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, it's so funny now when I 226 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: was about to say, you know, was it you know, 227 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: Tony Gonzalez or Shannon Sharp? And I forget how young 228 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: you are, man, Like you're like growing up, Rob Gronkowski, 229 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: Like think I just retired like two years ago. 230 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: Wi. 231 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: You're right, he's probably ten or twelve years older than you. Right, 232 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: So was there because your brother was a defensive player, right, Toby? 233 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: He was a defensive player pass yep, and so he 234 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: was he a tight end as well, and decided to 235 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: play defense and you decided to play offense. 236 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: He was actually like a fullback kind of a guy 237 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: in high school. So we actually did some wildcat stuff 238 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: where I was the quarterback and he was kind of 239 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 2: a fullback and we did some stuff like that. But no, 240 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: he never had the hand eye coordination to catch the football, 241 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: so we always just handed it off to him and 242 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 2: uh and let him go and hit people. But he 243 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 2: was a much better defensive player than he was offensive. 244 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: And you guys are I assume still really tight because 245 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: you guys are really tight growing up. 246 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 3: Bro. 247 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he actually lives with me here in Arizona. 248 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, we were very tight. 249 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: Still, So what do you guys do when you're not 250 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: when you're not studying film or playing a game or 251 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 1: practicing What is it that do you guys do stuff 252 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: together all the time? 253 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we we love to cook, So you know, 254 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: every night we're making dinner together. We you know, we rotate, 255 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: We kind of do all kinds sorts of different things, 256 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: but we're always making food. We love to play video games. 257 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: We have a I have a huge office and we 258 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 2: have both of our computers set up in there, and 259 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: you know, all sorts of cool stuff in there. So 260 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: we play video games together almost every day. But we 261 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: always spend a lot of time. You know, we'll go 262 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: out and swim, We'll you know, play catch whatever it is. 263 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 2: But yeah, we're always doing something together. 264 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: I want to go back to the cooking thing. So 265 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: when you say you guys are cooking, is it like 266 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: foo foo food? Like is it like really gourmet or 267 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: is it hey, we're making pasta and meatballs. 268 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more of like, hey, we're making pasta and 269 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: meatballs things like that, but not so much of that. 270 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: You know, we're rotating, We're doing different things. We're on 271 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 2: Pinterest trying to find uh, you know, recipes and stuff 272 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: that look good, something that catches our eye, and we're 273 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 2: always trying different things, and then we'll you know, rate 274 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: it afterwards. We'll be like, is that a keeper? Is 275 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: that a should? 276 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: We? 277 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: Should? We not ever make that one again? And only 278 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: a few times we haven't ever wanted to make it again. 279 00:10:58,840 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: So it usually turns out. 280 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: And you have another brother who's a twin, right, Yeah, 281 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: I'm a twin. 282 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so me and him are twin brothers. Yeah, Dylan 283 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: Dylan my twin. 284 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: Yet, Okay, and so Toby is living with you? 285 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: Correct? And where's Dylan? Dylan lives back in Colorado. Yeah, 286 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: he's a fireman. Uh, works for a fire department there 287 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: in Colorado. But he's he was actually out here this 288 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: weekend visiting, so he was. He's been out here for 289 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: the last couple days. So it's been fun. 290 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: Now your twins, if so, if he comes to practice it, 291 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: puts on a uniform and number eighty five, would we 292 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: be able to tell? 293 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm much better looking than him. So 294 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: so that's kind of where we uh we we we 295 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: look a little different now we're actually fraternal twins, so 296 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: we don't really look super similar. He's a big dude, strong. 297 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: He's a little bit bigger than me actually, so definitely 298 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: the size wise, you wouldn't be able to tell, but 299 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: we do look a little bit different. 300 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: Now. 301 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: I know you were a great athlete in high school, basketball, baseball, football. 302 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: Did you always think football was going to be your sport? 303 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so. You know, I love baseball as well. 304 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: Baseball was probably my second sport, but you know, I 305 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: think that my opportunity came, and my best opportunity was 306 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 2: to go play football. That's what I loved. I thought 307 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: I was probably the best at it, and and I 308 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 2: wanted to play tight end, and that's what I did. 309 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: I went to college and did that and didn't look back. 310 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: So you went to Colorado State, And if I remember, 311 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: you were not incredibly highly recruited right coming out of 312 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: high school, right, was it, Dazzi? No, Dazio was not 313 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: the head coach that recruited you. 314 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: Right, Mike Bobo? Yeah, okay, yep, yep. So Mike Bobo 315 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 2: recruited me there to Colorado State, and he just kind 316 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: of felt like home there. You know. My older brother Toby, 317 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 2: like you said, he was already there at Colorado State. 318 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: They had offered him, they offered me shortly after that. 319 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 2: So then when when my brother committed there, I committed 320 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: shortly after. I wanted to play with him. It was 321 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: about an hour and a half from my hometown, so 322 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: it worked out perfectly. Parents were at every game I 323 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: got to play, you know, four years of college with 324 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 2: my older brother. It was it was perfect, awesome. 325 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: So I'm not sure how familiar with what I do. 326 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: But outside of the Cardinals I do. I work for ESPN, 327 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: so do college football every week. And I just remember 328 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: I didn't have any of your games in college, but 329 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: I remember all the time because you obviously won the 330 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: Macki Award, that your highlights were playing all the time, 331 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: and when the Cardinals drafted you, familiar with you as 332 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: a player. It's interesting because nowadays, somebody of your talent 333 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: at a school at Colorado State, after things start going well, 334 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: they look to transfer. I don't know how much college 335 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: football you still watch or pay attention to, but do 336 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: you think things are out of control in that regard? 337 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: It feels like now it's if it doesn't work out 338 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: at one school, or even if you think, you know, 339 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: I might have a better nil chance or a better 340 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: chance to make the NFL elsewhere. I'm getting out of here. 341 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: But you stayed. You stayed and won the Makie at 342 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: Colorado State, not a powerfied school. 343 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Like you said, I think the whole transferring stuff 344 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 2: is getting a little crazy, especially with the NIL people 345 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: are kind of just blowing it up with the money, 346 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: trying to transfer just for the money and not really 347 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: there for the opportunity that they have. I had a 348 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 2: great opportunity at CSU. I loved it, and I stayed 349 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 2: loyal to the program and they were loyal to me 350 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: and they gave me the opportunity. I had a great 351 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: season and ended up winning the Makie. So that's definitely 352 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 2: something that I'm very grateful for. I'm so glad I 353 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: didn't transfer. You know, I definitely thought about it, you know, 354 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 2: things like that, but I didn't, you know, never wanted to, 355 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: wanted to stay there at Coloro State and ended up 356 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: winning maki So it was very special. 357 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: So all right, going back to your childhood you're talking about, 358 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: you know, playing sports. Did you think you would make 359 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: it to the NFL? Is that a dream? You mentioned 360 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: your brother being a firefighter, Is that something you were 361 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: interested in me, and did you see yourself ending up 362 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: where you are right now? 363 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think I always I think, you know, 364 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: every little kid dreams of being a professional football player, 365 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: professional athlete, or something of some sort. So I think 366 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: that's exactly what I wanted to do. I think I 367 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: always dreamed of it. I never really knew what I 368 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: wanted to do when I got older. I always wanted 369 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: to play football. I never really thought about another option. 370 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 2: And uh, and when I got to college, you know, 371 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: I actually majored in accounting. I couldn't tell you anything 372 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: about taxes or anything about that, but that's that's my 373 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: what I'm doing. But so I'm glad it football worked out. 374 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: I love playing football. I hope I can do it 375 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: for a long time. 376 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: So my one of my daughters is now an accountant. 377 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: I can't say that I envisioned that that's what she 378 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: would do, but she she loves it. You have to, 379 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: I guess really love numbers, Yeah, no doubt. 380 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah I was good at math, and yeah I took 381 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: an a counting class in college. I did really well, 382 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: and I was like, maybe this isn't so bad. And 383 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: then about two or three years later, I was like 384 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: wanting to turn around, but I was so deep into 385 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: the major I couldn't do that. 386 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: Are you a big sports fan outside of just NFL? 387 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: It seems like a lot of guys you mentioned playing 388 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: video games, but a lot of guys that I talk 389 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: to that are young guys. They don't watch as many games. 390 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: They're not sitting around every night watching NBA players aren't 391 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: watching a ton of NBA the younger guys the older 392 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: guys do. Where do you fall in line? Are you 393 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: watching college football on a Saturday or are you doing 394 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: something else? 395 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I usually pull up a college football game or 396 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: you know, if we're not playing on Sundays, I'm usually 397 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: watching games Thursdays, Mondays, things like that. I always kind 398 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: of have a game pulled up. But I love watching football. 399 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun. I kind of watch the 400 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: game a little bit different now you know that I 401 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: know football a little bit more, so I kind of 402 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 2: watch it more technique things like that. But I love 403 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: watching football. It's a blast to see what other guys 404 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: are doing. 405 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: So let me just kind of ask you to expound 406 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: on that a little bit. So you was that part 407 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: of the learning curve for you as kind of learning 408 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: more about, you know, how you attack a defense and 409 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: matchups and just kind of the the the intricacies of 410 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: the game that go beyond just running arout and catching 411 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: a pack. 412 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think so, it's just, uh, you you can 413 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: never stop learning. You're always trying to see what other 414 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: guys doing, what's successful. You watch other guys. Oh that's 415 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: what he did, that's how that worked, things like that. 416 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: So you're always trying to, uh to to improve your game, 417 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: and as you watch other players and what they do, 418 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: how they're finding success, you kind of start taking things 419 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: from them and doing the same thing in your own games. 420 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: So I'm always trying to watch other people, see how 421 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 2: they're getting open, see how they're catching the ball, things 422 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: like that. So then I can, you know, hopefully do 423 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: the same. 424 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: So there was a moment during the bye week where 425 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: you weren't watching sports. From what I understand, you went 426 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: to Disneyland. Now is this by choice or was this 427 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: because somebody dragged you to Disneyland? 428 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I like to I'd like to say 429 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: it was by choice, but I think I got dragged in. 430 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: There was a few few days of of going to 431 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 2: Disney It was a good time. We wrote a ton 432 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 2: of rides, a ton of people, but it was a 433 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: it was a good little getaway. 434 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: So who dragged you there? 435 00:16:59,200 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 3: That? 436 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? I went with my girlfriend. It was it was awesome. 437 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: It was it was a good time. But like I said, 438 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 2: it was just a lot of people and I wasn't 439 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 2: really uh you know, ready to see that many people. 440 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: Did you get the fast pass? 441 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely? Yeah. You have to get the fast pass 442 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: if you're gonna if you're gonna do anything, Uh, they're 443 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: at Disney, you have to get the fast pass because 444 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: those lines can get ridiculous. 445 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: So what was there a particular ride that stood out 446 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: to you? Is like, hey, man, if I because you 447 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: had not been to Disneyland, correct, yeah, yeah, I want 448 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: to like, hey, I gotta do this again. Yeah. 449 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 2: I think the the Guardians of the Galaxy. It's like 450 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 2: the Old Tower or tear the one that you know 451 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: you're up in the sky, you drop down from the 452 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: top level all the way down to the bottom. That 453 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: that ride was awesome. Uh. You know, I probably wrote 454 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 2: it three, four or five times. It was a it 455 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 2: was a blast. Every time I wrote it, it got, you know, 456 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: is more and more fun. 457 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: So you're an adrenaline junkie, is what you're trying to say. 458 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no doubt. I was trying to find the fastest, 459 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: you know, the fastest ride, the ones that did all 460 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 2: the most twirls, things like that, trying to trying to 461 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 2: do it all while I was there as a blast. Yeah. 462 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: I can't even do the tea cups. Maybe it's just 463 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: getting older with equilibriums off. 464 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. 465 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: I do the tea cups and it's like I make 466 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm like telling the kids, the little kids, please stop 467 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: spinning it. I'm getting Yeah, how's your shoulder? First of all, 468 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: you got banged up in the game. 469 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: Yeah it's soon. Okay, it's you know, like you said, 470 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 2: a little banged up. You know, hopefully I'll just have 471 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: a couple of days and hopefully they'll be good to 472 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: go by the weekend. 473 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: So obviously there's been a big culture change with a 474 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: new GM, new head coach, new staff, a lot of 475 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: new players. What stands out to you about the culture 476 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: and the shift. 477 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 2: I think guys, you know, guys really want to be here. 478 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 2: Guys play hard, We're not there's no quitting us. I think, 479 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: you know, with that culture, that guys are just playing 480 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 2: really hard. Like you said, that's a really good football team. 481 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: The forty nine ers are good team, and we're right 482 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: there in it. You know, we're a couple of plays 483 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: away here and there, and and we're right there in 484 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 2: that football game. So they've done a great job of 485 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 2: setting a standard and not really lowering below that standard. 486 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 2: And it's it's been fun to be a part. 487 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: Of a there's you know, particular couple guys on the 488 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: team that you know are really guys you look up 489 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: to as as leaders that you kind of watch how 490 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: they handle themselves and handle their business either with the 491 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: media or with Because you're you're obviously getting a lot 492 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: more request to do things like this. So yeah, people 493 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: are talking about you nationally. 494 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, I think you know, James Connor comes to mind. 495 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: He's a He's a great dude, a guy who who 496 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 2: does it the right way, a true professional who's had 497 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: a ton of success but still carries himself the right way. 498 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 2: I really love the way he does things. Buddha is 499 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: another great guy I think, who who carries himself the 500 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 2: right way and and is a great leader, a guy 501 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: that you know that you want to be around. A 502 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: guy you want to play with, a guy that you 503 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: want on the team. So those are two guys that 504 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 2: come to my mind on the team. But great, there's 505 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 2: a ton of guys that carry themselves. So's it's cool 506 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 2: to have guys like that to look up to, to 507 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: to kind of go to if I if I need anything. 508 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: And are you start like, how do you feel like 509 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: you're handling all this stuff now that's starting to come 510 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: your way? 511 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 2: You know? 512 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: Are you? Are you trying to stay away from you know? You? 513 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: Obviously there's three things. You set the school record, the 514 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: single season franchise record for catches by a tight end. 515 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: You're the first tight end in thirty four years with 516 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: a one hundred yard game. You've done it twice. You 517 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: and Jackie Smith the only tight ends in franchise history 518 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: with seven hundred yards in a season. And obviously you're 519 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: getting national recognition. How do you think you've handled all that? 520 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think it's just kind of a you know, 521 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 2: it's kind of like what I what I've a you know, 522 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 2: known I can do. So it's not really a surprise 523 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: to me. It's not really anything that I was not expecting. 524 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 2: So I'm just going out there and playing football and 525 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: kind of what comes with it comes with it. I 526 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: just want to be a part of this team. I 527 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 2: love playing with these guys. I just want to go 528 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: out there and compete, and you know, whatever comes with that, 529 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 2: you know, comes with it. It's been a blast though the 530 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: last few weeks. 531 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: So you see George Kittle does some stuff, you know, 532 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: outside of this, and obviously Travis Kelsey is getting a 533 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: lot of attention. He started thinking about, you know, I 534 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: might want to develop my brand in this way. 535 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I have thought about stuff like that, 536 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: but you know, right now, I'm just kind of taking 537 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: it day by day. You know, maybe maybe this offseason 538 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: I'll kind of figure something out and and kind of 539 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,719 Speaker 2: start start going with something. But but no, it's uh, 540 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 2: just kind of taking the day by day, just trying 541 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 2: to go out there and compete against every team. 542 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: Can you give us a hint, like is there a 543 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: certain direction maybe like hey, I might want to do 544 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: my own podcast with my brother. 545 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 2: Or yeah, yeah, I think I need like a like 546 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 2: a you know, like a celebratory something, maybe like I 547 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 2: do like a cartwheel, or maybe I do like a 548 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 2: I don't know, something crazy where where it's just unique 549 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: that this guy does that and it's you know, something 550 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: something crazy but me podcast, you know, something like that 551 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: would be you know, like you said, the Kelsey Brothers 552 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: do something like that. There's there's so many ways to 553 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 2: do it. I love playing golf. Maybe I can, you know, 554 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: wrap my my hands around playing golf in football. 555 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if there is a celebratory golf swing, yes, 556 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: you know, or do the Tiger Woods the fifth after 557 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: you make a long putt, right, you know, when you 558 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: score a touchdown, because obviously Kyler has put you on 559 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: blast now about your celebration. 560 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, now, I gotta now, I gotta figure it out. 561 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 2: I gotta be better for him, so so he can 562 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 2: he can tell the media I've changed and I got 563 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 2: a little swag to me. 564 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: So so outside of golf, I know you're very involved 565 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: back back home in Colorado with youth and you're going 566 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: to be doing a youth camp again in the off 567 00:21:59,119 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: season the summer. 568 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: Can you can you tell us a little bout Yeah? 569 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 2: I think my mom has always been involved in the community. 570 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: She's done a great job doing that and she's kind 571 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: of instilled into me like to give back, to help 572 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 2: out when you can and to be on this platform. 573 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 2: I just want to give back and to give back 574 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: to a community like my hometown that's done so much 575 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 2: for me. That's been a huge part of my success, 576 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: and I just want to give back. So last year 577 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: I did a kid's camp. This year, I want to 578 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,719 Speaker 2: do another one. You know, it was awesome. I had 579 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 2: a ton of people come out. I'm from a small 580 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 2: little town, but it was crazy how many people came 581 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 2: out from all over the state. So it was awesome. 582 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 2: I want to do that again and continue to do 583 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: that to give back to a community that has done 584 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 2: so much for me. 585 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: How about here locally, is there anything you've got your 586 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: you know, your eye on in terms of something you 587 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: want to do here? 588 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm actually tomorrow I'm doing a Christmas 589 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 2: drive where a bunch of kids are coming out two 590 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: Shields and I think there's fifteen kids and each kid, 591 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: you know, will have like a thousand dollars to spend, 592 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: which will be awesome underprivileged kids that have had a 593 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 2: hard time, you know, things like that. So I'm super 594 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 2: excited for that event. You know, I also thought about 595 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: doing another kid's camp out here, you know, maybe doing 596 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: one and out here in Arizona, one in Colorado, just 597 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: so I can kind of, you know, spread that out, 598 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: you know, throughout the different states. So I think that 599 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: would be really cool as well. So trying to do 600 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: everything I can to give back, and then I want 601 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 2: to be a part of that. 602 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: That's awesome. A couple more football questions and then we'll 603 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:16,239 Speaker 1: get you out of here. 604 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 2: Awesome. 605 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm just curious, what do you think is the next 606 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: step for you? As you kind of look at how 607 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: you've evolved and now your skills are in full display, 608 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: everybody seeing what you're doing, and defenses are saying what 609 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,719 Speaker 1: you're doing too, So obviously you're becoming more of a target. 610 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: They're gonna, you know, game plan a lot of times 611 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: for you. So what's what's the next step for you? 612 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 2: I think just becoming a complete tight end, you know, 613 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 2: making sure I can I can be a guy who 614 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: can can be an asset in the run game, a 615 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: guy who can can make plays in the past game. 616 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: But I want to be able to do both. I 617 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 2: want to be able to help in both. I want 618 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 2: to be able to be a great, great run blocker 619 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 2: where they don't have to take me off the field. 620 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: For run plays things like that. So I want to 621 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 2: be able to be a complete tight end. So so 622 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 2: defenses are always on their toes and not sure what 623 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: they're gonna get from me. 624 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: Because Wolf all the time we'll talk about how he 625 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: wants to see you become more of a blocker. I'm 626 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: sure you've heard him say that absolutely. So is that 627 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: Is that just a mindset? Is that a comfort level? 628 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: Is that understanding what you're doing in the run game? 629 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: All the above? None of the above. 630 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of it's a mindset and 631 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: just kind of comfort. Like you said, you know, when 632 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: you're playing that much, you kind of have the want 633 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: to and the will to go and you know, smack 634 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: your face on someone and things like that. So it's 635 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 2: definitely a mindset and things like that. But I want 636 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: to I want to be better. I want to be 637 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 2: better in that. I want to be better, you know, 638 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 2: full full, you know, complete tight end and help his 639 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: team and everywhere. 640 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: Well, listen, man, it's been great talk, idiot, it's been 641 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: fun watching you as well. So appreciate you. Final Yeah, absolutely, 642 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: thank you so much for having that was great, thanks man. Well, 643 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: as you can tell from that conversation, Tray's very thoughtful, 644 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: he's very humble, and he wants to help the team win. 645 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: He's here to win. He's here for the right reasons. 646 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: He's about the right things, and I think Cardinal fan 647 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: should be excited about that. And he's got some personality. 648 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: I'm really interested to see what he comes up with 649 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: for his touchdown celebration going forward. But I think he's 650 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: a guy that if you're a Cardinal fan, you connect 651 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: with and you catch on too. And I'll be really 652 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: curious to see what he does next year, because in 653 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: year two, Trey McBride has become one of the best 654 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: tight ends in the NFL. We are presented by BETTMGM, 655 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: the official sports betting partner of the Cardinals, and by 656 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: HeLa River Resorts and Casinos. 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