1 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: This this one Bill's Live, presented by Calida. Help. 2 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: All Right, welcome into day three of Bill's training camp 3 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: here in Saint John Fisher, Chris Brown, Mattie clap with 4 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: you and stay frosty, everybody, because the NFL Nike Bills 5 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 2: uniforms are set to make their debut in Week five 6 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: against the Patriots on Sunday Night Football. 7 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: In the words of Steve Tasker, it might be chilly. 8 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: We got a sneak peek to what these uniforms will 9 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: look like on week five, and it's very clear there 10 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: is a frosty appearance to them and they'll be making 11 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 2: their debut week five. So a very busy uniform schedule 12 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: that we're dealing with. Basically, Week five, you've got the 13 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: rivalry uniforms which will be worn against the Patriots. Week 14 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: six is the throwback AFL uniforms down in Atlanta for 15 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: Monday Night football, and then the Tampa Bay game will 16 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: be the other time at home, which I think is 17 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: week eleven, I want to say, where they'll wear the 18 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: AFL throwbacks again, and then week eighteen the Red helmets. 19 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 2: That is the full alternate uniform slate. We think could 20 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: there be something else you just never know. In the 21 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: final season of high Mark Stadium, what do you think frosty? 22 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: They look frosty. 23 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 3: I love it. 24 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 4: I love that Buffalo tapped into who they are in 25 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 4: the community when it comes to the weather in this place. 26 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 4: Icy uniforms, the frost coming over the Blue Bills uniform 27 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 4: and the video that they released it is epic. They 28 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 4: also released a video where they had players blindfolded walking 29 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 4: into what looked like a cooler and they remove the 30 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 4: blindfolds and get their reaction of these new jerseys. 31 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 3: Now, we don't see what the jerseys look like yet. 32 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 4: We will see that soon, but just seeing the player's 33 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 4: reactions to these jerseys being like this is so dope. 34 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 3: This is so cool. 35 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 4: I can't wait to see what they look like. The 36 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 4: Bills also release a really cool video for Game of Thrones. Lovers, 37 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 4: you'll love this one. Josh Allen's eyes turned to like 38 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 4: icy blue, which is the White Walkers and Game of Thrones. 39 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: You know, I've never watched Game of Thrones. 40 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: Chris Brown I training camp. We've perfect time to start. 41 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: I know we kinda we dropped the ball on that one. 42 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: I think there's another very popular one that we've never 43 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: seen yet either. 44 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: We were all over the Bear. 45 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: I've already plowed through season four of that, which has 46 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: totally left the door open for season five now. But yeah, 47 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: we missed the boat on Game of Thrones. I'm trying 48 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: to think, like, what were we doing. 49 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: The never too late to watch it again. 50 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a lot of it's like Viking oriented r. 51 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like Viking Nordic stuff. 52 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 4: It's like dragons with dragons stuff took. 53 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: But it's kind of like a very Nordic feel to it. 54 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 4: Yes, barbaric each other for land, and then there's this 55 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,839 Speaker 4: other thing called the White Walkers, and it turns out 56 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 4: to be this battle between good and evil and like 57 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 4: saving the entire world versus this other forces. 58 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: It's a good show. 59 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 4: Now the ending. A lot of people have opinions about 60 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 4: the ending, but I won't. I won't go there, just 61 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 4: in case you want to watch it. 62 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll see if we can. 63 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: I'm probably not carving out time in football season, but 64 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: maybe in the offseason I'll get around to it and 65 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: check it out because I've heard good things about it. 66 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: We've got a lot to get to today, and we 67 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: got to get to our bills notes for you here 68 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: on day three of training camp, and Taylor Rapp stole 69 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: the ball and the show three interceptions in practice today, 70 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: two during team periods, one during the one on one 71 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: session to finish practice when he jumped around by Reggie 72 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 2: Gilliam out in the flat. And it could not have 73 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 2: come at a better time because Bobby Babbitte addressed the 74 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: media earlier this morning and said when he was asked 75 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 2: to assess the first two days, he said, we're coming along. 76 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: He goes the one thing that is not good as 77 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: we only have one takeaway over the two practices, that's 78 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: not good. And so here comes Taylor Rap with three 79 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 2: takeaways today to up the count. So we'll catch up 80 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: with Taylor Rap right here at the bottom of the hour. 81 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: He joins us at one thirty. So it'll be nice 82 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: to check in with him after such a banner day 83 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: on the field. So we look forward to that conversation 84 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: along with how things are coming, along with Cole Bishop 85 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: knowing there's a very good chance those two could be 86 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 2: the safety tandem come Week one against the Baltimore Ravens. 87 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: I know I just mentioned it in passing to you 88 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 2: during practice when we're standing there on the sidelines, Maddie. 89 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: But josh Allen elite touch and layering of his throws today. 90 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: Did he have a couple of those picks of Taylor rap, Yes, 91 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: but tight window throws today were at an all time high. 92 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: He was on point with his ball location, his touch, 93 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: and layering of throws. And for those of you that 94 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 2: don't know what layering of throws means, there are a 95 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: lot of times where a quarterback when he wants to 96 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 2: put a throw deep down the field or between the 97 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: second and third levels, he has to put enough on 98 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 2: it to get it over the linebackers, but not so 99 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 2: much that it gives the safety an opportunity to make 100 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 2: an interception. So over the linebacker under the safety. He 101 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 2: was doing that at an elite level too. 102 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, he had a really nice ball to Dunkin Kaid. 103 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 4: Dunkin Kaid made a great grab and ended up turning 104 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 4: it into a very nice gain. Alan had another one 105 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 4: on a ball to Joshua Palmer that he basically threw 106 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 4: Palmer open, but cam Lewis was there with that sticky 107 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 4: coverage and Palmer couldn't come down with the grab. But 108 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 4: he had some really nice throats today the first day 109 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 4: of training camp for the offense was a little inconsistent. 110 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 4: They had stretches yesterday and today. You saw that finesse 111 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 4: by Josh Allen on certain throws. 112 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was one over the shoulder throw to Paulmer 113 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: That was nice that he that he did pull in 114 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 2: at one point at a different stage of practice. So 115 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: it's nice to see him utilizing just about everybody in 116 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: the passing game. Zach Davidson was a very busy player today. 117 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: He's getting a lot of first team reps because Dawson 118 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: Knox says, we know is still dealing with the hamstring injury. 119 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: He's still on act he's still on the non football 120 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: injury list. So Davidson has been a big beneficiary with 121 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: the first team unit. He had five receptions today, like 122 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: Josh was, it was to a point where Josh was 123 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: looking for him and he is a huge target. 124 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: And you know Matt, he's six foot. 125 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: Seven and he can really run for a six to 126 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: seven guy. So he was a factor today and probably 127 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: the biggest factor in. 128 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: The passing game. 129 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 4: Davidson had a couple catches in the flats there, and 130 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 4: when you have a six to seven human being in 131 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 4: the flat of a football field. He sticks out like 132 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 4: a sore thumb, and it's easy for him to pluck 133 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 4: the ball out of nowhere and go and plow through 134 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 4: a couple defensive players. There's no tackling right now, so 135 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 4: you're not really trying to bring a guy to the ground. 136 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 4: But Zach Davidson had a day. The tight ends got 137 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 4: a lot of targets today. 138 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, kin Kaid Davidson, even Khaliki Latu had a catcher 139 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: to the undrafted rookie so and Jackson Hawes factored in 140 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: as well. I noticed him more in the one on 141 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: ones than in the team session. Again, he's doing a 142 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 2: lot of that dirty work up on the line of scrimmage. 143 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: But it was encouraging to see the tight ends worked 144 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: into the passing game. TJ Sanders yep flashed today. He 145 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: absolutely abused a guard during the team session. He was 146 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: passing him in a blink and he forced Mike White 147 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 2: to have to flush out of the pocket to avoid 148 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: the pressure. And I don't know whether they would have 149 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: called it a sack or not. He did throw the 150 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: ball on a check down, so maybe he gets that 151 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: out in true live football. It was nice to see Sanders, 152 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: you know, using pass rush techniques to get that penetration 153 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 2: because that's what they need him to be this year. 154 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 4: Sanders has been consistent to start training camp. He is 155 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 4: a defensive tackle rookie who showed on early, showed up 156 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 4: early in OTAs and mandatory mini camp. You're doing a 157 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 4: lot less in those practices, you're doing a lot more 158 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 4: in training camp. But he's a rookie that I've had 159 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 4: my eye on and has shined to start training camp. 160 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 4: When you look at the other rookie defensive lineman that 161 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 4: he's competing with. 162 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's no It's worthy to note 163 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: that there are some players getting mixed in for first 164 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: team reps now as we enter day three, and it 165 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: didn't just start today. This has been happening, so there's 166 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: a pattern here. And Tyrell Shavers is a player that 167 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: has been rotated up to the first group. Max Harston 168 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 2: is a guy that's been rotated up to the first 169 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 2: group and then for varying reasons, like we saw Shack 170 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: Thompson get rotated up today, Javon Solomon got rotated up 171 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: in the absence of aj Epanessa, who was a non 172 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 2: participant after leaving practice yesterday. Dorian Williams also a non 173 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: participant in a walking boot out here. Hopefully that's not 174 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 2: a long term thing, but it's encouraging to see young 175 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: players like Harston Tyrrel Shavers, who has been toiling away 176 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: on this roster for four years now too, spent exclusively 177 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: on the practice squad. He finally got a major call 178 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: up last year and in a blowout win I think 179 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 2: it was over the Jets had the long forty nine 180 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 2: yard touchdown on a throw from Mitch Trubisky late in 181 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 2: that game to kind of make it a walk and 182 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: a blowout. So nice to see guys kind of working 183 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: their way into more opportunities with the top. 184 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 4: Group, and this is the time during training camp to 185 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 4: kind of mix things and match things. Bobby Babbage spoke 186 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 4: about the opportunities that some of these guys get. 187 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: Joe Brady as well. 188 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 4: Saying that this is the time to experiment with our players, 189 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 4: figure out what we have, figure out whose role is what, 190 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 4: And Babbage basically said the same thing on the defensive 191 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 4: side of the ball today. Training camp is about getting 192 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 4: that callous, is about building those relationships and then players 193 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 4: carving out the role that they need to have for themselves. 194 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: Up and down day For Keon Coleman, he had a 195 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: sixty yard catch and run for a touchdown, but he 196 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 2: also had three drops on the day and he had 197 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 2: some other receptions too. But securing the football, tucking it away, 198 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: completing the play, it's something that's just got to get 199 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 2: more consistent for him. And again it's early in camp, 200 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 2: but when you are a top draft pick, which he 201 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: was last year. I know he wasn't a first round pick, 202 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 2: but he was their first pick in the draft, there 203 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 2: is going to be pressure to perform and perform quickly. 204 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 2: And we're in year two now and people are expecting 205 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 2: a noticeable step up in his performance and his consistency, 206 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 2: and he had a tough time with that today. 207 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 4: I know Bobby Babbitch is on the defensive side of 208 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 4: the ball, but he spoke about younger players, having younger 209 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 4: players on defense and kind of the anxiety that comes 210 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 4: along with being in a spot, having these expectations and 211 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,599 Speaker 4: needing to perform up to those expectations. Kean Coleman was 212 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 4: very honest and open about his rookie season and very 213 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 4: open about what he needs to do in year two. 214 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 4: You wonder if so some of those expectations are in 215 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 4: your mind as you are running a route and trying 216 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 4: to catch a football, and you want it so bad 217 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 4: for the kid. We're standing on the sidelines and it's 218 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 4: easy to cheer for the great plays, but when plays 219 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 4: don't happen, it's tough and you want it for these guys, 220 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 4: and you know they're working so hard to try to 221 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 4: get to the place where they need to be. Hopefully 222 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 4: Coleman can have a and have a practice on Sunday 223 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 4: tomorrow's an off day where he kind of redeems himself. 224 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, because to your point, they're on a couple of 225 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: the drops. He's running open like he's won the route, 226 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 2: he's created separation. He's coming across the deep middle and 227 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: Josh puts it on the money. It's a little low, 228 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: maybe it's by his belt, but it's not behind him 229 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: and he can pull it in and it's just like 230 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: because not only would that be a first down for sure, 231 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: but now he's running after the catch because he's created 232 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: that separation so good last year. Yeah, So it was 233 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: just it was tough at times knowing how badly he 234 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 2: wants to succeed to not see it come to free. 235 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 4: It's usually when that stuff happens when you've ran the route, 236 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 4: you've won against your defensive back or cornerback who's on you, 237 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 4: and you're trying to make the catch. It's like you're 238 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 4: thinking about running before you're catching the football, and it's 239 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 4: like you got to prioritize the right things when the 240 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 4: ball's in the air. 241 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: Secure the ball first. Obviously, Matt Mlano had a sack 242 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: on a blitz today. As I said, Josh Palmer made 243 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 2: a nice over the shoulder catch on a thirty yard 244 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 2: pass play. Cam Lewis with a couple of pass breakups today. 245 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 2: He was active and around the football. And Trey White 246 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: had a nice PBu late in practice on Khalil Shakir. 247 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: Shaki caught it over his head and then Trey came 248 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 2: in and punched it out for an incomplete pass. So 249 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: good to see Trey factoring into the play making side 250 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: of things. We're gonna go around the NFL here quickly 251 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: brought to you by Colia Health, the official healthcare system 252 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills. A weird situation in Las Vegas, 253 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 2: manny A Raiders part ways with defensive tackle Christian Wilkins, 254 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: who many Bills fans remember from his days in Miami. 255 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: Just a year after he signs a four year, one 256 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 2: hundred four million dollar deal, Wilkins released and it's going 257 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: to be designated terminated vested veteran. He was recovering from 258 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 2: a Jones fracture in his foot that he suffered last October, 259 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: but the team is clearly not happy with how he 260 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: has treated the rehab for the injury, so they voided 261 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: the last thirty five point two million on the contract 262 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: that was guaranteed, and the belief was Wilkins was going 263 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: to need another surgery in the eyes of the Raiders. 264 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: He said, he's not getting that surgery. So then the 265 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: Raiders said, well, we're avoiding the guarantees on your contract 266 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: due to failure to maintain your physical condition to play. 267 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: So they believed if he had surgery he'd be playing 268 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: by now. He's obviously not because he didn't get the surgery, 269 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: so they feel they have a leg to stand on there. 270 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: Wilkins has fifty days from June fourth to ask the 271 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: NFLPA to file aggrievance on his behalf. The union did 272 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: so yesterday, the last day it was eligible, so the 273 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: Raiders try to pull a fast one on him. They 274 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: want to pull his guarantees. They released him a day. 275 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 2: They gave him a day to file a grievance on 276 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: a fifty day window because it was retroactive to June fourth. 277 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: That's bad business. That's bad business as far as I'm concerned. 278 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: The union had no comment Thursday night. The next step 279 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: will be a hearing after this grievance has been filed. 280 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: And I hate to say this, but there are already 281 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: murmurs that the Patriots are interested in acquiring Christian Wilkins. 282 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: They have cap space, as we know, and Mike Vrabel, 283 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: when he was asked about it in his press conference today, 284 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: said that he has met Christian Wilkins, and he knows 285 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: him because he recruited him in his early coaching days 286 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: at the college level. So he clearly thinks he can 287 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: make a connection. That would be a formidable defensive front. 288 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: Christian Wilkins, Christian Barmore, and then Milton Williams, who they 289 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: signed from Philadelphia. That is a threesome in the middle 290 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: of that line. That would make them very difficult as 291 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: a defensive front, particularly in the run front. So let's 292 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: hope that doesn't happen. 293 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 3: No, thank you, so please. 294 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 295 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: Justin Fields back at practice after dislocating his toe yesterday, 296 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: but he was on the sidelines just watching. 297 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: He's listed his day to day. 298 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: Aaron rodgers first past in Steelers camp was an int 299 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: to Patrick Queen, Yeah to Pittsburgh. He insists it is 300 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: not a bad omen for what lies ahead for him 301 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: in his year in Pittsburgh. He claims that there are 302 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: things and throws you like to try and practice, and 303 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: so sometimes they don't work out. So he said, it's 304 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: good to get it out of the way. 305 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 3: Okay, sounds good. 306 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: Okay, spin doctor, what throw are you trying on your 307 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: first throw. 308 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: At the camp? Like, really you expect us to buy that? 309 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 6: I don't know. 310 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 2: There's something about him that really just rubs me the 311 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 2: wrong way. Like he thinks he's the smartest guy in 312 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: the room all the time, and like we can't see 313 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: through that, Like, are you really experimenting with a throw 314 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: on your first throw? You're just trying to get your 315 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 2: feet under you make some completions, even as a forty 316 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 2: one year old quarterback. 317 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: You're not experimenting with jack squad. 318 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 4: Trying to stay I'm not buying a training camp, especially 319 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 4: walking out there for your first plays as a Pittsburgh Steeler. 320 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: And then finally, free agent tight end Noah Fant visiting 321 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: with the Saints today. He was released by the Seahawks 322 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: earlier in the week, so we'll see if he signs there. 323 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: That's a roster desperate for talent, so it wouldn't shock 324 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 2: me if they come to an agreement and he's in a 325 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: New Orleans Saint before too long. We want to welcome 326 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 2: in NFL on CBS sideline reporter Evan Washburn. 327 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: He's gonna do his best. Chris collins Worth sly to 328 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: the middle. 329 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: Here because that's where your headset lives. So can you 330 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 2: squeeze through. Let's see, let's get the wheelt wheels up here, 331 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 2: and we'll welcome in Evan, who took in practice today. 332 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: You're at Bill's training camp as he's making the rounds 333 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: in preparation for his CBS telecasts, because undoubtedly you'll have 334 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 2: a Bill's game or two, right we figure, so welcome in. 335 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: Thanks for the time, because this is kind of like 336 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 2: an annual visit for you. We appreciate you having. 337 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 7: I was saying to Josh Allen, we were doing our 338 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 7: annual training camp chat and it's one of those things 339 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 7: where you turn your head and or you for now 340 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 7: it's you look at your phone, you're looking for an 341 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 7: old picture and you go, wow, this is this is 342 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 7: eight years of this thing. 343 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 5: This is Yeah, it's wild. 344 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 2: So let's begin here just with today. I know, you 345 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: know you're trying to pick the brains of people because 346 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: you're you kind of drop yourself in and then you're 347 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 2: you're before you know what, you're bouncing out and you're 348 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 2: off to another place. Just some of your thoughts about 349 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 2: today's Obviously, Tailor Rap had a nice day with three interceptions. 350 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 2: But how about Josh's touch and layering of throws today. 351 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 2: I mean, I know he's had a couple of picks, 352 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 2: but just elite level layering in touch today. 353 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: It just seemed from. 354 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 7: Him agreed, and it's interesting talking to him. It was 355 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 7: actually sort of off camera. Were just catching up about 356 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 7: where he is physically at twenty nine years old, and 357 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 7: one of his off season priorities been where does he 358 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 7: like his weight to be? And he made the I said, 359 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 7: you look leaner. You look in terms of body composition 360 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 7: a little bit different. Granted they're not wearing pads, so 361 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 7: that always makes things everything look a little slimmer. But 362 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 7: he was making the point and it reminds me of 363 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 7: the Brady years down the stretch, where it's like he's 364 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 7: all about the pliability up here and just the elasticity 365 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 7: of it. And you can see that in the way 366 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 7: that he now throws the ball. It's like he's here 367 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 7: and it's just here. And the ability to layer from 368 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 7: that and to generate different velocity trajectory with not a 369 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 7: lot of movement and not being so tight in all, 370 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 7: you know, muscled up, but have the the that sort 371 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 7: of snap in the in the muscles. 372 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 5: Whatever it ends up doing, it looks good and it works. 373 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: He even had a side arm throw Maddie and I 374 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: saw he go, he drops the shoulder, does a side 375 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: arm throw to fit it through a crack on a 376 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 2: checkdown to her back. 377 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 3: It was insane. 378 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 7: Well, I always think when they don't have the shoulder 379 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 7: pads on, I do think it allows them to really 380 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 7: kind of that's a good point is you don't have 381 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 7: even as small as they are encumbered, but you're not 382 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 7: as encumbered by it. 383 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 5: But yeah, he looks dialed for sure. 384 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 4: In addition, to that, what's the biggest takeaway that you 385 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 4: took from your conversation with Josh Allen today. 386 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 7: I just love where his head's at right now. He 387 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 7: seems to be in a really good place. Now, you 388 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 7: could argue, why wouldn't he be in a good place. 389 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 7: He's twenty nine years old, He's seemingly going to be 390 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 7: part of this organization for the entirety of his career. 391 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 7: He's making more money than anybody could ever imagine. He 392 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 7: just got married. Things are in a good place. But 393 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 7: I also think the flip side of that, and you 394 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,959 Speaker 7: guys live and breathe this every day, especially from your fans, 395 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 7: there's this you would think, maybe this angst of like, man, 396 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 7: this has got to happen. I've got to break through. 397 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 7: I've got to get to a super Bowl. I've got 398 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 7: to win a super Bowl. It means nothing if I 399 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 7: don't do that. He actually referenced the Scottie Scheffler comment 400 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 7: ahead of the Open Championship of my perspective, and it 401 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 7: was in reference to me asking him some form of 402 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 7: how do you handle what is a feeling of I've 403 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 7: done everything I can do and I still can't get 404 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 7: where I want to go and where everybody wants us 405 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 7: to go. And he just seems in a great place. 406 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 7: I don't want to say at peace with where they are, 407 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 7: because there's still the competitor in him, but that recognition 408 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 7: and I think we can all feel this because we're 409 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 7: around athletes and teams every day. It is truly, I 410 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 7: don't want to say a crap shoot, but there's just 411 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 7: a reality that you can do everything and it might 412 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 7: not happen. So the sooner you get on board with that, 413 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 7: both positively and negatively, the more sanity you'll have. 414 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a maturity to him, yes, that I think 415 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: is a little different now that he's entering his what 416 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 2: is his ninth youthh season, And yeah, there's a little 417 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 2: more zen in there too, like he's just kind of 418 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: at peace. And you know, I think he's a happily 419 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 2: married man and I think that has kind of influenced 420 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: his you know, maturity and just he's quite literally settling 421 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: down just with everything his game, his life, so and 422 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 2: I think that puts him in a very good place 423 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 2: headspace wise, you know, for the next season of football. 424 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 2: James Cook spoke yesterday, I'm sure you saw a lot 425 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 2: of what he had to say, it feels like he 426 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: would like to continue his career here. I think he 427 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: feels and recognizes what an asset it is to be 428 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 2: in the same offensive backfield as Josh behind a top 429 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 2: five offensive line in the league. He knows that benefits him, 430 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 2: but I think in the same breath, he also knows 431 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 2: this is probably my one best chance to make life 432 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: changing money a second contract, and it almost seems like 433 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,959 Speaker 2: it's put him in a bit of a he feels 434 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 2: a little torn just listening to him yesterday. 435 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 7: Agreed, But I think he's handling it in a way 436 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 7: that you would hope would be rewarded, not just because 437 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 7: of the performance and the value to the organization, but 438 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 7: for a team and you all live and breathe it 439 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 7: every day. Seems to value the mental side, the commitment, 440 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 7: the character more than maybe any other team in the league. 441 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 7: You can't ask for more when it comes to a 442 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 7: contract situation dispute if you want to call it, Yeah, 443 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 7: where the player not only is in attendance but fully 444 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 7: committed from a practice standpoint. The unfortunate thing for us 445 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 7: is that we just don't know exactly. I know there's 446 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 7: reports about what numbers he wants or what he has 447 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 7: said he wants, and we don't know exactly what has 448 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 7: been offered. My hope would be that that gap, while 449 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 7: to us would be astronomical one when you get into 450 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 7: the tens of millions, a recognition to all the things 451 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 7: you laid out. One of the best offensive lines in football, 452 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 7: one of the top three quarterbacks in the NFL, an 453 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 7: offense that is absolutely humming, bring everything back that values 454 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 7: you that, if it were me, would make up for 455 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 7: whatever proverbial gap would be in the money that I 456 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 7: would want, not knowing that that money even exists anywhere else. 457 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 2: Not to mention the fact that he's only played forty 458 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: five percent of the snaps the last two years. They 459 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 2: have a three man rotation that they like a lot, 460 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 2: and every indication is that's going to continue. 461 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 8: Now. 462 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: James has expressed that he would like to play more 463 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 2: on third down. But I still think Ty Johnson's going 464 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 2: to be on the field, and if I'm the Bills. 465 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: Put him at wide out. 466 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 2: He can run routes Like at the end of that 467 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 2: Chiefs game in the ANFC title game last year, He's 468 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: not on the field the final two minutes because they're 469 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 2: in hurry up two minutes, d real mode and Ty 470 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: Johnson's on the field and there's no James Cook. Who 471 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: was He and Curtis Samuel were arguably the two biggest 472 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 2: difference makers besides Josh on the offensive side of the 473 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 2: ball in that game. Split him out wide, get him 474 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 2: on the field. He was a problem for the Chiefs 475 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 2: had no answer for him in that game. 476 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: It was troubling. 477 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 4: And when talking about running backs, it's an interesting conversation 478 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 4: because every team is going to place a different type 479 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 4: of value on a running back. Joe Brady, Buffalo's offensive coordinator, 480 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 4: was asked about that value and Brady said, look at 481 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 4: our offense last year, we value the running back. James 482 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 4: Cook had sixteen rushing touchdowns last year. When you watched 483 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 4: this offense, how much is James Cook a part of 484 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 4: what they're trying to do. 485 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 7: He's a huge part because in my opinion, they don't 486 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 7: have right now a proven alpha like the ball and 487 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 7: you guys lived it for all those years with Diggs 488 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 7: where in a moment of we got to have it, 489 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 7: here's our guy. That creates a nervous energy because it's 490 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 7: who's our guy, But it's also a positive and I 491 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 7: think you saw this last year where defenses aren't sure 492 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 7: who that guy is. The two or I should say three, 493 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 7: because Shakir proved he could do it in a consistent form. 494 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 7: Dalton Kinkaid, Khalil Shakir and James Cook to me or 495 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 7: your three gotta have it players in moments. So I 496 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 7: don't know if that deems him from a running back perspective, 497 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 7: but I would want that if I'm one Josh to 498 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 7: Joe Brady, Sean McDermot, who've run the whole thing, it's 499 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 7: like he to me, has proven that he can be 500 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 7: a we got to have it player, and you need 501 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 7: to have as many of those as possible. I think 502 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 7: the Bills have three capable of doing it, and he 503 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 7: would be, you know, right there with Kinkaid or Shakir. 504 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 2: The big equation in changing the fortunes of this team 505 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: and helping them get over the hump is obviously sitting 506 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball. Whether he made 507 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: heavy investments. As we've discussed with you before, the challenge 508 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: now is not only pulling all those new pieces together, 509 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: but doing it knowing you're going to be without two 510 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 2: veteran pickups in Michael Hoyt and Larry Ogan Joe for 511 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: the first six weeks of the season out on suspension, 512 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: which means they're likely to rely on more of the 513 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 2: young players that they added through the draft. This is 514 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 2: a great player development staff and has been over the years. 515 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 2: But that's a big ask for that front half of 516 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,479 Speaker 2: the schedule there through the middle of October. 517 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 5: No doubt. I mean, just think of Week one. 518 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 7: You're going to have to deal with everything that Lamar 519 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 7: and they do offensively to disguise, and then Derrick Henry's 520 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 7: right there to run it down your throat literally and figuratively. Look, 521 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 7: it seems and I Maddie and I were talking during practice, 522 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 7: it seems like every year I come out here, at 523 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 7: least in recent years, and the big question mark is 524 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 7: is this defense going to take that next step? Can 525 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 7: what version can they be? Is this the year where 526 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 7: the pass rush is more dynamic? I know, in I'm 527 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 7: telling you things you all know, and I'm sure your 528 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 7: viewers and listeners do as well. Statistically, there's moments of 529 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 7: exactly what it is you're looking for. I think it's 530 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 7: more what is this group down the stretch? And I 531 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 7: think last year was injuries. This year, it will be 532 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 7: the start without those two guys. Excuse me, but you 533 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 7: would hope that player development. And I think we see 534 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 7: this early in the year on both sides of the ball. 535 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,719 Speaker 7: If there's an area that you have more continuity and chemistry, 536 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 7: and in this case, you know quarterback like Josh, you're 537 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 7: gonna have to lean on them like this defense is 538 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 7: going to have some growing pains early in the season. 539 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 7: I think that's a fair characterization to make. 540 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 4: I got one last one before we go. You cover 541 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 4: the NFL as a whole. How do you stack the 542 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 4: big three up against each other in the AFC The Bills, 543 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 4: the Ravens, and the Chiefs. 544 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 7: Right now, man, pick your poison. I'm good with any 545 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 7: of those three. I think you have to allow for 546 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 7: the fact that the Chiefs have owned this conference in 547 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 7: a lot of ways for the most part, so until 548 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 7: they're knocked off, they deserve to have that that top spot. 549 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 7: I think all three are interchangeable. I think the larger 550 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 7: interesting and fun conversation is it's so clearly Baltimore, Buffalo 551 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 7: in Kansas City, and then to me, it's a next 552 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 7: three of Cincinnati, Pittsburgh and Houston and then it's like 553 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 7: this real severe drop off, and you could argue that 554 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 7: those next three it's a pretty heavy drop off from Buffalo, 555 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 7: Kansas City, and Baltimore, And in my time doing this, 556 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 7: I can't and I'm sure I could. I mean, I 557 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 7: just think of the New England years and all those things. 558 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 7: To have three to your question, Maddie, where it's they 559 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 7: really do feel like any three version of those three 560 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 7: can pop out of the AFC and it would totally 561 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 7: make sense. It's oddly fun and kind of a boring 562 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 7: conversation in late July because you just you never want 563 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 7: to rush away a football season, but I kind of 564 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 7: want to rush and just see what happens fast forward 565 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 7: to that December and January and see what happens how those. 566 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: I get three sort out and I do. 567 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 7: I always maybe I'm just a suck or for when 568 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 7: it's right, but man, when Burrow, Chase and Higgins got 569 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 7: it going, and if that defense can just be you 570 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 7: talk about like a defense in Buffalo that's gonna have 571 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 7: some growing pains and needs to take another step. If 572 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 7: Bengals defense is just serviceable, that to me is a 573 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 7: team that that is going to be primed and ready. 574 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: At this point, I don't even know if that's a 575 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: possibility right now without the mess they. 576 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 3: Said they have to score forty points a game. 577 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: They have to score like forty a game to win 578 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: more than they lose. That they scored thirty points a 579 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 2: good number of times last year and loss. 580 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 6: I was revisit. 581 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 7: I mean I lived it being on the sideline for 582 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 7: a lot of their games. 583 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 6: But it was. 584 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 7: Helpful to rewatch that quarterback show and watch what Burrow 585 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 7: went through in that offense. 586 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, over forty touchdown passes right, forty. 587 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 7: Three losing games in the to your point, in the 588 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 7: high thirties, and it was, it was, it was wild. 589 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Evan, thanks for the time as always. Hopefully we 590 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: get to see you down the line here in the 591 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: regular season. I know you only get your assignment's piece meal, 592 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 2: three or four at a time. 593 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 7: So if you guys are in that one o'clock window, 594 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 7: doesn't you. 595 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: Don't have as many as we used to. You're right 596 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: about that, but a good thing. Hopefully we see you 597 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 2: down the line. I appreciate the time as always. Thanks 598 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 2: for that. That's Devin washbur An NFL on CBS sideline reporter. 599 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: We take a break and we're back with more. Here 600 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 2: are One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo 601 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 2: Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live training camp coverage, 602 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 2: Day three here at Saint John Fisher University. Chris Brown, 603 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 2: Maddy glab and joined on. Said, now, number nine in 604 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 2: your program, number one on your safety list, it's Taylor 605 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: Rap and Taylor had a banner day today. Thank you 606 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 2: for great timing we had you on the show. We 607 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 2: knew we were getting you on the show. And I'm like, 608 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 2: pick one, pick two, pick three, and then here's the other. 609 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: Part that's hilarious. 610 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 2: Bobby Babbage spoke to the media this morning and they 611 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 2: were asking him, oh, the first two days gone, and 612 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: he finishes his comment by saying, we have only one 613 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: takeaway through the first two days, so that's not good. 614 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: So well done in improving the quota. 615 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 8: There. 616 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, three picks today. I guess I guess that what 617 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 2: they say is true. 618 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: It comes in bunches. 619 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, everyone, every every DV knows that it comes 620 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 9: in bunches. So it's uh, yeah, it's great to get 621 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 9: a few under my belt. 622 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, so they come in bunches. 623 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 4: But what was it about today that you were able 624 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 4: to get in great positioning and make some very athletic 625 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 4: plays because that one interception that you had was a 626 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 4: diving interception. 627 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 3: That was, oh by the sideline, athletically gifted. Taylor Rapp. 628 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 9: Yeah, Yeah, the first one was you know, I got 629 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 9: to see it on film, but just just feeling it 630 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 9: right now, that was that was a pretty you know, 631 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 9: pretty pretty good pick my my career. 632 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and now being here for some time, how much 633 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 4: has this system and the game slowed down for you 634 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 4: now that you have a very true understanding of what 635 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 4: you're supposed to be doing in this defense. 636 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, I always I always say, like second 637 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 9: year to system, you always take the biggest jump, and 638 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 9: you know, third year obviously you you hope to continue 639 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 9: taking jumps. And you know, I felt like I've I've 640 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 9: you know, taken a huge jump as well going into 641 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 9: year three. So you know, just just excited to keep 642 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 9: it rolling, you know, keep keep going at it. 643 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 8: You know. 644 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 9: Cole, my guy right here, he's going to year two, 645 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 9: so I'm looking forward to seeing him, you know, take 646 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 9: a big jump too. 647 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 6: Yeah. 648 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: My my office is at the front end of the 649 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: field house, so I am kind of privious to what's 650 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: going on in there throughout the calendar year, and you 651 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 2: kind of made the field house your office this winter. 652 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you were there a lot. 653 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, and Paul got after and Cole. 654 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: Was right there with you. 655 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 2: Maybe just talk about what you two were trying to 656 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 2: accomplish as a tandem through the course of the winter months, 657 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: because it's hard to replicate eleven on eleven football when 658 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 2: it's just the two of you. 659 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: So how did you. 660 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 2: Best manifest bonding as a TA and number one and 661 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 2: then number two getting to a place where you feel 662 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 2: comfortable on the field working off one another. 663 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, obviously, I don't think people really realize 664 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 9: how close you guys got to be as as a 665 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 9: safety tandem. You know, obviously here before the legacy of 666 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 9: Jordan Poyer and Michael Hyde. They've been together eight years, yeah, 667 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 9: you know, and you know just the continuity that they had, 668 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 9: and you know, I can't say enough how important, how 669 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 9: critical that is to be on the same page with 670 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 9: your guy and you know, really you know him, you know, 671 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 9: thinking what I'm thinking, and you know, finishing my sentences, 672 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 9: finishing my you know what what I'm thinking and everything, 673 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 9: and so you know, we we set out this off season. 674 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 9: You know, I personally set out. I took pride in 675 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 9: you know, us us working together all off season, and 676 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 9: like you said, you know we're in the fieldhouse, yeah, 677 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 9: you know, in in the Winterbruary. Yeah, you know, in 678 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 9: the in the in the dark days in Buffalo. You know, 679 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 9: no one, no one on the team is around, you know, 680 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 9: so oh we know you tell you, But but me 681 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 9: and me and Cole, you know, we were here, you know, 682 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 9: putting in the work. And you know it's just you. 683 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 9: You put in the work in the off season and 684 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 9: it really shows during the season. 685 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 2: But are you sitting in film and you're just watching 686 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 2: some film together. 687 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 9: You know, little everything, little everything, and you know, like 688 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 9: you said, you know, it's it's hard to replicate eleven 689 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 9: eleven a lot eleven on eleven football, And so you know, 690 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 9: just putting ourselves in a situation where we're working our eyes, 691 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 9: our feet, our progression of a play and stuff like that, 692 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 9: and making it as realistic as it can so it 693 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 9: can translate to the football. 694 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 2: So one more and I'm sorry, I'm not trying to 695 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 2: freeze out here, Maddie, but like so, if there's only 696 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 2: two of you, and I want to get some field 697 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 2: work in. Are you putting landmarks out there like cones? 698 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 2: And then he's behind you and he's trying to read 699 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 2: your alignment so he knows how he has to play. 700 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 2: Do you do some of those games. 701 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 6: Too, Like, yeah, you know, a little bit everything you gotta. 702 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 9: You know, we we really opened up our imagination and 703 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 9: and just try to you know, obviously, we we also 704 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 9: try to make the off season as hard as we 705 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 9: can and make it as difficult as we can when 706 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 9: we're running our drills out there, because you want it 707 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 9: to be harder in the off season and you want 708 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 9: it to be easier out on the football field when 709 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 9: we're actually going through that. So, you know, we've had 710 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 9: an incredible off season together. Yeah, you know, just just 711 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 9: the first three days of practice, you know. 712 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: We're we're just seeing a difference. 713 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 9: I feel, it's just incredible, you know, chemistry, and you know, 714 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 9: it's just uh, I'm looking forward to just keep keep ascending. 715 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 9: And you know it's really those those dark hours in 716 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 9: the off season, you know, they really pay off, you 717 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 9: know when the bright lights come on, you know, when 718 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 9: you're out here with fans and the media and everything. 719 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 9: So it's just it's been it's been an incredible off season. 720 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 4: Cold Bishop got a few starts in his rookie year. 721 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 4: What is different about Col Bishop in year two? 722 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I just think his maturity. 723 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 9: You know, obviously he came in as a rookie and 724 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 9: he was I mean, he is as mature as they 725 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 9: came and come as a as a twenty twenty one 726 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 9: year old and you know, just just so eager to learn, 727 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 9: you know, just being a sponge, just soaking up everything 728 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 9: and you know, just just putting his ego aside. And 729 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 9: you know, obviously he's drafted pretty high and stuff like that, 730 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 9: and you know, he's he's he's had to do everything 731 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 9: he had to do to earn his right and uh 732 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 9: you know, earn his playing time and just done everything 733 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 9: the right way. And you know, I can't say enough 734 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 9: great things about the kid. You know, just just super 735 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 9: excited to keep keep seeing his development and stuff like that. 736 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 9: And yeah, it's gonna be fun. 737 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 2: Lean muscle, I mean you look a little more yoked. 738 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 1: Did you add a little lean muscle? 739 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:49,439 Speaker 6: Like? Yeah? 740 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 2: I mean you're you got a lot of work in 741 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,879 Speaker 2: the box and it can get a little nasty against. 742 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 6: A little nasty. Trust me, I think always did. 743 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 2: You make it a point of emphasis for your off 744 00:37:59,040 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 2: season plan? 745 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 6: Yeah? You know what? 746 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 9: Actually, big shout out to Will Greenberg. You know, our 747 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 9: strength coach. You know, I uh really love what he's doing. 748 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 9: You know, his his program, what he's put into place, 749 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 9: and you know I have full trust in him, and 750 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 9: you know, everything that he's done is is is my 751 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 9: kind of my kind of ball, you know, in terms 752 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 9: of his program, everything the way he does. You know, 753 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 9: our warm ups are you know, you see guys after 754 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 9: after practice. 755 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 6: Actually we have like this. 756 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 9: Little recovery circuit and cool down. You take your shoes off, 757 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 9: you get grounded a little bit, touch your feet to 758 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 9: the grass. 759 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 6: You know, I'm I'm all about that, you know. 760 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 9: You know, just so everything he does, everything he programs, 761 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 9: every set of a workout, every run, every rep is 762 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 9: so intentional. And you know, I think, as I've gotten 763 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 9: through my years as a as a VET, and this 764 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 9: is going to year seven, it's crazy. I always say 765 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 9: I say that, Now going to year seven, it's crazy. 766 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 9: I feel like the years have flown by. But what 767 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 9: I've learned is, you know, as you get older, you 768 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 9: don't always have to work as hard. 769 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 6: You don't have to put in. 770 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 9: I'm not saying you don't have to work hard, but 771 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 9: it's almost like you work smarter and not harder. And 772 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 9: I've always been the guy that's always more and more 773 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 9: and more and more. But your body can only take 774 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 9: that so much, especially as you get older. I mean, 775 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 9: I'm twenty seven years old. That's that's pretty old. And 776 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 9: football years, yeah, I know, you know, I got to 777 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 9: today's White and Taren Jossy a little older, but you know, 778 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 9: twenty seven years old in football years, that's that's pretty 779 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 9: You employ, you. 780 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 2: Know, as you get on in ears, you employ an efficiency, yeah, or. 781 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 1: Exactly to your regiment. 782 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 6: Yeah. 783 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 9: And so it's just you figure out, you know, I 784 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 9: think I always tell the young guys, you know, figure 785 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 9: out your routine, figure out what works best for you. 786 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 9: Look at guys who have been in Look at trade 787 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 9: Avius White. You know he's going to the year ten. 788 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 9: Look why is he going into year ten? Why is 789 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 9: he sticking around and having so much success? Look at 790 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,439 Speaker 9: his root, look at what he's doing throughout the day, 791 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 9: and pick pieces, try him and see what works for you. 792 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 9: Not everyone, i mean not everyone is going to be 793 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 9: doing what I'm doing. I'm promise you that no one 794 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 9: is a psycho as me, and no one is going 795 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 9: to be doing but there might be little pieces here 796 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 9: and there that you can take and make part of 797 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 9: your routine. So I always tell young guys, you know, 798 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 9: figure out your routine, figure out what works best for you, 799 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 9: figure out what works best for your body to make 800 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 9: you feel as good out there on the football field, 801 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 9: and you know, try to make it as efficient as 802 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 9: possible because you don't need to be doing these I mean, 803 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 9: I can go on for days. 804 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 6: This is a whole another time. 805 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 9: Grind your body into the ground exactly. And you know 806 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 9: I used to be back in my LA days. I think, 807 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 9: you know, going into my contract year year four, I 808 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 9: was so psycho that I was trying to do everything 809 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:51,919 Speaker 9: that I could. 810 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 6: That I was. 811 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 9: The life that I had off the football field was 812 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 9: suffering because of it because I was I was, I 813 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 9: tell you, I'm I'm I was crazy. 814 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: I was. 815 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 9: I was locking myself in our guest bedroom with our 816 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 9: one of our dogs and going to sleep at seven 817 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 9: pm and trying to get twelve hours of sleep during 818 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,280 Speaker 9: the week so I could, you know, maximize my sleep 819 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 9: and you know, that that the life with my you know, 820 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 9: relationship with my wife had to suffer because of that. 821 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 6: And I I had to learn the hard way. 822 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 9: And you know, you always have, you go through that stuff, 823 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,720 Speaker 9: and it's it's like eye opening you. 824 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 6: You know, you don't learn until you go through it. 825 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 9: And I'm very glad that I, you know, went through that, 826 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 9: and you know, I knew, you know, I had to 827 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 9: dial things down and because I was driving myself too crazy, 828 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 9: you know, And and it's always that's when I, you know, 829 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 9: when I first got here in my year five, going in, 830 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 9: I I really had to learn He's got to be 831 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 9: a balance and you got to work smarter and not 832 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 9: always harder. 833 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 4: So speaking of that routine, you've got your shoes off, 834 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 4: you're got you're getting grounded right now. I know you're 835 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 4: into the health and wellness. What have you added to 836 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 4: the routine this man. 837 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 5: I don't know. 838 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,760 Speaker 6: I don't know if I've added anything. 839 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 9: I probably probably cut out more than I've had and 840 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 9: you know, made more time for my young son. We 841 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 9: just had a baby, a son. His name is Kylo. 842 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 9: He's three months old. So you know, I've it's this 843 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 9: more so this this off season, this OTAs because my 844 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 9: my schedule with my regimen was pretty still high up there, 845 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 9: and I couldn't spend the four or five hours on 846 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 9: an off day at the facility like I used to, 847 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 9: and so I had to cut things down and make 848 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 9: things more efficient. On an off day, Hey, you know, 849 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 9: I'll be gone, I'll be gone an hour hour and 850 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 9: a half at max. I'll be back to take care 851 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 9: of you know, I'll nap with him and stuff like that. 852 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 9: So I've really had to dial in and uh, you know, 853 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 9: cut things back on my routine and try to make 854 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,760 Speaker 9: more time for for my sons. 855 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 8: Yeah. 856 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 2: Great, family life is fun at that time for sure. 857 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 2: Jordan Hancock is a new guy you know in your 858 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 2: position room, and I realize he's kind of cross training 859 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 2: a little bit. 860 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: Is he asking the right questions? 861 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 2: Like you know that you know what happens here, Like 862 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 2: young guys come in and Vet's pour into them so 863 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 2: that God forbid, if they're called upon, they're ready. There 864 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 2: isn't a drop off. So part of that pouring in 865 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 2: is making sure he's asking you the right things. Are 866 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:26,840 Speaker 2: you finding he's doing that? 867 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,919 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, you know, our our whole position group, 868 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 9: you know, especially you know Wanda Owns too, you know, yes, 869 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 9: Jordan Hancock, you know, all the new guys, Derek Forrest, 870 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 9: you know, everyone, couldn't ask for a better group to 871 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 9: work with. 872 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 6: Everyone's incredible. 873 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 9: We have a we have a great position coach and 874 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 9: Joe Dana you know obviously Bobby Bobbage being the decordinator, 875 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 9: and you know just those those young guys, they're all sponges, 876 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 9: you know everyone. 877 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 6: Everyone is so eager to learn. 878 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 9: Everyone's trying to soak up everything, and so yes to 879 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 9: answer your question. You know, everyone asking the right questions. 880 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,479 Speaker 9: Everyone's so eager to learn. Couldn't ask for a better 881 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 9: position group to work Yeah, well. 882 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: Thanks for spending some time with us, Taylor. We appreciate it. 883 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: Thanks for sharing and keep getting those picks man. 884 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah for sure. 885 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: I mean it was crazy, but like people don't realize this. 886 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 2: Under Sean McDermott, this team has finished top five in 887 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,479 Speaker 2: takeaways almost every year he has been the head coach. 888 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,800 Speaker 2: It's just something you guys do as a matter of course, 889 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 2: and Bobby take it away and you followed suits so 890 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 2: well done today. I hope there are many more in 891 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 2: your future. That's tale a rap joining us here on 892 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 2: One Bill's Live with our training camp coverage. 893 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: We're back with more after this. Stay tuned. 894 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,479 Speaker 2: Welcome back to One Bill's Live here at Bill's Training 895 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:46,439 Speaker 2: Camp at Saint John Fisher. 896 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Maddy clab with you. 897 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,919 Speaker 2: Day three in the Books, and we want to thank 898 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 2: Wegmans for providing us with lunch here at Saint John Fisher. 899 00:44:54,000 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 2: Today's offering Spicy Italian Sandwich tray and Italian Style chop Salad. 900 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,720 Speaker 2: This duo brings the bold, craveable flavors of an Italian 901 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 2: deli Danny gathering the spicy Italian sandwich tray stack with 902 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 2: classic meats like hot ham and capa Cola, layered with 903 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 2: mozzarella and zesty toppings. Perfect for guests who like a 904 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 2: little heat and a lot of flavor. That capa Cola 905 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 2: had a kick today. Paired paired with the Italian style 906 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 2: chops salad featuring crisp greens, hardy veggies, cheese is and 907 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 2: a tangy Italian vinaigrette, this combo strikes a satisfying balance 908 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 2: of indulgence and freshness. Wegman's the official tailgate headquarters of 909 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bill. So Yeah, I like the sandwich. I'm 910 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 2: a big fan of Capa Cola, so once I saw that, 911 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 2: I was pretty happy. 912 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. 913 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 4: So I don't eat sandwiches often, but when I eat sandwiches, 914 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,760 Speaker 4: I want them to be Italian subs. 915 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: Oh, that's like your number one go to. 916 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,439 Speaker 3: That's all. That's the only sandwich I will eat. 917 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 2: Really, Okay, I would not have guessed that. While I 918 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 2: thought you'd be like turkey all the way and I 919 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,280 Speaker 2: don't like I don't like like that the nitrates. 920 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 4: But salami is the salami still has not nitrates. I 921 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,879 Speaker 4: just think it tastes better than just like. 922 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:08,720 Speaker 3: Better Andy. I'm Delia. 923 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 2: I do salami and Swiss a lot. With some Deli 924 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:12,840 Speaker 2: mustard or some spicy round mustard. 925 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 1: Let's go. So thanks again to Wegmans for that. 926 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 2: Uh, we're almost an hour into the show and we 927 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 2: have failed to mention it to you that it is 928 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 2: OBL Friday fan mail bag. So if you have any 929 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 2: questions at all about camp, who's looking good? A player 930 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,439 Speaker 2: you're interested in but haven't been out here to camp 931 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 2: to see yourself because you either live out of the 932 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 2: outside the area or you couldn't get tickets to camp fire, 933 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 2: Your questions away at us. Maddy and I have been 934 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 2: at every practice so far checking things out, making our observations. 935 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 2: So fire away at eight oh three oh five point 936 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 2: fifty that's in the seven to one to six area 937 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 2: code or eight eight eight five point fifty two five fifty, 938 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 2: those are the numbers to join us. And uh, I 939 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 2: gotta say, like, I know some people are, you know, 940 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 2: coming down on Keon a little bit because he had 941 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 2: a couple of drops today, But there has been good 942 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 2: there too, and I know we kind of touched on 943 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 2: that a little bit in the opening segment, but I 944 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 2: just think that that needs to be said. I mean, 945 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,359 Speaker 2: the guy is working his tail off out there, and 946 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 2: you know, it didn't all come together for him today, 947 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 2: but that's not terribly different from what we saw from 948 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 2: him in the regular season. 949 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 1: Last year as a rookie. 950 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 4: Coleman had a good day yesterday. Yesterday was more good 951 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 4: than bad from Coleman. So you can't just take one 952 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 4: day and be like, oh my gosh, what is he doing. No, 953 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,359 Speaker 4: Coleman had some nice catches during yesterday's practice. He did 954 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 4: have a couple during today's practice too. It wasn't all bad. 955 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,919 Speaker 4: And this is someone who came to training camp, came 956 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:47,760 Speaker 4: to off season practices visibly looking more muscular. That speaks 957 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 4: to the work that you put in this off season. 958 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 4: He has a mindset of I want to improve for 959 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 4: my rookie season, and guys, it's day three of training camp. 960 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 4: We gotta kind of let this play out and see 961 00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:58,720 Speaker 4: what happens. 962 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 2: It's early that that cannot be overstated. Let's go to 963 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 2: the phones at eight oh three five point fifty one 964 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,360 Speaker 2: eight eight eight five fifty two, five fifty where we 965 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 2: do have open lines for you. But we lead off 966 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,320 Speaker 2: today with Miron down in Richmond. 967 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 6: What's going on? 968 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,279 Speaker 10: Miron, Hi, thanks for taking my call. My question was 969 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 10: really for Sharon Pullman. What do you all see as 970 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 10: his floor and his ceiling for this year in terms 971 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 10: of numbers? And is there any past wide receiver on 972 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,880 Speaker 10: the Bells roster that you think can make an accurate 973 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,399 Speaker 10: comparision to a stealth that just so the things can 974 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 10: get a better idea of really who he can become 975 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 10: at as maximum potential. 976 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:35,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, good questions. Miron. 977 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:42,319 Speaker 2: I would say that his floor is See this is 978 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 2: the hard part because there really is no true pecking 979 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 2: order to the Bill's receiving cores. So it's hard to 980 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 2: discern where to slot him. And here's the other thing 981 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 2: that you have to keep in mind too. If we 982 00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,800 Speaker 2: get to like week four and all of a sudden, 983 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 2: he explodes for a big game and then is able 984 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 2: to carry that level of play consistently through the next 985 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 2: four or five games, well then he may ascend into 986 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:14,320 Speaker 2: the number one receiver role. That is probably the ceiling 987 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:19,359 Speaker 2: this year. He goes off and ascends into the number 988 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 2: one receiver role because he's just a dominant physical player 989 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,279 Speaker 2: that defenses just simply cannot stop. Like in other words, 990 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,399 Speaker 2: even when he's covered, he's open kind of thing because 991 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 2: he can just box people out and make plays. That's 992 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 2: the ceiling for this year. I'm not going to start 993 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,439 Speaker 2: to try to project his entire career. I think that's 994 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 2: the ceiling this year. I think the floor is he's in. 995 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 2: He's in the top four, and you know, he's got 996 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 2: like close to fifty catches this year. Because you have 997 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 2: to remember Khalil Shakir led this team with sixty one 998 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 2: receptions last year. That was the leader, which speaks to 999 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,919 Speaker 2: how much the wealth got spread around. So I think 1000 00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:01,399 Speaker 2: the floor is probably somewhere around thirty five receptions and 1001 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 2: you know, maybe five touchdowns, four touchdowns. 1002 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 4: Coleman had twenty nine catches for five hundred and fifty 1003 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,360 Speaker 4: six receiving yards last year. 1004 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 3: With four touchdowns and missed a month, Yes, and missed 1005 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,799 Speaker 3: a month of play. So if you're gonna have a floor. 1006 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,840 Speaker 4: Sure start right there at see where you can go 1007 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 4: from there, because I think, I think I know he 1008 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 4: can do better than he did last year. 1009 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,880 Speaker 2: Well, when he characterizes it as trash, that's what he 1010 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 2: called his rookie year, you know he believes he can 1011 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 2: do better as well, and hopefully that's what we see 1012 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 2: come the regular season. We have to step aside here 1013 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 2: as we are at the top of the hour, but 1014 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 2: our number two coming your way. We are open for 1015 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 2: phone calls, questions that you have about training camp, players, coaches, 1016 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:46,320 Speaker 2: et cetera. But we also have post practice podium sound trade, 1017 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 2: Davious White among them, and Oliver the other. We'll have 1018 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,359 Speaker 2: them for you next hour here on One Bill's Live. 1019 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health. 1020 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 2: All Right, our number two here on a Friday at 1021 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,359 Speaker 2: Bill's training camp at Saint John Fisher. Chris Brown, Matti 1022 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 2: Lab with you. Day three done complete as it was 1023 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 2: a spirited practice today. Josh Allen looked out standing with 1024 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 2: some touch and layering on his throes. Taylor Rapp was 1025 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 2: the hero of the defense with three interceptions. And you'll 1026 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 2: be able to get all the goings on on the 1027 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 2: practice field on day three on Buffalo Bills dot com, 1028 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 2: as Maddie, Alec White and our fine intern k are 1029 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,759 Speaker 2: putting together all the news and notes that you need 1030 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 2: to know from training camp practice. It is also the 1031 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 2: OBL Friday fan mailbag, where you have the chance to 1032 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 2: ask us any question you want under the sun about 1033 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 2: the team, the league, maybe, how the division's looking, whatever 1034 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,040 Speaker 2: it is. Fire away at us at eight O three 1035 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 2: oh five fifty one eighty eight eight five fifty two 1036 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,880 Speaker 2: five fifty Those are the numbers to join us. We 1037 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:30,400 Speaker 2: will have post practice podium commentary from Tredavius White and 1038 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,239 Speaker 2: at Oliver here in the second hour as well, so 1039 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,879 Speaker 2: be sure to stay tuned for that. But for now 1040 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 2: we go to the phones where John in Auburn is waiting. 1041 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 1: What do you got for us? John? You're all one? 1042 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 1: Bill's live? 1043 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,800 Speaker 11: Hey, Chris, Hey, Maddy, how's it going today? 1044 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:44,399 Speaker 6: Good? 1045 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 2: It's much cooler today than it was yesterday's delightful, no doubt. 1046 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,400 Speaker 11: No doubt. A little bit of rain here, real quick 1047 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 11: listening about wide receivers. He drafted a guy that Caydenkraser. 1048 00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:01,800 Speaker 11: I haven't heard much about him from you guys yet. 1049 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 11: Where's where's he at and how's he looking? Appreciate you guys. 1050 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure thing. Thanks thanks for the call, John, 1051 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 2: appreciate it. You haven't heard much because he hadn't gotten 1052 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 2: a lot of opportunities. 1053 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 3: He did have one catch today. 1054 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 2: Yes, So when he is getting his opportunities, he's doing 1055 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 2: his best. 1056 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 1: But it's hard for those guys. 1057 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,319 Speaker 2: Where you're going to see them the most is in 1058 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 2: the second half of preseason games, guys like Cayden Prather, 1059 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 2: and that's where they're really going to have to. 1060 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 1: Show up and show out. 1061 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 2: So you're reduced to a great degree for a guy 1062 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 2: like him to mental reps in practice because you're only 1063 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,760 Speaker 2: going to get three or four, maybe five or six 1064 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 2: through the course of practice here. Because the number one 1065 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 2: job of the coaching staff is to get the starters 1066 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 2: ready for the regular season. That's their number one job, 1067 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 2: and then you know second team players are next in line. 1068 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 2: Cayden Pray there is a third fourth team guy as 1069 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 2: a rookie seventh round draft choice. 1070 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:03,800 Speaker 1: You know, you like his physical skill set. 1071 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 2: He's tall, he's strong, runs well, so there are attractive 1072 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,440 Speaker 2: physical traits there to work with and develop. I just 1073 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 2: don't know that his development is going to be on 1074 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 2: the front burner with all they have to get ready 1075 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 2: for the regular season. I kind of feel too, and 1076 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 2: I don't know about this if you feel the same way, Maddie. 1077 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 2: A couple of these practices through the first three days, 1078 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 2: I feel like Josh has taken a few more reps 1079 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,880 Speaker 2: than we usually see him take. And so I'm thinking 1080 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,800 Speaker 2: back to when we had him on the show yesterday 1081 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 2: and he was saying, you know, I was a little 1082 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,440 Speaker 2: short on reps in the spring. 1083 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,720 Speaker 1: So was he trying to make up for that now? 1084 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 2: Because you usually see like the first stringer get six 1085 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,359 Speaker 2: reps and then he rotates out, and there been times 1086 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 2: where he's taken nine in a segment. Nine again, So 1087 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 2: I'm just wondering if he's trying to make up for 1088 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,320 Speaker 2: what amounted to lost time. You know, in the spring, 1089 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 2: he was away for his wedding, during the voluntary OTAs 1090 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 2: things like that. Maybe that's why maybe they feel they 1091 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 2: need the work. It's come at the expense of guys 1092 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 2: like Caden Brather who are getting less snaps. 1093 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 4: This coaching staff does such a great job of figuring 1094 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 4: out individualized plans for all their players, and probably individualized 1095 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,840 Speaker 4: plans for you know, first team offense, second team offense, 1096 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 4: third team offense, and beyond. Maybe they have a plan 1097 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,320 Speaker 4: in place where Josh Allen is getting a lot of 1098 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 4: reps right now, and they're going to back off once 1099 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 4: they get into the last couple weeks of camp, once 1100 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 4: he feels like he's in a good place. But when 1101 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,920 Speaker 4: you're talking about the Caiden Prathers of the world, there 1102 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 4: are so many different position battles and competitions going on 1103 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:49,279 Speaker 4: throughout training camp. You have second stringers fighting for a 1104 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:53,320 Speaker 4: starting spot. But I focus on some of these guys 1105 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,280 Speaker 4: that are these fringe players or seventh rounder like Caden 1106 00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 4: Prather who's trying to find a place on the ross 1107 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,799 Speaker 4: or a place on the practice squad. When you're only 1108 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 4: getting a few reps every single practice, it's a lot 1109 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 4: of pressure on yourself to shine in those three reps 1110 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,720 Speaker 4: that you get to try and prove to your coaching 1111 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 4: staff that I can do this. Look at what I 1112 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,920 Speaker 4: did in the three chances that I got today. Joe Brady, 1113 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,799 Speaker 4: the offensive coordinator, spoke about it yesterday and Brady said, 1114 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 4: it's also about how you're acting on the sidelines, the 1115 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,439 Speaker 4: mental reps that you're getting, your body language throughout the day. 1116 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,799 Speaker 4: You can do a lot for the coaching staff by 1117 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 4: how they view you outside of your three reps that 1118 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 4: you're getting to. 1119 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's individual position drills or you're doing the 1120 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:37,799 Speaker 2: things that we're teaching you. 1121 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,239 Speaker 1: It's being on. 1122 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 2: Top of your stuff in the meeting rooms, like, even 1123 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 2: though you're not getting more than three or four reps 1124 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 2: of practice, are you absorbing the scheme? And if you're 1125 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 2: quizzed in the meeting room, do you have the right answer. 1126 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,320 Speaker 2: So those are ways to stand out apart from the 1127 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 2: lack of opportunity you might be getting on the field. 1128 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 2: But I think we can say with pretty good confidence, 1129 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,719 Speaker 2: Maddie that at least this many players are ahead of 1130 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,360 Speaker 2: him on the depth chart right now. Keon Coleman, Curtis, 1131 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 2: Samuel Joshua Palmer, Khalil Shakir, Jalen Virgil, Elijah Moore, Tyrell Shavers, 1132 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,960 Speaker 2: and I would even say kJ Hamler has at times 1133 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:19,200 Speaker 2: gotten more snaps than him, So that leaves him essentially 1134 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,600 Speaker 2: in a group with David White, who just signed Steven 1135 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 2: Gosnell and undrafted rookie Christian Wilkerson, an undrafted rookie, and 1136 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 2: Prather and then you have Chanalt who's on the sidelines 1137 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 2: right now on active or yeah, active pup. 1138 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,000 Speaker 1: So it's an uphill battle. 1139 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 5: We know that. 1140 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,280 Speaker 2: So hopefully he can make some strides within his game 1141 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 2: and make enough of an impact in the preseason where 1142 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,440 Speaker 2: he can earn a spot on the practice squad. That's 1143 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 2: really where I see him probably ending up. And then 1144 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,560 Speaker 2: can you be the next Tyrell Shavers? You know Tyrell 1145 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 2: Shavers toils for two straight years on the practice squad 1146 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,560 Speaker 2: last year, gets a few call ups and makes the 1147 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,240 Speaker 2: most of it in a blowout game when he's on 1148 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:02,960 Speaker 2: the field with Mitch Trubisky and goes for a forty 1149 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 2: nine yard touchdown. He's back here again, and guess what 1150 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 2: he's getting some first, he's getting mixed in for some 1151 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,760 Speaker 2: first team reps here in the first few days of camp. 1152 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:15,640 Speaker 2: So use that example as inspiration to say, I might 1153 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 2: be taking the long road here, but if I stick 1154 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 2: to it and show progress, show improvement. This is a 1155 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 2: team that will work with me to improve my game, 1156 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,600 Speaker 2: and hopefully that's a path. 1157 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 1: He can take. 1158 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,000 Speaker 2: We encourage you to fire away with more questions at 1159 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,960 Speaker 2: eight h three h five fifty one eight eight eight 1160 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 2: five fifty two five point fifty for the obl Friday 1161 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 2: fan mail bag as we're still taking your questions until 1162 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 2: the top of the hour, but we want to pivot 1163 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 2: to the post practice podium here. Tradavius White, for the 1164 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,280 Speaker 2: first time in training camp, addressed the media after practice. 1165 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 2: He did that today, so let's turn things over to Tredavius. 1166 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 6: Bobby babb has said, Trey's on a mission. 1167 00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 2: What does that mean to you? 1168 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 12: It's nothing different than before. It's just I feel like 1169 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:10,960 Speaker 12: my urgency, tension of detail, nothing that's been different before, 1170 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 12: but just knowing that I got a mission at the 1171 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,160 Speaker 12: end of this team want to win games, and ultimately me, 1172 00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,120 Speaker 12: I'm battling for a job, so I want to put 1173 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,240 Speaker 12: my best foot forward and make sure that my teammates 1174 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,720 Speaker 12: know that I'm accountable, I know my stuff, and they 1175 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,919 Speaker 12: can rely on me any situation in the game. 1176 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 13: You know, you're more comfortable being here the surrounding the 1177 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 13: system and the people. 1178 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 6: How is that translating to your play on the field. 1179 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 12: Just you know, when you love the people around you 1180 00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:43,200 Speaker 12: and you appreciate and you have a different connection besides 1181 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,320 Speaker 12: just football, and it's it goes beyond the field. That 1182 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 12: that makes coming and work so much more easier, And 1183 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 12: your attension of detail and your care about the team 1184 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 12: and about your craft is gonna be a little bit 1185 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 12: more because the guys around you you really love and 1186 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,480 Speaker 12: genuinely care about, so you ultimately you don't want to 1187 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,919 Speaker 12: let those guys down. So I always had that type 1188 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,360 Speaker 12: of mindset, but even more so because you know, most 1189 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,360 Speaker 12: of these guys here I've seen come in now they're 1190 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,440 Speaker 12: in different roles now and how they're embracing it, and 1191 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,680 Speaker 12: it's no different than you know when me, Mike and. 1192 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:16,400 Speaker 8: Poyer was here. 1193 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:17,880 Speaker 6: It's just it's the same. 1194 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 12: Those guys saw what we were doing, and now they're 1195 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,040 Speaker 12: doing a great job of just keeping that standard where 1196 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,320 Speaker 12: it is and even raising it a little bit. So, uh, 1197 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 12: seeing guys like tv CB, seeing Shakir, all those guys 1198 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,280 Speaker 12: that I've seen when I was year four or five 1199 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 12: coming in as rookies, Greg and seeing the steps in 1200 01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,160 Speaker 12: the strides that those guys have made. It makes me 1201 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,400 Speaker 12: proud because I feel like, in a sense, I kind 1202 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 12: of had a part in it because before me, it's Kyle, Jerry, Lorenzo. 1203 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 12: Then you come in with my draft class, Dion and Matt, 1204 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,600 Speaker 12: and then all these guys are transitioning. 1205 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 8: So it's so fun to see. 1206 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,200 Speaker 12: But you can tell why this this group has a 1207 01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,160 Speaker 12: success because we have a core group of guys, and 1208 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 12: those guys do a great job of just we know 1209 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,000 Speaker 12: the motto, we know what to expect. 1210 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:04,280 Speaker 10: We expect to be play. 1211 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,200 Speaker 12: Out caliber, and and the front office do a great 1212 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,160 Speaker 12: job of bringing guys in that's willing to buy in. 1213 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 12: So this program is always gonna be top notched because 1214 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:13,240 Speaker 12: we got the best quarterback in the least, so we 1215 01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:14,680 Speaker 12: gonna always have a chance in any game. 1216 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,080 Speaker 8: So I always preach to the defense. 1217 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 12: If we can get seventeen back on the field as 1218 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,440 Speaker 12: much as possible, we gonna have a lot of chances 1219 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 12: in every game. 1220 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 11: Bobby said that you guys had a conversation I think 1221 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 11: yesterday except how are you feeling? 1222 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 7: And you said it feels good to have your legs. 1223 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:30,680 Speaker 6: Back under him. 1224 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,040 Speaker 7: Is that something you haven't been able to feel the 1225 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 7: last few years. 1226 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:35,760 Speaker 10: Uh, I would say so. 1227 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 12: Uh, and just saying because uh, the train my training 1228 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 12: regiment that I've been doing for years, it was kind 1229 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 12: of hampered because of the injury. I was nursing nursing 1230 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 12: the ACL so I couldn't do what I really normally 1231 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 12: do in the off season. 1232 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:49,760 Speaker 8: Uh. 1233 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 12: Then you know the achilles, so I couldn't do what 1234 01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 12: I normally do. And Uh, this is the first off 1235 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 12: season and three or four years where I put it 1236 01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,200 Speaker 12: in a lot of work, Whereas I wasn't limited it 1237 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:05,000 Speaker 12: to just rehabbing one area, specific area on my body, 1238 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,800 Speaker 12: but I can focus on the total body and building 1239 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 12: a resilient one so I can get here and be 1240 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,720 Speaker 12: ready to roll whatever whatever punches that you know, Coach 1241 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,320 Speaker 12: mcdermah and whatever situation he puts us in. I can 1242 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,960 Speaker 12: pretty much mentally and physically be ready be able to 1243 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:23,200 Speaker 12: attack the challenge. That's the best feeling when you know 1244 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 12: you can go out there and you're not thinking about 1245 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,520 Speaker 12: what you have to do. But I'm more so trying 1246 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,960 Speaker 12: to play offense and looking at the offense trying to 1247 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,920 Speaker 12: see what I can eliminate, what formations those guys are 1248 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 12: in or what people are The jo is Joe Brady 1249 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,360 Speaker 12: putting in certain areas so I can eliminate routes because 1250 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 12: certain guys on the field run certain routes, and he 1251 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 12: do a great job of putting those guys in position. 1252 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,000 Speaker 6: So it's on me as. 1253 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,800 Speaker 12: A defensive back to study the people and also the formation, 1254 01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 12: so I won't be out there just playing just off 1255 01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 12: straight athleticism and metalent where I can just slow it 1256 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:53,080 Speaker 12: down and play the mental game. 1257 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,840 Speaker 13: Anybody or should anybody be supplied or reclo you're just 1258 01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:58,440 Speaker 13: starting from. 1259 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,480 Speaker 6: On a back literally not. 1260 01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,400 Speaker 12: I feel like my work speaks for itself, the work 1261 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,120 Speaker 12: that I put in. I put a lot of hard 1262 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 12: work into it, work extremely hard, and a lot of people. 1263 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 6: Can see it. 1264 01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,120 Speaker 12: You can see it in my bursts, the way I'm 1265 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:16,040 Speaker 12: transitioning out, my my my breaks, the power, how how 1266 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,360 Speaker 12: the way my body looks, how I feel in the morning. 1267 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,280 Speaker 12: I put a lot of hard work in, so it's 1268 01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,800 Speaker 12: not gonna be a surprise to me or nobody that's 1269 01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:30,880 Speaker 12: seen my work. And I pride myself on putting my 1270 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:32,760 Speaker 12: bare foot forward and I know what type of player 1271 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,880 Speaker 12: I am, So the injuries kind of slowed it up, 1272 01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:39,080 Speaker 12: but that's behind me now and I'm moving forward and 1273 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:40,560 Speaker 12: it's gonna be a great season. 1274 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,400 Speaker 6: You wanted a job last year, now you were starting 1275 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:44,360 Speaker 6: for a week, So. 1276 01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,440 Speaker 8: What what do you think is different from how you. 1277 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,520 Speaker 1: Feel this year as supposed to last year where you 1278 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:49,439 Speaker 1: want to start a job. 1279 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,160 Speaker 12: I'm a year move from the injury, and I can 1280 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:54,360 Speaker 12: really my my off season. I get my confidence from 1281 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 12: my off season work and knowing that I put a 1282 01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 12: lot of work in going into the season, and if 1283 01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,360 Speaker 12: I couldn't do that work, my confidence won't be so 1284 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:03,920 Speaker 12: high cause I know I wasn't able to put the 1285 01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:08,280 Speaker 12: work in to put me ahead of my my competition. 1286 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,040 Speaker 12: So I know this year, in this off season, I 1287 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,720 Speaker 12: put a lot of work in, and I know me 1288 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,120 Speaker 12: coming back and looking the way I look. 1289 01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,080 Speaker 6: It's not a surprise to me because I know what a. 1290 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,640 Speaker 12: Off season, full off season of me investing in my 1291 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:22,920 Speaker 12: whole body and not just one part working on the 1292 01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,280 Speaker 12: whole thing. I know what it looked like, So I'm 1293 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,840 Speaker 12: not surprised at all, and I'm just blessed and thankful 1294 01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,840 Speaker 12: and so grateful to be able to come back off 1295 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:34,360 Speaker 12: the two worst injuries playing my position and be able 1296 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 12: to still do it at high level. 1297 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:36,120 Speaker 8: So with. 1298 01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,479 Speaker 13: That, how do you juggle being the competitor and trying 1299 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,520 Speaker 13: to win a job, for being the veteran that you 1300 01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:46,040 Speaker 13: pride yourself on, and helping guide a first round pick 1301 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:46,760 Speaker 13: by Macius. 1302 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,200 Speaker 12: I'm I'm no bigger than this game, man, Uh, nobody, 1303 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,480 Speaker 12: no players bigger than the game, and it's on me 1304 01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,960 Speaker 12: to pay it forward to when I'm done and my 1305 01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 12: police I hang up, he's gonna still be playing. So 1306 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,480 Speaker 12: for me, it's me teaching and defensive backs because ultimately, 1307 01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,720 Speaker 12: when I'm watching the football game, I'm going for the defense. 1308 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:05,760 Speaker 12: And if I know how hard it is to be 1309 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,560 Speaker 12: out there playing man the man in the space in 1310 01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,600 Speaker 12: this NFL with the least geared for us to be 1311 01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:13,360 Speaker 12: in a disadvantage, so I know how it is. So 1312 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,760 Speaker 12: I'm no bigger than this game, and it's on me 1313 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,120 Speaker 12: to continue to have defensive back play to continue to 1314 01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,320 Speaker 12: rise and rise in this league because it's so tough 1315 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:23,640 Speaker 12: to play. 1316 01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:25,200 Speaker 5: So you've always been. 1317 01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:25,480 Speaker 8: That, right. 1318 01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,160 Speaker 14: Okay, You've talked about helping the younger guys, but you 1319 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 14: are competing with that guy. 1320 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,520 Speaker 6: So what is the dynamic between say you and Max. 1321 01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,600 Speaker 14: You know, do you give each other a hard time? 1322 01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,240 Speaker 6: Is it more just you know you can teach him 1323 01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:39,880 Speaker 6: how do you react to the things. 1324 01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:43,840 Speaker 12: He's such a great kid man, he's all eyes and ears. 1325 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,600 Speaker 12: So it's more of me giving him a little nugget 1326 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,440 Speaker 12: nuggets of what I see of how he can do things. 1327 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:53,000 Speaker 12: But I told him from the start, like this position 1328 01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:56,040 Speaker 12: we play, I can tell you give you nick nuggets, 1329 01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:57,560 Speaker 12: but it's gonna be on you to go out there 1330 01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,800 Speaker 12: and trial and errors so you can you can feel 1331 01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,400 Speaker 12: it and feel the feel the speed of different receivers, 1332 01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,960 Speaker 12: see how the quarterback is playing you, and see like 1333 01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,600 Speaker 12: see the speed of everything that's going on. So this 1334 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,800 Speaker 12: is gonna be trial and error for him. But I 1335 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,000 Speaker 12: can't really tell him how to play certain rountes because 1336 01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,200 Speaker 12: his body different than mine. He could he can stay 1337 01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,600 Speaker 12: square longer than that he could he could pretty much 1338 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,400 Speaker 12: be more patient because that speed is different. 1339 01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,800 Speaker 8: So as he continued to practice. 1340 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,800 Speaker 12: And go along, he's gonna get his feel and how 1341 01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,640 Speaker 12: he can move and different things he can take in 1342 01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,160 Speaker 12: the chances he can take being a certain defenses. 1343 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:30,680 Speaker 6: So it's just gonna take time. 1344 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:32,840 Speaker 12: Playing cornerback in this league is so tough, and then 1345 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,280 Speaker 12: coming in as a as a rookie to play in 1346 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,760 Speaker 12: this league and playing on this team specifically, it's tough. 1347 01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,720 Speaker 12: So but we have a great group of guys, great 1348 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:45,440 Speaker 12: group of veterans, not only myself, but wrap CB those guys. 1349 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,720 Speaker 12: We are as a collective unit of taking these young 1350 01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,000 Speaker 12: guys in at under our wings and trying to make 1351 01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,520 Speaker 12: sure we continue to have this defense at a how level. 1352 01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,800 Speaker 14: So you're saying kind of saying, you can tell him 1353 01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,160 Speaker 14: only so much. Some of he's just gonna have to 1354 01:06:58,240 --> 01:06:59,320 Speaker 14: learn being out there. 1355 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:00,000 Speaker 8: Oh for sure. 1356 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:04,240 Speaker 12: But still I'm still giving him everything. But certain things 1357 01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,520 Speaker 12: I can't just give him the nuggets. 1358 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 8: He have to feel it for. 1359 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,080 Speaker 12: Himself and he has to figure it figure it out 1360 01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:13,240 Speaker 12: because you know, like I said, I can tell them 1361 01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,160 Speaker 12: how I see it, but his body is different so 1362 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:16,160 Speaker 12: he can see it a different way. 1363 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:17,000 Speaker 8: But I can. 1364 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,000 Speaker 6: Only just give him nuggets. 1365 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,600 Speaker 12: It's basically by studying the game, learning the game first, 1366 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,640 Speaker 12: and then once that slows down, everything else is gonna 1367 01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:25,120 Speaker 12: be like that. 1368 01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,040 Speaker 7: You just mentioned Christian Denver, where are the Chiefs seen 1369 01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:29,800 Speaker 7: in his game since the last time you were here? 1370 01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,439 Speaker 12: The game is still the same man, still the same. 1371 01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,560 Speaker 12: The only thing is everybody's now is paying attention of 1372 01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:38,560 Speaker 12: what this the people here already knew and already saw 1373 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,240 Speaker 12: when he got drafted in twenty twenty two. From the 1374 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:45,000 Speaker 12: first start, like we saw what it was a very 1375 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:49,200 Speaker 12: smart guy, so technically sound, just does everything in the 1376 01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,120 Speaker 12: right way. And the way he approached the game and 1377 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,400 Speaker 12: the way he approached practice every day in every period, 1378 01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,560 Speaker 12: you can see why. You can see why he wanted 1379 01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:58,920 Speaker 12: the best corners in the league. And this guy he 1380 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,720 Speaker 12: has an act for the ball. The man, he's gonna 1381 01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,600 Speaker 12: have a great season again. He's gonna continue to be great. 1382 01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,680 Speaker 12: This this guy's he's one of the ones. 1383 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 6: Man. I'm so proud of him, so. 1384 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,400 Speaker 12: Happy that he's able to do the things he able 1385 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,520 Speaker 12: to do and be able to get paid and take 1386 01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:15,000 Speaker 12: care of his family, because that's that's what it's all about, 1387 01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:16,960 Speaker 12: having fun with your friends, taking care of your family 1388 01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:18,320 Speaker 12: and trying to win some football game. 1389 01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:22,720 Speaker 9: Feel walking out that tunnel for the first training camp 1390 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,000 Speaker 9: practice with the fans in the. 1391 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:30,080 Speaker 12: Stands such a surreal feeling, man, because my last time 1392 01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:31,800 Speaker 12: seeing it fans, but I was in a different color 1393 01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:32,720 Speaker 12: and it didn't feel right. 1394 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:39,519 Speaker 6: But just the support that I've got just. 1395 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,200 Speaker 12: Since I've came back, Man, it's been next to none. 1396 01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,080 Speaker 12: Is some that are always cherished, and I know these 1397 01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,600 Speaker 12: people here they care about the bills, and man, we 1398 01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,840 Speaker 12: care about them too. So just to hear the cheer 1399 01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,720 Speaker 12: the fans calling my name like that, that gives me 1400 01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,479 Speaker 12: a little boost of confidence too, just knowing that I'm 1401 01:08:56,479 --> 01:09:00,160 Speaker 12: supported here too. Still, So it's all love for both though, 1402 01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 12: cause it's family, man. I mean, I raised like everybody here, 1403 01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:09,000 Speaker 12: have seen the different how my life's changed over the 1404 01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:12,599 Speaker 12: last nine years, and how my family's dynamic has changed too. 1405 01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,960 Speaker 12: So I'm pretty much grown and to be a pretty 1406 01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,400 Speaker 12: much a man here. So uh, two of my kids 1407 01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,040 Speaker 12: are born here. My oldest was born two days after 1408 01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:24,040 Speaker 12: the draft and he came in like December, so he's 1409 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:27,600 Speaker 12: all buffalo. So this is this is home and it 1410 01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,280 Speaker 12: and it feels right right. 1411 01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:33,920 Speaker 4: It's kind of showing around low nonstamars practice kind summary 1412 01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:34,679 Speaker 4: teammates itself. 1413 01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:36,000 Speaker 3: What do you want towards? 1414 01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:42,200 Speaker 12: Man, It's it's not just it's not just something that's said, 1415 01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,800 Speaker 12: it's something meant. When when they say they legitimate care 1416 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,920 Speaker 12: and have so many resources to be successful outside of 1417 01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,880 Speaker 12: the field, just for your mental, for your physical. Just 1418 01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:55,880 Speaker 12: Misipal Goula to have done a great job of just 1419 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:57,880 Speaker 12: giving us all the resources that we need to so 1420 01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:02,439 Speaker 12: we can just focus on ball. The coaches have every resource, equipment, like, 1421 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,680 Speaker 12: we have everything we need, so it's ultimately on the 1422 01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:08,040 Speaker 12: players to use it and take it to the field 1423 01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:09,080 Speaker 12: and make some damn plays. 1424 01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:14,600 Speaker 8: Third year, he was kinding behind like that. 1425 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:16,400 Speaker 4: Jordan's work into that starting role. 1426 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,479 Speaker 3: Now he mentioned in this guy who like it's a 1427 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:19,360 Speaker 3: pillar of the sea guy. 1428 01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,240 Speaker 6: He's like, what is he doing at a cross out? 1429 01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:22,519 Speaker 6: This rap man. 1430 01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:26,360 Speaker 12: He's a guy like he's not as vocal, but damn 1431 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,000 Speaker 12: he his routine and the way he attacked the day 1432 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,320 Speaker 12: and his his warm up regiment. 1433 01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:32,519 Speaker 8: He's a consistent guy. 1434 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,840 Speaker 12: You're gonna get the same guy each and every day, 1435 01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:38,639 Speaker 12: each and every play, each and every series. 1436 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:39,760 Speaker 8: I love that guy. 1437 01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,840 Speaker 12: Man Like he's a he's a botherer and he's gonna 1438 01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,400 Speaker 12: he's gonna leave his body out Like as you guys 1439 01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,479 Speaker 12: can see, he don't give it down. He's gonna hit, 1440 01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,120 Speaker 12: he's gonna talk, and he's gonna he gonna be there 1441 01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,880 Speaker 12: each and every play. Definitely a resilient guy and a 1442 01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:54,920 Speaker 12: guy that I've known him for a while because I 1443 01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,000 Speaker 12: watched him when he was in LA making the hell 1444 01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,160 Speaker 12: of plays too, So for him to be able to 1445 01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,640 Speaker 12: bring that over to to the Bills and continue to 1446 01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,960 Speaker 12: hit man, it's something that the team need and we're 1447 01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:05,400 Speaker 12: gonna need him down the stretch for suit. 1448 01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:08,720 Speaker 1: All right. 1449 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,760 Speaker 2: So that's Trudavius White, who was very adamant about how 1450 01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,840 Speaker 2: hard he works to get himself back. But as Bobby 1451 01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 2: Babbage said this morning when he addressed the media, Trey's 1452 01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:24,040 Speaker 2: on a mission. And the reason he's encouraged about Trey's 1453 01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,360 Speaker 2: chances to get back to the player that we remember 1454 01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,639 Speaker 2: him being is the fact that for the first time 1455 01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,000 Speaker 2: in three years, he's had a normal offseason. He's not 1456 01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,280 Speaker 2: spending the entire offseason rehabbing a major injury, whether it 1457 01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,479 Speaker 2: was his achilles or as you heard him say, his 1458 01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,840 Speaker 2: acl He had a normal off season to resume the 1459 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:43,040 Speaker 2: training regimen that has made him so successful in this league. 1460 01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,920 Speaker 4: Another part of the equation to Trey being back to 1461 01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:49,320 Speaker 4: himself is he spent last season on two different teams, 1462 01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,679 Speaker 4: and I think understood how much he loves and appreciates Buffalo. 1463 01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,000 Speaker 4: You play the best when you're in the system that 1464 01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,200 Speaker 4: you feel like works the most with your skill set, 1465 01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,920 Speaker 4: when you're around co coaches who understand you not just 1466 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,200 Speaker 4: as a player, but as a human being. I think 1467 01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:05,960 Speaker 4: White gets that here with the Bills. 1468 01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:08,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, And you heard him say he calls 1469 01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:09,439 Speaker 1: it home. It's home for him. 1470 01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:11,920 Speaker 2: We want to get back to the phones here at 1471 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,639 Speaker 2: eight O threeho five fifty one eight five fifty two 1472 01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,719 Speaker 2: five fifty Richard and Tonawanda is waiting, So let's. 1473 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:18,960 Speaker 1: Go to Richard right now? What do you got for us? 1474 01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:20,160 Speaker 8: Hi? 1475 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,960 Speaker 15: How you doing? I have a question about training camp. 1476 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:24,479 Speaker 8: Now. 1477 01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,080 Speaker 15: I've been to training camps in the past, and what 1478 01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,720 Speaker 15: always struck me was there's a lot of guys that 1479 01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:35,320 Speaker 15: are kind of standing around, and I understand part of that, 1480 01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,840 Speaker 15: but why don't they use more fields and so that 1481 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:42,320 Speaker 15: more players can get reps. I we talk a lot 1482 01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:47,599 Speaker 15: about lesser players not getting enough reps, but I think 1483 01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:51,640 Speaker 15: there's there's certainly enough coaches to take these players on 1484 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,280 Speaker 15: separate fields. I know they have at least two fields, 1485 01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,800 Speaker 15: and I know they have other fields, but why don't 1486 01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:01,479 Speaker 15: they have all of the players practice, seeing more and 1487 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:02,599 Speaker 15: getting more reps? 1488 01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they try to do that as best 1489 01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:11,320 Speaker 2: they can. We saw today here's the example. End of practice. 1490 01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,320 Speaker 2: They have a final segment where they do one on 1491 01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:20,960 Speaker 2: ones and it's basically running backs and full backs against linebackers, 1492 01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:25,840 Speaker 2: and then its receivers and tight ends against corners and safeties. 1493 01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,320 Speaker 2: And they did it by splitting the field in half. 1494 01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:32,080 Speaker 2: They took two quarterbacks went to one end of the field, 1495 01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,200 Speaker 2: and they took two other quarterbacks and went to the 1496 01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,559 Speaker 2: other end of the field, so they could cycle third 1497 01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,200 Speaker 2: and fourth stringers through. So if they're not getting the 1498 01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,920 Speaker 2: reps in the team segments, they're at least getting them 1499 01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,720 Speaker 2: in one on ones. And then the linemen are at 1500 01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,120 Speaker 2: the opposite end of the field in the end zone 1501 01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:51,640 Speaker 2: working one on one pass rush drills. So that's an 1502 01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,160 Speaker 2: example of how they try to have as many players 1503 01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:58,040 Speaker 2: as possible actively working and getting coached up on the 1504 01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:02,439 Speaker 2: techniques or to evaluate a player's given skill set. 1505 01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:06,759 Speaker 4: Well, there are a lot of coaches on this coaching staff. 1506 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,519 Speaker 4: There's not enough for how many players are on this 1507 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,840 Speaker 4: roster right now, there's ninety one and a lot of 1508 01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,800 Speaker 4: the coaches also want to have eyes on not just 1509 01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,160 Speaker 4: a certain group of players. You want to have eyes 1510 01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,880 Speaker 4: on the guys who are vying for a starting spot 1511 01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,240 Speaker 4: and the guys who are trying to work for a 1512 01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,680 Speaker 4: spot on the roster, right, and you know, you. 1513 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:29,360 Speaker 1: Think about it. 1514 01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,920 Speaker 2: I was watching coach McDermott because his job is to 1515 01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:38,680 Speaker 2: be an overseer, and he started practice on the auxiliary 1516 01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,960 Speaker 2: field in the back where the defense was. He was 1517 01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,880 Speaker 2: observing the linebackers in their past drops as they were 1518 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:47,920 Speaker 2: getting coached up by coach Hulcombe and some of the 1519 01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,639 Speaker 2: other assistants. Then he leaves the field, he goes over 1520 01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:52,559 Speaker 2: to the offensive side of the ball and he's looking 1521 01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,639 Speaker 2: at that. And then there was a special team segment 1522 01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:56,600 Speaker 2: and he's got his nose right in there on that. 1523 01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,479 Speaker 2: That's the job of the head coach. You trust your 1524 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,800 Speaker 2: assistant to execute everything in terms of the techniques they 1525 01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,639 Speaker 2: need to teach, the scheme, they need to run, the checks, 1526 01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:08,320 Speaker 2: they need to make, the corrections they need to make. 1527 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,960 Speaker 2: But he's got to make sure everything is humming. Number one, 1528 01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,120 Speaker 2: then number two. I want to get an extra look 1529 01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,040 Speaker 2: at so and so in one on one pass rush 1530 01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,240 Speaker 2: drills because I wasn't thrilled with his practice tape yesterday. 1531 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,240 Speaker 2: Let me see if he has a bounce back day today. 1532 01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,800 Speaker 2: There's little notes that head coaches take and try to 1533 01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:28,920 Speaker 2: be mindful of when they're out on the field, but 1534 01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,040 Speaker 2: they do their best to try to have as many 1535 01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:35,400 Speaker 2: players active during the practice session as possible. Idle time 1536 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,200 Speaker 2: is not something that Sean McDermott covets. I can promise 1537 01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,519 Speaker 2: you that we do have to take a break here. 1538 01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,439 Speaker 2: But when we come back, we are going to hear 1539 01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:48,080 Speaker 2: from one Ed Oliver who addressed the media after practice today. 1540 01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,320 Speaker 2: We'll have his comments for you next on One Bill's Live, 1541 01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:51,360 Speaker 2: presented by to Lot of Health. 1542 01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:52,479 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. 1543 01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,200 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live, Day three 1544 01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:06,960 Speaker 2: of training camp here at Saint John Fisher. 1545 01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:08,120 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Matty Glad with you. 1546 01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,799 Speaker 2: We're gonna head back over to the post practice podium 1547 01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,720 Speaker 2: where Ed Oliver addressed the media for the first time 1548 01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,600 Speaker 2: here in training camp. So let's go there now to 1549 01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:19,880 Speaker 2: hear what Ed has to say about how the first 1550 01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:21,760 Speaker 2: three days have gone for him. 1551 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,720 Speaker 13: A lot of new guys on the defensive front. Do 1552 01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:29,000 Speaker 13: you view yourself now even though you are but hey, 1553 01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,560 Speaker 13: you're the veteran. You're the one that everyone goes to 1554 01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:32,200 Speaker 13: now because. 1555 01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:32,799 Speaker 6: You've been here the longest. 1556 01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:36,599 Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, I got one teammate in particular that reminds 1557 01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,800 Speaker 8: me every sakeing he can that I'm old. And that's TJ. 1558 01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,320 Speaker 8: Every chance you get to tell me that I'm old, 1559 01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:46,160 Speaker 8: he reminds me that I'm getting old. And man, it's 1560 01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:49,120 Speaker 8: just a joy just getting older and seeing the young 1561 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,920 Speaker 8: guys come in and see how enthusiastic and seeing how 1562 01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:54,360 Speaker 8: far I've come from where they are to where I'm 1563 01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,639 Speaker 8: at now, and just I guess, like honestly, they kind 1564 01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:01,040 Speaker 8: of keep me on just seeing the joy, uh, and 1565 01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:02,760 Speaker 8: just to look in their eyes that they don't really 1566 01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:04,160 Speaker 8: know what's going on. I mean they know, but not 1567 01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,719 Speaker 8: really knowing. Just to kind of help them guys along, 1568 01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,680 Speaker 8: kind of keep me on. But they remind me that 1569 01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:09,599 Speaker 8: I'm getting old. 1570 01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:13,720 Speaker 14: So that, I mean, twenty nineteen wasn't that long ago 1571 01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,439 Speaker 14: in real world time, but in the NFL time. 1572 01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:20,639 Speaker 8: What's that like? I mean, man, going into year seven, 1573 01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,120 Speaker 8: I f I feel like it went fast. I feel 1574 01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:24,920 Speaker 8: like the years went fast. And I I know this 1575 01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:27,840 Speaker 8: is saying, but the years ago fast, but the days 1576 01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,280 Speaker 8: go slow. So like right now, it's a long day, 1577 01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,599 Speaker 8: But then you'll look up and you'll be in week 1578 01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:35,840 Speaker 8: ten or eleven you'd be like, hey, I remember, where 1579 01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:37,840 Speaker 8: was that Saint John Fisher? We was hot and I 1580 01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,000 Speaker 8: was sitting at the podium and then it seemed like 1581 01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,760 Speaker 8: it wasn't that long ago, but in actuality like that 1582 01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:47,080 Speaker 8: was kind of a while ago. So ruck lightening new 1583 01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:51,760 Speaker 8: yor talking about uh, just stuff and you ain't standing out, 1584 01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:52,479 Speaker 8: it will punch you out. 1585 01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:53,599 Speaker 6: What do you see those bad. 1586 01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,719 Speaker 8: I mean, I think Bean did a exceptional job bringing 1587 01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:58,760 Speaker 8: in the uh, the three guys to our room for sure, 1588 01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,560 Speaker 8: and uh, I mean from just watching them early on, 1589 01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:04,599 Speaker 8: they they gonna be guys that's gonna help us play 1590 01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,880 Speaker 8: this year and gonna make big time plays. So I'm 1591 01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,200 Speaker 8: eager to see how fast they grow. And I mean 1592 01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:13,840 Speaker 8: they already ahead of the curveball. I would say, how 1593 01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:16,479 Speaker 8: were you different now than you were in twenty nineteen. 1594 01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:23,439 Speaker 8: I guess, I guess, calmer, more patient. I guess, you know. 1595 01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,720 Speaker 8: I don't wanna say I've been there, done that, but 1596 01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,000 Speaker 8: I I've kind of been through camp a couple of times, 1597 01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:32,920 Speaker 8: so I'm more. I don't know. I just say season, 1598 01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:34,639 Speaker 8: I don't I don't know, like I just don't get 1599 01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:38,840 Speaker 8: stirred up so easy, like I'm slow to reacting. I 1600 01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:40,000 Speaker 8: can just play football. 1601 01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:42,360 Speaker 13: I guess how does it translate to your play on 1602 01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:42,800 Speaker 13: the field. 1603 01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,160 Speaker 8: It just keeps me calmer, Like like now I'm I'm 1604 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,360 Speaker 8: looking for more things like down in distance and things 1605 01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,320 Speaker 8: like that, like I'm able to see the bigger picture 1606 01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:53,600 Speaker 8: instead of just warn't about the guy in front of me. 1607 01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:55,960 Speaker 8: I'm able to take in more information about what's going 1608 01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:58,479 Speaker 8: on in a down the distance and uh what uh 1609 01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,439 Speaker 8: the offense set I'm getting and the how the offensive 1610 01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:03,600 Speaker 8: line and I looking like I'm able to take in 1611 01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:07,160 Speaker 8: more information which helps me be ahead a step ahead. 1612 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:10,080 Speaker 14: When we look at players, like we may say, this 1613 01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,040 Speaker 14: guy looks exceptionally big. 1614 01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:17,759 Speaker 8: Right do you like when you see Yo Yo Deon 1615 01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:22,320 Speaker 8: is one massive human on like ballerina legs, like if 1616 01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,040 Speaker 8: you could take a bear and put ballerina legs on him, 1617 01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:27,479 Speaker 8: Like he literally is a dancing bear, like one of 1618 01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:31,120 Speaker 8: the biggest guys I've ever been around. But he moves 1619 01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,200 Speaker 8: so fluently. If you look at his legs, he got 1620 01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:36,439 Speaker 8: these athletic legs and then a big upper body and 1621 01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,640 Speaker 8: he just he just flwing like some big guys. Like 1622 01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:45,559 Speaker 8: he's like so just watching him, and I mean, athletes 1623 01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,200 Speaker 8: come in all different shapes and sizes, like you compare 1624 01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,400 Speaker 8: me to Dion is like how did these two guys 1625 01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:52,840 Speaker 8: even play the same position or even a position close 1626 01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,320 Speaker 8: to each other? And it's like it's no rhyme or reason. 1627 01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,840 Speaker 8: There's no right or wrong answer to a guy who 1628 01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:01,200 Speaker 8: can play football. They don't. It's no black and white as, 1629 01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:03,479 Speaker 8: no cut dry. This is the type of guy. I 1630 01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,679 Speaker 8: think it's more so of a mindset and a little 1631 01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,360 Speaker 8: bit to do with how they built but kind of 1632 01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:08,559 Speaker 8: like a mindset, I guess. 1633 01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,759 Speaker 6: What's so like playing next to her along with Joey Bosa. 1634 01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:16,400 Speaker 8: Joey Bosa is definitely different guy too, Like he's more 1635 01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,800 Speaker 8: of a reserve, more kind of goofy, laid back kind 1636 01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:22,800 Speaker 8: of guy. Don't really have too many words to say 1637 01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,040 Speaker 8: unless you know him. Like when you get to know him, 1638 01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:26,640 Speaker 8: he kind of opens up and he talks more. But 1639 01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:30,599 Speaker 8: he's just a laid back, reserved guy. Like I remember 1640 01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:33,360 Speaker 8: watching him when I was in college and like it 1641 01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:35,960 Speaker 8: seemed like he could be so well maybe on Sundays 1642 01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:40,280 Speaker 8: he do that you know that super competitive Uh, I 1643 01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:43,560 Speaker 8: don't even know it looks violent honestly, but he just 1644 01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:45,320 Speaker 8: seemed kind of reserve right now. I guess in camp 1645 01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:47,880 Speaker 8: and practicing, he's just practicing just like everybody else, trying 1646 01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:48,320 Speaker 8: to get better. 1647 01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,439 Speaker 13: Picked out from coaching, Neill working with coach Nil said 1648 01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:53,720 Speaker 13: this offseason. 1649 01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,560 Speaker 8: I mean yeah, I mean just how he's revised what 1650 01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,320 Speaker 8: were doing, uh kind of streamlined of the little bit, 1651 01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:04,840 Speaker 8: you know, made it more cut and dry. So yeah, 1652 01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,720 Speaker 8: I think he's doing a great job. I think he's 1653 01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:12,160 Speaker 8: implemented some great things. What sense, I guess just in 1654 01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:16,840 Speaker 8: the technique aspect of it, Like he's really dialed into 1655 01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,840 Speaker 8: what he's what he's coaching, so like it's really cut 1656 01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:22,960 Speaker 8: and dry, like this, this is what I want, this 1657 01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,280 Speaker 8: is what I expect. And I can really respect that 1658 01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:27,840 Speaker 8: coming from a coach with no like kind of like 1659 01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,280 Speaker 8: no gray area, you know, he kind of like, now 1660 01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:31,760 Speaker 8: this is the way he gotta be, and so I 1661 01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:32,400 Speaker 8: can respect that. 1662 01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:36,599 Speaker 14: Joey said something the other day or almost like he's 1663 01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:39,280 Speaker 14: hung out with guys from the D line maybe off 1664 01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:41,800 Speaker 14: the field a little bit more than he did. And 1665 01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:45,120 Speaker 14: this whole time in LA you goes like everybody's short 1666 01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:48,320 Speaker 14: of is that something you stress? Like the guys get together. 1667 01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:50,960 Speaker 8: I mean, so as a d line we go eat 1668 01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:52,720 Speaker 8: every week. And I know, I don't know if that 1669 01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,640 Speaker 8: happens everywhere. I haven't been anywhere over here, but I 1670 01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,240 Speaker 8: know when Vaughn kind of implemented that, like we need 1671 01:21:58,280 --> 01:21:59,880 Speaker 8: to hang out outside the field, and I think that 1672 01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:04,200 Speaker 8: big with us with our success and that's going far 1673 01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:07,040 Speaker 8: is us coming together as a defense us eating together 1674 01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:11,040 Speaker 8: breaking bread. I feel like I don't eat with strangers. 1675 01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,040 Speaker 8: I'm gonna just keep like if I don't know, y'all 1676 01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,360 Speaker 8: really don't eat with you like I break beard with family. 1677 01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:18,360 Speaker 8: And when we go sit down and I take the 1678 01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,439 Speaker 8: tab or Greg takets the tab, like I don't. I 1679 01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:22,240 Speaker 8: don't think I just pay for strangers to eat, but 1680 01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:25,320 Speaker 8: I will more than happily pay for my brothers to 1681 01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:28,679 Speaker 8: enjoy a meal on a Thursday or Friday night before 1682 01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,960 Speaker 8: the game, and us fellowship and come together and talk 1683 01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:33,880 Speaker 8: about the week and talk about maybe problems going on 1684 01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,519 Speaker 8: in the house or whatever, and really have real conversation 1685 01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:39,360 Speaker 8: with each other more so than you know, we go 1686 01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:41,960 Speaker 8: our separate ways and we don't have those real brother 1687 01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:44,240 Speaker 8: to brother conversations and fellowship. 1688 01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:46,720 Speaker 13: Speaking of brother, the brother you've been a teammate with 1689 01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:50,200 Speaker 13: your famous wife for a long time. Do you notice 1690 01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,679 Speaker 13: a difference in trade now than maybe even the final 1691 01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:55,679 Speaker 13: few years, as who's battled on a lot of issues. 1692 01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:02,400 Speaker 8: Uh, I said, I say, you got older. I mean 1693 01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:06,080 Speaker 8: just like me getting older. Like oh no, I feel 1694 01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:07,680 Speaker 8: like the more you've been in the lead, the more 1695 01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,600 Speaker 8: you kind of calm down a little bit. So T 1696 01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:14,040 Speaker 8: White was super talkative and active and you know everywhere, 1697 01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,320 Speaker 8: and now he kind of like mow reserve a little bit. 1698 01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:20,200 Speaker 8: I say, but uh, I don't know. Maybe maybe it's 1699 01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:21,960 Speaker 8: the kids. I don't know, when you have kids, maybe 1700 01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:23,400 Speaker 8: you slow down to get more patient. I don't know 1701 01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:25,679 Speaker 8: necessarily what it is, but just as you get older, 1702 01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,479 Speaker 8: you could just see the mature maturity and people, especially 1703 01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,400 Speaker 8: in myself. I notice in myself how I'm just more 1704 01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:34,200 Speaker 8: kind of relaxed now. And I don't know. I guess 1705 01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:36,559 Speaker 8: maybe he always the same too, White, Like he always 1706 01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,360 Speaker 8: he treated me the same, whether he was here or 1707 01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,519 Speaker 8: in UH with the Ravens or a la. He always 1708 01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,320 Speaker 8: treated me the same. I always could call Tray, you know, 1709 01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:46,840 Speaker 8: so he always treated me the same. 1710 01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,080 Speaker 2: The new faces along with defensive front you have that 1711 01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:51,840 Speaker 2: familiar face alongside. 1712 01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:52,400 Speaker 5: Of the big Pine general. 1713 01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:55,240 Speaker 9: Just how would you describe the relationship that you guys 1714 01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:57,639 Speaker 9: have and what does that level of comfort with White 1715 01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:57,840 Speaker 9: for me? 1716 01:23:57,920 --> 01:23:58,040 Speaker 6: Now? 1717 01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,439 Speaker 8: With you guys playing this man seasons stiff Man, it's 1718 01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,600 Speaker 8: kind of like a like a big brother, a l 1719 01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:05,280 Speaker 8: big brother, little brother kind of aspect, Like he been 1720 01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,920 Speaker 8: in the league a long time, a little bit longer 1721 01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,880 Speaker 8: than me, and uh when I came in, he kind 1722 01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:12,719 Speaker 8: of caught me at the turning point of my career 1723 01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,880 Speaker 8: and so he's watched me grow. So it's kind of 1724 01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:16,760 Speaker 8: like that big brother little brother, kind of that guy 1725 01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:19,120 Speaker 8: in him and that helping him hand. Uh. We didn't 1726 01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:20,680 Speaker 8: even played a lot of games together. We went to 1727 01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:24,360 Speaker 8: battle a lot of Sundays together, Thursdays, Mondays, even out 1728 01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:26,840 Speaker 8: here fighting together, and uh it it's kind of like 1729 01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,680 Speaker 8: that big brother little brother, Like I got a much 1730 01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,799 Speaker 8: respect for that guy with part of me even yourself. 1731 01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,200 Speaker 8: You mentioned him. Can you played this year and see 1732 01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:37,439 Speaker 8: in the game that you particular leadership right and. 1733 01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:39,400 Speaker 16: You know what was what it means seems like it 1734 01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:40,639 Speaker 16: been private, not even open. 1735 01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,919 Speaker 8: And he said, all the years and what make that change. 1736 01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,439 Speaker 2: In me that you was? What rout that change? 1737 01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:50,200 Speaker 8: Up. We well, just just seeing a real how real 1738 01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:53,680 Speaker 8: I c I don't even know how to explain Von 1739 01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:56,840 Speaker 8: Vaughan as a I don't know. He he almost contagious, 1740 01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:59,840 Speaker 8: like just his caarisma and how he acts and how 1741 01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:02,559 Speaker 8: you cares and stuff. It's almost contagious to the point 1742 01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:04,720 Speaker 8: where it kind of changed the way you act, and 1743 01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:06,800 Speaker 8: it kind of shows you a different light of how 1744 01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:09,680 Speaker 8: the NFL should go a little bit. So how he 1745 01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,360 Speaker 8: was he was man if it was anything on his 1746 01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:14,800 Speaker 8: mind that he thought could help you be better, he 1747 01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:16,360 Speaker 8: would tell you. So I kind of feel like that 1748 01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,720 Speaker 8: with the younger guys, and I think that's kind of 1749 01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:21,599 Speaker 8: like like kind of carry me into like the leadership role, 1750 01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:24,960 Speaker 8: the role where guys can come ask me different things. 1751 01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:26,920 Speaker 8: So I think that's just kind of how to happen. 1752 01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:29,840 Speaker 2: All Right, some good insight there from Ed Oliver, not 1753 01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,160 Speaker 2: only on Trey being back and what that's like, but 1754 01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,840 Speaker 2: the defense as a whole, and how surprised he is that. 1755 01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:38,200 Speaker 1: He's already in his seventh season up. 1756 01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:42,080 Speaker 3: Just to double check up, right, we have. 1757 01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:43,639 Speaker 2: To take a break here. Maddy and I have one 1758 01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:45,680 Speaker 2: segment to go. We'll try to fit a phone call in. 1759 01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:47,560 Speaker 2: I know Mark and Buffalo is waiting. We'll try to 1760 01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,400 Speaker 2: punch him up. And any questions you might have on 1761 01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:52,640 Speaker 2: the mail bag on the tweet sheets side, we'll get 1762 01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:54,200 Speaker 2: to those when we return here on One Bill's Live. 1763 01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:54,800 Speaker 1: Stay with us. 1764 01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,200 Speaker 2: All right back here on One Bill's Live for one 1765 01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,439 Speaker 2: final segment. Can I squeeze in a phone call here 1766 01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:10,080 Speaker 2: before we're done for the day, And to Mark and 1767 01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:11,400 Speaker 2: Buffalo we go, what do you got Mark? 1768 01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,040 Speaker 16: Hey, guys, A couple of quick questions and then a 1769 01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:18,599 Speaker 16: quick comment, do you have any idea that possibly day 1770 01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:22,479 Speaker 16: Kwon Jones's roster spot could be in jeopardy at any point, 1771 01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:28,200 Speaker 16: especially after Hoit Nogan Jobi's suspensions are over? Second, how 1772 01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:33,400 Speaker 16: has Benford looked? I'm assuming the quiet veteran, just doing 1773 01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:35,439 Speaker 16: his job like he always is, but if there's any 1774 01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:38,639 Speaker 16: comments you could make about him? And then what really 1775 01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:43,000 Speaker 16: compelled me to call was listening to Tredavius and I 1776 01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:47,840 Speaker 16: just wanted to say, you know, as Bill's Mafia Bill's fans, 1777 01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:50,439 Speaker 16: we love our team, We love all the players. Once 1778 01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:52,840 Speaker 16: a Bill, always a Bill, but there's always a few 1779 01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,040 Speaker 16: guys that just seem to mean a little bit more, 1780 01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:59,280 Speaker 16: and that we really care about more than a lot 1781 01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:03,160 Speaker 16: of guys, and Tredavius falls right in at Kyle Williams 1782 01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:08,559 Speaker 16: segment of players over the years. I believe nothing warms 1783 01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:12,080 Speaker 16: my heart personally more than one of a bill leaves 1784 01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:13,760 Speaker 16: and comes back and he says this. 1785 01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:14,639 Speaker 11: Place is home. 1786 01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,719 Speaker 16: That's always great to hear. And I think his value 1787 01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,720 Speaker 16: to the team this year is going to be immeasurable, 1788 01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:25,360 Speaker 16: whether he's starting or not. I mean I think he's probably, 1789 01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,160 Speaker 16: if not the most, one of the most respected guys 1790 01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:31,760 Speaker 16: in that locker room. So it just I just hope 1791 01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:35,479 Speaker 16: they're able to do something really special this year with 1792 01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,200 Speaker 16: him on the team. It would be awesome. That's all 1793 01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:38,760 Speaker 16: I have to say. 1794 01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:41,120 Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Okay, yeah, thanks Mark. 1795 01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:42,840 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are happy to see 1796 01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:44,920 Speaker 2: Trey back. I mean, you saw he's hugging Dion's kids 1797 01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:46,120 Speaker 2: on the sideline yesterday. 1798 01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:48,720 Speaker 1: Uncle Trey is back, you know. I mean, how do 1799 01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:49,240 Speaker 1: you beat that? 1800 01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,160 Speaker 2: But I think it just speaks to the family atmosphere here. 1801 01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:54,000 Speaker 2: You want to address Benford's play so far. 1802 01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,720 Speaker 3: In can Yeah, Benford has been so solid to tech him. 1803 01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:59,560 Speaker 4: I mean, first day he kind of took over the 1804 01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:01,599 Speaker 4: entire best player on the best player on the field 1805 01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:02,240 Speaker 4: that day, and. 1806 01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:03,559 Speaker 3: It was obvious to see. 1807 01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:06,160 Speaker 4: Now Benford's out there quite a bit, but he's not 1808 01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:09,840 Speaker 4: gonna get every single rep. He had a nice pass 1809 01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:11,840 Speaker 4: break up today. I want to say, I can't remember 1810 01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:13,800 Speaker 4: a far side of the field. So far side of 1811 01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:17,559 Speaker 4: the field. He just showcases his physicality, like like our 1812 01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:20,040 Speaker 4: caller said, just you know, a quiet veteran. That is 1813 01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:22,640 Speaker 4: how he operates. But man oh man, he's physical on 1814 01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:23,000 Speaker 4: the field. 1815 01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:25,960 Speaker 1: He's been dominant through the first three days. I think 1816 01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:27,320 Speaker 1: that is fair to say. 1817 01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:32,120 Speaker 2: I think with respect to day Kwon Jones, it's a 1818 01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:35,720 Speaker 2: good point mark. You know, roster spots could be hard 1819 01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:38,720 Speaker 2: to come by once Hoyd and Ogan Jobey get back 1820 01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:42,560 Speaker 2: into the fold. Dakwon Jose day Kwon Jones is a 1821 01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:44,720 Speaker 2: veteran player who I think is very well respected, who 1822 01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:46,120 Speaker 2: I think can still play good football. 1823 01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:50,439 Speaker 1: But the rub comes somewhere there. 1824 01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,800 Speaker 2: At that position and you have rookies you've invested high 1825 01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,920 Speaker 2: draft choices in and Dion Walker and TJ. Sanders, So 1826 01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,800 Speaker 2: does the old go out? Here's the problem if he's 1827 01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,439 Speaker 2: on the roster when they may fifty three and through 1828 01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:04,880 Speaker 2: the first week of the season into week two. His 1829 01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,519 Speaker 2: contract is guaranteed for the rest of the year, whether 1830 01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,560 Speaker 2: he's on the roster or not, so they might have 1831 01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:12,040 Speaker 2: to do some roster juggling there if he's a consideration 1832 01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,240 Speaker 2: for that. Just something to think about when we get 1833 01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,280 Speaker 2: closer to August twenty six, which is cut down date 1834 01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:18,760 Speaker 2: of fifty three. That's up it for us this week. 1835 01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:20,800 Speaker 2: We'll be back on Monday. Steve will be back in 1836 01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:23,479 Speaker 2: the saddle. We'll see you then for more training camp coverage.