Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is an exclusive
Speaker 1: presentation of Dallas Cowboys Breaking News. Welcome to a special
Speaker 1: addition of a podcast. I guess today after the first
Speaker 1: round of the draft, and boy, what a hodgepodge of
Speaker 1: talent do we have on this thing, if you can
Speaker 1: even call this talent. But we have some experts and
Speaker 1: I'm sure we all have big feelings in this room.
Speaker 1: Just raise a hands, just real quick before I introduce you, guys,
Speaker 1: who who's Who's okay with the pick? Okay? Who's good
Speaker 1: with the pick? Who likes the pick? Okay? All right,
Speaker 1: well I will introduce you to everyone that likes good
Speaker 1: That will be Rob hell Ups, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, Welcome to the show. Rob, welcome, Thank you,
Speaker 1: bless me, thank you. Uh Isaiah stand back? Is he
Speaker 1: likes to pick? Nick? Eveman? What is good with the pick?
Speaker 1: Good with the pick? You like to pick? You picked
Speaker 1: a man in the magazine as you're or on the
Speaker 1: website as you're Yeah, I thought's what I thought they
Speaker 1: would pick. But I mean you have some concerns. We'll see,
Speaker 1: we'll see if you like it. But the thing is
Speaker 1: is we need to talk about like this whole notion
Speaker 1: of well they could have got him in the second round,
Speaker 1: that's a bunch of crap, Like they weren't gonna get him.
Speaker 1: They needed aligneman. He wasn't gonna be there and and
Speaker 1: they that's who they needed to get. They must get alignement.
Speaker 1: I don't care what steven of them said. They needed
Speaker 1: you know, it was a must, and they got him.
Speaker 1: Need must semantics. They needed a lineman. They needed a
Speaker 1: guy who could play guard or at least compete right
Speaker 1: away at guard um. But Nick Nick brings up a
Speaker 1: good point because I think fans, maybe fans think that
Speaker 1: they've got thirty two first round grades every year. They
Speaker 1: had a low number. This year they had fourteen. Typically
Speaker 1: it might be twenty, it might be a little less
Speaker 1: than twenty. So that's why Jerry was hesitant to say
Speaker 1: we had a second round grade on him, and he was.
Speaker 1: I think he was the second highest second round grade
Speaker 1: that they had sixteenth overall on their board. But that's
Speaker 1: that's why he said he's a first round player in
Speaker 1: our minds because we couldn't have waited. I couldn't have you.
Speaker 1: On Wednesday, I was told he was the Tyler Smith
Speaker 1: had the second highest second round grade on the board
Speaker 1: and the highest one I think was the safety from
Speaker 1: Georgia scene, so he was available. They could have taken him.
Speaker 1: He was the highest rated player on their board, and
Speaker 1: from what I was told, and I think even what
Speaker 1: Jerry kind of said, that was true. But then they
Speaker 1: went with, you know, what's the need because they've signed
Speaker 1: two safeties and they haven't signed an offensive alignment, so
Speaker 1: obviously it was a bigger need and is Saia. I'll
Speaker 1: ask you this. I mean, at some point you just
Speaker 1: need a you just need a big effort get in
Speaker 1: there and around. Well, you got that right. I can't
Speaker 1: tell you how many times have I said on the
Speaker 1: show on the previous talking cowboys that they need a
Speaker 1: big nasty, they need a big time I mean, I
Speaker 1: know we just mentioned beast. There's only one big nasty.
Speaker 1: What's that? Williamson is the big nasty. There's a couple. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you need I mean, you needed a guy that came
Speaker 1: in there and that was gonna support It was gonna
Speaker 1: be pretty much book in ty to be honest, right,
Speaker 1: you do you weren't ready to replace him yet, right,
Speaker 1: you knew he hasn't been bad enough for you to
Speaker 1: go ahead and just move on from that project. He's
Speaker 1: been good enough, right, I mean it's bad, what's what
Speaker 1: I mean? But he hasn't. I don't think he's lost
Speaker 1: you any ball games. So I think that you put
Speaker 1: obviously you have all pro on it on the right side,
Speaker 1: you have all pro on the right side. You put
Speaker 1: somebody else on the left side that can learn from Tyrn. Right,
Speaker 1: we know that he's not gonna be around forever, so
Speaker 1: you need somebody that can play both positions potentially, because
Speaker 1: we know how valuable wing tackles and versatile office of
Speaker 1: a lineman r here with the Dallas Cowboys. So I
Speaker 1: think that this was a perfect pick for them in
Speaker 1: terms of who they were able to be able to
Speaker 1: go out and grab. Yeah, you know, I I said,
Speaker 1: there's I wrote this last night. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: ways to label picks. We say, like, you know, best
Speaker 1: available player, biggest need, um a now pick a later pick.
Speaker 1: I think this guy almost addresses all of that. I
Speaker 1: think he was their biggest need. I think he I
Speaker 1: think it was their best available player other than that
Speaker 1: one safety. But I think, you know, he was their
Speaker 1: best available player. I think he helps him now at guard.
Speaker 1: I think he helps him later. And then, like Isaiah said,
Speaker 1: a premier position and a weird thing too about this guy.
Speaker 1: It's gonna play left guard. Tyler Smith is gonna play
Speaker 1: right next to a Tyler end a Smith. Yep, Tyron Smith. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was That was a weird story I wrote last
Speaker 1: night where it was like Tyron Smith, Tyler Smith, Tyre
Speaker 1: and Tyler. I mean, I mean, I'm gonna screw that
Speaker 1: up many times over the next twenty four months. Whoever
Speaker 1: long real quickly, there's a tweet from Dane Brugler, friend
Speaker 1: of the Draft show, and you know he puts out
Speaker 1: the beast every year. He studies all these guys. He knows,
Speaker 1: you know. He said, Tyler Smith currently very raw, undisciplined hands, chaotic,
Speaker 1: chaotic timing leads to balance issues. But he said what
Speaker 1: Nick just said, like he he can come in right away.
Speaker 1: You hope he can start at guard. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's played as a high school played. He only had
Speaker 1: twenty three starts at Tulsa, all at left tackle, But
Speaker 1: that would be the hope. And Mike said he'll take
Speaker 1: some reps at left tackle. I don't know if they
Speaker 1: view him as a potential swing tackle or a insurance
Speaker 1: policy for Tyrant if Tyrant missus games, which Tyrant has
Speaker 1: not had a complete seasons is twenty fifteen. So there's that.
Speaker 1: And then there's the down the road thing that Nick
Speaker 1: mentioned and Nick wrote about last night. So there's that.
Speaker 1: So I get why fans are don't like to pick
Speaker 1: like you, they'll raise the hands at the start of
Speaker 1: the show. I think there's fans that would not raise
Speaker 1: their hand, and maybe they're thinking about Taco in twenty
Speaker 1: seventeen to some degree because Taco didn't play a lot,
Speaker 1: didn't start a lot of games at Michigan, didn't have
Speaker 1: a lot of production. But the Cowboys said upside upside,
Speaker 1: that upside never showed up. They're counting on upside here,
Speaker 1: And I think what Will McClay said last night really
Speaker 1: stuck out to me in terms of, you know, they
Speaker 1: were kept getting asked about all the penalties he had
Speaker 1: in college, and that's that's a problem that was a
Speaker 1: problem here last year. But Will had a quote about
Speaker 1: he's big. He's a big, athletic, physical man that's gonna
Speaker 1: play in a big athletic, physical league. And that's what
Speaker 1: we liked about him. You can't teach that. You can't
Speaker 1: teach his size, his strength that I'm not sure, Isaiah,
Speaker 1: you can teach his temperament. Like you talked to him
Speaker 1: on the phone last night, he talked about, I'm a
Speaker 1: nasty physical player. I don't know if that necessarily can
Speaker 1: be taught the NFL level. No, it's a mentality. It's
Speaker 1: a mentality. And you know you saw his interviews um
Speaker 1: last night when he was speaking about how that is
Speaker 1: really bred in that total program. Right, It's taught, it's
Speaker 1: expected in that program. So now you now, obviously you
Speaker 1: go out and you get somebody who has a physical stature,
Speaker 1: who has the attributes that you're looking for at that
Speaker 1: particular position, but also, like you said, having that tenacity,
Speaker 1: having that that kind of that dog that you were
Speaker 1: talking about, the office of alignment and having big nasty.
Speaker 1: Big nasty doesn't necessarily mean like just a big physical man.
Speaker 1: It means like a mentality. Right. So when I was
Speaker 1: here playing for Dallas, we had a whole line of
Speaker 1: big nasties, right, We had a big, big Flow. He
Speaker 1: was a mean, little bastard, right, and then you had nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I know he was so Flow was mean.
Speaker 1: He was a bully, little yeah, but Flow was a bullets.
Speaker 1: And then we had Leonard Davis. Leonard was a bully, right.
Speaker 1: He was a large human being, but he was a bully.
Speaker 1: Quite soft spoken guy, but he's gonna drive you in
Speaker 1: the ground. Andrew Girard is the biggest bully I know, right,
Speaker 1: He's gonna try to hes gonna play nasty, he's gonna
Speaker 1: do dirty stuff behind the scenes, like all those things
Speaker 1: that you need. And then we had you know, Kylar,
Speaker 1: we had Kozar, and then we also had a big
Speaker 1: big Colombo had a mind full of guys that wanted
Speaker 1: to fight, like they just wanted to fight, and they
Speaker 1: wanted they were they were hoping that you would say
Speaker 1: something crazy to him because if they couldn't get you,
Speaker 1: their boy was gonna get you. And that's the type
Speaker 1: of player. This guy feels like I feel like he is,
Speaker 1: you know. LYA. Collins was sort of that way as well,
Speaker 1: and Connor Williams had a little bit of that to
Speaker 1: him too, even he did. I mean, I mean, you
Speaker 1: ask any of those guys who they would take into
Speaker 1: a bar fight and his name came up a lot,
Speaker 1: and Connor Williams. I mean he fought Aaron Donald at practice,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, he wasn't afraid of it.
Speaker 1: I mean, so those those guys, and you're right, you
Speaker 1: have to replace them. But I do think that you know,
Speaker 1: from a just from a size standpoint, just stature alone.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've always think man that they don't push
Speaker 1: people back, and I think he should be able to
Speaker 1: do that. I was impressed with some of the tape
Speaker 1: that I saw. Um, you know when I'm watching Tulsa,
Speaker 1: you know when I watched those highlights, any highlights anything.
Speaker 1: My biggest pet peeves don't show me against Arkansas Pine Bluff,
Speaker 1: like show me against you're an SEC team, show me
Speaker 1: against Alabama Robert. And I liked some of the stuff
Speaker 1: that I saw against Oklahoma State that he was playing
Speaker 1: turning people inside, really used his body. And there's reps
Speaker 1: out there on Twitter two where he's getting tossed around,
Speaker 1: but that that happens. He's he's twenty. He turned twenty
Speaker 1: one three weeks ago. And I'm not comparing him to
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith. But when they drafted Tiring eleven years ago,
Speaker 1: he was twenty years old. So they're looking at a
Speaker 1: guy who's young, who hasn't played a lot, but they
Speaker 1: see the physical traits and they think that the penalty
Speaker 1: part of things can be coached away because they've done
Speaker 1: that so well. Well this past year not so well,
Speaker 1: but real quick, okay, okay, I go ahead. Well, I
Speaker 1: would just say the counterpoint to that is, yes, that's
Speaker 1: a huge problem. They can't have that continue. Like that's
Speaker 1: that that helped cost them the playoff game. But if
Speaker 1: you're going to knock him for that, let's let's point
Speaker 1: out that, you know, Terrence Steals an undrafted rookie. In
Speaker 1: the last two years now he's developed into a starter. Like,
Speaker 1: let's not say they can't develop lineman. And I think
Speaker 1: they're develop right yotish right now. And with their track
Speaker 1: record in the first round, I'm not saying he's necessarily
Speaker 1: going to be a tyrant Smith through Zach Martin or
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick. But maybe they should get a little bit
Speaker 1: of a benefit of the doubt for what they've done
Speaker 1: at that position in the first round over the last decade.
Speaker 1: And I think you also have to point this out too.
Speaker 1: He laid at Tulsa. His head coach is Philip Montgomery. Okay,
Speaker 1: I've known him in the past. He used to be
Speaker 1: on the staff at Baylor. Art Brows and those guys
Speaker 1: that that staff, that offense is different than other offenses. Okay,
Speaker 1: they they probably get They snapped the ball every fifteen seconds.
Speaker 1: They probably have three hundred more snaps than other teams do.
Speaker 1: So his twelve, his twelve penalties is a lot in
Speaker 1: our stat but he's playing a lot now. When he
Speaker 1: gives up two sacks, he only gives up two sacks.
Speaker 1: That's a stat that sounds all. That's a good stat.
Speaker 1: You could say, well, he's holding people that or he
Speaker 1: would give up more sacks, or they get the ball
Speaker 1: out so quick. So that's not a great stat for him.
Speaker 1: That like, he's only giving up two sacks because they're
Speaker 1: not they're not playing long enough for that. So on
Speaker 1: one hand, I think that the part about him not
Speaker 1: giving up sacks is little misleading. I think the I
Speaker 1: think the holding penalty is also misleading. He's having to
Speaker 1: play a lot more football than other other guys are.
Speaker 1: It's get to the line, go go, go, get to
Speaker 1: the line. Block black block, get to the line. That's
Speaker 1: their offense, and so you gotta be a little careful
Speaker 1: with judging for sure. And then but you also have
Speaker 1: to take into it the fact that he's not going
Speaker 1: to be on an island here in Dallas. He's not
Speaker 1: gonna be on an island. He's gonna be between two
Speaker 1: other large human beings, and he's gonna have support and
Speaker 1: they're gonna work together in unit sense. When you're that
Speaker 1: left tackle, you are literally on an island by yourself
Speaker 1: unless you're down blocking. So he's gonna have more support
Speaker 1: than he's had in the past. And whether the holding penalties,
Speaker 1: that's something they have to attack because that lost Connor
Speaker 1: Williams's job last year obviously, But that'd be something that
Speaker 1: he'll have a whole OTA's a work through. Who'll have
Speaker 1: all of the camp to work through, so who'll have
Speaker 1: an opportunity to come in and catch up with the
Speaker 1: speed Phil Yeah, And I would say this, like, I
Speaker 1: know our fans weren't ecstatic, or the majority of them
Speaker 1: weren't exta. There were a few people cheering out on
Speaker 1: the plaza. Just wait because if if you're basing this off,
Speaker 1: like who the guy is in offensive line, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to bet against Will McClay in this staff when
Speaker 1: it comes to drafting an offensive line in the first round. Look,
Speaker 1: remember a guy named Travis Frederick that everybody's like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, who's this guy they reach for? This guy's
Speaker 1: very similar first round? Yeah, very similar? Want, right, what
Speaker 1: do they want? Michael Parsons, which you're not picking in
Speaker 1: the top ten this year? And so everybody wants to
Speaker 1: score points, but nobody wants to get always along. Here's
Speaker 1: here's here's. Here's my question for y'all, because I think
Speaker 1: I think our whole fan base was on board with
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. I think my question you guys is
Speaker 1: this guy sounds like he's a little bit of a
Speaker 1: developmental guy, right, Like he's gonna start and work his
Speaker 1: way in and work his way out. Was there a
Speaker 1: guy there, Lyndon Baum was there that went right after us,
Speaker 1: that could have started center That lets you know what
Speaker 1: they think about be honest, right, like they Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was there a guy there that they could have taken.
Speaker 1: That's like, no, this guy's coming in and he's starting.
Speaker 1: It sounds like this guy is a potential start, but
Speaker 1: he's gonna have some work to do, Like I think
Speaker 1: that's what the fans are like, Okay, this guy, you
Speaker 1: got to develop him. Couldn't you have gotten a guy
Speaker 1: that comes in and immediately he's but Linda doesn't fix
Speaker 1: their biggest needs. Yes, their biggest need was guarded. They're
Speaker 1: telling you that. I don't know if I had necessarily agree,
Speaker 1: but they think that the Honest is further down the
Speaker 1: road than McGovern so they need to fix. They feel
Speaker 1: like the center it can be Okay, you put a
Speaker 1: big guy next to him and Zach Martin that the
Speaker 1: Honest will continue to make this thing go. So they
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Like what what? What else did
Speaker 1: you want Devin Lloyd from? That might be part of
Speaker 1: it that there were some defensive guys who fell that
Speaker 1: people had heard about, Devin Lloyd and Nakobe Dean and
Speaker 1: Jermaine Johnson, top Edge Rusher. Yeah, Daniel Jeremiah is on
Speaker 1: NFL never agree. He's spening last night and saying he's
Speaker 1: he's my ninth rated guy, and it's like, you have
Speaker 1: a good night, Daryl Jeremiah. I mean like that's and
Speaker 1: nothing again. These guys study, but but I just think
Speaker 1: it's funny when fans are like this this guy's not
Speaker 1: any good. I'm like, says who says says the people
Speaker 1: on the big boards and all that, and and our guys,
Speaker 1: our draft show guys. I mean they work hard to
Speaker 1: study these Yes, they still they still look at four
Speaker 1: or five games, you know, like that's all, that's all
Speaker 1: you have time for if you want to study four
Speaker 1: hundred guys, these guys over there, I mean, I'll give you.
Speaker 1: Let me give you a stat real quick. This this
Speaker 1: this is a surprise. You said you're not gonna bet
Speaker 1: against Will McClay, Dave Hellman, and I looked at the
Speaker 1: last five years first round picks in the last five
Speaker 1: years in the whole league. It's one hundred and sixty guys.
Speaker 1: I think five years, one hundred and sixty guys. How
Speaker 1: many Pro Bowlers you think there are in one hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty first round picks of the last five years,
Speaker 1: out of one sixty, out of one sixty this is
Speaker 1: the last five first round picks. How many of them
Speaker 1: make the Pro Bowl have made a Pro Bowl? Twenty percent? Yea,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say about thirty thirty. It's twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one guys, which is twelve percent. Wow. So in the
Speaker 1: last twenty years, the Cowboys have nineteen first round picks,
Speaker 1: and fourteen of them have made the Pro Bowl. Let's
Speaker 1: seven talking about percent y'all, just wait, Cowboy fans, wait,
Speaker 1: give you can throw Taco and Mo Clayborne and Bobby
Speaker 1: Carpenter and Felix and Marcus Spears all day long within
Speaker 1: the rest of them, and well and we'll come back
Speaker 1: all with all these other guys. I mean, so especially
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. Yeah, so, I mean, I just want to
Speaker 1: that's a great that's a great fact of numbers. There.
Speaker 1: You gotta process some numbers. But I mean, seventy three
Speaker 1: and I and I can go back to last twenty
Speaker 1: years in the NFL. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's probably about that. How sick would Cowboys
Speaker 1: fans be had they passed on this and grabbed a defender,
Speaker 1: had they passed on this on this pick and grabbed
Speaker 1: a defender and then waited for their next opportunity to
Speaker 1: give Who are you picking up? You think you think
Speaker 1: this guy's raw? Yeah? What are you getting? Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a position that you have to feel or you're starter.
Speaker 1: You'd be walking in and you have a team, you'd
Speaker 1: be walking in tonight with two picks, being like, well,
Speaker 1: we need a guard, we need a slash tackle, we
Speaker 1: need a wide receiver and maybe an edge rusher, and
Speaker 1: no way, we have two picks. You know, that's that's
Speaker 1: part of the deal man. But it's not like they
Speaker 1: super reach back to next point. They did not. And
Speaker 1: and this is a fact, Steven said this last night.
Speaker 1: There's a team that tried to trade up with them
Speaker 1: right before and they said no. And Steven got a
Speaker 1: text right after that said this was that was our guy.
Speaker 1: A good thing he didn't trade with us. So it's
Speaker 1: not like they're just on this island reaching for a
Speaker 1: guy who would have gone at fifty, have been gone anywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take some phone calls. Call us eight eight
Speaker 1: eight eight five five two two nine seven. We've got
Speaker 1: someone on hold before we before we get to that,
Speaker 1: I just want to throw this out there. Did the
Speaker 1: Eagles just become the favorite in the division? I mean,
Speaker 1: if if their quarterback can be average or a little
Speaker 1: bit above average, and what they added on defense, like,
Speaker 1: are they the Are they hands down the favorite right now?
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're the I don't think they're
Speaker 1: the favorite, but I looked at Jordan Davis was my
Speaker 1: favorite pick and the favorite guy in the whole draft.
Speaker 1: We talked about him on Talking Cowboys and when they
Speaker 1: made that pick, I was like, well, I hope the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are getting a guard here at twenty four because
Speaker 1: they've got to block him now bigger than him, and
Speaker 1: they got yeah, maybe, yeah, I mean seriously, I mean
Speaker 1: it'll that'll be a I mean I was gonna discuss.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, they can't. They can't, And they
Speaker 1: have other guys. They have a problem handling Fletcher Coxy
Speaker 1: playing by put this guy in there with him? What
Speaker 1: are you gonna do in sweat? Wasn't around last time?
Speaker 1: All these guys like they hardgro of they have I
Speaker 1: mean nasty. Let's go to the breaking ye, we're not
Speaker 1: taking breaks. Just go to the phones, Chris. Who do
Speaker 1: we have on the phone? Thirty second rule? By the way,
Speaker 1: I told you, but I forgot who it is. He's
Speaker 1: in San Antonio. Bring him on? Who we got? Hey,
Speaker 1: what's going on? It's to Tony? What's up Tony? Thanks
Speaker 1: for holding man? We got we got long Windy, We
Speaker 1: got lots to say today. No problem here, I'll try
Speaker 1: to make this quick. First of all, the whole point
Speaker 1: about Matt liking the pick is because of our coaches.
Speaker 1: I just I don't believe that we could scheme up
Speaker 1: to get good quality blocking out of our whole offensive
Speaker 1: line group and then to put him out there, especially
Speaker 1: when the Eagles are drafting a big boy Jordan Davis,
Speaker 1: And you know, I just think that our quality coaches
Speaker 1: is under Dan Quinn, we should have really just build
Speaker 1: our defense. So that's what we should have done, at
Speaker 1: least in my opinions, that should have. Just we gotta
Speaker 1: believe in the coaches and what they're gonna do. If
Speaker 1: we're gonna develop a guy, at least develop them on
Speaker 1: the defense. Where our defense is on the rise and
Speaker 1: our offense is going down, why not wait wait, wait wait,
Speaker 1: I hate that was a bad cut offer for him,
Speaker 1: And I get the thirty second rule, but I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: all right, keep going no, no, no, no, no no, no no,
Speaker 1: And why all I'm saying, wait a minute, we agreed
Speaker 1: before we came on the air. You agreed. No, you
Speaker 1: said you want to do anything other than what the
Speaker 1: other option was, Okay, And this is turning into the
Speaker 1: I said it was a bad It was a bad
Speaker 1: cutoff for him, not for Chris. How about when he's
Speaker 1: got ten seconds left, do the Mario drop? Just give
Speaker 1: him the ten second point, no, as a warning so
Speaker 1: you can wrap it up. It's fine, it's fine, but
Speaker 1: but but it gets to me that's hypocritical. That's a
Speaker 1: hypocritical statement to say, to say, we build the defense,
Speaker 1: and so the offense is on. Defense is on the rise,
Speaker 1: offense is going down. So let's not fix the offense.
Speaker 1: You want this thing to be level, right, I mean
Speaker 1: if somethings, Yeah, I Tony, thanks for the call, man,
Speaker 1: but I'm a total opposite in the defense on this
Speaker 1: built the defense. Yeah, you got a stud you got
Speaker 1: some good players, so let's fix this offense. I mean,
Speaker 1: Tony was talking. I thought I thought Rob varted over
Speaker 1: there because you really didn't agree with that, No, Tony, Yeah, yeah, No,
Speaker 1: we're not on the same page, bro, because your greatest
Speaker 1: investment on this team is at what position? Quarterback? Quarterback?
Speaker 1: All right? Cool, all right, that's that said. Alright, when
Speaker 1: we started looking at some of the other guys, all right,
Speaker 1: quarterbacks number one, then you're looking at who who I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean name your top five guys. Your top five
Speaker 1: guys are probably on most of them on offense. Okay,
Speaker 1: everybody agree on that? Okay, cool, So now that we've
Speaker 1: agreed on that, now let's look at the fact you
Speaker 1: have to be able to move the ball. This offensive
Speaker 1: line did not move the ball the way in which
Speaker 1: they wanted to. They were still effective because of a scheme,
Speaker 1: but they did not They were not able to line
Speaker 1: up in bullyball like the Dallas Cowboys. Identity of this
Speaker 1: organization has always been they were not able to do that.
Speaker 1: They did not have the personnel to efficiently and effectively
Speaker 1: run the ball last year. Do we agree on that.
Speaker 1: Now we have a quarterback that had a couple of issues,
Speaker 1: and camp had a couple of issues during the season.
Speaker 1: You might want to kind of keep him upright, right,
Speaker 1: He's a guy that you want around here and healthy.
Speaker 1: Guess what you need to make sure that he feels
Speaker 1: confident and secure standing up there in the dog on
Speaker 1: pocket to be able to deliver the ball to all
Speaker 1: these receivers. And I'm sure they're gonna grab some more
Speaker 1: that they have in this locker room. So if you
Speaker 1: can't secure the line of scrimmage, and control the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, because you're gonna be playing against seven hundred
Speaker 1: pounds of grown men when you play against Fifth Philly.
Speaker 1: Just in their two just in their two techniques right there,
Speaker 1: right inside inside the gaps, you're gonna have seven hundred pounds.
Speaker 1: If you can't block that up, what do you think
Speaker 1: that you're gonna do? I don't care what your defense
Speaker 1: looks like. Look at look at the certain matchups that
Speaker 1: they played last year where they really struggled with Connor
Speaker 1: Williams and then beyond in there, you know, left guard center,
Speaker 1: Kansas City comes to mind, Tampa comes to mind, San
Speaker 1: Francisco comes to minds are one when person was wrecking everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and my last image of this offense was Dak getting
Speaker 1: pressured the most times he's been pressured the whole season
Speaker 1: against San Francisco. And this offense couldn't run the ball.
Speaker 1: But average is like just over one hundred yards the
Speaker 1: last half of the season. Like they have to fix it.
Speaker 1: Question now, is Kent Tyler Smith come in and be
Speaker 1: a plug and play left guard? Well, we'll see, we'll see,
Speaker 1: but they certainly hope he can be if he's here.
Speaker 1: Sixteenth player on your board, and he feels a need,
Speaker 1: he better comes start. He has to s Yeah, he
Speaker 1: has due. He's not just a future left tackle. I
Speaker 1: just don't think you draft the guy at that spot
Speaker 1: if he's If that question hasn't already been answered in
Speaker 1: the war in the war room of does he come
Speaker 1: in and play? No, I asked the question to Stephen
Speaker 1: Jones and he didn't really. He's like, Oh, I don't
Speaker 1: know about you know, come in and start right away.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, but we're talking about guard. We're
Speaker 1: not talking about tackle. And that's not to demean the position,
Speaker 1: but the demands of a left guard are extremely less
Speaker 1: than a left tackle. Yeah, so the position that he
Speaker 1: played in college, if he was coming in here, we're
Speaker 1: expected to play left tackle. That's a whole other conversation, right,
Speaker 1: because you're gonna be facing some of the league's best
Speaker 1: at that position. You're not facing Aaron Donald every week.
Speaker 1: You're not facing an Aaron Donald every week, and you're
Speaker 1: not gonna be facing a Philly every week twice a
Speaker 1: year now, but they're gonna be You're not gonna be
Speaker 1: facing teams that have multiple dominant guys on the inside. Now,
Speaker 1: you got Washington teams like that. But these guys, you
Speaker 1: still have help on both sides. You're not by yourself.
Speaker 1: So the fact that it's a lot easier to grab
Speaker 1: a guard or grab a tackle and convert him over
Speaker 1: to a guard temporarily and him still be effective. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, Chris, we got another call, Yes we do.
Speaker 1: We got Eric in North Carolina. Oh no, Eric, what's up?
Speaker 1: Oh no? He hung up? What's up? Oh man? Did
Speaker 1: he hang up? Or was that user error back there
Speaker 1: that you hang out? He sounded busy back there, Chris here, okay,
Speaker 1: another one. I can hear the phone. I'm sorry, I've
Speaker 1: got I've got Eli and corpus Christie, Eli. How's it going.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty good. Pretty good. Guys. Love you guys, eating everyone.
Speaker 1: You'll listen to you all the time. I think, I know,
Speaker 1: I got thirty seconds. I just wanted to say that.
Speaker 1: I think the whole thing that y'all are missing is
Speaker 1: that we've done this with Connor McGrath, gover, We've done
Speaker 1: this with Williams. We've we've done the second round talent
Speaker 1: and a reaching board, and I know you bring up
Speaker 1: our scanner, Frederick and and and other situations. There's gonna
Speaker 1: be good and there's gonna be bad. But I've seen
Speaker 1: too many bad decisions on the guard position lately to
Speaker 1: trust at a first round pig. Who who's a red?
Speaker 1: I mean who? He did not have a good college
Speaker 1: career to begin with, that true that, I mean, he's
Speaker 1: a freshman All American. Here's a freshman All American and
Speaker 1: he made and he made All Conference in the American
Speaker 1: Athletic Conference, which you can say what you want. It
Speaker 1: also had team in the in the final four of
Speaker 1: the of the you know, within Cincinnati, which Tulsa almost beat,
Speaker 1: by the way. I mean, that's not just that's not
Speaker 1: true that he did not have a good college career.
Speaker 1: He had a really good He's he can't even buy
Speaker 1: a beer and he's over here and you know, I
Speaker 1: mean he's like twenty years old. Like that's that's that narrative.
Speaker 1: I don't know who you're listening to. That's not true.
Speaker 1: He did have a good college career. And you can
Speaker 1: if you want to compare him just to the position
Speaker 1: to Connor Williams and Connor McGovern that's good luck because
Speaker 1: because they were both light in the ass, they were
Speaker 1: not movers like this guy's a house like this. It's
Speaker 1: it's different. And I'm not saying he's gonna be great.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just saying you can't just go
Speaker 1: around saying, well, this didn't work, this didn't work. I mean, well,
Speaker 1: let's don't pick him because Reggie Robinson didn't work out
Speaker 1: at Tulsa, So let's don't take this guy, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just you can't. It's not it's unfair
Speaker 1: to everybody to just compare that way. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: they're still trying. He I mean, Connor Williams is not
Speaker 1: a bad player, but as a second round draft pick,
Speaker 1: you would have hoped you could have he would have
Speaker 1: played well enough to where you're, okay, we want to
Speaker 1: keep him for a second contract. That didn't happen. Connor
Speaker 1: McGovern has had some good and some bad. Obviously they're
Speaker 1: looking to upgrade that position, so I see his point. Overall,
Speaker 1: they've had more hits than missus on the offensive line.
Speaker 1: I will just say that, you know, and hey, every
Speaker 1: five years or so, they haven't had a good first
Speaker 1: round pick. Five years ago, Taco, five years before that,
Speaker 1: mow Clayborn. I don't know, if that's going to repeat itself.
Speaker 1: When you're drafting at the back of the first round,
Speaker 1: there's less margin for error. There just is. But and
Speaker 1: in this draft, this draft was bananas, like the way
Speaker 1: it unfolded and the trading, and like the run on
Speaker 1: players and that the defensive Oh yeah, it was crazy.
Speaker 1: So like Isaiah's point earlier, like what were you supposed
Speaker 1: to don't know what? People like? What did you want
Speaker 1: to take a receiver? That was the people like this?
Speaker 1: They like the shiny stuff. Well for sure, and fans
Speaker 1: might say, well, how about spend some money in free
Speaker 1: agencies so where you're not potentially reaching, But they don't
Speaker 1: view it like they're reaching in this And Nick's right, like,
Speaker 1: we'll see how it turns out. I'm not bad against
Speaker 1: Will in the first round. I'm not. I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1: Just let me let me see, let's get into the sea.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think this was I don't think
Speaker 1: this was a reach. No, No, everybody wants Zeke to
Speaker 1: get back to being Zeke. Yes, that's what everybody's crying
Speaker 1: about last year. Zeke doesn't look like Zeke. But as
Speaker 1: soon as you draft somebody that's gonna help him look
Speaker 1: more like Zeke. People are like, oh, we should have
Speaker 1: went the other direction. You know this this guy. You
Speaker 1: just look at the stats here. I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: not stats, I mean you to look at this video.
Speaker 1: He doesn't really look like a tackle to me. He
Speaker 1: looks like a guard. And I was surprised, rob Ian,
Speaker 1: you can kind of you remember most of these guys.
Speaker 1: I was surprised how many tackles played played college football
Speaker 1: tackle that they Cowboys have moved to guard Collins. I
Speaker 1: counted like seven guys you know since I've been here.
Speaker 1: I mean, I flows out Adams was way back, but
Speaker 1: he did it for a couple of years and then
Speaker 1: actually moved Connor Williams, Lyell, Zach Martin, Ron Leary. Um,
Speaker 1: I think I'm missing at least one more. But I
Speaker 1: mean the guys that play tackle that just instantly come
Speaker 1: in and play guard. And here's another one. Chris got
Speaker 1: another phone call due. And if this guy hangs up
Speaker 1: on me again, I'm gonna be so mad. Who is
Speaker 1: we got? Eric? North Carolina? What's for lunch man? What's up?
Speaker 1: Raising Kane? Joe Kane? Here we go to the sandwich? Alright, alright, alright,
Speaker 1: I was writing some sauce off my own phone. What oh,
Speaker 1: I thought you said something else. I was like, that's
Speaker 1: not where the sauce goes, Eric, he goes on the tenders,
Speaker 1: not on that part of that. I would be real quick, y'all.
Speaker 1: You know, I've learned over the last few years to
Speaker 1: trust this team, to trust the decisions that they make
Speaker 1: to a certain extent. I really liked this pick. I
Speaker 1: think you couldn't really go any other way. And if
Speaker 1: anybody can coach him up, and seems he's open to
Speaker 1: the coaching, and then if that's anybody could coach him
Speaker 1: up is Joe Fielden. So I'm very thrilled with this coaching.
Speaker 1: I mean, with this decision. It reminds me of Travis
Speaker 1: Feder twenty thirteen. It's a lot of knocks on his game,
Speaker 1: but look look like when you turned out to be.
Speaker 1: And I feel confident about this kid. I feel I'll
Speaker 1: be going to build a team up in other areas
Speaker 1: throughout these next few rounds. A lot of talent left,
Speaker 1: so go Cowboys, and I can't wait to see what
Speaker 1: we do with next with with the rest of the draft,
Speaker 1: So you guys, enjoy the rest of you thank y'all
Speaker 1: and talk to y'all ever. Thank you, Eric, Jerry Jones,
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones. They wish they were that all the fans
Speaker 1: were like you, I'll tell you what they really do.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's positive. Eric is a is a regular
Speaker 1: on Hanging with the boys. That's fine. We always ask
Speaker 1: him what's for lunch because he calls in on Friday,
Speaker 1: and I will tell you what you heard, how how
Speaker 1: educated he was, how enthusiastic he was. That's the kind
Speaker 1: of listeners that that we we at Hanging with the boys.
Speaker 1: The people show God, we educate. We educate our fans,
Speaker 1: and that's what you get art educated. Showing just comes
Speaker 1: on later so that people have time to actually google's
Speaker 1: now that we missed you. We hadn't taken calls a while.
Speaker 1: I was good to hear from Eric, But I mean,
Speaker 1: does he ever go non sponsor? Uh? You he'd ever
Speaker 1: tell you what the lunch that's that's yeah, you gotta
Speaker 1: dump it. He he usually cooks his own stuff, like
Speaker 1: he that's how that got started. Like he's always he's
Speaker 1: he's a he cooks. He's a cook. Let me guess
Speaker 1: the thirty second rule is a Nate Newton rule Hu
Speaker 1: because Nate was like, listen, bro Man, we gotta get
Speaker 1: rid of this guy thirty seconds. What happened is we
Speaker 1: had we had callers that would call in and they
Speaker 1: would literally talk for like three minutes, and we were like, okay,
Speaker 1: we we got made about laugh We got an hour
Speaker 1: long show like we can't and Nate. Once you lose Nate,
Speaker 1: he's gone. Once he does this, like he's out the
Speaker 1: rest of the show. So we were like, all right,
Speaker 1: we gotta keep Nati Gays. So thirty seconds. But no,
Speaker 1: that was that was a good call. Yeah. By the way,
Speaker 1: nick I looked up his snaps nine hundred nine last year.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of nine hundred nine last year. No
Speaker 1: wonder he's holding. He's exhausted in comparison Zion Johnson, who
Speaker 1: everybody wanted seven hundred seventy seven. Okay, so you look
Speaker 1: up Kenyan Green. I will second, well, Kenyan Green, that
Speaker 1: I think was one of the not the biggest curveball,
Speaker 1: but earlier when that when he went off the board,
Speaker 1: I think that fifteen was like all right, now, this
Speaker 1: is gonna change things. Yeah, and Jerry said they had
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith ahead of both guys. I wonder with Kenyan
Speaker 1: Green if the whispers is about his knee leading up
Speaker 1: might have dropped him down um after the combine, But
Speaker 1: either way, that was kind of the group of guys
Speaker 1: they were looking at and and Linderbaum again center. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be a plug and play guy where he plays
Speaker 1: but doesn't fill a need for them Right now, what
Speaker 1: do you think they're gonna do today? Where do you
Speaker 1: think they go? Do? I wait, I think they'll get
Speaker 1: um uh, tight end and over. Those are the two
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna go in that order. No receiver tied end.
Speaker 1: But but if if it not necessarily, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think those are the two positions you would prefer. But um,
Speaker 1: but you know, for some reason that safety keeps popping up,
Speaker 1: and I don't know why. I just think that if
Speaker 1: there's one that they like, I mean, which is unlike them,
Speaker 1: very unlike them. So is j Ron Kurse gonna have
Speaker 1: LB next to his name next year? Is that basically
Speaker 1: why he's in the box and he's a linebacker. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Okay, yeah, thanks. They need linebackers, They really
Speaker 1: need linebackers, I think too. They just can't get around that.
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's if it's a traditional linebacker.
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's a linebacker, uh that likes
Speaker 1: to run around. But first guy on the book here
Speaker 1: on our Star magazine. Still they're still there in Nakobe Dean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't understand that they maybe they try to. I
Speaker 1: think it was because he didn't play at the defense
Speaker 1: that was very good. I don't think that Georgia defense
Speaker 1: was good last year. And knowing I'm kidding, like, yeah, guys,
Speaker 1: the explanation. Don't they give up like six points a game?
Speaker 1: What does he feel? How does he feel like? Okay,
Speaker 1: he won't be there long? No, this is one of
Speaker 1: those thirty thirty four thirty five overall, Like you know
Speaker 1: you're sitting right at the top. Yeah, you mentioned earlier
Speaker 1: wide receiver. How many do you think they're gonna try
Speaker 1: to go after hopefully on your one? Hopefully on your one. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean we heard so much this past year a
Speaker 1: year and a half about killing Moore in his system. Uh,
Speaker 1: they feel as if, I through their action as they
Speaker 1: feel as if they don't need a traditional number one receiver,
Speaker 1: even though you know they let Coop go and now
Speaker 1: everybody's like, oh, we're gonna make CD's gonna step up
Speaker 1: and be a number one. The reality is killing Moore
Speaker 1: is super duper confident in his system, and you don't.
Speaker 1: He doesn't feel the need for a number one. So
Speaker 1: now it's just a matter of Okay, let's start plugging
Speaker 1: and playing different attributes and different characteristics of receivers. Right,
Speaker 1: you have a CD who can kind of go inside
Speaker 1: and outside, who can be considered to be dominant. You
Speaker 1: got Gallop. Gallops are our go guy, and he's coming
Speaker 1: off injury, so as we still need to have some stuff.
Speaker 1: We got Simmy. We really don't know what Simmy can do, right,
Speaker 1: he didn't really touch the field much last year. You
Speaker 1: pick up James Washington. Okay, James Washingtons, you're more all
Speaker 1: right inside this kind of slot slot kind of guy
Speaker 1: that can get in and out. I think you need
Speaker 1: another James Washington ish guy, another Wes Welker Ish Beasley is,
Speaker 1: you know, one of those type of guys to be
Speaker 1: able to get you those easy five six yard you know, conversions,
Speaker 1: because that ultimately is all this team needs to just
Speaker 1: be able to move the ball down the field. I
Speaker 1: don't think that Dak's velocity of his arm is set
Speaker 1: up to be throwing the ball down the field. I
Speaker 1: just don't and I'll get cursed out for that all
Speaker 1: day long. I don't care. I don't believe, and I
Speaker 1: said it all year long, and know I have a
Speaker 1: lot of feeling to back it up. He doesn't have
Speaker 1: the velocity to push the ball down the field in
Speaker 1: which people the way people think that he does. So
Speaker 1: with that being the case, he is going to need
Speaker 1: other options underneath that can free themselves up, to free
Speaker 1: themselves up in coverage. And there's not a lot of
Speaker 1: man coverage nowadays, so you gotta have some smart guys.
Speaker 1: I know how to find them. They're wayh in his
Speaker 1: own which is why you're enfranchising you your tag in
Speaker 1: who nobody else really wouldn't franchised. Yeah, to your point,
Speaker 1: like Chris o'lavia was a guy a lot of fans
Speaker 1: wanted Saints trade up to I think to eleven to
Speaker 1: get him, and he had a couple of different skills
Speaker 1: that stood out. You know, he's a four three guy
Speaker 1: and that's Speed's great. To Isaiah's point, to me, maybe
Speaker 1: the best part about his game is his route running
Speaker 1: and he can step right in and be a dependable
Speaker 1: guy where the quarterback knows exactly where he's gonna be.
Speaker 1: And that's what Amari brought more than anything here. I
Speaker 1: think they got to find a guy who can do that,
Speaker 1: just come in as a rookie and be very, very
Speaker 1: dependable for Dak Press guy Cedric Wilson did that too.
Speaker 1: By the way, Cedric Wilson was as friendly quarterback, friendly
Speaker 1: or receiver, especially a guy you pick in the sixth
Speaker 1: round as anybody they've had in a long time. Would
Speaker 1: you take ad that hurts me? That hurt me, hurt me.
Speaker 1: I was so angry. That was my pet cat, dude.
Speaker 1: I was angry. I didn't want to see him go.
Speaker 1: I said when he got on the roster, Ross said
Speaker 1: he's gonna be He's gonna be a key contributor, special team,
Speaker 1: special teams, and a dependable receiver. He just didn't get
Speaker 1: to get the you know, the pub and then they
Speaker 1: freaking let him walk. I was not a house. Was
Speaker 1: like when Cedric was gone, I was like, this is time,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be my guy. Come on, we got
Speaker 1: another one and bye, go ahead. Would you take would
Speaker 1: you take John Metchi from Alabama knowing that he's had
Speaker 1: a torn ACL in the SEC Championship game, He's might
Speaker 1: miss some time, and you have Michael Gallup. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: take him. No, we don't. You don't need two acls
Speaker 1: on the team. I'm just no disrespect. I'm a guy
Speaker 1: who's had a ton of injuries. But that's not you
Speaker 1: don't want to roll roll the dice, you know, saying
Speaker 1: with with double snake eyes, would you have done it
Speaker 1: with Jamison Williams. Nope, you wouldn't have done that now here.
Speaker 1: Okay about you, Rob, What do you think they're gonna
Speaker 1: go today today? I would say receiver. You know, it
Speaker 1: depends on what falls to them or you know, maybe
Speaker 1: they get aggressive. I don't know, but but receiver and
Speaker 1: tight ends a good one. I might say edge rusher too,
Speaker 1: because you can't wait if you want to add there,
Speaker 1: you can't wait too long, you know, to find a
Speaker 1: guy who can come in and make an impact for you.
Speaker 1: So I'd say, you know those two or three spots
Speaker 1: and the Mechi questions is good? Interesting Nick, because I'm
Speaker 1: with Isaiah and that they need a healthy guy to
Speaker 1: come in because you don't know how much time Michael
Speaker 1: gotp's gonna miss right off the bat. But they have
Speaker 1: a history here of second second treat the second round,
Speaker 1: as we can hedge a little bit here and Bruce Carter,
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith Smith. Some of it's injury, some of it
Speaker 1: is you know, Randy Gregory dropped out of the first
Speaker 1: round because of off the field stuff and they gambled there,
Speaker 1: and you know so that they that's how they'll treat
Speaker 1: the second round at times, you know, Kelvin Joseph last year, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think you made a great point the
Speaker 1: other day that that of why you know, it's also
Speaker 1: dangerous too. You do that when you're when you're covering
Speaker 1: your basis in freecy. But they don't do that. They're
Speaker 1: putting a lot of their eggs in the basket of
Speaker 1: this draft able through the draft. That that being said,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can be risky here in
Speaker 1: the second round. You were risky last year in the
Speaker 1: second round. And I don't know if that that player
Speaker 1: is going to play for you anymore. No one knows
Speaker 1: that right now. So I'm just saying this. I think
Speaker 1: if there is such a thing as a safe second
Speaker 1: round pick, I would do it and usually it's the
Speaker 1: offensive line. Usually in second round. Yeah, yeah, take another guard. No, well, honestly,
Speaker 1: they do have to take another guard at some point
Speaker 1: because if this is the left tackle the future, Tyler Smith, well,
Speaker 1: then who's gonna play left guard? So I'm not saying
Speaker 1: to get him in the second round, but if there's
Speaker 1: one in the fourth, I wouldn't be surprised. Do you
Speaker 1: think there's a scenario where they trade up today, if
Speaker 1: to get a guy since they have so many Day
Speaker 1: three picks, packaging something up and going up and getting
Speaker 1: somebody that's a Nakobe Dean or somebody, it doesn't wipe
Speaker 1: you out for the third round. I'd consider it. They've
Speaker 1: done it before. Four they traded last time. Maybe they
Speaker 1: did it was Tank you know in twenty fourteen. Would
Speaker 1: you go four and of five with the two that
Speaker 1: you have four and to five to go up? Would
Speaker 1: that even get you up? No? I don't know. If
Speaker 1: it's not getting your not to get into Kobe Dean, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, but hope back you still you
Speaker 1: still have three fifth rounders left, which typically fifth round
Speaker 1: you know, it's throwing darts and they haven't had a
Speaker 1: good I've mentioned our show, since Orlando was Secandrick was
Speaker 1: the last guy that really became a starter there. But
Speaker 1: they feel like the real depth of the draft is
Speaker 1: three through five because of the super seniors, because they
Speaker 1: probably have guys that would have been graded much higher
Speaker 1: in a previous year that are maybe pushed down a
Speaker 1: little bit. But yeah, I wouldn't discount dipping in there
Speaker 1: and trying to you have draft capital move around if
Speaker 1: you want to. Yeah, yeah, alright, looks like one more
Speaker 1: at least one more call before we get out of here. Chris,
Speaker 1: who we got? We got Jim in Pasadena? Jim, How
Speaker 1: are you fine? Guys? How are you good? Good? Good?
Speaker 1: So I looked at tape Tyler Smith. I think he's good.
Speaker 1: I think he's a maaller and dominant guy. I actually
Speaker 1: think he's better than Linderbaum. I looked at him against Michigan,
Speaker 1: and I think Tyler is a great draft. Obviously, he's
Speaker 1: got to be coached up. But my question to you
Speaker 1: is is there a tight end in the draft that
Speaker 1: can give us a huddle like New England's Hernandez Grunk.
Speaker 1: So that's my question. And if there is a tight
Speaker 1: end that can give us that do you trade up
Speaker 1: for it? Good question? Are you looking at some guys?
Speaker 1: I think page fifty one of our draft magazine is
Speaker 1: going to have some interesting names today. I think four
Speaker 1: guys that they like M K Trey McBride, which might
Speaker 1: be a second rounder, dull Rich from UCLA which is
Speaker 1: also I think a second rounder, and then maybe Ruckert
Speaker 1: and Otton in the third. Any of those guys come
Speaker 1: in for thirty visits, I'm not which apparently that apparently
Speaker 1: that doesn't What does that mean? It doesn't really matter
Speaker 1: this year, because neither did uh Tyler Smith did he know?
Speaker 1: But I well, what I like about all three four
Speaker 1: of these guys that I'm looking at, they're almost identical
Speaker 1: in their in Their size is six four, six to five,
Speaker 1: all around two forty five. And I would think those
Speaker 1: guys can can be capable blockers. That's the big one
Speaker 1: right there. Can they help there? Because you know Dalton's
Speaker 1: gonna help is He's gonna be a top option in
Speaker 1: the passing game. Yeah, So I think I think tight
Speaker 1: end's gonna happen here, maybe not in the second round,
Speaker 1: but but maybe in the third. I think that happens today,
Speaker 1: and I think they want to get a receiver, So
Speaker 1: stay offense and go tackle. I mean, go receiver and
Speaker 1: tight end. That's my prediction for today, all right, anything,
Speaker 1: I don't mean to answer his question. I don't see
Speaker 1: anybody in this draft being able to grab somebody that's
Speaker 1: gonna pair up with what you already have at the
Speaker 1: tight end position that's gonna make a combination like Hernandez
Speaker 1: and in Grunk. So let's go ahead and put that
Speaker 1: to rest. But in terms of being able to go
Speaker 1: grab somebody that can help block, you know, I've had
Speaker 1: some conversations with Linda Welles, and I think that he's
Speaker 1: pretty confident with who he has in the room in
Speaker 1: terms of their ability to block um. But you know,
Speaker 1: to that point, they still might add somebody. You know,
Speaker 1: obviously I'm always gonna go through you dub people, so
Speaker 1: odd somebody I wouldn't be mad about. But it's like,
Speaker 1: what do you what do you need? You know, like
Speaker 1: I'm always looking at like necessities, whether it's sexy or not.
Speaker 1: What are the absolute necessities for this offense or for
Speaker 1: this and for this team. And I think that you
Speaker 1: still need a big man upfront because we haven't resigned
Speaker 1: any we didn't we didn't sign a big man. What's
Speaker 1: up urban Urban? You didn't sign an urban. So you
Speaker 1: still need a big you know, a big nasty say,
Speaker 1: you still need him. I don't know if they's if there,
Speaker 1: if there's in this draft, right, but you still need
Speaker 1: somebody to have that type of presence. Um. And I
Speaker 1: still think that you need you do need a receiver. Um.
Speaker 1: And then I think you still need DBS. Man. I
Speaker 1: still think that you need DBS. You're in a league
Speaker 1: that is lining up. There's teams that are lining up
Speaker 1: with four one or number two receivers, and you got
Speaker 1: to find a way to stop him. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think that you can have enough you obviously we
Speaker 1: have Digs out there. He's doing his thing, and then
Speaker 1: you have a couple whether you know, a Brown and
Speaker 1: couple other guys. But you don't to your point, you
Speaker 1: don't know if Joe still is going to be out there.
Speaker 1: There's a high probability he probably won't you know, um
Speaker 1: some time. Yeah, so you need to find somebody else
Speaker 1: that can step in and contribute at that position as well.
Speaker 1: Any party word rob before we get out of here. No,
Speaker 1: that's corner, right, that's that's another one like and Jerry
Speaker 1: was asked, yeah, tuesday, you know, would that affect your
Speaker 1: draft preparation? He said no, No, they don't tip their
Speaker 1: hand on much of anything at the pre draft press conference.
Speaker 1: But that'd be interesting to see if. I mean, you
Speaker 1: could say they don't have must but there's a lot
Speaker 1: of positions that you could look at and if they
Speaker 1: could go with their this route on second, third round
Speaker 1: and say oh yeah, yeah that could work. That could work.
Speaker 1: I would say receiver stands out still to me though,
Speaker 1: the most because because it gallops status. Even if he's
Speaker 1: back early September or training camp, how much you know
Speaker 1: he's gonna be probably limited. So they need to address
Speaker 1: more of that position. Depth two is there, I tell
Speaker 1: you what. Let's go around the horn before we get
Speaker 1: out of here. Last question for everybody. Start with you, Rob.
Speaker 1: Is there a position today that they would they could
Speaker 1: draft that you would be like, upset? Is there a
Speaker 1: position they do not need to address today? Quarterback and
Speaker 1: kicker and uh? Running back? Yeah? Running back? You know
Speaker 1: some of the what would be upset? Huh? Not upset
Speaker 1: would be I would be puzzled. I would you know
Speaker 1: they got the A and M running back. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be mad about it. I would be fine
Speaker 1: with with mister Spiller. I love that. But but I
Speaker 1: mean they're not those are not muss those are not
Speaker 1: It's an obviously quarterback, come on, you know, but that's
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. But everything else is in play, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, like as asked said, a d line, whether
Speaker 1: it's a guy in the middle or a pass rusher
Speaker 1: on the edge. Linebacker, you could tell walk me into
Speaker 1: safety corner. I mean really, they could go in a
Speaker 1: lot of directions to help out dan Quinn, no doubt.
Speaker 1: Yeah about you, Gaiah, anything anything you would not be
Speaker 1: on board with position wise today, tight end, tight end,
Speaker 1: I'd be I'd be kind of angry about that. Running back,
Speaker 1: I think that would be It's not a necessity. I
Speaker 1: think those are two positions that don't need to be
Speaker 1: tended to right now based upon some of the decisions
Speaker 1: and people that you have in place. Um quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's not it's not happening alas not even
Speaker 1: in play. Yeah about you, nick Na, I mean the
Speaker 1: same with what they're saying. I mean, this team needs
Speaker 1: some help in a lot of areas. I mean and
Speaker 1: so and then that's what that's what's going on with
Speaker 1: the league now. I mean, like second contracts are I mean,
Speaker 1: there's so much turnover now, so it is, it is
Speaker 1: a lot of I mean even though you think, well
Speaker 1: we're set now, I mean look at like running back,
Speaker 1: like we're set now. Well next year, I mean much
Speaker 1: none of these running backs could be on the roster
Speaker 1: next year. Same tight end, Same with tight end. I mean,
Speaker 1: see what happens with Schultz's deal if he gets a
Speaker 1: deal corner. I mean, you know, Brown and Jordan Lewis
Speaker 1: may not be here, Joseph may not. I mean so
Speaker 1: like so a position you think look solid may not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that and that's something that they are thinking of.
Speaker 1: You know, like a lot of fans, and there's some
Speaker 1: educated fans out there for sure, but sometimes they do
Speaker 1: get in Madden mode where they think that's all about
Speaker 1: this year and this year only, and they don't draft
Speaker 1: that way. They don't they don't make decisions that way. Yeah, well, fellas,
Speaker 1: this was fun, fun. Thanks for having me, Nick Eatman,
Speaker 1: Isaiah stand bad Us, Rob Phillips, I'm Shannon Gross, Chris Beam,
Speaker 1: thanks for pulling all the buttons and hanging up on folks,
Speaker 1: but making it sound good anyway. William, thanks for having
Speaker 1: the live streams up so early in the morning after
Speaker 1: you were up here all night. We appreciate that. Day
Speaker 1: two of the draft and just uh a few hour
Speaker 1: else what six hours from now, so we'll see what happens,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure we'll have another one of these tomorrow.
Speaker 1: You do another one of these tomorrow, Dick, No, probably
Speaker 1: not no, because we started early day. So yeah, this
Speaker 1: tomorrow will be the draft. Okay, Well, we hope you
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