WEBVTT - Maria Tallchief & Mozart

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look at you be, all dressed up for today's show. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>pardon me, Elliott, but where are my rose pedals and

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<v Speaker 1>where is my root beer float? I sent specific instructions

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<v Speaker 1>on what was to be waiting for me when I

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<v Speaker 1>got here, and I am disappointed. You're fired. Why are

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<v Speaker 1>you behaving like this? Be well, I wanted to behave

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<v Speaker 1>like one of our historical figures. Mozart was writing music

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<v Speaker 1>by the time he was five, so that ship is sailed.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm being like our other figure, Maria tall chief,

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<v Speaker 1>by being a Prima Donna and acting very extra B

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<v Speaker 1>Maria wasn't a Prima Donna, which is like a diva,

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<v Speaker 1>she was a Prima Ballerina, which is the most important

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<v Speaker 1>member of a ballet company. Maria and Mozart were both

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<v Speaker 1>hard working artists, not demanding meanie's. Okay, point taken. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>stop acting like a jerk as long as I get

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<v Speaker 1>to keep wearing my two TU. How will that be

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<v Speaker 1>different from any other show we do, because you're also

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a two Tu? To Touche Eric, please play the

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<v Speaker 1>theme song food. You know about the greats from this store.

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<v Speaker 1>The game is on. To get some energy and buckle

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<v Speaker 1>up your brain, because it's time to play the wost podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's time to play books. Who Live from tongue

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<v Speaker 1>the land, or so called, so call Los Angeles. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to who was, the history quiz show that gives contestants

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<v Speaker 1>the chance to win mega prizes and podcast glory. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>your announcer, B and, in honor of all the classical

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<v Speaker 1>music in today's episode, I'm gonna be sharp. And here's

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<v Speaker 1>your host, the man who inspired the Oxford Comma. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Elliott Kaylin. Thank you, be and welcome everyone to the

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<v Speaker 1>WHO was podcast. This show is like jeopardy, only with

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<v Speaker 1>surprise guests, silly games and better gift banks. Our contestants

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<v Speaker 1>were sent who was books about two great figures from history.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're here to show off their knowledge in the

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<v Speaker 1>hope sub winning fantastic prizes, prizes. Today we're staying classical

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<v Speaker 1>when we discussed Prima Ballerina Maria tall chief and wonder

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<v Speaker 1>kid composer Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. But before we learn all

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<v Speaker 1>about them, let's learn all about our contestants today. Alright.

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<v Speaker 1>First up we have Grayson. Grayson, please introduce yourself. Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>my name is Grayson one thing you should know about

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<v Speaker 1>me is that I can nave all the U S

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<v Speaker 1>presidents oral flies and say flies while I was five.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Wow. So Elliott has a lot of opinions about presidents. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm going to ask you, Grayson, who is your

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<v Speaker 1>favorite president? My favorite presents probably Abraham Lincoln. Great President. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the best one. There's no there's no better ones

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<v Speaker 1>than that. All right, and we also have on the

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<v Speaker 1>show today Owen Owen, please introduce yourself. Hi, my name

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<v Speaker 1>is Owen and Um, I love to play piano, just

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<v Speaker 1>like Mozart. Oh my goodness. What's your favorite kind of

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<v Speaker 1>music to play on the piano? Um, the classical, classical. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And do you have a favorite composer within that? I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You like them all. What a classical answer? m M.

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<v Speaker 1>probably like a probably billy, Joel. I'M gonna guess it's

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<v Speaker 1>call your favorite classical composer on the piano. No, no, shaking, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't shaking heads. No, okay, I understand. Well, so

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot. There's a lot that our contestants have

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<v Speaker 1>in common with our subjects today. That's amazing. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>both so much for being here I can't wait for

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<v Speaker 1>this game and thank you to Eric, our musician, for

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<v Speaker 1>providing that lovely live meet the contestants music. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>who is. Now let's find out who was. Maria TAL

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<v Speaker 1>chief with four fast facts. Maria Tul chief lived from to.

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<v Speaker 1>Maria was America's first Prima Ballerina. Maria's father was part

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<v Speaker 1>of the O sage nation and she grew up on

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<v Speaker 1>the o sage reservation in Oklahoma. A statue of her

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<v Speaker 1>and four other native American ballerinas, known as five moons,

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<v Speaker 1>stands on Ancestral Muskogee land in Oklahoma prospects. Alright, so,

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<v Speaker 1>graceon and Owen, we've talked a little bit about music,

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<v Speaker 1>because Owen U is a piano player as well. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to ask you what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>about when you think about the ballet? Like, what is

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing that comes to your mind when I

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<v Speaker 1>say the Word Ballet? Owen, what do you think about?

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<v Speaker 1>I think about performance, acting, all the stage stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>just ballerina just comes to me like a huge performance

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<v Speaker 1>with like a bunch of dancers dancing like two twos.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever seen a ballet? No, okay, and what

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<v Speaker 1>about you? Grayson, have you ever seen a ballet before?

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<v Speaker 1>I have. I saw the first half of the cracker.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, now, why only the first half? Because the

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<v Speaker 1>place I was showing it was on only shows. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a tradition. They only show the up two when the

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<v Speaker 1>store of Clara shrinking and walking through the world trying

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<v Speaker 1>all the fun creatures there. I didn't mean the prints.

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<v Speaker 1>I see. And do they show you all the dances

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<v Speaker 1>from the different countries that represent different candies? Because a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the second half of the nutcracker is just

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<v Speaker 1>one dance after another. There's no story, it's just candy dances. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's just there's a bunch of there was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the scene before that was candies. So it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like it sounds like they played a fair amount of

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<v Speaker 1>the nutcracker. They danced it. I my family growing up.

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<v Speaker 1>We went to see the nutcracker at the New York

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<v Speaker 1>City ballet every year at holiday time and I grew

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<v Speaker 1>up really loving the ballet and I was always amazed

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<v Speaker 1>at how the ballet dancers seems so graceful and when

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<v Speaker 1>I tried it at home I would fall down a

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<v Speaker 1>lot and make a lot of noise and they just

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to not do that, so I always wondered how

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<v Speaker 1>they did it. Yeah, but Elliott Um falling down a

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<v Speaker 1>lot and making a lot of noise. That's like modern

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<v Speaker 1>dance and that's the kind of thing. Yeah, so there

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<v Speaker 1>is a place. There is a place for all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of dancers. Oh, that's fantastic. Well, finally I can live

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<v Speaker 1>my dream of being a dancer falls down a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>makes a lot of noise. That's the most inspiring episode

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<v Speaker 1>of who was podcast? Yet I love it. Don't come

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<v Speaker 1>for me, modern dancers. I know you're listening. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for those, for those candid ballet opinions. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>time to move on to our first game. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>ballet themed game. Because this is Maria Tal chief. It's

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<v Speaker 1>called Swan fake. In this game, you will each have

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seconds to get through as many true or false

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<v Speaker 1>statements about Maria Tal chief as possible. If the statement

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<v Speaker 1>B says about Maria's life is true, say firebird, after

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<v Speaker 1>Maria's starmaking role in the ballet of the firebird. If

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<v Speaker 1>it's fake, say Swan fake. Maria also danced in Swanley.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't know the answer, say pass which is

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<v Speaker 1>a dance move, and then we'll move on. So if

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<v Speaker 1>it's true, say firebird. If it's fake, say Swan, fake,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you don't know and you just want to

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<v Speaker 1>go the next one, say pass a. h okay, Elliott

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<v Speaker 1>is going to time and producer Jane will keep score,

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<v Speaker 1>and each answer you get correct is worth one point,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is our first game. Okay, Grayson, Europe first.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you ready? Okay, alright, Elliott, get that time. Are

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<v Speaker 1>Ready and let us know when to go. Okay, getting

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<v Speaker 1>the time already, and on your mark, get set dance.

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<v Speaker 1>Maria was named Princess of two worlds by the O

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<v Speaker 1>s age nation. Sure, Maria was named woman of the

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<v Speaker 1>Year in N Swan. Fake Maria was the choreographer Balanchine's goose. Swan. Fake.

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<v Speaker 1>Maria famously at once asked dance legend Fredis stare. So

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<v Speaker 1>you think you can dance? And that's thirty seconds. Nice job.

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<v Speaker 1>You got through a lot of statements there. Okay, Owen,

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<v Speaker 1>now it's your turn. I'm going to reset the timer. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and remember, Owen, it's now it's your turn. On Your Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>get set dance. Maria had a younger sister, Marjorie, who

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<v Speaker 1>was also a dancer. Firebird Maria's father suffered from alcoholism.

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<v Speaker 1>firebird Maria was also a talented musician. Fire Maria was

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<v Speaker 1>the inspiration for the dream ballet in the musical Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 1>Sat Fake Maria was a dancer in one of Judy

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<v Speaker 1>Garland's movies. Um, firebird Maria was instrumental in establishing the

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<v Speaker 1>New York City Ballet. And that's thirty seconds a right.

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<v Speaker 1>Both of you were blazing through those answers, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the end of Swan fake. Thank you both so much

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<v Speaker 1>for playing an incredible round. We'll have producer Jayne itally

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<v Speaker 1>up the scores right after this short break. Erica, please

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<v Speaker 1>play us some firebird music that birds on fire. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to the WHO was podcast, where today we're finding

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<v Speaker 1>out who was Maria Tal Cheese and who was Mozart.

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<v Speaker 1>And now back to your host, Elliott Kalin. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>be we just got through an exciting game between Grayson

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<v Speaker 1>and Owen. Now let's dance over to producer Jane to

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<v Speaker 1>find out the scores. Jane, Please, what are the scores?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, Grayson got two points and then Owen sped

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<v Speaker 1>ahead with five. Fantastic playing on both of you and

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<v Speaker 1>noticed that I didn't make a musical pun off of

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<v Speaker 1>the word scores. I think I deserved some credit for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Elliot, for not doing that. And let's keep

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<v Speaker 1>the show going as we find out who was Mozart

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<v Speaker 1>with four fast facts. Facts. Mozart was born in seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty six and died in in Austria. Mozart started composing

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<v Speaker 1>music at the age of five. He wrote over six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred pieces of music. Mozart had a musical mind and

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<v Speaker 1>could retain pieces of music even after hearing them only once.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we were saying earlier. So, Grayson, you have memorized, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>all of the presidents of the US, and it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like you and Mozart sort of have that in common,

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<v Speaker 1>like having this like great um sort of memory. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But what comes to your mind when we say like

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<v Speaker 1>Mozart or classical music? What do you what? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think of when we say that? Grayson, I think

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<v Speaker 1>of this songs, Rondo, Turkey Piano Chart in twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that. And what's the what's the what's

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<v Speaker 1>the is there a particular classical song that you like,

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<v Speaker 1>even not just to play but to listen to? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really like to classical music. So what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of music do you like to listen to? You like

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<v Speaker 1>to play classical but you like to listen to other music. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of like country pop, like sort of stop.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, who, who are your top artists? What about

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<v Speaker 1>the most country pop person I've ever heard of, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a Taylor Swift? Are you a swift? Eh? Yes, okay, Great.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to mention there's two classical songs. There's one

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<v Speaker 1>classic Song I listened to whenever I need to get

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<v Speaker 1>really energized, and there's one classical song I listened to

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<v Speaker 1>when I need to calm down. And the classical song

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<v Speaker 1>I like, I listened to when I need to energize,

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<v Speaker 1>is the twelve overture. You know it. It's one that

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<v Speaker 1>goes that boom, that boom boom. There's real cannons in

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<v Speaker 1>the song. It's bonkers. And then the song I need

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to when I calm down is I listened

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<v Speaker 1>to Venus by Gustav Holst, from the planet's symphony, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a very calm song and I like to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to it at the end of the day when it's

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<v Speaker 1>time for me to go to bed. and Venus is

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<v Speaker 1>the gause of love, and soothe thinks exactly. So the

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<v Speaker 1>songs makes sense. Jupiter is like big, it's like bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bomb, bump, bump, bomb,

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<v Speaker 1>and Neptune, I don't know how that was. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think the Nepton one is like under the sea. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>we got keep moving because they're getting into copyright issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's get to know more about Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.

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<v Speaker 1>In this next game it's called Hashtag history, Hashtag, Hashtag, history, Hashtag, Hashtag.

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<v Speaker 1>In this game we will read to a Hashtag Mozart

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<v Speaker 1>would have used during his life if there were social

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<v Speaker 1>media at the time, and you will tell us what's

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<v Speaker 1>that Hashtag all about? What's that tweet all about? And

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<v Speaker 1>because this is our second game, each question is worth

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<v Speaker 1>two points. So, Owen, this first question is for you.

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<v Speaker 1>You've heard of wordle but growing up, my family and

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<v Speaker 1>I called my sister by this nickname. Hashtag, sister, sister, Hashtag.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all relative. What was Mozart's sister's nickname? Was it

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<v Speaker 1>a Naneral or be strue soul. I'm so sorry. The

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<v Speaker 1>anser was a Nanaal Maria, Anna, Mozart's older sister, was

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<v Speaker 1>also a musician. It's okay, there's lots more points opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>coming up. She performed with Mozart when they were very young.

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<v Speaker 1>She helped him notate his earliest symphonies and she composed

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<v Speaker 1>her own music. But NANARAL was expected to get married

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<v Speaker 1>and raised children, not pursue a career of her own.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighteenth Century, the better eighteenth century. Next question is for Grayson.

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<v Speaker 1>Take it away. Be met someone today. She's the queen

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<v Speaker 1>of my heart. Hashtag woman crushed Wednesday. Hashtag. Let them

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<v Speaker 1>eat wedding cake, Maria, they did. Let me, let me

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<v Speaker 1>do the options. Yes, it was about raising you got it.

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<v Speaker 1>The six year old Mozart was performing for the Queen

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<v Speaker 1>of Hungary. A six year old Marie Antoinette helped him

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<v Speaker 1>after he fell and he proclaimed he would marry her.

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<v Speaker 1>This was hilarious to everyone there because at six she

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<v Speaker 1>was already engaged to the future King of France, lose

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<v Speaker 1>the sixteenth, and destined to be the next queen of France.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, typical six year old stuff. Come on, eighteenth

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<v Speaker 1>century next question. Let's go back to Owen. Records haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been invented yet, but my father insists I go after

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<v Speaker 1>those royalties. Hashtag will never be royals. Hashtag yes, Queen.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this about a Mozart trying to be employed as

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<v Speaker 1>a concert master in the court of a King or Prince?

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<v Speaker 1>or Be Mozart spending too much money on wigs and clothing?

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. The answer is a an artist like Mozart

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<v Speaker 1>to make a living at that time he needed the

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<v Speaker 1>help of wealthy patrons and the aristocracy. His father harked

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<v Speaker 1>on the importance of this in his many letters to Mozart.

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<v Speaker 1>It also brings up the idea of class distinction in

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<v Speaker 1>the white male exclusivity associated with classical music. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>topic we'd love one of our listeners to do a

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<v Speaker 1>ten part podcast about. I would love to listen to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Please put it out there. And this last question is

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<v Speaker 1>for Grayson. You're invited to the wedding. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>wedding singers, but no bocae Toss Hashtag wedding craft shirts.

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<v Speaker 1>HASHTAG romantic overtures. Is this tweet referring to a Mozart's

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<v Speaker 1>marriage to his wife Costanza or be his hit opera,

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<v Speaker 1>the marriage of Figaro. There is a Figaro. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the marriage of figure it's a huge success for

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<v Speaker 1>Mozart helped him establish his name as a musician. He

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<v Speaker 1>went on to write three other beloved operas before his

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<v Speaker 1>death at just thirty five. You know, the opening of

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<v Speaker 1>Marrija Figro is very famous. It goes like this. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my goodness, Bravo, Bravo, Elliott, you're a tenor. Wow, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but that performance was more of a twelve, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>being honest. Okay, I like. I like the magic flu.

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<v Speaker 1>Al Baldo's essay. The magic flu was also a beautiful opera.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing job to both of our contestants. You did great

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<v Speaker 1>at Hashtag history, history, and now let's go to producer

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<v Speaker 1>chain with the musical scores. That's it, I did it.

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<v Speaker 1>I made a musical score joke. I couldn't resist. I'm sorry. Wow. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Owen has seven, but Grayson is sliding right up behind

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<v Speaker 1>the six points. This game is so close. Thank you, Jane.

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<v Speaker 1>And now, before we move on to our final game,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a very special guest. It's America's own Prima

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<v Speaker 1>Bell Rena, herself Maria Tulchief. Hello, I'm thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>having me. Of course, Maria joined us via the WHO

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<v Speaker 1>was that? That's right, I took the liberty of choreographing

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<v Speaker 1>a dance to the jingle. May I perform it? That

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<v Speaker 1>would be incredible. A five, six, seven, twelve. Who was

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<v Speaker 1>wandering in the first Oh wow, that was beautiful. Elliott,

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<v Speaker 1>are you crying a little bit? I have that effect

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<v Speaker 1>on people. I heard the former leader of the USSR,

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<v Speaker 1>Chrius Cheff, wept when he watched me perform in the

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<v Speaker 1>Soviet Union in the nineteen fifties. We have no way

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<v Speaker 1>to verify, but that tracks. Maria, love brings you here today.

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<v Speaker 1>You all have so much fun playing games on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I brought a game of my own to share. It's

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<v Speaker 1>called rounds of applause. Sounds Fun. Yes, B was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you about it so you could prepare. Wait beat.

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<v Speaker 1>What cool, Elliott. It'll be fun. I love dancing and

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<v Speaker 1>I love the applause that tame with it. I became

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<v Speaker 1>something of an applause expert and can recognize where applause

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<v Speaker 1>is from when I hear it. So in this game,

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<v Speaker 1>B will play applause and Elliott and I will try

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<v Speaker 1>to name what it's from. Nobody, nobody doesn't not want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear this game. Let's go. Maria's up first. Here

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<v Speaker 1>is your round of applause. That's a golf clack. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's from the seventy masters, where Jack Nicklaus won

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<v Speaker 1>his thirteenth major title. Correct, Elliott. This next round is

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<v Speaker 1>for you. This feels unfair. Uh, is that from like

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<v Speaker 1>the musical wicked? Wrong, I'm going to steal. That's when

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<v Speaker 1>I danced the sugar pump ferry from the nutcracker at

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<v Speaker 1>the Bullshoy theater in nineteen sixty. I was the first

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<v Speaker 1>American to dance at the Bullshoy, which is Russia's most

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<v Speaker 1>prestigious theater. Correct, Maria to this next round of applause

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<v Speaker 1>is for you. That's from Elliott's high school play. You

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<v Speaker 1>can detect just a hint of resentment from the audience

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<v Speaker 1>for having to pretend he did a good job as

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<v Speaker 1>Danny Zuko in Greece. I did do a good job, Maria,

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<v Speaker 1>is correct. My Mom said I did a good job. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>last round of applause is for Elliott. Uh. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>from the musical wicked? Nope, Maria, for this deal. Dancers

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<v Speaker 1>will often perform short scenes from ballets at dance shows.

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<v Speaker 1>That applause was from when I danced pizzicato from the

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<v Speaker 1>ballet is Sylvia at Jacob's pill dance theater. Correct. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the end of round of applause and now to

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<v Speaker 1>producer Jane with the scores. What Jane? You knew about

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<v Speaker 1>this too. That's right, Elliott in the biggest victory we've

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen on who was. It's Maria with four points,

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<v Speaker 1>Elliott with zero. Oh my, that was marvelous. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for having me and things again. who was up? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'M gonna go try and recover from that defeat and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be back with the final game after this short break. Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>can you please play us some surprise me with a game.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't ready for music. Jum Sally, who was asked

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<v Speaker 1>same one. Marie Curie. You may remember me from winning

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<v Speaker 1>multiple Nobel Prizes, or perhaps from my episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>WHO worst podcast where I played myself. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>take a moment to read one of my favorite reviews

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<v Speaker 1>about the WHO was podcast. This is from Shaken Bay

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<v Speaker 1>and it reads loved this. Me and my little sister

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<v Speaker 1>love this show more, please. Our faith is Arie Toman.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to hear your review right on the air,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure to subscribe, like and review to the worst

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<v Speaker 1>podcast in the I heart radio up or wherever you

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<v Speaker 1>get your podcasts. REVOIR, or should I stay Abbia? We're

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<v Speaker 1>back on the WHO was podcast. When we last left,

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<v Speaker 1>Brason had six points and Owen had seven points. And

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<v Speaker 1>now back to your host, Elliott Daylen. Thank you me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a close game. Let's see what happened in this,

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<v Speaker 1>our last game. It's called converge of greatness. What beautiful music.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Mozart wrote that. No, was Eric. In this

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<v Speaker 1>multiple choice game we'll explore how the lives of Maria

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<v Speaker 1>Tal chief and Mozart connect, overlap or converge. And because

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<v Speaker 1>we're in the third round, each question is worth three points. Ready,

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<v Speaker 1>the first question goes to Grayson B. Take it away.

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<v Speaker 1>Both Maria Tal Chief and Mozart had important relationships with artists.

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<v Speaker 1>Maria and the choreographer George Balanchine were life and artistic

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<v Speaker 1>partners and created the New York City Ballet. Mozart was

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<v Speaker 1>friendly with this classical composer. Was it a Johann Sebastian Bach? B,

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph Hyden or C A DUA LIPA? That's right, the

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<v Speaker 1>answer is be. The composer Joseph Hayden was a mentor

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<v Speaker 1>and friend to young most art, and Mozart dedicated six

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<v Speaker 1>quartets to him. You know, my favorite hide and Quartet

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<v Speaker 1>is the hide and go seek. Yes, we did it,

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<v Speaker 1>we did it. We made a hide and joke. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The next question is for Owen. Mozart and Maria both

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<v Speaker 1>had close calls with their health at different points in

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<v Speaker 1>their lives. While Mozart was able to recover from smallpox,

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<v Speaker 1>Maria almost missed her big debut due to this illness.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a infected tonsils, b Shin splints or see

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<v Speaker 1>dance fever? Hey, that's right, the answer is A. Maria

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<v Speaker 1>almost missed her debut in the firebird because she was

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<v Speaker 1>very sick. She had to have her tonsils removed and

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<v Speaker 1>had only two days rest before she took the stage

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<v Speaker 1>and brought down the house with her incredible tonsilness performance.

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<v Speaker 1>Next question Grayson. Maria's relationship with her father was complicated.

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<v Speaker 1>She says she idolized him in many ways, but his

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<v Speaker 1>alcoholism made him unreliable. Bol Mozart also had a difficult

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with his father Leopold, and much of their correspondence

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<v Speaker 1>focuses around this issue. A Leopold's wish that Mozart give

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<v Speaker 1>up music and get a real job, B leobold begging

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<v Speaker 1>Mozart to put him in an opera or see. Leopold

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<v Speaker 1>was upset with Mozart over the way he spent money.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I guess in it's money. That's right. The answer

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<v Speaker 1>is seeing. Leopold was very supportive of Mozart having a

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<v Speaker 1>career in music and taught him how to play instruments,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was him quote, not mad, but disappointed, unquote,

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<v Speaker 1>at the choices Mozart made with his money. Maybe Mozart

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<v Speaker 1>should have listen to his dad a little bit. At

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<v Speaker 1>the time of his death, he was very deep in debt.

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<v Speaker 1>And now it's time for the last question. This is

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<v Speaker 1>for Owen. Mozart wrote the fantasy like opera the magic flute,

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<v Speaker 1>where the hero of the story is given a magic

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<v Speaker 1>flute to help him on his quest. In the firebird

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<v Speaker 1>Maria danced the part of a fire a bird who

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<v Speaker 1>tells a young man she will help him if he

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<v Speaker 1>calls her using this magical object. Is it a a

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<v Speaker 1>messenger bird, be a super sick muscle car or see

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<v Speaker 1>a magic feather? Um, let's see the magic feather. The

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<v Speaker 1>answer yes, it's see a magic feather. The story of

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<v Speaker 1>the firebird is based on a Russian folk tale, but,

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<v Speaker 1>unlike many other operas at the time, the magic flute

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<v Speaker 1>was not based on a pretty existing story, but a

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<v Speaker 1>collaboration between Mozart and an Austrian theatrical troupe, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of cooks in dust kitchen, which may explain why the

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<v Speaker 1>story of magic flute is charmingly bonkers. And speaking of Bonkers,

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<v Speaker 1>can you believe that was the final game? Like all

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<v Speaker 1>great ballets and symphonies, our show must at last come

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<v Speaker 1>to an end, to a standing ovation. Oh thank you, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Sit down. Sit Down, you don't need to do well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a little bit. Okay, let's find sit down. But first,

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<v Speaker 1>while producer Jane Tally's our all scores, I'd love to

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<v Speaker 1>hear from our contestants. Uh Owen Grayson, is there something

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<v Speaker 1>that you found out about Maria Tal chief or Mozart

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<v Speaker 1>that really surprised you? Um, something that stuck out to

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<v Speaker 1>me about Murray Tal chief was her loved ones just

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<v Speaker 1>kept dying and then like ten years later, after her

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<v Speaker 1>divorced husband died, then she died herself. Yeah, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>sad how often people can achieve great things and yet

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<v Speaker 1>have such tragedy in their personal lives and they have

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<v Speaker 1>to push through it, I guess, and you know you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't dance out of sadness, although I guess it's

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<v Speaker 1>ballet you kind of can. I mean a lot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of ballets are about tragic subjects. Uh, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you know she brought that into her work. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>hate to spoilers for everyone listening. He hasn't Seen Swan Lake.

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<v Speaker 1>Things do not work out great for the Swan what.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Jane, I didn't want you to find out

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<v Speaker 1>this way. Grayson, was there anything that stuck out to

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<v Speaker 1>you particularly about Mozart, or Ria Tal Chief, something that

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<v Speaker 1>you'd like to talk about? Well, I was, Willie, interested

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<v Speaker 1>that the fact that, uh, for the anniversary of Navave

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<v Speaker 1>and they played the modes are for four Um for

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<v Speaker 1>twy four hours. Yeah, it's amazing how Mozart wrote that Song,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hundreds of years ago, but it's still it's

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<v Speaker 1>still so powerful that it still affects people and it

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<v Speaker 1>can still speak to us when things happen in modern times.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's the power of great art, is that

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<v Speaker 1>even if it's written in one time, it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>lives on forever and it still makes people laugh or cry,

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<v Speaker 1>or cry from laughter or dance or maybe sit down

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<v Speaker 1>and say that's interesting. Lots of different reactions, I guess. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in a word, timeless. Yes, timeless. That's a great one

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<v Speaker 1>word way to say what I was saying. With lots

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<v Speaker 1>of words be you've shown me up again. Well, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you both so much for sharing your thoughts with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are great. And now it's time for the big moment. Jane,

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<v Speaker 1>Please announced our winner. Well, it was a squeaker, isn't that?

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that what a Mozart's lesser known symphonies? Squeaker, the squeaker. Yes, squeaker.

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<v Speaker 1>Cohen had thirteen points and Grayson right behind them with twelve. Ohen,

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<v Speaker 1>you've won. What a close game. You've both played amazingly well. Congratulations, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and on your victory, and this one you have ten

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<v Speaker 1>seconds for shout out. Still for it. Who would you

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<v Speaker 1>like to thank today? Um, I would like to thank

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<v Speaker 1>my parents, for setting you up with this whole podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think of doing it, but they pushed me

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, so I'd like to thank them. That's

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<v Speaker 1>very nice. Thank you, parents for pushing your children. Our

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<v Speaker 1>winner and their library of choice will be receiving a

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<v Speaker 1>selection of who was books, and I'm going to give

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<v Speaker 1>a shout out to intern Zach, to Jane, to Eric

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<v Speaker 1>and be and a big thank you to both of

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<v Speaker 1>our contestants, who played an amazing game. Thank you at home.

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<v Speaker 1>So much for listening. Next week join us as we

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<v Speaker 1>find out about two more amazing people from history. Until then,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Elliott Amadeus Klin saying we are history. Thank you. Goodbye, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Great playing contestants. Yeah, got a question for any of

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<v Speaker 1>end up on the show. The WHO was podcast is

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<v Speaker 1>produced by radio point, I heart media and Penguin workshop

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<v Speaker 1>and is based on the best selling who h q

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<v Speaker 1>series published by Penguin, hosted by Elliott Caylin, with Co

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<v Speaker 1>host Megan O'Neill as B also starring Jane Baker as

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<v Speaker 1>Jane Eric Shackney as Eric and Monique Morrow, as Maria Talchi.

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<v Speaker 1>Executive Producers are Richard Gorson, Alex Boch, Elliott Calin, Megan O'Neil,

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<v Speaker 1>This episode was written by Megan O'Neil, Ellie Kylin and

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<v Speaker 1>Devin Coleman, produced by Bernie Kaminsky and Taylor Kowalski. Talent

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<v Speaker 1>producer is Jane Baker. Theme song and music composed and

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<v Speaker 1>performed by Eric Shackney, edited and mixed by Breematan and

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<v Speaker 1>Kate Moldenhauer. Did by Joanna Samuel's. Special thanks to Zach Timpson,

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<v Speaker 1>Charlotte Danda, Daniel Goodman and Michael Lewis. Howard who was

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<v Speaker 1>podcast was recorded at the I heart studios in Los Angeles, California.

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<v Speaker 1>Sound services provided by a great city posts the WHO

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