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Speaker 1: Thanks Kevin, Happy Super Tuesday. Are you are you doing anything,

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Speaker 1: and Buddha. Judge. He wasn't so keen on doing it.

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Speaker 1: He did it because he had to do it. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of bad history between Warren and Biden. We

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Speaker 1: But Warren was just reaming Biden in the nineties and

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Speaker 1: And when Warren was in the Obama administration, Warren and

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Speaker 1: Biden clashed constantly over the formation of the CFPB and

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Speaker 1: other things. And you know, Warren, I think ses Biden

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Speaker 1: think Klobuchar and Biden are much more simpatico on a

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Speaker 1: lot of I hear you on that, and I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: out loud again maybe I should I want to be.

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Speaker 1: But I also think if you're Senator Elizabeth Warren and

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Speaker 1: you and you believe that Biden is likely to be

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Speaker 1: the nominee, you have leverage right now. Well, but and

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Speaker 1: and they have done They've done this dance, and so

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Speaker 1: CFPB for an example. And I'm wondering if Warren World

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Speaker 1: is thinking she could be more of a force in

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Speaker 1: the party if she backs Biden versus backing Sanders. Do

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm trying to get out? And I

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Speaker 1: would be shocked if she backed Sanders. I would be

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Speaker 1: you know, like I would be I would be. I

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Speaker 1: would be very surprised if she said I'm getting behind

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Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders. Yeah, And I think that's really an interesting

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Speaker 1: even though they're aligned. I think that's also interesting. And

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Speaker 1: when you get to Sanders, let's let's say, for instance,

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Speaker 1: who would be his running mate? Who? Well, it's interesting

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Speaker 1: San Francisco Chronicle yesterday and he said, I will only

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Speaker 1: pick as my running mate someone who's all in on

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Speaker 1: Medicare for all, which you know, you can always change that,

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Speaker 1: you can always back off. But I think what Sanders

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Speaker 1: You know that he's gonna kind of go all in

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Speaker 1: work together, and Paul, you know how politics is, he

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Speaker 1: could always he could always be kind of pressured to

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Speaker 1: but Sanders, Julian Castro, I mean, if it came to that,

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Speaker 1: if it came to a Sanders, if your partie Sanders,

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Speaker 1: you have to have objectively, he's gonna have the same

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Speaker 1: to the far left. He Sanders has to say he

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Speaker 1: he didn't pick a someone, you know, just like Trump

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Speaker 1: picked a Pence type of person. I mean Pence, I mean,

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Speaker 1: but pick that sort of straight out of central casting.

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Speaker 1: As he always said, you would expect that do that,

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Speaker 1: but hey, expect you. I'd expected speaking at Trump, here's

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Speaker 1: President Trump talking about Super Tuesday. Here it is. Listen.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a very interesting evening of

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Speaker 1: write and I will be watching. Who would I like

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Speaker 1: to win? Anybody? I'll take anybody I have to. That's

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Speaker 1: the way it's gonna work. That's so Trump, the reality

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Speaker 1: show President. It's going to be an interesting night in television, folks.

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Speaker 1: Super Tuesday. Wow, that's that's that he I think Trump,

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Speaker 1: you know, for him. I do think that the Trump

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Speaker 1: folks are worried about Biden's resurgence. Uh and you're seeing

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Speaker 1: kind of the Biden scrutiny pick up again. That's why

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Speaker 1: you've seen the President sort of defend Sanders and say

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Speaker 1: there's a coup against him, trying to pick at the

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Speaker 1: scabs in the Democratic Party. He had a rally in

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Speaker 1: Charlotte with North Carolina is one of the fourteen states

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Speaker 1: that's voting today, and the President literally described himself as

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Speaker 1: a troll. He said, I love trolling, you know, because

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Speaker 1: he had rallies on the eve of the Iowa caucuses,

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Speaker 1: the New Hampshire primary, the Nevada caucuses in Las Vegas,

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Speaker 1: and uh and then he in Charleston last Friday before

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Speaker 1: the South Carolina primary. So I feel like Trump is

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Speaker 1: enjoying playing in their primary. Alright, yes or no? Because

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Speaker 1: we have fifteen seconds. Are you a troll? Are you

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Speaker 1: a troll? I'm not a troll either. No trolls allowed here.

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Speaker 1: And you know what is troll. I'm Kevin CERELLI. You're

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Speaker 1: listening to Bloomberg ninety nine one. You're listening to Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: Sound On with Kevin Surreley on Bloomberg and one oh

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Speaker 1: five point seven F M h D two. Power to

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Speaker 1: the People. I'm Kevin Cerelli, Chief Washington correspondent from Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: Television and Radio. Power to the People. James helmonts here

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Speaker 1: from the Washington Post. Luis ky of Ony is here,

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Speaker 1: Power to the People. Who sang at Louise Geeh? I

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Speaker 1: don't know who did sing that, John Lennon, come on,

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Speaker 1: that's Bernie Sanders campaign songs. How groovy you are kidding?

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, power of the People. I mean

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Speaker 1: that's an iconic song. You know who's saying you can't

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Speaker 1: always get what you want? The Trump song? Who's saying that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: The Rolling Stone? All right, well you do that one? Yeah? Um,

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Speaker 1: what was I gonna say? We were talking earlier about

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Speaker 1: Love is Blind on Netflix? Do you know what's coming

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Speaker 1: out on Hulu this week? The four part Hillary Clinton?

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Speaker 1: So well? And it made me think. Christine Baratta, our

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Speaker 1: this and I guess she's promoting it by by talking

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Speaker 1: smack on Senator Bernie Sanders. And that was the point

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Speaker 1: that you were making about electability. James. I want to

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Speaker 1: play it because it's you know, let's let's listen to it.

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Speaker 1: Here's here's former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton. Here she is.

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Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders said that if he makes it to the

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Speaker 1: convention with the most pledged against, that he should be

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Speaker 1: the nominee. That's quite a bit of a change in

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Speaker 1: stance from two thousand sixteen. Your reaction, My reaction is,

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Speaker 1: let's follow the rules. We've got rules. We had rules

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Speaker 1: last time, and we have rules this time. And I

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Speaker 1: think it's always a good idea to follow the rules.

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Speaker 1: Everybody knew what they were when you got into it

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Speaker 1: in the campaign. In the documentary, you talk about his

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Speaker 1: campaign from two thousand sixteen and you call it, quote

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Speaker 1: just bologning, and I feel so bad that people got

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Speaker 1: sucked into it. Do you still feel that way now? Sure? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean you know that that was my authentic opinion.

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Speaker 1: Then it's my authentic opinion. Now, it's always bad when

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Speaker 1: you have to assure people that it's something that's an

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Speaker 1: authentic opinion. I'm not lying. I'm just gonna let you

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Speaker 1: to keep talking. You know that, you know that I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm interested to watch the documentary and your sorry, I

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Speaker 1: just politics there. Um, you know I think that She's

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Speaker 1: also launching her own podcast soon. She should she should,

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Speaker 1: uh the I think that the Clinton win. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's funny because you hear the rules thing, and

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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna hear it a lot more after today,

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Speaker 1: depending on the outcome and some of these Super Tuesday contests.

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Speaker 1: She's floating this narrative that other folks are going to

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Speaker 1: spend and Sanders changed the rules after sixteen. He demanded

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Speaker 1: that the rules be changed to make the process fairer.

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Speaker 1: But some of those changes now don't work to his benefit.

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Speaker 1: And it's because, you know, the way everything is sort

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Speaker 1: of shaking out, and so that's why you hear someone

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Speaker 1: the rules. If you don't if you don't like the rules,

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Speaker 1: you know, don't play. Yeah. There was that town hall

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Speaker 1: where Elizabeth Warren was asked by a Sanders supporter, well

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Speaker 1: what about that, and she said, well, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Those are the rules. Those are the rules that Sanders wanted.

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Speaker 1: So I guess those are the rules. But don't you

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Speaker 1: think there's a very strong potential for a broken conversion? Yeah? Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see tonight. You know, I think that at

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Speaker 1: fourteen states, I think that that is the most likely outcome,

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Speaker 1: you know, not I you know, but I um, I

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Speaker 1: think if Biden has an unexpectedly strong night, or if

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Speaker 1: calculus and there will be a lot of you know,

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Speaker 1: pressure from both wings of the party. But I do

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Speaker 1: think that the more likely scenario right now, at this

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Speaker 1: hour is is a contested convention. You know. And it's

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Speaker 1: funny because we say this every four years. We've been

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Speaker 1: through this before, right, I mean every four years, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: we thought, maybe the real contested convention, and then you

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Speaker 1: sort of do get momentum. I mean you even look

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Speaker 1: compare the conversation last Friday to the conversation today about

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, and it's a reflection of how fast these

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Speaker 1: things can change. Narratives can get locked in, and that's why,

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Speaker 1: like all of a sudden, you could just have a

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Speaker 1: freight train of momentum coming up in some of these

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Speaker 1: big stage James James James. But you can't deny voter tally's,

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Speaker 1: you can't deny turnout. What are you hearing about turnout

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Speaker 1: in terms of Democrats, and who has the most not momentum,

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Speaker 1: because that we're what is that subjective? Who is actually

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Speaker 1: bringing in the new types of voters? Who is actually

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Speaker 1: bringing in the energy? Is it Joe Biden or is

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Speaker 1: it Bernie Sanders? And that's well, the short answers, it's

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Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders. But the long answer is that Sanders hasn't

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Speaker 1: delivered kind of what he's promised so far. His whole

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Speaker 1: theory of the cases I'm going to change the electorate,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna just bring in all these people into politics

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Speaker 1: have never voted before the way in some cases Trump

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Speaker 1: actually did in in the industrial Midwest and in the

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Speaker 1: first four states, with the exception of Nevada, where you

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Speaker 1: could argue that Sanders brought in Latino young Latinos who

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Speaker 1: hadn't voted. Sanders didn't do that in Iowa or even

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire. His vote totals are lower than they were

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Speaker 1: in so that does He absolutely is the energetic candidate

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Speaker 1: who brings in young people in a way that Biden

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Speaker 1: certainly doesn't. But he's not doing what he sort of

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Speaker 1: promises he'd be able to do in November, which indicates

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Speaker 1: that he wouldn't be able to do it. But I

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Speaker 1: always said, I mean this is what this is where

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Speaker 1: I want to turn conventional wisdom on its head and say,

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Speaker 1: we'll put apply that same standard to Biden, which is

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Speaker 1: Biden said that he'd be able to unify the party. Well,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't been able to do that yet. Well he

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Speaker 1: has been able to I'm not defending Joe Biden has

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Speaker 1: been able to motivate African Americans. He did, you know,

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Speaker 1: he he gotten Carolina. But Sanders also has been able

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Speaker 1: to rally the base. And they're both doing what they

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Speaker 1: said they were going to do. And I just don't

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Speaker 1: buy this question. Is like, when you talk about Sanders,

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Speaker 1: you know, um unifying the party, I mean, what party

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Speaker 1: are you talking about? I mean, he's not really even

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Speaker 1: buttic a time out, time out though. But the Sanders world,

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Speaker 1: folks that I talked to, the Nina Turners of the world,

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Speaker 1: would say, well, what party is Joe Biden trying to unify?

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Speaker 1: And there's this identity crisis happening on the left right now,

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Speaker 1: and we're playing it in real time. And that's why

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm trying to be incredibly cautious because Bernie

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Speaker 1: Sanders and Joe Biden are talking about two very different parties.

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Speaker 1: Caution is absolutely called for now and then, and that's

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Speaker 1: why primaries are great. I'll always talk about primaries. That's

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Speaker 1: where the This is how you hash, this is what

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Speaker 1: you're about. This is how you you know, this is

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Speaker 1: how you solve identity crises. And and we live in it.

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Speaker 1: We don't. We're not in a in a parliamentary system.

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Speaker 1: We have two big tent parties with lots of people

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Speaker 1: who have lots of messy ideas. All right, so quickly,

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Speaker 1: what's your quick take and what's on your radar? What

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Speaker 1: are you gonna be watching for tonight? For Super Tuesday? Luis,

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Speaker 1: I'll start with you. Well, I guess that the big

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Speaker 1: thing is who's going to take California? Right? They have

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Speaker 1: four hundred and fifteen delegates and and you know the

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Speaker 1: prediction is that Bernie Sandras is going to be the winner.

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Speaker 1: But how strong how strong lee? Will Biden come in second?

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Speaker 1: One assumes he'll come instead the margins. Yeah, that's great,

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Speaker 1: that's that's smart. All right, Chas, what's on your what's

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Speaker 1: your quick take on her? I think early on we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a good sense from Virginia North Carolina. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know that it'll be interesting to look regionally in

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Speaker 1: a state like North Carolina. Uh, it does Sanders make

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Speaker 1: in rows Uh in you know the research triangle and

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Speaker 1: in Charlotte or is that sort of Biden country? And

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Speaker 1: also is Biden consolidating the moderate support in the northern

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Speaker 1: Virginia suburbs? And in the research we have exit you

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Speaker 1: were telling me in the break, Yeah, well, we what

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Speaker 1: we know so far is that there is a um

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Speaker 1: that we know about issues. Healthcare was the biggest issue. Also,

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Speaker 1: the electability was a major concern, especially in the Southern states. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, people wanting to beat Trump. In the early

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Speaker 1: preliminary exit poles, we also asked about socialism and Uh,

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Speaker 1: in the Northeast, where Sanders is stronger, socialism is viewed

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Speaker 1: much more favorably by Democratic voters. In the southern states

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Speaker 1: that voted today viewed quite unfavorably. Uh. And again these

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Speaker 1: are preliminary exit poles. The other interesting from yeah, from

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Speaker 1: the and the other interesting exit poll finding that's preliminaries.

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Speaker 1: In Minnesota, it had more than six and ten voters

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Speaker 1: decided in the final days who would vote for and

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Speaker 1: that suggests that a lot of people who had planned

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Speaker 1: on voting for Amy Klobuchar, are you gonna go with

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Speaker 1: someone else? That's much higher than we've seen in the

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Speaker 1: other states. All right, here's that's brilliant. Thank you buy

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Speaker 1: so much. But here's the quick take on what's all

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Speaker 1: my radar? Um, And it's about the Taliban. And I'm

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Speaker 1: reading from the terminal. Josh wing Grove excellent reporter, White

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Speaker 1: House reporter Josh wing Grove. He reports today President Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump spoke by foam with the top leader of the

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Speaker 1: Taliban about the recent peace agreement reached and cutter aimed

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Speaker 1: at winding down a conflict that has turned into America's

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Speaker 1: longest war. Trump, speaking Tuesday as he left the White House,

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Speaker 1: called the conversation a very good talk and said the

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Speaker 1: two sides reiterated commitments to reduce violence in Afghanistan. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna be hearing a lot more about Afghanistan coming up

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Speaker 1: in the weeks ahead. I predict it's what's all my radar.

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Speaker 1: I'm already hearing about it from some sources. Thank you, Louise.

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Speaker 1: Happy Super Tuesday. Where's the sum you usually come with

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Speaker 1: food pizza. I want you always give me the pizza

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Speaker 1: for good. You're right, actually, man, I'm a joy. Thank you, James.

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Speaker 1: I want pizza. It's Super Tuesday, it's election that you

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Speaker 1: gotta pizza. That's it for me