Speaker 1: Well we're back at it again, guys, Joe Rose, John
Speaker 1: k Jemmy, Kimbo caamper here with you. This is the audible.
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Speaker 1: Joe every Thursday. We dropped it on a Thursday. Hey,
Speaker 1: we're getting close, John, We're getting close to actually seeing
Speaker 1: some guys in the practice. Next week O t A starts.
Speaker 1: So when we get back next week for the show
Speaker 1: that we'll drop on Thursday, we can talk about. We'll
Speaker 1: have something to see, will be on the field, be
Speaker 1: able to stop watching these guys get around and everything.
Speaker 1: But uh, it's gonna be a pretty you know, it's funny, Joe.
Speaker 1: Everywhere I go now everyone go sees football seasons right
Speaker 1: around the corner. Sure, I mean, you know, once you
Speaker 1: get once that draft comes and everyone's mine, it's football season.
Speaker 1: And it's great because you get teased by having NHL
Speaker 1: every other night, in the NBA every other night, and
Speaker 1: then once they started getting down to the final four teams,
Speaker 1: they stretch it out and your Jane and for something
Speaker 1: to watch on TV. You not for nothing, Joe, But
Speaker 1: it looks like your warriors gonna grab this thing again. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going back town. I will tell you this to
Speaker 1: part of it here, especially here in South Florida. I've
Speaker 1: noticed on the radio. Uh, well that that's a given yet,
Speaker 1: know that they're definitely like hoping this Boston a lot
Speaker 1: of there's a lot of Celtic fans in town right now.
Speaker 1: But with the Marlin struggling with everything else to heat
Speaker 1: out of it, it's like, I just feel like coming
Speaker 1: how the rookie class. Hey, what do you think? Hey?
Speaker 1: You know Daniels coming back there all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: people realize New Year. You know how much can we
Speaker 1: flip it around? You guys know more than anybody when
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are good. This town is so good, it's
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. Hey, join us now. Look walked into Jerome Banker,
Speaker 1: a third round draft pick out Ohio State, just showed up.
Speaker 1: I love that about guys. They don't care to be serious.
Speaker 1: Drum Uh, you're you're in town. You guys came in
Speaker 1: last week, got together with the rookies. Now you're going
Speaker 1: through some orientation conditioning and stuff and and this next
Speaker 1: week you guys will get out and hit the field
Speaker 1: with the veterans. Are you looking forward to that? And
Speaker 1: how has the experience been for this last you know,
Speaker 1: weaker sociance you've been around. Yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to. Uh.
Speaker 1: You always, you know, hear guys always say you're the
Speaker 1: rook You're the rook you know you don't. I feel
Speaker 1: you pretty much your player. So I'm looking forward to
Speaker 1: get out there and so what I can do. And um,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm excited about. I liked it, by the way.
Speaker 1: I love the new system and what they're doing. Both
Speaker 1: you've been part of it and I was involved last
Speaker 1: week on this thing. Is I like life skills, social
Speaker 1: media eating right. I Mean some of the stuff makes
Speaker 1: be stuff you don't really want to hear about, but
Speaker 1: they're throwing it out their investment stuffiold, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's great. Don't you Don't you like that they're doing.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you they're probably parts of it. You roll
Speaker 1: your eyes, But a lot of it's good stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was just talking when I came in, Uh, just
Speaker 1: walking in here. Um, you know, there's so much information
Speaker 1: that you can't take it in on one day. I
Speaker 1: do a great job was taking notes and looking back
Speaker 1: on it. Um and I try to share with my family, um,
Speaker 1: sharing different people around you. Uh, this is one time
Speaker 1: you talk to a teammate and he had looked back
Speaker 1: from Oh I forgot all about that. So it's just
Speaker 1: that constant communication is just learning so much information. It's
Speaker 1: hard soaking in. But you just trying to do as
Speaker 1: much as you can. And uh, you know, the long
Speaker 1: run is definitely gonna pay uf. Now, I know you
Speaker 1: haven't been on the field yet with the team out
Speaker 1: of practice that an O t A. But what's it been, Like,
Speaker 1: what's the biggest difference for you time wise when you
Speaker 1: hit the building in the morning compared to when you're
Speaker 1: in college, Because I don't think people really understand the
Speaker 1: time that that's involved. And you haven't even gotten to
Speaker 1: the regular season yet. So just take us through maybe
Speaker 1: the biggest differences between you going to Ohio State to
Speaker 1: a practice and getting ready for something on a daily
Speaker 1: basis and coming into Davy. Yeah, so so how the
Speaker 1: state is Uh, you only get like an hour or
Speaker 1: two to do you know, football really outside of meetings
Speaker 1: and stuff. Like that. Um. Here now it's it's all
Speaker 1: up to you. You. You can have six hours just
Speaker 1: to lay around. You can have two hours to you
Speaker 1: know left in your day just to go to bed. Um.
Speaker 1: So he really is up to you. And I love
Speaker 1: the free time of I'm not gonna sit here all
Speaker 1: day and just watch football and I don't have to
Speaker 1: wear about I got a class at three o'clock or
Speaker 1: something like that. So um, that's what makes it kind
Speaker 1: of you know fun. It's you really can just do
Speaker 1: football all day and if you really love football, this
Speaker 1: is this is the life. So uh oh yeah you
Speaker 1: got you got some. You don't come here as a stranger. Um.
Speaker 1: Ray Kwon McMillan coming back from his injury last year,
Speaker 1: played with him two years ago to ohiuse state, Uh,
Speaker 1: is there is there something between the two of you
Speaker 1: that the familiarity of playing with Ray Kwan and those
Speaker 1: types of things that you feel like you can carry forward.
Speaker 1: And if you talk to him much since since you
Speaker 1: got drafted, Yeah, I pretty much talk to Kuan every day. Um.
Speaker 1: And it is one thing of you know, we familiar
Speaker 1: each other, but I'm also familiar with his little you know,
Speaker 1: taxes is a little saying. So um, as far as like,
Speaker 1: on the any chance you get, I can people Tom
Speaker 1: just only because he already been here. Um, he actually
Speaker 1: never played yet, so we just kind of compete and
Speaker 1: to see we both technically our rookies, we never really played,
Speaker 1: so uh, you know it's a chance to see. I
Speaker 1: know him personally, So I'm gonna compete anyway I can
Speaker 1: to get him better, and he's definitely gonna do. Is
Speaker 1: that the needle you used right off the bat? Hey man,
Speaker 1: you haven't played yet. I used any Joe I can.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, he always have his little ways anywhere
Speaker 1: I can push him his little needle. Anything I can do,
Speaker 1: I use it because uh, you know, he always always
Speaker 1: act is that bigger brother. I'm that knowing a little brother.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna get him to the skin. So did
Speaker 1: you did you talk to him after he got hurt? Uh?
Speaker 1: And he's going because that's a tough look. The same
Speaker 1: thing happened to me in my rookie I blew my
Speaker 1: knee out and missed the whole season, very similar to him,
Speaker 1: and that's a lonely situation. Um, did you have conversations
Speaker 1: with him after that? Guy? Yeah, So I talked to
Speaker 1: him right after that. I talked him right after that, UM,
Speaker 1: talking him a little bit. I think about Kando, he's
Speaker 1: he's not no you know, down soaker and get in
Speaker 1: his feelings. When he came to that, he was like,
Speaker 1: I'm ready to get back to work. Um. So he
Speaker 1: took it full little head of steaming. You know, I
Speaker 1: really want to work on his knee. So Uh, if
Speaker 1: you know Kuan, you know that nothing's gonna stop him.
Speaker 1: That was just a little obstacle. He got over and
Speaker 1: he's ready to show he got we We didn't know
Speaker 1: this about him, but his leadership this offseason. Uh, I
Speaker 1: mean since the end of the season. We came over
Speaker 1: here and he's taking this thing kind of over with guys.
Speaker 1: For a guy that hasn't played, you're surprised by his
Speaker 1: leadership or was he that guy Ohio State? Not at all?
Speaker 1: That's that's been him. Uh. You know Coach Bush always
Speaker 1: said he's been a middle lineback his whole life, and
Speaker 1: that's really him. It's no faking, it's nothing. Every day
Speaker 1: he walks in, he's the leader. Uh. When we see
Speaker 1: a guy like that, it kind of expires you in
Speaker 1: a way. Of you know, I wanna lead to I
Speaker 1: wanna in a turn of it creates a nice competitive relationship.
Speaker 1: So that's that's how me and Kuana is. Is he
Speaker 1: walking as a leader, But you know I'm gonna up
Speaker 1: my game to get to his level, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: What's your goal come in as a rookie. What do
Speaker 1: you want to do? You know, your high draft choice.
Speaker 1: A lot of things have been said about what you
Speaker 1: can do on the football field. What in your mind,
Speaker 1: what do you want to get done in your rookie season.
Speaker 1: I just want to get on that field and just
Speaker 1: show it I can do. Um I don't like limiting
Speaker 1: myself of being a starter or being a special teams guy.
Speaker 1: I just want to go in there and show my
Speaker 1: my talents. Um Me, I can do anything up in
Speaker 1: my mindset, and my mind is to get on that
Speaker 1: field and just show my you know, my play making
Speaker 1: ability to every every snap, every game. So that's all
Speaker 1: my goal is. I'm not worried about nothing else. Everything
Speaker 1: else is gonna come. Just go out there, make plays
Speaker 1: and have fun and the rest of handle itself. Well,
Speaker 1: when you look at yourself, if you do a little
Speaker 1: self scouting about the type of player that you are.
Speaker 1: What what do you what do you feel like your
Speaker 1: strengths are, and what do you feel like you've got
Speaker 1: to work on to be the type of player that
Speaker 1: ultimately you want to be. Um my strengths. I can run, athletic,
Speaker 1: I can cover, I can do all those things. Uh,
Speaker 1: my weakness is what I really focused on. Um, the
Speaker 1: little things to me sometimes I can be going the
Speaker 1: right way, but I don't take the right steps. Um
Speaker 1: using my hand effectively. It's a lot of different things
Speaker 1: I look on if Yeah, on TV, you don't notice it,
Speaker 1: but lineman, they can take advantage of you. So the
Speaker 1: little things, of the little detail things what I really
Speaker 1: trying to focus on. And just soaking up the playbook.
Speaker 1: That's my weekends. No, I don't know this playbook. How
Speaker 1: state I can tell you everybody positioning and their technique
Speaker 1: and everything. So that's our main focus knowledge is learn
Speaker 1: the playbooks. And you learn the playbook, you know you're
Speaker 1: you're playing speeds up and that's what can you cover?
Speaker 1: Tight ends? I can carry anybody. Check that off. Well,
Speaker 1: there's a guy the reason both said that there's a
Speaker 1: guy named Gronkowski. Uh in New England, that you're you're
Speaker 1: aware of, You've seen him play. It's gonna happen. At
Speaker 1: some point, You're gonna be on them. You're gonna be covering.
Speaker 1: You thought about that at all. I mean one of
Speaker 1: the reasons I think your hair is because grounds up
Speaker 1: in New England and they need some mind backers can
Speaker 1: run with with that big sign of a gun. Uh.
Speaker 1: One thing about him, I'm excited to it, you know,
Speaker 1: get the chance to play against them, But I'm not
Speaker 1: really focused on that right now. I'm worrying about this
Speaker 1: game better every day. Uh. I'm definitely gonna be excited
Speaker 1: when that time come. And I you know, definitely learn
Speaker 1: from different guys are different people. Uh. You know, I
Speaker 1: have the chance to work with Peper Johnson this summer,
Speaker 1: so you told me a little inside Scooper different things,
Speaker 1: So I'm excited to do that. Right now, I'm just
Speaker 1: worrying about, you know, learning what jet is and the
Speaker 1: different defensively have now. So that chance is gonna come.
Speaker 1: But right now You're come in from Ohio State. Um,
Speaker 1: and I think when we look at this draft, and
Speaker 1: one of the things I really like about the draft Alabama,
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Notre Dame Arizona State, big programs, big games,
Speaker 1: big pressure that you guys have played in those types
Speaker 1: of games. How does all that prepare you to come
Speaker 1: into this league and be the best you can be? Um,
Speaker 1: it brings something different. I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: who don't realize being all under that pressure. You kind
Speaker 1: of get used to it so you really don't even
Speaker 1: focus on it. Uh Now, I know how it feels
Speaker 1: to have a hundred the people playing cheering you on,
Speaker 1: So I don't really focus on that. You know how
Speaker 1: to have a hundred thousand people when you and I
Speaker 1: don't even focus on it. It's kind of comes to territory.
Speaker 1: It's definitely a blessing put our state. That definitely prepared me.
Speaker 1: But I already get that part. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: be nervous to go out and this is a lot
Speaker 1: of people because you know how I State have great fans,
Speaker 1: So it just kind of prepared you for a little
Speaker 1: bit about that aspect of it. So you know what,
Speaker 1: You've got thick skin too, because I can already tell
Speaker 1: guy being from Ohio State, from Cleveland having to northern California,
Speaker 1: Guys talking about Golden State and and take taking down
Speaker 1: your Cleveland Cavaliers. What do you think about the Calves? Man?
Speaker 1: I know it has to be this is this is
Speaker 1: what people don't realize. This is Lebron James, the greatest
Speaker 1: player that ever this earth. If I forgot the year
Speaker 1: when it was down three one to the Warriors, the
Speaker 1: best team ever was at seventy three and nine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if I really hit that shot, You're right, people forget
Speaker 1: It's not about the series, but this whole season we've
Speaker 1: been we had Lebron. So if you're going against Lebron,
Speaker 1: I feel bad for you because he used to hey drown.
Speaker 1: The other thing is to um, you know, you're you're
Speaker 1: kind of coming into kind of a Michigan family. You know,
Speaker 1: Stephen Ross, you you probably heard, you know, the relationship
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of Michigan people in the organization.
Speaker 1: You guys own them. What's that like? I mean, hardball
Speaker 1: still hasn't beating you guys. I was just telling Mike, um,
Speaker 1: I have no problem with the team of North. I
Speaker 1: never lost you guys, So what's the problem I don't
Speaker 1: have I don't have any memories of me being down
Speaker 1: after the game. After every win, I was happy to
Speaker 1: celebrate with my family and my friends and our team.
Speaker 1: So I have no problem. You know what. That's when
Speaker 1: you start saying, well, you know, quite frankly, we wish
Speaker 1: we could scared you guys twice a year. How do
Speaker 1: you guys do it in September? Oh yeah, you got you.
Speaker 1: You've kind of gotten into the playbook. You've been going
Speaker 1: through this whole um, you know, going through all the
Speaker 1: different aspects of this team and being a rookie and
Speaker 1: this and that. But when it comes down to playing
Speaker 1: football and getting ready to playbook? Um, how how soon
Speaker 1: do you think it's gonna take you to where you
Speaker 1: feel like you're up to speed and it's gonna be
Speaker 1: And what are you expecting when you step in on
Speaker 1: the field with it with the veteran guys, and then
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's been conversation that I know you've
Speaker 1: been involved where hey, look, these guys are all rookies
Speaker 1: coming in a lot of you veteran guys. They don't
Speaker 1: don't care, they don't give a damn about you. You know,
Speaker 1: thinks my job, If you want my job, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to work your ass off and then it's not
Speaker 1: gonna nothing gonna be given to you out there, and
Speaker 1: I respect that. I respect that totally. I remember being
Speaker 1: an older guy and young guy come in. I respect that.
Speaker 1: But uh, you know you understand the concepts. That's that's
Speaker 1: what you catch up one but one thing by football,
Speaker 1: it's not setting stone, Um, what happens when that motion
Speaker 1: go across? What are you gonna do with? Are you're
Speaker 1: different checks? That's what I'm really focusing on the concepts
Speaker 1: of cover three. You can't understand that pretty easily, but
Speaker 1: when things happen on the football field, that's when you start,
Speaker 1: you know, panicking. So that's what I'm really focused on now.
Speaker 1: To just watching old film is just all right, emotional,
Speaker 1: all right, check, what's check? What's so? Check? Um. So
Speaker 1: that's the things I'm going through now. And you really
Speaker 1: can't see how fast it goes until you're on the field. Uh,
Speaker 1: College it was fast, but you know NFL is definitely
Speaker 1: a different speed at different um level. So that's what
Speaker 1: I'm really I got something really quick for you. You know,
Speaker 1: you spent the last couple of weeks with NFL coaches.
Speaker 1: You've got Frank Bush as your linebacker coach. You've got
Speaker 1: Matt Burke as your defensive coordinator. But you're coming from
Speaker 1: a place where you had a former NFL head coach
Speaker 1: be your defensive coordinator and Greg Ciano. You've got a
Speaker 1: former position coach and coordinator defensive coordinator as your linebacker
Speaker 1: coach and Billy Davis. Do you feel like that's an
Speaker 1: advantage for you coming from coaching like that at a
Speaker 1: high level, being able to step into an NFL walker
Speaker 1: room and maybe make it be a little bit seamless
Speaker 1: for Yeah, it definitely helped. I remember coming in you know,
Speaker 1: coach David. She came in around the springtime, uh, and
Speaker 1: he asked me like, what do you have on this?
Speaker 1: I can tell him every single thing that I had,
Speaker 1: And he was like, okay, we'll do one favorite him.
Speaker 1: Get on the board and just tell him what everybody has.
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. It was one thing of he
Speaker 1: taught me. If of course you're gonna know what you have,
Speaker 1: but what do you know the guy behind you have?
Speaker 1: What is his his things that he has to you know,
Speaker 1: struggle on. So if you don't wall this to receiver
Speaker 1: that she was gonna be on it. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: gotta understand of that of you know, I gotta do
Speaker 1: my technique because the guy behind me is, you know,
Speaker 1: depending on me. So uh that aspect of having NFL coaches,
Speaker 1: they kind of, you know, prepared me for this level already.
Speaker 1: So it's definitely been to help Coach Davis. I appreciate
Speaker 1: everything he did for me. Um, you know, Coachano did
Speaker 1: the same. Coach Marie, he's one of those coaches. He's, uh,
Speaker 1: once in a lifetime coach. You're never gonna get a
Speaker 1: guy that much experience. I'm a successed, So I really
Speaker 1: appreciate the whole program of House said, Hey, I want
Speaker 1: to ask you about the guy you're familiar with, the
Speaker 1: guy drafted it had to be on this team. What
Speaker 1: can you tell us about Mike A schicky? You can
Speaker 1: say whatever you want about Mike. He can't block, he
Speaker 1: can't do this, he can't do that. He can do it. Um,
Speaker 1: that's simple, is that he can do it. The one
Speaker 1: thing about him just being his locker is like right
Speaker 1: next to mine, and he just goes to work. That's
Speaker 1: all he does. That's all he really do. Every year,
Speaker 1: it was, Yeah, they have this receiver. He you know,
Speaker 1: his stance is funny, don't whatever. Every year he came
Speaker 1: out and bought so uh, you know, you can say
Speaker 1: was one of about Mike, but he's a playmaker, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's definitely going. I'm glad he's on my team. Um,
Speaker 1: it's gonna definitely gonna be excited. All right, let me
Speaker 1: let me throw this your way because the guy we
Speaker 1: all know a couple of guys we all know, we
Speaker 1: all know his dad, Um Joey Boza or Nick Bosa.
Speaker 1: Which one is better? The Boa? Yeah, yeah, the Bosa.
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Bosa. I'm not. I'm not gonna fall
Speaker 1: from that because I want to thing about Nick can Joe.
Speaker 1: They are monsters, walk around like monsters, they play like monsters.
Speaker 1: I remember fifth grade. You know their dad, their dad, John,
Speaker 1: who was the first round draft pick of the Miamid
Speaker 1: offense own the gym. I think those kids grew up.
Speaker 1: I think that I think when they were I think
Speaker 1: when they were about a year and a half years
Speaker 1: old was the first time they did a bench press.
Speaker 1: Those guys been in the gym their whole and they're
Speaker 1: both just I mean, you're talking about splitting hairs with
Speaker 1: two really really good players that Ohio State eight years
Speaker 1: of the Boss are six years. However long it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Been pretty good. It's been pretty good time for the
Speaker 1: for the buck eyes up there. Definitely, when Nick walked
Speaker 1: in as a freshman, he did not look like a
Speaker 1: freshman at at all. And uh, one thing about him
Speaker 1: you could tell he's been around football the whole life.
Speaker 1: And you start to learn different things about football that
Speaker 1: she never really realized. Um. And you know, definitely take
Speaker 1: care of your body. They both did a great job
Speaker 1: of it in college. They played so many snaps. You know,
Speaker 1: remember the Penn State game with Joey. It was some
Speaker 1: people blocking him. He's still managed to get out of it. Um.
Speaker 1: So as far as that, you know, they are all
Speaker 1: around just they're blessed. So when people ask which one pull,
Speaker 1: is pretty good. But I tell you what, those kids
Speaker 1: they worked hard, man, Those guys that at the high
Speaker 1: school level, I mean they were they they did their work. Man.
Speaker 1: They did nothing. Look, they've they've got good bloodlines, but uh,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna do anything if you didn't put in
Speaker 1: the work. And those guys certainly put in the world. Definitely,
Speaker 1: Nick came in working. Joey as soon as I walked
Speaker 1: in the door, he was working. No matter how much
Speaker 1: praise they get, no matter what they's gonna be in
Speaker 1: the in the way room, working out. Everybody's gone, He's
Speaker 1: still there. Um. So you know they came from a
Speaker 1: great program. Even they was done at St. Thomas Aquinas.
Speaker 1: I actually looked up Nick and you know see how
Speaker 1: good he was. And it don't matter how many things
Speaker 1: um accolades he gets. He just goes to working and
Speaker 1: I love him for that. Sounds definitely good. Hey, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know the one thing that the Dolphins organization really
Speaker 1: since since back when we were here and even before,
Speaker 1: I've been real big about community outreach, going out and
Speaker 1: you got involved with some of that. You went to
Speaker 1: the United Way, y did some stuff out there or
Speaker 1: those are things you like to do or those things
Speaker 1: you want to do more of it while while you're
Speaker 1: here with this organization. Yeah, that's one thing I really
Speaker 1: prided myself on. People. I wish if you get um.
Speaker 1: When I was at elementary school, Uh, in high school,
Speaker 1: I started own or organization. I was a part of it.
Speaker 1: Well man, it was all about domestic violence. You know,
Speaker 1: got to our state time difference A little bit is
Speaker 1: off chrack, but um, just to see you know, coming
Speaker 1: as a rookie and the organization is probably the sself
Speaker 1: on that. You know, it really helps me. And you
Speaker 1: have all the playbook and you have all the different
Speaker 1: things thrown at you. Just to see those kids faces
Speaker 1: kind of you know, bring you back the earth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a great game. But at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, you're making a lot of people happy and
Speaker 1: just you being on that fields, you know, blessing. You
Speaker 1: remember I was one sitting there right and it was
Speaker 1: crazy because I was looking out and it was the kids.
Speaker 1: You can just tell they were like, oh, we're tired
Speaker 1: of this. But it it's like that one message you hear,
Speaker 1: that one thing like oh I remember that when you
Speaker 1: grow up. You're gonna remember that one little thing and
Speaker 1: you never know that might change the life. Good stuff.
Speaker 1: That's great getting involved in the community and Dolphins have
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff which allow the guys to do it.
Speaker 1: And uh, you'll be in a lot of different charity events.
Speaker 1: There is no question a lot of stuff going on.
Speaker 1: Hey you uh, you've you've been with the the rookies
Speaker 1: for a long time, for for quite a while now, uh,
Speaker 1: and you've got to know the guys that are were
Speaker 1: their draft picks and the free agents everybody out here
Speaker 1: and really right now where you're all in the same footing,
Speaker 1: everyone's got the same opportunity as is everyone else, whether
Speaker 1: you're in the first round draft pick or or the
Speaker 1: last free agent sign. But I know, Joe, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's for you. Johns do the same thing and myself.
Speaker 1: You know, you always seem to have that your your
Speaker 1: rookie class, whether they make the team or not, that
Speaker 1: they're kind of you. You kind of bonded together because
Speaker 1: you're going through the whole thing. Are you starting to
Speaker 1: bond with a lot of the other A lot of
Speaker 1: the other rookies are in the building. That's gonna sound crazy,
Speaker 1: But the one guy really bonded with is from the
Speaker 1: you know, the team up North, Michael Cray. He's honestly,
Speaker 1: every chance, I'm like, I'm getting filmed, I'm coming in
Speaker 1: with you, all right, Michael, gonna me mean the you
Speaker 1: know the ice, I'm coming Just give me a second.
Speaker 1: So he's kind of basically been my friend of you know,
Speaker 1: going through it together. It's kind of funny that he
Speaker 1: was a team in North and I came a little
Speaker 1: tease but he don't really cares if it's funny. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I was drafted in nineteen seventy six and they're still
Speaker 1: guys that came in my rookie class and I'm still
Speaker 1: friends with, still talk to it guys. You'll have that bond,
Speaker 1: same group Dwight, Don McNeill, Sam. It was like yesterday
Speaker 1: and we all came in at twenty one years old
Speaker 1: and and hanging out. Those guys had their act together,
Speaker 1: a little more together and something a little I'm a
Speaker 1: little more mature, but not not like those. Hey, you've
Speaker 1: been around coach gaze what you are your thoughts about
Speaker 1: the about the head coach. He's down earth. He's really
Speaker 1: down to earth, and he just speaks through with you.
Speaker 1: A little different than Urban Meyer, a lot different. He
Speaker 1: put his hat on, he's gonna say whatever. It's a
Speaker 1: lot different, but you can just tell he's a great guy. Good. Hey, Jerome,
Speaker 1: I really appreciate taking some time out. I know it's
Speaker 1: kind of been a whirlwin for you, uh since the
Speaker 1: draft and everything and everything has gone on. But uh,
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of you got a lot
Speaker 1: of good things coming your way, and uh, we're looking
Speaker 1: forward to watching you playing fun something out there. And
Speaker 1: you know, just just when you play new win and
Speaker 1: give a little little elbow to the chin of the ground,
Speaker 1: can get him out of the game early, and we'll
Speaker 1: be a lot better off. We'll all be a lot
Speaker 1: better off for that. Thank you, Thank you. I'm glad
Speaker 1: to be here. Gotta talk a little of us. Appreciate
Speaker 1: good stuff. This wasn't a bad group, right, this one,
Speaker 1: this one right? Thank you? All right, Hey, guys, good stuff.
Speaker 1: You know. I'm looking forward to seeing I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to seeing a good draft class. I'm looking forward to
Speaker 1: seeing the draft class. Man. I tell you, I really
Speaker 1: am looking forward to seeing all these guys out here
Speaker 1: and seeing what they're new. Goodsicky. We talked about him,
Speaker 1: and I want to see him. I want to see
Speaker 1: Durham smite the kid for the the other. I want
Speaker 1: to see the blocking tight end fitz Patrick. Fitzpatrick. This
Speaker 1: guy's all business and I want to see him. And
Speaker 1: I don't know that i've been. I don't know that
Speaker 1: i've I don't know that I've been. Is eager to
Speaker 1: watch O t A s as I think I am
Speaker 1: with with this group coming in. Not only that but
Speaker 1: you've got ray Kwan coming back, You've got Ryan coming back.
Speaker 1: You know. Ray Kuan to me is like another draft choice,
Speaker 1: like bringing another draft choice in here, and a guy's
Speaker 1: gonna be a starter. I believe this kid is gonna
Speaker 1: be the starter on the is that other outside linebacker
Speaker 1: and and you you put you put Minka in there,
Speaker 1: you put him in there, and you put Gasecki. You
Speaker 1: have you may have three starters in that uh, coming
Speaker 1: right out of the first three guys. The first three
Speaker 1: guys drafted. A lot of this improvement of this team
Speaker 1: and the unknown for everybody, and everybody's trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what their predictions nationally and locally is this group
Speaker 1: of guys you just talked about bo I mean the
Speaker 1: veteran guys are I call him nice band aids And
Speaker 1: they're important. But the big growth comes from your draft class,
Speaker 1: your rookie free agents. Boa John, We're gonna be talking
Speaker 1: about two or three rookie free agents gonna make this
Speaker 1: team and have an impact by the end of the year.
Speaker 1: It happens every year, you know, there there's always It's
Speaker 1: funny because there's always that free agent and and maybe
Speaker 1: if you're lucky there's two of them, but there's always
Speaker 1: that one free agent, right that you're watching them, and
Speaker 1: no one pays attention. First week, you know, always just slow,
Speaker 1: you know, guys too slow, the guy this or that,
Speaker 1: And and then then you go to then you're in
Speaker 1: a O tannual. Geez, I think I made a nice
Speaker 1: play there, you know, Yeah, then who's number twenty six? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And then the next record, think I made another playoff?
Speaker 1: And then you go to training camp and guy's making
Speaker 1: plays all over and then you get that last cut, right,
Speaker 1: you get the last cut, and you're going, man, I
Speaker 1: hope they keep that guy. That guy got got very
Speaker 1: little chance of making the team. And then and then
Speaker 1: you know, in the meeting room when it comes down
Speaker 1: to cutdowns, those coups going, hey, you can't get rid
Speaker 1: of that guy. And you know what, all the veterans
Speaker 1: are going, hey, we can't get rid of that guy.
Speaker 1: Think makes plays every time he's in there. And who
Speaker 1: was it a couple of years ago? It might have
Speaker 1: been three four years ago now, and we had the
Speaker 1: three linebackers that were all two years ago. Yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: Neville Hewitt and thezact vigil of maybe that year the
Speaker 1: year before, like it was all these guys and we're
Speaker 1: looking that guy is a pretty good play? Was that
Speaker 1: the same guy? That was a different guy, that was
Speaker 1: forty six? The other guy, and you kept going down
Speaker 1: the list, And you hope you do that this year
Speaker 1: because that means you're getting stronger at the bottom and
Speaker 1: it's starting to get into the middle of the team
Speaker 1: and the side. We've seen some pretty some pretty decent
Speaker 1: draft choice and you're watched him for ten minutes ago.
Speaker 1: I can't play. I can't play. And we will have
Speaker 1: that too, that that that will pop up. But but
Speaker 1: I do agree. Hey, how about the fourth preseason games.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking back to Minnesota last year. We're
Speaker 1: sitting there and we had a linebacker make the team,
Speaker 1: had a monster game and ends up starting because of suspension.
Speaker 1: He plays the first game of the regular season and
Speaker 1: did a nice job. How about the guy finds out,
Speaker 1: chase out and finds out that the morning that he's
Speaker 1: not only playing, he's starting because you lost your outside linebacker.
Speaker 1: He's starting. First way crashes down makes a tap for
Speaker 1: the losses very first play in the National Football League
Speaker 1: a week rookie free agent that so you know, you
Speaker 1: look at all the draft choices and look there, that's
Speaker 1: like the uh, you know, the draft choices are like
Speaker 1: the you know, the presidents, you want to open them
Speaker 1: with Christmas. The free agents are like those candy canes
Speaker 1: that are hanging out that no one wants to know
Speaker 1: when you're you're bored. You gotta because it's Christmas, but
Speaker 1: no one wants to eat those things. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go out of him in bed. That bow has
Speaker 1: done that a couple of times. Yeah, yeah, there's no questions.
Speaker 1: He's popped a little piece off there, put it back
Speaker 1: into Uh. Hey, you know what we've we've we've had
Speaker 1: guests for the last couple of weeks, so we've kind
Speaker 1: of been avoiding or not. We've we've kind of left
Speaker 1: the uh, the fans of side. He's out of time
Speaker 1: out right. Everybody's yeah, everybody's looking now. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that someone might not be go back into time out
Speaker 1: after this one. I haven't looked at any of these questions,
Speaker 1: but we'll go ahead and go through and get some
Speaker 1: of these questions. Acebook Jeff Myers, what do you guys,
Speaker 1: what was what was your guys, rookie experience, like Joe
Speaker 1: right down to the wire man for me seventh round
Speaker 1: pick twelve rounds. Uh had a good, really good rookie preseason. Uh.
Speaker 1: I did, made a lot of catches. I remember that.
Speaker 1: But found out from Don Strock when everybody's messing with me,
Speaker 1: telling hey, kid man, what are you gonna do when
Speaker 1: you go back to California. You get cut because that's
Speaker 1: how it was back then. And then Don Strock said, hey,
Speaker 1: nobody's told you yet, but you're gonna make the freging team.
Speaker 1: So that was you were part of that. We were
Speaker 1: in one of those rookie groups where you had like
Speaker 1: three people in your locker. Oh yeah, you always knew
Speaker 1: where you stood when you came in that first day
Speaker 1: of training camp and saw how many people you were
Speaker 1: sharing a locker room. Some guys at the far you
Speaker 1: remember that far end down there, that was like, no,
Speaker 1: you didn't want to be anywhere deer down there, and
Speaker 1: there was like eight guys and everybody down there, you know.
Speaker 1: We all we had was wood frame two by four's
Speaker 1: with chicken wire on him. And they put three guys
Speaker 1: in that locker, three guys in each one, and you're
Speaker 1: looking and You're coming off the field after like a
Speaker 1: hot training camp day and you look at those guys.
Speaker 1: Go man, those Porsona bitches and you spreading. I got
Speaker 1: plenty of your room. So I was just to get back.
Speaker 1: I was paranoid the whole time, went right down to
Speaker 1: the wire about making a team. I felt like I
Speaker 1: played well in the preseason, but back then, they're only
Speaker 1: forty five guys on the team. They're a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of guys. And back then, outside of being a first
Speaker 1: round pick, maybe a second round pick, you weren't real
Speaker 1: safe back then like today, now, we had a kid
Speaker 1: I remember a kid, uh that that she was drafting
Speaker 1: third round. Remember Lyman Smith? Were you here for Lyman So?
Speaker 1: Lyman Smith? He was an offensive guard or offensive tack
Speaker 1: on him. They drafted him in the third round. She
Speaker 1: was cut him in the first week. He didn't even
Speaker 1: last the first week. And got rid of the guy.
Speaker 1: I mean he was. He wasn't a little bit of
Speaker 1: no nonsense back and you know, you know, now you
Speaker 1: imagine invest in the third round and you get rid
Speaker 1: of him in the third week of the first week.
Speaker 1: Look at Jeroan Baker, He's the third round pick. You
Speaker 1: got his job secure. You got to be real bad
Speaker 1: and a real jerk off. If you're a third round
Speaker 1: or fourth round, even fifth round the team, now you
Speaker 1: got to be really how about this guy? So in Canada,
Speaker 1: anything goes right. So my rookie year, I get into
Speaker 1: my first meeting and actually, a former coach with the
Speaker 1: Dolphins for the past three years, Danny Barrett was in
Speaker 1: the quarterback room with me. So Danny Barrett's with me.
Speaker 1: He's from Lake Worth High School, kind of know him
Speaker 1: a little bit, and uh, and there's all these other
Speaker 1: guys and you're thinking you're the guy that they brought in.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be okay. Well, there's six quarterbacks in this room, right,
Speaker 1: So you're walking around, you're kind of getting the lay
Speaker 1: of the land. You go off for a few practices.
Speaker 1: You kind of go like, I got that guy. I
Speaker 1: got this guy pretty good. You know, my competition is
Speaker 1: probably Danny and I are gonna be battling the start.
Speaker 1: So this other guy comes up to me and says, hey, listen, brook,
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know, if you're fortunate
Speaker 1: enough to be my backup this year, I just want
Speaker 1: to let you know that I'll take care of you.
Speaker 1: You know, I'll show you the ropes, show you where
Speaker 1: to live. We're not to do, what to do, and
Speaker 1: I'm going and I don't want to say anything something
Speaker 1: being a nice guy, so you had no problem. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it. I go to Danny. I go Danny. This
Speaker 1: guy just told me if I'm lucky enough to be
Speaker 1: his backup. When when I came a week later, this
Speaker 1: guy is packing it. Go in early in the morning
Speaker 1: for practice. We had like two days and then a walkthrough.
Speaker 1: So it's like seven o'clock in the morning. We're going
Speaker 1: through our stuff and he's packing his stuff. I'm like, hey, John,
Speaker 1: where are you going. Well, then we had a disagreement.
Speaker 1: I'm going I said, no, I wish you good luck.
Speaker 1: But disagreement was he thought he could play in the team,
Speaker 1: thought he could disagree. He disagreement. There wasn't That was hilarious.
Speaker 1: That was an eye opening experience though, going into that
Speaker 1: rookie So so my rookie year I played in. I
Speaker 1: was very fortunate enough to play in the very last
Speaker 1: college All Star Game, which I guarantee you of the
Speaker 1: people listening to this podcast, I have no idea what
Speaker 1: it is but they used to take the he was
Speaker 1: the first two players in each position drafted, and and
Speaker 1: that made up the College All Star Game, and you
Speaker 1: went up to Chicago and you played against the defending
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champions. So we played against the seventy six,
Speaker 1: the seventies six, uh Pittsburgh Steelers with all you know
Speaker 1: that when they were when they were there, and everybody
Speaker 1: you know, the lamp they're all there, Franco uh, Terry
Speaker 1: brad Shaw, that whole offense like character. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't think we we played in that game. I don't
Speaker 1: think we got past the forty yard our fourty yards.
Speaker 1: So anyway, So I but by doing that, I missed
Speaker 1: the first two weeks of training camp. The league had
Speaker 1: to deal with the Tribute company who owned the game,
Speaker 1: that if you if you, if you got picked and
Speaker 1: you signed your contract, you had to go. You had
Speaker 1: no choice. And so I missed the first two weeks.
Speaker 1: So I literally play the game at night, jump on
Speaker 1: a jump on a flight, get here like at six
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, rush over to training camp, throw
Speaker 1: my ship on, get right around the field. I'm ready
Speaker 1: to play linebacker. I've never played linebacker in my life.
Speaker 1: So I come running out in the field. Guys in
Speaker 1: middle practice right and uh and rnc's me company goes go, hey,
Speaker 1: you are you ready to get in? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to get my helmet straight and stuff.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking around, you know, the first time ever
Speaker 1: walking into a training can to training can, I said.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, Coach goes, I get in there. He says, well,
Speaker 1: he goes. All you need to do is you know,
Speaker 1: if run shows, play your run support and if past
Speaker 1: shows just dropping that short outside zone. That's all you
Speaker 1: gotta do. And I'm running in, going, what the hell
Speaker 1: is run support? Like? I got your coach, So I
Speaker 1: get in the huddle first play and I love. I
Speaker 1: line up. I'm playing outside linebacker. I line up. I
Speaker 1: look in there, Bob Greasy Hall of Famers playing quarterback,
Speaker 1: Jim Langer hall of Famer, is playing center, Larry Little,
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer is playing UH is playing guard, Mercury
Speaker 1: Morris is in the backfield and UM, and so I'm going, okay,
Speaker 1: you know they're getting Bob. You know, Bob starts a
Speaker 1: back pedal. I dropped into my zone right kind of
Speaker 1: settle back in my little ten yard zone, a little
Speaker 1: double zone. All of a sudden, I look and here
Speaker 1: comes here comes um Bob coachen Bergen screen him and
Speaker 1: Larry Little, and I see mirk drifting out. Here we go,
Speaker 1: and so Greece throws a little lost a little past
Speaker 1: the murk right and I step up and here comes
Speaker 1: the three offensive life coach. Coach hits me with his
Speaker 1: helmet right under my chin. I mean, came right up
Speaker 1: my chin. Knocked me right, the first thing hit first thing.
Speaker 1: I hit the ground with my back of my head.
Speaker 1: I get the ship knocked out of me, and I think,
Speaker 1: I think Langer stepped on my chest and and then
Speaker 1: Murk comes running by, and I'm laying down the ground
Speaker 1: like this, and all of a sudden, all I see
Speaker 1: in my face is Bill larns Barger, like six inches
Speaker 1: from my face. I damn its son. In this league,
Speaker 1: you gotta keep your head on the swing. That was
Speaker 1: That was my introduction and what the hell did I
Speaker 1: get myself into? But yeah, so that those are experiences.
Speaker 1: It's always fun to think back on them. But you know, really,
Speaker 1: for for these kids, for us back in the time,
Speaker 1: when you go into that's a that's a that's a
Speaker 1: stressful time, man, forget new people. You don't know if
Speaker 1: you fit this and that, and you go from the
Speaker 1: big horse on campus and you come down here and
Speaker 1: you gotta learn a new system, and you got new teammates,
Speaker 1: and you don't know how the veterans feel about you.
Speaker 1: Some guys, every every veterans different, even like today. Some
Speaker 1: will go, hey, I want to help you. You know,
Speaker 1: you're not a threat. Some dudes are insecure and want
Speaker 1: nothing to do with you. I have the whole game,
Speaker 1: but I have you. Guys say I'll help you out.
Speaker 1: And then the guys that Cam drews they drafted you
Speaker 1: in the first round, you know. And then the other
Speaker 1: one was because at the time that's ever been the
Speaker 1: three Super Bowls they had won, two went undefeated, and
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of guys left in that team.
Speaker 1: My rookie salary it was thirty six thousand dollars. There
Speaker 1: were guys in that locker room still making eighteen thousand
Speaker 1: dollars at the time, and I'm walking through and the go,
Speaker 1: you son of a bitch played down. I haven't played
Speaker 1: a damn down there paying you double as much as
Speaker 1: I'm making right now. So you had a bunch of
Speaker 1: their pisst at you everybody's wherever. But I did learn
Speaker 1: right off the bat every but he knows about everybody's
Speaker 1: bass salary and signing there are all right, let's go
Speaker 1: uh el Choppo Facebook, you know what. One of these days,
Speaker 1: maybe we'll get it from right, you know, from the
Speaker 1: real el Chapo. Maybe you'll maybe you'll dig out of
Speaker 1: a hole and pop out of question for us. The
Speaker 1: national media is critical of Jerome Baker's size. What do
Speaker 1: you guys thinks? Can he be a three down guy?
Speaker 1: A three down linebacker? Well, look, I've been impressed with
Speaker 1: the guy and pressed away the way he carries himself.
Speaker 1: We had a chance to talk to him just a
Speaker 1: few minutes ago. I like what you're thinking about not
Speaker 1: the biggest guy out there, speed guy, but but you
Speaker 1: heard him. We talked about can you cover a linebacker?
Speaker 1: I can cover anybody. His his his attitude, so um,
Speaker 1: you know, I think there's questions there. But but I
Speaker 1: think the day all these guys playing first, second, and
Speaker 1: third down, I think everybody's gonna be in different packages
Speaker 1: coming in and out. We're talking yesterday about this what
Speaker 1: is it now? Nickel package seven in the package, yeah, crazy, everybody,
Speaker 1: and and and down in distance. Maybe this guy's in
Speaker 1: for third and twelve, but this guy's in for a
Speaker 1: third and six. But you're still maybe in a multi
Speaker 1: you know, in a in a Nickel package or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's just I would say that the game league has
Speaker 1: been specialized for such a long time, but it's getting micromanaged.
Speaker 1: But this guy did pretty good at a high level
Speaker 1: at Ohio State. Let's let it play out a little
Speaker 1: bit and see what he can and what he can't do.
Speaker 1: Let him prove that. And you know that the thing
Speaker 1: I keep thinking about with him and ray Kawon McMillan,
Speaker 1: two guys that played together, that know each other, to
Speaker 1: know how each other plays, that have played you know,
Speaker 1: off each other, you know, during their career in Ohio State.
Speaker 1: I just think it's gonna be an interesting It's gonna
Speaker 1: be an interesting walks during training camp. Let's put it
Speaker 1: that way. Uh Duke Dennis from Twitter, Hey, fellas, you
Speaker 1: know you gotta stick with the periscope crew for good questions.
Speaker 1: Do you think we should be trying to lock up
Speaker 1: Bobby and you can now before we lose him to
Speaker 1: free agency? Like we have so many other homegrown picks. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Duke Dennis comes in from a Twitter, So yeah, you
Speaker 1: can get Twitter periscope and come in that way and
Speaker 1: you're on your questions. Uh Bobby McCain, Um what you guy?
Speaker 1: I don't know. If I don't know what, he's got
Speaker 1: to be getting real close into his contract and if
Speaker 1: you can tie him up. He got his improvement was
Speaker 1: he improved about as much as anybody on the team.
Speaker 1: Obviously Exavien, how are there? There were a few guys,
Speaker 1: but I thought Bobby McCain was right for the way
Speaker 1: he played in at his nickel outside exactly. Well, that's
Speaker 1: just to your point show somebody goes down. Bobby McCain
Speaker 1: can move and he can play multiple positions. You know
Speaker 1: you have Mica Fitzpatrick now be able to do that.
Speaker 1: The more guys you can get, more hat you can
Speaker 1: wear in the NFL, no matter where you're drafted, you're
Speaker 1: gonna be depended on to play in a pinch. I
Speaker 1: think he gives you a lot of variation attitude. He
Speaker 1: got a little chip on his shoulder. He walks, he's good,
Speaker 1: he's good like and he's good and he's a good
Speaker 1: guy for the team kind of keeps things loose, keeps
Speaker 1: things out there, but when it comes time to business
Speaker 1: for business, the guy takes care of business. I looked,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have a problem if they if they, if
Speaker 1: they upped him, you know, extended him a little bit. Uh,
Speaker 1: but for he gets the free agency. Another Facebook from
Speaker 1: tomb I'm assuming that's Tom, but maybe it's Tomb. If
Speaker 1: it's Tomb, right, if it's mel Toemay, Melt Tourmay whatever,
Speaker 1: it's something bates Tommy, Tom Tom Tomay whatever. Cam Wake
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be slowing down yet, one of the
Speaker 1: most consistent guys in the team. What do you I
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I don't think this guy slow
Speaker 1: him down. I tried to bait him the other day
Speaker 1: when the lunch room after a show and I saw
Speaker 1: Cam and the I said, Camp, there's some brownies over here.
Speaker 1: He goes, will you ate him? Yeah? Hey, the team
Speaker 1: has to to make sure they're okay. Though he's still
Speaker 1: thirty six, but it is. If there's such thing asn't
Speaker 1: young thirty six, it's him and nobody's you just mentioned
Speaker 1: takes care of their body like he does. No, No,
Speaker 1: he is and look, he takes care of himself. And look,
Speaker 1: the other thing is, you know he's out of football
Speaker 1: for three or four years. You know, so he maybe
Speaker 1: thirty six, but from a from a tread standpoint, he's
Speaker 1: he's a you know, he's a thirty two year old guy.
Speaker 1: Like you said, Joe, he takes care of his body boat.
Speaker 1: You see him in there. He eats a certain thing
Speaker 1: every day at a certain time. You look at him,
Speaker 1: and we've all been around this team for a lot
Speaker 1: of years. That guy hasn't changed much. Hasn't changed in
Speaker 1: his appearance, hasn't changed in his offseason approaching what he does,
Speaker 1: has bounced back from his achilles, hasn't changed in his effort,
Speaker 1: hasn't reduce exactly. Yeah, we haven't had a guy disappear
Speaker 1: in the offseason like this guy. He's the all time guy.
Speaker 1: We never hear about him. I don't know where he lives,
Speaker 1: what he does. It's umble you talk about teaching young
Speaker 1: guys how to disappear and never be seen or heard
Speaker 1: and have the private life. Cam's a president back and look,
Speaker 1: I think at this point, certainly he's a guy that
Speaker 1: you look at from a maintenance standpoint during practices, you
Speaker 1: maybe do a little a little play count on him.
Speaker 1: You know, hey, we're kind of keep you in this situation.
Speaker 1: And you know, maybe you know, you've got all these
Speaker 1: defensive ends and the rotation is gonna gonna help him
Speaker 1: out with that too. So I don't see him slowing down.
Speaker 1: I I would I wouldn't be surprised to see Cam
Speaker 1: for this year, next year, and then then and then
Speaker 1: after that maybe you start going well maybe I don't know,
Speaker 1: but look, there's leaving this game. Broke Facebook Tommy Cloggs.
Speaker 1: You know, I was a little a little stanch when
Speaker 1: I see Tommy Clogg's in here. Tommy, I heard Tommy
Speaker 1: has a problem, is a serious problem. He has at
Speaker 1: elimination problem. He's always busy eliminating when he should be working. John, John,
Speaker 1: I've been saving your one on ones with the draft picks.
Speaker 1: What was your impression on the rookies and did anyone
Speaker 1: really surprise or stand out to you have talked to
Speaker 1: just they talked to all the draft picks. You know,
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. I think you can go down the list.
Speaker 1: All good guys, all stand up guys. Uh were really
Speaker 1: well spoken. I thought the excitement level you could tell
Speaker 1: these guys are excited about being here and just not
Speaker 1: They're ready to go to work. They're ready to contribute,
Speaker 1: they want to contribute, and I think when you take
Speaker 1: a look, I was surprised at Gazicky and Smite because
Speaker 1: those guys are drafted in the fans minds for different reasons.
Speaker 1: But I think you're gonna get instant resolve in in
Speaker 1: their own different ways at those positions, at that position
Speaker 1: a tight end. I The guy that struck me. The
Speaker 1: guy that stood out the most though, was Blaged. He's big,
Speaker 1: he shook your hand, almost went down to one knee.
Speaker 1: The guy is a strong dude, and he's ready to
Speaker 1: go to work. This guy is he's been productive. He
Speaker 1: was one of those sleeper type of picks because not
Speaker 1: a lot of people will following Arizona statement. Be quite
Speaker 1: honest with you, you know, nobody really mentioned him in
Speaker 1: the national media that that could be a steel for future.
Speaker 1: And he's not real happy that he got drafted so late.
Speaker 1: He's he he wants to prove something to people like that,
Speaker 1: something like that. But whatever number he was, you don't
Speaker 1: like that number. You don't like that number at all.
Speaker 1: So I like that. But you know you touched on
Speaker 1: something to John uh when when and had a chance
Speaker 1: to speak to all the rookies uh and and and
Speaker 1: get to to know some of them here in the
Speaker 1: last few days. And they're they're all cut from the
Speaker 1: same cloth. Man. They're all about business. You're talking about
Speaker 1: South and I don't want to hear about that. I
Speaker 1: want to be the best player I can be. I
Speaker 1: want to get in my book. I'm taking notes on everything,
Speaker 1: I'm doing everything, and from top to bottom. They've all
Speaker 1: got that attitude, and it permeates. I think it's permeated
Speaker 1: that room where all these rookies are getting to gotten
Speaker 1: together in all their meetings to understand that this is
Speaker 1: no it's no bullshit. It's not coming down there when
Speaker 1: we came out here, you know, okay, yeah, practice of work.
Speaker 1: We go get a beer, you know, when we need
Speaker 1: we need to spend more time in the in the
Speaker 1: tape room. And this and that good one good thing
Speaker 1: I found from this draft class, and maybe a couple
Speaker 1: of others. When you go down the list, it's Alabama,
Speaker 1: it's penn State of tile State, it's Notre Dame, it's
Speaker 1: Arizona State. Those guys are ready to go to work.
Speaker 1: They're ready to go. It's not it's not North Texas
Speaker 1: state where you gotta well, maybe in two years this guy,
Speaker 1: you know, he'll learn the process. There's no more learning curve.
Speaker 1: Now for the Miami Dolphins, there's six and ten last year.
Speaker 1: These guys don't produce. It's the guys that picked them.
Speaker 1: It's their name on you know, signing that off. These
Speaker 1: guys have to produce. All these kids, all these young
Speaker 1: men have been in positions where the pressure is the
Speaker 1: greatest and they produced it. And look at like Jeron
Speaker 1: Baker said, hey, look you know he was in Ohio
Speaker 1: State every week I played in front of a hundred thousand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you think I'm going to one of these stadiums with
Speaker 1: your seventy thousand, eighty thousand. You think I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: you gonna be a shrinking violet. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: gonna I just I like that aspect to about about
Speaker 1: this draft class. Twitter at uh carry at carry zero
Speaker 1: zero carry double o one. I never know how to
Speaker 1: do those number double number doubles or this or that.
Speaker 1: You're good. Yeah, it sucked. I stumbled over like a
Speaker 1: like a drunken fool stepping over a curve. Speaking of Bears,
Speaker 1: Ohio State fan here, Jerome Baker is a beast. The
Speaker 1: stats don't give enough credit. I thought he should have
Speaker 1: stayed a year and to beef up his stats he
Speaker 1: had done. If he had he done that, he would
Speaker 1: have gone in the first round next year. Got a
Speaker 1: real steal for the Dolphins. I feel real good about
Speaker 1: the kid. And you know what, It's funny with a
Speaker 1: guy like Jerome Baker, you know all the other guy
Speaker 1: from Ohio State that the jump out to you, and
Speaker 1: you know you sometimes you get a guy like that,
Speaker 1: it gets buried because there's so many big time stars
Speaker 1: on that team. This guy's are a very good player himself.
Speaker 1: But you know, maybe not that guy that everyone's everyone's
Speaker 1: talking about, uh, but still very very good play. Today's
Speaker 1: guys like it used to be, if you were for
Speaker 1: if you if you were a first round pick, he
Speaker 1: came out early. Nowadays, Bow, these guys know they go
Speaker 1: in the first few rounds. We've seen guys to the
Speaker 1: fifth round. They're coming out now. They just go, hey,
Speaker 1: I'll take my chances more draft picks than ever making teams.
Speaker 1: You gotta keep him around. It's a great opportunity with
Speaker 1: the salary cap. So we're seeing with the salary cap.
Speaker 1: I think it's getting unusual now with seven rounds um
Speaker 1: if a team gets ready to one of those draft picks, right,
Speaker 1: that's right, they're keeping them around there there because because
Speaker 1: it it does, it helps her. You know, their their
Speaker 1: price range certainly softens that salary. And he's probably a
Speaker 1: practice squad if you're a week on practice squad more less. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no doubt, uh facebook uh ram Dak Blunt. I like
Speaker 1: what the Dolphins did in the draft overall, even though
Speaker 1: I'm not crazy about them getting Mica Fitzpatrick. Even though
Speaker 1: I get taking I get taking one of the highest
Speaker 1: rated players on the board. I hope he's a quick
Speaker 1: study and not a liability to only get eaten up
Speaker 1: by New England because they love going after rookie cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: You know what, It's funny because I thought it was
Speaker 1: a great pick. It kind of came out of the
Speaker 1: blue for me. He wasn't the guy I was thought.
Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna go after, But when I
Speaker 1: got when they got him, I thought, hell, that's a
Speaker 1: great pick and fits in, gives him depth, gives him
Speaker 1: a lot of versatility in the secondary. I'm surprising how
Speaker 1: many people I've heard going, why did they take that kid? Well, listen,
Speaker 1: we got going on Virginia Tech. I was sitting there
Speaker 1: a little brainwash it. We're looking at Ferrell's on the outside,
Speaker 1: at outside linebacker. I will tell you though, Mr Ken
Speaker 1: Jimmy hit that called it out. They said that guy
Speaker 1: is the guy? Well, you know it was. That was
Speaker 1: kind of the everybody circled after the linebackers left, and
Speaker 1: it was also Edmonds. We we were all kind of
Speaker 1: hot on him. I figured out he was that linebacker.
Speaker 1: But I was so surprised that you were able to
Speaker 1: get those linemen to go ahead and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden all the quarterbacks. We all talked about that if
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks were gonna go, that was gonna give exposed
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins to a lot more options than just at
Speaker 1: linebacker or a defense from that. Yeah, it was really
Speaker 1: I look, for all the people that aren't aren't happy
Speaker 1: with that pick, uh, you can take some of my
Speaker 1: happiness with it and spread it around and make a
Speaker 1: little more palerable. Just go back and look at his
Speaker 1: production Alabama. Look, people asked me the draft. I still look,
Speaker 1: I thought the draft was great. I always throw the
Speaker 1: caveat but these guys gotta come out here and play
Speaker 1: that they got, you know, and I don't. It's make
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick or the last free agent. Yeah, draft pick that
Speaker 1: that came to this that signed with this football team. Look,
Speaker 1: they're all even right now, they all go out of
Speaker 1: the team. I'll have a chance to go out there
Speaker 1: and get the job done and and make the team.
Speaker 1: And I've seen plenty of guys first second round draft
Speaker 1: out picks that that barely ever saw the field. And
Speaker 1: I've seen Look, I was with Larry Lily, Yes, a
Speaker 1: free agent that end up going to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: I asked Larry Larry, how many how many free agents
Speaker 1: are there in the Hall of how many Hall of
Speaker 1: Famers are in the free agent and that are there
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame that that came to the
Speaker 1: league as undrafted free agent. She said, it's probably eight
Speaker 1: to ten, eight to ten Hall of Famer. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's not uh, it's anybody's ball game out there. Uh. Facebook,
Speaker 1: Bill McMaster games prefers running back by committee, just like
Speaker 1: the two tight end sets. He's still building his team.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. And I think you talked about Blas.
Speaker 1: I think he has a nice different uh you know
Speaker 1: with with Gore in there with him and there, um,
Speaker 1: I think you're in your You got a pretty good
Speaker 1: situation and become pretty good competition there at the running
Speaker 1: back spot. And I think too a tight end Joe,
Speaker 1: I mean you're gonna have two three tight end sets.
Speaker 1: He spent out do some stuff in there to action
Speaker 1: two or three tight ends. He loves two and three.
Speaker 1: He listen, are tight end numbers in the past receiving game.
Speaker 1: I've got to get picked up. We we do run
Speaker 1: a lot of too tight end. We like to use
Speaker 1: our full back as a as a tight end guy.
Speaker 1: We we gotta get more, a lot more. But you
Speaker 1: know we had talked about this earlier with with Kaseki.
Speaker 1: Is that Look, there are a lot of Adam put
Speaker 1: Adam put those tight ends in a lot of mismatches,
Speaker 1: put them in a lot of situations where they could
Speaker 1: have made plays. They just didn't make the plays. Either
Speaker 1: the ball wasn't there, or they didn't catch the ball
Speaker 1: or you know, the stuff to catch the ball. Why
Speaker 1: you always go there Joe, you were leading me into it.
Speaker 1: You put up that sign and said stiff, like leaving
Speaker 1: the horse to water. I watch them flex out and
Speaker 1: I'm going, how come I'm not excited about this match up?
Speaker 1: Then he runs a shitty route but still gets open
Speaker 1: balls right there, just didn't catch the actually ran come
Speaker 1: out drop. Uh. John McGary Facebook. Uh, Kellen Blage. We
Speaker 1: were saying that during the season too, so it's not
Speaker 1: like we're just taking shots at the guy while he's gone. Uh.
Speaker 1: Kellen Blige is a beast. He's gonna be tough to
Speaker 1: bring down. You can't wait to see our backs? See
Speaker 1: our backs? What are what our backs can do this year?
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see um because I really haven't seen him.
Speaker 1: I probably saw him and didn't know who he was.
Speaker 1: And he's got it. He got a great personality. He
Speaker 1: he is really good. But let's just say this, because
Speaker 1: I know we're we're talking rookies right now, I'm expecting
Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake, if he stays oh to have monster season,
Speaker 1: breakout season. I mean, Kenyan Drake is now in prime
Speaker 1: years of his career and he had just enough success
Speaker 1: to get real hungry this year. Hey, guys, correct me
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. Though, the last five or six weeks,
Speaker 1: whenever Kenyan took over and was the starter and played
Speaker 1: the whole time, he had the most yards of anybody
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. I think past receiver against Patriots,
Speaker 1: he got match up one on one on their linebackers
Speaker 1: and chew them up. And look and there there's another
Speaker 1: guy that, uh, when you see him, he's working his
Speaker 1: ass off. Man, he's not, he's not. You know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing now, uh Facebook, Jory Valdez.
Speaker 1: This fan base wants instant gratification. Takes time to build
Speaker 1: a team, and that's exactly what they're doing. I agree
Speaker 1: with that, and I just you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen this year with this football team. I
Speaker 1: don't know what how many games are gonna win. And again,
Speaker 1: like when coach Gay was here, we trying to look.
Speaker 1: These games come down to the last drive, you stop them,
Speaker 1: or they kick a field goal or score touchdown, and
Speaker 1: that that decides the game. So it's very tight. But
Speaker 1: I like the direction they're going in. They may not
Speaker 1: be a great team this year, but I think he's
Speaker 1: building a really nice foundation of what this team is
Speaker 1: going to be And I wouldn't be shocked at all
Speaker 1: if this team doesn't surprise us and and the rest
Speaker 1: of the country with what they do this year, because
Speaker 1: I just think the type of guys, the players, they've
Speaker 1: they've plugged a lot of holes with players. Now, if
Speaker 1: they produce, and then who knows where they go. Take
Speaker 1: the teams out of the equation with a premier, elite quarterback,
Speaker 1: and you can you can make a guess preseason on
Speaker 1: where they're gonna be. You just don't know. We didn't
Speaker 1: know two years ago that our team was gonna win
Speaker 1: so many points to side games decided by four points
Speaker 1: or three points or less. He end up getting it
Speaker 1: ten wins. Last year. We didn't think Ryan was gonna
Speaker 1: go down and it was gonna be abysmal in terms
Speaker 1: of being able to get stability at that position. You
Speaker 1: don't know. You don't know until the team lines up
Speaker 1: and plays, but you can guarantee one thing. You said
Speaker 1: it best bow games are gonna come down to either
Speaker 1: stopping somebody in the last possession, kicking a field goal
Speaker 1: to win, kicking a field goal to tie, or getting
Speaker 1: a first down or a score to win in a
Speaker 1: high percentage of those games. Well, he's got the guys
Speaker 1: he likes more than ever before. And it starts out
Speaker 1: here with this group right now. And uh, listen, both
Speaker 1: they're talking playoffs. I mean they're not just with hey,
Speaker 1: let's try to get better so our fan base feels better.
Speaker 1: May they're talking about playoffs in that room. I think
Speaker 1: what I like about what they're doing is they're not
Speaker 1: I don't think they're building I'd say Gays and and
Speaker 1: and Greer and tannem baumb I don't think they're building
Speaker 1: a football team to get in the playoffs every now
Speaker 1: and then you know, I can try to put that
Speaker 1: football team that's gonna that's gonna be there every year
Speaker 1: and challenge and be one of those upper echelon teams.
Speaker 1: And I just hope the fan base. If it's not
Speaker 1: this year, but it's next up the fan base because
Speaker 1: you know how it is, they start beating the drums
Speaker 1: after after three years with a coach, I'll get these guys,
Speaker 1: this guy can't coach, get him out of here. And
Speaker 1: then and then you do, you get out of there
Speaker 1: and you take three steps back. And so at some
Speaker 1: point this franchise has to look at their coach and go,
Speaker 1: this is our guy. We're gonna let him get this
Speaker 1: team where he wants. If it takes him two years,
Speaker 1: three years, five years, whatever, we're gonna give him the opportunity.
Speaker 1: There are certain numbers you want to want to score,
Speaker 1: and I want to be entertained. I don't no different.
Speaker 1: None of you guys don't want to get entertained. It together, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to struggle. Bottom line is winning. You
Speaker 1: want to win. You want to you want to have
Speaker 1: the expectation of going in every Sunday or Monday night
Speaker 1: or Thursday night. You want to be able to know that, hey,
Speaker 1: I've got a chance to win this game, no matter
Speaker 1: who they're planning. Right, Yeah, walk on the I mean
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's a great thing in the NFL
Speaker 1: to be a team when you walk into a stadium,
Speaker 1: you know, you don't what we're gonna win. We're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna gonna and when you're then when you lose,
Speaker 1: you're like shock, well, yea, how that happened? You know,
Speaker 1: And that's where they need to get to. Thomas died.
Speaker 1: Facebook Defense didn't sign any impact players this year, just
Speaker 1: a few average, average ones mostly two. In terms of
Speaker 1: Pro bowlers, Uh, there were more on the team last year.
Speaker 1: Dolphins aren't getting the playoffs. We will probably finish just
Speaker 1: under five hundred. Again, nice to have you with us, Thomas, appreciate,
Speaker 1: appreciate the other. I think they've done some pretty good things.
Speaker 1: I think they they've They've brought in a lot of depth.
Speaker 1: I think the secondary's got depth, certainly, the defensive front
Speaker 1: has depth. Offensive line. I think you gotta feel is
Speaker 1: is you know, is an improvement? A lot of questions,
Speaker 1: I don't you know, they think they got to impact
Speaker 1: defensive rookies first and second round. They feel nobody wants
Speaker 1: to come out and say they think is sick. He
Speaker 1: didn't catch a lot of I don't. I don't doubt that.
Speaker 1: He didn't come in here to look real pretty and
Speaker 1: we're pin State T shirts. No, he came in here
Speaker 1: to catch the rock, no doubt. So I look, you
Speaker 1: you can, you can? You know, we'll see you have
Speaker 1: those in the radio every now and nail do I
Speaker 1: live with him but Facebook, Michael Budwick, I think my
Speaker 1: I think Minka is the next Ed Reid. Uh. He
Speaker 1: and Rashaw Jones instantly form is one of the best
Speaker 1: safety duos in the NFL. You can't forget t J
Speaker 1: McMillan or t J mont donald McDon McDonald back there.
Speaker 1: Pick was an absolute steal, and him, McMillan, and Jerome
Speaker 1: Baker should all be Day one starters and leaders for
Speaker 1: the next five to ten years. I agree with the
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I agree with that, and I
Speaker 1: agree with the fact that you would you put Gasecki
Speaker 1: in there. He could be your tied in front. He
Speaker 1: will take four years, take three or four years to
Speaker 1: turn this. You know what's funny now, because out you
Speaker 1: gotta start looking at these guys and you can't years. No,
Speaker 1: you can't best more. I don't know why everybody says that.
Speaker 1: You know, the draft guys always say that too, like
Speaker 1: you're lining him up at tackle. You got him. He's
Speaker 1: your guy for ten years. And he may be a
Speaker 1: guy for ten years. He may still be paying for him.
Speaker 1: He may still be paying for him in an injury,
Speaker 1: or he got too good and you can't afford to
Speaker 1: keep me. I don't know about keeping him for ten years.
Speaker 1: Let's take a year by year and maybe three years
Speaker 1: or four years at the most. That's good speaking of
Speaker 1: We're gonna wind us up with David Johnson from Facebook.
Speaker 1: I think my favorite pick in the draft was Gasecky
Speaker 1: out of Penn State. Glad we finally got a big body,
Speaker 1: pass catching tight end. I couldn't be more agreeable with that.
Speaker 1: When when I heard that uh I was out in
Speaker 1: an event, when I heard they they drafted Goosecki, I
Speaker 1: went behind the wall and started jumping up and down.
Speaker 1: I was so happy. I said, finally, finally that guy
Speaker 1: we talking about him umping down about we need to
Speaker 1: get a guy like that, and I was afraid. I
Speaker 1: was so afraid that Dolphin is gonna try to grab
Speaker 1: one in the third round if you got your guy.
Speaker 1: And Chris Career heard, he said, hey, you want Adam,
Speaker 1: you want your tight end. Let's chump up and get
Speaker 1: him right now. You love Gasicki, he's there. There was
Speaker 1: three elite past catching tight ends, and we got one
Speaker 1: of them, okay, in the in this traff and we
Speaker 1: needed to get one of them. And we backed him
Speaker 1: up with a guy that I think is underrated, that
Speaker 1: can do a lot more than what he was asked
Speaker 1: to do. It Notre Dame in smite. It's funny because
Speaker 1: if you talk to those two guys, and I talked
Speaker 1: to both of them, and Gasecki has says, you know,
Speaker 1: everyone tells me I can't block, I can block. I
Speaker 1: can block, you know, And then you talked to to
Speaker 1: to smythe ever says I can't cat, so I can
Speaker 1: can I can catch cat, I can run. They said, no, wait,
Speaker 1: I can do everything I can do. Listen, you know
Speaker 1: who I trust the most, Jerome Baker because he played
Speaker 1: against probably both, no doubt about it. All right, that's
Speaker 1: gonna do it for the program today. I want to
Speaker 1: thank everyone that's that's been listening to the programs. Uh,
Speaker 1: you can catch Them's a lot of good places to
Speaker 1: catch these things. But I'm starting to kind of run
Speaker 1: out of gas on these things. I forget it. Where
Speaker 1: I figere where you can get them, Joe, you gotta
Speaker 1: tell me where we can find it working. I like
Speaker 1: Apple Music, but I'm not afraid to go to Dolphins
Speaker 1: dot com. I'm gonna I'm gonna call BS on you
Speaker 1: because you don't have an iPhone. Bro, you got no, no, no,
Speaker 1: but somebody in the family has one daughters, somebody, But
Speaker 1: it just because you don't have an iPhone doesn't mean
Speaker 1: you can't with somewhere else or somewhere else, you know,
Speaker 1: old school goals. Dolphins mobile app is a good one.
Speaker 1: Dolphins dot com, Dolphins dot com. It's always the same.
Speaker 1: That's where I go. You know, sometimes I just go
Speaker 1: to tune in radio. In radio, just tune in because
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot there's a lot of different
Speaker 1: You can catch a lot of your own podcast on
Speaker 1: tune in radio. But I don't give a shit about
Speaker 1: the other ones. I just listened to ours. Joe, what
Speaker 1: time you playing tennis today? That's the case. That's the
Speaker 1: case because I didn't know what I mean. We're blasi.
Speaker 1: You can go before you had to go warm up
Speaker 1: or something. You bust jumping up there. Man, those fussy balls,
Speaker 1: those green balls. Oh yeah, get out and play it
Speaker 1: for Tommy Clarks. Who are you going out against today.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say. I don't want to take any shots.
Speaker 1: I know he's playing, you know, Joe's stepping his game up.
Speaker 1: He's playing Barry Jackson the s. That's gonna do it
Speaker 1: for a programmer to catch you next week.