1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Wika Epp Daily with 2 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody once again recording from the 3 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Bunker. Folks, there is a bit of good news 4 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: which I don't often get to share with all of you, 5 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: so I want to start off the show on this 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: good Monday with that good bit of good news. Omicron 7 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: is on the decline in many of the states that 8 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: it started to take over, namely in New York where 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: I am. We are seeing decreases across the country, which 10 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: is amazing and amazing, even though there have been more 11 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: hospitalizations than in twenty twenty and in twenty twenty one, 12 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: and we are still losing roughly two thousand Americans a 13 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: day to this virus, where we have a preventable way 14 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: to deal with it, with the vaccine, with the boosters, 15 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: even the news that there are there is a stealth 16 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: variant which is according to the CDC and the WHO, 17 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: a variant of interest, but not a variant of concern. 18 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: Yet they're calling it a stealth variant, which you may 19 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: have heard on the news because it is hard to detect, 20 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: meaning that the rapid tests that we're using, the home 21 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: tests that we're using are not picking up this variant. 22 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: So what we do know is that this stealth variant 23 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: is one that is not easily detectable. But according to 24 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: the doctors right now that if in fact, you are 25 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: vaccinated and you are boosted right now, it seems that, 26 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: guess what, you won't get that sick, and you won't 27 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: be hospitalized and you won't die. So again, we know 28 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,919 Speaker 1: this from the patterns that we've been seeing since twenty 29 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: twenty through now for two years. Right that we started 30 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 1: with the alpha. Several months later there was delta, several 31 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: months later there was omicron. So we cannot just assume 32 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: right now because we see these decreases happening that that 33 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: means that, oh, we're all in the clear. Follow the patterns, 34 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: and the patterns show us that they will most likely 35 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: be another variant at some point right in the next 36 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: several months. And so what should people be doing? Get 37 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: your booster If you haven't gotten your booster shot, If 38 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: you have family members and friends that have still not 39 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: gotten the vaccine, and you're walking around with the vaccine, 40 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: haven't lost an eye, haven't lost a limb, nothing is 41 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: wrong with you. Encourage them to do so. But do 42 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: not put yourself in harm's away. Do not raise your 43 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: blood pressure and put yourself in fight mode in order 44 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: to deal with these people. Offer the information they know 45 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: where to get it if they still choose not to 46 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: go with God. But I will say that when I 47 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: see the green across our states, with the decrease in 48 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: the numbers, I have my shoulders. You dropped down a 49 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: little bit, But I got to tell you that I'm 50 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: still on edge. I had a conversation that I actually 51 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: want to share with all of you with my therapist, 52 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: because last week I went back into studio for two 53 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: days for specials for my other podcast, Democracy Ish, and 54 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: I hadn't been on the subway since late November, hadn't 55 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: been around of any groups of people. I've only done 56 00:03:55,080 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: one on ones in my home, and I realize that 57 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: I have become a bit agoraphobic. Right leaving my house. 58 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: I realize that there are days and when I say days, three, 59 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: four or five days that go by and I realize 60 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: that I haven't left, And then when I do, there 61 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: is this sense of fear right that the outside and 62 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: outside people outside of my COVID pods, outside of all 63 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: are dangerous. So my therapist said to me, you know, 64 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: I have been hearing this a lot, and I want 65 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: to tell you that it is becoming the norm. But 66 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: in order for it to not just become a normal 67 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: part of your personality, take walks. You know. I know 68 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: that it's winter, seeing I'm a huge walker, but in 69 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: all of the seasons except for when it's twenty degrees outside, 70 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: which it has been in New York. She's like, just 71 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: go for a walk around your block and then come 72 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: back in. Just take in some fresh air. You know 73 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: you will feel better your body, thank you, Just so 74 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: that you're not asking yourself when you're throwing out the garbage, 75 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: when was the last time that I was outside? And 76 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: that is kind of where I have been, And so 77 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: I offer that and share it because I know that 78 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: I'm not the only one that has been feeling this way. 79 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: That if you are working from home and and you're 80 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: at home, if you're working from there, if you have 81 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: a spouse or a partner and they're also working from 82 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: home and you're just staring at each other all day, 83 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: every day, there is this monotony, this feeling of groundhogs 84 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: day that becomes really overwhelming at times. And so to 85 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: take those breaks to go for a walk. So I 86 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: offered that to all of you as we are beginning 87 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: to see the decrease because we reach such an extraordinary peak, 88 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: I mean where you're looking at six and seven hundred 89 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: thousand people a day we're becoming infected. So there is 90 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: good news on the horizon. But I would say, while 91 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: COVID tests are back in stock in your local pharmacies 92 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: and online, buy them so that you just have them 93 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: at home, that while there is chlorox and things like that, 94 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: just I'm not saying to hoard them. I'm saying have 95 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: a supply so that when we do reach another variant 96 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: and we want to be doing testing and we want 97 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: to be safe, that we don't have the sense of 98 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: panic that we did over the holiday season. So I 99 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: offered that bit of good news and kind of a 100 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: mixed bag. I gotta tell you that the end of 101 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: last week, I felt like I was living inside of 102 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: an article in the Onion headlines across the screen. Joe 103 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: Biden heads to Pennsylvania to talk infrastructure as bridge collapses. 104 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: This country is literally crumbling. Biden was on his way 105 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: to someplace in Pennsylvania and right before he gets there 106 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: an entire fucking bridge collapses. Thank god, as far as 107 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: reports had shown that no one died. But if you 108 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: saw the pictures or the video, there were cars, buses 109 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: right that were trapped now on this collapse bridge. And 110 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: I want to just you know, Biden then would give 111 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: an impassioned speech last week Friday, he would give this 112 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: impassioned speech where he's angry and we need to fix 113 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: these things and we can do it. And I'm just like, 114 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: if you're not given that speech to Mansion, right, the 115 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: man who didn't want to do infrastructure, if you're not 116 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: talking about these things to him and Carsten Cinema, then 117 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: what difference does it make? Right? Like, what difference does 118 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: it make? I'm tired of speeches like, literally, you're seeing 119 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: bridges collapse. We will see more of that. We will 120 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: see roads cave in, we will see tunnels breakdown. But 121 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: so long as Republicans are able to put money in 122 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: their pocket and the likes of Joe Manchon and Kursten 123 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: Cinema are able to do the same, who gives a 124 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: fuck about the rest of America. We're supposedly right, Oh, 125 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: we're this best nation and we have shit collapsing in 126 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: the area that the President is going to visit. And this, 127 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: of course, as reports say, this bridge has been rusting 128 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: out for years and years and years, but we haven't 129 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: done anything to fix it. And so here is where 130 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: we are. You know, the same pictures you could see 131 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: that in the storm that hit New York caused several 132 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: months ago, where again on the news you're looking inside 133 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: of subway stations and it was torrential downpour and it 134 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: looks like a fucking geyser is going is happening. But 135 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: that's our public transit that millions of people have to 136 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: use every single day. And we've been told for I 137 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: don't know how many decades, Oh, we're going to fix 138 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: the subway system. The subways are fucking built here in 139 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: like the early twentieth century and they haven't had any improvements. Right, 140 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: we get new cars, but not new tracks, not new tunnels. 141 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 1: So just think about this like we are. So we 142 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: were so unprepared for a health pandemic because of our 143 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: bullshit healthcare system. Right, you see why Asian countries were 144 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: better prepared to do contact tracing and other places like that, 145 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: because they have prepared. They used stars right as their 146 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: indicator of things that need to get done. But in America, 147 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: all we do is react, right, and it has to 148 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: happen right in front of our fucking faces in order 149 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: for anything to get done. Because you could have looked 150 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: at what had been going on in China and said, 151 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, if that happened in the United States, we'd 152 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: be fucked and you would be right, but they would 153 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: do nothing about it. It's just it's so frustrating and 154 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: it's so obvious. But once again, what do we do. Nope, 155 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: ain't got money, ain't got money for the poor, ain't 156 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: got money for bridges. But we will give the Pentagon 157 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars over what they ask for. 158 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: They're the only ones that are flush. Meanwhile, is the 159 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: Pentagon helping support your kids? Is the Pentagon making sure 160 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: that you can get to work every day? No, it's not. 161 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: But that's where all your fucking money is going. It's disgusting. 162 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: Coming up in the show today is a really great 163 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: conversation with our friend MSNBC legal analysts and host of 164 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: Justice Matters, Glenn Kirshner. And you know, Glenn is going 165 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: to break down where we are with the latest round 166 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: of insurrectionists with Bill Barr apparently complying with the one 167 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: six commission, and what does that actually mean? John Eastman 168 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: bragging about the fact that he pled the fifth over 169 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: a hundred times, and what does that mean, and whether 170 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: or not we are actually getting close right to anyone 171 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: at the high level of the insurrection planning, if we're 172 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: getting close to them actually going down. The funny thing 173 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: in the discussion with Glenn with regard to Eastman is 174 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: Eastman pulled the same shit about his PowerPoint presentation, like, Oh, 175 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: I don't know why anybody's taking this seriously. It wasn't 176 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: a big deal, it wasn't meant to do anything. It's 177 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: just for entertainment. It's just for bullshit. Blah blah, blah, 178 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: blah blah. This is the same fucking excuse if you remember, 179 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: and I'll bring it up in the interview that Fox 180 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: News said when Tucker Carlson was being sued, No one 181 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: considers Tucker Carlson news. He's just entertainment. And the question 182 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: that I asked to Glenn, and the question that I 183 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: ask all the fucking time, is then why don't we 184 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: have the FCC, which loves to regulate nudity and smoking 185 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: and this, that and the other thing on all of 186 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: your movies and series that we all binge watch. Why 187 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: aren't they doing that with Fox News right to ensure 188 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: that people recognize that the information that you were about 189 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: to consume is for your entertainment, not for your education. 190 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: I think that that would go a long way to 191 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: all of their Fox viewers that if the federal government decides, oh, yes, 192 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: this isn't real news. You mean, it's just like cotton 193 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: candy for my fucking brain. Yeah, then maybe they wouldn't 194 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: listen to everything that he says and take it as gospel. Folks, 195 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: this month has been the longest the first month of January. 196 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: January always fine to be the longest month, but also 197 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: it just feels like twenty twenty two is going to 198 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: be a really aggressive year. So as I do and 199 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: say all of the time, please make sure that you 200 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: were taking time for yourself each and every day, whether 201 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: it's a walk around the block or walk around your neighborhood, 202 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: going out into your backyard, doing a stretch of meditation, gardening, 203 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: taking your dogs, grandchildren, anyone, right, but just make sure 204 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: that you were taking good care of your mental emotional 205 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: physical health on a daily basis, because you know, the 206 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: more that I speak with my therapist who also knows, 207 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: you know, what I do for a living, obviously, she's like, 208 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, people are unwell, They're not well, but the 209 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: good news is is that a lot of folks are 210 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: seeking help. And the funny thing she said to me 211 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: is just like she said, your business is busy right now, 212 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: so is mine. And I'm like, what does that even 213 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: say that I'm busy as I followed the news and 214 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: follow politics and society and culture on a regular basis. 215 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: And she's busy because people are at their wits fucking end, 216 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: feeling alone, feeling isolated, feeling all of the things. So 217 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: please do make sure you take good care of yourself. 218 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: Coming up next is my conversation with our friend Glenn Kirshner. Folks, 219 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: you know that I am always so excited when our 220 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: friend MSNBC legal analysts and the host of Justice Matters. 221 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: I'm Glenn Kirshner, Jen Kershner. This is where I am today. 222 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: Glenn Kershner joins us each and every week to walk 223 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: us through the tangled web of lies and criminality that 224 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: the Trump administrat former Trump administration continues to weave. Glenn. 225 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: You know, every week we have been talking about the 226 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: insurrectionists and the one six committee. This week is not 227 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: going to be any different. Tell us the latest. Where 228 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: we are, if one again one of the high profile insurrectionists, 229 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: but we're not at the big fish yet, We're still 230 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: at these fairly low level folks. One of them was 231 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: just denied the ability to wait for his trial at 232 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: home and is finally, you know, being treated like an 233 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: actual criminal, one that tried to overthrow the government. Tell 234 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: Us where we are with Elmer Rhodes and his prosecution. Yeah, 235 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: so Elmer, of course he keeps calling himself Stuart Rhodes, 236 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: but his name is Elmer Stuart Rhodes. He reportedly hates 237 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: the name Elmer. So, with apologies to all of the 238 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: Elmers out there, Fudd and the others, let's take a 239 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: deep dive on this guy. Why, Because one he's the 240 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: head of the Oathkeepers. That's going to tell us something 241 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: about the Oathkeepers organization. And two he's Donald Trump's kind 242 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: of guys. So let's see what we learned in court 243 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: this week about Elmer Rhodes. Now, remember he's the guy 244 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: who famously is wearing the eyepad. He's like an aspiring pirate. 245 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: And the interesting piece about it is, I saw some 246 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: reporting that I lost j Danielley there. Yep, I'm here. Okay, 247 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: your picture just went out of me. Yeah, so if 248 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: you can't see, but I'm still here, ye okay. There's 249 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: been some reporting that he was like kind of a 250 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: half of firearms instructor somewhere and he shot his own 251 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: eye out, So you know, Ralphie from the Christmas Story 252 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: would laugh at this guy. He also went to Yale, 253 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: but was disbarred as a lawyer in two thousand and seven. 254 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: He also hasn't paid his federal income taxes since two 255 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: thousand and seven. Here's the most horrific piece of who 256 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: Elmer Rhodes is. His own wife testified against him at 257 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: the preliminary hearing, saying, among other things, he is violent 258 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: and tried to control my behavior using firearms. He abused 259 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: the beat our six children. I am scared to death 260 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: of him. And also he had a series of escape 261 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: tunnels buried in his backyard. That wasn't just her saying 262 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: that that was presented by the prosecutors as a matter 263 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: of fact. So he's wait, I'm sorry, what tunnels from 264 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: his households had a series of escape tunnels built in 265 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: underground in his backyard. Feels to me like he's also 266 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: a flight risk and a danger to the community, which 267 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: are the two reasons a judge can detain somebody jailed 268 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: somebody pending trial. And the judge ordered that Elmer would 269 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: be jailed pending trial. Here's the other. So this is 270 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: the head he has no fixed addressed by the way, 271 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: once is a strange wife kicked him out. This is 272 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: the head of the oath Keepers, oath Keeper's leadership, and 273 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: this is Donald Trump's kind of guy. So let's just 274 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: understand what we're dealing with here with respect to the 275 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: foot soldiers of the insurrection. And you're absolutely right, Danielle, 276 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: they're still on the lower level, but with taking down 277 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: guys like the head of the oath Keepers, we are 278 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: at the top rung of the lowest level criminal food chain. 279 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: We're still working up. We are working up. Here's the 280 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: other thing I want to just share with your viewers 281 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: about the seditious Conspiracy investigation. It's being headed up by 282 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: a prosecutor named Katherine Rakozzi, an assistant United States Attorney 283 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: at the DCUs Attorney's office. Kate is somebody that I 284 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: brought to the homicide section when I was chief. I 285 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: tried Kate's first murder trial with her. And let me 286 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: reassure the American people they will be extraordinarily well represented 287 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: by a USA Kate Rakozi heading up the seditious conspiracy investigation. 288 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: She's a public servants, public servant. She's fearless, she is 289 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: a hammer in a velvet glove. And I am so 290 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: comforted knowing that she's had up that prosecution team. Um 291 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: that I just wanted to share that with everybody. So 292 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: I think on the seditious conspiracy piece against the oat keepers, 293 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: we are moving in the right direction. So that was 294 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: some good news. So, you know, a couple of things 295 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: about Elmer Stewart Rhodes that that I want to dig into, 296 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: because again, you know, Donald Trump, to your point, only 297 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: surrounds himself with the best people, right, and it seems 298 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: like every lawyer that he has surrounded himself with has 299 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: either been this barred, is on their way to being 300 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: this barred, has lost their license, or is laughed at 301 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: among their colleagues. So um, you know what was interesting 302 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: is that when the media was talking initially about Rhodes Is. 303 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: Of course they led with the fact that he is 304 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: this scholar from Yale. Right, so you're telling me that 305 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: he went to Yale. Okay, yes, um? But then he 306 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: lost his law license in two thousand seven. Do we 307 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: know why he was disbarked? Do we know why? Court? 308 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: In the court filings and part of the judge's findings 309 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: in the case seventeen page findings. I recommend everybody read 310 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: it if they have a few minutes. The judge found 311 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: that he was disbarred in two thousand and seven. There 312 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: is no more talk in the court papers. But I'm 313 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,719 Speaker 1: sure you know, if we had some good Internet sleuths 314 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: out there, they could pretty easily figure out because those 315 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: are generally public records when somebody becomes disbarked why he 316 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: was disbarked. And you know, and you're a lawyer, so 317 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: just you know, and I know that you don't know 318 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: the jurisdiction for for for every single state, But in 319 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: order to be disbarred, right, like, tell me about some 320 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: of the things that you would have to do in 321 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: order to to lose that license. Being disbarred is a 322 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: lot like getting fired from the federal government. I've often 323 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 1: said tongue in cheek that if you kill one person 324 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: the federal government puts on probation, kill another, you're in trouble. 325 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: The same holds true. The same holds true with state 326 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: bar counsel. Why because attorneys protect attorneys, politicians protect politicians. Yep, 327 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: it's sad, but it's state of affairs in America. So 328 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: to get disbarred, there are so many lesser sanctions than disbarment. 329 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: There's letters of reprimand there's a suspension from the practice 330 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: of law for a period of time. There are fines 331 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: that can be imposed. There are requirements that you repay 332 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: a client if you have stolen your client's money, which 333 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: I have to say is the lion's share of how 334 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: attorneys get in trouble. They don't have appropriate escrow accounts 335 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: for client funds, or they just outright steal them, like 336 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: Michael Abnati did to Stormy Daniels. So there are probably 337 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: ten lesser punishments that can and often are imposed against 338 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: lawyers who do wrong before disbarment. Disbarment is like the 339 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,959 Speaker 1: mother of all punishment, and it takes a lot to 340 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: get disbarred. So I would love to know why. I 341 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: just haven't had time to go into it why he 342 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: was disbarred, because I promise you it was for dramatic misconduct. Huh. Okay, 343 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: all right, So moving on from Stewart, we know that 344 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: he is reprimanded to jail awaiting his trial. Do we 345 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: know around about when that trial will begin because we 346 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: know that everything. Oh July, okay, great summer. It's a 347 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: tentative trial date, and there's a backup trial date set 348 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: farther down the road. And can I just tell you, 349 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: because this is not intuitive, one of the reasons these 350 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: trials are going to be pushed off into the future. 351 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 1: One that's just federal prosecution, you know, business as usual, 352 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: unfortunately from my perspective. But the second is what's called 353 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: the Brady challenge. So Brady is a Supreme Court case 354 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: that says the prosecutors have to give give over every 355 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: piece of information that could potentially help the defendant, that 356 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: is exculpatory that the defendant might want to use in 357 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: their defense. And right now we have I don't know 358 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: how many terabytes. I don't know what a terabyte is, 359 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: lots of lots of the locks. I really don't yeh, 360 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: hurts and make sure that makes your giga hurts. I 361 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: don't know what that means either, I'm un joked on 362 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: this morning, Danielle. I'm sorry. So, but there's so much 363 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: information that the prosecutors have that has to be provided 364 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: to the defense, literally like millions and millions of data 365 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: hours that they have to pour through, and so making 366 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: sure they get everything, every bit of electronic information that 367 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: the prosecutors have that might help the defendant defend himself 368 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: in court. I welcome and embrace the Brady requirement because 369 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: that's how we give people fair trials, and everybody, including Elmer, 370 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: deserves a fair trial. So yeah, it's going to take 371 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: some time. These trial dates are going to be pushed 372 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: off into the future. People are going to be very upset, 373 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: my self included, because it's it's justice delayed. But it 374 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: is also making sure that the defendants have everything the 375 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: Constitution demands before they are made to go to trial. Okay, 376 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: all right. Pivoting now to the one six Committee and 377 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: where they are. So News of course breaks and says 378 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 1: that America's worst former AG Bill Barr is quote cooperating 379 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: with the committee. Now, my god, Glenn, over the last 380 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: two plus years. You and I have laid out multiple 381 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: ways in which Bill Barr should be in federal prison. Right, Like, 382 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: the man was operating as Donald Trump's personal attorney when 383 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: he was supposed to be the attorney for all of America. 384 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: He created mechanisms that would ensure that whatever was coming 385 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: out in the Muller Report, he was like, oh, there's 386 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: nothing here, right, remember his four page press conference. I mean, 387 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: jaw dropping, right. But again, the lie will get around 388 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: the corner before the truth even gets out the door. 389 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: And that is what Bill Barr and the Trump administration 390 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: knew and used all the time. So now he's cooperating, Why, Glenn, 391 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: Why to try to save his own skin? So and 392 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: I have to add to your parade of horrible, Danielle, 393 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: that Bill bar corrupted the Department of Justice and weaponized 394 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: it to help Donald Trump's criminal associates like Mike Flynn 395 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: and Rogerstone and punished Donald Trump's perceived enemies like Andrew 396 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: McCabe and Michael Cohen. So everything that man did cries out, 397 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: you know, for a need for accountability and prosecution of 398 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: Bill Barr. But here's what's going on. In my estimation, 399 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: we're reading he leaves a little bit. But Bill Barr 400 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: is cooperating. What does that mean. Well, first of all, 401 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: Bill Barr resigned on December team, two days before the 402 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: draft executive order by which Donald Trump was going to 403 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: direct the military to cease unlawfully sees state property, all 404 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: electronic voting equipment, all voting machines that would have been unlawful. 405 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: I don't care what Richard Nixon said that if the 406 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: president does it, it's not illegal. That's nonsense. Bill Barr 407 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: got out right before everything was going to break really bad. 408 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: And what Bill Barr did was he took all of 409 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: that information about how democracy was about to be killed 410 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: or there was an attempted murder plot on our democracy, 411 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: and he kept it to himself. That's Bill Barr running 412 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: out of a burning building, leaving all the men, women 413 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: and children inside when he absolutely could have saved them, 414 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: or could have done something to save them, he didn't. 415 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: He's despicable. He's an enemy of the state, period, and 416 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: he needs to be held accountable, not for political reasons, 417 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: but because he violated the law in any number of ways. 418 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: But how Select Committee is welcoming him, welcoming him in 419 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: with open arms. Well, Bill come tell us what you 420 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,959 Speaker 1: know about Donald Trump. Now, I suspect that part of 421 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: that is the fact that the enemy of my enemy 422 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: is my friend. So if Bill Barr has incriminating information 423 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,239 Speaker 1: about Donald Trump, I would want it as well as 424 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: a prosecutor, and I'm sure the House Select Committee wants 425 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: it for purposes of its investigation. Now, they will have 426 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: to keep their questioning of Bill Barr very narrow so 427 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: as to avoid Bill from having to in the vocus 428 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: fifth Amendment right against self incrimination, which he absolutely has 429 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: in any number of ways. But I think they want 430 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: that information that could incriminate Donald Trump, and they have 431 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: to navigate Bill Barr in a way that allows them 432 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 1: to get that information. And it gives the illusion like 433 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: Bill Barr is cooperating. But Bill Barr is not cooperating 434 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: at a sense of civic duty or a sense of patriotism, 435 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: or a desire to see Donald Trump and his criminal 436 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: associates held accountable. He's cooperating if at all, to save 437 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: his own skin. If I were dealing with Bill Barr 438 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: as a federal prosecutor, he would be cooperating as well, 439 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: because he would be indicted for all of his crimes 440 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: and then I would flip him. That is how Bill 441 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: Barr ought to be cooperating. I just you know, Glenn, 442 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: I still really do not understand with the mountain with 443 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: the everest of mountains of documentation of Bill Barr's own words. 444 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: I remember his CBS interview, right, you remember his CBS 445 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: the CBS interview where he was like, well, I don't care, 446 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm old and I'm retiring. So basically, everybody, right, my legacy, 447 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: what about your legacy? It doesn't matter, right, slide and 448 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: done a lot wrong and exactly so. So do we 449 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: believe that this person who when national television instead basically 450 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: I don't give a damn right. Do we think that 451 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: he honestly would flip against Donald Trump to save himself 452 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: from dying in prison. I do believe he would. Of course, 453 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: the House Select Committee doesn't have the ability to write 454 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: him in prison unless he know thumbs his nose at 455 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: a subpoena and they decided to use their power of 456 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: inherent content. How likely is that we can maybe talk 457 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: about New Gingrich in a minute, because he delivered a 458 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: gift to the Democrats. But no, I don't believe Bill 459 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: Barr is being forthcoming for any reason other than he 460 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: thinks it's in Bill Barr's interest to be forthcoming. And 461 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: here's the thing, Danielle, think about the people who are 462 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: not cooperating with the J six Committee. Mark Meadows, who 463 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: still needs to be criminally indicted, and hopefully he will 464 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: be now that the Supreme Court has shot down Donald 465 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: Trump's executive privilege claim. You know Jim Jordan, Scott Perry, 466 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: the cover Up Caucus, you know who they kid, Kevin 467 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: McCarthy and John Eastman, a few of these other idiots. 468 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: But more than four hundred people are cooperating and have 469 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: testified and have prevent that presented documentary evidence. So think 470 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: about the small slice of people who are not cooperating. 471 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: You know what the House Select Committee has on Bill 472 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: Barr right now? From those four hundred people, they have 473 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds I suspect of electronic communications where Bill 474 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: Barr was caught saying X, Y and Z to people. 475 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: And that's hard evidence that they can bring in Bill 476 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: Barr and confront him with and say, okay, Bill, here's 477 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: your email saying you're going to do X, Y and Z. 478 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: Here's your email received from Mark Meadows, Kevin McCarthy saying X, Y, 479 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: and Z, we got you. You want it, you want 480 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: to cooperate, at least in a limited way. That's kind 481 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: of where they are with the bill bars of the 482 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: world and the handful of other people who are bucking 483 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: their subpoenas, they're going to be on the losing end. 484 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: Those people are going to be on the losing end 485 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: at the end of the day. So you know, I'm 486 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: the last one to say be patient. I lose my 487 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: patience every minute of every day, and then I try 488 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: to take myself back down off the ledge and look 489 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: for signs of hope. So you know, I still think 490 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: we're going to get there. I know that rings hollow, 491 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: and I know it feels like the voice crying wolf, 492 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: but I think we're going to get there, all right. 493 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: So let's go to John Eastman, right, my favorite idiot 494 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: who just goes on television, just says a lot of things, 495 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: brag about the over one hundred times that he played 496 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: the fifth. How is it that you plead the fifth 497 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: and then you go on television, you go on podcasts 498 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: and you say, oh, I did it one hundred and 499 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: forty times. Do innocent people do that? No? Because the 500 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: law regarding invocation of your Fifth Amendment right against self incrimination, 501 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: the law says you may not unless your truthful testimony 502 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: would actually incriminate. You would actually give the government, the 503 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: people interviewing or interrogating or deposing you give them information 504 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: that tended to show you committed a crime. Now, it's 505 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: a Fifth Amendment right, we all have it. I embrace it, 506 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: I support it. I'll fight for your right to invoke it. 507 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: But it does tell us something, right, It tells us 508 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: that John Eastman, very likely, by his own admission, committed 509 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: any number of crimes. And here's what and how does 510 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: he get to go on podcasts and get away with it. Well, 511 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: he hasn't been locked up for the crimes he committed. 512 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: Now maybe he will be in the future. I certainly 513 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: hope he will be. But that's how he gets to 514 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: do all this. It is by the Department of Justice 515 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: is in action at least thus far. But it's even 516 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: worse because he gave a Once he got caught with 517 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: that treasonous memo that he wrote how to for Fun 518 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: and Profit, he went on TV and he said, my memo, 519 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: my memo was a thought experiment, and anybody who took 520 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: my memo seriously is and I quote crazy. He is 521 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: trashing his own legal memo. What does that tell you 522 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: consciousness of guilt? He knows what treason is that memo is. 523 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: It's no different than Mark Meadows saying my book is 524 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: fake news. Mark Meadows went on air with Fox and 525 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: when confronted with passages in his book that were critical 526 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump, he said, oh, that's fake news. Dude. 527 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: They quoted you from your book. He's willing to emasculate 528 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: himself and say my own book is fake news. John 529 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: Eastman is willing to say my own memo is crazy. 530 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: But all of that is evidence that I would use 531 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: to incriminate them because it shows their consciousness of guilt. Danielle, 532 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: we just have to get these cases in front of 533 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: a jury. This is this, but this is the same 534 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: thing that essentially, you know, Fox News did when they 535 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: were brought in when they were bringing in Tucker Carlson. Oh, Tucker, 536 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: that's not news, it's entertainment. So how is it, Glenn, 537 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: that legally these people can continue to spread lies, write 538 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: trees in its memos, go on national television say all 539 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: of these things, rile up tens of thousands or in 540 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: the case of the number one podcaster or in the world, 541 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan rile up hundred million people and then turn 542 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: around and say, oh, well, no one should be listening 543 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: to me anyway. Where the hell is the FCC. If 544 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: that is actually the case, if it's just entertainment, then 545 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: why can't we slap stickers on their mouths that say 546 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 1: they're clowns? It's for entertainment. And to answer the question, 547 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: how can any of this this be done legally? It 548 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: can't be done legally. Ask the question if a bank 549 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: robber commits a bank robbery and the FEDS never bother 550 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: investigating and arresting the bank robber, how could the bank 551 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: robber have done it legally? The answer is the same. 552 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: They're not doing it legally. The question is when will 553 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: they be held accountable for what they're doing illegally? And 554 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: the FCC piece, which I love to talk about because 555 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: we're so afraid of regulating, legislating, and then litigating in 556 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: the First Amendment arena, right, Oh my goodness, the press 557 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: has a First Amendment right that we don't want to 558 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: trample on. That is what gives that fear and timidity, 559 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: and frankly it's a fear of failure, embarrassment, and criticism. 560 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 1: That fear and timidity is why the Fox propaganda network 561 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: gets to thrive because we don't do anything about it. 562 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: I've been saying all along, the FCC should regulate against it, 563 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: the Congress should legislate against it, and then when that 564 00:35:54,640 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: regulation and that legislation is challenged, we litigate our position 565 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: known that we're not going to tolerate Fox News doing 566 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: things that are inherently and imminently dangerous to our people. 567 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: But if we don't regulate and we don't legislate, and 568 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: then when it's attacked, we don't litigate and defend our position, 569 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: then Fox propaganda wins and Americans die. But we're so 570 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: afraid of criticism, and we're so timid, and we're so 571 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: concerned about somebody saying we're trampling on the First Amendment. 572 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: I love the First Amendment. I'll fight like hell for 573 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: your right even to stand up and spout things like, 574 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: you know your white supremacist nonsense, you're Nazi nonsense, you're 575 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, you have the right to talk about that, 576 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: even though you're a despicable human being. And I'm going 577 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: to fight to make sure, you're never in power, but 578 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,439 Speaker 1: as long as you're not inspiring imminent violence, we get 579 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: to talk, we get to speak our mind, but we don't. 580 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: If we don't regulate, legislate, and then litigate, we've already 581 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: lost and we're not even in the fight. So I 582 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: wish we had politicians Danielle who had the spine to 583 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: do these things, you know, because I just I'm so tired, Glenn. 584 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: I got to be honest, because you know, as I'm 585 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: listening to you too, I'm thinking about the fact that 586 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 1: Sarah Palin finds herself in my city right now, right 587 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 1: because of things that she said, the promotion that she did, 588 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: a violence on her own website, and then Gabby Gifford's 589 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: is shot, right, and other people are killed, and it's 590 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 1: just like, oh, but it's an NPR made a false 591 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: equivalency between what was put on her website and violence 592 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: that happened. Oh, Donald Trump can be up on a 593 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: stage saying go take your country back, fight, fight, fight, 594 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: and then there's an insurrection and oh, it was just 595 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: words like give me a break here at this point, 596 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: like do they need to be standing with the gun 597 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: in their hand? Do they need to be standing next 598 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: to the gallows in order for us to connect the 599 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: dots here legally and hold these people accountable. We're letting 600 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: the Nazis and the white supremacists and the xenophobic forces 601 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,879 Speaker 1: in this country win. We're letting them win because we're 602 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,919 Speaker 1: not fighting the fight. Why we're not fighting the fight, 603 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean embarrassment and timidity and fear 604 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: of loss in court answers the question, but not fully 605 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: to my satisfaction. I sure hope both parties aren't more 606 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: aligned than we know. I hope that's not you know, 607 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, I hope that's not true. I hope it's 608 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: just not about both sides keeping power. But I don't 609 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,240 Speaker 1: know it. You know, we're close to giving it all away, 610 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:52,919 Speaker 1: and you and I we're fighting every day, every every day. 611 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 1: The last thing before I let you go today. Obviously, 612 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: the news of Justice Bryer deciding to retire. This does 613 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 1: not equalize the conservative, radical Supreme Court that we have. 614 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: It is just basically a swap, a democratic swap. But 615 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: what do you make of the President's assertion once again 616 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: that the replacement will in fact be a black woman, 617 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,439 Speaker 1: that it's long overdue. Is this just you know, once 618 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: again pageantry and let me pat the community on my 619 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: head or does this actually have some merit? No, it's 620 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: not just pageantry. And for the President to say, you know, 621 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,959 Speaker 1: we have ignored segments of our population for sodang Long 622 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: and I am not going to allow that to continue. 623 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: And so I will nominate an imminently qualified African American 624 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: woman to be a Supreme Court justice that gives me 625 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: a quality goose bumps. Is it enough? No? Is it? 626 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: But is it important that now for all time? And 627 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: I get emotional because I have I raised five daughters, 628 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: they're all grown and we got the grandchildren rolling in now. 629 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: But I want to use another example of why I 630 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: think this is so important. I also have a son, 631 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: and I when I say things like anybody can be president, 632 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: that resonates with my son. I don't believe it resonates 633 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: with my daughters because they say, yeah, prove it, hold 634 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 1: one up, show me an example of a woman president, 635 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: and I can't. But you know what, any woman, any 636 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 1: African American woman, can be a Supreme Court Justice of 637 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: the United States, and can be vice president and hopefully 638 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 1: one day can also be president. But when we use 639 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: platitudes like that and trite sayings, let's go behind it 640 00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: and say, yeah, prove it. Joe Biden is proving it. 641 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: That is important. It's so important. Can I tell a 642 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: quick story. I had a ten year old so I 643 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 1: twenty two of my thirty years as a prosecutor, I 644 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: handled murder cases in Washington, DC. And I had a 645 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,439 Speaker 1: ten year old young man, his name was Chris, who 646 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: was an eyewitness to a horrific murder of a guy 647 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: who was kind of a local drug dealer in his neighborhood. 648 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 1: That Chris knew. Ten year old Chris knew because he 649 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,720 Speaker 1: you know, he would see him on the corner hustle 650 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: and every day when Chris would go to and from school. Unfortunately, 651 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: Chris witnessed the murder and he was one of the 652 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: only witnesses. And it always broke my heart when it 653 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 1: was children who got pulled into the violence in DC. 654 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,760 Speaker 1: The reality was I had to develop a relationship with Chris. 655 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: I had to ask him about this horrible thing he saw, 656 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: and then I had to prepare him to testify in 657 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 1: a public trial. Who wants to do that to a 658 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: ten year old? So Chris's mom brought him to my 659 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: office and I always, you know, because I have so 660 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 1: many kids myself, I spend a long long time in 661 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: the run up to having to ask the horrific question, now, Chris, 662 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 1: what did you see that day? So I spent a 663 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: lot of time trying to develop a relationship with him, 664 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: talk about school and his friends and his activities and 665 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: what he likes and how his teachers. And I have 666 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 1: standard lines that I throw out, as most parents and 667 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: grandparents will. I'm like, you know, so, Chris, who's your 668 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 1: who's your who's your teacher? My teacher is Miss Brown? 669 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 1: And Miss Brown, oh I heard she's kind of mean. 670 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: He's like, no, no, no, Miss I love Miss Brown. 671 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 1: So I'm playing and we're trying to and I will 672 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,760 Speaker 1: tell you. He was an African American ten year old boy. 673 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: This was during the Obama era administration, and he went 674 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: to a private school in DC. He was wearing like 675 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: a little blazer and he had a polo shirt and 676 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 1: he had a pair of packies on, which was the 677 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: private school uniform. He also had close cut hair, he 678 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: had ears that kind of stuck out. He had a 679 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: medium medium complexion. And I'm looking at him and I said, 680 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,320 Speaker 1: and I ask everybody in DC adults and child or like, 681 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: you have a nickname? Said yeah, said well, what's your nickname? 682 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 1: He said, my friends call me Obama. And at that moment, 683 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,800 Speaker 1: I get emotional, just tell the story. At that moment, 684 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,760 Speaker 1: I saw the resemblance like he was like a little 685 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: ten year old Barack Obama. And so I asked him, 686 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 1: I said, Chris, do you like your nickname? Because you know, 687 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: sometimes kids will put a nickname on you and you're 688 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: not happy about your nickname. And he like, he got 689 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: really proud, and he said, yeah, I love my nickname. 690 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: And it's like, okay, If that's not a little bit 691 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 1: of hope, a ten year old young man who saw 692 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 1: this horrible thing, who is so proud that his nickname 693 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: is the President of the United States, our first African 694 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,879 Speaker 1: American president, If that's not a little bit of hope, 695 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: and if that doesn't show the importance of people in 696 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: positions on the Supreme Court or high government officials who 697 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: our kids get to look at and emulate and be 698 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: proud of and aspire to be. If that's not a 699 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: little bit of hope, I don't know what is now. 700 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: In the years since my hope has been walked deep 701 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: into the woods and killed dead from time to time 702 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 1: because of what we've experienced, you know, but that is 703 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 1: a story that has always stuck with me about the 704 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: importance of President Obama and the importance of what Joe 705 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 1: Biden is about to do. You know, Glenn, I tell 706 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: you that there are days when we both get off 707 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: of these interviews and I feel not that great. And 708 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,439 Speaker 1: I will tell you that today that story really hit 709 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: me where I needed to remember where my heart and 710 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: hope is because it does it. Representation does matter, Diversity 711 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: does matter, and not just for diversity's sake, because the 712 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,800 Speaker 1: women that will be brought up to face a Senate 713 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: confirmation hearing will be the best that this country has 714 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 1: to offer. But the attention being given to the fact 715 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 1: that they had this group black women have been overlooked 716 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 1: for far too long is an important one. So thank 717 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 1: you so much for that reminder, for that story, for 718 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: leaving us today with a little bit more hopefulness than 719 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: we started out. I always appreciate you and the conversations 720 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 1: we get to have. Thank you, Daniel, Thank you. That 721 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 1: is it for me today. Folks on woke app as always, 722 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,240 Speaker 1: power to the people and to all the people power, 723 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: get woke, and stay woke as fuck.