WEBVTT - Yellowjackets S2 Premiere + Scream 6 w/ Co-Writer Guy Busick 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.000 This podcast contains spoilers for the season two premiere of 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:06.120 Yellow Jackets, Season one of Yellow Jackets, and the entire 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:10.000 Scream franchise, including the latest edition in the Scream franchise, 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:11.840 Scream six, So be warned. 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:32.200 Sydney. 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:35.840 Hello, my name is Jason Concepcion and I'm Rosie Knight, 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:37.720 and welcome to x ray Vision of the Crookeet Media 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:40.800 podcast where we dive deep to your favorite shows, movies, 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:42.599 comics and pop culture. 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:46.560 In this episode, previously, we're going to briefly talk about 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:49.239 the news that came out about Jonathan Major's from over 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:53.120 the weekend. In the Airlock, we'll be onto Yellowjackets Season 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:57.240 two the premiere, where we will recap that very fun 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:00.160 episode and maybe talk a little bit about some the 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.320 horror that we've loved so far this year. In the 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:05.760 Hive Mind, we're gonna have an interview with Scream six 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:09.080 co writer Guy Busick, which I cannot wait for. And 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.240 in the nerd Out, we've got a passionate plea from 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:15.319 Lucas on the Monk and Robot series by Becky Chambers. 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:18.759 We know there have been issues with the time stamps. 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:21.200 We're working on that, but you can still check the 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:24.199 show notes for those time stamps because they are there 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:30.160 for you to reference. Coming up the previously on Okay, 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:32.760 First up on the previously on. Some truly troubling news 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:37.800 about Jonathan Major's came out over the weekend. Over the 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:41.600 end of last week, per People magazine, which actually has 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:45.240 the police report quote. On Monday, People obtained documents from 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.800 the Manhattan District Attorney's office that show Major's thirty three, 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:50.400 was charged with three counts of assault in the third degree, 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:53.680 aggravated harassment in the second degree, three crowns of attempted 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:56.240 assault in the third degree, and harassment in the second 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:59.240 degree after he was arrested for an alleged domestic dispute 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:04.400 on Saturday. Some of the fallout for this includes the 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:12.440 Army pulling Majors from its ad campaign. The Army currently 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:21.560 embroiled in issues regarding its own problems with assault, cross 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:28.079 gender assault in its ranks violence, so kind of very 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:32.240 bad association with that. We don't know much more than 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:34.480 what is contained in the police support and we're waiting 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:36.600 for information to emerge, but truly. 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:38.120 Not good news. 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:44.480 A statement from majors lawyer says the following that Jonathan 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:47.080 Majors was quote the victim of an altercation with a 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:50.320 woman he knows, and that the woman had recanted the accusation, 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:54.120 and that video evidence and witness supported his account. The 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:57.200 statement continues, mister Majors is entirely innocent and did not 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:01.320 assault her whatsoever. And there was an earlier statement, I 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:04.200 think not this one, in which the same rep said 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:07.600 something to the effect of mister Major just looks forward 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:11.280 to clearing his name completely, or something to that effect. Obviously, 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:14.800 this is not good, not a lot of information to 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:18.560 go on, and we're waiting for more information before we 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:26.520 say more about it. But obviously troubling up. Next, Yellowjackets, 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.200 we're stepping out of the airlock for the season two 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:38.520 premiere of Yellow Jackets on the beleaguered Showtime network. 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:42.040 Be Lee Good. If you tried to watch it this weekend, 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:43.800 you may agree with that statement. 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:47.040 Well, let's talk about that for a brief second before 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:51.400 we get into the recap. Originally the show was supposed 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:53.280 to come out at a certain date, but then it 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.400 turned out not to be the date. What happened there? 0:03:56.000 --> 0:04:00.760 My understanding is that the show was released on streaming 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:04.840 on the Showtime app as they advertise on the twenty fourth, 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:09.080 but the premiere date, as promoted multiple times, was Sunday 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:10.960 the twenty sixth, which is when it is airing on 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:17.280 the Showtime network, going up against succession on broadcast. It 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:21.360 was unclear at best, but I will shout out to 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:23.920 the discord once again because so many people went in 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:25.520 there and were like, guys, I just want to let 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:27.159 you know you can watch it right now, and luckily 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.200 the internet new and now everyone can watch it, and 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:34.720 we have confirmed that that will be the release schedule 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:36.720 going forward. You will always be able to watch it 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:39.840 on the Showtime app on streaming on the Friday, and 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.200 on Sunday, you can watch it on old school cable 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:46.200 and we will be talking about it on our Wednesday episodes. 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:48.039 Oh folks, and it's a lot to talk. 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:55.919 WHOA Okay, so it's me Rosie. You can hear my voice, 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:59.400 not Jason's voice. Shocking twist, just like this episode is 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:04.880 full of. This episode of Yellowjackets has an unbelievable name 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:08.680 that you will surely laugh or cry about once you 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:14.120 see the final scene of the episode. It is called Friends, Romans, Countrymen, 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:17.880 written by Ashley Lyle and Bart Nickerson. The two of 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:22.280 the showrunners and directed by Daisy von Schirlemeier. Welcome back 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.960 to the Wilderness, Baby. The girls are trying to survive 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.760 a harsh winner and it is not going well. It's 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:30.800 not going well. Travis and that have taken on the 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.560 roles of full time hunter gatherers, which we kind of 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:38.120 saw teased in the last season. But while that seems sensible, 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:42.920 they are also entrenched in Lottie's strange wilderness rituals. 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:50.040 Yeah, you know Lottie, who you may remember nearly led 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:55.680 a cannibalistic murder and sexual assault. Very came very very 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:57.920 close to happening. Well, the sexual assault thing, I think 0:05:57.960 --> 0:05:59.360 you could argue did. 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:04.360 Happened ther The murder only was stopped by nat who 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:07.560 stopped Shahna from splitting Travis's throat open with a knife. 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:12.560 And Ladie is continuing down their paths of Now, remember 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:18.000 she has gone off her medication. She's neurodivergent in some fashion, 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:20.520 bipolar or I forget. 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:25.360 Which was unclear. I believe that. I believe Internet sleuths 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:30.560 saw that her medication was currently used. It was regularly 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:34.280 used for people who have schizophrenia. I will also note 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:37.760 that the mysterious nature of the show. We also know 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:41.120 that Lottie has had visions that have come true, and 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:47.520 there is a chance that potentially she is medicated for 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.680 reasons unknown, and we kind of see that her parents 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:55.000 have a distant relationship with their daughter and her mental health. 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.120 But basically, I'm going to tell you she's not doing 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:01.520 very well because when Travis and Travis then Nat go out, 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:03.679 she makes him drink a tea that has her blood 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:03.919 at it. 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:07.839 Right, not to mention the fact that if you, you know, 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:09.880 if your schizophrenic and you go off your meds, you 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:13.240 definitely shouldn't medicate with mushrooms, which is a thing that 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.640 happened and could be have very adverse effects. 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:19.320 Also, dropping off dropping off any meds is like a 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:20.320 recipe for disaster. 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:21.240 Yeah, and not good. 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:27.160 I will say, to your point about her medication and 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:33.520 her parents, I am eager to raise the possibility that 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.920 there is some kind of deeper conspiracy going on. 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:38.640 But I'll get to I'll raise that. 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.440 Get that I love, We'll get to that. So it's 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.640 the really interesting thing here is Travis kind of embraces it. 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.360 He drinks the blood tea, he goes for it and 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:51.120 you're starting to see where we stand two months later. Now, 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.440 Nat is not about this shit. She says, it's not 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:56.280 like this wicker bullshit is doing us good. But as 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:59.000 Lly points out, they keep coming back from the woods alive. 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.160 So drink that blood and head out on the way. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:06.280 She's like, is it working? And then you know we're 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.760 going to get a kind of this is foreshadowing or 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.960 we were right moment here we see Lottie draw the 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:16.800 strange symhol that we now know is the symbol of 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:20.520 her modern day cult. But before that very interesting moment here, 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:22.760 we skipped to a year we haven't seen before, nineteen 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:27.040 ninety eight and he's come home. Yep, it's a press frenzy, 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:31.640 like absolute madness at the airport. They are not thinking 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.160 about these children's mental health in any way, shape or form. 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:38.520 They are absolutely raiding her, and no surprise is Lottie 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:42.120 is dealing with it worse than anyone. She is silent, 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:45.040 she won't talk. Her parents say she barely eats, and 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.600 we immediately see them take her to the doctor. They 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.520 request that they want her to be fixed, and soon 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:52.080 she's getting electric shock therapy. 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:56.960 Okay, so in this scene, when you know we're watching 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:03.040 the news reports of them coming back to civilization after 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:08.080 their rescue. Somewhere in the woods, we hear the reporter 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:12.600 say that they were the plane crashed eight hundred miles 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.560 off of the plight the flight path like that it was. 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:19.440 It was in a place where no one was even looking, 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:24.800 leading me to ask, what is going on here? There's 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:28.520 another plane there, there's like that part of the woods. 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:33.360 There's something weird going on there, and what would lead 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.360 the plane to be over there in the first case? 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:39.120 So you're asking the important questions. One I will say, 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:42.280 as a as a devout hater of Loti's parents from 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.720 the first season and in the second season, I will say, 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.520 I think there's a very sad, logical reason which I 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:49.160 don't think is going to be the answer, but I'll 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:52.439 cover it. First, Loy's dad hired that plane. Loyi's dad 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:54.760 hated having a kid with mental health. I think there's 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.599 a very good chance that that was a way for 0:09:57.679 --> 0:09:59.040 him to get rid of this kid that he saw 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:01.360 as a burden. But I think the reason you're asking 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:04.440 important questions is because the reality is, as we see 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.360 in this episode, we're really getting into lost territory here, 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:11.560 let's talk about it. We're talking about Bermuda Triangle, people 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:15.400 getting potentially lost, planes ending up in this strange space. 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:18.840 Something is drawing people here, and I don't think Lottie 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:23.040 was wrong to say that the forest is trying to 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:23.720 keep them there. 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:25.360 Yeah, I think you're right. 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:29.520 And well, in the modern day, we see Lotty at 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:34.839 her wellness retreat aka a cult. Yes, it's a cult, 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:36.760 And in an interview that I wrote up at IGN, 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:38.840 the creators kind of talked about how they were inspired 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.440 by real wellness leaders and kind of people who had 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:45.360 used their platforms to end up creating cults around them. 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.360 It's called Camp Green Pine. Now I just have to 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:51.240 say something. It looks like the wilderness where they were lost, right, 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:54.079 But she literally looks like she's just gone back to 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:54.880 where they crashed. 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:59.000 I am saying. I think when Lartie came back, part 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:00.920 of the reason why she was talking is because she 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:04.240 fucking loved it out there. She was in her element, 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:06.199 she was having a great time, and then all of 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:08.080 a sudden, she's back in this place she doesn't want 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:11.520 to be. And it's I think quite fitting that it 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.480 appears that she has created a life that allows her to. 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:15.800 Return to that energy. 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:19.880 I completely And you know what, the pink and moive 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:25.480 and purple choor jackets are pretty nice, pretty nice. Always 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:30.400 beware when when these wellness people start wearing the same shit. 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:33.440 Yes, when it starts that you have a uniform, Yeah, 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:35.320 it's gonna go chadly, it's gonna. 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:35.400 Go a matter. 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:38.120 And she's giving like a speech that I think really 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.520 speaks to your point, which is she's talking about like 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:45.040 primal selves and how we all we can only help ourselves, 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:46.680 no one else can help us. And then she says 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:49.800 something really interesting again I think leads into our lost theory, 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:53.920 where she basically says it doesn't matter because it isn't real, 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.520 and everyone just starts screaming it isn't real, it isn't real, 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:00.120 and you're like, not good, No good sounds bad. And 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:03.120 after that very good Nightties credit sequence, which if you 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.640 want to, you can go through at half speed and 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.360 find many clips that will occur later in the season, 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:10.000 just like they did in season one. I did an 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:15.720 analysis at IGN about it. We come to a shocking revelation, 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.200 which is that Shawner is being interviewed by the police 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:22.560 about Adam's murder and they're asking very questions because guess what, 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:26.440 it's not the police, it's Misty' Misty with a voice 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:29.960 Transforpreme style voice transformer. 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:33.040 And again you have to say, here, okay, so Missy 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:38.079 one of my favorite characters in recent TV history, one 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:40.000 of the most for my money, one of the most 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:43.640 original characters you know, that I've ever seen on television. 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:49.480 She is chaos, she is amoral. She is you know, 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:51.120 if you had to put her in a slot, you'd 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:52.040 say she's a villain. 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.040 She's a murderer. We've seen her kill people. 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:55.119 She's a murderer. 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:59.000 She is probably the reason they were not rescued from 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:02.640 the woods a lot, because she destroyed the the transmitter. 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.520 She made them all trip on mushrooms, on and on 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:11.240 and on and on. But she's also right about everything. 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:13.679 Yes, I'm so glad you brought this up because one 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:17.679 Samantha Hanray Christina Ricci unbelievable. I have to say both. 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.559 All of the casting in this show is like unreal 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:24.000 how much they managed to get two different actors to 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.400 portray the same character and make it believable. But I 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:28.280 told I'm so glad you brought this up because this 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.920 episode especially proves they would be fucked without mystique, they 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:34.920 were fucked. She looked, Okay, did she break the black 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:38.760 box there? Yes, I have, I will. I will admit that. 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.760 But they probably wouldn't have survived even the two weeks 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:43.679 it took for them to rescue them, if they if 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:45.920 she hadn't. Without her, she was the one who knew 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.160 the weird survivalist ship. She knew how to court her 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:52.880 as a wound. She is indispensable in the narrative world 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.360 that they have created. And I love that that continues 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:59.240 now because they had to call her to dispose of 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:03.160 Adam's body. Now she's training, she's training, sure, not on 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:07.080 how to stop, not not tell the police everything because 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:08.359 Sean's gonna. 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:12.400 She's gonna Sean is gonna need that tree. And it 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:16.520 goes Natalie would have relapsed addiction if not. 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.000 And we will get to that too, because Natalie would 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:20.960 also have just disappeared off the face of the earth, 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:22.960 and no one would have cared. And if you're questioning 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:26.520 whether Misty's only doing this because she loves, you know, 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:31.360 murder and terrible things. No, she even made Sanna a giant. Yeah, 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:34.440 she made Shanna a giant cookie that said, let me 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.800 speak to my lawyer. She was like, she is a 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.080 true friend and in the world of yellow Jackets, she 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:43.800 is indispensable, even as like a crazy serial killer. You're 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:47.440 lucky to have her on side, absolutely, and they do 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:50.200 not respect that. Seanna's kind of like boy and her 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:52.320 off and she wants to go back home, and she's like, 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:56.320 we're fine, nothing's gonna happen. Tysa is struggling because her 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:59.960 wife found her bloodshot shrine at the end of last year, 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.160 which we'll talk about more, because I think they're playing 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:06.960 a very interesting game with the way we perceive whether 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.840 Tye really knows what's going on. But that comes to 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:12.720 a head outside of her son's school, where she tries 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:16.200 to drop off a new dog, Steve, and love Steve. 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:17.720 He's so cute, it was I was a big fan 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.160 of this. Steve is actually also the best name, the 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:22.120 name of the best character in the Missile movie. 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:25.600 I hope Steve makes it for the entire s me too. 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.240 I love Steve, and I'm sure this is going to 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.200 come into play. But her wife basically says like, if 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.440 you don't drop out of office and get some help, 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:36.560 Like I'm going to the press, and another way biggest. 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.600 As she should as should as. 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:42.560 Shrine blood shrine, and I'd be could you imagine if 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:49.640 you saw your potentially like psychotic ex who decapitated your 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:54.960 pet and created a weird like blood religious shrine in 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.880 your basement all of a sudden that you're divorcing yees 0:15:57.880 --> 0:15:59.640 of a sudden like trying to pick up your child. 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.560 I think the most unsettling thing about that is not 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.840 the fact that she made it, though that is obviously horrific, 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.800 but also you'd have to deal with the existential horror 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.640 of the fact that it seemed to have worked because 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:15.040 Tis was gonna lose the election, and then she did 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.560 that and now she's a senator. Nat is nowhere to 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:20.280 be seen in the modern day. Of course, we know 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:24.200 she got kidnapped by Lottie's cult, and sure not is 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:27.200 just like unbelievably chill about the fact she killed a 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:30.440 man and is now covering it out very badly. In 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:34.520 a very cool moment, Misty basically like seeks out the 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:37.040 truth on her true crime boards to see if any 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:40.680 citizen detectives are going to uncover what happened in Adam's death, 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:45.920 and it does look like a faceless yet recognizable voice 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:49.560 of Elijah Woods may be coming closer to the truth 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:51.600 than Misty would like. So we're gonna get that Ice 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:53.160 Storm reunion sooner. 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.400 And I will say, as a person who spends a 0:16:57.440 --> 0:17:01.280 lot of time on the unsolved mysteries read it. The 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:06.240 voicing of this, like the post itself in the styling, 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.560 felt very very much what you would say. 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:13.640 One I was like, this is and I loved how 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:15.960 in sync they are. There's this kind of that It's 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:19.399 written as a telegram something stop stop and Misty's like, 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:21.000 oh my god, this is getting tired. And at the 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.000 same time he writes this is getting tired, like I'm 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.800 tired of this. They're they're in sync already. And I 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:30.399 wouldn't be surprised if we saw Misty finally find a 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:32.080 romantic I was going to. 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:36.520 Say attraction absolutely feel the same way that it feels 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:37.080 like that's. 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:38.920 She's going to have to like team up with him 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.920 to pretend that they're solving the murder, but really she's 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:44.680 going to be stopping him. I mean it sounds delightful. 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:49.560 Sadly things are not delightful. In nineteen ninety six, where 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:53.159 the Rations are running low, which seems like it's going 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:55.800 to play into the further cannibal story arc that we 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:58.200 will inevitably be getting to. If you remember the first 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.600 episode of the first season where we saw the girls 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:05.359 eating some kind of meat in these strange cult costumes. Now, 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:09.679 good news turns out Jackie did survive her night in 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:12.960 the forest because Shawna is playing mash with her and 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:15.120 they're kind of talking about how she's gonna be married 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:17.679 to Jeff, and it seems great, Oh no, that's not 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.480 the case, dun center, Jackie is dead. 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:25.879 She's targeting to a flat out frozen gray corpse that 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:28.600 is like horrific to look at. 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:32.080 And for some reason, I would say trauma, grief, and 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:37.080 immense amounts of guilt. Shanna, now, as Marie mentions, just 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:40.320 chills in the meat shed with Jackie's dead body and 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:43.520 then comes out with like like rations and says, oh, 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:45.720 I was getting these, but everyone knows. She's just kind 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:50.359 of SnO, yeah, and they really dissect they play games together. 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:54.760 We see it's this very fun Norman Bates esque situation 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.840 where Shawna is talking about all the things she's guilty 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:00.040 about how her and Jeff got together. You know, the 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:02.920 future that she wants to have it. It's really sad 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:05.920 and Sophie Nellie's is so good, Like again, great costing. 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.320 You really feel like that's young Melanie Lynsky. 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:15.200 There's with Jackie and Shawna and then Shawna as an adult, 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:23.960 and there's something really interesting here about like sexuality and 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:26.800 the sense of like attraction, the things that turn a 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:30.159 person on but also shame. Yeah, certainly in the in 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:33.640 adult Shauna's life. We see this later in the episode. Yeah, 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:37.840 her and Jeff. You know, she she kind of allows 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:39.960 herself to be vulnerable about the things that. 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:40.719 Turn her on. 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:45.320 And it's very interesting because, you know, Jackie and Jeff. 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:50.600 The issue there was that Jackie was not ready to 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:56.000 have sex with Jeff and and Shaana you could say, 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:58.600 kind of use that as a way to kind of 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:03.040 pull Jeff into her web. And the way that represents 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:08.080 in in Shawna's psyche is really fascinating. 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:09.919 Really, Yeah, I think that's such a great point. I 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:12.160 loved that moment where she's taught that her and Jackie 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:15.960 are arguing about it. Jackie says it was because the 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:18.080 reason we argued was because I wouldn't sleep with him 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:20.639 you know, And Shawna says, oh, I'm so sorry I 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:23.640 didn't know, because it's just her psyche. Jackie goes, yeah, 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:27.200 you did. And it's this great kind of personal argument 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:29.959 about the way you can repress things that you're ashamed 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:32.600 of and things that you did. And also I feel like, 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:34.480 for the first time in this episode, we get it 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:36.320 with a little bit with Van and Tye in the wilderness, 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:38.919 and we get it here the kind of reminder of 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:42.640 how different things were in the nineties about sex, especially 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:45.639 for young women, about being queer or about being sexually active. 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:49.520 But anyway, you know what, that doesn't matter because what 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:52.920 ultimately ends up happening is that Shawna does not learn 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:55.920 something from this. Shawna gets angry at her own psyche 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:58.840 and her own dead best friend and knocks her over, 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:02.960 knocking off Jackie's ear, which will set on a domino 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:06.199 effect to the final moments of this episode that you 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:08.719 will not believe. So, you know what, instead of just 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:11.159 leaving it there in the meat shed, she puts it 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:11.800 in her pocket. 0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:16.480 And I question, I questioned the decision making, but I 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:16.920 get it. 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:17.439 I get it. 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:17.840 You know what. 0:21:19.280 --> 0:21:22.680 Is chaos in Shana is this is what I love 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:26.280 about this episode, and I love how the beginning of 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:28.119 this season I feel like it was close to it 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:30.160 at the end because Shorna killed Adam, but they kind 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:32.920 of made narrative allowances. By the end of this episode, 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:37.320 I'm like, sure that is the chaos cyclone that everything 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:38.680 else happens around. 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:46.080 I agree, thing bad. She is like a high functioning freak, 0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:50.480 you know, she puts she has this facade of the 0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:55.679 regular wife and mother, you know, living this kind of 0:21:56.119 --> 0:21:59.360 upper middle class suburban life, like after the terrible things 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:02.159 had happened, yeah, because of the crash and when she 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:08.280 was teenager, But in reality, inside she is just a mess. 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:10.879 Yeah, And that's I think that's why the show speaks 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:13.000 to so many people, because there's so many great moments 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:17.520 about like the perception Shana is the unsatisfied suburban housewife 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:19.680 but she wouldn't hurt anyone. But in that first season, 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:21.679 you ever just kill that rabbit who's in her garden. 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:24.399 She has this violence and this fury in her that 0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:27.880 she may hide better than someone like Misty, but it's 0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:31.080