1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. Single best idea Dominic 2 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: Constant of Missoulo with a special guest on the back end. 3 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: I really can't say enough about this, and I think 4 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: the heritage and the mathematics and the work of all 5 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: of our guests are really important. Constum was extraordinary. He 6 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: really drove forward the quantitative economic thinking of Credits Suite 7 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: and an absolute heyday. That was the leadership of Meil Sauce. 8 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: And they had just to just Mark Flannery and an 9 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: oil and guest pipelines and they just a fabulous team going. 10 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: And Dominic Constant was at Credit Sweee with Ira Jersey 11 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: iras now at Bloomberg Intelligence, driving all her fixed income. 12 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: And the reason you read each house is different. You 13 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: read Golden Sachs for this reason and was for this reason, 14 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: be and be paired about whatever you read each different house. 15 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: And you read Credit Sweets fixed income economics for one 16 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: chart and it was called the hair chart, and what 17 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: it was was where interest rates are now, and then 18 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: they would overlay the guesstimate of what interest rates would do. 19 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: And it was a beautiful graphic representation of how wrong, wrong, wrong, 20 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: all of global Wall Street was within the Great Moderation. 21 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: All of that was due to the expertise of the 22 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: team around Dominique constem Now decades on with Missouo dominic 23 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: constem On, your inflation. 24 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 2: Inflation was really insidious this time. I mean people try 25 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: and compair it with the nineteen seventies. Nineteen seventies inflation 26 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: was not nearly as insidious, not only as people remember it, 27 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: but also economically when you look at it and where 28 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: it came from was basic companies checking up prices and 29 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: setting the same stuff for more but less. I mean 30 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: it was really kind of like supply driven controlling it. 31 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: And in economics we call that things like price discrimination. 32 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 2: It's all this sort of dynamic pricing which now is 33 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: all over the place, you know where basically consumers are 34 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: are being having their sort of airline tickets. Yeah, exactly, 35 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: consumer That's where it came that's right at. 36 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: London School of Economics, the price discrimination question right all 37 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: is airline tickets. 38 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Inflation is always in everywhere a monetary phenomenon. Absolutely not. 39 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: I mean that's what it isn't It isn't always and 40 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 2: everywhere from monetary phenomenon. It's partly due to corporate pricing acts. 41 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: A firestorm of response to the statement by doctor Constum 42 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: like YouTube. The live chat lit up like a candle, 43 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: people saying he doesn't remember the seventies. But for dominic 44 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: Constem to make those statements on consumer inflation in America, 45 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: can you imagine him testifying to Congress on that it 46 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: would be a firestorm, to say the least. We continued 47 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: with Dominic Constem about just a simple idea of moving 48 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: this economy forward. 49 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: Let's listen absolutely, and the good news is interest rates 50 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: are so high that they can come down a lot. 51 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 2: There's also the good news that balance sheets pretty much 52 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: across sectors, household and corporates are actually in pretty good shape. 53 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: The government is obviously in a slight issue, but basically 54 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: that means you don't have the sort of hangover that 55 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: you've had in previous a significant downstannds. So this is 56 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: what I would call a regular cycle. You just need 57 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: to get rates down and things will be basically fine. 58 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 1: Thank you Dominic Constant for attendance today. John Farrah, Lisa Bramowitz, 59 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: and Amory Horden spent a good amount of time with 60 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: doctor Olarian. We shangheid him coming out of the studio. 61 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: He gave us three or four minutes before the Sikorski 62 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: left the roof. Here at seven thirty one at Lexington, 63 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: quiz doctor el Arian about his New York Jets, his 64 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: optimism for the season. He may attended j'll hat Stadium 65 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: here in the Patriots coming up. But then Muhammad Olrian 66 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: on a measured FED. 67 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: I think we will be measured forward, meaning we will 68 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: go at twenty five basis points. We won't get dramatic 69 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: series of fifties, but we will be measured for the 70 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: wrong reason. Will be measured because the FED will remain 71 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: over reactive, meaning it will be two data dependent and 72 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 3: will not be in front of forwarding. I think the 73 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 3: key issue about Greenspan, Bernanke and Yellen when they were 74 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 3: willing to lean forward and take a view of the economy. 75 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 3: Chap Powell is not there yet. 76 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: Doctor Laron a brief visit with us. We'll get him 77 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: in for a much longer time here within his schedule. 78 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: He has to head back to the University of Cambridge. 79 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: On our distribution today and the people that helped me 80 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: with us every day try to explain to me the 81 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: multiple platforms were on it's not just Bloomberg eleven three. Oh, 82 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: it's frankly not just YouTube. Thank you so much to 83 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: Jamie out at TCW Los Angeles for listening in serious XM. 84 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: She was listening in serious this morning before her appearance 85 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: with this mentioned Dominique, a constant but nationwide excuse me. 86 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: We thank you on sirious, on Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, 87 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: all the different new ways in the digital landscape. Summing 88 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: up to her, we're just absolutely humbled by a record 89 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: audience in August. We move into the fall with confidence 90 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: of good conversations for you out on YouTube. For Lisa Mateo, 91 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: please subscribe to Bloomberg Podcasts on Apple Podcasts. 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