1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on everybody? How are we doing? 2 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: John middlecoff three and now podcast. Hopefully everyone's having a 3 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: great day. I think my game plan when the day 4 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 1: started was just to do a mailbag and I'm going 5 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: on with Colin after the Notre Dame, Ohio State National 6 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: championship game. So I was just gonna do a big 7 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: mail bag today because we got so many questions. But 8 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: right before I sat down on my desk to bang 9 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: that out, Ben Johnson was hired as the Bears coach. 10 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: So I said, well, we can't do a football podcast 11 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: without doing some Ben Johnson to the Bears content, So 12 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: we will talk about that off the top. I just 13 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: kind of wrote down some of my thoughts. Obviously, it's 14 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no way it's a great day if 15 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: you're Bears fan for what's been a rough time. But 16 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: we'll dive into the good, the bad, the ugly when 17 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: it comes to Ben Johnson, the hype staying in the division. 18 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: Obviously Ryan Poles looks like he's keeping his job, those 19 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: two working together, two young guys, the pressure on Caleb, 20 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: the pressure on the team. Tom Brady I guess couldn't 21 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: close the deal, And yeah, so we'll do some of 22 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: that and then we'll do a mail bag at John Middlecoff. 23 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: At John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those d dms, 24 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: if you are the person that's shot me the DM 25 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: that said I know a guy that knows a guy 26 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: in the Bears organization. Ben Johnson will be the coach yesterday, 27 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: so that would have been Sunday. You got some good connections. 28 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: Couldn't run with it because I didn't know who the guy. 29 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: I'm not a newsbreaker, but I was like, damn and 30 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: it came true. So you never know who's gonna have 31 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: a scoop in their back pocket. Other than that, I 32 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: think the game plan will just be podcasts this week. 33 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: I mean, we should see a bunch of guys get 34 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: hired hopefully, so we'll have some storylines. Obviously. The two 35 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: big games this Sunday, Washington going to the Philadelphia Eagles. 36 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 1: Think about their owner in Washington, who owns the Sixers 37 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: as well. Who the Eagles are the Phillies team for sure, 38 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: that's the number one team, but the Sixers are a 39 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: big deal and he's kind of turned him into a 40 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: running joke. And it's one thing to own another team 41 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: in the Eagles division. When they suck. Now you're going 42 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: to potentially block them from going to the super Bowl. 43 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: It's gonna be an interesting week for Josh Harris very 44 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: if he were to win the game, I think Eagle 45 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: fans would demand he sells the Sixers, which is again 46 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: not going well at all. They are a disaster this year. 47 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: And I think he's most well known for the owner 48 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: that supported created and wanted the process. And obviously I 49 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: would say the heavyweight fight. Many are going to think 50 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: it's the super Bowl. I would the Eagles a chance 51 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl. Challein's got to play better. 52 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: But Chiefs Bill, that's a that's a great game. That's 53 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: a that's a great game, big moment for Josh Allen. 54 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: Because Josh wins, he would jo join Joe Burrow and 55 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: Tom Brady as the guys to take down mahomes In 56 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: in championship games. So we will we will discuss that 57 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: as the week goes on as well. So make sure 58 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast if you listen on Collins Feed, 59 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: make sure you subscribe to the YouTube channel as well 60 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: if you like our content. And other than that, let's 61 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: talk some ball and congratulations if you're a Chicago Bear 62 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: fan in the simple fact that the last twelve months. 63 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: I guess the last twelve months weren't because you got Caleb, 64 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: but I would say the post Kleb Eber flu season 65 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: had to be as shitty as it gets. I mean, 66 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: that's just I've been watching sports for thirty plus years, rooting, 67 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: watching gambling, seeing the ebbs and flows, seeing it all, 68 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: and that that's about as low as you get that 69 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: you talk about, especially when you come into a season 70 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: with hype. So we'll just dive into that. I think 71 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: that's the headline story here is that Chicago Bears have 72 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: hired Ben Johnson. I started to believe again, like I'm 73 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: not some insider here, just reading reports from insiders that 74 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: Tom Brady was giving him the you know, a full 75 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: on pitch, and Ben Johnson was more than intrigued. It 76 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: was like he was inclined to take the Raider job. 77 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: And I told Colin on Sunday night that that's insane. 78 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: They have no quarterback. I just saw a quote from 79 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: Max Crosby that's like, yeah, I got no guaranteed money left. 80 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: We got a lot to talk about. And it wasn't 81 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: just like, I want more money here. I think Max 82 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: Crosby will inevitably be traded this offseason, and it's probably 83 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: the right move. Just blow that shit up, nuke the Raiders. 84 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: But from a job stand point, they got no quarterback. 85 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: They have no direction to get a quarterback. And the 86 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: reason you would have been taking that job was for 87 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, who lives in Florida, so you'd be going 88 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: into the job every day. Now, they started interviewing what 89 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: we think was his buddy, Adam Peters right hand man, 90 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: who has been in Detroit for twenty five years, so 91 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: you thought, well, if they hire him, Ben Johnson gets 92 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 1: his GM. That's not what he gets here in Chicago, 93 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: like he has to work with Ryan Poles. But clearly 94 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: he just looked at it. I would rather take my 95 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: chances to resurrect Caleb's NFL career. At least we have 96 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: a quarterback under contract who was just the number one 97 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: pick in the draft and widely considered fair or not, 98 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: right or wrong. The best prospect we've seen in a 99 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: long time, long time would be strong. I mean Trevor 100 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: Lawrence was viewed really highly. Shows you what being the 101 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: best prospect you know doesn't always pan Out now sometime, 102 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: Andrew Locke, Peyton Manning, John Elway, Matt Stafford. But I 103 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: totally understand they got good defensive pieces. And it's to 104 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. I mean, it's one of the biggest cities 105 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: in America. It's a die hard sports city and the 106 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: number one team in that city is the Bears. And 107 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: they have some historic teams. I mean, the Chicago Bulls 108 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: had a guy named Michael Jordan. The Chicago Cubs are just, 109 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: I mean one of the more more high profile baseball teams. 110 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: I know they've been down recently, but obviously when THEO 111 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: and they won that World Series, it was a really 112 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: big It's just a great sports down And like I 113 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: understand being intrigued by it. If you're Ben Johnson clearly 114 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: got a lot of money, but it you know this 115 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: division really well. Like if you just think about, like 116 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: what's his advantage taking this job, It's like he knows 117 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: this division like the back of his hand. Think about it. 118 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: He's been calling, you know, offense, so he's been game 119 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: planning against the Bears defense, which now is his defense, 120 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: the Lions defense, like every day in training camp for 121 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: three years and seeing him every day in practice obviously, 122 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: the the Green Bay Packers and the minutes to Viking. 123 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: So his comfort level with the personnel in the six 124 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: games honestly couldn't be higher, and not just his comfort 125 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: level with the personnel, but his comfort level with the coordinators. 126 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: He got to face Halflee twice this year. Obviously he 127 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: knows Flores now, he's seen him a couple of years 128 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: in a row. And regardless of who you know, we 129 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: assume Aaron Glenn is either gonna get the Jets, the Saints, 130 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: one of the Jags. One of these jobs he is 131 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: going to know, maybe not the next coordinator unless it's 132 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: a guy that they elevate from the staff, but he's like, 133 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: they're not going to drastically change what they do, so 134 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna be very comfortable there. And anytime you make 135 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: the transition from a coordinator to a head coach, most 136 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: guys and it's a little weird, honestly, Like I don't 137 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: blame him for doing this, because when you look at 138 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: the landscape, I didn't think any of these jobs are 139 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: any good, the Jags, the Raiders, the Bears. But I 140 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: do get staying it's an easy comfort level, but like 141 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: those are your guys like you've just been in the 142 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: trenches with them trying to win a super Bowl for 143 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: the last twelve, you know whatever, twelve plus months, really eighteen, 144 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: and you got so close. You're the number one seed 145 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: this year, and now you just bounce. I mean, it's 146 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: part of the gig, right, There's only so many jobs open. 147 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: But oftentimes that guy like leaves the conference or definitely 148 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: leaves the division. So anytime you get a divisional you know, 149 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: carryover like that from an assistant coach always adds like 150 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: an element of intrigue. And so if I'm a Bears fan, 151 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: one just the simple fact that we got the number 152 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: one guy, we got the number one guy on the market. 153 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: The Raiders wanted him, the Jags wanted him. He didn't 154 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: even interview with the Jets. They definitely would take him. 155 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: If he said I want your job, they would hire 156 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: him tomorrow. The Saints would obviously take them. I don't 157 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: even know what Jerry's doing. That'll be a conversation for 158 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: another day. But you got the number one head coach 159 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: on the market. You celebrate, You celebrate this, and I 160 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: think Lions fans had just come to grips with well 161 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: before the last couple of weeks, like this guy was gone, 162 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: he was going to take a job, And if anything, 163 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: you should be lucky that you got this extra season 164 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: with them. And we'll dive into them in a second. 165 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: But it's an overall great day day for the franchise, which, 166 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: let's face it has not had many great days in 167 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: recent memory, you know, beside like the trade Ryan Poles 168 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: pulled off. But in terms of coaches, you know, the 169 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: eber Flu situation. This year was a coaching disaster from 170 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: Ebraflu's getting fired to them last year. They fired a 171 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: bunch of coaches during the season. They've just had a 172 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: lot of weird shit going on. Obviously, they elevated Thomas Brown, 173 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: he's completely over his head. The team looked even worse. 174 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: It was a sad state of affairs. And when you 175 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: have like the NFL is very lucky right now that 176 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: they're not beholden to these big markets, right like the 177 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: Niners sucked this year. Who cares, doesn't matter. The Bears 178 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: haven't been good in a decade, the Jets, the Giants, 179 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: they've sucked a lot recently. And the league just keeps 180 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: on trucking along. Like last year, the Saturday night game 181 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: was Niners Packers, and this year it was the Detroit 182 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: Lions and the Washington Commanders, two franchises that have not 183 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: been important to the league over the last twenty five years, 184 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: and a little less people watched than last year. I 185 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: don't know, two of the most historic franchise in the league. 186 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: But you're not beholden to you. Like the NBA, the 187 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, it's Dodgers, Lakers, Celtics, the Yankees. You 188 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: need those teams or you got no fucking chance. No 189 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: one will watch the Oklahoma City thunder Hell, the Denver Nuggets, 190 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: who have been really good. People just don't watch it. 191 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: That's not the case in the NFL. And like, if 192 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: you can get like if Dave Ball could ever get 193 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: the Giants rolling, if whoever gets the Jets job can 194 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: get it rolling, If Ben Johnson can roll with the 195 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, you like to become a legend. I don't 196 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: think people quite understand, probably outside the DC area, how 197 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: big a deal it is for Dan Quinn and Jaydon 198 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: Daniels to rest wrect that franchise. This isn't some random 199 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: This is not like resurrecting the Jags. It's just not 200 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: you know, so resurrecting that franchise and have them in 201 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: a game is a really really big deal. So the pressure, 202 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: like there's no disputing the pressure on Ben Johnson, for 203 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: as cool as this moment is, starts pretty quickly. And 204 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: this is not like you take over the Raiders job. 205 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: There aren't really that many expectations immediately, like you're gonna 206 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: get a long grace period. Now I would imagine he's 207 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: gonna have a long contract, So I'm not acting like 208 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: he would get fired if he struggles. But the expectations, 209 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: it's why ever Flus and everyone got blown out because 210 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: the expectations are gonna be really, really high. They're gonna go. 211 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: We got a lot of good players. We said, the 212 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: number one overall pick in the draft, we got some 213 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: caps face time to roll. You don't you don't need 214 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: to win twelve games right away, but we have a 215 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: better roster than the Commanders, right and the Commanders in 216 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: year one with just credible coaches, people that knew what 217 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: they were doing, a new GM with a lot of 218 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: history that knew what he was doing, or in the 219 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game, we don't even want that. Can we 220 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: just compete for a wild card spot. Can we just 221 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: be like the last couple weeks of the season, have 222 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: a chance to make the playoffs, have a chance to 223 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: get nine or ten wins. That is a successful first season. 224 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: But those are kind of gonna be the expectations. There's 225 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: no like, well, his first year he went four or 226 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: five wins because he's basically being hired and rightfully so, 227 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: to fix and get this quarterback good and this offense 228 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: to not look as putrid as it did last season. 229 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: The problem is is when his offense was rolling these 230 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: last couple of years in Detroit, their offensive line was elite. 231 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: I mean, no team in the league played their six 232 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: offensive lineman more than them, So you skipper, so their 233 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: offensive line to protect a quarterback. Now, granted, Jared Goff 234 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: is a lot different player than Caleb Williams, but like 235 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: their offensive line with the Chicago Bears is was like 236 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 1: embarrassingly bad. And part of it was Caleb holding the 237 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: ball too long and the pressure on him to get 238 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: that out of them. Part of what they did in 239 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: Detroit with this offense, Like here's the thing, Caleb, We're 240 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: bringing my offense Like this offense works, so can you 241 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: run it now? Obviously you can't just be too stubborn 242 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: as a coach, like what type things Caleb likes you 243 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 1: would be I mean, you would not be doing your 244 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: job if not only you ask him, but you implement 245 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: some of that in your offense. Because he's a different 246 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: player than Jared Goffin. He's not as accurate. But there 247 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: are gonna be elements like we like snapping the ball, 248 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: getting the ball out of our hands. That is what 249 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: we do won because we're gonna have to do it 250 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: with the offensive line, and two because like that's how 251 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: I play and that's what I want to do. And 252 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: obviously running the ball was such a huge part of 253 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: what Detroit did. That's something that this year with starting 254 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: with Ryan Poles, I mean, they built a passing team. 255 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: They built a team that was like in theory, was 256 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: trying to play like a dome team, and Dan Campbell 257 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: built a dome team that actually was built to play outside. Obviously, 258 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: the injuries took its toll on their defense, but in 259 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: terms of offensively, they could play like the Ravens. We'll 260 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: run at forty times in the game. Even though Todd 261 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: Munkin in the playoffs never does that. He's obsessed with passing. 262 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: But again, another conversation for another day. The thing that 263 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: makes me a little nervous and all reports as of 264 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: recording this is he's going to hire Dennis Allen as 265 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: his defensive coordinator. Excellent defensive coordinator. The best part about 266 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: the NFL not everyone's meant to be a number one. 267 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: We've seen Dennis Allen try to be a head coach. 268 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: It's not for him. But the best part about being 269 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: a great number two is it pays a premium in 270 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: the NFL. This wall Street on grass. Dennis Allen will 271 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: make three or four million dollars being the defensive coordinator 272 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: for the Chicago Bears. And he's an important guy for 273 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson given that he's been a head coach multiple spots, 274 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: and someone to lean on when you have questions about 275 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: what to do things. Because anytime you go from coordinator, 276 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: I've been saying this forever, go from coordinator to head coach. 277 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: It changes obviously financially your life, but it changes the 278 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: way you do business because every day is not just 279 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: about sitting in a film room and drawn up plays 280 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: for Saint Brown Laporta and Jamier Gibbs. Like you might 281 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: have a player that gets a DUI that only plays 282 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: on special teams. That's now your problem. You might have 283 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: a coach who's kid sick and needs to leave who 284 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, that's your problem. 285 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: You might have something happen to the owner he wants 286 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: to meet with you out of the blue. That's on you. 287 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: Everything Dan Campbell dealt with now Ben Johnson has to 288 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: deal with. And while Ryan Poles now has been a 289 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: general manager for a couple of years. I looked at 290 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: their ages before I hopped on. Ben Johnson's thirty eight, 291 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: Ryan Poles is thirty nine, So like, these are two 292 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: really really young guys. Obviously, Ben Johnson's never been a 293 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: head coach before, and you would say Ryan Poles like 294 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: has been a little over his head at times being 295 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: a general manager. So the pressure on these two guys 296 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: that are under forty in a division full of high 297 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: level coaches, high level players, well run operations is gonna 298 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: be a big, big challenge. And back to what I 299 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: said about like this is a pre sure job. This 300 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: is a job where just a lot of people are 301 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: talking about you, a lot of people are working are 302 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: just kind of looking at what's going on. And a 303 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: huge reason for that is Caleb Williams. So like, there's 304 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: just gonna be a lot of eyeballs and a lot 305 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: of people like I don't necessarily care about the Chicago Bears. 306 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to follow them really closely. You know, this 307 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: is a this is a national team. The moment they 308 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: got Caleb Williams, we're paying attention. We're judging them how 309 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: we were judging him this year. Not because of Matt Eberflus. 310 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: No one cares about Matt Eberflus. He's one of the 311 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: worst coaches we've ever seen, good defensive coordinator just over 312 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: his head as a head coach. But in terms of 313 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: the story with Caleb Williams, like you had to pay 314 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: attention if you're in the football business. So I'm just 315 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: fascinated to watch these two guys who you know, Ben 316 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson gets a clean slate, But there's like, assuming 317 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: Ryan Poles keeps his job, does he know what he's doing? 318 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: Does he know what he's doing? Because Ben Johnson came 319 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: from a place where we hammered home physicality upfront, which 320 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: is I rn it because Ryan pulls an offensive lineman 321 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: he blocked from Matt Ryan at Boston College. But yet 322 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: he built his team like he was a wide receiver 323 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: or dB, Like we build it on the perimeter instead 324 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: of building it in the middle right, which most offensive lineman? 325 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: Like why do you think Andy Reid over the years 326 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: loves signing and drafting defensive and offensive lineman because he 327 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: was an offensive lineman? Like that's who he is. Dan Campbell, 328 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: where did he line up the line of scrimmage as 329 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: a blocking tight end? I mean, that's his baby, you know, 330 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, which is all we make fun of him 331 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: that And I remember reading an article in Sports Illustrated 332 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: years ago that I think one of his teammates, either 333 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: at Michigan or one of his teammates when he first 334 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: got drafted to Chicago Bears, they said, you realize early 335 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: on Jim Harbaugh was just a linebacker in a quarterback's body, 336 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: and some guys are wired differently. And I'll be fascinated 337 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: to see Ben Johnson's influence. You know, did he think 338 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: like Dan Campbell or did he just call plays based 339 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: on the players that Dan Campbell and the GM bill. 340 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm not trying to poo poo 341 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,239 Speaker 1: any of this. This is an awesome moment if you're 342 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: a Bears fan. Cool moment for the NFL because this 343 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: is a guy that I think we've seen a short 344 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: list of him over the years, Like Kevin O'Connell was 345 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: not as famous when he was higher as this. Sean 346 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: McVeigh definitely was not. I mean, we have seen guys, 347 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: some of them have flopped and some of them made 348 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: it right. Shane Stiket had a lot of hype because 349 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: he was the offensive coordinator on a team that was 350 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: kicking asid and taking names in the Super Bowl, and 351 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: he got the job and he's clearly it feels like 352 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: by year two a little in over his head. Josh 353 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: McDaniels couldn't have been a more famous offensive coordinator over 354 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: the years. Got his second opportunity with the Raiders and 355 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: was an abomination. We've seen guys like Kyle Shanahan a 356 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: ton of hype, same type deal with Ben Johnson, have success. 357 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: But the one thing Kyle did when he got the 358 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: Niner job is he got a clean slate. There wasn't 359 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: any pressure because the team it sucked and he got 360 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: to bring in his GM. This is one of those 361 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: like you kind of gotta marry like it's an arranged 362 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: marriage with Poles that you got the Kevin Warren factor 363 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 1: and you just got like, let's talk about the elephant 364 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: in the room here, Ben Johnson. If Caleb's is not 365 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: any good, it's not gonna be Ben Johnson's fault. And 366 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: if Caleb is good, he's gonna get a lot of credit. 367 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: So before it was like Caleb's gonna save the Bears, 368 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: those days are over. Caleb is now in a partnership 369 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: with Ben Johnson. And if we saw Ben Johnson last 370 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: year or excuse me, well we obviously saw Ben, but 371 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: we saw Caleb without coaching was a bad I mean, 372 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: was borderline unplayable a lot of the games. Like it 373 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: was like, you're gonna lose if this guy's your quarterback. 374 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: So now if he's good, like Ben Johnson's gonna get 375 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: i mean, at minimum, be a fifty to fifty shareholder 376 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: in this operation. It was kind of like Sean McVay 377 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: when he got Jared Goff with the Rams. We saw 378 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: Jared Goff as a rookie, he didn't even look like 379 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: an NFL player. Then Sean McVay showed up. They start 380 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: running the ball and Jared Goff was a good player, Well, 381 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: who got a lion's share of the credit? Sean McVay, 382 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: that's gonna happen here. And if if you're Caleb, like, 383 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: if it goes well, you're glad to share the credit 384 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: because that means your team's winning and everything's going well. 385 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: If it doesn't go well, no one's gonna be like, well, 386 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson doesn't know what he's doing as an offensive 387 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: coordinator because we've seen him as an offensive coordinator with 388 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, who got kicked to the curb be awesome. 389 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: So I'm fascinated by the, uh, you know, the dynamic 390 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: of the conversation here because we talk about pressure. There's 391 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: pressure on the organization. There's pressure now on Ben Johnson 392 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: and Ryan Poles. There's a ton of pressure on Caleb Williams. 393 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: And a huge, huge reason for that is Jayden Daniels 394 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: just had the greatest rookie season we've ever seen. We 395 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: have never seen a rookie quarterback who's been asked to 396 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: do this much carry a team to the NFC champion game. 397 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: I want to say they got no shot against the Eagles, 398 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: but I think at this point in time, you would 399 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: you'd be crazy to even utter those words. It might 400 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: just be a stay away as a bet, right, But like, 401 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: I don't know, how would you not give him a shot? 402 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: He's fucking good. What would Howie Roseman do right now? 403 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: Would he trade Jalen Hurts trade up for Jayden Daniels? 404 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: What do you think what happens if? Obviously you can't 405 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: during the playoffs. But I'm just saying, like, if that 406 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: conversation happened at the combine, who says no? Obviously there's 407 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: one guy that says no, and it's Adam Peters. Harry 408 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: Roseman's like, do you want me to send him on 409 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: a bus? Or do you want me to drive him? 410 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: Or do you want Big Dom to fly him? Like 411 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: how do you want me to get him there? I mean, 412 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: that's but that's what we're talking about. And you go, 413 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of this. No, we've never seen 414 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: this ever in the history of the game seen this, 415 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: and let's face it, it's never been easier to play football. 416 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: So like, you're never a bad quarterback when you make 417 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: a bad pass like Jalen Hurts through a hospital ball 418 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: yesterday to DeVante Smith and throughout the majority of my life, 419 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: DeVante Smith just gets laid out it's an incompletion and said, 420 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 1: now it's fifteen yard penalty. So all the rules are 421 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: for the quarterbacks. And I'm not trying to act like 422 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: Jalen shouldn't have thrown the ball. But ten years ago, 423 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: no one cares that DeVante's is laying there buckling his 424 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: chin strap and hops back up and runs to the huddle. Instead, 425 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: now seven flags come out, It's like, oh, is he okay? 426 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: Is he okay? And I get it the league doesn't 427 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: want to get sued. They're making too much money. But 428 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: let's face it, that's never how the game's ever been 429 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: officiated up until recently, because you just put your offensive 430 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: player in harm's way. And now that's the big benefit 431 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: why playing quarterback. What Tom Brady said is dead on 432 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: the money. It's never been easier. The rules are on 433 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: your side. So it's like, hey, Caleb, now you've got 434 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator. They drafted Rome, you got dj under contract, 435 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: you got col combat like, you got real players on offense. 436 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: I mean, look what Jaden's dealing with. You got Terry 437 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: McLaurin then, who like a backfield by committee, A McCaffrey 438 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: brother who played like three different schools in college. You 439 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: got Brown's not bad from unc Ertz is thirty eight 440 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: years old. I mean, what are we talking about? And 441 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: so it's like, hey, you're the guy that everyone was blowing, 442 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: not this guy. The Bears didn't even bring this guy 443 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: in for an interview, and Adam Peters got just barbecued 444 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: for bringing in all five of them. It's like, isn't 445 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: that his job to scout all these guys ultimately picked 446 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: the right one? Who cares if he took all five 447 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: of them to top golf? You just get to know them. 448 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: That's his job. It's pre draft process. So I think 449 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 1: if Jayden just keeps playing a well, it's like this 450 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: is a problem. Yeah, I'm I'm just fascinated to watch 451 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: this all play out. So congrats to the Bears got 452 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: the number one guy. It's crazy, like you see another 453 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: I saw a headline the Colts have hired lou Ammaruno. 454 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: Coordinator hires. When a head coach hiring happens, you know, 455 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: a head coach is a ten out of ten. A 456 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: coordinator higher feels kind of irrelevant, even though like that's 457 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: a good hire. I think lou Aramruno is a good 458 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: coach and clearly the the Colts are desperate for defense. 459 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: Congrats to the Bears. 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At John Middlecoff is 491 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: the Instagram. Fire in those dms, get your questions answered 492 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: here on the show. And yeah, let's talk, because easiest 493 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: way to get a hold of me my Instagram dms. 494 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: Fire in them, and we will start with Sam, how 495 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: badass is this Eagles RAMS game? I'm with you on 496 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: winter football games. They're the absolute best. Just chilling on 497 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: my couch watching these two teams to see who's mentally 498 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: tougher in addition to physically better. Can't beat it. I 499 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: saw aj Brown said that he wouldn't wish it upon 500 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: his worst enemy to have to play in those conditions. 501 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: I've told the story, I think before, but it's not 502 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: really even a story. You know, when you're a scout 503 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,719 Speaker 1: or what you work for a team usually on game day, 504 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: and I would say the Eagles are probably more buttoned 505 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: up in terms of like what our dress code was. 506 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: Then some teams always jealous, like the Packers in the 507 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: Raiders and kind of wear whatever you want, but you know, 508 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: you wear a suit to the games. Only had one 509 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: at the time, And I remember when it first started 510 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: getting cold, probably about November, and you show up in 511 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: the suit and on the East Coast and for those 512 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: of you listening that live there, you guys have those 513 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: big overcoats, right, so you have your coat and then 514 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: you have that long kind of like trench coat thick 515 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: that just keeps you warm. Like I didn't even know 516 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: what that was. We never have those in Calibari. You 517 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't even need them. At most we had like a 518 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: ski jacket. You know, if you hunted like a hunting jacket, 519 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: but you wouldn't have those like nice kind of corporate coats, 520 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: right to either go to work or take your lady 521 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: out for a night on the town. And I remember 522 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: being on the sideline getting there like two hours before game. 523 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: I couldn't feel any part of my body. I had 524 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: to go to the heaters because it was so cold. 525 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: And that's the cool part about Philly is like it's 526 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: the best part about the good teams in the NFL 527 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: right now, the Chiefs, the Bills, the Ravens, obviously the Eagles, 528 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: you just the Packers. Forever. You just get conditions, and 529 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: conditions don't always have to be snow or rain. It 530 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: could just be it's seven degrees you cannot feel your body, 531 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: and then you factor in the snow. That first scene 532 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: when Saquon bust his first run and scores a touchdown 533 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: and as he's kind of he entered the end zone 534 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: on the left side and then he kind of hung 535 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: a right and ran down the end zone and the 536 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: snow just started falling. I'm like, this is about to 537 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: be badass, cool moment for the Eagles to win that 538 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: game in the snow awesome moment, I thought too for 539 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: the Rams to play like that in the conditions, just 540 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: a fantastic viewing experience, I like in the Super Bowl. 541 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: I'm recording this part before the National Championship. Totally understand 542 00:28:54,840 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: putting those things in a controlled environment. But plaf games 543 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: first round, second round, third round, give me the candittis 544 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: all day long. Question for the back. With Ben Johnson 545 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: becoming the new head coach of the Bears, do you 546 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: think he'll be a success like McVeigh or be Adam Gase? 547 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: Two point oh. I'd be stunned if he was Adam 548 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: Gase two point oh. I mean one thing with Adam 549 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: Gase is he was Peyton's guy, and Peyton was the guy, 550 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: like being his reference, calling everybody trying to get him 551 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: a job. And obviously he's smart and had worked for Sabin. 552 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: But Adam Gase clearly had some issues in terms of 553 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: just the interaction aspect, like struggle with the media. Struggle. 554 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: Just felt like he was just on the struggle bus 555 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: with certain things when it came to communication. It does 556 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: feel like Ben Johnson, if you would have watched his 557 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: press conference a year or two ago, probably a little 558 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: less confident than he was. I watched him a lot 559 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: this season, felt like he grew into himself. And listen, 560 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: he's thirty eight, thirty nine years old or four years ago, 561 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: no one even knew who he was, so it takes 562 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: some time. I would say Sean McVay, it'd be pretty tough. 563 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: Sean McVay is a one to one. Just his energy, 564 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: his his vibe. I mean, Sean McVay is an outlier. 565 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: I would say, best case scenario, he's more Kyle. The 566 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: thing with Kyle is Kyle had been a had been 567 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator in the league for like ten years 568 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: before the Niners hired him, had been calling plays for 569 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: a long long time, and had been multiple places. So 570 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna see Adam Gase, but I 571 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: could you see Matt Naggy. Just it feels like this 572 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: is not going that well potentially. If I was gonna 573 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: bet is it gonna be successful or fail? I would 574 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: just bet fail. My favorite football podcast, If the Eagles 575 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: lose this weekend, do you think Howie would swoop into 576 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: the Ben Johnson sweepstakes. I'd love to see the Eagles 577 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: have an offensive mind start steering the sho we let 578 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: Shane syken get Away would love to see this. This 579 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: was this morning, which clearly isn't gonna happen. I think 580 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: the moment they won that Packer game and we're just 581 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: in the second round and he won another playoff game, 582 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: Sirianni was coming back. Sirianni was coming back. Assume I 583 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: want to see what happens with Kellen Moore. There was 584 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: a report out today that Schottenheimer might get the Cowboys job, 585 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: which to me feels a little crazy. But trying to 586 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: keep track of what Jerry's gonna do is like what 587 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: a waste energy. So maybe Kellen, maybe he's trying to 588 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: do that to mess with Kellen Moore. Kellen Moore's asking 589 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: for too much. But I think in a perfect world, 590 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: if you're Howie, you just bring back this entire team 591 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: and both your coordinators are feeling pretty good. Question for 592 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: the mailbag, big fan, big Eagles guy from California. I 593 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: understand Mahomes and Allen play a different sport than Jalen. 594 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: There's no disputing that, but after this divisional round, they 595 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: all had pretty much the same stat line, Yet Jalen 596 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: gets criticized for not being able to throw, and the 597 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: other two are praised for winning. Why do you think 598 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: the media shifts in the way that these quarterbacks are discussed? 599 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: Thank you well. I would say that their history as 600 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: throwers is just a little bit longer. I mean, Mahomes 601 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: could have a game where they win throws for seventy yards. 602 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: Like once you rattle off three Super Bowls, you've won 603 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: a couple MVPs. Like we've seen it. He doesn't have 604 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: to prove anything anymore. Like he's not in the prove 605 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: it mode, he's in the win it mode. Starts stacking 606 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: up chips. Josh Allen is a pretty long resume of 607 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: throwing a lot of touchdowns and being a dynamic thrower 608 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: of the ball. So on an individual game basis, we're 609 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: not gonna ebb and flow with a take. You know, 610 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,239 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, I don't know, ran for multiple touchdowns and 611 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: played awesome football in a game where his team, let's 612 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: face it, probably isn't as talented as the Ravens. So 613 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: like I'm just judging it differently when you watch Jalen, 614 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: I give everyone in that game a little bit of 615 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: a path because of the conditions. But I think big picture, 616 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: we have to question, like Jalen is not the thrower 617 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: of these guys. And I don't mean like when he's 618 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: scrambling around and throws the ball down the field, like 619 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: he can throw the ball. I just mean as a 620 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: consistent passer within the pocket. I think we have to 621 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: acknowledge it's not really his game. Luckily, he's on a 622 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: team that's so fucking stacked it doesn't matter all the time. 623 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: Love and intern Jackson. The fact that he pestered you 624 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: on the golf course and you gave him a shot 625 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,719 Speaker 1: he had I think he had picked my brain. I 626 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: had picked his brain. We had done some golf videos. 627 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: My guy named Luis, who's camera guy who I had 628 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: asked Jackson for some advice. People he knew that are 629 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: kind of in that world because Jackson's follow him on Instagram. 630 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: Jackson's hustling, and so he pointed me in a direction. 631 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: He was just he just came up to me. I 632 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: was hitting some golf balls and I realized the guy 633 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: was passionate. You could feel it, and hell I was 634 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: once that guy. Just a lot of passion. This is 635 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: a good question. Question when you lost your hair, did 636 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: you go through any period of grief or such as 637 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: being anxious about it. How old were you when you 638 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: committed to shaving it? Watching your content and hearing you 639 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: discuss it in a matter of fact way really helped 640 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: me get over losing my hair to join the bald brotherhood. 641 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: I think for most men that are having some follicle 642 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: challenges at any point in our life. I started losing 643 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: my hair in college. I remember being at cal Poly, 644 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: not listening in class, probably reading the newspaper, the cal 645 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: Paly newspaper, not like a newspaper I don't even know 646 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: if those exists on campuses anymore, and just looking down 647 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: and seeing hair fall out. And I came from a 648 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 1: family of bald men, so and I think it comes 649 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: from your mother's side. Well, her dad was bald, and 650 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 1: everyone on her side was based bald. My cousins were bald. 651 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: I knew I was in trouble, So yeah, I mean 652 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,439 Speaker 1: I was insecure or anxious, you could use any way 653 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: to describe it. For years, you hold on and then 654 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: you just get to a point where it's like, what 655 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: are we doing? And you just shave it? And you know, 656 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 1: I think the thing you're most insecure about any young 657 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: person listening to this that's kind of going through that, 658 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: which I imagine is a decent amount. Is you're like, 659 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 1: especially if you're single, like can I still get laid? 660 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: Like our girl's gonna want to go out with me? 661 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 1: Like that's probably your biggest insecurity. Uh, And just am 662 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: I gonna look funny? Because I like when I was 663 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: in junior high and in high school, I had a 664 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: buzzed head A lot of the time. I felt like, 665 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: but you don't even it's not even crossing your mind, 666 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: like how I look with this or without that? And 667 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: then you get a little older, you grow your hair 668 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: out a little bit, and it just becomes Then you 669 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: get you know, in the professional world, and you know, 670 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: you put some gel in there, and all of a 671 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: sudden he starts going away. So you just you don't 672 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: really have a choice. Sometimes I mess with Marie. I 673 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: act like I'm gonna get go to Turkey and get 674 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 1: the plugs I've I mean, it feels like all the 675 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: rage right now, everyone flying over there getting plugs for 676 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: like four or five thousand dollars. Really and really, if 677 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: you do it with them, I think they take care 678 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: of you. I've heard is very intriguing. But then I think, well, 679 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 1: then I'll just be another guy with hair. So the 680 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: bald's in right now. Especially in the podcast world, the 681 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: number one podcaster is a bald guy, obviously the rock. 682 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm just gonna ride the bald wave. 683 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: I shaved it with like a buzz basically had like 684 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: a zero probably for a couple of years before I 685 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: took I took like the mock three or five razor 686 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: to it, which is now I do just shave it today. Actually, 687 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: question for the back twenty six year old dairy farmer 688 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: from Wisconsin. Do you think there are a lot of 689 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: NFL front offices that, rather than playing for championships, are 690 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: trying to play it safe and just be competitive to 691 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 1: keep their jobs. Seems like big swings can win you 692 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,439 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl or get you fired if they don't 693 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 1: work out. I think there are a lot of guys 694 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: who hesitate to put their nuts on the table and 695 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: take a big swing because they are worried about losing 696 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: their job. Yes, and they would rather just be a 697 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 1: competitive eight to nine tennis win team compete for a 698 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 1: wild card than ever have the upside of being a dominant, 699 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: dominant team because if it backfires, it could be a disaster. 700 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: And that's I would say, making big trades. I mean, 701 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 1: I mean, look, when McVeigh got to the Rams, they 702 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: started taking big ass swings. They started swinging for the fences, 703 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: and it took a while for it to work, but 704 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: it eventually did. Andy Reid's been taking big swings since 705 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: he got the Eagles job. I mean, you go look 706 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: back to Terrell Owens and he's never been afraid of that. 707 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: And are they all gonna work out? Of course not, 708 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: but you cannot be afraid to mix it up. And 709 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 1: that means that goes both ways. Trade for a player, 710 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: or trade a player or away. And I think the 711 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: younger and younger the GMS get, I do think the 712 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: more inclined they are. One The money's pretty big right now. 713 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: So if I become a GM and I sign a 714 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: four year contract at four million dollars a year, you know, 715 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: after taxes or whatever, I got three or four million 716 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: dollars for sure in the bank. And obviously I've been 717 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: an assistant GM. I'm a g I'm making a lot 718 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: of money. So like, even if I do get fired, 719 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be okay, and my family's gonna be Okay, 720 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: they can. My kids can still go to private school. 721 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: We had a nice house. We're gonna be okay. But 722 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: if I make a swing and this works, I'm gonna 723 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: get it. Took balls. It's probably easier for Andy than 724 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: it was for Veach, but I think Veach has been 725 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 1: around Andy so long. When they traded Tyreek Hill, it's like, damn, man, 726 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: this is that's pretty ballsy and it's the best thing 727 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 1: that they've done. I would say, minus Patrick Mahomes of 728 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: the Run and Beach was, you know, making seven figures 729 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: at the time, but now he's going to make a 730 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: lot of money, contract extensions, huge raises because of what 731 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,879 Speaker 1: happened these last two years into now. So I mean, 732 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: look at Howie. I mean, people, whenever the Eagles go 733 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: through tough times, you know, the finger gets pointed to him, rightfully, so, 734 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: but look at how good he is. Like anyone could 735 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 1: have had Saquon Barkley for like thirty It's like, okay, 736 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 1: he wanted to go to the Eagles, true, but they 737 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: were offering him twenty seven million dollars guaranteed. Someone could 738 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: offered him thirty eight forty. Anyone in the top eight 739 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 1: could have drafted Jalen Carter, Zach Bond. All these defensive 740 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: coordinators watched him as a free agent. They could have 741 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: been like, you know what, we should move him positions. 742 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: Gotta have balls, I think once you're making a lot 743 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: of money. I always do this in gambling, you know, 744 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: Like if I have one hundred dollars bet and it's 745 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: parlayed and it's gonna pay me like five grand, I 746 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 1: always let it ride for the most part because I'm like, well, 747 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: the high of watching this event is worth it for me. 748 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: On losing one hundred dollars, I'm basically paying one hundred 749 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: dollars for the entertainment, and every once in a while 750 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: they hit, it's an incredible feeling. But if I bet 751 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: ten grand and I have the chance and it's getting 752 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: weird and I have the chance to cash out mid 753 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: game just to get my money back, sometimes I do 754 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: that because I don't want to lose. Not like I 755 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: bet ten grand on games. Let's say, biggest bets I 756 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: usually make are like up to five grand. I bet 757 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: four thousand dollars on Penn State. That sucked, But I 758 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: should have cashed out there at one point in time 759 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,439 Speaker 1: when they were up but I was like, I thought 760 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: they were gonna win, and then it backfired and I 761 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: was furious for like forty eight hours. And that's lost 762 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: a decent amount of money. I mean, I'm not just 763 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 1: throwing around four grand on Penn State. I'm still pissed 764 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,399 Speaker 1: at them. Luckily, I battled back this weekend and got 765 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 1: about half of that back. But I think part of 766 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: it is and you take a risk, like what is 767 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: on the line and forever, like losing this job. In 768 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: the nineties, you know, gms weren't multi millionaires, so it's like, 769 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: I want to keep this job for a long time. 770 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: But you become a multi millionaire, it kind of changes. 771 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: You've got something to fall back on, so you might 772 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 1: as well. I don't want to say Gopher broke because 773 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: you don't want to make bad decisions. You don't want 774 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: to be an idiot, But you also, like, what's the 775 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 1: whole point of this? Try to win? Like that's why 776 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: everyone gets into this business to try to win games 777 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 1: or Super Bowls. Right, Like Borgazi leaves the Chiefs to 778 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: go to the Titans. Probably a lot easier for him 779 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: to make that move. It's like, well, he's got a 780 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: bunch of rinks. I mean, the guy's been to a 781 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: lot of Super Bowls, won three rinks. So even if 782 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,760 Speaker 1: he's got to pack up his office and leave before 783 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,439 Speaker 1: this season ends, it's easier to do it when you've 784 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: won three super Bowls in the last five years. If 785 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 1: you hadn't won one, you're like, well, I'm making a 786 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: lot of money being Vich's number two. Is this the 787 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: right job? Well, I've already won three super Bowls. We've 788 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: been to another one, Like, is a fourth one really 789 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: gonna change my life? I'm making Let's just pick a 790 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: number nine hundred thousand dollars as the number two. The 791 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: Titans are offering me a five year contract at three 792 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 1: and a half four million dollars a year. That's gonna 793 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: change my life. I get to It's not like I 794 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: got to go to some shitty city. I get to 795 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: go to Nashville as a Super Bowl champ and run 796 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 1: the organization. So I think everything is based on timing. 797 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: And if you're him, like you've already won, You've made 798 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 1: a lot of money. Now you might as well. You 799 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 1: don't have to do it right away, but over the 800 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: course of like twenty four months, you should have an 801 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: idea if something pops up that I think could be 802 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: a game changer, I'm gonna think long and hard about 803 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: pulling the trigger. Very sad Ravens fan. I agree with 804 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 1: your take with Colin that Lamar played well. I think 805 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 1: my take was he played better than he has in 806 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: the past. Right in the past he was atrocious, he 807 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: was not. He was good in the second half. I 808 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 1: mean he was good on that final drive. He looked 809 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: much more like himself at points yesterday than he has 810 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: in previous games. But the turnovers were killer. You said 811 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: it with another coaching loss. So my question is do 812 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,879 Speaker 1: the Ravens move on from Harbaugh and try to get 813 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: a fresh voice in the locker room. I'm thinking about 814 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 1: how the Eagles won after getting rid of Andy and 815 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 1: if it would help. If not, what can the Ravens 816 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: do to get over the hump. Thanks for the quality content. Yeah, 817 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: I really thought yesterday was they had a little success 818 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: on that first drive throwing, and I actually think that 819 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 1: ended up being their demise because they stuck with the 820 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,720 Speaker 1: past so much throughout the game. Whor it's like, guys, 821 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 1: hand the ball to twenty two, have Lamar keep it. 822 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,280 Speaker 1: Do the game plan that you just did against the Steelers. 823 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: Try to run it fifty times for four hundred yards 824 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: and win the game, even if the score is not 825 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: as high, win the game twenty forty twenty. But it 826 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: was like, now we got to pass, we got to pass, 827 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,240 Speaker 1: and what happened He made a killer mistake on throwing 828 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 1: the pick. Now they ended up not getting points out 829 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: of that pick, if memory serves me correct, But still 830 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: that ruined the possession and obviously the fumble. I watched 831 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: Lamar after the game, who was obviously I don't want 832 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 1: to say. I would say Dan Campbell was distraught. I 833 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 1: would describe Lamar as being pissed off, and rightfully so. 834 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,839 Speaker 1: I mean, he knows what was on the line, and 835 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 1: he was really mad at himself, and he took accountability 836 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: and ownership on the interception. He called it awful, didn't 837 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: look off the safety and throw it right to him. 838 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: And he said on the fumble, He's like, it was 839 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 1: an RPO. So I couldn't throw it because our linemen 840 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: were downfield, and I just tried to make a play 841 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 1: and the ball slipped out of my hands. But that 842 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 1: play slipping out of his hands. Von Miller picks it 843 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: up that that did lead to a touchdown and it 844 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,280 Speaker 1: went to fourteen to seven, which was a deciding moment 845 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: in the game. So when I see these people arguing 846 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 1: defending Lamar or whatever, he was better than he has 847 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: been in the past. But in that moment, this is 848 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,359 Speaker 1: where the coaching thing. Why wouldn't you have just ran 849 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 1: it NonStop? How about the two to two point conversions? 850 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 1: I saw John Gruden on a clip talking about, like 851 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 1: listen in the in the freezing cold, in that moment, 852 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: that guy's exhausted. Obviously he should catch the ball. He's 853 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: paid fourteen to fifteen million dollars when he's healthy. Mark 854 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: Andrews is I don't know, I mean a top four 855 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,359 Speaker 1: or five tight end in the NFL definitely has been 856 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,359 Speaker 1: throughout points in time of his career. He's a really 857 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 1: good player. He's a winning player. But like there's a 858 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: margin forreerr there. We have seen that player, not specifically 859 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: that player, but in situation falling back dropped the ball. 860 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 1: It's cold, it's harder to grip. How would they not 861 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 1: run it twice? With Derrick Henry, who looks like he's 862 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: in the prime of his career in this game, he 863 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,760 Speaker 1: was awesome in this game. It was like, keep handing 864 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 1: him the ball. He's bigger than their defenders and he 865 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: looked fast. To me, the first two pointer where Milano 866 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: tipped the ball and they didn't that was crazy. They 867 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: literally scored by just rushing it right down the field, 868 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: and then they get to the two point they call pass. 869 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 1: It's like, well the guy was open. Yeah, he didn't 870 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: complete it because the ball was tipped. Hand the fucking 871 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: ball off. I don't think John Harbaugh is gonna get fired. 872 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,360 Speaker 1: I think John Harbaugh's good, but I think offensively, what 873 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 1: I don't understand about John Harbaugh. If that was Jim, 874 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: they would have ran the ball forty times and they 875 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: would have won an ugly game. I don't know understand, 876 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: like what's going on. Just run the ball. Just did 877 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,800 Speaker 1: it against Pittsburgh, your bitter rival, and you just bludgeon 878 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: them to death. Why wouldn't you do that against the Bills. 879 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: I don't get it, And I do think it gets 880 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 1: back to on that first drive when they score a 881 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,760 Speaker 1: touchdown with Lamar making some passes, They're like, oh, he's 882 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: gonna be fine today. It's not about that. Just just 883 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 1: win the game. That's why the Bills played like that. 884 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 1: We're not gonna turn the ball over. We're gonna get 885 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 1: into an ugly game once we got the lead. Play smart, 886 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: no picks, no fumbles, hold onto the rock. I mean, 887 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 1: why the Rams loose awful turnovers down the stretch. If 888 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 1: you were Titans fan, what would you say they should 889 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: do with the first overall pick in order to maximize 890 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 1: their chance of getting back in the playoffs in the 891 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 1: next few years. You know, their new GM was with 892 00:47:54,600 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 1: the Chiefs during the Patrick Mahomes draft time, right. He 893 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,760 Speaker 1: was there when they drafted Patrick, so he knows about 894 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 1: the conviction in that office when it came to that player. 895 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 1: Brian Callahan was in Cincinnati when they drafted Joe Burrow 896 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 1: number one overall. So both these guys have seen quarterbacks 897 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,799 Speaker 1: change the lives of everyone around them. Brian Callahan is 898 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 1: the head coach of the Tennessee Titans because of Joe Burrow. 899 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 1: Mike Borganzi is the general manager of the Tennessee Titans 900 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: because of Patrick Mahomes. Obviously there are other variables there, 901 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,359 Speaker 1: but they'd be the first to tell you that Joe 902 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 1: Burrow and Patrick Mahomes are the most important players in 903 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 1: the history of their career as coaches, so as the 904 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: number one pick, if you don't have one hundred percent 905 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 1: conviction to take cam Ward, I would not do it. 906 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,799 Speaker 1: I would not do if there are questions, I'm not 907 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 1: risking it because for as awesome as Burrow and Mahomes 908 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 1: and some of the we have seen other guys destroy 909 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 1: people's career and literally rail it. So I would have 910 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 1: no problem. I don't care what the media says. I 911 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 1: would just sell my owner on this. We don't like 912 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 1: this guy enough. If we don't, and if you do 913 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 1: draft him, But to me, that is the number one conversation, 914 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 1: do we take this guy number one overall? I don't 915 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 1: think you can take Shador Sanders number one overall, and 916 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,439 Speaker 1: I don't think he would go one overall. I think 917 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 1: he's I think when the dust Sattles will end up 918 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: going somewhere between like three to ten. I think a 919 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 1: lot of people struggle with guys like him who physically 920 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 1: like he's not Jade Lamar athlete by any means. Hell, 921 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 1: he's not even bo Nix as an athlete, and his 922 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,399 Speaker 1: arm is like, okay, it's like Jared Goff. And again, 923 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm a Chador fan. He's a good player. But when 924 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 1: you take guys like that number one overall, it's it's 925 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 1: pretty risky. I'm much more inclined to take the Traites 926 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 1: guy number one overall. But again, like I gotta like 927 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: the guy. I had a scout text me the other 928 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: day like, I couldn't take cam Ward in the top fifteen. 929 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 1: So all all these players, they're gonna be people with 930 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,399 Speaker 1: second round grades on these guys. There were people last 931 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,239 Speaker 1: year with Pennix and bo Nicks that thought they were 932 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 1: second rounders. So like, you gotta be cool if you 933 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 1: also pass on them. That like cam Ward is going 934 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 1: to go to another team and he could be awesome. 935 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 1: So it's like, do you have enough conviction to do 936 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 1: that and live with it? Hell, the forty nine ers 937 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: and the Bears passed on Patrick Mahomes. How'd that worked out? 938 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: Not good? So I would I would spend the majority 939 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:39,239 Speaker 1: of my energy over these next month of evaluating cam Ward. 940 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,719 Speaker 1: I bet Borgazzi has watched him, but nowhere near Like 941 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,359 Speaker 1: they were never gonna draft him Kansas City. So it's like, yeah, 942 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 1: I've seen him on some cross tapes. Maybe I wrote 943 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,280 Speaker 1: him up, but did I really study him? I'm talking 944 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 1: about really studying. It's like Adam Peters last year when 945 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 1: he went to Washington, I think he said during his 946 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 1: introduction press conference, like, yeah, I just I need to 947 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 1: really watch these quarterbacks because he hadn't washed them in 948 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 1: San Francisco to the level in which you have to 949 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,200 Speaker 1: watch them. And then at the end of the day 950 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 1: he made a decision. And that's the hard part about 951 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: this year. It's like Jayden Daniels, Drake may Kleb Williams, 952 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,359 Speaker 1: they all would go hiring these guys with Washington going 953 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,479 Speaker 1: for the NFC title after revamping their entire franchise top down, 954 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 1: we now see how important the big four of football are. 955 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 1: The owner, the GM, the head coach, and the quarterback 956 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,279 Speaker 1: are all four pillars of football. And if you could 957 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 1: pick your current fantasy big four, who would it be interested, Well, 958 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 1: there's just not a better one right now than the Chiefs. 959 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 1: I don't even think that's arguable. You know, for twenty 960 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 1: years it was Robert Kraft, it was Bill Belichick coach, 961 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 1: and GM and Tom Brady, and right now I think 962 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 1: it's clearly Clark Hunt, who I don't even know what 963 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 1: he's necessarily doing, but it's if the owner is just solid. 964 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,160 Speaker 1: He's not like he's not really influencing football. He can 965 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,399 Speaker 1: ruin football, but he can just be solid and stay 966 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 1: out of the way. And that's what I think Clark 967 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 1: does a lot of the time. You know, it's Andy 968 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:16,400 Speaker 1: Mahomes of beach. Is it even close? I think the 969 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 1: Bill's really been underrated. I really do. With McDermott, Josh 970 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,879 Speaker 1: and Brandon Bean like they've done a really really good job. 971 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 1: They really have. I mean they have been. This is 972 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 1: they're what third AFC championship or second in twenty twenty 973 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 1: they lost to the Chiefs in the AFC championship game 974 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:41,360 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. That's they lost the thirteen second 975 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 1: game in the AFC Divisional round. Last year, obviously they 976 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,240 Speaker 1: lost in the division round. So this is the second 977 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,400 Speaker 1: time they have played the Chiefs four times in the 978 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,799 Speaker 1: playoffs since twenty twenty. I said it to Colin. I'll 979 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 1: say it again, like this is the new rivalry Bill's Chiefs. Now, 980 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,879 Speaker 1: it's been one sided. Can the Bills finally win? If 981 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 1: you believe that you can get the Bills as an underdog. 982 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 1: I've been telling my buddies to start listening to you. 983 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,839 Speaker 1: I like you, Steve question, why did you ever get 984 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 1: into scouting in the NFL? Seems like a well paying 985 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 1: profession and would you ever go back to it? Just 986 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 1: surprised because you seem really knowledgeable regarding NFL players. It's 987 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 1: actually not a great paying job. It is once you 988 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,440 Speaker 1: start working your way up. You know, my buddies now 989 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,399 Speaker 1: that are in their mid thirties or early forties are 990 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,320 Speaker 1: making good livings. But when you first get into scouting, 991 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 1: you are not making much money. You know, when I 992 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,399 Speaker 1: first got hired with the Eagles, I made twenty five 993 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. My second year pro scouting, I made forty five. 994 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 1: My third year I made fifty. And you know I 995 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 1: was twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine. So my friends 996 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 1: just in private sector, in sales, working in tech, I mean, 997 00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 1: we're making hundreds of thousands of dollars at the same age. 998 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't even I was by far the 999 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 1: poorest guy I knew of all the people I went 1000 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,719 Speaker 1: to college with. Wasn't even close. So you make a 1001 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,840 Speaker 1: lot of money once you get to a certain level, 1002 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,719 Speaker 1: like once you become the college scouting director, once you 1003 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,440 Speaker 1: become the number two, like an assistant GM, you make 1004 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 1: seven eight hundred thousand dollars. But I think the average scout, 1005 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 1: like just a college scout, I bet the average is 1006 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 1: low six figures, which again is not a bad living, 1007 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,319 Speaker 1: but this is not a nine to five job. So 1008 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,360 Speaker 1: if I'm paying you one hundred and ten thousand dollars 1009 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: and you're thirty seven years old and you have a 1010 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,800 Speaker 1: wife and a kid, it's not like you're home a lot. 1011 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:46,760 Speaker 1: You're working non You're working seventy eighty ninety hour weeks. 1012 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 1: You're going to games on the weekend all the time. 1013 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,880 Speaker 1: Like it is a fucking grind. Even if you're making 1014 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,440 Speaker 1: let's say you're a longer tenured guy and you're making 1015 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty two hundred grand, like relative to 1016 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,839 Speaker 1: the time, you are spending a lot of time, and 1017 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 1: I mean a ton of time six seven months of 1018 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,560 Speaker 1: the year. I mean you're having ninety one hundred hour 1019 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,319 Speaker 1: weeks also gone you know part of that is you're 1020 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:17,360 Speaker 1: driving or flying or traveling. Like it's I bet most 1021 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 1: professions given like working for these billion dollar corporations, given 1022 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 1: the time, if you worked, if you did the same 1023 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,759 Speaker 1: thing at Goldman Sachs or did the same thing at 1024 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 1: Tesla or whatever. You would be making four x what 1025 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,200 Speaker 1: you make working in football up until you get to 1026 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 1: a certain level. And even then, like once you become 1027 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,400 Speaker 1: the college director, Okay, now you're making four hundred and 1028 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,720 Speaker 1: five hundred thousand dollars. You are still working insane hours. 1029 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,040 Speaker 1: That's the thing. Like coaches, it's like, okay, yeah, you 1030 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,919 Speaker 1: work crazy hours. The quarterback coach is making nine hundred 1031 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 1: and fifty grand, The offensive coordinator is making two and 1032 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,799 Speaker 1: a half three million dollars. You know it's it's the 1033 00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Like Vic Fangiel's, Okay, works eighty hours a week, 1034 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:04,360 Speaker 1: he's making five million dollars, Siriani. People question what he's doing. 1035 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 1: He's probably making seven and a half eight Kevin O'Connell's 1036 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,840 Speaker 1: mad because he's making seven and a half wants to 1037 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,760 Speaker 1: make fourteen. You make a lot of money in coaching. 1038 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:20,319 Speaker 1: Coaches make dramatically more than scouts. And I would say 1039 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 1: scouts don't work as much hour wise during the season 1040 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 1: because coaches hours are insane. But like if you're out 1041 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 1: of the playoffs right now, you're on vacation, like you 1042 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:35,239 Speaker 1: get several weeks off. Scouts work January work, February work, 1043 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 1: March work, April. Okay, they work, so they work basically 1044 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 1: double the amount in terms of months. Just stand it 1045 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,359 Speaker 1: up for my people. It's a hard job. It really is. 1046 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:49,840 Speaker 1: And then the other thing is like, if you're a 1047 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,960 Speaker 1: good coach, right, if you're a quarterback coach and you're 1048 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,719 Speaker 1: making seven hundred fifty grand and you're thirty two years 1049 00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 1: old and your quarterback starts bawling, everyone starts interviewing you 1050 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 1: to become an offensive coordinator. But if you're like the 1051 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,759 Speaker 1: SEC scout for your team, like you do the South, 1052 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,359 Speaker 1: and you're awesome, Like you're like nine out of ten, 1053 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 1: like you're a stud, Like you're like you know what 1054 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:19,080 Speaker 1: you're doing. Who beside people on your team know, no 1055 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 1: one outside like on another team's no. So unless your 1056 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 1: agent's kind of gassing you up or you know some 1057 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 1: people in the media, no one knows how good you are. 1058 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 1: It's a weird profession. But no, I'm not going back 1059 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,440 Speaker 1: well like doing this. This. This was my colleague and 1060 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 1: I just got into it randomly because I got you know, 1061 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 1: I played high school football. I just loved it. I 1062 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 1: mean I was terrible, but I just being with your friends, 1063 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 1: the sport, the practices. It was just there was something 1064 00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,600 Speaker 1: special about it. And I love football well before I 1065 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 1: ever started playing it as a young kid. And then 1066 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 1: you go to college and you realize you and playing 1067 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,400 Speaker 1: sports your whole life, and you kind of have this void. 1068 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 1: And I just kind of got back involved with the 1069 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 1: athletic department at cal Poly, and I kind of got 1070 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,840 Speaker 1: involved with the football program, and it just kind of, 1071 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:17,000 Speaker 1: I would say, organically took off from there. Why are 1072 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,960 Speaker 1: they are only three teams running the tush push? The 1073 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,240 Speaker 1: play is almost unstoppable, and now the Ravens have shown 1074 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,480 Speaker 1: it can be run with a tight end under center 1075 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 1: to eliminate the injury risk to the quarterback. Well, okay, 1076 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 1: let's take the Chiefs, because I guess you're saying that 1077 00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:40,120 Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders do it with Mariota. The Eagles do 1078 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 1: it obviously with Jalen. The Ravens do it with Mark Andrews. 1079 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:50,200 Speaker 1: The Bills, I would say, do variations of it with Josh. 1080 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:54,120 Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs Mahomes has gotten injured on the 1081 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,440 Speaker 1: quarterback sneak before, and I'm sorry, like I'd rather punt 1082 00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,880 Speaker 1: than have Mahomes get hurt. Who would do that for 1083 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:05,120 Speaker 1: them if you remove Mahomes. It's not really Kelsey's thing, 1084 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 1: you know, I mean 's Mark Andrews is just different 1085 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,880 Speaker 1: body type, especially at this point in time. Could you 1086 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 1: have like Kareem Hunt do it, He's never done anything. 1087 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 1: I just don't know who on the Chiefs would do it. 1088 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 1: Could you just have could Chris Jones take the snap? 1089 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,920 Speaker 1: Current graduate student from intern Jackson's all matter the University 1090 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:31,000 Speaker 1: of Montana, go grizz. I'm a lifelong Cowboy fan, and 1091 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,040 Speaker 1: as my dad grew up and filled my head with 1092 00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 1: the stories of the good old days from the nineties 1093 00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:39,200 Speaker 1: my whole life, they've been mediocre. My question for the 1094 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 1: pot is this, realistically, what are the incentives that Jerry 1095 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,840 Speaker 1: and the Cowboys ownership has to get back into Super 1096 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 1: Bowl contend contention? He has brilliantly positioned them as being 1097 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 1: this relevant in the media world, and always with the 1098 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 1: increased TV money, he is just printing cash no matter 1099 00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,000 Speaker 1: who our next coach is. I seriously doubt Jerry's desire 1100 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 1: to bring us back in the Super Bowl contention. PS 1101 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 1: tip for navigating waste management during the weekend. Coming down 1102 01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,320 Speaker 1: with some buddies and we'll be on the course Saturday. 1103 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,200 Speaker 1: Probably gonna skip the sixteenth hole as we don't want 1104 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 1: to wake up at four am. But any tips, what 1105 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 1: holds the camp out at or the nightlife after the 1106 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 1: sun goes down something we can do best. I used 1107 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,680 Speaker 1: to would have said the Front nine, but I would 1108 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,600 Speaker 1: say one thing. Over the last couple of years. I 1109 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 1: feel like, even if I'm just not even there and 1110 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,200 Speaker 1: turn on the television in the morning, the front nine 1111 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 1: is packed. But I would say nine, eight, seven, six, 1112 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:44,040 Speaker 1: if you're able to get some passes into some cool situations. 1113 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to beat seventeen and eighteen. That's 1114 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,960 Speaker 1: it's already up right now. It's like a it's like 1115 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,240 Speaker 1: one gigantic bar. But if you don't, you just have 1116 01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,960 Speaker 1: general admission. I think the Front nine go like hoole 1117 01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 1: nine backwards. I think is tough to beat. Twelve probably 1118 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,200 Speaker 1: underrated part three, and you can see them coming in 1119 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,360 Speaker 1: on eleven hitting into that green as well. It's cool, 1120 01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,400 Speaker 1: hopefully the weather it's not, as it's not as cold 1121 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:16,960 Speaker 1: this year. I would say I think Jerry, like Jerry 1122 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 1: definitely wants to win a Super Bowl. I think every 1123 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,720 Speaker 1: human being would agree that if you said, Hey, Jerry, 1124 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,520 Speaker 1: do you want to win a Super Bowl? When he 1125 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:27,160 Speaker 1: says yes, he's not lying. So I take Jerry at 1126 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 1: face value if he wants to win a super Bowl, 1127 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,280 Speaker 1: but he wants to do it his way, Like look 1128 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 1: to their inner Leslie Frazier, Brian Schottenheimer, what is this 1129 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:46,600 Speaker 1: real life? Robert Sawa? What are we doing here? That's Jerry. 1130 01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:50,320 Speaker 1: He's gonna do it his way and it doesn't work 1131 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,960 Speaker 1: at the highest level. Like they've had successful seasons. Like 1132 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,720 Speaker 1: you said, they're a well run business. They're a well 1133 01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:02,200 Speaker 1: run entertainment entity. But when it comes to well he 1134 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,280 Speaker 1: do absolutely anything he can to win a Super Bowl? No, 1135 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:09,000 Speaker 1: he won't. And I think if you're a Cowboy fan, 1136 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,280 Speaker 1: you almost just got to ride it out. You just 1137 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 1: got to ride out this Jerry dak era, which I 1138 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:20,080 Speaker 1: think probably already peaked. I mean, do they have twelve 1139 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,960 Speaker 1: games in them this upcoming season? I would say probably not. 1140 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:28,280 Speaker 1: I think the big question mark this offseason is would 1141 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:32,240 Speaker 1: they trade Michaeh Parsons And would that be the right 1142 01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 1: move to trade Michaeh Parsons for a couple first round picks? 1143 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:37,880 Speaker 1: Like would you trade him with the Detroit Lions for 1144 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 1: their two ones. Who knows, maybe not. Would you trade 1145 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:43,960 Speaker 1: him to an AFC team? Would you trade him to 1146 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. You pick a team that would be interested. 1147 01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,440 Speaker 1: I think you'd have to think long and hard about it. 1148 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,080 Speaker 1: I actually think he makes some sense for like the 1149 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,440 Speaker 1: Washington Commanders, but I don't think if you're Jerry, you'd 1150 01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,160 Speaker 1: trade him there. He makes a lot of sense for 1151 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,120 Speaker 1: the Commanders, actually, but I just don't think you can 1152 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:08,240 Speaker 1: do that. So I think you're kind of stuck in 1153 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,840 Speaker 1: this mold of kind of is what it is. And 1154 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:16,520 Speaker 1: there's a circus element to your team that years like 1155 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:20,120 Speaker 1: this feel bigger than the actual team, which kind of sucks. 1156 01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,000 Speaker 1: But that's kind of Jerry's m O. It's like he's 1157 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 1: it's almost like he's Martin Scorsese or Steven Spielberg, right, 1158 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:32,640 Speaker 1: Like he likes directing the show more than he cares 1159 01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,560 Speaker 1: about like at the end of the day, what happens 1160 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:39,840 Speaker 1: to the movie. He likes being in there pulling some strings, 1161 01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:42,760 Speaker 1: making sure the picture looks like he wants to look 1162 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:46,440 Speaker 1: like the picture, whether that's gonna be a good movie 1163 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,440 Speaker 1: or a bad movie. He just wants it to be 1164 01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,360 Speaker 1: an entertaining movie. And he will never give up that 1165 01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 1: director's chair. He's never given up the GM spot. He's 1166 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,200 Speaker 1: never gonna be an absentee owner. At this point in time, 1167 01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:03,040 Speaker 1: I remember when they first from Hard Knocks. I think 1168 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,080 Speaker 1: the Ravens were the first ever team on Hard Knocks 1169 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 1: and maybe the Cowboys were the second. And Jerry gives 1170 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,480 Speaker 1: a speech at the beginning of training camp that was 1171 01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,120 Speaker 1: essentially like I could be anywhere in the world right now, 1172 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,120 Speaker 1: but I choose to be here with you. I think 1173 01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,760 Speaker 1: that sums up Jerry very well. He likes telling you 1174 01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,560 Speaker 1: like I don't need to do this. It's like, yeah, Jerry, 1175 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,760 Speaker 1: but you are doing it. Yes, you could be in Milan, 1176 01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 1: you could be in Australia, you could be fucking wherever 1177 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,800 Speaker 1: the hell you want to be. But you're always gonna 1178 01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 1: be by the Cowboys, because that is at this point 1179 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,600 Speaker 1: in time and up until you die, the identity of 1180 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,280 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, and not just like I'm the owner of 1181 01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:46,560 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I control the Cowboys when we make a signing, 1182 01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,680 Speaker 1: when we make a trade, when we make a coach 1183 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,720 Speaker 1: hire is what I want to do. What happened to 1184 01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:55,360 Speaker 1: the reports early on when they fired McCarthy. Jerry's kind 1185 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,000 Speaker 1: of going solo. He's just calling people. Can you just 1186 01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,880 Speaker 1: see Jerry in his office with like even going dad, 1187 01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:05,160 Speaker 1: let's just can we just do something normal here. But 1188 01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 1: anyone who's been around I've never been around a billionaire 1189 01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,400 Speaker 1: or eighty year old, but I've been around some successful 1190 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:14,280 Speaker 1: older people. They usually get more stubborn. I mean they 1191 01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:18,040 Speaker 1: don't usually lighten up and give in that. It usually 1192 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:23,000 Speaker 1: gets worse if they're that hands on, and it's I 1193 01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:26,440 Speaker 1: think we have some examples in recent NFL history. It 1194 01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,240 Speaker 1: could get a lot uglier like that. That that potential 1195 01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:32,680 Speaker 1: for that to happen, it's one hundred percent on the table. 1196 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 1: The volume