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Speaker 3: A business side, it's I mean United Healthcare in itself

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Speaker 1: the biggest news that I've seen. There's so much crap

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Speaker 1: Can you kind of explain what's going on, what the

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Speaker 8: Well, there are a lot of questions here, Joe, Bob,

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Speaker 8: these renovations, this could be even more ammunition to boot

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Speaker 8: Yeah, of course, this is definitely going to be top

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Speaker 1: That is that is fascinating, and it's also this would

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Speaker 1: Thank you CBS, who's been making a bunch of news

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Speaker 1: Steve Kuklo, Guys, this I think is so well. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it's the same reason you just mentioned the Late Night Shows,

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Speaker 2: the same reason they're getting rid of Colbert. Financially, it

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Speaker 2: is not salient, it makes no sense, right, So I

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Speaker 2: think they're what they're doing right now is really just

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Speaker 2: about the finances rather than about any kind of pressure,

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Speaker 2: because I don't think that Donald Trump is wielding necessarily

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Speaker 2: any pressure over these companies, they just so they actually

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Speaker 2: have to act in line for the first time in

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Speaker 2: a long time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Steve kind of similar along the same lines,

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Speaker 1: like they're saying, hey, we're gonna put all of these

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Speaker 1: different policies in place to ensure that we're compliant with

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Speaker 1: all of the new administration and what they're wanting to

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Speaker 1: do again, it seems to me like they're trying to

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Speaker 1: just get approval from the FCC, and the way they're

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Speaker 1: doing that is reverting back to sanity. It's not going

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Speaker 1: that far out of their way to do things that

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Speaker 1: are just completely in Trump's favor. It's really just, hey, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna stop being racist in or hiring practices,

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Speaker 1: which is good among a couple other things. Am I

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Speaker 1: missing something here? Is that kind of what you see too?

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Speaker 3: No, that's exactly what I see. And I mean, CBS

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Speaker 3: is just proving that DEI is just a checkbox that

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Speaker 3: it was never It's never something that really should be

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Speaker 3: in place to begin with. Like you say, but I

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Speaker 3: think ultimately in CBS, if more values matter, it's really

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Speaker 3: until the stock prices otherwise, you know, this deal is

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Speaker 3: like about an eight billion dollar deal. So you know,

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Speaker 3: they're trying to clean things up and trying to make it,

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Speaker 3: you know, get the approve like you said, So you know,

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Speaker 3: I guess so much for values, you know, until it's

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Speaker 3: gonna cost too much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Yeah, they hold strong to those diversity, equity

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Speaker 1: inclusion ideas, but it might actually hurt our bottom line.

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Speaker 1: So maybe we're gonna go back to it. This is

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Speaker 1: this is an interesting change. This is kind of a

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Speaker 1: tough transition to make, just because of the story content.

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Speaker 1: But there was a new report that I thought was fascinating,

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Speaker 1: and Briann, I would love to hear both of you.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to hear your take on this. A new

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Speaker 1: study published Wednesday in the Medical Journal of Clinical gastron

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Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna try to attempt to pronounce those

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Speaker 1: very big scientific words, basically said that the risk for

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Speaker 1: women drinking alcohol has doubled over the last two decades. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and it's become a much bigger problem than it ever

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Speaker 1: was in the past. Not not to downplay at all,

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Speaker 1: but usually drinking problems had to do with men. Women

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Speaker 1: have completely caught up to men in the last couple decades. Brianna,

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Speaker 1: what's going on here? Culturally. And I recognize this could

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Speaker 1: be like a three hour podcast to dissect the various dynamics,

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Speaker 1: but what's your take here?

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Speaker 2: This is the equality that women want. If you know,

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Speaker 2: men usually have high rates alcoholism, suicide, women are catching

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Speaker 2: up right, No more importantly, I think young women in particular,

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Speaker 2: there is an increased problem in depression and an isolation

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Speaker 2: because they have a worldview that says that, you know,

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Speaker 2: being in a relationship, being married is a burden, having

488
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Speaker 2: children is a trap. And so they're increasingly becoming lonely

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Speaker 2: old women and they have no one to rely on.

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Speaker 2: And I do think that one drives them to drink more.

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Speaker 2: And then when you talk about them drinking a lot, Look,

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Speaker 2: women have been pushed through things like birth control, all

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Speaker 2: different types of birth control methods actually, which have horrible

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Speaker 2: consequences for the female body. And I have no doubt

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Speaker 2: that the more that we prescribe these drugs, these you know,

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Speaker 2: contraceptions to women and you combine it with alcohol, it's

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Speaker 2: absolutely having adverse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's Steve. I'm going to read your statistic that

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Speaker 1: I thought was awful alcohol related deaths, this again from

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Speaker 1: NBC among women more than doubled from nineteen ninety nine

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Speaker 1: to twenty twenty, so over the course of twenty years,

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Speaker 1: alcohol related death doubled amongst women. I kind of feel

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Speaker 1: like this is a much bigger cultural issue than we're

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Speaker 1: giving it any credit for. But I don't know, do

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Speaker 1: you see any sort of rebound from this.

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Speaker 3: Well, bringing it to light is the number one is

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Speaker 3: the start of fixing something, saying hey, there's a problem,

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Speaker 3: we need to address it. And the fact that this

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Speaker 3: has come out saying women's drinking are drinking more than ever.

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Speaker 3: So there's a true health fallout to this. When you

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Speaker 3: look at they're saying, now alcohol is just not something

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Speaker 3: you do to have a little fun or to relax

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Speaker 3: or whatever they're saying. There's a lot of consequences drinking alcohol.

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Speaker 3: It's now a potential risk for causing cancer. You look

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Speaker 3: at a lot of the mental issues that come of this,

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Speaker 3: the liver issues. You know, we've glamorized things like wind

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Speaker 3: down Wednesdays or wine o'clock, and you know we're glamorizing

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Speaker 3: these bad behaviors. You look at even like glamorizing people

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Speaker 3: that are overweight and unhealthy and are at metabolic risk.

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Speaker 3: For a lot of disease, like this is a disease

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Speaker 3: that needs to be addressed, and you know it's they've

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Speaker 3: they've celebritized alcohol. And you look at what alcohol does

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Speaker 3: in general. It doesn't do any doesn't bring your body

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Speaker 3: any value. And I look at things like what brings

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Speaker 3: me value, what's gonna be what's gonna help me be

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Speaker 3: more energetic, be more focused, be more present? Alcohol does

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Speaker 3: everything opposite of that. I have a drink. You know,

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Speaker 3: maybe when I was twenty, I could have a drink

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Speaker 3: and I could be fine, or at forty, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I have a drink. In the next two days, I

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Speaker 3: feel like crap. So I don't even you know, I

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Speaker 3: don't barely ever touch the stuff. Maybe have a celebration

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Speaker 3: drink here and there kind of thing. But I'm not

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Speaker 3: a person that is pro alcohol. I work with a

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Speaker 3: lot of people in their health constantly. One of the

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Speaker 3: questions I do ask them is, you know, how many

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Speaker 3: drinks do you have a week?

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Speaker 10: Is this?

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Speaker 3: Because I could look at somebody's budwork and their liver

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Speaker 3: enzymes are elevated, and that may be something They're having

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Speaker 3: one or two drinks tonight, and I'm like, listen, this

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Speaker 3: is just the start of it. You may not feel

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Speaker 3: anything right now, but long term, we're looking you know

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Speaker 3: what you do right now. You may not realize in

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Speaker 3: a year it's not going to do anything, but you

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Speaker 3: look like you said, ten twenty years, you look at

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Speaker 3: some decades down the road. That's where these issues start

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Speaker 3: popping their head up. That's when you start having issues

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Speaker 3: like when in the Alzheimer's dementia where it's like this

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Speaker 3: doesn't happen overnight, this happens over ten twenty thirty years

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Speaker 3: of poor health and then all of a sudden you're

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Speaker 3: having issues with that. So this needs to be addressed,

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Speaker 3: like we need to have I think COVID was a

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Speaker 3: big catalyst for people to kind of get in some

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Speaker 3: bad habits. COVID really cause people to, hey, the world's

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Speaker 3: going to end, I have no others, I'm bored, I'm home,

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Speaker 3: and this and that, and then you know, all these

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Speaker 3: bad habits, whether it's drinking or drugs and or combination

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Speaker 3: of all of them really started and it's there's this

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Speaker 3: needs to be addressed. There needs to be more education

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Speaker 3: on it that it's not a good thing. It's not like, hey,

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Speaker 3: you need to have a drink in order to sleep.

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Speaker 3: Like any I track my sleep very diligently. If I

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Speaker 3: have a drink, my sleep is wrecked that night, And

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I value my sleep too much to be

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Speaker 3: even having an alcohol. So there's a lot of health

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Speaker 3: health markers that need to be like, hey, this is

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Speaker 3: gonna happen if you do this again. We're going back

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Speaker 3: to consequences.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it seems to be a recurring theme here

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Speaker 1: in the modern world. But hey, I appreciate both of

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Speaker 1: your insight into all of those fascinating stories from around

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Speaker 1: the world. Steve and Brionna, thank you guys so much

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Speaker 1: for joining. Really appreciate you taking the time.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 11: What are some of the most common myths about the

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Speaker 11: pelvic floor that you wish people knew were false?

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Speaker 12: I would say the first one is pregnancy. That you know,

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Speaker 12: when giving birth, people think your pelvic floor pushes the

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Speaker 12: baby out, and that is false. Your pelvic floor needs

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Speaker 12: to get out of the way, it needs to relax

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Speaker 12: and move aside. It's actually your uterus that is contracting

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Speaker 12: that pushes the baby out. And so this is why

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Speaker 12: it's important when we're giving birth. The way that we

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Speaker 12: give birth now is most women over ninety percent have

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Speaker 12: in epidural which kind of numbs the lower half of

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Speaker 12: our body, and that's to help manage pain, which is wonderful.

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Speaker 9: We want pain relief so that women can be comfortable.

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Speaker 12: However, it also means you can't necessarily feel your contractions

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Speaker 12: and you can't push as efficiently, and so I think

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Speaker 12: understanding that you don't need to have these super strong

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Speaker 12: pelvic floor muscles to push a baby out. You actually

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Speaker 12: need to have really relaxed pelvic floor muscles. And so

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Speaker 12: that's why I'm so passionate about educating women during birth

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Speaker 12: that you know, we want to teach you how to

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Speaker 12: relax those muscles one pushing versus tighten them and think

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Speaker 12: you have to push so hard.

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Speaker 11: How does the pelvic floor change in menopause drastically?

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Speaker 12: And it actually changes prior to menopause during perimenopause. So

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Speaker 12: menopause by definition, is when you have not had a

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Speaker 12: period for one year and then you're officially in menopause,

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Speaker 12: and then after that you're considered postmenopausal. Prior to that,

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Speaker 12: your mental cycles are changing for months and years, so

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Speaker 12: you can be in perimenopause for up to ten years

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Speaker 12: before you hit menopause.

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Speaker 9: So I'm forty two and say I.

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Speaker 12: Go into menopause at fifty or hit menopause at fifty,

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Speaker 12: I'm already in that stage where my hormones are fluctuating.

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Speaker 9: I've got lower estrogen.

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Speaker 12: Levels, I've got lower testosterone levels, the collagen in my

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Speaker 12: skin is changing. So as those hormones are changing during perimenopause,

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Speaker 12: we have less pelvic floor support. So all we see

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Speaker 12: is maybe our hair changing or our skin changing or

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Speaker 12: changes in our periods, but your pelvic floor is changing

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Speaker 12: as those hormones change as well. You have more vaginal

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Speaker 12: dryness because estrogen lubricates the vagina. You have less pelvic

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Speaker 12: floor tone during perimenopause and menopause because estrogen also tones

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Speaker 12: the pelvic floor and plumps it up. You may have

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Speaker 12: weaker orgasms because you have less pelvic floor muscle strength

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Speaker 12: and kind of connection, and you have less pelvic floor support.

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Speaker 12: So what that means is you're at a higher risk

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Speaker 12: for what's called pelvic organ prolapse. So pelvic organ prolapse,

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Speaker 12: it sounds really scary, but it's when your organs aren't

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Speaker 12: as well supported by this hammock of muscles and they

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Speaker 12: start to drop into your vagina.

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Speaker 1: Yikes.

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Speaker 8: I know.

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Speaker 12: So a lot of women experience this after birth and

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Speaker 12: then in perimenopause and menopause because we don't have the

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Speaker 12: same collagen and strength to support the organs and everything

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Speaker 12: starts to drop.

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Speaker 11: Down like all of a sudden, there's just a rib

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Speaker 11: coming out. I'm just joking.

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Speaker 9: Or it's more like you feel a bulge in the vagina.

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Speaker 12: It feels heavy, you feel like the tissues rubbing against itself.

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Speaker 9: I know, and so it's really common.

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Speaker 12: You know, over fifty percent of women you know, after

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Speaker 12: the age of I think it's fifty can experience pelvic

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Speaker 12: corkan propubs to a really mild extent. But again, if

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Speaker 12: we don't address strength training, if we don't strengthen our muscles,

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Speaker 12: if we don't address the changes, then it will only

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Speaker 12: get worse because postmenopause we have like no stores of estrogen,

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Speaker 12: testosterone and collagen, and then things are just like you know,

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Speaker 12: going down the drain.

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Speaker 9: Do keegels work they can.

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Speaker 12: Kegels are such an interesting thing to discuss because I

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Speaker 12: feel like, growing up, it's always.

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Speaker 9: About our pelvic floor.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, do kegels for better sex, Do kegels for a

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Speaker 12: tighter vagina.

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Speaker 9: Do kegels to stop leaks.

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Speaker 12: And it's boiling down a complex part of the body.

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Speaker 12: To say like, do this one thing to get a result,

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Speaker 12: it's like saying, oh, you have back pain, just do crunches,

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Speaker 12: right when we know that it's really.

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Speaker 9: How you move, how you breathe, how.

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Speaker 12: You relax that's involved. Kegels are a pelvic floor muscle contraction.

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Speaker 12: So say you're going pe and you want to stop

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Speaker 12: your earin stream and you tighten your muscles, that's a kegel.

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Speaker 12: Or you need to pass wind in an elevator and

672
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Speaker 12: you're trying to hold in a fart, that's a kegel.

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Speaker 12: It's tightening the front and the back, contracting and lifting

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Speaker 12: the pelvic floor up. However, what's equally important is relaxation

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Speaker 12: of that muscle. You can't walk around doing a kegel

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Speaker 12: all day to tighten your pelvic floor, right. It's like

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Speaker 12: you don't just bend your elbow and tighten your bicep

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Speaker 12: to get strong biceps.

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Speaker 9: You have to contract and relax.

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Speaker 12: And you have to use the muscle in different positions,

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Speaker 12: so in sitting, in standing, while walking, while lifting, all

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Speaker 12: the functions we do throughout the day, because that's when

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Speaker 12: we leak. We don't just leak sitting in a chair

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Speaker 12: or sitting in the car poll lane in our car.

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Speaker 12: So you want to use the muscle when you need it.

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Speaker 12: Work on quick contractions and longer hold contractions because it's

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Speaker 12: an endurance muscle as well. But also make sure that

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Speaker 12: you need kekels. A lot of women have tension and

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Speaker 12: spasm and kekels could make their problems worse.

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Speaker 11: How does the pelvic floor play a role in either

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Speaker 11: giving you a weak orgasm or the best orgasm of your.

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Speaker 9: Life, a huge role.

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Speaker 12: So you know, arousal and orgasms are. They're definitely a

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Speaker 12: mind body connection. So in order for blood to start

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Speaker 12: flowing and lubrication to occur in the vagina there, you

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Speaker 12: need to have arousal, which could be you know, physical touch,

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Speaker 12: it could be watching something, could be reading something, it

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Speaker 12: could be thinking about something, So that is arousal. And

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Speaker 12: then as blood starts to flow to the vagina in

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Speaker 12: the volva and the pelvic floor muscles, they kind of

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Speaker 12: get to a heightened state of contraction. So that is

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Speaker 12: where we start to think about having an orgasm. So

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Speaker 12: the muscles are engorged with blood and then you reach

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Speaker 12: a climax and your muscles contract and relax during an orgasm.

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Speaker 12: An orgasm is the contraction and relaxation cycle of your

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Speaker 12: pelvic floor.

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Speaker 9: So if you have.

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Speaker 12: Weaker orgasms, it could be that your public floor muscles

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Speaker 12: are weak. This happened to me after giving birth. I

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Speaker 12: had an orgasm. I was like, did that even happen?

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Speaker 12: Like you can't like radio well over pretty quickly. Sometimes

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Speaker 12: if you can't have an orgasm. Your muscles could be

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Speaker 12: too tight or tense where they just can't get that

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Speaker 12: blood flow there to get to that heightened state of climax.

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Speaker 12: So again it really depends if you have tension or

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Speaker 12: if you have weakness. Also, can you relax? Are you

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Speaker 12: an environment where your nervous system is common?

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Speaker 9: Relax?

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Speaker 12: If we're in a really heightened environment where our nervous

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Speaker 12: systems are firing over time, like, that's not going to

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Speaker 12: help with orgasms. So it is a mind body connection.

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Speaker 12: But your pelvic floor muscles need to be an optimal

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Speaker 12: shape to have great orgasms.

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Speaker 9: Does posture have anything to do with pelvic floor? Yes,

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Speaker 9: and we should probably across our legs, and we're talking about.

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Speaker 11: That really Okay, no crossing legs.

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Speaker 9: I know, I know, I do it all the time. Obviously.

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Speaker 12: Yes, we are at a time in our culture where

729
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Speaker 12: we sit a lot, and when we sit, we're stagnant,

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Speaker 12: so you're not getting great blood float to your pelvic floor.

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Speaker 12: So people always say, like, what's the best what's the

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Speaker 12: best posture for your public floor? I'm like, the next one,

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Speaker 12: because you want to be moving. I really tell people

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Speaker 12: to get up every half hour every hour to take

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Speaker 12: a walk to get a sip of water to elevate

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Speaker 12: their standing desk, because we need blood float of these muscles.

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Speaker 12: The other thing is when we're sitting, we're like this right, yeah,

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Speaker 12: our pelvis is tucked under, we're slouched, our back is rounded.

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Speaker 12: Your publc floor muscles sit at the base of your

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Speaker 12: abdominal cavity, so if they're crunched, you can't contract and

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Speaker 12: relax those muscles really well. To get relaxation of the muscles.

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Speaker 12: And then also when you cross your legs, if you

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Speaker 12: turn your knees in like this, if you twist your

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Speaker 12: legs up in a pretzel like this, oh my.

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Speaker 9: Gosh, that's how I sit.

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Speaker 11: I know my team the other day notice that for

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Speaker 11: the first time because I wrapped my legs twice around

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Speaker 11: each other when I cross my legs, and they're like, what,

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Speaker 11: how are you even doing that? And I was like,

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Speaker 11: I thought everybody could do this, and so yeah, they'd

751
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Speaker 11: never even seen that.

752
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Speaker 9: But that's really bad.

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Speaker 12: It's not bad, but it can contribute to pelvic floor

754
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Speaker 12: muscle tension. Okay, you know when you think about like

755
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Speaker 12: if you have to pee and you squeeze your legs together,

756
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Speaker 12: or you know, little kids have to go to the

757
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Speaker 12: bathroom and they like turn their legs in. Turning your

758
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Speaker 12: legs in or your thighs in helps contract your public floor.

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Speaker 12: So if you're sitting that way a lot and you

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Speaker 12: have pelvic floor tension, it could be a contributing factor.

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Speaker 12: So I often look at how people are sitting, how

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Speaker 12: they're standing. When we're moms, we just like have a

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Speaker 12: baby on the hip all the time, and that kind

764
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Speaker 12: of makes our thighs go in and can cause imbalances

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Speaker 12: in our peblic floor.

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Speaker 1: thought this was really interesting. This is both the best

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Speaker 1: video I've ever seen and the worst video I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: I think you'll understand why when we're watching it. It's

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Speaker 1: rather long, but I think all of it's important because

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Speaker 1: you got to see the shock on these people's faces.

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Speaker 1: Check this out Clip one.

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Speaker 13: So we're gonna take a guess.

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Speaker 14: Who can guess within the last three years how much

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Speaker 14: I have had to pay payroll taxes to just be

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Speaker 14: able to pay you guys, which all worth it. But

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Speaker 14: this is how much I think I've paid.

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Speaker 3: Eat.

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Speaker 13: Payroll tax is a tax that I pay to pay you.

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Speaker 5: Thus, if that.

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Speaker 14: Makes years three, I'm gonna say sixty thousand.

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Speaker 9: I think eighty thousand.

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Speaker 13: That's not one hundred thousand.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go eighty five.

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Speaker 14: Ninety okay, one away, and Leona, how much you think

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Speaker 14: in the last three years that had to pay in

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Speaker 14: payroll taxes?

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Speaker 8: I do?

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Speaker 13: Okay, alrighty drum, do you want.

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Speaker 2: To guess thousand, two hundred and.

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Speaker 13: Seventy two thousand dollars to the US government just to

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Speaker 13: pay people that you will also pay your taxes on

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Speaker 13: as well. And then when you go to buy something,

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Speaker 13: you will also.

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Speaker 14: Be I worry that you are purchasing, you're also and

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Speaker 14: then you get paid and then your paychecks half of

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Speaker 14: that because you're also paying taxes. And then when you

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Speaker 14: go to purchase something, you will be paying taxes and.

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Speaker 2: Be pay for the same thing.

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Speaker 13: The US dollars tax tax one million times before it

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Speaker 13: even ends up in someone.

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Speaker 2: So go to war for taxing you know how?

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Speaker 10: Yep, me too.

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Speaker 1: No, there is not much that needs to be said

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Speaker 1: there other than, like I said, this is the best

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Speaker 1: video I've ever seen in explaining how much freaking money

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Speaker 1: goes to the freaking government in payroll tax and then

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Speaker 1: when they get paid their's income tax, and when they

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Speaker 1: spend that money, there's there's a sales tax. And at

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Speaker 1: the same time, Yeah, obviously the worst vide I've ever seen,

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Speaker 1: the best and the worst in the same videos. But wow,

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Speaker 1: that's can do it for us here at turning Points Tonight,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk is gonna take us out with the culmination

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Speaker 1: of the Israel Palestine debate from the Student Action Summit.

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Speaker 1: We will see it tomorrow, same time, same place, God

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Speaker 1: bless America.

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Speaker 5: Is Israel influencing American power? So I'm gonna start with Josh,

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Speaker 5: and then we'll go back to Dave. You say Israel

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Speaker 5: is an ally, spend a minute on that, and then

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Speaker 5: address how some people have concerns that Israel is influenced

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Speaker 5: in the US government, and.

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Speaker 6: Then I'll allow Dave to have some time.

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Speaker 15: Josh, all right, there's multiple reasons why Israel is an

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Speaker 15: ally first and foremost. You know, I think most people

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Speaker 15: in this room are believers of some stripe, right, I

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Speaker 15: am Jewish, most of you are are probably Christians, and

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Speaker 15: God bless you for that. If you have any attachment

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Speaker 15: whatsoever to the Holy Size, if you have any attachment

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Speaker 15: whatsoever to this narrow strip of land between the river

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Speaker 15: and the sea, as the Hamas propagandists call it, then

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Speaker 15: you're going to have some reason to care about this

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Speaker 15: particular sliver of land. That's point number one. Let's just

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Speaker 15: kind of get out there, especially if you understand that

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Speaker 15: we and Western civilization are fundamentally at war with barbarism,

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Speaker 15: Barbarism being best represented by the Islamists and Sharia supremacist.

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Speaker 6: When you understand the Western.

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Speaker 15: Civilization really just is the Bible, there is a special

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Speaker 15: calling to have an ally with a certain part of

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Speaker 15: of the Middle East.

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Speaker 6: That's point one.

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Speaker 15: Point two is just the Islamist deterrent point Charlie, which

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Speaker 15: is that America has faced jihadism time and time again,

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Speaker 15: going back for forty to fifty years, nine to eleven.

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Speaker 15: Obviously the most tragic example we just saw it again

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Speaker 15: on the streets of Bourbon Street in New Orleans on

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Speaker 15: January first, just a few months ago. There, If you

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Speaker 15: care about deterring Islamism from conquering Western civilization, a point

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Speaker 15: that you have very astutely been talking about a lot

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Speaker 15: recently on your TV hits on social media, a very

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Speaker 15: very important point. If you care about defending Western civilization

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Speaker 15: from the barbarians, you absolutely have to place a special

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Speaker 15: premium on this particular relationship. And then third is that

878
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Speaker 15: if you actually care as I do. You know, paradoxically,

879
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Speaker 15: I actually care a lot about China. In fact, I

880
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Speaker 15: think that America is by far number one biggest threat

881
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Speaker 15: this century is China. If you care about effectuating this

882
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Speaker 15: broader pivot to the Indo Pacific, as American foreign positive

883
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Speaker 15: people have been talking about for twenty thirty years now,

884
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Speaker 15: you have to have some way of stabilizing the Middle East.

885
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Speaker 15: The way to do that is not to just adopt

886
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Speaker 15: the stupid and acid nine Barack Obama forum polo of

887
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Speaker 15: appeasing America's enemies. And the way to do that is

888
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Speaker 15: to embolt in your allies. Again, that is the Trump doctrine.

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Speaker 5: So we didn't get to the second part of the question.

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Speaker 5: So do you wanted to start on the ally and

891
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Speaker 5: then we'll do Yeah, you can incorporate both.

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Speaker 10: Day.

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Speaker 6: He had two answers in a row, so take three

894
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Speaker 6: to four minutes.

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Speaker 16: Well, look this idea that the great battle of our

896
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Speaker 16: time is US versus the Islamists, US verse these barbarians.

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Speaker 10: You know, that's really the problem here in the United

898
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Speaker 10: States of America, Lebanon, that's what you gotta worry about. Listen.

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Speaker 16: I think everyone here, all you guys should know this

900
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Speaker 16: at this point.

901
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Speaker 10: Our problem in America.

902
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Speaker 16: Is the deep state of the United States of America.

903
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Speaker 10: Okay, they're the ones.

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Speaker 16: They're the ones who framed Donald Trump for treason, his

905
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Speaker 16: own intelligence agencies frame the sitting US president. And you

906
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Speaker 16: know what that deep state wants, by the way, permanent war.

907
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Speaker 16: That's what they always want. That's how they and their

908
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Speaker 16: friends make their money. And so all of this talk

909
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Speaker 16: is just so ridiculous, man, I mean this talk about

910
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Speaker 16: how like if you care about the Holy sites in Israel, Like, okay, sure,

911
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Speaker 16: obviously Christians and Jews and Muslims have a connection to

912
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Speaker 16: that land, but that doesn't mean we have to bomb

913
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Speaker 16: Iran for Israel.

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Speaker 10: That doesn't Well, we just bombed around. That was the

915
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Speaker 10: first topic. Okay, okay, anyway.

916
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Speaker 16: There doesn't mean that we have to support Israel slaughtering

917
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Speaker 16: people in Gaza. None of that has anything to do

918
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Speaker 16: with the Holy Sites, and in fact, a lot of

919
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Speaker 16: sites get destroyed when there's bombs flying.

920
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Speaker 10: But listen, the real problem for America.

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Speaker 16: If you want to even talk about like the Islam,

922
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Speaker 16: Islam taking over America or taking over.

923
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Speaker 10: Europe, well, how did that happen?

924
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Speaker 16: That happened because we completely destabilized the region, fighting war

925
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Speaker 16: after war after war that did nothing but slaughter hundreds

926
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Speaker 16: of thousands of people. And then our Western governments had

927
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Speaker 16: the most insane open immigration policy that was basically suicidal.

928
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Speaker 10: U doing this to ourselves.

929
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Speaker 16: We're thirty seven trillion dollars in debt and we're.

930
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Speaker 10: Looking for another enemy to go fight.

931
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Speaker 16: Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, we've spent twenty

932
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Speaker 16: trillion dollars on empire and wars. And you know what,

933
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Speaker 16: we can't tax enough money to pay for it. We

934
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Speaker 16: can't borrow enough money to pay for it. So what

935
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Speaker 16: do we do. We print the money. And now you

936
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Speaker 16: guys are coming out into the world and you're wondering

937
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Speaker 16: why you're six figures in debt from college and you're

938
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Speaker 16: getting a job at DoorDash and the average house goes

939
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Speaker 16: for eight hundred grand because we've destroyed the currency, chasing

940
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Speaker 16: these monsters that were never any threat to our country.

941
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Speaker 16: So one quick point, Adolf Hitler and the Nazis couldn't

942
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Speaker 16: bring down America. Joseph Stalin and the Kammis couldn't bring

943
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Speaker 16: down America, the British Empire couldn't bring down America. But

944
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Speaker 16: you think the Hesblah and Lebanon are a threat to us?

945
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Speaker 10: They're a problem for Israel to deal with the.

946
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Speaker 15: Families of the Bayrout Barretts bombing in nineteen eighty three,

947
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Speaker 15: Seriously say that to them. Have you spoken to the

948
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Speaker 15: families of the people who have been killed in nineteen

949
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Speaker 15: eighty three and Beirut, Lebanon, the people who have been

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Speaker 15: killed by those IED's in a rot that you're just

951
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Speaker 15: casually just missing. Have you actually spoken to any these families?

952
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Speaker 15: First of all, yes, I have nine to eleven families,

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Speaker 15: any of them?

954
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Speaker 10: Yes I have.

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Speaker 6: Are you aware of even yeah?

956
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Speaker 17: Okay, so you're just asking me questions.

957
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Speaker 10: That's just stupid.

958
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Speaker 6: This is why I'm here.

959
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Speaker 5: So why don't we both just take a deep breath.

960
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Speaker 5: Because they want to see a debate where they can

961
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Speaker 5: make their mind up. They don't want to see interruptive stuff. Okay,

962
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Speaker 5: that's why this is going to be a different type

963
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Speaker 5: of discussion. So let me both steel Man, you're both arguments.

964
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Speaker 5: You have to answer to me.

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Speaker 6: Okay.

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Speaker 5: So Josh, well, actually today first and then to Josh,

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Speaker 5: Josh is saying, what about all of the Islamists death

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Speaker 5: that they're responsible for, be root bombings?

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Speaker 6: You mentioned the SHII.

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Speaker 5: That's basically the essence of your argument, right Josh by

971
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Speaker 5: saying did you talk to he's saying, why are you

972
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Speaker 5: minimizing this?

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Speaker 6: That would be Josh's contention?

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Speaker 10: Is that fair?

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Speaker 6: Josh? And nine to eleven? There's so many example right.

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Speaker 5: Dave responded that, and then I will throw it back

977
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Speaker 5: to Josh.

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Speaker 17: Well, I certainly don't think I in any way minimized

979
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Speaker 17: any of those deaths. I've made the point that around

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Speaker 17: that Ronald Reagan still sold weapons to Iran a couple

981
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Speaker 17: of years after that, and I made the point that

982
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Speaker 17: those roadside weapons were built in Iraq by sites there.

983
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Speaker 10: That's not minimizing it.

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Speaker 16: This is a huge part of the reason why we

985
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Speaker 16: never should have invaded Iraq to begin with, because we

986
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Speaker 16: get our bravest young boys killed. It's ten you know,

987
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Speaker 16: tens of thousands of them have committed suicide in the

988
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Speaker 16: last few years, and that doesn't seem to stop anyone

989
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Speaker 16: from wanting to pursue the next attack. So the point

990
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Speaker 16: is right that I think if we want to really

991
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Speaker 16: understand this stuff, it's wise to look at what some

992
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Speaker 16: of the motivating factors for the hatred against us.

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Speaker 10: It