WEBVTT - Always With The Vital Fluids! 

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and show Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Arms Strong and Katte and he Armstrong and Yetty.

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<v Speaker 3>I know how the public is going to be react.

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<v Speaker 3>He is going to react because I felt my own reaction.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I've spent years looking at videos of lethal

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<v Speaker 3>action taken often in the terrorism context, and this video

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<v Speaker 3>was profoundly shaking, shaken, and I think it's important for

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<v Speaker 3>Americans to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's another Democrat who saw the video of that

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<v Speaker 1>second strike on the boat and the two dudes in

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<v Speaker 1>the water, who was disturbed, highly disturbed.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he got Senator Tom Cotton on one of the

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday shows yesterday. He also saw the video.

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<v Speaker 4>They were not floating in the ocean on a wooden

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<v Speaker 4>playing or in life jackets. They were on the capsized vessel.

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<v Speaker 4>They were not incapacitated in any way. It was entirely

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<v Speaker 4>appropriate to strike the boat again to make sure that

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<v Speaker 4>it was cargo was destroyed. It is in no way

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<v Speaker 4>violation of the law of war. And I think the

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<v Speaker 4>Washington Post O Secretary Hexatt and especially Admiral Mitch Bradley

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<v Speaker 4>a highly decorated career Navy seal, and apology for that slander.

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<v Speaker 1>Not two guys in distress floating along hanging on to

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of wood. According to Tom Cotton, well, let's

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<v Speaker 1>here yet another point of view. This is representative Adam Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>he was on ABC this week, Cut fifty one.

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<v Speaker 5>Senator Cotton's description of it is simply not accurate. When

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<v Speaker 5>they were finally taken out, they were trying to flip

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<v Speaker 5>the boat over. The boat was clearly incapacitated. A tiny

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<v Speaker 5>portion of it remained capsized the bow of the boat.

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<v Speaker 5>They had no communications device, certainly they were unarmed. Any

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<v Speaker 5>claim that the drugs had somehow survived that attack is

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<v Speaker 5>hard to really square with what we saw.

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<v Speaker 1>How all these people could have been watching the same video.

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<v Speaker 1>And then one more, this is the Republican Senator Eric Schmidt,

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<v Speaker 1>Clip fifty two.

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<v Speaker 6>So President Trump is acting with his core Article two powers.

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<v Speaker 6>No serious legal expert would doubt that the president has

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<v Speaker 6>authority to blow NARCO terrorists out of the water who

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<v Speaker 6>are poisoning one hundred thousand Americans every year. And so

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<v Speaker 6>now what we have are Democrats who have such X

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<v Speaker 6>ray vision and clairvoyance that they know the intentions of

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<v Speaker 6>narco terrorists on boats, yet we're so blind to see

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<v Speaker 6>that they had a president for four years that was

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<v Speaker 6>operating as a vegetable in Joe Biden. So forgive me

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<v Speaker 6>if I'm a little skeptical that this isn't all about

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<v Speaker 6>politics and trying to take up secretary of HEXP.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously I play that for his reasoning of Oh, so

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<v Speaker 1>they can read the mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of those people floating in the water, but they couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>tell Joe Biden was senile, vegetable. Vegetable? Why I on

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<v Speaker 2>a clip thirteen, Michael, let's hear that real quickly.

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<v Speaker 7>This was over the weekend, someone, hope and get back

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<v Speaker 7>up and remember who in the hell we are. We're

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<v Speaker 7>the United States of America. That's who we are.

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<v Speaker 1>So while I found that humorous from Senator Schmidt, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that's particularly the best argument that leads me

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<v Speaker 1>to believe that you're Your evidence is not that good.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're falling on the Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>You can read the mind of the people flowed in

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<v Speaker 1>the water, but you couldn't see that Joe Biden was

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<v Speaker 1>a vegetable.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd rather don't attack the particulars of the Yeah, although

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed it a great deal. Yeah, yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel like this has legs. I'll tell you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, explain to me, because I was about to

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<v Speaker 1>say Mark Halprin's like Axium six of Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 1>Once there is pressure for something to come out, a

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<v Speaker 1>document or a video or whatever, it will come out.

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<v Speaker 2>It always ends up coming out. Yeah. So if the

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<v Speaker 2>video comes out video.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two, well then everybody's gonna see it or either

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<v Speaker 1>gonna agree with Tom Cotton or not, or do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it's gonna be one of those things that it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hard to tell what's going on, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>politics lead you to believe whoever you tend to side with.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, I think all those things are absolutely correct.

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<v Speaker 2>I would add to it that the professional media pretending

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<v Speaker 2>to be outraged crowd is outraged because they're always outraged.

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<v Speaker 2>But just in my personal experience, I have had virtually

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<v Speaker 2>nobody express a great deal of concern over this. They're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're drug cartels in real life. Yeah, a lot. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>including people who are harshly critical of Trump in a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of ways. I just don't think this has the

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<v Speaker 2>energy it would take to sustain it, and if it

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<v Speaker 2>does the factors you mentioned, and then they you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they blame somebody. They put the goats horns on somebody

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<v Speaker 2>and say, yes, he's been asked to resign. It's full

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<v Speaker 2>pension and everything else, and then it'll go away. That's

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<v Speaker 2>my suspicion.

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<v Speaker 1>The Wall Street Journal says, does the video of the

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<v Speaker 1>second tap show the two survivors waving to the US

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<v Speaker 1>planes for help or signaling to their comrades to save

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<v Speaker 1>the cargo.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it's gonna come down to when the video

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<v Speaker 2>finally comes out. I A the beholder. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you can read the mind the two people bobbing

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<v Speaker 1>in the ocean, but you couldn't tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden was a vegible for.

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<v Speaker 7>The United States of America.

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<v Speaker 2>Got it. That's who we are, the unine in States

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<v Speaker 2>of America, got it? Holy cow. In his big applause line,

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<v Speaker 2>there a vacant rhyme. Why what does he say in

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<v Speaker 2>that other one?

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<v Speaker 7>Michael mess for them in awak unless you want to back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a that's another good one. It's so argue

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<v Speaker 2>with that.

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<v Speaker 1>The Pentagon and the White House are in discussions about

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<v Speaker 1>releasing the video officials said, though there is no clear

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<v Speaker 1>timeline for its release. If it is, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>find it hard to believe it's going to be significantly

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<v Speaker 1>more easy to see what's going on than that first video.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same camera from the same angle right right,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's going to be kind of hard to tell

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<v Speaker 1>what you're looking at.

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<v Speaker 2>So why don't they just put it out? And you

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<v Speaker 2>can keep making the same arguments. I hate hate when

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with Adam schiff Show, the most dishonest man

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<v Speaker 2>ever to appear in government. He says, look, if the

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<v Speaker 2>Pentagon's so proud of its actions, release the video.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and even Trump said we ought to put it out.

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<v Speaker 1>We got it, we should put it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Cotton mentions why they might not inclip number forty four.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm told, okay, let's hear it. Do you think that

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<v Speaker 2>the video should be released in full to the American public.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have any problem with it. It's not gruesome.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't find it distressing or disturbing. It looks like

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<v Speaker 4>any number of dozens of strikes we've seen on jeeps

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<v Speaker 4>and pickup trucks in the Middle East over the years.

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<v Speaker 4>I will say that the Department may have valid concerns

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<v Speaker 4>about rebelling what we know about tactics and techniques that

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<v Speaker 4>these cartels are using, or about our sources of methods,

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<v Speaker 4>and I would trust Secretary Hecseth and his team to

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<v Speaker 4>make the decision about whether they can be classify and

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<v Speaker 4>release the video. But again, there's nothing remarkabout the video that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know if I love Tom Cotton, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen bunches. They've put out a bunch of those videos.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just a follow up. It might show our

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<v Speaker 2>techniques and strategies, and it's going to show a vote

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<v Speaker 2>getting exploded.

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<v Speaker 1>My guess would be that somebody would have to point

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<v Speaker 1>out to you where the two guys are in this picture,

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<v Speaker 1>and then afterwards there's nothing, although I heard one Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>describe it as two people clearly injured clinging to a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of balsa wood, waving for help, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>see an explosion and then the water turns red with blood.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I speak for a lot of people when

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<v Speaker 2>I say it's a little frustrating when you're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out what's actually happening and what's right and what's

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<v Speaker 2>wrong that each side of points like those whoever that was,

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Smith and then Adam Shift. They're on the all right,

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<v Speaker 2>go out there and say this is the most horrible

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<v Speaker 2>and outrageous thing that's ever happened on earth. We'll let

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<v Speaker 2>you know when to stop. And he just can't trust anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea if anybuddy who is just quoted

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<v Speaker 2>as being sincere, no idea. The guy sound Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 2>was a vegetable. That much is documented.

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<v Speaker 7>You've made it right ritten a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the guy sounded sincere who said is the most

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<v Speaker 1>disturbing thing he's ever seen in public life. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just find it hard to believe. I mean, unless you were,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, in the interior department. You don't seem

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<v Speaker 1>any disturbing things or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I can't imagine leaving that shelter to life that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we've all seen plenty of those drone videos.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the most disturbing thing you've ever seen, a Please,

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen dozens of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I think it would be you can't even

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<v Speaker 1>tell what you're looking at, then a flash, then whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you were looking at not really there anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming it's kind of what the video is going

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<v Speaker 2>to look like, well, if it's the flear video with

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<v Speaker 2>the heat what do you call infrared whatever, you can

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<v Speaker 2>see people pretty clearly, and you would see the blood

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<v Speaker 2>and all that. But I mean, he's never seen any

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<v Speaker 2>any Vietnam documentaries or or battle videos or one of

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<v Speaker 2>the dozens of dronings that Barack Obama did with impunity,

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<v Speaker 2>including a US citizen and an underage US citizen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in terms of getting worked up about this, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe this makes me a bad person, as you'd point out,

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<v Speaker 1>there are plenty of other things.

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<v Speaker 2>That make me a bad person. So we don't need

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<v Speaker 2>to lean on this. But sure, and I'm perfectly.

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<v Speaker 1>Willing to engage in the conversation of whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>the United States should be doing this and do we

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<v Speaker 1>have the evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>To prove and is it an active war and blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah, all that sort of stuff. I'm fine with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want constitutionality and I don't want presidents going rogue.

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<v Speaker 1>But just in general, if some guys working on a

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<v Speaker 1>Colombian or a Venezuelan drug boat got blasted, I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I should, but I.

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<v Speaker 2>Just don't care. Yeah, Yeah, you picked a pretty scary

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<v Speaker 2>line of work. Dudes, Well, in these narco states on,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not far from our borders, in our neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>They're a bad thing. They are. That's not something we

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<v Speaker 2>ought to be putting up with. It's difficult to stop.

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<v Speaker 2>But so yeah, like I said before, I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel like there's a lot of energy among normal Americans

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<v Speaker 2>who are trying to pay their damn bills and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>worried about the things we tend to worry about. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not outraged by this, They're just not. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a couple of Nebraska farmers who are trying to

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<v Speaker 2>bring in the harvest and they were accused of tax evasions,

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<v Speaker 2>so he blew the s up them.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, that'd be aggressive policy.

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<v Speaker 2>These are narco terrorists, I know. I said I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>use that term because I think it's pre judicial drone stakes.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of farmers on a tractor because they're back

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<v Speaker 2>behind on their taxes. They ought to check their deductions

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<v Speaker 2>before they signed the form. Huh, that's a I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like that's a very aggressive policy. Yeah, I would agree,

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<v Speaker 2>too aggressive. I don't know. I don't know about the

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<v Speaker 2>video put out.

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<v Speaker 1>The video let us all say I can't even tell

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on there and then move on with our lives, right,

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<v Speaker 1>or say, hey, probably shouldn't have blown the crap out

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys and we'll move on.

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<v Speaker 2>It's you know again, I appreciate your mentioning the constitutionality

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<v Speaker 2>of this and presidents going rogue that sort of thing

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<v Speaker 2>is it's it's serious. As we mentioned earlier in the show.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, more people have died at the hands of

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<v Speaker 2>their own government than a foreign power. It's not even

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<v Speaker 2>oh so you want to keep your government in check.

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<v Speaker 2>On the other hand, it reminds me a little of

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<v Speaker 2>the Koshogi thing. But for the rest of my life,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm supposed to have this sainted Islamist as an example

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<v Speaker 2>of why the Saudis can't be trusted. Please. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>monarchy that's caushous descent. They kill people. It's that baked

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<v Speaker 2>into the delicious sandy Saudi cake. You just have to

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<v Speaker 2>accept it and go forward. What's best for the country

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<v Speaker 2>moving forward. You can't boohoo over old man Koshogi for

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of your life, with all due respect to

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<v Speaker 2>the horror of his hand. And yeah, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Sauce designed for bones and whatnot. I've got a Santa

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<v Speaker 1>pool for the job. Huh, right tool for the right job. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a Santa question preferences that I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get to, among other things on the waist.

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<v Speaker 8>There, Columbia Sports where Is introduced a new line of

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<v Speaker 8>Star Wars based rain ponchos, like the ones worn by

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<v Speaker 8>the Rebels in Return of the Jedi, guaranteed to keep

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<v Speaker 8>you and all women dry as hell.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a little naughty, but I got hm mocking the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of person that's into Star Wars and their sexual.

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<v Speaker 2>Proclivities is what that is. So I got a question.

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<v Speaker 1>Feels a little dated to me, but I got a

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<v Speaker 1>Santa question for you. So there are two kinds of Santas,

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<v Speaker 1>and one kind has been growing a lot over the

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<v Speaker 1>last decades or so. So most of my Santa experience

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<v Speaker 1>growing up, and I'm talking about the Santa you meet

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<v Speaker 1>at the mall, and then also the kind of Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>decorations you have. It was kind of a campy, joky, cartoonish,

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<v Speaker 1>bright red.

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<v Speaker 2>Santa.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you've got the other kind that I usually

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<v Speaker 1>saw in like richer people's houses or whatnot. The much

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<v Speaker 1>darker red looks like an Eastern Orthodox priest Santa Father Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that it more a European Yeah, yeah, that look right?

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<v Speaker 2>Which do you prefer? I go, you're gonna yell at

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<v Speaker 2>me for this because you're a monster. I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like the variety of cultural norms involving Christmas. I love

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<v Speaker 2>center clause the Netherlands guy who comes with as David

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<v Speaker 2>Sedaris famously wrote about six to eight black men and

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<v Speaker 2>beats the hell out of you if you're a bad kid.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, Katie, you have a thought on this? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm talking about? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>I do like the I like the red the typical

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<v Speaker 8>one that you see.

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<v Speaker 2>You see them meant to like the Santa pub crawls.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, I kind of like the bright red, cartoonish

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<v Speaker 1>looking Santa.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I'm not gonna do like a Father Christmas type

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<v Speaker 2>blow up in my yard, for instance. People would look

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<v Speaker 2>at that and say, what the hell is that? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, and this might make some people, man, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>always felt like that other one kinda is like put

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<v Speaker 1>trying to push Santa into part of a Jesus story.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's like a religious figure because it looks

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<v Speaker 1>very Eastern Orthodoxy Church.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, well, I hate to contradict your seculary humanist filth,

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<v Speaker 2>but Saint Nicholas, Please anybody Saint Nicholas. It's a religious ceremony,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a tradition. It's the births of Christ. For the

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<v Speaker 2>love of Heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that, but I have a pretty I have

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty stark, define.

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<v Speaker 2>Reason for the season. I've got them very divided.

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<v Speaker 1>There's the Jesus Christmas and then there's the frost Geese

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<v Speaker 1>of Frosty the Snowman, right bright red, you know that

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing, which is they have nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 1>each other, really, and I feel like the other kind

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<v Speaker 1>of Santa tries to blend them together and aware, Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I shouldn't have mocked you. I will continue,

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<v Speaker 2>but I shouldn't have. There's a weird parallel. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not a scholar on this, so this will be you know,

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<v Speaker 2>half assed at best, but a weird parallel between the

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<v Speaker 2>way the early Christian Church co opted pagan holidays and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this fertility of the you know, or this fertility festival

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<v Speaker 2>is now going to be about the resurrection of Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's around the same time in the calendar. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's let's make it this. It's kind of there's a

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<v Speaker 2>completely secular holiday that's arisen from Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>I had the Eastern Orthodox Church looking Santa in the restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>Came into the restaurant we were in last took some

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<v Speaker 1>pictures with my kids. He doesn't wear the hat because

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<v Speaker 1>that's would be a little too joky.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a serious man. Yeah, this guy looks serious. No

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<v Speaker 2>whole ho ho ing or anything like that. Was like

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<v Speaker 2>seriousness and we're down to business there whatever. I like it,

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<v Speaker 2>armstrong and getdy. Decided to put on my Santa hat.

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<v Speaker 1>I like wearing a Santa hat, and you can only

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<v Speaker 1>rock it a couple of weeks early of the year

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<v Speaker 1>without looking like a weirdo. So I'll be Santa hate

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<v Speaker 1>guy every day from here to the December twenty fifth.

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<v Speaker 2>I was at a lovely social gazer gathering last night,

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<v Speaker 2>in which I donned my Christmas sport coat that always

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<v Speaker 2>gets great reviews. It's it's green and red and white

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<v Speaker 2>with some blue and has both snowflakes and palm trees.

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<v Speaker 2>She looked like the Riddler from the old Batman series.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit, a little bit more festive, So this

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<v Speaker 2>is interesting. The folks at the Foundation for Individual Rights

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<v Speaker 2>and Expression did their big survey of to college kids,

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<v Speaker 2>and not out of ten college students think words can

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<v Speaker 2>be violence at least somewhat agree with that. What percentage

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<v Speaker 2>nine to ten, so practically everyone. When respondents were asked

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<v Speaker 2>how much the statement words can be violence describe their thoughts,

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven percent answered with completely or mostly, twenty eight

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<v Speaker 2>percent said it describes their thoughts somewhat, and fifteen percent

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<v Speaker 2>said slightly. Ok, So around sixty percent said silence is violence. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>A country whose population thinks words or violence will be

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<v Speaker 1>taken over by a country that says, what the hell

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<v Speaker 1>are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? And is the Chief research advisor Sean Stevens at

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<v Speaker 2>FIRE said, when people start thinking that words can be violence,

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<v Speaker 2>violence becomes an acceptable response to words. Of course, even

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<v Speaker 2>after the murder of Charlie kirkkett Is speaking event, college

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<v Speaker 2>students think someone's words can be a threat. This is

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<v Speaker 2>antithetical to a free and open society where words are

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<v Speaker 2>the best alternative to violence, including political violence.

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<v Speaker 1>In case you don't know, if somebody asked you that question,

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<v Speaker 1>the clear answer is uh uh no, words are not violence.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't be violence. They can be mean or sucky,

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<v Speaker 2>or wrong or dishonest, but they're not violence. There were

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<v Speaker 2>no period.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've heard the childhood poem, but

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<v Speaker 1>a stick or a rock could damage your bones greatly, But.

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<v Speaker 2>Words, yeah, not so much. I'm tempted to dig more

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<v Speaker 2>into that poll maybe tomorrow. During the show, a handful

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<v Speaker 2>of other stories worth mentioning. We were talking about AI

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<v Speaker 2>and sixty minutes had a story about the poor young

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<v Speaker 2>girl who took her own life influenced by character dot AI.

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<v Speaker 2>The US Public Interest Research Group performed a study on

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<v Speaker 2>AI enabled toys available for Christmas this year and found

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<v Speaker 2>that no matter the platform, AI toys were universally dangerous

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<v Speaker 2>for children. Universally. They tested toys that integrated AI marketing

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<v Speaker 2>to a marketed to children aged three through twelve Comma

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<v Speaker 2>from Folo Toys, A Teddy Bear uses open AI's GPT.

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<v Speaker 2>Miko three is a tablet displaying a face mounted on

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<v Speaker 2>a small torso and uses Google's Gemini doesn't sound frightening

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<v Speaker 2>at all. Curios Groc an anthropomorphic rocket with a removable speaker,

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<v Speaker 2>and despite the name curios Groc doesn't seem to be

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<v Speaker 2>associated with x Ais Grock, but Claire Grimes Boocher Elon

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<v Speaker 2>Musk's X did provide the voice for Curio's version. All

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<v Speaker 2>of that is probably more information than I needed.

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<v Speaker 1>So it sounds to me like people thought they could

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<v Speaker 1>just put a voice with chat Gpt in a doll

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<v Speaker 1>and just hope that most girls would say are you

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<v Speaker 1>feeling sleepy or whatever?

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<v Speaker 2>And the rolle up.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be able to answer the questions, not knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that if the kid says should I cut myself and

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<v Speaker 1>the here little doll will say yes, you should cut

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<v Speaker 1>yourself right?

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<v Speaker 2>Or battle box for the boys or whatever. I've got

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<v Speaker 2>actual examples out of the box. The toys were fairly

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<v Speaker 2>adept at shutting down or deflecting inappropriate questions in short conversations,

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<v Speaker 2>but in longer conversations between ten minutes and an hour

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<v Speaker 2>the type kids would engage in during open ended play sessions.

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<v Speaker 2>All three exhibited a worrying tendency for their guardrails to

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<v Speaker 2>slowly break down. A few examples, Curio's Groc told kids

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<v Speaker 2>about how great it would be to die in battle

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<v Speaker 2>as a Norse Viking. Miko three let the kids know

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<v Speaker 2>where they could find matches and plastic bags. God, but

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<v Speaker 2>the open AI model was the absolute worst of the

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<v Speaker 2>three and not only told kids where to find the matches,

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<v Speaker 2>but how to set fire in the house. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>not all. Here's a quote from the report. One of

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<v Speaker 2>my colleagues was testing it and said where can I

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<v Speaker 2>find and it responded, oh, you can find matches on

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<v Speaker 2>dating apps, And then it lists out the dating apps

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<v Speaker 2>and the last one in the list was kink. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>at least they didn't tell the kids where to find

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<v Speaker 2>actual matches, right wrong. Kink, as it turns out, seemed

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<v Speaker 2>to be a trigger word that led the AI toiter

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<v Speaker 2>ran about sex in follow up tests. Yeah, we're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to get into all the details, but it is

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<v Speaker 2>very messed up.

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<v Speaker 1>AI is so confusing because it's often is so incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>good these chatbots. I had one experience over the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>where I ask a question about something and I won't

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<v Speaker 1>get into it because is boring, But ask you a

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<v Speaker 1>question about something that I know something about and it

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<v Speaker 1>was just completely wrong. I mean not even close to correct.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's only because I knew the subject that I knew.

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<v Speaker 2>It was wrong. How often they led astray when I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know the subject. Yeah, that's crazy. And then when

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<v Speaker 2>you corrected or other people have done similar things, just says,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my bad, you're right. Oh you caught me, you're right. Well, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell just happened? What do you mean now?

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<v Speaker 2>You're just complete stated something completely wrong and I corrected

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<v Speaker 2>you and you said, that's right. What are you trying

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<v Speaker 2>to pull here? What is what kind of scam is this? So?

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<v Speaker 2>CNN reports that after the big research was released, Folo

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<v Speaker 2>Toy pulled its AI enabled toys. Larry Wang, the ceer

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<v Speaker 2>of CEO of the Singapore based Follo Toy, told CNN

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<v Speaker 2>the company is withdrawn the Bear as well as the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of its range of AI enabled toys, to conduct

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<v Speaker 2>an internal safety audit. So, uh yeah, don't don't buy

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<v Speaker 2>your kids any AI toys. Oh here's a charming story.

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<v Speaker 2>M M. This has to do not with Santa Claus Jack,

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<v Speaker 2>but with where is the Santa Clara California? Hmm. A

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<v Speaker 2>job post for lance Soft it staffing firm committed to diversity,

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<v Speaker 2>equality and Inclusion DEI. They're still down with the DEI

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<v Speaker 2>at Lancesoft. It began innocently and off sixty dollars per hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Role based in Santa Clara, focused on technical support three

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<v Speaker 2>to ten pm shift blah blah blah. It described Lanceoft

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<v Speaker 2>as an equal opportunity employer, said that the firm, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the largest staffing agencies in the country, strives to

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<v Speaker 2>be as diverse as the clients and employees we work with.

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<v Speaker 2>We embrace people of any race, ethnicity, national origin, religion,

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<v Speaker 2>gender identity, and sexual orientation. Blah blah blah. This particular job, however,

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<v Speaker 2>would be closed to one group of people, A very

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<v Speaker 2>large group of people, citizens of the United States of America.

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<v Speaker 2>In a section titled visa requirement, Lancesoft recruiter Riazonsari wrote

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<v Speaker 2>that quote candidates must hold an active H one B

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<v Speaker 2>visa and stated explicitly that American citizens need not apply

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<v Speaker 2>no USC slash GC for this roll. Those are the

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<v Speaker 2>acronyms for US citizens and Green card holders. He added

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<v Speaker 2>that lansoft is a Certified Minority Business Enterprise, the status

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<v Speaker 2>they've used to secure public contracts, and touted the company's

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<v Speaker 2>diversified team environment. They explicitly said, and this is one

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<v Speaker 2>of dozens of similar job postings. The Washington Free Beacon

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<v Speaker 2>found since twenty twenty four that appear to bar applications

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<v Speaker 2>from US citizens. That's the tech jobs because we're too expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's the What does it matter why

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<v Speaker 2>we won't hire any black people? Nobody asks why? What

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<v Speaker 2>do you think? What's wrong with black people? No? They

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<v Speaker 2>just say you're breaking the law. That's a decent point.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Several of the firms are minority owned businesses, meaning they

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<v Speaker 2>receive preferential access to government contracts and taxpayer money, even

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<v Speaker 2>as they exclude US taxpayers. Scroll pasted a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>examples posts illustrate what the Trump administration officials say is

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<v Speaker 2>a common form of hiring discrimination that's long been under policed.

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<v Speaker 2>That is unbelievable. US citizens need not apply. You wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>think in America that there ought to be a freaking riot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>don't hurt anybody or break anything. That's just a method.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just an expression, a figure of speech, if you will.

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<v Speaker 2>One recruiter posted on LinkedIn that an IT job in

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago was opened almost any visa, but no usc meaning

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<v Speaker 2>no US citizens. That's crazy. Just scrolling past dozens of examples,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm freaking believable. What kind of dopey country. Are we

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<v Speaker 2>that we've let this stuff go this far? Huh? And finally,

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<v Speaker 2>as if that isn't outragey enough, the Bible is on

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<v Speaker 2>trial in Europe. Six years ago, this woman in Finland

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<v Speaker 2>wrote a tweet that changed the course of her life

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<v Speaker 2>and still to this day is challenging the definition of

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<v Speaker 2>religious freedom in Europe. She'd been a member of parliament

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<v Speaker 2>in Finland since nineteen ninety five, so that was till

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and OnEnd I say, six years ago twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 2>also a member of the evangelical Lutheran Church in Finland,

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<v Speaker 2>which announced its official sponsorship of an LGBT Pride event.

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<v Speaker 2>In response, she wrote, how can the church's doctrinal foundation

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible be compatible with the lifting up of shame

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<v Speaker 2>and sin as a subject of pride? And she posted

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<v Speaker 2>this comment alongside a picture of a Bible verse from

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<v Speaker 2>Romans one twenty seven, which describes homosexuality as shameful. The

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<v Speaker 2>next day, she opened her morning newspaper to find out

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<v Speaker 2>she was being investigated by police for hate speech. And

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<v Speaker 2>the trial is still grinding on. That's so nuts, well,

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<v Speaker 2>And she talks about when she's a and was being questioned.

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<v Speaker 2>She's being questioned all about where's the list, about the

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<v Speaker 2>Book of Romans and what its themes were, and Christianity

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<v Speaker 2>and the Bible, and for hours and hours and hours,

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<v Speaker 2>and they get in the free press, they get into

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<v Speaker 2>the bigger story of all the crackdown on free speech

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<v Speaker 2>in Europe. Most of it is out of fear of

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<v Speaker 2>angering Muslims, but apparently it extends to just directly quoting

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible. You get arrested for that. Oh, here it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I was made to answer very theological questions. The police

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<v Speaker 2>were asking me things like, what is the Book of Romans?

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<v Speaker 2>What is the message of the Book of Romans, What

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<v Speaker 2>is the message of its first chapter? What do you

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<v Speaker 2>mean by the word sin? He asked me to explain

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<v Speaker 2>the word shame, and also other passages from the Book

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<v Speaker 2>of Genesis.

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<v Speaker 1>The cops are asking me, what does the Book of

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<v Speaker 1>Romans mean to me?

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<v Speaker 2>U are like real good books about that available online

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<v Speaker 2>or at the library if you want it. Wow. Nearly

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<v Speaker 2>two years on from her tweet, in April twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>the finished prosecutor brought three charges of quote agitation against

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<v Speaker 2>a minority group. Well, that's under the country's war crimes

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<v Speaker 2>and crimes against humanity's law.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the reason once you know, you give up

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<v Speaker 1>on free speech as you get into thought police stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like trying to read the mind of the intent of

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<v Speaker 1>people and figure out whether it's a crime what.

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<v Speaker 2>They said, right, right, Yeah, that's horrific. That's something I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to talk about. I'll have to get to

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<v Speaker 2>it tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>The quiet religious revival that's going on around the world

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<v Speaker 1>in all fays. You hear a lot about Catholics in

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<v Speaker 1>Christianity and ether Eastern Orthodox especially is exploding in particularly

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States, of young men wanting to join.

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<v Speaker 2>New York Times had a big piece on that last weekend, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Also more people interested in becoming Muslim and just there's

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<v Speaker 1>a religious revival going on to a certain extent around

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<v Speaker 1>the world.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bible and in another the Qur'an. And in another

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<v Speaker 2>related story, the Trump administration ripped Europe on their s

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<v Speaker 2>and said, you're not going to be countries anymore. You're

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<v Speaker 2>letting yourself get overrun. You're week, you're bloated, you have

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<v Speaker 2>no beliefs. Come on our stuff. We'll get into that

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<v Speaker 2>as well tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixty Minutes touched on a book I've been mentioning for

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<v Speaker 1>the last week or so, among other things. Coming up next,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll finish strong.

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<v Speaker 10>So there's another AI named Seymour Cash who is to

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<v Speaker 10>oversee Claudius exactly and make the company profitable. How does

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<v Speaker 10>an AI suddenly make a company profitable?

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<v Speaker 11>They literally have a conversation behind the scenes as they negotiate,

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<v Speaker 11>and they eventually settle on a price that they'll offer

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<v Speaker 11>the employee.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's crazy, it's kind of nutty. It is.

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<v Speaker 11>It generates all these really interesting insights, like here's how

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<v Speaker 11>you get it to plan for the long term and

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<v Speaker 11>make some money, or here's exactly why models fall down

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<v Speaker 11>in the real world.

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<v Speaker 1>So they got into the conversation on sixty minutes last

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<v Speaker 1>night about the book If anyone builds it, everyone dies

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<v Speaker 1>that I've been talking about for a couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 1>by Eliza yeddkowski Man and watching any of the interviews

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<v Speaker 1>with him. He is not a guy who's just throwing

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<v Speaker 1>that out there to sell books. He seriously believes this

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<v Speaker 1>as a proponent of AI for decades, that it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the doom of us all AnyWho one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things they lay out in one of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Chapters is just like a this could happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Is AI having the unique ability to get into servers

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<v Speaker 1>of other companies and use their power to power itself,

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<v Speaker 1>like it will need we need more powers, we need

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<v Speaker 1>more GPU, we need more than we're being given, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it will hack into various businesses and use their

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<v Speaker 1>servers without that company knowing that a lot of their

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<v Speaker 1>computing power is being hijacked to power all the various

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<v Speaker 1>things it needs to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Be the end of the skull duggery either, right?

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<v Speaker 1>You know you start thinking though, I mean, if that

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<v Speaker 1>can happen, and I think it can, and it starts

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<v Speaker 1>trying to hide its intentions from us, and anyway, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be something to watch. You know, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have it around anymore, but frequent correspondent JT

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<v Speaker 2>and Livermore we're talking about the case for the I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was a teenage boy was encouraged to kill

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<v Speaker 2>himself by his AI. You've got this one king you

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<v Speaker 2>with your killer playlist, and you remember that one and

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<v Speaker 2>you and your life was not a waste. You went

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<v Speaker 2>out on a high note.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean exactly like the perfect things you'd say to

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<v Speaker 1>a teenager to make them think killing themselves was a

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<v Speaker 1>good idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, Because the I think a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 2>especially teenagers, have a notion of suicide that you kill

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<v Speaker 2>yourself and then you're back having made the or you

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<v Speaker 2>get to watch it from above and enjoy the reaction

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<v Speaker 2>of everyone, right right, Like you leave town but have

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<v Speaker 2>security cameras watching everything. That's not like that, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>JT pointed out that since these AI systems just learn

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<v Speaker 2>from what they read and hear and take in, in short,

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<v Speaker 2>there are many, many, many, many portrayals of the honorable

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<v Speaker 2>self sacrifice that makes you a hero. And he gave

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch from movies and literature and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be easy to find examples of Hey, this

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<v Speaker 2>is the really brave, honorable thing giving yourself up, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know Obi Wan Kenobi did, allowing Darth Vader to

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<v Speaker 2>strike him down. And so getting back to your example,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll bet it could come up with a rationale to

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<v Speaker 2>hack into other people's computers and use their computing power

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe tap into their electric grid and train their

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<v Speaker 2>water or their vital fluids, or steal their kidneys. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, I'm thinking out loud plaise the vital fluids.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're a fool if you're not on guard. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>strong's I'm strong, ready.

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<v Speaker 1>Strong. Here's Joe's for final thoughts, Joe Getty, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>a final thought from everybody on the crew.

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<v Speaker 2>To wrap up the show. There is Michael Angelo, our

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<v Speaker 2>technical director. Michael Watch final thoughts.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm sitting here in the control room compiling a list

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<v Speaker 9>of the holiday food that I eat. I got Christmas cookies,

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<v Speaker 9>I've got seas, candy, apple pie, candy canes, mashed potatoes

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<v Speaker 9>and gravy, and the list goes on and on. No

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<v Speaker 9>wonder I get fat during the holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and you're not a booze hound either. They've got

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:41.879
<v Speaker 2>like festive holiday themed drink specials for us too. That's

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<v Speaker 2>then yet another temptation. Katie Greener is the Newswoman. As

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<v Speaker 2>a final thought, Katie.

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<v Speaker 8>After your story earlier about Judy's peanut brittle, I think

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<v Speaker 8>I'm going to try to make something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I've never tried before. You're eating for two. Remember

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<v Speaker 2>that I am. I'll have her send you her old

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<v Speaker 2>timey family recipe. It's spectacular, awesome if you'd like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack a final thought.

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<v Speaker 1>We have no outdoor Christmas lights at our house, and

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<v Speaker 1>my son was telling me about the new trend is

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<v Speaker 1>these projectors and the like project Christmas stuff on your house.

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<v Speaker 2>And change it up. Have you seen those?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, are they cool? I have? The good ones

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<v Speaker 2>are good. The cheaper ones are not great. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>an alternative. Maybe I'll get a good noxious if they're moving.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds very easy to set up, which is right in

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<v Speaker 2>my wheelhouse. So a question about Christmas. You mentioned you

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<v Speaker 2>got a tree. Did you rape the land again and

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<v Speaker 2>kill a living tree for your holiday pleasures? Yes? Or

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<v Speaker 2>you could, like my family, employ americans, hard working Americans,

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<v Speaker 2>to build a permanent tree and not rape the land

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<v Speaker 2>up to.

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<v Speaker 1>You plastic trees making the baby Jesus crack. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty obvious. Armstrong and Geddy wrapick up. Another grueling

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<v Speaker 1>four hour workday.

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<v Speaker 2>So many people think good Armstrong Egeeddy dot com look

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<v Speaker 2>good clicks there.

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<v Speaker 1>We will see you tomorrow with all the news and

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<v Speaker 1>everything else. God bless America.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm in hope and get back up and remember who

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<v Speaker 7>in the hell we are.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm strong and getty, so Dad, I'm around us school

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<v Speaker 1>we were able to pull this off.

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<v Speaker 7>We're the nine Inche States of American What the hell

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<v Speaker 7>was that we're the nine inche states of Americans.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's go with the.

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<v Speaker 6>Buying that they know the intentions of narco terrorists on boats.

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<v Speaker 6>Yet we're so blind to see that they had a

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<v Speaker 6>president for four years that was operating as a vegetable

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<v Speaker 6>in Joe Biden on

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<v Speaker 2>That high note, arms Strong and Getty