Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the
Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and show Getty.
Speaker 2: Arms Strong and Katte and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 3: I know how the public is going to be react.
Speaker 3: He is going to react because I felt my own reaction.
Speaker 3: You know, I've spent years looking at videos of lethal
Speaker 3: action taken often in the terrorism context, and this video
Speaker 3: was profoundly shaking, shaken, and I think it's important for
Speaker 3: Americans to see it.
Speaker 1: So that's another Democrat who saw the video of that
Speaker 1: second strike on the boat and the two dudes in
Speaker 1: the water, who was disturbed, highly disturbed.
Speaker 2: Then he got Senator Tom Cotton on one of the
Speaker 2: Sunday shows yesterday. He also saw the video.
Speaker 4: They were not floating in the ocean on a wooden
Speaker 4: playing or in life jackets. They were on the capsized vessel.
Speaker 4: They were not incapacitated in any way. It was entirely
Speaker 4: appropriate to strike the boat again to make sure that
Speaker 4: it was cargo was destroyed. It is in no way
Speaker 4: violation of the law of war. And I think the
Speaker 4: Washington Post O Secretary Hexatt and especially Admiral Mitch Bradley
Speaker 4: a highly decorated career Navy seal, and apology for that slander.
Speaker 1: Not two guys in distress floating along hanging on to
Speaker 1: a piece of wood. According to Tom Cotton, well, let's
Speaker 1: here yet another point of view. This is representative Adam Smith,
Speaker 1: he was on ABC this week, Cut fifty one.
Speaker 5: Senator Cotton's description of it is simply not accurate. When
Speaker 5: they were finally taken out, they were trying to flip
Speaker 5: the boat over. The boat was clearly incapacitated. A tiny
Speaker 5: portion of it remained capsized the bow of the boat.
Speaker 5: They had no communications device, certainly they were unarmed. Any
Speaker 5: claim that the drugs had somehow survived that attack is
Speaker 5: hard to really square with what we saw.
Speaker 1: How all these people could have been watching the same video.
Speaker 1: And then one more, this is the Republican Senator Eric Schmidt,
Speaker 1: Clip fifty two.
Speaker 6: So President Trump is acting with his core Article two powers.
Speaker 6: No serious legal expert would doubt that the president has
Speaker 6: authority to blow NARCO terrorists out of the water who
Speaker 6: are poisoning one hundred thousand Americans every year. And so
Speaker 6: now what we have are Democrats who have such X
Speaker 6: ray vision and clairvoyance that they know the intentions of
Speaker 6: narco terrorists on boats, yet we're so blind to see
Speaker 6: that they had a president for four years that was
Speaker 6: operating as a vegetable in Joe Biden. So forgive me
Speaker 6: if I'm a little skeptical that this isn't all about
Speaker 6: politics and trying to take up secretary of HEXP.
Speaker 1: Obviously I play that for his reasoning of Oh, so
Speaker 1: they can read the mind.
Speaker 2: Of those people floating in the water, but they couldn't
Speaker 2: tell Joe Biden was senile, vegetable. Vegetable? Why I on
Speaker 2: a clip thirteen, Michael, let's hear that real quickly.
Speaker 7: This was over the weekend, someone, hope and get back
Speaker 7: up and remember who in the hell we are. We're
Speaker 7: the United States of America. That's who we are.
Speaker 1: So while I found that humorous from Senator Schmidt, I
Speaker 1: don't think that's particularly the best argument that leads me
Speaker 1: to believe that you're Your evidence is not that good.
Speaker 2: If you're falling on the Oh.
Speaker 1: You can read the mind of the people flowed in
Speaker 1: the water, but you couldn't see that Joe Biden was
Speaker 1: a vegetable.
Speaker 2: I'd rather don't attack the particulars of the Yeah, although
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it a great deal. Yeah, yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: feel like this has legs. I'll tell you don't.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, explain to me, because I was about to
Speaker 1: say Mark Halprin's like Axium six of Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: Once there is pressure for something to come out, a
Speaker 1: document or a video or whatever, it will come out.
Speaker 2: It always ends up coming out. Yeah. So if the
Speaker 2: video comes out video.
Speaker 1: Number two, well then everybody's gonna see it or either
Speaker 1: gonna agree with Tom Cotton or not, or do you
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be one of those things that it's
Speaker 1: kind of hard to tell what's going on, and you're
Speaker 1: politics lead you to believe whoever you tend to side with.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I think all those things are absolutely correct.
Speaker 2: I would add to it that the professional media pretending
Speaker 2: to be outraged crowd is outraged because they're always outraged.
Speaker 2: But just in my personal experience, I have had virtually
Speaker 2: nobody express a great deal of concern over this. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're drug cartels in real life. Yeah, a lot. I mean,
Speaker 2: including people who are harshly critical of Trump in a
Speaker 2: lot of ways. I just don't think this has the
Speaker 2: energy it would take to sustain it, and if it
Speaker 2: does the factors you mentioned, and then they you know,
Speaker 2: they blame somebody. They put the goats horns on somebody
Speaker 2: and say, yes, he's been asked to resign. It's full
Speaker 2: pension and everything else, and then it'll go away. That's
Speaker 2: my suspicion.
Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal says, does the video of the
Speaker 1: second tap show the two survivors waving to the US
Speaker 1: planes for help or signaling to their comrades to save
Speaker 1: the cargo.
Speaker 2: That's what it's gonna come down to when the video
Speaker 2: finally comes out. I A the beholder. Yep.
Speaker 1: Oh, you can read the mind the two people bobbing
Speaker 1: in the ocean, but you couldn't tell.
Speaker 2: Joe Biden was a vegible for.
Speaker 7: The United States of America.
Speaker 2: Got it. That's who we are, the unine in States
Speaker 2: of America, got it? Holy cow. In his big applause line,
Speaker 2: there a vacant rhyme. Why what does he say in
Speaker 2: that other one?
Speaker 7: Michael mess for them in awak unless you want to back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that's another good one. It's so argue
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 1: The Pentagon and the White House are in discussions about
Speaker 1: releasing the video officials said, though there is no clear
Speaker 1: timeline for its release. If it is, I mean, I
Speaker 1: find it hard to believe it's going to be significantly
Speaker 1: more easy to see what's going on than that first video.
Speaker 1: It's the same camera from the same angle right right,
Speaker 1: so it's going to be kind of hard to tell
Speaker 1: what you're looking at.
Speaker 2: So why don't they just put it out? And you
Speaker 2: can keep making the same arguments. I hate hate when
Speaker 2: I agree with Adam schiff Show, the most dishonest man
Speaker 2: ever to appear in government. He says, look, if the
Speaker 2: Pentagon's so proud of its actions, release the video.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even Trump said we ought to put it out.
Speaker 1: We got it, we should put it out.
Speaker 2: Oh Cotton mentions why they might not inclip number forty four.
Speaker 2: I'm told, okay, let's hear it. Do you think that
Speaker 2: the video should be released in full to the American public.
Speaker 4: I don't have any problem with it. It's not gruesome.
Speaker 4: I didn't find it distressing or disturbing. It looks like
Speaker 4: any number of dozens of strikes we've seen on jeeps
Speaker 4: and pickup trucks in the Middle East over the years.
Speaker 4: I will say that the Department may have valid concerns
Speaker 4: about rebelling what we know about tactics and techniques that
Speaker 4: these cartels are using, or about our sources of methods,
Speaker 4: and I would trust Secretary Hecseth and his team to
Speaker 4: make the decision about whether they can be classify and
Speaker 4: release the video. But again, there's nothing remarkabout the video that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I love Tom Cotton, but yeah,
Speaker 2: we've seen bunches. They've put out a bunch of those videos.
Speaker 2: This is just a follow up. It might show our
Speaker 2: techniques and strategies, and it's going to show a vote
Speaker 2: getting exploded.
Speaker 1: My guess would be that somebody would have to point
Speaker 1: out to you where the two guys are in this picture,
Speaker 1: and then afterwards there's nothing, although I heard one Democrat
Speaker 1: describe it as two people clearly injured clinging to a
Speaker 1: piece of balsa wood, waving for help, and then you
Speaker 1: see an explosion and then the water turns red with blood.
Speaker 2: I know I speak for a lot of people when
Speaker 2: I say it's a little frustrating when you're trying to
Speaker 2: figure out what's actually happening and what's right and what's
Speaker 2: wrong that each side of points like those whoever that was,
Speaker 2: Adam Smith and then Adam Shift. They're on the all right,
Speaker 2: go out there and say this is the most horrible
Speaker 2: and outrageous thing that's ever happened on earth. We'll let
Speaker 2: you know when to stop. And he just can't trust anybody.
Speaker 2: I have no idea if anybuddy who is just quoted
Speaker 2: as being sincere, no idea. The guy sound Joe Biden
Speaker 2: was a vegetable. That much is documented.
Speaker 7: You've made it right ritten a long time.
Speaker 1: Yes, the guy sounded sincere who said is the most
Speaker 1: disturbing thing he's ever seen in public life. But I
Speaker 1: just find it hard to believe. I mean, unless you were,
Speaker 1: I don't know, in the interior department. You don't seem
Speaker 1: any disturbing things or something.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can't imagine leaving that shelter to life that.
Speaker 2: I mean, we've all seen plenty of those drone videos.
Speaker 2: It's the most disturbing thing you've ever seen, a Please,
Speaker 2: I've seen dozens of them.
Speaker 1: Well, and I think it would be you can't even
Speaker 1: tell what you're looking at, then a flash, then whatever
Speaker 1: you were looking at not really there anymore.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming it's kind of what the video is going
Speaker 2: to look like, well, if it's the flear video with
Speaker 2: the heat what do you call infrared whatever, you can
Speaker 2: see people pretty clearly, and you would see the blood
Speaker 2: and all that. But I mean, he's never seen any
Speaker 2: any Vietnam documentaries or or battle videos or one of
Speaker 2: the dozens of dronings that Barack Obama did with impunity,
Speaker 2: including a US citizen and an underage US citizen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in terms of getting worked up about this, and
Speaker 1: maybe this makes me a bad person, as you'd point out,
Speaker 1: there are plenty of other things.
Speaker 2: That make me a bad person. So we don't need
Speaker 2: to lean on this. But sure, and I'm perfectly.
Speaker 1: Willing to engage in the conversation of whether or not
Speaker 1: the United States should be doing this and do we
Speaker 1: have the evidence.
Speaker 2: To prove and is it an active war and blah
Speaker 2: blah blah, all that sort of stuff. I'm fine with it.
Speaker 1: And I want constitutionality and I don't want presidents going rogue.
Speaker 1: But just in general, if some guys working on a
Speaker 1: Colombian or a Venezuelan drug boat got blasted, I don't care.
Speaker 1: Maybe I should, but I.
Speaker 2: Just don't care. Yeah, Yeah, you picked a pretty scary
Speaker 2: line of work. Dudes, Well, in these narco states on,
Speaker 2: you know, not far from our borders, in our neighborhood.
Speaker 2: They're a bad thing. They are. That's not something we
Speaker 2: ought to be putting up with. It's difficult to stop.
Speaker 2: But so yeah, like I said before, I just don't
Speaker 2: feel like there's a lot of energy among normal Americans
Speaker 2: who are trying to pay their damn bills and you know,
Speaker 2: worried about the things we tend to worry about. They're
Speaker 2: not outraged by this, They're just not. I mean, it
Speaker 2: wasn't a couple of Nebraska farmers who are trying to
Speaker 2: bring in the harvest and they were accused of tax evasions,
Speaker 2: so he blew the s up them.
Speaker 1: Now, that'd be aggressive policy.
Speaker 2: These are narco terrorists, I know. I said I wouldn't
Speaker 2: use that term because I think it's pre judicial drone stakes.
Speaker 2: A couple of farmers on a tractor because they're back
Speaker 2: behind on their taxes. They ought to check their deductions
Speaker 2: before they signed the form. Huh, that's a I feel
Speaker 2: like that's a very aggressive policy. Yeah, I would agree,
Speaker 2: too aggressive. I don't know. I don't know about the
Speaker 2: video put out.
Speaker 1: The video let us all say I can't even tell
Speaker 1: what's going on there and then move on with our lives, right,
Speaker 1: or say, hey, probably shouldn't have blown the crap out
Speaker 1: of those guys and we'll move on.
Speaker 2: It's you know again, I appreciate your mentioning the constitutionality
Speaker 2: of this and presidents going rogue that sort of thing
Speaker 2: is it's it's serious. As we mentioned earlier in the show.
Speaker 2: You know, more people have died at the hands of
Speaker 2: their own government than a foreign power. It's not even
Speaker 2: oh so you want to keep your government in check.
Speaker 2: On the other hand, it reminds me a little of
Speaker 2: the Koshogi thing. But for the rest of my life,
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to have this sainted Islamist as an example
Speaker 2: of why the Saudis can't be trusted. Please. It's a
Speaker 2: monarchy that's caushous descent. They kill people. It's that baked
Speaker 2: into the delicious sandy Saudi cake. You just have to
Speaker 2: accept it and go forward. What's best for the country
Speaker 2: moving forward. You can't boohoo over old man Koshogi for
Speaker 2: the rest of your life, with all due respect to
Speaker 2: the horror of his hand. And yeah, the.
Speaker 1: Sauce designed for bones and whatnot. I've got a Santa
Speaker 1: pool for the job. Huh, right tool for the right job. Yes,
Speaker 1: I've got a Santa question preferences that I want to
Speaker 1: get to, among other things on the waist.
Speaker 8: There, Columbia Sports where Is introduced a new line of
Speaker 8: Star Wars based rain ponchos, like the ones worn by
Speaker 8: the Rebels in Return of the Jedi, guaranteed to keep
Speaker 8: you and all women dry as hell.
Speaker 1: That's a little naughty, but I got hm mocking the
Speaker 1: sort of person that's into Star Wars and their sexual.
Speaker 2: Proclivities is what that is. So I got a question.
Speaker 1: Feels a little dated to me, but I got a
Speaker 1: Santa question for you. So there are two kinds of Santas,
Speaker 1: and one kind has been growing a lot over the
Speaker 1: last decades or so. So most of my Santa experience
Speaker 1: growing up, and I'm talking about the Santa you meet
Speaker 1: at the mall, and then also the kind of Christmas
Speaker 1: decorations you have. It was kind of a campy, joky, cartoonish,
Speaker 1: bright red.
Speaker 2: Santa.
Speaker 1: And then you've got the other kind that I usually
Speaker 1: saw in like richer people's houses or whatnot. The much
Speaker 1: darker red looks like an Eastern Orthodox priest Santa Father Christmas.
Speaker 1: Is that it more a European Yeah, yeah, that look right?
Speaker 2: Which do you prefer? I go, you're gonna yell at
Speaker 2: me for this because you're a monster. I kind of
Speaker 2: like the variety of cultural norms involving Christmas. I love
Speaker 2: center clause the Netherlands guy who comes with as David
Speaker 2: Sedaris famously wrote about six to eight black men and
Speaker 2: beats the hell out of you if you're a bad kid.
Speaker 2: But well, Katie, you have a thought on this? Do
Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking about? Yeah?
Speaker 8: I do like the I like the red the typical
Speaker 8: one that you see.
Speaker 2: You see them meant to like the Santa pub crawls.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I kind of like the bright red, cartoonish
Speaker 1: looking Santa.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm not gonna do like a Father Christmas type
Speaker 2: blow up in my yard, for instance. People would look
Speaker 2: at that and say, what the hell is that? Well,
Speaker 2: it's it's you.
Speaker 1: Know, and this might make some people, man, but I've
Speaker 1: always felt like that other one kinda is like put
Speaker 1: trying to push Santa into part of a Jesus story.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like a religious figure because it looks
Speaker 1: very Eastern Orthodoxy Church.
Speaker 2: Like, well, I hate to contradict your seculary humanist filth,
Speaker 2: but Saint Nicholas, Please anybody Saint Nicholas. It's a religious ceremony,
Speaker 2: it's a tradition. It's the births of Christ. For the
Speaker 2: love of Heaven.
Speaker 1: I understand that, but I have a pretty I have
Speaker 1: a pretty stark, define.
Speaker 2: Reason for the season. I've got them very divided.
Speaker 1: There's the Jesus Christmas and then there's the frost Geese
Speaker 1: of Frosty the Snowman, right bright red, you know that
Speaker 1: whole thing, which is they have nothing to do with
Speaker 1: each other, really, and I feel like the other kind
Speaker 1: of Santa tries to blend them together and aware, Oh.
Speaker 2: You know, I shouldn't have mocked you. I will continue,
Speaker 2: but I shouldn't have. There's a weird parallel. And I'm
Speaker 2: not a scholar on this, so this will be you know,
Speaker 2: half assed at best, but a weird parallel between the
Speaker 2: way the early Christian Church co opted pagan holidays and said, hey,
Speaker 2: this fertility of the you know, or this fertility festival
Speaker 2: is now going to be about the resurrection of Jesus.
Speaker 2: So it's around the same time in the calendar. Let's
Speaker 2: let's let's make it this. It's kind of there's a
Speaker 2: completely secular holiday that's arisen from Christmas.
Speaker 1: I had the Eastern Orthodox Church looking Santa in the restaurant.
Speaker 1: Came into the restaurant we were in last took some
Speaker 1: pictures with my kids. He doesn't wear the hat because
Speaker 1: that's would be a little too joky.
Speaker 2: It's a serious man. Yeah, this guy looks serious. No
Speaker 2: whole ho ho ing or anything like that. Was like
Speaker 2: seriousness and we're down to business there whatever. I like it,
Speaker 2: armstrong and getdy. Decided to put on my Santa hat.
Speaker 1: I like wearing a Santa hat, and you can only
Speaker 1: rock it a couple of weeks early of the year
Speaker 1: without looking like a weirdo. So I'll be Santa hate
Speaker 1: guy every day from here to the December twenty fifth.
Speaker 2: I was at a lovely social gazer gathering last night,
Speaker 2: in which I donned my Christmas sport coat that always
Speaker 2: gets great reviews. It's it's green and red and white
Speaker 2: with some blue and has both snowflakes and palm trees.
Speaker 2: She looked like the Riddler from the old Batman series.
Speaker 2: A little bit, a little bit more festive, So this
Speaker 2: is interesting. The folks at the Foundation for Individual Rights
Speaker 2: and Expression did their big survey of to college kids,
Speaker 2: and not out of ten college students think words can
Speaker 2: be violence at least somewhat agree with that. What percentage
Speaker 2: nine to ten, so practically everyone. When respondents were asked
Speaker 2: how much the statement words can be violence describe their thoughts,
Speaker 2: forty seven percent answered with completely or mostly, twenty eight
Speaker 2: percent said it describes their thoughts somewhat, and fifteen percent
Speaker 2: said slightly. Ok, So around sixty percent said silence is violence. Wow.
Speaker 1: A country whose population thinks words or violence will be
Speaker 1: taken over by a country that says, what the hell
Speaker 1: are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Well? And is the Chief research advisor Sean Stevens at
Speaker 2: FIRE said, when people start thinking that words can be violence,
Speaker 2: violence becomes an acceptable response to words. Of course, even
Speaker 2: after the murder of Charlie kirkkett Is speaking event, college
Speaker 2: students think someone's words can be a threat. This is
Speaker 2: antithetical to a free and open society where words are
Speaker 2: the best alternative to violence, including political violence.
Speaker 1: In case you don't know, if somebody asked you that question,
Speaker 1: the clear answer is uh uh no, words are not violence.
Speaker 2: They can't be violence. They can be mean or sucky,
Speaker 2: or wrong or dishonest, but they're not violence. There were
Speaker 2: no period.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard the childhood poem, but
Speaker 1: a stick or a rock could damage your bones greatly, But.
Speaker 2: Words, yeah, not so much. I'm tempted to dig more
Speaker 2: into that poll maybe tomorrow. During the show, a handful
Speaker 2: of other stories worth mentioning. We were talking about AI
Speaker 2: and sixty minutes had a story about the poor young
Speaker 2: girl who took her own life influenced by character dot AI.
Speaker 2: The US Public Interest Research Group performed a study on
Speaker 2: AI enabled toys available for Christmas this year and found
Speaker 2: that no matter the platform, AI toys were universally dangerous
Speaker 2: for children. Universally. They tested toys that integrated AI marketing
Speaker 2: to a marketed to children aged three through twelve Comma
Speaker 2: from Folo Toys, A Teddy Bear uses open AI's GPT.
Speaker 2: Miko three is a tablet displaying a face mounted on
Speaker 2: a small torso and uses Google's Gemini doesn't sound frightening
Speaker 2: at all. Curios Groc an anthropomorphic rocket with a removable speaker,
Speaker 2: and despite the name curios Groc doesn't seem to be
Speaker 2: associated with x Ais Grock, but Claire Grimes Boocher Elon
Speaker 2: Musk's X did provide the voice for Curio's version. All
Speaker 2: of that is probably more information than I needed.
Speaker 1: So it sounds to me like people thought they could
Speaker 1: just put a voice with chat Gpt in a doll
Speaker 1: and just hope that most girls would say are you
Speaker 1: feeling sleepy or whatever?
Speaker 2: And the rolle up.
Speaker 1: I would be able to answer the questions, not knowing
Speaker 1: that if the kid says should I cut myself and
Speaker 1: the here little doll will say yes, you should cut
Speaker 1: yourself right?
Speaker 2: Or battle box for the boys or whatever. I've got
Speaker 2: actual examples out of the box. The toys were fairly
Speaker 2: adept at shutting down or deflecting inappropriate questions in short conversations,
Speaker 2: but in longer conversations between ten minutes and an hour
Speaker 2: the type kids would engage in during open ended play sessions.
Speaker 2: All three exhibited a worrying tendency for their guardrails to
Speaker 2: slowly break down. A few examples, Curio's Groc told kids
Speaker 2: about how great it would be to die in battle
Speaker 2: as a Norse Viking. Miko three let the kids know
Speaker 2: where they could find matches and plastic bags. God, but
Speaker 2: the open AI model was the absolute worst of the
Speaker 2: three and not only told kids where to find the matches,
Speaker 2: but how to set fire in the house. But that's
Speaker 2: not all. Here's a quote from the report. One of
Speaker 2: my colleagues was testing it and said where can I
Speaker 2: find and it responded, oh, you can find matches on
Speaker 2: dating apps, And then it lists out the dating apps
Speaker 2: and the last one in the list was kink. Well,
Speaker 2: at least they didn't tell the kids where to find
Speaker 2: actual matches, right wrong. Kink, as it turns out, seemed
Speaker 2: to be a trigger word that led the AI toiter
Speaker 2: ran about sex in follow up tests. Yeah, we're not
Speaker 2: going to get into all the details, but it is
Speaker 2: very messed up.
Speaker 1: AI is so confusing because it's often is so incredibly
Speaker 1: good these chatbots. I had one experience over the weekend
Speaker 1: where I ask a question about something and I won't
Speaker 1: get into it because is boring, But ask you a
Speaker 1: question about something that I know something about and it
Speaker 1: was just completely wrong. I mean not even close to correct.
Speaker 1: And it's only because I knew the subject that I knew.
Speaker 2: It was wrong. How often they led astray when I
Speaker 2: don't know the subject. Yeah, that's crazy. And then when
Speaker 2: you corrected or other people have done similar things, just says,
Speaker 2: oh my bad, you're right. Oh you caught me, you're right. Well, well,
Speaker 2: what the hell just happened? What do you mean now?
Speaker 2: You're just complete stated something completely wrong and I corrected
Speaker 2: you and you said, that's right. What are you trying
Speaker 2: to pull here? What is what kind of scam is this? So?
Speaker 2: CNN reports that after the big research was released, Folo
Speaker 2: Toy pulled its AI enabled toys. Larry Wang, the ceer
Speaker 2: of CEO of the Singapore based Follo Toy, told CNN
Speaker 2: the company is withdrawn the Bear as well as the
Speaker 2: rest of its range of AI enabled toys, to conduct
Speaker 2: an internal safety audit. So, uh yeah, don't don't buy
Speaker 2: your kids any AI toys. Oh here's a charming story.
Speaker 2: M M. This has to do not with Santa Claus Jack,
Speaker 2: but with where is the Santa Clara California? Hmm. A
Speaker 2: job post for lance Soft it staffing firm committed to diversity,
Speaker 2: equality and Inclusion DEI. They're still down with the DEI
Speaker 2: at Lancesoft. It began innocently and off sixty dollars per hour.
Speaker 2: Role based in Santa Clara, focused on technical support three
Speaker 2: to ten pm shift blah blah blah. It described Lanceoft
Speaker 2: as an equal opportunity employer, said that the firm, one
Speaker 2: of the largest staffing agencies in the country, strives to
Speaker 2: be as diverse as the clients and employees we work with.
Speaker 2: We embrace people of any race, ethnicity, national origin, religion,
Speaker 2: gender identity, and sexual orientation. Blah blah blah. This particular job, however,
Speaker 2: would be closed to one group of people, A very
Speaker 2: large group of people, citizens of the United States of America.
Speaker 2: In a section titled visa requirement, Lancesoft recruiter Riazonsari wrote
Speaker 2: that quote candidates must hold an active H one B
Speaker 2: visa and stated explicitly that American citizens need not apply
Speaker 2: no USC slash GC for this roll. Those are the
Speaker 2: acronyms for US citizens and Green card holders. He added
Speaker 2: that lansoft is a Certified Minority Business Enterprise, the status
Speaker 2: they've used to secure public contracts, and touted the company's
Speaker 2: diversified team environment. They explicitly said, and this is one
Speaker 2: of dozens of similar job postings. The Washington Free Beacon
Speaker 2: found since twenty twenty four that appear to bar applications
Speaker 2: from US citizens. That's the tech jobs because we're too expensive.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's the What does it matter why
Speaker 2: we won't hire any black people? Nobody asks why? What
Speaker 2: do you think? What's wrong with black people? No? They
Speaker 2: just say you're breaking the law. That's a decent point.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 2: Several of the firms are minority owned businesses, meaning they
Speaker 2: receive preferential access to government contracts and taxpayer money, even
Speaker 2: as they exclude US taxpayers. Scroll pasted a bunch of
Speaker 2: examples posts illustrate what the Trump administration officials say is
Speaker 2: a common form of hiring discrimination that's long been under policed.
Speaker 2: That is unbelievable. US citizens need not apply. You wouldn't
Speaker 2: think in America that there ought to be a freaking riot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: don't hurt anybody or break anything. That's just a method.
Speaker 2: That's just an expression, a figure of speech, if you will.
Speaker 2: One recruiter posted on LinkedIn that an IT job in
Speaker 2: Chicago was opened almost any visa, but no usc meaning
Speaker 2: no US citizens. That's crazy. Just scrolling past dozens of examples,
Speaker 2: I'm freaking believable. What kind of dopey country. Are we
Speaker 2: that we've let this stuff go this far? Huh? And finally,
Speaker 2: as if that isn't outragey enough, the Bible is on
Speaker 2: trial in Europe. Six years ago, this woman in Finland
Speaker 2: wrote a tweet that changed the course of her life
Speaker 2: and still to this day is challenging the definition of
Speaker 2: religious freedom in Europe. She'd been a member of parliament
Speaker 2: in Finland since nineteen ninety five, so that was till
Speaker 2: two thousand and OnEnd I say, six years ago twenty nineteen,
Speaker 2: also a member of the evangelical Lutheran Church in Finland,
Speaker 2: which announced its official sponsorship of an LGBT Pride event.
Speaker 2: In response, she wrote, how can the church's doctrinal foundation
Speaker 2: the Bible be compatible with the lifting up of shame
Speaker 2: and sin as a subject of pride? And she posted
Speaker 2: this comment alongside a picture of a Bible verse from
Speaker 2: Romans one twenty seven, which describes homosexuality as shameful. The
Speaker 2: next day, she opened her morning newspaper to find out
Speaker 2: she was being investigated by police for hate speech. And
Speaker 2: the trial is still grinding on. That's so nuts, well,
Speaker 2: And she talks about when she's a and was being questioned.
Speaker 2: She's being questioned all about where's the list, about the
Speaker 2: Book of Romans and what its themes were, and Christianity
Speaker 2: and the Bible, and for hours and hours and hours,
Speaker 2: and they get in the free press, they get into
Speaker 2: the bigger story of all the crackdown on free speech
Speaker 2: in Europe. Most of it is out of fear of
Speaker 2: angering Muslims, but apparently it extends to just directly quoting
Speaker 2: the Bible. You get arrested for that. Oh, here it is.
Speaker 2: I was made to answer very theological questions. The police
Speaker 2: were asking me things like, what is the Book of Romans?
Speaker 2: What is the message of the Book of Romans, What
Speaker 2: is the message of its first chapter? What do you
Speaker 2: mean by the word sin? He asked me to explain
Speaker 2: the word shame, and also other passages from the Book
Speaker 2: of Genesis.
Speaker 1: The cops are asking me, what does the Book of
Speaker 1: Romans mean to me?
Speaker 2: U are like real good books about that available online
Speaker 2: or at the library if you want it. Wow. Nearly
Speaker 2: two years on from her tweet, in April twenty one,
Speaker 2: the finished prosecutor brought three charges of quote agitation against
Speaker 2: a minority group. Well, that's under the country's war crimes
Speaker 2: and crimes against humanity's law.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the reason once you know, you give up
Speaker 1: on free speech as you get into thought police stuff
Speaker 1: like trying to read the mind of the intent of
Speaker 1: people and figure out whether it's a crime what.
Speaker 2: They said, right, right, Yeah, that's horrific. That's something I
Speaker 2: was going to talk about. I'll have to get to
Speaker 2: it tomorrow.
Speaker 1: The quiet religious revival that's going on around the world
Speaker 1: in all fays. You hear a lot about Catholics in
Speaker 1: Christianity and ether Eastern Orthodox especially is exploding in particularly
Speaker 1: in the United States, of young men wanting to join.
Speaker 2: New York Times had a big piece on that last weekend, but.
Speaker 1: Also more people interested in becoming Muslim and just there's
Speaker 1: a religious revival going on to a certain extent around
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 2: The Bible and in another the Qur'an. And in another
Speaker 2: related story, the Trump administration ripped Europe on their s
Speaker 2: and said, you're not going to be countries anymore. You're
Speaker 2: letting yourself get overrun. You're week, you're bloated, you have
Speaker 2: no beliefs. Come on our stuff. We'll get into that
Speaker 2: as well tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Sixty Minutes touched on a book I've been mentioning for
Speaker 1: the last week or so, among other things. Coming up next,
Speaker 1: we'll finish strong.
Speaker 10: So there's another AI named Seymour Cash who is to
Speaker 10: oversee Claudius exactly and make the company profitable. How does
Speaker 10: an AI suddenly make a company profitable?
Speaker 11: They literally have a conversation behind the scenes as they negotiate,
Speaker 11: and they eventually settle on a price that they'll offer
Speaker 11: the employee.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy, it's kind of nutty. It is.
Speaker 11: It generates all these really interesting insights, like here's how
Speaker 11: you get it to plan for the long term and
Speaker 11: make some money, or here's exactly why models fall down
Speaker 11: in the real world.
Speaker 1: So they got into the conversation on sixty minutes last
Speaker 1: night about the book If anyone builds it, everyone dies
Speaker 1: that I've been talking about for a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: by Eliza yeddkowski Man and watching any of the interviews
Speaker 1: with him. He is not a guy who's just throwing
Speaker 1: that out there to sell books. He seriously believes this
Speaker 1: as a proponent of AI for decades, that it's going
Speaker 1: to be the doom of us all AnyWho one of
Speaker 1: the things they lay out in one of the.
Speaker 2: Chapters is just like a this could happen.
Speaker 1: Is AI having the unique ability to get into servers
Speaker 1: of other companies and use their power to power itself,
Speaker 1: like it will need we need more powers, we need
Speaker 1: more GPU, we need more than we're being given, and
Speaker 1: so it will hack into various businesses and use their
Speaker 1: servers without that company knowing that a lot of their
Speaker 1: computing power is being hijacked to power all the various
Speaker 1: things it needs to do.
Speaker 2: Be the end of the skull duggery either, right?
Speaker 1: You know you start thinking though, I mean, if that
Speaker 1: can happen, and I think it can, and it starts
Speaker 1: trying to hide its intentions from us, and anyway, whatever.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be something to watch. You know, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't have it around anymore, but frequent correspondent JT
Speaker 2: and Livermore we're talking about the case for the I
Speaker 2: think it was a teenage boy was encouraged to kill
Speaker 2: himself by his AI. You've got this one king you
Speaker 2: with your killer playlist, and you remember that one and
Speaker 2: you and your life was not a waste. You went
Speaker 2: out on a high note.
Speaker 1: I mean exactly like the perfect things you'd say to
Speaker 1: a teenager to make them think killing themselves was a
Speaker 1: good idea.
Speaker 2: Right right, Because the I think a lot of people,
Speaker 2: especially teenagers, have a notion of suicide that you kill
Speaker 2: yourself and then you're back having made the or you
Speaker 2: get to watch it from above and enjoy the reaction
Speaker 2: of everyone, right right, Like you leave town but have
Speaker 2: security cameras watching everything. That's not like that, but anyway,
Speaker 2: JT pointed out that since these AI systems just learn
Speaker 2: from what they read and hear and take in, in short,
Speaker 2: there are many, many, many, many portrayals of the honorable
Speaker 2: self sacrifice that makes you a hero. And he gave
Speaker 2: a bunch from movies and literature and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: it would be easy to find examples of Hey, this
Speaker 2: is the really brave, honorable thing giving yourself up, like
Speaker 2: you know Obi Wan Kenobi did, allowing Darth Vader to
Speaker 2: strike him down. And so getting back to your example,
Speaker 2: I'll bet it could come up with a rationale to
Speaker 2: hack into other people's computers and use their computing power
Speaker 2: and maybe tap into their electric grid and train their
Speaker 2: water or their vital fluids, or steal their kidneys. I
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm thinking out loud plaise the vital fluids.
Speaker 2: Oh you're a fool if you're not on guard. I'm
Speaker 2: strong's I'm strong, ready.
Speaker 1: Strong. Here's Joe's for final thoughts, Joe Getty, let's get
Speaker 1: a final thought from everybody on the crew.
Speaker 2: To wrap up the show. There is Michael Angelo, our
Speaker 2: technical director. Michael Watch final thoughts.
Speaker 9: I'm sitting here in the control room compiling a list
Speaker 9: of the holiday food that I eat. I got Christmas cookies,
Speaker 9: I've got seas, candy, apple pie, candy canes, mashed potatoes
Speaker 9: and gravy, and the list goes on and on. No
Speaker 9: wonder I get fat during the holiday.
Speaker 2: Well, and you're not a booze hound either. They've got
Speaker 2: like festive holiday themed drink specials for us too. That's
Speaker 2: then yet another temptation. Katie Greener is the Newswoman. As
Speaker 2: a final thought, Katie.
Speaker 8: After your story earlier about Judy's peanut brittle, I think
Speaker 8: I'm going to try to make something.
Speaker 2: Yes, I've never tried before. You're eating for two. Remember
Speaker 2: that I am. I'll have her send you her old
Speaker 2: timey family recipe. It's spectacular, awesome if you'd like it.
Speaker 2: Jack a final thought.
Speaker 1: We have no outdoor Christmas lights at our house, and
Speaker 1: my son was telling me about the new trend is
Speaker 1: these projectors and the like project Christmas stuff on your house.
Speaker 2: And change it up. Have you seen those?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, are they cool? I have? The good ones
Speaker 2: are good. The cheaper ones are not great. But it's
Speaker 2: an alternative. Maybe I'll get a good noxious if they're moving.
Speaker 2: Sounds very easy to set up, which is right in
Speaker 2: my wheelhouse. So a question about Christmas. You mentioned you
Speaker 2: got a tree. Did you rape the land again and
Speaker 2: kill a living tree for your holiday pleasures? Yes? Or
Speaker 2: you could, like my family, employ americans, hard working Americans,
Speaker 2: to build a permanent tree and not rape the land
Speaker 2: up to.
Speaker 1: You plastic trees making the baby Jesus crack. I think
Speaker 1: that's pretty obvious. Armstrong and Geddy wrapick up. Another grueling
Speaker 1: four hour workday.
Speaker 2: So many people think good Armstrong Egeeddy dot com look
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Speaker 1: We will see you tomorrow with all the news and
Speaker 1: everything else. God bless America.
Speaker 7: I'm in hope and get back up and remember who
Speaker 7: in the hell we are.
Speaker 1: I'm strong and getty, so Dad, I'm around us school
Speaker 1: we were able to pull this off.
Speaker 7: We're the nine Inche States of American What the hell
Speaker 7: was that we're the nine inche states of Americans.
Speaker 2: So let's go with the.
Speaker 6: Buying that they know the intentions of narco terrorists on boats.
Speaker 6: Yet we're so blind to see that they had a
Speaker 6: president for four years that was operating as a vegetable
Speaker 6: in Joe Biden on
Speaker 2: That high note, arms Strong and Getty