WEBVTT - TechStuff Classic: TechStuff Gets Tattooed and Pierced

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to text Stuff, a production from my Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love all things tech and it is time

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<v Speaker 1>for another classic episode of tech Stuff. This one originally

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<v Speaker 1>published on August twenty six, two thirteen. It is titled

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff Gets Tattooed and Pierced. Now I'm only one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things. But between the time we recorded that

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<v Speaker 1>show and now, I got another tattoo, So I've got multiple.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, let's go back and listen to this classic

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<v Speaker 1>episode about tattoos and piercings. Speaking of regular old tattoos,

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<v Speaker 1>in the interest of full disclosure, I've got two of them,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can actually talk about the physical experience of

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<v Speaker 1>receiving a tattoo as well as the actual science and

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<v Speaker 1>technology that goes into producing a tattoo. Well, I have

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<v Speaker 1>zero tattoos while we're while we're talking about it, but

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<v Speaker 1>my ears are pierced. Does that Does that help? That

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<v Speaker 1>that's body modification. I'm actually also interests of all disclosure,

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<v Speaker 1>debating getting a new ear pierced. Just just one, just one,

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<v Speaker 1>just one. I don't know that's going to happen too,

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<v Speaker 1>because I keep thinking I might be too old for that.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about tattoos. That's a good starting point, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I Mean, ear piercing is probably the lowest on the

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<v Speaker 1>scale because it's the most socially accepted form of body

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<v Speaker 1>modification in our culture. You know, it's one in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States that ear piercing is. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty pretty pretty beign. Yeah, very common. So it's no

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<v Speaker 1>one would blink an eye really, depending upon the type

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<v Speaker 1>of piercing. I mean, there are more extreme piercings that

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<v Speaker 1>that some people would look at and go, wow, that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty extreme, but it's still kind of on the theme.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, at least as far as our society is concerned. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>But tattoos. Tattoos are one of those things that we

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of information about about how they happen. Yeah, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and they are getting more common. According to a Harris

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<v Speaker 1>Pole of American adults have one, um, including thirty eight

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<v Speaker 1>percent of people between the ages of thirty and thirty nine. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I fall into that category. Yeah, you know, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually I'm always thinking about what my next one's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be By the way, there's a common saying that

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<v Speaker 1>tattoos are addictive that is kind of well, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>physiologically true, but psychologically it is kind of true because

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<v Speaker 1>after you take the plunge the first time, you think,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of want more. So clearly, when we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about tattoos in this podcast, we're really going to be

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<v Speaker 1>focusing on the way that modern tattoos happened. But it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it behooves us to talk about tattooing has

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty long history. Yeah. Recent documentation from the Siberian

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<v Speaker 1>Times reported that some of the permafrost preserved uh, like

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<v Speaker 1>like ice princesses and stuff like that, have shown um

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<v Speaker 1>from you know, fifth century BC have shown tattoos much

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<v Speaker 1>like modern ones that particular articles strangely enough to link

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<v Speaker 1>out to any scholarly institutions or or reporting sorain of salt. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but still well yeah, and then there have been reports

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, tattoos being found on ancient Egyptian mummies

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<v Speaker 1>from about two thousand BC. Uh. And then of course

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<v Speaker 1>the word tattoo we get from a Tahitian word which

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<v Speaker 1>essentially means to mark, which makes sense, and that that

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<v Speaker 1>word started to appear in English writing right around the

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<v Speaker 1>time that old James Cook was exploring the South Pacific,

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<v Speaker 1>so about seventeen sixty nine. Now, tattoos are all done

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<v Speaker 1>in essentially the same way, which involves piercing the skin

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<v Speaker 1>and inserting some mak. But the tattoo machine is a

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<v Speaker 1>little more recent. That comes to us from the late

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen hundreds, so late nineteenth century, and that was a

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<v Speaker 1>improvement by one Samuel O'Reilly on a machine patented by

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas Edison. Yes, Thomas Essen's machine was not meant to tattoo.

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<v Speaker 1>It was meant to engrave metal, and it was meant

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<v Speaker 1>to create stencils, and it was called an electric pen,

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<v Speaker 1>also known as the autographic printer, and that was something

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<v Speaker 1>that was invented right around eight or so. But what

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<v Speaker 1>O'Reilly said was, you know, I'm a tattoo artist. He

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<v Speaker 1>actually had been a tattoo artist in New York. He

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<v Speaker 1>was an Irish immigrant came to New York sometime in

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<v Speaker 1>the eighteen seventies, set up shop, saw the electric pin

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<v Speaker 1>by Thomas Edison. And it's interesting because that device that

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas Essen made never really became popular for what it

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<v Speaker 1>was designed to do. There were other technologies that came

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<v Speaker 1>along shortly thereafter that made it more or less obsolete. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And also you know, for for for hand engraving. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot um more efficient to in machine engrave

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<v Speaker 1>than it is to handingring. Right. So o'reiley takes a

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<v Speaker 1>look at this and says, wait a minute, though, this

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<v Speaker 1>thing that maybe isn't so great for what it was

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<v Speaker 1>meant to do might do something else if I just

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<v Speaker 1>make a few modifications. Yeah, if I just changed the

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<v Speaker 1>tube system to to accommodate inc and um uh, modified

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<v Speaker 1>the oscillating unit to drive a needle rather than a Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose it was a needle to begin with, right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's a different style needle like the needles that

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<v Speaker 1>was in the electric pin. You would not want to

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<v Speaker 1>touch your skin because it was enormous. It was huge

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<v Speaker 1>and a little bit scary. It was, yes, certainly, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny if you want to actually take a look

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<v Speaker 1>at the patent. The patent was issued on December eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's on the patent application, you can actually look

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<v Speaker 1>up patents for free online. Google has a very good

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<v Speaker 1>patent searching. This one comes right up if you do

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<v Speaker 1>a patent searching Google. Uh. It's patent number four six

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<v Speaker 1>for eight oh one and the name of it is

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<v Speaker 1>tattooing machine. Both yes, both both that and Edison's machine. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>The patents for them still exist. In The illustrations are

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<v Speaker 1>very fancy and pretty. Yes, and I've seen some really

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<v Speaker 1>slap dash patent tellstration my day, but these are top notch.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some there's some ones for some particularly high tech

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<v Speaker 1>gadgets that when you look at them, you think it

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<v Speaker 1>was someone drunk when they drew this, And it just

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<v Speaker 1>shows that, you know, engineers and artists don't always combine

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<v Speaker 1>into one person right at anything rate. So you look

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<v Speaker 1>at this pattern, it's very interesting it It does have

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<v Speaker 1>that ink reservoir and it's got the ability to channel

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<v Speaker 1>inc down to this needle. The needle, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>is solid. It's not like a hollow needle or anything, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the idea is that the needle is contained

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<v Speaker 1>within a small chamber that holds the ink, and then

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<v Speaker 1>when the needle pushes down out through that chamber, it

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<v Speaker 1>takes takes a drop off then right, and it pierces

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<v Speaker 1>the skin and deposits the ink underneath. Specifically in the dermist,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're going underneath the epidermis, which which sheds and

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<v Speaker 1>cycles so frequently that if you put it in the epidermis,

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<v Speaker 1>it would stick around for not very long at all,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly not a lifetime like if you have if you

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<v Speaker 1>have ever had either, you know, well, temporary tattoo will

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<v Speaker 1>just wash off eventually. But if you were to get

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<v Speaker 1>like a henna tattoo, something that stains the skin, then

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<v Speaker 1>you know that eventually that skin, no matter how careful

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<v Speaker 1>you are, that design is gonna go away because you

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<v Speaker 1>will shed that skin. You know that skin will end

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<v Speaker 1>up flaking off of you. It becomes dust. Actually, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what a lot of the dust in our world is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's skin scale. Yeah, I mean a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>dust that you encounter on a day to day basis.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty much from your body, happy thought anyway. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the tattoo is permanent because it is actually staining the dermists,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, not the epidermists. So we were actually

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<v Speaker 1>looking at a tattoo through the epidermists. Think of the

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<v Speaker 1>epidermist is kind of like a window, and the dermist

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<v Speaker 1>is where you're actually seeing the design imprinted and your

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<v Speaker 1>typical tattoo needle according to our article on how stuff

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<v Speaker 1>works dot com, there's you know how tattoos work? We

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<v Speaker 1>actually have this article. Uh, the needle can move between

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<v Speaker 1>fifty and three thousand times per minute. Now that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>the same frequency as the electric pen that Thomas Edison created.

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<v Speaker 1>So I suspect that most needles probably move significantly faster

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<v Speaker 1>than fifty times per minute, because that would be um, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd have essentially one us once a second, So think

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<v Speaker 1>about that one one to one THO you'd be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>oh stop it. I I suppose, depending upon the type

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<v Speaker 1>of work being done. Yes, I am not a tattooed professional.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be a really interesting question to ask a

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<v Speaker 1>tattooed professional. Outlining versus shading is very different. I can

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<v Speaker 1>save you from experience both on the performance end. Not

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say that from experience, but from the recipient.

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<v Speaker 1>And I sure as heck can tell you there's a

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<v Speaker 1>world of difference in the pain levels that you experience

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<v Speaker 1>from outlining versus shading. Um. Now, it's also interesting you

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<v Speaker 1>know your your experience of pain will depend upon several things,

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<v Speaker 1>like your own threshold of pain. Obviously, mind's a pretty high.

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<v Speaker 1>But it also depends on where you get the tattoo. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there's certain surfaces where you know it's nice and fleshy

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not gonna you might feel like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a buzzing sensation and maybe some tingling, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>terribly painful. And then there are other areas where it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like someone's really pinching you pretty hard, or may

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<v Speaker 1>be getting like a bit of a bee sting. I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard that anything close to it close to the bond.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got one on my left shoulder blade, and anytime

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<v Speaker 1>it got to the point where it was close to

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<v Speaker 1>the actual bone was significantly more painful than the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the tattoo. And I've also got one on my

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<v Speaker 1>left arm, and anything on the inside of the arm

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<v Speaker 1>was more painful than the outside. But yeah, so you've

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<v Speaker 1>got with your basic tattoo gun, your tattoo machine. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got the the unit that the tattoo artist holds in

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<v Speaker 1>his or her hand, which has a tube that houses

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<v Speaker 1>the needle. It's got the ink uh the ink chamber

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<v Speaker 1>or a little ink thing will will actually screw into it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's usually a foot pedal control that controls

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<v Speaker 1>the depth of the needle so that the tattoo artists

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<v Speaker 1>can be very precise when actually putting the tattoo onto

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<v Speaker 1>your skin. It'll be more or less a millimeter, depending

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<v Speaker 1>on you know, and where it is. Yeah, but about

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<v Speaker 1>a millimeters is that's that's a pretty good estimation. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's the machine itself is is brilliantly simple. It's based

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<v Speaker 1>on or. It's kind of similar to what a sewing

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<v Speaker 1>machine is. If that metaphor doesn't totally skip you up completely,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually perfectly fine with that. Yeah, but I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it's because I've had a couple of tattoos and needles

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<v Speaker 1>don't typically bother me. But I do understand there are

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<v Speaker 1>people who have real psychological issues with anything that has

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<v Speaker 1>to do with needles with needles. Totally understand that. But

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<v Speaker 1>but so so the gun. The gun contains a circuit

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<v Speaker 1>that runs through an electromagnet, and that circuit is opened

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<v Speaker 1>and closed via the vibrations of a spring loaded a

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<v Speaker 1>read or uh panel um and and those vibrations are

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<v Speaker 1>controlled by a weight like a pendulum that's placed along

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<v Speaker 1>that that flaunched interesting um and now the vibrations are

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<v Speaker 1>caused by cycling power through the electromagnet, so they have

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<v Speaker 1>the fluctuating electric magnetic field and that going to start

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<v Speaker 1>causing some vibration, and the read is connected at the

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<v Speaker 1>top um uh to to the to the base of

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<v Speaker 1>the needle, and therefore the vibrations of it pushed the

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<v Speaker 1>needle up and down. And it makes it very very

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<v Speaker 1>simple to use. Very I mean, the the cycle is

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<v Speaker 1>is self perpetuating until you cut off the electricity supply

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<v Speaker 1>entirely and you have a simple reciprocating motion that yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it is so really the the complexity here comes

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<v Speaker 1>in the actual execution of making a tattoo, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>where the artistry and skill really comes in. Because operating

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<v Speaker 1>the machinery is pretty simple. It's the handling it properly

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<v Speaker 1>and making sure you're doing not only a wonderful artistic job,

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<v Speaker 1>but that you're doing it safely right, and the safety

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<v Speaker 1>issue is one of those One of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>I do know very very well about tattoo parlors is

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<v Speaker 1>that if it does not smell like a hospital, like

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<v Speaker 1>a really good clean hospital, gone get out. Yeah, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so so for any of you guys out there who

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<v Speaker 1>are considering tattoos. Uh, you know, make sure you do

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<v Speaker 1>your research check and it makes certain that all the

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<v Speaker 1>different whatever tattoo parlor you're looking at, is on the

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<v Speaker 1>up and up, that they follow very strict uh sterilization processes,

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<v Speaker 1>that they are very careful to have one use items

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<v Speaker 1>and then they discard them and they don't ever use

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<v Speaker 1>them again. Some some parts of the tattoo machine are reusable,

0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:28.760
<v Speaker 1>and that's perfectly fine, and we'll talk about those which

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<v Speaker 1>even those you make sure they have, like an autoclave

0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.760
<v Speaker 1>clave they are they are sterilizing their equipment because you

0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.040
<v Speaker 1>want to heat things to either two or two hundred

0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and seventy degrees depending on the pressure and the time

0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:43.160
<v Speaker 1>length that you're using. Yeah, and we'll talk a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about the autoclave specifically in just a second to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of explain what that is for those of you

0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:49.480
<v Speaker 1>who don't know. But the whole purpose here is to

0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:52.760
<v Speaker 1>kill off any kind of bacteria or other organism that

0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:56.520
<v Speaker 1>could cause infection or disease. And because like we said,

0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:58.680
<v Speaker 1>you're what a tattoo is is a you know, a

0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.240
<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of little punctures in your skin. Punctures can

0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:03.920
<v Speaker 1>get infected it's it's an open wound. Yeah, yeah, any

0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:06.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of heels up right. But yeah, any kind of

0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:10.200
<v Speaker 1>wound has the potential to get infected. So it's very

0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:14.000
<v Speaker 1>important that you find a place that is reputable and clean.

0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.559
<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, it's Jonathan from twenty twenty. While you're getting

0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:20.680
<v Speaker 1>inked and pierced and everything, we're gonna take a quick break,

0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:31.480
<v Speaker 1>but we'll be right back. So the basic parts of

0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.280
<v Speaker 1>this tattoo that you've got, the sterilized needle and those

0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.720
<v Speaker 1>are one use. That's that should just every time you

0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:39.600
<v Speaker 1>go to a tattoo parlor, if you're getting a tattoo,

0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:41.920
<v Speaker 1>the needles they have should be one use needles and

0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:45.840
<v Speaker 1>sterilized packets that they should open right in front in

0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:47.600
<v Speaker 1>front of you, right before they start their work. Right.

0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Those packets should remain sealed until they're ready to do work.

0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.120
<v Speaker 1>So they open it up and they put in the

0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:57.120
<v Speaker 1>needle into the machine which has already been cleaned in

0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:00.400
<v Speaker 1>the autoclave. And I'll get to that in a second. Uh.

0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:04.479
<v Speaker 1>Other things that need to be single use include ink, ink, cups, gloves,

0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:07.520
<v Speaker 1>All of this kind of stuff needs to be one

0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:11.560
<v Speaker 1>use in sterile packaging to minimize the risk of any

0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of contamination. So make sure. And it's perfectly fine

0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:19.600
<v Speaker 1>to ask questions any reputable tattoo artists because it shows

0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:21.680
<v Speaker 1>that you have done your research and that you're serious

0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:24.840
<v Speaker 1>about it. And again, if they're reputable, they'll have no

0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.880
<v Speaker 1>problem answering your questions being able to show you what

0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.000
<v Speaker 1>what is they do to stay? I think if you

0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:31.520
<v Speaker 1>a grief about it, get out of here and don't

0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:35.320
<v Speaker 1>don't go there, go somewhere else. Um. So UH. The

0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:39.160
<v Speaker 1>autoclave is actually think of it as like a machine

0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:42.320
<v Speaker 1>that generates lots of heat, pressure, and steam. Those are

0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:46.400
<v Speaker 1>essentially the three components there, and it's often used in

0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Autoclaves are used in medical facilities to clean medical uh equipment.

0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:55.040
<v Speaker 1>So you the way it works as you would put

0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.560
<v Speaker 1>stuff in a little pouch, each one with each piece

0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.440
<v Speaker 1>of the equipment would get its own little pouch. UH.

0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.760
<v Speaker 1>This equipment would be things like the needle bar and

0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:04.960
<v Speaker 1>the tube of the machine. So these would be the

0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:07.880
<v Speaker 1>bits that would be used again and again they go

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<v Speaker 1>into their little pounches. Each pouch has a little indicator

0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:14.040
<v Speaker 1>strip on the outside for when everything is has been

0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:17.600
<v Speaker 1>heated to the correct temperature. That indicates yeah, exactly. It

0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:21.240
<v Speaker 1>says essentially that that sticker changes color and it tells

0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.280
<v Speaker 1>you what's not sticker. But the indicator changes color and

0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.320
<v Speaker 1>it tells you everything in here is dead you and so.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh but yeah, like you said, it can heat depending

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<v Speaker 1>upon the settings. The general rule of thumb is two

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<v Speaker 1>or fifty degrees fahrenheight or a hundred twenty one degrees

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<v Speaker 1>celsius for ten pounds of pressure for thirty minutes, or

0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:44.040
<v Speaker 1>to seventy degrees fahrenheit or one two celsius at fifteen

0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:47.240
<v Speaker 1>pounds of pressure for fifteen minutes. Uh. That is the

0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:51.720
<v Speaker 1>standard upberating procedure. The tattoo parlors should be following one

0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.880
<v Speaker 1>of those two with its autoclave. And uh, there you go.

0:15:55.240 --> 0:16:00.080
<v Speaker 1>That is your standard approach to sterilize the reu do

0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:03.760
<v Speaker 1>bowl equipment. So remember ask those questions, make sure you know,

0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.440
<v Speaker 1>you do your research, and uh and if everything's on

0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.640
<v Speaker 1>the up and up, then enjoy your painful experience. It's

0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:11.480
<v Speaker 1>really not that bad, depending up on where you get it,

0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and how big the tattoo is, and and and your

0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:18.200
<v Speaker 1>personal tolerance and the skill of the of the artists.

0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.240
<v Speaker 1>I had an incredible tattoo artists who did both. The

0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:24.400
<v Speaker 1>same guy did both my tattoos, and uh, and he

0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:28.320
<v Speaker 1>was just he was not only really skilled at creating

0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:33.320
<v Speaker 1>beautiful designs, he also really minimized all the discomfort. I

0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:35.960
<v Speaker 1>mean there was some, especially around the shoulder blade area,

0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.760
<v Speaker 1>but it was it was nothing too intense. Like, it

0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:42.960
<v Speaker 1>was nothing more intense than you know, a minor beasting.

0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:47.160
<v Speaker 1>So assuming you're not allergic to bees and you've experienced

0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.200
<v Speaker 1>a beasting and it wasn't a big deal, that's pretty

0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:52.160
<v Speaker 1>much the worst it got for me personally. Right, I

0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:57.800
<v Speaker 1>happened to be allergic to be for you compared compared

0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:00.720
<v Speaker 1>to a beasting, and you'd say I would die, That's

0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:03.480
<v Speaker 1>not what I mean. Other fun questions to ask your

0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:05.720
<v Speaker 1>tattoo artists are what kind of inks they use? Um,

0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Just as an interesting note, sometimes inks contain metallic pigments,

0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:11.600
<v Speaker 1>and um, if you ever have to go in for

0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:13.639
<v Speaker 1>an m R I after getting a tattoo with the

0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:16.600
<v Speaker 1>metallic pigment, it's not gonna fly out of your body

0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:19.400
<v Speaker 1>magneto style or anything like that. Yeah, and uh, it's

0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:21.480
<v Speaker 1>also good just to make sure that you know if

0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:23.960
<v Speaker 1>you have any known allergies. That's obviously something else you

0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:27.960
<v Speaker 1>need to discuss because there's a possibility that either the

0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.679
<v Speaker 1>ink itself could contain something that you are allergic to,

0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.159
<v Speaker 1>which could be a problem, or that some of the

0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:36.240
<v Speaker 1>other materials, like they're supposed to the whole process before

0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:42.080
<v Speaker 1>they tattoo you, they have to uh clean and shape, right,

0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:43.959
<v Speaker 1>So any anything like that, you just want to make

0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:45.560
<v Speaker 1>sure that you're not going to come into contact some

0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:47.880
<v Speaker 1>with something that's going to give you a bad reaction. Yes,

0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:49.880
<v Speaker 1>And I had one other kind of cool thing. Well,

0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:52.240
<v Speaker 1>first of all, if you're feeling in a goofy mood,

0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:54.960
<v Speaker 1>we do have a we do have a fake article

0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:58.280
<v Speaker 1>and how stuff Works about tattoos, uh, one of our

0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:01.639
<v Speaker 1>few so we we haven't done it every year, but

0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:05.240
<v Speaker 1>occasionally how stupp Works has made an April Fool's article

0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:08.320
<v Speaker 1>on how stuff works, and we have one about how

0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:12.199
<v Speaker 1>animated tattoos work, which is all about electronic tattoos that

0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:15.560
<v Speaker 1>are it's like electronic devices, right right. The story goes that,

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<v Speaker 1>And there's an actual patent for a subdermal l c

0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.480
<v Speaker 1>D screen out there that exists in the real world

0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:25.840
<v Speaker 1>that has never nothing ever really came of it, I think,

0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:29.199
<v Speaker 1>but but but but yeah, the article talks about a

0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:31.840
<v Speaker 1>little subdermal l c D that's connected to a little

0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:36.920
<v Speaker 1>magnetic battery and a small controller, and so that you

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<v Speaker 1>would be able to have a tattoo that would actually

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<v Speaker 1>be like showing video and stuff, or have an animation

0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:43.440
<v Speaker 1>on it that we could run in a loop. Now,

0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:46.160
<v Speaker 1>there are obviously some some barriers to that, the big

0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:49.280
<v Speaker 1>one being that the body tends to not like stuff

0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:51.320
<v Speaker 1>introduced to it. And we're going to talk more about

0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:52.800
<v Speaker 1>that when we get into the second half, and we

0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:56.160
<v Speaker 1>start talking about some interesting implants that there are dangers

0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:59.320
<v Speaker 1>of a body rejecting certain materials, and you can't really

0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.760
<v Speaker 1>predict which ones it's going to reject, which ones it's not.

0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:06.040
<v Speaker 1>There's some that have a lower percentage of rejection, and

0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:09.160
<v Speaker 1>even people's immune systems work differently, right, So it's kind

0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:11.199
<v Speaker 1>of a tass and it can change depending upon your

0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:12.919
<v Speaker 1>activity level too. I mean, if you get a if

0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:14.840
<v Speaker 1>you get an implant in an area that gets a

0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:19.119
<v Speaker 1>lot of like a lot of agitation, then that can

0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:21.800
<v Speaker 1>increase the odds of a rejection that kind of thing.

0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:23.840
<v Speaker 1>But we'll get into that in the second half. However,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a different kind of animated tattoo. It's not

0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:32.239
<v Speaker 1>really The tattoo itself is not animated, so it's a

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<v Speaker 1>misnomer really, But there was a guy who goes by

0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:40.800
<v Speaker 1>the handle the tattoo handle of Carl K A R L.

0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Each of those letters is capitalized with a period after it.

0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:49.679
<v Speaker 1>Sure like you. But Carl in Paris, uh American as

0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:52.399
<v Speaker 1>far as I can tell, or maybe maybe Canadian North American.

0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:54.560
<v Speaker 1>At any rate, he's a tattoo artist working in Paris,

0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:58.439
<v Speaker 1>created what he calls the first animated tattoo, and I

0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:02.119
<v Speaker 1>even have a date for you June sixteen eleven. The

0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:05.600
<v Speaker 1>first animated tattoo not really an animated tattoo. It's a

0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:09.159
<v Speaker 1>tattoo that has what was it like a flipbook? Yeah,

0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:12.159
<v Speaker 1>he actually got forty guys and tattooed to stick figure

0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:14.119
<v Speaker 1>on each of them doing something slightly different than how

0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:16.359
<v Speaker 1>to run in a circle. And then no, it's not

0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:18.919
<v Speaker 1>that would also be awesome. I don't know where you

0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:20.920
<v Speaker 1>could be able to convince forty guys to do that.

0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I am sure that you could, though I've seen a

0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:27.240
<v Speaker 1>lot of crazy tattoos out there. Know what it was

0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:30.159
<v Speaker 1>was a QR code. So you had a guy have

0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:32.800
<v Speaker 1>a tattoo with a QR code incorporated in it. Now

0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:35.680
<v Speaker 1>QR codes for those of you who don't remember, haven't

0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:38.840
<v Speaker 1>seen one in a while. Um, they were big for

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, but then they kind of like they

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fell out of favor. That don't see it

0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:45.359
<v Speaker 1>was a marketing gimmick. I mean, I feel like it

0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:48.160
<v Speaker 1>was overpromoted as the problem. It was a fine technology,

0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:51.880
<v Speaker 1>but but the way that that WiFi wound up happening,

0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that it was as necessary as people

0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:55.440
<v Speaker 1>thought that it was going. And there's a lot a

0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:58.439
<v Speaker 1>lot more work and image recognition like things that like,

0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:00.640
<v Speaker 1>there's a there's a lot more work now where software

0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:03.400
<v Speaker 1>can recognize things without there having to be some sort

0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:07.160
<v Speaker 1>of established pattern. Rare, but essentially it's it is kind

0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:09.520
<v Speaker 1>of like the next generation of the bar code. It

0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.199
<v Speaker 1>was those those blocky pictures you've ever if you've ever

0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:15.160
<v Speaker 1>seen them, they're they're a square that have a little

0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:19.760
<v Speaker 1>black except it's all block it's all hard edges but

0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:23.320
<v Speaker 1>pixelated R shack test. Yeah, there you go exactly. And

0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:26.320
<v Speaker 1>so this was incorporated in the tattoo and in fact,

0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:28.000
<v Speaker 1>they didn't know if it was gonna work while they're

0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:30.160
<v Speaker 1>this guy is getting tattooed and they have no idea

0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:32.119
<v Speaker 1>if it's going to work or not because they don't know.

0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:35.879
<v Speaker 1>You know, it takes precision again, because the digital camera

0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:39.120
<v Speaker 1>sensor has to take a image of this and then

0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:42.240
<v Speaker 1>the software has to analyze it and interpret that as

0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:46.359
<v Speaker 1>uh information in some way. And if the tattoo artist

0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:48.280
<v Speaker 1>had made a block a little too big or a

0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:52.320
<v Speaker 1>little too small, it wouldn't it wouldn't when it wouldn't

0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:56.120
<v Speaker 1>coordinate with that information, right. So in this case, what

0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:59.800
<v Speaker 1>the QR code did was it prompted the smartphone to

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<v Speaker 1>then go to YouTube and pull up a video of

0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:07.800
<v Speaker 1>an animated version of the tattoo design singing opera. Yeah,

0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:10.159
<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit a round headed guy with like

0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:12.520
<v Speaker 1>a little top hat and a big handlebar mustache singing

0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:16.480
<v Speaker 1>opera in the middle of this tattoo. And then that's

0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:18.280
<v Speaker 1>that's what the tattoo was. I mean, I mean, I've

0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:22.159
<v Speaker 1>seen some some esthetic barcodes on people that you know,

0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:26.240
<v Speaker 1>I hit Man style, like basically skull hit Man or

0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:28.560
<v Speaker 1>you know. I I think there's a probably a lot

0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:31.840
<v Speaker 1>of science fiction that I'm forgetting that includes some something

0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:33.960
<v Speaker 1>like this, but there's probably like some sort of twelve

0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Monkeys type thing. Yeah, there's totally an episode of reboot.

0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:40.359
<v Speaker 1>But uh yeah, yeah that show I don't watch, right, yeah,

0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:43.959
<v Speaker 1>Jonathan twenty again, we're gonna take a quick break, but

0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:53.919
<v Speaker 1>we'll return in just a moment. Well, that that's like

0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:56.080
<v Speaker 1>the big tattoo thing, right, We wanted to cover that

0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:58.280
<v Speaker 1>pretty extensively because that's one of those that has the

0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:01.120
<v Speaker 1>really cool toy, if you want to put it that way,

0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:03.520
<v Speaker 1>the piece of technology. But there are other things we

0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:06.520
<v Speaker 1>can talk about. Obviously. The other basic one we've already

0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:10.320
<v Speaker 1>mentioned piercing, So whether it's your ear or some other

0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:13.280
<v Speaker 1>part of your body, piercing. Now, of course that involves

0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:16.280
<v Speaker 1>creating a whole which jewelry will then pass through. So

0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:20.240
<v Speaker 1>piercing usually means that you're seeing the ends of a

0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:23.879
<v Speaker 1>piece of jewelry, right, whether it's like a barbell or

0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:26.640
<v Speaker 1>if it's a stud or a hoop or whatever, you're

0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:30.280
<v Speaker 1>seeing the exterior part. That's that's the part that's on display. Yes,

0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:34.640
<v Speaker 1>there there's another form of piercing. Um, what's it called pocketing?

0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:37.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, pocketing, which we'll talk about in a little bit.

0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:40.000
<v Speaker 1>But pocketings. Pocketing is kind of They call it anti piercing,

0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:42.080
<v Speaker 1>And the reason why they call it anti piercing is

0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:45.680
<v Speaker 1>that pocketing involves creating pockets of skin. This is where

0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I started getting a little creepy crawley. Uh. Like I said,

0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:52.439
<v Speaker 1>my my tolerance level is probably fairly normal when it

0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:56.280
<v Speaker 1>comes to body modification, normal in the sense of what

0:23:56.520 --> 0:24:00.080
<v Speaker 1>the society norms are. I don't judge anyone who's on

0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:02.879
<v Speaker 1>through and gotten body modification because whatever you want to

0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:05.879
<v Speaker 1>do to to assert your identity, as long as you're

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<v Speaker 1>not hurting anyone else, I'm totally for it. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>that if I look at it and I go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that that looks like that must be uncomfortable. But pocketing, essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>what that means is you create these pockets in the

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<v Speaker 1>skin surgically, you actually cut open and create surgical pockets,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm guessing at some point you need to be

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<v Speaker 1>lined with something to keep it from being just an

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<v Speaker 1>open wound. But the jewelry is inserted. The ends of

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<v Speaker 1>the jewelry are inserted in either pockets. So think of

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<v Speaker 1>two pockets that are facing one another, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>jewelry the end of it fits in one and the

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<v Speaker 1>other end fits in the other, and so the the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the jewelry is exposed as opposed to the ends.

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<v Speaker 1>The ends of the jewelry are inside the pockets, so

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<v Speaker 1>they are out of you. And this can be done

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<v Speaker 1>in lots of ways, Like if you make really deep pockets,

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<v Speaker 1>you can make this kind of super cool but very

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<v Speaker 1>creepy effect of the skin being pulled apart because you're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing these like ribs of metal. I saw it in

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<v Speaker 1>one guy's arm where he had done the inside of

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<v Speaker 1>his forearm, where he uh, these deep pockets. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the last I don't know, a quarter inch or

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<v Speaker 1>so of the jewelry was under the skin and the

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<v Speaker 1>rest was exposed. In the middle part was exposed. Now piercing,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, that that's where you just have the whole

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<v Speaker 1>that the metal or whatever the jewelry fits through and

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<v Speaker 1>the ends are on display. And that's again and not

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<v Speaker 1>at all a new thing. I know that records of

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<v Speaker 1>nostril piercing go back as far as four thousand years

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<v Speaker 1>in the Middle East, and that both ear and nostril

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<v Speaker 1>piercing are mentioned in the Bible. Yeah, these are ancient

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<v Speaker 1>forms of of expression identity, sometimes religion. Sometimes it's religious,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's a tribal identification. I mean this is something,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the way of adorning ourselves. I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>that's something that goes back to prehistoric times. So now

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<v Speaker 1>obviously with piercing you have several of the same concerns

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<v Speaker 1>that you do with tattooing. You're talking about creating essentially

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<v Speaker 1>creating a wound in yourself, and so you want all

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<v Speaker 1>the equipment and the person delivering the equipment unto you

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<v Speaker 1>to be um as sterile as possible, A tots sterile. Yeah, so, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>like I know there are a lot of uh piercing

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<v Speaker 1>like key or there used to be. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if there still are. But when I remember when I

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<v Speaker 1>was growing up, there are a lot of the little

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<v Speaker 1>places in the mall like piercing Goda look at the

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<v Speaker 1>Claire's or whatever, like a little kiosk and they would

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<v Speaker 1>have the little piercing gun and stuff. Totally not not

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea, because that's that's a recipe for disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't know how they are sterilizing their equipment. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>if if if you know, if anything that's coming into

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<v Speaker 1>contact with you um, if they have an auto clave

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<v Speaker 1>in the back and anything that's coming into contact with

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<v Speaker 1>you has is just being opened in front of your face,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's that's a pretty good sign. Pretty good sign.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would always, I mean, like every person I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever talked to who is in to any level of

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<v Speaker 1>body modification, whether it's someone who just enjoys piercings or

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<v Speaker 1>someone who enjoys some of the things that again that

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<v Speaker 1>I would I would think of as more extreme. They

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<v Speaker 1>all say, go to a to a professional parlor, piercing parlor,

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<v Speaker 1>a place where that's what they do. And in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>there's one near my home, which is where I would

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<v Speaker 1>go and go on if I go and do it,

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<v Speaker 1>But I I did. I did get my ears pierced

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<v Speaker 1>when I was like twelve or something like that at

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<v Speaker 1>like a Claire's. I'm all but and and I have

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<v Speaker 1>never they've never been infected. It's always been fine. Sure, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's and it's not like, yeah, we don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>say that if you if you have had this done,

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<v Speaker 1>that you're living on borrowed tom which just mean that

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<v Speaker 1>the the you know, if you're considering this kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>these are the places that are going to be traditionally yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the most safe. So again again, same thing. You ask

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<v Speaker 1>questions when you get there. You ask them how they

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<v Speaker 1>how they handle their equipment, Which pieces of our equipment

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<v Speaker 1>are reusable versus one use only? How do they take

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<v Speaker 1>care of things after it's all done? You know? And

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<v Speaker 1>it's good to ask questions. It's whenever your safety and

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