1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to text Stuff, a production from my Heart Radio. 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host, 3 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio, 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: and I love all things tech and it is time 5 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: for another classic episode of tech Stuff. This one originally 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: published on August twenty six, two thirteen. It is titled 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: tech Stuff Gets Tattooed and Pierced. Now I'm only one 8 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: of those things. But between the time we recorded that 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,639 Speaker 1: show and now, I got another tattoo, So I've got multiple. 10 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: But yeah, let's go back and listen to this classic 11 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: episode about tattoos and piercings. Speaking of regular old tattoos, 12 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: in the interest of full disclosure, I've got two of them, 13 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: so I can actually talk about the physical experience of 14 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: receiving a tattoo as well as the actual science and 15 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: technology that goes into producing a tattoo. Well, I have 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: zero tattoos while we're while we're talking about it, but 17 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: my ears are pierced. Does that Does that help? That 18 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 1: that's body modification. I'm actually also interests of all disclosure, 19 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: debating getting a new ear pierced. Just just one, just one, 20 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: just one. I don't know that's going to happen too, 21 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: because I keep thinking I might be too old for that. 22 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: So let's talk about tattoos. That's a good starting point, right, 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: I Mean, ear piercing is probably the lowest on the 24 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: scale because it's the most socially accepted form of body 25 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: modification in our culture. You know, it's one in the 26 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: in the United States that ear piercing is. That's that's 27 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: pretty pretty pretty beign. Yeah, very common. So it's no 28 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: one would blink an eye really, depending upon the type 29 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: of piercing. I mean, there are more extreme piercings that 30 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: that some people would look at and go, wow, that's 31 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,919 Speaker 1: pretty extreme, but it's still kind of on the theme. 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: And yeah, at least as far as our society is concerned. Right, 33 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: But tattoos. Tattoos are one of those things that we 34 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: have a lot of information about about how they happen. Yeah, um, 35 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: and they are getting more common. According to a Harris 36 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: Pole of American adults have one, um, including thirty eight 37 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: percent of people between the ages of thirty and thirty nine. Yeah. 38 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: I fall into that category. Yeah, you know, and I'm 39 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: actually I'm always thinking about what my next one's going 40 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: to be By the way, there's a common saying that 41 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: tattoos are addictive that is kind of well, it's not 42 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: physiologically true, but psychologically it is kind of true because 43 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: after you take the plunge the first time, you think, 44 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: I kind of want more. So clearly, when we're talking 45 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: about tattoos in this podcast, we're really going to be 46 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: focusing on the way that modern tattoos happened. But it, 47 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: you know, it behooves us to talk about tattooing has 48 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: a pretty long history. Yeah. Recent documentation from the Siberian 49 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: Times reported that some of the permafrost preserved uh, like 50 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: like ice princesses and stuff like that, have shown um 51 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: from you know, fifth century BC have shown tattoos much 52 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: like modern ones that particular articles strangely enough to link 53 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 1: out to any scholarly institutions or or reporting sorain of salt. Yeah, 54 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: but still well yeah, and then there have been reports 55 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: of you know, tattoos being found on ancient Egyptian mummies 56 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: from about two thousand BC. Uh. And then of course 57 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: the word tattoo we get from a Tahitian word which 58 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: essentially means to mark, which makes sense, and that that 59 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: word started to appear in English writing right around the 60 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: time that old James Cook was exploring the South Pacific, 61 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: so about seventeen sixty nine. Now, tattoos are all done 62 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: in essentially the same way, which involves piercing the skin 63 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: and inserting some mak. But the tattoo machine is a 64 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: little more recent. That comes to us from the late 65 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds, so late nineteenth century, and that was a 66 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: improvement by one Samuel O'Reilly on a machine patented by 67 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: Thomas Edison. Yes, Thomas Essen's machine was not meant to tattoo. 68 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: It was meant to engrave metal, and it was meant 69 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: to create stencils, and it was called an electric pen, 70 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: also known as the autographic printer, and that was something 71 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: that was invented right around eight or so. But what 72 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: O'Reilly said was, you know, I'm a tattoo artist. He 73 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: actually had been a tattoo artist in New York. He 74 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: was an Irish immigrant came to New York sometime in 75 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: the eighteen seventies, set up shop, saw the electric pin 76 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: by Thomas Edison. And it's interesting because that device that 77 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: Thomas Essen made never really became popular for what it 78 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: was designed to do. There were other technologies that came 79 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: along shortly thereafter that made it more or less obsolete. Right, 80 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: And also you know, for for for hand engraving. Yeah, 81 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: it's a lot um more efficient to in machine engrave 82 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: than it is to handingring. Right. So o'reiley takes a 83 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: look at this and says, wait a minute, though, this 84 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: thing that maybe isn't so great for what it was 85 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: meant to do might do something else if I just 86 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: make a few modifications. Yeah, if I just changed the 87 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: tube system to to accommodate inc and um uh, modified 88 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: the oscillating unit to drive a needle rather than a Yeah, 89 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: I suppose it was a needle to begin with, right, right, 90 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: but there's a different style needle like the needles that 91 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: was in the electric pin. You would not want to 92 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: touch your skin because it was enormous. It was huge 93 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: and a little bit scary. It was, yes, certainly, and 94 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: it's funny if you want to actually take a look 95 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: at the patent. The patent was issued on December eight. 96 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: Because it's on the patent application, you can actually look 97 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: up patents for free online. Google has a very good 98 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: patent searching. This one comes right up if you do 99 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: a patent searching Google. Uh. It's patent number four six 100 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: for eight oh one and the name of it is 101 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: tattooing machine. Both yes, both both that and Edison's machine. Um. 102 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: The patents for them still exist. In The illustrations are 103 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: very fancy and pretty. Yes, and I've seen some really 104 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: slap dash patent tellstration my day, but these are top notch. 105 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: There's some there's some ones for some particularly high tech 106 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: gadgets that when you look at them, you think it 107 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: was someone drunk when they drew this, And it just 108 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: shows that, you know, engineers and artists don't always combine 109 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: into one person right at anything rate. So you look 110 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: at this pattern, it's very interesting it It does have 111 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: that ink reservoir and it's got the ability to channel 112 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: inc down to this needle. The needle, by the way, 113 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: is solid. It's not like a hollow needle or anything, right. 114 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: I think the idea is that the needle is contained 115 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: within a small chamber that holds the ink, and then 116 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: when the needle pushes down out through that chamber, it 117 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: takes takes a drop off then right, and it pierces 118 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: the skin and deposits the ink underneath. Specifically in the dermist, 119 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: because you're going underneath the epidermis, which which sheds and 120 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: cycles so frequently that if you put it in the epidermis, 121 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: it would stick around for not very long at all, 122 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: certainly not a lifetime like if you have if you 123 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: have ever had either, you know, well, temporary tattoo will 124 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: just wash off eventually. But if you were to get 125 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: like a henna tattoo, something that stains the skin, then 126 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: you know that eventually that skin, no matter how careful 127 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: you are, that design is gonna go away because you 128 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: will shed that skin. You know that skin will end 129 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: up flaking off of you. It becomes dust. Actually, that's 130 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: what a lot of the dust in our world is. 131 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: It's skin scale. Yeah, I mean a lot of the 132 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: dust that you encounter on a day to day basis. 133 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: That's pretty much from your body, happy thought anyway. So, yeah, 134 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: the tattoo is permanent because it is actually staining the dermists, 135 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: as you said, not the epidermists. So we were actually 136 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: looking at a tattoo through the epidermists. Think of the 137 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: epidermist is kind of like a window, and the dermist 138 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: is where you're actually seeing the design imprinted and your 139 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: typical tattoo needle according to our article on how stuff 140 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: works dot com, there's you know how tattoos work? We 141 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: actually have this article. Uh, the needle can move between 142 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: fifty and three thousand times per minute. Now that's actually 143 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: the same frequency as the electric pen that Thomas Edison created. 144 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:56,119 Speaker 1: So I suspect that most needles probably move significantly faster 145 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: than fifty times per minute, because that would be um, well, 146 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: you'd have essentially one us once a second, So think 147 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: about that one one to one THO you'd be like, oh, 148 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: oh stop it. I I suppose, depending upon the type 149 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: of work being done. Yes, I am not a tattooed professional. 150 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: That would be a really interesting question to ask a 151 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: tattooed professional. Outlining versus shading is very different. I can 152 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: save you from experience both on the performance end. Not 153 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: I can't say that from experience, but from the recipient. 154 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: And I sure as heck can tell you there's a 155 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: world of difference in the pain levels that you experience 156 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: from outlining versus shading. Um. Now, it's also interesting you 157 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: know your your experience of pain will depend upon several things, 158 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: like your own threshold of pain. Obviously, mind's a pretty high. 159 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: But it also depends on where you get the tattoo. Now, 160 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: there's certain surfaces where you know it's nice and fleshy 161 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: and you're not gonna you might feel like kind of 162 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: a buzzing sensation and maybe some tingling, but it's not 163 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,599 Speaker 1: terribly painful. And then there are other areas where it 164 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: feels like someone's really pinching you pretty hard, or may 165 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: be getting like a bit of a bee sting. I've 166 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: heard that anything close to it close to the bond. 167 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: I've got one on my left shoulder blade, and anytime 168 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: it got to the point where it was close to 169 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: the actual bone was significantly more painful than the rest 170 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: of the tattoo. And I've also got one on my 171 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: left arm, and anything on the inside of the arm 172 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: was more painful than the outside. But yeah, so you've 173 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: got with your basic tattoo gun, your tattoo machine. You've 174 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: got the the unit that the tattoo artist holds in 175 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: his or her hand, which has a tube that houses 176 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: the needle. It's got the ink uh the ink chamber 177 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: or a little ink thing will will actually screw into it, 178 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: and then there's usually a foot pedal control that controls 179 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: the depth of the needle so that the tattoo artists 180 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: can be very precise when actually putting the tattoo onto 181 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: your skin. It'll be more or less a millimeter, depending 182 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: on you know, and where it is. Yeah, but about 183 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: a millimeters is that's that's a pretty good estimation. And 184 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: it's the machine itself is is brilliantly simple. It's based 185 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: on or. It's kind of similar to what a sewing 186 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: machine is. If that metaphor doesn't totally skip you up completely, 187 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: I'm actually perfectly fine with that. Yeah, but I guess 188 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: it's because I've had a couple of tattoos and needles 189 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: don't typically bother me. But I do understand there are 190 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: people who have real psychological issues with anything that has 191 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: to do with needles with needles. Totally understand that. But 192 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: but so so the gun. The gun contains a circuit 193 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: that runs through an electromagnet, and that circuit is opened 194 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: and closed via the vibrations of a spring loaded a 195 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: read or uh panel um and and those vibrations are 196 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: controlled by a weight like a pendulum that's placed along 197 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: that that flaunched interesting um and now the vibrations are 198 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: caused by cycling power through the electromagnet, so they have 199 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: the fluctuating electric magnetic field and that going to start 200 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: causing some vibration, and the read is connected at the 201 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: top um uh to to the to the base of 202 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: the needle, and therefore the vibrations of it pushed the 203 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: needle up and down. And it makes it very very 204 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: simple to use. Very I mean, the the cycle is 205 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: is self perpetuating until you cut off the electricity supply 206 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: entirely and you have a simple reciprocating motion that yeah, 207 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: it's it is so really the the complexity here comes 208 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: in the actual execution of making a tattoo, and that's 209 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: where the artistry and skill really comes in. Because operating 210 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: the machinery is pretty simple. It's the handling it properly 211 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: and making sure you're doing not only a wonderful artistic job, 212 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: but that you're doing it safely right, and the safety 213 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: issue is one of those One of the things that 214 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: I do know very very well about tattoo parlors is 215 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: that if it does not smell like a hospital, like 216 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: a really good clean hospital, gone get out. Yeah, because yeah, 217 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: so so for any of you guys out there who 218 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: are considering tattoos. Uh, you know, make sure you do 219 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: your research check and it makes certain that all the 220 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: different whatever tattoo parlor you're looking at, is on the 221 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: up and up, that they follow very strict uh sterilization processes, 222 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: that they are very careful to have one use items 223 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: and then they discard them and they don't ever use 224 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: them again. Some some parts of the tattoo machine are reusable, 225 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: and that's perfectly fine, and we'll talk about those which 226 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: even those you make sure they have, like an autoclave 227 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: clave they are they are sterilizing their equipment because you 228 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: want to heat things to either two or two hundred 229 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: and seventy degrees depending on the pressure and the time 230 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: length that you're using. Yeah, and we'll talk a little 231 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: bit about the autoclave specifically in just a second to 232 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: kind of explain what that is for those of you 233 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: who don't know. But the whole purpose here is to 234 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: kill off any kind of bacteria or other organism that 235 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: could cause infection or disease. And because like we said, 236 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: you're what a tattoo is is a you know, a 237 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: whole bunch of little punctures in your skin. Punctures can 238 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: get infected it's it's an open wound. Yeah, yeah, any 239 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: kind of heels up right. But yeah, any kind of 240 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: wound has the potential to get infected. So it's very 241 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: important that you find a place that is reputable and clean. 242 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's Jonathan from twenty twenty. While you're getting 243 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: inked and pierced and everything, we're gonna take a quick break, 244 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: but we'll be right back. So the basic parts of 245 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: this tattoo that you've got, the sterilized needle and those 246 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: are one use. That's that should just every time you 247 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: go to a tattoo parlor, if you're getting a tattoo, 248 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: the needles they have should be one use needles and 249 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: sterilized packets that they should open right in front in 250 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: front of you, right before they start their work. Right. 251 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: Those packets should remain sealed until they're ready to do work. 252 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: So they open it up and they put in the 253 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: needle into the machine which has already been cleaned in 254 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: the autoclave. And I'll get to that in a second. Uh. 255 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,479 Speaker 1: Other things that need to be single use include ink, ink, cups, gloves, 256 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: All of this kind of stuff needs to be one 257 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: use in sterile packaging to minimize the risk of any 258 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: kind of contamination. So make sure. And it's perfectly fine 259 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: to ask questions any reputable tattoo artists because it shows 260 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: that you have done your research and that you're serious 261 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: about it. And again, if they're reputable, they'll have no 262 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: problem answering your questions being able to show you what 263 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: what is they do to stay? I think if you 264 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: a grief about it, get out of here and don't 265 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: don't go there, go somewhere else. Um. So UH. The 266 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: autoclave is actually think of it as like a machine 267 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: that generates lots of heat, pressure, and steam. Those are 268 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: essentially the three components there, and it's often used in 269 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: Autoclaves are used in medical facilities to clean medical uh equipment. 270 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: So you the way it works as you would put 271 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: stuff in a little pouch, each one with each piece 272 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: of the equipment would get its own little pouch. UH. 273 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: This equipment would be things like the needle bar and 274 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: the tube of the machine. So these would be the 275 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: bits that would be used again and again they go 276 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: into their little pounches. Each pouch has a little indicator 277 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: strip on the outside for when everything is has been 278 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: heated to the correct temperature. That indicates yeah, exactly. It 279 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: says essentially that that sticker changes color and it tells 280 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: you what's not sticker. But the indicator changes color and 281 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: it tells you everything in here is dead you and so. 282 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: Uh but yeah, like you said, it can heat depending 283 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: upon the settings. The general rule of thumb is two 284 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: or fifty degrees fahrenheight or a hundred twenty one degrees 285 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: celsius for ten pounds of pressure for thirty minutes, or 286 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: to seventy degrees fahrenheit or one two celsius at fifteen 287 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: pounds of pressure for fifteen minutes. Uh. That is the 288 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: standard upberating procedure. The tattoo parlors should be following one 289 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: of those two with its autoclave. And uh, there you go. 290 00:15:55,240 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: That is your standard approach to sterilize the reu do 291 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: bowl equipment. So remember ask those questions, make sure you know, 292 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: you do your research, and uh and if everything's on 293 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: the up and up, then enjoy your painful experience. It's 294 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: really not that bad, depending up on where you get it, 295 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: and how big the tattoo is, and and and your 296 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: personal tolerance and the skill of the of the artists. 297 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: I had an incredible tattoo artists who did both. The 298 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: same guy did both my tattoos, and uh, and he 299 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: was just he was not only really skilled at creating 300 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: beautiful designs, he also really minimized all the discomfort. I 301 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: mean there was some, especially around the shoulder blade area, 302 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: but it was it was nothing too intense. Like, it 303 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: was nothing more intense than you know, a minor beasting. 304 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: So assuming you're not allergic to bees and you've experienced 305 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: a beasting and it wasn't a big deal, that's pretty 306 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: much the worst it got for me personally. Right, I 307 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: happened to be allergic to be for you compared compared 308 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: to a beasting, and you'd say I would die, That's 309 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: not what I mean. Other fun questions to ask your 310 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: tattoo artists are what kind of inks they use? Um, 311 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: Just as an interesting note, sometimes inks contain metallic pigments, 312 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: and um, if you ever have to go in for 313 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: an m R I after getting a tattoo with the 314 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: metallic pigment, it's not gonna fly out of your body 315 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: magneto style or anything like that. Yeah, and uh, it's 316 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: also good just to make sure that you know if 317 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: you have any known allergies. That's obviously something else you 318 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: need to discuss because there's a possibility that either the 319 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: ink itself could contain something that you are allergic to, 320 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: which could be a problem, or that some of the 321 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: other materials, like they're supposed to the whole process before 322 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: they tattoo you, they have to uh clean and shape, right, 323 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 1: So any anything like that, you just want to make 324 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: sure that you're not going to come into contact some 325 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: with something that's going to give you a bad reaction. Yes, 326 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: And I had one other kind of cool thing. Well, 327 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: first of all, if you're feeling in a goofy mood, 328 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: we do have a we do have a fake article 329 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: and how stuff Works about tattoos, uh, one of our 330 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: few so we we haven't done it every year, but 331 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: occasionally how stupp Works has made an April Fool's article 332 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: on how stuff works, and we have one about how 333 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: animated tattoos work, which is all about electronic tattoos that 334 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: are it's like electronic devices, right right. The story goes that, 335 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: And there's an actual patent for a subdermal l c 336 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: D screen out there that exists in the real world 337 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: that has never nothing ever really came of it, I think, 338 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: but but but but yeah, the article talks about a 339 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: little subdermal l c D that's connected to a little 340 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: magnetic battery and a small controller, and so that you 341 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: would be able to have a tattoo that would actually 342 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: be like showing video and stuff, or have an animation 343 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: on it that we could run in a loop. Now, 344 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: there are obviously some some barriers to that, the big 345 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: one being that the body tends to not like stuff 346 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: introduced to it. And we're going to talk more about 347 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: that when we get into the second half, and we 348 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: start talking about some interesting implants that there are dangers 349 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: of a body rejecting certain materials, and you can't really 350 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: predict which ones it's going to reject, which ones it's not. 351 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: There's some that have a lower percentage of rejection, and 352 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: even people's immune systems work differently, right, So it's kind 353 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 1: of a tass and it can change depending upon your 354 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: activity level too. I mean, if you get a if 355 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: you get an implant in an area that gets a 356 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: lot of like a lot of agitation, then that can 357 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: increase the odds of a rejection that kind of thing. 358 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: But we'll get into that in the second half. However, 359 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: there is a different kind of animated tattoo. It's not 360 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,239 Speaker 1: really The tattoo itself is not animated, so it's a 361 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: misnomer really, But there was a guy who goes by 362 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: the handle the tattoo handle of Carl K A R L. 363 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: Each of those letters is capitalized with a period after it. 364 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: Sure like you. But Carl in Paris, uh American as 365 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: far as I can tell, or maybe maybe Canadian North American. 366 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: At any rate, he's a tattoo artist working in Paris, 367 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: created what he calls the first animated tattoo, and I 368 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: even have a date for you June sixteen eleven. The 369 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: first animated tattoo not really an animated tattoo. It's a 370 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: tattoo that has what was it like a flipbook? Yeah, 371 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: he actually got forty guys and tattooed to stick figure 372 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: on each of them doing something slightly different than how 373 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: to run in a circle. And then no, it's not 374 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: that would also be awesome. I don't know where you 375 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: could be able to convince forty guys to do that. 376 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: I am sure that you could, though I've seen a 377 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: lot of crazy tattoos out there. Know what it was 378 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: was a QR code. So you had a guy have 379 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: a tattoo with a QR code incorporated in it. Now 380 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: QR codes for those of you who don't remember, haven't 381 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: seen one in a while. Um, they were big for 382 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: a little bit, but then they kind of like they 383 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: kind of fell out of favor. That don't see it 384 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: was a marketing gimmick. I mean, I feel like it 385 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: was overpromoted as the problem. It was a fine technology, 386 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: but but the way that that WiFi wound up happening, 387 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 1: I don't think that it was as necessary as people 388 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: thought that it was going. And there's a lot a 389 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: lot more work and image recognition like things that like, 390 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: there's a there's a lot more work now where software 391 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: can recognize things without there having to be some sort 392 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: of established pattern. Rare, but essentially it's it is kind 393 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: of like the next generation of the bar code. It 394 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 1: was those those blocky pictures you've ever if you've ever 395 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: seen them, they're they're a square that have a little 396 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: black except it's all block it's all hard edges but 397 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: pixelated R shack test. Yeah, there you go exactly. And 398 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: so this was incorporated in the tattoo and in fact, 399 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: they didn't know if it was gonna work while they're 400 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: this guy is getting tattooed and they have no idea 401 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: if it's going to work or not because they don't know. 402 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: You know, it takes precision again, because the digital camera 403 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: sensor has to take a image of this and then 404 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: the software has to analyze it and interpret that as 405 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: uh information in some way. And if the tattoo artist 406 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: had made a block a little too big or a 407 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: little too small, it wouldn't it wouldn't when it wouldn't 408 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: coordinate with that information, right. So in this case, what 409 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: the QR code did was it prompted the smartphone to 410 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: then go to YouTube and pull up a video of 411 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: an animated version of the tattoo design singing opera. Yeah, 412 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: it's a little bit a round headed guy with like 413 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: a little top hat and a big handlebar mustache singing 414 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: opera in the middle of this tattoo. And then that's 415 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: that's what the tattoo was. I mean, I mean, I've 416 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: seen some some esthetic barcodes on people that you know, 417 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: I hit Man style, like basically skull hit Man or 418 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: you know. I I think there's a probably a lot 419 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: of science fiction that I'm forgetting that includes some something 420 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: like this, but there's probably like some sort of twelve 421 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: Monkeys type thing. Yeah, there's totally an episode of reboot. 422 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, yeah that show I don't watch, right, yeah, 423 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,959 Speaker 1: Jonathan twenty again, we're gonna take a quick break, but 424 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: we'll return in just a moment. Well, that that's like 425 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: the big tattoo thing, right, We wanted to cover that 426 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: pretty extensively because that's one of those that has the 427 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: really cool toy, if you want to put it that way, 428 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: the piece of technology. But there are other things we 429 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: can talk about. Obviously. The other basic one we've already 430 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: mentioned piercing, So whether it's your ear or some other 431 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: part of your body, piercing. Now, of course that involves 432 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: creating a whole which jewelry will then pass through. So 433 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: piercing usually means that you're seeing the ends of a 434 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: piece of jewelry, right, whether it's like a barbell or 435 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: if it's a stud or a hoop or whatever, you're 436 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: seeing the exterior part. That's that's the part that's on display. Yes, 437 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: there there's another form of piercing. Um, what's it called pocketing? 438 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, pocketing, which we'll talk about in a little bit. 439 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: But pocketings. Pocketing is kind of They call it anti piercing, 440 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: And the reason why they call it anti piercing is 441 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: that pocketing involves creating pockets of skin. This is where 442 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: I started getting a little creepy crawley. Uh. Like I said, 443 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 1: my my tolerance level is probably fairly normal when it 444 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: comes to body modification, normal in the sense of what 445 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: the society norms are. I don't judge anyone who's on 446 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: through and gotten body modification because whatever you want to 447 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: do to to assert your identity, as long as you're 448 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: not hurting anyone else, I'm totally for it. It's just 449 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: that if I look at it and I go, oh, 450 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: that that looks like that must be uncomfortable. But pocketing, essentially, 451 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: what that means is you create these pockets in the 452 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: skin surgically, you actually cut open and create surgical pockets, 453 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: which I'm guessing at some point you need to be 454 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: lined with something to keep it from being just an 455 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: open wound. But the jewelry is inserted. The ends of 456 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: the jewelry are inserted in either pockets. So think of 457 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: two pockets that are facing one another, and then the 458 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: jewelry the end of it fits in one and the 459 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: other end fits in the other, and so the the 460 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: middle of the jewelry is exposed as opposed to the ends. 461 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: The ends of the jewelry are inside the pockets, so 462 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: they are out of you. And this can be done 463 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: in lots of ways, Like if you make really deep pockets, 464 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: you can make this kind of super cool but very 465 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 1: creepy effect of the skin being pulled apart because you're 466 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: seeing these like ribs of metal. I saw it in 467 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: one guy's arm where he had done the inside of 468 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: his forearm, where he uh, these deep pockets. So you know, 469 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: maybe the last I don't know, a quarter inch or 470 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: so of the jewelry was under the skin and the 471 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: rest was exposed. In the middle part was exposed. Now piercing, 472 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: of course, that that's where you just have the whole 473 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: that the metal or whatever the jewelry fits through and 474 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: the ends are on display. And that's again and not 475 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: at all a new thing. I know that records of 476 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: nostril piercing go back as far as four thousand years 477 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: in the Middle East, and that both ear and nostril 478 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: piercing are mentioned in the Bible. Yeah, these are ancient 479 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: forms of of expression identity, sometimes religion. Sometimes it's religious, 480 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: sometimes it's a tribal identification. I mean this is something, 481 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: you know, the way of adorning ourselves. I mean that 482 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: that's something that goes back to prehistoric times. So now 483 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: obviously with piercing you have several of the same concerns 484 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: that you do with tattooing. You're talking about creating essentially 485 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: creating a wound in yourself, and so you want all 486 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: the equipment and the person delivering the equipment unto you 487 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: to be um as sterile as possible, A tots sterile. Yeah, so, uh, 488 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: like I know there are a lot of uh piercing 489 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: like key or there used to be. I don't know 490 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: if there still are. But when I remember when I 491 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: was growing up, there are a lot of the little 492 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: places in the mall like piercing Goda look at the 493 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: Claire's or whatever, like a little kiosk and they would 494 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: have the little piercing gun and stuff. Totally not not 495 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: a good idea, because that's that's a recipe for disaster. 496 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: If you don't know how they are sterilizing their equipment. Again, 497 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: if if if you know, if anything that's coming into 498 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: contact with you um, if they have an auto clave 499 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: in the back and anything that's coming into contact with 500 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: you has is just being opened in front of your face, 501 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: that's that's that's a pretty good sign. Pretty good sign. 502 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 1: But I would always, I mean, like every person I've 503 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: ever talked to who is in to any level of 504 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: body modification, whether it's someone who just enjoys piercings or 505 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: someone who enjoys some of the things that again that 506 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: I would I would think of as more extreme. They 507 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: all say, go to a to a professional parlor, piercing parlor, 508 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: a place where that's what they do. And in fact, 509 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: there's one near my home, which is where I would 510 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: go and go on if I go and do it, 511 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: But I I did. I did get my ears pierced 512 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: when I was like twelve or something like that at 513 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: like a Claire's. I'm all but and and I have 514 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: never they've never been infected. It's always been fine. Sure, no, 515 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: it's and it's not like, yeah, we don't want to 516 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: say that if you if you have had this done, 517 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: that you're living on borrowed tom which just mean that 518 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: the the you know, if you're considering this kind of stuff, 519 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: these are the places that are going to be traditionally yes, 520 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: the most safe. So again again, same thing. You ask 521 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: questions when you get there. You ask them how they 522 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: how they handle their equipment, Which pieces of our equipment 523 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: are reusable versus one use only? How do they take 524 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: care of things after it's all done? You know? And 525 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: it's good to ask questions. It's whenever your safety and 526 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: health are concerned. Ask questions. Hey there, guys, hope you 527 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: enjoyed that classic episode of tech Stuff. If you have 528 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: suggestions or future topics I should cover on the show, 529 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: please reach out on Twitter or Facebook. The handle at 530 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: both of those is text stuff H s W and 531 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: I'll talk to you again really soon. 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