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Speaker 2: It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of the

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Speaker 2: Jesse Kelly Show. And it is time to drive the

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Speaker 2: show right off of a bridge, because I am tired

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Speaker 2: of the news right now.

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Speaker 1: It's almost Christmas time.

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Speaker 2: I'm mad about the cr I'm mad about the border.

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Speaker 2: I'm mad about all kinds of things. And I've been

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Speaker 2: nerding out on a particular subject. And we are about

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Speaker 2: to do history for you new listeners on the show.

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Speaker 2: You should understand I am a history freak from time

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Speaker 2: to time. It's not all the time, it's not even

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Speaker 2: every week, but once every month. I'd say, I completely

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Speaker 2: sidetrack the show, and I don't talk politics anymore. We'll

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Speaker 2: get some lessons from this, don't get me wrong. But

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Speaker 2: we talk about history, various stories. We've done them, more

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Speaker 2: things that I could possibly explain.

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Speaker 1: We've done Roman.

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Speaker 2: History and World War two and Genghis Khan, and we've

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Speaker 2: done European stuff. We've done South American stuff, Conquista doors.

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Speaker 2: We have been all over the map different periods of time.

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Speaker 1: I love history.

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Speaker 2: I despise how history is taught in American schools today.

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Speaker 2: Not universal at all. There are some wonderful history teachers

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Speaker 2: ran into it headlong when I was researching to get

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Speaker 2: myself ready for this. Almost all history now and the

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Speaker 2: textbooks that everything else is taught from an America sucks perspective.

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Speaker 2: It's off, it's putred. You can't just get an honest

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Speaker 2: view of it. I'm about to tell you again this

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Speaker 2: is for the new listeners. Everyone who's been listening knows this.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to pull punches. Sometimes we look good,

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Speaker 2: sometimes we look bad, but we just have an honest

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Speaker 2: accounting of history, and we tell a story and we

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Speaker 2: learn a bit about ourselves, humanity different periods of time.

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Speaker 2: So let's do it, shall we. I want you to

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Speaker 2: imagine something. I want you to imagine. You are far,

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Speaker 2: far from home. You wake up with all of your friends.

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Speaker 2: You're all soldiers. It's hot, it's humid, it's been exhausting,

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Speaker 1: Food.

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Speaker 2: It is time to eat, So you and all your buddies,

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Speaker 2: you grab your plates, you grab your cups, and you

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Speaker 2: going off. This is normal, happens every morning when you're

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Speaker 2: are going off, the church doors fly open. It's you,

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Speaker 2: doors flying open, and out of the church doors come

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Speaker 2: seventy to eighty men with machetes and knives, and they're

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Speaker 1: Today.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be about us, it's gonna be about them.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be about traditional armies versus guerrilla armies. It's

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Speaker 2: gonna evolve torture, death, politicians, all the normal things history

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Speaker 2: Let's get you prepped on the Philippines. First, and foremost

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Speaker 2: first Philippines. That we're gonna go pre Spain. All right, Philippines.

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Speaker 2: They're important, and they have been important for a long, long, long,

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Speaker 2: long long time, and it's not necessarily because of the

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Speaker 2: a good thing to do when you're studying history. Look

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Speaker 2: It really does help. It sounds stupid, I know it does.

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Speaker 2: It's not Look at a map. It'll tell you things.

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Speaker 2: Look at a map of the Philippines. Look where it is.

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Speaker 2: You see where China is, You got Australia, Japan's up there.

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Speaker 2: It is a supreme location right there. It's might as

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Speaker 2: notice it's not exactly one gigantic land mass, and it's

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Speaker 2: Philippines is thousands of islands, thousands of them. That's that's

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Speaker 1: And actually after the Spanish and kind of still are.

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Speaker 2: It was not one homogeneous society, one homogeneous culture, one

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Speaker 1: We make the mistake. I do it too.

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Speaker 2: We oversimplify everything. Whenever we think of anything, we simplify

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Speaker 2: idea how many different cultures and subcultures there are in China? Now,

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Speaker 2: That's part of how he did his revolution. Not that

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Speaker 2: and they're kind of brown, and we say, well, that's Filipino. Oh,

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Speaker 2: So he went to Spain, and Spain did. Spain was

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Speaker 2: always looking for a new way, new routes, new trade routes,

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Speaker 2: And Magellan during his travels, well towards the end of

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Speaker 2: His men are pulling back. He's in the water way,

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Speaker 2: they killed Magellan. Two, we should be there if we

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Speaker 2: gave you a little bit of background why the Spanish

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Speaker 2: was a good location. The Spanish move in. Now it's

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Speaker 2: not really a story about Spain and the Philippines, but

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Speaker 2: and it's always demonized, but everybody did it differently. There

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Speaker 2: weren't identical types of colonization. Some nations believed in the

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Speaker 2: complete ruthless subjugation of everyone who was there. Just enslave everybody, genocide,

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Speaker 2: moving in. That was, honestly, the British really did a

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Speaker 2: lot of that. The British were more prone to move in.

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Speaker 2: I know they did bad things too, but Spain. Spain

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Speaker 2: wanted first and foremost to convert everyone to Catholicism.

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Speaker 1: If you've ever.

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Speaker 2: Been to the Philippines or seen pictures of the Philippines,

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Speaker 2: or maybe you wondered why I opened up this show

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Speaker 2: Spain brought Catholicism to the Philippines. Now, it wasn't a

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Speaker 2: gentle conversion process by any.

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Speaker 1: Strench of the imagination.

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Speaker 1: It was a little little rough around.

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Speaker 2: The edges, to put it mildly, but Spain wanted to

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Speaker 2: bring Catholicism, and Spain did bring brutality there. Not all

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Speaker 1: It's been a little bit of a lead up.

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Speaker 2: The Spanish American War just kicked off in Cuba. Oh

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Speaker 2: that's not good. Well, we ended up kicking the crap

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Speaker 2: we say, hey, Dewey, you've got some ships over there

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Speaker 1: Now, remember that.

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Speaker 1: Then and now.

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Speaker 2: They did not want to just surrender. They didn't want

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Speaker 2: Accepted today that there was an agreement struck beforehand that

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Speaker 2: the win on that. But we have defeated the Spanish

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Speaker 2: in Manila. The American troops have taken it. It belongs

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Speaker 2: to us. At which point in time, the Filipinos who

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Speaker 2: are parked outside of Manila say, wow, thanks guys, that

439
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: was helpful.

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Speaker 1: So what are you leaving?

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00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 2: You guys are gonna you are gonna leave right and Americans,

442
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: we said no, not right now, We're not. In fact,

443
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: not only are we not going to leave you, Filipinos

444
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: are not allowed inside of Manila. Not all Filipinos. Remember

445
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 2: the rebel group that was outside the rebel army. We

446
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: told them you we were not allowed to come in

447
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 2: to Manila. Right now, Manila has been surrendered to us.

448
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: It is currently under our protection and we are trying

449
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: to figure out exactly what we're going to do from here.

450
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: And this, as you can imagine, did not go over

451
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Speaker 2: all that well with the Filipinos who thought they were

452
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: about to be liberated of any colonial powers. Now let's

453
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 2: pause on that because we have to go back home

454
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 2: to talk about American politics, American politicians, and how all

455
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: this stuff is landing there. Before we get to that,

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00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 2: let's talk about pure talk, because there's nothing more American

457
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: than that. Pure Talk's amazing. Pure talk hires Americans. You

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Speaker 2: don't need Verizon, you don't need AT and T, you

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Speaker 2: don't need T Mobile. The last time my son had

460
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Speaker 2: to call AT and T for some reason, this is

461
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: a few years ago, he ended up having to hang up.

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Speaker 2: He couldn't even understand what they were freaking saying on

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Speaker 2: the telephone. If you switch to pure talk as fast,

464
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Speaker 2: it's easy. It takes ten minutes on the phone. It

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Speaker 2: saves you a fortune. They're on the exact same five

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Speaker 2: G network, so you're not losing any kind of I

467
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Speaker 2: can't drop calls. That's not going to happen. And you're

468
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Speaker 2: supporting a company who's veteran fought for this country. They

469
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Speaker 2: don't support BLM and Plan parenthood, they don't do any

470
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Speaker 2: of that crap. They support veterans, and they hire Americans.

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Speaker 2: That's putting your money where your morals are. What we

472
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Speaker 2: all need to do. How easy is it? You pick

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Jesse Kelly Show. You're welcome.

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Speaker 2: It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget if you missed any power of the show.

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Speaker 2: You want to we go back to politics, You got

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485
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Speaker 2: just now joining us, We're telling a story about the

486
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Speaker 2: Philippine American War, not very well known. We have just

487
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: defeated the Spanish in what was pretty much a sham

488
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: battle for Manila. In the Philippines, the American army has

489
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: taken it. The Filipino army of rebels is outside of it.

490
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Speaker 2: We have banned them from coming into Manila. They thought

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Speaker 2: they were getting it back. We are now holding it. Now,

492
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Speaker 2: let's go back home. This is if you ever if

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Speaker 2: you ever read history, you've heard me lament this a

494
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Speaker 2: lot about how all these history teachers, all these professors,

495
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: all these history books, they always present America as being evil,

496
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Speaker 2: all evil, all genocidal, all horrible, all this, and that

497
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: America is not so simple either, nothing simple back home

498
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 2: in America, Americans were trying to figure out what we

499
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: should be doing, what's okay, what's not okay in the Philippines,

500
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: in Cuba, what kind of country did we want to be?

501
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Speaker 2: We saw ourselves as being better than the English, better

502
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: than Spanish. We're going to do things the right way.

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Speaker 2: And even there there were arguments back and forth. There

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00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: were all kinds of American politicians. You can go read

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Speaker 2: about the arguments in the Senate at the time very divided.

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Speaker 2: There were senators who said, hey, these Filipinos why don't

507
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Speaker 2: we help them, Why don't we stay there, Why don't

508
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Speaker 2: we build schools, Why don't we make the place more modern?

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Speaker 1: Why don't why don't we help them out?

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Speaker 2: And then there were other senators who said, no, that's crazy,

511
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Speaker 2: that would make us just like the Spanish. We need

512
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: to be nice, we should leave, we should give it back.

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00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: It was a huge argument at the time. Now, remember

514
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: when I told you the treaty had not been signed yet,

515
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: the war had not officially ended.

516
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: The Spanish American War.

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Speaker 2: Well, one night in Manila, it pops off, as it

518
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Speaker 2: normally does when tensions are high, Filipino soldier approaches the

519
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Speaker 2: American lines. These stories on what happened next are going

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00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: to depend on what you read. If you read any

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00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: Filipino sources, which I read and watched many preparing for this,

522
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: they will every one of them to a man, and

523
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 2: they may be accurate. Say the guy didn't understand the

524
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: cause of halt because the American troops were saying, halt,

525
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Speaker 2: don't come any closers, halt stop, And all the Filipino

526
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: sources say, this poor innocent guy didn't understand the cause

527
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Speaker 2: of halt. If you read some others and these are

528
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: very hard to find. These virtually every source tries to

529
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: make us look like the devil. There are other sources,

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Speaker 2: and in fact, I'm one of these that has a

531
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Speaker 2: very hard time believing you need to understand English to

532
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Speaker 2: know what halt means a soldier. If you could put

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Speaker 2: me anywhere, you know, I only speak three languages, English, Mexican,

534
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Speaker 2: and some European. So if you were to put me

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Speaker 2: in China and I was walking towards the lines of

536
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Speaker 2: soldiers and they were telling me to stop in Mandarin.

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Speaker 1: I'm not the smartest person.

538
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: To put it mildly, I'm pretty sure I would understand

539
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: exactly what they're saying. It's not difficult to figure out

540
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: when a group of soldiers you're walking towards want you

541
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: to stop walking towards them.

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00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: The Filipidos to.

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00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: This day will claim he had no idea he was

544
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Speaker 2: out handing out bibles. I have a hard time believe

545
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 2: in that. But again, this is majoring on the miner.

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00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: Whatever happens there, the shooting starts. Now.

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Speaker 1: People are dying.

548
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 2: Now, Filipinos are attacking Americans, and Americans are attacking Filipinos.

549
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: But for the purpose of our treaty. All that American

550
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 2: politicians know is, hey, we were just arguing back and

551
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 2: forth about what to do with these Filipinos. Now that

552
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: American troops are dead. Now that place is ours, we

553
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 2: have no choice. We were at the Treaty of Paris.

554
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Speaker 1: We were dealing with it. It was called the Treaty.

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00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: Of Paris, and we were settling this whole thing and

556
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: American troops, our guys get word, American troops are dying.

557
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: It sealed the deal for the Philippines. We told the Spanish,

558
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 2: we actually bought it from them. We didn't just take

559
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: it either, we could have, we actually bought it from

560
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: We told the Spanish, we said, hey, we want the Philippines.

561
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 2: We just give you some money for it too. And

562
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: the Spanish, who were off way done with the place, said, yep,

563
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: it's all yours. Treaty at Paris is signed Spanish. American

564
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: war is over, and now America is in the Philippines.

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00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 2: And now momentum is just one of those things. As

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00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: we've talked about many times before, it's hard to quantify,

567
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: it's hard to explain, but it's obvious when you see it. Now,

568
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: all the momentum is going towards violence. They are upset,

569
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: and they are understandably upset. We are upset. We are

570
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: understandably upset, and the fighting begins. Now, this is something

571
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: if you're an American listening to the sound of my voice,

572
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: you should feel proud of this aspect, even if you

573
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 2: don't like this American history story. We're really good at fighting,

574
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 2: and we have been since our inception. Americans are good soldiers.

575
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: We are good. We're just good with it. Why because

576
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 2: we love guns. Our love of guns and our affinity

577
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: for guns is in grained in US. The Second Amendment

578
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 2: was put over two hundred years ago. We have always

579
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: loved guns, and when you have a culture of people

580
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 2: who love guns, then you're naturally going to be better

581
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 2: at fighting with guns. Plus, we were more organized, better trained,

582
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: better equipment, more ammunition. When the fighting begins between us

583
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 2: and Emilio Aginaldo and the Philippine rebels, we are beating

584
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 2: the living crap out of them. When they try to

585
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: square off against us. You know, these kind of large

586
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 2: pitch battle type things. You're just and this is a

587
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 2: very common tale throughout American history. You square off against Americans,

588
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: you better be ready to rumble. Even if you know Vietnam.

589
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 2: Vietnam didn't end well for us. We hardly ever lost

590
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 2: a battle in Vietnam, when whenever there was a battle,

591
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 2: we beat the crap out of everybody.

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Speaker 1: You don't want it. You want to trade gun, you

593
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: want trade bullets.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to do it with Americans. Okay, so

595
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: we start beating the Filipinos were running into a couple

596
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: different issues though. One, the heat is a huge problem. Again,

597
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: it's the tropics. Two, America was not at all totally

598
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: unified behind this war. It wasn't just the politicians. There

599
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: were a lot of Americans who were very uncomfortable watching

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00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: an American army conquer a foreign land. For a lot

601
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 2: of Americans, it looked like we were becoming the people

602
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: we supposedly hated. Remember, we earned our country by rejecting,

603
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: by rebelling against the colonial power.

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00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: We didn't want to be that.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk a little bit about that more, and then

606
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: some dirty stuff in a moment. Before we get to that,

607
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: let's talk about your pain, the pain that nags at you,

608
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Speaker 2: that holds you back from doing the things you love.

609
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: What is the pain that holds you back from going

610
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: on that walk? From playing handball, from golfing. What is

611
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Speaker 2: the pain that makes you dread going to work? Ah, man,

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Speaker 2: I got to swing a hammer all day in my

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Speaker 2: elbow just kills me. Have you tried Relief Factor? All

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Speaker 2: I'm asking is that you try it. They sell three

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Speaker 2: weeks of it three week quick start kits for nineteen

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Speaker 2: dollars in ninety five cents. It's natural. Stop ignoring the pain,

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Speaker 2: stop masking it. Your body's already trying to fight that inflammation.

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