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Speaker 1: had a conversation yesterday in the group chat. I think

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Speaker 1: this is the other topic for today. Then Friday will

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Speaker 1: do sort of a regular episode with yaps of the

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Speaker 1: week before we get to the Sunday and the championship breakdown.

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Speaker 1: But we were talking yesterday in the group chat. John

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Speaker 1: brought up there's been some DJ Quick versus Doctor dre

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Speaker 1: discourse online, which like, on the one hand, I mean obviously,

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Speaker 1: and I think Tyler made that point quite eloquently in

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Speaker 1: the group chat, as I'm sure he will today. You're

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Speaker 1: not comparing anyone, certainly not out here to doctor dre

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Speaker 1: But John's point, which I agreed with, was DJ Quick's

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Speaker 1: one of those people that I think if you are

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Speaker 1: a fan, you can't really be reasonable about them. And

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Speaker 1: I thought that ended up turning into a bigger conversation.

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Speaker 1: But why don't you explain the Doctor Drever's DJ Quick discourse?

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Speaker 1: You were seeing, John, Well.

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Speaker 2: People were talking about who's better DJ Quick or Doctor

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Speaker 2: dre And I mean when we talk about numbers, I

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Speaker 2: mean I think I think what happened was somebody said

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Speaker 2: doctor DJ Quick is who people think doctor Dre is,

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Speaker 2: and DJ Quick said finally somebody has the balls to

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Speaker 2: say it. And so I don't know what's going on there.

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Speaker 2: I thought everything was smooth at this point. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: for me, I'm saying, like DJ Quick is so brilliant

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Speaker 2: to me that even though doctor Dre, if you look

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Speaker 2: at Stat's success, all that shit is by far the

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Speaker 2: better producer, like you know, the best social producer. I

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Speaker 2: can't say anybody's better than Quick, just like spiritually in

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Speaker 2: my body, I can't say anybody's better than Quick. And

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Speaker 2: there's just certain people where I'm just not going. I

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Speaker 2: just I'm not going to be reasonable about you feel

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Speaker 2: me and we got into like you know, KD, I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna be reasonable. I think I saw Katie twenty

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Speaker 2: seventeen with the Warriors, that player right there, it's hard

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Speaker 2: for me to really not think he's the best bucket

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Speaker 2: getter I've ever seen in my fucking life, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean. It's just Prince you feel me, like

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Speaker 2: Miles Davis, Tony Morrison, Like there's just people. I'm just

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Speaker 2: not going to be able to say anybody is better

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Speaker 2: than the me and just Quick as one of those people,

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Speaker 2: even though I look at the numbers and what Tyler

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Speaker 2: said made a talent sus for sure, go ahead, and I.

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Speaker 3: Agree a thousands with Tyler, you know right, Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: I'm a big Quick fan too. I think that I

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Speaker 3: think that that Quick is underappreciated and I feel, you know,

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Speaker 3: there's a part of me that that I do not

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Speaker 3: agree that he's a better producer of Indre. But if

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Speaker 3: this is what gets people to give him as flowers,

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Speaker 3: maybe turn some new people on to listen to him,

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Speaker 3: then I'm cool with this you know discussion. I think

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Speaker 3: that that Quick doesn't get respected enough for for his

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Speaker 3: role that he played in bringing West Coast Rap to promise.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he gets respected enough in these producer

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Speaker 3: rapper commos. I think he's an all time great and

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Speaker 3: that discussion as well. But I just think that with

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Speaker 3: no disrespect, I think he's firmly number two behind Doctor

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Speaker 3: Dre and and all these you know categories. I think

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Speaker 3: he's the number two best West Coast producer ever behind

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Speaker 3: Doctor Dre. And I say that because you know, of course,

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Speaker 3: you know Doctor Dre. You know, he was the guy

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Speaker 3: behind fifty cent and Snoop and eminem and did a

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Speaker 3: bunch of sales, but it's not necessarily sales with me.

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Speaker 3: It to me, what what what makes Doctor Dre so

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Speaker 3: great is that every time Doctor Dre put something out,

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Speaker 3: every time Doctor Dre locked the shift, the lance rap

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Speaker 3: shifted right like he was the engine behind gangst the Rap,

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Speaker 3: being the producer and co front man with Eazy and

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Speaker 3: Cube of n w A. He you know, pioneered g

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Speaker 3: Funk with with the Chronic that that changed the game,

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Speaker 3: brought in Snoop, you know what I mean, Like he

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Speaker 3: had uh you know the Chronic and Doggie style. Those

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Speaker 3: dropped in in a year span, and he produced just

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Speaker 3: every beat on that just about like that's just bro like,

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Speaker 3: like what's touching that? And then of course you know

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Speaker 3: when he came out with Chronic two thousand and one,

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Speaker 3: like he shifted the whole sound of what California West

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Speaker 3: Coast production sounded like right like before where g Funk

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Speaker 3: leaned on like you know, the high pinched sense, he

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Speaker 3: shifted it on two thousand and one where it was

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Speaker 3: where production is more piano driven out, and those are

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Speaker 3: still staples in West Coast production to this day. Right,

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Speaker 3: if you hear a beat and you think, man, that

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Speaker 3: beat sounds West Coast as hell, what you're really saying

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Speaker 3: is this beat sounds a whole lot like Doctor Dre