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Speaker 1: All right, guys, before we get started, a big thank

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Speaker 1: into a week six edition of The Final Drive. Chargers

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Speaker 1: lose thirty four to six in Baltimore, joined by Haley

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Speaker 1: Elwood and simply put, Haley, this just was not the

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Speaker 1: Chargers day in all three phases. It really wasn't. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like you said, in all three phases. Every single person

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Speaker 1: to Kaiser White to Derwin, they all said, look, we

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Speaker 1: got out played and outcoached today. It really felt like

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Speaker 1: I mean, and it was. It was one of those

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Speaker 1: games where I don't want to say the Chargers weren't

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Speaker 1: really in it, but they weren't. You know. They just

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Speaker 1: they couldn't really get something done on defense. Offensively, it

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Speaker 1: was not what we were used to seeing with this

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Speaker 1: They didn't score since after the second quarter. And it

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Speaker 1: was a tough one, but a tough one that that

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Speaker 1: leaves you four and two. You know, you're four and

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Speaker 1: two as you entered the buy. And if they're positives

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Speaker 1: to take away from it, it's that your two games

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Speaker 1: above five hundred, that's right. And I think we're just

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Speaker 1: we're unaccustomed to seeing this version of the Chargers not

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Speaker 1: being a game. Even in their loss to Dallas, they

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Speaker 1: were in that and some people think they should have

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Speaker 1: won that game. So this one just from the jump,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Lamar Jackson has been playing incredible and he

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Speaker 1: was just he was comfortable all day long. In terms

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Speaker 1: anything going offensively. And you know, last week, Hayley, we're

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Speaker 1: and you know, the offense responded every single drive. They

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Speaker 1: responded when the defense was down, they started slow out

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Speaker 1: of the gate. It's just it's really tough to recover

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Speaker 1: when one phase of the ball just isn't clicking. All

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Speaker 1: three phases weren't clicking early on throughout the entire game. Yep.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Staley said, the Ravens beat us in all three phases.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I was kind of reflecting back on

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Speaker 1: my conversation that I had with NFL Networks the d

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Speaker 1: Martindale Wink Martindale from the Ravens, their defensive coordinator. He

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Speaker 1: likes to throw a lot at you and a lot

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Speaker 1: of different looks. And that was one thing that Justin

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Speaker 1: Herbert said after the game that they saw a lot

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Speaker 1: the learning experiences. You take a game like this and

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Speaker 1: But I thought that that was really interesting because she

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Speaker 1: had previewed that they liked to kind of throw a

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Speaker 1: disguising things of that sort. But I thought Herbert's line

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Speaker 1: after the game was really interesting in the fact that

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Speaker 1: he said, like I mentioned earlier, it's a learning experience,

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Speaker 1: and you take a game like this, you kind of

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Speaker 1: I think that's what you have to do if you're

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. You don't get too high and too low

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Speaker 1: after each loss. And this one feels bad in the

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Speaker 1: The Ravens only get six points off those fourth down

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Speaker 1: used to seeing Justin Herbert have trouble twenty two of

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Speaker 1: I think Hailey needs to change. Coming into that Patriots

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Speaker 1: also not used to scene with this Chargers team. Three

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Speaker 1: that was a huge difference in terms of just how

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Speaker 1: of looking back in my notes, specifically the end of

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Speaker 1: a halftime, but yeah, there were things that you just

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Speaker 1: But even that passing element, that dimension couldn't it wasn't

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Speaker 1: Chargers receivers five for five for fifty, but again, those

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Speaker 1: fans on Twitter after this game express those same sentiments

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Speaker 1: I mean Baltimore drives all the way down the field

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, there's so many guys on defense. This

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Speaker 1: You are going to get guys back. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: said earlier last week. Yeah, like when you know of course,

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Speaker 1: the buys coming at a good time because you want

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Speaker 1: eleven games still left to be played in a row

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Speaker 1: after this. But look at the specifics, right, look at

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Speaker 1: the specifics of where this buy is hitting this team,

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Speaker 1: And we just touched on it having, you know, guys

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Speaker 1: for them to get healthy when we come back. We

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Speaker 1: do know that obviously Justin and Kenneth I believe will

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Speaker 1: Drew Trank will again he gets that kind of extra

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Speaker 1: this game. But I think because of that and those

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Speaker 1: at a really really good time. Nona Zatterly, in this

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Speaker 1: time either you mentioned some of the numbers offensive league Keenan,

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