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Speaker 1: The tush push has survived, and the Eagles and Jalen

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Speaker 2: And my overall take on this has been kind of indifferent,

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Speaker 2: who did this last week, I twenty one, twenty two,

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Speaker 2: it when like a Green, a new, young, kind of

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Speaker 2: like this. Ben, It's come to your attention. You live

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Speaker 2: It's come to your attention? Do you think that story

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Speaker 2: I think if you're a Titans fan, you gotta be

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Speaker 2: pretty excited. Hope is a powerful thing, man. Belief is

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Speaker 2: like should uh some of these fake NBA trades, and

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Speaker 2: it's probably gonna go well, and I more than likely

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Speaker 2: That is not how Ashton Genty is as a as

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Speaker 2: Okay, mail back time at John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff

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Speaker 2: answered on the show. Let's start with Will had a

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Speaker 2: couple of cocktails the other night and would like to

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Speaker 2: It happened to us all been there, buddy. If you're

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Speaker 2: in the dogshit franchise category and need to turn things around,

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Speaker 2: how do you balance taking swings at quarterback with building

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Speaker 2: the team if you truly believe the team is a

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Speaker 2: quarterback away? Can you blame the Falcons Jets Broncos two

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Speaker 2: years ago for betting on one player that flips your

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Speaker 2: franchise around. Being in a rebuilding purgatory seems worse, obviously,

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Speaker 2: paying Kirk ninety million guaranteed is reaching. But if you

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Speaker 2: roll out another quarterback for a whole season, you will

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Speaker 2: lose fans and remain irrelevant. We don't have diehard fans

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Speaker 2: like other franchises. The Falcons have had one top five

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Speaker 2: draft positions since twenty nineteen two thousand and nine, Matt

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Speaker 2: Ryan third overall and eight, So they can't just bet

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Speaker 2: on getting their franchise quarterback from the draft. What would

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Speaker 2: you do differently, I'm not acting like finding your franchise

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Speaker 2: quarterback is easy. It's not like you said you typically

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Speaker 2: even if you draft high, we know how often you miss.

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Speaker 2: I supported what the Denver Broncos did when they traded

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Speaker 2: for Russell Wilson blew up in their face. You know,

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Speaker 2: when they traded for Aaron Rodgers. He was much older

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Speaker 2: than Russell, so there was risk involved. But like, I

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Speaker 2: totally understood those two trades. But drafting a guy high,

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Speaker 2: Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, justin Field doesn't guarantee anything. So

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Speaker 2: I hear you. I'm not talking about the whole philosophy

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Speaker 2: of like now we can argue like are we playing

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Speaker 2: Monday Morning Quarterback? About Kyle Pitts probably little, So I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna argue about that draft pick in general, but

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Speaker 2: just the Kirk Cousins move. He was thirty six years

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Speaker 2: old coming off of torn Achilles, and he's an awful athlete,

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Speaker 2: so there was a ton of risk involved there. Now

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Speaker 2: ultimately says Arthur Blank's money. But I think on that

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Speaker 2: specific move where I have an issue with it is

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Speaker 2: if you loved Michael Pennix, which clearly they did, the

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Speaker 2: GM and his coach, he should have had those guys

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Speaker 2: be all over comparing Michael Pennix knowing they're drafting eighth.

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Speaker 2: You know when did Raheem get the job in January?

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Speaker 2: So once agains the offensive coordinator, that should have been

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Speaker 2: their main priority of comparing Pennix to Cousins in I

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Speaker 2: don't know all of February at least mid to late

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Speaker 2: February and early March before you made that decision, So

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Speaker 2: to me, it felt very like a haphazard like they're

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Speaker 2: just kind of yeah, like no direction. So I that's

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Speaker 2: my issue with that individual move. Big picture, I hear

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Speaker 2: what you're saying. I don't disagree that it's difficult, but

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Speaker 2: they had the eighth overall pick and then they fell

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Speaker 2: in love with Michael Pennix. But they had just given

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Speaker 2: all this money when they needed a bunch of help

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Speaker 2: on defense, and they had ninety million dollars to give,

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Speaker 2: you could have got a couple guys for like forty

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Speaker 2: five million dollars each. That's my issue there with that

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Speaker 2: specific thing. Now, over the course, there's probably other situation,

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Speaker 2: like individual situations, but I'm I'm not even talking about that.

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Speaker 2: My issue with Desmond Ridder is didn't they draft them

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Speaker 2: in the third round. Let me just I just want

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Speaker 2: to get my facts straight here. Desmond Ridder was drafted

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Speaker 2: did in the third round, seventy fourth pick, So that's

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Speaker 2: a pretty good pick. If you watched him in that

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Speaker 2: Bowl game. I forget who they played, but they they Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they went thirteen to zero and they played Oh yeah

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Speaker 2: they played Alabama. I get Alabama's a better team, but

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Speaker 2: it was like watching like what are we doing here?

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Speaker 2: This is not He felt completely overwhelmed physically just to

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Speaker 2: make basic throws. I remember watching that because Cincinnati Sauce

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Speaker 2: Gardner that team was stacked running back. Forget what team

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Speaker 2: he's on, but he's a good player. I mean, they

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Speaker 2: got they had a bunch of NFL dudes and they

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Speaker 2: ran the table with Fickle. They were legit. And then

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Speaker 2: I remember thinking like, oh, thatsman, Rare is good because

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Speaker 2: he had had a big season. He had thirty and

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Speaker 2: eight sixty five percent, like he was really good that year.

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Speaker 2: But I remember watching that Alabama game going, oh, man,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know about this, and they

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Speaker 2: still drafted him the third round. Ever since the playoffs

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00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: have been restructured to have seven teams from each conference,

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Speaker 2: there has always been one division with three playoff teams

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Speaker 2: In this upcoming season, do you believe this trend will

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Speaker 2: continue where three teams from the same division make it

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Speaker 2: to the playoffs. Below is a list of the divisions

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Speaker 2: who have had three playoff teams in the past five years.

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Speaker 2: Twenty one NFC West, twenty two NFC East, twenty three

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Speaker 2: AFC North. Last year, the AFC West and the NFC North. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would think the AFC West has a pretty good chance. Again,

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Speaker 2: I would you know, you're basically a lock to have

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Speaker 2: two teams. Who's the biggest lock to have two teams?

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Speaker 2: You would say the NFC East with the Eagles in Washington,

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00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: feel like a lock. The AFC West between the Chiefs,

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00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: Chargers and Broncos feel like a lock. The AFC North

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00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: feels like a lock right between some rotation. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the Ravens are in, the Steelers make it a lot,

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Speaker 2: and the Bengals hard for them to mit. You could

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Speaker 2: say the North, it just seems like, yeah, it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Curious what type of season it would take from Hunter

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Speaker 2: for Gladstone and the Jags to look like geniuses. Well,

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Speaker 2: in fairness to Gladstone and Travis Hunter, you draft a

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Speaker 2: guy and you trade a future first round pick to

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Speaker 2: move up from five to two. You don't determine your career,

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Speaker 2: as I almost said a freshman as a rookie, like

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Speaker 2: he could have fifty catches and make some plays on defense.

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00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: People like oh solid, Like you don't get to make

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Speaker 2: a determination after one year, like Jalen Carter is a

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00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 2: lot more interesting after a second year than you first

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Speaker 2: year is interesting player. But I mean you watch them

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Speaker 2: after last year, so it's you can give them all

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Speaker 2: the time. You get a couple of years. You know

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Speaker 2: you now he could make him look like a genius

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Speaker 2: is immediately if he dominates, I mean if he catches

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Speaker 2: ten touchdowns and has a bunch of interceptions like he's

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Speaker 2: they're gonna look like geniuses and they win ten games

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Speaker 2: and make the playoffs and win the division. Yeah, I'll

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Speaker 2: look at a genius. But if it doesn't go perfectly,

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Speaker 2: you can't just basically, in sharpie say it was the

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Speaker 2: worst move of all time. I started watching football every

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Speaker 2: week in nine when I started playing myself question, what

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Speaker 2: is the best roster or short lists of rosters you

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00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: ever saw that did not win a Super Bowl? For me,

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00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: it was the forty nine ers of eleven through thirteen.

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00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 2: They just had the misfortune of running into Eli a

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Speaker 2: loaded raven squad in the Seahawks lob. It's a good question.

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00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: I think the best team I saw, and I was

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00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: going to a lot of games from like twenty ten.

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Speaker 2: The twenty seventeen eighteen range Niners team was pretty good,

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00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: but like you know, Alex had some flaws. In Kaepernick

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Speaker 2: while very explosive, I mean, in his prime an elite

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Speaker 2: runner and great you know, his fastball, pushing balls down

581
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: the field, but he didn't have great touch. So like

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Speaker 2: their quarterback play relative to some of these other teams

583
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: like that, that was a huge differential aiding factor is

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00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: like Russell was just a better player. Now, this team

585
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: won a super Bowl, But I think the best team

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00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: I saw was top to bottom was the Broncos with

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Speaker 2: Peyton Manning. Now, the team that won it with Peyton

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00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: Manning in whatever year that was sixteen, Peyton was a

589
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: shell of himself. But those first three years, i mean offensively,

590
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 2: defensively they were. It was stupid how good they were.

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00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I don't see how many teams

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Speaker 2: during that era it didn't win. There were a couple

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00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: of Steeler teams they were pretty good. I mean the

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00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: heyday of Antonio Brown. You know, the Patriots own them,

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00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: but they played the Patriots. You know, the Steelers beat

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00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: the Chiefs I think in the second round in like sixteen.

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00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: Then they played the Patriots and Leveon injured is growing,

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00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: so it just wasn't really a game. But that those

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00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: teams were pretty good. I'm a lifelong Seahawks fan, and

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Speaker 2: while I have a ton of faith in Schneider, I

601
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 2: am confused on our quarterback round. I'm curious to hear

602
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: your take on what you think the plan is for

603
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: Milroe and Darnold, because I'm not sure Also, do you

604
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: think Schneider is a top five GM in the league

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Speaker 2: right now? If so, where in the top five, And

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Speaker 2: do you like the direction of the Seahawks are moving.

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Speaker 2: I think Jalen Milroe to them was like, I'm invested

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Speaker 2: in a couple of these right now. The stock let's

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Speaker 2: just I'm not going to give the exact stock, but

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Speaker 2: I'm down. I'm down, but this was a play I

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Speaker 2: continue to put my if this thing hits, like, I'm

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Speaker 2: betting on it being like a twenty exer, but there's

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Speaker 2: a chance that I just lose I mean a substantial

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Speaker 2: amount of money. I'm not rich enough to where it's

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Speaker 2: like I lose, you know, fifty grand just goes away.

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00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: I'd be I'd be I'd be pissed. But it's a

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Speaker 2: risk I feel value in taking right And I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm actually closer to six figures in this thing. But

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Speaker 2: it's just it's one of these things that could maybe

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Speaker 2: change the life of my future children and or maybe

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Speaker 2: it just goes belly up. And I think that's what

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Speaker 2: Jalen Milroe is to the Seahawks, that it's like, if

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Speaker 2: it works best case scenario, we have a dynamic some

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Speaker 2: version of Lamar Jackson. I mean, that's that's and if

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Speaker 2: it doesn't like whatever, we gave a third rounder, but

626
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Speaker 2: like it could change our franchise. And Sam Donald, like

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Speaker 2: Jalen Milroe can't start Week one. Our plan is to

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Speaker 2: win ten games and we get Sam Donald for' Bern

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Speaker 2: Gino smith who ARE oc knows and it gets us.

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Speaker 2: Going so Drafting Jalen milroe really doesn't have that much

631
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Speaker 2: to do With Sam donald Because Jalen milroe can't start

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Speaker 2: right now And Sam donald can and you're trying to

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Speaker 2: make the. Playoffs and if next Year Jalen milroe takes

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Speaker 2: a huge, step maybe beats him out and you can

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Speaker 2: Trade Sam. Donald BUT i think it was a calculated. Risk,

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Speaker 2: listen do you ever just want to give away third round?

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Speaker 2: Picks of course. Not they Got Russell wilson once upon

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Speaker 2: a time in the third. Round but, like if this thing,

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Speaker 2: LIKE i kind of like the rush of something like

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Speaker 2: this could be, big or this could blow up in my,

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Speaker 2: face you, know and that's what taking a guy Like Jalen. Milroe,

645
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Speaker 2: Now Anthony richson's a better example of like risking everything

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Speaker 2: you got at. Pick it's way, less like doesn't do

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Speaker 2: much if you, lose like a third round, pick he busts.

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00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: Whatever but that was the mindset behind. There AND i

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Speaker 2: think if all gms were available from scratch and there

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Speaker 2: was a, DRAFT i Think John schneider would go in

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Speaker 2: the top. Five, YES i think he's a. Stud fan

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00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 2: of the. Show i'm super excited for the flag Football

653
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: olympics team in twenty twenty. Eight curious to hear who

654
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: you would put on that. Roster the game isn't, Contact

655
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: so my thought Is Josh allen or some of these

656
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: bigger bodied positional guys would have less impact in a

657
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: flag football. SETTING i Have Lamar, Jackson Saquon, Barkley Justin,

658
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: Jefferson Jamar, Chase ceedee Lamp, Brock, Bauers George. Kittle let's

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00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 2: Get brady to show up at forty seven forty eight

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00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: and play on this. TEAM i think he would do. It,

661
00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: UH i don't know If, SAQUON i don't. KNOW i

662
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 2: don't really know that rules like are you handing the

663
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: ball off in flag. FOOTBALL i, LISTEN i could be,

664
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Speaker 2: stupid but are? YOU i don't think you. Are to.

665
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: Me Like Jamiir, Gibbs saquan's hands like the one downfall Of,

666
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: saquon and downfall is the wrong way to describe. It

667
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 2: the ONE i would say somewhat of a liability for

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Speaker 2: just an all around elite. Players i'd Say saquon's hands are.

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Speaker 2: Average they're not, bad but they're Not marshall falk OR

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Speaker 2: lt Or christian. McCaffrey i would Go gibbs there BECAUSE

671
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Speaker 2: i think you're throwing a lot of like wheel. Routes

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00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: SO i don't Think saquon would be the. GUY i,

673
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 2: mean you could pick a million. Receivers there is no

674
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 2: receiver ON usa flag football who is better THAN i

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00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 2: mean one HUNDRED nfl wide. Receivers so obviously you Go,

676
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: Jefferson Chase, lamb LIKE i think you could go like

677
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 2: ran them, Dudes like you could take a guy from The.

678
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: Jags you could take a guy from The you take

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00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: whoever you want. It jacks Have Brian, thomas like you

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00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: could take. Whoever they would. DOMINATE i Think Kyler murray

681
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: would be the greatest flag football. Player. EVER i mean,

682
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 2: ever because he's got a stronger arm Than. LAMAR i

683
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: just feel Like Kyler. MURRAY i don't know WHEN i

684
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: think flag football even more Than, lamar And lamar is

685
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: like one of the greatest athletes of all. TIME i

686
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Speaker 2: feel Like kyler'd be my number one. Pick kind of

687
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: a wild, idea but what if teams put a power

688
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 2: back at quarterback when they ran the toush. Push teams

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00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 2: know it's, coming and The eagles do it and still

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00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: can't stop. IT i understand that running backs are a

691
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: bit smaller in terms of, height that might not, work

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00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: but someone Like Derrick henry under center would be. Unstoppable

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00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: he's an. Anomaly but even if you had a powerback

694
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Speaker 2: who's five to ten or, so like a pre Injury Nick,

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Speaker 2: CHUBB i think you can stay. Low i'm sure they're

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Speaker 2: factors like taking snaps under center that could be. RISKY

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Speaker 2: i think that's a big. Thing you, know we talk

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Speaker 2: center quarterback exchange is like the most fundamental part of just.

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Speaker 2: OFFENSE i, mean the offense cannot operate if you can't

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00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 2: get lined up and the ball. SNAPPED i do think

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Speaker 2: snapping the, ball those guys make it look a little

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Speaker 2: easier than like IF i just put my running back

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Speaker 2: down there and IF i, fumble if it's a tie. Game,

705
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: right let's say it's twenty to twenty and you do

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Speaker 2: what you're, doing And COACH x rolls out his running.

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Speaker 2: Back twenty to twenty five minutes, left we're at the

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Speaker 2: fifty yard, line it's fourth and. One i'm, Like i'm not.

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Speaker 2: Punning i'm playing to win the game right. NOW i

710
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Speaker 2: roll up my running back to Do Jalen hurts and

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Speaker 2: the center quarterback, exchange it fumbles and their defensive tackle

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Speaker 2: falls on, it and they drive and win the. Game

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Speaker 2: your coach would get. Destroyed SO i hear what you're.

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Speaker 2: Saying it is that exchange is not as easy AS

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Speaker 2: i think the way we just act like it. Is

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Speaker 2: anyone that's ever been to a college, practice even a

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Speaker 2: high level high school, practice like you spend time just

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Speaker 2: working on that exchange while the running back's doing other.

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Speaker 2: Stuff so it's you only get so much time on

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Speaker 2: the practice.

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Speaker 2: is give me the date week. ONE i, mean five

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Speaker 2: ever and the best coach in THE. Nfl cautiously, optimistic

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Speaker 2: fucking throw cautiously in the. Trash you are optimistic until

741
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Speaker 2: told otherwise every single season moving forward like you have

742
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Speaker 2: been for the last several Flaws like who's gonna play left.

743
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Speaker 2: Guard who's gonna be our slot? Receiver who gives a?

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Speaker 2: Shit we Got, patty we Got, spags and we Got.

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00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: Andy we're gonna be. Okay feels like everyone is expecting

746
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: us to go in a ten year drought Like brady.

747
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: Did do you see that From? Mahomes, also what are

748
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Speaker 2: you thinking about the on line? EDITIONS i got mixed.

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Speaker 2: Feelings i'm hoping we can get more explosive on. Offense

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00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 2: you guys are gonna be. Fine you guys are gonna be.

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Speaker 2: Fine you won fifteen games last, year fifteen beat The

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Speaker 2: bills in THE Anc championship, game who had just beat The.

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Speaker 2: Ravens you beat The ravens the year. Before you guys

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Speaker 2: are gonna be. Fine i'll promise. YOU i think it's

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Speaker 2: had in the mid two thousands With donovan. McNabb you,

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00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 2: know Until Terrell owens got, there they did not have

758
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: a bunch of high named wide. Receivers they were a great,

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00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: defense they had good running, backs and they had a

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Speaker 2: good offensive. Line, obviously your offensive line needs to be.

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00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: Better but what do you Think Andy reid is at his?

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Speaker 2: Core he's an offensive lineman gonna be. FINE i would

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00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: not bet against The. Chiefs wanted to get your thoughts

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Speaker 2: on the T wolves In thunder. GAME i understand That

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Speaker 2: sga is a, superstar AND i won't take that away

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Speaker 2: from but even a non basketball player or casual basketball

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00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 2: viewer can see that a lot of these calls for

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Speaker 2: him were. Absurd in my, opinion it's looking worse Than

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Speaker 2: harden was. Getting what are your, Thoughts, well your boy

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Speaker 2: might have Made i'd say the biggest Bet i've made

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. FIVE i had forty five hundred dollars

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Speaker 2: in my account because of THE Pga. Championship now that

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Speaker 2: wasn't technically. Winnings it was just like getting my money,

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Speaker 2: back and, SOME i mean some of it was previous,

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Speaker 2: winnings AND i basically just rolled that over with the

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Speaker 2: nextra five hundred dollars and put five g's on The

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Speaker 2: thunder or excuse, me on the T wolves to win

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Speaker 2: because they were plus two seventy to win the. Series

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00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: obviously The thunder are, good but my overall take is

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Speaker 2: sixty eight wins is the Greatest fugazi number in the

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00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 2: history of professional. Sports and that's not a shot at The,

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Speaker 2: thunder it's a shot at the people they. PLAYED a

783
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: third of the league tanked all season. Long another five

784
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Speaker 2: teams you can add to that list after Like, christmas

785
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 2: and then even the good teams take ten to twenty

786
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Speaker 2: games off a. Year so it's, like if you try really,

787
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 2: HARD i saw this when The warriors won twenty three

788
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Speaker 2: OR i won seventy three in two thousand and, sixty, fifteen,

789
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Speaker 2: sixteen whatever year that was the year Before durant got.

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Speaker 2: THERE a huge part of their success they tried every.

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Speaker 2: Night and in the, league if you are, young hungry

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Speaker 2: and try every night and you're, talented you're gonna win

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Speaker 2: at minimum. Sixty and so it's, like listen to The thunder are,

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00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: good but after watching them against The, nuggets ain't the

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Speaker 2: fucking Fifteen. WARRIORS i didn't think so plus two, Seventy i'm,

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Speaker 2: Like i'm hammermering The, Wolves LIKE i Get, shay he's

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00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: gonna win THE, mvp but, like why Couldn't ant be

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00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: the best player in the. Series and then you're watching

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00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 2: last night and, Listen shay's getting some. Calls my bigger,

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00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: issue obviously the. REFEREES i hate the hardened style of baiting.

801
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: FOULS i despise that type. Basketball my bigger issue though

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00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 2: in the, game was you Have Anthony, edwards who is

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00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: like a Young Kobe Bryant Michael jordan level. Athlete he

804
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 2: should be attacking their throats every single, Play LIKE i.

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00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: Get the three pointers a big part of. Basketball and,

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00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: listen The warriors are my favorite team of all. Time

807
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: that stretch of like ten years Was Steph clay And

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00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 2: draymond and the couple years Would, drant but Mainly Steph

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00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: clay And draymond and Specifically Stephan clay the way they.

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00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 2: Played So i'm pro three, pointers but, like after a,

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00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: while if you're not hitting three, pointers like try something.

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00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: Else and they just kept gunning three. Pointers it was.

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00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: Crazy it's like you have AND i get he kind

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Speaker 2: of rolled his, ankle but do you have the best

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00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 2: athlete on the. FLOOR i ALREADY i don't regret my,

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00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 2: bet BUT i hate it WHEN i look At DraftKings

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00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 2: and it was plus two seventy to win the series

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00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: and now it's like plus forty five. Hundred it's. Shit

819
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 2: i'm still feeling. Good we just got to Win game,

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00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: Two so, attack, attack, Attack and, again in what World

821
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: i've defended THE nfl Against Patrick mahomes on. This you

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00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 2: should not be able to fake go out of bounce

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00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 2: like that's. Horseshit you should be flagged and he's not.

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Speaker 2: Alone other quarterbacks have done. That if you do the

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00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: fake and keep on, going you get a fifteen yard.

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Speaker 2: Penalty the baiting of, fowls and there's a difference of

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Speaker 2: like being smart about a bait and doing some of the.

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Speaker 2: STUFF i, Mean harden was it was ridiculous after a,

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Speaker 2: while but the referees always turned on him in the

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00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: playoffs and he'd melt like you, know ice on An

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Speaker 2: arizona summer. DAY i JUST i hate watching that style of.

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00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: Basketball BUT i hate WHAT i hate even more is

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00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: AND i haven't bet on THE nba all season, long

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00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 2: beside actually One warriors game in the, playoffs which part

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00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: of the REASON i had the money in my opera

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Speaker 2: was AGAINST i think The, rockets Like game one or.

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00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 2: Two BUT i JUST i hate watching a team shoot

838
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: pointer after three pointer after three, pointer and it's like, clank, clank.

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Speaker 2: Clank it's, LIKE i don't, know, Guys let's just get

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00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 2: a different fucking shot and make a. Basket their lead

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00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 2: is growing and growing as you keep hitting the. Rim

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00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: huge fan of The. RAVENS i recently had a debate

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00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 2: with some friends while having a few. Beers it takes

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Speaker 2: about three or four beers to get us going into

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00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: AN nfl. DISCUSSION i feel you, there, buddy gotta love.

846
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: It my question for you today is do you Think

847
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: Lamar jackson can be considered a top ten quarterback of

848
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 2: all time if he wins at least One Super bowl

849
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 2: and one MORE. Mvp aside from him his improved throwing

850
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 2: ability over the, years and he's the best rushing quarterback,

851
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: EVER i think he would make a valid argument talent.

852
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 2: WISE i can't put too many guys over. HIM i

853
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 2: can't admit he's yet to get over the playoff. Hunt

854
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 2: But peyton was the same way and didn't win one

855
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 2: until he was. Thirty by the, way one of my

856
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 2: friends bet me one thousand dollars That lamar will never

857
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: win The Super, bowl not contingent on the fact that

858
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 2: he can Ring chase later in his. Career if he

859
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: doesn't win one In, BALTIMORE i think he has three

860
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: to five. Years what he plays for one of the

861
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 2: best organizations in the, league so his team's always going

862
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: to be, good and it just like going into this,

863
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: SEASON i think they're clearly one of the best teams

864
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: in the, league and he's obviously a huge part of.

865
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 2: That and when the season, STARTS i, mean they're on

866
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 2: the short list of four or five teams that can

867
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: do you feel confident going The ravens can win The Super.

868
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 2: Bowl but he's got to. Play you, Know he's now

869
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 2: had back to back years of just an atrocious interception

870
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 2: in the. Playoffs and one of the things with playoff

871
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: football is, like we don't need the sexy stuff all the,

872
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: time and he gets he does that during the regular.

873
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: SEASON i, MEAN i would say one of the best

874
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 2: Players i've ever seen him make was one of the

875
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: games against The bengals where he ran back and, forth

876
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: did like a three to sixty and ended up throwing a.

877
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 2: Touchdown it's one of the greatest plays he's ever. MADE i,

878
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 2: mean his highlight plays in the regular. SEASON i bet

879
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 2: when his career, ends you could put his highlight plays

880
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: up there with anyone in the history. League the playoffs

881
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 2: is more about like playing, smart not turning the ball

882
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 2: over and getting first, downs AND i think that's what

883
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 2: they gotta. Do play smart, football no. Turnovers you could

884
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 2: argue the fumble against The bills where he like tripped

885
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 2: and he put the ball down and it kind of

886
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: hit freakish. Play the interceptions cannot, happen not in those,

887
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 2: games because you're going to be in a game that

888
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 2: it's going to be determined by probably less than a.

889
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: Touchdown so IF i give you an interception and that

890
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 2: turns into three or worst case scenario, seven that could

891
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 2: be a ten to fourteen point. Swing SO i Believe

892
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 2: Lamar jackson is good enough to win A Super. BOWL

893
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: i would not have said that three or four years.

894
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: Ago but he has to, translate you, know part of

895
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 2: LIKE i think we use the basketball, analogy like why

896
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 2: Does James harden have so much problems the? Playoffs it's

897
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 2: because all the shit he's doing in the regular, season

898
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 2: like no one. Cares it's about playing smart basketball in

899
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: a playoff, series especially in a game, five six and.

900
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 2: Seven you, know like we don't need fifty points at.

901
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 2: Anybody we see like twenty four in playing under control

902
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: and playing smart and sometimes like he kind of gets

903
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 2: lost in no man's land and, LISTEN i Think Lamar

904
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 2: jackson's way better Than James harden at their individual. Sports

905
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 2: BUT i do think he's got to take Like Patrick

906
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 2: mahomes is really good at, that just playing like a smart.

907
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 2: Game we're just not gonna turn the ball. Over we're

908
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: not evenna score that many. Points But i'm gonna play

909
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 2: at a high level intelligence Like i'm gonna use The

910
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 2: i'm not gonna let you beat. Me i'm A bronco.

911
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 2: Fan we had a Green Law hufunga and the rookie From.

912
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 2: Texas on. Offense we had an absolute weapon In, harvey

913
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: who has A we had an absolute weapon In. Harvey

914
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 2: he was a sneaky great signing In. Ingram we were

915
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: plus forty thousand to win The Super. Bowl so, basically

916
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 2: bete hundred win four. Thousand does that not seem like

917
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 2: a great value as a? Flyer bet the ceiling for

918
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 2: this defense could be on par with the fifteen defense

919
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 2: seems a little high to. ME i saw that. DEFENSE i,

920
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 2: mean they had Von miller in their. PRIME i Like,

921
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 2: benito but Von miller in his prime is one of

922
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: the greatest players in the history of the. League you

923
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: had where you Had, wolf you Had Malik, jackson you

924
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 2: had three elite corners in Teleeb Chris harrison the slot

925
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 2: and Young roby might not have been a, leap But

926
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 2: roby was pretty. Good you could hit back, then so

927
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: you HAD Tj. Ward who would you? Know, absolutely mollywop

928
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 2: You Brandon marshall was a good. Linebacker you Had. Travathan

929
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 2: that defense is as good as Defense i've ever seen

930
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: life that In seattle and The harbot nine ers were pretty.

931
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 2: Good BUT i think those defense or. Faster. MAYBE i,

932
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 2: mean you guys are. GOOD i wouldn't need a lot

933
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 2: out of Bow. KNICKS i like bow, Knicks but DO

934
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 2: i close my eyes and see bow knicks win The

935
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 2: Super bowl in year? Two seems like pretty? Crazy But

936
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: i'm with you pretty good. Value you guys are gonna be.

937
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: GOOD i think the fifteen defense though it feels like

938
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 2: a pretty Big, again this sport was, different so maybe.

939
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 2: Right what are your thoughts on THE nfl team owners

940
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: allowing one player per team to play flag football in

941
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 2: the Upcoming. Olympics, also which players are you picking from

942
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 2: each team and why IF i own the? Team if

943
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 2: you own the, team think about the players are gonna

944
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: want for flag. Football they're not gonna want your right.

945
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 2: Guard they're gonna Want Lamar. Jackson they're gonna Want christian

946
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 2: McCaffrey or you know Aj, brown, right they're gonna Want Tyreek.

947
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 2: Hill they're gonna want the best offensive players in THE.

948
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: Nfl it's, like, WAIT i gave this guy one hundred

949
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: plus million dollars and he's going to go in a

950
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 2: situation against people THAT i have no clue who they.

951
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 2: Are that it's gonna be a big. Deal LIKE i

952
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: would not sign off on letting. THEM i would not

953
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 2: be comfortable doing. THAT i would. Not and it's one

954
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 2: thing in some of these, sports like one The, olympics you,

955
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 2: know For Michael phelps or a skier or whoever, swimmer

956
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 2: it's that's their Super. Bowl but in, football The Super

957
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 2: bowl is a Super, bowl you, Know, LIKE i would

958
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 2: not be comfortable with. That remember a, long long time,

959
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: AGO i forget his first, name but his last NAME

960
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 2: i think Was. EDWARDS i think this is late, nineties

961
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: might have been like ninety seven ninety, eight one of

962
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 2: the best young running backs in THE nfl played for The,

963
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 2: patriots and The Pro bowl used to have LIKE i

964
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: think it was, volleyball and and he came down funny

965
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 2: on the sand and his leg was, ruined his career was.

966
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: OVER i think they ended volleyball right then and. There

967
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 2: BUT i would struggle with, yeah just uh, yeah ceedee.

968
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 2: Lamb yeah take. Him he's gonna play in The olympics against, Uh,

969
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 2: China mexico And. India, yeah, no no, problem what no? Chance,

970
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 2: NOW i get IF i was the, Player i'd want

971
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: to do, That BUT i would really struggle as an,

972
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 2: owner as a, coach as A gm trusting this whole,

973
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: SITUATION i would not feel comfortable with. It. Again WOULD

974
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 2: i give let my fifth wide receiver? Go for? Sure

975
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 2: but it's, like, hey can we Use Sam. Laporta it's, like,

976
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: well this little dude from The dominican who thinks he's

977
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: Fucking ronnie lot over here takes out his knee and

978
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 2: all of a, Sudden Sam laporta's like there because of

979
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 2: the dude From spain wanted to get on the NFL's.

980
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 2: Radar no, THANKS i know you're more of AN nfl,

981
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 2: analyst less. Fan now as a, fan you, Know i'm

982
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 2: kind of a. HYBRID i would Say i've just lost

983
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: my true true emotional ups and, downs WHICH i still

984
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 2: get from. GAMBLING i don't quite get LIKE i still

985
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 2: LIKE i follow the forty Nine ers really, closely but

986
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 2: it's just it's not quite the. Same And i'm jealous

987
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 2: of some of you that like still have That like

988
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 2: What sometimes WHEN i hear Like Bill, simmons like how

989
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 2: does he how does he still have that deep in his,

990
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 2: Soul I'm i'm kind of. JEALOUS i WISH i did

991
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 2: LIKE i. WOULD i would sign up for a big

992
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 2: story that would benefit. Us here on the podcas asked

993
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 2: over something forty Nine ers every day of the week

994
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: and twice On. Sundays but as a, fan would you

995
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: prefer to root for a team that is always competitive

996
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 2: and in the, mix but has no True Super bowl

997
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 2: chance like The? Steelers or a team who has big

998
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 2: ups and downs over the, years but takes huge swings

999
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 2: and is a true contender during the up. Stretches Think, Rams,

1000
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 2: eagles et. Cetera as A steeler, fan being in the

1001
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 2: endless cycle of a good but not good enough has

1002
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: become sickening AND i just want the tanking season where

1003
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 2: they finally get a top. Pick, well using your, examples

1004
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 2: WOULD i rather be a fan of The rams and

1005
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 2: The eagles? Recently, yes than The? Steelers but IF i

1006
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 2: was a sixty year old guy being a fan of

1007
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 2: The steelers over the course of my life has been pretty.

1008
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 2: INCREDIBLE i think if we just use non, teams, like

1009
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 2: would you rather win A Super bowl one year and

1010
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 2: then miss the playoffs for the next five or would

1011
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 2: you rather Be Mike tomlin and The steelers and for

1012
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 2: the next six, years know the year gonna win nine

1013
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 2: or ten? Games for as great as it, sounds win

1014
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 2: That Super bowl is incredible watching a team win three

1015
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 2: or four, games because part of it is, Like, okay you.

1016
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 2: Suck there is no guarantee that you get out of.

1017
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 2: That google how many times like The jags have? DRAFTED

1018
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 2: I google how many times like The Arizona cardinals have? Drafted,

1019
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 2: REALLY i when you're a bad. Team The giants have

1020
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: been bad now for like fifteen. Years The jets haven't

1021
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 2: made the playoffs since twenty. Ten It's may twenty twenty.

1022
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:40,479
Speaker 2: Five SO i hear. You and if if you, could

1023
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 2: what you would sign up? For CAN i tank and

1024
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,479
Speaker 2: just get LIKE i don't, KNOW i don't even Need Patrick,

1025
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 2: mahomes but just a guy that's gonna be good and

1026
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 2: be my franchise? Quarterback you would sign up for? That

1027
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 2: every every day of the. Week, right it's also easy

1028
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 2: to be like and. Listen i'm a huge believer in.

1029
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: This you learn a lot in life when you. Fail

1030
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,959
Speaker 2: And i've Been i've been fired. TWICE i got fired

1031
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 2: twice by the TIME i was like thirty one years.

1032
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 2: Old so when that happens to, you it's very, jarring

1033
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 2: but it forces you in like a fight or flight.

1034
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 2: Mode And i've known, people not, me like my, peers

1035
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 2: but like my parents, peers guys that have gone. Bankrupt

1036
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 2: and you hear some of these. Stories you see it On,

1037
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 2: instagram LIKE i went bankrupt AND i battled back and

1038
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 2: Now i'm worth a five hundred million. DOLLARS i knew

1039
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 2: a couple of, people again not, personally but like through

1040
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 2: my parents that WENT bka in the nineties and their

1041
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 2: life never turned. Around AND i hear stories sometimes either

1042
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 2: through like mutual friends or my brother's kind of still

1043
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 2: in that world of like guys still talking about their

1044
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 2: heyday of like nineteen ninety. Six it's, like, bro you

1045
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,959
Speaker 2: lost everything in nineteen ninety. Eight this is a long.

1046
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 2: Time what have you been? Doing so it's it's easy

1047
00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 2: to go, like let's just, suck let's blow this bitch.

1048
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 2: Up there is no guarantee that you flip that thing.

1049
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 2: Around So i'm all For i'm not saying you're, spoiled

1050
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 2: because you're. Not AND i get the. Frustration to. Me the,

1051
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 2: MOVE i think the move is not like trying to

1052
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: tank because your your organization's not gonna do. That it

1053
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 2: is not gonna do, that WHICH i. Respect the move is,

1054
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 2: this AND i respect. This i'm not A tomlin. Hater

1055
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: guy's a fucking. STUT i do think a breakup can be.

1056
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 2: Healthy like some breakups and some divorces are really really, ugly,

1057
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 2: right some worst case, scenario you're Like cassie And, diddy

1058
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 2: like what the hell is going on? There, Right but

1059
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 2: there's a lot of them, like, yeah we just kind

1060
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 2: of fell out of. Love and she's a great. Person he's,

1061
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 2: awesome he's a great she's an awesome mother for my,

1062
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: children he's great supporting my. Kids we just we just

1063
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 2: it was. Time and The Eagles namdy a great. Example

1064
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 2: andy got to, leave The, chiefs got a new, coach

1065
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 2: The eagles got to experiment and have won a couple

1066
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 2: Of Super bowls. Since And andy's gone on to become a.

1067
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 2: Legend like you could The tomlin. Thing, now worst case

1068
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 2: scenario is like this with The saints And Sean. Payton

1069
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 2: BUT i think that's how the change. Happens last year

1070
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 2: was the opportunity blow the bitch, up Send tom on packing.

1071
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 2: Again WHEN i say, packing he'd have his ten teams

1072
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 2: will try to hire. Him he'd get a job immediately

1073
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 2: and go Hire Ben, johnson like that's your big. Swing

1074
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 2: but they won't do. That AND i Understand Mike, tomlin

1075
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 2: LIKE i DON'T i love being the coach of The.

1076
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: STEELERS i would too IF i was. Him Andy reid

1077
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 2: liked being the coach of The. Eagles that to me

1078
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 2: is the. Move i've been an avid listener since the

1079
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 2: summer of twenty. Three do you think the new kickoff will?

1080
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 2: Stick it seems, Overwhelming it seems overly, complicated and did

1081
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 2: not seem to impact the games last season as much

1082
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 2: as it was hyped to. Do, also name idea for

1083
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 2: people TO dm you who care enough to stick around

1084
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 2: instead Of? Kafia what about fourth? Downers your show is

1085
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 2: three and, out but the ones who stick around for fourth? Down?

1086
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 2: Anyways you know what's funny IS i get a lot

1087
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 2: of feedback that people like the, uh mailbags, sometimes especially

1088
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 2: in the off season when we're just like kind of

1089
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 2: pick topics that not much is going. On, this you,

1090
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 2: know this pays the bills, here we got a grind right?

1091
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 2: Now is this type of? STUFF i get a lot

1092
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 2: of feedback that people like. It WHEN i get asked questions,

1093
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 2: NONSPORTS i do THINK i don't have the data in

1094
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 2: front of, me BUT i remember a headline From. GOODELL

1095
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 2: i think they like the kickoff a. LOT i agree

1096
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 2: it didn't give as many like, touchdowns but it did

1097
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 2: create a lot more returns where it had just. Ended

1098
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 2: it's kind of like moving the pat back when you

1099
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 2: have the pat from like the two yard line or

1100
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 2: five yard line or wherever the hell it. WAS i

1101
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 2: guess it was snapped at the, two so it kicked

1102
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 2: at the, seven so it was a seven ten like

1103
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 2: seventeen eighteen yard. Kick it was like ninety nine point

1104
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 2: nine percent of the. Time And belichick used to rail against, this,

1105
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 2: like what's the this? Is why don't we just give

1106
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 2: them just give a free point if you want it

1107
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 2: or go for, Two and then they moved it back

1108
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 2: and it's become like ninety. Percent SO i think they're

1109
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 2: just they just want a little. VARIETY i don't think

1110
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 2: it's going, anywhere no chance THAT i think they pivot off.

1111
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 2: That you mentioned how concert and stadium revenue go directly

1112
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 2: contributes to paying players and. Coaches, well it depends you

1113
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 2: got TO i, mean if you own your. Stadium you,

1114
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 2: know some people don't own their. Stadium some people are

1115
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 2: in business agreements with the, city with the. Municipality so

1116
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 2: every franchise is. Different who owns like The, RAIDERS i

1117
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 2: don't know what they're set up is With. Vegas but

1118
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 2: like every dollar that comes, in not every team owns

1119
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 2: one hundred percent of that. Dollar SOME i, know fifty

1120
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 2: percent of that. Dollar some might know thirty cents on that.

1121
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 2: Dollar some of mine own seventy percent on the. Dollar

1122
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 2: so it's not every team is the same that. WAY i,

1123
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 2: mean like the forty nine, ERS i Know Santa, clara

1124
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 2: they split. Revenue could you go into how wealthier owners

1125
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 2: are able to pay players more even though there is

1126
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 2: a salary. Cap i've heard the bonus years of kicking

1127
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 2: the can down the, road but it never fully makes

1128
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 2: sense to. Me so let's SAY i Have i'm a

1129
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 2: team AND i only have ten million dollars a salary. Cap,

1130
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 2: WELL i can get a guy that another team could, go,

1131
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 2: hey we'll give you five, years one hundred million. Dollars and,

1132
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 2: obviously over that course of that five year, DEAL i

1133
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 2: can set up the salary cap hits at twenty million a.

1134
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 2: YEAR i can set it up where it starts really

1135
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 2: low and gets really. High BUT i can go as

1136
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 2: an owner with a lot of cash and, go, listen

1137
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 2: THE teamx want you for five, years one hundred million.

1138
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 2: Dollars they're going to give you a signing bonus of

1139
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 2: twenty five million. Dollars that means over the course of

1140
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 2: the FIRST i think once you sign, it it's either

1141
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 2: fourteen days or twenty one, days that signing bonus will

1142
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 2: be in your. Account, WELL i will give you sixty

1143
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 2: million dollars signing. Bonus so of the one hundred million dollar,

1144
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 2: CONTRACT i will pay you sixty million dollars up. FRONT

1145
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 2: i mean that'd be, aggressive but SO i have the

1146
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 2: cash to take advantage of the, salary and THEN i

1147
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 2: can do these void years and make that five year

1148
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 2: contract eight years and spread that sixty million dollars THAT

1149
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 2: i give them in a signing bonus over the course

1150
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 2: of the. Contract so a lot of. TEAMS i, mean

1151
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 2: this is The, Bengals, like look how much signing bonuses

1152
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 2: they Gave Jamar chase AND T higgins SPECIFICALLY t higgins

1153
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 2: number wasn't that. High but their owner's not giving out

1154
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 2: that much cash. Historically the raceas you, know even once

1155
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 2: they moved To, vegas Like Mark davison doesn't have the

1156
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 2: cash that some of these other owners. Have Jeffrey, lewiy you,

1157
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 2: know has spent a lot of Cat Jimmy haslam has

1158
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 2: spent more actual. Cash so, like just BECAUSE i have

1159
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 2: all these contracts on the, books how much cash AM

1160
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 2: i actually paying people? Out Because i'm paying more cash

1161
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 2: than the actual salary. Cap Potentially Jimmy haslam's blown by.

1162
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 2: THAT i Think Jeffrey. Lury last year was The, browns The,

1163
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 2: eagles and The niners in some. ORDER i know The

1164
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 2: browns were. Won the cash that they spent on their

1165
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 2: team far exceeded the salary cap because of signing. Bonuses

1166
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 2: and it's how it's how you can manipulate the. System

1167
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 2: where in, basketball it's LIKE i Give Steph curry five,

1168
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 2: years three hundred million, DOLLARS i just pay him if

1169
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 2: the first year of the contracts forty million. DOLLARS i

1170
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 2: just pay him forty million. Dollars he doesn't get a signing. Bonus,

1171
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:59,919
Speaker 2: now it's all, guaranteed, Right Juan soto gets ten, years

1172
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 2: seven hundred, million or whatever the funck that number, is which,

1173
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 2: Again god he loafs a. Lot that'll do, it. Hopefully

1174
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 2: that was a little cliff note version of. Explanation have

1175
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 2: a great, day have a Good Memorial. DAY i Think

1176
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 2: i'm just Gonna i'm gonna go off the grid for

1177
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 2: a couple of days and just just relax SO i

1178
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 2: will see everyone soon and take it easy and enjoy

1179
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 2: a few cocktails on.

1180
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: Me the volume