WEBVTT - Episode 424: Reacting To The Mariners Series Win Vs. The Angels + Avery Chenier (Gate 14 Podcast)

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<v Speaker 1>What's up guys. Just a reminder before we start this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got our next live event and Mariners watch party

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<v Speaker 1>this upcoming Sunday, two days from now, and it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>over at Occidental Hall just outside the ballpark on Occidental Avenue.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't wait to see you guys there.

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<v Speaker 1>Along with our friends at Corona and our friends at

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<v Speaker 1>the Hall, we'll be watching the game with you guys

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<v Speaker 1>as the Mariners take on the Blue Jays this Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>Our event starts at two pm, which is right about

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<v Speaker 1>when first pitches, So if you want to come watch

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<v Speaker 1>the game with us, come on over and hang out.

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<v Speaker 1>You can grab some great food and drinks. Hopefully we'll

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<v Speaker 1>watch the Mariners get a series win, and then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be taping our podcast right afterward upstairs and there'll be

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of room for you guys to sit around

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<v Speaker 1>and hang out as we do so, so if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to come watch the game with us, absolutely come

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<v Speaker 1>on out. If you're at the game and want to

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<v Speaker 1>come hang out after the game as we record our podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah you can do that too. You can just walk

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<v Speaker 1>right over. So thanks to the Hall, thanks to our

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<v Speaker 1>friends at Corona. See you guys this Sunday. Can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to have the event. It'll be Sunday, July fifth, two

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<v Speaker 1>pm over at Occidental Hall.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to episode number four twenty four of the Marine

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<v Speaker 3>Layer Podcast. Who welcome on Avery Shenyeve from the Gate

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<v Speaker 3>fourteen podcast to preview the Mariners Blue Jays series this weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll also rehash some trauma from this past postseason while

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<v Speaker 3>and I will also react to the Mariners sweeping the

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<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles Angels.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get it.

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<v Speaker 4>Rolling and we Welcome you to this episode of the

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<v Speaker 4>Marine Layer podcast, part of the Just Baseball podcast network,

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<v Speaker 4>recording here on Thursday evening, July second lyle, I do

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<v Speaker 4>really love playing the.

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<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles Angels when in doubt. If you ever need

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<v Speaker 3>to fix, all you need to do is play the Angels.

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<v Speaker 1>The Angels are the ultimate slumpbuster. They really are. If

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<v Speaker 1>a team's in a slump, yeah, just go play the Angels.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that you made a great comparison on your

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<v Speaker 3>reaction today, just a plus comparison.

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<v Speaker 2>Enlighten the people.

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<v Speaker 3>So you compare them to the four to twenty thirteen Mariners.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, wow, how have I never thought of

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<v Speaker 3>this before? I mean, that's exactly it's it's aging superstar

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<v Speaker 3>and then zero development in the minor leagues and a

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<v Speaker 3>team that is perpetually winning seventy three eighty wins.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the first time you'd ever thought of that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I've thought about the Angels forever. Now it

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<v Speaker 1>is literally the twenty four to twenty thirteen Mariners.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I haven't seen the light.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, just a team like the Mariners were for

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<v Speaker 1>that decade. The Angels no direction, no farm system, like,

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<v Speaker 1>no sense of urgency at the top. They spend poorly,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't develop well, they draft. I mean, look, Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>Bremner might end up being good, but the fact they

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<v Speaker 1>actually passed on Kate Anderson for another college pitcher. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and you wonder why Perryman Nation finally got fired. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't. I don't know how anybody could be

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<v Speaker 1>a one sixty twur, a true one sixty tower and

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<v Speaker 1>watch every game of the Los Angeles Angels. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if there's Angels fans listening to this, I really am sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know there's probably not, because I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>think Angels fans exist at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we know one.

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<v Speaker 2>Was Swilly from John Boy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, well no, I meant one personally, maybe not publicly,

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<v Speaker 3>but okay, then maybe two.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh we had we had one friend from ASU who

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<v Speaker 1>was an Angels fan. I guess that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>Never there was that one game in twenty seventeen, early

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<v Speaker 3>in the year the Mariners bleue to the Angels, wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>it Rott was Fernana Rodney on the MOUNTDA.

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<v Speaker 2>In this thing? Yeah? Oh oh he blew it.

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<v Speaker 3>And Albert Poolhols and Mike Trout did the arrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, sorry, that wasn't twenty seventeen. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty fifteen. Or oh no, that was twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>It was twenty fourteen that that happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so then I'm thinking of it and maybe an

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<v Speaker 3>Edwin Diaz outing that he blew.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that they did blow a big lead in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen. I think it was a nine one, nine

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<v Speaker 1>to three in Anaheim and the ninth and they blew it.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember running down the hall of our dorm too,

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<v Speaker 3>said said persons with Roominy, and he's like, I can't

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<v Speaker 3>literally can't believe what just happened. That's like the vivid

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<v Speaker 3>memory of me interacting with an Angels fan in my

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<v Speaker 3>entire life Like that, that tells you the state. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles Angels franchise. Not much has changed since.

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<v Speaker 1>No, well that and then again we met Swelly from

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<v Speaker 1>John Boy in spring training this year because she was

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<v Speaker 1>at Mariner's camp for a day and she's a big

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<v Speaker 1>Angels fan.

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<v Speaker 2>But you don't find many of them, man, you just don't.

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<v Speaker 3>And it definitely helps Mariner's pitchers to face this Angel's lineup.

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<v Speaker 3>Like list off some of the the outings for Mariner's

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<v Speaker 3>pitchers against the Angels this year. The Mariner's starting pitching

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<v Speaker 3>dominated in this three game series against the Angels. George

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<v Speaker 3>Kirby struck out fourteen Angels twice last year. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>lineup really without that much of a plan and without

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<v Speaker 3>that much depth behind it. I mean, they have Nolan

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<v Speaker 3>shanawall bitten at batting in the middle of the lineup.

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<v Speaker 3>That dude has no juice whatsoever. So it just makes

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<v Speaker 3>Bryce Miller's job a lot easier when he faces a

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<v Speaker 3>lineup like this. He needs to be careful with like

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<v Speaker 3>two guys, and he can just you can just go attack.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's literally what Bryce Miller did all night. Like

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<v Speaker 3>Bryce Miller's mindset works perfectly with facing this Angel's lineup.

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<v Speaker 3>It just throws as many strikes as humanly possible and

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<v Speaker 3>you know they're never gonna touch it.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are the two Angels to be careful with? Obviously Netto,

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<v Speaker 1>are you counting.

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<v Speaker 3>Troul Maybe three? Then I was gonna say, in this

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<v Speaker 3>current lineup that they rolled out here on Thursday evening,

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<v Speaker 3>it would have been Solaire Adele and Zach Neto.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, I mean, look, Joe Adele is an incredibly nice dude.

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<v Speaker 1>We've gotten to talk to him a bit and shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to him, but just objectively by the numbers, this year,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not hitting very well. So I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>if you really have to be that careful with him

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I mean, he's got a six seventy eight ops.

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<v Speaker 3>We did it, almost hit forty homers last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, last year.

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<v Speaker 1>He was top ten in the league at homers, but

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<v Speaker 1>this year it's been a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Jorge Silaire is not really lighting the world

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<v Speaker 3>on fire either. I'm just saying, like those guys, if

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<v Speaker 3>you throw him a middle middle fastball might park one

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<v Speaker 3>into the seats. And in a game like tonight, that

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<v Speaker 3>was the only way the Mariners, the only way the

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<v Speaker 3>Mariners are gonna lose, But the only way Bryce Miller

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<v Speaker 3>was going to give up runs because he wasn't given

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<v Speaker 3>up that many base runners. Sure, so, I mean maybe

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<v Speaker 3>in that sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean these Mariners arms. I mean, you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>Bryce Miller goes seven shut out here in the finale

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<v Speaker 1>on Thursday, Brian wu goes nearly seven innings, giving up

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<v Speaker 1>two earned runs. On Tuesday, Yes six and third, giving

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<v Speaker 1>up two earned runs and then Monday with Kirby, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he went seven innings. Yeah, he was dominant Kirby

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<v Speaker 1>on on Monday. Yeah went or sorry, eight innings, not

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<v Speaker 1>seven eight innings to earned runs, seven punchouts. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the Los Angeles Angels people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thank you very much, Los Angeles Angels.

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<v Speaker 1>But by the way, why in the world was there

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<v Speaker 1>an off day on Wednesday? And I know your answer

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be oh, because there was a World Cup game.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't the US. The game was at one o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't all that crowded down there. Why was that

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<v Speaker 1>game off?

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<v Speaker 3>There needs to be a certain amount of time I

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<v Speaker 3>believe between between the game at Lumen or Seattle Stadium

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<v Speaker 3>and then the game at T Mobile Park. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's I'm gonna say it needs to be six hours

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<v Speaker 3>between kickoff times.

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<v Speaker 1>But that can't be right because the Seahawks back in

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<v Speaker 1>October had their game end and the Mariner's playoff game

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<v Speaker 1>starts an hour later.

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<v Speaker 3>But they were in the same place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember the crazy Sunday. It was game two of the

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<v Speaker 1>Alds against the Tigers, the first google game the Mariners won.

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<v Speaker 1>The Seahawks lost one of their only three games of

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<v Speaker 1>the year that year to the Bucks late and then

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<v Speaker 1>the matters started about an hour later.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Okay, I believe that's the case, because Okay, I

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<v Speaker 3>think I have an answer for this now, because before

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<v Speaker 3>the season started, MLB New Seattle was going to host

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<v Speaker 3>a Round of thirty two game on Wednesday, but you

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know a time.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>It could have been because we were the two slots

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<v Speaker 3>one in five on that same Yeah, so they played it.

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<v Speaker 3>If they ended up playing a night game at like

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<v Speaker 3>five o'clock, then that would have been different than they

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't have done both.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let me say this too. I know this is

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<v Speaker 1>a baseball podcast. Monday down by the stadium is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be so sick I cannot wait.

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<v Speaker 3>Should we just sleep at Oxdenal Hall? So we'll be

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<v Speaker 3>there Sunday evening. Yeah, and so for our live event

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<v Speaker 3>come by, by the way, we'll have giveaways. Shout out

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<v Speaker 3>to Corona in the Hall for making that happen. It

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<v Speaker 3>should be fun. We'll be watching the game and we'll

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<v Speaker 3>have a whole bunch of giveaways and then you can

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<v Speaker 3>watch us take the podcast upstairs afterwards. It'll be a blast,

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<v Speaker 3>so please come on by. Maybe we should just stay.

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<v Speaker 1>Overnight, honestly, I mean they have bathrooms there. You bring

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<v Speaker 1>your toothbrush to brush your teeth. They got those long

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<v Speaker 1>couches upstairs. Get a blanket and sleep on the couch

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<v Speaker 1>and then yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then the hall has like literally the best breakfast.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're easy. Yeah, pretty easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Right For those of you that are planning to go

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<v Speaker 1>down to the stadium on Monday, I mean, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be an absolute circus down there. But TJ and I

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<v Speaker 1>are definitely planning to be down there, so you may

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<v Speaker 1>see us. If you see us, please come find us

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<v Speaker 1>or come say what's up, because.

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<v Speaker 3>We have like a wild amount of people like come

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<v Speaker 3>up to us, like even during the like out before

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<v Speaker 3>these matches, I mean even even on on uh Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 3>Wednesday Wednesday, and then for the last US game too.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, like it's it's a lot of Seattle people,

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<v Speaker 3>so it makes sense, it does. I mean, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be so much fun. It I'm loving the it's a

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<v Speaker 3>Monday night football game in Seattle. Buckle up. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>it's the full Seahawks energy. Something batshit crazy is gonna

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<v Speaker 3>happen primetime game in Seattle on a Monday night. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean something, something's just gonna go off the Rails. Drew

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<v Speaker 3>Lock's gonna lead a comeback against the best team in

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<v Speaker 3>the league exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, I know we're a baseball podcast, but Monday is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be sick. Cannot wait to be down by the

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<v Speaker 1>ballpark and or just down by the stadiums, I should say, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Also free flow ball. Again, FIFA is a fucking corrupt

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<v Speaker 2>ass league.

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<v Speaker 3>They can't even appeal. They can't even appeal his red card. No,

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<v Speaker 3>this is the wildest thing ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't even appeal it. Sorry, not league. FIFA is a

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<v Speaker 1>corrupt ass organization. Shock this.

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<v Speaker 3>This is like one of two of the biggest events

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<v Speaker 3>in the world at the Olympics, and they can't review

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<v Speaker 3>an ejection that was now know they can't review They

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<v Speaker 3>can't review a suspension that was absolutely that was absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>unintentional too, and it's because it's not written in FIFA's

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<v Speaker 3>bylaws like that. That just sounds crazy. This is I

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<v Speaker 3>guess this is what happens when you have a tournament

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<v Speaker 3>that happens every four years and there's no players union

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<v Speaker 3>to like advocate for something like this, Like MLB plays

0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:01.880
<v Speaker 3>every single year for the players have a union, they're

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<v Speaker 3>they're always playing in the same league and they make

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<v Speaker 3>sure they're looked after fully. But the all these players

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<v Speaker 3>for all these different countries, I mean no, there's no

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<v Speaker 3>one looking after them. It's just FIFA. Yeah, you want FIFA,

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<v Speaker 3>you want to put your your trust in FIFA to

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<v Speaker 3>do the right thing. It's never gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, the World Cup would have been here sooner,

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<v Speaker 1>except you know, they took a bunch of money from

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<v Speaker 1>the Sadi's to have in other places.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, oh, you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Telling me FIFA is not a good standing, blue collar

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<v Speaker 1>group of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, nope, I hear there. Awards mean a lot

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<v Speaker 3>these days too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, how sad. I'm really looking forward to Monday, though.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be really fun.

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<v Speaker 3>I still feel pretty good. I feel like the home

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<v Speaker 3>field advantage is going to be incredible. I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>a really good chance if it hasn't already been, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>Monday is gonna showcase like how great of a sports

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<v Speaker 3>town this is. We see it with the Mariners all

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<v Speaker 3>the time, we see it with the Seahawks, the Sounders.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's gonna like light up like a rocket ship.

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<v Speaker 3>If I'm a Mariner and I have any sort of

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<v Speaker 3>interest in soccer, I am bummed that I'm gonna spend

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<v Speaker 3>that that day. Like you know, they'll probably fly early,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'll spend that day in Florida, three thousand miles away.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead of going to the game. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it is gonna be, like it's a bad

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<v Speaker 1>time for people out there that say Seattle's a dying

0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:32.120
<v Speaker 1>city in a bad sports town. Yet not after the

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<v Speaker 1>last time the World Cup game was here for the US,

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<v Speaker 1>and certainly not after on Monday.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a really good conversation coming up with Avery Schenye.

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<v Speaker 3>But I did want to talk about Bryce Miller here

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<v Speaker 3>for a second because he has just been on another level.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he just keeps doing it. This is the

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<v Speaker 3>Mariner's best starter right now, hands down, Like until he

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<v Speaker 3>proves otherwise, this is the best starter in the Mariner's

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<v Speaker 3>rotation in twenty twenty six. It's better than Wu, It's

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<v Speaker 3>better than Gilbert's better than Kirby, Like I've seen enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, are sitting at one seven in early July.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a pretty definitive statement. I know he's

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<v Speaker 1>made a few less starts than the other guys, but

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<v Speaker 1>hell yeah, this is your best pitcher.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, get him to Philly.

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<v Speaker 3>They should, they should pull every string possible to get

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<v Speaker 3>him to Philly. But I don't even you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>think it would be really cool. I don't like he

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't have to go to Philly. What I'm most excited

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<v Speaker 3>about is how Bryce Miller is gonna be that much

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<v Speaker 3>fresher than everyone else in August. In September, well, a

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<v Speaker 3>reason the Mariner said, and the more we were at

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<v Speaker 3>the ballpark talking to people, the more this seemed true,

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<v Speaker 3>is that the reason the Mariners went away from the

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<v Speaker 3>piggyback this past weekend was to get everyone more rest.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really feel like Bryce Miller needs more rest.

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<v Speaker 3>He's gonna end up throwing what like one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna throw one hundred and forty innings this season.

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<v Speaker 3>He's gonna have a lot more I think a lot

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<v Speaker 3>more runway to go at the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people might mention that he didn't throw that many

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<v Speaker 3>innings last year, and that's fair. I guess we'll have

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<v Speaker 3>to see. But I feel pretty confident in what we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to see from Bryce Miller the rest of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>He just looks as complete of a pitcher as you

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<v Speaker 3>possibly can get. I mean, over his last four start

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<v Speaker 3>style he struck out thirty three batters and watched none.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the first pitcher in Mariner's history of four consecutive

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<v Speaker 3>starts of seven strikeouts and zero walks. He's doing things

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<v Speaker 3>Brian wu didn't even do last year for Logan Gilbert

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<v Speaker 3>the year before. It's just outstanding.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's funny, like you look at Bryce's Savant page,

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<v Speaker 1>and even in twenty twenty four when he had his

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<v Speaker 1>best season, there's a lot of underlying data with Bryce

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<v Speaker 1>that often won't favor him, and that isn't the case

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<v Speaker 1>at all this year. Right now, his Savant page looks

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<v Speaker 1>like what Paul Skeins of the Savant page would look like,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, outside of the ground ball rate, because Bryce

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<v Speaker 1>isn't a guy that gets a ton of ground balls.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything else is just popping out at you like no other.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's striking batters out at a crazy raid.

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<v Speaker 1>He's throwing hard, I mean, he's not getting hit hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything And then you look at just pitch by pitch,

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<v Speaker 1>and for a guy that just straight up attacks people

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<v Speaker 1>and does so with just conviction, the results show it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's dominating with his four seam fastball and

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<v Speaker 1>that splitter that he developed a couple of years ago

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<v Speaker 1>has been deadly as ever.

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<v Speaker 3>And the only reason he lost is no hitter today

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<v Speaker 3>is because the Mariners by the fifth inning had maybe

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<v Speaker 3>their worst defensive outfield out there in franchise history.

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<v Speaker 2>Brandy Rose, Arena, Luke Rayley, Weston Wilson.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly one of the literally I couldn't believe what I

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<v Speaker 3>was seeing out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, dude, and he lost his perfect game because JP

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<v Speaker 1>botched another throw, which, by the way, had Bryce Miller

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<v Speaker 1>actually thrown a no hitter and only faced one batter

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<v Speaker 1>over the minimum for the game, and the one batter

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<v Speaker 1>extra was because of a JP Crawford e error. JP

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<v Speaker 1>Crawford would have owed Bryce Miller multiple steak dinners, like

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<v Speaker 1>multiple because that wasn't a play where he had to

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<v Speaker 1>dive and get up and then he airmails it trying

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<v Speaker 1>to rush the throw because he wants to beat the

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<v Speaker 1>runner to first. Oh no, that was another routine play,

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<v Speaker 1>right to JP Crawford who just sails a throw and

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<v Speaker 1>loses Bryce Miller's perfect game.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's right out of the Hanley Ramirez Clayton Kershaw playbook.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it tells you all you need to know. When

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<v Speaker 3>Andre Smunios besides the walks making me nervous in the

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<v Speaker 3>ninth inning, there was that pop up in left center

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<v Speaker 3>field and Rayley and Randy are converging on it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know the you know the TikTok trendlyle the saxophones

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<v Speaker 3>getting louder. Mm hmm, Yeah, saxophones are getting loud as

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<v Speaker 3>fuck when that ball was in the air. What a team.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a tough defensive group to have out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I will give credit. I will give Julio some credit.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, the defensive metrics aren't all the way

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<v Speaker 1>back to where we'd usually see Julio's defensive metrics, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you extrapolated over the last month or so, he

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<v Speaker 1>is back to playing pretty Julio Rodriguez quality defense, which

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty nice to see.

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<v Speaker 3>And very much needed. Speaking of him, it's a bummer

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<v Speaker 3>he's out that. That has been one of the unluckiest

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<v Speaker 3>things I've seen. The ball just so happened to squarely

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<v Speaker 3>hit him in the back of the noggin, and I

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<v Speaker 3>guess he seemed dizzy enough where he had to come

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<v Speaker 3>out of the game. And then two other Mariners batters

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<v Speaker 3>got hit, which left them a little shaken up. It's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't hear anyone on the Angel side talking about

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<v Speaker 3>hit by pitches this time. I didn't hear Trout, didn't

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<v Speaker 3>hear Ty Buttery. I didn't hear anyone online.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, Ty Butchery made his account private. I guess Mariners

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<v Speaker 1>fans cooked him so hard from the last time, but

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<v Speaker 1>now he got scared it, can't handle the heat and

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<v Speaker 1>made his account private.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, buddy, it's like it's almost like it's almost like

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<v Speaker 2>you're soft.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny how it always comes around to the fact

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<v Speaker 3>it's really the other team who's instigating all this shit,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's the Mariners. It's always the Astros and it's

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<v Speaker 3>always the Angels, well every single time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, sometimes Naylor instigates things, but other than him, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't throw at guys. No, No, the Mariners never

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<v Speaker 1>throw at guys. Do other people, Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>But also has Naylor ever done anything dirty like he trolls,

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<v Speaker 3>has he ever been like dirty?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if people are trying to argue that

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<v Speaker 1>throwing his sliding mitt was dirty.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just like and I'm like.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, I didn't think that was that dirty.

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<v Speaker 1>No again, it's it's a sliding mitt, and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like he chucked it hard.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like slipped out of his hands and it weighs

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<v Speaker 3>like half an ounce.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I mean. No, it's in terms of throwing

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<v Speaker 1>at people. The Mariners almost never throw at people. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the it's the other AOS teams, and then they try

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<v Speaker 1>and play victim. Merwin ty Buttrey told all these Mariners

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<v Speaker 1>fans that if you disagree with me, you don't know baseball,

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<v Speaker 1>So sit down and shut up and like go learn ball.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny now that guy's account is.

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<v Speaker 3>Private, doesn't want to have any more conversations anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly, dude, he quote tweeted us at one point trying

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<v Speaker 1>to cook us. And we weren't gonna go fifteen rounds

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<v Speaker 1>with this dude because we're like, it's not worth our time.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's on an absolute like heater right now, and

0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:19.840
<v Speaker 1>not in a good way, like a bad heater, and

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<v Speaker 1>We're just like, we're just gonna ignore him, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he locks his account like all right, man sick.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it tells you everything you need to know

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<v Speaker 3>about where the Mariners stand in this situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm, I would agree.

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<v Speaker 3>Great conversation with Avery Shanye. We got to do something

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<v Speaker 3>we have been waiting for since last October. We got

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<v Speaker 3>to debrief the postseason last year and you'll hear it

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<v Speaker 3>at the beginning, but we get to ask the honest question,

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<v Speaker 3>who had it worse.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's more in the middle of the interview.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was more in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation we did it. But it's in there.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 3>It is in there.

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<v Speaker 1>We hash out a lot, their perspective on it, our

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<v Speaker 1>perspective on it, how they were feeling, how we were feeling,

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<v Speaker 1>than how they were feeling after the World Series. Yeah,

0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:34.920
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot in there. And by the way, for

0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:37.880
<v Speaker 1>those of you who don't know the Gate fourteen podcast,

0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:39.600
<v Speaker 1>which I'm guessing a lot of you do at this.

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<v Speaker 3>Point, probably because Johnny's always tweeting at them.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, Johnny's a live wire. I mean, we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it with Avery a little bit in the episode. I

0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:51.760
<v Speaker 1>do think us and them have some similarities. We're not

0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:56.840
<v Speaker 1>carving copies. But the best way I can compare them is, again,

0:22:57.080 --> 0:23:00.679
<v Speaker 1>they're not carbon copies, but they are sort of the

0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Toronto version of us. They are the unapologetic voice of

0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:09.360
<v Speaker 1>the fans in Toronto and Canada. But these guys Man

0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:11.320
<v Speaker 1>is a team based podcast. I mean, we get into

0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:14.640
<v Speaker 1>it with Avery. They're they're in commercials in Canada now

0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:16.919
<v Speaker 1>and they're doing stuff with all these different players and

0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:19.040
<v Speaker 1>they've got these great relationships with the team.

0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:21.520
<v Speaker 2>It's it's pretty.

0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:23.399
<v Speaker 1>Wild what they've built and the engagement they get on

0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:26.960
<v Speaker 1>all their episodes and posts. It's remarkable what those guys

0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:28.240
<v Speaker 1>have done. And it's been cool to get to know

0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:30.919
<v Speaker 1>him over the last couple of years, both from just

0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:34.199
<v Speaker 1>content and being online and also getting to meet him in.

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:36.280
<v Speaker 2>Seattle last year. And yeah, it was a blast have

0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:37.600
<v Speaker 2>Avery on. It was fun.

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<v Speaker 3>We will keep you guys any longer. Let's get you

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<v Speaker 3>to that interview with Avery.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we've got our friend Avery on with us.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys probably know him better as one of the

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<v Speaker 1>two hosts of the Gate fourteen podcast Toronto Blue Jays podcast. Avery,

0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:58.200
<v Speaker 1>thanks for hopping on. I'll ask the same question everybody's

0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:01.240
<v Speaker 1>probably thinking themselves in the American League right now, but man,

0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:02.639
<v Speaker 1>how you feeling about your own team?

0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:09.680
<v Speaker 5>I hate them? They suck. They suck right now. It's brutal. Yeah, man,

0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:13.440
<v Speaker 5>coming off in awesome last year to be rewarded with

0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:17.560
<v Speaker 5>some of the baseball we're watching right now is it's

0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:19.879
<v Speaker 5>the hardships you deal with sometimes. And as we were

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:23.000
<v Speaker 5>going through the playoffs last years, like you gotta remember man,

0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:25.719
<v Speaker 5>this for the Blue Jays. It doesn't happen every year,

0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:28.919
<v Speaker 5>so you got to really embrace it and enjoy what

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:32.320
<v Speaker 5>they've been doing. And everyone seemed to have forgotten that,

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:34.480
<v Speaker 5>as you do when you're watching one hundred and sixty

0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:37.800
<v Speaker 5>two games. And yeah, we're dealing with it not very

0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:40.720
<v Speaker 5>well here in Toronto. It's been been tough to watch.

0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 3>But weren't the Blue Jays at this point last year?

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<v Speaker 3>Also in I mean, they're not in last place right now,

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 3>but they were in last place like a year ago, right,

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:51.880
<v Speaker 3>and still ended up winning ninety four games. How's it different?

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:55.360
<v Speaker 6>June changed. June changed everything last year.

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<v Speaker 5>Then there was a big, big run in the middle

0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:01.040
<v Speaker 5>of that, and yeah, I think it think it was

0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:03.600
<v Speaker 5>at like the sixty game mark where things kind of change.

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:06.960
<v Speaker 5>This year, Like the five game losing streak they just

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:10.720
<v Speaker 5>went on was really just kicking the nuts.

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 6>Like that was perfect time. You finally get back to

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<v Speaker 6>five hundred.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't do anything if you don't get back to

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:17.680
<v Speaker 5>five hundred first, right, Like, that's that's the starting point

0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:19.760
<v Speaker 5>to see if we're gonna take this thing serious. So

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 5>you get back to five hundred, you battle, and then

0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:25.560
<v Speaker 5>you play the worst five baseball games you've ever seen,

0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:28.959
<v Speaker 5>just some hilarious losses in the middle of that. So

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:30.880
<v Speaker 5>that was really tough, like just get back to five

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:33.240
<v Speaker 5>hundred and see what we can do. And we thought

0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 5>we had a sixteen game stretch here where it was

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:38.040
<v Speaker 5>kind of make or break a little you guys know,

0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 5>like it's not truly truly make or break, but you

0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:44.119
<v Speaker 5>could on paper make up some ground against these guys

0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 5>and good start and then five game losing streak in

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<v Speaker 5>the middle of it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not good, oh dude.

0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:53.440
<v Speaker 1>So believe me, we know when you say that it's

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 1>not make or break in June, but it feels make

0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 1>or break.

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 2>The Mariners are currently going through.

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<v Speaker 1>The softest, easiest part of their schedule here in June,

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:03.120
<v Speaker 1>and they're not taking advantage of it at all. I mean,

0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:06.960
<v Speaker 1>They've gone up against the Orioles and the Tigers and

0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 1>the Angels and the Pirates, I.

0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:12.240
<v Speaker 2>Mean, and they're just winning none of these series. So yeah,

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 2>believe me, we get it.

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:16.879
<v Speaker 5>It doesn't get worse than that too, when you have

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.119
<v Speaker 5>some wins, Like when you look at the schedule at

0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:20.879
<v Speaker 5>the start of the season, NFL fans are kind of

0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:23.160
<v Speaker 5>doing that right now. Looking at the schedule seeing we're

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 5>gonna put some wins and losses. Yeah, and then you

0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:28.080
<v Speaker 5>get to the soft spot and then you actually don't

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:29.639
<v Speaker 5>win those games.

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<v Speaker 6>Nothing worse, nothing worse.

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<v Speaker 3>The last time a lot of Mariner fans saw the

0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:36.880
<v Speaker 3>Blue Jays, it was in the ALCS, which we'll get

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 3>to here in a little bit. But they saw an

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:44.000
<v Speaker 3>offense that was just crushing the ball, dominating Mariner's pitching,

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:47.679
<v Speaker 3>and they saw at least good enough Blue Jays pitching.

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 3>So what is the big What is the difference between

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:52.880
<v Speaker 3>what we're watching or what you're watching with the Blue

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:55.080
<v Speaker 3>Jays this year as opposed to the last time a

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 3>lot of our listeners watched the Toronto Blue Jays.

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:02.720
<v Speaker 6>You can't hit. They're just not hitting at all right now, which.

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:05.280
<v Speaker 3>Is just hard to believe, to be honest. Kids literally

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 3>couldn't throw a ball past the bat of the Toronto

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 3>Blue Jays last time.

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So, so we're dealing with multiple springer injuries early, right, Like,

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:16.160
<v Speaker 5>that's a guy who's thirty six, thirty five, thirty six.

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 5>You get some injuries from that guy and it's gonna

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 5>be tough, like we dealt with it the year before,

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 5>where he was sub one hundred wait runs creative plus

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 5>we're doing the same thing right now where he's just

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 5>struggling but getting a ton of at bats in the

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 5>one hole and it's just kind of killing the team.

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 5>And then Vlad is a below league average hitter right now,

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:38.359
<v Speaker 5>which is impossible to think about, and it's clearly just

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 5>killing the team. He's been one of the worst hitters

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 5>in baseball last month and a half. It's truly just

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 5>those two guys. And there's a bunch of injuries. Like

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 5>to Kirk, you had an injury where he was out

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:50.119
<v Speaker 5>it was the third series of the season and he

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:52.880
<v Speaker 5>got back. Was that last week or two weeks ago.

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 5>So it's injuries piling up the stars not being stars.

0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:01.160
<v Speaker 5>And honestly, the pitching has been kind of on par

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 5>with last year as well. Bullpen's pretty good starters. We're

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 5>going through a tough stretch right now where we let

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:10.440
<v Speaker 5>up a run in the first inning every single game

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 5>and the pitching starting pitching has been brutal.

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 6>Right now.

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 5>I think that can get back on track and they

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:18.679
<v Speaker 5>can be middle of the pack to top end of

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 5>the past, like top ten, maybe sit around ten to twelve,

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 5>where it goes starters v ra I think they can

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 5>settle in there, but not pitching great right now. And

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:29.880
<v Speaker 5>then you just got Louis Viarlin locking down the back

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 5>and it's honestly just hitting.

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:33.439
<v Speaker 6>They can't hit, teez.

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:34.119
<v Speaker 2>What's that like?

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, stars aren't performing injuries, piling up inconsistent starters.

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know, man, this is news to me.

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean sounds sounds sounds pretty similar to me. Yeah,

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 3>maybe maybe for slightly different reasoning. It might honestly might

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 3>just be an ALCS hungover hangover.

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:55.960
<v Speaker 2>I think could be. I was I was thinking that too.

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 5>I was trying to go back after they lost in

0:28:58.400 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 5>the World Series.

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 6>Like, what do the losers traditionally do?

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 5>I try to do a list of last twenty years.

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 5>That's what the losers would do. It's usually just really

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 5>good teams that are just gonna make the playoffs and

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 5>be good the next year. Besides the d Backs, right,

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 5>they struggled after a lot of these teams are making

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 5>the playoffs. There wasn't too many teams that struggled too much.

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 5>But my worry was we had some of these young guys.

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 5>You just throw so many innings you lose a whole

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 5>month of the offseason. It's like, how are you going

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 5>to bounce back? And then we have these young guys

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 5>in the bullpen who are I think we have four

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 5>of the top ten leaders in reliever appearances right now.

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 5>Like they are throwing all the time. Because the pitching's

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 5>kind of good, you can't score enough runs, so you're

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 5>using your decent guys in leverage almost all the time

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 5>to try and win these games. Can't You can't run

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 5>the bullpen differently. They just almost need better pitchers in

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 5>the pen of your lower guys. But I mean, every

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 5>team has guys who suck at the bottom of their

0:29:57.240 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 5>bullpen and you just can't use them in leverage all

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 5>the time. So it's been it's been frustrating all around.

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how to change things, but it's just

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 5>been frustrating time.

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 3>A lot of people with the Mariners suspect that they

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 3>are not playing well under the weight of the expectations

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 3>of this season. Do you feel like the Blue Jays

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 3>are experiencing the same thing.

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 6>I'd never heard that before, but it makes a little

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 6>bit a sense.

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 5>For this Jase team last year there was zero expectations.

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 5>It was seventy six and a half wins, right, that

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 5>was the preseason total. I was saying, like, that was

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 5>a ridiculous number. I was screaming that you have to

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:40.520
<v Speaker 5>bet the over on. That wasn't gambling advice, but I

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 5>was like, that's the wrong number. We saw them seventy

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 5>four wins the year before with the worst bullpen in baseball.

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 5>They're going to figure it out to at least do

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 5>better than that, no expectation. But this year you come

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 5>in with like crazy high expectations, as you guys said.

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 5>And that hasn't been brought up in the Toronto media yet,

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 5>and I don't think. I don't think anyone's going to

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 5>bring it up, but it could be making a little

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 5>bit sense. That's such a cop out. They're baseball players.

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 5>Everyone knows that they're expected to win games.

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 2>In my mind, yeah, it's fair.

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I think at least for Seattle, they never really had

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>expectations like this, at least this group, so it hasn't

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>been hammered home every day in terms of the expectations.

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 1>But the vibe may have been different in Blue Jays

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 1>camp in spring training, but at least in Mariners camp

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of just outward talk from everybody

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:32.240
<v Speaker 1>about we know what the expectations are, like like, we

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>know we have like a shot to win it all

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>this year, to go to the World Series, et cetera.

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>So like there was a lot of talk about it preseason,

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 1>and now here on June the thirtieth, when the three

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>of us are sitting here recording this, they're sitting right

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 1>at five hundred. So there has been, at least in

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 1>our neck of the woods, some talk about is it

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>an expectations thing?

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 5>Would you rather have no expectations or have a good

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 5>team that has actually, like, you guys have every good

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 5>prospect in the world. That's going to be the thing

0:31:57.720 --> 0:32:00.160
<v Speaker 5>for the next eight years, hopefully for the Mariners.

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 3>For sure from here on out, I don't want any

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 3>more expectations because every single time they have expectations, they

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 3>go below them.

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like if you want into the real nitty gritty

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 1>and the weeds, Like twenty fifteen, they were on the

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 1>cover of Sports Illustrated being like, Oh, this team's finally

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna win the Al West and make a World Series run.

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 1>They missed the playoffs that year. Right now they're under

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 1>five hundred. I think twenty three they had big expectations,

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 1>missed the playoffs, like they're bad with expectations when they

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 1>get put on the spotlight, like, oh, it's bad.

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 3>They put out a preseason video where it ended with

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 3>someone writing on a whiteboard world series to underscore it said,

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 3>it said win it all, two underscore, Yeah, win it all,

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 3>two underscores. The video was pinned on the Mariners profile,

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 3>I think until about mid June, until it had enough

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 3>comments underneath it that they unbind the video. And uh,

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 3>I was like, yeah, maybe maybe we don't, Maybe we

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 3>don't do that anymore.

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 6>It's it's tough.

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 5>You just keep winning and then the uh, the pressure

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:01.880
<v Speaker 5>of the expectations go away if you just constantly right right, yeah,

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 5>and yeah, just the one year off.

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:04.920
<v Speaker 2>It's funny.

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I always feel like, because we're all talking about like

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 1>what's wrong with our own team these days here at

0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 1>the end of June, I feel like when you're not

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 1>as close to it as we all are with our

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 1>own teams, you some like it's easier for us. For example,

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 1>the look at the Blue Jays and say, oh, they're

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna turn this whole thing around, like Vladiee'll start to

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 1>hit and like you'll get some guys back off the il,

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:30.720
<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna make a run in the second half.

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Even though when you guys, when you and Johnny are

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 1>in it every day, you probably feel like, oh, no way,

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 1>it's probably the same thing you back at us. You're

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 1>probably thinking to yourself, Oh, like Juli all have his

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 1>hot second half like usual, and Cal can't be this

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 1>bad all year, and you guys will figure it out.

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 1>But we sit here saying, well, here's X, Y and

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Z a million problems they have.

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, they're never gonna figure this out.

0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 1>I feel like when you're farther away from the situation,

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 1>it's almost easier to have positive perspective, absolutely, like you're

0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:59.480
<v Speaker 1>not watching them blow up all the time, you're not

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>watching all the awful at bats, and you can look

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 1>at the stats for what they are, not having your

0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>preconceived notions of watching the games.

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 5>Oh, these stats don't match up with with the eye test. Yeah,

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 5>I totally agree. I'm I'm just surprised the Mariner's record,

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:15.880
<v Speaker 5>to be honest, Like, I'll see your guys postgame Instagram

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:19.799
<v Speaker 5>videos like, oh they lost again, and we see that

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 5>the record, and I'm like, wow, it's just kind of

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:25.720
<v Speaker 5>around five hundred, Like that's kind of a really big

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 5>surprise for for what the Mariners have been doing. And again,

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:31.439
<v Speaker 5>like those expectations he said.

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 3>And it's it surprises us too. Here's another thing that

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 3>surprises me when I look at the Blue Jays and

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 3>I've kind of thought this in the back of my head,

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 3>but he's had some just you know, unbelievable seasons and

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:46.359
<v Speaker 3>there's a reason why he got paid. But I'm looking

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 3>at this season from Vladdie and I've always thought, like

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 3>in the back of my mind that he's he's not

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 3>always consistent. Do you guys think he's consistent.

0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:57.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'd say he's consistent.

0:34:57.040 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 5>This is the first Okay, this is as bad as

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:03.279
<v Speaker 5>it's ever been, like totally far and away, not even

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 5>close to this bat of a stretch any other time

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 5>in his career.

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:10.320
<v Speaker 3>He's had seasons where he hasn't been like an elite hitter,

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 3>though he's been like a solid hitter, but he's always

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:14.360
<v Speaker 3>had the problem where he hits the ball on the

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 3>ground too much and he doesn't have the athleticism to

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:21.239
<v Speaker 3>make up for, you know, not crushing the ball in

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 3>the air all over the place. So there's been those

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 3>years where he's only like a ten percent above league

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 3>average hitter. So I've thought, like the Blue Jays rely

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 3>on him to be a little bit more than that,

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 3>and even if he were to do that, it would

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:35.359
<v Speaker 3>be a little bit frustrating. But yeah, of course he's

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 3>not done this yet.

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:39.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, twenty twenty three was that one to ten I

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 5>think he was. He did that and that was total

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:45.239
<v Speaker 5>disappointment from everyone. Then he followed it up with I

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 5>think it was one sixty four and twenty four, and

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 5>then there's one thirty I think last year. So you

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:53.840
<v Speaker 5>know what he can be is just how can you

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 5>not get power from your first baseman. It's like that's

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:01.279
<v Speaker 5>people like to say. It's a big thing on Jay's

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 5>Twitter right now, is oh Vlattie wasn't really this big

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 5>power hitter coming up. It's like you guys are not

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 5>remembering correctly, like clearly not remembering him coming up as

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:16.360
<v Speaker 5>a prospect correctly because he was like Vauda is his best,

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 5>like almost eighty grade power guy, like that's what it

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:23.319
<v Speaker 5>was before and not the can't come out of the

0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 5>blue and say now, yeah, he wasn't this power hitter.

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 5>He was a massive power, and then he's hit so

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 5>many home runs in twenty twenty. It's it's that was

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:34.279
<v Speaker 5>not the right remembering of him as a prospect.

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 6>So it's been tough.

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:38.440
<v Speaker 5>Like you look at the leader boards, flat swing and

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 5>ideal launch angle, an attack angle. He's probably one of

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 5>the worst in baseball at it, and it's just such

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:47.800
<v Speaker 5>a clear thing. He doesn't work with the hitting coaches

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:51.080
<v Speaker 5>that much. He's always had his own guys, and after

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 5>last year, I don't I don't know where those eight

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 5>home runs in a month came from because the swing

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 5>didn't change. It looks the exact same, and now we

0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 5>have this who was a great professional hitter.

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 6>Latti was right like he was.

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:06.960
<v Speaker 5>The ability to take walks was another thing that helped

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:09.800
<v Speaker 5>him be an elite hitter. And we the chase rate's

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 5>gone up like crazy. The whole team chase rate is high.

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 5>They chased a lot last year, but they made good

0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 5>out of his own contact and they had some out

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:19.440
<v Speaker 5>of zone slug like some of those guys just do

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 5>that on the Blue Jays. But Vladdy's chasing like crazy

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:23.680
<v Speaker 5>and we we've lost him.

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:25.240
<v Speaker 6>So I think it's fine.

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 5>There's still even when he was really good, like there

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:30.800
<v Speaker 5>was some changes to be made to optimize his swing.

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 5>So I hope we get to a point where he's

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:35.719
<v Speaker 5>ready to dig in and really change things to be

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:38.960
<v Speaker 5>this powerherder that he can be. It's he's too strong

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:41.120
<v Speaker 5>to not be hitting home runs. Four home runs at

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 5>this point is just not acceptable, and we all believe

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 5>in him, but it's it's frustrating to watch.

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:50.840
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0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:52.600
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0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:54.400
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0:37:57.640 --> 0:38:00.200
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0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:02.400
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0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:05.240
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0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:07.120
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<v Speaker 5>Hey, yeah, exactly. So I'm he's he was a great hitter.

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<v Speaker 5>He can hit it the other way. He's not like

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<v Speaker 5>crazy pull all the time.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, he's one.

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<v Speaker 5>Of the better power prospects ever. So I just what

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<v Speaker 5>are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 2>I think we've I think we've held off long enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we ready to each Are you ready to rehash

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<v Speaker 1>last October and have like a therapy session mid podcast here?

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:49.879
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 3>I think we just got to rip the band aid off.

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<v Speaker 3>Who had it worse?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I think you guys, I'm gonna be real. I don't

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 5>feel that way like I got. I mean, they just

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<v Speaker 5>lost in the World Series. It was it was fine

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 5>no matter what to me, Like I was finds the

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<v Speaker 5>wrong term. It was gonna hurt no matter what whenever

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:11.800
<v Speaker 5>you lost at any point.

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 1>But when you get when you get that close and

0:41:15.040 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 1>you've got one out in the ninth inning in Toronto,

0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Hoffman on the Mount, Like I can't speak to it

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:23.480
<v Speaker 1>because I didn't live in your guys' shoes, but like

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:25.759
<v Speaker 1>it had to be going through your head at that

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:27.960
<v Speaker 1>point right, Like you've got Miguel Rojas up with one

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 1>out and nobody or yeah, one out nobody on and

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:32.360
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh my god, are we gonna see this happen?

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:37.359
<v Speaker 5>So I'm extremely pessimistic in those situations all the time.

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:37.840
<v Speaker 6>I am.

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:41.840
<v Speaker 5>I have thought about the worst for nine innings of

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:44.919
<v Speaker 5>that game while I'm there, like it, we bet on

0:41:45.040 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 5>the Dodgers sixth inning. I put two hundred bucks live

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<v Speaker 5>on the Dodgers. As the ja's were up, I was like,

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:55.080
<v Speaker 5>all right, either I'm gonna watch World Series Like it

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 5>never mattered about money. It's like, this is too good

0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 5>of an opportunity to not hedge this, and at least

0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:04.319
<v Speaker 5>if they lose in incredible fashion, I mean, at least

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<v Speaker 5>I can make some money off of this. Right, So,

0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:10.799
<v Speaker 5>I mean I watched that and it's just an absolute nightmares.

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 5>But it's the same thing as the Springer Homer, right,

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:17.239
<v Speaker 5>Like it's obviously different innings, and but it like that

0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:21.200
<v Speaker 5>game seven of the Alcyes, it was just dominated until

0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:23.279
<v Speaker 5>it got into that middle part of the game right

0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:25.719
<v Speaker 5>like that I was sitting there and it's like they're

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:28.480
<v Speaker 5>gonna get killed here, Like this isn't a chance they

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 5>score immediately and like it's over, We're done. So I mean,

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:35.680
<v Speaker 5>I got to watch World Series games as I've never

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 5>done in my life, So I'll take that. But yeah,

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 5>just I think constantly being dunked on is the worst

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 5>part of that, right, It's worse than Actually.

0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh dude, we don't ever hear the end of it

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:50.800
<v Speaker 1>from our world. We don't ever hear the end of

0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:54.160
<v Speaker 1>game seven. Sometimes it's because of us, Sometimes it's because

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:57.120
<v Speaker 1>of people on Twitter, et cetera. Sometimes it's from other

0:42:57.120 --> 0:43:00.879
<v Speaker 1>people in the media. But oh yeah, like it would

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 1>be see you guys probably feel this way now having

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:06.440
<v Speaker 1>it in hindsight, right that, Oh I wish the Dodgers

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 1>had just won seven to three and it was a

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:10.439
<v Speaker 1>normal Dodgers winning Game seven.

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 2>That all right? People just forget about it.

0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 1>It's like when you lose like that, like both our teams,

0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 1>did you never hear the end of it?

0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:18.839
<v Speaker 6>No, no, you don't.

0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:23.880
<v Speaker 5>And I remember so after game seven we did we

0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 5>did a podcast, well we did one where incoherent like

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:29.000
<v Speaker 5>we we went out.

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:30.920
<v Speaker 2>You were out with the players, weren't you.

0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:33.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we ended up seeing some of the players we

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:35.880
<v Speaker 5>went to like their their post game thing. And that

0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:37.920
<v Speaker 5>was free drinks and we took advantage of that. So

0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:41.360
<v Speaker 5>then we recorded. It was four thirty in the morning,

0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:44.680
<v Speaker 5>and it was, I mean, just the worst podcasting anyone's

0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 5>ever done, but like everyone was still pumped, like that's

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:50.879
<v Speaker 5>how everyone felt at that moment. And then the next

0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:52.879
<v Speaker 5>day when we woke up, we actually did one where

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 5>we could we could talk about it and be like,

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:57.120
<v Speaker 5>you know what, get into the World Series is awesome.

0:43:57.120 --> 0:43:59.680
<v Speaker 5>We're gonna get killed right like it's it's not gonna

0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 5>be close. And then yeah, it turned in to be

0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:06.279
<v Speaker 5>as close as you could pretty much possibly get to

0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:10.759
<v Speaker 5>lose that I I'm thankful for it, but yeah, you're right,

0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 5>it's it's brutal, terrible.

0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:15.919
<v Speaker 3>It sounds literally exactly what Lala and I said. It's

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:18.640
<v Speaker 3>like the Mariners need to get these last eight outs

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:21.759
<v Speaker 3>to make it to the World Series and then we're good. Yeah,

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 3>that's it.

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I joked, like, throw your Mickey Mouse parade before the

0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:28.239
<v Speaker 1>World Series even starts, like set it up, coordinate with

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:31.120
<v Speaker 1>the city, do the floats everything, people get to celebrate,

0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:33.080
<v Speaker 1>and then you'll take your elder the Dodgers.

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:35.280
<v Speaker 2>But we didn't get to do it.

0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:38.439
<v Speaker 5>So they the Dodgers played some awful baseball and still

0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:40.279
<v Speaker 5>gotta still gotta ring out of it.

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:40.800
<v Speaker 6>Sweet.

0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:41.720
<v Speaker 2>It's funny.

0:44:41.760 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I thought you guys were actually a way better matchup

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:46.319
<v Speaker 1>for the Dodgers than us, because like, you know this

0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:48.319
<v Speaker 1>way better than we do. But just sitting here talking

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 1>about it, I mean, the Blue Jays just put everything

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:54.239
<v Speaker 1>in play, like they couldn't strike out during that postseason.

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:57.200
<v Speaker 1>The Mariners are so strikeout pro and I was like, oh,

0:44:57.239 --> 0:44:59.279
<v Speaker 1>these Dodgers starters are gonna tear them up if they

0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:01.440
<v Speaker 1>play each other in the World Series, where you guys like,

0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:02.919
<v Speaker 1>it was a decent matchup.

0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:04.040
<v Speaker 6>And it's kind of the same thing that they're dealing

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 6>with right now.

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:06.840
<v Speaker 5>To go back to this year is they're still putting

0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:10.400
<v Speaker 5>the ball in play, but it's the weakest contact possible,

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 5>so they're just getting out. It's the it's the downside

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:15.680
<v Speaker 5>of the contact approach. You're not hitting the ball hard.

0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:17.919
<v Speaker 5>It really doesn't matter that much.

0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 3>Sure, all right, Avery, could you I was curious for

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:25.479
<v Speaker 3>the reference of Mariners fans. Could you walk us through

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 3>the emotions of that ALCS game by game?

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:34.359
<v Speaker 6>Oh, game by game? So the first one was I.

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:36.680
<v Speaker 5>Haven't thought back of that series long time is that

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:37.600
<v Speaker 5>I'll help you out.

0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:40.040
<v Speaker 2>So game that was Bryce Taylor.

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Mariners won, and he really dealt in that game, Like

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I think Springer hit the leadoff homer against him, or

0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:46.719
<v Speaker 1>somebody hit a first inning homer and.

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 3>It was Springer and then and Bryce threw like what

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:54.919
<v Speaker 3>thirty five pitches in the first inning. Yeah, well the bullpen.

0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:56.320
<v Speaker 2>Was toast and then he locked in the rest of

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:57.480
<v Speaker 2>the way. The Mariners won that one.

0:45:57.600 --> 0:45:59.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that was annoying because he wasn't pitching well during

0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 5>that time, right, I mean he's.

0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Been injured all year, so he had not had a

0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:03.279
<v Speaker 2>good year.

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:06.240
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so that was that was tough.

0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:09.200
<v Speaker 5>I remember saying like this is this is the good

0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:11.680
<v Speaker 5>guy to get first, like this should be a good

0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:16.000
<v Speaker 5>spot for the J's And to lose that one was

0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:20.800
<v Speaker 5>was really really tough. I The main thing I remember

0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 5>is how bad the Seattle games were. Like those the

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:27.880
<v Speaker 5>main thing in my mind is the cal Rawly homer

0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:32.360
<v Speaker 5>off Brennan Little. That just it like that was a

0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:35.520
<v Speaker 5>everyone on Twitter John Snader should be fired in the

0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 5>middle of an ALCS run, like they were just ready

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 5>to get rid of the manager. That was the big one,

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:46.360
<v Speaker 5>and it was like the Geno Grand Slam as well,

0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:47.680
<v Speaker 5>like that, that's what it's like.

0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:48.240
<v Speaker 2>It's done.

0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:48.640
<v Speaker 6>Man.

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 5>After after game five, this is over. So we got

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:55.279
<v Speaker 5>in the building for Game six. That was a great

0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:57.440
<v Speaker 5>That was a great game for the Blue Jays, like

0:46:57.520 --> 0:46:59.880
<v Speaker 5>the I remember the Barger home run as well.

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:00.720
<v Speaker 6>That was awesome.

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:05.880
<v Speaker 5>And then game seven we get there and it's Kirby.

0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:07.279
<v Speaker 5>Kirby was game seven right?

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, he cut.

0:47:09.880 --> 0:47:12.880
<v Speaker 5>Them up for five like there they weren't touching, and

0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:15.000
<v Speaker 5>then they started getting the bullpen going.

0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:17.320
<v Speaker 6>It was wu after and.

0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:19.440
<v Speaker 2>I didn't like that move.

0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:24.400
<v Speaker 5>He is he's cruising right now, like he has them dead.

0:47:24.719 --> 0:47:28.000
<v Speaker 5>It's okay Woo who was kind of injured to put

0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:29.160
<v Speaker 5>him in and then he.

0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Couldn't start all postseason because he was battling that injury.

0:47:32.000 --> 0:47:33.720
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, like that changed a lot of things.

0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:36.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I didn't like that move at all. I

0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 5>just like that was that was the wrong one. And

0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:42.640
<v Speaker 5>then so we we kind of switched seats, so we

0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 5>were we were down the first base side for the

0:47:46.239 --> 0:47:48.680
<v Speaker 5>start of the game, and then Josh Shire's wife had

0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:52.279
<v Speaker 5>message us saying there's some seats by us, just come

0:47:52.760 --> 0:47:56.480
<v Speaker 5>hang out. So we walked over to the other side,

0:47:56.560 --> 0:48:01.040
<v Speaker 5>like the family section where everyone was and that was

0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:05.440
<v Speaker 5>the inning, the George Springer homer inning where the single

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:09.520
<v Speaker 5>up the middle, bizarres in and then the George Springer homer.

0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:12.160
<v Speaker 5>So that there's a clip that I post all the time.

0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:15.000
<v Speaker 5>I posted it yesterday. The tweet was the Trump Blue

0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:17.720
<v Speaker 5>did have finally won a game. But that was Johnny

0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:21.720
<v Speaker 5>and I on the broadcast celebrating after the George Springer

0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:25.560
<v Speaker 5>three run homer, and I think it was just no

0:48:25.600 --> 0:48:27.520
<v Speaker 5>one could believe that it happened. It was the loudest

0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:29.759
<v Speaker 5>thing I've ever heard that I just you couldn't even

0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:30.320
<v Speaker 5>hear anything.

0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:31.080
<v Speaker 6>It was so loud.

0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:35.160
<v Speaker 5>And George Springer's dad was beside us, just freaking out.

0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:39.239
<v Speaker 5>He's the coolest guy ever. I think it was just

0:48:39.320 --> 0:48:42.239
<v Speaker 5>kind of unbelievable. And the thing that was really bad

0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:47.399
<v Speaker 5>was the Mariner swings off Chris Bassett to come in

0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:51.360
<v Speaker 5>in the eighth. Come in, yeah, because they scored in seventh,

0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:53.799
<v Speaker 5>and then come in the eighth where they were gonna

0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 5>throw Bassett, but now they have the lead, and it

0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:58.000
<v Speaker 5>was so quick that you couldn't.

0:48:57.680 --> 0:48:58.600
<v Speaker 6>Get anyone else warm.

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:01.439
<v Speaker 5>So you're throwing Chris Bassett again in the eighth and

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:04.560
<v Speaker 5>whoever let Off hit a grounder to short on the

0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:07.960
<v Speaker 5>first pitch, and I was like, that's the wrongs. That's

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:11.120
<v Speaker 5>where you lost it right there. I think was as

0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:13.759
<v Speaker 5>soon as the first pitch ground out to short on

0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:16.680
<v Speaker 5>Chris pass is like, that's that's not the approach we're

0:49:16.680 --> 0:49:19.239
<v Speaker 5>going for here, if we're trying to get back in

0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:22.600
<v Speaker 5>this game. And Hoffman to end it, I mean, it was.

0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:26.279
<v Speaker 6>It was great. It was best game I've been to

0:49:26.400 --> 0:49:26.880
<v Speaker 6>in a while.

0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:29.720
<v Speaker 1>All Right, So let me say this still two things

0:49:29.840 --> 0:49:31.640
<v Speaker 1>first off, and maybe we can get into this in

0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:32.400
<v Speaker 1>a couple of minutes.

0:49:32.440 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, one, we wrap this up.

0:49:34.239 --> 0:49:36.799
<v Speaker 1>But the fact you guys are so tied in with

0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:39.399
<v Speaker 1>people like that like John Schneider's wife and a bunch

0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:42.040
<v Speaker 1>of the parents, like it's crazy. Like what you guys

0:49:42.040 --> 0:49:44.360
<v Speaker 1>have built is absolutely nuts, and I do want to

0:49:44.680 --> 0:49:47.080
<v Speaker 1>ask a couple things about it. But before we totally

0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:50.279
<v Speaker 1>get off this ALCS thing, I do have to ask

0:49:50.320 --> 0:49:51.960
<v Speaker 1>you guys, for the sake of Mariners fans, for the

0:49:52.000 --> 0:49:54.239
<v Speaker 1>sake of us, because this is what's been talked about

0:49:54.280 --> 0:49:56.919
<v Speaker 1>NonStop in our world. You were mentioning Blue Jays fans

0:49:56.960 --> 0:49:59.960
<v Speaker 1>being pissed about what happened with the usage of Brenda

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Little in game five.

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Were you and Johnny just two on Cloud.

0:50:04.160 --> 0:50:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Nine to talk about anything else other than Blue Jays

0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:08.680
<v Speaker 1>are going to the World Series or did you guys

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:12.160
<v Speaker 1>talk about the Springer matchup at all? Because I'm not

0:50:12.200 --> 0:50:14.400
<v Speaker 1>going to subject you to our whole thunderdome. We have

0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:16.640
<v Speaker 1>been very clear the Mariners have had a serious manager

0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:19.920
<v Speaker 1>problem for a long time, and nothing highlighted that more

0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:22.719
<v Speaker 1>than what happened in Game seven. Because let me let

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:24.640
<v Speaker 1>me prevace it. The Blue Jays were a better team.

0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:26.960
<v Speaker 1>They deserved every part of that ALCS. They deserve to

0:50:26.960 --> 0:50:29.640
<v Speaker 1>go to the World Series. But my god, man, the

0:50:29.680 --> 0:50:33.200
<v Speaker 1>fact that Muno's was not into face Springer is a

0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:35.680
<v Speaker 1>just it's beyond a disaster.

0:50:36.239 --> 0:50:39.200
<v Speaker 5>And if you talk about NonStop, it wasn't talked about

0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:40.319
<v Speaker 5>pretty much at all.

0:50:40.719 --> 0:50:41.040
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh.

0:50:41.200 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 5>It was kind of like, oh, that was really dumb.

0:50:43.160 --> 0:50:47.759
<v Speaker 5>But did you see that bomb that George Springer hit? Go, yeah,

0:50:47.800 --> 0:50:50.080
<v Speaker 5>we'll take it right. It was Yeah, I don't think

0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:54.000
<v Speaker 5>it was really touched upon by by anyone. But like,

0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:55.680
<v Speaker 5>as you go back and look at is you know

0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:58.560
<v Speaker 5>what I really wouldn't have liked Munno's in that situation.

0:50:58.560 --> 0:51:01.120
<v Speaker 5>If I was a Blue Jays fan like that first

0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:04.239
<v Speaker 5>two guys on, yeah, that's exactly right.

0:51:04.680 --> 0:51:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Crazy. Yeah, I mean, I don't blame you.

0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:08.800
<v Speaker 1>If we had been in your spot, I don't know

0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:10.239
<v Speaker 1>if we would have been talking about a whole ton

0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:10.960
<v Speaker 1>of bullpen.

0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Usage either, So I get it.

0:51:11.960 --> 0:51:14.680
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, just in our world, this is what's been

0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:17.680
<v Speaker 1>talked about NonStop for every good reason. So I was

0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:20.160
<v Speaker 1>just curious of Yeah, Blue Jay's fans had thought about

0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 1>it much. I don't blame you for not, but yeah,

0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:24.439
<v Speaker 1>wild game.

0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:25.040
<v Speaker 2>I will say.

0:51:25.080 --> 0:51:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I know this is gonna break Marinis fans heart because

0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:30.000
<v Speaker 1>George Springer and hearing the name is basically PTSD for

0:51:30.040 --> 0:51:33.360
<v Speaker 1>people at this point. But he is like the nicest

0:51:33.440 --> 0:51:35.040
<v Speaker 1>dude ever TJ and I've gotten to talk to him

0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:37.640
<v Speaker 1>once or twice. He really is incredibly nice. It breaks

0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:38.719
<v Speaker 1>my heart to say, but he is.

0:51:39.200 --> 0:51:39.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:41.840
<v Speaker 5>When we got to do the Bud the Budweiser commercial

0:51:41.880 --> 0:51:43.719
<v Speaker 5>with him a couple of weeks ago, he was the

0:51:43.800 --> 0:51:46.279
<v Speaker 5>nicest guy. That was the first time we had we

0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:50.160
<v Speaker 5>had met him since the ALCS night. But yeah, he's great.

0:51:50.239 --> 0:51:52.919
<v Speaker 5>I know the al West connection there and then huh,

0:51:53.000 --> 0:51:55.520
<v Speaker 5>that home is not really great for you guys.

0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:58.759
<v Speaker 6>But for sure one of the nicer guys that that

0:51:58.800 --> 0:51:59.320
<v Speaker 6>we had.

0:51:59.160 --> 0:52:03.840
<v Speaker 3>Met was that, well you mentioning you guys doing that commercial.

0:52:03.840 --> 0:52:05.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that is one of the coolest things I've

0:52:05.640 --> 0:52:10.080
<v Speaker 3>seen that in the new age of content, like a

0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:13.600
<v Speaker 3>Toronto Blue Jays podcast gets to do a Budweiser commercial

0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 3>with George Springer say that sentence out loud.

0:52:17.320 --> 0:52:18.040
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's cool.

0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:21.480
<v Speaker 5>So we're lucky that Budweisers are presenting sponsor and there

0:52:22.200 --> 0:52:24.840
<v Speaker 5>George Springer is the face of Budweiser zero, so it

0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:26.719
<v Speaker 5>matched up perfectly.

0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:28.560
<v Speaker 6>He didn't really know who we were.

0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:31.160
<v Speaker 5>He might have known, but he was one of the

0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:33.759
<v Speaker 5>guys we've pretty much never talked to, and he was

0:52:34.280 --> 0:52:36.680
<v Speaker 5>he had an hour's worth of stuff to do, so

0:52:36.719 --> 0:52:40.560
<v Speaker 5>we were just kinda together. We were making fun of

0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:43.040
<v Speaker 5>how many attempts we had to do at this ten

0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:45.960
<v Speaker 5>second commercial we were about to do. So that's that

0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:48.480
<v Speaker 5>was our bonding, like, oh this it didn't suck, but

0:52:49.520 --> 0:52:51.600
<v Speaker 5>he knew that hour was gonna suck, so we just

0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:53.960
<v Speaker 5>kind of played entries like oh, not good enough for

0:52:54.000 --> 0:52:56.319
<v Speaker 5>you guys, I and he liked that.

0:52:56.320 --> 0:52:58.880
<v Speaker 6>That's how we that's how we got to him.

0:52:59.120 --> 0:52:59.959
<v Speaker 2>That is really cool.

0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I will say for those who don't know,

0:53:03.680 --> 0:53:06.799
<v Speaker 1>it's not a perfect comparison, but getting to know you

0:53:06.840 --> 0:53:08.799
<v Speaker 1>and Johnny a little bit just through content and getting

0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:13.399
<v Speaker 1>to meet you guys out in Seattle last year, there's

0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:16.080
<v Speaker 1>some similarities. I always like to say between our podcasts,

0:53:16.120 --> 0:53:18.160
<v Speaker 1>it's no carbon copy by any means, but just like,

0:53:18.440 --> 0:53:21.280
<v Speaker 1>you guys are very much the podcast for Blue Jays fans,

0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:22.960
<v Speaker 1>and we like to think of ourselves as the same

0:53:22.960 --> 0:53:25.880
<v Speaker 1>way for Mariners fans. And even the dynamic on the

0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:28.319
<v Speaker 1>pod I think has some similarities. Like I think you

0:53:28.400 --> 0:53:30.879
<v Speaker 1>Avery and TJ kind of share the similar role where

0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:32.400
<v Speaker 1>you have to be a little bit more of the

0:53:32.520 --> 0:53:35.600
<v Speaker 1>like calm presence, the voice of reasons sometimes and then

0:53:35.680 --> 0:53:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Johnny and I are usually the loose cannons at like

0:53:38.280 --> 0:53:40.080
<v Speaker 1>because I go off about things all the time and

0:53:40.080 --> 0:53:43.239
<v Speaker 1>I know Johnny certainly does. But like to see you

0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:47.239
<v Speaker 1>guys do essentially that just love your own team, talk

0:53:47.280 --> 0:53:49.360
<v Speaker 1>about it where now you're in a place where for

0:53:49.400 --> 0:53:51.200
<v Speaker 1>those who don't know that are Mariners fans, I mean

0:53:51.640 --> 0:53:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Avery just mentioned it. They did a commercial with George

0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:56.279
<v Speaker 1>Springer you're really really tight with a lot of the

0:53:56.280 --> 0:54:00.760
<v Speaker 1>players and coaches and the families. You're I mean, Vladdie

0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:03.719
<v Speaker 1>was wearing your guys' shirt just a couple of weeks ago. Like,

0:54:03.800 --> 0:54:05.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not normal to do what you guys have done.

0:54:05.640 --> 0:54:07.440
<v Speaker 1>It's like a team based podcast and you guys are

0:54:07.440 --> 0:54:07.799
<v Speaker 1>doing it.

0:54:08.360 --> 0:54:10.920
<v Speaker 5>I appreciate it. Yeah, we never I never see it

0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:13.120
<v Speaker 5>that way. It's like, oh, that's kind of cool. It's

0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:15.759
<v Speaker 5>fun for right now, but yeah, lucky to be able

0:54:15.800 --> 0:54:20.000
<v Speaker 5>to do it as a full time job now. But yes,

0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:24.080
<v Speaker 5>the people who watch our show hate that stuff. People

0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:27.319
<v Speaker 5>will say it's cool from the outside, but then they're like, ah,

0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:31.040
<v Speaker 5>you guys are whenever we criticize in a way, and

0:54:31.120 --> 0:54:35.880
<v Speaker 5>it's it's never enough criticism for people. Where so we

0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:38.440
<v Speaker 5>would start it was it was bad at the start,

0:54:38.520 --> 0:54:40.160
<v Speaker 5>right when we didn't know anyone and you can just

0:54:40.200 --> 0:54:43.080
<v Speaker 5>talk and we didn't think anything would ever get back

0:54:43.080 --> 0:54:44.680
<v Speaker 5>to us because we never thought it would be big.

0:54:44.719 --> 0:54:46.600
<v Speaker 6>We were just kind of doing it for fun.

0:54:46.640 --> 0:54:48.920
<v Speaker 5>When we started just saying all that guy should be

0:54:49.120 --> 0:54:52.279
<v Speaker 5>Dfad sent to hell, like the We would say mean

0:54:52.400 --> 0:54:54.600
<v Speaker 5>things that were outraged and that's how kind of we

0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:57.040
<v Speaker 5>got the notoriety at the start. Then you start to

0:54:57.040 --> 0:54:58.960
<v Speaker 5>meet the people. They're nice guys, and you're like, you

0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:00.959
<v Speaker 5>know what, I don't I think you should be sent

0:55:01.000 --> 0:55:03.560
<v Speaker 5>to hell because you're playing bad baseball. Like you're playing

0:55:03.560 --> 0:55:05.960
<v Speaker 5>bad baseball, but you're a nice guy. So I'm gonna

0:55:06.920 --> 0:55:09.720
<v Speaker 5>naturally as time comes, we're gonna be a little nicer

0:55:09.719 --> 0:55:11.759
<v Speaker 5>to the people. And they hate that were nice to

0:55:11.800 --> 0:55:13.960
<v Speaker 5>them now, like they like, they're just your buddies. You

0:55:13.960 --> 0:55:16.680
<v Speaker 5>can't say anything mean to them anymore. Like just try

0:55:16.680 --> 0:55:18.279
<v Speaker 5>and listen to it a little. That Twitter is the

0:55:18.320 --> 0:55:21.359
<v Speaker 5>worst part of it. Like I don't I don't really

0:55:21.480 --> 0:55:24.560
<v Speaker 5>use my Twitter to criticize people too much. Like it's

0:55:25.080 --> 0:55:28.280
<v Speaker 5>I'd rather shout the good things and the bad things.

0:55:28.280 --> 0:55:31.400
<v Speaker 5>That's just how I go about life. And then people say, oh,

0:55:31.440 --> 0:55:33.440
<v Speaker 5>where's your tweets about this? It's like we have a

0:55:33.440 --> 0:55:36.760
<v Speaker 5>long form show where we give our real thoughts over

0:55:36.800 --> 0:55:38.799
<v Speaker 5>that amount of time. I like my Twitter to be

0:55:38.840 --> 0:55:40.640
<v Speaker 5>curated how I want to feel, so I don't want

0:55:40.640 --> 0:55:43.360
<v Speaker 5>to be spewing hate all the time in all my comments.

0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:47.480
<v Speaker 5>Johnny has curated his Twitter to strictly spew hate, and

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:50.880
<v Speaker 5>he hates his comment section so it's like, oh, you're

0:55:50.960 --> 0:55:53.600
<v Speaker 5>kind of doing that to yourself, right, Like I'm I'm

0:55:53.680 --> 0:55:57.640
<v Speaker 5>trying to avoid that at all costs and just keep

0:55:57.680 --> 0:55:58.400
<v Speaker 5>it to myself.

0:55:58.480 --> 0:56:00.320
<v Speaker 6>If you don't have anything good to say, try and

0:56:00.400 --> 0:56:01.320
<v Speaker 6>keep it to myself.

0:56:02.080 --> 0:56:04.560
<v Speaker 3>I feel like you guys still do criticize like a

0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:07.680
<v Speaker 3>decent amount, but it's like it's totally fair criticism that

0:56:08.320 --> 0:56:10.840
<v Speaker 3>doesn't in at least from what we can see on

0:56:10.880 --> 0:56:14.400
<v Speaker 3>the outside, likes seems to piss off any either players

0:56:14.480 --> 0:56:17.359
<v Speaker 3>or executives within the Blue Jays. Like Mark Schapira loves

0:56:17.400 --> 0:56:19.239
<v Speaker 3>you guys. He gives into the team.

0:56:19.320 --> 0:56:21.080
<v Speaker 6>He gave me an engagement gift last week.

0:56:21.800 --> 0:56:23.080
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy he did.

0:56:23.520 --> 0:56:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay, let me tell you what before you continue that story,

0:56:26.200 --> 0:56:28.920
<v Speaker 1>let me promise you this not only is Jerry Depoto

0:56:29.320 --> 0:56:32.040
<v Speaker 1>never ever getting DJ and I an engagement gift. I

0:56:32.040 --> 0:56:34.480
<v Speaker 1>don't think he's coming on the show anytime soon. Yeah,

0:56:34.520 --> 0:56:37.480
<v Speaker 1>so he's but he's like, you guys are baseball guys.

0:56:37.520 --> 0:56:40.680
<v Speaker 1>So we played bait college baseball in America, which gave

0:56:40.760 --> 0:56:43.600
<v Speaker 1>us like we were both bad right, Like Johnny two

0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:45.600
<v Speaker 1>years of junior college, I was two years of a

0:56:45.640 --> 0:56:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Division two left handed slot pitcher, like in Canada. That's

0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:53.279
<v Speaker 1>we had a little bit of pulls the wrong thing,

0:56:53.320 --> 0:56:55.880
<v Speaker 1>but we had played baseball at a high enough level

0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:58.880
<v Speaker 1>where people cared at the start.

0:56:58.920 --> 0:56:59.840
<v Speaker 6>Now they don't care that.

0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:02.600
<v Speaker 5>I mean, we're ten years removed from playing college base

0:57:02.960 --> 0:57:05.320
<v Speaker 5>No one cares. So Mark's like, you guys like baseball,

0:57:05.680 --> 0:57:09.040
<v Speaker 5>you like the team, You're fair to us. It's like,

0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:11.960
<v Speaker 5>I don't know why I wouldn't try and embrace you

0:57:12.000 --> 0:57:14.719
<v Speaker 5>guys at least and like kind of help out. So

0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:16.480
<v Speaker 5>he he's great, Like I don't.

0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:18.200
<v Speaker 2>For him.

0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:21.200
<v Speaker 5>In like ownership, I'd never seen the problems like it

0:57:21.280 --> 0:57:25.920
<v Speaker 5>was always a Ross Atkins team building thing where that's

0:57:26.000 --> 0:57:29.760
<v Speaker 5>where the problem lied for me. If anything was team building,

0:57:29.760 --> 0:57:32.240
<v Speaker 5>and again it's yeah, you could move on after the

0:57:32.240 --> 0:57:35.080
<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty four season. We all would have been okay

0:57:35.160 --> 0:57:37.800
<v Speaker 5>with that, right, But it was never Yeah, we just

0:57:37.800 --> 0:57:41.200
<v Speaker 5>don't attack as hard as people want. And I think

0:57:41.240 --> 0:57:43.280
<v Speaker 5>the people on the team are fine with how we

0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:45.800
<v Speaker 5>deal with them. So if we lose the access to

0:57:45.840 --> 0:57:49.200
<v Speaker 5>the team, then I think people would still listen to us.

0:57:49.240 --> 0:57:52.080
<v Speaker 5>But there's a lot less cool things you can do

0:57:52.160 --> 0:57:55.720
<v Speaker 5>if you're constantly ripping on the team that has good ownership.

0:57:56.080 --> 0:57:58.920
<v Speaker 5>For the most part, good upper management, like there's not

0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:01.480
<v Speaker 5>too much to to deal with, and then we're in

0:58:01.480 --> 0:58:04.160
<v Speaker 5>the middle of everyone wants John Schneider fired because the

0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:07.400
<v Speaker 5>team's kind of bad, and that's like, who are we

0:58:07.440 --> 0:58:10.760
<v Speaker 5>gonna get right now and who's gonna be different? They said, well,

0:58:10.800 --> 0:58:12.960
<v Speaker 5>he puts George Spring in the leadoff spot every day,

0:58:13.000 --> 0:58:15.680
<v Speaker 5>so he's he's a moron, he's an idiot. It's like, yeah,

0:58:15.760 --> 0:58:18.360
<v Speaker 5>he probably should be moved at some point, but I

0:58:18.440 --> 0:58:21.280
<v Speaker 5>don't think if he's moved and he stinks again, he

0:58:21.320 --> 0:58:23.680
<v Speaker 5>stops playing. You just have a different manager and all

0:58:23.720 --> 0:58:26.360
<v Speaker 5>the same surrounding parts for this part of the season.

0:58:26.400 --> 0:58:28.760
<v Speaker 5>I don't think it's gonna gonna change too much.

0:58:29.520 --> 0:58:32.080
<v Speaker 3>And i'd guess that John Schneider is another one of

0:58:32.080 --> 0:58:34.560
<v Speaker 3>those guys who like understands like the role you guys

0:58:34.640 --> 0:58:37.000
<v Speaker 3>have for for Blue Jays fans, because you guys are

0:58:37.160 --> 0:58:41.080
<v Speaker 3>decently tight with John Schneider, so you can't, like, like,

0:58:41.240 --> 0:58:43.880
<v Speaker 3>you can still talk about the situation fairly and he's

0:58:43.920 --> 0:58:44.680
<v Speaker 3>not gonna hate.

0:58:44.520 --> 0:58:45.000
<v Speaker 2>You for it.

0:58:45.560 --> 0:58:47.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, no one thinks we talk about it fairly

0:58:48.120 --> 0:58:51.480
<v Speaker 5>And that's fine, right, It's it's through Twitter, it's it's

0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:54.760
<v Speaker 5>the part we deal with and I think you'll always

0:58:54.800 --> 0:58:57.720
<v Speaker 5>try and be try and be numbers based in your

0:58:57.720 --> 0:59:01.000
<v Speaker 5>evaluations of how things are going and managers. There's no

0:59:01.120 --> 0:59:04.760
<v Speaker 5>stats on fan grafts and baseball spoting for managers, so

0:59:04.760 --> 0:59:08.400
<v Speaker 5>everyone's just like, oh, this guy sucks, can't win with them,

0:59:08.440 --> 0:59:11.360
<v Speaker 5>and there's nothing you can say differently that. There's no

0:59:11.520 --> 0:59:15.240
<v Speaker 5>numbers based things that you can say for people to

0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:17.920
<v Speaker 5>say that they're a good manager or not. So I'm

0:59:18.000 --> 0:59:20.880
<v Speaker 5>just like, oh, he sucks, he's incompetent. They they can't

0:59:21.120 --> 0:59:23.720
<v Speaker 5>can't have them all right, Like I don't. I don't

0:59:23.760 --> 0:59:26.560
<v Speaker 5>think that's the case. But if they were playing bad,

0:59:27.400 --> 0:59:29.880
<v Speaker 5>coaches take more of the blame first and then the players.

0:59:29.920 --> 0:59:32.800
<v Speaker 5>So that's just the spot they're at. They're trying to

0:59:32.840 --> 0:59:33.400
<v Speaker 5>figure it out.

0:59:33.840 --> 0:59:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Sure, I will ask as we start to wrap this

0:59:37.560 --> 0:59:39.960
<v Speaker 1>thing up. And again I do think it's all very

0:59:40.040 --> 0:59:41.720
<v Speaker 1>very cool what you guys have built. And by the way,

0:59:41.800 --> 0:59:45.240
<v Speaker 1>Blue Jays and and Canada people are very tuned in

0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:47.160
<v Speaker 1>on their baseball. Like the views you guys get for

0:59:47.200 --> 0:59:51.440
<v Speaker 1>being a team podcast is nuts, Like, yeah, people are locked.

0:59:51.200 --> 0:59:53.080
<v Speaker 5>In, man, Yeah, it's good when they win and it's

0:59:53.120 --> 0:59:55.440
<v Speaker 5>really bad when they lose, right, just like I'm talking

0:59:55.840 --> 0:59:59.240
<v Speaker 5>talking to just me and Johnny when they lose pretty much, but.

1:00:00.000 --> 1:00:00.760
<v Speaker 2>That is totally fair.

1:00:00.800 --> 1:00:02.439
<v Speaker 1>But by the way, let me let me say this too.

1:00:02.720 --> 1:00:05.360
<v Speaker 1>You were mentioning your guys time playing college baseball. Of

1:00:05.440 --> 1:00:07.680
<v Speaker 1>all the things, Johnny tweets out and I think it's

1:00:07.720 --> 1:00:11.960
<v Speaker 1>twitter hilarious. The McCook Community College street shots he'll tweet

1:00:11.960 --> 1:00:14.160
<v Speaker 1>when somebody's playing bad of himself, I think are the

1:00:14.200 --> 1:00:16.160
<v Speaker 1>most hilarious thing ever. I don't know why in the

1:00:16.200 --> 1:00:19.080
<v Speaker 1>world is somebody who grew up in the suburbs of Seattle.

1:00:19.360 --> 1:00:22.360
<v Speaker 1>I now know what McCook Community College is, but it's

1:00:22.440 --> 1:00:23.320
<v Speaker 1>hilarious that I do.

1:00:23.640 --> 1:00:27.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's one eighty five average his sophomore year and

1:00:27.040 --> 1:00:29.400
<v Speaker 5>it would bat Juco in Nebraska.

1:00:29.560 --> 1:00:31.360
<v Speaker 6>That's we always so.

1:00:31.320 --> 1:00:36.040
<v Speaker 5>George Springer was playing poorly two years ago twenty four

1:00:36.080 --> 1:00:38.800
<v Speaker 5>when they when they stunk. We did the june To

1:00:38.840 --> 1:00:44.120
<v Speaker 5>line where Johnny stats against George Springers were pretty similar.

1:00:44.600 --> 1:00:45.360
<v Speaker 6>Like that's bad.

1:00:45.400 --> 1:00:48.080
<v Speaker 5>Like if you match up with bad Johnny june To stats,

1:00:48.200 --> 1:00:50.800
<v Speaker 5>that's that's never good. So you never want to be

1:00:51.480 --> 1:00:54.680
<v Speaker 5>towing the june To line. That's one eighty five there's.

1:00:54.520 --> 1:00:56.400
<v Speaker 2>The Mendoza line, and then there's a June to line out.

1:00:56.480 --> 1:00:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Where's the June to line? Yeah, last thing before we

1:00:59.720 --> 1:01:02.960
<v Speaker 1>wrap this up. You got a serious prediction for the weekend.

1:01:03.560 --> 1:01:04.280
<v Speaker 1>How it's gonna fly?

1:01:04.640 --> 1:01:05.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

1:01:05.280 --> 1:01:07.920
<v Speaker 5>So last year didn't count as like a real Mariner

1:01:07.960 --> 1:01:10.840
<v Speaker 5>series because it was too early in the year, right,

1:01:10.880 --> 1:01:17.040
<v Speaker 5>like usually the T mobile trip is this part of

1:01:17.080 --> 1:01:21.520
<v Speaker 5>the year, right like Canadaday, fourth of July. Everyone's down there,

1:01:21.560 --> 1:01:24.480
<v Speaker 5>kids are off of school so they can travel, and

1:01:24.520 --> 1:01:26.760
<v Speaker 5>then it's a nightmare, right Like, the trip's usually a

1:01:26.880 --> 1:01:29.560
<v Speaker 5>nightmare for the Blue Jays. So that's why we were

1:01:29.600 --> 1:01:32.280
<v Speaker 5>reluctant to go last year. It's like, you know what,

1:01:32.840 --> 1:01:36.080
<v Speaker 5>they play terribly in Seattle, so I don't know if

1:01:36.120 --> 1:01:41.240
<v Speaker 5>I want to travel cross country to go to it. Man,

1:01:41.280 --> 1:01:43.280
<v Speaker 5>and it's all right, I mean all the Mariner starters

1:01:43.280 --> 1:01:47.480
<v Speaker 5>are Riadies, right, so yeah, you don't get Patrick Corbyn,

1:01:47.560 --> 1:01:49.240
<v Speaker 5>which is good for us.

1:01:49.960 --> 1:01:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Actually it's bad because the Mariners are the worst team

1:01:52.480 --> 1:01:53.959
<v Speaker 1>in baseball against lefties.

1:01:53.720 --> 1:01:56.440
<v Speaker 2>No joke, really yeah, the worst. No.

1:01:56.680 --> 1:01:59.560
<v Speaker 6>I mean, Patrick Corbyn will fix that. He could, he

1:01:59.600 --> 1:02:00.840
<v Speaker 6>could have definitely fix that.

1:02:01.360 --> 1:02:03.760
<v Speaker 1>See our counter is the Mariners will fix Patrick Corporan.

1:02:03.840 --> 1:02:05.680
<v Speaker 1>This is what happens when you're tied into your team

1:02:05.760 --> 1:02:06.360
<v Speaker 1>this tightly.

1:02:06.400 --> 1:02:09.800
<v Speaker 5>Every Yeah, okay, I'm gonna go through. What are the

1:02:09.960 --> 1:02:13.240
<v Speaker 5>Jay's matchups? They got ce Se Bieber, you savage, that's

1:02:13.240 --> 1:02:16.040
<v Speaker 5>pretty good for us. Yeah, but the way the Jays

1:02:16.040 --> 1:02:18.480
<v Speaker 5>are playing, I'm saying it's two one Mariners.

1:02:19.040 --> 1:02:19.800
<v Speaker 6>Gotta go with that.

1:02:20.960 --> 1:02:22.560
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say two one Blue Jays. So that

1:02:22.600 --> 1:02:23.320
<v Speaker 1>about checks out.

1:02:23.320 --> 1:02:26.200
<v Speaker 3>What do you got to we're recording here on Tuesday.

1:02:26.240 --> 1:02:28.120
<v Speaker 3>I would say it depends on the outcome of the

1:02:28.160 --> 1:02:30.800
<v Speaker 3>Angels series, either tonight or Thursday. If they win one

1:02:30.800 --> 1:02:32.400
<v Speaker 3>of those games, then the Blue Jays are winning two

1:02:32.440 --> 1:02:34.560
<v Speaker 3>or Three's.

1:02:33.600 --> 1:02:35.760
<v Speaker 6>Going on with a Wednesday off day? Is that real?

1:02:36.400 --> 1:02:37.000
<v Speaker 3>World Cup?

1:02:37.120 --> 1:02:37.640
<v Speaker 2>World Cup?

1:02:38.760 --> 1:02:40.760
<v Speaker 3>Woke non stadium for right next to each other?

1:02:40.920 --> 1:02:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you said, you say woke nonsense? Is that good?

1:02:44.360 --> 1:02:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Although wait to Canada winner. They lose, they won, didn't

1:02:47.400 --> 1:02:50.320
<v Speaker 2>they know they won? Yeah? Yeah, but you're you still

1:02:50.360 --> 1:02:50.760
<v Speaker 2>don't care?

1:02:51.400 --> 1:02:52.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, you can't be having off days in

1:02:52.960 --> 1:02:55.000
<v Speaker 5>the middle of a series. That's just not real. That's

1:02:55.000 --> 1:02:55.680
<v Speaker 5>not baseball.

1:02:56.320 --> 1:02:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's not It's a little while they almost

1:02:59.480 --> 1:03:01.880
<v Speaker 1>played like a header against the Red Sox this year

1:03:02.680 --> 1:03:04.920
<v Speaker 1>and had like a Friday off day because there was

1:03:04.960 --> 1:03:05.480
<v Speaker 1>a World.

1:03:05.280 --> 1:03:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Cup game and then they switched it.

1:03:07.000 --> 1:03:10.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's that's only okay in the Cold Cities first

1:03:10.360 --> 1:03:11.080
<v Speaker 5>week of the year.

1:03:11.360 --> 1:03:13.720
<v Speaker 6>Other than that, not allowed in my books.

1:03:14.520 --> 1:03:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Fair, totally fair dude, Avery, This has been really fun.

1:03:17.960 --> 1:03:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we love what you guys do. We always

1:03:20.080 --> 1:03:21.440
<v Speaker 1>love catching up with you guys when we get the

1:03:21.480 --> 1:03:24.600
<v Speaker 1>chance to do so, So keep killing it and hopefully

1:03:24.640 --> 1:03:25.720
<v Speaker 1>we'll see you guys down the road.

1:03:25.880 --> 1:03:30.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, appreciate it. Thanks fellows, Well.

1:03:30.440 --> 1:03:32.600
<v Speaker 1>That was really fun. Shout out to Avery for hopping

1:03:32.640 --> 1:03:35.240
<v Speaker 1>on with us first time guests. We had Johnny on

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<v Speaker 1>with us a couple of years ago. I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>now we got to have Avery on again. We've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>to know both of them a little bit, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is certainly fun to see those guys do what they've

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<v Speaker 1>done and see another team based podcast just absolutely thrive.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they are really really resonating throughout all of

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<v Speaker 1>Canada and just to see them do what they've done

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<v Speaker 1>is awesome for them and it's been fun to watch

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<v Speaker 1>from our end, and we got to rehab a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things and preview a series that well, Avery seems

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<v Speaker 1>to think is all gonna go our way and we

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<v Speaker 1>seem to think is all gonna go his way, which

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<v Speaker 1>is about par for the course with our two podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>So who's gonna end up being the one that's right?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll wait till the end of the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>to find out. But again, that was really fun. Shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to Avery for coming on with us. And with that,

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<v Speaker 1>that'll just about wrap up this edition of the Marine

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<v Speaker 1>Layer Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>That's TJ. I'm Lyle as always be thank you guys

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