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Speaker 1: for years writing and I loved it and I just

429
00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,040
Speaker 1: love the people, and Jason and Nelly really helped introduce

430
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,040
Speaker 1: us to a lot of friends that helped Nashville feel

431
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,160
Speaker 1: like home. Does it feel like home now? For sure?

432
00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I still miss California and I still

433
00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,840
Speaker 1: plan on living there at some point. But I love

434
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,400
Speaker 1: it here and it's beautiful. There is no beach here.

435
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,720
Speaker 1: There's no beach. Is that what you missed the most?

436
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,920
Speaker 1: Or what I missed the weather like today? Did you

437
00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 1: get to enjoy today? I don't know what. That's all

438
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,159
Speaker 1: I do. I know I was actually gonna say I

439
00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,560
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you about that. How do you

440
00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 1: walk up? Because I mean everything that you do, you

441
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,879
Speaker 1: do so many different things. But I'm why I do everything. No,

442
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 1: that's the real reason. If I had like an amazing

443
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 1: skill and a skill I could craft as yourself, I

444
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,159
Speaker 1: would probably focus on just that. But I don't. But

445
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 1: you have ling have a million skills in crafts. No. No,

446
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 1: I'm hustling in like ninety areas or I'm not particularly

447
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 1: great in any of them. I think that's how we

448
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,639
Speaker 1: all feel about ourselves. So you don't feel like that. No,

449
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people do, and I think

450
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 1: that I want to do more than singing and writing.

451
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,879
Speaker 1: But I also know that this is something that I've

452
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 1: done for so long, so it's kind of all, you know,

453
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 1: But I do want a branch. I don't. I don't

454
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,679
Speaker 1: want to act or do things like that, but I

455
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 1: think that there's I just think it's amazing because you do.

456
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 1: I'm scared to do more. I don't think I could

457
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 1: balance more, but I see you do it and it's impressive.

458
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 1: Like we all look at you and we're like, dude,

459
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 1: how do you do all the things that you do?

460
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 1: And you seem like you enjoy it, and I hope

461
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 1: that you do enjoy it, But it's amazing that you

462
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,199
Speaker 1: can balance all of that. Well, that's very kind of

463
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,480
Speaker 1: you to say. But in on this note that don't

464
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 1: feel comfortable people's sake compliments take it all back? Yeah,

465
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 1: I feel good. That's great. Yeah, I think I do

466
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 1: it because I don't. I feel like if I ever stop,

467
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 1: it all goes away. And I do have a bit

468
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 1: of and who doesn't have it, you know? Imposters exactly

469
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 1: or I really am like man when they figured out

470
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 1: I'm only not that good, it's all gone. Why do

471
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 1: we all think that? But if we didn't think that

472
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,719
Speaker 1: would we'd be as driven as we are too. So

473
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 1: I think I've been. I'm grateful for it. I'm and

474
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,159
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time with therapy, Hey a lot.

475
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 1: I think every single human beings should be in therapy.

476
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: You get to just they help you. They ask questions

477
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,920
Speaker 1: that you don't think that you don't even know you need,

478
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,199
Speaker 1: asked to help figure out something that somehow in your

479
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 1: childhood you it messed you up or whatever is happening

480
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 1: now in life. So my therapist now is um a

481
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 1: relationship therapist. She doesn't that's what she focuses on. And

482
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 1: she only has couples except for me. I go on

483
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 1: by myself. I started like six or seven months ago

484
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,479
Speaker 1: because I was like I need help. Ye. I was like,

485
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 1: whatever I'm doing, I've got everything else, Like I know

486
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 1: how to set a goal and then go achieve it

487
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: and sometimes it's harder than others. But I said, but

488
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: in the relationship world, in just in a personal period,

489
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: interpersonal I am not good, not great with people unless

490
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 1: it's a microphone in front of me or I'm on

491
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 1: a stage doing comedy. I'm awkward. All right, what are

492
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: you introverted? Or extremely when it's not extrovert time. I

493
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 1: could not be more introverted, which is why I didn't

494
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: say how do you on the airplane. I was like,

495
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 1: there's no way you wants to talk to me. I've

496
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,919
Speaker 1: been I've been, you know, roasting or on Instagram in

497
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 1: a funny way obviously, but I was like, there's no

498
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: way she wants to talk to me. I lower my

499
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: head and got out. So it's it's life now, It's okay.

500
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 1: So I got nothing for it. I'm just I don't

501
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 1: want talk to people because I'm like, they don't mean

502
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 1: to bother them. So I go and we work on it.

503
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 1: And I spent about four months, was going once sometimes

504
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 1: twice a week because she lives lives her off as

505
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 1: like a block from here, which is great for me

506
00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 1: and her number. Yeah, you like absolutely, And she works

507
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 1: with a lot of creatives, which for me, that's just

508
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: a different level of psycho for us to even try

509
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 1: to do something creative, to think that we're good enough

510
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 1: that people want to buy what we're putting out, we're nuts,

511
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 1: like we were broken in the way of we we

512
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 1: know our problems and issues and we struggle, but still

513
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 1: we think what we're good enough is good enough for

514
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 1: people to spend their hard earned money on, and so

515
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 1: it's just a weird world that we're creating and living in. Anyway,

516
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: my point is, here's the great story to it. I

517
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: went every week for like four months, and I got

518
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: a freaking girlfriend and have a girlfriend in years and

519
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: haven't had a girlfriend now for like how long, my

520
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: like three months. Still like it helped give you the

521
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: courage to I don't know if it was courage, but

522
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: it was more of I started asking myself the questions

523
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 1: that I needed to answer that I never had even

524
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: questioned about myself because we're not therapist. Ude. They just

525
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: put a mirror up, but some are more strategic than

526
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: others and how they do it and what angle they tilted,

527
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I'm the dope. So it's

528
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: basically it's basically all that. So, but therapy has been

529
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 1: a big, big part of what I'm doing and why

530
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: I do it. And I can be very vulnerable on stage.

531
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 1: I could do an hour of stand up and say

532
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: everything about me does not bother me, or get on

533
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: the radio into a person. If there's these w here,

534
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 1: probably nothing. Nope, we wouldn't be talking. I would have

535
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 1: left if we would have shook on it and been like, yeah,

536
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: let's not talk for sure. We've been going what's up

537
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: with you? And justin being engaged for ten years, that's

538
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 1: something earlier you guys were like, we're gonna put us

539
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: all a decade in and then we'll talk about marriage. No,

540
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: it's so funny because we've been together for so long.

541
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 1: We got engaged like four or five years ago. Um. Sorry,

542
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: I'm not talking to Mike that often. Um. I we

543
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: both don't. We're not fans of weddings. Um. And back

544
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: to the stage fright thing. It sounds hilarious because that's

545
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: our job, but it sounds so crazy to us to

546
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: have a wedding where you invite a bunch of people

547
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: and you stand up in front of them and say

548
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: vows like it gives us anxiety. Um. And so then

549
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: we thought, well, we could just go sign papers or

550
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: go get married at the courthouse. But that's not going

551
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: to change anything to the dynamic of our relationship because

552
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: we honestly have felt married this whole time. So that's

553
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: our answer every time. So I'm not saying we're not

554
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: gonna but it's definitely we have, we're good and if

555
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: it works, well that's the thing, and it works for everyone,

556
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: then it works. Why why do you look at the

557
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: table work for everyone? No, it's it's a funny. It's

558
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,719
Speaker 1: a funny question because I always feel awkward to answering

559
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 1: and not saying it's bad to ask it. It's obvious question, mr. Yeah,

560
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: we we we get asked all the time, and I

561
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 1: think that I don't want to offend people and make

562
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,719
Speaker 1: them think that we don't appreciate marriage or respect marriage.

563
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: But I also don't think that it's only about marriage.

564
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: I think that a relationship is defined on how you

565
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: you know, treat each other and love each other. So

566
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: I just it's it's funny. I didn't think it came

567
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 1: off like that at all. I didn't think anyone married

568
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 1: like that. Gold I think that was the thing at all. No, no, no, um.

569
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: I want to talk about stage fright again. Odd that

570
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: you would have it to someone who doesn't deal with

571
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: it themselves. It's like anxiety to me where I would

572
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: get anxiety and I had a lot of um of

573
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: issues with I had PTSD for a long time and

574
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: had a bunch of it, get getting jumped and so

575
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: I would get anxiety for no reason, but then I

576
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 1: would know there was some kind of roots to it, right,

577
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,959
Speaker 1: and I just never understood it until I got it,

578
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: And people would say I have anxiety, and honestly, I'd

579
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: be like, shut up, you know, just take a nap.

580
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,479
Speaker 1: And then it started to creep up on me when

581
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 1: I couldn't control it, and I would go, oh, okay,

582
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: now I feel what I've been hearing about, the same

583
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,239
Speaker 1: thing I would say with stage fright. So someone like

584
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: yourself that is known to be a wonderful performer, like

585
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: when did this start to hit? And how in the

586
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: world did you get over it? It's been forever and

587
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: I've never got over it even now. No, it's every

588
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: time it's it's kind of like, uh, starting at square

589
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 1: one again every time. I mean it depends if it's

590
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: my own shows. I still get nervous, for sure, but

591
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: like two songs in, I end up being good and

592
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: I love the audience and they make me not want

593
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: to get off the stage. But every time before I'm like,

594
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: why would I do this? Like I'm not I don't

595
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: want to be an entertainer. I loved ultimately what happened.

596
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: I love singing. I've sung since I was like a kid.

597
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: I wrote some songs for fun my friend from high

598
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: school put them up on my space, and then because

599
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: of that, I got offered a record deal that was

600
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: how could I pass that up? I had this amazing

601
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: opportunity of you know, I love writing songs, I love singing.

602
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: I did not like the touring or the performing factor

603
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: of it, and so I had to really grow and

604
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: deal with that the first many years of my career.

605
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: And it was torture. And you could look back at

606
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: some TV performances and see it on my face. I

607
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: mean everyone just it was. It was horrifying. Basically, it

608
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 1: was just terrifying for me. UM. So I think the

609
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: amount of experience I've had has helped me get through it. Um.

610
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say I enjoy it all the time. I'd

611
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: say every time, it's like the anxiety that you're we

612
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: were talking about, That's just what I feel right before

613
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: I go on stage, when I'm up there. And the

614
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: more I've actually learned about talking about myself and how

615
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: when I'm uncomfortable, because it actually helped me feel more comfortable.

616
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 1: So I started telling people in the past few years

617
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: I have. I'm an introvert and I'm shy, and then

618
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: I end up actually talking more to the audience somehow.

619
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: So really letting my guard down like that has helped.

620
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: TV appearances are funny because you go out and you

621
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: do one song or one quick hit, and then it's over.

622
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: It's like here we go, boom on the next thing.

623
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: And if you're suffering from stage fright early, you're only

624
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: early on TV. So you just walk out there and

625
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: battle it. Battle it. It's a challenge. And I we

626
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: have a Today's Show performance coming up in a couple

627
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: of weeks, and I'm already mentally just trying to figure

628
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: out you mean Justin and I are today he was

629
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: helping me find this. There's a coach that we're trying

630
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: to find what coach can help me get through it?

631
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: Like meaning like figure out to get to the bottom

632
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: of war or this comes from what is my reason

633
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: that I have such anxiety? And why is it heightened?

634
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: Like the fact, just to be honest with you, like

635
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: I thought this was just like a podcast and to

636
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: know there's cameras. I'm already just like I don't know why,

637
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but it makes me

638
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: feel more nervous when I'm on camera or live somewhere,

639
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: So it's weird. I deal with a lot of the

640
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: contestants on American Idol and they come and they're like,

641
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm so nervous, you know, what do I do? And

642
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: so and the days I think stage fright and nerves

643
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: are a different thing though. Yeah, So I'm gonna ask

644
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: you this question. First, what would you tell them? It said,

645
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: let's say a nineteen year old girls like, what do

646
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: I do about nerves? Because it's just a generic but

647
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: often ask question, what would you tell them? I mean, ultimately,

648
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: practicing your craft and that is that right there will

649
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: give you that confidence. If you don't practice enough, or

650
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: you're not prepared for the situation, of course, you're gonna

651
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,719
Speaker 1: have that extra layer of discomfort and and nerves are

652
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: gonna mess up. Um uh taking deep breaths. I mean

653
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: I had a stage coach that had told me back

654
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: in the day to look in the mirror at yourself

655
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,479
Speaker 1: and say like five good things. Repeat five good things

656
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: about yourself in the mirror. It doesn't have to be physical,

657
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: it could be what ever, to just kind of build

658
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: yourself up that confidence. Um, those are things I would say,

659
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: and those are things I do, I don't say. I

660
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: can't say that they work for me entirely or all

661
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: the time. And sometimes I'll I think I'm not nervous,

662
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: and I'll go out there and I'll I'll just kill it.

663
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: I'll be and I'll be like, that was so much fun.

664
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: How I don't know what the key was that made

665
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: me not nervous. And then sometimes I'll I'll go out

666
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: there and I'll just literally like barely get through a show.

667
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: And it's crazy, even near the end of the show,

668
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: you're still feeling in a bit more more short shows

669
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: or more like I just did this um this charity

670
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: event at Carnegie Hall in December, and I sang three

671
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: songs with this gigantic orchestra and these incredible artists were there,

672
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: and I just was. I was so scared the whole

673
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: the three songs. I was like, no one they said

674
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: they couldn't tell, but I was. My hands were literally shaking,

675
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: I could tell, my voice was shaky. I had I

676
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: lose my breath when I get nervous, and I it

677
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: was just the whole three songs, and I was just

678
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: looking at this opportunity that I had, and I'm like,

679
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: why are you? You should be happy that you're up here,

680
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: but instead I was just like, I can't wait till

681
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: I'm off this stage and the pressure is off. What

682
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: I was looking back at like, I'm at Carnegie Hall

683
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: in New York at an amazing charity charity benefit with

684
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: an orchestra and all these incredible artists. So I don't

685
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: know I need I need therapy for it for sure,

686
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: you know. And what I tell a lot of them

687
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: is because I'll go I'm about to go out to

688
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: perform in front of the judges or live on TV.

689
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: And my approach is a bit more pragmatic, where I go, Hey,

690
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: you already know you're gonna be nervous, So as long

691
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: as you don't get up there and go, well, how

692
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: do I not be nervous while you're on stage? Just

693
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: except you're gonna be nervous that one later you're already

694
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: passed because when you get up there, you're gonna be

695
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: nervous and then you start trying to battle. How about

696
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: how do I get down nervous? You just wasted a

697
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: little bit of your energy and time and in mental

698
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: capacity going you're already gonna be nervous, So when you

699
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: walk up there, you're just gonna be nervous. Tell yourself, well,

700
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm about be nervous. Let's see how this goes. Yeah,

701
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: and again. And then I tell them, you know, and

702
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: you've done this far more than I have. Musically, I

703
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: tell them, the more you do it, the more you'll

704
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: be less nervous. Unless you're Calby Calais, who tends to

705
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: somehow I'd be able to shake it. I know. Well,

706
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: I've also heard people say, think of it as a friend, Like,

707
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: think of that nerves and that fear as a friend.

708
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: And then, um, also, if you imagine the scenario of

709
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: it going good before you go out there, then you

710
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: can already train your brain to think that it's going

711
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: to go good. Um I haven't. I Sometimes I think

712
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm too nervous to even think of any of these

713
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: things before I go out. But um, I do think

714
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: that there's a way, and I plan on finding it,

715
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: so I'll let you know, keep searching. I struggle with

716
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: the think about if things go good. Yeah, I struggle

717
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: with that one. You think it's going to go bad?

718
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: Oh always always, Um, have you ever tried in the

719
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: in the chemical because when I was doing Dance with Stars.

720
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: I took his n X before I went out once

721
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: because that my heart was just because I don't know

722
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: how to dance. I'm dancing from an eight million people?

723
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: What am I to even doing here? And my heart

724
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: was racing out of control? And then that was that

725
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: was not good because I was started, and then I

726
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: wasn't really feeling Have you tried any of that? Have

727
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: you tried anything to drinking anything before? Yeah? And and

728
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: I don't drink too much, but I'll have like a

729
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: shot of Jamison whiskey in my I just have hot

730
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: water and honey on stage and then I put a

731
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: shot of the Jamison in there. I feel like it

732
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: helps take a little edge off. I become a little

733
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: bit more like a little bit more fun. But I

734
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: could never have too much booze before I go out,

735
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: because um, that's accidentally happened like one time, and I

736
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: feel like I can't hear myself, like I go off pitch,

737
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: and then I also feel like I'm I just worry

738
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna trip. I just I would never want

739
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: to be that boozy on stage. Um. I have tried

740
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: zanex a couple of times, and I do think that

741
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: it has helped because it takes the the jitters out,

742
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: but again, it affects your voice. And I also don't

743
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: want to have to be on Zanex every time I

744
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: play a show, so I don't. I don't allow myself

745
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: to do that. But believe me, I have thought about it.

746
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know that this is how dumb I am

747
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: to drugs alcohol because I've I've never had drink alcohol

748
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: and I've never tried to drug um because I'm afraid

749
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: I'll be super addicted to it. Yeah, that's the only

750
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: I would try all of them. I would love to

751
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: have them all right, if I could, I just have

752
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: it all um. I didn't know that there were different

753
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: sizes that would do different things. So apparently I took

754
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: the whale, which I should have probably taken the p

755
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: and I was just like let's go and yeah, and

756
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: it was just like I've heard there's different doses, like

757
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: in is It Old School where he gets shot at

758
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: the dart mic and he's like, yeah, that's what I

759
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: felt like, That's what that's what I felt like. Yeah,

760
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: you mentioned my space because I guess unless you're thirty four,

761
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: thirty five and above, um, like you kind of missed that,

762
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,959
Speaker 1: but that was because Lady and a Bellum big myspacers.

763
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: Really yeah, that's kind of how they ended up finding

764
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: each other was connecting on my Space. Uh, there was

765
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: a whole five or six years where a lot of

766
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: artists were being broken because there are my Space pages

767
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: had blown up. So for you, your friend takes your

768
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: music and just uploads it onto her page or your

769
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 1: page or how did that work? Sorry, it was him

770
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: and it was he made me a page. So he

771
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: he told me, Um, you know there's this thing called

772
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: MySpace music. You can upload music, and um, I think

773
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: that because I just had these few demos. So he

774
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: put these demos up, which it was funny because bubbly

775
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: there I had actually sung a line kind of wrong,

776
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: like I said the wrong thing, and it was just

777
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: the demo he put that up. So eventually, because that

778
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: song from there got so huge, people noticed when I

779
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: actually did go and change the one little line that

780
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: I messed up. Um, So yeah, he he made me

781
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: a page and people somehow, over honestly a few months

782
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: period of time all over the world listened to it

783
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: and because they you know, you could add the song

784
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: to your page, which was that was so cool file Yeah, yes, exactly,

785
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: You're on wallpaper. It was amazing. And so because of that,

786
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: I became the number one unsigned artist. And then I

787
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: got UM. I had a bunch of labels, you know,

788
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: UM combiding whatever it was. It was crazy. I was

789
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: twenty years old. I had literally not even asked for

790
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: this to happen, or expected it to happen, or been

791
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: prepared for it to happen. So how does the first

792
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: person get in touch with you and do you even

793
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: believe them? Well, so at that point I think I

794
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 1: was I had I was getting I don't even remember

795
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: the stats, but I had a bunch of followers or

796
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: listens or whatever it was. And so my dad was like, honey,

797
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: I think this is becoming a thing. We should talk

798
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: to a manager and see what UM. And so my

799
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: manager today, Chad, who Hillary works for UM. He's been

800
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: my manager since, and he basically was like, okay, let's

801
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: every None of us knew what social media was or

802
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: what it was gonna do. So then UM the labels

803
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: contacted him and then we went to New York and

804
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: l A and met all these Yeah, I was it

805
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: was bizarre. And then within six months I was on

806
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: tour with the Goo Dolls, playing you know, ten thousand

807
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: seat amphitheaters and playing TV shows and I was twenty

808
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: one and I had never played live before basically in

809
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: my life. It was crazy. I met Chad on an

810
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 1: airplane now that I think about it. We sat beside

811
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: each other bood yeah, yeah, we sat aside each other's

812
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: so funny, and he was like, I work with I

813
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: didn't think anything of it because there, but he's trying

814
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: to sell me something, right, And I was like, you

815
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: weren't called the galley? Shut up and I didn't even

816
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: live here, but what do you do? What her? But no,

817
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: that's who that was. We were. We were flying together,

818
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: and he was like, are we going now? I feel

819
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 1: like because I didn't believe him, I don't believe anything

820
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: anybody says. Well, yeah, I mean unless yeah, you have

821
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: a chance to look them up and that's really hard. Yeah,

822
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: And then I just mostly free. No, of course, why

823
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: would you think pop? Yeah, I madam, it's all nice guy.

824
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: And you guys have been together for a long time,

825
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: huh the whole time so before like when the MySpace

826
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: thing started. Yeah, he's my bud and who who hits

827
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: you up and goes come play with the Goo Goo Dolls?

828
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: Did they? Does Johnny Resin I ever call you himself

829
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: and go yo, have you on the road with us? No?

830
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: Not with that. Jason Mraz did call me after my

831
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: first album came out to have me sing um and

832
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: write lucky with him, But no, it was um It

833
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: all just kind of happened where they m I think

834
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: right right then I got the record deal. Then I

835
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: signed with um w IM and then I think they

836
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: just start booking. I don't know, and it was all whirlwind,

837
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: literally instant, like I I signed I think in January,

838
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: and I was on tour. My album came out in July,

839
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: and I was on tour before that, and in that

840
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 1: world pop world, rock world for the most part, different

841
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: than country world. Where ague on the road Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Yeah,

842
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: your tours, I would imagine you tell me I'm wrong,

843
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: it's most of the time. It was two years for sure,

844
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: Like you just almost don't go home unless you get

845
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: a break. Yeah, well, you'd especially your first, your first,

846
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: your new artist, and it's your first album. So that's

847
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: what we're dealing with Gone West right now too, is

848
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: your you have to be gone all the time, you

849
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: have to say yes to everything and so um. But

850
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: for me back then, it was something I had never experienced,

851
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: being gone for months at a time around all over

852
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: the world, and missing my family, missing weddings and birthdays,

853
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: and two of my dogs passed away while I was gone,

854
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: all that kind of crazy stuff that I literally just

855
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,479
Speaker 1: was just thrown into. I was lucky. Whenever you start

856
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: singing freaking Bubbly and thousands of people are singing back.

857
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: I mean, that's got to be nuty when you first start, right,

858
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: it's so it's amazing. It's really it's so sweet that

859
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, people still know that song and listen to

860
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: it and that that happened. And I think what's so

861
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: funny is that none of us would have thought that

862
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: Bubbly would have been the first single or the thing

863
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: to react to people, because at that time it was

864
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: more produced stuff and it was more um up tempo songs.

865
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: So we thought the more up tempo songs on Coco

866
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: would maybe you know, again, we were just writing these

867
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: songs and recording for fun. They were just demos, but

868
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: in our minds at that time that's what we were

869
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: just shocked that Bubbly was but it was a refreshing

870
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: sound of very simple music and instrumentation and a very

871
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: simple melody. So here's Bubbly for those the one person

872
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: that has never heard it. Seven, Like, what would you

873
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: tell yourself? Right now? You this girl who is about

874
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 1: to go out on tour, the song has just been recorded.

875
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: What do you tell her? Um, I would say to

876
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: spend more time preparing and practicing and and figuring out

877
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: know how to enjoy performing live and remembering people. I

878
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: think because of like like I feel like there's trauma

879
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: in my mind from like how it started that I

880
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: like don't I don't remember a lot of things and

881
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people I think my mind, like seriously,

882
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: I was too nervous and busy to remember it, and

883
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: so I feel like I run into people all the time,

884
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: and I I hate that I don't remember them, but

885
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: it happens to me. So I'd say, just try to

886
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: really try to enjoy it, because I was too overwhelmed

887
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: to even be able to enjoy it. What's the most

888
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: two thousands? Who's the most two thousands person that you

889
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: can remember meeting? Like a Tom Green, like somebody I

890
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: don't know if you met Tom Green, but I don't

891
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: think I did. But you think of, you know, when

892
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: you were blowing up and somebody else who was kind

893
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: of blowing up at the same time. Who's the most

894
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: two thousands person that you think you've got to tour

895
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: with or hang out with. Oh, I mean, well, like

896
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: Natasha Beddingfield. Oh, it's a great two thousands person. Yeah.

897
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: I loved her. I love her, A giant fan of hers.

898
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: And now we're friends, which I still think about, like

899
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: when we talk them, like there's still that back in

900
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: my mind, like how I'm talking to Natasha Beddingfield. That's

901
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: I got to tour with John Mayer. I mean that

902
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 1: was another thing that I listened to his music forever.

903
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: I his Continuum album. I worked at a Tanning salon.

904
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 1: I was listening to it, and then a year later

905
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: I was I almost like, was on tour with basically

906
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: I was. I think it was a year later I

907
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: was on tour with him. I mean that kind of

908
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: stuff is crazy. You know. I auditioned for Bubbly, um uh,

909
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: for American Idol. With Bubbly, you sang it to the

910
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: producer yeah outside and the yeah, I mean I wasn't

911
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: right for the show, so it made sense. But I yeah,

912
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: I know people now if you need to get on now,

913
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: I sang it last year or two years ago, and yeah, yeah, yeah,

914
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: that's fun. You did the duet them, Yeah in l

915
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: A with Maddie Poppy. Yeah. And Maddie is great, Maddie,

916
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: Maddie won that freaking show. I am out of nowhere. Yeah,

917
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: she she is so good. Her voice realized was one

918
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: of my favorites, if not my favorite. When you hear

919
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: the song, what do you think about that's happened in

920
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: your life? Right then? Um? When I when I was

921
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: writing just just in general, like two the songs blown up,

922
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: like where does it put you? Oh that? Yeah, I

923
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: don't know where I was in the world. Um, but

924
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: I I I was. I think I remember when I

925
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: shot the music video for this, I had just like

926
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: dyed my hair brown and cut bangs. And my label

927
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: was like, what are you doing? This is only your

928
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 1: second single. You're not supposed to like change your look. Um,

929
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: but no, I think that's what I think. I was

930
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: somewhere in the world and um, and you know, I

931
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: wrote the song with Jason Reeves, like we we wrote

932
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: it together about his roommate who had a crush on me.

933
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: It's really funny. When was it that you couldn't go

934
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: out without people coming up and going, hey, are you

935
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: called Lai? Um? I mean it never crazy happened, but

936
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: it was definitely within that year, um for sure, Like

937
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: the second year that was. I mean, I remember going

938
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: to Asia and we had to have like police escort.

939
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 1: It was something I had never like. That doesn't happen

940
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: here in l a or or in you know, the States,

941
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,479
Speaker 1: but it was. It was a gnarly, gnarly thing where

942
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: just thousands of people were at this you know, it

943
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: was it was amazing. But um, no here, I think

944
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: it's great that I get to still be me and

945
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: I go out and about with no makeup most of

946
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: the time. And you know, sometimes a lot of people

947
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: will just ask if They'll say, I look like Colby Cali.

948
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: You don't ask if I am that? What's your move

949
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: with that? Because sometimes people will say that to me too,

950
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: Look what do you do? I feel like an asshole,

951
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 1: But I'm like, if you don't, I'm not. You didn't

952
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: ask me the question. You didn't you just said, hey,

953
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: you look like her and kept walking. I'm not gonna.

954
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: Is it my duty to go tell you it's me?

955
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: Don't you know it's me? It could come off. Also,

956
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: it's very strange. Someone at the ice cream shop the

957
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 1: other night I went and they were like, hasny whatever

958
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: told you look like bi bones? And I said, let

959
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: me see. Pull up on your phone. Let me see

960
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: what it looks like. That's good and because and I

961
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: had a minute, and she was very nice and she

962
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: pulls it up and she's like, yeah, you look just

963
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: like I didn't have have brown glasses on down and

964
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: I had brown glasses on. Then I said, yeah, I

965
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: guess the glasses are a little different. I said, but

966
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: I can see he said, he's a really good looking guy.

967
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: And she goes, yeah, he's all right. So she never

968
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: got it. That's wrong with people that you gave her

969
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: the old chance. I guess they don't believe that they

970
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: would actually see you in person or just in like

971
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: a regular area I guess, but I just know how

972
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: regular of an area guy I am. But again she

973
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: said he's all right, and I was I was like,

974
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: come on, did you know that one hurt a little bit? Um?

975
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: There's brighter than the sun. It was this on a

976
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: TV show they used a theme song or something. It

977
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: sounds very Natasha Beddingfield, you know the Hills like they did.

978
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: I don't remember. It sounds very thematic and something that

979
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: I had watched a lot of. Um, this is a

980
00:44:55,320 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: different sound though to me from you was this, Okay,

981
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna make a change up with with the with

982
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: the next project. Was that was that on purpose? So yeah,

983
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: this was a few albums in and this I wrote

984
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: and um produced with Ryan tedder Um and he well,

985
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 1: you know, just so when I did my first album, Coco,

986
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: I had no expectations. There wasn't there wasn't a sound

987
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: we were going for. We just made the album and

988
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: the label had nothing to do with it, and so

989
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: I had no guidance or input. Then starting with album too,

990
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: that's when all the input comes in, and you know,

991
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: they want me to start working with different writers and

992
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: and all the all the people that you know. I'm

993
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: not saying it was a bad thing. I'm so glad

994
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: I had that experience. But they people always instantly want

995
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: to change exactly what was just successful into something completely

996
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: different that's successful by someone else. So they wanted to

997
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: be me to become more populiar, you know, um and

998
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: have it all just kind of changed. So I had

999
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: to find find the balance with that of like accepting

1000
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: different writing sessions and producers and and a different sound

1001
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: and also finding, you know, keeping the same thing that

1002
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: I've wanted and that what people knew of me. I

1003
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 1: felt like it's interesting, brighter, it still has the same

1004
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: kind of like organic acoustic field. But yeah, it was

1005
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: a departure for sure. Well you play brighter than the

1006
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: Sun still, Yeah, I play it, and you do play it.

1007
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, any songs where you're like, you know what,

1008
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: I just don't want to play that anymore. Um, because

1009
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 1: you have played bubbly obviously, Yeah, and I like playing

1010
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: I like playing Bubbly for sure. I think it's like

1011
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: like my song I Do it was it was a

1012
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: single and it it did well, but I don't I

1013
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: feel like I was. I was so young when I

1014
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: wrote it, and I felt like, I feel like it's

1015
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: just like a little bit cheesy, and it's like, um,

1016
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 1: it's not a singer song, Like I don't plays thank You, No.

1017
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: I think I like singing songs that I can sing more,

1018
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: and this one's a little bit more rappy rhythmckey melodically,

1019
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: we won't make you sit through it. I mean to

1020
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 1: sing it for you. No, I definitely let's do try.

1021
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 1: You don't have to try so hard. You don't have

1022
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: to get it because of A fourteen. This is relatively recent.

1023
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: So when you're putting out this project, what was in

1024
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 1: your mind? What are you thinking about? Like, you're trying

1025
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: to be a pop star, You're trying to go be

1026
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: like what what's the idea with your career? Uh? That

1027
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: was what my label wanted for me to do. So

1028
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: when you hear this full album, it's so different from me.

1029
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: And I wrote the songs. I actively, you know, it

1030
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: was involved in the production being the way that it

1031
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: was because I was excited about trying a new sound.

1032
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: But I don't think that it didn't work. Besides this song,

1033
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: UM and I I just know that this song I

1034
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: wrote because I was feeling all the pressures of being

1035
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: asked to start being someone else, um, you know, even

1036
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 1: more heightened, and I think I was. So I went

1037
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: in the session with baby Face and um Jason Reeves

1038
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: and and Tony and I was just telling them I'm like,

1039
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: I literally feel like they're trying to everyone's trying to

1040
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: make me be a different person all of a sudden

1041
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: with the way I look and the music I'm doing,

1042
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: and um, it's exhausting, and it's you know, I feel

1043
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: like I have to get dolled up to go anywhere,

1044
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: even though I never felt I never felt that way.

1045
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 1: My family or even the fans didn't make me feel

1046
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: that way. And so that's what made me right try.

1047
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: And it was the best song off the album that

1048
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: you know, of course, and it was the most stripped

1049
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: and the most real, authentic and in the writing, I'm

1050
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: only going to hit you with a couple more clips

1051
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: Lucky You and Jayson Mraz the Monster. Yeah, I used

1052
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: to play this a lot, Yeah, on pop radio. So

1053
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 1: does he call you and go did you write it together?

1054
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: Like what you did? Write it together? Yeah, but not

1055
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: in the room together. So yeah, he called me, And

1056
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: again I was a huge fan of his, and I

1057
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: just think I got told from my from my management

1058
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: that Raz reached out and that he wanted to call me,

1059
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: so to be all, I should be expecting his call,

1060
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: and I was freaking out. And so he was like, Hey,

1061
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: I have this idea I started and I would love

1062
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: to write it with you. Of course, our schedules never aligned.

1063
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: We were both on tour different parts of the world,

1064
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: and so we wrote it together over email ideas UM

1065
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: me him and UM Tim Fagan who was in my

1066
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: band actually at the time, and so we sent these

1067
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: voice memos back and forth over email and lyric ideas,

1068
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: and then I recorded it with him in London. So

1069
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: you guys recorded together though, Yeah, So it's like playing

1070
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: chess with someone as you mail the moves back and forth.

1071
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: It's interesting, for sure. I've I've done it a few

1072
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: times now where you actually right, like from over email

1073
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: or sending ideas back and forth, and there's something to it.

1074
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: But there's also something about being in the room with someone.

1075
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: One more, Here's breathe Taylor Swift. Taylor asked me to

1076
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: come write a song with her, and so I came

1077
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: here to Nashville and um, and she had a lot

1078
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: of this song already started. I thought it was so beautiful,

1079
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: and I right then, not when I first met her,

1080
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: I think she was fifteen. I knew her brilliance. I

1081
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: was just blown away at how fast of a writer

1082
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: she was, and how personable and how intellectual she was,

1083
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: and um and so she wanted me then to come

1084
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: back to Nashville and sing Harmony, which now Nathan Chapman

1085
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: and I worked with a ton. So Nathan's great. Got

1086
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: you watch Marvelousms Mazel literally my favorite show. I'm on

1087
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: my third time watching it right now. So here's what

1088
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: happened to me. Okay, I started it, and so I'm

1089
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: in hot. I have so many friends that are like

1090
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: minded and sensibility that love it, and I trust my

1091
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: like minded, sensibly friends. Hold on, I've never I've never

1092
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: seen an episode, right, So I turned it on like

1093
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: my big day and waiting to stretch out. Not home

1094
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: a lot, but when I am home, I'm gonna sit

1095
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: down with the marvelous Miss Mazel. Pull it up Amazon.

1096
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: Very excited, I hit the button and I started my

1097
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: first episode ever. And she's on stage and it's like

1098
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: a us O thing and she's singing and she's opening

1099
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: up for some act and I'm like, I just can't

1100
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: get into this. I'll watch. I'll watch another episode. That's

1101
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: what you that's what you started on. That's not the

1102
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: first season three. I just hit play on it and

1103
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: I watched two and a half episodes and I thought

1104
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 1: to myself. I'm an idiot because all my smart friends

1105
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: like this show and I can't get into it. Got it?

1106
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: But I started watching almost three episodes in season three,

1107
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: haven't he Seon wanted to? And I can't get myself

1108
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: to start over again. It's okay because I already know

1109
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: what happened. Spoiler she opens for some guy in USO. Okay,

1110
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 1: that's not the full that's oh my god. Well, first

1111
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: of all, I've I have said, I've recommended the show

1112
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: to so many people, and I feel like guys actually

1113
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: don't aren't into it. Justin is he I lost him.

1114
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: I think like fourth episode in basically um. But I

1115
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 1: also know people love breaking that and I could not.

1116
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: I couldn't get into it. I tried. I think I

1117
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: watched like the first you know, season and a half,

1118
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: and I it was I mean over, I know. I

1119
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: quit and then I was like, Okay, we have to

1120
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: do this, and I still me and Justin are like,

1121
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,439
Speaker 1: I don't what is it. Everyone in the world says

1122
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: it's the best show ever created, and I just don't

1123
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: see it. I really like it. It's it's definitely slow.

1124
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 1: It crawls, and you kind of have to get into

1125
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: that crawl pace with it. Game of Thrones, Yeah, I

1126
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 1: loved it. Okay, mostly five people to like Game of Thrones,

1127
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: they also like Breaking Bad because the Game of Thrones

1128
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: are so slow. Yeah, but I also I am not

1129
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: someone who likes the wizardry, and I still really like

1130
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones. Yeah. Well, and I had said no

1131
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: to watching Game of Thrones, and then it was just

1132
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: and I were on the airplane and he was like

1133
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: third season in and I was just like watching and

1134
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: I kept asking what was going on? And then I

1135
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 1: started watching with him from there to the end, and

1136
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 1: then I started over and we watched it all again.

1137
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: So so then yeah, it's yeah, But I mean I

1138
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: will back to what you're saying of how some people

1139
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: everyone can love something and then you just don't understand

1140
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: why you're the one that doesn't. But figger something. And

1141
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 1: what's your favorite show? If you had to pick one

1142
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: that you can watch at any point, Miss Maizel, No,

1143
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: Friends down Friends, Office would be second. I'm the second.

1144
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: I'm wrapped around the other way NonStop. I'll watch The

1145
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: Office every night, so we do too, but I would

1146
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: be watching not that I wouldn't I love Office, but

1147
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: Justin's not as much of a friend's fan, and so

1148
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: we watched that less. But I would be watching it

1149
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 1: only have you met any of them? Yes? I met

1150
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: Jennifer Anderson Um on tour with on Mayor and Um

1151
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: I again back to the introverted nous Um. She watched

1152
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: my set side stage. I got off stage. She said

1153
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 1: hi to me. I said, oh my god, so nice

1154
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: to meet you. I love friends. And then she was

1155
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: like sit down or whatever. I said, I had to

1156
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: go and I left and I never talked to her again.

1157
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: I'm not joking you and I every time I'm like,

1158
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: I yeah, I just I do that. So I met

1159
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: Lisa Coudro I did. I had like, have you met her?

1160
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: She's as nice as she is. I had like a

1161
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: really small part of the movie once, I like nine lines,

1162
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: and so she was in the movie. And so I

1163
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: was sitting next to her in a chair when they

1164
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: were doing our hair and makeup, and she was talking

1165
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: about the weather or whatever, and she goes, hey, how's

1166
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: your day going? And I said, I love friends. I

1167
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: don't answer the question. Yeah. I was just like I

1168
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: love friends. I'm just gonna say I love and she

1169
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: was like, oh, thanks, and then she talked about it.

1170
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: It was it was our one moment. I didn't quite

1171
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: run away because I was tethered into the chair. Yeah,

1172
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think she's Have you ever met anyone

1173
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: from the office? Um, yes, I met. Yes, I met

1174
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 1: Steve Correll once. How is that? I think I've met

1175
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: him just in passing. Yeah, and I met the breaking

1176
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: bad guy and I got to say hi to him

1177
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: and I told him I haven't watched the show, but

1178
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 1: AMU the main guy? Yeah, Brian Cranston. Sorry, I'm sorry.

1179
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm bad with names and all the things. So that's funny.

1180
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: Have you watched Parasite yet? The movie they just want

1181
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: best Picture? Have you heard about it? You don't even

1182
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 1: know what's You said that in a way if you

1183
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: didn't know what it was, I don't know. So I

1184
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 1: only watched it a couple of nights ago. But it is.

1185
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: It just won Best Picture at the Oscars. Would have

1186
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: never even stolen stumbled upon it. But it's one of

1187
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: those that all your friends are going to watch it.

1188
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: Here's the kicker. It's in Korean, okay, so you have

1189
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: to have subtitles. Yeah, but it did. It did win

1190
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: the Oh Okay, yeah, no, way, I haven't. I mean no,

1191
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it, but I have heard about that,

1192
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: but no, I'm not. Would you watch a movie with subtitles?

1193
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: I try not to because I try not to. To. Basically,

1194
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: Justin always wants to, and I I always say no

1195
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: because it's distracting to me. It stresses me out, like

1196
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm always having to pay attention otherwise

1197
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss a It just doesn't gives me anxiety.

1198
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: So it was good though, And I did not want

1199
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Speaker 1: to watch a movie with subtitles. Well good, Okay, have

1200
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: you seen anything lately? Yes, we've been watching a lot

1201
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: of Watch Knives out by any chance. No, that's on

1202
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: our list. Yeah, we're going to rent it the other night.

1203
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: But it's interesting. It's pretty good, okay. And I never

1204
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 1: want to tell people something because Mike told me the

1205
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: Parents I was the best movie he's ever seen or something,

1206
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, great, here we go strap in

1207
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 1: boys and then nothing lives up to high what? Yeah?

1208
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: And also it can register to us in a different

1209
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: way of whatever we're going through or whatever something in

1210
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: our childhood what who knows what? What? How it affects

1211
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: us and why we love something so much? What have

1212
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: you watched? Give me a recommendation. If I'm like, oh,

1213
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: you gotta give me something to watch, I'm gonna go down.

1214
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: So The Outsider we started, have you that's a new

1215
00:55:54,520 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: show show? Um? What is that? It's with um Jason Bateman. Also,

1216
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: I love Ozark? Do you like Ozark? Okay? So that? Um?

1217
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: But no, yeah, The The Outsider it's very it's like

1218
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: a little creepy too, but it's um hooked on it

1219
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: and it's really good. Creepy as in horror or creepy

1220
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: as in sci fi like, uh not horror. I mean

1221
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: it's it's just basically like you're wondering what's going on

1222
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: and there's murder involved for sure, in like a creepy

1223
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: way that no one knows yet. Have you watched The Watchman?

1224
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 1: No on HBO? No? Alright, you're up. Oh we're passing

1225
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: back until we hit one together. I mean we just

1226
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 1: literally finished, um The Stranger last night. I wouldn't necessarily, Yeah,

1227
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 1: can I texted Justin? He would know? Does he pick

1228
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: the shows for the most part? Yeah? I really Otherwise,

1229
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: like I'm a person that either won't watch TV or

1230
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: I'll watch Friends or Mrs Maisel or The Office, Like

1231
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't, that's what I watched The Office

1232
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 1: all the time. I did watch Cheer. Have you seen Cheer? No? Okay,

1233
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: so it's on Netflix. I would never watch it. Yer

1234
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 1: leading show, but it's about it's a docuseriies. It's six

1235
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: parts about this college cheerleading team that tries to win nationals.

1236
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: But it's not even it's not cheerleading like two plus

1237
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 1: two plus or whatever. They do it and it's really

1238
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: one of the best series I've seen in years. Like,

1239
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: I didn't like it? Yeah, did you expect to like it?

1240
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: You didn't expect you because you're like, what's the show

1241
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: about cheerleading going to be about? But it's within like

1242
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: the first episode, you're into it. Did you watch the

1243
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: Aaron Hernandez documentary? No, but that's one we're going to

1244
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: maybe watch. And it's only three parts. Yeah, it's I mean,

1245
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: he was justin was telling me about it. It's it'll

1246
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: blow your mind and how much either you didn't know,

1247
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: forgot or that just happened. And he was such he

1248
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: was as big of an athlete as you could possibly be,

1249
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: yet he was living a double life murdering people? Since

1250
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: that's crazy, it's wild. Um what about the Oh? I

1251
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: just totally forgot what it was. I'll come back to it.

1252
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: We're not gonna quit. How many times have you asked?

1253
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: Because Eddie my friend and also my partner in my

1254
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: comedy band, how many times do you get asked? What

1255
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: did you say? Mike? Can you count me? Oh? Can

1256
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: you cow? Many times do you get asked about that?

1257
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: Can you count me into the front? Often? And what

1258
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: is that? What do you mean? Like what happened in

1259
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: that scenario? Why don't you go? Will you count me in?

1260
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: And on that part of the song? Oh? Got it? So? Um,

1261
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: I was actually embarrassed that Michael, our producer, wanted to

1262
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: keep it in um. I. When I wrote Bubbly, I

1263
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: was playing it on the guitar, and I was playing

1264
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: it in a little bit of a different way, and

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Speaker 1: so I didn't he played the guitar for that recording,

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Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, I was now just singing

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Speaker 1: the melody and it was a different kind of This

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Speaker 1: is why I'm saying it's embarrassing. So at some point

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00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: I kept coming in on the wrong spot of a

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Speaker 1: song I wrote of the chords everything that I I

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Speaker 1: don't know why I couldn't figure it out, and so

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Speaker 1: I finally was just like, will you count me in?

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Speaker 1: And he like put the mike talk back on. He

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00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: was like that was so cute. I want to keep that.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, no, you're not keeping that. That's

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00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: like that how embarrassing is that? Um? But he kept

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Speaker 1: it and that was the went on the demo and

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00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: then it's something that people loved and it still surprises

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Speaker 1: me to this day. Worst your name has ever been

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00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: butchered on a big stage? Oh? Um, it's usually like

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Speaker 1: Cali at Yeah. But you know when I go to France,

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Speaker 1: they tell me I say it wrong. Um, you're supposed

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00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: to say it kaya kaya. I was gonna say that

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Speaker 1: before you came in, but I feel like it's my place,

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00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: but I'm glad they do. You ever get on a

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Speaker 1: TV show and they or you go into a big

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00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: radio show and there they say your name wrong and

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00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: you just have to go yeah, yeah and or or.

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Speaker 1: I mean I even had like a neighbor that like,

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Speaker 1: for like, how do how do you correct someone? You're

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00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna make it awkward and you're gonna embarrass them so,

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Speaker 1: and I haven't found the right way of not embarrassing

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00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: someone yet. So do you just let them go with it?

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00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: Or do you A lot of people, even with Gone West,

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00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: they say we'll Go West, which is an eighties band.

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Speaker 1: Then we're like, oh, do we interrupt and say it's

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Speaker 1: actually not our name or do we let it just go?

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00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: And then people not I don't know. I was doing

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00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: the because we launched Idol Sunday night and I had

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00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: to do a press horse. So you sit in a

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Speaker 1: room and they pat you into all these TV stations.

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Speaker 1: They're talking to all the news people, and so I

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01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: did twenty two stations. I got four Bobby Joneses instead

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01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: of Bobby Bones and they just call you Bobby Jones

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01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: to just keep going. They don't even realize it's the

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Speaker 1: wrong name. So what I do at this point is

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Speaker 1: they mess it up so much. Is I just eventually

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Speaker 1: reference myself again as Bobby Jones, just from my own

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01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: personal area, and it's like, you know what Bobby Jones says,

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Speaker 1: you go get on America. I don't bet all the

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Speaker 1: viewers or listeners are just like, it is his name,

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Speaker 1: Bobby Jones. I'm so confused. And then I got to

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Speaker 1: Bobby Boys. Okay, so like I feel you a little

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Speaker 1: bit on people messing it up and at this point

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Speaker 1: it is why what do you mean? Yeah? I think

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01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: they either didn't they obviously know that's not your name.

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Speaker 1: It's just might just come out wrong and they didn't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they're is so stupid. I don't know that they

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Speaker 1: know that because Bones isn't my real last name. I've

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Speaker 1: used it my entire professional career, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: they know that. I think sometimes they think it's a

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Speaker 1: typo because it looks like a pirate, Like what is

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Speaker 1: this guy? I think it's a pirate or something. You

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Speaker 1: think that they really just think that it's it is? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. That's what I think because I think

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Speaker 1: it's a ridiculou less name. Okay, Um, you have a

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Speaker 1: lot of emojis in your Instagram bio. I looked at it. Um,

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Speaker 1: what's your favorite emoji? Uh? Maybe the yellow heart? Okay,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna roll through some of these and don't be

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Speaker 1: done and we'll see if you have a TV show

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Speaker 1: before we end. Uh you ever meet Tom from MySpace? No? Never,

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Speaker 1: let's see you know, God, I would I never got

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Speaker 1: any sort of notoriety until Tom was like working at

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01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: the subway down the street. You know it was? There

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Speaker 1: was no Uh, let's see, have you ever played a

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Speaker 1: celebrity's wedding? Yes? Is? Where did you sign an NDA

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Speaker 1: where you can't say whose it was? No? But I

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01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: probably shouldn't say that would Yes, I sang at fiance's wedding?

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Speaker 1: Everyone did your dad bring famous musicians around the house? Um? Uh?

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01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: I got to go into the studio and meet them.

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01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: So I got to meet Fleutwood Mac over the years,

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Speaker 1: early on and a bunch of people. What do you

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01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: remember about your first show ever after? Just say your

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01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: first show where you kind of blew up on my

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01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: Space and like, hey, go play for somebody? What do

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01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 1: you remember about that? But before I got signed, because

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01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: there's a let's just say first show, I don't know

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01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 1: what comes to mind first show. Um I can't. I

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01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: mean honestly that I sang at like a couple like

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Speaker 1: hotel cafe in l A. And I did that a

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Speaker 1: couple of times before I got signed, or even right

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01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: after I got signed. And um again, I was green

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01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,439
Speaker 1: and I was it was nerve racking, and everyone could

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01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: tell I was just this like very shy, quiet person,

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Speaker 1: but I yeah, I did it. We're gonna end on

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Speaker 1: this one. Instead of a last meal, you're offered a

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01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: last song, and this is what you listen to before

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Speaker 1: you die. You don't have to come out a crime again,

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01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, death row. You're just a hundred. What song

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Speaker 1: do you pick? Bob Marley Waiting in Vain? Is that

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01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: also your favorite song? Or is that just a song

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Speaker 1: you've decided? No, it's my favorite song, I think because

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Speaker 1: I love when a song you can listen to when

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Speaker 1: you're happy, you're sad, and it can either way make

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Speaker 1: you feel good. And um, I'll be like, I think

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01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: every Bob song does that. But Waiting in Vain when

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Speaker 1: it comes on, my heart just gets happy. Who was

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Speaker 1: the first is I'm just asking this because when you

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Speaker 1: talk about that reminds me because you mentioned John Mayer,

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Speaker 1: who's my favorite artist. He was the first person that

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Speaker 1: ever wrote songs that I went, oh, I felt that

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Speaker 1: and and that was a big part of my life

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Speaker 1: to go, oh, people write songs how I feel. He's

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01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: you know, we're around the same age. He was saying

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01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: things He's like, I was like, oh, I get that.

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01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: Who was that artist for you where they're writing things

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Speaker 1: and you're hearing things and you're going, oh my God,

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Speaker 1: like I get that. I think it was John Mayor too.

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Speaker 1: So like my three most influenced, like the artists that

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01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: have influenced me is Lauren Hill for singing, and then

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Speaker 1: Fleetwood Mac for like just the kind of music that

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Speaker 1: they do. Um, I mean everything really, and then John

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Speaker 1: Mayor because his lyrics. Honestly, so many of his songs.

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Speaker 1: I you know a line and it's just so brilliant.

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01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 1: So I mean even even his line it says fear

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01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: as a friend who's misunderstood. I always loved hearing that

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Speaker 1: line because I helped it. It tries I try to

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01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: look at fear in a different way because of that.

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Speaker 1: I think he's brilliant. The which Forever John Mayor song

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Speaker 1: before I tell you my story, it's a tough one.

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01:03:58,320 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: I'll tell you mine. Then I should think about it.

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Speaker 1: Mine to stop this train. Yeah, continue My favorite collection

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01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: of music period ever. Again, if you were born in

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01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: the eighties and you love that kind of music, it

1395
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 1: just it speaks to me time period, my vibe and

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Speaker 1: his line. I'm so scared of getting older. I'm only

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Speaker 1: good at being young. I was like, you're just saying

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying without me saying it. And it was

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Speaker 1: the first time that I was like, I felt poorly

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Speaker 1: connected to a song. Well. I think that's the best

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01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: part about songwriting is someone, any person can write something

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Speaker 1: that they're going through and it could be about something

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01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: completely different or the same, and then the listener can

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01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: relate and feel like they're not alone. And I think

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01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: that's why we all of songwriting so much, is that

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01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: it connects us and it helps us feel like, whether

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01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: it's good or bad, we're not alone. We're in it together.

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Speaker 1: My favorite John Mayor song, You've Had No I'm just

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01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm indecisive. This is very a lot of pressure. Um honestly,

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Speaker 1: I love Room for Squares and um continue, those are

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01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 1: my favorite albums of his, and so I can't decide.

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01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: I think Gravity might be one of them, but I

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Speaker 1: can't decide. Okay, we'll leave there. Then everybody check out

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01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: Gone West at Gone West Music on Instagram, and I'm

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01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: telling you you probably think they're good. But again, I'll

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Speaker 1: say it too. When you guys played, I remember I

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01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: remember talking to Justin, just hitting him up and Embo

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01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: and going, oh my god, you guys are good because

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01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: in the land of giants, everybody's large. Here. Yeah, this

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01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: is the land of giants where everybody's good. But then

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01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: there are a few where you go, oh, there's like

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01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: something something there. Um. Yeah, and you guys were that

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01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: good all singing together. I definitely, I definitely wouldn't say

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01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 1: it if I didn't mean it too like. Um alright,

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01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: so um follow at Gone West Music. You can follow

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01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 1: Colby at Colby kel A. I'm not even gonna try

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Speaker 1: to spell it. Um it's Colby Kaye for those listening. Colby,

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Speaker 1: good to see you. Yeah, I hope, I hope this

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Speaker 1: was fun for you. An hour and eight minutes, did we?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is great. Thanks for having

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Speaker 1: me over at your house. Now time hour too ready,

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Speaker 1: Mike alright, Episode to twenty eighth Colby CALLI thanks everybody.

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Speaker 1: M hmmm.