1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, happy 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: happy Fox Sports Saturday, where the fellas in for FITZI, 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: Figgie Kevin Figures. I'm Anthony Gargana would come to live 5 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: from the tire rack dot Com studios. 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I'm 15 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: sure I was curious about you got about how you're 16 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: feeling because out there you got two teams, and you know, 17 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: Lakers and Clippers are both interesting because the West is 18 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: pretty wide open. You know, O Case, he's terrific. But 19 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: a team like the Clippers I think could be dangerous 20 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: now that they're healthy. I was curious what you think 21 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: because I look at the Clippers and I go, you 22 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: know what, that's a team that actually can make a run. 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 4: Definitely, and they fly under the radar because obviously the 24 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 4: Lakers make the big splash with Luca and incorporating him, 25 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 4: and people forget, Yeah, Kawhi Leonard when he's healthy is 26 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 4: probably a top five player in the NBA. He just 27 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 4: doesn't get talked about much because quite honestly, he's not 28 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 4: on the court that often. But he's been back, he's 29 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 4: been healthy these last thirty or so games. He's been 30 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 4: playing amazingly and they've won what six seven games in 31 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 4: a row at this point in time, and just the 32 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 4: way that they're built, They're built like your modern NBA team. 33 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 4: You have your superstar on Kawhi Leonard. James Harten has 34 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 4: had a resurgence this year. I just had a triple 35 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 4: double the other night. Norm Palell has been a great 36 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 4: third option, and Zubots has been is one of the 37 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 4: better big men in the entire league that doesn't get 38 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 4: talked about. So they have depth, They have depth on 39 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 4: the wing, They have guys who can create for themselves 40 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 4: and other people. They just don't get talked about a lot. 41 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 4: They fly under the radar because after the last couple 42 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 4: of years when it was Kawhi and Paul George and 43 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 4: they were thought to be a perennial Western Conference contender 44 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 4: every single year, and that obviously didn't flush its way 45 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 4: out because both of those guys dealt with so many 46 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 4: different injuries. I think they just kind of fell by 47 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 4: the wayside and people just stopped paying attention to them. 48 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 4: But all of a sudden you mentioned the bunched up 49 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 4: Western Conference. At this point, I like the Clippers' chances 50 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 4: as good as anybody's out West. I like Oklahoma City too, 51 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 4: but as great of a regular season as they had, 52 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 4: I can see a scenario where the Clippers beat Oklahoma City, 53 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 4: or the Lakers beat Oklahoma City, the Golden State Warriors 54 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 4: potentially beating them in a matchup as well. This is 55 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 4: as wide open of a conference I can remember in 56 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 4: the Western Conference of the NBA for a long, long 57 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:51,839 Speaker 4: streat of time. 58 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I was thinking that too, because it's funny 59 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: the East has I think no trauma, right, I mean, 60 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: you get two teams, and probably it's going to be Boston. 61 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 4: I think Cleveland could give him a run, but I mean, 62 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 4: if you, if you tell me make a prediction right now, 63 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 4: I'm taking Boston. But it certainly wouldn't surprise me if 64 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 4: Cleveland made a run with them. 65 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: For sure, yeah, and I and I think it's and 66 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 2: that's it. I don't think there's anybody else that could 67 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: beat Boston other than the Cavs. 68 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 4: No, not, not in the least bit. 69 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: Not the Knicks. 70 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 4: No, the Knicks can't be anybody over five hundred. That's 71 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 4: been their issue all year long. So, right, when you 72 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: get into the postseason and you play nothing but good teams, 73 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 4: that's not shaping up well for you. 74 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: Now I'm looking at it and I'm going and that's 75 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: it's gonna be weird because we just come off a 76 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: tournament that I thought was great and I thought it 77 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: was electrified. 78 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: I love this tournament. 79 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it, probably more than I had in the 80 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: past ten years. This tournament. Yeah, I thought it was 81 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: interesting basketball. At times, it was really good basketball. You know, 82 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: we saw our fair share of some rock fight moments, right, Yeah, 83 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: But it was a great tournament and it was good. 84 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: And it's satiated in a year that I missed basketball 85 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: because I just didn't think the NBA was good, was quality. 86 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: I felt satiated by the tournament. 87 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, there was a lot of great play in 88 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: the I guess the issue that a lot of people 89 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 4: had is that there weren't a lot of upsets, There 90 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 4: wasn't a lot of drama. 91 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 3: There weren't a. 92 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 4: Wholehole lot of buzzer beaters. But for me, I enjoyed 93 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 4: the fact that we had four number one seeds make 94 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 4: it to the final four, that the best of the 95 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,679 Speaker 4: best all season long actually got a chance to score 96 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 4: off against each other on the biggest stage. That's what 97 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 4: you want. You don't want to see, and I don't 98 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 4: want to disrespect anybody, but no one wants to see 99 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 4: George Mason play Murray State in the Final four or 100 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 4: the Elite eight. So upsets are great until they're not. 101 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 4: And the fact that we didn't get really many of 102 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: substance or any of substance maybe took a little bit 103 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 4: away from this year's tournament, Anthony, But to your point, 104 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 4: it just meant that the better teams made it deeper 105 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 4: into the tournament and faced each other, and we just 106 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 4: saw more quality back basketball. I mean, the final four, 107 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 4: both games were close, and generally speaking that's not the case. 108 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 4: It really hasn't been the case in recent memory. But 109 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 4: it was close because you had all four quality teams, 110 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 4: the best teams in the country, squaring off against each 111 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 4: other on the biggest stage. So I agree with you. 112 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 4: This is probably one of my favorite tournaments in recent 113 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 4: memory because we had the best of the best make 114 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 4: it to the very end and play at a high level. Yeah. 115 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to say I didn't miss the Cinderella thing. 116 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: I didn't know over the years, I thought it was deluded. 117 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: I thought there was so much parody, that Cinderella wasn't 118 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: a true Cinderella, and that you know, she got around 119 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: too much. 120 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 4: Yeah it was. She wasn't special, man. 121 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: Cinderella is only special if she comes around every few years, right, 122 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: every once in a while, makes a run to the 123 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 2: you know, sweet sixteen elite a you know once the 124 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: way it was it was two months it was again, 125 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: I thought, not special. Yeah, and that's why I like 126 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 2: the four to one seeds and I'd be fine with 127 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: it for a while. 128 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 3: Just give me good basketball, you know. 129 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 4: I think this is gonna be more of the norm 130 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 4: as we get into this nil situation. If if we 131 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 4: want to get into the Nico iam Aliava thing, we 132 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 4: can at some point today. But from a basketball standpoint, 133 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 4: and even in football, what's happening now is these mid majors. 134 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 4: You know, if you're a good player for Liberty or something. 135 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 4: Let's just say, and you had a good showing in 136 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 4: the tournament or your conference tournament. Well, what's to stop 137 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 4: BYU who has a lot of influx of money nowadays, 138 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 4: or Old miss or Michigan State for saying like, hey, 139 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 4: why don't you transfer out and come join us. So, 140 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 4: these mid majors that would make these deep runs usually 141 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 4: are senior leaden teams from you know, non Power five 142 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 4: schools who have a lot of experience, and because they 143 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 4: have that cohesion, they end up beating teams that are 144 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 4: kind of throwing together at the last minute or have 145 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 4: a super freshman. You're just not gonna see that a lot. 146 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 4: What you're gonna end up seeing is great players are 147 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 4: really good players from mid major programs are now gonna 148 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 4: be poached by Power five programs and just gonna bump 149 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 4: those up more and more while taking away from the 150 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 4: group of five. So I think what we're gonna see 151 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 4: in the NCAA tournament moving forward, at least until more 152 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 4: of this nil situation transfer portal situation gets flushed out, 153 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 4: I think you're gonna see more and more of the 154 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 4: blue buds and the higher seeds making deeper runs in 155 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 4: the tournaments and less and less upsets. 156 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally see that the landscape is about to 157 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: change further because there's gonna be some rulings. Here's the 158 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: one thing, and I guess we'll get it to the 159 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: n ECO thing shortly. But here's the one thing. I 160 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: don't know how they're gonna get a handle on this cap. 161 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: They were talking about a twenty million dollar cap. Yeah, 162 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: that's it's impossible. You got these quarterbacks, they're gonna eat 163 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: up so much of this stuff. It's impossible to have 164 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: a cap where you're gonna run. You think SEC is 165 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: gonna be okay with you know, having a cap for 166 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: basketball and football now, of course not well. 167 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 4: And the way there's gonna be ways to circumvent this 168 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 4: that there always is. So you're gonna have the twenty 169 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 4: million dollars that if the programs are gonna get based 170 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 4: on the house settlement that's gonna be settled here within 171 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 4: the next few months. It seems like, yeah, on top 172 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 4: of nil deals. So you're gonna have these nil collectives 173 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 4: talking to the universities and say, all right, we'll get 174 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 4: reach get a couple of million from this pot. Get 175 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 4: a couple of hundred thousand from this pot. Let's throw 176 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 4: it at this guy, see what he can get. And 177 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 4: so it's gonna be very interesting the inner workings of 178 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 4: NIL and these collectives with these individual schools and the 179 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 4: actual money that the schools get themselves, and how they 180 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 4: melt those two things together to try to put together 181 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 4: their roster, really buy their rosters. This is all free 182 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 4: agency at this point in time. That's all it is. 183 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's gonna be interesting because you go, all right, well, 184 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: the best kids, right, the most pot, they're going to 185 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: get paid because they're going to Their brand is going 186 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: to going to command that, right. But there's gonna be lawsuits. 187 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: Well it's not fair. Well what about this athlete. It's 188 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 2: just so muddy. I don't know how. I don't know 189 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: how they come to some sort of some sort of 190 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: conclusion with this thing. I don't know there's going to 191 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 2: be any kind of rules or anything in place. 192 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 4: The only thing that I can think of, and I 193 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 4: still think we're all ways away from this and all 194 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 4: of this is going to be caught up in court 195 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 4: battles for the next few years. I do wonder if 196 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 4: at some point in time, College football, and maybe to 197 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 4: a certain degree, college basketball will be tougher because the 198 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 4: tournament is run by the n c double A and 199 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 4: they're trying to hold on for dear life for whatever 200 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 4: power they still do have. But whether these guys are 201 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 4: allowed to unionize and whether they become basically professionals at 202 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 4: that point time and they actually negotiate contracts and get 203 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 4: a piece of TV revenues, because then now all of 204 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 4: a sudden, if you have a collectively bargained situation, now 205 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 4: you can talk about a salary cap and how much 206 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 4: money can be given to a certain players or it's 207 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 4: a certain to entire roster as you have it. 208 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: I don't want anything to do with that. 209 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 4: Oh, I know they don't. But this thing gets caught 210 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 4: up in the courts more and more and the more 211 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 4: and more money that these universities end up making, uh, 212 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 4: and at the expense of the kids overall. I think 213 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 4: that's the closer and closer we're getting to this. The 214 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 4: n CUAA is already is as toothless as it has been, 215 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 4: as it ever has been. It's alwaying its power day 216 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 4: by day. So I think ultimately that's what's gonna end 217 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 4: up happening. How that actually envisions, you know, what ends 218 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 4: up looking like. I don't know, but I do think 219 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 4: that's going to be the ultimate end game. 220 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. 221 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: It'll be their own separate organisms with their own commissioners. 222 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: Like you know, you always hear about Nick Saban as 223 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: a possible commissioner or Coach k as a possible you know, 224 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: basket ball commissioner, where the NCAA basically goes by the 225 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 2: wayside and the conferences have all the power, and. 226 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 4: You could totally envision that. 227 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: The other thing that is that I heard was that 228 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: you'll see these billionaire professional sports owners come in to 229 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 2: play here heads funk guys the whole thing and the 230 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: license the college program. So you let's take Josh Harris 231 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: who owns the Commanders and the Sixers and the EPL team. 232 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: He could go to Ohio State and say, all right, 233 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to lease Ohio State football and I will 234 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: run it under my enterprise. You know, within you're buying 235 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: in for ten years and there's some sort of rev 236 00:11:51,960 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 2: share between you know, the owner and the university. 237 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 4: I look, I mean, I feel like this is that's 238 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 4: where this is going. Because even big business owners like 239 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 4: Josh Harris, Like, they know the giant revenue coup or 240 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 4: should say the giant revenue getter that the college football 241 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 4: is at this point in time. Look at the college 242 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: Football Playoff and how popular that was. That's only going 243 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 4: to continue to grow. So if you're able to basically invest, 244 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 4: which is what this would be, you know you're going 245 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 4: to get a giant return on that investment because it's 246 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 4: a blue blood program and what it's gonna do. Unfortunately, 247 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 4: if you're a big college football fan, it's just going 248 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 4: to grow the divide even more and more so between 249 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 4: the halves and the half nots because those types of 250 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 4: owners are not going to buy into you know, smaller 251 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 4: They're not going to buy into NC State, no dis right, right, 252 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 4: They're gonna buy Michigan, Ohio, State, USC, you know, Florida 253 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 4: like those are those are the So it's only going 254 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 4: to widen the gap even more, which is I think 255 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 4: is a little bit unfortunate. But unfortunately we know that 256 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 4: like this is the business, it's all about money. That 257 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 4: that's the most important thing. Is that's about competition and 258 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 4: more about the almighty dollar. 259 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's wow, I have this conversation, uh, 260 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: yesterday with an A. D who's on the on all 261 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 2: these committees, and it's it's crazy, like the stuff like 262 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 2: they don't even know how this stuff's gonna want to 263 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 2: wind up we're dealing. And that I heard from from 264 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: that person that they were talking about colleges programs doing 265 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,599 Speaker 2: deals with high school kids where they're paying him in 266 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 2: high school. 267 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 4: Wow, well I don't even I mean, well, I wout 268 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 4: to think that in and of itself would be an 269 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 4: n C double A violation again as toothless as the 270 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 4: n C double A is, if you are paying a 271 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 4: kid who doesn't even play for you yet, how is 272 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 4: that not an improper benefit? You're basically that's a. That's 273 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 4: that's a that's recruitment. I'll give you one hundred grand this. 274 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: Sign defensive end bonus, Like you're signed to play at 275 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: this university and you're going to get X amount of dollars. 276 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 4: So you've already committed at that point as a high 277 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 4: school kid. You're saying you've committed to this school, and 278 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 4: for committed to this school, you will now be paid 279 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 4: even though you haven't suited up yet. That's what this 280 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 4: person said. Yeah, that's interesting. 281 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: That's too sure they they're committed that they know they're 282 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: committed to you. 283 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, but the problem is, are are these actual binding contracts? 284 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 4: Because there's a kid I forget his name who just 285 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 4: transferred to Baylor and Baylor gave him a million dollars 286 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 4: or something like that, and in a week later he 287 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 4: transfers to BYU because they offered him three million dollars. 288 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 4: And it's like, well, all right, so what happens to 289 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 4: Baylor in that situation that opened up a roster spot 290 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 4: and agreed to give this guy money. Who's to say 291 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 4: that a star defensive end can't get one hundred and 292 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 4: fifty thousand dollars from Penn State. And then all of 293 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 4: a sudden, here comes Ohio State saying like, oh, you 294 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 4: know what will give you two hundred and fifty thousand. 295 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 4: It's like, oh, yeah, forget you guys. I'm gonna switching 296 00:14:58,360 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 4: my commitment to these guys. 297 00:14:59,720 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 298 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: Well, the minute you catch the check, you're you're down 299 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: to that program, right, Like it's I mean, are you 300 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: signed the contract and catch the check if. 301 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 4: It's actually a contract? And sure, but can you sign 302 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 4: a legal a contract if you're not an employee? Like 303 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 4: that well, well, if you're getting paid, but I don't know, 304 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 4: I mean, what is the what's the pin to paper? 305 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 4: What does that look what does that transaction look like? 306 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 4: Is the issue. That makes sense if you're an employee 307 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 4: and you're signing an actual employment contract. But the way 308 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 4: that the the these scholarships and the way that you're 309 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 4: you know, being a student athlete, which is a ridiculous notion, 310 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 4: I just don't I just don't know how that necessarily flies. 311 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 4: Gods can transfer left and right every other day if 312 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 4: they want to to the highest bidder, and it's totally unregulated. 313 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 4: And these are not binding contracts. They're just right now, 314 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 4: they're just scholarships. 315 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: But once you once you accept money, and you actually 316 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 2: accept the money, then that part of its binding. 317 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 4: You would think, I mean, you'd have a lawsuit. 318 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: Your services are now required, like you have committed your 319 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: services to that university. 320 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 3: Give you this. I'm not a lawyer. 321 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: I'm sure all this stuff can be challenged and employment 322 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: contracts and everything else, but there I could just tell 323 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: you off this conversation that that's what they're talking about, 324 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: like too, so there's no more Hey, uh, you know 325 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 2: you're a junior, right here's Figgie, junior in high school, 326 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: stand out linebacker. 327 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 3: I want you. 328 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 2: I would offer you whatever you get two million bucks. 329 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: You're we're gonna get a signing bonus two hundred thousand dollars. Yep, 330 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: you're a junior. You take the money, sign the contract. 331 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: You can't now, even if you're great, you can't now 332 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: accept No, no, no, look at this. Notre Dame's coming 333 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: after you. Now you can't do it? 334 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 3: All right. 335 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 4: Well, one thing that I will say, it's also because 336 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 4: it's also hard to bind a sixteen or seventeen year 337 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 4: old to. 338 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 3: Something like that. 339 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 4: But one thing that the Grambling State had football coach 340 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 4: said this last weekend, and I thought, it's a good point. 341 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 4: If you are reach a commitment with a player who 342 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 4: plays for your program or commits to your program, and 343 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 4: then he decides to leave for a bigger payday, that 344 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 4: program that he's leaving should be compensated somehow, whether it's 345 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 4: by taking a piece of the nil money from the 346 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 4: kid or from the actual program itself, because at least 347 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 4: the school is getting something out of it. Recruiting. You 348 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 4: know this. You've covered college sports for a long period 349 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 4: of time. It's so hard it's so cutthroat, and you 350 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 4: think you put in all this legwork to get a guy, 351 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 4: even now that you've enticed in with money, he signs 352 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 4: his pen to paper, and then a week and a 353 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 4: half later he says, yeah, you know what, Sorry, these 354 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 4: guys are off for me one hundred and fifty thousand 355 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 4: dollars more. Even you know you have there has to 356 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 4: be something else in it for the other school to 357 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 4: be able to let a guy go, because now you're, 358 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 4: you know, behind the eight ball, and you have a 359 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 4: roster spot that's now empty, and you had this guy, 360 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 4: this five star guy you committed to, who you thought 361 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 4: committed to you, and all of a sudden he's gone. 362 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 4: So this will ask me a better way to regulate something. 363 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: Why, it's just what's crazy? It's absolutely crazy? 364 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 3: All right. 365 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: So we got lots to do because we're gonna get 366 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 2: deeper into that conversation a lot of draft stuff. Oh 367 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 2: all right, So we're going to dive into a lot 368 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 2: of the NFL draft stuff. And you know, I mean, 369 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 2: it sure appears to me that Jackson Dart is going 370 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: to go. 371 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 4: Ahead of Shudor Sanders. Wow. 372 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: So if you're talking to a bunch of people over 373 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 2: the last week. That seems to be a certainty. We'll 374 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 2: get into it. 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But it's a pretty heavy draft day. 402 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: My brother Yea, I talking a lot of people. I 403 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 2: think Dark goes ahead of Shador. 404 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 4: Now is that just because of his because shdra Sanders, 405 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 4: for you know, as great as numbers as he's put 406 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 4: up at Colorado and not having an offensive line, all 407 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 4: of that is well documented. Is this strictly because he 408 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 4: just doesn't wow you with anything, and he's just solid. 409 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 4: He doesn't have a strong arm, but it's good. He's 410 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 4: not a phenomenal athlete, but he's solid. He processes solid well, 411 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 4: but he's not spectacular at it. And Jackson Dart's a 412 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 4: better athlete, has a stronger arm plate I guess at 413 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 4: a higher pedigree, higher competition in the SEC. Is that 414 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 4: you're why you're hearing that he's all of a sudden leaping. 415 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 2: Above all the above, all the above, and here's the thing, 416 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: like and again, you got to read through this stuff. 417 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 3: I was funny. 418 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: I was talking to somebody and we were having this conversation, 419 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: real good friend of mine in the league, and he's like, dude, 420 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: he goes, why the subject of mock drafts came up? 421 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 2: And he's like why, because why are you gonna answer 422 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 2: me a question? Why did people read that stuff and 423 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 2: take it as gospel? And I go, well, you know, 424 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: it's more fun than anything else, right, And you got 425 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 2: guys that really know what they're what they're doing, right, 426 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 2: like you know Daniel Jeremiah. You know, guys that really 427 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 2: are into it, that are assessing talent and when they're 428 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 2: ranking prospects, that to me is more has more oomph 429 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 2: than a mock right because a lot of it's beauty 430 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 2: in the eye of the beholder. How the board falls, right, 431 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 2: Like teams have had their board set for two months, right, right, 432 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 2: Like nothing's changed. Yeah, And so we were talking about 433 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: he goes, you know, it's funny, he said, the less 434 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: somebody talks about a player, the more they like. 435 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 4: Them, right, Like, yeah, if you don't hear. 436 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: Any buzz about a guy, right, that's when you go, 437 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: all right, well there's there's definitely some some heat there 438 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 2: the shador thing. Evaluators have looked at him, and it's 439 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: less to do with I know, people talk about interviews 440 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: and that he's a cocky kid or confident kid. However 441 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 2: you want to look at it, none of that. It's 442 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 2: more about he does it. You said, wow, yeah, right, 443 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: there's nothing that he does that wowser. 444 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 4: Right, which means here's what he does. 445 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 2: And talking to this person and I look, I've baldy 446 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 2: and I've done all the film for probably the top 447 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 2: two hundred players, so we've looked at all the film 448 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 2: and I you know, I mean you could see it. 449 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: I mean he throws a really nice deep ball like 450 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 2: he could he could drop it in a bucket down 451 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 2: the field. But his arms not great, Like it's not 452 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: a it's not a plus arm that you go, oh 453 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 2: my god. 454 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 3: He's not mobile. He's more of a pocket guy. 455 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: So like, you know, what is he And he comes 456 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 2: from an offense that was not a real pro offense. 457 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 3: Right where he made a lot of NFL throws. 458 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, Now that doesn't mean he can't be successful at 459 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 4: the next level. That doesn't mean he can't be a 460 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 4: really good player. I guess that the question is, does 461 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 4: that mean he should be taken in the top five 462 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 4: or top ten of the draft? Is what we're as 463 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 4: what we're saying, because I mean, the league is littered it. 464 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 4: History is littered with guys who have been successful without 465 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 4: super strong arms, without being fleet of foot. So he 466 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 4: can be a good player. He can beat Tua now. 467 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 4: Tua was taken in the top five I think it 468 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 4: was sixth or seventh overall, but he landed with the 469 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 4: right offense, with the right players around him, and he's 470 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 4: turned himself into an above average NFL quarterback. And maybe 471 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 4: Chedor can do that if he's in the right situation. 472 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 4: When you're talking about drafting a guy in the top three, 473 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,719 Speaker 4: top five, top six, generally speaking, especially at the quarterback position, 474 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 4: you're talking about a generational talent. Somebody that can come in, 475 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 4: can be scheme diverse, can do whatever, make all the 476 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 4: deep throws, can really carry a team. And I don't 477 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 4: believe that Shrdor Sanders, as talented as he is. I 478 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 4: don't think Jackson Dart, at least right now, is that 479 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 4: kind of player either. They just happen to get artificially 480 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 4: bumped up because their quarterbacks. 481 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 3: Yeah even can right now. 482 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,239 Speaker 2: I think people to cam Ward to go, yeah, like 483 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: he's a legit prospect and he's the best prospect of 484 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 2: this group, but he's pumped up because of this group. 485 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 4: Right thousand percent. And I don't know philosophically, there's some people, Anthony, 486 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 4: who look at and say, take a quarterback until you 487 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 4: find one, until you find the right one. You know, 488 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 4: just draft a guy. It doesn't matter if you overdraft him. 489 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 4: If it's a team need and you think he can 490 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 4: be good, do you want to work with him? Then 491 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 4: find And there's others who say, like, well, just stay 492 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 4: true to the board. If there's not a quarterback who 493 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 4: knocks your socks off and you have the first, second, 494 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 4: third pick in the draft, you don't just take a 495 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 4: guy for the sake of taking them because you feel 496 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 4: you need to fill that position, because you can miss 497 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 4: out on a generational talent. I mean, I look at 498 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 4: the forty nine ers from a few years ago and 499 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 4: it was different. I know they traded up for Trey Lance, 500 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 4: who's now one is what third fourtheen whatever it is 501 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 4: after signing with the Charges this week. But I mean 502 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 4: the players that they passed up. He is ridiculous in 503 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 4: that draft. Jalen Waddle, Pene Sewell Pats or Tan Jamar Chase, 504 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 4: all these guys they could have had, but they traded 505 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 4: up for Trey Lance, who didn't play for a year, 506 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 4: had sat out the COVID season, didn't play against great competition, 507 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 4: but they fell in love with the metrics and all that, 508 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, the guys on the verge 509 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 4: of not being in the league because you felt the 510 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 4: quarterback position was important enough to take to reach on 511 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 4: a guy. I don't know what camp you fall on, Anthony, 512 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 4: but for me, unless I'm sure about somebody, I'm not 513 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 4: gonna be I'm not gonna take him that high in 514 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 4: the draft. I'm not the top five. There's too much, 515 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 4: there's too rich with talent for me to take a 516 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 4: flyer on someone who I'm not one hundred percent sure 517 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 4: about or at least eighty. 518 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 2: Right, And that's the point. Are you going to pass 519 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 2: up Abdual Carter, Travis Hunter? Right, Mason Graham right? Are 520 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 2: you gonna you're going to pass that up? 521 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? 522 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 2: Those kids you know Travis Hunter is legit abdual Carter, 523 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,719 Speaker 2: and you know, the Eagles just showed you how you win. Correct, 524 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: Eagles show you how to win because you went into trenches. 525 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 2: Speaking of which, I gotta go off topic for a 526 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: second because I had uh I was. I had dinner 527 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: with some of the Eagles people this week and they 528 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 2: were talking about we're just talking about the run and everything, 529 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 2: and I thought one of the really interesting byproducts that 530 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 2: they were talking about is they were so physical, they 531 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 2: were so they were so nasty too, Like you know, 532 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: just to to put it like that, that teams tapped out, 533 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 2: They felt like teams were going to tap out at 534 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: some point during the game. Wow, that they really believe 535 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: that in the third fourth quarter at some point they 536 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 2: felt like other teams would tap out, which is is 537 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 2: when you go back and look at it, and having 538 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: covered that season pretty closely, that's the truth. Like those 539 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 2: long runs by Saquon a lot of times he was 540 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 2: just untouched, right and teams just had nothing. They were 541 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: they had nothing and left. And they said that they 542 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 2: knew they had identified Joe Tooney as the weak link, 543 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 2: like he had played really well when they kicked him 544 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,719 Speaker 2: out to tackle right right. He really saved the Chiefs 545 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 2: bake in a lot of ways, but they felt like 546 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: he would not hold up and that that line could 547 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 2: not hold up against them. 548 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, well they wear you out because I mean they're rotating, 549 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 4: you know, five six guys in every other play that 550 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 4: you don't get a break, which is it boggles my 551 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 4: mind how other teams don't borrow or steal the Horry 552 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 4: Roseman method of how to build a team. You build 553 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 4: in the trenches. And people have been saying this for years. 554 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 4: Your offensive front, your defensive front, that's where you make 555 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 4: your hay Like if so, if you if you're a 556 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 4: team at the top of the draft and you have 557 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 4: let's say a stud defensive end and a stud defensive tackle, 558 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 4: take another one. You know, if you're the Raiders and 559 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 4: you have Max Crosby and you saw Christian Wilkinson who 560 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 4: got injured early last season, draft Mason Graham, do the 561 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 4: old Al Davis built strength on strength because I mean, 562 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 4: if you have a if it's a line that can 563 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 4: have deck and dominate a game. Who gives a rip 564 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 4: what your linebackers can do or your corners can do 565 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 4: when they only have to defend for a half a 566 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 4: second because the quarterback is running for his life and 567 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 4: the running back has no holes to run through. It 568 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 4: makes all the sense in the world. Oh yeah, oh yeah. 569 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: And it was interesting the level they also bought into it, right, 570 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,479 Speaker 2: like you got to buy into it. The one thing 571 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 2: the Eagles have is really good coaching, like assistant coaches, 572 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: like you've heard of Jeff Stoutlin yep, who's their O 573 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: line coach. He's probably the best O line coach in football. 574 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: But they have, you know a number of these really good, 575 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: really good assistant coaches, veteran guys, you know, guys that 576 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 2: have been around that Alabama and Georgia and not just 577 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: the NFL. 578 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 3: And one of the things that they. 579 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: Said was that to a man like the NFL, week 580 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 2: usually goes like this, like on Monday, you come in 581 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 2: for treatment and once in a while, you know, depending 582 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 2: on the team, you'll watch you'll watch film and. 583 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 3: Then get treating me and go home. 584 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 4: Right. 585 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 2: Well, they made it a workday and they would move 586 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 2: their off day on Tuesday. They had everybody catch their 587 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 2: off day on Tuesday. But instead of doing the Monday 588 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: Tuesday thing, they just did the Tuesday thing. And they 589 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: were putting on pads midweek, so when they were coming 590 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 2: back on Wednesday, they were putting on pads. In fact, 591 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: even during the playoff run, they were putting on pads. 592 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 3: And I think they bought into that. 593 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's part of it became part of their 594 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 4: identity thing. Yeah, it's part of their identity, you know, 595 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 4: of being a being a physical football team, which you 596 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 4: don't see nowadays. Everybody goes away from you know, padded 597 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 4: practices and taking time off and getting guys rest, which 598 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 4: is fine, and it can work. That's fine. I mean, look, 599 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 4: Bill Walt did that way back in the day with 600 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 4: the forty nine ers. He wants to make sure his 601 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 4: guys were fresh. Hedn't want to beat his beat, have 602 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 4: his team beat each other up during the week. So 603 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 4: it worked for them. The Eagles have found a system 604 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 4: that works for them, might not work for every And 605 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 4: I think you brought up a good point too that 606 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 4: gets overlooked because it's kind of sight unseen for a 607 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 4: lot of people who just kind of chime in on 608 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 4: Sunday and watch games. The importance of your assistant coaches, 609 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 4: usually when dynasties start to crumble, is because your assistant 610 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 4: coaching pool starts to get diluted, and your your coaches 611 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 4: get poached and you don't replace those coaches with coaches 612 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 4: who are as good as them. You know, being able 613 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 4: to surround yourself with the right assistance is so key 614 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 4: to success in the NFL, and I think it's something 615 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,479 Speaker 4: that goes off and overlooked because a lot of fans 616 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 4: and players, a lot of fans just don't see who 617 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 4: the old line coach is, or who the quarterbacks coach is, 618 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 4: or who the linebackers coach is. All those guys make 619 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 4: such a huge difference in the development of the players 620 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 4: within the systems that they're playing in. And the best 621 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 4: organizations are the ones who are able to lose those 622 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 4: coaches like a Jonathan Gannon and then bring somebody else 623 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 4: in to replace him and not fall off. 624 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, now they have a we'll see, because right they 625 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 2: lost their another see yeah, Kellen Moore, that's right, and 626 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: Kellen who had come in and remember two years ago 627 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: they fell off. 628 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 3: They were ten and one and. 629 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 2: Slid and had had a catastrophic end of the season, right, 630 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 2: so much so that that Nick Serryani was about to 631 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 2: be fired. That's right, that's right, Right, and you know, 632 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 2: I do think he was parlously close to being fired 633 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 2: this year after they were two and two and had 634 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: the bye week, Like all that smoke around Nick getting 635 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 2: fired was real wow, like that was being talked about. 636 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 4: And now all of a sudden, he wons a super Bowl. 637 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 4: He's been the Super Bowl. He's going to get a 638 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 4: giant extension. He's probably gonna be lauded as one of 639 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 4: the best coaches in the NFL. 640 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, in a while. 641 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 4: It's so fickle. It's just so crazy how that works. 642 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but you look at last year. They lost 643 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 2: their OC Shane Stiken when he be came to coach 644 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: to the Colts, and uh they lost both their coordinators 645 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: right because you mentioned Gammon and it hurt them last 646 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 2: two years ago. So this year, you know, so Kellen 647 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 2: Moore came in and he did a great job. Now 648 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 2: he leaves to go to the coach the Saints. He 649 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 2: also takes nuss Meyer, who I love is the fact 650 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 2: he's the father of Smeer cor And uh so nus 651 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,719 Speaker 2: is going to be his OC with the Saints. Kevin 652 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: Petullo is going to be the new OC for the Eagles. Now, 653 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 2: again that's a new play caller j Jalen hurts another OC. 654 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 2: So that's you know, I mean that's going to be 655 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 2: their challenge, which is it? But you know it's to me, 656 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 2: it's fascinating about, you know, buildings. So we talk about 657 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 2: the draft and we talk about quarterbacks. To bring it 658 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 2: back to full circle, you know, you pass up Abdul Carter. 659 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 2: There's a price there. Yeah, absolutely, And look. 660 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 4: Maybe you hit a home run and cam Ward turns 661 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 4: out to be Jaden Daniels or something. I don't know 662 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 4: if that's going to do. That's gonna happen, but it's 663 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 4: a giant risk to take with someone who is not 664 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 4: lauded as a generational prospect. You know, you can draft 665 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 4: the Trevor Lawrence and he can have his inconsistencies and 666 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 4: injury issues and you can live with that because people 667 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 4: said if Trevor Lawrence had come out the year before, 668 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 4: he would have been the first overall pick. He was 669 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 4: seen as a generational talent. That was consensus. Everybody saw that. 670 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 4: Andrew Luck, whatever name you want to throw out there. 671 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 4: But when it's this, when you're saying cam Ward, if 672 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 4: you're looking at the total board and cam Ward is 673 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 4: the eighth best player regardless of position, and you're taking 674 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 4: them first. Overall, I really just questioned the decision making 675 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 4: and taking him just because you need a quarterback. If 676 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,919 Speaker 4: you're a team as bad as Tennessee, you need a lot. Yes, 677 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 4: the quarterback is the most important position, but if you 678 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 4: miss on that position. By the way, when you swung 679 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 4: and missed on what three of your last four first 680 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 4: round picks, I think it's been already. You can't afford 681 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 4: to take a risk that high and have it not 682 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 4: pay off for you. So I would go with the 683 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 4: safer ride out or just take the better player, the 684 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 4: better prospect. 685 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 2: The other aspect of to what your point is is like, 686 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 2: if your line's not intact. 687 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 4: But differences to make right, Yeah, like you're gonna kill 688 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 4: your quarterback and he's gonna get bad habits right and 689 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 4: you're gonna derail him. 690 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 2: You're you're better off building something a foundation before you 691 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 2: add the quarterback. 692 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 4: I agree. I know it's hard to find a young, generational, 693 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 4: great quarterback, but you can make yourself good because if 694 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 4: you make yourself a competitive team, you know, if and 695 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 4: when a quarterback comes available via the trade market or 696 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 4: what have you, then you can put yourself in a 697 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 4: position to move up and make those sort of moves 698 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 4: or like look at Hurts. Yeah, second round. 699 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 2: Pick right, like you know, and people think he was 700 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 2: overdrafted in the second round. 701 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 4: I remember that. You're right. 702 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 2: So you know, if you build the foundation you can, 703 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 2: you can. You know that's gonna help you and that 704 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 2: helps develop him. Having a line like that helps develop 705 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 2: him as aquarterback. 706 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 3: No doubt. All right, we had to take quick too. 707 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 2: Will come right back, Fellas Hanging on a Fox Sports 708 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 2: Saturday Fellas with Figgie. I'm cuz live from the Tirak 709 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 2: dot com studios. Don't forget the YouTube channel, Fox Sports 710 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 2: YouTube channel. Check it out, all kinds of videos, behind 711 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 2: the scenes stuff. I mean, you got it all at 712 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 2: five you check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube page. 713 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 2: Always good stuff happening right there. Fig Masters. Uh curious 714 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 2: the amateur who whizzes in raised Creek. 715 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, which is. 716 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 2: By the way, you know, a hero to all the 717 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 2: common men. And and I'm sure right. 718 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 4: They probably think it's kind of a need to the 719 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 4: nuts to all the pretentious people, you know, right, certain. 720 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 3: Degree, all the hackers, the weekend hackers. 721 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 4: All they go, yeah, bro, yeah, are. 722 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 3: You surprised that nothing happened. 723 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 4: I was, especially for a institution that takes itself as 724 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 4: seriously as the Masters does. And this wasn't like, you know, 725 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 4: Bryson didn't do this. There was an amateur kid who 726 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 4: just came up. And by the way, I understand why 727 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 4: he did what he did. It's like, look, man, I 728 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 4: don't want to leave the green, I gotta go. And 729 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 4: you know, he probably didn't really understand the impact of 730 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 4: it at the time, although the. 731 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,879 Speaker 2: Fighting is I don't think he think he. I think 732 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 2: he thought he was much more shrouded. 733 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 4: Correct, yes, had more of a cover. But let me 734 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 4: break a secret to you there. Man, you're playing in 735 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 4: the Masters. There are cameras everywhere, like literally everywhere. You're 736 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 4: not gonna hide. I do thought find it funny that 737 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 4: when he did his post his interview after the round 738 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 4: and they asked him if he do it again, he says, yeah, 739 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 4: if I was in that situation, I'd do it all 740 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 4: over again. So clearly no remorse he had. When you 741 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 4: had time to digest the entire moment about what happened, 742 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 4: he was like, no, I had to go, and I 743 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 4: had to go, so I did my business there's a 744 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 4: part of me, Anthony that respects that. 745 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 6: To be honest, I know, dude, you gotta go. You 746 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 6: gotta go, man, what are you gonna do? I mean, 747 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 6: it's what it is, man. It was great. What's your 748 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 6: opening thoughts? This is uh movie Day? 749 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 2: Saturday at the Masters, Justin Rose in the lead at 750 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 2: eight on their d Chambeau looks great. 751 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 4: He was amazing, right, Rory was tremendous. 752 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 2: Right, he had that bad luck on Thursday where he 753 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 2: finishes with the two doubles and comes back yesterday on fire. 754 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, the funny takeaway from Friday was Scheffler, you know, 755 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 4: on eighteen, just sitting in the shrubbery like how the 756 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 4: hell did I get here? But I think it's really 757 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 4: cool that Justin, Justin Rowse has gotten off to a 758 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 4: great start, even and even with him being having a lead, 759 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 4: he still I think has like a third or a 760 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 4: fourth best odds to you to come out on top 761 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 4: and the end actually win the tournament. I'd be excited 762 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 4: to see Bryson Deshambau knowing that we don't have Tiger 763 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 4: in the mix. You're really the only guys you can 764 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 4: ride home at this point are Bryson, r Rory are Scotty, 765 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 4: who's obviously the best in the world. So to see 766 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 4: some of the heavy hitters towards the top of the 767 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 4: leaderboard right now, and really a tight leader board at 768 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 4: this point, I think is really cool and encouraging for 769 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 4: a sport. To be honest with you. 770 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 2: It is, and I think it's gonna I think it's 771 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 2: going to really make for a fund a really fun Sunday, 772 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:32,919 Speaker 2: I hope. 773 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 5: So. 774 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 4: I think that's what we're all hoping for, because I 775 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 4: think the average person really only tunes in on Sunday. 776 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 4: And you know, if you have some of the heavy 777 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 4: hitters who you've heard of the top, toward the top 778 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 4: of the leaderboard, competing for a chance to win the 779 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 4: Green Jacket, I think that's all you can ask for. 780 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, could you imagine if it's you're sitting there on 781 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 2: Sunday and you got those all those heavyweights coming. 782 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 4: At it, you'd be amazing. 783 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 2: We're the fellas, all right, big al we're coming up 784 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 2: next to the draft. 785 00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio. 786 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,720 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 787 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 2: Good, good morning, well a happy, happy happy Fox Sports Saturday. 788 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 2: Kevin figures in for Jason Fitz I'm Anthony Gargana, where 789 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 2: the fellas every week right here on Fox Sports Radio, 790 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 2: coming alive from the tire rack dot Com studios. Tyrat 791 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 2: dot com will help you get there and unmatch selection, 792 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 2: fast free shipping, free road has a protection over ten 793 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 2: thousand recommended installers. 794 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 3: Tyrack dot com the way tire buying should be. 795 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 2: All right, So let's do this, my brother, we got 796 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 2: because we're all over the place. 797 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:39,800 Speaker 3: First hour. 798 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 2: I feel like I got a million things to talk 799 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 2: to you about, so we're kind of just kind of 800 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 2: rushing everything in. 801 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 3: Let's go since this is the last week in the NBA. 802 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 2: NBA this hour, then NFL Draft next hour before we 803 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 2: do the culmination. 804 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 4: Perfect, all right, Yeah, because. 805 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 3: I need to order. 806 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 2: I'm in order because I tend to what I tend 807 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 2: to have many many jumbled thoughts, Like I have like 808 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 2: eight projects going on right now, So that's kind of 809 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 2: what I do. 810 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 4: Right Any that you care to talk about at the 811 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 4: moment goes at all close to the vessels right now? Yeah, 812 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 4: that's all right. 813 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 2: I don't know what I mean. Once close I be. 814 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 2: I've been hearing that for a while, so I jinx 815 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:33,399 Speaker 2: it all the time. 816 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't want to do that. 817 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 2: All right, I like, and this one's pretty pretty good. 818 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,760 Speaker 2: So whatever I'm going to jinx it, I'll just keep quiet. 819 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 2: It's my wife says the middle of time. You know, 820 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 2: you tell too many people and it doesn't happen. 821 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 4: You put it out into the universe and the negative 822 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 4: spirits grab onto it and then all of a sudden, right. 823 00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, stop shut up, you know, and before 824 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 2: you start the next project, let one kit. All right, 825 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,240 Speaker 2: So let's let's get into this, into the NBA, because 826 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 2: this season ends tomorrow and I want to know in 827 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 2: your mind. Let's talk about because when you filled in 828 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 2: the first time for Fitsie, we got into it a 829 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 2: little bit with the NBA and kind of where it is. 830 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 2: I struggle with it because I thought that this was 831 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 2: a league that. 832 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 3: Too many guys not playing. 833 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 2: I mean, I get the three thing right, and it 834 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 2: may not be as esthetically pleasing, but you know, I 835 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 2: get the correct the math of it all, like why 836 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 2: it was like that and why you would deploy that. 837 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 2: But where do you think the league is right now? 838 00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 2: Just like and it took from a totality standpoint, I. 839 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 4: Actually think it's pretty healthy. I don't know the exact 840 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 4: numbers off the top of my head, and I think 841 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 4: I may have brought this up to you when I 842 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 4: filled in for FITZI a few weeks ago. You haven't 843 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 4: really seen a lot of guys very often this year 844 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 4: missing games for low management purposes is mostly because they've 845 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 4: been legitimately injured, or maybe it's four games and five nights. 846 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 4: I know the Lakers rested a few guys one time, 847 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 4: because the NBA doesn't even allow that anymore. It was 848 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 4: just a unique situation because they had rescheduled games because 849 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 4: of the fires in LA. But considering the amount of 850 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 4: star power, if I just look at the Western Conference 851 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 4: by itself, we talked about how the East is going 852 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 4: to be a runaway between Cleveland and Boston. But you 853 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 4: look at someone the caliber of Shay and how great 854 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 4: he is. You look at Luka Dancik turning around the 855 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,919 Speaker 4: Lakers that he has. Lebron is still playing as good 856 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 4: as ever or as well as ever at age forty. 857 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 4: Jokic averaged a triple double this season, third player ever 858 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 4: to do that. Kawhi is back healthy, Steph Curry's reinvigorated 859 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 4: with Jimmy Butler as his teammate Anthony Edwards. Even though 860 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 4: the Minnesota maybe is having not as great of a 861 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 4: year as they thought they would, still going to be 862 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 4: get forty eight forty nine wins. They still have one 863 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 4: of the young faces of the league, Anthony Edwards. If 864 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 4: you know Memphis with you know John Moran, if he 865 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 4: can stop with his ridiculous you know celebrations, is a 866 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 4: phenomenal player who knows what they can do. So I 867 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 4: look at the individual talent and the teams that are 868 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 4: going to be competing in the postseason. You have a 869 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 4: lot of really intriguing matchups, regardless of how it ends 870 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 4: up coming together with a lot of great star power, 871 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,320 Speaker 4: and thankfully all of these guys of meeting of note 872 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 4: are all going to be healthy going into the postseason, 873 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:35,240 Speaker 4: which is a rarity. So I think, you know, aside 874 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 4: from the three pointers in what's syesthetically pleasing and the 875 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 4: stigma of load management, I really think for the first 876 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,319 Speaker 4: time in a long time, the NBA overall is at 877 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 4: a pretty healthy spot with its star power and with 878 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 4: these playoff, potential playoff matchups that we have coming up. 879 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 2: Yo, It's fascinating, right, It's all about the vantage point, 880 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 2: Like where you sit. You see that right where I sit. 881 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 2: And maybe it's because I'm on the East coast. I sit, 882 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 2: I see the opposite. I see an Eastern Conference with 883 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 2: no stars. I see one team. I don't think Cleveland 884 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 2: could beat Boston. I think I have a chance. But 885 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 2: that's it as far as load management is. I haven't 886 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 2: seen my starting five since October. 887 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:31,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 888 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,919 Speaker 2: I look around, and you know, teams like Utah and 889 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 2: I feel like everybody's tanking. I mean Walker, they sat 890 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 2: Walker Kessler healthy for how many games in a row, 891 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 2: Like he's Elija one. 892 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 3: I mean, give me a break. I just see just 893 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,760 Speaker 3: trash like. 894 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:57,760 Speaker 2: Brooklyn, the Sixers, Toronto, Miami. I look at all these teams. 895 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:05,240 Speaker 2: I just it's just ross. Yeah, nothing interesting, right, nothing interesting, 896 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:06,720 Speaker 2: not in the East. 897 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 4: Well, and to your and to your point, because that's 898 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 4: your you know, your your world, and especially the seventy 899 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 4: six Ers, who have had one of the most disastrous 900 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,720 Speaker 4: seasons based on expectation coming into the year in recent memory. 901 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 4: You see a team that had all the expectation in 902 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 4: the world and guys are getting hurt, and guys are 903 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 4: sitting out because of thumb injuries and all sorts of stuff. 904 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 4: If you look at the worst of the league, I 905 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 4: can see how you can have that perspective for sure. 906 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,879 Speaker 4: So if I flip it and look at the best 907 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 4: of the league and like, it's amazing. So I guess 908 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 4: to your point, it makes sense that you would say 909 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 4: it's a matter of perspective and it's never good. And 910 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 4: I can't remember the last time, Anthony. Maybe you you 911 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 4: can because you've covered the sport for such a long 912 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 4: period of time. It's usually one or the other. The 913 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,320 Speaker 4: Eastern Conference or the Western Conference is really competitive and 914 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 4: could be a dogfight one through five, one through I mean, 915 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 4: for the for the for the Western Conference. This year, 916 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 4: I can legitimately say one through seven, one through six 917 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,839 Speaker 4: at the very least has a shot of making out 918 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 4: of the Western Conference. It's rare that both conferences are 919 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,839 Speaker 4: extremely competitive and you truly have no idea he's coming 920 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 4: out of either. That almost never happens. 921 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 3: And it's like that. 922 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 2: I think that's like that in every sport, like AFC, NFC. 923 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, the nl AL situation usually goes in cycles. 924 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's even less. 925 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,280 Speaker 2: And you know that's why I made sure to preface 926 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 2: my statements by vantage point, right, you know, and I 927 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,760 Speaker 2: will say this, like I'm captivated by some of the West. 928 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 2: I mean, you're right, you know, the Joker is is 929 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,319 Speaker 2: going to finish with a triple double average like that, 930 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 2: that's unbelievable, right, third player in the history of the 931 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 2: game to do that. I love ant Man a right, 932 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 2: So I love I love watching him. Luca and Lebron 933 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 2: is compelling. The Clippers are very good, Like they're just 934 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:05,320 Speaker 2: a good bad Steph is still electric alright, Like Steph 935 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 2: still goes off. They're they're still good. Golden State they're interesting, 936 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 2: okayc is fun is. 937 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,240 Speaker 3: All get out. I mean they're really really good. 938 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 2: So, like I I see what you see in the 939 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,840 Speaker 2: Western Conference. Now do I think it's great ball? Like, 940 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 2: I don't think Minnesota is a great team. I love Edwards, 941 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,319 Speaker 2: but I don't think that's a great team. I don't 942 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 2: think Denver is a great team. I don't think the 943 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,799 Speaker 2: Lakers or the Clippers are great teams. Right, I think 944 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 2: they're good, and I think Clippers are good. I think 945 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,839 Speaker 2: Clippers have a real good chance just to start that off. 946 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 2: Golden State, same thing I think they're I think it's missing, 947 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,720 Speaker 2: it's missing a great it's it's still missing something. 948 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, well see that's and see that's where I see 949 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 4: the beauty of it. It's almost like an NFL model 950 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 4: where the NFL always wants parody. You don't know who's 951 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 4: gonna win, and so the fact that most of these 952 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 4: teams in the Western Conference from two through seven are good, 953 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 4: but none of them are great. I find that to 954 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,399 Speaker 4: be interesting, compelling, and fairly entertaining. I would much rather 955 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 4: have a bunch of teams jumbled up together and I 956 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 4: don't know what's gonna happen than a FATA complete that 957 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 4: Cleveland's gonna play Boston in the Eastern Conference finals. That's 958 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 4: a I understand having two Juggernauts going at it, the 959 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,720 Speaker 4: two best teams in the conference, and to a certain degree, 960 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,400 Speaker 4: that's what you generally hope for. But I also enjoy 961 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 4: just the not knowing going into a playoff series and saying, like, yeah, 962 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 4: this three six matchup, if it ends up being the Lakers, well. 963 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,279 Speaker 3: You're spot on, I feel you. Yeah, you're spot on. 964 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 2: And I guess I'm looking at it too critically. 965 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 4: It's okay. 966 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 2: I mean, like I watch, like I still watch the 967 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 2: league like people people here in like in my in 968 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:56,800 Speaker 2: my city. 969 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,240 Speaker 4: Oh they've checked out, I'm sure. 970 00:49:59,520 --> 00:49:59,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 971 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 2: They hate the game, they hate the sport, like they 972 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 2: can't find anything. Like they've got some NBA fans that 973 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 2: are just hardcore like us, but they're buying large. 974 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 4: You know, most people care about their own team. 975 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're also tired of the stars, right, Like 976 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 2: one of the issues is it's great that you know, 977 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,720 Speaker 2: like Kilkes Alexander's is ridiculous, right, it's you know, Sga 978 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:34,439 Speaker 2: is ridiculous player, but he doesn't have even a man 979 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 2: to some extent, Like they're not Lebron's staph, Like they 980 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 2: still look at it like Lebron's staph are still running 981 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 2: the league. 982 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 4: The faces of the league for sure. Yeah. 983 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're still kind of waiting for the next generation, right, 984 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 2: even though those guys are here. 985 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,799 Speaker 3: Do they have the bigness? 986 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,359 Speaker 2: Like I was talking to a buddy of mine who's 987 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 2: not a hater or anything, but he's like, dude, he goes, 988 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,880 Speaker 2: I don't I don't feel the bigness of the league. 989 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 2: He goes, it felt big when it was Kobe on 990 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 2: a Sunday in March. He's like, forget, I'm not talking 991 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 2: about the playoffs. I'm talking about a Kobe Lakers in 992 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:23,359 Speaker 2: March that felt big to me, right, and he goes, 993 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 2: I don't feel the bigness. Hey, you know it is 994 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 2: interesting because you know all those Sunday afternoons that happened 995 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:37,200 Speaker 2: post Super Bowl, they're not those nationally doubleheaders. 996 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:38,840 Speaker 3: You don't see that anymore. 997 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, the juice is definitely not there anymore for whatever reason. 998 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,959 Speaker 4: And look, someone who should be the face of the league, 999 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 4: but I think he has it working against him is 1000 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:51,279 Speaker 4: that he's not American. Is Jokic? I mean, yeah, multiple MVPs, 1001 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 4: average triple double. But because he's humble and not charismatic, 1002 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 4: it doesn't necessarily he's not above the rim. He's not 1003 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 4: the most he's exciting to watch in is in his 1004 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 4: own unique way, but not in a classic way that 1005 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 4: we're used to consuming basketball, where it's it's Kobe, it's 1006 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 4: Jordan above the rim, it's Lebron James bowling over people. 1007 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,839 Speaker 4: So it's just a different style of player and that's 1008 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 4: really hard to embrace when he's not an American born 1009 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 4: player and lacks that sort of natural charisma. So I 1010 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 4: can see that part of it too, And why the 1011 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,919 Speaker 4: regular season games that mark the quote unquote marking games 1012 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 4: aren't as big anymore. That's a good question because a 1013 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 4: lot of these games, Like I mentioned, these players are playing. 1014 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,399 Speaker 4: Guys are not missing a lot of games this year. 1015 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 4: In particular, the Stars for the most part, especially in 1016 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,799 Speaker 4: nationally televised games, have been playing. I did see that 1017 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,279 Speaker 4: the Luca return game to Dallas was the highest rated 1018 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 4: regular season game this season so far for the league. 1019 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 4: And that's for you know, a MAVs team that for 1020 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,359 Speaker 4: all intentsive purposes is not going anywhere, and you know 1021 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 4: a Laker team that you know, the skies and women 1022 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 4: at this point in time, and Luca bald out. So 1023 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 4: there is a there is a clamoring out there, there's 1024 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 4: a there's fanship for the league as a whole. When 1025 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,400 Speaker 4: you just watch a Western tea, just a middling Western 1026 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,759 Speaker 4: Conference matchup between the Lakers who are pretty much locked 1027 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 4: in and the Maverick Mavericks who are fighting for a 1028 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 4: play in spot to get that many eyeballs. So it's 1029 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:17,400 Speaker 4: there somewhat correct, Yeah, you know how you grasp that 1030 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,319 Speaker 4: every single week. And the interesting thing is so in 1031 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,240 Speaker 4: when the new NBA contract, the TV contract starts next season. 1032 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:29,440 Speaker 4: Once football season ends, NBC and Peacock are gonna basically 1033 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 4: ride the momentum off of Sunday Night football and start 1034 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 4: putting NBA games in that slot. 1035 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,479 Speaker 2: And I wonder how that's gonna end up going, which 1036 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,400 Speaker 2: I think is smart. I agree, right, because one of 1037 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:49,160 Speaker 2: the things that you don't have is the like the slot, 1038 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 2: the marquee slot. Yeah, like that's what makes football, right, 1039 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,400 Speaker 2: what makes football Besides, I mean, everybody loves the sport 1040 00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 2: and it's it's it's made for that. But the slot 1041 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 2: also helps, right, you know, Thursday nights in your brain 1042 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,240 Speaker 2: like they cook over another night of the week. 1043 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what's hurting the NBA too. Thursday night was 1044 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 4: TNT's NBA showcase. But then here comes the NFL, you know, 1045 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 4: and just you know, bowling them over and rightfully, so 1046 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 4: that's business. 1047 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 3: I do. 1048 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 4: I do the same thing if I were. 1049 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,319 Speaker 2: You're right, You're right, because Thursday night T and T 1050 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,359 Speaker 2: doubleheader was a thing. 1051 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:27,880 Speaker 4: Yep. 1052 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 2: You know It's funny. When I was a little kid, 1053 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,880 Speaker 2: Monday night Baseball was a big deal, was it? Okay, 1054 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 2: it was like a big deal, like Monday night Baseball, 1055 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 2: And I know that Sunday Night Baseball at ESPN, but 1056 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 2: it was like Monday Night, and I think it was 1057 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 2: ABC trying to do the same thing off of capitalize 1058 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 2: off of Monday Night. Football was trying to make Monday 1059 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 2: Night of Sports night like it was Monday Night Baseball. 1060 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,360 Speaker 2: Friday night fights, I remember Friday Night fights. 1061 00:54:59,440 --> 00:54:59,879 Speaker 3: That's right. 1062 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 2: I think it's important for a sport to have its 1063 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 2: day like you're obviously you're gonna be playing all the days, 1064 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 2: but to have a big day of the week that 1065 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:18,320 Speaker 2: you celebrate. Now, obviously the NFL has Thursday, Sunday and Monday. 1066 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 4: And Saturdays in December. They'll take as many days as 1067 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 4: they can take. There's only so many days in the week, 1068 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 4: An't that's the issue? Right? They'll take every day, really 1069 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 4: will well, the Anthony Gargano original plan, they will take 1070 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 4: every day of the week. So yes, yes, I still 1071 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 4: wouldn't go for that, right, we have to create an 1072 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 4: eighth day for these other sports to get in somewhere. 1073 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,880 Speaker 3: But you know, it's funny. I don't know. 1074 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,440 Speaker 2: When I look at the health of the league, I 1075 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 2: don't know, going into that big contract, is there enough, 1076 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,080 Speaker 2: Is there enough intrigue, drama, star power? 1077 00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,400 Speaker 4: Well, I mean that that ends up getting built organically 1078 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,800 Speaker 4: to a certain point. If Shaye continues on the upward trajectory, 1079 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,840 Speaker 4: which it looks like he will. You know, he's a 1080 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,480 Speaker 4: kind of a face of the league type. He has 1081 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,400 Speaker 4: a little bit of charisma to him. You know, Anthony 1082 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,239 Speaker 4: Edwards is only gonna end up getting better. And look, 1083 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 4: maybe Shay and Ant end up outgrowing the teams they 1084 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,520 Speaker 4: play for, which is one thing that I hate about 1085 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,280 Speaker 4: the sport too, because you know, you have the salary 1086 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 4: cap and you can pay your own guys more money, 1087 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 4: and a lot of times that just doesn't matter. Even 1088 00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 4: with as global as the as the sport is, it's 1089 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,879 Speaker 4: no longer regional, it's no longer even nationals international. There's 1090 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,279 Speaker 4: still something to be said for a player playing for 1091 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 4: the Lakers or a player wanting to play for the 1092 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 4: Knicks or a major market franchise, and you just wonder 1093 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,880 Speaker 4: if it behooves the league as a whole. I know 1094 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 4: it does whether or not it's going to end up 1095 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,800 Speaker 4: having one of these star players having to move somewhere 1096 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 4: else for their from the for them really to ascend, 1097 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,680 Speaker 4: I know, and I think that helps. It helps the 1098 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,360 Speaker 4: league that Lebron James chose the Lakers in twenty eighteen 1099 00:56:58,400 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 4: and that Luca got traded, you. 1100 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 2: Know, definitely. Do you think the league is too has 1101 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,840 Speaker 2: over expanded? There's too many teams? 1102 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 4: I don't. I mean, when is the last time they expanded? 1103 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,399 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess is when they what they added 1104 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,200 Speaker 4: the Pelicans. I'm trying to remember. 1105 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 2: I mean it's I've been number of thirty teams? Is 1106 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 2: that too many? Because they're expanded again, They're probably going 1107 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 2: to expand again. 1108 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 4: They will, you know, it's going to be Vegas and 1109 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 4: somebody else, Vegas and Tennessee, Vegas and whoever. But the 1110 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,840 Speaker 4: last thing the league needs, I think is expansion. If anything, 1111 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 4: contraction I think would actually help. I mean, look at 1112 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 4: the bad teams we have now, Look how bad Charlotte 1113 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 4: and Washington and Mike. 1114 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,440 Speaker 2: And that's why I asked you. Do you think they 1115 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 2: have too many bad teams or too many? They have 1116 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,280 Speaker 2: too many teams because of the sheer number of slop. 1117 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah they do. But the problem is, I don't 1118 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 4: know how you combat that. You know, you're not going 1119 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,240 Speaker 4: to combine franchies, You're not going to the schedule is 1120 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,440 Speaker 4: going to be reduced, which means there's less gate revenue 1121 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 4: and fewer TV, less TV revenue and all that. So 1122 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 4: practically speaking, nothing's going to happen. But just theoretically speaking 1123 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 4: to your point, absolutely, the product is for sure diluted, absolutely. 1124 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 2: Which I think again that the aesthetics get hurt by 1125 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 2: that big time. Yeah, And I will say that the 1126 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 2: problem how do you get excited with like it's the 1127 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 2: Wizards or the Sixers, right, or the or Charlotte, Like 1128 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 2: do you have these teams that will just never win? 1129 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,880 Speaker 2: I was saying in this case, same conversation with baseball, 1130 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,480 Speaker 2: like the Pirates are just never going to win. 1131 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 4: You know, they don't even try. That's the issue. The 1132 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,240 Speaker 4: issue a lot of people have too is like Pittsburgh, 1133 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 4: I think I heard a stat this offseason they've signed 1134 00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 4: They have not signed a free agent to a multi 1135 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 4: year contract in like seven years now. Is that for 1136 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,560 Speaker 4: a free agents wanting to go there? It's like, I 1137 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,960 Speaker 4: don't know, if Pittsburgh opened up the pocketbook and offered 1138 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 4: somebody a three year deal, I'm pretty sure somebody at 1139 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 4: some point would take it. But there it seems as 1140 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 4: if they're content with making their money, seeing, hoping, praying 1141 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,120 Speaker 4: every you know, five to eight years, they can build 1142 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,480 Speaker 4: up a decent enough young roster with the farm system 1143 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 4: compete intil those guys end up leaving and getting big 1144 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:25,400 Speaker 4: contracts well without creating the actual infrastructure to be able 1145 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 4: to compete on a year and year out basis. So 1146 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,960 Speaker 4: I think a lot of times people start blaming, like, oh, 1147 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,640 Speaker 4: it's small markets, we can't keep up. It's like, I 1148 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 4: don't know, Tampa Bay's a small market. They keep up, right, 1149 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 4: So I think the fault really lies in with the 1150 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,560 Speaker 4: ownership more than it does with the economics of the game, 1151 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,520 Speaker 4: and you know, the haves and the have nots. I 1152 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 4: think that's where the issue lies. So I think if 1153 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,520 Speaker 4: you're a fan of a team like the Pirates or 1154 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 4: the Reds who never win, or the Charlotte Hornets, and 1155 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 4: granted the basketball is a little more difficult, you know, 1156 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,320 Speaker 4: depends on where you draft, who lands there, who stays there. 1157 00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,360 Speaker 4: Getting free agents with the salary cap it's a hard 1158 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,560 Speaker 4: cap is really difficult. But in like Bajor League Baseball, 1159 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,800 Speaker 4: there's almost no excuse, right right, because the o't think 1160 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 4: too is your mining talent? Correct? So that's the other 1161 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:12,480 Speaker 4: is all the time, right. 1162 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,240 Speaker 2: Right, It's not like the NBA where you got a 1163 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,200 Speaker 2: tank to get a shot at one player. 1164 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:17,920 Speaker 4: Right, and that might not work out. You can try 1165 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 4: to thank for five straight years and never get the 1166 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 4: first overall pick, you. 1167 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 2: Know, yeah, or you tank for you know, ten years 1168 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,480 Speaker 2: and you just completely screw it up. 1169 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know you don't know anything about that though. 1170 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 4: I hate them. 1171 01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I gotta love hate relationship with 1172 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:36,920 Speaker 2: my squad. 1173 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:38,720 Speaker 4: At least in be it's going to be back to 1174 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 4: start next year. Right. 1175 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 2: Oh God, if they're ever going to trade them, now's 1176 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 2: the time to. 1177 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 3: Do it now. 1178 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 4: I mean, you are selling as low as you possibly 1179 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:49,560 Speaker 4: can if you trade them right now. 1180 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:56,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the issue. It's it's you're correct, but they 1181 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:57,200 Speaker 2: need to change. 1182 01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:58,439 Speaker 4: I would agree with that. 1183 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,480 Speaker 2: Like, that's the problem. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense 1184 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:05,240 Speaker 2: to trade a beat now he's worthless. But what you 1185 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,800 Speaker 2: do is you signal a change in the in the franchise. 1186 01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're starting over. 1187 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,040 Speaker 3: Is it smart now? 1188 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,480 Speaker 2: Because it's it's smarter just to ride it out with 1189 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:18,000 Speaker 2: Joe And it's not even his fault, right, Like, no. 1190 01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:19,880 Speaker 4: You can't control his you know, if he gets exact 1191 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:21,040 Speaker 4: or if his body's built that way. 1192 01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,120 Speaker 2: That's what the problem is is that you're so deep 1193 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:29,480 Speaker 2: into it the fan has just no faith. Yeah that 1194 01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,560 Speaker 2: it almost the divorce needs to happen for both parties. 1195 01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,440 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, because now you've put yourself and you've tripled 1196 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,920 Speaker 4: down on it with the contract you gave to Paul George, 1197 01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,880 Speaker 4: like embat First of all, I don't know if you 1198 01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,000 Speaker 4: can give him away right now, considering the contract that 1199 01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 4: he has for the next five years. And then no 1200 01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 4: one's gonna takehim on Paul George's contract based on how 1201 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,400 Speaker 4: he played this year when he actually did play that's right, 1202 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 4: you know. So the only person of value that you 1203 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 4: could trade away is Maxie And why would you do that. 1204 01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,040 Speaker 4: That's the only good player. That's the only player anybody 1205 01:01:58,040 --> 01:01:59,439 Speaker 4: would actually show up to see right now. 1206 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,640 Speaker 2: And the problem that you have, no you have no assets, 1207 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,560 Speaker 2: like you you can't build around and on the size 1208 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:08,240 Speaker 2: to guard right and you and you have McCain and 1209 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,600 Speaker 2: Quinon Grimes, She's played really well, but they're all they're 1210 01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 2: all guards, right, like you got no wings to build around. 1211 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, the hard part is you don't see a real 1212 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:22,600 Speaker 4: way out when you have two guys who are ultra 1213 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:26,400 Speaker 4: injury prone and Joel and Bill probably he's never going 1214 01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 4: to be the same with the kind of injuries that 1215 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 4: he's been having. And you're talking about I'm looking at 1216 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 4: next year fifty five million, then fifty seven, then sixty 1217 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,080 Speaker 4: two and then sixty seven on a player option, which 1218 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,640 Speaker 4: he's not given up and I wouldn't either. Yeah, I mean, 1219 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 4: you're in the ABYSS until twenty twenty eight, right now. 1220 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's take a look at we've looked 1221 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,080 Speaker 2: at big picture with the league coming up, Let's look 1222 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 2: at who's got a real chance, right like, let's size 1223 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,000 Speaker 2: them up, and and really it's we're gonna just go 1224 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,640 Speaker 2: heavy into the West because we already know that. 1225 01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:58,560 Speaker 4: There's only two teams in the East. 1226 01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,240 Speaker 2: All right, but well let's look at them and take 1227 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 2: a look because actually, I do think Nix Pistons would 1228 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:05,640 Speaker 2: be an interesting matchup. 1229 01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,320 Speaker 3: I like the Pistons because they try. 1230 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 4: Yeah right, they're young, and they're exciting. I think Kate 1231 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,120 Speaker 4: is a guy who could potentially be a face of 1232 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,840 Speaker 4: the league guy if he continues to ascend. YEP with 1233 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,320 Speaker 4: the Fellas right here. Fox Sports Radio. 1234 01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,520 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 1235 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,920 Speaker 5: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 1236 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:28,160 Speaker 5: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 1237 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:29,200 Speaker 5: listen live. 1238 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:39,360 Speaker 4: Fellas k Fake Becauz. So here's the deal. 1239 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:45,920 Speaker 2: Calm the chaos with the shipping software that delivers. 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The first round insider Jay Glazer, 1244 01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:09,000 Speaker 2: former Jets general manager Joe Douglass, college football Hall of 1245 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 2: famer LeVar Arrington, Fox Sports Lead college football reporter Jenny Taft, 1246 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:19,920 Speaker 2: Pick by pick predictions, reactions to every first round selection. 1247 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,480 Speaker 2: That's Thursday, a but twenty fourth, eight o'clock Eastern, throughout 1248 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,240 Speaker 2: the first round of the NFL Draft, layover right here, 1249 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,800 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, brought to you by ship Station. 1250 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,120 Speaker 3: All right, brother, let's let's go into it. 1251 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,360 Speaker 2: So if OKC, we would agree, Okay, she's the favorite, 1252 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:43,440 Speaker 2: not a not a dramatic favorite, but a favorite. 1253 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:43,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1254 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,480 Speaker 3: They're just so deep man. 1255 01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,400 Speaker 4: Right, Well, I would say they're the favorite in the West. 1256 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,080 Speaker 4: I think in a seven game series, I will take 1257 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:50,680 Speaker 4: the Celtics over them. In the finals if they were 1258 01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,760 Speaker 4: to meet up, but in the Western Conference for sure. 1259 01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:57,480 Speaker 2: So you got them, and I think with you got 1260 01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:03,120 Speaker 2: SGA and then you got incredible depth, right you know, 1261 01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:04,680 Speaker 2: and you got guys that could shoot. 1262 01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,920 Speaker 3: They fit well, right, like. 1263 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:14,080 Speaker 2: They's they do so many different things that I love 1264 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:15,000 Speaker 2: the way they're built. 1265 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 3: And it's amazing because they still have. 1266 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,840 Speaker 2: A plethora of picks laughing right, it's a joke, Like 1267 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,040 Speaker 2: it really is, like they cracked the code or how 1268 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 2: to build a team. 1269 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, like that's the model, like I talked about, if 1270 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,000 Speaker 4: you're going to find a model in the NBA of 1271 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,920 Speaker 4: how to build a championship roster or a team that 1272 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,840 Speaker 4: can compete for a championship, do it the way Sam 1273 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:38,040 Speaker 4: Presty did it, by the way he organically built the 1274 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:42,080 Speaker 4: Thunder with Russell Westbrook, James Harden, Kevin Durant and here 1275 01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,800 Speaker 4: we are, what ten years later, and he's rebuilt it 1276 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,439 Speaker 4: all of from the ground up with a completely new 1277 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,240 Speaker 4: supporting cast. And it's through getting Shave via trade for 1278 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,080 Speaker 4: Paul George. And granted they got Chitt Holmgren at the 1279 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,120 Speaker 4: top of the draft because they were bad that particular year. 1280 01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,320 Speaker 4: But you hit on your pick you find guys like 1281 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,160 Speaker 4: Jalen Williams and Aaron Wiggins. You get Hartenstein. Lou Dort 1282 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,280 Speaker 4: was a guy they found in the second round. That's 1283 01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,520 Speaker 4: how you build a winner. So don't tell me that 1284 01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,480 Speaker 4: if you're a small market franchise you can't find a 1285 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,240 Speaker 4: way to win, that there's no formula, there's no way, 1286 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,520 Speaker 4: no way out for you. Because they've done it twice 1287 01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,880 Speaker 4: and they'll past two decades, the Oklahoma City Thunder I 1288 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,520 Speaker 4: have built championship rosters two times in the last twenty years. 1289 01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the same thing. Right. 1290 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:28,040 Speaker 2: The first time it was ridiculous, like you had three 1291 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:32,080 Speaker 2: the greatest players. You assembled three the greatest players at 1292 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:33,400 Speaker 2: at one time. 1293 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,040 Speaker 4: Right, and the only reason you didn't keep them together 1294 01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,920 Speaker 4: is because ownership didn't want to pay all of them. Right, 1295 01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,760 Speaker 4: So they said, you can keep Sergeabaka or you can 1296 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:43,800 Speaker 4: keep James Harden, but you can't keep both, and so 1297 01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,240 Speaker 4: they chose to keep Surge instead of instead of Harden. 1298 01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:50,120 Speaker 2: So all right, So if you have on one side, 1299 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:55,439 Speaker 2: you got OKC. Let's look at the contenders, right, Chase. 1300 01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:59,400 Speaker 2: They're interesting, right, there's a lot of equal contenders. I mean, 1301 01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if if I go Golden State or 1302 01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:08,360 Speaker 2: the Clippers to me as the. 1303 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:08,640 Speaker 3: Team best chance to take him out. 1304 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,600 Speaker 4: I think from a matchup standpoint, I think the Clippers 1305 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,200 Speaker 4: probably have a better chance. They have the wing defenders, 1306 01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,360 Speaker 4: they have a size advantage with or I don't know 1307 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,000 Speaker 4: if it's an advantage, but that the very Leaves can 1308 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:21,240 Speaker 4: match up with Chet Holmgren with Zubots, who I think 1309 01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,000 Speaker 4: at this point in time, I think Chet is going 1310 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:24,560 Speaker 4: to be end up being a better player. But right 1311 01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:28,400 Speaker 4: now Zubots is the better player. He is and he's tough. 1312 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:33,000 Speaker 2: He really is, like, he's physical, he'll rebound, He's a 1313 01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:33,680 Speaker 2: tough play. 1314 01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,040 Speaker 3: He is a tough matchup for him. 1315 01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I think from just a pure matchup standpoint, 1316 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 4: I think that if the Clippers were to play Oklahoma City, yeah, 1317 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,480 Speaker 4: I think I think Golden State can beat them too, 1318 01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:44,520 Speaker 4: for many of the same reasons. But if it's between 1319 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,520 Speaker 4: the two of them, who is a tougher matchup for 1320 01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,800 Speaker 4: Oklahoma City? I think the Clippers are at the moment. 1321 01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,560 Speaker 3: See I get and so three. 1322 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:54,640 Speaker 2: I think it's those two teams that pose the biggest threat. 1323 01:07:55,360 --> 01:08:00,120 Speaker 2: Because here's the thing about Golden State, it is they 1324 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:04,480 Speaker 2: have they got so much fire. They still have firepower, right, 1325 01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,120 Speaker 2: and they and they're still veterans, like they know how 1326 01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:12,600 Speaker 2: to win and they have like the Lakers, I you know, 1327 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:16,720 Speaker 2: obviously Lebron and Luca, but after that, I still go, 1328 01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:18,599 Speaker 2: is that enough? 1329 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:21,880 Speaker 4: I think it can be. I think people are still 1330 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:25,200 Speaker 4: sleeping on Austin reeves for whatever reason, which I found 1331 01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:26,680 Speaker 4: it funny. I don't know if he saw what he 1332 01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,120 Speaker 4: said the other night. He says, like, it's weird for 1333 01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:30,840 Speaker 4: me to say, but when I see a white guy 1334 01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:32,559 Speaker 4: playing really well in the NBA, it's hard for me 1335 01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 4: to even believe that he's that good. And this is 1336 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,760 Speaker 4: a white guy talking. So I don't know if he 1337 01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:39,880 Speaker 4: gets slept on for that reason or not. But I mean, 1338 01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:41,920 Speaker 4: he's been a twenty plus pointy game scorer for the 1339 01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,479 Speaker 4: last two months. He's established himself as one of the 1340 01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:45,160 Speaker 4: best third. 1341 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:49,000 Speaker 3: Options in the entire week. Yes, you're right, you're spot. 1342 01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:52,559 Speaker 4: On, and the pieces around them, the key pieces. Dorian 1343 01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,439 Speaker 4: Finney Smith is a three and D guy. You know, 1344 01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,880 Speaker 4: Ruy Hatchamura more of a three than the D guy, 1345 01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,960 Speaker 4: but he's certainly not a Siev defensively gave Vincent's turn 1346 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,960 Speaker 4: the corner off the bench for them, so they have 1347 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:07,040 Speaker 4: their requisite pieces if guys are making their open shots 1348 01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,960 Speaker 4: around the big three to make a deep run for sure. 1349 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:13,000 Speaker 4: And just Luca, because he's such a great individual talent, 1350 01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:16,040 Speaker 4: just raises the ceiling of any team that he goes to. Well, 1351 01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:17,960 Speaker 4: now you drop him in on a team with Lebron James, 1352 01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,040 Speaker 4: and now Lebron can save himself for the fourth quarter 1353 01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,320 Speaker 4: before he has to go off. I think that's why 1354 01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,760 Speaker 4: some people people, so many people are so optimistic about 1355 01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:26,479 Speaker 4: the Lakers or what the damage they can do. 1356 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,479 Speaker 2: The only thing is I, as I look at him, 1357 01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:34,640 Speaker 2: I just don't think like I just like I like 1358 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,040 Speaker 2: the Clippers better, I like Golden State better. 1359 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:38,920 Speaker 3: I like Denver better. 1360 01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:44,680 Speaker 4: Even though Denver, Denver can't stop anybody haven't been able 1361 01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,360 Speaker 4: to stop stop uh. 1362 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,200 Speaker 3: And I preface by saying, I know they had their issues. 1363 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think if the Lakers, if they're a bad matchup, 1364 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,080 Speaker 4: well I think I think that. I think the Lakers 1365 01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,240 Speaker 4: are a bad matchup for Denver right now because Denver 1366 01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:01,240 Speaker 4: is nobody that can stick with Lukadanca, not a single soul, 1367 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,080 Speaker 4: And it was easier for them to slow down the 1368 01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:06,960 Speaker 4: Lakers with Anthony Davis when he was there. But if 1369 01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:11,000 Speaker 4: the Lakers played the Denver Nuggets in the series. No, 1370 01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,360 Speaker 4: but the way that they've been defending in the scheme 1371 01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,160 Speaker 4: that JJ Redick has rolled out the last couple of 1372 01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:18,559 Speaker 4: times they've played Jokic. The last time specifically they played Yokic, 1373 01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,840 Speaker 4: he had the worst game of the season. Now I 1374 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,839 Speaker 4: realized that's one of eighty two. But the defensive strategy 1375 01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,320 Speaker 4: they deployed frustrated the hell out of him and he 1376 01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,000 Speaker 4: could do nothing about it. On too. If you can 1377 01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,040 Speaker 4: just frustrate him and take him out just a little bit, 1378 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:32,960 Speaker 4: and Luca's gonna light them up on the other end, 1379 01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,200 Speaker 4: Like it might be come off as a hot take. 1380 01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,000 Speaker 4: I don't know, Anthony, but looking at the matchup, if 1381 01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,040 Speaker 4: LA played Denver in a seven game series, I could 1382 01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:44,720 Speaker 4: see the Lakers playing that series in five games. Five games. Wow, 1383 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:47,920 Speaker 4: Denver is not the same team. Denver will be favored, 1384 01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,720 Speaker 4: you know that. Uh okay, all right, they might be. 1385 01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:55,160 Speaker 4: I will love those odds. I will take my ticket 1386 01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:59,000 Speaker 4: to Vegas tonight because Gambley's not legal in California. I 1387 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,800 Speaker 4: will take that a trillion times over. This is not 1388 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:08,080 Speaker 4: the same difference. So you know, I'll defer to you. Yeah, 1389 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,639 Speaker 4: especial if they're gonna keep runing Ussell Westbrook out there, 1390 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:15,080 Speaker 4: who's just especially lately has been killing them. Yeah. 1391 01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,000 Speaker 3: What what what's been their what's been their issue? 1392 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,639 Speaker 2: I know it was finally talking about buddy of mine 1393 01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:24,559 Speaker 2: when they fired Malone, that they said that the vibes 1394 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,280 Speaker 2: were lost, that they lost their mojo. 1395 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,920 Speaker 4: Well, I know the Athletic did a giant ride up 1396 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,400 Speaker 4: on this, and I think ESPND the exact same. And 1397 01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,800 Speaker 4: it sounds like Calvin Booth and Mike Malone were kind 1398 01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,040 Speaker 4: of at each other's throats over the last three years 1399 01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:42,519 Speaker 4: or so. They won the championship, but that was still 1400 01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,680 Speaker 4: amidst a lot of turmoil going on between the two 1401 01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,840 Speaker 4: of them. I guess the players in the locker room 1402 01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:48,960 Speaker 4: had sort of revolted to a certain degree against Mike 1403 01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:52,280 Speaker 4: Malone because he's showed favoritism towards Yo Kitchen Murray, although 1404 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,639 Speaker 4: that typically happens with star players at times, so maybe 1405 01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:57,880 Speaker 4: there's more to it than that. It sounded to me, 1406 01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:02,040 Speaker 4: honestly that Josh Cronky, the owner, was just tired of 1407 01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:05,679 Speaker 4: the bickering and infighting between Mike Malone, and Calvin Booth. 1408 01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,120 Speaker 4: It seemed as if Mike Malone had lost the locker 1409 01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,760 Speaker 4: room and they decided to follow the Memphis Grizzly philosophy 1410 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,160 Speaker 4: of look, if it ain't work, and why are we 1411 01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,759 Speaker 4: going to wait until the offseason, just do it now, 1412 01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,040 Speaker 4: and let's give David Adelman a shot and see what 1413 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:19,840 Speaker 4: he can do. If he's a guy that we tout 1414 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:21,799 Speaker 4: and think he could be a potential head coach candidate, 1415 01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,639 Speaker 4: let him try now and see what happens. I think 1416 01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,680 Speaker 4: it was really just arresting their franchise back and say, 1417 01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,320 Speaker 4: you guys are arguing at bickering like children. We're trying 1418 01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,400 Speaker 4: to run a professional sports franchise that's trying to compete 1419 01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:35,200 Speaker 4: for championships. We're done with both of you. That's kind 1420 01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:36,040 Speaker 4: of the way that I read it. 1421 01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:38,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that farty. 1422 01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:41,799 Speaker 4: It's odd that you because Mike Malone by all accounts, 1423 01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:43,439 Speaker 4: and he's a pretty high strung guy. I don't know 1424 01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:47,759 Speaker 4: him personally or anything, but it works to a certain degree. 1425 01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:49,720 Speaker 4: They just won a championship a couple of years like that. 1426 01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,400 Speaker 4: But it's also a personality and you know this anthony. 1427 01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,040 Speaker 4: It can wear on guys if you're a certain personality type, 1428 01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:59,599 Speaker 4: and the team isn't built a certain way mentally, and 1429 01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,320 Speaker 4: if things do start slipping a little bit, you know, 1430 01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,519 Speaker 4: it doesn't take much for guys to tune a guy out. 1431 01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:10,920 Speaker 2: Now, I mean, you know, it's TIBs. We've seen a 1432 01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:15,160 Speaker 2: million times. Guys just they unless you have the team 1433 01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:20,200 Speaker 2: that responds to you, they they'll just you're done right. 1434 01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,240 Speaker 4: And I think that was the issue, and so Calvin Booth, 1435 01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:24,240 Speaker 4: I think was in the last year. 1436 01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:30,200 Speaker 2: You see hockey every yeah, every three years, the coaching 1437 01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:34,800 Speaker 2: turnover in the NHL. Oh my god, it's unbelievable. All right, 1438 01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,360 Speaker 2: let's say quick too. We'll come right back. Fellas hanging 1439 01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:42,960 Speaker 2: out right here. Fox Sports Radio. Fellas, don't forget for 1440 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,559 Speaker 2: the best pregame show. Every weekend, be sure to tune 1441 01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:51,599 Speaker 2: into Fox Sports Radios Countdown, presented by Ben MGM every 1442 01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,599 Speaker 2: Saturday and Sunday morning from non and the noon eastern 1443 01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:59,000 Speaker 2: six to nine Pacific will count you down to the 1444 01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:03,760 Speaker 2: biggest game teams. Tune in to Countdown presented by BENMGM 1445 01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,719 Speaker 2: every Saturday and Sunday morning right here on Fox Sports 1446 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:10,160 Speaker 2: Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Today, count Down again, the 1447 01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:14,960 Speaker 2: NBA off today will close out its regular season tomorrow, 1448 01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:18,480 Speaker 2: so the countdown will be to Moving Day, the Masters 1449 01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:24,320 Speaker 2: today baseball and hockey hockey regular season and Thursday. 1450 01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:28,240 Speaker 4: FIGI that's right, gearing up for a big one. And 1451 01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:33,080 Speaker 4: so it's funny around all the hoopla surrounding Govechkin, you know, 1452 01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,680 Speaker 4: breaking the goals record and all that. You forget like, 1453 01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,519 Speaker 4: oh yeah, his team's actually really good. They probably win 1454 01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,600 Speaker 4: the Stanley Cup. It's just so funny. How that's the 1455 01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,400 Speaker 4: how that just is lost in everything. It is to me, 1456 01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:45,640 Speaker 4: that's kind of all it seems to be. 1457 01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and they got good. I mean it's funny 1458 01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:54,040 Speaker 2: because they got good overnight out of nowhere. I mean 1459 01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,240 Speaker 2: they were no good. They made they made a bunch 1460 01:14:56,240 --> 01:15:00,760 Speaker 2: of trades. And that kid Produce, he came up, he 1461 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,200 Speaker 2: came on strong, like he each had a great year. 1462 01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:07,040 Speaker 3: You know, they they rebuilt that thing. 1463 01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:07,360 Speaker 4: Well. 1464 01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,639 Speaker 2: You know we were talking earlier about like having days 1465 01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:15,360 Speaker 2: with the National Broadcast tn T. The Sunday after in 1466 01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:17,600 Speaker 2: hockey is really good. 1467 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and I'll be honest with you, I 1468 01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:24,200 Speaker 4: didn't even know that CNC had a Sunday afternoon hockey showcase. 1469 01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,200 Speaker 4: Like that's how even like, so how well are they 1470 01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,439 Speaker 4: marketing that to even me or the masses like for 1471 01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,280 Speaker 4: people like to not even I know tnc had an 1472 01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,240 Speaker 4: NHL package. I had no idea that their marketing their 1473 01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:37,240 Speaker 4: market game was. It was a Sunday afternoon. I totally 1474 01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,960 Speaker 4: missed it. No have you seen it all? 1475 01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:41,080 Speaker 2: No? 1476 01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:42,680 Speaker 4: I really haven't. 1477 01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,599 Speaker 3: Oh wow, It's just shame because they have a great like. 1478 01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:51,759 Speaker 2: Listen, the goat of all studio shows is TNT inside 1479 01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:56,480 Speaker 2: the NBA. Right then you add you add them tournament 1480 01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,680 Speaker 2: to the mix and like, to me, my favorite is 1481 01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:04,800 Speaker 2: when the ad Jay Wright with Kenny and Charles, right, Jamie. 1482 01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:09,920 Speaker 2: It was great because Jay's awesome and he's he's dry, 1483 01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,960 Speaker 2: and he gives you the coaches and he works so 1484 01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:14,799 Speaker 2: good with Barkley and Kenny. 1485 01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm a Clark fan too. 1486 01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,920 Speaker 4: Yeah all benfan of yeah Clark for a long time. 1487 01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:25,439 Speaker 2: He's great. So that's a great show. I'll tell you. 1488 01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,400 Speaker 2: The NHL T and T show is awesome. 1489 01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,720 Speaker 4: It doesn't surprise me because everything they do is top notch. 1490 01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:34,599 Speaker 4: I mean, they're they're major League Baseball coverage. 1491 01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,960 Speaker 2: I think we get to the I love their that's 1492 01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:42,439 Speaker 2: another great show. Ye with with a Rod Jeter and Poppy. 1493 01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,679 Speaker 4: I mean it's it's all you know, produced with the same, 1494 01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:52,360 Speaker 4: you know, the same outlook. That's funny. They incorporate tweets 1495 01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,840 Speaker 4: and memes and all sorts of they make it an 1496 01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,920 Speaker 4: entertaining products. So it does not surprise me that the 1497 01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,280 Speaker 4: NHL package is spectacular. But because everything they do over 1498 01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,040 Speaker 4: there is top notch, it really is. 1499 01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the NHL is just like the same vein 1500 01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:11,439 Speaker 2: yea as baseball and basketball. That's awesome, Like it's pull 1501 01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:17,160 Speaker 2: businette is tremendous, Like they had that formula down right. 1502 01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,000 Speaker 4: And the funny thing is everyone tries to replicate it 1503 01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,879 Speaker 4: and nobody can. You really can't. 1504 01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:27,679 Speaker 2: You know what's nuts is that I enjoy the NBA. 1505 01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:31,880 Speaker 2: I enjoy the the I just don't tell you like 1506 01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:37,120 Speaker 2: the NHL. I love MLB, right. The only sport that 1507 01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:40,360 Speaker 2: I don't really care for a bunch is the NFL. 1508 01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,639 Speaker 4: The NFL studio shows. That's how funny how that works? Right? 1509 01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,120 Speaker 2: I mean the best sport, the sport that I can't 1510 01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:49,759 Speaker 2: get enough of, right, yep, the sport that I watch 1511 01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:57,000 Speaker 2: every second, but the studio show, Like I don't know, 1512 01:17:57,120 --> 01:18:00,840 Speaker 2: I just I think it's there's two many of them. 1513 01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:04,760 Speaker 4: Well, there's too many of them, and we're there's such 1514 01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,640 Speaker 4: a deluge of information about these games leading up to 1515 01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:09,840 Speaker 4: Sunday that by the time you get to Sunday, I 1516 01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,120 Speaker 4: just want to watch the game. Maybe that's kind of 1517 01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:15,160 Speaker 4: how I feel about it at this point. And I 1518 01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:18,559 Speaker 4: think there's the pregame shows, especially on the networks. Fox 1519 01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:22,639 Speaker 4: and CBS have just lost some umph and I can't 1520 01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:25,519 Speaker 4: tell you why, but it's just not the same for 1521 01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,320 Speaker 4: whatever reason, Fox used to be top and Fox is 1522 01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,519 Speaker 4: still good, it's still solid, but it's not the same. 1523 01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:32,920 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's the cast as older and 1524 01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:34,840 Speaker 4: they're trying to roll in some new guys both and 1525 01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,960 Speaker 4: both networks are I just don't it sounds bad to 1526 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,600 Speaker 4: say I don't care as much anymore. Just call me 1527 01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,679 Speaker 4: at ten o'clock Pacific time when the first game kicks off. 1528 01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:44,800 Speaker 4: Then I'll check. Yeah. 1529 01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's funny, you shaid. I'm kind of in 1530 01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:52,760 Speaker 2: the same way. Yeah, And I don't know why. But 1531 01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:58,640 Speaker 2: I don't know why. I think it's just too busy. 1532 01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:00,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, it's also in a twenty four to seven 1533 01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:03,439 Speaker 4: news cycle. You get alerts on your phone about injury 1534 01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:05,599 Speaker 4: updates and all this, like they gone over the days 1535 01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:07,840 Speaker 4: of Jimmy the Greek and watching Brent Musburger for all 1536 01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:09,840 Speaker 4: your updates and let's span around the league and what's 1537 01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,120 Speaker 4: happening today. Because you can just pick up your phone. 1538 01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:14,280 Speaker 4: You can set your phone to get alerts about players, 1539 01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:15,679 Speaker 4: the tea, the same thing with every op sport. 1540 01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:16,719 Speaker 3: Why do those shows work? 1541 01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:21,000 Speaker 4: I don't know. That's a good question. I'm not really 1542 01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:21,919 Speaker 4: one hundred percent. 1543 01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:23,600 Speaker 3: Sure, but I'm right there, like they all try to do. 1544 01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:27,360 Speaker 2: The the comedy piece of it doesn't work, and I. 1545 01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,439 Speaker 3: Think it's almost forced in the NFL ones. 1546 01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:32,599 Speaker 4: It is, it absolutely is, But you have a. 1547 01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,599 Speaker 3: Comedian, the comedy stinks. 1548 01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, I like Kimmel back in the day, 1549 01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:38,919 Speaker 4: but it's passe at this point. 1550 01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:43,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just you know, it's it's interesting. We'll talk 1551 01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:46,639 Speaker 2: about it. 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Oh yeah, 1571 01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:04,360 Speaker 2: and let's dive into it. So the one interesting trade 1572 01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:10,799 Speaker 2: yesterday or actually signing was Joe Flacco going back to Cleveland. Yeah, 1573 01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:15,320 Speaker 2: because with Flacco going to Cleveland, I think that's their 1574 01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:18,680 Speaker 2: protection of you know what, we don't need to go 1575 01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:19,880 Speaker 2: after Shador here. 1576 01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:24,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, it's still a short term stop gap, 1577 01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,040 Speaker 4: so you're gonna need a quarterback of the future at 1578 01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,160 Speaker 4: some point. But to your point, they don't necessarily have 1579 01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:30,960 Speaker 4: to reach for someone right this second. If they don't 1580 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,519 Speaker 4: trust it, which goes back to the conversation we had 1581 01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:36,120 Speaker 4: earlier in the show. If you're not fully confident that 1582 01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:39,160 Speaker 4: one of these guys can be your franchise guy, then 1583 01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:40,880 Speaker 4: go out and get a stop gap and try to 1584 01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,840 Speaker 4: figure it out, find a project guy in the second 1585 01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,040 Speaker 4: or third round potentially, or circle back and do it 1586 01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,280 Speaker 4: again next year. But you can really end up setting 1587 01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:49,960 Speaker 4: yourself back. And look, they know this as well as 1588 01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:53,320 Speaker 4: anybody with Baker Mayfield, you know, and Baker's turned into 1589 01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:55,639 Speaker 4: a solid player, but it took him two years, three 1590 01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:58,400 Speaker 4: years removed from being a Brown for that to actually happen. 1591 01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,760 Speaker 4: And they can't afford to do that again. So I 1592 01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:04,080 Speaker 4: think it's a smart move to bring Flacco when you 1593 01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:05,880 Speaker 4: kind of know what you're getting at that point in time. 1594 01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,160 Speaker 4: Obviously not what he used to be, but still a 1595 01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:09,000 Speaker 4: capable player. 1596 01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:14,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's get the trade for Kenny Pickett. 1597 01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,120 Speaker 2: I don't like Kenny Pickett, but. 1598 01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:21,120 Speaker 4: No, it's someone who's still young, who changes scenery. Maybe 1599 01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:22,720 Speaker 4: it helps him out. I don't know. It was a 1600 01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:25,600 Speaker 4: it was a low risk move for someone who is talented, 1601 01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:27,800 Speaker 4: so you kind of bring him in and see see 1602 01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,400 Speaker 4: what happens. I don't necessarily have a big issue with it. 1603 01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:33,200 Speaker 4: I don't have the highest expectations for him, to be honest. 1604 01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:36,080 Speaker 2: But you you know why they you know, Pickett and 1605 01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:41,280 Speaker 2: Flacco is the Giant. It's what the Giants did with 1606 01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,040 Speaker 2: Russ and Winston. 1607 01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:48,280 Speaker 3: Right like that. I mean, that's basically what they got, right. 1608 01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:49,360 Speaker 3: You know. 1609 01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,920 Speaker 2: That allows you to not have to force one of 1610 01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:54,479 Speaker 2: the quarterbacks, right. 1611 01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,320 Speaker 4: Which is smart. That's how that's what everybody should operate 1612 01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,600 Speaker 4: instead of just taking a quarterback because you declare that 1613 01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:00,200 Speaker 4: you need one. 1614 01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:05,479 Speaker 2: So all right, let's think about it. One we knows 1615 01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:13,519 Speaker 2: cam Ward, yep. Two is Cleveland aforementioned? Is it Abdul 1616 01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:15,240 Speaker 2: Carter or is it Travis Hunter? 1617 01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:18,720 Speaker 4: Well, based on the conversations we've had, and you know 1618 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,639 Speaker 4: how we like to build teams from the front back, 1619 01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:23,960 Speaker 4: so Abdua Carter is the easy one for me, even 1620 01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:28,040 Speaker 4: though I think that Travis Hunter is a spectacular player. 1621 01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:29,720 Speaker 4: Is probably gonna be a corner and it could be 1622 01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,479 Speaker 4: a really good one with some gadget plays on offense 1623 01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:36,560 Speaker 4: for him. But when you can wreck Rekavic up front defensively, 1624 01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:39,280 Speaker 4: and especially if you can add him into the mix 1625 01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:41,360 Speaker 4: with Miles Garrett, who just signed to a giant extension. 1626 01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,240 Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you do that? That makes all the sense 1627 01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:43,879 Speaker 4: in the world. 1628 01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:47,720 Speaker 2: To me, dude, I mean imagine, right, you said it, 1629 01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:53,439 Speaker 2: Carter and Miles Garrett, Oh my god, I mean that 1630 01:23:53,479 --> 01:24:00,439 Speaker 2: would be insane. That's why I think again to think 1631 01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:04,840 Speaker 2: about who you are. You're the Browns, right. All the 1632 01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,640 Speaker 2: quarterback stuff, forget it, Like, I know you're gonna need 1633 01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:11,120 Speaker 2: to get one at some point, but build the truly 1634 01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:15,559 Speaker 2: build a defense at a running game, right, and you 1635 01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:16,000 Speaker 2: could win. 1636 01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:18,040 Speaker 3: I mean, Eagle showed you that, right. 1637 01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:22,000 Speaker 4: And guys, the Browns overall don't have a terrible roster. 1638 01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,760 Speaker 4: You know, they have some holes to plug here and there, 1639 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,160 Speaker 4: but they're they're good enough for a roster as a 1640 01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,120 Speaker 4: hole to compete in that division, uh for or at 1641 01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:31,760 Speaker 4: the very least to be a wild card. If you 1642 01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,120 Speaker 4: just plug a couple of holes here and there, so 1643 01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:36,879 Speaker 4: you get yourself stronger on the defensive front. To your point, 1644 01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,400 Speaker 4: get yourself a running game for a Joe Flacco or 1645 01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:41,400 Speaker 4: can you Pickett? You could be good enough to compete 1646 01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:42,679 Speaker 4: for a playoff spot for sure. 1647 01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:46,880 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So all right, So now you're three, you're 1648 01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:50,720 Speaker 2: the Giants, and if you're the Giants, I think now 1649 01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:51,880 Speaker 2: you've got to go Travishner. 1650 01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:56,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, you go Travis Travils Sandras is the best player 1651 01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:57,840 Speaker 4: left on the board. If you wanted to go for Need, 1652 01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,479 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be mad at you if you went Campbell 1653 01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:02,479 Speaker 4: from LSU to help the offensive line a little bit, 1654 01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:05,160 Speaker 4: because that's something that they've explicitly said they need to 1655 01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,240 Speaker 4: shore up the last couple of seasons off seasons, and 1656 01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:11,080 Speaker 4: Joe Shane has not done that. So I wouldn't be 1657 01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:13,200 Speaker 4: mad at Will Campbell, but I would stay true to 1658 01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:14,680 Speaker 4: the board to your point, and I would end up 1659 01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:15,960 Speaker 4: taking Travis Hunter two. 1660 01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:22,479 Speaker 2: And only because he's so He's Travis Hunters is just 1661 01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:23,639 Speaker 2: such an elite talent. 1662 01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,600 Speaker 4: He's dominant. He can be Charles Woodson, Chant Bailey, he. 1663 01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:30,720 Speaker 2: Can exactly like, you can't pass that up, right, As 1664 01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:33,960 Speaker 2: much as I love Campbell and I think he's legit 1665 01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:38,920 Speaker 2: and they need help on that line. You know, when 1666 01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:43,240 Speaker 2: you get complete impact players, you got to take. 1667 01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:46,639 Speaker 4: Them, Yeah, especially when they fall into your lap, right, 1668 01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,720 Speaker 4: which in a normal year or another year, he would 1669 01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:51,960 Speaker 4: be the top prospect overall, regardless of position. So you 1670 01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:53,880 Speaker 4: get that kind of value with the third overall pick. 1671 01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,240 Speaker 4: I agree with you, I would end up taking him. 1672 01:25:56,479 --> 01:26:01,800 Speaker 2: So now, if you're the Patriots, I think you got 1673 01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,439 Speaker 2: to go Mason Graham. 1674 01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree, and it kind of fits. He's 1675 01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,360 Speaker 4: kind of a Mike Rabowl type of player, too, tough 1676 01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:13,479 Speaker 4: up front, you know, will be a safe pick to 1677 01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:17,240 Speaker 4: a certain degree, to because even if he quote unquote 1678 01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,320 Speaker 4: bus he's at least, at worse is going to be 1679 01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:22,599 Speaker 4: a rotational defensive tackle, but at best, which we're all 1680 01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,599 Speaker 4: expecting the best, that he will be a very, very 1681 01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:30,120 Speaker 4: highly productive, if not dominant inside presence. So I would agree. 1682 01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:33,880 Speaker 4: I would still consider Will Campbell here too, because they 1683 01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:36,120 Speaker 4: need help on the offensive line, and you invested so 1684 01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:38,920 Speaker 4: much in getting Drake May you should invest in trying 1685 01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,960 Speaker 4: to keep him protect it. So you know, I'm in 1686 01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,240 Speaker 4: one of these situations where today I might say Mason Graham, 1687 01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:45,920 Speaker 4: but tomorrow I might say Will Campbell if I'm to 1688 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,320 Speaker 4: be fully honest with you, But right now, gun to 1689 01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:49,799 Speaker 4: my head, I would say Mason Graham. 1690 01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:52,880 Speaker 3: Right now, if you're Jacksonville, You've got to go Will camp. 1691 01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:57,160 Speaker 4: For sure, definitely, because clearly Trevor Lawrence can't stay upright, 1692 01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:59,880 Speaker 4: So yeah, and you've invested. 1693 01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:03,479 Speaker 2: So much and for all you gotta the only way 1694 01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:08,120 Speaker 2: to see about Lawrence is if you protect them, right, 1695 01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:10,960 Speaker 2: and they haven't done that. 1696 01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,479 Speaker 4: No, And I mean and to be fair to that process, 1697 01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:15,120 Speaker 4: I mean, there have been times where Trevor Lawrence has 1698 01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:18,080 Speaker 4: been decently protected and he makes some really bad throws, 1699 01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:20,640 Speaker 4: but you know, have happy feet in the pocket? Is 1700 01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:21,000 Speaker 4: he right? 1701 01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,840 Speaker 3: Like God, you gotta have to have a line he. 1702 01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:29,160 Speaker 4: Trusts, right, right, So so I'm with you on that. 1703 01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,040 Speaker 4: I that that makes the most sense for me there. 1704 01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:32,600 Speaker 4: You gotta go to the offensive line to try to 1705 01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:35,559 Speaker 4: protect whatever you have left with uh, with Trevor Lawrence. 1706 01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:36,400 Speaker 4: So that makes sense to me. 1707 01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:38,120 Speaker 3: All right. 1708 01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:47,760 Speaker 2: Then you're on the clock, right figgis Raiders And I 1709 01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:49,400 Speaker 2: want to talk to you about the Raids a little bit 1710 01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:53,320 Speaker 2: because you know, TV's calling the shots here. 1711 01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:56,720 Speaker 4: Right, even though they try to make it as if 1712 01:27:56,720 --> 01:28:00,439 Speaker 4: he's not. But he has heavy influence very Yeah TV. 1713 01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:05,200 Speaker 2: I know TV's called the shots now. Yeah, and listen, 1714 01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:06,000 Speaker 2: I don't blame him. 1715 01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:11,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, why not? Well, look, things have it hasn't been 1716 01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:13,760 Speaker 4: working the last twenty years for the Raiders the way 1717 01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:14,880 Speaker 4: they've been doing it. So why not. 1718 01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:16,840 Speaker 2: That's the way that I look at it. No, and 1719 01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:23,360 Speaker 2: here's the thing about Brady. I trust Brady like I 1720 01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:26,040 Speaker 2: think Brady can be a great NFL executive. 1721 01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,360 Speaker 4: I think he can. He doesn't have any experience in 1722 01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,679 Speaker 4: personnel or anything. But I trust the fact that he's 1723 01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:36,920 Speaker 4: extremely hard worker, He's very well prepared. He takes everything 1724 01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:39,200 Speaker 4: seriously that he does. He's not going to do anything 1725 01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:42,599 Speaker 4: half assed. So based on all of that, I choose 1726 01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,479 Speaker 4: to believe that he's going to put his everything into 1727 01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:48,200 Speaker 4: trying to be the best executive that he can. So 1728 01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,200 Speaker 4: I have confidence in him for that reason, absent of 1729 01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:54,479 Speaker 4: the fact that he has no experience doing it, and 1730 01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:56,479 Speaker 4: Carol does. He has Pizza lean on. 1731 01:28:56,600 --> 01:29:01,519 Speaker 3: So he does, right. I just think he knows he's 1732 01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:02,120 Speaker 3: shellthing too. 1733 01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:08,120 Speaker 2: But by doing by doing the broadcast too, he sees players. 1734 01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:11,160 Speaker 3: I just think he knows that. I think he knows players. 1735 01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:16,280 Speaker 2: I think he's got the gift of understanding who's good. 1736 01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:20,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I'm hopeful that that's the case. I 1737 01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:22,439 Speaker 4: guess we'll have to wait. The time will tell whether 1738 01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:24,200 Speaker 4: or not that's the case or not. Whether as far 1739 01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:27,280 Speaker 4: as valuating talent and you know, and even as being 1740 01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:29,880 Speaker 4: the elite analyst for Fox is very restricted because of 1741 01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:32,200 Speaker 4: his ownership responsibilities with the Raiders. There are meetings he 1742 01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:34,439 Speaker 4: can't go to, practices he can't go to. So even 1743 01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:37,920 Speaker 4: with all of that, he's having a really limited intel 1744 01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,200 Speaker 4: on the teams he's covering on a weekend, week out basis. 1745 01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:46,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm wondering though. It was funny because he's so 1746 01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,599 Speaker 2: good at it. You know, he got great Like here's 1747 01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:52,040 Speaker 2: the thing about Brady. Whatever he does, he's great at it. 1748 01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:55,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, he improved week after week this past season. He 1749 01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:59,120 Speaker 4: really did. He still wasn't perfect as an analyst, if I'm 1750 01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,120 Speaker 4: gonna be honest, but I mean from Week one to 1751 01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:03,760 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, I thought he improved dramatically. 1752 01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:05,160 Speaker 3: Dude, was funny. 1753 01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:10,120 Speaker 2: I have to say this too, because you know it's great, right, So, 1754 01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:18,519 Speaker 2: but he's he's such a gentleman. There was so you know, 1755 01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:22,360 Speaker 2: here he was in Philadelphia a lot because of the Eels, right, 1756 01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:26,480 Speaker 2: because they were doing there was Kevin Burkhart. Yeah, and 1757 01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:30,479 Speaker 2: he and Tom were in Town a lot, and they 1758 01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:32,599 Speaker 2: were always eat at my friend's restaurant. 1759 01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:33,599 Speaker 4: Way. 1760 01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:38,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, mister Tony, remember I tell you about mister Town. Yeah, yeah, 1761 01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:42,799 Speaker 2: Well they go see mister Tony at Aroma in South Philly, 1762 01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:52,920 Speaker 2: and there were times where kids around the block and 1763 01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:57,519 Speaker 2: Tom sat talked to every kid. I mean, I mean 1764 01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:04,120 Speaker 2: literally took time from his meal, went signed stuff for kids, 1765 01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:09,920 Speaker 2: like talk to kids, so pictures he was. I mean, 1766 01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:14,720 Speaker 2: this is the goat, right like this dude, I mean, 1767 01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:17,400 Speaker 2: I have to be I gotta be completely honest. It 1768 01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:19,720 Speaker 2: floored me how gracious he was. 1769 01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:25,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, someone of that ilk with that status, right. 1770 01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:27,080 Speaker 2: So I expected him to be polite, right yeah, sure, 1771 01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:29,400 Speaker 2: but he was downright warm. 1772 01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:30,320 Speaker 4: He was. 1773 01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:32,959 Speaker 3: He was he was a gentleman. 1774 01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:35,680 Speaker 4: He was warm, he was. 1775 01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:41,519 Speaker 2: I mean, I have I was so impressed by by 1776 01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:44,200 Speaker 2: how he was with everybody, with people. For a guy 1777 01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:47,880 Speaker 2: that gets caught at all the time, the dude was 1778 01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:49,800 Speaker 2: just just an ace. 1779 01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:53,320 Speaker 4: Wow. You know it's funny they say, like, you know, 1780 01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:55,439 Speaker 4: you give somebody, you know a lot of money and 1781 01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:58,400 Speaker 4: their true character comes out. And you know, Tom was 1782 01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:01,000 Speaker 4: a sixth round pick and you know, ibviously wasn't drafted high, 1783 01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:03,120 Speaker 4: didn't have high expectations, and had to work his tail 1784 01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:06,519 Speaker 4: off to get to every everything that he earned. He's 1785 01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:09,280 Speaker 4: still maintained that humility the entire time all the way 1786 01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:11,599 Speaker 4: through all the way that tells you the true character 1787 01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:13,400 Speaker 4: of somebody. 1788 01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:14,320 Speaker 3: The tremendous. 1789 01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:19,240 Speaker 2: There was a there was a certain player current player, 1790 01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:21,800 Speaker 2: I can't even say it, who was in the who's 1791 01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:25,599 Speaker 2: in the league, who loves Brady right and a very 1792 01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:29,560 Speaker 2: good player loves Brady. In fact, he was taken to 1793 01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:33,679 Speaker 2: the restaurant to meet Brady and then they huddled and all. 1794 01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:36,320 Speaker 3: And then the next week he. 1795 01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:42,320 Speaker 2: Got a sign Brady Jersey to mel Oh wow, yeah, yeah, 1796 01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:47,280 Speaker 2: really cool, really cool, Like you know, but like it 1797 01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:51,320 Speaker 2: just struck me seeing all this stuff over the last 1798 01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:55,920 Speaker 2: over that month was I felt just really cool. I 1799 01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:59,599 Speaker 2: appreciate that. I love hearing that stuff about guys. 1800 01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:01,880 Speaker 4: Well, especially when you see it and it's not you know, 1801 01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:05,559 Speaker 4: there's it's not a photo op. It's not all over 1802 01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:05,920 Speaker 4: the place. 1803 01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:07,240 Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, no, it's legit. 1804 01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:09,519 Speaker 4: You know. 1805 01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:15,160 Speaker 2: You know, it's like the greatest athlete that has time 1806 01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:20,360 Speaker 2: for everybody that truly is America's guest in every which 1807 01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:22,599 Speaker 2: way is Barkley. 1808 01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:25,560 Speaker 4: Absolutely Charles. 1809 01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:28,400 Speaker 3: I've seen it action a million times. 1810 01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:33,479 Speaker 2: He buys the bar around like nobody's a bigger support 1811 01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:35,919 Speaker 2: than Barkley. He loves it right, like he loves people. 1812 01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:38,800 Speaker 2: He's the coolest dude you'll ever want to like. He's 1813 01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:40,920 Speaker 2: a guy that you generally want to meet, you want 1814 01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:41,400 Speaker 2: to have a. 1815 01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:43,800 Speaker 4: Beer with, right, and he'll pay for the beers, you know. 1816 01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:48,840 Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, Brady's the same way, Brady Brady. I gotta 1817 01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:51,080 Speaker 2: tell you, I got Charles vibes off them. 1818 01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:53,879 Speaker 4: Wow, that's high praise, that's. 1819 01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:56,760 Speaker 3: I know anyway. I have to share that with you. 1820 01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:59,800 Speaker 4: No, that's awesome. I love that story and be to 1821 01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,240 Speaker 4: me even more confidence than Tom Brady running the ship. 1822 01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:05,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, dude, I gotta tell you, I think I 1823 01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:10,400 Speaker 2: think the Raiders are going to be fixed. I don't 1824 01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:12,519 Speaker 2: know how long it's going to take them, but I 1825 01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:15,120 Speaker 2: think the Raiders are going to I think they're going 1826 01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:16,120 Speaker 2: to go in the right direction. 1827 01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:19,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're They're in tough sledding with that division, uh 1828 01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:23,439 Speaker 4: for sure, star power, especially at the coaching ranks. But yeah, 1829 01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:24,920 Speaker 4: the arrow's pointing up for sure. 1830 01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:27,960 Speaker 3: All right, So who are you taking? 1831 01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:31,120 Speaker 4: So this is tough because I do love Ashton Gentzy, 1832 01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:34,519 Speaker 4: but it's also a very deep running back class in general. 1833 01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:39,679 Speaker 4: So the question is Ashton Gentcy a generational, franchise changing 1834 01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:43,320 Speaker 4: type of running back or is it the gap between 1835 01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:46,840 Speaker 4: him and Amari and Hampton or Trayveon Henderson or a 1836 01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:50,720 Speaker 4: couple of others not as wide as you think. I 1837 01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,719 Speaker 4: tend to think that you generally can find running backs. 1838 01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,240 Speaker 4: I don't know if Ashton Genzy is necessarily I've heard 1839 01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:59,960 Speaker 4: Emtt Smith comparisons. That's obviously pretty lofty. If he may 1840 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,400 Speaker 4: makes that sort of Saquon Barkley impact or not, I 1841 01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:04,680 Speaker 4: don't know if he does, but I do know they 1842 01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:07,640 Speaker 4: have other needs, like the offensive line, their defensive backfield. 1843 01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:11,240 Speaker 4: Like I would probably right now go with someone like 1844 01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:15,320 Speaker 4: a Will Johnson, who's obviously not Travis Hunter, but he's 1845 01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:18,160 Speaker 4: a top notch Day one starting cornerback that has potential 1846 01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:20,200 Speaker 4: to be an all pro. I think I would go 1847 01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:22,360 Speaker 4: with him and then try to see what I can 1848 01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:24,200 Speaker 4: circle back with a thirty seventh pick in the second 1849 01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:25,800 Speaker 4: round and see if there's a running back there to 1850 01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:30,320 Speaker 4: my liking, yeah, I hear you, I love gent Bed Yeah. 1851 01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:32,559 Speaker 4: I look. I'll put it this way, if they took 1852 01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:34,640 Speaker 4: gen C, I would not be mad at all, not 1853 01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:35,360 Speaker 4: in the least. 1854 01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:39,439 Speaker 2: Bit shield The shame is is if if this was 1855 01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:44,200 Speaker 2: a year later in their build jet he's a no brainer. 1856 01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:47,720 Speaker 4: He'd be the easy pick, right, Yeah, but. 1857 01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:49,280 Speaker 3: I understand where you're coming from. Yeah. 1858 01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:51,160 Speaker 4: Now, look, there's also the element of, like, if you 1859 01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:53,519 Speaker 4: do think he's that much, that impactful of a player. 1860 01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:56,599 Speaker 4: He brought in Geno Smith, who's an average to above 1861 01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:58,840 Speaker 4: average starting quarterback who has been good when he's had 1862 01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:00,840 Speaker 4: a running game. Last year he didn't, and I think 1863 01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:04,920 Speaker 4: that's why his turnovers went up. You have good weapons 1864 01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:08,080 Speaker 4: offensively with brock Bowers, and Myers has shown himself to 1865 01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:10,280 Speaker 4: be a decent number two receiver because even though he's 1866 01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:12,479 Speaker 4: a tight end, brock Bowers is their number one receiver. 1867 01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:15,479 Speaker 4: There's no mistake about it. Yeah, you add in a dominant, 1868 01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:18,639 Speaker 4: potentially dominant running back like gent I mean, Sky's the limit. 1869 01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:22,720 Speaker 4: The question is can you find somebody else similar to him? 1870 01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:25,040 Speaker 4: Or look, if somebody wants to trade up, if there's 1871 01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:26,960 Speaker 4: gonna be some sort of battle for him, Like you know, 1872 01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:29,519 Speaker 4: the Cowboys might want him, you know, a couple of 1873 01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:32,439 Speaker 4: other teams behind might want him. Maybe you leverage that 1874 01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:34,080 Speaker 4: pick and move down a few spots and you could 1875 01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:36,280 Speaker 4: probably still get Will Johnson and the team somewhere. 1876 01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:39,479 Speaker 2: You know, looking about him, you're you're at a great point. 1877 01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:44,639 Speaker 2: And here's the thing about the Cowboys. To me, Gent 1878 01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:47,360 Speaker 2: is the only one that could save their off season. 1879 01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:49,519 Speaker 4: I would agree with that because their off season has 1880 01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:53,720 Speaker 4: been a disaster to this point. Well, if you add Gent. 1881 01:36:55,439 --> 01:37:02,360 Speaker 2: There you go, all right, well Gent cd triangle with 1882 01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:06,120 Speaker 2: a healthy Dack, then all of a sudden, like I 1883 01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:07,960 Speaker 2: could get excited. 1884 01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:11,640 Speaker 4: Right, I'm with you on that, although questions on that 1885 01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:13,320 Speaker 4: offensive line too, you know. 1886 01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:17,680 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but it's still good. I don't think it's 1887 01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:18,559 Speaker 2: a bad line. 1888 01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:22,240 Speaker 4: No, I mean, losing Zach Martin's not gonna help obviously. 1889 01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:24,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean he was, he was starting to 1890 01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:25,240 Speaker 3: decline a little bit. 1891 01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:26,920 Speaker 4: He was, but he was still you know, I would 1892 01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:28,799 Speaker 4: still say he was an above average player. 1893 01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:29,160 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1894 01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:34,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I again, if I could get if I got 1895 01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:37,559 Speaker 2: Action Dent, if I got Ashton Gent and I'm in Dallas, 1896 01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:42,559 Speaker 2: I'm starting to go like that at least would revive me. 1897 01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:46,000 Speaker 3: Because because other than that, I mean, do you like 1898 01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:46,679 Speaker 3: where they're headed? 1899 01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:50,479 Speaker 4: No? How could you? What of note have they done? 1900 01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:51,440 Speaker 3: Exactly? 1901 01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:55,720 Speaker 4: But Joe Milton, you got yourself a backup quarterback spectacular. 1902 01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:57,760 Speaker 4: I mean, by the way we talked about their running 1903 01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,400 Speaker 4: back itches going into last offseason. I remember you Fits 1904 01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:02,400 Speaker 4: had this conversation. Fitz and I were bullets on the 1905 01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:04,280 Speaker 4: Cowboys and said they didn't need a running game, they'd 1906 01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:07,280 Speaker 4: be fine. And obviously they fell off of a cliff. 1907 01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:08,360 Speaker 4: It was terrible. 1908 01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:12,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, that one. I saw that one. I didn't get it. 1909 01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:16,240 Speaker 2: I didn't understand it. All this talk their their win 1910 01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:17,840 Speaker 2: totals were kind of a half. 1911 01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:20,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and and Fitz and I both took the over 1912 01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:20,360 Speaker 4: on that. 1913 01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:22,599 Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't say it. I don't 1914 01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:23,080 Speaker 3: say it. 1915 01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:27,679 Speaker 2: I don't like them, and they're just you know, but again, 1916 01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:31,120 Speaker 2: but you you give me genty on there kind of rejuice. 1917 01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:33,840 Speaker 3: I also think they need to be rejuvenated. 1918 01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:35,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, they coach. 1919 01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:37,080 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we'll see. 1920 01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:39,240 Speaker 4: You know, Brian Schottenheimer doesn't do a whole lot for me, 1921 01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:41,680 Speaker 4: to be honest with you, Yeah, this is like, this 1922 01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:43,880 Speaker 4: is an old Jerry Jones callback to like, you know, 1923 01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:46,720 Speaker 4: I'm a higher up for lack of a better word, 1924 01:38:46,720 --> 01:38:49,120 Speaker 4: And this is no disrespect to Schottenheimer, but a puppet. 1925 01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:53,000 Speaker 4: And I only say that because how many head coaching 1926 01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:56,920 Speaker 4: interviews did Brian Schttenheimer get over the last couple of years. Yeah, 1927 01:38:57,040 --> 01:38:59,960 Speaker 4: I'm pretty confident in saying zero he was nobody's right 1928 01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:02,599 Speaker 4: to be a head coach, and I was the head 1929 01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:05,640 Speaker 4: coach of one of the most market biggest franchises on 1930 01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:06,160 Speaker 4: the planet. 1931 01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:08,759 Speaker 2: Well you know what it is too, It's like these dudes, 1932 01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:12,400 Speaker 2: they just want to reinvent the wheel, you know, they 1933 01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:16,000 Speaker 2: want to be the smartest guy in the room. The 1934 01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:18,760 Speaker 2: puppet thing is real too, but you know, oh, I 1935 01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:21,800 Speaker 2: got you. I'm the one. Like instead of going after Like, 1936 01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:26,759 Speaker 2: if you're the Cowboys and you're looking around, why wouldn't 1937 01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:29,680 Speaker 2: you poach Kansas City? Go all right, well hates spags, right, 1938 01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:30,559 Speaker 2: come here. 1939 01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:33,720 Speaker 4: Why didn't you call Belichick before he took the North 1940 01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:34,479 Speaker 4: Carolina job? 1941 01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:35,320 Speaker 3: Exactly? 1942 01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:36,519 Speaker 4: Why not call Pete Carroll? 1943 01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:41,360 Speaker 2: Yes, you know, like instead of trying to reinvent and 1944 01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:44,840 Speaker 2: try to be the smartest person in the room and go, 1945 01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:48,160 Speaker 2: you know, I'm a genius. I found so and so, 1946 01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:50,240 Speaker 2: go get the best guy for the job. 1947 01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:54,000 Speaker 4: And by the way, it's never worked. The runs of 1948 01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:55,840 Speaker 4: the short runs of success if you want to call 1949 01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:57,679 Speaker 4: it that for the Cowboys over the last twenty years, 1950 01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:01,040 Speaker 4: uh huh has been with Bill Parcells and Mike McCarthy, 1951 01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:04,400 Speaker 4: two established head coaches yep. Yeah. So what does that 1952 01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:05,120 Speaker 4: tell you, Jared? 1953 01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:08,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, all, I gotta take quick t you will continue 1954 01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:13,440 Speaker 2: a little first round look at the draft. 1955 01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:14,000 Speaker 3: Got here? 1956 01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:17,519 Speaker 2: What's funny? All the stuff going on? You got the 1957 01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:22,320 Speaker 2: Masters in the NBA playoffs around the corner. Nothing gets 1958 01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:24,759 Speaker 2: you more excited football. 1959 01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:26,760 Speaker 4: That's right, exactly. Still football still finds. 1960 01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:27,960 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 1961 01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:30,920 Speaker 4: We go to the draft always and all is. 1962 01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:32,639 Speaker 3: An excuse to talk about each team. 1963 01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:35,320 Speaker 4: Uh huh, we love it, love it. 1964 01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:38,880 Speaker 2: Rid of Fellas hanging right here in Fox Sports Radio. 1965 01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:42,720 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 1966 01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:46,080 Speaker 5: the nation. 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Ah, my brother, uh, 1982 01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:10,799 Speaker 2: let's keep going around the horn in this first round, Jets, 1983 01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:13,440 Speaker 2: we skipped over to Jets to Dallas. 1984 01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:17,120 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so I talked about the Dallas Cowboys potentially 1985 01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:19,920 Speaker 4: moving up to Jets and nab Ashton Jentz at six 1986 01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:21,760 Speaker 4: with the Raiders. So that's how the Cowboys came up. 1987 01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:26,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're in a Jet, it's interesting because you 1988 01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:29,280 Speaker 2: gotta you gotta do you need line help, I really do, 1989 01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:33,560 Speaker 2: Membo like you gotta go after somebody. 1990 01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:37,479 Speaker 3: You just you got to you got to fix that. 1991 01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:41,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, But you know how the Jets operate, and it 1992 01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:43,000 Speaker 4: would not surprise me. And I don't know if I'd 1993 01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:45,600 Speaker 4: be mad at them if they took Jalen Walker, but 1994 01:42:46,200 --> 01:42:48,320 Speaker 4: and I would understand it. But if you're drafting for 1995 01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:50,720 Speaker 4: need and someone who is not a crazy reach, at 1996 01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:53,479 Speaker 4: that point, I think Membo does make the most sense. Yeah, 1997 01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:55,679 Speaker 4: but Jalen Walker's enticing. 1998 01:42:56,720 --> 01:43:01,080 Speaker 2: And then then if you're Carolina, you gotta go. I 1999 01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:02,160 Speaker 2: think you gotta go Walker. 2000 01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:04,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, you got it. If you're Carolina, whoever it is, 2001 01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:07,439 Speaker 4: you're going best player available, regardless of position. So at 2002 01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:09,240 Speaker 4: that point in time, it will be Walker. If we're 2003 01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:12,479 Speaker 4: assuming Membos going to the Jets, so. 2004 01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:16,480 Speaker 3: This would be interesting if you're of the Saints. 2005 01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:20,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, this guy interesting over after yesterday's news. 2006 01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:23,479 Speaker 3: Right, let's discuss it. Where do you think it? 2007 01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:28,320 Speaker 4: Well, I know, obviously they're gonna need a quarterback anyway. 2008 01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:31,000 Speaker 4: Derek Carr was not going to be the long term answer. 2009 01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:33,280 Speaker 4: So they knew that now whether or not they assumed 2010 01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:34,880 Speaker 4: they were going to take a quarterback in the first 2011 01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:37,080 Speaker 4: round in the top ten. And I don't know if 2012 01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:41,719 Speaker 4: this changes their metric on that or not now based 2013 01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:43,840 Speaker 4: on the draft we're doing now, you know, Jackson Dart 2014 01:43:43,880 --> 01:43:47,400 Speaker 4: and Sajor Sanders are both still available. But that's rich 2015 01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:49,040 Speaker 4: for me for both of them, and I don't know 2016 01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:51,120 Speaker 4: about you, and I know they need one. And it's 2017 01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:53,080 Speaker 4: great to have a project quarterback if you can't, if 2018 01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:55,519 Speaker 4: you know, a quarterback of the future, if you can 2019 01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:57,880 Speaker 4: get one. I just don't know if I would take 2020 01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:00,160 Speaker 4: either of those guys at number nine if I were them. 2021 01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:02,240 Speaker 4: So if I were the Saints, I would also go, 2022 01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:04,880 Speaker 4: you know, best player available at that point, you know, 2023 01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:09,120 Speaker 4: so maybe you know, maybe that's Michael Williams from Georgia, 2024 01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:10,000 Speaker 4: someone like that. 2025 01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:14,360 Speaker 2: See, I think you're right, and I think you should 2026 01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:16,920 Speaker 2: do that. You don't think they will now, I think 2027 01:44:16,920 --> 01:44:21,320 Speaker 2: they're gonna go Jackson Dart. Yeah, this is where I 2028 01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:27,679 Speaker 2: think the Saints go Dart over Shadore. 2029 01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:34,040 Speaker 4: It makes sense to a degree. I would say SHERDERA. 2030 01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:37,680 Speaker 4: Sanders would thrive in a place where he can, you know, 2031 01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:40,080 Speaker 4: if it can be a rhythm and timing offense where 2032 01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:42,000 Speaker 4: he doesn't necessarily have to work and let when he 2033 01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:44,400 Speaker 4: was being mocked to places like Pittsburgh, I don't see 2034 01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:46,559 Speaker 4: the fit there. I just don't think he has the 2035 01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:50,799 Speaker 4: physical tools to play, you know, with Pittsburgh in Cleveland, 2036 01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:53,240 Speaker 4: in Cincinnati in December, I don't know if he has 2037 01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:56,160 Speaker 4: the strength to do that in a climate controlled, you know, 2038 01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:58,960 Speaker 4: dome environment where he's playing for the Saints. You play 2039 01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:01,479 Speaker 4: Atlanta a couple of times a year. I think that's 2040 01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:04,000 Speaker 4: kind of a really good fit now saying that Jackson 2041 01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:05,960 Speaker 4: Dart has some mobility to him. He can do a 2042 01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:08,400 Speaker 4: lot of the same things that Shador can do, but 2043 01:45:08,479 --> 01:45:10,519 Speaker 4: he's actually a better athlete as far as you know, 2044 01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:12,559 Speaker 4: being able to run around and make plays with his legs. 2045 01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:15,960 Speaker 4: So of those two, I feel like I would still 2046 01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:19,479 Speaker 4: go with Shador over Dart. But that being said, I 2047 01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:21,519 Speaker 4: wouldn't take either of them at number nine if I'm 2048 01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:23,360 Speaker 4: the Saints, if anything, I would look to trade back 2049 01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:24,760 Speaker 4: if possible and see if I can get one of 2050 01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:25,759 Speaker 4: those guys in the twenties. 2051 01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:27,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2052 01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:31,040 Speaker 2: I And here's the thing I would agree with you, Like, 2053 01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:37,520 Speaker 2: if I had that selection, I moved back, there's nobody 2054 01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:42,439 Speaker 2: at nine. Put the quarterbacks aside, there's nobody at nine 2055 01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:44,880 Speaker 2: that that I'm like screaming for. 2056 01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:45,720 Speaker 4: Right. 2057 01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:49,439 Speaker 2: This is the problem with the draft is that there's 2058 01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:54,200 Speaker 2: a lot of there's quality players, and it's deep, Like 2059 01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:56,840 Speaker 2: now through the rest of the first round, there's a 2060 01:45:56,840 --> 01:46:00,000 Speaker 2: lot of talent, right, but it's not number nine, ten. 2061 01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:03,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's a number of directions that I mean, 2062 01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:05,960 Speaker 4: and look, sometimes you just can't trade out of it. 2063 01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:07,679 Speaker 4: So if you're forced to have to make a pick, 2064 01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:11,479 Speaker 4: I mean, there are guys like I think the tied 2065 01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:14,479 Speaker 4: end from Penn State might be I mean, just from 2066 01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:17,840 Speaker 4: pure talent and value standpoint, would be a good pick there. 2067 01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:22,600 Speaker 2: Well, I love Warren. I think Warren is going to 2068 01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:26,160 Speaker 2: be a stunt. But if you're again, you're you're the Saints. 2069 01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:32,400 Speaker 2: I mean Warren, I like it. But he's not Bowers. 2070 01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:33,600 Speaker 8: No. 2071 01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:36,360 Speaker 4: I mean he's a different type of player than Bowers, 2072 01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:37,439 Speaker 4: but I think he can have a good end. But 2073 01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:39,599 Speaker 4: especially considering that you can move him around. I mean, 2074 01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:45,280 Speaker 4: he's basically a younger version of and who's the former 2075 01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:47,479 Speaker 4: BYU quarterback who's a gadget guy for them? Whose name 2076 01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:50,120 Speaker 4: slips my mind at the moment, Bri you know who. 2077 01:46:50,160 --> 01:46:53,479 Speaker 4: This is what I'm talking about, Taysom Hill, thank you, 2078 01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:56,280 Speaker 4: who you can play in multiple positions, do a bunch 2079 01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:58,679 Speaker 4: of different things for you while also being a really 2080 01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:03,080 Speaker 4: quality tight end. I can't take him there, okay, fair enough. 2081 01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:05,080 Speaker 4: I mean there are some boards that have him as 2082 01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:07,600 Speaker 4: like the fourth or fifth best prospect overall in the 2083 01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:09,200 Speaker 4: I listen. 2084 01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:12,160 Speaker 2: I love the He's a great kid. I love the kid. 2085 01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:15,240 Speaker 2: He's he's Penn State, He's in my backyard. I love 2086 01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:15,759 Speaker 2: the kid. 2087 01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:18,040 Speaker 3: But I can't take him here. 2088 01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:20,960 Speaker 4: So if you have to take somebody. 2089 01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:24,080 Speaker 3: Number, they have too many. They have just. 2090 01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:27,439 Speaker 2: They have to get things figured out. They have a 2091 01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:28,519 Speaker 2: lot of holes that team. 2092 01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:32,439 Speaker 4: Man. Yeah, yeah, Well maybe at that point you go 2093 01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:35,320 Speaker 4: defensive line. Maybe you go with Piers from Tennessee or 2094 01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:37,600 Speaker 4: someone like that. But I mean, I mean there's a 2095 01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:40,040 Speaker 4: there's a possibility that if you want to move off 2096 01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:43,120 Speaker 4: of nine and you can't, you gotta take somebody so 2097 01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:46,599 Speaker 4: that somebody is either a reach for a quarterback or blank. 2098 01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:50,719 Speaker 4: So I guess Anthony Gargano, you're Mickey Loomis who was blank? 2099 01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:58,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can't trade I can't trade back. I mean, 2100 01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:00,960 Speaker 2: I got checkta go defense. I mean, because I'm not 2101 01:48:01,479 --> 01:48:05,880 Speaker 2: I don't want to take they will if that happens. 2102 01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:06,679 Speaker 2: You're taking Dark. 2103 01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:09,479 Speaker 4: You think they're gonna take Dark if they're they're at nine? 2104 01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:10,120 Speaker 3: Okay, yep. 2105 01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:13,240 Speaker 4: So our resident Saints fan Brie, are you cool Jackson 2106 01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:14,200 Speaker 4: Dark at number nine? 2107 01:48:14,360 --> 01:48:18,280 Speaker 9: I mean I'm unfortunately I'm drinking like the Sanders School laid, 2108 01:48:18,439 --> 01:48:21,479 Speaker 9: like I would love Shador at nine, And I mean 2109 01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:23,760 Speaker 9: like I think you can get like Kyle McCord or 2110 01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:25,400 Speaker 9: like Dylan Gabriel in the second round. 2111 01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:28,000 Speaker 10: I mean, if you know, also just for fun. 2112 01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:29,400 Speaker 4: Well you don't. Anthony loves Kyle McCord. 2113 01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:32,479 Speaker 9: I know, if you did go defense at nine and 2114 01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:34,360 Speaker 9: then if we're still going to get a quarterback in 2115 01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:36,120 Speaker 9: the second round, then like Kyle McCord. 2116 01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:38,120 Speaker 10: But in my world, in pre world, I would love 2117 01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:38,919 Speaker 10: Shadoor Sanders. 2118 01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:40,400 Speaker 4: See. I would go the opposite Brie. 2119 01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:40,960 Speaker 3: I would do. 2120 01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:42,920 Speaker 4: I would do what you mentioned first. I would take 2121 01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:45,120 Speaker 4: another player at nine and circle back in the second 2122 01:48:45,200 --> 01:48:47,719 Speaker 4: round and see if there's a quarterback who I value 2123 01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:49,400 Speaker 4: there with that pick can go that route. 2124 01:48:49,439 --> 01:48:51,280 Speaker 10: But do you think Kyle McCord or like Dylan gabriel 2125 01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:52,240 Speaker 10: would still be available? 2126 01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:54,640 Speaker 4: Oh for sure those guys are probably. Dylan Gabriel is 2127 01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:56,519 Speaker 4: probably gonna be available in the third or fourth round. 2128 01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:01,280 Speaker 4: He just doesn't have the physical measurables McCord you could 2129 01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:03,360 Speaker 4: probably get in the second. He might last into the third. 2130 01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:03,760 Speaker 7: I don't know. 2131 01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:05,960 Speaker 4: Well, what are you hearing? You done tate breakdowns with 2132 01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:07,800 Speaker 4: Baldy and talk to people there, Anthony, what are you 2133 01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:10,680 Speaker 4: hearing just from outsiders? I know how you feel about him, 2134 01:49:10,720 --> 01:49:13,479 Speaker 4: how you Baldy feels about him about like where his 2135 01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:15,160 Speaker 4: value is in the draft and where he might fall. 2136 01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:19,120 Speaker 2: So it is interesting he's one of those kids. Did 2137 01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:21,880 Speaker 2: you know you remember earlier in the show, I was 2138 01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:26,439 Speaker 2: talking about when kids when teams don't talk about you. 2139 01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:32,080 Speaker 3: Yes, correct, that was your response to McCord. 2140 01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:35,479 Speaker 2: Interesting, there are teams that really like him and they 2141 01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:38,320 Speaker 2: don't want to talk about him. 2142 01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:38,640 Speaker 7: You know. 2143 01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:41,000 Speaker 4: It's always funny just the way that this works. When 2144 01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:43,559 Speaker 4: you start hearing guys moving up and down draft boards 2145 01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:45,280 Speaker 4: and all that, and I forget exactly who I heard 2146 01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:48,639 Speaker 4: say this, but it's like, no one moves up or down, 2147 01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:51,400 Speaker 4: like the board is what the board is, like. 2148 01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:53,960 Speaker 3: All of a sudden the board was set ago. 2149 01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:56,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, so three days before the draft, so and so 2150 01:49:56,200 --> 01:49:57,920 Speaker 4: was rising or so and so was falling. It's like, 2151 01:49:57,960 --> 01:50:00,880 Speaker 4: based on what unless some news comes out, unless it's 2152 01:50:00,880 --> 01:50:04,160 Speaker 4: like Laramie Tunsel's smoking or whatever video comes out something 2153 01:50:04,200 --> 01:50:06,439 Speaker 4: like that happens, no one's moving up or down. They 2154 01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:09,080 Speaker 4: kind of are where they are. And what happens is 2155 01:50:09,080 --> 01:50:12,040 Speaker 4: people poison the well and call these these insiders and 2156 01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:14,519 Speaker 4: tell them we're thinking this, we're thinking that to try 2157 01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:16,720 Speaker 4: to throw other people off the trail. That's all this is. 2158 01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:20,040 Speaker 4: But no one's actually moving up or down. That's that's 2159 01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:21,519 Speaker 4: a whole misnomer. 2160 01:50:21,439 --> 01:50:26,280 Speaker 2: Right, right, But they were talking about teams that don't 2161 01:50:26,360 --> 01:50:30,920 Speaker 2: like that with McCord, that they don't even want to 2162 01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:34,439 Speaker 2: talk to you about him because they like him. And 2163 01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:41,840 Speaker 2: he's perfect for teams because he's potentially third round pick. 2164 01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:44,799 Speaker 4: That's kind of where I were thought they go higher. 2165 01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:48,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, like he could go second round, but if 2166 01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:51,280 Speaker 2: you keep him quiet enough, he could last on the 2167 01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:56,240 Speaker 2: third round. But they like him. Listen if you if 2168 01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:59,960 Speaker 2: you watch his tape all but one game last year, 2169 01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:04,680 Speaker 2: all but one game, he's impressive. 2170 01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:08,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and not in the Ohio State stuff. 2171 01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:12,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a scapegoat for that. The Ohigo State 2172 01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:14,439 Speaker 4: still wins last year. If he's the quarterback, I firmly 2173 01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:18,839 Speaker 4: believe that at least Will Howard easily. Yeah, no disrespect 2174 01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:20,960 Speaker 4: to Will Howard, but he's better than Will Howard. He is. 2175 01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:24,280 Speaker 2: I mean go back and look at it. I mean 2176 01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:29,120 Speaker 2: Michigan was tough, dude. Yeah, like they weren't beating Michigan. 2177 01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:30,680 Speaker 2: I don't care who was the quarterback. 2178 01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:36,479 Speaker 4: Yeah. One thing I look at too, just going back 2179 01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:39,519 Speaker 4: to going back to the Saints and what they may 2180 01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:41,439 Speaker 4: or made as far as a quarterback or not, and 2181 01:51:41,479 --> 01:51:43,240 Speaker 4: who they take in the first round, someone they can 2182 01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:45,760 Speaker 4: look at, and considering who their head coaches and the 2183 01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:49,120 Speaker 4: excess success he had with the Eagles this past year. 2184 01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:51,960 Speaker 4: I would take a look at Jalen Milroe as a 2185 01:51:51,960 --> 01:51:58,759 Speaker 4: project that same mold as Jalen. Did you know whoever 2186 01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:00,360 Speaker 4: your starters got. Obviously he's not gonna come in and 2187 01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:02,160 Speaker 4: start from day one. He's a little too raw for that. 2188 01:52:02,240 --> 01:52:05,200 Speaker 4: But he's a lot raw anybody who talks about just 2189 01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:08,560 Speaker 4: the kid the person. He's a great kid, super intelligent, 2190 01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:12,400 Speaker 4: super hard worker. You know, he's someone that you love 2191 01:52:12,439 --> 01:52:13,880 Speaker 4: to have in the building, that you can just get 2192 01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:16,120 Speaker 4: your hands on and work with because he has all 2193 01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:17,040 Speaker 4: the physical measureable. 2194 01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:20,160 Speaker 3: Every last week, God, he would have stayed. Yeah, I know, 2195 01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:22,200 Speaker 3: I know he should have went in the portal. 2196 01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:24,720 Speaker 2: I know that they didn't want to al bad. It 2197 01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:27,120 Speaker 2: was over, but he should have went in the portal. 2198 01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:28,960 Speaker 2: Now one more year would have done him. 2199 01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:29,320 Speaker 4: Wonders. 2200 01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:32,840 Speaker 2: I agree, because you have the problem is remember he's 2201 01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:36,839 Speaker 2: not he's not tall, right, so you got that issue. 2202 01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:41,559 Speaker 4: No, but he's stocky, He's he's sturdy, he's built similar 2203 01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:43,760 Speaker 4: to Jalen. To somebody yeah, I was about to say 2204 01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:44,679 Speaker 4: that a lot like Urts. 2205 01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:47,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's got a great arm, like really he's 2206 01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:51,559 Speaker 2: got a he's got a strong arm. 2207 01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:52,439 Speaker 3: I mean, I. 2208 01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:53,960 Speaker 7: Was. 2209 01:52:54,439 --> 01:52:56,800 Speaker 2: It's a shame because you look at you look at 2210 01:52:56,920 --> 01:53:00,680 Speaker 2: certain games you go, oh my god. Yeah, and then 2211 01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:02,519 Speaker 2: you look at I don't know, the Bull. 2212 01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:06,040 Speaker 4: Michigan that US game. 2213 01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:07,959 Speaker 3: From two he was horrible. 2214 01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:12,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like, uh, if you look at Kyle look 2215 01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:15,640 Speaker 2: at the courts tape, you go, oh my god, like 2216 01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:16,439 Speaker 2: it makes every throw. 2217 01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:18,880 Speaker 3: Then you throw the pit game on you go. 2218 01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:22,040 Speaker 4: What the hell happened? Yeah? 2219 01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:22,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, five picks. 2220 01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:24,800 Speaker 4: Wherever it was? I mean, I mean, I mean guys 2221 01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:27,880 Speaker 4: can have bad games too, exactly what happens the guys, 2222 01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:28,479 Speaker 4: they're all human. 2223 01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:33,600 Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, all right, will come right back, continue to 2224 01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:38,400 Speaker 2: dress the transhun where the fellas k fake cauz hang 2225 01:53:38,520 --> 01:53:43,160 Speaker 2: it Fox Sports Radio Fellas k. 2226 01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:45,840 Speaker 4: Fag because. 2227 01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:52,120 Speaker 2: As we come you live from the tire Rot dot 2228 01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:57,599 Speaker 2: Com studios, and don't forget you can stream this show 2229 01:53:57,800 --> 01:54:00,439 Speaker 2: at all of our Fox Sports Radio show is live 2230 01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:03,360 Speaker 2: twenty four to seven and then new and improved iHeart 2231 01:54:03,479 --> 01:54:06,439 Speaker 2: Radio app to search Fox Sports Radio in the app 2232 01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:09,200 Speaker 2: to stream us live and then one of the newest 2233 01:54:09,240 --> 01:54:12,559 Speaker 2: features in the app is that you can select Fox 2234 01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:15,560 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. It's one of your presets, just like the 2235 01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:19,320 Speaker 2: presets on a radio dial. So be sure to preset 2236 01:54:19,439 --> 01:54:23,040 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app and it will 2237 01:54:23,120 --> 01:54:28,160 Speaker 2: always pop up at the top of your screen. So, 2238 01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:33,720 Speaker 2: uh fag I love the draft is the best we're 2239 01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:36,960 Speaker 2: going through. We'll continue to go through it all. What 2240 01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:39,919 Speaker 2: makes it so captivating. 2241 01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:45,400 Speaker 4: Because it gives people hope and the it's the belief 2242 01:54:45,480 --> 01:54:48,600 Speaker 4: and the unknown that we found our guy, you know. 2243 01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:51,480 Speaker 4: And you especially if it's someone who you've heard about, 2244 01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:53,440 Speaker 4: you know. So if you're at the top of the 2245 01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:55,640 Speaker 4: draft and you hear people keep saying the name Ashton 2246 01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:58,040 Speaker 4: GenZ ash and GenZ Ashton Gentz, and you don't follow 2247 01:54:58,120 --> 01:55:01,160 Speaker 4: college football, which that's there's a healthy amount of people 2248 01:55:01,200 --> 01:55:03,440 Speaker 4: who are NFL fans who don't followage college football on 2249 01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:06,320 Speaker 4: a weekend to week out basis, And all of a sudden, 2250 01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:07,840 Speaker 4: you find out that your team got them, and they're 2251 01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:10,400 Speaker 4: getting these comparisons and as they compare them to EMMITTT 2252 01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:12,400 Speaker 4: Smith or Saquon Barkle, who's like, all right, we got 2253 01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:16,360 Speaker 4: our guy. This is amazing. Let's go, and so everybody's optimistic. 2254 01:55:16,640 --> 01:55:19,520 Speaker 4: You know, this is the season where you know, it 2255 01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:22,400 Speaker 4: happens in every sport spring training. Everybody thinks they're gonna 2256 01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:24,000 Speaker 4: have a great season and turn things around and it's 2257 01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:26,440 Speaker 4: gonna be a season of optimism. And then you're the 2258 01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:29,040 Speaker 4: White Sox in year three and eleven. Sorry, Mark, uh, 2259 01:55:29,200 --> 01:55:31,280 Speaker 4: you know that's just how that's how it works. So 2260 01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:33,160 Speaker 4: I think you're just in the optimism season. This is 2261 01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:34,720 Speaker 4: how the off season works in most sports. 2262 01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:37,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, the NFL what it is though, if it's even 2263 01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:42,240 Speaker 2: you're right, obviously right, but the draft as an even 2264 01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:43,000 Speaker 2: bigger hold. 2265 01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:46,080 Speaker 3: I know these kids, like there's a dude I work 2266 01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:49,960 Speaker 3: with who is a huge draft. 2267 01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:54,520 Speaker 2: Nick right, doesn't watch college football during the year, Like, 2268 01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:57,240 Speaker 2: how are you missed your draft and you don't like 2269 01:55:57,360 --> 01:55:58,080 Speaker 2: college football? 2270 01:55:58,280 --> 01:55:59,920 Speaker 4: Yeah that's odd to me. Well see because at then 2271 01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:02,480 Speaker 4: at that point, you're lily literally at the mercy of 2272 01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:04,760 Speaker 4: what the talking heads tell you about a particular player 2273 01:56:04,840 --> 01:56:05,920 Speaker 4: and can't form any apage. 2274 01:56:06,160 --> 01:56:08,840 Speaker 2: I go, I watch all the footage. You know she 2275 01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:10,640 Speaker 2: will take for as well. I mean I guess you'd 2276 01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:12,240 Speaker 2: go YouTube, can watch whatever you want. 2277 01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:13,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, but. 2278 01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:16,800 Speaker 2: You know it's not the coaches tape that you know, 2279 01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:19,600 Speaker 2: we'll get it at NFL films right still, like you 2280 01:56:19,680 --> 01:56:21,040 Speaker 2: can watch you know whatever. 2281 01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:21,680 Speaker 7: You know. 2282 01:56:22,680 --> 01:56:24,960 Speaker 2: I just don't get it though, Like you're either a 2283 01:56:25,040 --> 01:56:28,640 Speaker 2: college football fit and are like that should be one 2284 01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:29,800 Speaker 2: in one and one. 2285 01:56:30,760 --> 01:56:34,160 Speaker 4: You would think, but you know that's not always the case, 2286 01:56:34,240 --> 01:56:36,400 Speaker 4: and you just you formulate your opinion based off of 2287 01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:38,200 Speaker 4: the opinions of others and what they tell you and 2288 01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:40,480 Speaker 4: whether this guy was ranked and whether or not so 2289 01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:43,400 Speaker 4: and so was a reach at this certain pick, which 2290 01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:46,000 Speaker 4: no one really knows for five years after, you know. 2291 01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:48,440 Speaker 4: That's why, that's why I'm not a big proponent. And 2292 01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:50,760 Speaker 4: one of the things I hate about this season is 2293 01:56:50,920 --> 01:56:54,200 Speaker 4: draft grades. Who owes the biggest this team got an 2294 01:56:54,200 --> 01:56:58,080 Speaker 4: a triple plus, you know, and it's like, well, mostly 2295 01:56:58,200 --> 01:56:59,520 Speaker 4: go back in time and look at the teams that 2296 01:56:59,560 --> 01:57:01,480 Speaker 4: actually had a triple plus and grades in the in 2297 01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:03,840 Speaker 4: the in the draft, and how well all those picks 2298 01:57:03,880 --> 01:57:06,400 Speaker 4: actually worked out. Most of the time, it's you know, 2299 01:57:06,520 --> 01:57:08,200 Speaker 4: you draft guys low on the and you hit on 2300 01:57:08,280 --> 01:57:10,440 Speaker 4: a few, you miss on a few, and you're batting 2301 01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:12,760 Speaker 4: you know, three hundred or something, and you hope you 2302 01:57:12,880 --> 01:57:14,400 Speaker 4: hit on somebody who is an impact player. 2303 01:57:15,160 --> 01:57:19,200 Speaker 2: No, it's it's actually stupid, Like when you think about it, 2304 01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:21,640 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, he's kind of stupid. 2305 01:57:21,680 --> 01:57:23,040 Speaker 4: I don't want to make fun of what we do, 2306 01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:26,280 Speaker 4: but that is because no one knows. 2307 01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:29,880 Speaker 3: No, let me listen, it's legit that you go like 2308 01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:33,080 Speaker 3: you like a player, right, but so much of it 2309 01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:37,400 Speaker 3: is what you had where he goes. 2310 01:57:38,000 --> 01:57:40,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's based on circumstance. Who the who the head 2311 01:57:40,840 --> 01:57:43,600 Speaker 4: coach is, and the coordinator, the system that you're running, 2312 01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:46,200 Speaker 4: the players if you're a quarterback, the players in front 2313 01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:48,080 Speaker 4: of you or running back of the players in front 2314 01:57:48,080 --> 01:57:51,400 Speaker 4: of you on the offensive line, all all that stuff matters. 2315 01:57:51,600 --> 01:57:51,760 Speaker 3: You know. 2316 01:57:52,680 --> 01:57:56,320 Speaker 4: If if Tua goes to you know, Cleveland, is Tua 2317 01:57:56,400 --> 01:57:58,640 Speaker 4: what he is now in Miami exactly? 2318 01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:04,000 Speaker 2: You know, then you have the factor that nobody knows about, 2319 01:58:05,280 --> 01:58:10,080 Speaker 2: which is all the behind the scene stuff with kids 2320 01:58:10,120 --> 01:58:12,560 Speaker 2: are dealing with why what's. 2321 01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:13,440 Speaker 3: The true makeup? 2322 01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:18,360 Speaker 2: Like even these teams that are interviewing kids to combine, 2323 01:58:18,640 --> 01:58:21,160 Speaker 2: you can't get a true depiction of a kid for 2324 01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:24,280 Speaker 2: a you know, twenty minutes sit down, even an hour. 2325 01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:26,320 Speaker 4: Even beyond that, I mean, you can do all the 2326 01:58:26,360 --> 01:58:28,240 Speaker 4: intel in the world and do deep dives and talk 2327 01:58:28,320 --> 01:58:30,440 Speaker 4: to middle school teachers and all that, and some guys 2328 01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:32,680 Speaker 4: still make boneheaded decisions and are out of the league 2329 01:58:32,720 --> 01:58:35,680 Speaker 4: in four years. Yeah, even with all that groundwork that 2330 01:58:35,800 --> 01:58:37,880 Speaker 4: you lay, it's science. 2331 01:58:38,080 --> 01:58:40,320 Speaker 2: You know, we've already seen. Look at the first round 2332 01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:45,600 Speaker 2: you mentioned Pierce earlier. Yeah, right, you got Nolan, Walter, Nolan, 2333 01:58:46,640 --> 01:58:49,400 Speaker 2: you got you know, you had to kick Green. There's 2334 01:58:49,640 --> 01:58:51,760 Speaker 2: you know, everybody's got some skeletons. 2335 01:58:52,160 --> 01:58:55,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, no one's ever perfect. You know, you just want 2336 01:58:55,160 --> 01:58:57,000 Speaker 4: to try to find a guy that fits what you 2337 01:58:57,120 --> 01:58:59,080 Speaker 4: do and hope that he's a personality fit and keeps 2338 01:58:59,120 --> 01:59:01,000 Speaker 4: himself clean off the feet. Then again, they can check 2339 01:59:01,040 --> 01:59:03,520 Speaker 4: all those boxes heading in and they they could put 2340 01:59:03,520 --> 01:59:05,840 Speaker 4: themselves in the wrong situation once they get there, and 2341 01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:06,840 Speaker 4: it can all go to hell. 2342 01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:07,160 Speaker 7: You know. 2343 01:59:07,520 --> 01:59:08,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, you just don't know. 2344 01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:12,680 Speaker 2: No, it's it's it's wild, all right, uh big At 2345 01:59:12,840 --> 01:59:15,400 Speaker 2: last hour, the brain will join us. We'll take a 2346 01:59:15,440 --> 01:59:18,960 Speaker 2: look at everything. Switch straight ahead. 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You'll see 2362 02:00:20,280 --> 02:00:22,800 Speaker 2: this show posted right after we get off the air 2363 02:00:23,240 --> 02:00:24,400 Speaker 2: in case you're just joining us. 2364 02:00:24,680 --> 02:00:25,440 Speaker 3: We've been all over the. 2365 02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:31,800 Speaker 2: Place draft and to the NBA regular season is tomorrow, 2366 02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:34,480 Speaker 2: so we put together, we put the bed this season. 2367 02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:39,600 Speaker 2: And it's really a tale advantage point from FIGI. Where 2368 02:00:39,920 --> 02:00:45,080 Speaker 2: two teams in Los Angeles are really good, right, both 2369 02:00:45,160 --> 02:00:51,080 Speaker 2: have a chance, both have revived been revived, the Clippers 2370 02:00:51,160 --> 02:00:55,800 Speaker 2: by Kawhi coming back from injury, the Lakers with the 2371 02:00:55,880 --> 02:01:01,919 Speaker 2: Luca trade. And then you look at those two teams 2372 02:01:02,520 --> 02:01:06,120 Speaker 2: that are in the mix. All right, okay, see, certainly 2373 02:01:06,240 --> 02:01:09,760 Speaker 2: the best team. But after that, you got that second 2374 02:01:09,800 --> 02:01:12,800 Speaker 2: tier team that includes both I think the Clippers, the Lakers, 2375 02:01:13,680 --> 02:01:14,720 Speaker 2: Golden State. 2376 02:01:15,160 --> 02:01:16,680 Speaker 4: Denver, if you want to put them in there. 2377 02:01:16,800 --> 02:01:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, like you know, but it's a tail 2378 02:01:20,600 --> 02:01:25,400 Speaker 2: advantage point because if you're you know, west of the Mississippi, 2379 02:01:25,920 --> 02:01:29,120 Speaker 2: east of the Mississippi, you're going to this league blows. 2380 02:01:33,080 --> 02:01:38,000 Speaker 2: I'm sick of Boston and Cleveland can't beat them, and 2381 02:01:38,160 --> 02:01:38,440 Speaker 2: that's it. 2382 02:01:39,800 --> 02:01:41,800 Speaker 4: Cleveland has zero shot against the Celtics in the seven 2383 02:01:41,840 --> 02:01:45,360 Speaker 4: game series. You know, it's part of my Celtic Yeah, 2384 02:01:45,400 --> 02:01:47,320 Speaker 4: hete yeah, I get it, you know what I mean. 2385 02:01:47,440 --> 02:01:50,040 Speaker 4: I'm just thinking this, you know that should be boring. 2386 02:01:50,080 --> 02:01:53,080 Speaker 4: I've seen it too many times. I've just seen it. Yeah. 2387 02:01:53,520 --> 02:01:56,240 Speaker 2: As much as I'll be watching and rooting for Cleveland, 2388 02:01:57,280 --> 02:02:00,520 Speaker 2: I just don't. They're just vam pires. 2389 02:02:01,520 --> 02:02:02,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're great. 2390 02:02:03,160 --> 02:02:07,360 Speaker 3: Like you know, my date is is born out of jealousy. 2391 02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:11,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, Geltics. You know, the Celtics are the envy 2392 02:02:11,480 --> 02:02:12,920 Speaker 4: of every team in the in the league. They are 2393 02:02:12,960 --> 02:02:18,160 Speaker 4: the prototypical twenty twenty five NBA roster. Yeah, switch everything five, 2394 02:02:18,320 --> 02:02:20,880 Speaker 4: you know, phenomenal defenders at any given time. Everybody can 2395 02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:23,320 Speaker 4: shoot from the outside, that's what everybody wants. 2396 02:02:25,040 --> 02:02:28,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I do hate all the threes. Yeah, like, 2397 02:02:28,240 --> 02:02:30,680 Speaker 2: I like, I do believe that they should look at 2398 02:02:30,920 --> 02:02:32,560 Speaker 2: making some real changes. 2399 02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:35,520 Speaker 4: The three point line back. 2400 02:02:36,160 --> 02:02:38,720 Speaker 3: Yep, I get ready to corner three and move it back. 2401 02:02:39,160 --> 02:02:41,400 Speaker 4: Also, just kill the corner three completely, okay yep. 2402 02:02:41,720 --> 02:02:44,560 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, it does nothing for the game 2403 02:02:44,640 --> 02:02:47,480 Speaker 2: aesthetically having a guy sit out there. 2404 02:02:49,720 --> 02:02:52,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, especially nowadays because there are certain there 2405 02:02:52,560 --> 02:02:54,760 Speaker 4: are certain guys who literally do nothing but spot up 2406 02:02:54,760 --> 02:02:56,480 Speaker 4: in the corner. I think Bruce Bowen of the Spurs 2407 02:02:56,600 --> 02:02:58,840 Speaker 4: was the first person to really start that trend. He 2408 02:02:59,040 --> 02:03:01,320 Speaker 4: was the first prototypical three and D guy defended the 2409 02:03:01,360 --> 02:03:03,720 Speaker 4: best perimeter defender and literally just parked in the corner 2410 02:03:03,840 --> 02:03:05,960 Speaker 4: and just feasted on open corner threes. 2411 02:03:07,680 --> 02:03:11,640 Speaker 2: I think there needs to be more mid range back. 2412 02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:14,800 Speaker 2: I think there needs to be a little bit. I 2413 02:03:15,120 --> 02:03:20,640 Speaker 2: think just from an aesthetic standpoint. Look, the shift was it. 2414 02:03:22,320 --> 02:03:25,480 Speaker 4: It really gets the rules, not at all against the rules, 2415 02:03:25,560 --> 02:03:26,720 Speaker 4: yeah right. 2416 02:03:27,400 --> 02:03:34,400 Speaker 3: But the issue is it made for bad baseball, boring baseball. 2417 02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:39,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. I will say with the shift, it actually affected 2418 02:03:39,520 --> 02:03:42,960 Speaker 4: the numbers that the players were putting up. Averages were 2419 02:03:43,040 --> 02:03:48,160 Speaker 4: dropping precipitous yeah, so for the three point shot, it's 2420 02:03:48,200 --> 02:03:51,040 Speaker 4: not necessarily esthetically might not be esthetically pleasing, but it's 2421 02:03:51,080 --> 02:03:52,920 Speaker 4: not as if guys are chucking up threes and nobody 2422 02:03:52,960 --> 02:03:55,120 Speaker 4: can make them. I mean, there may be made as 2423 02:03:55,160 --> 02:03:57,600 Speaker 4: at a higher clip as they ever have been, you know. 2424 02:03:57,880 --> 02:03:59,840 Speaker 4: So it's the volume. 2425 02:04:00,080 --> 02:04:04,080 Speaker 2: The volume went up dramatically, right right, which is the 2426 02:04:04,160 --> 02:04:08,720 Speaker 2: same which to me makes for boring basketball, like when 2427 02:04:08,800 --> 02:04:11,400 Speaker 2: it first came into vogue. If you think about it, 2428 02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:15,920 Speaker 2: the math is off for the degree of difficulty. 2429 02:04:18,200 --> 02:04:20,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, the math actually, I mean the math actually 2430 02:04:20,240 --> 02:04:22,760 Speaker 4: matches itself up. It's like, if you shoot thirty five 2431 02:04:22,800 --> 02:04:25,600 Speaker 4: percent from three, it's the equivalent of shooting fifty percent 2432 02:04:25,680 --> 02:04:30,440 Speaker 4: from two. So you put up more attempts. Yes, you 2433 02:04:30,520 --> 02:04:32,640 Speaker 4: make a lower percentage, but you're getting an additional point 2434 02:04:32,720 --> 02:04:35,920 Speaker 4: every time you make one. So the math. 2435 02:04:36,160 --> 02:04:38,120 Speaker 2: So when I say the math is off, I mean 2436 02:04:38,480 --> 02:04:44,720 Speaker 2: the math to make it a legitimate game where you're 2437 02:04:44,880 --> 02:04:46,440 Speaker 2: not too heavy on the three. 2438 02:04:47,280 --> 02:04:48,160 Speaker 3: The math is off. 2439 02:04:49,480 --> 02:04:52,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, when it comes to the degree of difficulty to 2440 02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:56,600 Speaker 4: de emphasize it, right, yeah, which is why in baseball 2441 02:04:56,680 --> 02:04:59,800 Speaker 4: the changes they've made, they haven't de emphasized the home run. 2442 02:04:59,840 --> 02:05:01,640 Speaker 4: But what they've done is they've put more of a 2443 02:05:02,400 --> 02:05:05,640 Speaker 4: spotlight on being able to get on base and steal bases. 2444 02:05:05,680 --> 02:05:07,800 Speaker 4: Now that's not part. That's part of the. 2445 02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:11,480 Speaker 3: Game that brought it up. When guys swipe bags. 2446 02:05:11,680 --> 02:05:14,480 Speaker 4: It's I will say, there's a there's a bit of 2447 02:05:14,520 --> 02:05:17,560 Speaker 4: an overcorrection. I can't have guys steal in seventy five bases. 2448 02:05:18,600 --> 02:05:21,320 Speaker 4: You know, that gets to a level of absurdity, to 2449 02:05:21,480 --> 02:05:22,920 Speaker 4: to a certain degree, and I don't know if they 2450 02:05:23,000 --> 02:05:24,480 Speaker 4: maybe they'll go back and look at it again. I 2451 02:05:24,520 --> 02:05:30,600 Speaker 4: don't know. You fix outs, Yeah, it's just so easy 2452 02:05:30,720 --> 02:05:33,120 Speaker 4: now because you're telling pictures they can't throw over or 2453 02:05:33,160 --> 02:05:34,880 Speaker 4: they have there's limits on how often they can throw 2454 02:05:34,960 --> 02:05:38,520 Speaker 4: over it. It seems like it makes it a lot 2455 02:05:38,600 --> 02:05:40,600 Speaker 4: easier for guys to steal bases, more so than it 2456 02:05:40,680 --> 02:05:43,480 Speaker 4: really needs to be. So that part, I'm not the biggest. 2457 02:05:43,560 --> 02:05:45,680 Speaker 4: The shift banning of the shift short to a degree 2458 02:05:45,680 --> 02:05:48,040 Speaker 4: I'm fine with, and I know they want to speak 2459 02:05:48,080 --> 02:05:50,560 Speaker 4: the game up to a certain degree, but you know, 2460 02:05:50,680 --> 02:05:52,680 Speaker 4: being able to look runners back and step off and 2461 02:05:52,720 --> 02:05:55,720 Speaker 4: throw over a couple of times, you know, that's part 2462 02:05:55,760 --> 02:05:57,440 Speaker 4: of the strategy of baseball that I wish they would 2463 02:05:57,440 --> 02:06:00,680 Speaker 4: have kept personally. I don't need guys swiping eighty five bags. 2464 02:06:02,720 --> 02:06:04,760 Speaker 2: All right, let me uh, let me play a little 2465 02:06:04,800 --> 02:06:09,240 Speaker 2: game with you, speaking of baseball. Yep, I'm going to 2466 02:06:09,320 --> 02:06:11,320 Speaker 2: give you the early part of the standings. And you 2467 02:06:11,400 --> 02:06:13,480 Speaker 2: know we always say about the early part of any 2468 02:06:13,600 --> 02:06:15,800 Speaker 2: season is that it can lie. 2469 02:06:16,520 --> 02:06:17,080 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 2470 02:06:17,920 --> 02:06:20,560 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna I'm gonna give you a team and 2471 02:06:20,680 --> 02:06:24,080 Speaker 2: their record, and you tell me whether it's the truth 2472 02:06:24,840 --> 02:06:25,440 Speaker 2: or a lie. 2473 02:06:26,160 --> 02:06:32,480 Speaker 3: Okay, the Yankees seven and six, that's a lie. 2474 02:06:34,280 --> 02:06:36,360 Speaker 4: They're better than that, although I don't think they're dominant. 2475 02:06:36,360 --> 02:06:39,760 Speaker 4: They've got major pitching issues, but they're not five hundred. 2476 02:06:39,800 --> 02:06:44,480 Speaker 4: They'll be a playoff team. The Orioles at five and eight, 2477 02:06:45,360 --> 02:06:48,760 Speaker 4: definitely a lie. They're much better than that, are they? 2478 02:06:49,640 --> 02:06:50,040 Speaker 4: I think so? 2479 02:06:51,480 --> 02:06:55,560 Speaker 2: I thought so too, but somebody else told me, somebody 2480 02:06:56,160 --> 02:06:59,120 Speaker 2: in the game was like, you're overrating them a lot. 2481 02:06:59,360 --> 02:07:00,360 Speaker 3: They look at their pitching. 2482 02:07:01,080 --> 02:07:04,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, look they've lost some pitching for sure, but I 2483 02:07:05,000 --> 02:07:06,360 Speaker 4: mean their lineup. 2484 02:07:06,080 --> 02:07:10,680 Speaker 3: Is still there, and their lineup is still great. 2485 02:07:10,760 --> 02:07:13,760 Speaker 4: Right, so I think they can hit themselves now, if 2486 02:07:13,760 --> 02:07:15,600 Speaker 4: you want to argue that. Last year people thought like, hey, 2487 02:07:15,680 --> 02:07:17,240 Speaker 4: this is this is their year to make a run 2488 02:07:17,320 --> 02:07:19,720 Speaker 4: to the World Series. I don't think they they're good 2489 02:07:19,760 --> 02:07:21,160 Speaker 4: enough to make a run to the World Series, but 2490 02:07:21,160 --> 02:07:23,240 Speaker 4: they're good enough to compete in the Ale East and 2491 02:07:23,320 --> 02:07:25,680 Speaker 4: make it and make it into the playoffs. Yeah, and 2492 02:07:25,760 --> 02:07:27,440 Speaker 4: you're better and they're better. They're not. They're five and 2493 02:07:27,520 --> 02:07:29,160 Speaker 4: eight right now, so obviously you'd be one of the 2494 02:07:29,160 --> 02:07:30,920 Speaker 4: worst teams in the league if you played at that clip, 2495 02:07:31,200 --> 02:07:34,120 Speaker 4: which they're not. So they're better than their record, though 2496 02:07:34,160 --> 02:07:36,960 Speaker 4: I do not believe that they're a championship contender. I 2497 02:07:36,960 --> 02:07:40,120 Speaker 4: think they're just a playoff contender, all right. 2498 02:07:40,360 --> 02:07:44,760 Speaker 3: The Tigers at eight and five, the Guardians at seven 2499 02:07:44,840 --> 02:07:45,240 Speaker 3: and six. 2500 02:07:46,400 --> 02:07:48,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Tigers and Guardians are I think, I think 2501 02:07:48,680 --> 02:07:50,960 Speaker 4: are the class of the Central. Those are the two 2502 02:07:51,000 --> 02:07:52,560 Speaker 4: teams that are going to battle it out at the 2503 02:07:52,640 --> 02:07:56,400 Speaker 4: Kansas City I think is improving. Uh. But Detroit at 2504 02:07:56,400 --> 02:07:59,280 Speaker 4: eight and five, Yeah, they're gonna be uh, you know, 2505 02:08:00,320 --> 02:08:02,800 Speaker 4: fifteen to twenty games over five hundred competing with CLEVELANDO, 2506 02:08:02,800 --> 02:08:04,160 Speaker 4: I think is going to be right around that same 2507 02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:08,320 Speaker 4: situation and competing for the Central versus n a wildcard spot. 2508 02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:10,840 Speaker 4: So that's where I see those two teams finishing. 2509 02:08:11,520 --> 02:08:11,840 Speaker 3: All right. 2510 02:08:13,000 --> 02:08:18,560 Speaker 4: The Rangers at nine and five I don't know what 2511 02:08:18,640 --> 02:08:21,120 Speaker 4: the final record is gonna end up looking like for them, 2512 02:08:21,920 --> 02:08:24,200 Speaker 4: but I do think that they're gonna end up being 2513 02:08:24,320 --> 02:08:27,160 Speaker 4: one of the being the team in the American League West. 2514 02:08:27,160 --> 02:08:28,920 Speaker 4: I think Houston's taken a step back this year. 2515 02:08:31,200 --> 02:08:33,440 Speaker 3: Cam Smith had it last night, by the way, right. 2516 02:08:33,480 --> 02:08:43,440 Speaker 4: Right, So the Angels your Angels eight five? What fools? 2517 02:08:43,480 --> 02:08:47,640 Speaker 4: Gold don't believe it for half a second. Absolutely, And 2518 02:08:48,080 --> 02:08:50,240 Speaker 4: it's encouraging that Mike Trout has gotten off to the 2519 02:08:50,280 --> 02:08:52,320 Speaker 4: hot start that he's gotten off too, is you know, 2520 02:08:52,880 --> 02:08:55,320 Speaker 4: hitting home runs fifty thousand miles away like he used to, 2521 02:08:55,400 --> 02:08:58,240 Speaker 4: which is great to see. But they don't have enough 2522 02:08:58,320 --> 02:09:00,320 Speaker 4: in the pitching staff, and I don't know if they 2523 02:09:00,320 --> 02:09:01,960 Speaker 4: have that. They definitely don't have the depth in their 2524 02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:05,040 Speaker 4: offensive lineup for the entire season to maintain that. So 2525 02:09:05,240 --> 02:09:07,040 Speaker 4: absolutely not not a playoff team. 2526 02:09:08,400 --> 02:09:10,360 Speaker 3: All right, Let's go to. 2527 02:09:13,560 --> 02:09:18,800 Speaker 2: The Dodgers at eleven and four. I think people are going, 2528 02:09:20,120 --> 02:09:22,200 Speaker 2: how in the world did they lose four games? 2529 02:09:23,760 --> 02:09:28,600 Speaker 4: You tell me, mister Philly they took three, by the. 2530 02:09:28,600 --> 02:09:32,480 Speaker 2: Way through something here with Otani. What do you mean, 2531 02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:34,040 Speaker 2: not play well against Phillies? 2532 02:09:34,520 --> 02:09:36,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Dodgers in general, and I didn't know. Listen 2533 02:09:36,960 --> 02:09:39,360 Speaker 4: to our David vassa our insider who covers the Dodgers 2534 02:09:39,400 --> 02:09:41,520 Speaker 4: for a local affiliate A five seventy l A Sports. 2535 02:09:41,520 --> 02:09:43,440 Speaker 4: The Phillies have had the Dodgers' number the last couple 2536 02:09:43,520 --> 02:09:46,040 Speaker 4: of seasons. Oh yeah, just in their heads to have matchups. 2537 02:09:46,520 --> 02:09:47,880 Speaker 4: And there are many people who felt like, if the 2538 02:09:47,920 --> 02:09:50,800 Speaker 4: Dodgers played the Phillies in the postseason last year, you know, 2539 02:09:50,920 --> 02:09:53,520 Speaker 4: the Phillies would have would have probably taken that series. 2540 02:09:54,320 --> 02:09:57,360 Speaker 3: Yep. So that's the notion here. 2541 02:09:57,840 --> 02:10:01,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's like, give us the Dodge, which is 2542 02:10:01,400 --> 02:10:03,520 Speaker 4: crazy to say. You know what, First of all, when 2543 02:10:03,560 --> 02:10:05,360 Speaker 4: I put it beyond Bryce Harper to say that, because 2544 02:10:05,400 --> 02:10:07,360 Speaker 4: that's just the kind of dog and competitor that he is, 2545 02:10:07,440 --> 02:10:10,080 Speaker 4: which I love about him, he'd say that explicitly, I 2546 02:10:10,160 --> 02:10:13,000 Speaker 4: want to face the best. Oh yeah, So the Dodgers 2547 02:10:13,040 --> 02:10:15,720 Speaker 4: at eleven to four, they'll they'll definitely maintain that. They'll 2548 02:10:15,760 --> 02:10:17,760 Speaker 4: they'll they'll be knocking on the door of one hundred, 2549 02:10:17,760 --> 02:10:19,680 Speaker 4: between one hundred and one hundred and ten wins this year. 2550 02:10:20,280 --> 02:10:23,480 Speaker 2: Barrow buddy, David Cige, I tell you about right who 2551 02:10:23,800 --> 02:10:26,040 Speaker 2: used to play you know, he played fifteen seasons in 2552 02:10:26,080 --> 02:10:29,400 Speaker 2: the Biggs, right, So we were bsking. You know, this 2553 02:10:29,680 --> 02:10:33,320 Speaker 2: was before the season. He said the Dodgers would win 2554 02:10:33,400 --> 02:10:39,200 Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty games. Oh my god, I go, 2555 02:10:39,360 --> 02:10:40,280 Speaker 2: do you're off pace? 2556 02:10:40,800 --> 02:10:45,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's rich will consider, I mean, And if you 2557 02:10:46,000 --> 02:10:47,960 Speaker 4: take it from a fifty thousand foot view, it's like, 2558 02:10:48,040 --> 02:10:49,560 Speaker 4: oh my god. They have all this talent and look 2559 02:10:49,600 --> 02:10:51,200 Speaker 4: at their bullpen and look at their you know, all 2560 02:10:51,240 --> 02:10:53,640 Speaker 4: the it's like, all right, well, you know, Freddy's still 2561 02:10:53,680 --> 02:10:55,080 Speaker 4: coming off of a bit of an injury. You had 2562 02:10:55,080 --> 02:10:56,920 Speaker 4: to play this first game in two weeks last night 2563 02:10:57,040 --> 02:11:00,280 Speaker 4: or ten days last night. Their pitching staff all of 2564 02:11:00,480 --> 02:11:02,320 Speaker 4: like literally all their guys are coming off of some 2565 02:11:02,400 --> 02:11:05,360 Speaker 4: sort of injury. And really that's been the biggest issue 2566 02:11:05,400 --> 02:11:07,800 Speaker 4: for them. The four losses that they've had have been 2567 02:11:07,920 --> 02:11:12,840 Speaker 4: either poor defense or poor pitching. And you have two 2568 02:11:12,880 --> 02:11:15,600 Speaker 4: guys in your rotation that can only pitch once every 2569 02:11:15,720 --> 02:11:18,640 Speaker 4: six days because they're coming over from Japan. That's Yamamoto 2570 02:11:18,680 --> 02:11:22,800 Speaker 4: and Sasaki. Health issues abound with a bunch of other guys. 2571 02:11:22,840 --> 02:11:25,960 Speaker 4: You just put your big free agent signing, Blake Snell, 2572 02:11:26,040 --> 02:11:28,840 Speaker 4: on the injury list. So it's not of if the 2573 02:11:28,880 --> 02:11:30,720 Speaker 4: Dodgers are going to roll over everybody and win one 2574 02:11:31,160 --> 02:11:36,400 Speaker 4: hundred and thirty games is ridiculous. I appreciate that the confidence, 2575 02:11:36,840 --> 02:11:40,200 Speaker 4: but it's really hard to ask a team who just 2576 02:11:40,280 --> 02:11:42,040 Speaker 4: won the World Series to come back and break and 2577 02:11:42,120 --> 02:11:44,320 Speaker 4: break the record for most wins in the history of 2578 02:11:44,360 --> 02:11:46,320 Speaker 4: the sport in the regular season. I think that's a 2579 02:11:46,360 --> 02:11:46,840 Speaker 4: tall ask. 2580 02:11:48,360 --> 02:11:51,480 Speaker 2: All right, let's stay in the West, all right, yes, 2581 02:11:52,160 --> 02:11:54,960 Speaker 2: because I'm sure you and I have to agree on 2582 02:11:55,040 --> 02:11:55,360 Speaker 2: this one. 2583 02:11:55,440 --> 02:11:57,240 Speaker 3: The Pods eleven and three. 2584 02:11:59,200 --> 02:12:01,320 Speaker 4: I think the Poders not going anywhere. I know they 2585 02:12:01,400 --> 02:12:03,240 Speaker 4: lost some people in the off season. They tried to 2586 02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:05,920 Speaker 4: trade Dylan Cees they weren't able to, but that's still 2587 02:12:05,960 --> 02:12:09,560 Speaker 4: a talented roster and especially talented line up. Yes, so 2588 02:12:09,880 --> 02:12:11,760 Speaker 4: why people were kind of writing them off? And I 2589 02:12:11,840 --> 02:12:13,680 Speaker 4: know they have an ownership issue and they didn't spend 2590 02:12:13,720 --> 02:12:16,320 Speaker 4: a lot of money this offseason, but I mean, you 2591 02:12:16,400 --> 02:12:18,920 Speaker 4: got a rise. It was a batting champion, Machado All Star, 2592 02:12:19,560 --> 02:12:22,240 Speaker 4: Fernando Tatis Junior All Star, crowning Worth Rookie of the 2593 02:12:22,400 --> 02:12:24,480 Speaker 4: or excuse me, a Merrow Rookie of the Year, Croninworth 2594 02:12:24,480 --> 02:12:27,040 Speaker 4: All Star. Like they even if they're pitching is but 2595 02:12:27,160 --> 02:12:30,760 Speaker 4: sub par offensively that'll be good enough to get them. 2596 02:12:30,880 --> 02:12:32,760 Speaker 4: You know, ninety plus wins right there. 2597 02:12:33,240 --> 02:12:37,240 Speaker 2: I great, dude, I'm with you. I think they're legit. Yeah, 2598 02:12:37,360 --> 02:12:41,400 Speaker 2: they're not going anywhere. Here's the team that I'm shocked at. 2599 02:12:41,960 --> 02:12:47,320 Speaker 2: I don't think you're the only one three Giants right now. 2600 02:12:47,480 --> 02:12:50,480 Speaker 4: I will say this. A few years ago, the Giants 2601 02:12:50,560 --> 02:12:52,320 Speaker 4: got off to a really good start and people wrote 2602 02:12:52,360 --> 02:12:54,480 Speaker 4: them off and said, oh, they'll fade, they'll fait, they'll fade, 2603 02:12:54,480 --> 02:12:55,880 Speaker 4: and they I think they won like one hundred and 2604 02:12:56,000 --> 02:12:59,000 Speaker 4: five games and won the division, and won the division 2605 02:12:59,040 --> 02:13:00,720 Speaker 4: by one game over the Dots, and they played each 2606 02:13:00,760 --> 02:13:04,160 Speaker 4: other in the wildcart round. There's no I guess it 2607 02:13:04,200 --> 02:13:06,920 Speaker 4: can happen again. I don't necessarily see it happening. I 2608 02:13:06,960 --> 02:13:08,880 Speaker 4: do think they'll fall back down to earth at some point, 2609 02:13:08,960 --> 02:13:12,320 Speaker 4: but I mean they've they've they've been playing well and 2610 02:13:12,480 --> 02:13:14,760 Speaker 4: you know, to be hitting the ball well and pitching 2611 02:13:14,840 --> 02:13:17,640 Speaker 4: extremely well too. So I don't think they're going to 2612 02:13:17,680 --> 02:13:19,960 Speaker 4: be able to maintain it. But stranger things have happened. 2613 02:13:21,440 --> 02:13:23,840 Speaker 4: I just don't trust that pitching staff. I don't lie. 2614 02:13:25,440 --> 02:13:26,760 Speaker 3: Cubs nine and seven. 2615 02:13:29,240 --> 02:13:32,400 Speaker 4: I only trust it because I don't like the division 2616 02:13:32,440 --> 02:13:36,120 Speaker 4: as a whole. Somebody has to win the NL Central, 2617 02:13:36,840 --> 02:13:39,120 Speaker 4: so I kind of look at it at why not 2618 02:13:39,240 --> 02:13:43,680 Speaker 4: the Cubs, why not Milwaukee? But nobody screw You know, 2619 02:13:43,800 --> 02:13:45,880 Speaker 4: if Cincinnati were to make some sort of run, that 2620 02:13:45,920 --> 02:13:49,080 Speaker 4: wouldn't surprise me either. I think that. I think that 2621 02:13:49,160 --> 02:13:52,480 Speaker 4: division is a bit of a jumble mess outside of Pittsburgh. 2622 02:13:52,520 --> 02:13:53,600 Speaker 4: Who's the bottom feeder. 2623 02:13:53,880 --> 02:13:57,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it'd be better. Yeah, they will be sorry. 2624 02:13:58,120 --> 02:14:01,240 Speaker 3: I do believe in their line. I love Elie. 2625 02:14:01,560 --> 02:14:05,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, Ellie's amazing, and uh, you know, Hunter Green's coming 2626 02:14:05,640 --> 02:14:08,400 Speaker 4: into his own not walking as many guys and a 2627 02:14:08,480 --> 02:14:11,560 Speaker 4: striking out guys at a crazy clip. So it would 2628 02:14:11,600 --> 02:14:13,680 Speaker 4: not surprise me at all of Cincinnati. You know, it 2629 02:14:13,760 --> 02:14:14,720 Speaker 4: made a run at this. 2630 02:14:14,800 --> 02:14:22,400 Speaker 2: Thing, all right, the mL East Phillies eight and five, 2631 02:14:23,800 --> 02:14:24,960 Speaker 2: Mets nine and four. 2632 02:14:27,520 --> 02:14:30,160 Speaker 4: I trust the Phillies more than I trust the Mets. 2633 02:14:31,840 --> 02:14:33,320 Speaker 4: But I do think that's going to be a dog 2634 02:14:33,360 --> 02:14:35,640 Speaker 4: fight at the top of that division. Two and uh, 2635 02:14:36,160 --> 02:14:37,520 Speaker 4: lest we forget, and I know you were going to 2636 02:14:37,560 --> 02:14:40,760 Speaker 4: bring them up. The biggest outlier probably in the entire 2637 02:14:40,840 --> 02:14:44,360 Speaker 4: sport so far, the three in San Atlanta Braves. 2638 02:14:44,840 --> 02:14:45,280 Speaker 7: That was it? 2639 02:14:45,640 --> 02:14:46,320 Speaker 4: Was that real? 2640 02:14:47,000 --> 02:14:48,360 Speaker 3: Or is that a lie? 2641 02:14:49,280 --> 02:14:52,600 Speaker 4: I refuse to believe that that's real. They're too good, 2642 02:14:53,160 --> 02:14:55,160 Speaker 4: even without a cleaning in the lineup right now, they're 2643 02:14:55,200 --> 02:14:58,560 Speaker 4: too They're too good to be this bad. And I 2644 02:14:58,680 --> 02:15:01,400 Speaker 4: saw stat it was like no team has ever started 2645 02:15:01,520 --> 02:15:04,280 Speaker 4: Owen six and made the postseason. It's one hundred and 2646 02:15:04,360 --> 02:15:06,960 Speaker 4: sixty two games. Like you can overcome an OWEN six 2647 02:15:06,960 --> 02:15:08,880 Speaker 4: star to make the playoffs. I refuse to believe. On 2648 02:15:08,960 --> 02:15:13,520 Speaker 4: April twelfth, the Atlanta Braves will not be a playoff team. Now. 2649 02:15:13,600 --> 02:15:16,640 Speaker 4: Whether they win the Eastern Division, we'll see, But the 2650 02:15:16,720 --> 02:15:21,440 Speaker 4: Atlanta Braves, I'll do a Charles Barkley guarantee that they'll 2651 02:15:21,440 --> 02:15:23,360 Speaker 4: make the playoffs. They'll find their way into the postseason. 2652 02:15:23,400 --> 02:15:27,560 Speaker 4: They're too good not to. Isn't it wild? It really is. 2653 02:15:28,840 --> 02:15:31,640 Speaker 4: It's it's unreal that they can be this bad offensively 2654 02:15:31,680 --> 02:15:34,520 Speaker 4: considering the kind of talent that they have, and that 2655 02:15:35,080 --> 02:15:40,520 Speaker 4: they just can't score runs. I mean, they won a 2656 02:15:40,560 --> 02:15:41,560 Speaker 4: World Series without Akouon. 2657 02:15:42,280 --> 02:15:43,240 Speaker 3: They can't you know, make it. 2658 02:15:43,240 --> 02:15:45,600 Speaker 2: Through the you know, and they're gonna get Strider back 2659 02:15:45,680 --> 02:15:50,800 Speaker 2: to I mean, you know, it's pretty wild, right it is. 2660 02:15:52,000 --> 02:15:54,040 Speaker 4: But it's also it goes back to what we said 2661 02:15:54,080 --> 02:15:57,400 Speaker 4: before we started this. This exercise. You know, you can't 2662 02:15:57,440 --> 02:15:59,600 Speaker 4: get too excited about what happens the first part of 2663 02:15:59,600 --> 02:16:02,440 Speaker 4: the season. There's so much time left. You know, you 2664 02:16:02,520 --> 02:16:06,240 Speaker 4: don't want to dig yourself a hole. But it doesn't 2665 02:16:06,280 --> 02:16:08,040 Speaker 4: mean that you can get off to a terrible start 2666 02:16:08,080 --> 02:16:09,520 Speaker 4: at three and ten. But it doesn't mean that the 2667 02:16:09,600 --> 02:16:11,160 Speaker 4: season is over and it's time to pack it in, 2668 02:16:13,520 --> 02:16:14,560 Speaker 4: you know. You know, it's funny. 2669 02:16:16,040 --> 02:16:19,880 Speaker 2: We're in April and I would just a little exercise, 2670 02:16:21,160 --> 02:16:25,960 Speaker 2: and I'm thinking of myself truthfully, the next meaningful game 2671 02:16:26,120 --> 02:16:27,080 Speaker 2: in my town. 2672 02:16:29,080 --> 02:16:30,080 Speaker 4: Will be the Eagles. 2673 02:16:31,320 --> 02:16:31,520 Speaker 7: Wow. 2674 02:16:31,760 --> 02:16:34,400 Speaker 4: So is there just not a level of excitement for 2675 02:16:34,640 --> 02:16:36,080 Speaker 4: the Phillies or is it just too early? 2676 02:16:37,800 --> 02:16:41,920 Speaker 3: No, there was the Dodger Series people were into and 2677 02:16:42,040 --> 02:16:43,040 Speaker 3: youre's excitement for him? 2678 02:16:43,080 --> 02:16:45,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, because there they're a legit contender for sure. The 2679 02:16:45,560 --> 02:16:47,039 Speaker 4: teams in the l If you. 2680 02:16:47,080 --> 02:16:51,560 Speaker 2: Look at like baseballs, you just look at the next 2681 02:16:51,879 --> 02:16:56,960 Speaker 2: truly meaningful game because in baseball won't happen till October, 2682 02:16:57,040 --> 02:17:00,440 Speaker 2: like I think the Phillies will won the division. Yeah, uh, 2683 02:17:00,600 --> 02:17:03,600 Speaker 2: and then the most meaningful game won't happen to the playoffs, right, 2684 02:17:05,080 --> 02:17:10,920 Speaker 2: And so there's no sixers or no flyers playoffs and 2685 02:17:11,160 --> 02:17:14,360 Speaker 2: all people can talk about right now is the Super Bowl. 2686 02:17:16,200 --> 02:17:21,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, until until Week one when the defense starts. That's 2687 02:17:23,200 --> 02:17:24,680 Speaker 4: Are you still riding high off of the Super Bowl 2688 02:17:24,760 --> 02:17:26,280 Speaker 4: or if people already moved on and now they're looking 2689 02:17:26,280 --> 02:17:27,240 Speaker 4: forward to this next season. 2690 02:17:28,160 --> 02:17:29,600 Speaker 3: No, people love the Super Bowl. 2691 02:17:29,720 --> 02:17:30,120 Speaker 4: That's great. 2692 02:17:30,240 --> 02:17:34,240 Speaker 2: I love it during during the moment there there they are. 2693 02:17:35,959 --> 02:17:41,080 Speaker 2: I just want games. I don't want football. So we're 2694 02:17:41,160 --> 02:17:51,000 Speaker 2: doing some spring workouts, so I'm enjoying that. Yeah, along 2695 02:17:51,080 --> 02:17:55,800 Speaker 2: with baseball because we've had we've already had two tournaments. Okay, 2696 02:17:56,320 --> 02:18:01,440 Speaker 2: we're gonna get rained out today. Creates pretty nanty out 2697 02:18:01,480 --> 02:18:05,320 Speaker 2: this weekend. Yeah, yeah, all right, let's say quick to 2698 02:18:05,360 --> 02:18:07,520 Speaker 2: you know, the brain is going to join us. We'll 2699 02:18:07,560 --> 02:18:10,680 Speaker 2: take a look at sports from a betting standpoint, and 2700 02:18:10,800 --> 02:18:14,320 Speaker 2: then get back to some draft stuff where the fellas kfie, 2701 02:18:15,560 --> 02:18:16,240 Speaker 2: how's the baby. 2702 02:18:16,920 --> 02:18:18,720 Speaker 4: It's amazing. He'll be walking any day now. 2703 02:18:18,760 --> 02:18:22,920 Speaker 2: Aunt oh man, slow on us. Oh God, let's send 2704 02:18:22,959 --> 02:18:25,640 Speaker 2: me some pictures, would you? Oh yeah, for sure, absolutely, yeah. 2705 02:18:26,200 --> 02:18:29,680 Speaker 2: Kfigcauz Hango with you. 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All 2724 02:19:46,800 --> 02:19:49,560 Speaker 2: right now joining us to take a look at sports 2725 02:19:49,600 --> 02:19:50,840 Speaker 2: from betting standpoint. 2726 02:19:51,840 --> 02:19:57,160 Speaker 3: Let's go to our man, the brain. Good morning, Brain, 2727 02:19:57,959 --> 02:19:58,720 Speaker 3: Good morning buddy. 2728 02:19:58,760 --> 02:19:59,120 Speaker 7: How are you. 2729 02:20:01,160 --> 02:20:01,400 Speaker 4: Good. 2730 02:20:01,480 --> 02:20:06,760 Speaker 2: We're getting shocked with rain, you know, but it's actually 2731 02:20:06,800 --> 02:20:11,520 Speaker 2: an Augusta, it's not so let's take a look at 2732 02:20:11,600 --> 02:20:13,440 Speaker 2: augusta moving day. 2733 02:20:13,640 --> 02:20:16,760 Speaker 3: Brain. How are you looking at this tournament? 2734 02:20:16,920 --> 02:20:17,200 Speaker 4: Shape? 2735 02:20:17,200 --> 02:20:19,320 Speaker 3: It up to be nice with the big boys up top. 2736 02:20:20,720 --> 02:20:24,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, looks and look, it's probably always my favorite tournament. 2737 02:20:24,920 --> 02:20:28,080 Speaker 7: I do love the Masters. Look at so many potential 2738 02:20:28,160 --> 02:20:31,240 Speaker 7: great storylines, right, you know, Rory find to get that 2739 02:20:31,400 --> 02:20:35,920 Speaker 7: elusive tournament win for him that he's been so close 2740 02:20:36,000 --> 02:20:38,920 Speaker 7: to many times. Has me able to do it? Threenty 2741 02:20:39,000 --> 02:20:42,720 Speaker 7: round one he was just playing so great and he 2742 02:20:42,800 --> 02:20:45,440 Speaker 7: gets the two double bogies in a row yesterday, just 2743 02:20:45,480 --> 02:20:48,600 Speaker 7: a beautiful round. He's only two shots back. Justin Rose, 2744 02:20:49,240 --> 02:20:53,320 Speaker 7: steely grady veteran. Probably don't think he's gonna hang on, 2745 02:20:53,600 --> 02:20:55,920 Speaker 7: you know. Look, you get him around eight point odds 2746 02:20:55,959 --> 02:20:59,000 Speaker 7: to one tournament if you think he can no inders 2747 02:20:59,080 --> 02:21:01,480 Speaker 7: in that for me, I think for an older player 2748 02:21:01,520 --> 02:21:04,400 Speaker 7: to hold on for two rounds, just don't see that 2749 02:21:04,640 --> 02:21:10,840 Speaker 7: the cards. Look, the question is at Rory's time, it's 2750 02:21:10,840 --> 02:21:12,720 Speaker 7: a good chance to anyone. But again that's the leader work. 2751 02:21:12,920 --> 02:21:15,039 Speaker 7: A lot of people can win, right, I mean day 2752 02:21:15,080 --> 02:21:18,560 Speaker 7: Shambo certainly has a good chance. Corey Connor's good ball 2753 02:21:18,640 --> 02:21:21,320 Speaker 7: striker as a shot, and then of course Scotti Scheffler 2754 02:21:21,800 --> 02:21:23,800 Speaker 7: is right there as well too. You can never count 2755 02:21:23,879 --> 02:21:26,600 Speaker 7: him out. He's only three shots back. I'm just looking 2756 02:21:26,640 --> 02:21:28,600 Speaker 7: forward to watching. In terms of picking winner, these things 2757 02:21:28,600 --> 02:21:31,200 Speaker 7: are so hard, and I always say Anthony, picking a 2758 02:21:31,240 --> 02:21:35,000 Speaker 7: winner in the tournaments is hard. I did Rory to 2759 02:21:35,040 --> 02:21:36,120 Speaker 7: come in the top ten, so I don't have to 2760 02:21:36,160 --> 02:21:39,440 Speaker 7: deal with any you know, I thought he was gonna 2761 02:21:39,440 --> 02:21:42,240 Speaker 7: have a good tournament top ten, I'm gonna be I'll 2762 02:21:42,280 --> 02:21:45,440 Speaker 7: be safe, hopefully. But if he has to pick a winner, 2763 02:21:45,440 --> 02:21:47,080 Speaker 7: but I just had to pick someone, I would pick Rory. 2764 02:21:48,320 --> 02:21:50,360 Speaker 7: I think he's playing really well in control of this game, 2765 02:21:50,440 --> 02:21:53,720 Speaker 7: and he seems it seems that maybe like this is 2766 02:21:53,840 --> 02:21:56,520 Speaker 7: just his time, so to speak, just to put the 2767 02:21:56,640 --> 02:21:59,320 Speaker 7: demons to bed, so to speak. But that being said, 2768 02:21:59,480 --> 02:22:02,120 Speaker 7: DoD during any particular golfer where it's so hard to 2769 02:22:02,120 --> 02:22:03,280 Speaker 7: win this tournament, is. 2770 02:22:03,280 --> 02:22:05,920 Speaker 4: There anybody on the outside brad of the top you know, 2771 02:22:06,040 --> 02:22:07,840 Speaker 4: three four that you think maybe able to make a 2772 02:22:07,920 --> 02:22:10,120 Speaker 4: surge and make it interesting, whether it's a Jason Day 2773 02:22:10,200 --> 02:22:12,400 Speaker 4: or a Matsuyama or Morikawa who are kind of like 2774 02:22:12,520 --> 02:22:14,040 Speaker 4: five six strokes back at this point. 2775 02:22:14,840 --> 02:22:17,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, Listen, the great thing about August is again with 2776 02:22:18,120 --> 02:22:20,800 Speaker 7: you know thirteen and fifteen, this those are potential always 2777 02:22:21,440 --> 02:22:25,520 Speaker 7: eagle holes, right, always potential egle holes and maybe you know, 2778 02:22:25,800 --> 02:22:29,640 Speaker 7: just maybe you get you know, lucky and they can 2779 02:22:30,040 --> 02:22:33,880 Speaker 7: somehow do something like that. I mean, look, I certainly 2780 02:22:33,920 --> 02:22:35,920 Speaker 7: know a problem taking a shot with someone like that, 2781 02:22:36,240 --> 02:22:38,120 Speaker 7: but Charl Hatton, you can get around point to one. 2782 02:22:38,200 --> 02:22:40,120 Speaker 7: I mean he's only three shots back. And this is 2783 02:22:40,640 --> 02:22:43,400 Speaker 7: a guy that is, in my opinion, a world class 2784 02:22:43,480 --> 02:22:48,240 Speaker 7: golfer that certainly has its chance and again only three 2785 02:22:48,320 --> 02:22:53,440 Speaker 7: shots back. Nothing crazy. Victor Hoblin's a guy always. Victor 2786 02:22:53,480 --> 02:22:55,640 Speaker 7: Hobbin's always been a guy. What I like about Victor 2787 02:22:55,680 --> 02:22:58,720 Speaker 7: Hoblin guys, He's a guy to me that can always 2788 02:22:58,720 --> 02:23:01,800 Speaker 7: shoot crazy low. He's closer to thirty to one area. 2789 02:23:01,840 --> 02:23:04,040 Speaker 7: You know, he's four shots back, But that's the kind 2790 02:23:04,080 --> 02:23:06,120 Speaker 7: of guy to me. He's think to say, justin Thomas, 2791 02:23:06,160 --> 02:23:07,440 Speaker 7: that kind of way where he could pull out like 2792 02:23:07,480 --> 02:23:11,800 Speaker 7: a sixty three sixty two, maybe more easier than some 2793 02:23:11,840 --> 02:23:14,840 Speaker 7: of the other golfers can. And maybe he has some 2794 02:23:15,000 --> 02:23:16,800 Speaker 7: more variants to him, which in the end, if you're 2795 02:23:16,800 --> 02:23:19,240 Speaker 7: looking for a long shot, you're looking for variants. That's 2796 02:23:19,280 --> 02:23:21,040 Speaker 7: the guy I think always has a really low round 2797 02:23:21,080 --> 02:23:21,320 Speaker 7: in him. 2798 02:23:22,959 --> 02:23:23,920 Speaker 3: Wow, that's interesting. 2799 02:23:25,840 --> 02:23:29,039 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean he's a player. Look when you're looking 2800 02:23:29,120 --> 02:23:31,640 Speaker 7: first you're not looking for someone consistent. But if you're 2801 02:23:31,640 --> 02:23:33,120 Speaker 7: looking for a third to one shot, you're looking for 2802 02:23:33,160 --> 02:23:37,640 Speaker 7: a guy that maybe you know, not just goes seventy 2803 02:23:37,720 --> 02:23:39,400 Speaker 7: one to seventy sixty. Now you're looking for a guy 2804 02:23:39,440 --> 02:23:42,400 Speaker 7: that he can get a sixty three sixty four. And 2805 02:23:42,480 --> 02:23:44,440 Speaker 7: to me, he's one of those kind of players that 2806 02:23:44,560 --> 02:23:46,520 Speaker 7: has the ability to have one of those you know, 2807 02:23:46,680 --> 02:23:49,280 Speaker 7: eight under kind of rounds than he does. He could 2808 02:23:49,440 --> 02:23:51,840 Speaker 7: easily be winning the tournament after this round, let alone 2809 02:23:51,879 --> 02:23:53,320 Speaker 7: having to win it after two. Right, he could get 2810 02:23:53,360 --> 02:23:54,200 Speaker 7: there just in one round. 2811 02:23:54,840 --> 02:23:57,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, is your eddie? 2812 02:23:57,760 --> 02:23:59,680 Speaker 2: Do you look at you know, would you look at 2813 02:23:59,720 --> 02:24:02,720 Speaker 2: the the tour like to try to do top five, 2814 02:24:02,840 --> 02:24:04,080 Speaker 2: top ten, top twenties. 2815 02:24:05,600 --> 02:24:07,920 Speaker 7: I mean yeah, I mean listen, yeah, I mean I 2816 02:24:08,000 --> 02:24:12,840 Speaker 7: always prefer Now it's funny for me again, I used 2817 02:24:12,879 --> 02:24:16,320 Speaker 7: to golf was the one so it was quote unquote 2818 02:24:16,360 --> 02:24:17,880 Speaker 7: hole in my game. And what I mean by that 2819 02:24:18,080 --> 02:24:20,680 Speaker 7: is I loved betting golf so much. It was the 2820 02:24:20,840 --> 02:24:23,240 Speaker 7: one thing I allowed myself to do that wasn't ev 2821 02:24:23,440 --> 02:24:26,440 Speaker 7: plus expected value. It's the only leak I had. And 2822 02:24:26,440 --> 02:24:28,840 Speaker 7: because I would always try to chase that, these Dac 2823 02:24:28,920 --> 02:24:32,360 Speaker 7: Nadal winning the picking the winner the holding golf tournaments, guys, 2824 02:24:32,480 --> 02:24:35,040 Speaker 7: And what I mean by hold is when you bet 2825 02:24:35,080 --> 02:24:37,400 Speaker 7: a football game, right, you're laying minus one ten on 2826 02:24:37,440 --> 02:24:41,160 Speaker 7: both sides. Beholds a little over. You know you've fifty 2827 02:24:41,200 --> 02:24:42,920 Speaker 7: two point three percent to break even the hold. It's 2828 02:24:42,920 --> 02:24:46,760 Speaker 7: a little over four percent or whatnot. It's nothing. It's 2829 02:24:46,840 --> 02:24:50,840 Speaker 7: not a crazy hardhold to beat the holding golf. The 2830 02:24:50,959 --> 02:24:54,520 Speaker 7: holding golf is usually around forty percent, which means for 2831 02:24:54,640 --> 02:24:57,520 Speaker 7: everything about this, for every dollar the sportsbooks take in, 2832 02:24:57,879 --> 02:24:59,840 Speaker 7: they're paying back sixty cents. I need to really think 2833 02:24:59,840 --> 02:25:02,680 Speaker 7: of about that. When you really think about that, no 2834 02:25:02,800 --> 02:25:05,160 Speaker 7: one can beat that in the universe. It's impossible. I'm 2835 02:25:05,160 --> 02:25:07,920 Speaker 7: talking about picking the winners. Okay, so I realized, what 2836 02:25:08,040 --> 02:25:11,080 Speaker 7: am I trying to do? Chasing? No, it's fun, I 2837 02:25:11,200 --> 02:25:14,120 Speaker 7: get it. It's fun. Right, So because it's fun, well, 2838 02:25:14,320 --> 02:25:17,720 Speaker 7: if I'm doing professionally, it became an expensive hobby. I 2839 02:25:17,800 --> 02:25:21,959 Speaker 7: stopped doing. But picking top ten's top five head ted 2840 02:25:22,080 --> 02:25:26,920 Speaker 7: matchups that the hold is very very reasonable, Okay, much 2841 02:25:27,000 --> 02:25:29,640 Speaker 7: more reasonable at least then, because a lot of times 2842 02:25:29,680 --> 02:25:32,280 Speaker 7: it's a yes no market. There's no yes no market 2843 02:25:32,360 --> 02:25:34,800 Speaker 7: in the winners. It's just a yes they're holding so 2844 02:25:34,959 --> 02:25:37,760 Speaker 7: much of a hold again, they're doing it. Guys, every 2845 02:25:37,760 --> 02:25:40,640 Speaker 7: one listening. Just have fun. Sure you want about ten 2846 02:25:40,680 --> 02:25:43,520 Speaker 7: bucks twenty nothing that's going to kill you, no problem 2847 02:25:43,520 --> 02:25:45,720 Speaker 7: with it. But if you're betting real big money on that, 2848 02:25:46,040 --> 02:25:47,640 Speaker 7: I don't care who you are, you're not going to win. 2849 02:25:48,240 --> 02:25:49,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's interesting. 2850 02:25:50,080 --> 02:25:52,680 Speaker 7: Just keeping it real, just keeping no No, I got you, 2851 02:25:53,160 --> 02:25:53,600 Speaker 7: all right. 2852 02:25:54,000 --> 02:25:57,760 Speaker 3: Fig, let's turn our attention here. All right, you're ready? 2853 02:25:58,080 --> 02:25:59,280 Speaker 3: I got fron of me. 2854 02:25:59,400 --> 02:26:05,360 Speaker 4: The wins totals lovely. You know, I wanted to pivot here. 2855 02:26:05,440 --> 02:26:10,560 Speaker 4: This is excellent, great minds, Anthony, Oh good, good room. 2856 02:26:13,000 --> 02:26:14,760 Speaker 4: Why was a joke? 2857 02:26:15,080 --> 02:26:21,160 Speaker 7: Great minds? I love I'm joking with him. He knows that. 2858 02:26:22,720 --> 02:26:27,160 Speaker 3: All right, you ready? Fig? Had you start off? 2859 02:26:28,240 --> 02:26:30,879 Speaker 4: Well, I was gonna take it because it's really sort 2860 02:26:30,920 --> 02:26:33,920 Speaker 4: of it's encapsulated around the NFL Draft to a certain degree. 2861 02:26:33,959 --> 02:26:35,920 Speaker 4: And so I look at a team like say Pittsburgh 2862 02:26:36,520 --> 02:26:38,520 Speaker 4: right now, I'm looking at their win total being eight 2863 02:26:38,560 --> 02:26:40,760 Speaker 4: and a half going into the season. They don't have 2864 02:26:40,840 --> 02:26:44,160 Speaker 4: a quarterback. So is their quarterback going to be Aaron Rodgers? 2865 02:26:44,800 --> 02:26:46,680 Speaker 4: Is it going to be someone they trade for? Maybe 2866 02:26:46,680 --> 02:26:48,600 Speaker 4: they could potentially trade for Kirk Cousins, or is it 2867 02:26:48,640 --> 02:26:51,160 Speaker 4: gonna be somebody that they draft at eight and a 2868 02:26:51,200 --> 02:26:54,480 Speaker 4: half over under at this point in time, not knowing 2869 02:26:54,560 --> 02:26:57,039 Speaker 4: what the quarterback position is going to be for the Steelers, 2870 02:26:57,800 --> 02:26:59,520 Speaker 4: what would you do in that situation? How do you 2871 02:26:59,560 --> 02:27:01,240 Speaker 4: feel those odds are for them at this point? 2872 02:27:01,840 --> 02:27:04,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, great questions. It's funny like for me and it's 2873 02:27:04,920 --> 02:27:08,240 Speaker 7: it's I think the market believes they're going to get 2874 02:27:08,280 --> 02:27:11,440 Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers. Okay, I believe that's being pricing because if 2875 02:27:11,440 --> 02:27:13,760 Speaker 7: they don't get a quarterback that eight and a half, 2876 02:27:14,200 --> 02:27:15,880 Speaker 7: If they get Aaron Rodgers, it's not going to go 2877 02:27:15,920 --> 02:27:17,160 Speaker 7: to nine and a half. It's going to stay at 2878 02:27:17,160 --> 02:27:19,040 Speaker 7: eight and a half. It's gonna it's not going to 2879 02:27:19,120 --> 02:27:23,160 Speaker 7: move up now if they have to stick with Meason 2880 02:27:23,240 --> 02:27:26,520 Speaker 7: Rudolph or whatever they're going to have in there or whatnot, 2881 02:27:27,080 --> 02:27:29,920 Speaker 7: it's clearly going to go down at least a game. Okay. 2882 02:27:30,560 --> 02:27:34,480 Speaker 7: So to me again, I'm not playing it because even 2883 02:27:34,480 --> 02:27:37,240 Speaker 7: if they get Rogers, I know Tomlin wins nine games 2884 02:27:37,280 --> 02:27:40,400 Speaker 7: every single year. I get it, death taxis Tomlin wins 2885 02:27:40,440 --> 02:27:43,600 Speaker 7: his nine games, But it's a pass for me. Again, 2886 02:27:43,640 --> 02:27:46,840 Speaker 7: I bet like six or seven seventh season win totals, 2887 02:27:46,920 --> 02:27:49,080 Speaker 7: that's not one of the seven I bet. For me, 2888 02:27:49,160 --> 02:27:52,440 Speaker 7: it's just a layoff because the uncertainty quarterback to me again, 2889 02:27:52,480 --> 02:27:54,920 Speaker 7: I'd rather not bet on something I don't have enough 2890 02:27:54,959 --> 02:27:56,840 Speaker 7: certainty on, and even if they were to get Rogers 2891 02:27:57,360 --> 02:27:59,240 Speaker 7: still wouldn't even like it, guys, To be honest with you, 2892 02:27:59,280 --> 02:28:00,600 Speaker 7: either way, I think it's the right number. 2893 02:28:00,920 --> 02:28:02,800 Speaker 3: How many How many overs did you bet? 2894 02:28:05,640 --> 02:28:09,200 Speaker 7: One to two hundreds? One, two and two, three and two, 2895 02:28:09,400 --> 02:28:12,280 Speaker 7: four and two, five and two, five and three six three? 2896 02:28:13,360 --> 02:28:13,600 Speaker 4: I did? 2897 02:28:13,640 --> 02:28:16,200 Speaker 7: Actually I bet ten things so far, ten that one 2898 02:28:16,280 --> 02:28:18,320 Speaker 7: I thought six overs, four unders. 2899 02:28:18,879 --> 02:28:19,720 Speaker 4: Six overs. 2900 02:28:19,840 --> 02:28:23,480 Speaker 3: I'll tell you one of your overs is the Chargers. 2901 02:28:24,760 --> 02:28:27,240 Speaker 7: Did not bet the Chargers over, did not bet they're 2902 02:28:27,320 --> 02:28:28,880 Speaker 7: under either. I bet them to win the division, though, 2903 02:28:29,840 --> 02:28:32,640 Speaker 7: and they I'm long the Chargers nine and a half. 2904 02:28:32,920 --> 02:28:36,800 Speaker 7: You can get juice to the over. Also, Guys, what 2905 02:28:36,840 --> 02:28:38,520 Speaker 7: I'm doing these sometimes I'm ticking off. I think it 2906 02:28:38,520 --> 02:28:41,200 Speaker 7: is a bad number, is me as much as anything else. 2907 02:28:41,560 --> 02:28:45,280 Speaker 7: The Chargers I lean over, I lean over. Look. They 2908 02:28:45,360 --> 02:28:48,720 Speaker 7: have the recipe right, good quarterback, good coach. And that's 2909 02:28:48,920 --> 02:28:52,440 Speaker 7: a recipe that usually no guarantee, guys, but usually is 2910 02:28:52,480 --> 02:28:55,000 Speaker 7: a recipe that leads to success. I do think the 2911 02:28:55,120 --> 02:28:57,240 Speaker 7: Chargers get the ten wins. Didn't bet it because I 2912 02:28:57,240 --> 02:28:59,520 Speaker 7: don't want to bet over nine and a half. That's 2913 02:28:59,600 --> 02:29:01,680 Speaker 7: just a little too rich for me. Usually eight and 2914 02:29:01,720 --> 02:29:04,920 Speaker 7: half the highest on over one of that usually, although 2915 02:29:05,280 --> 02:29:08,920 Speaker 7: some exceptions. I did take over Detroit last year, but 2916 02:29:09,360 --> 02:29:11,440 Speaker 7: it's usually a big number like that. I'm looking to 2917 02:29:11,480 --> 02:29:14,080 Speaker 7: go to the unders. But I do think the Chargers 2918 02:29:14,120 --> 02:29:15,480 Speaker 7: do get home. But it's not what I bet. 2919 02:29:15,800 --> 02:29:19,840 Speaker 4: What about San Francisco lost some guys traded de ball away. 2920 02:29:19,920 --> 02:29:21,880 Speaker 4: They're kind of aging out a little bit. Still have 2921 02:29:22,000 --> 02:29:24,040 Speaker 4: to extend brock party. I'm looking at ten and a 2922 02:29:24,080 --> 02:29:26,480 Speaker 4: half for San Francisco. What do you think about that number? 2923 02:29:26,520 --> 02:29:28,120 Speaker 4: Did you bet that number over under? 2924 02:29:28,920 --> 02:29:30,800 Speaker 7: I did bet that. I bet the under. Now here's 2925 02:29:30,840 --> 02:29:33,120 Speaker 7: the thing, guys, if you look at their schedule, if 2926 02:29:33,120 --> 02:29:35,520 Speaker 7: you want to pull up their schedule, you're literally going 2927 02:29:35,600 --> 02:29:38,560 Speaker 7: to think that Kyle Shanahan made up the schedule. Okay, 2928 02:29:38,760 --> 02:29:40,600 Speaker 7: You're only going to say to yourself this, this can't be. 2929 02:29:40,920 --> 02:29:44,160 Speaker 7: This is the easiest schedule created on God's green Earth? 2930 02:29:44,280 --> 02:29:49,520 Speaker 7: Was this schedule? I still took the under? Why because 2931 02:29:49,640 --> 02:29:54,560 Speaker 7: despite having an incredibly easy schedule it's kind of why 2932 02:29:54,560 --> 02:29:57,200 Speaker 7: I took the Falcons under ten and a half last year. 2933 02:29:57,640 --> 02:29:59,320 Speaker 7: I didn't think the team was that great, and I 2934 02:29:59,440 --> 02:30:01,560 Speaker 7: thought that from the schedule. I don't think the forty 2935 02:30:01,640 --> 02:30:05,320 Speaker 7: nine ers teams that great. I like the quarterback outside 2936 02:30:05,360 --> 02:30:07,800 Speaker 7: of the quarterback who I like. I don't trust Pcastro 2937 02:30:07,840 --> 02:30:09,840 Speaker 7: his helf going forward in his career. I hope he 2938 02:30:09,879 --> 02:30:11,400 Speaker 7: doesn't go to Joe Ow and beat her out. I 2939 02:30:11,520 --> 02:30:13,520 Speaker 7: really hope so. But I wouldn't be shocked if he 2940 02:30:13,640 --> 02:30:18,119 Speaker 7: did to me. I just think that team is very 2941 02:30:18,240 --> 02:30:20,600 Speaker 7: overrated in what people they saw the Super Bowl team 2942 02:30:20,600 --> 02:30:22,960 Speaker 7: from two years ago. I think that's still lingering in 2943 02:30:23,000 --> 02:30:25,440 Speaker 7: people's minds. I think this is a below average team. 2944 02:30:25,640 --> 02:30:27,040 Speaker 7: So if they're a below average team, I don't think 2945 02:30:27,040 --> 02:30:29,080 Speaker 7: they're going eleven and six despite an easy schedule. 2946 02:30:30,720 --> 02:30:34,400 Speaker 3: All right, give me, give me the ones that you played. 2947 02:30:34,160 --> 02:30:37,800 Speaker 7: Then get malty, buddy. Here's here we go. I'll try 2948 02:30:37,800 --> 02:30:39,640 Speaker 7: to you know unders. I got to did four unders. 2949 02:30:39,680 --> 02:30:42,160 Speaker 7: I did them under ten and a half. The other 2950 02:30:42,280 --> 02:30:45,240 Speaker 7: unders I did were if he don't don't hang up 2951 02:30:45,280 --> 02:30:47,080 Speaker 7: with me. I took the Eagles under eleven and a half. 2952 02:30:49,120 --> 02:30:49,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it. 2953 02:30:50,080 --> 02:30:52,680 Speaker 2: I mean it's it's hard, and they they're replacing a 2954 02:30:52,720 --> 02:30:53,920 Speaker 2: lot of guts vicious. 2955 02:30:54,120 --> 02:30:55,080 Speaker 7: Did you see their schedule? 2956 02:30:55,360 --> 02:30:55,560 Speaker 3: Yes? 2957 02:30:55,720 --> 02:30:59,760 Speaker 7: I did, Yeah, vicious, absolutely vicious. It's hard to go 2958 02:31:00,400 --> 02:31:03,120 Speaker 7: five and they lost a lot of things in free agency. 2959 02:31:04,240 --> 02:31:06,520 Speaker 7: As it's hard. It's not easy to win twelve games NFL. 2960 02:31:07,080 --> 02:31:09,320 Speaker 7: It flips up and down every year. I thought the 2961 02:31:09,360 --> 02:31:12,080 Speaker 7: number should be in ten and a half. I took 2962 02:31:12,240 --> 02:31:15,000 Speaker 7: Seattle Seahawks under eight and a half. I think it's 2963 02:31:15,040 --> 02:31:18,560 Speaker 7: team downgraded. I think it's team downgraded. I do. I 2964 02:31:18,600 --> 02:31:20,360 Speaker 7: don't think they're gonna be as good this year as 2965 02:31:20,400 --> 02:31:23,560 Speaker 7: they were last year. Their total last year open seven 2966 02:31:23,560 --> 02:31:25,920 Speaker 7: a half. I think they won. I think they won nine. 2967 02:31:26,200 --> 02:31:28,480 Speaker 7: Maybe we maybe Eve won ten with Gino, But I 2968 02:31:28,520 --> 02:31:30,320 Speaker 7: don't think they're gonna have a winning record this year. 2969 02:31:30,480 --> 02:31:33,560 Speaker 7: I do not like what they've done. I don't like 2970 02:31:33,640 --> 02:31:36,120 Speaker 7: losing Metcalf or Cup. I think that's a severe downgrade. 2971 02:31:36,560 --> 02:31:38,600 Speaker 7: And I think Gino Smith or Sam Donold's going to 2972 02:31:38,600 --> 02:31:41,360 Speaker 7: be a downgrade as well. The other unders I had, 2973 02:31:41,400 --> 02:31:44,560 Speaker 7: I had one other under, oh, Buffalo Bills twelve and 2974 02:31:44,560 --> 02:31:46,920 Speaker 7: a half. Now, I did this because most of the 2975 02:31:47,000 --> 02:31:49,920 Speaker 7: market had eleven and a half. I found in one 2976 02:31:49,920 --> 02:31:51,640 Speaker 7: place at twelve and a half, and I thought that 2977 02:31:51,800 --> 02:31:53,440 Speaker 7: was just too high. I think the numbers should be 2978 02:31:53,480 --> 02:31:55,360 Speaker 7: eleven and a half. You can get twelve and a half. 2979 02:31:55,400 --> 02:31:58,720 Speaker 7: I think it does narrow to play. In terms of overs. 2980 02:31:59,720 --> 02:32:02,240 Speaker 7: My favorite bet on the card, the juice has moved 2981 02:32:02,280 --> 02:32:04,280 Speaker 7: a lot, but it was my favorite bet. I took 2982 02:32:04,320 --> 02:32:07,600 Speaker 7: the Vikings over eight and a half wins getting juiced 2983 02:32:07,600 --> 02:32:10,520 Speaker 7: Ayre now laying pretty significant juice and over. The Vikings 2984 02:32:10,560 --> 02:32:13,200 Speaker 7: are probably my favorite team this year in terms of 2985 02:32:13,320 --> 02:32:16,200 Speaker 7: what the market thinks of them versus my expectations. I 2986 02:32:16,280 --> 02:32:19,240 Speaker 7: think without the quarterback, they're arguably the most talented team 2987 02:32:19,240 --> 02:32:21,520 Speaker 7: in the NFL. Yeah, I don't. I honestly believe that. 2988 02:32:21,680 --> 02:32:24,240 Speaker 7: I think there may be the forgetting quarterback, which. 2989 02:32:24,120 --> 02:32:26,959 Speaker 4: Is a huge if I get it last year too. 2990 02:32:27,959 --> 02:32:32,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, they won fourteen games. They want fourteen, that's my point. Yeah, 2991 02:32:33,200 --> 02:32:35,640 Speaker 7: and they have a coach. It seems like, Anthony, it 2992 02:32:35,720 --> 02:32:37,600 Speaker 7: seems like you could stick me and you out there 2993 02:32:38,000 --> 02:32:41,440 Speaker 7: when I'm watching Joshua Dobbs and who's the guy the 2994 02:32:41,560 --> 02:32:44,280 Speaker 7: guy who Nick Mollens throw for five hundred yards a 2995 02:32:44,320 --> 02:32:47,000 Speaker 7: game with this coach? And then and sam Donold who 2996 02:32:47,080 --> 02:32:51,320 Speaker 7: was stung for everyone be a borderline MVP candidate. I'm 2997 02:32:51,360 --> 02:32:53,080 Speaker 7: just gonna take my chance to say, win nine games 2998 02:32:53,120 --> 02:32:56,240 Speaker 7: in a very, very tough division still even at current numbers. 2999 02:32:56,440 --> 02:32:59,200 Speaker 7: Broncos over eight and a half again, numbers should have 3000 02:32:59,240 --> 02:33:01,320 Speaker 7: been nine and a half, and since moved to nine 3001 02:33:01,320 --> 02:33:03,000 Speaker 7: and a half. I knew that number would moved to 3002 02:33:03,040 --> 02:33:04,680 Speaker 7: nine and a half, so I betted over eight and 3003 02:33:04,720 --> 02:33:09,840 Speaker 7: a half again. Great coach, good Yeah, quarterbacks, Hey, we're. 3004 02:33:09,800 --> 02:33:12,000 Speaker 3: Up against it. You want to give us real quick 3005 02:33:12,040 --> 02:33:13,600 Speaker 3: and then what kind of plays you got today? 3006 02:33:14,200 --> 02:33:14,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? 3007 02:33:14,400 --> 02:33:17,680 Speaker 7: I apologize, Yeah, I talked quickly, Okay, real quick, guys. 3008 02:33:17,920 --> 02:33:22,360 Speaker 7: Baseball Philly Sanchez over five and a half strikeouts plus 3009 02:33:22,440 --> 02:33:25,280 Speaker 7: one twenty seven and three is last ten, averaging seven 3010 02:33:25,360 --> 02:33:29,400 Speaker 7: dig uptick in velocity. Francis of Toronto over three and 3011 02:33:29,400 --> 02:33:31,080 Speaker 7: a half days laying a dollar sixty ten and one 3012 02:33:31,160 --> 02:33:34,360 Speaker 7: is last six, averaging six a game. Miles Michelos over 3013 02:33:35,360 --> 02:33:37,640 Speaker 7: five and a half hits. He's forty four and forty 3014 02:33:37,720 --> 02:33:40,600 Speaker 7: one got over the last two years. Martin Press my 3015 02:33:40,640 --> 02:33:42,160 Speaker 7: favorite bet of the day over four and a half 3016 02:33:42,240 --> 02:33:45,560 Speaker 7: hits eighteen to eight last year, sixteen to four of 3017 02:33:45,560 --> 02:33:48,080 Speaker 7: the year before, so he's thirty two and ten in 3018 02:33:48,120 --> 02:33:50,240 Speaker 7: the last two years, over four and a half. It's 3019 02:33:50,240 --> 02:33:51,840 Speaker 7: against the Red Sox Jay two of the games. Who 3020 02:33:51,920 --> 02:33:55,160 Speaker 7: cares like the Royals plus the dollars twenty today over 3021 02:33:55,240 --> 02:33:57,680 Speaker 7: Cleveland fifty to fifty game and I like the Red 3022 02:33:57,720 --> 02:33:59,680 Speaker 7: Sox laying less than a dollar fifty over the White Sox. 3023 02:34:00,000 --> 02:34:02,040 Speaker 7: Fox worst team League, take my chances. 3024 02:34:02,840 --> 02:34:05,440 Speaker 2: There you go, my brother. Listen, have a great day. 3025 02:34:05,520 --> 02:34:09,240 Speaker 2: Good luck to you. Buddy, enjoyed that weekend, Thanks Bret. 3026 02:34:09,440 --> 02:34:09,520 Speaker 8: Oh. 3027 02:34:09,560 --> 02:34:11,440 Speaker 7: By the way, Fits, I have the Raiders over six 3028 02:34:11,480 --> 02:34:13,240 Speaker 7: and a half as well. Let's go that is well, 3029 02:34:13,520 --> 02:34:14,519 Speaker 7: there you go, buddy. 3030 02:34:16,240 --> 02:34:16,960 Speaker 4: The Raiders over. 3031 02:34:17,120 --> 02:34:17,840 Speaker 3: Figgy loves that. 3032 02:34:18,000 --> 02:34:18,480 Speaker 4: I'll take it. 3033 02:34:18,560 --> 02:34:19,400 Speaker 3: Figgy loves that. 3034 02:34:21,520 --> 02:34:23,960 Speaker 2: You too, Buddy. Take care of brother. All right, we'll 3035 02:34:24,000 --> 02:34:27,320 Speaker 2: come back and wrap it up. Kevin Figures, Anthony Gargano 3036 02:34:27,959 --> 02:34:33,120 Speaker 2: Fellas on Fox. Ah, the Fellas ending it. That's it, 3037 02:34:34,160 --> 02:34:36,960 Speaker 2: my man, Mighty Mark. That's his song at the end 3038 02:34:37,000 --> 02:34:40,760 Speaker 2: of every show. Don't forget for the best pregame show 3039 02:34:40,840 --> 02:34:43,960 Speaker 2: every weekend, be shoot. Be sure to tune into Fox 3040 02:34:44,000 --> 02:34:48,480 Speaker 2: Sports Radios Countdown presented by Ben MGM every Saturday and 3041 02:34:48,640 --> 02:34:53,439 Speaker 2: Sunday nine am the noon Eastern six to nine Pacific, 3042 02:34:53,600 --> 02:34:56,240 Speaker 2: we will count you down to all the biggest games. 3043 02:34:56,680 --> 02:34:59,959 Speaker 2: Tune into Countdown presented by Ben and GM every Saturday 3044 02:35:00,160 --> 02:35:02,680 Speaker 2: Sunday morning right here on Fox Sports Radio the Heart 3045 02:35:02,800 --> 02:35:03,320 Speaker 2: Radio app. 3046 02:35:04,000 --> 02:35:04,760 Speaker 3: Will you watch you? 3047 02:35:04,920 --> 02:35:05,200 Speaker 4: Dude? 3048 02:35:05,440 --> 02:35:07,160 Speaker 3: What's what's your what do you do? 3049 02:35:07,360 --> 02:35:07,400 Speaker 5: Like? 3050 02:35:07,480 --> 02:35:12,279 Speaker 2: They got the dear little boys. God bless him. He's adorable. 3051 02:35:12,600 --> 02:35:15,160 Speaker 3: Thank you. Bro put a disposition too. He looks like 3052 02:35:15,240 --> 02:35:15,720 Speaker 3: you can see it. 3053 02:35:16,080 --> 02:35:18,960 Speaker 4: Oh, he's amazing. He's the happiest baby you'll ever meet. 3054 02:35:19,440 --> 02:35:21,520 Speaker 4: Almost never when he when he cries, you know there's 3055 02:35:21,560 --> 02:35:26,200 Speaker 4: something really wrong because, uh, he just has the greatest, 3056 02:35:26,360 --> 02:35:30,560 Speaker 4: sweetest demeanor, makes friends with everybody, flirts with every woman 3057 02:35:30,640 --> 02:35:35,160 Speaker 4: that he sees. So he's uh, he's he's amazing to 3058 02:35:35,200 --> 02:35:36,360 Speaker 4: be around. He really is. 3059 02:35:36,920 --> 02:35:41,400 Speaker 2: That's cool, man. Yeah, God, that's awesome. So so what 3060 02:35:41,480 --> 02:35:42,760 Speaker 2: do you got on the tap for the weekend? 3061 02:35:43,920 --> 02:35:45,720 Speaker 4: Oh? Well, run some marriages. We just got back in town. 3062 02:35:45,760 --> 02:35:47,120 Speaker 4: As a matter of fact. As a matter of fact, 3063 02:35:47,120 --> 02:35:49,240 Speaker 4: my family and I, he and my wife and I 3064 02:35:49,360 --> 02:35:52,840 Speaker 4: were in Chicago Mark's Neck of the Woods earlier this 3065 02:35:52,959 --> 02:35:55,360 Speaker 4: week for my wife's a teacher. She was on spring break, 3066 02:35:55,440 --> 02:35:58,400 Speaker 4: so we got to take in Shy Town in the frigid, 3067 02:35:58,440 --> 02:36:01,080 Speaker 4: cold temperatures of thirty eight grease, which for me, being 3068 02:36:01,120 --> 02:36:03,080 Speaker 4: a West Coast softy, might as well be you know, 3069 02:36:03,160 --> 02:36:07,080 Speaker 4: the frozen tundra, you know. So, but that was a 3070 02:36:07,160 --> 02:36:10,520 Speaker 4: fun experience with snow thirty eight for you, Anthony. I'm 3071 02:36:10,520 --> 02:36:12,560 Speaker 4: sure you're wearing you know, shorts outside. 3072 02:36:12,240 --> 02:36:12,320 Speaker 5: So. 3073 02:36:14,000 --> 02:36:17,360 Speaker 4: You know, I hate thirty eight degrees, but I feel you. Yeah. 3074 02:36:17,640 --> 02:36:20,320 Speaker 4: And we went to the Cubs Padres game on Saturday, 3075 02:36:20,520 --> 02:36:23,000 Speaker 4: and we lasted maybe about four four in the third 3076 02:36:23,040 --> 02:36:24,480 Speaker 4: innings when you say, let's get the hell up out 3077 02:36:24,480 --> 02:36:26,360 Speaker 4: of here, I'm freezing my tail off. I can't feel 3078 02:36:26,680 --> 02:36:31,160 Speaker 4: like to market to baseball and freezing cold weather. I guess, yeah. 3079 02:36:31,160 --> 02:36:33,080 Speaker 4: And you know it rigally is like you know, it's 3080 02:36:33,120 --> 02:36:34,600 Speaker 4: right off of the lakes, so you know, you have 3081 02:36:34,720 --> 02:36:37,440 Speaker 4: the wind blowing in. I used to cover the Cubs, yeah, 3082 02:36:37,520 --> 02:36:39,960 Speaker 4: so you know. Yeah, so but it was fun. It 3083 02:36:40,040 --> 02:36:41,960 Speaker 4: was a fun atmosphere overall. We all had a good time. 3084 02:36:42,080 --> 02:36:44,160 Speaker 4: So so this weekend we're just gonna chill for the 3085 02:36:44,240 --> 02:36:46,760 Speaker 4: most part, just chill back, recover, run a couple of errands, 3086 02:36:47,840 --> 02:36:49,480 Speaker 4: you know, go to the store, that sort of thing. 3087 02:36:51,080 --> 02:36:52,920 Speaker 4: That's pretty much it. And taking taking some of the 3088 02:36:52,959 --> 02:36:54,320 Speaker 4: masters when I get it, when I get a free 3089 02:36:54,320 --> 02:36:55,280 Speaker 4: minute here for sure. 3090 02:36:55,360 --> 02:36:59,320 Speaker 2: Nice yeah, nice watch any shows. There is a great 3091 02:36:59,440 --> 02:37:03,040 Speaker 2: show this I have to tell you. We watched it 3092 02:37:03,280 --> 02:37:05,680 Speaker 2: last night that Seth Rogan the studio. 3093 02:37:06,160 --> 02:37:07,000 Speaker 3: No I know of it. 3094 02:37:07,080 --> 02:37:08,040 Speaker 4: I've seen a previews. 3095 02:37:09,000 --> 02:37:11,280 Speaker 3: It's great. It's it's really good. 3096 02:37:11,879 --> 02:37:14,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, we jumped on late. I know it's a couple 3097 02:37:14,440 --> 02:37:17,000 Speaker 4: of years late now, but we started watching Severance. 3098 02:37:17,320 --> 02:37:20,480 Speaker 2: And really good because the new season. Yeah yeah, so 3099 02:37:20,760 --> 02:37:24,039 Speaker 2: I've not seen that. We're We're not We're the two 3100 02:37:24,120 --> 02:37:25,440 Speaker 2: on the two were watching? 3101 02:37:25,720 --> 02:37:25,880 Speaker 7: Is that? 3102 02:37:26,280 --> 02:37:30,240 Speaker 3: And I love Mobland with Tom Hardy. 3103 02:37:30,800 --> 02:37:32,080 Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know if I'm aware of that one. 3104 02:37:32,240 --> 02:37:37,040 Speaker 2: That's when Paramount plus it's a it's a British gangster series. Okay, 3105 02:37:38,040 --> 02:37:44,080 Speaker 2: Tom Hardy perfectly, he's the best, Like she's incredible and 3106 02:37:44,480 --> 02:37:49,000 Speaker 2: uh this this is uh, this series is is awesome. 3107 02:37:49,240 --> 02:37:50,840 Speaker 3: It's really good. It's called Mobland. 3108 02:37:51,080 --> 02:37:53,360 Speaker 4: Mobland, all right, Well to check that one out. Severn 3109 02:37:53,480 --> 02:37:56,080 Speaker 4: is good. It started starts out really slow, but it 3110 02:37:56,480 --> 02:37:59,080 Speaker 4: really does suck yeat. People love it. Yeah, it's really good. 3111 02:37:59,840 --> 02:38:02,040 Speaker 3: He they just love it. 3112 02:38:02,480 --> 02:38:04,880 Speaker 4: I wasn't sure what to expect initially, but uh, you know, 3113 02:38:04,920 --> 02:38:06,600 Speaker 4: it got such rave reviews, and I think it came 3114 02:38:06,600 --> 02:38:08,200 Speaker 4: out like three years ago, so it's you know, you 3115 02:38:08,280 --> 02:38:11,440 Speaker 4: mentioned there's a new season coming, but like I said, 3116 02:38:11,440 --> 02:38:12,800 Speaker 4: it's a bit of a slow start, but if you 3117 02:38:12,800 --> 02:38:15,160 Speaker 4: can stick with the first episode or two, it'll really second. 3118 02:38:15,360 --> 02:38:18,600 Speaker 4: So seventh is one I would definitely definitely recommend. Yeah, 3119 02:38:19,160 --> 02:38:20,560 Speaker 4: that's Apple plus Apple TV. 3120 02:38:21,080 --> 02:38:23,960 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, Oh, Apples get some good stuff. They 3121 02:38:24,040 --> 02:38:25,080 Speaker 3: do well. 3122 02:38:25,440 --> 02:38:29,760 Speaker 2: It's going to be uh, it's listened that NBA ends tomorrow, 3123 02:38:30,680 --> 02:38:32,360 Speaker 2: so we'll have the playoffs. 3124 02:38:32,720 --> 02:38:34,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll have to play in this week. 3125 02:38:34,480 --> 02:38:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, play in and then the playoffs start, and 3126 02:38:38,040 --> 02:38:42,360 Speaker 2: then the NHL same thing. The playoffs start next week, 3127 02:38:43,480 --> 02:38:45,480 Speaker 2: and then it's the old draft all the time. 3128 02:38:45,640 --> 02:38:48,840 Speaker 4: That's right where draft is creeping up on us. I know, 3129 02:38:50,120 --> 02:38:52,080 Speaker 4: I know. It's the best time of year except for 3130 02:38:52,120 --> 02:38:53,480 Speaker 4: when football is actually being played. 3131 02:38:53,480 --> 02:38:58,800 Speaker 2: You know, exactly exactly. I'll be watching spring game Man 3132 02:39:00,120 --> 02:39:01,600 Speaker 2: State spring games is gonna be right. 3133 02:39:01,959 --> 02:39:03,920 Speaker 4: We are in the season of spring games, which, by 3134 02:39:03,959 --> 02:39:07,400 Speaker 4: the way, the transfer portal is also open. Yes, had 3135 02:39:07,480 --> 02:39:10,200 Speaker 4: fun with that. College sports, college football. 3136 02:39:10,360 --> 02:39:14,320 Speaker 2: I'm probably the best. Thanks for haggling with us today. Everybody, 3137 02:39:14,400 --> 02:39:16,840 Speaker 2: have a great day. We love you, See you next week.