1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We're gonna jump right 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: into it because we've got we really are backed up 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: every which way with really important news, and we're gonna 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: start with Steve Gregory from KFI News. They're calling it 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: a road rage driver Byron Burkhardt. He fired his gun 7 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: while driving and murdered a four year old boy. Poor 8 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: boy was shot dead in his parents car. And this 9 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: is another George Gascone abomination because it looks like Burkehart 10 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: had been arrested recently and got out very quickly. All 11 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: the details, Steve Gregory, Let's go back to Friday night. 12 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: Last Friday night on Sierra Highway when this happened. The 13 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: parents of this boy were headed to a grocery store. 14 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: They were going to do their grocery shopping, and apparently, 15 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: according to reports, Burkehart had been driving aggressively and somehow 16 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: got into this sort of situation where he cut off 17 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: the family car, and then the family car, the driver, 18 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: the mom, and the dad. They got off the main 19 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: road and got into the surface streets and this guy 20 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: just kept following him in hassling them and eventually pulled 21 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: up alongside of him and opened fire, shooting eight times 22 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: into the car. Miraculously, the mom and dad were not hit. 23 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: The boy was only hit once, but it was a 24 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: fatal strike, so they rushed him to the hospital. Burke 25 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: Hart takes off in the car and he had his 26 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: girlfriend with him. But I'm told that the family vehicle 27 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: had a like a dash cam inside, so they were 28 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: able to get a photo of the license plate. So 29 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: when they called the police, in this case, the Sheriff's department, 30 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: they were able to enter that license plate information into 31 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: the new license plate reader technology that they've got up there, 32 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: and it was a license plate reader that found this car, 33 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: and they were able to locate Burkhart and where he 34 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: was at. And when they got to his home, they 35 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: found out that he was had just gotten off of 36 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: probation or he was on probation for a carjacking incident 37 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: about a month ago. So when they get to his house, 38 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: they find multiple weapons in his home already he's got 39 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: a hell of a wrap sheet on him. Let me 40 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: interrupt you for a second because I forgot to mention 41 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: we're on Instagram live right now, so if you want 42 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: to see Steve tell the story in all his glory, 43 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: in all his glory. No, all right, So this guy 44 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: had a carjacking charge that he was on probation for. Yeah, 45 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: and the carjacking was from when well I don't know 46 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: the date of the carjacking, but I know that at 47 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: least a month ago he was on probation. Okay. So 48 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: he's off the probation and they find all these gun 49 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: guns in his house. Would that be a violation of probation? Yeah, 50 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: you know what that would be. And besides that, a 51 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: convicted felon, a convicted short weapon. I guess nobody checked 52 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: on that. So the so they find the guy, and 53 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: they interview the guy and the girl, and they end 54 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: up charging the guy with multiple crimes. They let the 55 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: girl go. The girlfriend no charges against her. So the 56 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: DA's office announced yesterday they were filing one count of murder, 57 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: two counts of attempted murder that would be for the parents, 58 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: one count of shooting in an occupied vehicle, five counts 59 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: of possession of a firearm by a felon. Okay, So 60 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: those are the charges that Burkhart's facing. He's right now 61 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: in jail on a little over five million dollar bail. 62 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: Here's yeah, go ahead, No, it's going to say. But 63 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: here's an interesting clincher. It was brought to my attention 64 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: that there were there was at least one enhancement that 65 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: could have been filed against Burkhart on this that could have, 66 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: if he was convicted, guaranteed him being in prison for 67 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: life without the possibility of parole. But the enhancement was 68 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:02,559 Speaker 1: not filed for this, for this murder. This murder, it's 69 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: very similar to the enhancement that was filed against the 70 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: shooter of Deputy Clinkenbrmmer remember that case. Yes, well, they 71 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: put the enhancement on that because it was the commission 72 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: that was basically shooting from one vehicle to another vehicle, 73 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: all in motion. That's an enhancement, And they didn't file 74 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: it on this one any reason given no one's been 75 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: given answers investigators. I'm told it was made brought to 76 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: my attention by people that have knowledge of the case. 77 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: But I was told investigators were given no answers, given 78 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: no reason why. But there's no enhancement on this. So 79 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: in theory, John, in theory, if this guy were to 80 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: be convicted of all the charges on paper, he could 81 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: get life in prison, sure, but that could be with 82 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: the possibility of parole. Rex Paris, the Lancaster mayor, told 83 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: Channel five that burke Hart was in custody a week 84 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: ago for a gun related felony and they let him 85 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,559 Speaker 1: go because of the new bail laws. That's not true. 86 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: That's not true. That's not true. And I got it 87 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: both from the DA's office and from people in the 88 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: sheriff's department, and they said that it's not true. And 89 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: then they are not clear how that started. I think 90 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,119 Speaker 1: the confusion was is that he had been in jail. 91 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: He was on probation for gun related charges. It was 92 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: a carjacking, So I think that somehow along the way, 93 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: someone got their wires crossed. But I've been assured both 94 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: by the DA's office and by the Sheriff's department that 95 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: that's not the right. And we don't know how much 96 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: jail time he got for the carjacking. No, but he 97 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: was on probation. I mean, so he either way, you know. 98 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: And what's the protocol on probation. Are they supposed to 99 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: go to your home and make sure you don't have 100 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: a stockpile of weapons. They are subject to random search absolutely, 101 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: but you're also you are also subject as the pro 102 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: lead or subject being checking in and then you go, 103 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: you answer your questions and you're supposed to be telling 104 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: the truth. Do anything further about a rap sheet on him? 105 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: Because no, we're just starting to dig in. This can't 106 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: be the only two incidents record. I was told, quote, 107 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: he has one hell of a lengthy rap sheet, That's 108 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: what I was told. And he kills a four year 109 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: old boy at it. Well, and then here's the thing, 110 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: eight shots he fires eight times into that car. He's 111 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,679 Speaker 1: really unhinged. Family car. Take me back to the beginning. 112 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: Do we know what Burkhardt thought the parents did? I asked, 113 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: I asked very specifically, did the family I keep saying 114 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: the family car? Did the father who was driving? Did 115 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: he provoke Burkhard There was no evidence there was any 116 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: provocation on the part of the parents, unintentionally none. You know, 117 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: cut a guy off in a lane, or you never know, 118 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: or maybe you hint over here one way or the other. 119 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: But apparently this guy's not talking. There's no information coming 120 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: out about that. They are operating on this being a 121 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: road rage attack. That's what they're operating now. I just 122 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: did there's just no information about what triggered the rage. No, 123 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: and it could have been anything. I mean, yeah, I 124 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: mean who knows, I mean, really, who knows? When you 125 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: opened fire eight times into another vehicle like that is 126 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: a lot of bullets for what. Well, and then then 127 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: there was initial report that he might have been a 128 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: gang hit of some kind. I'm thinking, okay, how do 129 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: you confuse a man and woman in four year old 130 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: boy in the car for gang gang members? But that 131 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: was initial reports. There were initial reports that both the 132 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: man and the woman in the car were gang members. 133 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: Where's all this coming from? All these false reports? It 134 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: turns out it's pretty straightforward. I mean, this guy's unhinged, 135 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: he thinks the father did something to piss him off 136 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: while driving, and just unloads eight bullets. It's just weird 137 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: how so many of these stories have like competing, well 138 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: the narratives. I hate that word, but I know, but 139 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: when you've got to you know, when you have the 140 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: mayor of a town stand up there and start saying things, 141 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: you presumably have to believe the words coming out of 142 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: his mouth. But we don't know where he got that 143 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: information from, because when I was trying to figure it out. 144 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: No one knew how he came to the conclusion that 145 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: this guy was let out on the zero bail policy, right, 146 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: because that was there was no evidence because he was 147 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: already in the system before the zero bail policy went 148 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: into effect. Okay, so the definitely was a car jackie. 149 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: He was on probation. He should not have had weapons, 150 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: but he gave five weapons and one he was carrying 151 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: with him in the car and the father's driving something 152 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: does something that pisss this guy off, and he shoots 153 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: eight bullets into the car and kills the kid. Yeah, 154 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: but more interestingly is if this guy's convicted, which you know, 155 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: it looks like they've got some pretty good evidence here. 156 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: But I'm wondering why the dai's office is not going 157 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: to file the enhancement so that he's at least in 158 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: prison without the chance of parole. Absolutely should happen, and 159 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: I think in any other world it would, but we 160 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: were living a gascon world. But no one's been able 161 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: to answer the question. Has anybody asked it besides you? Yeah, 162 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: I've been told that the Sheriff's department has asked. I've 163 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: been told investigator's vest I'm being told that politicians are 164 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: going to probably start getting involved in this too, because 165 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: they're like, wait a minute, we need to make sure 166 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: this guy never gets out of there. And this is 167 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: a normal enhancement for a crime like this. Yeah, okay, 168 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: this is not something exotic, especially with this guy's record, 169 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: especially you're killing a four year old. Well remember the 170 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: blue I mean, there certainly should be an enhancement to 171 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: lock him up for good. Remember Gascon made a huge 172 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: overture and big deal about him placing the enhancement on 173 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: the shooter, the alleged shooter of Clinkin Brumer at that 174 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: press conference his because his family was standing there. He 175 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: made a huge overture about all these enhancements he's doing, 176 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: all these charges he's filing. And then you know when 177 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: he said he wouldn't go for the death penalty, that 178 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: was the thing that sort of pissed off the fat 179 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: But so the enhancement has been used by the DA's 180 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: office before. It's a little baffling as to why they're 181 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: not using it now. Almost every day there's a gas 182 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: Cone story that baffles normal people. All Right, Steve, if 183 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: you learn anything else, you got come in seats always 184 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: warmed for you. Oh, I appreciate it. Thanks. This was 185 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: on Instagram Live and I guess this is going to 186 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: remain accessible if anybody wants to see it sooner or later. 187 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: All Right, it's the John Cobalts Show. 188 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM six. 189 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: Forty here from one until four and then after four 190 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: o'clock John Covelts on demand on the iHeart app as well. 191 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: We just finished with Steve Gregory. Nice story really gets 192 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: to you. A four year old boy and it's a 193 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: few days before Christmas and it's George Gascone again again. 194 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: How much bloodshed a little kid? The hell was this 195 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: guy doing out if he's just joining us. We were 196 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: talking about what happened on Friday up in Lancaster Byron Burkhart, 197 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: who's got a long record. He and his girlfriend are 198 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: driving around and Burkehart got angry with a family. It 199 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: was driving on the road. The dad was behind the wheel, 200 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: mom was in the car, and this little boy was 201 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: in the car as well. His name was Gore Gore 202 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: Adam Yen that's how you pronounce it. And the family 203 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: was cut off by this monster Byron Burkhart seven thirty. 204 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: They were just going to the grocery store, and he 205 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: started chasing them through the surface streets, then pulled up 206 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: alongside and fired eight times. The driver cut them, I 207 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: mean Burkhart cut them off. So if he's intentionally cutting 208 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: them off, intentionally chasing them through the streets, there is 209 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: some real premeditation going on here, and so I cannot 210 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: understand why an enhancement was not added by George Gascon 211 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: to Burkhart's charges so that when he gets convicted, he 212 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: can go to jail for the rest of his life. 213 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: You murder a four year old out of the blue, 214 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: you should get life in prison at the very least. 215 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he should be executed. You ought to be 216 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: executed as soon as he's convicted, because he This is heartbreaking. 217 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: A family friend named Miguel Carnado acted as a spokesman 218 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: or actually Cornado's with a group called Agents of Change. 219 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: The mother is Mary adam Yan, the father is Levon Tatucian. 220 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: They weren't hurt, but Gore got hit in the torso 221 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: his last words were mom, I'm hurt. And he died 222 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: on Friday night, and Coronado said Gore was just a happy, 223 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: regular little boy. He loved trucks, stuffed animals, a very 224 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: upbeat child who loved his mom and dad, loved his family. 225 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: Kid just wanted to go to the grocery store. Gascone 226 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: cannot explain or won't explain why he got arrested in 227 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: February and November of last year, and his girlfriend gentile. 228 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: They let her go, but she has three previous arrests 229 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: since the start to twenty twenty two. So these two 230 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: have been arrested five times in the last two years. 231 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: No explanation as to what they were arrested for. Did 232 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: they get charged, tried, convicted of anything, But in Trudge 233 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: Gascon it's in anything goes world. It doesn't matter what 234 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: you've done. It's just amazing. I mean the mayhem and 235 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: the tragedy, the bloodshed that Gascone is directly involved with. 236 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he should be on trial for some of 237 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: these crimes because he had the power to keep these 238 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: people in prison, and it was his decisions, his policies 239 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: that allow a guy like Byron Burkhardt on the street. 240 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: You know what Burkehart's last post thing on Facebook was 241 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: this is the day of the shooting. This is how 242 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: I guess he starts his day hated by many, wanted 243 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: by plenty, disliked by some, confronted by none. Well, isn't 244 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: he the man? He is the big man, right, because 245 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: he's got a bunch of weapons which should have been 246 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: confiscated if the probation department was doing its job. That's 247 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: another agency there. How does a guy who's just been 248 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: let out of jail on a carjacking charge, how does 249 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: he have five weapons in his house and one weapon 250 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: on him? Anybody do their job? Anybody awake or if 251 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: they all give it up? 252 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 3: Two? 253 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: That's just crazy. Hated by many, wanted by plenty. Yeah, uh, 254 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if he's a wanted criminal, because we 255 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: don't prosecute those guys anymore. Coronado, the family spokesman, says, 256 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: he's a historical criminal. He's a domestic terrorist. That's what 257 00:14:53,200 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: he is. That's just you know, and it's what scares 258 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: people to death driving on the road, because you don't 259 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: know if you've inadvertently offended someone on the road just 260 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: by changing lanes or trying to turn at an intersection, or. 261 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 4: Giving somebody a dirty look because they've done something wrong. 262 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get involuntarily dirty look It's like get surprised 263 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: by somebody cutting you off and you give them a look. 264 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: And I'm always thinking about that. I mean, I bet 265 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: you you shake your fist. 266 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 4: Oh I do, and I do give the dirty looks. 267 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 4: But I control myself because there are so many psychos 268 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 4: on the road and. 269 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: I am scared. You better duck. 270 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 4: I sit there and and I look at people, and 271 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 4: I go, Okay, I wonder if you have a gun. 272 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 4: Do you have a gun, do you have a knife? 273 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: Are you going to come after me? 274 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 4: I mean, because I told you many many, many many 275 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 4: years ago, somebody did make me stop in the middle 276 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 4: of the street and came over to me and said, 277 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 4: girls like you get killed for stuff like this because 278 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 4: I flipped them off when I was a teenager. So 279 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 4: I'm careful. But I do give looks and then they 280 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 4: honk at me and they give me a dirty look. 281 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 4: They're the ones that are in the wrong. But you know, 282 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 4: these people that are doing these things, we're not. 283 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: We're not dealing with rational No, they should be in prison. 284 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: You're dealing with with with prisoners. You're felons, violent people, 285 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: So no, they're not going to give you a and 286 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: and they're not going to believe. 287 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 4: That they did anything wrong, but that they broke any rules. 288 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: It's all our fault. Go flipping people off. It's hard. 289 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 4: It's hard to control oneself on the roads. 290 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: Unless you're gonna arm yourself. 291 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 4: And you're you never know what I may have in 292 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 4: my car. 293 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: All right, we come back, Oh we got we got 294 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: my friend Michelle Shane coming on. Uh, We're gonna find 295 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: out what he thinks of this news. It's certainly getting 296 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: a lot of play, but I'm always very skeptical. You 297 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: know about the four Pepperdine girls who got to mowed 298 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: down a couple of months ago. Uh, and and it 299 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: restarted the whole debate over doing something about Pacific Coast Highway. 300 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: They've had fifty eight people killed on PCH since twenty ten. 301 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: One of them was Michelle Shane's daughter, and Michelle has 302 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: since become an activist, and he has even produced a 303 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: movie on PCH. Now Caltrans is saying they're going to 304 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: spend four million dollars. They have a list of thirty 305 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: upgrades to make it a safer highway? Is this real? 306 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: Talk to Michelle and see what he thinks. 307 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 2: Coming up, you're listening to John cobelts on demand from 308 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 2: KFI AM six forty. 309 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: On the air one until four after four o'clock John 310 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: Cobelt on Demand the podcast you could listen to what 311 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: you missed, also on the iHeart app and coming up 312 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: after two o'clock. If you are confused why Donald Trump 313 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: has been kicked off the ballot in Colorado, you are 314 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: not alone. There's a lot of people, some who like Trump, 315 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: some who don't are shaking their head. They just don't 316 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: understand what's going on here. How could Donald Trump, who 317 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: has not been charged, tried, convicted, sentenced for insurrection be 318 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: kicked off the ballot in Colorado because of insurrection. We're 319 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: going to talk with Josh Blackman. He's a professor of 320 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: law and Centennial Chair of Constitutional Law South Texas College, 321 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: and we're going to talk to him because some of 322 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: his writings made it into the dissent from the judges 323 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: in this case, because it was four to three the 324 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: Colorado Supreme Court said Trump is off the ballot. Well, 325 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: among the three descents included an analysis by Josh Blackman, 326 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: So we figured he'd be the best guy to explain 327 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: what's going on and why this is absurd. I'm starting 328 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: starting to believe in conspiracy theories. I'm starting to go 329 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: for the deep state stuff. Now we're going to seriously 330 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: I'd be I could see if he was he was 331 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: charged and tried and convicted, maybe fair game, but not 332 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: didn't happy. Even the prosecution in Washington, d c. About 333 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 1: the insurrection does not accuse Trump of having anything to 334 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 1: do with it. We'll get all those details coming up. 335 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: Michael Shane Michelle Shane rather is my friend. He's also 336 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: an activist in Malibu, and he has been trying to 337 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: get the state to do something about Pacific Coast Highway 338 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: for well for over ten years, ever since his daughter 339 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: Emily was killed by a crazy driver. And we've talked 340 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: about that case a lot over the years. Now, after 341 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: the four Pepperdine women were mowed down, the four students 342 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: brought it back into the spotlight again. There's been a 343 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: lot of criticism of Caltran's They claim they have a 344 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: four million dollar project thirty improvements to make things safer 345 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: and better. I read this stuff and because it's coming 346 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: from our government, I never trusted. I don't know what 347 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: to believe. I wanted to see Michelle thinks of it, 348 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: so we're going to get him on here. Michelle Shane, 349 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: welcome back. 350 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 5: Hey, thanks, John, really appreciate it. 351 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 1: Give us the name of your movie again too. 352 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 5: Twenty one miles in Malibu. Not very not very original, 353 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 5: and very much to the point. Yeah, we talk about Malibu. 354 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: It's a great film. It's a documentary of what's wrong 355 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: with pch there and you're getting a lot of awards. Yeah, 356 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: you win a lot of awards at film festivals for it. 357 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: And if there's any way that people can see it, 358 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: you should go see it because it's really well done. 359 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: All right, So this is four point two million dollars 360 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: thirty upgrades. I don't know how much you've had to 361 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: look into the details. What was your first reaction. 362 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, it's all good in the sense 363 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 5: that it has brought attention to it. The powers that 364 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 5: be are trying to make things happen. I know Senator 365 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 5: Allen and Conger assembly Person Irwin and Supervisor Horrorback are 366 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 5: deep into it and are very passionate about trying to 367 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 5: do something. So that's really amazing. Caltrans is Caltrans. I mean, 368 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 5: they are the dinosaur, they are the beast. 369 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: You know. 370 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 5: I will tell you now and I'll sit on your 371 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 5: shove that they are going to do nothing for the 372 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 5: speed because of the way they measure things has to 373 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 5: be the eighty fifth percentile, it has to be all 374 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 5: sorts of things. They're using archaic measures to figure out 375 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 5: if they should lower speeds. So on my soapbox, they 376 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 5: got to go in and do a long term design 377 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 5: change and fix the road. But with the four point 378 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 5: two million that they said they're going to spend coming up, 379 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 5: that's great, but it's really lobo fruit. I mean it's 380 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 5: ground level. A lot of it is talked, that's been 381 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 5: around for a long time. I mean they're making a 382 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 5: big deal about synchronizing the lights seven years that have 383 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 5: been talking about that. That just puts us seven years 384 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 5: and has been an ongoing discussion. 385 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: If I read that right, they're going to be able 386 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: to pick up speeding drivers and turn the light red 387 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: to stop them. And if you're driving a normal speed, 388 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: you're much more likely to get a green light. 389 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 5: Correct And you know obviously that all changes. When PCH 390 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 5: is congestion, I mean you got to take it into 391 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 5: what it really is. There's fifteen million people that come 392 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 5: to visit Malibu per year now think about. That's larger 393 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 5: than a lot of a lot of cities come through 394 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 5: this area, and they haven't done anything from the fifties 395 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 5: except now they're making a big deal about this. They've 396 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 5: said they're going to put optical speed bars, which is great, 397 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:19,959 Speaker 5: thirteen speed safety feedback signs in hand striping to warn drivers, 398 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 5: painting the speed limit signs, refreshing the signs. But my 399 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 5: big question is this, how many lives does that say? 400 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 5: Do you know what it breaks down to for the 401 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 5: amount of mileage, it's less than two hundred thousand dollars 402 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 5: a mile. It costs over one hundred thousand dollars for 403 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 5: them to put crosswalks, stripes on pch. 404 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: What what is an optical speed bar. It's they're supposed 405 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: to be at ten locations. 406 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 5: It's supposed to make you go slower. It's supposed to 407 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 5: give the sense that you're going faster than you're going, 408 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 5: so psychologically it makes you slow down. 409 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: And what are they is that paint? Is that some 410 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: kind of structure. I just I don't know what it is. 411 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 5: I think I think it's a paint, something with paint, 412 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 5: But to be honest, I don't know. John, Yeah, it's 413 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 5: just I've been paying this for a long time. 414 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: The difficulties. These news stories have all these jargon y 415 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,239 Speaker 1: terms that normal people don't know. So you look at 416 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: it and it's like, well does that help? What is it? As? 417 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: There's this, you know, more more window dressing. There's also 418 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: a thirty four million dollar project. I guess that's being 419 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: done locally. Is that the city of Malibu or the county? 420 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: I get the county, uh from measure art. And the 421 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: thing about this is the project was approved seven years ago, 422 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: seven years ago, but it's been bogged down by state reviewers. 423 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 3: Right. 424 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 5: What gets me is, you know what happened with the 425 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 5: ten Right, it's like, oh my god, we got to 426 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 5: get in there, and we got to it's going to 427 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 5: take six weeks. It's going to be horrible. No one's 428 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 5: going to be able to get anywheres. 429 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: And then it was. 430 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 5: Six six weeks, and then it was you know, a 431 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 5: couple of weeks, and then they did it in five days, 432 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 5: which shows you if there's a will, there's a way. 433 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 5: If it's really really important, there's a way. And I 434 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 5: gotta ask and ask it all the time. What's the 435 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 5: measure for a human life when you read about someone dying, 436 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 5: you flip the page or you change your screen or whatever. 437 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 5: But when you live with the fact that someone you 438 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 5: loved is gone, that's there's no moving on or getting 439 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 5: over with it. You've got to figure out how to 440 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 5: move forward. 441 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: Well, I guess there's no way to predict. We're going 442 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: to see where we are, you know, a year from now. 443 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's hope not at the same place. If I 444 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 5: have anything to say do with it. And my very 445 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 5: loud mouth, no. 446 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: We won't be all right. Well, when you need to 447 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: amplify your odd mouth, just to give me a call anytime. 448 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 5: Thanks so much. I really appreciate it. Merry Christmas to you. 449 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: And Mary Christmas your audience. All right, thanks Michelle. Michelle Shane, 450 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: who's daughter Emily was killed by a crazy guy in 451 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: pch thirteen years ago. Now as hard to believe that 452 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: much time has passed and he's been fighting p. Twenty 453 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: one miles in Malibus's film, And much of this is 454 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: just Caltrane's refusing to do anything. If you see the film, 455 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: and I've read other stories about this, their attitude is, Hey, 456 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: we got to keep the traffic moving, so that's what 457 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: we're doing. And maybe they're under a lot of pressure 458 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: from a lot of people who just want to keep 459 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: the traffic moving because traffic is difficult enough. And like 460 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: he said, if it doesn't happen to you, it's just 461 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: another story that's too tragic to read for very long 462 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: to look at. But there's been a lot of people 463 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: in the Malibu area who've suffered a lot of loss, 464 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: such as the families of those four girls who got 465 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: mowed down in front of Pepperdine. All Right, we come back. 466 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: Anybody hungry always? You like salads? Right? I love salad? 467 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: How about a fresh Kamala Harris word salad? 468 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 3: Is it vegan? 469 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: I don't think this one's vegan, Debora all right, that's next, 470 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: And then after two o'clock, we're going to talk to 471 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: a law professor who's going to try to explain why 472 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is being kicked off the ballot in Colorado 473 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: for insurrection when he was never charged with insurrection. 474 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 2: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 475 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 2: six forty. 476 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: On Instagram. It's at John Cobelt Radio. Coming up after 477 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: two o'clock, we're going to talk with a law professor 478 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: who actually some of his writings were used by the 479 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 1: dissenting judges in this Trump case in Colorado. At the moment, 480 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: Trump is off the ballot in Colorado to run for president. 481 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: Colorado Supreme Court voted four to three claiming he committed 482 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: insurrection and that disqualifies him under the Constitution. There's this 483 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: one nagging thing, and we're going to talk with our 484 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: guest about it, is how can you be kicked off 485 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: the ballot for insurrection when he was never charged with 486 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: insurrection or tried or convicted. I don't understand. So we're 487 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: going to talk with Josh Blackman. He's a professor of 488 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: law and he's a constitutional expert at South Texas College. 489 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: All Right, a lot of intense news this hour. Occasionally 490 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: we take a comedy break, and that's what Kambel Harris 491 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: is for. Kamila Harris was on one of those progressive 492 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: nut job shows on MSNBC, The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell. 493 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: This is one of the shows that only the elderly 494 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: people unable to get out of their beds at nursing 495 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: homes watch. But hey, it's a living for the eye. 496 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: So he gets Kamala Harrison here. She if you can 497 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: follow what she's saying. It's something about the Trump and 498 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: the election. 499 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 3: You know, every election cycle we talk about this is 500 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 3: the most election of our lifetime, Lawrence. This one is, 501 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 3: This one is we are literally talking about people who 502 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 3: are attempting to divide our country in the most crude, 503 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 3: frankly and profound way. We are talking about those who 504 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 3: are intent and purposeful to attack fundamental freedoms. Be it 505 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 3: the freedom to make a decision about your own body, 506 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 3: the freedom to love who you love openly and with pride, 507 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: the freedom to be free from fear of violence and hate, 508 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 3: the freedom to just be, the freedom. 509 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: To just be, the freedom to just be. 510 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 3: This is the most election of our lifetime. 511 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: This is the most election of our lifetime. I guess 512 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: he's sitting there nodding along. The freedom to just be, 513 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: the freedom to be. That's what the election is over, 514 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: the freedom to be. So her side is trying to 515 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: get Trump kicked off the ballance he doesn't have the 516 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: freedom to be, and now they're claiming a crime that 517 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: he was never charged for. Right that sounds very democratic. Right, 518 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: that sounds like no threat to democracy. There the freedom 519 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: to just be. Just let people vote for who they 520 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: want to vote for all right, you don't like the guy, 521 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: don't vote for him. 522 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 3: This is the most election of our lifetime. 523 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: Now, Joe Biden, or what's left of Joe Biden. We 524 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: talked about a few minutes ago about pH and Malibu 525 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: and how the state is going to spend four million 526 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: dollars and we'll see if it's just on cosmetic improvements 527 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: to make it safer, its real stuff. There's also a 528 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: thirty four million dollar project, not four million, thirty four 529 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: million in Malibu that was put together seven years ago 530 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: and they still haven't started yet because the various state 531 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: agencies have been reviewing it for seven years. And Joe Biden, 532 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: at the age of eighty one, has just figured out 533 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: that government doesn't work and they don't do anything productive. 534 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: He of course is angry that his poll numbers stink. 535 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: He passed an infrastructure bill on paper, spending enormous amounts 536 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: of money to rebuild the infrastructure of the US, and unfortunately, 537 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: hardly any of the projects have even started, let a 538 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: loan been completed. And at the age of eighty one, 539 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: after over fifty years in government, he's just figuring out 540 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: now that nobody in government does their job, and they 541 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: don't upgrade roads, they don't upgrade bridges, they don't upgrade anything. 542 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: Just money is spent, nothing is done. For example, high 543 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: speed rail here in California, fifteen years, billions of dollars, 544 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: nothing laid down. I'm going to read you a clip 545 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: from CNN. Joe Biden has flashed impatience to his senior advisors. 546 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: They're trying to change public opinion on his economic record. 547 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: He's expressing deep frustration that he can't show off physical 548 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: construction of many projects that the legislation is supposed to fund. 549 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: He's been traveling around the country to talk about the 550 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: infrastructure law, but it's going to be years before this 551 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:48,479 Speaker 1: stuff even begins to be built. There's immense frustration in that, 552 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: and he's vocalized that clearly, because almost three years ago, 553 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: a White House fact sheet said the President's plan will 554 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: accelerate transformatively investments pre development through construction. Shovel worthy ideas 555 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: will be turned into shovel ready projects. Nothing's been shoveled 556 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: except the poop that usually comes from these initiatives. Nothing's 557 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: been built three years nothing. Then he's going around the 558 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: country and he's saying, aren't isn't my infrastructure bill Gray, 559 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: Look at all these projects that I funded, aren't I 560 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: wonderful everybody's going what projects? We haven't seen anything built? 561 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: Because nothing's been built. This is the problem here. What 562 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: do people do all day in their government offices? What 563 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: have they been doing for seven years up in Sacramento 564 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: for the PCH. What are they doing in Washington and 565 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: all the other state capitals to fund? Because stuff needs 566 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: to be rebuilt, you know, the highways, the bridges, all 567 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: of it obviously needs to be rebuilt. But they just 568 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: don't do it. And he's shocked he doesn't. He must 569 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: be he must be completely shot. I mean the dimension 570 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: must be total if he is shocked at the government 571 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: didn't follow through with actual construction. And I don't know 572 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: where the money's sitting. I don't know where about money goes. 573 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: We come back two o'clock and we are going to 574 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: talk to an attorney. We're not an attorney, a professor of law, 575 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: Josh Blackman from South Texas College. He's an expert on 576 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: constitutional law. And because when I woke up this morning, 577 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: well the news broke yesterday during the show about Trump 578 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 1: getting kicked off the Colorado ballot and it's like really, 579 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: and you just don't know what to make of this stuff. 580 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: Who gets kicked off the ballot? And it was because 581 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: four out of seven Supreme Court judges in Colorado said, well, 582 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: he's an insurrectionist, violates the constitution, insurrectionist. And then I 583 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: went back and checked, has he been charged with insurrection? No? 584 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: Has he been tried for it? No? Has he been 585 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: jailed for it, convicted for it? No? No? Well, then 586 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: how can you deny him access to the ballet for 587 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: something that legally never happened or he's not culpable for. 588 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: They're not even attempting to make that argument legally in 589 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: any of these courts. So Josh Blackman, he'll explain it 590 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,959 Speaker 1: to us. Coming up next on The John Cobalt Show, 591 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: and Deborah Mark is live in the KFI twenty four 592 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 1: hour newsrem Hey, you've been listening to The John Cobalt 593 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: Show podcast. 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