WEBVTT - AMA: Better Know the Podcast Hosts! #1170 (Bestie Ep)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How to Money. I'm Joel and I am Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>and today we're hosting an AMA so you can better

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<v Speaker 1>know your podcast hosts.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, buddy, This is a This is like a

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<v Speaker 2>How to Money unplugged. Although by the way, my voice,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, does my voice sound horse to you?

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<v Speaker 2>This is a little battling, a little a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a cold here. But this is like a more

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<v Speaker 2>casual episode and instead of diving into financial tips, different stories,

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<v Speaker 2>different guests that we thought would be interesting for the podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>we are hosting an AMA and ask Me Anything for

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<v Speaker 2>those who like to spend time over on Reddit and Joel,

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<v Speaker 2>you posted in the Facebook group asking for just basically

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<v Speaker 2>if you had a question for us Matt and Joel

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<v Speaker 2>about anything non money related. Yeah, those are the questions

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<v Speaker 2>that we wanted to hear from.

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<v Speaker 1>You well, and specifically when we say non money related,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't want it to be like an ask htm

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<v Speaker 1>episode right where you're asking money questions that you have.

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<v Speaker 1>But some people did ask about our financials. They asked

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<v Speaker 1>about how our podcast makes money. We're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>to those questions during this episode. So there is there's

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<v Speaker 1>a little.

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<v Speaker 2>Bit of money and that's just like one question. The

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<v Speaker 2>rest of them are very very personal, honestly, and so

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know about your lower back tattoo. Matt Joel

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<v Speaker 2>actually does have a tramp stamp, and we'll get to

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<v Speaker 2>that right after we introduce our beer. And actually we

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to should we did you want to explain the

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<v Speaker 2>Better Know Your podcast hosts? Oh, so it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>throwback to the Colbert Report, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So one of the things out there best segments

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<v Speaker 1>in TV history was when Stephen Colbert, who was at

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<v Speaker 1>that point not nearly as well known, and he would

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<v Speaker 1>sit down with a congress person from a small district

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<v Speaker 1>in a random standum state, and so it was called

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<v Speaker 1>Better Know a District, And so he would interview a

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<v Speaker 1>congress person and ask him off the wall questions and

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like TV gold and so good. The

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<v Speaker 1>Colbert Reports a good segment was one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>shows on TV at that point in time. Oh easily

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<v Speaker 1>went back to back between The Daily Show and The

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<v Speaker 1>Colbert Report. Was like, that was an hour worth of

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<v Speaker 1>just utter beautiful political insanity.

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<v Speaker 2>But which Kate and I attended a taping of. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if we've ever talked about that. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we talkedah okay, yeah we got they were free back

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<v Speaker 2>in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>That was right before he stopped doing it, right right

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<v Speaker 1>before he took it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was the last year, last season, and we

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<v Speaker 2>lucked out and got tickets to one of the tapings.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's a fun time in the same way,

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<v Speaker 1>you can feel free to humiliate us with your questions

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe I'll do another one of these in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>But we were like, listen, like we've done matt our

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<v Speaker 1>personal stories, you and I where we kind of interviewed

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<v Speaker 1>each other, but it was.

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<v Speaker 2>More of like the our personal finance background essessily and

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<v Speaker 2>pause of like our history of money, how we approached money,

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<v Speaker 2>how we got.

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<v Speaker 1>To where we are today. If you want to know

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<v Speaker 1>more of those backgrounds, we'll link to both of those

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<v Speaker 1>episodes in the show. Yes, but this is really just

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<v Speaker 1>a way for you to ask your questions. Like if

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<v Speaker 1>you've listened for two months or for two years, you

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<v Speaker 1>probably have some questions about but who we are, what

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<v Speaker 1>we like, like what we do, and so we just

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<v Speaker 1>thought to be fun to take some of those on today's.

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<v Speaker 2>Episode's right, But first let's introduce our beer which is

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<v Speaker 2>Double Top, which is a double IPA by Academia Brewing Company.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking forward to enjoying this one with you today, buddy,

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<v Speaker 2>and we will share our thoughts at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the episode for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this one was a collab with one of our

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<v Speaker 1>local bottle shops, which is the best bottle shop in

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<v Speaker 1>the area. We'll give our thoughts on this beer at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the episode. But let's get to it, Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do the ama and give you guys a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to know us a little bit better. There were some

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<v Speaker 1>great questions posed in our Facebook group. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are not a member of the how to

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<v Speaker 1>Money Facebook group, go to Facebook dot com. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>you know, If you're so inclined, join the head of

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<v Speaker 1>Money Facebook group. We'd love to have you. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of awesome people asking each other money questions, giving

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<v Speaker 1>each other helpful financial.

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<v Speaker 2>Advice, encouraging each other.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the hive mind at work and the people are

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<v Speaker 1>sweet in there, which is nice because that's a rarity

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to online engagement. But let's get to

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<v Speaker 1>our first question, Matt, that someone in the Facebook group

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<v Speaker 1>post this one was from Susan and it says, how

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<v Speaker 1>did you guys first meet each other. Alex also chimed

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<v Speaker 1>in he wanted a friendship history, so you want to

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<v Speaker 1>start on that one?

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<v Speaker 2>You made me kick it off. Yeah, so I would

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<v Speaker 2>say basically, it was a game night. So we've got

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<v Speaker 2>some mutual friends, and they invited Kate and I as

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<v Speaker 2>well as you and Emily and maybe like another couple

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<v Speaker 2>or two over. I cannot remember, but I know that

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<v Speaker 2>y'all were there. I know that we were there. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>pretty sure we played Settlers of Catan. I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 2>I probably won, unlikely, and so honestly, I'm surprised we

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<v Speaker 2>are actually friend because I know you hate getting beat

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<v Speaker 2>I am competitive. But that was that was when we

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<v Speaker 2>first met, and pretty much we've been friends ever since then. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, that's actually okay, So I take it back.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the first time we met you two as a couple.

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<v Speaker 2>I had met Emily. Kate and I had met Emily

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<v Speaker 2>before previously. We talked about Monday Night Brewly they make

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<v Speaker 2>Atlanta's best beer, but back in the day they used

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<v Speaker 2>to brew in one of the founder's garage, Jeff's garage,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember meeting Emily way way back in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>This is before you two started dating.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, yeah, that's a good point. So, yeah, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have known each other longer.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm slightly longer than a little bit longer than.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, we've been friends for now something close to

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen years. I guess that's got to be something a

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<v Speaker 1>long time close to that. Yes, I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of twenty eleven. Yeah, so yeah, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things where Matt and I we just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of very different personalities in a lot of ways,

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<v Speaker 1>but we have a lot of things in common. We

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<v Speaker 1>care about a lot of the same things. We also

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<v Speaker 1>went to the same church for a long time, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's part of it. We're actually we've got a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of faith based questions that we'll get to in a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit too. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, so kind of related to how we met

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<v Speaker 2>each other. Megan asked, how did you meet your wives?

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<v Speaker 2>And I already explained how I met your wife, Joel,

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<v Speaker 2>how did you meet your wife?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so interestingly enough at church, and so her other

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<v Speaker 1>question was, I'm curious if you guys are religious at all,

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, my wife and I we met it well,

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<v Speaker 1>actually the first time I ever met her was at

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<v Speaker 1>a friend's wedding and I remember seeing her on the

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<v Speaker 1>dance floor and she has dance moves like no other,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I was like, who is this girl with

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<v Speaker 1>those phenomenal dance moves? And it turns out she was

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<v Speaker 1>dating someone else at the time, and so I had

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of like I asked around behind the scenes,

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<v Speaker 1>got the low, and finally she broke up with that loser,

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<v Speaker 1>and I immediately asked her on a date and it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't take well. Actually, the first three dates did not

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<v Speaker 1>go so well, and we just didn't connect at all,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I'm just not going to ask

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<v Speaker 1>her out again. I don't know. She felt very guarded

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<v Speaker 1>and so we didn't really hit it off immediately. But

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<v Speaker 1>then we kind of started to hang out as friends

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<v Speaker 1>more and more and we realized that we liked each other,

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<v Speaker 1>started dating again. Didn't have to date very long before

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<v Speaker 1>we knew, hey, you're the one for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we pop the big question, you are engaged. And

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<v Speaker 2>so this is when y'all are both in your mid twenties,

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<v Speaker 2>you are kind of like young professionals.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Kate and I we met when we were in college,

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<v Speaker 2>and so she was a freshman.

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<v Speaker 1>I was more of a young unprofessional. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>you still got to wear your jeans and T shirts.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Kate was a freshman. I was a senior the year

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<v Speaker 2>that we met, and so it didn't make a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot of sense for us to start dating. But we

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<v Speaker 2>had a lot of mutual friends. Is it because of

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<v Speaker 2>that we started hanging out some and then started hanging

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<v Speaker 2>out more one on one started dating that last semester

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<v Speaker 2>before I got graduated. So it was one of the

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really make sense, But you know, jel love, it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't really make a whole lot of sense sometimes, does

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<v Speaker 2>it true? But yeah, that is how philosopher Buney and well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and Megan the second part of our question. I've always

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<v Speaker 2>been curious if you guys are religious at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Carol had a question too that followed up on that. Basically, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the Ancient Money Wisdom episode. She said, I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>hear more about how faith factors into your money decisions,

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<v Speaker 1>is at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Those are kind of connected connected questions there. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was raised Catholic, I grew up Catholic, and

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<v Speaker 2>then over time found myself in other branches of Christianity,

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<v Speaker 2>But does that factor into any of our money decisions?

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<v Speaker 2>And I would say absolutely. It's hard to tell which aspects,

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<v Speaker 2>which parts of faith directly influence money decisions. We recently

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<v Speaker 2>had an episode about being charitable, about giving your money away.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a way in which it directly impacts how

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<v Speaker 2>it is that we handle our money. So in the Bible,

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<v Speaker 2>there's the tithe which is giving away ten percent of

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<v Speaker 2>your income.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of the Old Testmun print. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the principle in the New Testament that Jesus espouses is

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<v Speaker 1>to sacrificially give your money away, which I think is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like even in.

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<v Speaker 2>A higher standard exactly, Yeah, And so I mean that's

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<v Speaker 2>one of, like one of the direct ways. But ultimately,

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<v Speaker 2>like I feel like one of the core tenets of

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<v Speaker 2>Christianity is just about it's about loving other people, right,

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<v Speaker 2>like loving your neighbor, loving your enemies. And so when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to just how it is that our family

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<v Speaker 2>handles our money and just kind of what it is

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<v Speaker 2>that we do here on the show, Joel, I think

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<v Speaker 2>basically maybe an oversimplified filter is does this action does

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<v Speaker 2>it demonstrate love to other people to our listeners, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think by running almost every decision that we make

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<v Speaker 2>sort of through that filter. In granted, it's not like

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<v Speaker 2>we're sitting sitting down and like literally asking that question

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<v Speaker 2>every time we have to make a decision, but that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of it tints every decision that we make. It's

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like this underlying current that helps to guide

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<v Speaker 2>us when it comes to whether just different advertising opportunities

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<v Speaker 2>that we're faced with, or just the kind of content

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<v Speaker 2>and how it is that we want to approach topics.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I think to one of things. We don't really

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<v Speaker 1>explicitly talk about our faith on the show a whole lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've had listener emails from time to time to

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<v Speaker 1>like you said this on the show that sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who might like go to church or have a

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<v Speaker 1>specific kind of faith and they want to ask more questions.

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<v Speaker 1>We're more than happy to discuss it. But it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things where there are people who are really

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<v Speaker 1>outspoken about their faith who oftentimes do more harm than good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, And so it's not that we want to

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<v Speaker 1>hide what we believe, but it's the reality is we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen people use their faith sometimes as a cudgel when

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<v Speaker 1>they're in places of prominence, and so we want to

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<v Speaker 1>be careful how we talk about our faith, and so

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<v Speaker 1>we'd rather live it out more than yell it out.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, we appreciate those questions, and so, yes, faith

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<v Speaker 1>plays an important fact factor in our lives. Carol also said,

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<v Speaker 1>you have rules or guidelines forgiving that help you overcome

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<v Speaker 1>your natural frugality, which I think is honestly is like

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<v Speaker 1>one of the toughest things I've had to wrestle with

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm naturally frugal, and so giving money away feels

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<v Speaker 1>painful in a lot of ways. And we reference the

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<v Speaker 1>episode we just did Matt about giving money away, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think that is an important part of it

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<v Speaker 1>for me, is to like a counterbalance. Yeah, and it

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<v Speaker 1>helps me reframe what's true and remember what's true the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that I'm not promised tomorrow and that my money

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<v Speaker 1>isn't what's going to save me, and so giving it

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<v Speaker 1>away is part of something deeper and more important and

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<v Speaker 1>more fundamental than probably even we even talked about in

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<v Speaker 1>that episode. Totally.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's keep moving, Derek said at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>why haven't your families gone the commune route. It seems

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<v Speaker 2>like it could be the most frugal option. What do

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<v Speaker 2>you think about that, Joel. We talked about it, we

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<v Speaker 2>really did, because when we.

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<v Speaker 1>Talked about moving part we talked that's closer to the

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<v Speaker 1>truth than you realize. We talked about moving south of

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<v Speaker 1>town as opposed to north of town. And there was

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<v Speaker 1>like this property with like a creek running through it

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<v Speaker 1>in this giant house, where like, what if we all

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<v Speaker 1>hold up in this one house, is there enough space

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<v Speaker 1>for us? Or we could build We even talked about

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<v Speaker 1>like building two places side by side sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>There's this lot that we looked at and it would

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<v Speaker 2>have been a lot that you could It was a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty big lot, and the idea was to potentially purchase

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<v Speaker 2>this home, demolish it up, divide the lot, and then

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<v Speaker 2>create two.

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<v Speaker 1>Houses on this side by side. So if you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think we were weird already for having moved our whole

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<v Speaker 1>families together, we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally considering going this route. But I mean, honestly, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad we didn't, though.

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<v Speaker 1>Because some space is good, I think, especially for your

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<v Speaker 1>family compared to like our family. We're more social beings

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<v Speaker 1>and you, guys, you love your neighbors. You guys love

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<v Speaker 1>your people too, but I think we might be if

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<v Speaker 1>we were your next door neighbors, it might be a

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<v Speaker 1>little intense for you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'd have to have like visiting hours, like before

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<v Speaker 2>this time, and after this time, you are not allowed

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<v Speaker 2>over here. Nobody, nobody is allowed over You'd have to

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<v Speaker 2>build a teller fence to keep me out. Probably, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>Sheila wants. She's been a listener for a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>and she and I actually go back to college. So

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<v Speaker 2>she listened to She said, tell them about your hitchhiking adventures.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I don't mind doing that. Back in two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and six, I guess I had had my first

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<v Speaker 2>job in radio and it didn't pay much and it

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<v Speaker 2>was morning so not.

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<v Speaker 1>Just morning radio, but like early early morning, early early,

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<v Speaker 1>so I had to wake up by like three at

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<v Speaker 1>the show I think was on from five to eight,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was just like a punishing job. So I

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<v Speaker 1>did it for like six months. It was an amazing

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<v Speaker 1>learning experience. I'm so glad I did it. But then

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<v Speaker 1>I quit the moment I could because it was just

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<v Speaker 1>not ideal for me to wake up at that time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to do something else, but I quit. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd saved up enough money, even on this meager salary,

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<v Speaker 1>to go on a road trip around the country with

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<v Speaker 1>one of my best buds at the time. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>three months in an old beat up Hondai court station wagon,

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<v Speaker 1>got to visit most of the United States, see some

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<v Speaker 1>amazing spots. So those were my vagabonding months. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things too, when you talk about like

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<v Speaker 1>compounding rates of return, Matt and investing young, that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of one of those things that a traditional financial expert

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<v Speaker 1>would tell you, no, no, no, don't don't do that. Those

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<v Speaker 1>months are so important when you're young, but so are

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<v Speaker 1>the memories, and so we're like taking time away, and

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<v Speaker 1>I saved up enough to make it happen, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so glad. I still look back at those months with fondness,

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<v Speaker 1>the people I met, the things I got to see,

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of the learning experience that it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Jason, he's asking if we keep a spreadsheet of all

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<v Speaker 2>the craft beers that we've had on the show, and Jason,

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<v Speaker 2>unfortunately we don't have a spreadsheet, which sounds counter to

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<v Speaker 2>how I like to approach life. But I do have

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<v Speaker 2>a folder It's a beer folder inside the how to

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<v Speaker 2>Money folder on my desktop on the computer, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm able to quickly go in there when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to specifically when we're like, oh, have we had this

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<v Speaker 2>beer on the show before? And then I can quickly

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<v Speaker 2>jog my memory and oh, yeah, no, we've already had

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<v Speaker 2>that one, or we haven't had one like that yet.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're wondering what we've had on the show before,

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<v Speaker 1>what kinds of beers specific ones, you just follow us

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram and you can scroll back through there pretty

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<v Speaker 1>quickly and you can be like, oh, you can get

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<v Speaker 1>a sense of which beers we've.

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<v Speaker 2>Had trying to post pictures of yeah, of all the

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<v Speaker 2>beers that we have. But ideally, man, we would have

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<v Speaker 2>a single pager on the website that had every single

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<v Speaker 2>beer listed out and then maybe one of these days

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<v Speaker 2>I think, I feel like that's something that we can

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<v Speaker 2>hire out for someone to do, like on fiver or something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but then you click the beer and then it links

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<v Speaker 2>to the episode where we had that beer.

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<v Speaker 1>That'd be cool. But I mean at this point, we've

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<v Speaker 1>had like almost four hundred four hundred something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've had more episodes than beers because we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have beers on Friday flights, and so that's why the

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<v Speaker 2>numbers don't line up exactly. Actually, related Lydia, she asked

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<v Speaker 2>if we've tried hop water before, you know what that is, or,

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<v Speaker 2>she says, if not, would you would you try hopwater?

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<v Speaker 1>Djoel, I don't know. I guess I'm not really sure

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<v Speaker 1>what it is either. I think Laga need Us at

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<v Speaker 1>one point came out with some sort of like infused

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<v Speaker 1>hop water. But I'd give it a shot. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably not something I either want to drink water or

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<v Speaker 1>I want to drink beer. I don't necessarily want the

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<v Speaker 1>blend to the both, but maybe it's awesome. I'd give

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<v Speaker 1>it a shot. If someone gives me one, I'll try.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh wants to know how either of you tried homebrewing,

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<v Speaker 1>and if so, how is the experience. I'll start. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I have not tried homebrewing. People ask me that all

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<v Speaker 1>the time as a craft beer lover, but one at

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<v Speaker 1>the time it takes to get up to speed to

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<v Speaker 1>become a decent homebrewer. It seems like it would take

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<v Speaker 1>a while and a lot of wasted, crappy beer that

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<v Speaker 1>I have to drink in order to get there, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's people doing it on such an amazing level, Like

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way it's even possible for me. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say nothing's possible. It's not impossible,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not possible, but it How long would it takes

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<v Speaker 1>me to be able to brew a beer as good

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<v Speaker 1>as other halfs IPAs or as good as a barrel

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<v Speaker 1>age sour from Casey Brewing blending and brewing, or like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it would take me so long to get

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere near that vicinity. I'm just gonna drink the good

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that other people make.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true, but there is some I mean there's a

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<v Speaker 2>frugal side of it as well, right, because imagine once

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<v Speaker 2>you did dial in, like right now we're drinking the

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<v Speaker 2>double ipa. What if you were able to dial in

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<v Speaker 2>a killer hazy double ipa. It's one that you're able

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<v Speaker 2>to keep on draft at your house and anytime friends

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<v Speaker 2>came over, you would you had the honor, the joy

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to pour them your very own double ipa.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah how awesome with that? No, that sounds yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like really fun to be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>We we did talk with a brewery at one point

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<v Speaker 1>about doing a collab beer, which would be really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that. Well, so it's one of our favorites

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<v Speaker 1>and it'd be really cool to get to go down

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<v Speaker 1>there and brew a beer with them one day. Oh okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>number yeah, So we'll see. I don't know, maybe that

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<v Speaker 1>will happen at something that would be awesome, That would

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<v Speaker 1>be cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've I've tried it. I did it once early

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<v Speaker 2>on in my craft beer career, and so because it

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<v Speaker 2>was early on, I'm guessing I probably remember it being

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<v Speaker 2>better than it actually was. But it was a Russian

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<v Speaker 2>Imperial stout and we brewed it, me and my roommate

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<v Speaker 2>at the time. We brewed it with another friend of

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<v Speaker 2>ours who was a pretty serious home brewer. But I

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<v Speaker 2>remember it being being solid. I even gave a couple

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<v Speaker 2>bottles to my father in law because I thought he

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<v Speaker 2>liked beer. I mean, he does like beer. But the

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<v Speaker 2>Macro produced laggers.

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<v Speaker 1>That first, the hot water, which is basically what bud

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<v Speaker 1>light is, right exactly. Yeah, and so that was Josh.

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren asked, do you have any other craft beer equivalents

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<v Speaker 1>besides beer, Joel, Yeah, we both do and So that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things where, yeah, we say a few

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<v Speaker 1>craft beer equivalents, right, so that you prioritize not just

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<v Speaker 1>one thing, but typically for the average person's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>something like three, three or four things. So my other

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<v Speaker 1>craft beer equivalents, well, the thing is they change too.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would have said international travel it varies, was

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things ten years ago, pretty kids, it

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<v Speaker 1>was something we did at least once a year. We

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<v Speaker 1>got to see some really great spots. Actually have a

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<v Speaker 1>question about that later, But now that's kind of changed.

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<v Speaker 1>We've actually our craft beer equivalent now is local places

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<v Speaker 1>to eat is one of those things. We spend more

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<v Speaker 1>money eating out than we do on travel these days.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just kind of gone up in our book. And

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully that will change as we get older and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>go back. We'll revert back to more travel on once

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<v Speaker 1>our kids get get bigger. But one other thing I've

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<v Speaker 1>always talked about on the show is full heart. We

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<v Speaker 1>buy weird art, and that's something my wife and I

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<v Speaker 1>are into at least one piece a year. The weirder

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<v Speaker 1>the better, the weirder the better. Joel always said, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I like the funky stuff, and we actually just went

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<v Speaker 1>to a full Heart festival not too long ago about

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<v Speaker 1>like four awesome pieces. But the cool thing was none

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<v Speaker 1>of those pieces were more than fifty bucks. So even so,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're willing to spend hundreds and hundred dollars on

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<v Speaker 1>a great piece of art once a year if we

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<v Speaker 1>find the right thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you said, craft beer equivalents, I think they

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<v Speaker 2>do evolve in morph and change over time. And so

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<v Speaker 2>right now I would say my craft beer equivalent is

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<v Speaker 2>most definitely paying for my CrossFit membership, because it ain't cheap.

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody who has not only joined a gym, but specifically

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<v Speaker 2>joined a CrossFit gym knows that they can be quite

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<v Speaker 2>expensive because you're not just paying for access to a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of weights that are sitting there, or like a

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<v Speaker 2>rolling machine that kind of thing. You're you're paying for

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<v Speaker 2>the jobs of a bunch of different trainers who are

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<v Speaker 2>there guiding you through the movements and teaching you. And

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<v Speaker 2>so for me, right now, that's most definitely my splurge.

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<v Speaker 1>It.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's CrossFit and actually a little money tip a

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<v Speaker 2>listener I cannot remember her name, but she emailed in

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<v Speaker 2>and shared after that episode, you know, we did the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, going full CrossFit on your finances a few

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<v Speaker 2>weeks ago, but she emailed about this this service called

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<v Speaker 2>street Parking, which is something it was something like twenty

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<v Speaker 2>bucks a month and it gives you access to programming.

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<v Speaker 2>So obviously you need to have some sort of foundation

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<v Speaker 2>under your belt before you kind of dive into diying

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<v Speaker 2>it at home. But this is totally an option that

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<v Speaker 2>I think for a lot of folks who are looking

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<v Speaker 2>to maintain that habit but who are also looking to

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<v Speaker 2>not pay out the nose for the expensive CrossFit membership.

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<v Speaker 2>That's definitely worth checking out. Again, it is called street Parking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll link to that in the show notes as well,

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<v Speaker 1>just so you can you can check that out if

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<v Speaker 1>you're interested. Yeah, but Matt and Matt, you would say

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't necessarily you don't have to have CrossFit,

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<v Speaker 1>but for you, especially as you're learning, it's it's really

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<v Speaker 1>good and for you the coaching part is really awesome. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So, and you might not do it. It provides that in perpetuity.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, well, and that's I thought. What you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>say is that I may not do it except for

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that I do have coaches, not yelling at me,

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<v Speaker 2>but just the accountability that comes with being there. At

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<v Speaker 2>the certain classes, folks come to expect that you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be there. There's a certain level of accountability. So I

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<v Speaker 2>guarantee I've done it more than I would have if

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<v Speaker 2>it was just left to me at home by myself.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, over time, if that's a discipline I can develop,

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<v Speaker 2>and once I learned some of those basic movements, then

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<v Speaker 2>I could well. I mean, I am all about diying

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<v Speaker 2>stuff and saving money and you know, doing stuff at home.

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<v Speaker 2>Thus the craft beer homebrewing conversation we just hadjole, But

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<v Speaker 2>in this case, I'm just not quite there yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool cool, all right, Well maybe one of these days,

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<v Speaker 1>but for now, Yeah, you don't mind spending the money.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of those craft beer clements. When you name

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<v Speaker 1>it like that, totally my splurge, you know, it becomes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot less. It's difficult to funnel money in that

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<v Speaker 1>direction when you've kind of named it as such.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I mean that's the tough thing about it, though,

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<v Speaker 2>is because it's typically at the beginning of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>At the end of every calendar year, we sit down

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<v Speaker 2>and we look ahead and we forecast and we dream

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<v Speaker 2>and we decide sort of preemptively what we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>spend our money on, and this was one that basically

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<v Speaker 2>showed up in the middle of the year. And so

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<v Speaker 2>because of that, I think there is sort of this

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<v Speaker 2>sense of guilt. But I know next year it'll be

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<v Speaker 2>a lot easier because it's something that we've already spent

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<v Speaker 2>money on, and so I will then be able to say, no,

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<v Speaker 2>this is something that is important, whereas this year it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of felt like it kind of found its way

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<v Speaker 2>onto the budget without as much planning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it makes sense, all right. So Lindsay wants

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<v Speaker 1>to know when did each of you become interested in

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<v Speaker 1>money and financial literacy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, for me, I'll say that necessity is the mother

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<v Speaker 2>of all invention. I became interested in personal finances when

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<v Speaker 2>I realized they didn't have any money. Like I had

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<v Speaker 2>taken my first job out of college and I was realizing, Man,

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<v Speaker 2>my paycheck is not going nearly as far as I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it would. And so that's when I learned about budgeting.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when I created my budgets at that point in time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also when I discovered Dave Ramsey. Though at that

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<v Speaker 2>point I didn't have any debt, but I still realized

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<v Speaker 2>the importance of budgeting specifically, and so yeah, that started

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<v Speaker 2>the process of me thinking about money talking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Kate and I were engaged at that point in time

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<v Speaker 2>as well, and so it was a discussion that her

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<v Speaker 2>and I were having as well. So it wasn't just

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<v Speaker 2>something I was doing, but it's something that we were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about, which made it more comfortable. I think for

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<v Speaker 2>me to then talk about personal finances with other people,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that may have led to me feeling comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>with talking about money with you, Joel, which maybe ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>helped lead us to the podcast as well.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that was a.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of our friendship early on. Was just talking about

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<v Speaker 2>money for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and for me, you can hear the full, the

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<v Speaker 1>longer version of the story in that that podcast episode

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<v Speaker 1>where Matt interviewed me about my money story. But childhood,

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<v Speaker 1>it was my parents not being great with money. It

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<v Speaker 1>was about the troubles of that caused the fights, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I tell kind of like the long form story

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<v Speaker 1>in that one. But then and then getting to work

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<v Speaker 1>for a radio show that was for fifteen years, it

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<v Speaker 1>was all about personal finance, which you are tsumer advocacy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that combined with my past, like with with what

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<v Speaker 1>I'd experienced in childhood, just to lit this flame in

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<v Speaker 1>me for a care to do well with my own

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<v Speaker 1>money and then to help other people do the sense

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<v Speaker 1>of the perfect recipe for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Last question here before the break, Kevin asked, if you

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<v Speaker 2>weren't financial gurus, which I'll put an asterisk next to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right there, what financial idiots? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>What career do you think you would have gone for?

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<v Speaker 1>Joel? All right, So I've always loved broadcasting. I got

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<v Speaker 1>into radio because I thought it was the coolest medium

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<v Speaker 1>to reach people. Long form audio to me is really

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<v Speaker 1>the most effective way to get something across. And I

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<v Speaker 1>love the relationship you can build with a listener just

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<v Speaker 1>by being in their ears for forty five minutes, three

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<v Speaker 1>days a week. And so, but for me, it would

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<v Speaker 1>have been being the Braves announcer probably, like that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do. I took the dream job. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I took a sports broadcasting class in college. Do it?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's possible, It is possible. I guess what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's easier for me to think this way because

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<v Speaker 2>for you, I like it feels like a continuation of

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<v Speaker 2>your previous career, But for me, being a photographer, this

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<v Speaker 2>has been a completely massive pivot in my life, and

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<v Speaker 2>so it's not very difficult for me to imagine the

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<v Speaker 2>different future, I guess, other than talking about money with

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<v Speaker 2>you while drinking beer here on the show, but generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 2>I found that one of the most rewarding aspects of

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<v Speaker 2>what we do here on How to Money is seeing

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<v Speaker 2>the positive impact on individuals' lives. The fact that we've

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<v Speaker 2>been able to encourage and provide the information for folks

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<v Speaker 2>to completely change their life, to change the trajectory of

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<v Speaker 2>their life, has been incredibly rewarding, and so I guess

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<v Speaker 2>kind of going along that path like finding some way

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<v Speaker 2>to like this is going to sound super woo woo,

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<v Speaker 2>but like life coaching or like some sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>general wellness. Money is one aspect of living a full, complete,

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<v Speaker 2>happy life, but there are other aspects as well, like

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<v Speaker 2>physical fitness. I mean again, that's something that you and

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<v Speaker 2>I have kind of thought more about recently, but like

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<v Speaker 2>social wellness, spiritual health, men like, there are all these

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<v Speaker 2>aspects of personal health that I think oftentimes get overlooked

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<v Speaker 2>and folks don't give all these other aspects the time

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<v Speaker 2>that they should in order to find the balance that

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<v Speaker 2>they need in their own lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people just don't have the time, or they feel

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<v Speaker 1>like they're crunched and get that, or.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't feel that they have the time when instead

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, well, maybe if you weren't watching Netflix or

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<v Speaker 2>watching whatever, like whatever it is that they're doing. I

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<v Speaker 2>think if it's a long time, yes, I think we do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think oftentimes we're so focused on our careers

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever specialty that we give all of our attention

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<v Speaker 2>to that we don't give time for these things that

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<v Speaker 2>would allow us to become like more generalists basically as

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to specialists. And I think we might need more

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<v Speaker 2>generalists in our world, or at least more of a

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<v Speaker 2>generalist approach when it comes to living a balanced life.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, I got it. I like that. I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So we thank you for all those questions.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a bunch more we want to get to,

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<v Speaker 1>just so many good ones that people sent in, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to our thoughts on a bunch more of

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<v Speaker 1>your questions. We'll get to those right after this.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh right, we're back to the break. Joel just hit

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<v Speaker 2>the ground running Nate. He is asking how many bikes

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<v Speaker 2>do you individually have and what's the best one or ones.

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<v Speaker 1>That you like? Okay, I have two bikes. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how we have totally in our garage as a whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically everyone in our family has one bike. I have two,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's because I have my road bike and I

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<v Speaker 1>have my ride wagon. My ridwagon is the electric cargo bike,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that helps me sling my kids around town,

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<v Speaker 1>and the road bike helps sling me slinging myself around town.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's all I've really felt like I needed. I've

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<v Speaker 1>kind of considered getting a mountain bike, but haven't pulled

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<v Speaker 1>the trigger yet.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got like around I think around seven bikes likely

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<v Speaker 2>to I feel like our fleet is likely to increase

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<v Speaker 2>over the years, as as the younger ones are riding

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<v Speaker 2>more as well. But I've got to I've got the

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<v Speaker 2>the Salsa, which is my gravel bike, which is the

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<v Speaker 2>bike that I ride to work here in our office

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<v Speaker 2>every single day. And then I've got the Yuba Mundo,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the longtail cargo bike, which honestly I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>riding nearly as much, which is kind of sad to

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<v Speaker 2>think about, but maybe I should consider selling it. But

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<v Speaker 2>your kids are getting older to Yeah, they're getting older

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<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I still take mine to school, you have to. Your

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<v Speaker 1>school's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Close exactly exactly, but it's yeah, definitely worth considering because

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to have a road bike like Hugel,

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<v Speaker 2>like the gravel bike. It's just like a general all

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<v Speaker 2>purpose bike. Awesome for just banging around town getting to

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<v Speaker 2>wherever I need to go. But I would love to

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<v Speaker 2>consider getting like a road bike to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>get on the roads and just the ability to go

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<v Speaker 2>fast to those twenty mile rides. So I'm like, absolutely, man,

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean, but ultimately, Nate, I would say, like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're asking this because you are curious in getting

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<v Speaker 2>a bike, I would say, get whatever bike that you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be able to ride. And I think oftentimes

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:50.240
<v Speaker 2>utility biking is it's basically underrated, and that is finding

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<v Speaker 2>ways to bike to some of the places that you're

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<v Speaker 2>already going to go in life.

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<v Speaker 1>As those hybrid bikes, by the way, are typically perfect

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of people. Yeah, they're somewhere in between,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like a gravel bike and a road bike. Yeah,

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:02.359
<v Speaker 1>tires are a little bit fatter, so yeah, I think

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>that can be a good choice for a lot of folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And honestly, just to be honest, like the type

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:08.920
<v Speaker 2>of bike, like focusing on the gear oftentimes just gets

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 2>over It's overrated. I think the vast majority of the

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of biking that folks are looking to do can

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<v Speaker 2>honestly be done on any type of bike. But that

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 2>being said, those are the kind of bikes we have.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get to the easiest question, Matt. This

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<v Speaker 1>one's from James. He says, what are the three most

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<v Speaker 1>important decisions you made in your lifetime? And then he

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<v Speaker 1>says what factor questions? You say, yes, exactly what factors

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<v Speaker 1>went into the outcome of those decisions? And he says, timing, luck, priorities,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. So, all right, three most important decisions you made? Money?

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<v Speaker 1>What are they? I thought you're gonna you're gonna go.

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<v Speaker 1>You start, well, I mean I think who who I'm married?

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<v Speaker 2>Huge?

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<v Speaker 1>Huge? Like right, Okay, you I don't know that there's

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 1>any more important decisions I've ever made, Because you're you're

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:51.159
<v Speaker 1>basically tying your fate in your future to someone, and

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 1>especially when you're when you're young and you get married,

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:55.399
<v Speaker 1>like you're kind of dumb, you grow a lot, and

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.920
<v Speaker 1>so you're hoping that you grow together in wisdom, in love,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I just feel really fortunate to have been

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<v Speaker 1>married to the right person.

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<v Speaker 2>And just the ability that hopefully your partner can provide you,

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<v Speaker 2>the balance that they can provide you. Well, like I

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:12.159
<v Speaker 2>would be such a worse human being if I had

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:14.919
<v Speaker 2>married Kate, and you're already pretty bad, Like could you

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 2>imagine exactly? Like could you imagine? I just can so, I, yeah,

0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 2>that was totally my first one as well. I'm curious

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 2>to see if our top three decisions mirror each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Having kids number two, it's been massively formation I left,

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<v Speaker 1>I left the kids, Okay, I think it's been it's

0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 1>been huge for me that that just well, it's brought

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot of joy to my life having kiddos, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's also made me grow up in a way the

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<v Speaker 1>ways that I otherwise would not have. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>the ways in which, yeah, you talked about your wife

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<v Speaker 1>being formational of mine too, but my kids performed me

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:46.120
<v Speaker 1>in major ways as well. And then faith faith, But

0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 1>I kind of think of faith as like this, uh,

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 1>continual decision that I have to make in a in

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 1>a similar direction what Eugene Peterson, a theologian, calls a

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 1>long obedience in the same direction, I kind of think

0:28:57.320 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 1>of that my faith as that. So it's hard to

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 1>boil down the three most important decisions of your life

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 1>in like thirty seconds or less. But that's what I

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 1>would tell James.

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because would say that both of those last two

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:09.479
<v Speaker 2>are also very important to me. But I did not

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 2>include kids or faith.

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 3>Like.

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 2>So my second decision I put down was choosing to

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 2>work for myself because the just the entrepreneurship spirit that

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 2>instilled within me. I mean, I know I had a

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 2>degree of that, but just actually doing that and getting

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 2>a taste for that freedom where nobody's necessarily setting my

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:32.200
<v Speaker 2>schedule for me. It's me, or in this case it

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 2>was Kate and I we were working together. Just the

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:37.720
<v Speaker 2>ability that we had, the freedom and the flexibility and

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 2>the autonomy that we had during the I mean it

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 2>was a decade plus that we had being able to

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 2>live the life that we wanted to live was incredible.

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 2>And there were times when I considered going back to

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 2>like a more of a corporate nine to five kind

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 2>of job, and every single time we considered it, we

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 2>quickly came to the realization that there's no way that

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 2>we can do this. Like once you have a taste

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 2>of you know what you and I would now call

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 2>call I don't want to say that it's like good life,

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 2>but the entrepreneurship life, well, we basically hard to go

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 2>back become unemployable because we're so addicted to the kind

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 2>of lifestyle where for me being able to do that

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 2>was largely it was largely being in creative control, so

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 2>in control most important, but just not not being subject

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:21.719
<v Speaker 2>to someone like we want to go in this direction,

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 2>and if I don't think that that's the right direction

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 2>to go in, I don't have any say if I'm

0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 2>employed by by someone else, a giant machine, by a

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 2>big cog when.

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Is our thing. It's just like you and I have

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 1>to sign off on it, which yeah, I think is.

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Great, But sometimes we have to flip a flip a

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 2>coin if it's fifty to fifty though, So my last one,

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to really lay the guilt on you with

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 2>this one, Joel, is.

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 1>You buddy, Joel? So not only just I did it

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>crossed my mind.

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 2>I thought about it, not only like obviously we had

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 2>years and years of friendship and just you know, the

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:54.320
<v Speaker 2>good memories, the awesome years of not only like you

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 2>and me, but Kate and Emily traveling together, camping, holding

0:30:58.280 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 2>each other's first babies.

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Like the problem is it says decision that you made, and.

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, I chose you, choosing to be friends. And so

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 2>there's like this whole personal side of our friendship. But

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 2>then you can also even sort of isolate it to

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 2>financial because even before we started the company, before we

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 2>started how to Money, we were still we were challenging

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 2>each other from a financial standpoint, right, Like we were saying, oh,

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 2>what are you thinking about about doing here? What do

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 2>you think about doing with your tax refund?

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 1>And in some.

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 2>Circles it would be there would be a lot of

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 2>talk about spending that in ways that would basically just

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 2>lead to consumption going.

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 3>To the Bahamas, But we were just talking about ways

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 3>to be smart with that money, remote ways to invest

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 3>that money, and and so there, like I know, before

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 3>we started how to Money, we were I can say

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 3>that I know we were in a better financial spot

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 3>because of our relationship with you and Emily. But then

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 3>you add how to money or originally poor, not poor,

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 3>you add that to the mix, and just the ability

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 3>for that just to add even more fuel to the fire,

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 3>the ability for us obviously to work together and spend

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 3>inordinate incredible amounts of time together. But then also too,

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 3>obviously the business how to money, it's been profitable. It's

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 3>something that we've been able to now do for full

0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 3>time for a couple of years.

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 1>It is incredible.

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 2>So when I think about, I guess the most recent years,

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, man, that was a big stinking deal, big

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 2>carry deal. And then had we not met, like, you know,

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 2>twelve years ago whatever.

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 1>And think about the things that we've done together, just

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 1>little things, but also big things like moving our families

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 1>at the same time. Man. So yeah, and when you

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 1>find I think that's one of the things, dude, it's

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 1>all my fault. No, it's been. It's been a lovely

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>thing for I think both of our families. But that's

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 1>one of those things too. I think we we undervalue deep,

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 1>meaningful friendship in our society. And we talked about the

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:35.520
<v Speaker 1>stats not too long ago, but people have fewer friends

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 1>than they used to have, fewer deep friends that they

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>can count on. And so when you have those friends,

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>man nurture those friendships because they're going to take you places,

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 1>they're going to encourage you, especially especially all the men

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 1>out there. Yeah, for sure, Yeah enough friends. And James

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 1>mentioned timing, luck and priorities. I don't. Yeah. I think

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 1>there's that question at the end of every It depends

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:53.600
<v Speaker 1>on how I built this about whether it was luck

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>or skill, right, And I think that's a really hard

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>question to answer. I think there's both, right, there's a

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of intentionality, there's a lot of good fortune. I

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 1>think our parents have played a massive role in the

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 1>people that we are, our lives have as well, So

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>everything all together, it's a big old cauldron that's that's

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 1>stirring and a bunch of things thrown in, and so

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 1>we feel really fortunate. We also try to work hard

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 1>to live up to our standards, right that we have

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 1>for this show, but for our families, for our broader goals.

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would say it's not like fifty percent luck,

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 2>fifty percent hard work or discipline, whatever. It's like one

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent of everything. It's it's everything, it's all of

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 2>it combined together in order to get us to work off.

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:37.719
<v Speaker 2>The MathWorks on that, but percent plus one hundercenterc Paul, Now,

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 2>are you starting to sound like a football coach? That's

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of what it feels like, Paul said, tell us

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 2>more about your long term fitness goals, Joel, Do you

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 2>have any?

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Not really? Honestly, it's funny we did the CrossFit Your

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Finances episode and when I was thinking about this question,

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I was like, my main thing is to be consistent, right, Yeah,

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 1>My main thing is to slowly gain strength, is to

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:57.640
<v Speaker 1>get a little more fit. But I don't have any

0:33:57.640 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>major thing. I'm talking with my brother in law about

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 1>doing an abbreviated iron Man like this this like it's

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 1>basically like a sprint try exactly. So it's like a

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:09.320
<v Speaker 1>five k and like seven hundred yards swim and fourteen

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:11.439
<v Speaker 1>mile bike ride. Like that's something I can do. Maybe

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 1>that's a goal worth striving for doing that in the spring,

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 1>But no, my ultimate I don't have any long term

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:19.319
<v Speaker 1>fitness goals. It's just to be consistent because for all

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>of my life, I've never really worked out, and I've

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 1>been fairly consistent here for like four months, and so

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I just want to keep that going.

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, same here it's I don't have like these.

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I want to be stronger, I want to

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:31.760
<v Speaker 2>be like my ultimate goal is just to be healthy.

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:34.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the whole point is to have a functioning

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 2>body that is able to allow me to do the

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:40.439
<v Speaker 2>things I want to do in life. Right, I think

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 2>that's where like a focus on fitness and health can

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 2>eclipse the other goals, like what I would would argue

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 2>might be the more important things in life. Right in

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:53.920
<v Speaker 2>this way, like health and fitness, it's like a exercising

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 2>It's a means to an end, in my mind, is

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:58.280
<v Speaker 2>not the end in and of itself. Like it's certainly

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 2>fun and it's certainly something I and I understand that

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:03.399
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of folks who who even make their

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 2>living by coaching or being an instructor or a trainer

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:09.400
<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing. But for me, I think for

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 2>the common person, I think it's helpful to think about

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 2>it as a means to an end rather than the

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 2>thing in and of itself.

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Same thing with a massing money, right, it's money is

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the tool. And if your goal is to mass tons

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 1>of money, like I don't have a goal to like

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 1>bench press four hundred and fifty pounds. That's just not

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 1>something I care about. And I think it's fine. If

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of the metric that you use, that's fine,

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:33.759
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's I think it's more harmful in

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 1>terms of money when I think your focus can be

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 1>so much on a massing more and more that you

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 1>forget that it's a tool to accomplish the things that matter,

0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>to partake in your craft, your equivalent, and build wealth

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 1>so that you can so that you can amass freedom,

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 1>and then also find ways to give that money away

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>to the benefit of other people. But mat, let's get

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:53.680
<v Speaker 1>next question. This one comes from Tiana. She says, if

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 1>you were a first time home buyer in Atlanta, what

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 1>areas would you recommend. I think we can be brief

0:35:57.600 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 1>on this one, but sure, we love we love it.

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 1>We just moved just north of the city, but we

0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 1>still think it's one of the greatest cities. And actually

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I think it was Money Magazine said Atlanta's number one,

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 1>the best city in the country, and Atlanta's got it

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 1>going on. I'm not going to disagree that our fair

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 1>city was Ranke number thirty five where we moved to.

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Actually interestingly enough, but I would say Capitol View and

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:19.520
<v Speaker 1>East Point. Oh yeah, those are the two neighborhoods I

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 1>would say, look there because I think they have long

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:22.280
<v Speaker 1>term potential.

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I thought you'd have more specific neighborhoods. I feel like

0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 2>you like you have your ear to the ground more

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:29.360
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to like newer up and coming neighborhoods.

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 2>I thought I was gonna say those, and I thought

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 2>you were going to be like, oh, those are those

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 2>are yesterday's neighborhood. But no, I still really like those.

0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:36.319
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, no, I agree with I think that Tri

0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 1>City area, that Hateville, College Park, East Point, like all

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:42.799
<v Speaker 1>those are great towns. So stuff going on south of town.

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:46.120
<v Speaker 1>And I think later on in the Facebook post she

0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:48.360
<v Speaker 1>mentioned her budget. I think she said four hundred and

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:50.160
<v Speaker 1>twenty five thousand, and there are other neighborhoods that we

0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 1>could recommend, just depends on the size of the house

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. Like we could say, oh, inmin Park's great.

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Inmend Park is a great neighborhood, but it's also really

0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:00.759
<v Speaker 1>really expensive. So if you're talking about living somewhere that

0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:04.920
<v Speaker 1>is like is cool in town living, but that doesn't

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 1>cost a ridiculous amount of money. The couple of neighborhoods

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I would consider truly are probably Capital View in each Point.

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:13.839
<v Speaker 2>Yep Sylvan Hills that's near their near Capitol View, kind

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 2>of that Purkoson Park area. But I mean generally speaking,

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:18.920
<v Speaker 2>and focus on neighborhoods too, like, don't just look at

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 2>the financials, but look at the infrastructure, look at what

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:25.000
<v Speaker 2>they what those communities have that you're looking for when

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 2>it comes to to where it is that you want

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 2>to live, but find you know, the ability to find

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:31.480
<v Speaker 2>a community, a neighborhood that feels like it's got some

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:35.240
<v Speaker 2>runway ahead of it, where you do see it improving. Yeah,

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 2>and they're just waiting on those folks to show up

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 2>and invest some of that time and energy into making

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:42.680
<v Speaker 2>those neighborhoods and making those communities into what it is

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:44.279
<v Speaker 2>that you and and other folks who are moving in

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:45.040
<v Speaker 2>what you're looking for.

0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:46.879
<v Speaker 1>And I think when you see a sense of neighborhood pride,

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 1>stuff like community gardens when I'm driving around, those kind

0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 1>of things strike me as like, wait a second, even

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>though maybe this community hasn't been as loved or hasn't

0:37:55.520 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 1>had the same infrastructure like input from city developers over years,

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:02.719
<v Speaker 1>there's something happening here, and I think Capitol of You

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 1>is one of those places where and we've already seen like,

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, a lot happened there in the past. So

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 1>you and I bought our first property.

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but then with the East Point, Like, what's great

0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:12.320
<v Speaker 2>about East Point is it's on the Martyr Line and

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:16.480
<v Speaker 2>so you've got that direct public transit, that direct connection

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 2>to the city, and so that's something that.

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 1>You don't want to overlook as well. Let's keep moving.

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 2>Joel Kyle says, when naming your kids, did either of

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 2>you have a name that you really wanted but your

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:28.120
<v Speaker 2>wife vetoed?

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Did you that happened with y'all? Well, just the middle

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:34.919
<v Speaker 1>name for Ezra, I really wanted. My dad's middle name

0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:37.880
<v Speaker 1>is Luther. My grandpa was a Lutheran minister, and so

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:39.799
<v Speaker 1>I wanted Ezra's middle name to be Luther. And then

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:43.319
<v Speaker 1>tell you that I don't really like that, So now

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:46.439
<v Speaker 1>went he has my middle name in my dad's first name, which, yeah,

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:48.800
<v Speaker 1>so it's Ezra David. But I got you. And I

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 1>do remember showing up to the hospital to meet your

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 1>second daughter and she was named something different than she

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 1>is today.

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:57.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, we had named her, but the more we used

0:38:57.320 --> 0:38:59.240
<v Speaker 2>her name there in the hospital, the more we realized

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 2>this isn't her name. I don't know what it was,

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:02.880
<v Speaker 2>but it just didn't flow off the tongue like we

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 2>were expecting, and so we literally.

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:05.800
<v Speaker 1>We called him Audible.

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 2>And we'd already told our parents and everything, but then

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 2>when they showed up in the hospital, we told her.

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:12.239
<v Speaker 2>We told them her new name, and they thought we

0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 2>were joking. But I am specifically thinking of Kyle, our

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 2>third daughter. I wanted to name Savannah because I've got

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:26.320
<v Speaker 2>this thing for girls that have boy sounding names, like Andy,

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:30.000
<v Speaker 2>what's another one. There's a bunch of names out there

0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:32.719
<v Speaker 2>that are traditionally considered boy names, but they can also

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:36.360
<v Speaker 2>be Taylor, Taylor, And so with Savannah, the idea was

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 2>that we would name her Savannah, but I wanted to

0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:41.320
<v Speaker 2>call her Van, which I thought was going to be

0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 2>the coolest thing ever. Kate disagreed. She just couldn't get

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:47.360
<v Speaker 2>behind naming her like the super southern sounding name Savannah.

0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, Van is the leading lady in Atlanta. Zazzi beats

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 1>his character's name, which still in one of my all

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 1>time favor shows. All Right, what's a hobby, Matt, You

0:39:57.680 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 1>aren't into, but you wish you.

0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Were go back to going back to homebrewing. I kind

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 2>of wish I was in.

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:04.840
<v Speaker 1>That was also one from Kyle by the way, Yeah, yeah.

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Like if I was a master homebrewer again, the ability

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 2>to have some amazing beer on hand. I wish I

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:11.719
<v Speaker 2>was into smoking meat. That's not that's something that you've

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:14.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of gotten into. And I feel like I'm slowly

0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 2>testing the waters a little bit, getting the feel for

0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:18.719
<v Speaker 2>But it's not something I do at all right now.

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:19.839
<v Speaker 2>But I kind of wish I did.

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 1>All right. I wish I read more. I wish I

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:23.759
<v Speaker 1>read books more. I read a lot of here, I

0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:25.239
<v Speaker 1>read a lot for the show. I read a lot

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 1>during my nine to five. I wish I wasn't so

0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:30.400
<v Speaker 1>dang tired at night that I could stay up and

0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 1>read more books. Also, pickleball, everybody's into it. I kind

0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 1>of want to get into it too. I want to

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:36.839
<v Speaker 1>join the bandwagon. I'm not gonna lie. Have you ever

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:39.080
<v Speaker 1>played I have not. No. I played it one time

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:42.000
<v Speaker 1>else and I had a blast, like it was one

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:43.920
<v Speaker 1>of the most fun things I've ever done, So I

0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 1>would I would totally do pickleball. Well.

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:48.400
<v Speaker 2>On a related note, what are some of the best

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 2>non financial books that you've read?

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 1>This is another one from Kyle. Anything by John Steinbeck

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:56.719
<v Speaker 1>and Anything and Everything by John steinbas He is my

0:40:56.800 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 1>number one favorite book of all time. I also like

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 1>books on more so When Breath Becomes Air and Being Mortal.

0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Those are two of my favorite books. An't so those

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:06.000
<v Speaker 1>are good.

0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 2>I like one that stands up my mind, The Coddling

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:13.359
<v Speaker 2>of the American Mind by Greg Lukianov and Jonathan Height.

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:15.759
<v Speaker 2>It's such a good book I would and I would

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:18.279
<v Speaker 2>recommend recommend it for multiple reasons. One, it kind of

0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:22.120
<v Speaker 2>explains like the polarized culture that we're in today. I

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 2>think it explains a lot of how we arrived at

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:26.920
<v Speaker 2>that point. But then also for parents out there, as

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:32.840
<v Speaker 2>you are looking to raise resilient, adaptable, smart, functional children

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 2>in this world, they spend a lot of time talking

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 2>about like fragility and what it means to be anti

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:40.680
<v Speaker 2>fragile and what it means to be like a kid

0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 2>that can be just resilient in the world today.

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, just.

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 2>From a just from a social commentary, and it's back

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:48.880
<v Speaker 2>by research as well, but it's interesting from that angle,

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 2>but also from a from a parenting angle as well.

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:52.319
<v Speaker 2>I would I would recommend that one.

0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Nice. Yeah, no, I like that. I like Jonathan hight

0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Is one of the social psychologists doing great work. Smart

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 1>smart dude, all right is he says, does the daily

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:03.960
<v Speaker 1>stress of life go away when you are financially stable?

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:07.359
<v Speaker 1>What you think? No, No, No, I don't think it does.

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I think there's still a lot of things to stress

0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:12.879
<v Speaker 1>you out in life, especially as a dad with kids

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 1>who are going through a bunch of stuff. But I

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 1>will say to not have money as a stressor in addition,

0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 1>and it's not that we don't stress about money at all, right,

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 1>but to have it largely off the table as something

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:29.120
<v Speaker 1>that creates arguments or something we have to worry about frequently. Yeah, No,

0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:31.800
<v Speaker 1>it dials down the temperature of a lot of things

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 1>that we have to discuss. And so I think it's

0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 1>really important to strive after a certain amount of financial independence,

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:41.560
<v Speaker 1>of more peace hot money, of just more margin in

0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:43.920
<v Speaker 1>your life, because I do think yes it will. It

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:47.279
<v Speaker 1>can make your relationships better, and it can mean that

0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:50.320
<v Speaker 1>there's less money becomes less of a source of constant friction.

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it just depends on how many other daily stresses

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:54.839
<v Speaker 2>you have. If all of your daily stress comes down

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:58.200
<v Speaker 2>to financial anxieties that you might have, then yeah, having

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:01.240
<v Speaker 2>some financial margin, having that what you say, and she said, financial.

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Stability, that would absolutely help, right, Like to not.

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Have to worry about whether or not you're going to

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 2>have your power cut off or the water turned off

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 2>like that kind of thing. Oh my gosh. I oh, yes,

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 2>to be able to have some financial margin to where

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:18.480
<v Speaker 2>you can remove those worries from your plate, that is priceless.

0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:20.799
<v Speaker 2>But at the same so on one hand, I would

0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 2>say yes, but on the other hand, I would say no,

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:25.440
<v Speaker 2>because it depends on what you then do with that

0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:29.840
<v Speaker 2>additional margin. Because the typical cycle, I think most American consumers,

0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:33.800
<v Speaker 2>they basically arrive at a certain point, they remove a

0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:36.719
<v Speaker 2>bunch of stresses from their life, but then they sign

0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 2>up for additional obligations, additional financial obligations that then add

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 2>more stress to their life.

0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Right. So, I've known people who are financially free, who

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:46.920
<v Speaker 1>are not in a good place, who are not happy people,

0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 1>and who are stressed out because for other reasons. So sure,

0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 1>even having enough money doesn't.

0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, what if you're only looking at financial issues, right,

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Like does more money equal like less stress. Sure, And

0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:01.399
<v Speaker 2>I think that depends on what you introduced into your life.

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 2>And so what I was going to say is that,

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:05.680
<v Speaker 2>like you used to maybe be concerned with having your

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:08.600
<v Speaker 2>utilities cut off, right, but then like you mentioned like

0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:10.400
<v Speaker 2>a boat earlier, but like, let's say you decide to

0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 2>buy a boat because you know what this said in

0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:15.239
<v Speaker 2>twenty fifteen, this is twenty twenty two. I'm in a

0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 2>place where I can afford a boat. Well, if you're

0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:19.680
<v Speaker 2>barely getting by to where you can afford that boat

0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 2>payment or the additional expenses, and like it just escalates,

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:26.839
<v Speaker 2>like the wealthier you become if you continually sign up

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 2>for additional debt obligations. Essentially, those financial stresses can always

0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 2>be there. It's just you're stressing over things that you

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:36.960
<v Speaker 2>never would have thought you would have been stressing about

0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:37.879
<v Speaker 2>in a previous line.

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess I think I interpreted the question a

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 1>little different because she said, does the daily stress of

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 1>life go away? And look at Elon Musk, look at

0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:48.319
<v Speaker 1>real Gates. Those guys probably pretty stressed out with divorces,

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:51.600
<v Speaker 1>with taking on way more than by way more than

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 1>they can chew buying a social media company.

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:56.200
<v Speaker 2>There will always be things that happen in the world.

0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 2>There will always be some sort of insta like something

0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:01.480
<v Speaker 2>that's going to make you make your footing feel like

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:02.359
<v Speaker 2>you're standing on sand.

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:04.040
<v Speaker 1>And if you think that money is going to cure

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:06.839
<v Speaker 1>all of your ills, you're dead wrong. And so yes, yes,

0:45:06.960 --> 0:45:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm having more money. It's a tool and it can

0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:11.360
<v Speaker 1>help certain things, but there's a lot of things that

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:12.840
<v Speaker 1>it can't speak to. There's a lot of things that

0:45:12.880 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 1>it can't fix, So you have to know that going

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:17.360
<v Speaker 1>into it. All right, Joel Alex asked, what are your

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 1>favorite music genres? Okay, my all time favorite music genre

0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:23.920
<v Speaker 1>alt country, so not radio country, but the alt country stuff,

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:28.719
<v Speaker 1>so like old school Ryan Adams, like Jason isbel like

0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:31.920
<v Speaker 1>the dry By Truckers like Tyler Childers. Right now, is

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:35.319
<v Speaker 1>there all the bands I've heard you mentioned? But and

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:37.880
<v Speaker 1>then just probably indie rock. So some people say I

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:39.480
<v Speaker 1>like all the music, and I'm like, nah, I kind

0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:40.239
<v Speaker 1>of like just a little bit.

0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:43.319
<v Speaker 2>We've got the indie rock, indie rock overlap, like I

0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:46.359
<v Speaker 2>lean more in like the electronica like post rock kind

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:47.120
<v Speaker 2>of genre.

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 1>And so I mean for I mean, I still am

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:50.719
<v Speaker 1>You're a big namel Back.

0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Guy, I don't listen to as much music as I

0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:57.400
<v Speaker 2>used to because it is oftentimes filled with podcasts and audiobooks.

0:45:57.440 --> 0:46:00.360
<v Speaker 2>But like Radiohead, I probably have listened to more Ahead

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:03.040
<v Speaker 2>than any other band in my entire life. Electron like

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:05.759
<v Speaker 2>Sunlux Tycho, So it's maybe a little bit more of

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:08.920
<v Speaker 2>that ambient electronic music. Yeah, But then like like Bony

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:12.000
<v Speaker 2>there and like Sufyan, like these are all folks that's

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 2>we overlap. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of bands that

0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:16.239
<v Speaker 2>we both like. It's not But then I also like

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:17.600
<v Speaker 2>there's some bluegrass that I really like.

0:46:17.640 --> 0:46:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I've been to.

0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:21.439
<v Speaker 2>I think I've seen more nickel Creek, not nickel Back

0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:25.000
<v Speaker 2>break shows than any other any other band in my

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:26.840
<v Speaker 2>entire be in Heaven. If nickel Back opened up for

0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:29.839
<v Speaker 2>nickel Creek, that would be like the top billing for you.

0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:32.239
<v Speaker 2>I wish I could even sing a line or two

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:34.640
<v Speaker 2>of a Nickelback song just to drive the point home,

0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:36.439
<v Speaker 2>but I don't, so I can't.

0:46:36.440 --> 0:46:38.160
<v Speaker 1>All right, So on that note, Sandy says, what song

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:40.040
<v Speaker 1>when it comes on the radio can you not resist

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:42.719
<v Speaker 1>singing out loud to? Also? What movie? No matter when

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:44.560
<v Speaker 1>you tune in, do you have no choice but to

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:46.319
<v Speaker 1>stop and watch the rest because you love it so much?

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:47.400
<v Speaker 1>All Right, I got the song.

0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:50.680
<v Speaker 2>I would say any song on Third Eye Blind's.

0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Debut album, Okay, yeah, that's a good hand.

0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:54.479
<v Speaker 2>Literally, I think I know the words to every single

0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:56.440
<v Speaker 2>song on that album and I saw them live recently.

0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Song along the whole Time journey for me, probably almost

0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:02.080
<v Speaker 2>any journeys, Like how can you not try to mimic

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Steve Ferry even though nobody can?

0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Movie?

0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't have a movie like. I mean, honestly, movies

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:10.879
<v Speaker 2>just aren't really a part of our life and we rare.

0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:13.440
<v Speaker 2>It's just I don't feel like I can give an

0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 2>honest answer.

0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Willy Wonka for me, Willy Wonka the Trashy Factory, not

0:47:16.880 --> 0:47:19.680
<v Speaker 1>the Johnny Depp version, Gosh darn it, the originally hate

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:22.759
<v Speaker 1>that one. Sorry. I have a lot of animosity towards

0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:24.759
<v Speaker 1>the Johnny Depp version because just not nearly as good.

0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:28.120
<v Speaker 1>And I'm obsessed, like will that might be? That's top

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:29.960
<v Speaker 1>five movies of all time for me? So if I

0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:32.560
<v Speaker 1>see it, it just brings back so much nostalgia and

0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I love the Gene Wilder's performance in that version, so

0:47:35.960 --> 0:47:37.960
<v Speaker 1>it's fantastic. Yeah, it's a good one. All right, We've

0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:41.320
<v Speaker 1>got more to get to, more ask me anything questions

0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:44.040
<v Speaker 1>from you guys, our listeners will we'll tackle a few

0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:49.839
<v Speaker 1>extras right after this break.

0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:57.080
<v Speaker 2>All right, we are back from the break, Joel. We've

0:47:57.080 --> 0:47:59.600
<v Speaker 2>got a few more questions we're gonna get to. These

0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:03.200
<v Speaker 2>are questions that listeners submitted in our Facebook group.

0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:05.319
<v Speaker 1>Someone did want to know, partly because in the post

0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned that we could cover your deepest, darkest secret

0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:09.319
<v Speaker 1>if the question was asked see this part.

0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:11.359
<v Speaker 2>We don't have time for that actual Okay, I feel

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 2>like we're even now.

0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:13.960
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go a little bit long. Yeah, it's gonna

0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:16.120
<v Speaker 1>be longer than usual, but but okayfully, as Matt Port

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:18.040
<v Speaker 1>is the soul out in this third segment, it'll be

0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:18.359
<v Speaker 1>worth it.

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:20.360
<v Speaker 2>This one is from Michael. How do you guys juggle

0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:23.839
<v Speaker 2>family life in podcasting life more effectively? I'm sure there's

0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:26.760
<v Speaker 2>a learning curve, But when transitioning into self phne business,

0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:30.200
<v Speaker 2>what were your successes and pitfalls early on around family

0:48:30.200 --> 0:48:31.240
<v Speaker 2>life and personal life?

0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:34.400
<v Speaker 1>You got a response. So, first things first, starting something

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:36.640
<v Speaker 1>new and trying to do it at a high level

0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:39.920
<v Speaker 1>means extra work. When you're getting started, and so I

0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:44.480
<v Speaker 1>think the key is communication, right, Like having that conversation

0:48:44.760 --> 0:48:48.239
<v Speaker 1>with Emily was like, Hey, if this is something that

0:48:48.239 --> 0:48:50.480
<v Speaker 1>you're behind and you think it is a good idea

0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:53.200
<v Speaker 1>for us to start and see what happens, just letting

0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:55.440
<v Speaker 1>you know I'm going to be a little more absent

0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and it's going to take more effort and work. But

0:48:57.600 --> 0:48:58.800
<v Speaker 1>we think that there's light at the end of the

0:48:58.840 --> 0:49:01.160
<v Speaker 1>tunnel that this can be some thing. And so you

0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:02.759
<v Speaker 1>have to have buy in and everyone kind of has

0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:04.879
<v Speaker 1>to agree, and you have to kind of continually come

0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:08.000
<v Speaker 1>back to communicate about Okay, how's it going, and like,

0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:11.360
<v Speaker 1>are is it worth it for all the parties involved?

0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:13.719
<v Speaker 1>So yep, I don't know. It's a learning curve, but

0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:15.600
<v Speaker 1>communication is key. I totally agree.

0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, communication, And then I feel like, I mean, honestly,

0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:19.719
<v Speaker 2>I learned a lot of these lessons when Kate and

0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:23.799
<v Speaker 2>I started started our company doing photography, but it was

0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:28.160
<v Speaker 2>our life like it consumed everything. It saturated every fiber

0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:30.120
<v Speaker 2>of our being, Like every second of the day, I

0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:32.360
<v Speaker 2>felt like we were talking of photography stuff. And that

0:49:32.440 --> 0:49:34.759
<v Speaker 2>was great on one hand because it meant a very

0:49:34.760 --> 0:49:37.759
<v Speaker 2>successful business. But on the other hand, it was detrimental

0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:40.880
<v Speaker 2>to our relationship. There's a lot of things that we

0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:44.239
<v Speaker 2>didn't prioritize because we were so concerned with talking about

0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:46.759
<v Speaker 2>business things. And so what that meant is I learned

0:49:46.760 --> 0:49:49.600
<v Speaker 2>that for us, boundaries were really stink and important. And

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:52.000
<v Speaker 2>so for what you know, what that means with how

0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:55.400
<v Speaker 2>to money is keeping like fairly hard boundaries when it

0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:57.759
<v Speaker 2>comes to the you know, the work that we do here,

0:49:57.960 --> 0:49:59.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, for the show, and then the life I

0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:01.920
<v Speaker 2>lead at home, Like the kids like they know that

0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:04.239
<v Speaker 2>I've had a podcast that you know, Daddy and mister

0:50:04.280 --> 0:50:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Jolie sit down and they talk about beer, and they

0:50:06.160 --> 0:50:07.759
<v Speaker 2>kind of like, I feel like our kids are starting

0:50:07.840 --> 0:50:08.960
<v Speaker 2>to get older, and they kind of make fun of

0:50:09.080 --> 0:50:11.960
<v Speaker 2>us a little bit because they'll hear us pull up

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:13.799
<v Speaker 2>an episode in the car, like we'll check it to

0:50:13.840 --> 0:50:16.640
<v Speaker 2>make sure certain things are playing properly. You know, we're

0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:18.920
<v Speaker 2>not sitting down listening to our own show. But they

0:50:19.000 --> 0:50:20.719
<v Speaker 2>always kind of I think they get excited maybe the

0:50:20.760 --> 0:50:23.520
<v Speaker 2>height of hubers when they hear our show comes up,

0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:24.759
<v Speaker 2>if you're that in love with the sound of your

0:50:24.800 --> 0:50:27.839
<v Speaker 2>own voice. But otherwise they don't really know much of

0:50:27.840 --> 0:50:30.280
<v Speaker 2>what we do, and for me, I think that's something

0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:33.360
<v Speaker 2>that's something I'm proud of. Granted, there's some overlap if

0:50:33.400 --> 0:50:35.919
<v Speaker 2>I'll read an article or read a book or something

0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:37.759
<v Speaker 2>like that that has to do with work at home,

0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:40.480
<v Speaker 2>because I'm just interested in it, and there's certainly some overlap.

0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:43.080
<v Speaker 2>But for the most part in my life at least,

0:50:43.080 --> 0:50:46.239
<v Speaker 2>it means there are some clear boundaries between work life

0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:46.879
<v Speaker 2>and personal life.

0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:49.239
<v Speaker 1>And that's probably too Matt. While why you and I

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:51.359
<v Speaker 1>we don't put ourselves out there on Instagram a whole lot.

0:50:51.440 --> 0:50:53.680
<v Speaker 1>It would just be more invasive. And it's not that

0:50:53.760 --> 0:50:57.760
<v Speaker 1>we're against obviously we're answering all of your questions today

0:50:57.760 --> 0:51:00.120
<v Speaker 1>on today's episode. We don't mind sharing those things are

0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:02.120
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent working right now, yes, And when it

0:51:02.160 --> 0:51:04.439
<v Speaker 1>breaks into kind of our personal time, our personal lives,

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:08.520
<v Speaker 1>it's we love meeting listeners, listener hangouts, We love answering

0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:12.120
<v Speaker 1>your questions, like we love that engagement. But typically between

0:51:12.160 --> 0:51:15.440
<v Speaker 1>the hours of like nine to five, like Monday through Thursday,

0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:17.400
<v Speaker 1>half days on Fridays, and if we can whatever we

0:51:17.400 --> 0:51:20.320
<v Speaker 1>can cram into there into that time, it's like pure joy.

0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:24.359
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, so for us, we gotta make sure we

0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:27.960
<v Speaker 1>keep those barriers intact, so it doesn't feel like it's

0:51:27.960 --> 0:51:31.560
<v Speaker 1>overwhelming the things we get to do and enjoy at home,

0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:35.600
<v Speaker 1>because that's the reason we're working right, to sustain our

0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:38.680
<v Speaker 1>families and to be able to really enjoy the time

0:51:38.680 --> 0:51:40.799
<v Speaker 1>that we have away from here too. Totally all right,

0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:42.839
<v Speaker 1>Michael says, And this is interesting one. He says, most

0:51:42.840 --> 0:51:46.560
<v Speaker 1>of the people advising folks on financial stability didn't get

0:51:46.560 --> 0:51:49.080
<v Speaker 1>their wealth doing what they preached. They amassed it by

0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:52.080
<v Speaker 1>selling a service teaching you about it. He says, I'd

0:51:52.080 --> 0:51:54.120
<v Speaker 1>be curious to get a glimpse inside the financials of

0:51:54.120 --> 0:51:57.880
<v Speaker 1>how running a podcast, investment properties, et cetera. Produces income

0:51:57.920 --> 0:52:01.120
<v Speaker 1>in your cases. In the past, you've referenced spouse's education

0:52:01.200 --> 0:52:04.200
<v Speaker 1>goals and expected job divinends, et cetera. But I don't

0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:06.320
<v Speaker 1>think i've ever heard personal results.

0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, so Michael, you know you're saying that other

0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:12.600
<v Speaker 2>folks are, would you, he said, selling a service teaching

0:52:12.600 --> 0:52:15.120
<v Speaker 2>you about it? And I would argue that that is

0:52:15.160 --> 0:52:17.040
<v Speaker 2>not all that different than what we are actually doing

0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:17.760
<v Speaker 2>here on the show.

0:52:18.160 --> 0:52:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what he's saying. Yes, he's saying, like,

0:52:19.680 --> 0:52:21.480
<v Speaker 1>so how do you did you guys? Are you guys

0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:24.759
<v Speaker 1>only making money from the podcast or were you I.

0:52:24.719 --> 0:52:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Read his question as in, like, like, you guys are

0:52:27.200 --> 0:52:29.440
<v Speaker 2>practicing what you're preaching. But what I'm saying is that,

0:52:29.480 --> 0:52:31.160
<v Speaker 2>like I feel like we're more we've got more in

0:52:31.200 --> 0:52:32.920
<v Speaker 2>common with those other folks who are out there selling

0:52:32.920 --> 0:52:35.560
<v Speaker 2>themselves on the internet. Then maybe it would appear right

0:52:35.640 --> 0:52:38.200
<v Speaker 2>like I mean, like those folks have courses and classes

0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:40.080
<v Speaker 2>and mastermind groups and all that kind of stuff that

0:52:40.080 --> 0:52:43.680
<v Speaker 2>they're selling, and that's one model, but for us, like

0:52:43.719 --> 0:52:46.719
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about similar things, but we just have advertising. Yeah,

0:52:46.760 --> 0:52:48.359
<v Speaker 2>And so I guess what I'm highlighting here is that

0:52:48.440 --> 0:52:50.640
<v Speaker 2>we're not all that different I guess maybe from some

0:52:50.680 --> 0:52:53.040
<v Speaker 2>of the other content creators out there. But maybe what's

0:52:53.080 --> 0:52:55.960
<v Speaker 2>different than is the spirit in which we do things

0:52:56.040 --> 0:52:58.279
<v Speaker 2>where we're not I mean sort of like what we

0:52:58.280 --> 0:53:01.560
<v Speaker 2>were saying earlier, you know, the ability to ask the question,

0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:03.440
<v Speaker 2>is this something that's going to be able to provide

0:53:03.480 --> 0:53:06.319
<v Speaker 2>value to listeners? Being able to run decisions through that

0:53:06.400 --> 0:53:10.000
<v Speaker 2>filter helps us to maybe approach everything that we do

0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:12.920
<v Speaker 2>with a slightly different spirit than just what's that going

0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:15.279
<v Speaker 2>to mean for our bottom line? How's this going to

0:53:15.280 --> 0:53:17.440
<v Speaker 2>affect the income that's not the question that you and

0:53:17.480 --> 0:53:18.440
<v Speaker 2>I are asking.

0:53:18.160 --> 0:53:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Ourselves, right, Well, we also talk about things on the

0:53:20.520 --> 0:53:23.160
<v Speaker 1>show that we have done personally, things that we've studied

0:53:23.200 --> 0:53:25.759
<v Speaker 1>this stuff extensively and we've put it into practice, And

0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:28.359
<v Speaker 1>so I think there is the reality that we've talked

0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:29.799
<v Speaker 1>about on the show before, Matt, there's a lot of

0:53:30.200 --> 0:53:33.360
<v Speaker 1>TikTok influencers that meanwhile, they just don't have the knowledge

0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:35.719
<v Speaker 1>and they don't have the depth of knowledge from doing

0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:37.920
<v Speaker 1>it for a lot of years. You have started your

0:53:37.960 --> 0:53:40.600
<v Speaker 1>own business. You and I have been personal finance nerds

0:53:40.600 --> 0:53:44.279
<v Speaker 1>on this journey for at least fifteen years, and so

0:53:45.360 --> 0:53:47.880
<v Speaker 1>it was my full time job producing a personal finance

0:53:47.960 --> 0:53:50.279
<v Speaker 1>radio show for fifteen years. So it's one of those

0:53:50.280 --> 0:53:53.560
<v Speaker 1>things where, yeah, we're not one hundred percent financially independent

0:53:53.640 --> 0:53:56.440
<v Speaker 1>right now, right, And income from the podcast is a

0:53:56.480 --> 0:53:59.240
<v Speaker 1>good thing. It does help us put food on the table.

0:54:00.200 --> 0:54:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Say, like, so he was well, sorry to interrupt, like

0:54:02.480 --> 0:54:04.120
<v Speaker 2>he was asking too, like how much of our income

0:54:04.160 --> 0:54:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he's asking that, right, like how much of it

0:54:06.000 --> 0:54:08.440
<v Speaker 2>does come from the podcast? Yeah, And we don't have

0:54:08.480 --> 0:54:10.600
<v Speaker 2>exact numbers, but like the majority of our income does

0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:12.000
<v Speaker 2>come from the podcast.

0:54:12.080 --> 0:54:14.200
<v Speaker 1>We each have a handful of rental properties, which definitely,

0:54:14.320 --> 0:54:18.319
<v Speaker 1>which means that we have income from other areas. And

0:54:18.360 --> 0:54:21.480
<v Speaker 1>so do we need the income from the podcast, Like, yeah,

0:54:21.520 --> 0:54:24.120
<v Speaker 1>we do need the from the podcast right now. Do

0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:26.360
<v Speaker 1>we need it five years from now? No, like we've

0:54:26.560 --> 0:54:30.480
<v Speaker 1>we've built up a reservoir as we've invested intelligently over

0:54:30.520 --> 0:54:33.560
<v Speaker 1>the years, and so no, Like if the revenue of

0:54:33.600 --> 0:54:35.839
<v Speaker 1>the podcast went to zero, that would be that would

0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:39.839
<v Speaker 1>be difficult, right, Yeah, it's but we are not, like

0:54:39.840 --> 0:54:42.839
<v Speaker 1>you said, selling a service teaching people about it. We

0:54:42.920 --> 0:54:46.239
<v Speaker 1>have over the years, I would say, amassed our wealth

0:54:46.280 --> 0:54:48.560
<v Speaker 1>by doing the things we talk about, and now putting

0:54:48.600 --> 0:54:52.600
<v Speaker 1>those out in podcast format is a way to continue

0:54:52.600 --> 0:54:55.680
<v Speaker 1>making money. But it is also something that we're passionate

0:54:55.719 --> 0:54:58.880
<v Speaker 1>about and that we have extensive knowledge about, that we

0:54:59.040 --> 0:55:02.040
<v Speaker 1>talk about regularly, totally well. And and the fact is if

0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:03.040
<v Speaker 1>we let's let's.

0:55:02.880 --> 0:55:06.200
<v Speaker 2>Say, for instance, that iHeart just got canceled or went

0:55:06.239 --> 0:55:10.200
<v Speaker 2>bankrupt or do something like that, we could totally survive

0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:13.080
<v Speaker 2>without income from the podcast. It's something that we are

0:55:13.200 --> 0:55:16.359
<v Speaker 2>leaning into right now because honestly, it's the most fun

0:55:16.400 --> 0:55:17.880
<v Speaker 2>thing that I do every day when it comes to

0:55:17.920 --> 0:55:20.680
<v Speaker 2>the work that I do. It currently does make the

0:55:20.680 --> 0:55:23.799
<v Speaker 2>most money from a time spent, but it also has

0:55:24.080 --> 0:55:26.680
<v Speaker 2>the most potential as well. It totally has the most

0:55:26.680 --> 0:55:30.040
<v Speaker 2>future potential, but the ability there's other things that we

0:55:30.080 --> 0:55:33.319
<v Speaker 2>are both interested in, and I think it would not

0:55:33.360 --> 0:55:35.360
<v Speaker 2>be difficult for us to kind of fire up these

0:55:35.719 --> 0:55:39.120
<v Speaker 2>alternative sources of income if we wanted to. If all

0:55:39.120 --> 0:55:41.640
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, I had eight hours of my day

0:55:41.640 --> 0:55:43.919
<v Speaker 2>back every single day to then focus Like it makes

0:55:43.960 --> 0:55:46.759
<v Speaker 2>me think about like you hired property management recently, and

0:55:46.800 --> 0:55:48.720
<v Speaker 2>does that eat into your rental property income?

0:55:49.000 --> 0:55:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Totally?

0:55:49.680 --> 0:55:52.160
<v Speaker 2>But you're able to use that time in ways that

0:55:52.239 --> 0:55:54.239
<v Speaker 2>you want to, whether it be with how to money

0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:56.200
<v Speaker 2>or just the other things you're interested in. And so

0:55:56.400 --> 0:55:59.280
<v Speaker 2>there's there's different trade offs that you make throughout life,

0:55:59.360 --> 0:56:01.680
<v Speaker 2>and I think I think what's important is for there

0:56:01.719 --> 0:56:04.520
<v Speaker 2>to be multiple options available to you. That doesn't mean

0:56:04.560 --> 0:56:07.080
<v Speaker 2>that at certain times, at different given points in time,

0:56:07.280 --> 0:56:10.359
<v Speaker 2>that you're not leaning into one of those areas a

0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:12.919
<v Speaker 2>little more heavily than you otherwise would.

0:56:13.000 --> 0:56:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, does that make sense? Yeah, no, it does. And

0:56:14.600 --> 0:56:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I think the reality is there are a lot of

0:56:16.960 --> 0:56:20.320
<v Speaker 1>people out there who have dabbled in some of these ideas,

0:56:20.320 --> 0:56:23.319
<v Speaker 1>who are still kind of fresh and new, but they

0:56:23.400 --> 0:56:25.600
<v Speaker 1>do they are good at social media, or they are

0:56:26.040 --> 0:56:30.120
<v Speaker 1>good at online content, and so they're trying to make

0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:32.320
<v Speaker 1>their money on the backs of teaching people in a

0:56:32.360 --> 0:56:35.400
<v Speaker 1>way that might be costly to them, although beneficial for

0:56:35.440 --> 0:56:38.440
<v Speaker 1>the creator themselves. And so that is our goal is

0:56:38.480 --> 0:56:42.040
<v Speaker 1>to avoid that. I know podcast ads are annoying, but

0:56:42.040 --> 0:56:44.279
<v Speaker 1>it's our goal to keep how to money content like

0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:47.560
<v Speaker 1>free and readily available. We think that it's it's advice

0:56:47.600 --> 0:56:51.000
<v Speaker 1>and information that the masses need to hear that everyone

0:56:51.040 --> 0:56:54.960
<v Speaker 1>out there needs access to. And there's nothing that needs

0:56:54.960 --> 0:56:57.880
<v Speaker 1>to be behind a multi hundred dollars paywall. And hopefully

0:56:57.920 --> 0:57:00.200
<v Speaker 1>we can keep all the content that we create free,

0:57:00.280 --> 0:57:01.359
<v Speaker 1>accessible down to earth.

0:57:01.400 --> 0:57:03.680
<v Speaker 2>That's the goal, absolutely, all right, let's hear from Katie.

0:57:03.719 --> 0:57:06.000
<v Speaker 2>She said, I told a friend of mine about your

0:57:06.040 --> 0:57:09.520
<v Speaker 2>podcast and your craft beer equivalent angle. Her response was

0:57:09.719 --> 0:57:12.319
<v Speaker 2>the problem is I have too many craft beer equivalents.

0:57:12.560 --> 0:57:15.000
<v Speaker 2>So what would your advice be for someone like this

0:57:15.080 --> 0:57:17.440
<v Speaker 2>who has a hard time narrowing down a few areas

0:57:17.520 --> 0:57:20.080
<v Speaker 2>to splurge on Jilli? You have advice for Katie's friend.

0:57:20.120 --> 0:57:22.280
<v Speaker 1>I would send her our money mission statement. It is

0:57:22.520 --> 0:57:25.640
<v Speaker 1>something is speaking of free resources. This is something Matt

0:57:25.640 --> 0:57:27.240
<v Speaker 1>and I took our time to create. We think that

0:57:27.400 --> 0:57:30.080
<v Speaker 1>walking through these questions and answering them will be helpful

0:57:30.160 --> 0:57:32.760
<v Speaker 1>to you and will be helpful specifically to your friend

0:57:32.800 --> 0:57:35.479
<v Speaker 1>Katie as she's trying to hone in on a why.

0:57:36.320 --> 0:57:40.280
<v Speaker 1>We think that it's the Nietzsche quote Matt that he

0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:43.280
<v Speaker 1>who has any why can bear anyhow. It makes it

0:57:43.320 --> 0:57:47.000
<v Speaker 1>easier to forego like frivolous purchases when you have a

0:57:47.040 --> 0:57:49.840
<v Speaker 1>deeper why attached to where your money's going. So if

0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:51.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, hey, I'm saving up for this really important

0:57:51.960 --> 0:57:54.280
<v Speaker 1>goal over here, it's going to take me like sixteen

0:57:54.280 --> 0:57:56.480
<v Speaker 1>months to get there. Well, if you have a problem

0:57:56.480 --> 0:57:59.760
<v Speaker 1>with frivolous purchases, it's actually going to help keep those

0:57:59.760 --> 0:58:02.280
<v Speaker 1>in life when you know the bigger, more important thing

0:58:02.320 --> 0:58:05.440
<v Speaker 1>that you're saving for. So yeah, the Money Mission Statement

0:58:05.440 --> 0:58:08.680
<v Speaker 1>hopefully will be helpful to her. It's free downloadable pdf

0:58:08.680 --> 0:58:11.200
<v Speaker 1>will link to in the show notes. Totally knowing, Yeah,

0:58:11.360 --> 0:58:13.720
<v Speaker 1>honing in on your why, spending some time doing a

0:58:13.720 --> 0:58:16.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit of like interior looking, I think can help

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<v Speaker 1>you figure out what matters to you, and then just

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<v Speaker 1>in that process it almost by necessity devalues a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot of other things that you did kind of prioritize

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<v Speaker 1>at least to some degree.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, man, I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. Can I just say too, like, I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a ton of crappy equivalents, maybe you don't

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<v Speaker 1>really get what that means. Because I think if to

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<v Speaker 1>zero in on a few things, true, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>say that everything matters, but then if everything matters, then

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<v Speaker 1>nothing really matters, and so you have to prioritize a

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<v Speaker 1>few things, like what are the things that really really

0:58:45.440 --> 0:58:47.040
<v Speaker 1>move the needle in your life. The more you can

0:58:47.080 --> 0:58:49.360
<v Speaker 1>focus in on those things, zero in on on those things,

0:58:49.720 --> 0:58:52.840
<v Speaker 1>pour your money intentionally into those areas, it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>move the needle, and then those other things are going

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<v Speaker 1>to look like, well, they don't really matter in light

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<v Speaker 1>of that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a lot of times it takes a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of soul searching to figure out what it is you

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<v Speaker 2>truly value. Becca asked. She said, favorite places you've traveled

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<v Speaker 2>to and places you most want to travel to if

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<v Speaker 2>money or lifehaz for instance, kids were no object.

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<v Speaker 1>Joel, I'm just say probably our trip to Norway Emily

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<v Speaker 1>and I, just the two of us was the best

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<v Speaker 1>trip we've ever taken. Nice. Scotland is probably the place

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<v Speaker 1>we most want to go. Mmmm you Scotland absolutely, because

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<v Speaker 1>it combines two things I love. Fantastic drink, yeah, with

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<v Speaker 1>a country that is beautiful, and we're actually kind of

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<v Speaker 1>talking with a friend of ours actually who's over in

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<v Speaker 1>Scotland and we're trying to find a way to make

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<v Speaker 1>this trip happen. You got to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean generally speaking, like when I think

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<v Speaker 2>about some of the favorite trips that Kate and I

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<v Speaker 2>go on, it it oftentimes does include natural beauty and

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<v Speaker 2>just amazing food or drink, usually a BUCkies for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a BUCkies.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, so you mentioned a road trip that you

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<v Speaker 2>went on with your friend like years ago. Kid and

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<v Speaker 2>I we've only ever done this once, but we took

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<v Speaker 2>a road trip out west and randomly kind of stopped

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<v Speaker 2>in at some the different wineries in Napa and Sonoma,

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<v Speaker 2>and we could not believe how much we loved it

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<v Speaker 2>out there, because I mean, obviously you've got some amazing wine,

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<v Speaker 2>you're there talking to other folks who also are into it,

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<v Speaker 2>but then they've got these trails that you can go

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<v Speaker 2>hiking on and so it was just this perfect combination

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<v Speaker 2>of enjoying the land but then enjoying the fruits of

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<v Speaker 2>the land. I don't know that there's just something fully

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<v Speaker 2>encompassing and where it felt like we were just fully

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<v Speaker 2>immersed within this particular region. And I think, yeah, in

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<v Speaker 2>a similar way, we would also get that in Scotland,

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<v Speaker 2>and so yeah, that's definitely at the top of our

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<v Speaker 2>list as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So hopefully had money tripped there soon. Shari says, what's

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<v Speaker 1>one piece of non financial advice you want to instill

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<v Speaker 1>in your kids? He's another big one. You have an

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<v Speaker 1>answer for those one. I mean, just the thing I

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<v Speaker 1>tell my kids all the time, and it's what I

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<v Speaker 1>want them to know is that they can do hard things.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, especially in an era of great wealth in

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<v Speaker 1>this country where we have a lot of things at

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<v Speaker 1>our fingertips, where we can order something on Amazon and

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<v Speaker 1>get it that day or the next day, it's easy

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<v Speaker 1>to become soft. And the reality is like, we need

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<v Speaker 1>to know that we can do hard things. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a comforting reality. And so I want to push my

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<v Speaker 1>kids in that direction, not like make them sleep outside

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<v Speaker 1>in the freezing cold or anything like that, to develop

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of hardness. But I want them to know

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<v Speaker 1>they can do hard things and to tackle hard things,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think that's where a lot of the joy

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<v Speaker 1>and life comes from. Nice. I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to take it back to a recurring theme love.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe when we're talking about faith earlier on. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like that's kind of the underpinning of so much of

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<v Speaker 2>what I at least try to do right and what

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<v Speaker 2>it is that I that we're trying to teach our kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, straight from the Bible. Greater love has no

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<v Speaker 2>one than this, he who lays down his life for

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<v Speaker 2>his friends. That's a loose translation. But again, the ability

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<v Speaker 2>to refer back to that and find ways to put

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<v Speaker 2>others before yourself. I think that if I had to

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<v Speaker 2>like distill it down, boil it down to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what it is that we're trying to teach our kids, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be that.

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<v Speaker 1>Again.

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<v Speaker 2>You can take that and go in whatever direction you want.

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<v Speaker 2>You can take that and then go in the financial

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<v Speaker 2>direction and figure out how that applies to your money.

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<v Speaker 2>But that would be my response there, Joe. Let's get

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<v Speaker 2>to our last question. This is from Tory, and she said,

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<v Speaker 2>if you had to pick an all time a favorite

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<v Speaker 2>beer what would it be? And also Joshua asked if

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<v Speaker 2>there was only one style of beer that you could

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<v Speaker 2>have for the rest of your life, what would it be.

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<v Speaker 2>This is again one of those impossible questions. But do

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<v Speaker 2>you have a favorite all time beer, Joel.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, not really, but I would say i'd associated

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<v Speaker 1>with a memory. So when Emily and I were in Belgium,

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember going to the Canteon and drinking it,

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<v Speaker 1>shrinking from the soaurus right from the sword, and so

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably my favorite beer memory, is those two days

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<v Speaker 1>with her at Canteon. But yeah, I don't know. Any

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<v Speaker 1>raspberry sour it is probably my favorite. Like that'd be

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<v Speaker 1>this a style that I'm really fond of. What would

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<v Speaker 1>I want for the rest of my life? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>probably like the finest hazy ipa is in all likelihood,

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<v Speaker 1>But I love footed sours too, So.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean each beer has its own time, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I want different beers at different points in

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<v Speaker 2>the year, and I can't even.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that kind of season right now, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, so I would say an underlying theme of all

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite beers oftentimes is that they're barrel aged. And

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<v Speaker 2>so whether that's a barrel age sower, a barrel age stouts.

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<v Speaker 2>But anytime a brewery is able to pull that off,

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<v Speaker 2>it man aging beers on wood adds such an additional

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<v Speaker 2>level of complexity of flavor that just takes it up to.

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<v Speaker 1>The next level. Would you drink a barrel age bud light,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd give it a shot.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally would, because honestly, that kind of sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>innocent gun out of the UK or whatever somewhere out

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<v Speaker 2>of Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure innocent gun is better than that. But those

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<v Speaker 1>are I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are some like ales or loggers or something like

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<v Speaker 2>that that are barrel aged. But I love that taste

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<v Speaker 2>of oak or whatever woods that they that they choose. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I don't have a particular favorite beer or

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<v Speaker 2>even a favorite style, but barrel age sowers, barrel aid stouts,

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<v Speaker 2>and those delicious hazy IPAs.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll be my non answer. Are you to Tori in

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<v Speaker 1>the Jeff? But I think the best, like the memories

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<v Speaker 1>associated with great things to me are what you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it enhances. The ability of the taste is one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, how much more meaningful is the glass of

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<v Speaker 1>wine you had when you were in so Noma versus

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<v Speaker 1>the bottle maybe you drank when you's true, the one

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<v Speaker 1>you bought at the grocery store, maybe even from the

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<v Speaker 1>same vineyard. Right, There's something about being there, participating, per taking,

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<v Speaker 1>which is.

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<v Speaker 2>Why going back to Becka's question about where to travel,

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<v Speaker 2>it's got to include somewhere with either good food or

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<v Speaker 2>good drink.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and good nature. It's so important for sure. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's enough. Yeah, that was a lot, wrap it up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you guys so much for submitting those questions. Some

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<v Speaker 1>easy ones, some hard ones, but a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 1>to get to go over those. And maybe I'll do

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<v Speaker 1>another one in the future if if you have more

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<v Speaker 1>hard hitting AMA questions for the hod of money, guys

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<v Speaker 1>will be up to the other year. Yeah all right,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's get back to the beer we had on

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, Matt. This one was called double Top Double IPA.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a collab between our local bottle shop, Sprayberry

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<v Speaker 1>Bottle Shop and Academia Brewing Company. What are your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was really solid, man. It has been

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<v Speaker 2>a minute since we've had a hazy IPA, let alone

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<v Speaker 2>a double here on the show. And because of my

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<v Speaker 2>the slight cold that I have. I'm not totally sure

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<v Speaker 2>if I was able to pick up all the nuances

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<v Speaker 2>of flavor of the different types of pops that they used.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd just say that there wasn't a ton of nuances,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think it's your cold. It wasn't me.

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<v Speaker 1>It was good. It's a little sweet, a little sweet

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<v Speaker 1>for my take, okay, but it was still. It was

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<v Speaker 1>still I would say, solid, yeah, solid beer. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>you and I were able to enjoy this one today

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<v Speaker 1>on the podcast, Man, but that is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>it for this episode. We actually did refer to a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of resources, like the money mission statements, so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be sure to link to that and others up on

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<v Speaker 1>our show notes on the website at howdomoney dot com

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. But until next time, Matt, best Friends out

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<v Speaker 1>and best Friends Out, Okay,