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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Our. On this Friday, Dan and the Dan

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Speaker 1: It's Dan Patrick Show, the Hall of Famer Dick Vitown

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Speaker 1: will join us. So some baby people always would ask me,

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Speaker 1: is Dicky V really like that? And I said, no,

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Speaker 1: he's not. When he was on the air, when the

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Speaker 1: red light came on, Dicky V knew how to be

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Speaker 1: Dicky V. But then when he wasn't on the air,

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Speaker 1: very quiet, and you know, he was able to tap

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Speaker 1: into Howie Schwab stumped the Schwab and how he was,

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Speaker 1: you know, the most knowledgeable sports guy I've ever been around.

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Speaker 1: And Dick would be able to ask how he questions

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Speaker 1: about certain teams, certain players, and if how he didn't

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Speaker 1: know it, which was rare, then he would certainly find

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Speaker 1: that information for Dicky V. But you know, when you

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Speaker 1: think about and I don't want to do Mount rushmore,

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Speaker 1: but I just want to talk about the growth of

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Speaker 1: ESPN back in the eighties, it starts with Chris Berman

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Speaker 1: because what Berman was doing it was different than your

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Speaker 1: local sportscaster. Because if you're old enough to remember a sportscaster,

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Speaker 1: you know the guy who's there money through Friday or

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Speaker 1: the weekends. They might get three or four or five

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Speaker 1: minutes at the most to deliver the local sports. This

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Speaker 1: was national, and this was a half hour show or

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Speaker 1: an hour show and doing all of the highlights. We

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Speaker 1: got to do all of the highlights of all the games,

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Speaker 1: and then Chris dropped the hammer with all of those nicknames.

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Speaker 1: It just never been done before. Now. The person I

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Speaker 1: would probably bring up who was a similar type local

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Speaker 1: personality was Warner Wolf in New York City because Warner

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Speaker 1: had a style and you know, let's go to the videotape,

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Speaker 1: and I think that he was really important. I don't

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Speaker 1: There were a lot of great local sportscasters and I

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Speaker 1: don't mean to diminish that role, but once you know,

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Speaker 1: cable sports came along, it did diminish that role because

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Speaker 1: you really had to go local because ESPN was carrying

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Speaker 1: everything national and showing those highlights and Chris was there. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, Ted Turner used to have a poster. I

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Speaker 1: was cable before cable was cool. And this is when

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Speaker 1: Ted started WTBS and uh, you know Channel seventeen, and

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Speaker 1: Chris was cool before cable was cool. When it came

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Speaker 1: to sports casting and then you had Dick Vital and

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Speaker 1: just those two, those two personalities that was that was

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Speaker 1: huge for ESPN because getting college basketball is what put

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Speaker 1: ESPN on the map. They got the Big East that

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Speaker 1: put them on the map. Big Monday was big. And

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Speaker 1: then you had you know, Chris Berman doing the highlights,

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Speaker 1: and there were a lot of other talented people there,

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Speaker 1: but but Chris was He was a larger than life

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Speaker 1: personality there. And Dicky v has carried and continued that

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Speaker 1: passion of loving college basketball. Um, that's what he's known for.

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Speaker 1: He just signed a two year extension. So great admiration

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Speaker 1: the millions and millions of dollars hees help raise for

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Speaker 1: the b Foundation. Yes pay Dick Vital began at ESPN

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Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine. It was the first year they

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Speaker 1: had college basketball rights, right tal called ESPN's first ever

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Speaker 1: Pall December fifth, nineteen seventy nine. And this is when

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Speaker 1: ESPN used to have the early rounds of March Madness

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Speaker 1: and Bob Lee was the host with Dicky v and

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Speaker 1: Bob was so good at landing planes, because that's what

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Speaker 1: other location. And Bob was just, you know, so good

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Speaker 1: Dicky v had the catchphrases, you know, ptper awesome baby.

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Speaker 1: But having Chris Berman and and Dicky V I mean,

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Speaker 1: an all news network, and I thought, that's where I

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Speaker 1: want to be and to be able to do those highlights.

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Speaker 1: My first show was with Chris to be around Dicky V.

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Speaker 1: So I was very, very fortunate in my eighteen years

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Speaker 1: there that they were there as well. Yeah. I actually

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Speaker 1: just looked up a list of non host who had

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Speaker 1: Keiper is a big wash, Peter Gammon's ye big one.

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Speaker 1: They list Tim Kirchin as one, but then they go

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Speaker 1: through Mortonton like all those guys sort of I mean,

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Speaker 1: a lot of contributors who weren't everyday people, right, well,

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Speaker 1: we were trying to get established. We wanted the networks,

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Speaker 1: they eventually it didn't matter whether they were going to

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Speaker 1: us because ESPN was going to blow everybody else away.

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Speaker 1: But mel Kiper what he was doing when he was

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Speaker 1: you think about the draft analysis, mel Kiper created that

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Speaker 1: YEA club, I feel like Peter Gammon's is the original

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Speaker 1: was Boston Globe football writer. Sean mcdunna's Dad, and he

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Speaker 1: inside information. And Peter Gammon, I mean in Boston Globe,

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Speaker 1: reading something you weren't getting other places, whether it was baseball,

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Speaker 1: football back So Bob, Ryan, Peter Gammons, and Will McDonough baseball, football, basketball. Yes,

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Speaker 1: but but you know, Peter was an insider and we

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Speaker 1: treated him as such that you know, Peter would get

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Speaker 1: Dickie Be. Dickie Be got information as well, became an

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Speaker 1: signing a two year extension. We got Final four Saturday.

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Speaker 1: opening day yesterday Saturday, Men's Final four Sunday, the women's

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Speaker 1: Kentucky Derby PGA Championship coming up. NBA Playoffs start May

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Speaker 1: twenty second. I love it. And it's not like you go, oh,

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Speaker 1: Make time? Find time, because you know, we know, we

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Speaker 1: know what was happening last year at this time. April

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Speaker 1: show mclovin up. Take the poll result. Okay, so would

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Speaker 1: you rather have the UNC job or a pro job?

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Speaker 1: debating on the basketball court? Is it going to definitely

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Speaker 1: be Gonzaga Baylor? Not that you're can predicted. Oh, it

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Speaker 1: feels like it's going to be that, but but you know,

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Speaker 1: I just I'm envisioning what Tuesday is going to be. Like,

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Speaker 1: you're you know, we want to make these arguments, and

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Speaker 1: We do this with basketball, Well this guy is better

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Speaker 1: how would they do against Indiana nineteen seventy six? I

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Speaker 1: have no idea. You know, today's player is today's player better? Well,

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Speaker 1: today's player is more athletic, but I we're so quick

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Speaker 1: of well, how would they have done against Bill Walton's

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Speaker 1: somebody to guard Bill Walton? No? But you know back

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Speaker 1: then UCLA wasn't shooting, they didn't have the three point shot, Like,

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Speaker 1: You're going to defeat it. Congratulations you hopefully they will

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Speaker 1: and rightfully so. But it is an interesting moment with

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Speaker 1: if you're Gonzaga, man, just keep reloading. Now. Don't let

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Speaker 1: them now you got them down, keep them down. But

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Speaker 1: go undefeated. Gonzaga is averaging eighty eight points a game

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Speaker 1: seventy three points shooting forty three percent. So it doesn't

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Speaker 1: to others, it's generational. I can give you my thoughts

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Speaker 1: having seen these games, seen these teams. But I'm enjoying

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Speaker 1: Gunzaga and the run. Here. Let's see Paul, and I

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Speaker 1: would join us. Hey, Paul, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, the last hour you were talking about basketball

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Speaker 1: books that you would like to be written, and a

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Speaker 1: book that I would just devour immediately. I having got

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Speaker 1: a title for it. It's Jailblazers, dress Codes and Malice,

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Speaker 1: the era that almost destroyed the NBA. All right, Jordan,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Perlman because HBO as now greenlit a series based

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Speaker 1: off his book book about the Showtime Lakers, and it's

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be probably less about basketball, actual basketball play

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Speaker 1: and more about just the relationships of you know what

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Speaker 1: went on during the Showtime Lakers. Yeah, mcclemman, totally random.

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Speaker 1: I watched an NBA Classic game with ar Vitas Sabonis

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Speaker 1: I feel like that team would roll today. They were

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Speaker 1: very big and athletic and well Sabonis was plauding. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Scottie asaid, can I have my share a few words

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Speaker 1: to my team about the two gentlemen doing our game,

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Speaker 1: and I give a five minute speech about how in

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Speaker 1: sports we use the term greatness so often. I said,

427
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Speaker 1: but this epitomizes greatness right here. Ten national championships, all

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Speaker 1: kinds of emmys in sports. Right as. I'm honored, I'm

429
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Speaker 1: in my thirties day. People think I'm enthusiastic. Now you

430
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 1: shouldn't see me back. So we got and it was

431
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Speaker 1: a big game for us because it was David Goliath.

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Speaker 1: They won't class my first year there. We beat them

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Speaker 1: and upset that Michigan with Campanella Russell, remember him, and

434
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Speaker 1: we beat them. And after that I couldn't get Johnny

435
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: were to get him out of schedule. So my players

436
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: all that year we won twenty one in a row.

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Speaker 1: We'd be Mark Kenn two months later won the national championship.

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Speaker 1: We beat Arizona. We Michigan State, and my players would

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Speaker 1: come in every day, coach, coach, why can't we play Michigan,

440
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Speaker 1: the number one in a country. We're as good as

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Speaker 1: they are. We play with those guys in the summer.

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Speaker 1: As a matter, I don't want to hear it. I

443
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: don't want to play us. I get here. My assistant

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00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: runs in after the season's over and he hears that

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Speaker 1: the parades are out and he comes running in my

446
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: office and he says, I'm gonna believe this. If we

447
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: get to the Sweet sixteen, we played Michigan. Oh my god.

448
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: I called the team meeting. I got all the players down.

449
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: I said, you want Michigan, daddy are well? We play

450
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Speaker 1: that game and we lose a heartbreak. I was told

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Speaker 1: later by Scottie that when I got fired by the Pistons,

452
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Speaker 1: and he called me up, I wrote your name down

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Speaker 1: because kirk County and John Wooden will leave in the arena.

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Speaker 1: So I love that guy's passion and spirit. And he said,

455
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Speaker 1: used to hire him. Scotty and TV se I've just

456
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Speaker 1: been named of a new network for remote hiring talent

457
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Speaker 1: mo Liss and he said, I like to hire do

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Speaker 1: our first game and he says ESPN. I said him

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Speaker 1: a true story there, I said, ESPN, that sounds like

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Speaker 1: a disease. What the hell's yeah? Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: And you know what, it's been a disease for me

462
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Speaker 1: and the four letters for me have given me a

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Speaker 1: life that succeeded any dream I ever had. What's the

464
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Speaker 1: job you almost took to leave ESPN? Where was there

465
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Speaker 1: a head coaching job that you nearly left for my

466
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Speaker 1: job I was trying to get. Nobody really knew it

467
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: except one guy found out. They roasted me in Detroit

468
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: the universe to make a lot of money, and I

469
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: told hif you roast meat, I'm gonna pick the roast.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy v was one of my guys I've picked. So

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Vee gets up now he wants to be last

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Speaker 1: as able lemons, Jimmy v Chuck Bailey. I had a

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Speaker 1: hell of a cast and we raised a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: But Jimmy gets up to speak at the end, he

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Speaker 1: mid tris, I want to go last. He goes in

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Speaker 1: his pocket and he says, I want to read this

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Speaker 1: letter to all you beautiful typen lovers here in New

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Speaker 1: Verse Detroit, about your coach here who you guys loved.

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Speaker 1: He said, this is the letter. Dear Dick, we are

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Speaker 1: sorry to inform you that we have decided to go

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Speaker 1: in a way of hiring Jim Valvano was our next coach.

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Speaker 1: He said, put this in your memory book. And he

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Speaker 1: said he found when he got the job there, he

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Speaker 1: found letter in the files and he wanted to make

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Speaker 1: I had it. But I don't think I would have

486
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Speaker 1: got the job at all. But that was a job

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Speaker 1: I was interested in. But you know what, Dan, I

488
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Speaker 1: didn't know. I did not know what Scott he meant,

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Speaker 1: you know the business better than I and med I

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Speaker 1: just I'm got a big guy talk about the game.

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Speaker 1: And the bottom line is, he used always say to

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Speaker 1: me the first couple of years I was there, don't

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Speaker 1: you don't don't leave this. He said, you got something

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Speaker 1: that's rare. You connect with people, whether they agree with

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Speaker 1: you or disagree. They're going to the water cooler and

496
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: they said, do you even think might tell said about that, dude,

497
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Speaker 1: And I didn't know what he meant. Nineteen eighty three,

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00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: they assigned the ESPN my first my first Final four.

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00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: I go there, Euston's playing Dan Jimmy v. Louisville, Georgia,

500
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: and people coming up with pictures and autographs and all this,

501
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: and I couldn't believe that. And Scott he says, did

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Speaker 1: I tell you kind of don't? That was the moment

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Speaker 1: that I said to myself, you know what. I love

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00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. And right now I'll tell you what

505
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: they can talk about Jachevski. They can talk about all

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00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: these great coaches and their records. I got the best

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00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: damn record forty two years. I haven't lost the game.

508
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: I have not lost the game. And I coach every

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Speaker 1: team in America CLA, Kentucky, book Carolina by coach Wall.

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Speaker 1: You got Gonzaga trying to go from you know, wire

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Speaker 1: to wire here, and I know we love to compare

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00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: teams in generations, and you know, to me, I just say,

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00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 1: enjoy this if Gonzaga goes undefeated, enjoy seeing something you

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00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: haven't seen in a long time. Why is it we

515
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: want to It feels like people want to diminish what

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00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: Gonzaga could be attempting to do by going undefeated. Why

517
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: is that, Well, that's just sports fanatics. I'm sitting like

518
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: when you argue, for example, a baseball player, it becomes great,

519
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: how would he compare with only Mays? How would he

520
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: compare with Nikim? That's just the way of life in sports.

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00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: But I agree with jeany should be related to the era.

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00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: Right now, they're the best of the best until somebody

523
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: can prove you can put them on an all on

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Speaker 1: their register. I said before the seasons started, I said

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Speaker 1: it during the season, and I said it basically before

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Speaker 1: the tournament started. Actually, I said thirty two and I

527
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: was happening. They're just that good or offensively, Dan, they

528
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: execute so well. There's a stat that really impresses me.

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00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: They lead the nation and assists eighteen per game. No

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00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: one that tells me, Dan. They're unselfish, they share the ball,

531
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: they love playing with each other, and they much better

532
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: defenseman than people believe. And then the cry you'll always get, well,

533
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Speaker 1: who do they beat in their conference? Well, take a

534
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: look what they beat pre conference. Kansas bloom they took

535
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: they blew off them, they took out certainly Kansas Virginia.

536
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: My memory tells me, Iowa blew them up. They can play.

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00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: They can play. They don't think I'm going as well.

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00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: Nobody talks about I think they're fresh Bequesse. The conference

539
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: wasn't as competitive as what you've seen in the Big

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00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: Ten and these various conferences. So they come into the

541
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: tournament I think physically a lot fresher than other teams,

542
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Speaker 1: and they're just a dye of my team. Now, would

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Speaker 1: they be the greatest team of all time. I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's any performed that they would beat lu alson

545
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Speaker 1: a new CLA because nobody Luson could take you, me

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00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: and take pot guy Paul, and you know what, we

547
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: got a chance, dad chance. We're talking to Dick Vitale,

548
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: the ESPN College Basketball analysts, signing a two year contract

549
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Speaker 1: extension at the Mothership. Oh three, oh oh wow? My?

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00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: Uh wait? Did ESPN make the mistake that you signed

551
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: a three year or two year? Or did I make

552
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: the mistake? Uh? You know you were right what you reported.

553
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: It was an era there in the initial release press

554
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Speaker 1: three years. But I hope I have another day tomorrow

555
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: and when you're eighty one years old, dad um. I

556
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: don't know if this is why Roy Williams retired, but

557
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: he had one of his star players who is deciding

558
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: to transfer his seven foot or out of Georgia UM.

559
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: And this transfer portal was interesting with college basket ball,

560
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: where youth? Where is this sport headed with the transfer portal.

561
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: We've seen this in football, certainly with quarterbacks, now with

562
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: the basketball players, and it's the worst thing that's ever

563
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: happened to college basketball. I just put up five tweets

564
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: in a row today on Twitter, they go to Dickie

565
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: V they can see them, five of them. How it's

566
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: really got me now, to be honest with you, I'm

567
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: upset big time about it because, first of all, we've

568
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: given the bad message to kids. Look, I understand some

569
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: cases transfer should happen, just like I put on Twitter.

570
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: In real life, sometimes the best thing for the couple

571
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: is the divorce. I mean, just the way of life.

572
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: So sometimes a transfer is good. Then I'll hear the

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00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: argument all the time, Well, coaches leave and they're eligible

574
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: right away to play, why shouldn't players. Well, it's not

575
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: apples to apples, Dan, We got right now today today,

576
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: eleven hundred players in the transfer portal. You don't have

577
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: eleven hundred coaches. Come on, So here, I got a

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00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: solution for that problem. If a coach leaves or if

579
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: he's fired, those players should be automatically eligible to transfer,

580
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: if that's dear desire. So now you wipe that argument out.

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00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: It's creating such chaos, no stability. It used to be

582
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: years ago. You know, players are not getting play in time,

583
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: and you can understand it. But now we've got starters

584
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: they won't want to be recruited again, both being chased

585
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: and dyed and one and no one's going to get

586
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: hurt the most. In schools like Dayton Detroit, they will

587
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: get a player to rise to become a real star talent.

588
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: You can guarantee word will get out to those kids. Hey,

589
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: think about going to this school in the ACC or

590
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: this school in the Big ten, and kids are gonna jump.

591
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: I think we're teaching kids. Hey, we're teaching kids to

592
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: quit when things get tough. Life is tough, livestock all smooth.

593
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: Right now, We've got a pandemic post the six hundred

594
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: thousand lives. We've got people friends of yours, friends and

595
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: why and lost their jobs. But you don't why. You've

596
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: got to rally in tough times. They're teaching kids unpacked.

597
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: The band's got And if I were coached today, you

598
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: don't get the kid in the wrong way. He said, Yeah,

599
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to transferportal. I just think it's the worst

600
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: thing to hit college. But and you know what, I

601
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: have some quales yesterday from coaches. They're up to here

602
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: with it. They're frustrated. You made a good point about

603
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: Roy Wis. I certainly don't believe that's the only thing.

604
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: But I gotta believe. I remember remember talking to Roy

605
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: about Oh God a month ago before doing one of

606
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: their games, and we were talking on Zoom and we

607
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: talked about the transfer portal, and he's totally against it.

608
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's just really not healthy for the

609
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: game of basketball. It's just not healthy at all, and

610
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: I don't think it's healthy for everybody involved. Mark fu

611
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: has said has told me that he's had players transferred

612
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: to him. Sitting out the year was the best thing

613
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: that happened that every then became probs, they developed. What

614
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: happened about developing players, Well, I don't know what's going

615
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: to happen when we get rid of the one and done.

616
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: Likes basketball going to be better when we get rid

617
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: of the one and done. You know, I'm just worried

618
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: about the state of the game, and I think what

619
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: we need in basketball, and I put this on Twitter too,

620
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: We need a czar. We need somebody representing college basketball,

621
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: dealing with the NCAA, dealing with issues come up, dealing

622
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: with the NBA about the one and I got the

623
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: perfect Kevin. I mean, you can't get a better Kevin.

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00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: Jay Bellis william No, Jay, Billis, well, Jenny would be

625
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: great too. No, he's a lawyer. But Jay isn't going

626
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: to give up the luxury of TV. That boy Williams

627
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: always available. Why would Jay give up work with a team.

628
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: It's like still in money working. I would love to

629
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: see Billis in that role because you know, you got

630
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: to listen to both sides, and uh, you know, I

631
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 1: always appreciate that Billis has a well thought out answer.

632
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: And I just don't think. I think that the NCAA

633
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: is rudderless there. There's there's nobody guiding the ship here,

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Speaker 1: and that's what concerns me, not just basketball, but sports,

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Speaker 1: you know, across the board. Yeah, I agree with you

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Speaker 1: he's just not going to leave for something like that.

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Speaker 1: But I will tell you this, I will tell you this.

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Speaker 1: I've been allegations about cheating, about the transcript frauds, all

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Speaker 1: those factors. This happened five years ago. It's been discussed

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Speaker 1: been made. There. It is five years. When did they

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Speaker 1: they got to go to this committee, that committee. Give

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Speaker 1: On this transfer portal thing. You should know what, Dad,

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Speaker 1: I think might come July, we'll have close to two

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Speaker 1: thousand kids transferred. It's everything. You pick it up. Another

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Speaker 1: recruited again. Wow. Can you imagine, Dad, you played at

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Speaker 1: dating and you're on a transfer portal. They'll all be

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Speaker 1: chasing you for that jump shot you had. They they

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Speaker 1: wanted me to get in the transfer portal, Dick, they

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Speaker 1: asked me to leave. That's the problem. Hey, congrats on

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Speaker 1: the contract extension and always always great to talk to you, Dick.

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Speaker 1: Thank you well, thank you so much. One last thing,

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Speaker 1: if I could just say this to you Dan quickly,

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Speaker 1: We'll take a break. We'll come back close up shop

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Speaker 1: after this in the Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening

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Speaker 1: the Mothership. And once again a special shout out to

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Speaker 1: Howie Schwab who has been alongside Dick for I think

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Speaker 1: and Howie Schwab was there with Dickie V and has

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Speaker 1: been instrumental in Dickiev's success, certainly behind the scenes. Jeff

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Speaker 1: mind today? What up? Though? One time at chad Row

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Speaker 1: Happy Meet Friday. Got excellent run of shows this week,

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Speaker 1: Dot Carl Man this situation, I had to walk outside.

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Speaker 1: How cannot laugh at your show in public anymore? I

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Speaker 1: can't listen to you when I'm in public because everybody

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Speaker 1: knows when when When Paul says, I know my man

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Speaker 1: Jeff of Detroit. Always good to hear from Jeff Detroit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was. It was kind of a wacky I don't

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Speaker 1: even know how to describe this week. We're kind of

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Speaker 1: When it goes off the rails like eight or nine

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Speaker 1: minutes and we get it back. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I was a fun week. Yeah, but I'm the conductor,

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Speaker 1: you know, so when we go off the rails, it's like,

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Speaker 1: too too, I'm in trouble. Yeah see yeah, see you're

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Speaker 1: a little too close to it. Yeah, you're a little

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Speaker 1: too close. Yes, no, And it's true because yesterday and

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Speaker 1: the end of the show. You know, we got done

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Speaker 1: and I was like, man, I don't know. And then

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Speaker 1: a good show, then I go okay, like I think

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Speaker 1: that's a good thing. Well, there is loose bad and

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Speaker 1: there's loose good. We had a couple of loose goods

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Speaker 1: this week. Yes, Todd. When you when we have those situations,

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Speaker 1: everyone loves it because as we do, it shows that

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Speaker 1: everyone's fallible and we you know, we're self deprecating and

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Speaker 1: right now, I don't. Actually I wasn't joined, but I'm

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Speaker 1: done now. The when a guest cancels are all of

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Speaker 1: Back to you, Thank you time. By the way, the

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Speaker 1: What we learn on today's award nominated program, Ton Dickey

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