WEBVTT - Peter Frampton 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:03.480 This is Alec Baldwin and you're listening to here's the thing. 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:08.639 Come on, admit it. If you're my age, you remember 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:24.160 exactly where you were when you first heard this. That's 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:27.680 the sound of twenty year old Peter Frampton performing what 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:30.680 would become one of the top selling live records of 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:35.000 all time. It was five and Frampton Comes Alive would 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:49.640 change his life. He was young, but hardly a newcomer. 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:53.199 By then, he'd already made four solo records for her 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:56.960 Albert and Jerry Moss of an M Records. Frampton, who 0:00:56.960 --> 0:01:00.680 recorded his first album when he was fourteen, started Humble 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:05.320 Pie when he was eighteen. Frampton's signature sound is a 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:09.760 mixture of virtuosic guitar a powerful voice in this electronic 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:13.080 device called a talk box. As it turns out, the 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:17.319 talk box wasn't his first successful foray into the world 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:20.600 of musical gadgets. I realized that I was a techie 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:24.360 when I was very young. I got my first reel 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.200 to reel tape machine, and then I figured out that 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:30.720 if I got another one, I could go sound on sound, 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:34.320 you know, before any multi tracking sort of thing, you know, 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:37.240 And I figured that out pretty early. I was like, 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:42.200 you know, ten or eleven. So I've been an engineer 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:45.840 as long as as long as I've been a music 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:49.080 that's helped you as a musician. You know, you're talking 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.880 to somebody who your music is like so important to 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:55.200 me about me growing up when I was a kid 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.840 and you were very young then, I mean humble kid, 0:01:57.920 --> 0:01:59.919 you know, yeah, yeah, you know when I was growing 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:04.040 there was like the Beatles, the Stones, Zeppelin, the Who 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:07.160 and Humble Pie. You don't want to know what I 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:10.959 put in my body listening to I mean, you don't 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:12.840 want to know. But anyway, So but my point is 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:14.560 that do you think that that work has made you 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:17.520 a better musician? Because you are such a virtuosic guitarist 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:22.920 and such a great guitarist. Sound is very inspirational to me. 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:27.760 I remember the reason that I wanted to learn guitar 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:31.639 was because I heard the sounds of all these people 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:35.040 on TV and on the radio electric guitar very young 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:40.160 and something. I have a very acute sense of sound, 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.400 and I've always had that if I don't have a 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:46.720 good sound, I can't play very well. So I've always 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:50.320 worked out what makes a good sound? How do you 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:53.440 get a good sound technically technically and then one of 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:56.920 the first sessions I ever did, Bill Wyman of The 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.959 Stones produced it when I was fourteen, and the first 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:05.120 engineer I worked with was Glynn Jones, who is if 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.919 people don't know, he's one of the most famous engineers 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:13.840 of all style Zeppelin Eagles that the band everybody Yeah, 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:17.880 humble by and then being a gadget freak. Early on, 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.520 I just was over like a little birdie on their 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.360 shoulder and I was, what's that? What are you doing there? 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:27.760 I just learned how to engineers, so I really enjoy 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:32.640 that part of it as well immensely. How do you 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:36.360 end up as a fourteen year old and Wyman wants 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:41.360 to produce your I started playing guitar just before I 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:45.280 was eight years old. And we're either your parents musical Yes, 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:50.360 um in England, Yes, about twelve miles south of London 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:56.480 and Bromley, Kent. And my mother was definitely would have 0:03:56.520 --> 0:04:00.960 been an entertainer. She was, but my parents wouldn't allow 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:03.120 her to become an actress. She wanted to be an actress. 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:06.400 Her father was a singer. Yes, we have a lot 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:12.240 of musical jeans and dad my dad played his teacher artist. 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:16.240 He played guitar in a college dance band before the war, 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:21.400 before he was more into his art, but he did. 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.440 He was the one that taught me how to sing 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.960 Michael Rowe the boat, you know, with two chords basically 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.839 and then hang down your head. Tom Dooley was another 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:34.280 big eeform. Then it was Eddie Cochrane, Buddy Holly and 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:38.080 our English the Shadows, cliff Ridgard and the Shadows. So 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:43.200 that's how I started playing guitar because of American music. Obviously, 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:45.880 that's what we all did, and we were all clamoring 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:49.720 for American music before the Beatles and then so I 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:53.920 was known in locally as this young, little upstart, good 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:57.440 guitar player, very young. Ended up in a semipro band 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:00.200 still at school that had the drummer that was the 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:03.080 original drummer of the Rolling Stones called Tony Chapman, who 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:06.120 introduced Bill to the Stones that he didn't end up 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:08.400 staying in the Stones, and Bill felt he owed him 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:12.320 a a favor. I would say said, look, put a 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:15.240 band together and I'll produce it. And he comes into 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:18.840 the music shop I'm working on the Saturdays when I'm 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:23.200 about fourteen and restringing guitars for the guy there. He said, 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.040 I want you to be in my band, you know. 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.200 I said, well, I have to speak to dad, you 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:31.120 know sort of thing. The first thing I know, we're 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.960 in a van. We pick up Bill Wyman and Penge 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.040 who sits in the front. The van goes very quiet. 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.320 We've got a rolling stone in front seat. We go 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:43.039 up to London and I meet Glenn John's and we 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:48.760 make a record like everyone is talking about soul. Did 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:52.640 you know what I mean? Record? It was called A 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.240 Hole in My Soul and it was a cover of 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.039 an American song and what was the name of the band, 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:02.160 The Preachers. So that was it, and so music was 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:05.599 your entire life. Yes, you're in the guitar shop and Kent, Yeah, 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.960 fixing strings on guitars from people shining guitars. And the 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.039 next thing you know, Bill Wyman's in the car and 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:12.720 you're off to go and do Holding my Soul with 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:16.200 the Preachers. Yes, I mean like he woked around us 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:22.360 so much. FID what year is this? This is sixty four, 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:24.560 So the Stones were and the Beatles were in full 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:28.760 swing by then, Yes, we did that year. The Stones 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.280 were given Ready steady go. They took over the show 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.000 Ready Steady Go for one week, and each one of 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:37.200 the Stones had their choice of act to be on, 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:41.040 you know, and of course Bill chose us. So I'm 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:44.680 on TV when I'm just before I'm i turned fifteen? 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:48.400 Is there any foot that if anybody's got it, Bill's 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.920 got it because he's he's the historian, you know. But 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:55.239 that was pretty amazing. Do you miss living in England? 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:57.320 You're such an American in so many ways. You lived 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:00.880 here for years, haven't two years? Seventy seventy five, I 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:05.279 came to New York. Actually I missed my family, my 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:08.480 brother and his family. I miss friends and stuff, but 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:12.960 my children are here. When I first came to America 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:16.920 with Humble Pie and I turned on the radio, I said, 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:20.080 I'm moving here, it just seemed like this was the place. 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:22.360 It was all happening with the old and the Yeah. 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.160 And I'd lived through the swinging sixties of London, you know, 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:28.680 and that was exciting too. And I love England, don't 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.160 get me wrong, I just don't think I would ever 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.280 live there again. I was just I'd be too far 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:37.440 from my kids. Yeah. So when you finish the hole 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:41.360 in my soul on the show with Bill Wyman. He's 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:46.720 your selection there on the show. What happens then? Then, um, 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:52.680 I'm sixteen. It's school holidays in the summer of big 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:57.320 local band The Herd come to me and say, we 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.720 saw you in the breaches and we're having a change around. 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.480 Would you come and help us out for the summer. 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:07.120 So I said, okay. So it gets close to September 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.239 when I'm going to go back to school and they said, 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.560 here's an offer. We want you to be the lead 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.640 guitarist and the lead guitarists going to play bass, and 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:18.920 we want to be a four piece out of five piece, 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.280 and would you join the Herd? I said, oh, I hear. 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.080 I've got to go back to school, do my sixth form, 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.560 get my A levels and go to Guildhall School in 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.080 the music. That was my plan to go to music college. 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:36.000 You know, a beard right at least? Yeah, I haven't 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:40.640 even had a shandy yet, you know. So I went 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:42.800 to dad and mom and I said, look, I really 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:44.920 want to do this. It is a professional band. You know, 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:50.000 they're great, they're big band. And my dad said well, 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:53.040 and they knew that this was on the cards, you know, 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:55.600 this was coming up that they knew by this time 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:58.520 I was going to be a musician, and so he said, well, look, 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:01.120 if you let tier and you've got a job at 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:05.200 the post office, you get fifteen pounds a week. I 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:08.640 want to get an assurance from this band that you're 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:11.319 going to get fifteen pounds a week. I said, well, 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.160 if he can do that deal, that that'll be great. 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.560 I don't think they earn enough to pay themselves sifting 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:18.440 both said, well that's what you I'm going minimum wage 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:20.800 for you. So that was the last deal my dad 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:24.880 did for me. Because we started to become a little 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:28.400 better and earn more money. Beginning, they couldn't pay themselves fifty. 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:31.480 Eventually it was a bargain, yeah, because they paid me fifteen. 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.800 They got up style. So that was the end of 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:45.920 him as a manager. Everything changed and The Herd became 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:50.920 had like three big top ten hits and and I 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:55.600 became very well known in Europe as a guitar player singer. 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.160 Now by the time you leave the Herd, you leave 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:03.319 them in what year? The Herd? After the the these 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:06.959 three big hits and an album, we realized that we 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:11.120 were losing money still and there was no reason because 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.720 we saw the figures, what was coming in and what 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:16.680 we were getting paid and all that. So we reached 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.080 out and Steve Merritt and Ronnie Lane of the Small 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:22.680 Faces said, look, we've been through this. We've been screwed, 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:26.200 you know, by management or business manager or whatever. They 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.360 clued us in, which was very nice to them, and 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.320 said they helped us produce a track or two on 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:33.360 on the next album we were going to do, which 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:36.360 they did. Meanwhile, I'm sitting in with the Small Faces 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:40.920 now at various functions and and wanted to join the 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:44.560 Small Faces. That wasn't to be. Steve wanted me to 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.679 join the Small Faces, but they weren't so thrilled with that. 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:51.480 So in the end Steve called me up and said, look, 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:53.760 I've left the Small Faces, Let's form a band. And 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:58.960 that's how Humble Pie basically formed in right at the 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.880 end of in sixty eight. So the two of those 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:05.560 things closely overlapped at the end of the herd and 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:09.000 forming the Humble Pie. Yes, And it was basically two 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:12.760 x teeny bopus does Steve Marratt was like the face 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:14.880 of sixty seven and I was the face of sixty 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:16.760 eight sort of thing. And by sixty eight. How old 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:20.439 are you now? You're eighteen years old and you've been 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.840 doing this professionally since you were fourteen years old, and 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:24.600 you're in the world of rock and roll, and especially 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:27.319 as we go from the sixties from sixty and it 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.360 gets a little more grainy, if you will, it gets 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.720 a little more vivid in terms of drugs and sex 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:34.960 of the culture. Was that difficult for you to be 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:38.240 the underaged you know, man child? I mean, you're you're 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:41.040 you're like Mozart, You're like this prodigy, but you're a 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.439 kid and you're in this rule with some pretty I 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:46.880 would imagine this pretty hard living people. Well, yeah, I 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.960 was pretty much of a late bloomer. I had to 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:53.120 really learn to drink, you know, people that expect you to. 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:57.400 I think, so this is yeah, it doesn't matter your age, 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:00.199 didn't really like you're in the army. Yeah, exact, you 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:03.600 got to swear and drink, you know, and now do drugs. 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:08.840 But I passed out so many times from anxiety attacks 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:13.559 from part I'm trying to get please. But anyway, I 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:18.320 managed it in the end, but not really. When I 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:21.240 was with Humble Pie, what changed. I think it was 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:25.360 my solo career and then getting to the point where 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:29.880 it was surreal, we're gonna get that. But that was 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:33.360 the time. So you with humble Pie and you're in England, Yes, 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:38.439 and you perform with them for how many years? Seventy one? 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.560 Four years? And well, how would you characterize that period 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.959 for stuff? Did you enjoy it? Unbelievable? They were very 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:47.080 popular Yes, in the States as well. Yes, that band 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:51.560 brought me to America where that's where we started. I 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.360 met I mean probably one of the first gigs I 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:58.240 met Bill Graham. You know, you realized now when I 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:02.040 look back, it was the beginning things of the creation 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:06.440 of rock and roll shows. Truly. Bill Graham was the 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.719 guy on how to do it live? Where would you 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:12.199 record humble Pie in London? We recorded an Olympic in 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:16.440 the famous Olympic where the Stones and Zeppelin recorded, and 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.880 I did all my solo stuff there as well. Either 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:23.640 there are Island Studios which Chris Black's place. You never 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.320 recorded in the US? No, No, The first thing we 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:30.120 ever did was record the live album of humble Pie 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.199 at the film All and Why did humble Pie And 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:38.800 a couple of reasons. I was feeling claustrophobic in the 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:42.480 band because we started off very democratic and doing it 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.840 all different types of music, and now our our stage 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:50.640 act was narrowing and we were just doing more more 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.320 of that heavy rock and roll, which I love. Don't 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:59.880 get me wrong. That's my riff, I don't need no Doctor. 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:04.960 That's me jamming the sound check in Madison Square Garden 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:08.000 and Steve just jumped up on the stage and started singing, 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:21.280 I Don't need no Doctor over that riff. He and 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.760 I were very much singing, yeah, yeah, he's the one 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.480 that says it's been a gas. Yeah, we go home 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:37.400 on Monday. On Monday. But what I'm tell that he 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.720 was probably a couple of years old, and when you 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:45.800 feel claustrophobic white because we want I wasn't being able 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.040 to do the music, all of this music that I 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:51.400 wanted to do. Humble Pie started off really split between 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:55.000 acoustic and electric. And also I was coming into my 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:59.320 own and Steve and I fought like brothers. Yes, that's 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.480 which we is why Humble Pie was so fiery, I 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:06.840 think because musically it was phenomenal. You know, sometimes we 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:11.160 degree and sometimes we just wouldn't agree. It was very 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:13.760 sad for me because I knew it would upset them, 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.080 but I just felt that I had to. It was 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:18.120 time to go on. And did you know where you 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:21.480 wanted to go? No idea, I knew that I was. 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:24.720 I didn't want to form another band. I wanted to 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:28.520 become a solo artist. Why because I wanted to make 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:32.920 all the decisions, because I'm a complete control freak. Did 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:37.720 you feel you wanted Yeah, you want to try things that. Yeah, 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:41.280 I wanted to try things that maybe other people wouldn't 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:42.920 want to try. You know, I wanted to do it. 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:45.960 And I have to say that it wouldn't have been 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.440 I wouldn't have had a solo career had it not 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:52.120 been for Humble Pie. I learned so much from working 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:55.040 with Steve Marriott. I have to hand him a lot 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:58.600 of the credit for the sort of things that he 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.680 introduced me to listen too as well, music blues and 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:05.320 built black combo and stuff like that. That was really 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:09.480 influential to me. So that's why it was a bitter 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:11.960 sweet thing leaving. I wanted to leave, but I didn't 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:13.920 want to leave. And then, of course, as soon as 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.840 I left, the live album that I had a big 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.480 hand in mixing because I'm the Gadget Freak in the 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:24.480 Engineer with Eddie Kramer rock in the film or comes Out. 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:28.160 I've left right at that point, and it zooms up 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:32.000 the charts. It's Humble Pie's first gold record, and I'm going, 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:38.400 holy crap, that's it. It's the first big blooper of 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.240 my career. You know, I've made a big mistake. Seems 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:45.720 like Dad's back on the job in the office game. 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:49.360 I frammed him at this time, Yes, absolutely so. Then 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:53.040 it was four studio albums before we did Comes Alive, 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.840 you know, and a lot of a lot of touring 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:59.040 and where are you living then? You still I was 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:03.720 still living in England until seventy five, when I finished 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:08.280 the fourth solo record in England and then moved over. 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:12.240 I actually moved to New York and stayed at the 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:18.760 Mount Kisco Holiday Inn on New Year's Eve. Yeah, it 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:23.520 was beautiful, and found Bob Mayo Bob Mayo on keyboards 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:27.280 from the live record in the band at the holiday 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:31.000 and it's it's a long story, but yeah. So basically 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.880 the first day of seventy five was I was now 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:39.200 living in America. When you do Comes Alive, how much 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.880 of the music on that is new music on an album. 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:43.520 How much of it was stuff you mind from the 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:49.160 previous four solo albums. It was basically all stuff that 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:55.240 came from the four studio albums, and rock On from 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.199 shine On was a humble Pie track that I had written. 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:02.000 It was actually from five albums, So it's like six 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:06.480 years worth of work mining that went into that one 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:09.280 live record. And for people who don't know that live 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:13.080 performance was recorded in multiple locations, are in one. Most 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:16.840 of it was one location, which was winter Land in 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:21.679 Sanrancisco of Bill Graham gig where The Last Wolves was 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:26.439 filmed two nights before we'd played the Marine Civic Center 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.280 and we've done two shows there, so we recorded that. 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:32.399 I think a couple of numbers came from there, do 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:34.440 WI I think comes from there, maybe one of the 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:39.520 acoustic songs. But winter Land was the first big headline 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:43.760 show we'd ever done, I'd ever done with my name 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.239 on the ticket people were coming to see me for 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:52.560 because the album right prior to Comes Live Just Frampton 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:56.280 was the biggest one so far, biggest sellery had done, 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:59.520 sold like three hundred thousand copies, which was mega for me. 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:02.960 That was better than all things in that four album run. 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:05.880 Prior to the live album in winter Land, things were 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:09.239 getting better than the same that they were, but that 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:12.919 one was definitely I'm setting me up. It was setting 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:14.880 me up for something. How many nights at winter Land 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:19.440 on one show? Okay? Okay, so stop, so let's cut 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:24.760 the bullshit. Let's cut the bullshit. You're in winter Land, 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:27.159 and would you say, and the show goes on what time? 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:31.879 Eight o'clock, nine o'clock, nine o'clock, yeah, probably probably somewhere, 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:34.160 and so somewhere between you pull up to winter Land 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:36.000 and you go out of quarter to nine, the devil 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:37.840 came in your room and made a deal with you. Correct, 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:41.200 you signed a deal with the devil, showed up, poured 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:44.000 himself a drink, sat down, said Peter. Peter, Peter, Peter, 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:46.320 let's cut, let's cut. It was Peter Cook. Actually it 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:48.960 was Peter Cook, and he's and he said, let's make 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:53.679 a deal. And the devil makes this deal with you. 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:58.760 Because what happened, First of all, there's probably, if I'm 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:03.480 not mistaken, there wasn't people out there then. I thought 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:06.080 they were set, but it's it definitely sounds like it. 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:09.120 It's a big room. They go nuts when we walk 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:12.080 out and it just takes you to a different level. 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:14.920 You know. It felt good. It was one of those 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:17.199 shows when you come off and you look at the 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:19.800 band and you just go, I wish we'd recorded that. 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:22.760 That was like so good man. And then we went 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:26.199 who we did? You know? We did record that? We 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:29.239 forgot we were do you see? The event was so 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:33.400 much more important than the recording. I don't even remember 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:55.560 the truck being there. The recording is June of five Minutes, 0:20:55.560 --> 0:21:01.320 released when we're still mixing right up for Christmas, and 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:05.119 then it comes out, I believe on like January seventeenth 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:11.480 or something like that, January nine or what happens? Well, 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:13.760 I knew we were going to tour the whole year, 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:17.920 so right after Christmas, I went down to the Bahamas 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:22.560 for ten days and relaxed. Before I left, we had 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:27.960 put one show on at Cobo Hall in Detroit, which 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:32.159 is a big rum and that's all I knew. And 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:34.840 so I go away and I don't call anybody. I'm 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:37.600 just on the beach and snorkeling or whatever. I come back. 0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:42.280 We've sold four shows out, and I said, what happened? 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:45.080 You know? And the album has just started to be 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:50.119 on the radio, you know, and that's when everything just 0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:54.040 went went through the roof, you know, after all this time. 0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:58.159 People think it is overnight, but it's not overnight in 0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:01.080 the scheme of things. But but it's a huge leap 0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:03.919 for you. Yes, but it's not overnight success, but it is. 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:08.000 It's a heady experience. Is it still the highest selling 0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:12.359 live album of all time? It's in dispute, yeah, but 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:15.920 up there, yeah, because my record is only counted as 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:20.800 one one album. Certain other artists had it made so 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:24.879 that you could count um, if you released six CD 0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:28.399 live set, you can count it six times, while they 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:31.600 didn't do that retroactively. So in my mind it's still 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:34.760 the biggest selling and eventually how many albums did yourself? 0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:38.679 We're up in the seventeen million now seventeen million records 0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:54.000 of right, this is Alec Baldwin and you're listening to 0:22:54.119 --> 0:23:08.440 Here's the Thing back with more of Peter Frampton. When 0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:11.320 you come out of that experience and having this huge thing, 0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:13.280 I want to talk to you not about how it 0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:16.040 affected your career wise, because obviously that wasn't important. How 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:18.560 did it affect you personally? Were you married at the time. 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:23.080 I had a girlfriend at the time. I don't think 0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:26.320 anybody can be ready for that kind of success, and 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:30.080 I'm pretty down to earth person. I take things as 0:23:30.080 --> 0:23:33.560 they come. As I said earlier to you, I was 0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:37.479 a late bloomer when it came to dulling anything. You know, 0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:42.639 it was almost unbelievable the amount of success. Get these 0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:46.480 phone calls in quick succession, your number one in in 0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:49.439 the charts, you know, and I'm going, wait a second, 0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:52.840 say that one more time, and who are you? And 0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:58.680 then within three or four weeks of that, I get 0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:01.960 the call saying it the biggest selling record of all time. 0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:07.840 You've just outsold Carol King's tapestry and it's um was 0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:09.120 that the time you thought of you had to start 0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:12.880 them in yourself? Yeah, it was crazy because people just 0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:14.960 wanted how to deal with that. No, it was very 0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:16.560 don't know how to deal with how people treat you 0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:21.960 differently exactly, and being always being respectful and and never 0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:25.720 really thinking of myself as anything special because I've never 0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:31.160 been That's just not my do you. I felt embarrassed 0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:35.159 that I was that this entity became it was me 0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:38.159 over here, you know. Yes, it was very hard to 0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:40.680 deal with. What were you proud of the record. Oh 0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:42.840 my god. Yeah, I'm still because it's one thing when 0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:46.840 people become famous and have, regardless of their of the 0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:49.520 ramp up, regardless of the whole timeline of their career, 0:24:50.200 --> 0:24:51.960 and then they have some sizemic event like that and 0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:54.600 they don't really deserve it. And me, in your case, 0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:58.920 you're great, I mean you really are phenomenal. But aside 0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:02.199 from your own gifts, who helped really really make the 0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:06.119 record roll out that way? Jerry Jerry deaf Well. I 0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:09.560